Asatru Folk Assembly - 7⧸3⧸24 Victory Never Sleeps, Episode 104 - Ásatrú Trúlögmál, Part 2

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00:03:00.000 hello and welcome to another exciting edition of victory never sleeps

00:03:14.000 last week i figure we'll put this up front so people can pull it up and read along and

00:03:23.220 explore yeah i'll do this here in a second because it goes into something else had a

00:03:27.740 second thought. Reverse course. Anyways, what I was going to say is, last week, we went over

00:03:33.900 a document that the AFA released recently called the Austro Trulamal. And it is,

00:03:46.180 you know, as it is subtitled, The Fundamental Beliefs of the Austro Focusing. And

00:03:51.580 for those that weren't paying or that weren't here, weren't listening, didn't get a chance to

00:03:57.660 catch part one i urge you to do so but also so you understand this document is meant to be expressed

00:04:03.900 in the simplest the simplest terms in the most straightforward way to members to people who are

00:04:12.700 curious and interested to people trying to tell their friends and family you know what what is

00:04:18.620 this also true thing what is it that you guys do this is our attempt at that in its most basic terms

00:04:27.660 um so uh one of the things swan's clocks two minutes slow folks uh no so one of the things

00:04:39.480 that is um I guess can be said about it in background for a very long time

00:04:47.580 um and I think in a lot of ways because folk religions arise organically through wisdom and

00:04:58.380 over the course of time and not through one moment's revelation so they're acquired over

00:05:07.560 a great period of time they have a tendency to evolve and grow and also

00:05:12.480 they're holistic they're not just a set of ritual practices to be done

00:05:19.260 on a holy day they're a holistic way of living your life

00:05:24.320 whole and healthy and so when people ask about Ausatru there's a tendency to not know where

00:05:35.640 to start they're like well you know there's this but then there's this other thing but then there's

00:05:40.000 some archaeology and like, hey, do you know about funnel beaker culture and like all these

00:05:47.260 like, really, you can go into very specific corners of it. And you can start from a lot

00:05:54.260 of places. But our attempt was to lay it out in a way that built upon itself. And that

00:06:00.560 took somebody who was perhaps completely unfamiliar, and gave them some understanding of

00:06:05.980 of the very core of what we believe as i said last time this isn't a

00:06:12.940 this is a thou shalt document not a thou shalt not document these are the right way to

00:06:22.540 you ought to believe these things you can believe additional things and you can expound on these

00:06:27.980 things in a lot of ways that are particularly meaningful to you but these are the very core

00:06:34.540 principles of what we believe in the Austro-Folk assembly. That said, you can find this document

00:06:41.340 at www.runestone.org. But you find a lot of other cool stuff there too. So first,

00:06:48.780 so you know where to get it, if you look under...

00:06:53.420 So Nick's got the thing, but I'm also telling you in case you are listening to this and not viewing

00:06:59.500 it there's a tab called about the afa a link to it is there that will get you set up but also

00:07:06.620 while you're at runestone.org i'd like you to take note of a couple of different things

00:07:12.140 one thing is on the home page of runestone.org if you go down to current projects you see the

00:07:19.420 four honestly three ish but the fourth one is kind of an esoteric uh evolution of one of the

00:07:29.920 other ones um and i'll explain that in a moment but those are kind of the four projects we've got

00:07:34.460 a goal we're trying to target on that and i think these are really cool and i asked nick to make

00:07:40.400 these up and he did a beautiful job with them so everybody ooh and ah over these and they're

00:07:44.700 accompanying progress bars to show how far we've made it. As a matter of fact, while you're oohing

00:07:50.020 it on, Nick, along with Goethe East's wife Madison, put a lot of effort into this new website. And I

00:07:58.220 think it's absolutely beautiful. And I hope you guys enjoy it. Also something to pay attention

00:08:05.820 to while you are over here is the calendar tab. If you click on that calendar tab, you will see

00:08:15.420 This has been one of my dream things I have always wanted. You will see all of the stuff

00:08:20.860 the AFA has got going on in any given month. Now we have evolving levels of perfection as far as

00:08:31.900 whether everybody puts everything on this calendar. So this is at least what the AFA

00:08:37.100 has going on every month. There's always a couple impromptu things that slip through

00:08:41.500 that don't quite make it on the calendar that should but this is and i'm very proud of that

00:08:47.740 that's a lot of activity and a lot of work our folk builders are putting in to make sure those

00:08:52.620 events happen and it's really nice to see the quantity but also the geographic spread of where

00:09:00.220 all these things are if you're listening to this or watching this chances are there's something

00:09:04.940 pretty close to you certainly something you could drive to if you were so inclined

00:09:09.260 and so i urge you guys check that out and see what's going on in your area

00:09:14.540 um i swear i will get virginia up

00:09:20.300 when you said it i was like oh i still gotta get mine up so everybody take a look at your

00:09:25.340 computer screen and point a disapproving finger it's written fun you may not feel it through the

00:09:32.300 ether his july his july virginia event is not up there yet but you heard it here folks he is gonna

00:09:39.420 fix that so refresh your your page soon and that should be up there somewhere yeah i would even

00:09:47.180 say it too um i i'm shooting for the third weekend um trying to go up to the devil's marble yard

00:09:53.900 in itself south of lynchburg um like for a hike moot so it's gonna be hot and we're gonna be

00:10:00.540 walking but it's going to be there i promise when i made the initial comment it was not targeting

00:10:06.620 spawn oh no but my guilt just let it do so so anyways there's that i mentioned earlier about the

00:10:16.540 you know esoteric evolution of those two projects so people don't know um our next big thing that

00:10:25.180 we are trying to accomplish is getting a hoth for lord frayer in order to do that there was a couple

00:10:31.820 of different steps so stuff's tricky because it's really exciting and energizing to raise money for

00:10:46.940 something you don't have it is less so when you are trying to raise money for something that you

00:10:53.260 already have, but you need to all the way have. Until we pay off the debt that we've incurred on

00:11:01.100 it, we don't really own it. Most of the way own it. And that's for New York's Hoff. So

00:11:06.460 we purchased New York's Hoff in August of 2022 and not quite two years into it.

00:11:18.960 And that was our most expensive Hoff we've ever gotten. So that's $245,000 worth of Hoff.

00:11:28.740 Only two years in, slightly less, only 23 months in, we are already 65.7% paid off of that. And

00:11:38.920 that's because of, I mean, in certain ways, that's because of the blessings of our gods,

00:11:45.920 but in in many very practical ways it's because of the generosity of you folk and i appreciate that

00:11:51.440 so much um matter of fact as we often start out as we nearly always start out this program

00:12:01.440 uh ronald blake has donated 45 towards paying off new york's off and it's much appreciated

00:12:09.920 He has also donated $50 towards the steeple at Baldur's Hoff, also much appreciated.

00:12:17.360 But yeah, on the New York's Hoff deal, point being, we had two different loans we had to

00:12:22.080 take out to make the Hoff happen. We've paid off one of those. We have, you know, what is it? 36.3%.

00:12:32.800 we still need to pay off. And once we're done with that, then we're, you know, moving ahead

00:12:41.440 with Frazhoff. Frazhoff is going to be in either Eastern Ohio or Western Pennsylvania, and likely

00:12:51.020 the Northern portion of either of those states that we talked about. So we're looking, you know,

00:12:58.700 we're looking at it all the time. We're excited. We just got to pay off New York's off before we

00:13:02.140 get there and we're well on our way. So money that goes towards, you know, either the Frey's

00:13:07.420 Hoff Fund or the New York's Hoff Fund right now, that's where it goes. It's paying off New York's

00:13:11.540 Hoff. So that's step one. Yeah. So go to that donate link if you're interested. It's got other

00:13:19.620 stuff you can donate to there as well. You can buy us a coffee or whatever the kids do at that

00:13:27.140 thingy and the directions on that are in the description of this video yeah appreciate you

00:13:33.180 guys generosity also please make sure wherever you are consuming this because you can watch it

00:13:38.140 a bunch of places now and ask questions you can also listen to it a bunch of places come friday

00:13:42.520 like share subscribe uh some of the avenues of getting the message out are not available to us

00:13:52.200 due to the political climate we find ourselves in.

00:13:57.320 Until and once that's better, but specifically until then, word of mouth is huge.

00:14:05.040 One of the biggest things, you just run the numbers, all the people that should be here versus the people we already have.

00:14:11.220 Biggest hurdle we have is so many people don't know about us and don't know we exist.

00:14:16.320 so the more you guys can spread the word um the more of our folk we can bring home

00:14:23.520 also kind of side note if you're listening to this or you're watching it

00:14:27.840 and it resonates with you it is something that that is meaningful to you consider joining

00:14:34.000 assuming you are a heterosexual white person we would we would love to have you join us and be

00:14:40.320 part of what we're doing so yeah give that some thought if you're interested in joining

00:14:44.960 links also on the runestone.org site. Last but certainly not least on taking care of business

00:14:55.640 at the beginning of the program here, in just two and a half short weeks, July 19th through the 21st,

00:15:06.800 we have Sigur Bloat at Sigurheim. This is the second Sigur Bloat at Sigurheim, the second annual.

00:15:14.960 It is an amazing property. It is going to be the future headquarters of the Astro Folk Assembly. It's where many of us are going to move our families to and build a community around. It's where we're going to build a great hall. It's where we are going to erect a hof to Lord Teer.

00:15:34.220 It is where we already have two amazing statues as tribute to our founder and his wife for all that they have done to make this happen and bring us to where we are.

00:15:46.760 Please come join me and check that out here at July 19th through the 21st.

00:15:52.620 Let's see you there.

00:15:53.960 It's in Jackson County, Tennessee, about an hour and a half away from Nashville.

00:15:58.940 Folks are thinking about flying in.

00:16:00.500 if you're a member absolutely get on here uh we would love to see you there if you're not a member

00:16:08.840 and you want to come check it out reach out to any of our folk builders they will get you squared

00:16:13.120 away we'd love to see you there and looking on the side before we get so oh and here's another

00:16:22.280 thing you guys please feel free to ask whatever questions you like we'll get to all of your

00:16:26.240 questions once we start rolling with the document we're going over we'll kind of ask questions that

00:16:32.720 are related to what we're talking about first and then we'll get to the other questions

00:16:39.200 after we finish but we will definitely get your question

00:16:47.120 oh it appears that Ronald also bought us a coffee for five dollars Ronald thank you so much

00:16:56.240 thank you oh fair in mind too with um ronald i'm i'm waiting for something to be mailed in

00:17:13.760 and then i'm gonna work on it and then i'll be sending it to you so

00:17:16.640 So I would urge Bede Bowman. He's got a question about reincarnation. I would really like you to

00:17:36.200 stick with us. We will get to that and that portion of this document in today's program.

00:17:43.180 we're going to finish it today no matter what so we will get to that portion during the program

00:17:48.220 and when we get there i really want to answer your question and i look forward to doing that

00:17:53.740 so please do stick with us or if you can't check back in because we will answer that one

00:18:00.460 and with that i'd like to get back into the document i believe that we are correct me if

00:18:07.580 i'm wrong but we're on section three heim dollar ennobles our folk um yes sir so spawn as i said

00:18:19.020 last time if you think of something or you've got something just speak up and cut me off because

00:18:25.500 uh as low tech as i am i can't look at our our shared camera situation and read from my computer

00:18:33.900 screen at the same time gotcha all right that said the rigs thula tells the story of heimdallar

00:18:43.900 guiding teaching and refining our folk over the course of time and generations lord heimdallar

00:18:50.940 raised our folk from simple thraldom to nobility and kingship this process of ennoblement was

00:18:59.100 possible because our ancestors welcomed the Aesir into their homes. Our ancestors were blessed

00:19:07.420 because they built their families around the Aesir. As our ancestors opened themselves to the Aesir,

00:19:14.780 they learned and became even more or ever more beautiful.

00:19:20.060 Our noble ancestors transcended their limitations and they became Aryan.

00:19:29.100 I think this one gets a lot of questions as to, I mean, I don't actually, let me see,

00:19:40.080 I don't see any of them coming up. And perhaps it's a good thing, but it's worth noting that

00:19:46.260 that process, the entire story of Rigsula, is a process, is a mythological or mythos

00:19:55.580 explanation i would say or a meta narrative to a greater thing than what a lot of people you know

00:20:04.360 um uh kind of interpret from the story if they're talking about you know the the three levels of

00:20:13.880 um nordic kind of uh society um you know they're they're that's that's not

00:20:24.020 the deeper, um, meaning behind that story. And there's other things that allow, um, you know,

00:20:33.800 or at least give glimpse to what is going on is that there, you know, this is something more than

00:20:39.060 just kind of explaining where thralls and, and corals and murals come from. Um, and if people

00:20:46.620 can't um you know get that i think that um it does a great service to our to our ancestors

00:20:56.940 and to the gods so there there's some questions that people might have about that but

00:21:03.420 um you know when we cover rigs the low i mean we'll go into great greater detail about it but

00:21:09.500 you know i just wanted to make a mark on that yeah and so so point to make on that a lot of people

00:21:16.620 it's always valuable for us to go back to the basics and to re-examine why we think what we

00:21:27.140 think. And I think it's a very valuable process. I think you catch things that you miss. I think

00:21:34.380 you perfect, you know, big things that you believe by fine tuning them. I think it strengthens

00:21:42.980 right belief and i think it also adjusts um any confusion or mistaken ideas and it's really

00:21:50.540 important so people have passed on for years and years oh well this is about you know dumazil's

00:22:00.640 three functions of indo-european society and that's and if you hear that repeated enough times

00:22:10.600 so you just nod and assume that's the case but it's not and there may very well be a reflection

00:22:18.760 of that or a reference to that in some way in the progression of classes

00:22:28.120 but this is told very very deliberately by the names of the couples involved and it's done in

00:22:34.360 a process starting from great grandparents to parents in the exact progression of

00:22:46.600 thrall to carl to jarl and then ending in

00:22:53.000 con the younger and con hunger is a it's a play on the word for kingship so the the ultimate

00:23:07.100 product of this process is a young man basically named the king and it's and the naming in it is

00:23:17.820 done in a sequence and it's done over time and it's done very specifically over generations

00:23:23.100 and so i think that process is very self-evident if you look at it with fresh eyes

00:23:29.620 the next section runes section four runes rune means whispered mystery or secret counsel

00:23:42.560 the runes are the secret mysteries of reality a rune is the mystery the intonation and the symbol

00:23:53.380 a rune is all these combined or each of these individually

00:23:58.240 the runes pre-exist the isir and are drawn from genungagath the yawning void from which reality

00:24:07.940 was formed. All father Oden won the runes through ordeal upon the world tree, which is known as

00:24:16.260 Yggdrasil, Oden's steed. I weaned that I hung on the windy tree, hung there for night's full nine.

00:24:25.500 With the spear I was wounded and offered I was to Oden, myself to myself, on the tree that none

00:24:33.220 may ever know what root beneath it runs none made me happy with loaf or horn and there below i looked

00:24:42.580 i took up the rooms shrinking i took them and forthwith back i fell havamal 138-139

00:24:51.620 Odin shared the hard-won runic wisdom with the Eysir, among them Heimdallar. Lord Heimdallar

00:25:03.800 taught the runes to our ancestors. The lesson of runes was among the final steps in the

00:25:11.840 full ennoblement of our folk. Soon grew up the sons of Jarl. Beasts they tamed, and bucklers

00:25:22.180 rounded. Shafts they fashioned, and spears they shook. But Kahn the young learned runes to use.

00:25:32.180 runes everlasting the runes of life soon he well he well the warrior's shield he could

00:25:44.520 soon sorry i apologize guys soon could he well the warrior's shield dull the sword blade and

00:25:53.380 still the seas. Bird chatter learned he, flames could he lessen, minds could he quiet, and sorrows

00:26:02.800 calm. Riks Thule 43 through 45. And while I got a second, before I go into the next section,

00:26:17.640 um lauren anderson bought us five coffees it's 25 thank you lauren we appreciate it very much

00:26:28.500 and gw farnsworth bought us five coffees also 25 if someone was a member and left for personal

00:26:37.840 issues going on at the time would they be allowed back so

00:26:43.180 to borrow from the abrahamists the devil is in the details um

00:26:50.740 no really and truly outside from a very very select set of circumstances 1.00

00:26:58.700 we always want our people who've gone wayward to come back home

00:27:03.700 um what i would prefer is that when people did go through personal issues

00:27:10.140 that it brought them closer to our AFA family and our go-thar and not made them pull away.

00:27:18.720 But that's something to work on over time. We want all of our people to come back home. There 1.00

00:27:23.680 are very few things that one could do that are unforgivable and unallowable back into our

00:27:30.380 community. So, you know, the general answer is yes, with the asterisks. Unless there's something,

00:27:38.300 unless there's a very, very few circumstances

00:27:42.020 that that's not the case.

00:27:45.160 When I think of all of the people

00:27:46.740 that have ever left the AFA that I know about

00:27:49.440 that can't come back,

00:27:53.340 that list,

00:27:54.880 I'm tempted to say it's 10 or less.

00:28:00.560 I think if I actually sat down and thought,

00:28:03.260 it's probably under 20.

00:28:05.620 that's something in the history of the afa so there's very few situations that we can't come

00:28:14.180 back to to frith and come back to to welcoming our family back home that's what we'd love to see

00:28:19.220 um may i please please uh one thing and kind of in correspondence with the true lomo

00:28:29.540 and what we just spoke about one of the there's many drives that the afa has our church has

00:28:38.260 one of them of course is to bring folk home to come back to the spiritual connectivity to the

00:28:44.580 divine through the faith of their people and what is their birthright but also just what we spoke

00:28:51.460 about with lord heimdall imbuing in in the folk this uh layered connectivity to the divine

00:29:00.340 and what it does what it does is it ultimately uh it leads our folk to becoming more noble

00:29:08.740 and so one of the other drives that often isn't talked about i guess or just outright

00:29:14.580 you know said is that we try to get our folk to act better to speak better to look better

00:29:24.500 it's all about returning to nobleness or returning to kind of the upper echelons of our beings

00:29:34.740 that we know that we can attain that we know that we were rightly given but is incumbent upon us to

00:29:40.740 return to that so excuse me um the idea is that you know imbuing ourselves with that nobleness

00:29:48.900 and not in the sense that um you know like you're in the afa now and you're noble high five no it's

00:29:55.780 it's a work in progress it's something that you attempt to to attain and sometimes when you have

00:30:02.660 personal issues sometimes again uh as i i'll say ago they said it's in the details but

00:30:08.020 But I can think of a couple of people that have left because of more personal or minute issues or maybe family issues.

00:30:18.460 And if they think they can't return, that's not the case.

00:30:21.780 That they can come back home and they can reinvigorate themselves into our community, become part of the community,

00:30:29.380 and then start working on ennobling themselves and working towards you know having a closer

00:30:34.260 connection to the gods to their ancestors and to their folk at large and that that's all part of

00:30:42.020 that process that's why i think a lot of um people might not understand why this part was placed in

00:30:48.820 here about heim dollar coming to the folk and making us noble it is part of our mission is to

00:31:00.180 have folk, you know, ennoble themselves. And if you don't do the first part,

00:31:05.780 you can't do the second part. So, you know, it's, it's important.

00:31:11.220 In the time of you speaking, Jim Steele bought us five coffees for 25 bucks. Thank you.

00:31:20.820 you and uh paul dicker donated 100 oh thank you so much we appreciate that um so back to

00:31:36.900 Section 5, Ausatru Reforged, beginning in 376 CE with the conversion of the Visigoths.

00:31:53.880 One by one, the nations of our ancestors broke their trough with the Yisir. 0.92

00:31:59.060 sometimes by the boat of the rabble sometimes by the sword sometimes by the lure of money 0.97

00:32:07.020 power our ancestors abandoned our holy isaiah they gave their worship to a foreign god

00:32:14.840 and allegiance to a foreign creed our connection with the gods of our blood and bone is not

00:32:21.920 optional. It is eternal and it is integral. Integral. The internal conflict within our

00:32:31.340 folk soul begin. Guys, I cannot read tonight. I apologize. I assure you I do not have vision

00:32:40.260 or comprehension problems. I don't know what the deal is, but I'll keep trying. The internal

00:32:45.660 No conflict within our folk soul between the falsehood of a foreign doctrine and the truth

00:32:51.780 of our metagenetics, the link between a race and their gods, caused soul sickness within

00:32:58.920 our folk.

00:33:00.960 Healing was desperately needed, and in 1862 the folk began to wake.

00:33:07.980 Inspired by All-Father Oven, Maestro Guido von List took up again the runes of power and made the first steps to awaken our folk to their ancestral gods, the Aesir.

00:33:26.440 Now do I see the earth anew, rise all green from the waves again.

00:33:34.140 The cataracts fall and the eagle flies.

00:33:37.980 And fish he catches beneath the cliffs.

00:33:42.160 The gods in either bowl meet together.

00:33:45.940 Of the terrible girdler of earth they talk.

00:33:50.720 In the mighty past they call to mind.

00:33:53.720 In the ancient rooms of the ruler of the gods.

00:33:58.200 In wondrous beauty once again shall the golden table stand at the grass.

00:34:03.360 Which the gods had owned in the days of old.

00:34:05.980 then fields unsewed their ripened fruit all ills grow better and balder comes back

00:34:13.840 balder and hoth dwell in the crops battle hall and the mighty gods would you know yet more

00:34:23.060 how them all 59 to 62 our folk continued to awaken and by 1934 alexander rudd mills had

00:34:33.660 established his Anglican Church of Odin.

00:34:39.000 Though that church was short-lived,

00:34:41.060 Mills showed our folk a vision of what was possible.

00:34:44.940 In the late 1960s, Odin shook the world tree

00:34:49.040 and called his folk our folk to come home.

00:34:55.160 With no awareness of each other

00:34:56.840 and no collusion between them,

00:34:59.040 folk mother Elsie Christensen,

00:35:01.180 John Gibbs Bailey with his colleague John Ewell,

00:35:05.740 Sveinbjorn Bientensen, and Stephen McNallan all made attempts to restore

00:35:10.460 Ausatru.

00:35:15.660 In 1968 Stephen McNallan heard the call of Lord Odin

00:35:20.940 and he dedicated his life to the mission assigned him by the Allfather.

00:35:26.380 Odin himself worked through and with Stephen McNallan as he gathered others and laid the

00:35:33.020 foundations of modern Ausitry. Inspired by his relationship with Odin, Mr. McNallan

00:35:40.380 founded the Viking Brotherhood in 1970. In 1976, Odin revealed more to him, and as his understanding

00:35:49.260 of divine truth increased, Mr. McNallan transformed the Viking Brotherhood into the

00:35:55.020 the Ausatru Free Assembly.

00:35:58.100 The Ausatru Free Assembly set many profound currents

00:36:02.760 into motion and planted the seeds of renewal

00:36:05.640 for our eternal church.

00:36:07.900 However, the time was not yet right

00:36:10.840 and the men and women involved,

00:36:12.360 not yet healthy enough to live up to their calling.

00:36:16.880 Dissatisfied with the prevailing selfishness

00:36:19.360 and infighting in that assembly,

00:36:21.900 Mr. McNallan chose to dissolve the Ausatru Free Assembly

00:36:25.020 1987. Odin had more to teach his chosen herald. For the next seven years, Stephen McNallan grew

00:36:33.580 rich with experience and wise in the ways of the world, traveling the war-torn corners of Midgard,

00:36:40.860 reflecting on the needs of his folk, upon their soul sickness, and how to make his people whole.

00:36:47.660 In 1994, Stephen McNallan returned wiser, revitalized, matured, burning with inspiration, and resolute in purpose.

00:37:03.520 He had come to the certain knowledge that Alcetrua must come together, united in might and main, in troth to the ISEA.

00:37:17.660 Oh, my goodness. All right. So, while doing that, Lauren Anderson donated $500 to the Odenshof fund. Thank you so much. I will absolutely let those folks know this entitles you to get your name on the plaque at Odenshof.

00:37:44.160 and we will get that set up there as well.

00:37:47.400 We really, really appreciate your generosity.

00:37:50.800 That's amazing.

00:37:52.960 Thank you.

00:37:58.460 Svon, do you have, oh, okay.

00:37:59.820 Also something to plug during this.

00:38:01.460 I was kind of given a,

00:38:03.160 hey, plug this during your next opening.

00:38:05.400 We got gym merchandise.

00:38:07.240 We got throwback gym merchandise.

00:38:09.140 House of True Athletics.

00:38:10.400 as kind of a side note here. Sorry, I can't do two things at once.

00:38:23.920 Sent myself a note. So you guys, side note, not even related to the earlier side note that we

00:38:30.300 were in the midst of. Every single time I reread this document, because I've looked at it so many

00:38:37.160 times i just notice little edit things so sometimes i take a little second and write a

00:38:42.200 note to nick for me to get on there and edit some spellings and some punctuation things but um

00:38:50.520 we're selling that gym merchandise because it's awesome but also because

00:38:57.880 we really do want our folks healthy and to be the very best that they can be um

00:39:02.760 Um, I, I notice every now and again, I don't want to, I don't know, I don't want to complain

00:39:12.800 or say this grumpy, but sometimes we'll take pictures and internet folks will point out

00:39:20.260 the, they'll point out fat people into pictures and whatever else, and they'll say something

00:39:30.820 mocking well we want all of our folk to come home and one of the big ways to help get healthy and

00:39:40.500 get in a better spot is by support of your community we get people at all levels of

00:39:48.900 perfection or lack thereof and as long as we're trying to move the right way we want to move the

00:39:54.900 right way together so what i think the internet trolls don't realize is we do a lot we have a

00:40:01.140 lot going on to try to encourage our people to get in the best shape they can and get healthy

00:40:06.500 and it's been really inspiring um it was one of the one of my key objectives that i mentioned

00:40:13.140 when i gave kind of my my speech when i first became also here you go when i was first installed

00:40:20.260 I talked about my commitment and the AFA's commitment going forward to helping our people

00:40:29.100 achieve mental, physical, and spiritual excellence. I want our people to be the very

00:40:38.420 best we can be and to help each other get there. And I've watched a lot of people's lives and

00:40:44.620 bodies and health literally transform because they've come together, been inspired by their

00:40:49.800 brothers and sisters in the AFA, to do better and to get in better shape. And I've seen amazing

00:40:54.820 things with that. So we really, really encourage it. It's important. And hopefully you can wear

00:41:01.040 some amazing products while you do sit. There you go. Back to action here. Section six,

00:41:17.720 the Austro-Folk Assembly. Founded in January of 1995, the Austro-Folk Assembly was the direct

00:41:26.700 successor of the Viking Brotherhood and the Austro-Free Assembly. The mandate from the

00:41:32.980 All-Father was clear. This new church would be explicitly folkish, exclusive to a particular

00:41:40.300 race. What had seemed common sense needed to be made explicit. The Alcetru Folk Assembly's

00:41:47.680 mandate is to call all our folk home to our rightful spiritual heritage, Alcetru. 0.87

00:41:57.560 Ordination. 0.94

00:42:00.960 Gothar are the priests of the Iser. Gothi is male. Githya is female.

00:42:08.280 Othen established a special relationship with our founder.

00:42:13.420 With that special relationship, Othen conferred spiritual authority and responsibility upon Stephen McNallan.

00:42:22.540 This spiritual authority and responsibility, coupled with active participation in the sacred gift cycle, since 1968 is the foundation of our priesthood.

00:42:34.960 all recognized gothar trace their ordination back to stephen mcnowlin and his relationship

00:42:42.560 with all father odin established in 1968 gothic ordination confers spiritual authority upon the

00:42:52.860 ordained this legitimate spiritual authority is bestowed from the iser by odin himself

00:43:01.480 Asheryagothi. Asheryagothi is the high priest of the Aesir and the leader of the Gothar and the

00:43:14.880 Ausatrufogasim. Ausatru was reforged by the vision and the effort of Stephen McNallan under

00:43:23.180 the sacred guidance and inspiration of the king and father of the Aesir, Odin. The continued

00:43:30.420 blessings of the Aesir flourish and prosper under the sacred authority of the Alsharir Gothi.

00:43:37.460 Among other things, the Alsharir Gothi is responsible for leading the folk,

00:43:42.420 directing the evolution and practice of Aesir, safeguarding the sacrality of the Aesir folk

00:43:49.140 assembly and the Gothar, maintaining and strengthening the connection between the Aesir

00:43:54.900 and the folk, and faithfully serving and implementing the will of the Aesir. 0.89

00:44:01.220 The theocratic autocracy of the Ausheriagothi is fundamental to the Ausitufolk assembly. 0.97

00:44:07.860 It was initiated by Allfather Odin in the image of his own authority in Ausgarther, 1.00

00:44:14.340 and it is blessed by the Aesir.

00:44:16.980 so it's the first two of our three parts

00:44:25.960 you were saying i was gonna say um this is a another uh i think very important if we're

00:44:35.960 breaking it down you know simply it's again it's about the folk returning home the folk becoming

00:44:43.160 noble and becoming ennobled in their deeds and what they're going to do. And then there is also

00:44:50.440 the understanding that our church was founded on sacred initiation, that there is a connection

00:44:59.040 from the divine to us and that that bears with it great responsibility. There is many blessings for

00:45:07.640 it. But there's also, again, the dedication and the piety towards the gods is built because of

00:45:13.720 the connected sacred initiation. And I've had conversations with folks on social media who

00:45:21.800 have claimed that, especially when they're coming from Abrahamic faiths, predominantly

00:45:28.840 Christians, you know, and speaking about how, you know, pagans don't actually believe in their gods,

00:45:36.180 they're just archetypes and there is no sacred initiation. There's no sense. And they're trying

00:45:43.340 to delegitimize the intricacies of which the gods work with the folk quite literally. And I think

00:45:53.720 it's disingenuous on their part. At the same time, it's clear, as in it is established.

00:46:06.180 And we know, and this has been passed down.

00:46:08.700 Now we are continuing on the legacy and holding true to the obligation and the gift cycle.

00:46:13.400 So this is a third tenet I think folks need to key in on, I guess, is the best way I can say it.

00:46:25.000 All right.

00:46:27.760 Part three, living Ausitru.

00:46:32.920 One second, we send off a note to Nick.

00:46:36.180 Oh, and I was going to comment too, just that folk have asked in the past, you know, what's going to happen, how is this going to happen is, you know, they had doubts and fears that the church itself would somehow be compromised. 0.91

00:46:59.340 But it's worth noting that the, you know, the theocratic autocracy is that in which the Algeria Gauthi is in the power to decree. There's not a council, there's not, or correction, sorry, there is a council, perhaps in the sense that there is a counseling of, you know, to ideas and things moving forward.

00:47:25.220 but ultimately they're held in the al-siragoti's hands this isn't a democracy there isn't a

00:47:31.140 congress things aren't caught up in um people trying to have power plays and trying to um

00:47:38.180 you know levy for favors and so on and so forth no there's it's very much built on you know again

00:47:45.780 merit and duty and then ultimately just uh the al-siragoti has the wisdom to have counselors

00:47:54.740 that he can get their opinions on things and then move forward with his decisions.

00:48:00.740 But it doesn't get mitigated in a lot of the, I guess, the rigmarole that I have seen

00:48:07.620 in organizations that have attempted and have gone nowhere near close, but

00:48:13.780 have left themselves to being torn apart by each other internally. And that does not happen.

00:48:21.780 that initiation of the sacred to our founder and then also to our elsewhere now and we believe if

00:48:32.180 and when there is a transference that will be also the creed um is uh is a is a very important part

00:48:41.860 that i think differentiates us from say you know fly by night uh groups that have been in the past

00:48:48.260 and so on so so part three living out so true also true is who we are and as such

00:48:58.640 also true is expressed through our deeds we practice our religion at our hafs houses worship

00:49:07.140 and during ritual certainly more than that we live our religion every day of our lives

00:49:15.000 from the moment we rise each morning until we lay our heads to rest each evening.

00:49:20.800 Beliefs, intentions, and ideals are worthless until they manifest into deeds.

00:49:28.520 We are our deeds.

00:49:32.240 Section 1, Community.

00:49:36.120 Ausatru is about relationships.

00:49:38.680 It's about our relationship with the Iser, our relationship with our ancestors.

00:49:45.000 and our relationship with our folk, and our relationships with the other beings we encounter.

00:49:53.080 These relationships are the proving ground for our ideals.

00:49:58.520 These relationships are the context through which we live our values.

00:50:05.860 Through interaction, our worth is judged.

00:50:10.320 Worth creates our reputation, our fame, or our infamy.

00:50:17.220 Reputation is a spiritual currency and has power.

00:50:21.460 This power is felt by both friend and foe.

00:50:25.600 Reputation matters.

00:50:28.680 Family.

00:50:30.820 The family is the foundation of community.

00:50:33.880 The coupling of a man and woman of our folk in sacred marriage, and the offspring their union produces, are the core of our noble folk.

00:50:46.280 Loyalty to the Iser is essential to the health of the Ausatru family.

00:50:51.780 Loyalty to kin is particularly integral to Ausatru as families share in Hymenae, a familial luck and reputation.

00:51:00.220 the sum total of all hymenia is manifest as the woven tapestry of warlock

00:51:08.400 oh may i step in on one thing you may i wanted to say i just saw something and i was thinking to

00:51:16.880 myself um there's a part in here when we talk about the community and we talk about our relationship

00:51:22.540 um or sorry it's in in the in the um introduction of living house truth

00:51:27.880 this uh we practice our religion at our hafs houses of worship i can see people saying well

00:51:34.520 are you saying that uh because you know if we do it at home or if we do it at a park we do it with

00:51:41.320 kindreds you're not practicing the the relationship or the religion with the ice here and i i it

00:51:49.960 strikes me because as this has come out a lot of people have kind of asked these questions

00:51:54.120 and it's like there's nothing further from the truth of it is is that the reality is is that

00:52:01.360 we practice our faith at our hops especially national events if you can make it out to them

00:52:06.220 that's the one time you can absolutely um connect to your community even beyond your you know county

00:52:13.320 or state um and you start to see you know a large group of people and these national events happen

00:52:20.360 at our hoffs and you know we are i practice at home you know i practice or i you know i hold um

00:52:28.760 you know bloats during some moots that are available to do that um but ultimately culminates

00:52:35.480 to our hoffs we're not saying you can't or it's not legitimate if you do it at home if you pray

00:52:43.160 to the gods at home um and i've seen people kind of ask these questions like that and again like

00:52:49.240 what you had said in the beginning this is a thou shout not a thou shalt not it's a it's about

00:52:56.760 positive so we talked about the soul sickness one of the soul sickness symptoms that's very

00:53:06.600 self-evident is this hypersensitivity and i've noticed this manifest in a lot of different ways

00:53:19.240 People that read into things, things that are clearly not stated, not there, and then infer an insult that doesn't exist, I want to laugh and make fun, but at a distance, it's just very sad.

00:53:43.680 we have people that have been so very very weakened that we have trigger warnings and like

00:53:52.080 nonsense because everyone is so quick to take offense i've had times where

00:53:57.840 i talked about how much we value our families in the afa and then i've had people reach out

00:54:05.200 who didn't have any children angry saying that the afa hates people that don't have kids

00:54:13.680 It's not true at all. Every time I talk about fitness, we get some fatty over on the side

00:54:20.460 wants to say, hey, AFA is mean to me. No, no, we're not. I celebrated something that was good.

00:54:28.920 Every time we're in sumble and somebody raises a toast to men, generally,

00:54:34.560 somebody's got to be like, girls are good too. 0.85

00:54:37.200 that comes from a place of weakness and that's part of the soul sickness we're trying to cure 0.99

00:54:46.100 saying one thing positive about someone or something that isn't your current experience

00:54:53.580 isn't a stab at you it is a celebration of the ideal way to do things or something that we want

00:55:00.900 to to celebrate in a perfect world of course you do stuff at your home but you would come together

00:55:08.620 at hoffs and participate in ritual at our holy hoffs that's what we should do sometimes it's

00:55:16.460 not available and so you make the best of what you have but a lot of the time that that knee

00:55:23.020 jerk response is if somebody's attacking you or delegitimizing you i'm sad that people feel that

00:55:29.600 way. I don't feel the AFA needs to defend ourselves against those charges, but

00:55:35.800 I'm really sorry that people are in a state where that damages them. And honestly, this that we're

00:55:43.460 doing here is my very best way I know how to try to heal the soul sickness that's in our fault,

00:55:50.140 that that's part of. So hopefully if you come over here and you do this with us,

00:55:54.800 that won't be the state that you find yourself years from now.

00:55:59.640 And it won't be the state that your kids find themselves.

00:56:02.280 And that's what we're trying to build.

00:56:21.260 Folk within.

00:56:22.300 we have a special relationship with the Astro Folk Assembly family.

00:56:27.640 We are united with our AFA brothers and sisters before the Yisir

00:56:31.540 through worship and gifting as a group.

00:56:34.480 And as a group, we share a special group, Hemenya.

00:56:37.460 This special relationship requires special trust and loyalty.

00:56:43.080 Members of the AFA are an inner yard inside the fence or wall.

00:56:50.060 the folk without. The Ausatru Folk Assembly has a sacred mandate to bring our folk home.

00:56:58.340 Our folk who have not yet returned to Ausatru are still our folk. We share a common ancestry,

00:57:05.480 common traditions, and are united by a common folk soul.

00:57:12.320 These folk who are not yet Ausatru are still do a special preference and are of special concern to us.

00:57:21.060 Aryan folk who are not yet Ausitru are in Utengarther, outer yard, outside the fence or wall. 1.00

00:57:31.000 Other beings. 1.00

00:57:35.580 All other beings who are not our gods or our folk are not fundamentally our focus.

00:57:42.980 Our interactions with other beings are dictated by circumstance and context.

00:57:48.440 we share reality with a wide array of living things and there are nearly infinite possible

00:57:56.880 scenarios of interaction with any number of these beings it is important that we live our values

00:58:04.860 when we interact with all beings each of us represents all of us to those outside our circles

00:58:12.440 It is our duty to build and maintain our reputation as a noble people, with noble gods, and to exemplify our nobility with the way in which we interact with others.

00:58:26.740 sorry just checking the

00:58:37.800 comments and stuff

00:58:39.980 because we got a section

00:58:41.520 break

00:58:42.660 and

00:58:51.620 sending a note to Nick because I noticed

00:58:53.980 a typo that I'm trying to fix

00:58:55.660 cool this is a process i've we've been through this the fine tooth comb but there's always

00:59:02.680 always something more to to hone and make better well um sure to interject a little bit there might

00:59:13.220 be the usage of a word that folks are not familiar with yet because of depending on

00:59:18.820 what level of understanding of the faith that they're at um you know you come into it new

00:59:26.120 you might not have any family members you might not have been raised in the faith and um you're

00:59:32.300 trying to learn a lot of stuff our ancestors were born into it and had a kind of innate sense as

00:59:38.540 they lived their lives but for folks new to the faith and coming into it it's understandable

00:59:47.000 you might not know all these words. One of them is Haminya. Haminya is mentioned both in

00:59:56.400 the family and the folk within. Haminya is a part of your soul, but it is a part of your soul that

01:00:06.000 you connect with other members of your family. It's also that which may be passed down from your

01:00:14.560 predecessors and that which you give over to your descendants it is a malleable um

01:00:21.600 form that kind of again rises and falls based on your deeds your notoriety or your

01:00:27.600 reputation as it was mentioned before um making tangible efforts to build your notoriety and your

01:00:35.600 and your reputation around people is important and this may help answer some other questions later but

01:00:44.560 Things that detract from your, your humming, yeah, in essence, and I hate to use it, but I mean, it's the best way to kind of get people to focus on it is it's like a sense of luck, a sense of blessing or a sense of, of perhaps good things.

01:01:05.500 if your haminya is well and good and seen as healthy, if it is seen as low, then perhaps you

01:01:13.200 experience the opposite of luck. And oftentimes, folks have to fight through bad haminya. It's not

01:01:24.360 an eternal doom, but it is something that requires us to perhaps even fight harder. And again, we

01:01:32.320 don't believe in equality. It's some folks, you know, the people before them have taken great

01:01:39.200 care in making sure that they're Haminha strong and they pass it down, you know, to their

01:01:47.360 descendants. And perhaps even they having bad Haminha built themselves up to pass it on. And 0.95

01:01:55.720 sometimes the child has to, you know, deal with kind of both aspects of perhaps the generations

01:02:01.520 before and their parents, but it is a part of the soul that grows or diminishes based on deeds and

01:02:10.880 based on perhaps the results of deeds that are felt, you know, long beyond they've happened.

01:02:18.760 And this happens with, say, you know, relatives or parents or grandparents who have done

01:02:25.280 deeds that are really detracting from the value of the child's perhaps in their luck or what have

01:02:34.180 you. Um, and it's kind of hard to pin down, but it's, it's something to keep in mind that

01:02:42.440 when you start to change your life, when you start to take the deeds to make your life better,

01:02:49.700 make yourself better work hard and go towards towards the gods and towards your ancestors and

01:02:55.860 really re-healing even to the distant ancestors um you start on a process of building up your

01:03:02.660 haminga the other thing is is and i think this is one i've witnessed far too much is when people

01:03:08.900 take oaths when you take an oath you are laying your humming on the line and for you to not get

01:03:17.140 clarity to that oath and for you to turn away from the the spoken word of of your intended deeds um

01:03:26.420 you end up hurting that as well so oaths are not to be you know uh taken lightly they are

01:03:35.140 quite literally attached to your soul and for you to take an oath and then turn on it

01:03:42.980 is not good. It draws away. And it's kind of like I've always kind of akin to a balloon getting a

01:03:52.980 small pinprick that allows the water to drain out. You may not feel it right away. And I think

01:04:00.060 in a lot of ways, when people turn away from their oaths, they try to rectify or kind of construct

01:04:06.180 and ideal that the reasoning why or what have you but over time and slowly but surely the aminya

01:04:13.700 gets affected and the only way again that you can atone for that is through deeds and correction of

01:04:20.100 those moving forward um but even then you might still have to deal with the repercussions of your

01:04:26.820 actions like ripples you know once the rock is thrown it's kind of thrown so it's something that

01:04:33.780 we take great care of and it comes it's really important when we speak about the folk within

01:04:39.860 when we talk about friv and people throw that word around um perhaps to think of it simply as peace

01:04:46.740 but really too it is it is reciprocal um effort to work together it's reciprocal effort to listen to

01:04:56.580 your your folk within in the inner guard first especially if somebody in the outer guard is

01:05:02.500 you know claiming something the first thing you need to do is look in the inner guard and figure

01:05:08.020 things out before you just you know start uh lighting up the the the burn pyre or what have

01:05:15.860 you um and i think that for people to better understand that that's directly connected to our

01:05:22.900 soul and so it is a very very important part a component in a lot of the um ideological framing

01:05:30.340 and trajectory of what we're trying to do. Before we continue, Ronald Boardman, one of our

01:05:39.640 folk builders in New Hampshire, donated five coffees, which is $25. We appreciate you. We

01:05:48.180 appreciate you very much. And as a bonus, and so I don't forget, he asked how I was able to

01:05:53.700 get my tie so perfect for the little circle thing. He ended up right in the middle. That is a happy

01:06:00.320 accident on one level if you will perhaps it is through right living and the mysteries of the

01:06:06.960 rhido room when you start doing the right things right time synchronicities start occurring in

01:06:13.520 beneficial ways but it didn't work out well i'm pleased with it tonight last uh episode you brought

01:06:20.880 up um the tie game kind of getting upped and now i'm slowly starting to realize my beard is like

01:06:27.680 hiding my um my trinity or tripartite knot as i would call it um it's not your beard it's just

01:06:35.680 kind of the shadow from your light source i think if your light was angled different we'd be able

01:06:39.840 to see it yeah i got just a basic under beard that's popping out yeah it's uh i'm definitely

01:06:49.120 trying to up the game as well and keep in paces with my uh my fellow folk

01:06:54.640 um all right so

01:07:03.200 how's true ritual we formally interact with our ancestors with our folk

01:07:09.440 and with the icr through ritual the most basic form of ritual

01:07:17.200 are the devotional rites and prayers done in the home at home altars

01:07:22.960 so for folks that read the first part of this and came to spawn with their concerns

01:07:29.020 keep reading because we address your concerns uh rituals and so folks i promise you i wrote

01:07:37.940 most of this so my stumbling over the reading there's no excuse for other than in the editing

01:07:44.220 process different people have suggested little tweaks here and there that i think

01:07:48.600 mess with, I guess, my natural flow on it. But I did write a great deal of this. Svan very

01:07:57.760 specifically helped me with a lot of this, especially in the section talking about the

01:08:03.700 gods and the goddesses. So he deserves a lot of credit for that. And we had other people help

01:08:09.140 along the way, especially with editing. But as far as really putting in content, Svan was who I

01:08:15.440 leaned on for that during this. Rituals at home or with a larger group generally include a shared

01:08:24.340 meal. Sharing a meal is a fundamental act to build relationships. The gift cycle, the foundation of

01:08:33.700 our true ritual, is the gift cycle. We exchange gifts with the Isir and we share with one another.

01:08:41.140 The exchange of gifts builds relationships. Gifts are inherently unequal, as we are all inherently unequal. With all gifting, it is the thought, the intention, that counts.

01:08:56.560 Offerings to the ancestors and to the Aesir can be physical, but the true gift is the intentional and emotional energy imbued into the gift.

01:09:08.760 When gifting is done ritually, the power of the exchange is greater than the sum of the gifts exchanged.

01:09:16.100 It is elevated to something more.

01:09:19.080 The relationships built by the gift cycle increase as the cycle continues.

01:09:26.560 over the course of time this exchange is expressed in the runic formula alu or ansus

01:09:35.360 laugus urus ansus the divine yesir laugus the fluid of transmission blood or mead

01:09:47.680 urus the primal the flesh the folk

01:09:56.560 Oh, actually, you know, never mind. I mean, it's going to be kind of covered in the next

01:10:03.320 section. I was just thinking about how, you know, a lot of people coming into our faith

01:10:11.240 and understanding how, I guess we could use the word communion, if you will. But it is

01:10:17.420 a gift cycle that doesn't always involve say uh you know communing through through a sacred uh

01:10:25.980 liquid but almost 90 of the time it is but i've seen um very pious folk giving flowers

01:10:36.220 um i've seen very pious folk giving um gifts that they have worked on perhaps crafts and things like

01:10:43.420 that as well but it you know it does kind of boil down to the skein of the the the liquid the the

01:10:52.700 sacred vessel that holds the aloo within it and that what that's what makes the aloo what it is

01:11:00.220 is that transmission of of faith of the folk as the horn is passed um you know and sometimes folk

01:11:07.180 i say like at at home um you know generally you uh you gift gift the uh the mead out and when you 0.95

01:11:16.540 come to the hoffs you know the gothar take it upon themselves as their kind of the responsibility of

01:11:22.140 holding that humming together and saying you know please if the gods see us of worth and

01:11:30.300 you know we we seek to to gain their blessings if they do you know we ask them that they they

01:11:36.780 share it amongst the folk and that the gothar are kind of taking on that that um kind of overall

01:11:43.260 responsibility of being the mediator between uh that bridge between so the gift cycle and the

01:11:51.500 receiving of blessings by gothar are it's that's really strong mechanics of what's being done if

01:12:00.620 you ever come to like a national event where you come to a hoff and you and you get to experience

01:12:06.300 that and see that um even though it happens very naturally these are the inner workings

01:12:12.140 the mechanics of that of those situations all right so bloat

01:12:27.020 there was an old custom that when there was to be sacrifice all the bondies or all the bonds

01:12:34.060 should come to the spot where the temple stood

01:12:37.460 and bring with them all that they required

01:12:40.400 while the festival of sacrifice lasted.

01:12:45.240 To this festival, all the men brought ale with them

01:12:49.120 and all kinds of cattle as well as horses were slaughtered

01:12:52.840 and all the blood that came from them was called plout

01:12:56.540 and the vessels in which it was collected

01:12:58.240 were called plout vessels.

01:13:00.060 Plout staves were made like sprinkling brushes, with which the whole of the altars and the temple walls, both outside and inside, were sprinkled over, and also the people were sprinkled with the blood, but the flesh was boiled into savory meat for those present.

01:13:19.240 Saga of Halkin the Good

01:13:21.500 The most fundamental group out of true ritual is bloat, offering, or sacrifice. 0.99

01:13:32.020 A bloat, in the most basic form, consists of the assembled folk giving an offering to one of the Aesir through the officiating of a Gothi, 0.93

01:13:42.120 and in return, the Gothi distributing blessings from one of the Aesir to the assembled folk.

01:13:48.180 This ritual is most commonly performed in a circular formation, with all the movement in a sun-wise direction.

01:13:58.900 The offering and blessings are typically given through intention-imbued mead.

01:14:08.100 Summel

01:14:08.820 the fire was in the middle of the floor of the temple and over it hung the kettles and the full

01:14:20.440 goblets were handed across the fire and he who made the feast and was a gothi blessed the full

01:14:27.980 goblets and all the meat of the sacrifice and first odin's goblet was emptied for victory

01:14:34.800 and power to his king.

01:14:37.860 Thereafter,

01:14:39.480 Njord's and Freyr's goblet

01:14:41.620 for peace and a good season.

01:14:45.400 Then it was the custom of many

01:14:47.100 to empty the Brighaful, 0.96

01:14:49.200 and then the guests

01:14:50.220 emptied a goblet

01:14:51.100 to the memory of departed friends 0.87

01:14:52.880 called the Nimi,

01:14:54.820 Saga of Halkan the Good.

01:14:58.360 During Summel, 0.66

01:15:00.000 the folk speak over

01:15:01.120 and drink from a communal horn.

01:15:04.060 The sumble horn represents the well of shared hominia for those who sit in that sumble.

01:15:10.920 When bright words are spoken over the horn, all in attendance are elevated.

01:15:16.840 When ill words are spoken or sumble oaths broken, all participants are lessened.

01:15:24.520 High sumble has three rounds of ritual toasting and drinking.

01:15:29.300 Round one consists of toast to the Iser.

01:15:33.200 Round two is for toasts to ancestors of the folk. 0.98

01:15:38.940 We only toast the dead during round two.

01:15:42.640 Round three is the round of the heroes.

01:15:46.220 It is a more free-form round where toasts are made to heroes, to friends, or perhaps to others present.

01:15:54.180 Round three is also an auspicious time to make oaths, to boast of deeds accomplished, or victories won.

01:16:01.460 Women of status served as hornbearers during high sumble, taking possession of the horn between each toast and offering the horn to the next participant.

01:16:12.320 Waeltheo came in Hrothgar's queen observing the courtesies adorned in her gold she graciously

01:16:23.880 saluted the men in a hall then handed the cup first to Hrothgar their homeland's guardian

01:16:30.680 urging him to drink deep and enjoy it because he was dear to them and he drank it down like

01:16:36.620 a warlord he was with festive cheer so the helming women went on her rounds a woman went on her

01:16:46.260 rounds queenly and dignified decked out in rings offering the goblet to all ranks treating the

01:16:53.180 household and the assembled true beowulf um i saw a question kind of pertaining to this section i

01:17:03.980 wanted to address it. Because it's an interesting but short question. Chris Lucott asked,

01:17:14.060 when we hold bloat, is it wrong or theologically incorrect to consider the mead or wine

01:17:22.580 as transubstantiated into blood during the bloat? That is a super interesting question. I'm assuming

01:17:32.300 that you're talking about the blood of the sacrifice or the sacrificial animal um it is

01:17:39.740 worth noting that our ancestors spoke about the idea of uh a bread bloat i uh a i and i know it's

01:17:50.780 kind of funny considering modern usage of the word uh bloating but uh or let's say you know an an ale

01:17:59.180 blotar or um a bread blotar and of course do we also know that our ancestors gave uh weapons and

01:18:09.020 items of value as well um and the mead is again a gift that gift has its its power in um perhaps it

01:18:20.620 was brewed or perhaps it was even bought and utilized money that was that was there that gave

01:18:27.020 it it's fehu or its value um but it got me thinking and one thing that i would say

01:18:36.700 where you're not entirely wrong is that the need of inspiration comes from the first

01:18:44.860 storyteller kvasir and that sprinkling upon the earth by the high priest of the gods

01:18:55.260 his bedecking of the earth with that sprinkling is that anointment and the mead does have a

01:19:03.100 uh a sense of symbolization of that that blood which is the need of inspiration gained through

01:19:10.860 the trials of lord odin when he received the the the great boon from battle song gun loath in the

01:19:20.060 mountain so um is it one for one no but does it have correlation or at least some substantiation

01:19:27.340 to speak about and when i saw your question i was like yeah undoubtedly we need to we need

01:19:31.420 to mention that so his his follow-up to it though was he said he only mentions it because you

01:19:37.660 likened it to communion and i think it

01:19:40.620 both consuming the host in christianity and bloat are forms of a communion i think it goes back to

01:19:57.100 the root word of communion communion as a catholic ritual is similar that they're all sharing

01:20:06.860 something and consumption is involved in the sharing but in a very strange

01:20:19.420 ritualized cannibalism thing that's very odd

01:20:27.840 believe it or not I tried to put that as not insulting as I can but that's an element that's

01:20:36.000 extremely different we are communing with our gods and our folk in the sense that we are sharing the

01:20:42.600 meal um one of the so it's fun make to your point

01:20:51.040 if you want to in your mind picture the meat is representing blood in some kind of way to

01:21:07.060 bring you closer the AFA has no fatwa against you thinking that

01:21:12.880 But you don't need to, and the fact that you think you need to creates, I think, the bigger divergence.

01:21:28.480 No, ritually, the mead that we are using is not transformed into the blood of a hog or a horse or whatever the case might be.

01:21:38.940 for you to think that's necessary is for you to allow Abrahamic conditioning to affect how you

01:21:51.540 relate to our gods. That is less than ideal. If that's kind of a stepping stone, you need to

01:21:58.940 understand it better. I'm not telling you, you can't, but it's not that. And I think that when

01:22:05.600 we this is one of i this goes into a larger argument when you are larping something when

01:22:14.640 anything you do is pretend you are adding a element and even if it's a very small element

01:22:23.200 please don't project something bigger to what i'm saying but when you add any element of

01:22:29.120 untruth or

01:22:33.520 it's not a lie but it is less genuine than the open sharing I would think the best with our gods

01:22:48.540 When any element is fanciful or pretend or there's that taint to it, that's one step further away from our gods that you are able to get during that ritual.

01:23:05.440 our gods know that it's not blood you know that it's not blood to pretend that it's blood

01:23:14.560 adds a silliness that doesn't need need to be there

01:23:18.880 and the reason that it's important in a catholic communion is not relevant to this process

01:23:29.020 that ritual wasn't about a group of jews sharing a meal it was very much about consuming the essence

01:23:40.840 of their god-made flesh in a unique way that's not what we're doing in bloat

01:23:53.060 But the communal aspect of it is as a community, we are sharing something with our gods.

01:24:02.080 So the meal that is formed from the animal sacrifice goes to our gods.

01:24:07.460 Now, there is something cool about an animal bloat that's different with the common bloat of mead.

01:24:19.420 And I'm not saying that that's not the situation.

01:24:23.060 When you are placing something on something living, and then that immediately is transferred beyond the veil into the land of the dead, that's special in its own way.

01:24:35.640 As Fawn points out, there was ale bloats and bread bloats, an offering of many things.

01:24:42.560 When you go back into the word bloat, it doesn't one for one go to blood like I thought it did.

01:24:49.520 When I was researching this document to go back in the Indo-European, I think it'd be ignorant to say there wasn't some connection at some point linguistically, but it wasn't bloat equals blood. It equals sacrifice.

01:25:03.040 so it was much more about the offering than it was about the blood in particular the blood was

01:25:10.000 an element when an animal was involved but the other thing that makes it very dissimilar to

01:25:16.380 different types of sacrifices that other religions might do

01:25:24.580 the animals shared as a communal feast bringing the folk and the gods and the ancestors together

01:25:33.020 to eat together. And that's why at the beginning of this section, the sharing of a meal together

01:25:39.260 is what brings families together. It's what builds bonds and relationship. We have a hall culture

01:25:46.580 all about feasting together, communally. Even in the secular age that we live in, it is still the

01:25:54.380 most common, wholesome thing in American culture, and I would imagine other culture as well.

01:26:00.940 for a family to get around a table and share a meal together or to invite a guest to come

01:26:06.820 eat at their table. That's a fundamental to building relationships. And it is the basis

01:26:12.680 and the fundamental to our, our ritual structure.

01:26:21.140 Well, I was, uh, just to open up one slight thing that may be coming about if you're new

01:26:28.160 to Ausatru and people ask you, are you giving, you know, sacrifices of animals and so on and so

01:26:34.740 forth. Our ancestors certainly did. Some folk now today do this, but again, it is on that caveat

01:26:41.400 that you're sharing a community meal. So it's sacral butchering to feed many folk and to do

01:26:52.020 this so i you know i've been at members homes that own uh livestock and they commit to this

01:26:59.220 and they um you know they have you know uh luckily like to preside and to to go over these things

01:27:08.380 um and to share that but again it is not the entirety of all gifts many gifts and and bloats

01:27:16.320 come in many forms so you know and there are there are uh bloats or um perhaps gifting cycles that

01:27:24.240 you know we we don't do anymore and i would say that's kind of like again looking at um

01:27:30.080 uh especially like captured uh enemies uh you know you see this a lot in the lore um

01:27:37.680 but at the same time it's not the entirety and yeah it's we don't convolute the idea that

01:27:43.600 need is blood or or that uh vice versa everything is the gift that it is the general idea is that

01:27:50.640 the gift is imbued with the might of the folks surrounded and it is um in essence

01:27:58.400 there is a deficiency by removing the gift and then transferring the gift um at a cost

01:28:06.720 that cost is you know whether it's uh like for a lot of folks um you know traveling great distances

01:28:13.600 spending money to get there they meet they share community with their folk that is

01:28:20.800 part of what goes into the horn there's a coalescence of sacrifice happening

01:28:28.400 all the way from the moment you leave your door to the moment you touch the horn and

01:28:34.400 what comes out of that is the bonds and the community that you have with the gods and with

01:28:39.360 with your folk.

01:28:44.300 Absolutely.

01:28:46.980 Ausavatni, it was then the custom

01:28:51.400 to choose the best men to water sprinkle

01:28:54.280 or give names to the children of highborn men.

01:28:58.120 When the time came at which Thora expected

01:29:00.460 to bear her child, she wished to go and find King Harald.

01:29:04.540 He was then north at Saheim, while she at Mostert, she went northward on Sigurd Jarl's ship.

01:29:17.500 During the night, they lay near the shore, and Thora bore a son on the rock at the end of the bridge.

01:29:25.100 Sigurd Jarl sprinkled water, water sprinkled the boy, and called him Halken, after his father Halken plowed the Jarl.

01:29:34.540 A Saga of Harold Hauerfager.

01:29:40.180 Aosavatny means sprinkling of water.

01:29:43.720 The ritual act of bestowing a name upon an object or a person initiates a spiritual identity and a hymenya.

01:29:54.160 In the case of a new baby, the soul complex develops fully over time and is incomplete at birth.

01:30:02.540 After a new baby has survived the first nine days of life, an Asuvatni is performed.

01:30:09.900 In an Asuvatni, the Nurnir and the Isir are invoked to witness, and ideally, to bless the occasion and the baby.

01:30:19.940 At this time, name is given to the new baby.

01:30:23.940 The name is affixed to the baby by the sprinkling water.

01:30:27.480 the baby is introduced to the iser and to the assembled folk and his or her new life given

01:30:37.200 orientation and context within our folk within our faith community and as a child of the iser

01:30:46.660 toasts are made to the baby and the baby's family and at this time the baby's soul is made complete

01:30:54.500 and his or her identity

01:30:56.340 fixed.

01:31:05.660 One second.

01:31:06.880 I'm sending a note

01:31:08.300 to Nick.

01:31:18.720 That's finding all the typos

01:31:21.040 to go. I am.

01:31:22.600 there's a ton it's kind of embarrassing uh marriage their marriage code however is strict 1.00

01:31:30.840 and indeed no part of their manners is more praiseworthy almost alone among barbarians 0.97

01:31:38.440 they are content with one wife except a very few among them and these not from sensuality

01:31:45.240 but because their noble birth procures for them many offers of alliance the wife does not

01:31:50.840 bring a dower to the husband, but the husband to the wife. The parents and relatives are present

01:31:56.740 and pass judgment on the marriage gifts. Gifts not meant to suit a woman's taste,

01:32:02.820 nor such as a bride would deck herself with, but oxen, comparison steed, a shield, a lance,

01:32:12.140 and a sword. With these presents the wife is espoused and she herself in her turn brings her 0.78

01:32:21.560 husband a gift of arms. This they count their strongest bond of union. These their sacred

01:32:28.480 mysteries. These their gods of marriage. Lest the woman should think herself to stand apart from

01:32:34.660 aspirations after noble deeds and from the perils of war. She is reminded by the ceremony which

01:32:40.880 inaugurates marriage, that she is her husband's partner in toil and danger, destined to stuff her

01:32:47.300 and to dare with him alike, both in peace and in war. The yoked oxen, the harnessed steed, the gift

01:32:54.400 of arms, proclaim this fact. She must live and die with the feeling that she has received what she

01:33:00.960 must hand down to her children, neither tarnished nor depreciated. What future daughters-in-law

01:33:08.200 may receive and may be so passed on to her grandchildren germania chapter 18 family is

01:33:19.240 the foundation of our folk the building block of community and essential to aussitry

01:33:27.160 in marriage between one man and one woman of our folk is the foundations for the austral family

01:33:33.240 The bond of marriage is binding. Marriage has consequence and gravity.

01:33:40.840 Ausatru Gothar only perform legally binding, where such laws exist, weddings for a man and woman of our folk.

01:33:50.800 Solemnized by a Gothi, these oaths are spoken under the watchful eyes of the Aesir. 0.66

01:34:00.720 Funeral 0.95

01:34:01.520 Thus he, Othin, established by law that all dead men should be burned, and their belongings laid with them upon the pile, and the ashes be cast into the sea or buried in the earth. 0.66

01:34:16.480 Thus said he, everyone will come to Valhalla with the riches he had with him upon the pile, and he would also enjoy whatever he himself had buried in the earth.

01:34:28.520 For men of consequence, a mound should be raised to their memory, and for all other warriors who had been distinguished, for manhood, a standing stone.

01:34:40.680 Which custom remained long after Odin's time, in Lingasaga.

01:34:48.800 A son is better, though late he be born, and his father to death have fared.

01:34:56.720 Memory stones seldom stand by the road, save when kinsman honors his kin.

01:35:03.640 How them all, 72.

01:35:07.300 The preferred handling of the body after death is cremation and interment of the ashes.

01:35:14.780 We orient the gravesite westward towards the setting sun and the land beyond the veil.

01:35:22.180 We mark the grave with a monument to help ensure the deceased is long remembered.

01:35:28.360 The grave itself becomes an altar and a sacred place to honor and communicate with the deceased.

01:35:35.140 An Austrof funeral ritually acknowledges the passing of one of our beloved folk.

01:35:41.480 The funeral grants an auspicious start to a soul's journey, a voyage beyond the veil.

01:35:46.960 It is a time to beseech the ancestors and the Aesir to welcome the deceased and to grant them an honored destination in the afterlife.

01:35:57.320 The funeral is also a time to aid in posthumous ascension.

01:36:02.860 Existence does not end at death.

01:36:05.440 That said, there is always opportunity for one's worth to increase, even after death.

01:36:11.560 One way to aid a soul's ascension is to build their fame through sprinkling of their, I'm sorry, build their fame through speaking of their deeds and through doing deeds in their honor.

01:36:26.260 At the funeral, we raise toasts, we tell stories, we remember.

01:36:31.580 There's the duty of the living to remember the dead and celebrate the memory of the worthy.

01:36:40.900 kind of commenting here on um some of the comments going on on the side not questions but

01:36:49.060 uh again is one of those kind of clear correlations where you see how um baptismal

01:36:58.660 um from the bible is kind of converted into or like synthesizing with an already established

01:37:05.940 tradition of the sprinkling of the child. And so, you know, that's why you see some denominations

01:37:12.000 that they don't believe that the sprinkling of the child is correct, that it should be done in

01:37:16.480 a later date or age. Whereas, you know, the sprinkling of the child, and I saw somebody

01:37:25.120 mentioned, you know, if you think about a lot of the traditions that the Abrahamic faiths have in

01:37:30.280 west most of them got it from the predecessing faith uh that was in um europe so and that's us

01:37:39.560 um the other thing is is that i think the one of the things that moved me the most when i was

01:37:47.320 initially um coming into the also true folk assembly was not only the determination the

01:37:53.320 dogged determination to make places where our folk could gather together to honor the gods

01:38:00.280 uh but also the the extreme determination to make a place for our folk to have those ashes laid

01:38:11.000 in a place where they would be continuously honored and and respected and that there is

01:38:17.320 there is a gift cycle to them as well on at the hoffs and that cannot be understated that's one

01:38:25.720 of the reasons why the hoffs have come into existence and i remember from the from the onset

01:38:30.600 i was here ago that you uh were very very determined to make this point and even when

01:38:37.720 we found a grave at thor's hoff from a pre the pre-existing um you know the the stone was in

01:38:45.320 dereliction it was broken it was half buried we un we we dug it up we cleaned it off we tried to

01:38:53.640 determine the best that we could through the knowledge that we had finding out the the person's

01:38:58.600 name and also that his his wife is buried across the street in the cemetery so there's no knowing

01:39:04.680 why only one body was placed there and then moved perhaps because of land issues or what have you

01:39:11.080 but that we built a a gravestone and honored him um even though it clearly says he's a christian

01:39:19.240 we didn't place anything of our faith other than the life rune and the death rune but we spoke of

01:39:24.440 on this land you will be honored and you will be remembered which is far more than what

01:39:31.160 the predecessing um you know uh spoke the christians that were there and i think that's because

01:39:38.840 it really is an isolation of the soul the caveat is is between you and yahweh and if you broke the

01:39:45.720 the covenant then you got your problems and if you didn't then you're all good but anything beyond

01:39:50.000 that is uh nigh close to you know what they consider you know devil worship or demon worship

01:39:56.240 but for us honoring the dead is hugely important even for the folks that are the folk that's buried

01:40:04.660 there before um that isn't even of our faith so that was a huge part and i i don't know if people

01:40:12.280 miss it. Perhaps it's not, you know, emphasized a lot, but now having sacred burial ground at

01:40:19.280 Odinshof, sacred burial ground at Njörðshof, at Thorshof, we still have only one, and that's

01:40:27.300 kind of a sad story why. We would have had one of our own folk there if they had committed to the

01:40:33.780 will that they wanted that to happen. So it is really important that make sure folks, you, you

01:40:41.580 know our faith now has a place for you to rest you should come home you should get work towards being

01:40:50.380 better being stronger being noble and as you live your life and build your community you can know

01:40:57.260 that one when you're when you're older when you're an elder you will be honored respected and people

01:41:03.660 will consider your welfare and being i think that's another thing i've noticed in some of the

01:41:08.660 more perhaps fly by night or the social club kind of internet as a true folks is um they don't have

01:41:17.560 a substantiated place to to lay the dead and they don't have a welfare and being for their elders

01:41:24.040 very rarely do they have elders um and just as important for for us to have children present

01:41:32.020 and doing things and learning the ways of our folk is that there's also the end of life um

01:41:38.160 processes and uh we have that and we've had that under the guidance of alzheimer go the and the

01:41:46.340 again the dogged determination to make sure that it happens and i don't think people um truly

01:41:53.360 appreciate that if you will so driving that home a little bit more

01:42:00.580 no i it's we have people just this last weekend out repairing graves at sigerheim

01:42:08.660 so

01:42:12.660 as far as linguistics i am not the expert that i would like to be but i am trying on it

01:42:23.700 i mentioned in going through this

01:42:25.620 the best and some of it's speculative that i can trace the word load goes back to a proto-indo-european

01:42:46.240 uh it's hard because they've got funny pronunciation things but like blad which

01:42:53.940 meant offering or sacrifice whereas the um the root of blood goes back to something else that

01:43:06.820 is akin to like blossoming or swelling and that's again some of that when you get that far back

01:43:16.280 is speculative, but like bleh, B-L-E-H, with funny pronunciation things next to them, so please

01:43:24.220 don't, it's not, is what it do, but which is to bloom. So, and I had always assumed that

01:43:33.320 bloat was a reference to blood as well. It's one of those things, again, I said at the top of the

01:43:39.020 program, you hear these things repeated so many times, you just assume that's the way things are

01:43:42.900 until you look at it um it's like last week uh somebody talking about lead the goda

01:43:52.340 meaning you know oh that meant light or like white skin but didn't admit good like

01:44:02.900 good good looks or or pleasing pleasing visage or as always you know kind of the traditional

01:44:10.980 pronunciation goodly hue like goodly coloring um so yeah it's worth re-examining some of these things

01:44:20.980 um oh i was gonna say too it might be muted for a brief moment i have um family in for the the

01:44:29.140 fourth of july and i think they're coming in right now so i might be muted for a moment

01:44:34.660 you should invite them to uh enjoy victory never sleeps with us 0.99

01:44:40.980 I think they're dragging in a bunch of young'uns. They went to a late, late movie, and I'm sure 0.72

01:44:48.380 they're going to be carrying someone over the shoulder.

01:44:52.260 Victory never sleeps in a joy for all ages.

01:45:00.040 But here we go. So section three, nobility through deeds. Arian means noble. The truth

01:45:10.180 of one's character is borne out by deeds. Being of the Aryan folk means holding ourselves

01:45:17.580 to a high standard. We must live up to the noble reputation of our folk. Our deeds must

01:45:25.880 make the Aesir, our ancestors, and our descendants proud. We strive to always be worthy. The Nine

01:45:35.980 Noble Virtues. The Nine Noble Virtues were codified in 1974 by John Ewell Stoba and John

01:45:47.020 Gibbs Bailey Hosskold. These are some of the core values of Alcetron. Courage, truth, honor,

01:45:57.400 Fidelity. Discipline. Hospitality. Self-reliance. Industriousness. Perseverance.

01:46:10.700 Victory. The tenth noble virtue is victory. Victory is both a goal to achieve and a force

01:46:19.560 to embody. Our focus should always be on achievement. Our eyes always set upon the prize.

01:46:29.220 Every situation presents opportunities. With each opportunity, we can move closer to victory,

01:46:36.680 provided we have the wisdom to recognize and the will to capitalize on the opportunities

01:46:42.680 or log presents. It is our obligation to win victories, both large and small, in all things

01:46:51.080 throughout all days, all the days of our lives. And section four here, I'd like Svon to be with

01:47:07.060 us for because like this is kind of the one that was going to have some of the meatier portions

01:47:13.380 about death in the afterlife and that's something we get a lot of questions on

01:47:21.140 um and he returns

01:47:26.100 no i just i just got to um the uh death and the afterlife section which is kind of

01:47:34.580 something we promised at the beginning of the program right and is going to address

01:47:41.300 some of and you know spawn i hope you've been able to keep track of any statements of clarification

01:47:47.140 on the side about the reincarnation bit so section four beyond the veil we know that life continues

01:47:57.700 after physical death occurs death is a process and a journey towards the next destination

01:48:06.340 the process involves the destruction of the physical and the coalescing of the essential 0.98

01:48:14.020 our ancestors and the icr judge us throughout our lives and their judgment determines what happens 0.98

01:48:22.980 to us when we die. The following is where our folk find themselves after death. Special instances 0.99

01:48:31.140 or circumstances may occur according to the will and power of the Aesir. Halls of the Ancestors.

01:48:42.120 Most of our folk will go to the halls of their ancestors. If deemed worthy, our folk are welcomed

01:48:51.060 into their ancestral halls to celebrate and be reunited with their loved ones as ancestors the

01:48:59.660 folk will look on and help to guide their descendants those who have lived exceptional

01:49:08.600 lives and built mighty hymenia have become or may become alfar and desir ascension

01:49:18.360 What kind of dream is it, said Odin, in which, just before daybreak, I thought I cleared Valhall for coming of slain men?

01:49:31.360 I waked the Einherjar, bade Valkyries rise up and strew the bench, and scour the beakers, wine to carry, as for a king's coming.

01:49:41.540 here to me i expect heroes coming from the world certain great ones so glad is my heart

01:49:51.780 eric smile if the icr judge someone worthy they may elevate them to a higher form of existence

01:50:00.100 This may take many forms, but most often is described as a soul going to the halls of the Aesir, such as the Einherjar feasting in Baal Hall.

01:50:15.280 The principle is that the deceased becomes more than they were as a mortal human, and becomes closer in relationship and in essence to the Aesir.

01:50:25.760 This process can occur at the moment of death or any time after death, according to the will of the Aesir.

01:50:36.500 I need to make a note to Nick, if you will.

01:50:50.200 And I have been keeping track of kind of some of the questions.

01:50:55.000 i will say i think we should include the section about um disillusion before we uh proceed with

01:51:01.400 the entirety of the that subject which you know i think it's pretty obvious why i think a lot of

01:51:08.680 folks are very concerned about the afterlife and what what goes on about that but some of the

01:51:16.360 processes i think are far too uh complicated that they break the express mission of this um

01:51:26.600 this document and so that's why i think we're there is a lot of confusion and why i'm really

01:51:33.080 really glad we're you know going through with this i think the brevity of the document is so good

01:51:39.160 that the benefits outweigh the consequences but one of the consequences is that there are some more

01:51:44.680 intricate things that we could go on and on about but that would then nullify the purpose of the

01:51:53.480 document absolutely so disillusion a hall i saw far from the sun when nostron it stands

01:52:08.680 and the doors face north venom drops through the smoke vent down

01:52:14.680 for around the walls do serpents wind i saw there wading through rivers wild

01:52:21.320 treacherous men and murderers too and workers of ill with the wives of men 0.88

01:52:27.400 their nidhogger malice striker sucked the blood of the slain and the wolf tore men 0.76

01:52:36.280 would you know yet more below spout 38 through 39 if the soul of the deceased is rejected by 0.83

01:52:44.680 their ancestors and rejected by the iser that soul is dissolved and recycled this complete

01:52:54.520 disillusion of the soul occurs when the soul is found without worth and its continued existence

01:53:00.920 is a harmful disgrace to the Aesir and to our folk.

01:53:05.940 This disillusion occurs on Nostrand, Corpse Shore. 0.95

01:53:12.820 Now the sayings of the High One are uttered in the hall for the weal of men, 1.00

01:53:17.860 for the woe of Jotuns. 1.00

01:53:20.400 Hail thou who hast spoken. 1.00

01:53:23.540 Hail thou that knowest.

01:53:26.300 Hail ye that have hearkened.

01:53:27.720 use thou who has learned

01:53:31.300 Habamal

01:53:32.360 164

01:53:34.420 so this is the entirety

01:53:41.180 and we will go back over stuff

01:53:43.540 but going through that

01:53:45.560 I'd like to go ahead and talk

01:53:47.680 about this concept

01:53:49.760 of reincarnation

01:53:51.120 that folks

01:53:52.220 ask questions about

01:53:55.240 so

01:53:57.120 So the initial question, and there's been a lot of clarification over in the chat room.

01:54:08.820 So going back up to it, I'm trying to turn five.

01:54:12.300 Why does the AFA deny reincarnation when you see the concept in the sagas?

01:54:22.500 So it depends on that one.

01:54:25.140 I mean, people have, I don't know where this person's coming from or how heavily invested they are in the concept.

01:54:42.560 But if you believe something for a large part of your life and it's a core value to you, it's easy to come in hot when you feel that it's being challenged or contradicted.

01:54:53.140 I see over in the side kind of a bit of qualification that I feel like maybe we should mention.

01:55:01.380 I'd like to clarify, I do not believe in a unitary or indivisible soul,

01:55:08.320 but I do believe that transmigration of the parts of the soul, including the consciousness.

01:55:13.700 uh there's an and so

01:55:17.460 a couple of things to kind of format this

01:55:22.900 so

01:55:28.780 i've said this a lot of times and i think it's really important

01:55:34.760 when you are reading any holy text

01:55:40.420 it's wrong for you to turn off all of your life up experience experience up to that point

01:55:48.340 all of your logic all of the things that you've come to know as an adult and just completely

01:55:57.880 read something without the context of all of the things that you've learned and what you know about

01:56:04.120 life true things are true whether they're expressed in a holy text or not true things exist

01:56:16.680 the way that we conceptualize that truth and how it fits into our worldview might

01:56:27.080 change conceptually but the basic pieces kind of don't um

01:56:34.120 we are individuals

01:56:39.240 and we all are kind of individual units it's hard because some of the words

01:56:46.380 trip over themselves but we're individual persons

01:56:51.200 we're not like nine people in one person's body that then break apart as like as if each different

01:57:01.720 piece of the soul complex were its own individual there is a fundamental that is us that encompasses

01:57:09.880 all parts of that soul during our time in midgard we know that to be a fundamental truth of our

01:57:19.880 existence we all understand there is a clear line between me and spawn we can shake hands but our

01:57:27.080 hands don't merge into one another there's fun and there's me when we die

01:57:41.800 part of us like us as a thing continues existence

01:57:50.200 what form that existence takes that's part of the great unknown and we have insight into it

01:57:56.440 but we don't know all of it but what we do know is that for example when my grandfather passed

01:58:07.320 he exists somewhere after his passing

01:58:14.040 we communicate with our dead loved ones at our altar we make offerings we interact with them

01:58:21.960 that they full know who we are and accept our offerings and have their

01:58:29.160 integral parts of who they are with them or else they're not them

01:58:36.280 that person exists beyond the veil if you name your child after that person

01:58:44.280 that person is not ripped from beyond the veil and then reborn in your child

01:58:51.940 but poorly wiped of its system to where it sort of remembers a couple of things

01:59:00.040 and has a couple of quirks to it but otherwise doesn't have any of the stuff that made it who

01:59:06.460 was that's just not true if it is true it is certainly not true in the vast majority of cases

01:59:17.980 it just isn't um and there's no expression in our lore of a widely accepted understanding that

01:59:29.500 that that's the case the one-for-one reincarnation like ah this is this person reborn

01:59:38.540 to say that it is nowhere in any of the sagas is not true but if that were true

01:59:46.940 it would be everywhere because why wouldn't it be when you mark your lineage from great kings

01:59:55.340 descended from odin why would the heroes and you know local jarls and political figures

02:00:04.700 not claim to be any of these great heroes of the past reborn but you don't see any of that

02:00:12.860 you don't see in the official chronicling of kings by their by their um their heralds or the

02:00:21.740 scalds under their employ saying that oh this guy is this other even bigger guy reborn

02:00:29.660 certainly you would have that because you have political poems that are absolutely done

02:00:36.140 to elevate a king's standing you see that constantly you see the interplay of that

02:00:41.820 a lot in the ale saga none of those shape out that way because it wasn't a commonly understood thing

02:00:50.600 There were a few very exceptional circumstances where somebody mentions that might happen.

02:00:56.540 And as I put as a caveat in there, I'm not saying that could not possibly happen.

02:01:02.800 Certainly, if our gods decided to make that happen through all of their might as gods, they could do that.

02:01:12.400 but we don't see that as a regular truth that exists and is relevant to most people to lots

02:01:21.940 of people we only see that in these very very rare exceptions and still it's not like a universally

02:01:29.960 agreed upon thing it's a thing that some of that person's kinfolk say ah this is you know so and

02:01:37.220 so reborn they're just like them and they may have a shared memory they may have a thing so

02:01:41.980 So one may ask, you know, well, but what about the idea of naming your children after a deceased loved one so that they can reincarnate within the bloodline?

02:01:56.240 That's also kind of misleading.

02:01:59.320 so what we do think is really important all of the pieces of your soul complex that are necessary

02:02:06.840 for your existence in midgard are not necessary for your existence beyond the veil pieces of those

02:02:15.080 and elements of who you are that are not finite can be shared or bequeathed to your loved ones

02:02:24.200 through the natural connection of our souls that is heightened by the you know you are submitting

02:02:33.400 that request by naming one of your offspring after a deceased ancestor you are reaching out

02:02:41.720 to them in the hopes that some of their skill some of their personality some of their memory

02:02:49.000 some of their character some of their luck their hymenia can be inherited by that offspring

02:03:00.440 that we absolutely do believe is the case

02:03:07.480 for example i named my daughter after my grandfather she is not my grandfather

02:03:16.200 I don't address her as my grandfather it also when you actually try to live it out it becomes

02:03:24.720 it seems silly and I don't do that to make fun it's just that when you try to work out the details

02:03:31.740 on it as one for one it becomes very odd um you know I don't sit my daughter in a chair and then

02:03:39.300 make prayers and offerings to her as a way to communicate with my grandpa no I do that at my

02:03:45.180 altar. And I absolutely believe that he hears them and accepts them. He doesn't exist in two

02:03:52.020 places at once. That's not anything that our lore or our understanding of the traditions of our

02:03:59.280 ancestors indicate to us. So the logic really doesn't bear out when you try to bring it that

02:04:07.100 way. And I know that in us true circles in modern times, reincarnation is talked about a lot as if

02:04:14.300 it's just something that ah the norse believed in that but where show me because i don't see that

02:04:20.780 other than a few very very select issues in the sagas i can think of um maybe three of like

02:04:34.940 fairly minor persons being having that suggestion made in other cultures where that is

02:04:44.220 the belief of that culture we see it very prominent in hinduism you see that very prominently

02:04:53.740 because they do believe that in the understanding of um the buddhists especially as as they talk

02:05:03.180 about um i think that soul i think the soul choosing to come back as a full reincarnation

02:05:10.540 is the bodhisattva you see that as a thing you see the dalai lama being a one-for-one reincarnation

02:05:21.180 situation other cultures that genuinely believe that that is so much of the point of egyptian

02:05:29.180 paganism to where pharaoh is raw and the pharaoh at the same time inhabiting the same body but that

02:05:37.020 reincarnation is there and that's a big part of the pharaoh's legitimacy you don't see that in

02:05:44.460 european paganism you don't very often you certainly don't see that with kings and heroes

02:05:51.580 and people that you would think that would happen with so that's kind of my spiel about it it's fun

02:05:59.100 what do you what do you have to to add to that well i would say um

02:06:08.780 again what you what you have said first and foremost i think it's important

02:06:14.060 with the way that the question was worded at first seemed like it was like the need for us

02:06:21.180 to be rejecting it like it was kind of like an aha moment or you know this is the fallacy that

02:06:26.540 you know this is the linchpin but you know it that's not true and then um it is stated later

02:06:34.700 uh betty bowman also said or bd bowman said um i do not believe in a unitary indivisible soul

02:06:44.380 this is not what i mean by reincarnation however i do believe in the trans migration of the parts

02:06:48.700 of the soul including the consciousness and then that's when i realized like there is no kind of

02:06:53.580 linchpin that's exactly what we're describing um except for the consciousness well and or

02:07:00.940 perhaps the wording is getting lost and that's and i think that's here too and i'm watching

02:07:05.740 over in the side something else that i think is and this isn't uh meant insultingly at all

02:07:18.700 i think that that belief is very much informed by oriental practice

02:07:28.060 yeah so the the final the most recent statement inside is if your grandfather did reincarnate

02:07:35.180 into your daughter obviously your daughter isn't your grandfather this confusion comes from an

02:07:41.820 over attachment to the physical and not the transcendental reality

02:07:49.020 if we shed all those pieces of our soul to unify into

02:08:00.300 the nothingness that is my understanding of how hindus see nirvana

02:08:11.820 That's not what we're trying to do, and it's a fundamental difference.

02:08:16.740 The individual soul, the einherjar, is what our folk do celebrate and always have.

02:08:26.520 The maintaining your selfness, your identity of who you are, beyond the veil, is fundamental to our belief.

02:08:36.220 it is why we venerate and interact with in the gift cycle and communion with our ancestors

02:08:43.620 it's why we worship fallen heroes it's why we make offerings and commune with the dead

02:08:51.900 we can't do that if the dead are one big soup of soul mass you can only do that

02:09:03.380 In any of our understanding and in our tradition, you can only do that with an individual soul that has consciousness and awareness of itself and its relation to others.

02:09:16.600 That's why all of this is built upon the personal relationship built by the gift cycle.

02:09:23.280 It's not an attachment to the physical, but it is definitely an attachment to the identity, to the, yeah, to the identity.

02:09:35.880 And that's a really, that's a very big difference.

02:09:39.820 There's no point of what we are trying to do that comes to a coalescing of all being part of some great nothingness after death.

02:09:54.040 We don't want to do that.

02:09:55.380 A fundamental belief is that life is good.

02:09:58.340 so we're we're not trying to escape the the misery of existence

02:10:06.180 to be liberated into into a unity we want to be individuals beyond the veil that's

02:10:14.420 a big current and one of the the fundamentals to also true to

02:10:19.940 to the cult of the hero, to the cult of the ancestors that is throughout Arian tradition

02:10:30.640 as expressed in the West. And I believe Arian tradition in the East in its earliest forms.

02:10:45.460 you say swan um i was going to speak about the understanding of the circulatory system of the

02:10:54.340 cosmos the cosmological movement of um that which is spiritual i think that one of the things that's

02:11:02.180 really lost is that when we speak about the soul leaving the place of our ancestors it is done

02:11:10.420 through ascension and that ascension being drawn up to the holy gods and being placed there amongst

02:11:18.500 them and then if you're also anointed to the position of alvar or desir but there is a clear

02:11:26.820 disconnect if you go through that processes and let's say the god's will that you are to be put

02:11:33.300 upon the earth in the bloodline of your folk there is a clear disconnect in the consciousness

02:11:39.060 um that might be you know maybe people boil it down to a biological thing you can't have those

02:11:44.900 connections you know because you're a you're a baby and the baby doesn't know those connections

02:11:49.300 but perhaps later on but the cumulative uh gifts and things that are given unto the descendants

02:11:59.300 of the folk are also i think something we should account for we spoke about humming you know and

02:12:05.380 so if the ancestors have the ability to give up and place a pawn in this circulatory system

02:12:14.020 through yggdrasil and this the source of time they are in essence ascending boon whether again

02:12:22.740 like i said hamina or or what have you um these pieces are important there of course again it's

02:12:31.860 it's that relationship between the gods. But Yggdrasil in heaven with the roots and why Nidhogg

02:12:39.300 is trying to destroy that root is because he wants to break the cycle of that which is between

02:12:50.260 the ancestors and the gods and the folk. And again, back to the ancestors. But that process

02:12:58.100 is not again one for one and i think that the major reason is those religions that believe

02:13:05.540 in the one-for-one reincarnation are also those religions that believe in abandoning the ego

02:13:11.700 and i think that that is a direct kind of opposition to ausitru is that the ego or the

02:13:19.140 ek as we call it in the soul is important it's important because it is the receiving end of the

02:13:25.780 call when we honor the ancestors um and that the ancestors give unto us the the hamania there's

02:13:35.060 many pieces and things that they can you know clearly attach to and they do attach to with

02:13:41.380 the anchoring point which is the metagenetics it is important that a man and a woman greatly

02:13:47.700 consider the person that they're getting with and the descendancy that they will create because it

02:13:54.180 is about that connection to your ancestors how they can anchor into you and how they can then

02:14:01.140 give you those boons it's not just your deeds i mean your deeds are very very important but

02:14:08.420 the metagenetics are a visceral connection point that the ancestors can then send up from their 0.84

02:14:16.100 level the place away from time they send it up and then it is decreed by the holy gods how it is

02:14:22.340 placed within existence and that includes the alvar that includes the dc or that includes the

02:14:28.500 souls that remain in the heavenly realm um so i think that's the big drive that is spurning this

02:14:37.540 conversation i love the conversation actually i think it's it's good and i i um you know i i think

02:14:44.980 that really the clarity or perhaps the de-easternizing of a lot of the concepts is the biggest

02:14:53.700 thing we have to do and why it's being done uh why we don't want to abandon the ego um why we

02:15:01.060 don't see you know the world as an illusion and we don't see the the ancestors as uh the faceless

02:15:08.820 soup of you know being um why they you know why the soul can remain sometimes even remaining on

02:15:18.580 earth uh to you know it sometimes in disillusion there's a there's i mean oftentimes that's an

02:15:26.740 issue others other times is that they are decreed to remain they they go through the cycle and then

02:15:32.260 are placed in the barrow mound they're placed in the sacred battlefield they're um you know

02:15:38.420 their memory uh it's and i'm talking about high elevations because we've already talked about

02:15:44.340 where the hammer oftentimes remains where the the that part of the soul from the living to the dead

02:15:51.940 remains here just like the body the body remains here and does not carry on to the to the uh

02:16:00.100 um beyond the veil and that hammer is not to be confused with say a conscious alvar barrow white

02:16:12.520 um you know it's it's i think it's you know and worth noting that we see this again and again and

02:16:23.500 again, in our lore, that the peace is connected, the way that the faith works, the way that the

02:16:30.860 gods decree their power from the top, from the well of weird, and how they place it into the

02:16:38.540 middle, and then it goes to the lower, and then it rises up again through the root. That process

02:16:44.380 is really important. And I want to make sure, you know, people get that.

02:16:53.500 yeah um as a as a point to note is um the questioner my background comes from platonic

02:17:06.060 philosophy and not oriental religions and that may affect how we how we see the question um

02:17:20.140 okay

02:17:23.500 i just saw the uh again the um with the obsession with ego and one's identity comment

02:17:36.220 okay well that is and has always been a very fundamental principle of the astro folk assembly

02:17:43.740 and the heroic understanding of the afterlife and celebrating the hero.

02:17:55.500 And I think that's really important.

02:17:57.000 I also don't...

02:18:00.000 I see a lot of people come to...

02:18:10.000 There's a fundamental kind of disconnect, I think, often between philosophy and religion, and I think they contemplate a lot of similar questions, but in different ways.

02:18:32.700 I don't find Plato's school of philosophy to be pious in a religious sense to Aryan deity, but kind of a reforming of thought.

02:18:49.560 And I think that's something that you see by Plato's time in Greece is a real divergence away from, at least in literary circles, from devotional worship of their gods.

02:19:05.080 You see it really, really differently that way.

02:19:11.400 But, yeah, I don't think that that reflects original Hellenic thought or religion in a in a faithful way.

02:19:19.560 And I think that it's kind of, one of the important things about it is it is a divergence from European paganism.

02:19:29.320 But I hope that, you know, stated where we're at on the idea of reincarnation and, I don't know, identity beyond the veil.

02:19:39.660 I wanted to speak up to, again, the assumption that there is this obsession with the ego and one's identity is kind of like saying you obsess about your hand being a hand or what have you.

02:19:59.500 know the the idea is is that if you're bestowed gifts from your ancestors and you do not view them

02:20:06.460 as perhaps who they were in their lives or the deeds that they committed you are in essence

02:20:14.620 robbing them of their deeds and so that's one of the big reasons why the the ek is so important

02:20:22.700 it's not a worship of the ego as it is an understanding of identity that you are in

02:20:30.880 essence robbing and you see this a lot in two ways people do it with with the holy gods when

02:20:36.880 they explain them they try to you know pigeonhole them into into frames um without any considerations

02:20:44.680 for other things they don't really observe they they're kind of like on a railroad track

02:20:52.000 and then the other is they do this with the ancestors and they do it with the souls in general

02:20:57.240 and it is important that if your fame if your deeds if your efforts to elevate your soul

02:21:08.060 are then completely dissolved when you die.

02:21:14.600 What is the point of that?

02:21:18.300 You want that correlation between your identity

02:21:22.060 and who your consciousness is to your deeds.

02:21:25.580 And then if that's the case on the other aspect,

02:21:28.500 can all who are, say, who've committed meatling acts,

02:21:34.460 are they absolved of that once they pass away?

02:21:38.060 But no, those deeds are deeply connected to who they were, their consciousness, their identity. Those things do not break apart. And that doesn't mean there's an obsession for it, but that there isn't, again, the great soup.

02:21:53.160 um if you commit a needling act as it was it was said and you you know you cross the river and

02:22:00.140 there need all good is you know dissolute like diluting or breaking apart the soul

02:22:06.100 um you know why would that caveat why would that understanding be there

02:22:11.400 if there wasn't a correct connection connection to your ego i.e. the the part of your soul that

02:22:20.580 was ever present during your deeds i find this a lot too uh some circles say you know oh you know

02:22:28.020 when you die you kind of get judged in the in the in the afterlife and and the gods kind of descend

02:22:35.300 down into the realm that every aryan branch kind of really is clear about certain gods not stepping

02:22:44.180 into those underworld elements um for a very very important reasons um but though that even if that

02:22:53.300 was the case the trialing system is connected to the ek is connected to the ego and when you move

02:23:00.340 into and you're honored by those if you're allowed to come in by the ancestors they bring you forth

02:23:08.100 um they're not doing it because it's just a blob part of the big blob now it's because

02:23:15.540 of your deeds and because of your actions so to call that an obsession towards ego i don't think

02:23:21.220 is is correct i don't think that's right we so we are victims of language often on here

02:23:28.900 and when explaining i mean we've seen it within this episode we see a lot

02:23:33.860 words have meaning and over time words carry associations either positive or negatively

02:23:43.220 in the world we currently live in ego as is used in the everyday vernacular

02:23:51.620 is almost a bad word it means that you're like self-obsessed or only worried about your own

02:23:57.380 stuff i notice um that jay over in the chat said being a hero sometimes mean abandoning the ego

02:24:05.140 and sacrificing oneself for the greater cause i don't think that's abandonment of ego at all

02:24:11.860 i think that's what makes it heroic if you conceived of well i am nothing um i'm nobody

02:24:19.380 and i'll just go back into the ultimate oneness of nobodyness then you're not making a sacrifice

02:24:25.780 you're getting you're getting a ticket out of the suffering of this world into you know going back

02:24:33.140 to the formless mass it's when you are very aware of your ego and yourself and all of the loss and

02:24:43.220 the risk and the things that you incur by your action that makes them heroic to still sacrifice

02:24:51.060 for the greater good when you are aware of yourself that's what adds the layer of heroism to

02:24:58.260 that's all we've made egos seem like a like it's a bad thing and it means selfishness it doesn't

02:25:06.740 it means awareness of self your ego means your awareness of how you feel and how you treat others

02:25:15.060 how the reputation you build is either good or it's poor the effect you have on the world

02:25:20.980 around you and your potential to cause good or to cause evil through your actions it's

02:25:29.940 very much taking a responsibility for self because you recognize

02:25:36.580 your individual agency to make those choices

02:25:39.620 yeah there there would be no moral equivalency between say sacrificing your life to save others

02:25:50.380 versus taking your own life and we know that there is a clear differentiation between those two we

02:25:56.340 we know that when someone takes their own life and and the the deficit that it causes by the

02:26:01.580 by the ego the soul that person drawing that hole in the strata around them but we also know

02:26:10.200 in very much the same way if there's a end that's going to culminate by doing these actions and you

02:26:17.280 know it but you still do it for the greater good the heroism that else here ago they just talked

02:26:22.080 about is because the recognition of the value of the self the value of the soul of the ek

02:26:28.380 is still being laid down to the, the, the terms of fate. And that's what makes it different. What

02:26:37.200 makes it ennobled and, and, and, um, you know, that's why it hits us differently. Um, you know,

02:26:45.500 one creates this kind of boon of value and the understanding of that value versus the deficit

02:26:50.860 of that value. And I'd like, you know, um, I, I respect your, uh, beat bone and I respect your

02:26:56.780 your wishes and whatever you want to do in regards to membership or however your thoughts

02:27:02.540 and feelings progress as relates to your religious practice but reading reading your last comment i

02:27:11.180 can't help but think that you know we might fundamentally not be disagreeing as much as you

02:27:20.060 think uh the quote is i'm not a non-dualist that thinks reality is illusory and unlike buddhists

02:27:30.460 i believe that people do indeed exist by ego i mean an exaltation of the person to the detriment

02:27:36.860 of other things such as the community logic etc nowhere in anything that svan or i have spoken of

02:27:46.380 or that's written in the document we're talking about or in the fundamental beliefs the astro

02:27:51.740 focus in me do we support the ego as a detriment to other things or a detriment to the community

02:28:03.740 the ego is the building block of what makes the community and that may sound like such a strange

02:28:12.700 thing but there is a blending of community and individual that is where the magic happens in

02:28:21.900 house of truth an individual recognizing their own agency as an individual and putting that agency to

02:28:34.220 work for the betterment of his brothers and sisters that is the nobility that we talk about

02:28:41.260 that is the ideal selfishness and self-indulgence are anathema to anything that we're talking about

02:28:50.860 and if you are presuming that because you've presumed a couple of things you talked about

02:28:57.980 obsession with ego and you've talked about ego meaning self at the detriment of other things

02:29:07.420 that's not what we mean by that word and your understanding of

02:29:14.060 that core value is really different and i wouldn't want you to make decisions based on

02:29:22.160 a misunderstanding of terms

02:29:25.560 um but no ego

02:29:30.040 is very much yes it's absolutely can be at the center of selfishness absolutely of course

02:29:39.140 but it's also the center of heroism of responsibility and depending on and how of

02:29:47.180 guilt of being feeling terribly bad for things that you have done because you are aware of your

02:29:54.560 agency to help out in the world and to do good things or to harm people through

02:30:01.720 poor actions that you've made. Let's step away from you just a second. I'll be right back.

02:30:07.700 Well, and I wanted to bring up that one of the words that may be causing some of that confusion

02:30:13.260 is in the soul section, when we speak of the ek, that is the correlation of what we might use as

02:30:21.560 ego i mean we could easily use like dasein um it is again the awareness of self the agency of self

02:30:29.320 the value in which what is placed on your honor if you uh concern yourself with the elevation of

02:30:37.160 your honor it is placed upon your eck and that is really important it is the also the skein in which

02:30:46.920 the nornir connect you to the divine it is the the ek is the thing that

02:30:55.080 in essence um is first bestowed with on it is the

02:31:03.320 pre-death container of of much of the soul and when we talk about that we're talking about mini

02:31:10.440 and we're talking about humor which memory and thought are kind of again correlated in the

02:31:17.160 the ego or the ek the das ein of the self and that those parts and components um when we

02:31:29.400 pass you know it carries that currency that we spoke of that value the value of making your

02:31:37.640 ancestors proud it's the value in which even after you return to the place of death that

02:31:47.800 you can also be ascended into up the root into the heavenly realm and adjudicated into positions

02:31:57.000 that substantiate order in the cosmos and i think that's another thing that's kind of lost on folks

02:32:04.440 as to why perhaps you know the yggdrasil is in the in the top it is the center of all things

02:32:11.160 no matter what level you may you know conceive but yggdrasil is the in the top and the roots are

02:32:18.440 few know where they flow they the the the memory that flows the the actions that happen

02:32:24.280 that that goes into the land of dissolvement or resistance and um you know dissipation

02:32:30.920 that's where that memory flows in mimir as well but in vergelmer there is of course the torrentialness

02:32:38.280 and i think that snorri did definitely you know paint a lot of some of his christian concepts

02:32:45.160 there but nidogar is trying to break that root because it breaks that uh very key component

02:32:53.880 which is the soul the soul complex the pieces they go up and they are then adjudicated by the gods

02:33:02.760 to fill in the places that they deem it that's how alvar become alvar that's how

02:33:10.120 these are become these there it's because after that death the the the honoring that

02:33:17.160 the living have for that man or that woman um greatly influences that that placement and then

02:33:24.760 the alpha are again cycled through the ds are cycled through and they're placed just kind of

02:33:30.040 again uh guardian angel or um you know a guardian of a land or an area or what have you and they

02:33:38.600 have that elevated position and then you know the souls continue on it's so important the other

02:33:44.920 thing is um you know like when we've uh spoken about sumble and the braga full the braga full is

02:33:52.920 often misconceived just to be simply just the bragging cup but really what that is is the the

02:34:00.680 value and the currency of your deeds that you have for your community a lot of folks um you know it's

02:34:08.600 it's not simply bragging about say i don't know the the money you have or the the car you have

02:34:14.920 No, it's about perhaps the, um, the obstacles that have been in your way and that you have

02:34:21.520 achieved past them. And what that purpose is, is not only to celebrate what you have done,

02:34:27.320 but also to encourage other folk to attack the obstacles they have. And so I, I wanted to address

02:34:34.420 that too, because I don't want that to be confused though. It does have root to bragging.

02:34:38.500 The bragging is about that, again, spiritual currency that we build, that hominia that we build. 0.94

02:34:47.460 Even that is another word that has been, Christianity has had a profoundly negative effect on our folk soul over time. 0.87

02:34:59.900 One of the fundamental elements of Christianity is taking worth and value from the human and conceiving of humanity as all bad, literally living under a death sentence that was redeemed by the blood of Christ. 0.70

02:35:27.900 You are saved from this death sentence that Yahweh imposed upon you by faith alone, not by works that none might boast.

02:35:44.220 so any concept of individual pride is anathema and it took a long time and in southern in the

02:35:52.220 subtle steps but that has affected a lot of the way that this conversation is even even that even

02:36:00.700 the words used in it and if i can you know harken back to to plato because you mentioned that was

02:36:07.980 your background when he would do his lectures on stuff defining terms at the beginning was a really

02:36:16.700 important part of it and it's why that's an important part of modern debate

02:36:23.500 is that makes a big difference words make a really big difference

02:36:28.300 so bragging and ego and all of these things have a really bad connotation no speaking pridefully

02:36:35.740 about something a service that you've done or something you've accomplished wasn't just about

02:36:41.420 like hey everybody you know celebrate me i'm so self-obsessed it was a way of stating your worth

02:36:51.180 when you were in a worth-based society it is justifying your existence one of the fundamental

02:36:57.500 things that i have people do um i actually got this from the nine doors of midgard by edward

02:37:04.940 thorson as a thing is to make a comprehensive list of your good qualities and your bad qualities and

02:37:13.580 consult that all the time being hyper aware of your strengths and weaknesses puts you in a position

02:37:21.500 to work on those and make those better being in a spot where you have to justify your worth and

02:37:28.620 And make compelling case for you being a good person puts a lot of stuff in very valuable perspective to help for you to be better and to do bigger and better things.

02:37:43.280 and it's really important but it doesn't have value without um

02:37:51.200 without recognition of yourself as a individual noble entity that makes choices

02:37:59.680 your individuality and your identity as a person is what puts that responsibility

02:38:04.480 upon you in that awareness um svan has disappeared into the ether um but in the meantime

02:38:17.520 question lion of apollo question how does the horse frayfaxi relate to the harvest rituals

02:38:25.520 seen historically at the time of the eighth moon slash august i'm back sorry how does

02:38:35.640 and this is a this is a fine question how does the story of the horse fray faxie have anything

02:38:45.960 to do with august harvest festival well it's actually quite minimal um the reality of it is

02:38:56.000 is that the horse fray faxie um was named such because of the coloring of the mane being a wheat

02:39:04.200 color and the correlation that wheat being called the hair of fray um and again we have a lot of um

02:39:12.800 connections with this say through like especially with the anglo-saxons and the john barley corn

02:39:18.980 traditions um but that that uh nyal the the govia fray named the horse such because

02:39:29.000 the mane was the color of wheat and so transferring that um fray faxee um

02:39:38.500 the horse there is uh there's interesting there's not correlations i would say to the holy tide

02:39:46.700 um it's a it's a far more interesting story about um the weird that we weave um and what comes of

02:39:58.320 that and the real connection again is if you were to have a horse and you were gonna you know

02:40:06.920 uh or a an animal and what have you and they have a feature that reminds you of

02:40:12.800 something else and you name it in relation to that reference it is the wheat colored hair of

02:40:21.220 the horse he was also a govi of who held full trui or full trough true frere and that caused

02:40:30.300 a ripple effect that was fairly great the horse that we actually um talk about

02:40:37.180 um is the virility of and the vehicle of lord frere but it's a unique vehicle because again

02:40:45.180 it's it's cyclical um you know ghoulin bursty um has different connotations to light and to wealth

02:40:55.340 but but the horse bloody hooves is the virility and the power of lord fray that is bestowed upon

02:41:05.260 us and that we attempt to encapsulate a small piece of in order to last us till the next time

02:41:12.540 when he returns with and and with the coming of the opening of the gates and with him coming to

02:41:18.460 the earth and reuniting with his love um or gather so the naming behind it i think was lost and

02:41:31.820 people core like when they read the saga they're like this has nothing to do with like a harvest or

02:41:36.460 or what have you um the other thing is is that moving some of the titling of the holy tides

02:41:42.300 the um common one that was used in the anglo-saxons was loaf mass and the only reason why

02:41:50.220 moving away from that was because there was a time in which the harvest festivals

02:41:57.020 and the christian uh mass of that time were kind of integrated they utilized the

02:42:04.220 the native faith, the true faith of the folk

02:42:10.680 to overlay their own.

02:42:12.440 So you'll find that that's why, for instance,

02:42:15.560 with Volsbergenach, Volsbergenach, you know,

02:42:18.500 we moved away and went more towards Hexenacht

02:42:21.720 or Nornirnacht, which is Witches' Night.

02:42:26.220 And then we also focused more on Freifaxi

02:42:31.220 as opposed to loaf mass or llamas if you want to get with the um the gaulish um uh term i believe

02:42:39.780 it's llamas and um and the usage that the like uh the modern wiccans did so it was kind of more or

02:42:46.820 less like there's a lot of people who know this there's a lot of people that understand it it

02:42:51.140 does give a good separation away from christianity and the correlation of the horse's hair looked

02:42:57.300 like wheat it was the color of wheat that's fray faxy that's the hair of lord fray um that's the

02:43:04.580 correlation that's the connection but when you look at the saga there's no like that's not actually

02:43:11.060 the meat and potatoes of that saga do not help facilitate the naming of of the holy tide um

02:43:17.940 and i i i find it funny but i'm it's a great question and it's really important that we

02:43:22.980 point that out um here's the thing there's no

02:43:31.620 it's exactly that nobody's trying to pull a fast one um but

02:43:38.340 in the story concept is the guy was a phrase a phraseman and the harvest festival is a very

02:43:48.660 appropriate time to honor lord frayer and that's what we do during that the other thing is

02:43:57.220 we're doing something every month so sometimes we go with some stuff

02:44:03.060 it's been what's traditionally been practiced and one of the

02:44:08.100 I'm trying to remember whether it was at Freyfaxi or not it was in the late summer on a trip

02:44:22.420 I went to Denmark we did a bloat to Frey and it was really the imagery was really beautiful

02:44:31.260 We did a bloat to Freyer and the old Goethe who was there, he, you know, he was one of their elders in their community, one of their kind of founding generation of modern Ausitru in Denmark.

02:44:52.480 and he had left uh he left the hospital against advice he just had a surgery but he wanted to be

02:45:01.200 there to do bloat for us and specifically to do bloat for our founder steve mcnellen who was there

02:45:09.180 with me and um we were in this uh there's a stone circle surrounding a dolman or a piled up

02:45:20.940 um you know stone chamber and we did this uh this frame load there and

02:45:28.060 while it was going and we're just taking it all in i believe while he was pouring the mead um

02:45:38.880 looked over to i don't know what direction i was at the time but i looked over towards my left

02:45:46.400 and in the distance and we were surrounded on all sides by these flowing grain fields

02:45:54.400 i mean for the point of the story i want to say they're wheat fields but i don't know my

02:46:00.100 my grains that well but yeah just flowing because you could see the wind ripple off

02:46:05.820 them these flowing sea of grain and just so have it or you know it just so happened that

02:46:13.580 Um, right within my sight there, this, uh, you know, farmer had his stable of, of a couple

02:46:22.800 of horses and the horses were neighing and dancing in the wind with the wheat.

02:46:28.600 And it was a really, uh, it was a really special, uh, special moment, but no, it's cool.

02:46:37.960 And it's us not naming something after the Christian celebration of it.

02:46:42.620 It's us celebrating the end of summer, the beginning of the harvest, and giving bloat and worship to our God of abundant crops and fertility.

02:46:56.280 And so that's what we're doing, just like we celebrate Lord Frey at the beginning of planting season and with the charming of the plow.

02:47:05.900 We celebrate him in the reaping as well.

02:47:08.580 I don't want to say like all of our ancestors did this and and we should do it too

02:47:19.460 at the same time I am quite certain that it was remarked as being a thing for at least

02:47:27.900 a certain time and it was particularly focused in Iceland that is a small amount of the entirety

02:47:34.760 of our ancestors so that's another thing is when we facilitate structuring things we try to take

02:47:42.680 consideration and logic throughout the entirety of it but i remember a really cool conversation

02:47:48.440 that was talked about at least at some point in iceland at the end of the summer they would have

02:47:54.920 horse fights and they would choose the champion the champion would be studded out and then the

02:48:02.760 champion horse would be sacrificed to lord frere or to the gods and that the meat was then shared

02:48:09.240 with the folk gathered um again the uh the entirety of this like this was kind of this

02:48:20.040 was told to me by um an icelander named jerman gringy but looking through trying to find it

02:48:28.760 say specifically in our religious lore i can't find it it sounds much more like a

02:48:36.680 a localized thing that was spoken about or understood about in iceland but it it is again

02:48:44.120 worth noting that that imagery that that ceremony even though it wasn't done by others it seems to

02:48:50.120 transfer and it's starting to re-establish itself again in the the souls and the minds of the folk

02:48:56.360 in relation to that holy tide the um cyclical nature of the vehicle of the prince of the gods

02:49:03.160 lord or the holy frere and it's uh leaving of its flesh or the leaving of its its virility

02:49:11.480 into the world uh the same as the last bale of hay kind of given to john barley corn and anybody

02:49:19.480 who's never looked into that it's really cool to look into um the correlations between um

02:49:26.680 john barleycorn as uh kind of an post-christian um you know uh worship to lord frank it's really

02:49:37.560 really cool um and it was kind of done to to hide um the ever watchful eye of of you know the people

02:49:45.400 in in your society that had kind of taken fully to the backwards uh religion or you know took to

02:49:52.120 the to the power of it and they they wanted to call people out for stuff so they started hiding 0.88

02:49:56.840 things and then other things they couldn't hide so they integrated loaf mass was one of them

02:50:02.360 and uh generally when you look up loaf mass they'll talk about how the bread loaves

02:50:07.080 were either sold in the churches or given out during mass at the churches and

02:50:12.680 And they, you know, some will give a nod towards the previous holy tides of the folk.

02:50:20.840 And it was generally, it could be different from town to town.

02:50:23.740 It could be different from country to country.

02:50:26.220 That's why it's so hard for us to just kind of point at something unilateral.

02:50:32.020 Or, you know, like I said, it was practiced in Iceland.

02:50:35.660 Doesn't mean that the Norwegians did it.

02:50:37.780 Doesn't mean that the Swedes did it.

02:50:39.360 Or the Danes.

02:50:40.180 Or the Germans.

02:50:41.420 Or the Frisians.

02:50:42.260 and what have you so it's really important when somebody says this is how our ancestors did it

02:50:48.740 and they're talking about the icelanders in this century did it and that might not be the entirety

02:50:58.200 of the of all of our ancestors of um you know europe um but you see a lot of that kind of

02:51:05.860 adherence um that there was some sort of like completely correlated connected holidays and

02:51:16.180 really it is about kind of sifting through what has survived and bringing about an understanding

02:51:23.500 we know that our ancestors celebrated at this time what shall we call it and what does it even

02:51:29.920 you know what does it look like well let's look at what we already do in celebration of the

02:51:35.500 harvest, which harvest festivals still exist even in Christian America. And then we expound on some

02:51:43.340 of the knowledge we know outside of that and the roots in which it comes from. And that's what

02:51:47.580 truly formulated a lot of Ausatru's religious holitides. There wasn't just like a, you know,

02:51:54.780 make it up. You know, there's also, again, cross-referencing to other traditions and looking

02:52:01.740 at that as well but um there's a lot to it but yeah if anybody ever tells you that um

02:52:08.780 like the saga is connected to the name they're being dishonest

02:52:12.780 um that is not the case it's that the name referenced wheat and that's the connection

02:52:22.940 so

02:52:23.180 i see a ton of great questions coming in from uh finwraith and wolf throne i'm like these are

02:52:34.940 these are some would you like to see the other arian religious traditions one day be resurrected

02:52:41.980 in a folkish pan-arian way currently we have also true and sanatana dharma but hellenism could

02:52:50.060 obviously or absolutely be reconstructed with how much information and more we have on it

02:52:56.700 and it's interesting to me that there never have been a pan-arian folkish hellenic church

02:53:05.660 don't get me wrong i'm not saying house true isn't good enough it absolutely is

02:53:10.220 but it would be nice to have all our branches um that we lost come back you know what i mean

02:53:20.060 Yes, in concept. And then I try to play it out in my head.

02:53:28.980 I don't.

02:53:30.520 if our gods will that to happen and would like to see that sort of diversity in their worship

02:53:46.860 then by all means um i am absolutely for it if that's what they would like

02:53:53.760 I don't see an indication or a logical reason to believe that's the case.

02:54:05.340 We don't have, so when we look at, and this is just me logicking, you asked kind of my opinion on it.

02:54:14.040 um we often view stuff anachronistically and we celebrate relics of old stuff

02:54:27.480 because it's cool and most of us really like history

02:54:31.020 but like stone fences in Ireland are really romantic and cool and we celebrate these old

02:54:41.080 ruins no great grandpa stopped taking care of his farm we don't have that same sense when you drive

02:54:50.200 by you know a corrugated steel farm farm building that's rotting and rusted in

02:54:58.600 you know middle america where grandpa stopped taking care of his farm

02:55:03.960 but we do in that context because we reserve it for a different time in a different place

02:55:08.200 So how did our Aryan faith take all of the different multiplicity of shapes that it took?

02:55:18.640 Our people migrated and conquered and wandered and spread into very isolated locations where communication was hard and the connections got lost to time and the individual expressions of area of religion developed very differently.

02:55:43.600 we don't live in that time anymore and i don't think that

02:55:49.360 that level of difference is relevant to the current state of our ability to communicate

02:56:01.020 with one another we are a people and now we are people who is reconnected so we've wandered

02:56:08.680 across the surface of the earth we've gone all the way around until we've met ourselves

02:56:15.080 and so we're reintegrating our faith we're re-bringing it back to a unified faith

02:56:24.360 which doesn't have to mean squashing naturally occurring um cultural diversity in different

02:56:34.520 arian areas but i don't see that happening it's coalescing in in one way that's very effective

02:56:43.880 and i see the blessings of the isera in that way i don't see that occurring

02:56:48.920 as you mentioned i don't see that in these other in these other situations um

02:56:54.760 i don't see this great resurgence i don't even you know i don't see it in sanata the dharma either

02:57:06.820 i think it's a relatively small movement i see white people trying to find the answers

02:57:16.600 in exotic oriental religion and i've seen that for a long time i mean we've all historically

02:57:23.160 seen that for, you know, century and a half now or thereabouts. But what I do see is authentically

02:57:32.100 ours is also true. And that's what's being successful. And I don't fault you for asking

02:57:38.100 the question. I think it's a really good question. But I wonder if our people,

02:57:44.760 some of this I do think harkens back to the worrying about obsession with ego. What I think

02:57:52.480 people really do a lot we get obsessed with being individualistic and nobody wants to conform so

02:57:59.440 everybody wants to create their own new thing we're always on the lookout for well what other

02:58:05.120 things could happen or what about if we did something different instead of hey guys how

02:58:10.160 about we focus on what we are doing how about we focus on what is working and just put in the hard

02:58:15.280 work to make the thing that's already working be successful instead of every individual person

02:58:21.280 going out and starting their own new thing from scratch and that is what i think is very very

02:58:28.400 important so i mean if our gods will that these other expressions of our faith pop up these other

02:58:36.560 places then by all means absolutely but no i'd rather all that energy went into growing and

02:58:44.480 building also true and building also truths building it back up to a prominence to where

02:58:52.800 it's the religion of our folk i would much rather see that in a dispersion of that energy let's say

02:59:04.720 you are muted uh one of the things that you said that last part is one thing that popped in my

02:59:12.480 head almost immediately um i don't think it could happen simply because that correlation between

02:59:23.120 wanting uh in the ego to create or to maintain um and so organizing is you know so like getting

02:59:33.120 all of the branches of the arian folk to to come together and kind of agree on um like you know

02:59:42.160 pan arian names of the gods and and and all of that um i don't know i just that's lofty but i

02:59:50.320 just don't see it because of a couple of reasons one on the negative side ego on the positive side

02:59:56.240 there is a lot of history in certain branches of the arian folk that go they run deep including

03:00:02.720 ours so doing that would relinquish again a slight ethnic connection whether it's just language

03:00:11.520 to the gods uh or you know of the gods um and vice versa for everyone else um the other thing

03:00:18.080 i noticed too is i like especially in america there are a lot of folks who are like a you know

03:00:26.480 a gaelic or gallic admixture with germanic um even my father um you know looking at the genetic tests

03:00:35.520 uh angalo-saxon and irish um kind of admixture on that side um and i find a lot of people that

03:00:44.480 come in they have this kind of confliction that they should be honoring the gaulish gods

03:00:53.520 or celtic gods um and they feel like they're kind of falling back or backsliding when they

03:00:59.920 honor the the germanic the teutonic um and then this of course purity spirals some germanic folks

03:01:07.040 are like no no we've got to say their names in you know mainland continental german or we got

03:01:15.360 to do the proto-indo-european hypothesized original names like like you know like woldanaz and um

03:01:24.400 therisas and things like that the that stuff fragments and what i think else here is saying

03:01:30.720 is no we have a unified language we all speak english english and we know um of the correlation

03:01:39.200 of the history of the icier or the essen if you want to talk about it from the um german and

03:01:44.880 anglo-saxon we know this but it all really zeniths into the the nordic seed that was kept

03:01:54.080 and then disseminated after many many generations so why break that but just simply continue it on

03:02:03.200 understand the influences and and the elevations and the levels of which our ancestors you know

03:02:09.920 dealt with a lot of that and so also right though right action at the right time and learning how to

03:02:17.680 move within the current of of orlaw and the playing out of right action and the development of

03:02:31.120 recognizing what the gods want and what they don't we don't always get that perfect i promise you

03:02:37.680 uh nobody on your screen now or in the house true focus and we always does everything the way that

03:02:47.180 our gods would want us to i wish that we did i can promise you that the two people talking to you now

03:02:54.740 try really hard to but we are not delusional and do not believe that we are you know perfect or

03:03:05.460 close to it um but we want to be and uh one of those things is recognizing

03:03:16.660 what the gods want over you having a cool idea and we run into it um this may seem not connected but

03:03:26.820 doing it anyway so here's the thing that i run in when we um when we deal with folks that are

03:03:36.820 interested in and this isn't a slam at anybody i think we all maybe start from this place

03:03:44.100 but when we're training new gothar

03:03:47.780 and you know when i first got involved everybody that was the day one cool how do i be a ghost

03:03:55.220 like never read anything don't know anything about astra i've been asked you since

03:03:59.780 since tuesday cool how do i become a go

03:04:04.580 i'm lying to you if i didn't say or at least think to say that exact same thing

03:04:10.900 i don't fault any of that at all

03:04:15.780 after having been a go-fi for 12 years now

03:04:22.100 I did not have any idea all of where that would lead or what that means until you're in that spot

03:04:36.200 so I say that to say this when people start talking about rituals it used to be a really

03:04:43.760 big thing for people to write their rituals and it's very easy for Agothi or Agithia when

03:04:51.320 are first starting out to spend all of their time on a ritual focusing on theatrics what cool thing

03:04:59.480 can i do what um kind of show can i put it almost like a ritual drama but with the focus on like

03:05:07.560 what of my own pizzazz can i put on this stuff to make it funky like what can i do to make this

03:05:14.760 you know yeah what can i do to make this my cool performance that i'm doing and honestly until you

03:05:25.400 know better until you learn those lessons i don't i don't fault that as a place to start

03:05:31.640 i do fall it as a place to stay but not as a place to start what you learn though is

03:05:38.200 bloat isn't about you expressing yourself it's about you facilitating a connection between our

03:05:50.440 gods and our folk it's about you pleasing the gods not about you entertaining the folk with

03:06:03.160 your own artistry now yes your bloat is more powerful if you can find a way to

03:06:13.160 make it yours and express to do what you're doing more authentically and with a greater

03:06:20.920 part of yourself involved in it but it's not about that if it makes us if it makes a difference 0.98

03:06:29.480 like yeah it made cool if let's wipe the slate clean every 10 years and redo arian religion we

03:06:36.840 can all try to recreate all the names in something that we all agree on instead of what somebody else

03:06:43.400 did you know we can do it my way and then you know then we can do it this guy's way

03:06:51.480 i'm not interested in doing religion my way i want to do religion

03:06:55.560 Odin's way. I want to do religion

03:06:59.080 Thor's way. I want to do religion the way the 0.99

03:07:02.580 Aesir want us to do. 1.00

03:07:07.820 If they wanted to have us

03:07:10.740 do it by revealing themselves to us as the Olympians

03:07:14.520 and having us do it that way, then that'd be what

03:07:18.680 I'm doing right now. But it wasn't.

03:07:21.660 So the way that it was initiated in really interesting fashion was in the Norse conception with the Norse names and the Norse understanding.

03:07:39.540 That's what has been consistently blessed throughout our existence.

03:07:46.120 I mentioned earlier in this program, from 1968 until now, that is a relationship that has been growing.

03:07:54.400 I know we have people on here in their 60s, 70s, and 80s that don't think that sounds like a very long time.

03:08:01.040 It doesn't, but it's longer than most of these other things that we bring up, and it's been consistent.

03:08:07.740 it has consistently been involved in through and woven itself through one man's life

03:08:17.340 and still does to this day um our founder was you know at my table this last weekend

03:08:25.200 celebrating with me and being very involved in what we're doing since 1968

03:08:32.700 In January, we will have been doing this for 30 years, just as the Asa True Folk Assembly,

03:08:41.220 the most recent iteration of it.

03:08:48.640 The attention focus on doing this and making this the best it can be is such a more fruitful

03:08:55.520 exercise than always trying to put your own, you know, as they say on like the Food Network,

03:09:01.480 your whimsical take on hamburgers no i just want a hamburger i don't want the new guy to like come

03:09:08.280 up with some different hamburger i want bacon and cheese and a hamburger on a bun and it's awesome

03:09:15.720 i don't it's not that other things aren't cool too but you don't want to lose your fundamentals

03:09:22.360 by trying to do something else i always have to you know talk to people because they'll come in

03:09:29.880 and they'll be so just on fire to want to create and do and there's so many ways within what we

03:09:38.120 are doing to utilize your creativity towards the betterment of everything we do if you heard what

03:09:45.560 we talked about about ego and stuff a little bit ago i'm not faulting anybody's ambition

03:09:50.760 or want to build their own fame do that within the context of ousa truth there's so much to

03:09:57.400 be accomplished we live in a great time to do that as well so i'd much rather see that happen than

03:10:03.480 you know a disillusion of that energy into you know myriad different directions all of which

03:10:09.080 could have been cool but weren't this is cool let's do this um does the a go ahead go ahead

03:10:18.200 i was going to say uh there was a question from way earlier and i don't know if we addressed it

03:10:23.560 and it was and then uh i think wolf throne just mentioned it again like did you guys answer that

03:10:29.480 or did i miss it no it hasn't come up in the list yet i don't believe it's way at the beginning

03:10:35.560 no it was way early um 9 15 the scotty question yeah yeah we're answering question right now from um

03:10:44.920 644 oh but i mean that'd be 9 44 your time i guess right so yeah i'm not seeing it in my list

03:11:04.040 if we did miss miss it um i don't think that we did nick can sort it out in the meantime

03:11:12.360 you did you missed it no i got it right here too no no yeah i'm looking at it right now and i see

03:11:21.160 exactly where i missed it i sure did one from the top no i see it thank you for reminding me and i

03:11:26.520 apologize for skipping it i'm glad that you saw that spawn wasn't anything intentional so question

03:11:32.520 have either of you built a relationship with scotty i'm eyeballing this scotty statue online

03:11:39.080 and i'm undecided on whether i want to buy it and put it on my altar knowing she's a yogin

03:11:44.840 uh is it spiritually safe for me to do that swan go for it um and we kind of emphasize this really

03:11:53.160 heavily last vns episode remember the classifications that we kind of created that high

03:11:59.960 That hierarchy is about observation, and it is the aus, the ausenir, the ausvenir, and the himenverder.

03:12:10.420 These four things, and skadi would fall in the ausvenir, the beloved ones, the ones that join with the gods through marriage or child, that produce forth other godly forms.

03:12:26.780 Um, and so the, the, the usage of the word, they are Jotun, uh, seems to fall away when we correlate with why they're with the gods.

03:12:39.640 Um, and it's important to differentiate that.

03:12:44.120 Um, the Ausfineer are, again, the, the Aus and the Ausfineer are listed and very finite.

03:12:51.060 The Ausvenir fill a gap and have an understanding that, you know, if you have a personal relationship with Idun, if you have a personal relationship with Sif, if you have a personal relationship with Skadi, the Ausvenir are where they are at, and they are part of the gods.

03:13:11.020 they've aligned themselves with the gods of cosmic order. I have, I don't have a personal

03:13:18.320 kind of overtly gifting cycle and relationship with Lady Skadi. I will say that I painted her

03:13:29.380 or an image of her at Njordshof, especially because of the importance of that story. And I

03:13:37.320 think even the deeper importance of the story is, again, the creation of rivers. Behind her in

03:13:43.700 Mjortzhoff, you can see a land massing glacier that's moving to the ocean. And I think that that

03:13:52.180 has a deeper and a naturalistic point as well. But she is one of the Ostevenir. And I don't think 0.98

03:14:03.340 that it is problematic um perfect example would be um if somebody had on their altar say a godstead

03:14:15.020 or a an idol um to say volander or whalen that is where that kind of that connection

03:14:26.540 his alignment to the gods allows him that agency that positioning so um i wouldn't say that it is

03:14:35.180 wrong and i wouldn't again say that call you know her being a jotun is not is also you know misleading

03:14:44.140 lord odin's mother in the stories and you know her uncle or his uncle are yachtins um and it

03:14:53.020 you know it is it's i think that we get caught up on that a lot and where we you know a lot of

03:14:59.340 people and we've hit this numerous times jotens are not a different race from the icier they are

03:15:05.740 unified they're just or they are unified in uh many ways but the thing that separates them is

03:15:13.820 of course their lineage back to buri um that the jotens do not have but when they integrate in

03:15:20.940 they through marriage uh god form production or you know birthing of children if you will um they

03:15:29.460 become part of the oust veneer just like seaf just like eden and so my answer to that is no i don't

03:15:37.240 think you would um have any issues with that i would just say make sure it is certainly with a

03:15:42.280 connection, um, that you, you, you see viable. I, I, you know, I, I was trying to think of like

03:15:51.000 people in the mountains who give honors to New York, but New York is also the Lord of waters

03:15:56.160 and the Lord of the river. It's, it's however you see it, that connection or just wanting to

03:16:00.600 build that relationship. Totally fine. But outside of those four, I would not encourage a perfect

03:16:09.660 example of this is ayer and raun ayer and raun are aligned to the gods but they are not a part

03:16:18.780 of the gods and there is an element there that i i do not believe the gods or they kind of clearly

03:16:26.860 state it that there's an agency there that is not always beneficial to the folk and to the land

03:16:36.140 ayer and round or oftentimes people in i'm just saying it because english speakers sometimes say

03:16:43.020 eager and ran um they are aligned through truce but not through marriage not through

03:16:52.620 uh child beginning but some people have had personal experiences where they felt

03:16:57.660 ire needed to be honored and so you will find certain outliers but again aus or gods

03:17:06.940 our senior goddesses aust venir the beloved ones and him in verder the heavenly wardens

03:17:15.340 those are the the four best classifications to kind of

03:17:20.380 understand where we're coming from and it's mentioned in the true logo no i don't think

03:17:25.420 you're putting yourself in danger or some kind of gross infraction but i also say have a better

03:17:33.420 reason than you found a statue that looks cool um and i say that looks

03:17:43.660 yo dog this statue's cool looking i need this is one way of expressing something that also

03:17:50.460 could be expressed man i was very inspired by this statue that i saw it was caused me to look

03:17:56.540 more into it and this turns out to be one of our goddesses and and it just it struck a chord so

03:18:05.740 i'm not cheapening what you're saying but just make sure that there is a clear intention behind

03:18:10.060 why you want to do that and that would be you know what i would suggest i do not and it's

03:18:16.860 it's strange because that was kind of a common a more common thing where i came into australia

03:18:24.060 i was in alaska and with winter being so prominently represented there scabby was a

03:18:33.420 even just secularly you know at the ski resort or whatever there'd be an uler kind of deal and a

03:18:40.780 scotty deal and that was never i never felt that connectivity there with scotty um but yeah i

03:18:52.380 wouldn't i don't i don't think there's any any great problem or any great deviance and uh yeah

03:18:58.620 she'd be kind of outside of the icr but within the circle of people that they have treated with

03:19:05.020 and bonded themselves through marriage and yeah um eric the red light does the afa have any

03:19:14.860 personal trainers as members we've got enough members now that i'm gonna say yes and i think

03:19:19.740 that i'm right can i tell you one that is no but i'm certain that we probably do and if it hedges

03:19:28.300 my bets for like six months to a year i did personal training so i'll call that good

03:19:36.140 but no i think that surely we do we also have some people who are competitive athletes in

03:19:43.340 different um different sports and different disciplines and some people that are amazingly

03:19:50.220 fit in different ways too so we do have a wealth of knowledge there and i'm certain that we have

03:19:55.260 personal trainers in our membership i just couldn't name them for you right now um since

03:20:02.460 you guys are going through the entire poetic edda on vns will you do this the entire pros

03:20:08.060 edda after yes absolutely we will he's looking into that today i think um one thing to consider

03:20:16.940 about that is like in the scout scalper mall there will be a lot of references to the lore

03:20:23.180 that we covered and there'll be mechanics built around things that not everyone will i guess

03:20:30.380 appreciate perhaps is you know the but the the really good stuff is the lore linking but when

03:20:37.980 we talk about like poetic the regular listeners of victory never sleeps will appreciate it because

03:20:44.460 we will have laid the foundations but yeah it's and the big thing too is um

03:20:53.180 how much the the guild beginning is a cornerstone in much of our framework of uh

03:21:05.100 the the the the gods the the hierarchy that we just spoke of of the four you know sections that

03:21:12.140 that a lot of that comes from the guild beginning the reason why we honor frigg and freya and the

03:21:18.620 maidens of fensaler that comes from why uh the cosmological outlook of of the the world is built

03:21:26.460 is it's all from the guild beginning so yeah we definitely have to cover that so this is a an

03:21:34.060 interesting question is ask and emblem based on adam and eve or is adam and eve based on asking

03:21:42.620 embla no next question no so um no so the it's funny how you put that because

03:21:59.580 it's an a and an e for the first created people i get why that's very very tempting

03:22:08.860 but no as far as i can tell no in either situation um one is literally the ash tree

03:22:20.840 and the elm tree the other is and they are you know

03:22:28.740 norse words from a indo-european root whereas adam and eve are hebrew words from hebrew

03:22:38.220 i believe adam means like the red earth and eve means breath like the breath of life

03:22:50.160 um

03:22:51.640 i see i i cannot take anything away from the question because it is

03:22:59.760 very conspicuous but I don't see any linguistic connection or any you know

03:23:08.460 point of convergence there and in the story especially with asking him love

03:23:14.940 being driftwood basically being types of types of tree that were found on a

03:23:23.820 a beach it fits the story perfectly without it seeming like any kind of uh addition or a you

03:23:35.160 know adopting of something different or something foreign um but no as far as I can tell there's not

03:23:43.200 a connection but I absolutely see what you see and I understand why you would ask the question

03:23:48.000 um swan do you have anything to add on that um yeah snorty is the convergence point

03:23:56.220 if the logic that i'm looking at is if snorty was like i want to name the two first folk um

03:24:08.100 and he wants to specifically name them in correlation to adam and eve so he

03:24:14.640 he picks out ash and embla because of course they are trees. They're unrooted and unfaded

03:24:22.200 and floating in the water. But that's, again, that's almost like digging too deep. I see a lot

03:24:31.700 of, I think, you know, like consistency issues that Snorty brings. And I think that those are

03:24:39.880 kind of honest mistakes this one would be again more like a malicious um you know mechanical sense

03:24:48.520 and i see a lot of people again voice this on snorty for reasons that aren't really particularly

03:24:55.000 good one of the craziest ones i ever heard of and this is just a side note is that um the reason why

03:25:01.020 the roots reach to each of the realms is because the tree is on its side and he wanted to show

03:25:07.480 people that this was a symbolic sense that the the faith of the of your ancestors was gone and

03:25:14.200 i really don't think that was the case at all um and so when we foist that kind of stuff i'm always

03:25:22.920 very very hesitant but um you know if we do look at the the the pronunciations and the the uh where

03:25:31.480 the name comes from and the significance of the ash tree amongst the the nordic folk um

03:25:39.400 again it lends to this being more genuine then again there is another mystery behind

03:25:44.280 the exact translation of embla most people take it as the elm some people have tried to argue

03:25:50.120 that it's the vine i don't think that's the case but you know the only other thing i would say is

03:25:57.320 there is a reference to it in tacitus that the tribes believed that they originated from

03:26:05.000 monos and that the the original uh progenitor of the folk was monas and i would argue though i

03:26:15.560 don't know but i think there's a great level of um inclination towards that they're referring to

03:26:21.880 um lord heimdall as being the originator of the folk and that manis and lord heimdall are um

03:26:31.720 again just the linguistics between the germanic and the norse but uh you know to no offense to

03:26:38.200 in either way but that was another thing that popped in my head when you mentioned it about

03:26:43.400 the origination of um the folk i generally default to no that i don't think that snorty

03:26:51.000 was being devious i don't so it's it exists though um trying to

03:27:04.120 go ahead and float your sandwich well i was i was gonna say that i don't think he's devious

03:27:08.680 i don't think it's malicious and then on top of that there is enough substantial substantial

03:27:15.320 evidence of um it's standing on its own that ask and embla in relation to

03:27:26.440 the the trees that are unrooted and unfated um having their own standing and we see this again

03:27:33.160 a lot like the asavakni the sprinkling of the baby um you know this is marked on and is

03:27:41.880 chronologically seen as far before christianity even kind of injects itself into the northlands 0.96

03:27:49.800 but yet it's eerily similar to a tradition we have today that kind of developed on its

03:27:55.400 own track with influence i wouldn't i mean it pre it pre-exists

03:28:02.680 so it is from the elder edda as well so it's not just like snorri

03:28:08.520 came up with the names by himself it exists in both of the eddas which doesn't preclude it but

03:28:19.240 it's a point of convergence it is in both of them by name in the original text to where it's not you

03:28:26.040 know like put there um and suppose if they were trees and he had the optional like oh what kind

03:28:34.200 of trees adam and eve i guess ash and elm when he could have gone like oak and birch or something

03:28:43.640 but again without knowing that

03:28:50.200 i don't think that is the case i think it might just be a random kind of coincidence deal

03:28:56.840 but i see i see what you see and i can't say there's not cause for for just you know

03:29:04.520 i get it another one that i see that's kind of it's it was annoying at first because i saw it a

03:29:12.360 lot was niflheim or nivelheim and nephilim a lot of people try to make a connection there as well

03:29:20.600 there's no linguistic connection it's simply coincidental um they don't correlate to each

03:29:26.760 other so it's i but i now i kind of find it funny but i remember at the time i was like

03:29:33.960 i was like panicking i guess like what what are you guys doing

03:29:40.280 um how long do you leave your offering on your altar and how do you dispose of it swan

03:29:48.600 oh that's a great question i um i don't want to say i want to give you a finite answer so i will

03:29:54.360 say the predominance of the gifts that i give is in uh liquid form via mead or ale and what i will

03:30:01.320 do is i will immediately after everything is settled if if my family is there and we're about

03:30:08.920 to start eating as they start to go and eat i say hey guys i'm gonna go and give the offering

03:30:14.520 and so i will immediately walk out i have certain time like during yule i will do things overnight

03:30:21.080 and then i will i will um gift in the morning um but i don't like to do more than that because me

03:30:27.400 can can uh attract ants um and other things so like i try to do it immediately as far as like

03:30:34.680 flowers and fruit i generally like to decorate the harrow because it's not only just a gift but a kind

03:30:43.880 of aesthetic of the harrow it's kind of like um i don't know like uh when you get a new haircut you

03:30:53.080 feel good well when you when you decorate your harrow and you and you have a you know a great

03:30:58.440 uh kind of gifting to the gods you want it to look pretty you want it to kind of reflect the

03:31:04.200 way you feel about the gods so i'll leave those on there for a little while longer and then generally

03:31:09.880 i uh bury um those items and then place soil over top um other than that like you're talking about

03:31:19.960 like say creating a picture of the gods that uh you really are proud of and you want to give to

03:31:25.720 them but then eventually you're gonna burn i've done that for like where it would be on on the

03:31:31.560 harrow for months sometimes even a year and then eventually it's like okay i've enjoyed it i hope

03:31:38.280 you enjoyed it let me burn this and i gift it to you um you know so it just it really depends but

03:31:45.560 the mainstay i would say is immediately when we're talking about like mead and things of that nature

03:31:52.520 so logistics some things just you know however it is on my home altar

03:32:02.680 most often i offer liquid if i offer liquid

03:32:09.800 i'd leave it i leave it indefinitely and then the liquid evaporates and the sugar and

03:32:19.300 whatever other residue gets there and then i have to scrub it off whatever i've got but i just leave

03:32:24.820 it to i let nature take its course on liquid and that ends up happening

03:32:32.320 I also live in the desert right now, so it happens faster than it does other places.

03:32:40.960 Food is different, and food is especially different if you've got pets.

03:32:46.660 Like a hesitancy of leaving food out on your altar.

03:32:51.520 You know, your dog gets up there trying to eat it and knock everything over and cause a bunch of chaos.

03:32:56.080 um food stuff in a perfect world i think overnight is a nice thing to do

03:33:03.360 um i think practically in situations where i've had animals or where it's been like at the hof

03:33:17.260 or something maybe food staying out while everybody else eats a meal as a plate and

03:33:22.740 then taking the offering outside and putting it at a tree um I try to let nature take its course

03:33:32.280 with offerings because I think that's part of the natural mechanism of how that works like I don't

03:33:39.240 you know I realized it's not like Santa Claus like I don't if I'm leaving the offering out by

03:33:49.020 the tree i go to sleep i wake up in the morning and it's gone ah look one of the gods came down

03:33:54.540 on you know walked down the rainbow bridge and grabbed it and you know took a bite and walked

03:34:02.300 we understand that we know that's not how it works so i think that um scavengers and whatever

03:34:08.380 else i think that's part of sending that wherever it goes beyond the veil i think that's part of

03:34:15.340 that process naturally so i will leave it out by whatever the usually wherever i'm at i'll have a

03:34:22.860 particular tree that is where you know is the focus of outdoor worship um and so i put that

03:34:33.020 there and you know again let nature take its course with it it's usually what i do

03:34:39.100 um you know i wouldn't just rush out to dump it out but like i mean

03:34:50.380 yeah i was gonna say sometimes we do that at uh at a half if we're doing something we very often

03:34:57.020 take it out and make the offering outside with the liquid as like part of the ceremony almost or as

03:35:02.620 like a regular routine afterwards usually if we're doing an offering to like the ancestors

03:35:09.020 and we're making an ancestors plate we'll set that on the ancestors altar and then you know

03:35:14.460 in the evening when everybody's cleaning things up we'll take that outside and offer that

03:35:21.420 what i also really like to do at the hoffs we have folks that are that their remains are with us at

03:35:32.620 three of our Hoffs and at Sigurheim, I like to take the mead, especially if it's a drinking

03:35:42.920 ritual like sambal or we're sharing the horn. I like to take what's left of the horn and go and

03:35:50.440 share that and pour that over the graves of the people that we have there so that they're,

03:35:56.620 in essence commuting with us and part of that sharing oh one other gift that i didn't i mean

03:36:05.420 i knew it was but it didn't really hit me until you had made mention of something before um

03:36:12.140 uh incense as a gift um i was here to go the we were on the phone and you would ask me like hey

03:36:20.140 burn some incense for me to the holy thor um you know and and offer up a prayer and i i was like

03:36:28.460 oh yeah i mean we do that in the beginning of of many of our bloats we offer this this first gift

03:36:34.300 of of good smelling um incense to heimdall as remembering that he is the flame and the ignition

03:36:41.900 of our folk to become the aryan folk um but the um the idea i've heard people argue that you know

03:36:51.660 incense is not a thing because our ancestors never spoke about it and it's or it's like some sort of

03:36:57.980 hermetic magic or it's some sort of you know whatever or what have you i mean that kind of

03:37:04.300 falls into line with any gift that we give with the intention placed within it whether it's a modern

03:37:13.420 kind of gift or what have you i certainly think incense is a viable gift

03:37:19.420 i think our ancestors did burn herbs with the intent of making good smells um i know that

03:37:25.820 there's maybe people reject it because there's heavy christian connotations and they just gotta

03:37:30.620 do the opposite of whatever um but that's another great one is is um giving that incense and letting

03:37:40.380 it burn of course take care make sure you know all your fire safety and stuff like that is really

03:37:45.020 good another is of course um burning like an oil lamp or candles i mean um you know a lot of people

03:37:54.460 like our ancestors didn't really have a lot of candles they did like oil lamps but i think it's

03:38:00.060 kind of ridiculous if somebody's like ah you know our ancestors didn't burn candles

03:38:05.020 so why should we and it's like that's again that purity spiral

03:38:11.180 but another great gift i think is it's really great shall only eat walrus right well and i

03:38:17.100 mean it's like you can write into the candle like prayers runic whatever and burn them as

03:38:25.900 as a gift and i think that's cool but people just know absolutely it is candles are awesome

03:38:35.660 do stuff do stuff you want to do that's meaningful if the point of it is respectful

03:38:39.900 and you're doing it respectfully and that's that's the point um but yeah some of these

03:38:46.780 questions i think this is stuff that a lot of people wonder especially when they're starting

03:38:51.100 even if they've been doing it a while they probably wonder what other people do

03:38:55.500 well and um i think wolf throne even said like he he thinks about questions and writes them down for

03:39:02.060 vns just to kind of throw them out there as i've said before this is largely a question and answer

03:39:07.900 show that's what adds kind of the you know that's what adds so much value to this i'm

03:39:14.380 really thankful for all the questions um

03:39:16.700 another wolf thrown question is it appropriate to venerate a dead relative who lived an

03:39:27.580 alternative lifestyle

03:39:32.860 by quotes around alternative lifestyle

03:39:37.900 i'm picking out somebody that probably celebrated last month um

03:39:42.620 um that's what that word means to me um

03:39:51.560 your ancestors your ancestors you're gonna know appropriateness on that much better than I am

03:40:00.440 I would not do so in a public way when other people are involved

03:40:07.400 like I wouldn't honor that ancestor at Sumble with all of the rest of us who don't know about

03:40:16.080 that lifestyle choice and if you were at Sumble and you're like I'd like to raise a horn to my 1.00

03:40:24.860 gay uncle so-and-so we would absolutely immediately stop and rescind that and 1.00

03:40:33.020 you know that would be that would be inappropriate in that context and we would 0.96

03:40:39.260 be obliged to make it known that was inappropriate in that context

03:40:44.000 that's a that's a gray area your veneration of your ancestors they're your ancestors and you're

03:40:55.160 kind of making those judgments or whatnot but i wouldn't foist those on uh unsuspecting

03:41:02.120 participants certainly yeah so next question is there a way to worship and honor the gods when

03:41:17.640 you're in the military and have limited time i am set to start on monday swan you are this is a

03:41:24.520 particular area of expertise that you have that i do not go for it oh fenry well so

03:41:31.640 a lot of times it's done just as you can make it. Um, like I said, I've, I've had a bloat with

03:41:41.560 simply a canteen and canteen cup, and that was what I had. Um, so you, you know, you kind of have

03:41:49.840 to be, uh, creative, but it depends too. If you get your own, I had a hero in my, um, uh, my

03:41:58.760 barracks room but i had to disassemble it and like put it away when we had room inspections

03:42:05.080 um because at the time that i was in there was not a lot of respect uh and to be honest i wouldn't

03:42:10.920 want there to be i don't i don't want you know like if there's some indian guy who joins the

03:42:17.400 military and he you know makes a big stink because you know gunnery sergeant punted his elephant

03:42:25.560 ganisha out the top level of the um you know barracks room or something like you know made me

03:42:35.720 beer all over my desk that's what i was aiming i saw you drinking it i was like oh i gotta land

03:42:40.920 this one no in all seriousness like the point is is that when you join the military you do conform

03:42:49.960 they don't take the gods away from you um but you do have to become creative and at the same time

03:42:57.640 you know conform to that that lifestyle you oath yourself into this servitude and servitude is

03:43:04.520 very rarely ultra accommodating in any way um but yeah i had a hero that i would disassemble

03:43:12.840 and place inside a a drawer and then when i was done with those inspections i i would pull it out

03:43:19.640 i had to explain to my barracks you know mate why i had what i had most of them were very very very

03:43:26.120 amical about it some of them little you know hyper christian kind of weirded out like i

03:43:32.120 got the devil worshiper or whatever um the other thing i would say is that if you can facilitate

03:43:40.200 simply owning the the vessel in which you hold the liquid and the vessel in which you gift the liquid

03:43:48.280 um it could be a chalice and a bowl it could be two chalices maybe one's like slightly bigger than

03:43:55.080 the other whatever it may be and having the ability to find private time private space away

03:44:02.440 if you're on a base and you have the ability to go out for the weekends you know maybe consider

03:44:09.160 spending some of your very valuable valuable liberty time to honor the gods that's a sacrifice

03:44:16.600 starting long before the libations um and i and i totally get that but that's part of that that

03:44:22.920 development i think that the gods understand when you are committed to this oath um i believe if

03:44:30.200 if you're in finland it's it's mandatory it's you're you're oathed into it from before your

03:44:35.480 birth um but it's a great honor to defend your nation and um so i think that it's it's important

03:44:44.200 that you that i think the gods understand and you just got to get creative try different things um

03:44:50.600 kind of see the lay of the land because you're going in and boot camp is very different than

03:44:55.160 your schooling like you might you'll go into like basic training and then you go into your

03:44:59.560 your specific school of whatever you're doing and then once you do that you kind of get placed into

03:45:05.880 your um uh long-term home if you will and uh then you have a lot more um of an ability or if you go

03:45:16.520 overseas and like i was in overseas and and held bloats on i held the bloat on the euphrates river

03:45:22.120 it was i'm by myself but i honored my gods in the you know in mesopotamia um and it was awesome

03:45:31.400 but i didn't have a lot i didn't have a horn i didn't have a loud bowl that i would consider

03:45:36.520 of any any worth but that really doesn't matter in those situations

03:45:42.840 gods get it call out to them speak their name give them prayer and praise and give them gift

03:45:51.160 and you know just make it make it happen despite the um the barriers and yeah

03:45:58.600 so uh from finwraith is it an oath still an oath and is breaking just as bad if you only

03:46:10.920 made the oath to yourself if one promises themselves uh that they would do something

03:46:17.880 that's a great question so no because it

03:46:32.640 those oaths are not real

03:46:36.420 is it bad sure in a number of ways I think you know maybe whether you want or not

03:46:46.500 your ancestors and you know unseen folk may take notice of the fact that you did it even

03:46:56.340 and then you couldn't live up to what you promised yourself I think your filia notices that and

03:47:05.200 loses respect for you it is not good but the point of an oath is the onlookers like what makes it

03:47:15.040 different than other stuff is the accountability of it being witnessed. And that's kind of the

03:47:22.120 purpose of the oath. Being unable to fulfill promises that you make to yourself is

03:47:29.440 a weakness of character that is bad, but it's not the same as having other people

03:47:37.820 witness or validate your oath and then judge you because of it. The accountability factor

03:47:44.660 isn't they're the same so it's not good but if you want to make a real oath don't make you know

03:47:51.160 a chicken crap oath make a real oath in front of people or at the very least in front of your gods

03:47:57.560 and then be judged accordingly and follow through with your oath do you see do you see it differently 0.98

03:48:05.860 do you have a different take on it or anything to add no yeah i was focusing on the same thing

03:48:11.120 that you kind of honed in on the just as bad and um you know when you give an oath to yourself let's

03:48:17.760 and i guess it's the depending on the way you do it if you just do it internalized that is nowhere

03:48:24.480 near as if you go out and make a proclamation to the gods then we're getting into it's it's not

03:48:32.000 really an oath to the self exactly but the other thing is is that oaths with the the again the

03:48:41.840 recognition of you partaking or undertaking the oath um in your community builds that that honor

03:48:50.720 it builds that again social kind of currency and it's really really important that accountability

03:48:56.560 is is laid down there so if you told me swan i treat my personal oaths just as powerful as my

03:49:08.080 you know public oaths i would i wouldn't say you're wrong i would say that's a commendable

03:49:13.200 thing but there's no way for me to truly know if that's the truth or not but i can know the truth

03:49:19.760 if you make an oath in front of me and then you stick to it then i will be like this man makes

03:49:25.040 oaths and he he has stuck to them i have seen it i've witnessed it and then i could tell others

03:49:32.160 with with 100 assurance that i you know every oath i've seen this man take he's held true to

03:49:38.640 even if it was just one but still the point is there um yeah

03:49:46.800 and if you again if you go before the gods um

03:49:49.440 um you know that's not alone you're not alone and they see that that's what comes to mind is

03:50:04.320 just the common expression um

03:50:10.080 and I say this I'm not sure if it's common in Finland um but be able to look at yourself in

03:50:16.500 mirror that is the most you know fundamental example of self to self

03:50:22.680 and I've had some very profound spiritual two very profound spiritual instances and I think that they

03:50:36.920 bookend with one another in my case in this instance

03:50:41.760 of there's stuff to do where you stare at yourself in the mirror for a certain amount of time and

03:50:48.560 there's some ritual work and some magic practice that way your ability to see yourself in those

03:51:00.660 things and the profound amount of judgment you one typically has for oneself

03:51:06.440 it is very impactful if you genuinely go through that point of promising yourself to do something

03:51:19.440 and then you are forced to look yourself in the mirror knowing that you can't live up to

03:51:25.060 the things you promised and then making that self-judgment there is something to that and

03:51:34.640 but just as we don't believe in equality there's nothing that's just as anything else

03:51:41.300 wolf throne is it syncretism to pull ideas and concepts from other indo-european branches

03:51:49.740 acharya g often encourages asa true are to borrow from a sanatana dharma to help

03:51:55.680 fill in the gaps yes it's absolutely syncretism the question isn't that it's questions is it wrong

03:52:03.360 it's literally what syncretism means but is it appropriate um and i would say you know yes when

03:52:10.640 used judiciously i think that's a you know when thought is applied to it i think that's absolutely

03:52:18.160 appropriate uh what's the useful i remember us talking about this during um my gothar mentorship

03:52:27.600 and you were my mentor and we were talking about the blueprints of a chair and we have this this

03:52:34.400 you know the ornamentation the aesthetic the um is uniquely ours but we're missing

03:52:41.280 sections of how they join things together so looking at other blueprints we could easily kind

03:52:48.400 of overlay and understand perhaps the joint process or the um you know the tongue and

03:52:55.360 groove or whatever it is it's just we were kind of going on this analogy about the chair and the

03:52:59.840 blueprints of the chair um yeah i think that's uh you know we do it with a great consideration

03:53:08.760 because we don't want to pull too far from outside of our well when it comes to certain

03:53:16.620 things but other things absolutely we can kind of see it and that it that's that goes with the

03:53:23.260 Gauls and the Slavs and, and even the Hellenics. Um, the absolute, like utilizing, even in art,

03:53:32.480 when we started utilizing the sun and rod as a head adornment, that's very just Pan-Aryan for 0.97

03:53:39.480 Europe. Um, and again, it was done with a judicial thought. Are we, are we stepping too far out or, 0.93

03:53:45.940 uh, or what have you? The same with that when we started to use the stoles, um, those thoughts came

03:53:51.800 in greatly about you know where things come from um you know or or synchronizing with our modern

03:54:00.600 culture in america too um you know and not like dressing up and and and larping and things like

03:54:07.240 that um yeah these things we definitely consider and we we pull in uh the problem is is that like

03:54:14.920 for instance with the stoles the stoles are greek but have been uh synchronized into other traditions

03:54:21.000 that we clearly now know are you know kind of foreign to us um yeah you'll see it at a graduation

03:54:27.000 because the greeks and greek fraternities and things but also christians have stoles so what 0.98

03:54:33.160 ends up happening is you have the purity spiral or that's like we can't do that because they do it

03:54:39.240 and um without considering the cultural context of it the importance of being able to walk into

03:54:47.400 hospital to give last rites and everyone in the room who isn't also through her know that your

03:54:53.720 clergy that has value and um so that's that i think that's the only time we've ever really had

03:55:00.280 a lot of problems is when one tradition synchronize it or um uh secret secretist i guess is that the

03:55:10.360 context secretized one tradition and uh and we are in essence doing the same thing and they they

03:55:17.880 kind of run parallel then we get a lot of people who kind of you know try to shake the finger at us

03:55:23.720 but um uh the only other thought i had was um with when it comes to hinduism or vedic early um

03:55:36.120 stuff there is a lot of stuff but i think most of the focus is around the bhagavita

03:55:40.760 um or the bhagad i always say that wrong bhagavad yes i always end up missing a syllable in there

03:55:50.360 um there is some correlations there uh some people i know do prayers in the mornings

03:55:56.440 to the gods and they are kind of like a resemblance of hindu prayers um but

03:56:03.400 But I don't know. I feel like in certain cases, we've substantiated our own developments.

03:56:10.320 And I think people that hear like, oh, where did this prayer come from?

03:56:13.860 It's like, oh, it's been in with Alcatraz since the 70s.

03:56:16.580 And they're just like, not legitimate.

03:56:18.860 It's got to be from the ancient days of, you know, or what have you.

03:56:24.080 And that kind of is like a downer, too, when people think that way.

03:56:28.440 These developments happen within a couple of decades.

03:56:31.920 but people all over the community use them they're a tradition like funny the couch they're

03:56:37.200 sitting on when they're waving their finger in their mom's basement is also from the 70s um

03:56:45.040 with the floral pattern and the cigarette burns in it

03:56:51.280 so we're dating ourselves now is what that is that's probably that's my grandma's couch probably

03:56:56.320 not disregard so um but no secret syncretism within aryan religiosity is fine with external

03:57:11.680 religious practice you've got to wonder why so to say that we don't with any kind of european

03:57:20.080 christian practice especially medieval practice it's trying to flesh out what of that is middle

03:57:27.440 eastern and jewish and what of that is from our folk soul so there's certain you know no but

03:57:34.640 sticking with indo-european religions to fill in gaps or to you know come up with some cool

03:57:41.440 ideas of how to do stuff that's not wrong at all something you just keyed in on the development of

03:57:47.600 uh i'm just air quoting here pagan practices um that developed and actually furthered along

03:57:55.760 after christianization is something that we also consider when we talk about the europe

03:58:02.720 europeanization of christianity we don't see christianity we see european and so there's

03:58:09.200 some stuff there as well you know where a cool place is to find recipes to make for hoff events

03:58:17.840 is in like baptist cookbooks that's not because jesus that's because white people got together

03:58:25.120 and made delicious food to share with people at an event it's very tempting to throw the

03:58:31.200 baby out with the bath water but when you're like why do certain religious because some of

03:58:38.160 it has to do with culture but others of it has to do with geography you know if you find

03:58:46.400 and i'm trying to think of a good example in my head and i don't know that there is one but if a

03:58:52.080 certain group of people honors their gods in a certain way is that because of that religion

03:59:00.080 in its opposite in in a way that's oppositional to ours or is it because of that's the things

03:59:06.720 available in their landscape or is it because that's their cultural development one of the

03:59:12.720 things is white people have developed how white people practice worship of gods and that looks

03:59:18.800 real similar not dependent upon what the religion is also if you're in a certain place you offer

03:59:26.720 certain stuff if you are making offerings to your gods and you're in a place to where

03:59:33.600 your choices are berries and salmon your religious feast is going to look real similar to the inuits

03:59:40.640 is going to look real similar to you know anybody who's in that kind of an area

03:59:48.720 so again i wouldn't get too caught up in that the next question it's easy to get silly with

03:59:57.280 but i think it is a serious question that people want to know and it's one that i think the purity 0.82

04:00:02.480 spiral people abuse people with um wolf throne asks is masturbation a sin in alsatru or is it

04:00:15.600 viewed as bad or ignoble in some way viewed by who no it is not a sin in alsatru 0.51

04:00:24.880 so i'm going to examine those two things separately

04:00:30.580 no it's not a sin and outs are true there's absolutely nothing in our world that makes that

04:00:36.940 sinful or bad it's a said comically by me all the time no our gods don't you know sit around

04:00:49.060 peeping through your window caring if you touch yourself or not because the christian god does

04:00:55.940 in their understanding and that's not that's silly and i don't think that's the case

04:01:06.260 people do a lot of stuff with their body and honestly

04:01:09.220 i don't believe that most of the people who condemn that so hard don't also regularly engage

04:01:22.900 in that uh i just don't i don't think it and it is funny and i'm trying really hard not to take

04:01:32.880 liberties with the humor of the question and the humor comes in because it's it's uncomfortable

04:01:38.620 I think that's something that most people do, most people certainly have done, and I think that when the people that make the biggest virtue signal about that not being good are people that I think are probably very experienced in that activity.

04:02:08.620 then is it viewed as bad or ignoble in some way is a it is a funny question in both senses of the

04:02:17.920 word if it is viewed then yes it is viewed um by each of those things you know it is viewed

04:02:27.520 poorly or at the very least you never would never live that down um Herman perfect example

04:02:34.660 i mean if it's done in an adult theater amongst a bunch of other people then yeah that's probably

04:02:46.580 ignoble and not a good thing um serious but i mean this is a serious question i think a lot

04:02:53.380 of people have that i'm sure a lot of young people have that question and i think a lot of

04:02:58.900 people that come from a place of mental weakness that encounter

04:03:05.620 also true and want to be accepted and hear a lot of these

04:03:13.860 all bluster purity spiral people on the internet yeah get depending on their situation it can be

04:03:22.500 very traumatizing to them if they're hearing different stuff is it viewed as bad or ignoble

04:03:30.180 yeah by those purity spiralers maybe organizationally within the afa or whatever

04:03:37.380 no but it's also not one of those things you talk about it's obviously a very private thing and it

04:03:43.140 would be ignoble to like go on and on talking about it in the public sphere because that's

04:03:49.220 That's, that's not appropriate.

04:03:57.380 Svon, do you have anything to add to that question?

04:04:02.060 I would say the major, well, one is that I think from a, from a Christian standpoint, I know, and a Judaic standpoint, because they are one in the same, ultimately, is that there is some reference that it, I think the quote was, 0.97

04:04:19.220 it is better to spill your seed in the belly of a whore or a uh i don't think they say hooker um 0.98

04:04:28.260 sex whatever uh then to then to you know do it manually if you will um and i think that's where 0.99

04:04:36.820 that that kind of comes from uh i try to see the sources of that same thing with the tattoos like

04:04:43.540 no tattoos and stuff like that that comes from the biblical um covenant between that the yahweh

04:04:50.020 and the israelites like formulated that the torah talks about but i would say and i can't i'd be

04:04:58.340 amiss if i didn't bring it up i think it's really bad to support the um the industry around it and

04:05:07.940 that is i think an aspect we should talk about especially the hyper sexualization of folk women

04:05:17.140 i think also the um kind of the degradation and some of the conditioning that um this society has

04:05:25.300 done to sexualize folk women in an unhealthy way i think it's fine if there's sexuality i think it's

04:05:32.180 fine if women i'm not a prude in any way shape or form but i don't think it's right when it goes

04:05:39.380 into this kind of money making um industry that really has no bounds and not no under

04:05:48.100 like again there's underage people getting exploited by this industry all the time

04:05:53.860 there's a lot of stuff that obviously

04:05:56.580 rubs up against it for lack of a better term

04:06:03.540 i promise i didn't pick it because of that but i chose not to swerve from it

04:06:09.220 um but those are separate issues uh people

04:06:18.420 were doing that activity long before those things were became the industries that they are

04:06:26.580 i think there's issues with that from a pornography standpoint but there's also issues with that from a 1.00

04:06:35.940 the wide array of female gadgetry and such there's a whole industry based around 1.00

04:06:45.700 baseness that is ignoble by its baseness um

04:06:51.620 Um, but I, you know, I, this is not someone to spend a lot of time talking about, but

04:06:57.400 it is something that people have, I think, questions about, and I think are not well

04:07:08.340 served when people won't speak about it or when people dishonestly take positions about

04:07:16.620 it um and one thing i think that for men to talk about it openly

04:07:27.340 presents a weakness in front of other men that men that have not been exposed or admitted

04:07:36.780 to it then can use some one-upsmanship over people and i've seen that be done in a really unhealthy

04:07:44.540 way are you guys going to watch the olympics this summer which originate in ancient greece

04:07:54.380 and i've heard even had rituals and other things to greet gods originally

04:07:59.420 absolutely there was a devotional practice in the original olympics

04:08:06.060 um they were absolutely selling um religious celebration was heavily involved in the ceremony

04:08:16.140 and surrounding that and in in all of that back in the day we did not live in that day uh i will

04:08:23.260 probably not watch the olympics i'm not adamantly opposed i think it's kind of cool if you can find

04:08:27.660 what you want um it's hard and the things that i don't care about swimming it's like in the winter

04:08:37.980 you got to care about ice skating in the summer you got to care about swinging swimming and

04:08:43.420 gymnastics the events that i'm excited about aren't ever on at a time that i'm watching or

04:08:49.500 do i know where to find them if it was on i wouldn't like turn the channel i'd be happy to

04:08:54.460 watch them but i'm and maybe i should but i can't tell you like i i didn't know they were coming up

04:09:02.860 and i haven't watched them very much in a long time certainly not since most of my watching tv is

04:09:11.500 is on some kind of a streaming service i haven't had cable tv in a very long time and even when i

04:09:19.260 did i don't think i used to i think i watched very much olympics other than watching it on

04:09:26.540 broadcast tv for most of the time growing up so it's been a long time i don't really follow it

04:09:32.380 like you know maybe it would be really cool too i don't have any big ethical reason that i don't i

04:09:37.500 just it's hard to come by swan are you gonna watch uh probably not and that's just me being honest

04:09:47.500 the major reason is is because family life and work life don't lend to too much of that i don't

04:09:53.340 get to consume most television media at all and it's not because again i'm like brothers abstain

04:10:01.340 you know or don't don't do the private thing or the tv thing it's all no i i i just don't

04:10:10.140 get a chance to do it because other things going on um work and my kids kind of run a tight

04:10:18.300 uh shifting schedule there so i don't really get a chance to watch any tv i don't we don't actually

04:10:23.420 have a um uh tv service we've got prime amazon prime and that's that's it and we have the

04:10:33.420 internet so i mean what i usually see most of the time is just kind of like the when they have the

04:10:39.420 big ceremony in the beginning and there's all the conspiracy around the uh you know the strange crap

04:10:45.580 that they're doing in that which is strange um hospital beds and covid stuff and all that um

04:10:53.260 but uh i you know i find that fascinating it it intrigues me but uh individual stuff the one

04:11:00.780 thing that i used to watch when i was younger i used to watch fencing taekwondo and um i really

04:11:07.420 liked like discus and um some of the kind of older school ones just because they were

04:11:13.980 they good luck finding those yeah i would absolutely watch olympic weightlifting i

04:11:20.300 would absolutely watch any of the different martial arts i'd watch boxing um even like

04:11:29.180 high jump would be cool some of the field of there's a lot of cool events they just don't

04:11:35.900 show me those cool events in ways that are easy enough for me to find like to point out over on

04:11:40.620 the side my wife suggests that we will probably watch some of the olympics and i say you know

04:11:47.740 we've been married seven years been together ten years we ain't never watched the olympics

04:11:54.860 i think that's wishful thinking so uh do you think the leave cookies and milk out for santa

04:12:04.220 tradition comes from our ancestral pagan need to leave offerings to the gods and ancestors probably

04:12:13.340 i don't have any deep thoughts on that but probably what about you swan oh that's this is

04:12:18.780 wheelhouse stuff for me but yeah i definitely what's that i said this is your jam this is my

04:12:25.660 well yeah rekindling and returning folk back to a more i think i think a less commercialized

04:12:32.540 less uh less modern um and more towards the the the true kind of like overall arching

04:12:40.780 spirit of yule is really important to me and my kids leave out gifts for the yule elf they

04:12:47.660 like the yule log that calls the yule elf and then when the yule elf brings gifts he brings

04:12:52.300 them from the ancestors so they're always gifts that are built around making you stronger making

04:12:58.300 you smarter making you safer and those are the gifts that are open first and we pull down the

04:13:03.340 pictures um of the ancestors that they're from and they get to open those up and then we do the

04:13:10.220 the the gift exchanging because if the yule elf cats a hint of your child like if the child's

04:13:17.020 being greedy um then they get charred coal for the next year in their stocking um he hates miserly

04:13:24.380 you know children um and my kids are really you know built on that they're very much about giving

04:13:30.460 each other gifts they want to get those the gifts that they get from the ulf are usually in the

04:13:34.780 stockings and um you know he rides his yule goat and carries those gifts um from the ancestors it's

04:13:43.580 really i love it but yeah they do give offerings and it's one of the great ways for you to build

04:13:49.020 a devotional sense but this leads to a kind of a greater moral question that i wanted to bring

04:13:53.980 up which was um you know when your children find out about things and how like you know

04:14:01.100 is it a lie or what have you one of the things that i really lean on is that a lot of ex the

04:14:07.420 expression of cultural traditions are built around the spirit of something and that spirit has

04:14:13.020 viability whether it's manifested in in a in a willful form as as a deity which has agency

04:14:21.420 or whether it simply permeates the culture in a sense of just like honor honor has value

04:14:29.260 the the spirit of giving has value and if we give it a face and a name

04:14:36.460 that is important it's cultural to us so yeah i i use it for um a great way for my children to

04:14:44.060 to understand the gift cycle, if you will.

04:14:50.000 So your question as far as the,

04:14:52.400 what about when your kids,

04:14:54.380 what about Santa Claus?

04:15:02.220 I can't address it as a parent yet,

04:15:06.420 but I can as a grown man that implies I was once a child.

04:15:14.060 i don't think that exists like that it's strange today that it does

04:15:21.740 and i think that in times that were more overtly religious

04:15:26.540 i think that by the time that becomes a actual thing

04:15:35.800 your kids

04:15:39.720 you're doing it wrong if your kids think that santa claus and the gods are the same thing

04:15:48.940 and i think a lot of people try to logic it and wonder about that but i don't know people

04:16:00.220 from religious families that you know all of a sudden embraced atheism because you know their

04:16:07.640 parents have been lying to him about santa claus right not a thing it's a retrofit thing that

04:16:14.180 atheists say to damage religious people literally in my mind and as a kid and i didn't know what

04:16:24.120 this meant so the only way that i knew how to conceive it was in a christian lens as a child

04:16:30.220 but like i believed in god so i knew something spiritual beyond me was out there

04:16:40.620 and the only thing that i could see that through a lens was

04:16:45.820 oh this is god or whatever but i wasn't raised with a lot of christianity but i never thought

04:16:52.140 i the thing i discovered the the truth or lack thereof of santa claus the same time i discovered

04:17:03.640 that about pro wrestling and i don't even say that a joke like literally as a child i liked

04:17:10.500 both of those things in like fifth sixth grade i learned that both of those things are not honest

04:17:19.860 representations i'm going to watch the premium live wwe event tomorrow and still enjoy it

04:17:31.220 and i'm a very religious person and a practicing priest now for 12 years i don't

04:17:39.700 think it necessarily causes that but i do think modern atheists think that it causes that yeah

04:17:46.500 i think they swing that around a lot um to try to uh the one up or i'm gonna get you with that but

04:17:54.980 yeah i i yeah i don't i don't think they are the same and i think that if you're doing it right

04:18:01.380 i mean your kids aren't going to be confused that they're the same at that point either

04:18:06.820 and i think that if you're doing what svan is doing to where he's kind of looping concepts

04:18:11.700 together and progressively applying those things to actual worship and disassociating them from

04:18:22.820 the fat coca-cola santa claus which i'm not even speaking against santa claus is awesome that's 0.82

04:18:29.700 great um i'm not faulting that at all and i'm not faulting the the fat coca-cola guy

04:18:36.980 he's way better than european santa claus there's a picture of i looked for it during yule and we

04:18:45.780 were talking about this i can't find it there's a picture of my mom and my uncle were with my

04:18:52.980 grandparents in post-war germany like because he was stationed over there as far as you know

04:18:59.460 the post-war dividing up the country dealing with stuff

04:19:02.100 that santa claus was terrifying the war was hard on him he was he was gaunt and creepy and like

04:19:16.740 in the picture you can see my mom and my uncle were made very uncomfortable by this skeletal um

04:19:25.220 um santa claus and seen seen a rough few years over there so uh yeah um manly macho alpha male

04:19:39.380 question matt do you pray to thor for bigger gains and do either of you take cold showers

04:19:45.380 are there any benefits to it so appreciate that law speaker is not on here with me because you

04:19:53.060 very divergent views from me on cold showers um here we go

04:20:00.420 there are people out there that insist that cold showers are

04:20:04.500 the bee's knees they are the cure all to everything they

04:20:09.860 i am told that they increase testosterone production i am told that i have been told by

04:20:21.060 people that they cure and you can just ad-lib from there like there's a spot put it in there

04:20:28.820 it is cured by cold showers um i've heard that the two questions ago question was also

04:20:39.300 no longer a need for due to cold showers um i've heard a lot of things about cold showers and uh

04:20:51.060 I do not recommend cold showers sound horrible one of the most like just makes you feel good

04:21:01.700 after a hard day or when you wake up or any time in between especially as someone who's getting

04:21:09.180 older and stiff joints and hot showers are awesome I'm a fan of hot showers my ancestors

04:21:17.440 toiled so that i could have hot showers and i will i will honor their their efforts by engaging in

04:21:26.240 i've heard a lot of really good things about the cold shower deal i don't know i've also heard

04:21:30.960 stuff with them as far as like going alternating from hot and cold like they would do in saunas

04:21:37.120 or you know various traditions that way in parts of europe and russia and you know shoot i've done

04:21:43.360 that up in uh in alaska you know you jump jump out you go shock your system by jumping in

04:21:51.360 a pile of snow and then you get back in the hot tub or whatever you're doing um

04:21:58.080 yeah i don't recommend i don't think the juice is worth a squeeze

04:22:02.640 i fully believe that it has some effect on something at some point somewhere somehow sure

04:22:09.760 but i don't anecdotally know that those are true a lot and some of the people that told me a lot of

04:22:17.680 the curative powers of cold showers are people that are delusional about other things as well

04:22:26.480 so i don't necessarily buy into that not speaking about law speaker he's pretty good on stuff

04:22:31.360 and i think the cold showers actually help him

04:22:33.840 okay so i've heard a number of things in the culture i'm going on the cold shower thing a lot

04:22:42.000 because i want to be fair i hate the idea of it and i have no intention to practice it

04:22:47.200 and i will like flex on people that do if they were telling me i'm supposed to

04:22:52.480 i do know that some people do that and it helps in a curative way i've never really experienced that

04:22:59.760 so there's probably something to it i don't think it's worth the squeeze as far as have i ever

04:23:11.120 prayed to thor for bigger gains um

04:23:18.160 it's funny because push put like that it sounds silly and i wouldn't do that to be sacrilegious

04:23:23.520 but i think that early on um when i was really concerned about that and i was a younger man

04:23:31.680 trying to look better and become stronger and become something more than i am

04:23:40.560 that i've absolutely at times prayed to also for to help inspire me and help give me strength

04:23:49.520 and uh you know i i believe that i have done that as a younger man i don't do that anymore i don't

04:23:56.960 think that's the appropriate time to to do that it just seems like an odd an odd thing to do but

04:24:05.920 i would certainly you know look to thor for inspiration on that i've often you know fantasized

04:24:13.440 about owning my own gym i used to think about that a lot it was absolutely part of the plan to set up

04:24:19.520 a little little four altar at the front desk um so i don't think that's bad but no that's not part

04:24:27.440 of my regular pre-workout routine um swan do you have any cold shower wisdom for us i um uh one i

04:24:37.760 would say i mean i have prayed to thor for inspiration and to do things that are worthy

04:24:44.320 to be to be noticed of the of the thresholds that i that hold me back but and i would again i speak

04:24:53.340 to about the the house of true world the house of true nation if we had an idea of like what a

04:24:58.200 culture would look like yeah when you walk into a gym i think it would be perfectly appropriate to

04:25:03.300 have a harrow and a godstead to thor right there as a reminder that you you gotta get into it in

04:25:12.100 order to get it done, motivate people. Um, but no, the cold shower thing, I'm a huge sauna guy,

04:25:18.700 but one of the things is, is I don't feel the need to tell everyone. That's the part that gets

04:25:25.460 me is people needing to tell everyone like what they're doing or what they're into. And I, I think

04:25:32.980 that's kind of part of the postmodern social media stuff is that they take on something and then they

04:25:40.700 have to validate it like it's worth what they're doing if it is worth what you're doing and you

04:25:47.300 really really like it do it you just don't have to tell people about it i'm a big sauna guy i go

04:25:52.880 to a sauna almost every day of the week and i love it um and i would definitely like to explore

04:25:59.700 going into cold plunge um via bath not um not shower um but i haven't but yeah i i really do

04:26:10.520 enjoy that stuff and i i just don't feel the need to you know tell people everybody's into their own

04:26:16.040 things some people like the stuff i mean sure we can get into like little debates or jokes with

04:26:21.560 each other but at the end of the day you know like i'm a real big kettlebell guy and i really like

04:26:27.080 saunas and but i don't air it a lot um unless we're just specifically talking about that subject

04:26:35.320 um but yeah i mean if you find the benefits do it

04:26:40.520 yeah um so this one's interesting and i'm i'd like you to start on this curious your thoughts

04:26:48.620 uh what do you recommend people do to start building to start building actually i've got

04:26:55.600 something i want to say what do you recommend people do start building their dependability

04:27:00.300 to follow through on their own either to self and or to others

04:27:05.480 that's a great one so

04:27:09.860 don't over promise

04:27:16.560 people have a tendency

04:27:20.600 to

04:27:22.040 just shoot for the moon on stuff

04:27:25.000 when they're excited when they're zealous

04:27:28.880 when they're in the mood like in the spirit

04:27:31.300 of it or even

04:27:33.320 when they're like you know what I'm done with this I'm tired

04:27:35.200 being undependable i tell you what before the gods and everybody i oath i'm gonna and it's this huge

04:27:41.840 thing start small with things that you can accomplish

04:27:51.920 like don't be silly with it like i promised to

04:27:56.960 scratch my ear yay there's one point no but promise to do something that is important 0.97

04:28:10.000 but that you are capable of doing that's relatively small in your life

04:28:16.560 you know whatever it might be i promise that in the next you know week i'm going to call my dad

04:28:23.040 if that's your problem is communication with somebody i promise i'm gonna do whatever you know

04:28:31.520 stuff you don't do i promise that over the next week i'm gonna vacuum every single day if that's

04:28:38.720 your thing i'm gonna whatever it is you know what i'm gonna go to the gym

04:28:44.460 five times every week for the next three months or whatever you're gonna do something that you

04:28:53.020 can actually do and stick to it and build on it use so we build confidence based on real achievement

04:29:09.420 and if it's all pretend then it's it doesn't matter and it can be washed away

04:29:14.700 if it's through accomplishment even if it's small you have something you can go back to

04:29:21.260 And I've seen this in the sense, the way it relates to others, I've seen this with people who have accomplished things physically.

04:29:31.320 If you've been fat and you've gotten in shape, if you find yourself fat again, you have a confidence that other people don't have that you know how to fix this.

04:29:48.240 it is doable you've been able to do it therefore if you put your mind to it you know damn well you

04:29:55.120 can do it again the same thing as with oaths if you build up if you build your ability up

04:30:03.120 by following through on relatively small things and progressively more difficult things

04:30:09.840 then you have the confidence to attempt and to know that you can stay with

04:30:17.220 bigger oaths that you make swan what do you have on that

04:30:21.480 uh swan is muted

04:30:29.980 every time i do that i was i was actually looking up something about

04:30:34.920 um the history of christianity real quick i wanted to double check something um

04:30:41.180 i yeah i think the big thing is is when you do oaths um the severity should not be lost on you

04:30:50.660 a literal part of your soul is going to build up or decrease based on what you're doing so you

04:30:55.860 should take them very very seriously but then you do seek to attain them in a serious sense

04:31:03.400 and go small go for things and i would say the other thing is is don't make a an official oath

04:31:11.420 especially like when it's with yourself instead make like uh i don't you know like kind of like

04:31:18.740 the the statement mark my words you know like hold holding to yourself without putting a piece

04:31:26.980 of your soul on the line and then accomplishing those little things you find the necessity of

04:31:32.520 making oaths diminish um and i think some people think that they need to make oaths in order to get

04:31:38.120 things done that's not true but at the same time if you do decide to take an oath you take that

04:31:44.520 oath i would say make it as official as possible i i made an oath um and i had my wife and two other

04:31:53.080 friends like i wrote everything down and just had them read it and i didn't have them like sign

04:31:59.720 anything or anything but i just i needed them to witness what i was going to do um but yeah start

04:32:06.760 starting small and um you know making proclamations i think my most favorite proclamations to make

04:32:15.800 into oaths um on a personal level is faith-based i'm going to honor i'm going to do this i'm going

04:32:25.000 to do this for a certain amount of days i'm gonna i don't know fast or or whatever whatever you have

04:32:31.480 these kind of testaments to your to your faith i used to do them a lot more when i was younger

04:32:37.320 i to be honest again i'm not as much actively in that now um but they always helped me so i would

04:32:46.120 encourage people to um you know do oaths in personal around faith and building closer

04:32:54.760 relationships or or testing oneself and in hopes to build closer relationships outside of that

04:33:01.480 um if you're gonna do something more serious get people involved um to hold you accountable

04:33:08.680 um and then remember too that you don't if you fail an oath doesn't mean you

04:33:15.480 break an oath that's a big one that people get all kind of spun up in one is um and what i mean

04:33:24.360 that is is okay that's that's interesting when you make an oath to say another party that you

04:33:29.240 have to maintain something and you don't that's kind of breaking enough but if you're making an

04:33:37.080 oath say um to yourself and you don't quite succeed that doesn't mean you're doomed forever

04:33:47.400 you need to pay your price your wear guild if you will and you need to revamp and renegotiate

04:33:56.840 where you're going with it so there's kind of like that delicate balance between

04:34:01.400 being doomed forever it's like you know i'm never gonna eat cheetos again then you eat a

04:34:05.480 a bag of Cheetos and you're like, well, go in a Nastron. You know, it's like, it's not like that

04:34:11.180 at all. Um, but again, you know, the value of that oath might've been questionable to begin

04:34:17.800 with. At least you're going there with orange fingers, right? Orange war paint. Um, uh,

04:34:27.240 instead of Braveheart, it's Graveheart food that you're eating. Anyways. Um,

04:34:33.260 Um, no, I would say that, um, oaths can be renegotiated due to conditions.

04:34:44.860 Um, a lot of times to say you get into an oath with someone else and they do not fulfill

04:34:50.540 certain things or life changes and takes it in a different direction and you have to revamp

04:34:56.700 the oath.

04:34:57.560 There is an applicable point of this, but it's not to be done willy nilly.

04:35:02.700 and i i think uh you know we have a very heavy process in actually involving gothar and oafing

04:35:08.380 systems and things like that um but if you say you fall short on an oath that you made to yourself

04:35:17.420 paying a price outside of yourself to redeem and then again to try to figure out another angle to

04:35:28.700 build that that redemption towards the deed can be done it's just not like immediate doom um

04:35:36.220 so don't don't get that in your in your head if if um you do that but again i would just say

04:35:41.900 make proclamations don't make an oath make a proclamation it's so much easier and less uh

04:35:52.540 tricky or troublesome to get around make a proclamation get it done and if you don't then

04:35:58.700 you need to work on trying to figure out how you can redeem yourself especially if someone

04:36:03.340 else knows about the proclamation absolutely um was christianity ever actually practiced in the

04:36:12.860 middle east i always thought christianity was strictly european like a sort of arianized

04:36:18.060 judaism especially i always knew it started in the middle east but i don't know if it was ever

04:36:24.540 very prominent there um so yes first absolutely was um it was practiced there super heavily during

04:36:41.100 i mean obviously jesus and his early disciples were there but in the

04:36:46.540 all throughout the rest of the roman empire it was very popular in the middle east

04:36:57.740 all throughout that portion of like the hellenized world in the middle east down into i don't know

04:37:10.140 where you stopped considering it but there was um coptic christians in egypt prominently up

04:37:17.100 to and including today jesus's brother started a church in egypt too they were called the simonites

04:37:24.360 yeah there was i mean it spread through the the mechanism of the roman empire early on so

04:37:31.240 everywhere that the empire was christianity was very heavily in the middle east for a really long

04:37:39.360 time um much more prominent in the middle east than judaism was because judaism was a certain

04:37:49.280 tribe of people in a certain place whereas christianity sought to you know be very

04:37:55.840 multicultural so it it spread further and was more all-encompassing it was the very waning days 0.99

04:38:05.200 of the empire where you started to see the rise of islam but you dealt with you know 1.00

04:38:13.520 muslims didn't own the middle east at that time most of that was owned by greeks by the eastern

04:38:20.400 half of the roman empire which were all christians um until it was overthrown in the muslim conquest

04:38:29.680 but that was coming out of arabia not out of i think what a lot of us would consider

04:38:36.560 the middle east there it came out of that peninsula a lot of it um but yeah for a very

04:38:42.240 long time and you ran you had christian community communities in the middle east

04:38:47.120 even during you know times where it was controlled by the arabs you had uh

04:38:53.680 you know when the crusades went to reopen the pilgrim routes to the sacred sites in the

04:39:02.800 middle east for the christians they dealt with a lot of existent christians in the area

04:39:10.880 when when they came over from europe to establish the crusader states there

04:39:17.040 so yeah absolutely practiced in the middle east for a very long time you see it's

04:39:21.520 It's most prominent, flourishing, and the things that are iconically Christian to likely to you because, again, when you think of Christianity, most people in the West don't think of Orthodox Christianity.

04:39:43.920 They don't think of, they think of the Roman Catholic Church and its, you know, descendants in Protestantism in the West.

04:39:58.080 So it got the most hype that way, but absolutely it was.

04:40:01.880 Fond, do you have anything to add on that?

04:40:03.640 Yeah, the foundations of the Christian Church before the Orthodox or the Catholic really comes down to understanding one thing. 0.85

04:40:12.980 saul of tarsus and saul of tarsus was killing heretical jews or christians again christians 0.64

04:40:21.300 to the jews were heretical because they were worshiping the wrong messiah and messiah worship

04:40:26.660 is uniquely abrahamic um it's not found in you know especially like in europe and in arian 0.55

04:40:34.260 religions um but saul of tarsus never met jesus he was alive way after he was a like a jewish

04:40:43.300 bounty hunter of heretical um jews and he was actually like in syria hunting them down when he

04:40:56.980 said that he had uh that he was you know he fell from his horse and he had an uh like a visitation 0.89

04:41:03.220 from a moloch because again saul of tarsus would have been speaking in his language um

04:41:12.500 so he had a visitation from a moloch which later on when they actually ran into greece they chose

04:41:19.460 the word angelos because they needed a correlation um but yeah and the moloch came down and said

04:41:27.700 that he should no longer be persecuting um the uh you know the christians because uh that

04:41:37.220 yashua the rabbi was the correct messiah so then when he go you know he eventually leaves the

04:41:43.940 middle east and kind of goes into greece and that's where he meets simon or shimon and that

04:41:50.420 that ends up being um peter which of course at the time in greece was petra and so um the founders of

04:42:01.940 the christian traditions in greece whether orthodox or catholic ultimately rest on the

04:42:09.380 shoulders of these two guys and saul never met jesus and also the only um he would say he met

04:42:19.700 jesus oh yes in the when they were out on the boat in the spiritual form and he said be a fish

04:42:25.300 on the road yeah on on the road to damascus yeah um jesus well yeah

04:42:36.260 yeah and when they're on the fishing boat he said he claimed that they saw the the image of jesus

04:42:42.980 walking on the water um and go to be a fisher of men which is really just expounding the problems

04:42:49.380 that judaism had with christianity originally they had it as an internal thing you're heretical

04:42:56.100 because you're worshiping the wrong messiah then they were like you know what we're gonna make

04:43:00.340 non-jews into like jews and the jews didn't like that either so that even compounded some of that 0.52

04:43:10.740 but yeah the entirety of christianity falls on those two and saul only knew about um the

04:43:17.460 um the books of of the crucifixion he he didn't really know anything of the early life of um

04:43:26.340 the rabbi yeshua so like he really really focused heavily on that it was peter who knew a little bit

04:43:32.580 more and that's when they started trying to go through and figure out which books were going to

04:43:36.500 be good and not good and this was of course even before the lesser known arian church because the

04:43:43.300 the three big ones were catholic orthodox and arian and arian was part of the gnostics and

04:43:49.860 they didn't believe that the rabbi was um that he was separate from yahweh

04:43:56.340 that he was not the same but in the flesh um he was the son of and that eventually got

04:44:02.580 quashed and and destroyed but um yeah and then what i think what you had said i was here about

04:44:10.660 how when the arabics took over christianity was very widely because that's kind of it's circled

04:44:15.700 back and after constantine you know uh by that time christianity yeah had kind of formulated

04:44:23.140 and spread and went into like persia and um uh again very established in egypt and ethiopia

04:44:31.460 um where there was already um uh african or ethiopian judaism because they believed their

04:44:39.220 connection to moses i guess moses's wife was a newbie and i'm not super familiar with a lot of

04:44:45.940 the details of the old testament um or the torah um what it should actually be called um but they

04:44:54.900 the lineage of uh moses and the nubian that he married um and her going into ethiopia that kind

04:45:05.940 of thing i guess it was just like thanks for the great time going to you know 40 days 40 nights

04:45:11.620 bye and she just went south and started a kind of her own branch but um yeah are you confusing the

04:45:21.460 story of uh um queen of sheba uh one of solomon's wives going down to the ethiopia with oh no that's

04:45:31.460 right sorry yes i am confusing that that is correct she is they suggest they still have the

04:45:40.100 ark there right now but only one guy gets to see it and he like lives in there with it

04:45:47.220 yeah uh i do believe too that there is some connection to moses um in relation to when

04:45:55.140 they were in egypt but i don't yeah i got those two confused because as soon as you said it um

04:46:01.300 one of the big things about that time frame was um i can't remember who it was but the

04:46:06.500 word europe comes from the it's a canaanite or phoenician word because uh one of the the

04:46:16.180 daughters of the phoenicians married she went west and married one of the greeks and her name

04:46:21.060 was europa and that somehow converted into you know she went into that land that is the land

04:46:27.300 her that was her name um i think we brought that up about uh europe not having actual um

04:46:37.540 uh i guess like arian linguistic origin but um yeah i think a lot of people forget and it's like

04:46:46.580 when you run into people a lot of my time on the social media that i get into arguments with is

04:46:51.700 there is a lot of i would say like folk minded christians that absolutely deny that their

04:46:58.900 religion is judaic in origin um they absolutely deny like it only happens after the catholic

04:47:05.780 church everything before that never happened um and that that's really really sad and they

04:47:12.820 go through hoops to you know jesus was wiped um and you know and everyone all the the jews in the

04:47:23.060 bible are different from the jews of today i've heard tons of like mental hoops and so a lot of

04:47:30.020 times it's even funny because i saw some website was trying to mock me saying that i was making 0.84

04:47:35.780 like um anti-semitic remarks when in reality i was arguing that christianity is judaic that

04:47:43.300 was the ultimate thing that i was trying to uh point out and um somehow that got flipped

04:47:50.500 and i thought that was extremely funny um but yeah it was fun do you have a sauna

04:47:57.860 no i don't have a sauna um at my home i have a i have access to a modern sauna at my gym

04:48:08.740 and it sucks because the sauna culture there is not correct and i know it's not correct um

04:48:15.940 you know as far as the dressing and uh the quietness a lot of people go in there and 0.95

04:48:21.220 freaking talk and i hate it when they do that because it's you know it gets a little wild in

04:48:26.420 there um and people are just kind of kind of coming in with their you know they have their

04:48:30.740 shoes on and so on and so forth but um yeah i want to get one built in my backyard and then do one

04:48:38.580 with a with the wood stove that would be awesome i've talked about that numerous times and we've

04:48:43.220 actually looked at models to buy or never actually pulled the trigger to do it all right

04:48:49.300 How do you overcome the fear of death in an house of true context?

04:49:01.260 Swan, do you got thoughts on this?

04:49:04.140 You will be one with those who came before you.

04:49:08.580 None of us come out of this alive.

04:49:10.220 there is a chance for you between now and then to build bright fame and to accomplish things that

04:49:19.220 are really important whether it's with your children or whether your life and you only get

04:49:24.860 that you only get this chance to do it um and so i would be more afraid of not accomplishing

04:49:32.260 the things i want to accomplish but at the end you go back to those who came before you and i

04:49:38.260 think you have anything to fear so i'm gonna answer a little bit differently

04:49:48.260 i don't think you do overcome fear of death death is scary i think death is always scary

04:49:54.020 because the unknown is scary i think what sfan mentioned and i think that we shouldn't be afraid

04:50:02.580 of death and i would tell you exactly what svan just said and all of those things are true

04:50:12.420 but as mammals who have awareness that's scary and um

04:50:23.540 i don't think that it's not i think a lot of that is biologically hardwired into you

04:50:28.660 overcoming the fear of death, I don't think, I think it's very few people that genuinely don't

04:50:37.280 fear death. I think that as people progress in age, perspective goes a little bit different.

04:50:45.760 I've seen elderly people that

04:50:49.240 meet death at the end of a very long decaying process and are relieved by it but

04:51:01.520 i mean i think that so much of heroism is overcoming the fear of death in the sense

04:51:09.600 that they are scared of death and they choose to do stuff anyway um that's scary and i think that

04:51:17.940 i think that it always has been and kind of always is if nothing else just because the unknown factor

04:51:28.100 and there's so much about it that we don't know there's things that we do know and i think that

04:51:35.700 death is much less scary as a practicing also true art than it is if you were an atheist

04:51:47.940 that's terrifying. I think it's much more scary. It's less scary than as 0.96

04:51:54.760 an Abrahamist, because our afterlife concept is very different. And we accept that, you know, 0.92

04:52:08.380 your default is to go be with your ancestors, that your loved ones are going to be able to

04:52:12.800 welcome you and that that that's a thing as opposed to a fixation on punishment through

04:52:23.440 torture for eternity if you get something wrong or an eternity of like non-stop singing

04:52:34.560 around a throne telling jehovah that he's super awesome that sounds horrible

04:52:40.880 like as that's that conception the revelations conception of heaven sounds really horrible

04:52:48.020 um the other thing is

04:52:52.700 and I think that this comes in primarily as being a person of faith as opposed to being

04:53:02.000 person without faith you're never sure till stuff happens i get that but the expectation that

04:53:11.760 the afterlife exists and that your loved ones await you and if you

04:53:20.880 what has made me feel better about it is the interaction with my ancestors who have passed

04:53:32.000 in a way that i truly believe is reciprocal and meaningful

04:53:39.280 if they're there able to interact with me then surely i can expect to be there

04:53:49.120 and able to interact with my living family as well and i think that that doesn't remove all the

04:53:56.480 unknowns but i think that say i think that i i absolutely believe that there is something i

04:54:06.880 believe everything that i've written in the true lamal and that i've spoken to you about but like

04:54:12.240 very confidently there is something i think we know that that's true when you've banished all

04:54:19.040 of that from your mind through atheism, then yeah, facing nothingness is terrifying.

04:54:29.960 But yeah, I don't think you're going to get to a point where death is not scary. I think that a lot

04:54:34.140 of people say they're at that point. And I'm not going to call anybody a liar, but I think life

04:54:41.420 would be lived really different if people truly didn't have a fear of death. The people that

04:54:46.900 don't have a fear of death also don't fear other things and often

04:54:51.840 just comes to mind kind of a counseling scenario we were talking about when you should feel fear

04:55:05.460 for certain things and you don't you just have a numbness and indifference to things that you

04:55:10.700 ought to fear that's a concern and so i think i think that i think that kind of where we're

04:55:20.520 parsing is overcoming the fear of death to where it's not crippling and it's not prohibitive and

04:55:27.240 you can overcome it to do things that need to be done even if that's a risk there and i think that

04:55:34.760 the focus on heroism and the assurance that we go and are most likely to be welcomed by our

04:55:44.500 ancestors now you know what skeletons you have in your closet if you live a particularly egregious

04:55:50.700 life then that you know that outcome might be much more scary 0.96

04:55:54.880 which arian symbol do you connect most with for me it's the black sun just looking at it

04:56:06.760 awaken something in me spawn which uh arian symbol do you most connect with

04:56:11.560 um i was kind of trying to think of two things i would say yeah the sun and rod

04:56:19.640 is or the sun the sun wheel is as i like to call it um is absolutely just dynamic i call it the

04:56:27.040 sun and rod because of two reasons one i don't believe that it's correlation entirely just the

04:56:32.880 color black i see it in different colors i see it in brights yellows and and what have you um also

04:56:39.780 to the the emergence of the usage of the word svartsana that came about i think like in the

04:56:48.420 70s or 80s is when it really started to show um and i you know some of the esoteria esoteric stuff

04:56:58.240 with that um i don't fully gather into um but the sun and rod itself i think has such a powerful

04:57:09.140 um symbology or you know the the thunder cross or the swastika as well but um again that's not

04:57:17.260 uniquely just arian um and i feel like the sun and rot or the sun wheel especially in certain

04:57:24.300 um visages is very very unique to us the uh outside of that the one thing that i thought of

04:57:32.140 that was i think everyone should get behind i think it's a symbol of the teutonic arian

04:57:37.660 is the um the thor's hammer and i i'm a big proponent for that i know a lot of people were

04:57:43.500 talking about like i feel close to you know the holy fray or to lord oh then should i get a spear

04:57:50.540 or a boar or i mean i think that's all fine but one of the big ways that we can all kind of show

04:57:56.460 our unity together is to get a mjolnir or the hammer of thor um as a symbol and when i see

04:58:06.220 that too i feel an a kinship immediately to to my my branch of the aryan people um instantaneously

04:58:17.340 i think uh slavs kind of have expressed very similar when they see um they're um

04:58:25.340 like son and rod but it's it's almost like a sickle style um i forgot the name of it

04:58:31.820 right now off the top of my head it's getting late um but yeah so i would say that the sun

04:58:38.460 the sun wheel and thor's hammer um

04:58:50.220 okay yeah uh thor's hammer absolutely uh connect with a lot of them for a lot of different reasons

04:58:56.780 but the unity of uniting under the thor's hammer is important and i yeah so that's something to go

04:59:06.140 with on it um what are your thoughts on the folks on the folk christians who claim that

04:59:16.220 austrian christianity are related and that old norse language is related to hebrew we're not

04:59:22.700 and it's not that's ridiculous and we've been over that that's just not true

04:59:29.660 mental gymnastics yeah what do you think about the claims that the eddas have christian influence

04:59:37.340 uh do you think it's true or not um

04:59:44.620 no i is it okay it

04:59:48.460 is there some what does that mean of possibly do i think that they are christian influenced

04:59:59.860 in a significant degree that adds a difference or causes divergence no i don't um we've kind

05:00:09.160 of been over that quite a bit too swan do you have any quick thoughts on uh christian influence

05:00:15.060 the edis yeah i was just going to say i i believe that there are three influential factors

05:00:20.820 uh there is snotty was greatly influenced by classical literature so he even kind of

05:00:30.740 i guess hellenized parts of it but people can't it's very hard for them to figure out where that

05:00:36.900 is um you hemorization and making the gods humans very easy to find out because he does it blatantly

05:00:45.540 you know the gods are from troy or whatever and i even heard of uh some uh professor on

05:00:52.020 social media like the the vikings believe that they came from persia and i know exactly what

05:00:57.460 he was referencing was that that spot with troy but ah and it's so clear so i i think it's like

05:01:05.140 the first one is um when he you hemorizes it's super super clear when he hellenizes and when he

05:01:12.660 christianizes it is not clear at all and i think that people try to use that to their advantage

05:01:19.460 when they try to say that like ausitru is amoralistic or doesn't have the same concepts of

05:01:24.420 like you can get in trouble with your afterlife and and so on and so forth i think that stuff

05:01:30.660 did exist i think that for me the biggest spot is um the the the place away from time

05:01:40.660 the lower world the place far away from the gods i think that's the greatest part where he

05:01:49.780 may have sprinkled in a little of his own bias and there especially like with the well

05:01:54.180 very elmer um but at the same time i don't think he did it with with helheim um because

05:02:01.460 helheim is exactly what i was here ago they said it's death and death is scary and he

05:02:07.300 nailed it um and so is now strong now strong is scary um and i think that that has a purpose

05:02:16.660 yeah it's it's just it's it's far less clear cut when you look at those two as opposed to humor

05:02:23.620 you have we're gonna we're gonna call a stop to the questions because it's very late and i'm very

05:02:30.020 tired and i think it's fun as well we have two more questions that i do want to hit but i just

05:02:34.980 want to stop the additional ones because uh i'm gonna start getting loopy here i'm pretty sleepy

05:02:42.340 um on the uh christian influence something i want to say when i'm

05:02:46.980 i don't very seldom do i encounter that in a genuine way and i think that the people on this

05:03:01.020 broadcast asking are asking in a genuine way no disrespect but a lot of the people that want to

05:03:07.100 take the position that it's christianized they just want to make an excuse to do whatever they

05:03:14.100 much they don't like that something tells them this is this and that's that so oh it's just

05:03:21.700 christian i don't i don't listen to that anyway i story was christian so instead i'm just gonna

05:03:26.980 have archaeology and just make up whatever stuff i want to make up and that's irresponsible and

05:03:32.820 it's disingenuous and that's what i see most of the time or somebody heard somebody else

05:03:39.460 who heard somebody else say it so they just say it because it's a thing um and the other thing is

05:03:47.140 you know this perpetual never want to know an answer there's people who specifically want to do

05:03:54.180 other stuff and so they don't want anybody to tell them what to do because snore is a christian or

05:04:02.740 there's people who want to perpetually not know and perpetually just wonder about everything and

05:04:07.860 And I guess we'll never know.

05:04:11.200 Isn't that beautiful that we just become wise 1.00

05:04:14.920 when we're wise enough to know that we're really stupid? 0.99

05:04:21.400 It's the most non-centrical... 1.00

05:04:24.160 Radical centrism.

05:04:26.100 Yeah.

05:04:26.940 No, it's irresponsible people that do that most often.

05:04:31.060 Can I promise you that there's absolutely zero influence

05:04:35.040 of anything that might have been informed in some way or in some phrasing by sonori's

05:04:41.840 christianity of course not but i don't see that in a significant way or a way that alters the

05:04:47.440 fundamental you know any of the value of it and you know it's too christianly cool then what do we

05:04:54.000 got because we're really lucky and really fortunate and blessed to have it if what do i always say

05:05:02.800 don't let perfect be the enemy of good if we've got something that's very good we shouldn't just

05:05:08.000 be rushing to find reasons to dismiss it that's that's irresponsible and it's cowardly um

05:05:19.840 speaking of death how do you incorporate stories like

05:05:23.520 i do and the golden apples or do you feel it is a different context

05:05:29.200 i get what you're saying i want to hear what spawns i

05:05:36.340 yeah i think because i feel i'm just gonna throw it out i think it's a different context

05:05:44.860 i think it is a perpetual renewal thing that is

05:05:52.320 necessary i think it relates more to the theme that i talk on here a lot about the constant

05:06:00.000 motion i think it speaks about a fight against stagnation and a need to re-consume

05:06:12.400 of that holy nature in order to stay young and stay revitalized so much of our lore is about

05:06:20.400 if you stop movement then entropy sets in and you degrade and ages like that too you hit a point

05:06:29.760 and you're just heading downhill at some point and you need this this refreshing this renewal

05:06:35.520 i think a lot of it talks about our cycles and our cycles of renewal uh within the world tree

05:06:41.120 and caring for it as opposed to letting it grow brittle um

05:06:46.480 um but it's fine do you have any any thoughts on on that as it relates to death when we were talking

05:06:54.460 about Hellenization one thing that was brought up and kind of mulled about was the the Hellenic

05:07:03.460 gods with their Ambrosia and the Norse uh Teutonic gods with their golden apples I would say this is

05:07:13.180 arian like thing so that's kind of cool it brings it into that level where we start to see the

05:07:19.020 pan arianism of the way we view the gods and how they maintain their their position but i've always

05:07:26.620 argued that our gods are the lords of light and of um of the air and like the the vanir the cyclical

05:07:35.900 natural law gods of water and earth that's really really simplifying it but i think that story

05:07:43.180 really is about the gods in their heavenly realm cultivating that light and we see that light

05:07:50.700 combined with what i the divine sound or frequency especially considering that idun and bragi are

05:07:58.860 are a couple we have this cultivation of divine light this cultivation of sound and and true like

05:08:07.020 vibration really or frequency i don't know how you would call it but that being correlated in

05:08:13.260 the realm of order in the realm of the gods and then on top of that to add even more the gateway

05:08:21.660 to the heavenly realm is projected through a prism the bifrost bridge that is you know that is the

05:08:31.020 connection point that um heimdall has so heimdall being the white house the one who kind of again

05:08:39.420 formulizes these big big concepts of the gods into a finite connection to the earth

05:08:48.300 he comes down and connects the gods to our folk so whenever i i think about even and and the gods

05:08:57.260 i think about that that cultivation of the that which makes them everlasting that makes they're

05:09:05.260 not everlasting like as in immortal but as long as like i was here ago they said as long as they

05:09:10.700 cultivate as long as they continue to build in that and pull from that they remain and um there

05:09:20.140 i mean i've heard other people say you know that it represents our souls the the apples are our

05:09:26.300 souls and so on and so forth interesting ideas but i just i've always really seen it as that

05:09:32.940 the the cultivation of light the cultivation of sound the primordial greatness of the heavenly

05:09:38.380 realm and how it's ordered along with time and the creation of new life and souls from yggdrasil

05:09:45.340 that drip into urds well and everything descending from there and i speak about that all the time

05:09:51.180 but um other thing is is that i think the kidnapping is a really huge part of um

05:09:59.500 our Aryan mythos everywhere. The idea of the outsider coming in and taking the heart or taking

05:10:08.980 the soul of something and running off with it. And it's incumbent upon us to go and get it back.

05:10:15.820 And that could be applied to Irish myths, whether you're hemorrhaged as, you know,

05:10:21.240 chieftains and tribes. You can see it all across even into India. So there's a lot of like

05:10:29.120 pan-arianism that I love in those stories as well. Absolutely. Yeah. So this is a good one

05:10:42.120 to end on, and I don't think it's grim. I think it's introspective, and I think that's important.

05:10:47.760 So Svon, I want you to hit this first. I'd like to close on my answer with it. I don't mean for

05:10:54.220 this to be grim but you say you never escaped the fear of death so I want to ask as you get older

05:11:01.100 do you fear death more or are you more accepting of it than when you were younger

05:11:07.120 and I didn't take this as objective I took this as like us specifically

05:11:15.180 so

05:11:17.280 Svon do you fear death

05:11:20.540 more the older you get

05:11:22.440 or less and why

05:11:24.540 I think that I

05:11:26.560 fear

05:11:27.240 loss

05:11:29.520 more

05:11:32.220 as I am older than when I was

05:11:34.620 younger so

05:11:36.220 I

05:11:38.040 don't want to lose my

05:11:40.540 my connection to the people

05:11:42.500 I love here to the things I'm

05:11:44.520 trying to do i don't want to lose the chance to do those things but i also understand that

05:11:54.040 the way that everything goes out and about we don't get the chance to kind of

05:11:59.480 choose those things so you have to make best with what you have so i would say when i was younger

05:12:04.840 i didn't fear loss i was in the thick of it bullets whizzing overhead riding around like

05:12:13.640 mad max in the desert and was an absolute nut nutso kid like just i think back on it now and i'm like

05:12:22.680 if i had gotten zinged by some bullet or shrapnel back then what would i have i would have lost so 0.56

05:12:32.360 much that i have gained through my life and really what that is i'm not afraid of death i'm just

05:12:36.680 i guess attached to the the things that the love that i have the children the the even the future

05:12:46.020 that we have the possibility of i want to see grandchildren and all of those things that's the

05:12:51.260 only thing i um lament in the in death and the loss of that um and i feel like i just didn't

05:13:01.860 have that attachment when i was younger i was oblivious and kind of asinine about a lot of

05:13:07.700 things so i don't know if that's fear of death or fear of loss which i think might be two different

05:13:16.480 things i think it's all relative i mean

05:13:18.720 are all relevant i guess it's part of what i'm saying i'm getting loopy and tired but looking

05:13:25.360 on this question, I definitely look at it really differently the older I get.

05:13:55.360 And in a way, I think earlier when I was younger, death was terrifying because I hadn't gotten to experience life yet. I felt like I hadn't gotten a chance at things. So the idea of not getting a chance due to death was really scary.

05:14:25.360 And personally, I feel like I have accomplished things in my life to be proud of and to leave a legacy with.

05:14:41.640 and that makes me feel better about it really specifically the fact that I have my daughter

05:14:51.320 and that I know that something will outlive me into the future something you know of me

05:14:59.900 one of my descendants will live into the future and I mean I imagine you hedge these bets the

05:15:08.800 more you have of like all right cool it's more secured it's whatever but the difference between

05:15:14.640 I will have no offspring and my line of descendancy will die with me or I have some

05:15:23.300 offspring and that is likely not going to die with me is very is a comfort and is is important

05:15:34.360 to me and that and I've thought about that a lot just on stuff like planes are scary to me

05:15:41.920 they weren't when I was younger I travel a lot it's not debilitating but I start overthinking

05:15:49.260 that planes are scary and so I think about death when I'm on planes and that's one of the you know

05:15:54.840 that's those moments where I take stock of stuff and yeah um Aubrey

05:16:01.020 and and because i've thought about this in different contexts yeah but what if she's

05:16:06.780 on the plane with me the fact that that goal occurred

05:16:13.500 gives me a certain amount of peace of mind the further thought that she will carry on

05:16:21.180 the line of my ancestors directly from me into the future the more likely that is

05:16:29.020 that's also a different layer of comfort but the thing that is progressively scary is i become very

05:16:38.940 aware of the lack of time in the future when you're young you know you your whole life's ahead

05:16:45.660 of you like now i'm young i have plenty of time you reach a point at like 40 and it sounds

05:16:52.460 so stereotypical but it absolutely hit me exactly then like wow no i don't i don't have that much

05:17:00.460 time i'm now thinking in terms of decades i can remember something i did something i forget what

05:17:08.060 it was i started watching something that i had stopped watching 20 years ago something to where

05:17:16.780 there's a gap of two decades and i remember right where i picked up you know where i left off

05:17:21.980 and like i remember it i remember things that don't seem long ago that were two decades ago

05:17:30.780 i'm like man it means it's not that long until you know see because this month here next next week

05:17:42.780 next week i think i'm turning 43 got a math again you guys caught me when it's late

05:17:48.780 so anyways i'm like yeah next week so uh

05:17:58.300 yeah that means that 63 isn't that far away if 23 wasn't that far away then 63 is not that far away

05:18:06.700 you know i don't i start looking at stuff i'm i've got so many things that i want to accomplish

05:18:14.460 um and i don't know how far i can

05:18:22.860 the gods have entrusted me with a really special responsibility and i want to do the absolute most

05:18:36.760 with it that i possibly can i want to build this

05:18:49.800 i don't say this to sound self-important and i feel really self-conscious of saying it

05:18:55.640 but i want to build this so secure and so with such momentum going forward

05:19:07.080 that it isn't you know one guy or one mistake away from crumbling and that it's sustainable

05:19:17.960 and that the path is easier for whoever follows me and that

05:19:25.640 also true is in a safe and secure place like i want to

05:19:29.800 i want to change i want to move ausatru from

05:19:40.120 i don't even know what you'd call it but into

05:19:44.680 an institution that's eternal and that's grandiose to think myself capable of doing but i want to

05:19:53.880 move it as close to that as i can with the time that i have and so i start looking at how much

05:20:02.280 time i have left and being i don't know um really hyper aware of i need to accomplish more and

05:20:14.280 faster and pick up the pace and make sure stuff happens and not wait on things i'm very aware of

05:20:20.840 that i'm also logically aware that my ambition for alsatru is always going to outpace

05:20:30.440 you know how the world moves there's always going to be more stuff i want to do and more

05:20:35.240 stuff i want to accomplish so i don't think i'll ever be able to outrun that

05:20:41.000 but i want to move this forward as far as i can possibly do in my lifetime

05:20:50.840 and accomplish as much as i possibly can for our gods and also for my reputation for my family

05:20:59.960 with the time that i have and i'm very aware now that you know not young anymore so

05:21:08.520 fear death differently i would say as i get older i don't fear it as much because i still

05:21:18.360 conceive it and project it in the future i think i felt it more when i was worried that large

05:21:25.240 portions of my life would be robbed from me if something happened i would still feel that way now

05:21:32.600 but now maybe they'd rob 40 years from me instead of 60 years from me and i think the closer and

05:21:41.720 the older i get i may have the fear of being cheated potential life span more but yeah i

05:21:53.480 think i think you experience differently i don't know if there's a clean answer to the question

05:21:58.200 but that was a lot so hopefully that made sense to folks thank you guys so much for being with

05:22:05.560 us tonight thank you for all of the amazing questions apologize that i had to call a stop

05:22:10.760 to it but i'm getting very sleepy and uh spawn as three hours you know further into the future than

05:22:20.040 i am uh but no i appreciate you guys uh i'm really glad to be able to introduce the trulamo to you

05:22:30.680 guys um and get an additional chance to proofread uh probably tomorrow morning when i'm thinking

05:22:39.640 clearer i'm gonna go in and edit all those many little edits i was noting uh to nick about um

05:22:48.120 got a special treat for you next week and we're looking on doing this a little we're gonna go

05:22:53.240 through all of our hoff districts and do kind of an episode on the character and history and just

05:23:02.760 district specific episodes so people can get an idea of what that looks like in different parts

05:23:08.920 of the country what parts of the world but functionally most of it happens within the

05:23:13.880 united states so but outside of just the hof the whole district we're going to try to have as many

05:23:20.680 oath members of uh leadership in those districts on as we can for those episodes never going to

05:23:27.240 get everybody um everybody's schedule just doesn't quite make that a reality but we're going to do

05:23:33.160 that going forward a little bit i'm not sure if they're going to be yeah we're going to do until

05:23:38.840 they get done i don't know exactly when we're doing what but that's my plan so a week from

05:23:44.440 today we'll be having odenshoff leadership on to talk about odenshoff district and then

05:23:52.440 spawn and i will return in two weeks i'm trying to think of what we're on um

05:24:06.120 lay of hymere okay so yeah we'll be talking about that i'm sure spawn will have lots to say

05:24:15.320 due to his artistic uh callback to it so uh yeah look forward to talking to you guys again next

05:24:24.360 week thank you guys so much remember if you can come on and join me at sigger bloat 2 at sigger

05:24:34.040 high it's going to be fantastic nick and myself will be there it'll be amazing it's a truly

05:24:39.560 special and magical place we would love to have you all there and uh yeah until next week

05:24:47.480 hail the isir hail the folk hail the afa remember victory never sleeps good night everyone

05:25:09.560 We'll be right back.

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Asatru Folk Assembly - July 04, 2024

7⧸3⧸24 Victory Never Sleeps, Episode 104 - Ásatrú Trúlögmál, Part 2

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