In this episode, we discuss the AFA's recent release of The Austro Trulamal, a document that lays out the core beliefs and principles of the organization. This document is meant to be expressed in the simplest terms, in the most straightforward way, to members who are curious and interested in what we believe.
00:09:20.300when you said it i was like oh i still gotta get mine up so everybody take a look at your
00:09:25.340computer screen and point a disapproving finger it's written fun you may not feel it through the
00:09:32.300ether his july his july virginia event is not up there yet but you heard it here folks he is gonna
00:09:39.420fix that so refresh your your page soon and that should be up there somewhere yeah i would even
00:09:47.180say it too um i i'm shooting for the third weekend um trying to go up to the devil's marble yard
00:09:53.900in itself south of lynchburg um like for a hike moot so it's gonna be hot and we're gonna be
00:10:00.540walking but it's going to be there i promise when i made the initial comment it was not targeting
00:10:06.620spawn oh no but my guilt just let it do so so anyways there's that i mentioned earlier about the
00:10:16.540you know esoteric evolution of those two projects so people don't know um our next big thing that
00:10:25.180we are trying to accomplish is getting a hoth for lord frayer in order to do that there was a couple
00:10:31.820of different steps so stuff's tricky because it's really exciting and energizing to raise money for
00:10:46.940something you don't have it is less so when you are trying to raise money for something that you
00:10:53.260already have, but you need to all the way have. Until we pay off the debt that we've incurred on
00:11:01.100it, we don't really own it. Most of the way own it. And that's for New York's Hoff. So
00:11:06.460we purchased New York's Hoff in August of 2022 and not quite two years into it.
00:11:18.960And that was our most expensive Hoff we've ever gotten. So that's $245,000 worth of Hoff.
00:11:28.740Only two years in, slightly less, only 23 months in, we are already 65.7% paid off of that. And
00:11:38.920that's because of, I mean, in certain ways, that's because of the blessings of our gods,
00:11:45.920but in in many very practical ways it's because of the generosity of you folk and i appreciate that
00:11:51.440so much um matter of fact as we often start out as we nearly always start out this program
00:12:01.440uh ronald blake has donated 45 towards paying off new york's off and it's much appreciated
00:12:09.920He has also donated $50 towards the steeple at Baldur's Hoff, also much appreciated.
00:12:17.360But yeah, on the New York's Hoff deal, point being, we had two different loans we had to
00:12:22.080take out to make the Hoff happen. We've paid off one of those. We have, you know, what is it? 36.3%.
00:12:32.800we still need to pay off. And once we're done with that, then we're, you know, moving ahead
00:12:41.440with Frazhoff. Frazhoff is going to be in either Eastern Ohio or Western Pennsylvania, and likely
00:12:51.020the Northern portion of either of those states that we talked about. So we're looking, you know,
00:12:58.700we're looking at it all the time. We're excited. We just got to pay off New York's off before we
00:13:02.140get there and we're well on our way. So money that goes towards, you know, either the Frey's
00:13:07.420Hoff Fund or the New York's Hoff Fund right now, that's where it goes. It's paying off New York's
00:13:11.540Hoff. So that's step one. Yeah. So go to that donate link if you're interested. It's got other
00:13:19.620stuff you can donate to there as well. You can buy us a coffee or whatever the kids do at that
00:13:27.140thingy and the directions on that are in the description of this video yeah appreciate you
00:13:33.180guys generosity also please make sure wherever you are consuming this because you can watch it
00:13:38.140a bunch of places now and ask questions you can also listen to it a bunch of places come friday
00:13:42.520like share subscribe uh some of the avenues of getting the message out are not available to us
00:13:52.200due to the political climate we find ourselves in.
00:13:57.320Until and once that's better, but specifically until then, word of mouth is huge.
00:14:05.040One of the biggest things, you just run the numbers, all the people that should be here versus the people we already have.
00:14:11.220Biggest hurdle we have is so many people don't know about us and don't know we exist.
00:14:16.320so the more you guys can spread the word um the more of our folk we can bring home
00:14:23.520also kind of side note if you're listening to this or you're watching it
00:14:27.840and it resonates with you it is something that that is meaningful to you consider joining
00:14:34.000assuming you are a heterosexual white person we would we would love to have you join us and be
00:14:40.320part of what we're doing so yeah give that some thought if you're interested in joining
00:14:44.960links also on the runestone.org site. Last but certainly not least on taking care of business
00:14:55.640at the beginning of the program here, in just two and a half short weeks, July 19th through the 21st,
00:15:06.800we have Sigur Bloat at Sigurheim. This is the second Sigur Bloat at Sigurheim, the second annual.
00:15:14.960It is an amazing property. It is going to be the future headquarters of the Astro Folk Assembly. It's where many of us are going to move our families to and build a community around. It's where we're going to build a great hall. It's where we are going to erect a hof to Lord Teer.
00:15:34.220It is where we already have two amazing statues as tribute to our founder and his wife for all that they have done to make this happen and bring us to where we are.
00:15:46.760Please come join me and check that out here at July 19th through the 21st.
00:33:00.960Healing was desperately needed, and in 1862 the folk began to wake.
00:33:07.980Inspired by All-Father Oven, Maestro Guido von List took up again the runes of power and made the first steps to awaken our folk to their ancestral gods, the Aesir.
00:33:26.440Now do I see the earth anew, rise all green from the waves again.
00:33:34.140The cataracts fall and the eagle flies.
00:33:37.980And fish he catches beneath the cliffs.
00:33:42.160The gods in either bowl meet together.
00:33:45.940Of the terrible girdler of earth they talk.
00:36:21.900Mr. McNallan chose to dissolve the Ausatru Free Assembly
00:36:25.0201987. Odin had more to teach his chosen herald. For the next seven years, Stephen McNallan grew
00:36:33.580rich with experience and wise in the ways of the world, traveling the war-torn corners of Midgard,
00:36:40.860reflecting on the needs of his folk, upon their soul sickness, and how to make his people whole.
00:36:47.660In 1994, Stephen McNallan returned wiser, revitalized, matured, burning with inspiration, and resolute in purpose.
00:37:03.520He had come to the certain knowledge that Alcetrua must come together, united in might and main, in troth to the ISEA.
00:37:17.660Oh, my goodness. All right. So, while doing that, Lauren Anderson donated $500 to the Odenshof fund. Thank you so much. I will absolutely let those folks know this entitles you to get your name on the plaque at Odenshof.
00:37:44.160and we will get that set up there as well.
00:37:47.400We really, really appreciate your generosity.
00:42:00.960Gothar are the priests of the Iser. Gothi is male. Githya is female.
00:42:08.280Othen established a special relationship with our founder.
00:42:13.420With that special relationship, Othen conferred spiritual authority and responsibility upon Stephen McNallan.
00:42:22.540This spiritual authority and responsibility, coupled with active participation in the sacred gift cycle, since 1968 is the foundation of our priesthood.
00:42:34.960all recognized gothar trace their ordination back to stephen mcnowlin and his relationship
00:42:42.560with all father odin established in 1968 gothic ordination confers spiritual authority upon the
00:42:52.860ordained this legitimate spiritual authority is bestowed from the iser by odin himself
00:43:01.480Asheryagothi. Asheryagothi is the high priest of the Aesir and the leader of the Gothar and the
00:43:14.880Ausatrufogasim. Ausatru was reforged by the vision and the effort of Stephen McNallan under
00:43:23.180the sacred guidance and inspiration of the king and father of the Aesir, Odin. The continued
00:43:30.420blessings of the Aesir flourish and prosper under the sacred authority of the Alsharir Gothi.
00:43:37.460Among other things, the Alsharir Gothi is responsible for leading the folk,
00:43:42.420directing the evolution and practice of Aesir, safeguarding the sacrality of the Aesir folk
00:43:49.140assembly and the Gothar, maintaining and strengthening the connection between the Aesir
00:43:54.900and the folk, and faithfully serving and implementing the will of the Aesir.0.89
00:44:01.220The theocratic autocracy of the Ausheriagothi is fundamental to the Ausitufolk assembly.0.97
00:44:07.860It was initiated by Allfather Odin in the image of his own authority in Ausgarther,1.00
00:46:32.920One second, we send off a note to Nick.
00:46:36.180Oh, and I was going to comment too, just that folk have asked in the past, you know, what's going to happen, how is this going to happen is, you know, they had doubts and fears that the church itself would somehow be compromised.0.91
00:46:59.340But it's worth noting that the, you know, the theocratic autocracy is that in which the Algeria Gauthi is in the power to decree. There's not a council, there's not, or correction, sorry, there is a council, perhaps in the sense that there is a counseling of, you know, to ideas and things moving forward.
00:47:25.220but ultimately they're held in the al-siragoti's hands this isn't a democracy there isn't a
00:47:31.140congress things aren't caught up in um people trying to have power plays and trying to um
00:47:38.180you know levy for favors and so on and so forth no there's it's very much built on you know again
00:47:45.780merit and duty and then ultimately just uh the al-siragoti has the wisdom to have counselors
00:47:54.740that he can get their opinions on things and then move forward with his decisions.
00:48:00.740But it doesn't get mitigated in a lot of the, I guess, the rigmarole that I have seen
00:48:07.620in organizations that have attempted and have gone nowhere near close, but
00:48:13.780have left themselves to being torn apart by each other internally. And that does not happen.
00:48:21.780that initiation of the sacred to our founder and then also to our elsewhere now and we believe if
00:48:32.180and when there is a transference that will be also the creed um is uh is a is a very important part
00:48:41.860that i think differentiates us from say you know fly by night uh groups that have been in the past
00:48:48.260and so on so so part three living out so true also true is who we are and as such
00:48:58.640also true is expressed through our deeds we practice our religion at our hafs houses worship
00:49:07.140and during ritual certainly more than that we live our religion every day of our lives
00:49:15.000from the moment we rise each morning until we lay our heads to rest each evening.
00:49:20.800Beliefs, intentions, and ideals are worthless until they manifest into deeds.
00:50:30.820The family is the foundation of community.
00:50:33.880The coupling of a man and woman of our folk in sacred marriage, and the offspring their union produces, are the core of our noble folk.
00:50:46.280Loyalty to the Iser is essential to the health of the Ausatru family.
00:50:51.780Loyalty to kin is particularly integral to Ausatru as families share in Hymenae, a familial luck and reputation.
00:51:00.220the sum total of all hymenia is manifest as the woven tapestry of warlock
00:51:08.400oh may i step in on one thing you may i wanted to say i just saw something and i was thinking to
00:51:16.880myself um there's a part in here when we talk about the community and we talk about our relationship
00:51:22.540um or sorry it's in in the in the um introduction of living house truth
00:51:27.880this uh we practice our religion at our hafs houses of worship i can see people saying well
00:51:34.520are you saying that uh because you know if we do it at home or if we do it at a park we do it with
00:51:41.320kindreds you're not practicing the the relationship or the religion with the ice here and i i it
00:51:49.960strikes me because as this has come out a lot of people have kind of asked these questions
00:51:54.120and it's like there's nothing further from the truth of it is is that the reality is is that
00:52:01.360we practice our faith at our hops especially national events if you can make it out to them
00:52:06.220that's the one time you can absolutely um connect to your community even beyond your you know county
00:52:13.320or state um and you start to see you know a large group of people and these national events happen
00:52:20.360at our hoffs and you know we are i practice at home you know i practice or i you know i hold um
00:52:28.760you know bloats during some moots that are available to do that um but ultimately culminates
00:52:35.480to our hoffs we're not saying you can't or it's not legitimate if you do it at home if you pray
00:52:43.160to the gods at home um and i've seen people kind of ask these questions like that and again like
00:52:49.240what you had said in the beginning this is a thou shout not a thou shalt not it's a it's about
00:52:56.760positive so we talked about the soul sickness one of the soul sickness symptoms that's very
00:53:06.600self-evident is this hypersensitivity and i've noticed this manifest in a lot of different ways
00:53:19.240People that read into things, things that are clearly not stated, not there, and then infer an insult that doesn't exist, I want to laugh and make fun, but at a distance, it's just very sad.
00:53:43.680we have people that have been so very very weakened that we have trigger warnings and like
00:53:52.080nonsense because everyone is so quick to take offense i've had times where
00:53:57.840i talked about how much we value our families in the afa and then i've had people reach out
00:54:05.200who didn't have any children angry saying that the afa hates people that don't have kids
00:54:13.680It's not true at all. Every time I talk about fitness, we get some fatty over on the side
00:54:20.460wants to say, hey, AFA is mean to me. No, no, we're not. I celebrated something that was good.
00:54:28.920Every time we're in sumble and somebody raises a toast to men, generally,
00:54:34.560somebody's got to be like, girls are good too.0.85
00:54:37.200that comes from a place of weakness and that's part of the soul sickness we're trying to cure0.99
00:54:46.100saying one thing positive about someone or something that isn't your current experience
00:54:53.580isn't a stab at you it is a celebration of the ideal way to do things or something that we want
00:55:00.900to to celebrate in a perfect world of course you do stuff at your home but you would come together
00:55:08.620at hoffs and participate in ritual at our holy hoffs that's what we should do sometimes it's
00:55:16.460not available and so you make the best of what you have but a lot of the time that that knee
00:55:23.020jerk response is if somebody's attacking you or delegitimizing you i'm sad that people feel that
00:55:29.600way. I don't feel the AFA needs to defend ourselves against those charges, but
00:55:35.800I'm really sorry that people are in a state where that damages them. And honestly, this that we're
00:55:43.460doing here is my very best way I know how to try to heal the soul sickness that's in our fault,
00:55:50.140that that's part of. So hopefully if you come over here and you do this with us,
00:55:54.800that won't be the state that you find yourself years from now.
00:55:59.640And it won't be the state that your kids find themselves.
00:56:02.280And that's what we're trying to build.
00:57:35.580All other beings who are not our gods or our folk are not fundamentally our focus.
00:57:42.980Our interactions with other beings are dictated by circumstance and context.
00:57:48.440we share reality with a wide array of living things and there are nearly infinite possible
00:57:56.880scenarios of interaction with any number of these beings it is important that we live our values
00:58:04.860when we interact with all beings each of us represents all of us to those outside our circles
00:58:12.440It is our duty to build and maintain our reputation as a noble people, with noble gods, and to exemplify our nobility with the way in which we interact with others.
00:58:55.660cool this is a process i've we've been through this the fine tooth comb but there's always
00:59:02.680always something more to to hone and make better well um sure to interject a little bit there might
00:59:13.220be the usage of a word that folks are not familiar with yet because of depending on
00:59:18.820what level of understanding of the faith that they're at um you know you come into it new
00:59:26.120you might not have any family members you might not have been raised in the faith and um you're
00:59:32.300trying to learn a lot of stuff our ancestors were born into it and had a kind of innate sense as
00:59:38.540they lived their lives but for folks new to the faith and coming into it it's understandable
00:59:47.000you might not know all these words. One of them is Haminya. Haminya is mentioned both in
00:59:56.400the family and the folk within. Haminya is a part of your soul, but it is a part of your soul that
01:00:06.000you connect with other members of your family. It's also that which may be passed down from your
01:00:14.560predecessors and that which you give over to your descendants it is a malleable um
01:00:21.600form that kind of again rises and falls based on your deeds your notoriety or your
01:00:27.600reputation as it was mentioned before um making tangible efforts to build your notoriety and your
01:00:35.600and your reputation around people is important and this may help answer some other questions later but
01:00:44.560Things that detract from your, your humming, yeah, in essence, and I hate to use it, but I mean, it's the best way to kind of get people to focus on it is it's like a sense of luck, a sense of blessing or a sense of, of perhaps good things.
01:01:05.500if your haminya is well and good and seen as healthy, if it is seen as low, then perhaps you
01:01:13.200experience the opposite of luck. And oftentimes, folks have to fight through bad haminya. It's not
01:01:24.360an eternal doom, but it is something that requires us to perhaps even fight harder. And again, we
01:01:32.320don't believe in equality. It's some folks, you know, the people before them have taken great
01:01:39.200care in making sure that they're Haminha strong and they pass it down, you know, to their
01:01:47.360descendants. And perhaps even they having bad Haminha built themselves up to pass it on. And0.95
01:01:55.720sometimes the child has to, you know, deal with kind of both aspects of perhaps the generations
01:02:01.520before and their parents, but it is a part of the soul that grows or diminishes based on deeds and
01:02:10.880based on perhaps the results of deeds that are felt, you know, long beyond they've happened.
01:02:18.760And this happens with, say, you know, relatives or parents or grandparents who have done
01:02:25.280deeds that are really detracting from the value of the child's perhaps in their luck or what have
01:02:34.180you. Um, and it's kind of hard to pin down, but it's, it's something to keep in mind that
01:02:42.440when you start to change your life, when you start to take the deeds to make your life better,
01:02:49.700make yourself better work hard and go towards towards the gods and towards your ancestors and
01:02:55.860really re-healing even to the distant ancestors um you start on a process of building up your
01:03:02.660haminga the other thing is is and i think this is one i've witnessed far too much is when people
01:03:08.900take oaths when you take an oath you are laying your humming on the line and for you to not get
01:03:17.140clarity to that oath and for you to turn away from the the spoken word of of your intended deeds um
01:03:26.420you end up hurting that as well so oaths are not to be you know uh taken lightly they are
01:03:35.140quite literally attached to your soul and for you to take an oath and then turn on it
01:03:42.980is not good. It draws away. And it's kind of like I've always kind of akin to a balloon getting a
01:03:52.980small pinprick that allows the water to drain out. You may not feel it right away. And I think
01:04:00.060in a lot of ways, when people turn away from their oaths, they try to rectify or kind of construct
01:04:06.180and ideal that the reasoning why or what have you but over time and slowly but surely the aminya
01:04:13.700gets affected and the only way again that you can atone for that is through deeds and correction of
01:04:20.100those moving forward um but even then you might still have to deal with the repercussions of your
01:04:26.820actions like ripples you know once the rock is thrown it's kind of thrown so it's something that
01:04:33.780we take great care of and it comes it's really important when we speak about the folk within
01:04:39.860when we talk about friv and people throw that word around um perhaps to think of it simply as peace
01:04:46.740but really too it is it is reciprocal um effort to work together it's reciprocal effort to listen to
01:04:56.580your your folk within in the inner guard first especially if somebody in the outer guard is
01:05:02.500you know claiming something the first thing you need to do is look in the inner guard and figure
01:05:08.020things out before you just you know start uh lighting up the the the burn pyre or what have
01:05:15.860you um and i think that for people to better understand that that's directly connected to our
01:05:22.900soul and so it is a very very important part a component in a lot of the um ideological framing
01:05:30.340and trajectory of what we're trying to do. Before we continue, Ronald Boardman, one of our
01:05:39.640folk builders in New Hampshire, donated five coffees, which is $25. We appreciate you. We
01:05:48.180appreciate you very much. And as a bonus, and so I don't forget, he asked how I was able to
01:05:53.700get my tie so perfect for the little circle thing. He ended up right in the middle. That is a happy
01:06:00.320accident on one level if you will perhaps it is through right living and the mysteries of the
01:06:06.960rhido room when you start doing the right things right time synchronicities start occurring in
01:06:13.520beneficial ways but it didn't work out well i'm pleased with it tonight last uh episode you brought
01:06:20.880up um the tie game kind of getting upped and now i'm slowly starting to realize my beard is like
01:06:27.680hiding my um my trinity or tripartite knot as i would call it um it's not your beard it's just
01:06:35.680kind of the shadow from your light source i think if your light was angled different we'd be able
01:06:39.840to see it yeah i got just a basic under beard that's popping out yeah it's uh i'm definitely
01:06:49.120trying to up the game as well and keep in paces with my uh my fellow folk
01:07:03.200how's true ritual we formally interact with our ancestors with our folk
01:07:09.440and with the icr through ritual the most basic form of ritual
01:07:17.200are the devotional rites and prayers done in the home at home altars
01:07:22.960so for folks that read the first part of this and came to spawn with their concerns
01:07:29.020keep reading because we address your concerns uh rituals and so folks i promise you i wrote
01:07:37.940most of this so my stumbling over the reading there's no excuse for other than in the editing
01:07:44.220process different people have suggested little tweaks here and there that i think
01:07:48.600mess with, I guess, my natural flow on it. But I did write a great deal of this. Svan very
01:07:57.760specifically helped me with a lot of this, especially in the section talking about the
01:08:03.700gods and the goddesses. So he deserves a lot of credit for that. And we had other people help
01:08:09.140along the way, especially with editing. But as far as really putting in content, Svan was who I
01:08:15.440leaned on for that during this. Rituals at home or with a larger group generally include a shared
01:08:24.340meal. Sharing a meal is a fundamental act to build relationships. The gift cycle, the foundation of
01:08:33.700our true ritual, is the gift cycle. We exchange gifts with the Isir and we share with one another.
01:08:41.140The exchange of gifts builds relationships. Gifts are inherently unequal, as we are all inherently unequal. With all gifting, it is the thought, the intention, that counts.
01:08:56.560Offerings to the ancestors and to the Aesir can be physical, but the true gift is the intentional and emotional energy imbued into the gift.
01:09:08.760When gifting is done ritually, the power of the exchange is greater than the sum of the gifts exchanged.
01:13:00.060Plout staves were made like sprinkling brushes, with which the whole of the altars and the temple walls, both outside and inside, were sprinkled over, and also the people were sprinkled with the blood, but the flesh was boiled into savory meat for those present.
01:13:21.500The most fundamental group out of true ritual is bloat, offering, or sacrifice.0.99
01:13:32.020A bloat, in the most basic form, consists of the assembled folk giving an offering to one of the Aesir through the officiating of a Gothi,0.93
01:13:42.120and in return, the Gothi distributing blessings from one of the Aesir to the assembled folk.
01:13:48.180This ritual is most commonly performed in a circular formation, with all the movement in a sun-wise direction.
01:13:58.900The offering and blessings are typically given through intention-imbued mead.
01:15:04.060The sumble horn represents the well of shared hominia for those who sit in that sumble.
01:15:10.920When bright words are spoken over the horn, all in attendance are elevated.
01:15:16.840When ill words are spoken or sumble oaths broken, all participants are lessened.
01:15:24.520High sumble has three rounds of ritual toasting and drinking.
01:15:29.300Round one consists of toast to the Iser.
01:15:33.200Round two is for toasts to ancestors of the folk.0.98
01:15:38.940We only toast the dead during round two.
01:15:42.640Round three is the round of the heroes.
01:15:46.220It is a more free-form round where toasts are made to heroes, to friends, or perhaps to others present.
01:15:54.180Round three is also an auspicious time to make oaths, to boast of deeds accomplished, or victories won.
01:16:01.460Women of status served as hornbearers during high sumble, taking possession of the horn between each toast and offering the horn to the next participant.
01:16:12.320Waeltheo came in Hrothgar's queen observing the courtesies adorned in her gold she graciously
01:16:23.880saluted the men in a hall then handed the cup first to Hrothgar their homeland's guardian
01:16:30.680urging him to drink deep and enjoy it because he was dear to them and he drank it down like
01:16:36.620a warlord he was with festive cheer so the helming women went on her rounds a woman went on her
01:16:46.260rounds queenly and dignified decked out in rings offering the goblet to all ranks treating the
01:16:53.180household and the assembled true beowulf um i saw a question kind of pertaining to this section i
01:17:03.980wanted to address it. Because it's an interesting but short question. Chris Lucott asked,
01:17:14.060when we hold bloat, is it wrong or theologically incorrect to consider the mead or wine
01:17:22.580as transubstantiated into blood during the bloat? That is a super interesting question. I'm assuming
01:17:32.300that you're talking about the blood of the sacrifice or the sacrificial animal um it is
01:17:39.740worth noting that our ancestors spoke about the idea of uh a bread bloat i uh a i and i know it's
01:17:50.780kind of funny considering modern usage of the word uh bloating but uh or let's say you know an an ale
01:17:59.180blotar or um a bread blotar and of course do we also know that our ancestors gave uh weapons and
01:18:09.020items of value as well um and the mead is again a gift that gift has its its power in um perhaps it
01:18:20.620was brewed or perhaps it was even bought and utilized money that was that was there that gave
01:18:27.020it it's fehu or its value um but it got me thinking and one thing that i would say
01:18:36.700where you're not entirely wrong is that the need of inspiration comes from the first
01:18:44.860storyteller kvasir and that sprinkling upon the earth by the high priest of the gods
01:18:55.260his bedecking of the earth with that sprinkling is that anointment and the mead does have a
01:19:03.100uh a sense of symbolization of that that blood which is the need of inspiration gained through
01:19:10.860the trials of lord odin when he received the the the great boon from battle song gun loath in the
01:19:20.060mountain so um is it one for one no but does it have correlation or at least some substantiation
01:19:27.340to speak about and when i saw your question i was like yeah undoubtedly we need to we need
01:19:31.420to mention that so his his follow-up to it though was he said he only mentions it because you
01:19:37.660likened it to communion and i think it
01:19:40.620both consuming the host in christianity and bloat are forms of a communion i think it goes back to
01:19:57.100the root word of communion communion as a catholic ritual is similar that they're all sharing
01:20:06.860something and consumption is involved in the sharing but in a very strange
01:20:19.420ritualized cannibalism thing that's very odd
01:20:27.840believe it or not I tried to put that as not insulting as I can but that's an element that's
01:20:36.000extremely different we are communing with our gods and our folk in the sense that we are sharing the
01:20:42.600meal um one of the so it's fun make to your point
01:20:51.040if you want to in your mind picture the meat is representing blood in some kind of way to
01:21:07.060bring you closer the AFA has no fatwa against you thinking that
01:21:12.880But you don't need to, and the fact that you think you need to creates, I think, the bigger divergence.
01:21:28.480No, ritually, the mead that we are using is not transformed into the blood of a hog or a horse or whatever the case might be.
01:21:38.940for you to think that's necessary is for you to allow Abrahamic conditioning to affect how you
01:21:51.540relate to our gods. That is less than ideal. If that's kind of a stepping stone, you need to
01:21:58.940understand it better. I'm not telling you, you can't, but it's not that. And I think that when
01:22:05.600we this is one of i this goes into a larger argument when you are larping something when
01:22:14.640anything you do is pretend you are adding a element and even if it's a very small element
01:22:23.200please don't project something bigger to what i'm saying but when you add any element of
01:22:33.520it's not a lie but it is less genuine than the open sharing I would think the best with our gods
01:22:48.540When any element is fanciful or pretend or there's that taint to it, that's one step further away from our gods that you are able to get during that ritual.
01:23:05.440our gods know that it's not blood you know that it's not blood to pretend that it's blood
01:23:14.560adds a silliness that doesn't need need to be there
01:23:18.880and the reason that it's important in a catholic communion is not relevant to this process
01:23:29.020that ritual wasn't about a group of jews sharing a meal it was very much about consuming the essence
01:23:40.840of their god-made flesh in a unique way that's not what we're doing in bloat
01:23:53.060But the communal aspect of it is as a community, we are sharing something with our gods.
01:24:02.080So the meal that is formed from the animal sacrifice goes to our gods.
01:24:07.460Now, there is something cool about an animal bloat that's different with the common bloat of mead.
01:24:19.420And I'm not saying that that's not the situation.
01:24:23.060When you are placing something on something living, and then that immediately is transferred beyond the veil into the land of the dead, that's special in its own way.
01:24:35.640As Fawn points out, there was ale bloats and bread bloats, an offering of many things.
01:24:42.560When you go back into the word bloat, it doesn't one for one go to blood like I thought it did.
01:24:49.520When I was researching this document to go back in the Indo-European, I think it'd be ignorant to say there wasn't some connection at some point linguistically, but it wasn't bloat equals blood. It equals sacrifice.
01:25:03.040so it was much more about the offering than it was about the blood in particular the blood was
01:25:10.000an element when an animal was involved but the other thing that makes it very dissimilar to
01:25:16.380different types of sacrifices that other religions might do
01:25:24.580the animals shared as a communal feast bringing the folk and the gods and the ancestors together
01:25:33.020to eat together. And that's why at the beginning of this section, the sharing of a meal together
01:25:39.260is what brings families together. It's what builds bonds and relationship. We have a hall culture
01:25:46.580all about feasting together, communally. Even in the secular age that we live in, it is still the
01:25:54.380most common, wholesome thing in American culture, and I would imagine other culture as well.
01:26:00.940for a family to get around a table and share a meal together or to invite a guest to come
01:26:06.820eat at their table. That's a fundamental to building relationships. And it is the basis
01:26:12.680and the fundamental to our, our ritual structure.
01:26:21.140Well, I was, uh, just to open up one slight thing that may be coming about if you're new
01:26:28.160to Ausatru and people ask you, are you giving, you know, sacrifices of animals and so on and so
01:26:34.740forth. Our ancestors certainly did. Some folk now today do this, but again, it is on that caveat
01:26:41.400that you're sharing a community meal. So it's sacral butchering to feed many folk and to do
01:26:52.020this so i you know i've been at members homes that own uh livestock and they commit to this
01:26:59.220and they um you know they have you know uh luckily like to preside and to to go over these things
01:27:08.380um and to share that but again it is not the entirety of all gifts many gifts and and bloats
01:27:16.320come in many forms so you know and there are there are uh bloats or um perhaps gifting cycles that
01:27:24.240you know we we don't do anymore and i would say that's kind of like again looking at um
01:27:30.080uh especially like captured uh enemies uh you know you see this a lot in the lore um
01:27:37.680but at the same time it's not the entirety and yeah it's we don't convolute the idea that
01:27:43.600need is blood or or that uh vice versa everything is the gift that it is the general idea is that
01:27:50.640the gift is imbued with the might of the folks surrounded and it is um in essence
01:27:58.400there is a deficiency by removing the gift and then transferring the gift um at a cost
01:28:06.720that cost is you know whether it's uh like for a lot of folks um you know traveling great distances
01:28:13.600spending money to get there they meet they share community with their folk that is
01:28:20.800part of what goes into the horn there's a coalescence of sacrifice happening
01:28:28.400all the way from the moment you leave your door to the moment you touch the horn and
01:28:34.400what comes out of that is the bonds and the community that you have with the gods and with
01:34:01.520Thus he, Othin, established by law that all dead men should be burned, and their belongings laid with them upon the pile, and the ashes be cast into the sea or buried in the earth.0.66
01:34:16.480Thus said he, everyone will come to Valhalla with the riches he had with him upon the pile, and he would also enjoy whatever he himself had buried in the earth.
01:34:28.520For men of consequence, a mound should be raised to their memory, and for all other warriors who had been distinguished, for manhood, a standing stone.
01:34:40.680Which custom remained long after Odin's time, in Lingasaga.
01:34:48.800A son is better, though late he be born, and his father to death have fared.
01:34:56.720Memory stones seldom stand by the road, save when kinsman honors his kin.
01:36:05.440That said, there is always opportunity for one's worth to increase, even after death.
01:36:11.560One way to aid a soul's ascension is to build their fame through sprinkling of their, I'm sorry, build their fame through speaking of their deeds and through doing deeds in their honor.
01:36:26.260At the funeral, we raise toasts, we tell stories, we remember.
01:36:31.580There's the duty of the living to remember the dead and celebrate the memory of the worthy.
01:36:40.900kind of commenting here on um some of the comments going on on the side not questions but
01:36:49.060uh again is one of those kind of clear correlations where you see how um baptismal
01:36:58.660um from the bible is kind of converted into or like synthesizing with an already established
01:37:05.940tradition of the sprinkling of the child. And so, you know, that's why you see some denominations
01:37:12.000that they don't believe that the sprinkling of the child is correct, that it should be done in
01:37:16.480a later date or age. Whereas, you know, the sprinkling of the child, and I saw somebody
01:37:25.120mentioned, you know, if you think about a lot of the traditions that the Abrahamic faiths have in
01:37:30.280west most of them got it from the predecessing faith uh that was in um europe so and that's us
01:37:39.560um the other thing is is that i think the one of the things that moved me the most when i was
01:37:47.320initially um coming into the also true folk assembly was not only the determination the
01:37:53.320dogged determination to make places where our folk could gather together to honor the gods
01:38:00.280uh but also the the extreme determination to make a place for our folk to have those ashes laid
01:38:11.000in a place where they would be continuously honored and and respected and that there is
01:38:17.320there is a gift cycle to them as well on at the hoffs and that cannot be understated that's one
01:38:25.720of the reasons why the hoffs have come into existence and i remember from the from the onset
01:38:30.600i was here ago that you uh were very very determined to make this point and even when
01:38:37.720we found a grave at thor's hoff from a pre the pre-existing um you know the the stone was in
01:38:45.320dereliction it was broken it was half buried we un we we dug it up we cleaned it off we tried to
01:38:53.640determine the best that we could through the knowledge that we had finding out the the person's
01:38:58.600name and also that his his wife is buried across the street in the cemetery so there's no knowing
01:39:04.680why only one body was placed there and then moved perhaps because of land issues or what have you
01:39:11.080but that we built a a gravestone and honored him um even though it clearly says he's a christian
01:39:19.240we didn't place anything of our faith other than the life rune and the death rune but we spoke of
01:39:24.440on this land you will be honored and you will be remembered which is far more than what
01:39:31.160the predecessing um you know uh spoke the christians that were there and i think that's because
01:39:38.840it really is an isolation of the soul the caveat is is between you and yahweh and if you broke the
01:39:45.720the covenant then you got your problems and if you didn't then you're all good but anything beyond
01:39:50.000that is uh nigh close to you know what they consider you know devil worship or demon worship
01:39:56.240but for us honoring the dead is hugely important even for the folks that are the folk that's buried
01:40:04.660there before um that isn't even of our faith so that was a huge part and i i don't know if people
01:40:12.280miss it. Perhaps it's not, you know, emphasized a lot, but now having sacred burial ground at
01:40:19.280Odinshof, sacred burial ground at Njörðshof, at Thorshof, we still have only one, and that's
01:40:27.300kind of a sad story why. We would have had one of our own folk there if they had committed to the
01:40:33.780will that they wanted that to happen. So it is really important that make sure folks, you, you
01:40:41.580know our faith now has a place for you to rest you should come home you should get work towards being
01:40:50.380better being stronger being noble and as you live your life and build your community you can know
01:40:57.260that one when you're when you're older when you're an elder you will be honored respected and people
01:41:03.660will consider your welfare and being i think that's another thing i've noticed in some of the
01:41:08.660more perhaps fly by night or the social club kind of internet as a true folks is um they don't have
01:41:17.560a substantiated place to to lay the dead and they don't have a welfare and being for their elders
01:41:24.040very rarely do they have elders um and just as important for for us to have children present
01:41:32.020and doing things and learning the ways of our folk is that there's also the end of life um
01:41:38.160processes and uh we have that and we've had that under the guidance of alzheimer go the and the
01:41:46.340again the dogged determination to make sure that it happens and i don't think people um truly
01:41:53.360appreciate that if you will so driving that home a little bit more
01:42:00.580no i it's we have people just this last weekend out repairing graves at sigerheim
01:47:26.100no i just i just got to um the uh death and the afterlife section which is kind of
01:47:34.580something we promised at the beginning of the program right and is going to address
01:47:41.300some of and you know spawn i hope you've been able to keep track of any statements of clarification
01:47:47.140on the side about the reincarnation bit so section four beyond the veil we know that life continues
01:47:57.700after physical death occurs death is a process and a journey towards the next destination
01:48:06.340the process involves the destruction of the physical and the coalescing of the essential0.98
01:48:14.020our ancestors and the icr judge us throughout our lives and their judgment determines what happens0.98
01:48:22.980to us when we die. The following is where our folk find themselves after death. Special instances0.99
01:48:31.140or circumstances may occur according to the will and power of the Aesir. Halls of the Ancestors.
01:48:42.120Most of our folk will go to the halls of their ancestors. If deemed worthy, our folk are welcomed
01:48:51.060into their ancestral halls to celebrate and be reunited with their loved ones as ancestors the
01:48:59.660folk will look on and help to guide their descendants those who have lived exceptional
01:49:08.600lives and built mighty hymenia have become or may become alfar and desir ascension
01:49:18.360What kind of dream is it, said Odin, in which, just before daybreak, I thought I cleared Valhall for coming of slain men?
01:49:31.360I waked the Einherjar, bade Valkyries rise up and strew the bench, and scour the beakers, wine to carry, as for a king's coming.
01:49:41.540here to me i expect heroes coming from the world certain great ones so glad is my heart
01:49:51.780eric smile if the icr judge someone worthy they may elevate them to a higher form of existence
01:50:00.100This may take many forms, but most often is described as a soul going to the halls of the Aesir, such as the Einherjar feasting in Baal Hall.
01:50:15.280The principle is that the deceased becomes more than they were as a mortal human, and becomes closer in relationship and in essence to the Aesir.
01:50:25.760This process can occur at the moment of death or any time after death, according to the will of the Aesir.
01:50:36.500I need to make a note to Nick, if you will.
01:50:50.200And I have been keeping track of kind of some of the questions.
01:50:55.000i will say i think we should include the section about um disillusion before we uh proceed with
01:51:01.400the entirety of the that subject which you know i think it's pretty obvious why i think a lot of
01:51:08.680folks are very concerned about the afterlife and what what goes on about that but some of the
01:51:16.360processes i think are far too uh complicated that they break the express mission of this um
01:51:26.600this document and so that's why i think we're there is a lot of confusion and why i'm really
01:51:33.080really glad we're you know going through with this i think the brevity of the document is so good
01:51:39.160that the benefits outweigh the consequences but one of the consequences is that there are some more
01:51:44.680intricate things that we could go on and on about but that would then nullify the purpose of the
01:51:53.480document absolutely so disillusion a hall i saw far from the sun when nostron it stands
01:52:08.680and the doors face north venom drops through the smoke vent down
01:52:14.680for around the walls do serpents wind i saw there wading through rivers wild
01:52:21.320treacherous men and murderers too and workers of ill with the wives of men0.88
01:52:27.400their nidhogger malice striker sucked the blood of the slain and the wolf tore men0.76
01:52:36.280would you know yet more below spout 38 through 39 if the soul of the deceased is rejected by0.83
01:52:44.680their ancestors and rejected by the iser that soul is dissolved and recycled this complete
01:52:54.520disillusion of the soul occurs when the soul is found without worth and its continued existence
01:53:00.920is a harmful disgrace to the Aesir and to our folk.
01:53:05.940This disillusion occurs on Nostrand, Corpse Shore.0.95
01:53:12.820Now the sayings of the High One are uttered in the hall for the weal of men,1.00
01:54:25.140I mean, people have, I don't know where this person's coming from or how heavily invested they are in the concept.
01:54:42.560But if you believe something for a large part of your life and it's a core value to you, it's easy to come in hot when you feel that it's being challenged or contradicted.
01:54:53.140I see over in the side kind of a bit of qualification that I feel like maybe we should mention.
01:55:01.380I'd like to clarify, I do not believe in a unitary or indivisible soul,
01:55:08.320but I do believe that transmigration of the parts of the soul, including the consciousness.
01:58:14.040we communicate with our dead loved ones at our altar we make offerings we interact with them
01:58:21.960that they full know who we are and accept our offerings and have their
01:58:29.160integral parts of who they are with them or else they're not them
01:58:36.280that person exists beyond the veil if you name your child after that person
01:58:44.280that person is not ripped from beyond the veil and then reborn in your child
01:58:51.940but poorly wiped of its system to where it sort of remembers a couple of things
01:59:00.040and has a couple of quirks to it but otherwise doesn't have any of the stuff that made it who
01:59:06.460was that's just not true if it is true it is certainly not true in the vast majority of cases
01:59:17.980it just isn't um and there's no expression in our lore of a widely accepted understanding that
01:59:29.500that that's the case the one-for-one reincarnation like ah this is this person reborn
01:59:38.540to say that it is nowhere in any of the sagas is not true but if that were true
01:59:46.940it would be everywhere because why wouldn't it be when you mark your lineage from great kings
01:59:55.340descended from odin why would the heroes and you know local jarls and political figures
02:00:04.700not claim to be any of these great heroes of the past reborn but you don't see any of that
02:00:12.860you don't see in the official chronicling of kings by their by their um their heralds or the
02:00:21.740scalds under their employ saying that oh this guy is this other even bigger guy reborn
02:00:29.660certainly you would have that because you have political poems that are absolutely done
02:00:36.140to elevate a king's standing you see that constantly you see the interplay of that
02:00:41.820a lot in the ale saga none of those shape out that way because it wasn't a commonly understood thing
02:00:50.600There were a few very exceptional circumstances where somebody mentions that might happen.
02:00:56.540And as I put as a caveat in there, I'm not saying that could not possibly happen.
02:01:02.800Certainly, if our gods decided to make that happen through all of their might as gods, they could do that.
02:01:12.400but we don't see that as a regular truth that exists and is relevant to most people to lots
02:01:21.940of people we only see that in these very very rare exceptions and still it's not like a universally
02:01:29.960agreed upon thing it's a thing that some of that person's kinfolk say ah this is you know so and
02:01:37.220so reborn they're just like them and they may have a shared memory they may have a thing so
02:01:41.980So one may ask, you know, well, but what about the idea of naming your children after a deceased loved one so that they can reincarnate within the bloodline?
02:01:59.320so what we do think is really important all of the pieces of your soul complex that are necessary
02:02:06.840for your existence in midgard are not necessary for your existence beyond the veil pieces of those
02:02:15.080and elements of who you are that are not finite can be shared or bequeathed to your loved ones
02:02:24.200through the natural connection of our souls that is heightened by the you know you are submitting
02:02:33.400that request by naming one of your offspring after a deceased ancestor you are reaching out
02:02:41.720to them in the hopes that some of their skill some of their personality some of their memory
02:02:49.000some of their character some of their luck their hymenia can be inherited by that offspring
02:03:00.440that we absolutely do believe is the case
02:03:07.480for example i named my daughter after my grandfather she is not my grandfather
02:03:16.200I don't address her as my grandfather it also when you actually try to live it out it becomes
02:03:24.720it seems silly and I don't do that to make fun it's just that when you try to work out the details
02:03:31.740on it as one for one it becomes very odd um you know I don't sit my daughter in a chair and then
02:03:39.300make prayers and offerings to her as a way to communicate with my grandpa no I do that at my
02:03:45.180altar. And I absolutely believe that he hears them and accepts them. He doesn't exist in two
02:03:52.020places at once. That's not anything that our lore or our understanding of the traditions of our
02:03:59.280ancestors indicate to us. So the logic really doesn't bear out when you try to bring it that
02:04:07.100way. And I know that in us true circles in modern times, reincarnation is talked about a lot as if
02:04:14.300it's just something that ah the norse believed in that but where show me because i don't see that
02:04:20.780other than a few very very select issues in the sagas i can think of um maybe three of like
02:04:34.940fairly minor persons being having that suggestion made in other cultures where that is
02:04:44.220the belief of that culture we see it very prominent in hinduism you see that very prominently
02:04:53.740because they do believe that in the understanding of um the buddhists especially as as they talk
02:05:03.180about um i think that soul i think the soul choosing to come back as a full reincarnation
02:05:10.540is the bodhisattva you see that as a thing you see the dalai lama being a one-for-one reincarnation
02:05:21.180situation other cultures that genuinely believe that that is so much of the point of egyptian
02:05:29.180paganism to where pharaoh is raw and the pharaoh at the same time inhabiting the same body but that
02:05:37.020reincarnation is there and that's a big part of the pharaoh's legitimacy you don't see that in
02:05:44.460european paganism you don't very often you certainly don't see that with kings and heroes
02:05:51.580and people that you would think that would happen with so that's kind of my spiel about it it's fun
02:05:59.100what do you what do you have to to add to that well i would say um
02:06:08.780again what you what you have said first and foremost i think it's important
02:06:14.060with the way that the question was worded at first seemed like it was like the need for us
02:06:21.180to be rejecting it like it was kind of like an aha moment or you know this is the fallacy that
02:06:26.540you know this is the linchpin but you know it that's not true and then um it is stated later
02:06:34.700uh betty bowman also said or bd bowman said um i do not believe in a unitary indivisible soul
02:06:44.380this is not what i mean by reincarnation however i do believe in the trans migration of the parts
02:06:48.700of the soul including the consciousness and then that's when i realized like there is no kind of
02:06:53.580linchpin that's exactly what we're describing um except for the consciousness well and or
02:07:00.940perhaps the wording is getting lost and that's and i think that's here too and i'm watching
02:07:05.740over in the side something else that i think is and this isn't uh meant insultingly at all
02:07:18.700i think that that belief is very much informed by oriental practice
02:07:28.060yeah so the the final the most recent statement inside is if your grandfather did reincarnate
02:07:35.180into your daughter obviously your daughter isn't your grandfather this confusion comes from an
02:07:41.820over attachment to the physical and not the transcendental reality
02:07:49.020if we shed all those pieces of our soul to unify into
02:08:00.300the nothingness that is my understanding of how hindus see nirvana
02:08:11.820That's not what we're trying to do, and it's a fundamental difference.
02:08:16.740The individual soul, the einherjar, is what our folk do celebrate and always have.
02:08:26.520The maintaining your selfness, your identity of who you are, beyond the veil, is fundamental to our belief.
02:08:36.220it is why we venerate and interact with in the gift cycle and communion with our ancestors
02:08:43.620it's why we worship fallen heroes it's why we make offerings and commune with the dead
02:08:51.900we can't do that if the dead are one big soup of soul mass you can only do that
02:09:03.380In any of our understanding and in our tradition, you can only do that with an individual soul that has consciousness and awareness of itself and its relation to others.
02:09:16.600That's why all of this is built upon the personal relationship built by the gift cycle.
02:09:23.280It's not an attachment to the physical, but it is definitely an attachment to the identity, to the, yeah, to the identity.
02:09:35.880And that's a really, that's a very big difference.
02:09:39.820There's no point of what we are trying to do that comes to a coalescing of all being part of some great nothingness after death.
02:18:10.000There's a fundamental kind of disconnect, I think, often between philosophy and religion, and I think they contemplate a lot of similar questions, but in different ways.
02:18:32.700I don't find Plato's school of philosophy to be pious in a religious sense to Aryan deity, but kind of a reforming of thought.
02:18:49.560And I think that's something that you see by Plato's time in Greece is a real divergence away from, at least in literary circles, from devotional worship of their gods.
02:19:05.080You see it really, really differently that way.
02:19:11.400But, yeah, I don't think that that reflects original Hellenic thought or religion in a in a faithful way.
02:19:19.560And I think that it's kind of, one of the important things about it is it is a divergence from European paganism.
02:19:29.320But I hope that, you know, stated where we're at on the idea of reincarnation and, I don't know, identity beyond the veil.
02:19:39.660I wanted to speak up to, again, the assumption that there is this obsession with the ego and one's identity is kind of like saying you obsess about your hand being a hand or what have you.
02:19:59.500know the the idea is is that if you're bestowed gifts from your ancestors and you do not view them
02:20:06.460as perhaps who they were in their lives or the deeds that they committed you are in essence
02:20:14.620robbing them of their deeds and so that's one of the big reasons why the the ek is so important
02:20:22.700it's not a worship of the ego as it is an understanding of identity that you are in
02:20:30.880essence robbing and you see this a lot in two ways people do it with with the holy gods when
02:20:36.880they explain them they try to you know pigeonhole them into into frames um without any considerations
02:20:44.680for other things they don't really observe they they're kind of like on a railroad track
02:20:52.000and then the other is they do this with the ancestors and they do it with the souls in general
02:20:57.240and it is important that if your fame if your deeds if your efforts to elevate your soul
02:21:08.060are then completely dissolved when you die.
02:21:18.300You want that correlation between your identity
02:21:22.060and who your consciousness is to your deeds.
02:21:25.580And then if that's the case on the other aspect,
02:21:28.500can all who are, say, who've committed meatling acts,
02:21:34.460are they absolved of that once they pass away?
02:21:38.060But no, those deeds are deeply connected to who they were, their consciousness, their identity. Those things do not break apart. And that doesn't mean there's an obsession for it, but that there isn't, again, the great soup.
02:21:53.160um if you commit a needling act as it was it was said and you you know you cross the river and
02:22:00.140there need all good is you know dissolute like diluting or breaking apart the soul
02:22:06.100um you know why would that caveat why would that understanding be there
02:22:11.400if there wasn't a correct connection connection to your ego i.e. the the part of your soul that
02:22:20.580was ever present during your deeds i find this a lot too uh some circles say you know oh you know
02:22:28.020when you die you kind of get judged in the in the in the afterlife and and the gods kind of descend
02:22:35.300down into the realm that every aryan branch kind of really is clear about certain gods not stepping
02:22:44.180into those underworld elements um for a very very important reasons um but though that even if that
02:22:53.300was the case the trialing system is connected to the ek is connected to the ego and when you move
02:23:00.340into and you're honored by those if you're allowed to come in by the ancestors they bring you forth
02:23:08.100um they're not doing it because it's just a blob part of the big blob now it's because
02:23:15.540of your deeds and because of your actions so to call that an obsession towards ego i don't think
02:23:21.220is is correct i don't think that's right we so we are victims of language often on here
02:23:28.900and when explaining i mean we've seen it within this episode we see a lot
02:23:33.860words have meaning and over time words carry associations either positive or negatively
02:23:43.220in the world we currently live in ego as is used in the everyday vernacular
02:23:51.620is almost a bad word it means that you're like self-obsessed or only worried about your own
02:23:57.380stuff i notice um that jay over in the chat said being a hero sometimes mean abandoning the ego
02:24:05.140and sacrificing oneself for the greater cause i don't think that's abandonment of ego at all
02:24:11.860i think that's what makes it heroic if you conceived of well i am nothing um i'm nobody
02:24:19.380and i'll just go back into the ultimate oneness of nobodyness then you're not making a sacrifice
02:24:25.780you're getting you're getting a ticket out of the suffering of this world into you know going back
02:24:33.140to the formless mass it's when you are very aware of your ego and yourself and all of the loss and
02:24:43.220the risk and the things that you incur by your action that makes them heroic to still sacrifice
02:24:51.060for the greater good when you are aware of yourself that's what adds the layer of heroism to
02:24:58.260that's all we've made egos seem like a like it's a bad thing and it means selfishness it doesn't
02:25:06.740it means awareness of self your ego means your awareness of how you feel and how you treat others
02:25:15.060how the reputation you build is either good or it's poor the effect you have on the world
02:25:20.980around you and your potential to cause good or to cause evil through your actions it's
02:25:29.940very much taking a responsibility for self because you recognize
02:25:36.580your individual agency to make those choices
02:25:39.620yeah there there would be no moral equivalency between say sacrificing your life to save others
02:25:50.380versus taking your own life and we know that there is a clear differentiation between those two we
02:25:56.340we know that when someone takes their own life and and the the deficit that it causes by the
02:26:01.580by the ego the soul that person drawing that hole in the strata around them but we also know
02:26:10.200in very much the same way if there's a end that's going to culminate by doing these actions and you
02:26:17.280know it but you still do it for the greater good the heroism that else here ago they just talked
02:26:22.080about is because the recognition of the value of the self the value of the soul of the ek
02:26:28.380is still being laid down to the, the, the terms of fate. And that's what makes it different. What
02:26:37.200makes it ennobled and, and, and, um, you know, that's why it hits us differently. Um, you know,
02:26:45.500one creates this kind of boon of value and the understanding of that value versus the deficit
02:26:50.860of that value. And I'd like, you know, um, I, I respect your, uh, beat bone and I respect your
02:26:56.780your wishes and whatever you want to do in regards to membership or however your thoughts
02:27:02.540and feelings progress as relates to your religious practice but reading reading your last comment i
02:27:11.180can't help but think that you know we might fundamentally not be disagreeing as much as you
02:27:20.060think uh the quote is i'm not a non-dualist that thinks reality is illusory and unlike buddhists
02:27:30.460i believe that people do indeed exist by ego i mean an exaltation of the person to the detriment
02:27:36.860of other things such as the community logic etc nowhere in anything that svan or i have spoken of
02:27:46.380or that's written in the document we're talking about or in the fundamental beliefs the astro
02:27:51.740focus in me do we support the ego as a detriment to other things or a detriment to the community
02:28:03.740the ego is the building block of what makes the community and that may sound like such a strange
02:28:12.700thing but there is a blending of community and individual that is where the magic happens in
02:28:21.900house of truth an individual recognizing their own agency as an individual and putting that agency to
02:28:34.220work for the betterment of his brothers and sisters that is the nobility that we talk about
02:28:41.260that is the ideal selfishness and self-indulgence are anathema to anything that we're talking about
02:28:50.860and if you are presuming that because you've presumed a couple of things you talked about
02:28:57.980obsession with ego and you've talked about ego meaning self at the detriment of other things
02:29:07.420that's not what we mean by that word and your understanding of
02:29:14.060that core value is really different and i wouldn't want you to make decisions based on
02:29:30.040is very much yes it's absolutely can be at the center of selfishness absolutely of course
02:29:39.140but it's also the center of heroism of responsibility and depending on and how of
02:29:47.180guilt of being feeling terribly bad for things that you have done because you are aware of your
02:29:54.560agency to help out in the world and to do good things or to harm people through
02:30:01.720poor actions that you've made. Let's step away from you just a second. I'll be right back.
02:30:07.700Well, and I wanted to bring up that one of the words that may be causing some of that confusion
02:30:13.260is in the soul section, when we speak of the ek, that is the correlation of what we might use as
02:30:21.560ego i mean we could easily use like dasein um it is again the awareness of self the agency of self
02:30:29.320the value in which what is placed on your honor if you uh concern yourself with the elevation of
02:30:37.160your honor it is placed upon your eck and that is really important it is the also the skein in which
02:30:46.920the nornir connect you to the divine it is the the ek is the thing that
02:30:55.080in essence um is first bestowed with on it is the
02:31:03.320pre-death container of of much of the soul and when we talk about that we're talking about mini
02:31:10.440and we're talking about humor which memory and thought are kind of again correlated in the
02:31:17.160the ego or the ek the das ein of the self and that those parts and components um when we
02:31:29.400pass you know it carries that currency that we spoke of that value the value of making your
02:31:37.640ancestors proud it's the value in which even after you return to the place of death that
02:31:47.800you can also be ascended into up the root into the heavenly realm and adjudicated into positions
02:31:57.000that substantiate order in the cosmos and i think that's another thing that's kind of lost on folks
02:32:04.440as to why perhaps you know the yggdrasil is in the in the top it is the center of all things
02:32:11.160no matter what level you may you know conceive but yggdrasil is the in the top and the roots are
02:32:18.440few know where they flow they the the the memory that flows the the actions that happen
02:32:24.280that that goes into the land of dissolvement or resistance and um you know dissipation
02:32:30.920that's where that memory flows in mimir as well but in vergelmer there is of course the torrentialness
02:32:38.280and i think that snorri did definitely you know paint a lot of some of his christian concepts
02:32:45.160there but nidogar is trying to break that root because it breaks that uh very key component
02:32:53.880which is the soul the soul complex the pieces they go up and they are then adjudicated by the gods
02:33:02.760to fill in the places that they deem it that's how alvar become alvar that's how
02:33:10.120these are become these there it's because after that death the the the honoring that
02:33:17.160the living have for that man or that woman um greatly influences that that placement and then
02:33:24.760the alpha are again cycled through the ds are cycled through and they're placed just kind of
02:33:30.040again uh guardian angel or um you know a guardian of a land or an area or what have you and they
02:33:38.600have that elevated position and then you know the souls continue on it's so important the other
02:33:44.920thing is um you know like when we've uh spoken about sumble and the braga full the braga full is
02:33:52.920often misconceived just to be simply just the bragging cup but really what that is is the the
02:34:00.680value and the currency of your deeds that you have for your community a lot of folks um you know it's
02:34:08.600it's not simply bragging about say i don't know the the money you have or the the car you have
02:34:14.920No, it's about perhaps the, um, the obstacles that have been in your way and that you have
02:34:21.520achieved past them. And what that purpose is, is not only to celebrate what you have done,
02:34:27.320but also to encourage other folk to attack the obstacles they have. And so I, I wanted to address
02:34:34.420that too, because I don't want that to be confused though. It does have root to bragging.
02:34:38.500The bragging is about that, again, spiritual currency that we build, that hominia that we build.0.94
02:34:47.460Even that is another word that has been, Christianity has had a profoundly negative effect on our folk soul over time.0.87
02:34:59.900One of the fundamental elements of Christianity is taking worth and value from the human and conceiving of humanity as all bad, literally living under a death sentence that was redeemed by the blood of Christ.0.70
02:35:27.900You are saved from this death sentence that Yahweh imposed upon you by faith alone, not by works that none might boast.
02:35:44.220so any concept of individual pride is anathema and it took a long time and in southern in the
02:35:52.220subtle steps but that has affected a lot of the way that this conversation is even even that even
02:36:00.700the words used in it and if i can you know harken back to to plato because you mentioned that was
02:36:07.980your background when he would do his lectures on stuff defining terms at the beginning was a really
02:36:16.700important part of it and it's why that's an important part of modern debate
02:36:23.500is that makes a big difference words make a really big difference
02:36:28.300so bragging and ego and all of these things have a really bad connotation no speaking pridefully
02:36:35.740about something a service that you've done or something you've accomplished wasn't just about
02:36:41.420like hey everybody you know celebrate me i'm so self-obsessed it was a way of stating your worth
02:36:51.180when you were in a worth-based society it is justifying your existence one of the fundamental
02:36:57.500things that i have people do um i actually got this from the nine doors of midgard by edward
02:37:04.940thorson as a thing is to make a comprehensive list of your good qualities and your bad qualities and
02:37:13.580consult that all the time being hyper aware of your strengths and weaknesses puts you in a position
02:37:21.500to work on those and make those better being in a spot where you have to justify your worth and
02:37:28.620And make compelling case for you being a good person puts a lot of stuff in very valuable perspective to help for you to be better and to do bigger and better things.
02:37:43.280and it's really important but it doesn't have value without um
02:37:51.200without recognition of yourself as a individual noble entity that makes choices
02:37:59.680your individuality and your identity as a person is what puts that responsibility
02:38:04.480upon you in that awareness um svan has disappeared into the ether um but in the meantime
02:38:17.520question lion of apollo question how does the horse frayfaxi relate to the harvest rituals
02:38:25.520seen historically at the time of the eighth moon slash august i'm back sorry how does
02:38:35.640and this is a this is a fine question how does the story of the horse fray faxie have anything
02:38:45.960to do with august harvest festival well it's actually quite minimal um the reality of it is
02:38:56.000is that the horse fray faxie um was named such because of the coloring of the mane being a wheat
02:39:04.200color and the correlation that wheat being called the hair of fray um and again we have a lot of um
02:39:12.800connections with this say through like especially with the anglo-saxons and the john barley corn
02:39:18.980traditions um but that that uh nyal the the govia fray named the horse such because
02:39:29.000the mane was the color of wheat and so transferring that um fray faxee um
02:39:38.500the horse there is uh there's interesting there's not correlations i would say to the holy tide
02:39:46.700um it's a it's a far more interesting story about um the weird that we weave um and what comes of
02:39:58.320that and the real connection again is if you were to have a horse and you were gonna you know
02:40:06.920uh or a an animal and what have you and they have a feature that reminds you of
02:40:12.800something else and you name it in relation to that reference it is the wheat colored hair of
02:40:21.220the horse he was also a govi of who held full trui or full trough true frere and that caused
02:40:30.300a ripple effect that was fairly great the horse that we actually um talk about
02:40:37.180um is the virility of and the vehicle of lord frere but it's a unique vehicle because again
02:40:45.180it's it's cyclical um you know ghoulin bursty um has different connotations to light and to wealth
02:40:55.340but but the horse bloody hooves is the virility and the power of lord fray that is bestowed upon
02:41:05.260us and that we attempt to encapsulate a small piece of in order to last us till the next time
02:41:12.540when he returns with and and with the coming of the opening of the gates and with him coming to
02:41:18.460the earth and reuniting with his love um or gather so the naming behind it i think was lost and
02:41:31.820people core like when they read the saga they're like this has nothing to do with like a harvest or
02:41:36.460or what have you um the other thing is is that moving some of the titling of the holy tides
02:41:42.300the um common one that was used in the anglo-saxons was loaf mass and the only reason why
02:41:50.220moving away from that was because there was a time in which the harvest festivals
02:41:57.020and the christian uh mass of that time were kind of integrated they utilized the
02:42:04.220the native faith, the true faith of the folk
02:42:12.440So you'll find that that's why, for instance,
02:42:15.560with Volsbergenach, Volsbergenach, you know,
02:42:18.500we moved away and went more towards Hexenacht
02:42:21.720or Nornirnacht, which is Witches' Night.
02:42:26.220And then we also focused more on Freifaxi
02:42:31.220as opposed to loaf mass or llamas if you want to get with the um the gaulish um uh term i believe
02:42:39.780it's llamas and um and the usage that the like uh the modern wiccans did so it was kind of more or
02:42:46.820less like there's a lot of people who know this there's a lot of people that understand it it
02:42:51.140does give a good separation away from christianity and the correlation of the horse's hair looked
02:42:57.300like wheat it was the color of wheat that's fray faxy that's the hair of lord fray um that's the
02:43:04.580correlation that's the connection but when you look at the saga there's no like that's not actually
02:43:11.060the meat and potatoes of that saga do not help facilitate the naming of of the holy tide um
02:43:17.940and i i i find it funny but i'm it's a great question and it's really important that we
02:43:22.980point that out um here's the thing there's no
02:43:31.620it's exactly that nobody's trying to pull a fast one um but
02:43:38.340in the story concept is the guy was a phrase a phraseman and the harvest festival is a very
02:43:48.660appropriate time to honor lord frayer and that's what we do during that the other thing is
02:43:57.220we're doing something every month so sometimes we go with some stuff
02:44:03.060it's been what's traditionally been practiced and one of the
02:44:08.100I'm trying to remember whether it was at Freyfaxi or not it was in the late summer on a trip
02:44:22.420I went to Denmark we did a bloat to Frey and it was really the imagery was really beautiful
02:44:31.260We did a bloat to Freyer and the old Goethe who was there, he, you know, he was one of their elders in their community, one of their kind of founding generation of modern Ausitru in Denmark.
02:44:52.480and he had left uh he left the hospital against advice he just had a surgery but he wanted to be
02:45:01.200there to do bloat for us and specifically to do bloat for our founder steve mcnellen who was there
02:45:09.180with me and um we were in this uh there's a stone circle surrounding a dolman or a piled up
02:45:20.940um you know stone chamber and we did this uh this frame load there and
02:45:28.060while it was going and we're just taking it all in i believe while he was pouring the mead um
02:45:38.880looked over to i don't know what direction i was at the time but i looked over towards my left
02:45:46.400and in the distance and we were surrounded on all sides by these flowing grain fields
02:45:54.400i mean for the point of the story i want to say they're wheat fields but i don't know my
02:46:00.100my grains that well but yeah just flowing because you could see the wind ripple off
02:46:05.820them these flowing sea of grain and just so have it or you know it just so happened that
02:46:13.580Um, right within my sight there, this, uh, you know, farmer had his stable of, of a couple
02:46:22.800of horses and the horses were neighing and dancing in the wind with the wheat.
02:46:28.600And it was a really, uh, it was a really special, uh, special moment, but no, it's cool.
02:46:37.960And it's us not naming something after the Christian celebration of it.
02:46:42.620It's us celebrating the end of summer, the beginning of the harvest, and giving bloat and worship to our God of abundant crops and fertility.
02:46:56.280And so that's what we're doing, just like we celebrate Lord Frey at the beginning of planting season and with the charming of the plow.
02:47:05.900We celebrate him in the reaping as well.
02:47:08.580I don't want to say like all of our ancestors did this and and we should do it too
02:47:19.460at the same time I am quite certain that it was remarked as being a thing for at least
02:47:27.900a certain time and it was particularly focused in Iceland that is a small amount of the entirety
02:47:34.760of our ancestors so that's another thing is when we facilitate structuring things we try to take
02:47:42.680consideration and logic throughout the entirety of it but i remember a really cool conversation
02:47:48.440that was talked about at least at some point in iceland at the end of the summer they would have
02:47:54.920horse fights and they would choose the champion the champion would be studded out and then the
02:48:02.760champion horse would be sacrificed to lord frere or to the gods and that the meat was then shared
02:48:09.240with the folk gathered um again the uh the entirety of this like this was kind of this
02:48:20.040was told to me by um an icelander named jerman gringy but looking through trying to find it
02:48:28.760say specifically in our religious lore i can't find it it sounds much more like a
02:48:36.680a localized thing that was spoken about or understood about in iceland but it it is again
02:48:44.120worth noting that that imagery that that ceremony even though it wasn't done by others it seems to
02:48:50.120transfer and it's starting to re-establish itself again in the the souls and the minds of the folk
02:48:56.360in relation to that holy tide the um cyclical nature of the vehicle of the prince of the gods
02:49:03.160lord or the holy frere and it's uh leaving of its flesh or the leaving of its its virility
02:49:11.480into the world uh the same as the last bale of hay kind of given to john barley corn and anybody
02:49:19.480who's never looked into that it's really cool to look into um the correlations between um
02:49:26.680john barleycorn as uh kind of an post-christian um you know uh worship to lord frank it's really
02:49:37.560really cool um and it was kind of done to to hide um the ever watchful eye of of you know the people
02:49:45.400in in your society that had kind of taken fully to the backwards uh religion or you know took to
02:49:52.120the to the power of it and they they wanted to call people out for stuff so they started hiding0.88
02:49:56.840things and then other things they couldn't hide so they integrated loaf mass was one of them
02:50:02.360and uh generally when you look up loaf mass they'll talk about how the bread loaves
02:50:07.080were either sold in the churches or given out during mass at the churches and
02:50:12.680And they, you know, some will give a nod towards the previous holy tides of the folk.
02:50:20.840And it was generally, it could be different from town to town.
02:50:23.740It could be different from country to country.
02:50:26.220That's why it's so hard for us to just kind of point at something unilateral.
02:50:32.020Or, you know, like I said, it was practiced in Iceland.
02:50:35.660Doesn't mean that the Norwegians did it.
02:53:30.520if our gods will that to happen and would like to see that sort of diversity in their worship
02:53:46.860then by all means um i am absolutely for it if that's what they would like
02:53:53.760I don't see an indication or a logical reason to believe that's the case.
02:54:05.340We don't have, so when we look at, and this is just me logicking, you asked kind of my opinion on it.
02:54:14.040um we often view stuff anachronistically and we celebrate relics of old stuff
02:54:27.480because it's cool and most of us really like history
02:54:31.020but like stone fences in Ireland are really romantic and cool and we celebrate these old
02:54:41.080ruins no great grandpa stopped taking care of his farm we don't have that same sense when you drive
02:54:50.200by you know a corrugated steel farm farm building that's rotting and rusted in
02:54:58.600you know middle america where grandpa stopped taking care of his farm
02:55:03.960but we do in that context because we reserve it for a different time in a different place
02:55:08.200So how did our Aryan faith take all of the different multiplicity of shapes that it took?
02:55:18.640Our people migrated and conquered and wandered and spread into very isolated locations where communication was hard and the connections got lost to time and the individual expressions of area of religion developed very differently.
02:55:43.600we don't live in that time anymore and i don't think that
02:55:49.360that level of difference is relevant to the current state of our ability to communicate
02:56:01.020with one another we are a people and now we are people who is reconnected so we've wandered
02:56:08.680across the surface of the earth we've gone all the way around until we've met ourselves
02:56:15.080and so we're reintegrating our faith we're re-bringing it back to a unified faith
02:56:24.360which doesn't have to mean squashing naturally occurring um cultural diversity in different
02:56:34.520arian areas but i don't see that happening it's coalescing in in one way that's very effective
02:56:43.880and i see the blessings of the isera in that way i don't see that occurring
02:56:48.920as you mentioned i don't see that in these other in these other situations um
02:56:54.760i don't see this great resurgence i don't even you know i don't see it in sanata the dharma either
02:57:06.820i think it's a relatively small movement i see white people trying to find the answers
02:57:16.600in exotic oriental religion and i've seen that for a long time i mean we've all historically
02:57:23.160seen that for, you know, century and a half now or thereabouts. But what I do see is authentically
02:57:32.100ours is also true. And that's what's being successful. And I don't fault you for asking
02:57:38.100the question. I think it's a really good question. But I wonder if our people,
02:57:44.760some of this I do think harkens back to the worrying about obsession with ego. What I think
02:57:52.480people really do a lot we get obsessed with being individualistic and nobody wants to conform so
02:57:59.440everybody wants to create their own new thing we're always on the lookout for well what other
02:58:05.120things could happen or what about if we did something different instead of hey guys how
02:58:10.160about we focus on what we are doing how about we focus on what is working and just put in the hard
02:58:15.280work to make the thing that's already working be successful instead of every individual person
02:58:21.280going out and starting their own new thing from scratch and that is what i think is very very
02:58:28.400important so i mean if our gods will that these other expressions of our faith pop up these other
02:58:36.560places then by all means absolutely but no i'd rather all that energy went into growing and
02:58:44.480building also true and building also truths building it back up to a prominence to where
02:58:52.800it's the religion of our folk i would much rather see that in a dispersion of that energy let's say
02:59:04.720you are muted uh one of the things that you said that last part is one thing that popped in my
02:59:12.480head almost immediately um i don't think it could happen simply because that correlation between
02:59:23.120wanting uh in the ego to create or to maintain um and so organizing is you know so like getting
02:59:33.120all of the branches of the arian folk to to come together and kind of agree on um like you know
02:59:42.160pan arian names of the gods and and and all of that um i don't know i just that's lofty but i
02:59:50.320just don't see it because of a couple of reasons one on the negative side ego on the positive side
02:59:56.240there is a lot of history in certain branches of the arian folk that go they run deep including
03:00:02.720ours so doing that would relinquish again a slight ethnic connection whether it's just language
03:00:11.520to the gods uh or you know of the gods um and vice versa for everyone else um the other thing
03:00:18.080i noticed too is i like especially in america there are a lot of folks who are like a you know
03:00:26.480a gaelic or gallic admixture with germanic um even my father um you know looking at the genetic tests
03:00:35.520uh angalo-saxon and irish um kind of admixture on that side um and i find a lot of people that
03:00:44.480come in they have this kind of confliction that they should be honoring the gaulish gods
03:00:53.520or celtic gods um and they feel like they're kind of falling back or backsliding when they
03:00:59.920honor the the germanic the teutonic um and then this of course purity spirals some germanic folks
03:01:07.040are like no no we've got to say their names in you know mainland continental german or we got
03:01:15.360to do the proto-indo-european hypothesized original names like like you know like woldanaz and um
03:01:24.400therisas and things like that the that stuff fragments and what i think else here is saying
03:01:30.720is no we have a unified language we all speak english english and we know um of the correlation
03:01:39.200of the history of the icier or the essen if you want to talk about it from the um german and
03:01:44.880anglo-saxon we know this but it all really zeniths into the the nordic seed that was kept
03:01:54.080and then disseminated after many many generations so why break that but just simply continue it on
03:02:03.200understand the influences and and the elevations and the levels of which our ancestors you know
03:02:09.920dealt with a lot of that and so also right though right action at the right time and learning how to
03:02:17.680move within the current of of orlaw and the playing out of right action and the development of
03:02:31.120recognizing what the gods want and what they don't we don't always get that perfect i promise you
03:02:37.680uh nobody on your screen now or in the house true focus and we always does everything the way that
03:02:47.180our gods would want us to i wish that we did i can promise you that the two people talking to you now
03:02:54.740try really hard to but we are not delusional and do not believe that we are you know perfect or
03:03:05.460close to it um but we want to be and uh one of those things is recognizing
03:03:16.660what the gods want over you having a cool idea and we run into it um this may seem not connected but
03:03:26.820doing it anyway so here's the thing that i run in when we um when we deal with folks that are
03:03:36.820interested in and this isn't a slam at anybody i think we all maybe start from this place
03:07:21.660So the way that it was initiated in really interesting fashion was in the Norse conception with the Norse names and the Norse understanding.
03:07:39.540That's what has been consistently blessed throughout our existence.
03:07:46.120I mentioned earlier in this program, from 1968 until now, that is a relationship that has been growing.
03:07:54.400I know we have people on here in their 60s, 70s, and 80s that don't think that sounds like a very long time.
03:08:01.040It doesn't, but it's longer than most of these other things that we bring up, and it's been consistent.
03:08:07.740it has consistently been involved in through and woven itself through one man's life
03:08:17.340and still does to this day um our founder was you know at my table this last weekend
03:08:25.200celebrating with me and being very involved in what we're doing since 1968
03:08:32.700In January, we will have been doing this for 30 years, just as the Asa True Folk Assembly,
03:08:48.640The attention focus on doing this and making this the best it can be is such a more fruitful
03:08:55.520exercise than always trying to put your own, you know, as they say on like the Food Network,
03:09:01.480your whimsical take on hamburgers no i just want a hamburger i don't want the new guy to like come
03:09:08.280up with some different hamburger i want bacon and cheese and a hamburger on a bun and it's awesome
03:09:15.720i don't it's not that other things aren't cool too but you don't want to lose your fundamentals
03:09:22.360by trying to do something else i always have to you know talk to people because they'll come in
03:09:29.880and they'll be so just on fire to want to create and do and there's so many ways within what we
03:09:38.120are doing to utilize your creativity towards the betterment of everything we do if you heard what
03:09:45.560we talked about about ego and stuff a little bit ago i'm not faulting anybody's ambition
03:09:50.760or want to build their own fame do that within the context of ousa truth there's so much to
03:09:57.400be accomplished we live in a great time to do that as well so i'd much rather see that happen than
03:10:03.480you know a disillusion of that energy into you know myriad different directions all of which
03:10:09.080could have been cool but weren't this is cool let's do this um does the a go ahead go ahead
03:10:18.200i was going to say uh there was a question from way earlier and i don't know if we addressed it
03:10:23.560and it was and then uh i think wolf throne just mentioned it again like did you guys answer that
03:10:29.480or did i miss it no it hasn't come up in the list yet i don't believe it's way at the beginning
03:10:35.560no it was way early um 9 15 the scotty question yeah yeah we're answering question right now from um
03:10:44.920644 oh but i mean that'd be 9 44 your time i guess right so yeah i'm not seeing it in my list
03:11:04.040if we did miss miss it um i don't think that we did nick can sort it out in the meantime
03:11:12.360you did you missed it no i got it right here too no no yeah i'm looking at it right now and i see
03:11:21.160exactly where i missed it i sure did one from the top no i see it thank you for reminding me and i
03:11:26.520apologize for skipping it i'm glad that you saw that spawn wasn't anything intentional so question
03:11:32.520have either of you built a relationship with scotty i'm eyeballing this scotty statue online
03:11:39.080and i'm undecided on whether i want to buy it and put it on my altar knowing she's a yogin
03:11:44.840uh is it spiritually safe for me to do that swan go for it um and we kind of emphasize this really
03:11:53.160heavily last vns episode remember the classifications that we kind of created that high
03:11:59.960That hierarchy is about observation, and it is the aus, the ausenir, the ausvenir, and the himenverder.
03:12:10.420These four things, and skadi would fall in the ausvenir, the beloved ones, the ones that join with the gods through marriage or child, that produce forth other godly forms.
03:12:26.780Um, and so the, the, the usage of the word, they are Jotun, uh, seems to fall away when we correlate with why they're with the gods.
03:12:39.640Um, and it's important to differentiate that.
03:12:44.120Um, the Ausfineer are, again, the, the Aus and the Ausfineer are listed and very finite.
03:12:51.060The Ausvenir fill a gap and have an understanding that, you know, if you have a personal relationship with Idun, if you have a personal relationship with Sif, if you have a personal relationship with Skadi, the Ausvenir are where they are at, and they are part of the gods.
03:13:11.020they've aligned themselves with the gods of cosmic order. I have, I don't have a personal
03:13:18.320kind of overtly gifting cycle and relationship with Lady Skadi. I will say that I painted her
03:13:29.380or an image of her at Njordshof, especially because of the importance of that story. And I
03:13:37.320think even the deeper importance of the story is, again, the creation of rivers. Behind her in
03:13:43.700Mjortzhoff, you can see a land massing glacier that's moving to the ocean. And I think that that
03:13:52.180has a deeper and a naturalistic point as well. But she is one of the Ostevenir. And I don't think0.98
03:14:03.340that it is problematic um perfect example would be um if somebody had on their altar say a godstead
03:14:15.020or a an idol um to say volander or whalen that is where that kind of that connection
03:14:26.540his alignment to the gods allows him that agency that positioning so um i wouldn't say that it is
03:14:35.180wrong and i wouldn't again say that call you know her being a jotun is not is also you know misleading
03:14:44.140lord odin's mother in the stories and you know her uncle or his uncle are yachtins um and it
03:14:53.020you know it is it's i think that we get caught up on that a lot and where we you know a lot of
03:14:59.340people and we've hit this numerous times jotens are not a different race from the icier they are
03:15:05.740unified they're just or they are unified in uh many ways but the thing that separates them is
03:15:13.820of course their lineage back to buri um that the jotens do not have but when they integrate in
03:15:20.940they through marriage uh god form production or you know birthing of children if you will um they
03:15:29.460become part of the oust veneer just like seaf just like eden and so my answer to that is no i don't
03:15:37.240think you would um have any issues with that i would just say make sure it is certainly with a
03:15:42.280connection, um, that you, you, you see viable. I, I, you know, I, I was trying to think of like
03:15:51.000people in the mountains who give honors to New York, but New York is also the Lord of waters
03:15:56.160and the Lord of the river. It's, it's however you see it, that connection or just wanting to
03:16:00.600build that relationship. Totally fine. But outside of those four, I would not encourage a perfect
03:16:09.660example of this is ayer and raun ayer and raun are aligned to the gods but they are not a part
03:16:18.780of the gods and there is an element there that i i do not believe the gods or they kind of clearly
03:16:26.860state it that there's an agency there that is not always beneficial to the folk and to the land
03:16:36.140ayer and round or oftentimes people in i'm just saying it because english speakers sometimes say
03:16:43.020eager and ran um they are aligned through truce but not through marriage not through
03:16:52.620uh child beginning but some people have had personal experiences where they felt
03:16:57.660ire needed to be honored and so you will find certain outliers but again aus or gods
03:17:06.940our senior goddesses aust venir the beloved ones and him in verder the heavenly wardens
03:17:15.340those are the the four best classifications to kind of
03:17:20.380understand where we're coming from and it's mentioned in the true logo no i don't think
03:17:25.420you're putting yourself in danger or some kind of gross infraction but i also say have a better
03:17:33.420reason than you found a statue that looks cool um and i say that looks
03:17:43.660yo dog this statue's cool looking i need this is one way of expressing something that also
03:17:50.460could be expressed man i was very inspired by this statue that i saw it was caused me to look
03:17:56.540more into it and this turns out to be one of our goddesses and and it just it struck a chord so
03:18:05.740i'm not cheapening what you're saying but just make sure that there is a clear intention behind
03:18:10.060why you want to do that and that would be you know what i would suggest i do not and it's
03:18:16.860it's strange because that was kind of a common a more common thing where i came into australia
03:18:24.060i was in alaska and with winter being so prominently represented there scabby was a
03:18:33.420even just secularly you know at the ski resort or whatever there'd be an uler kind of deal and a
03:18:40.780scotty deal and that was never i never felt that connectivity there with scotty um but yeah i
03:18:52.380wouldn't i don't i don't think there's any any great problem or any great deviance and uh yeah
03:18:58.620she'd be kind of outside of the icr but within the circle of people that they have treated with
03:19:05.020and bonded themselves through marriage and yeah um eric the red light does the afa have any
03:19:14.860personal trainers as members we've got enough members now that i'm gonna say yes and i think
03:19:19.740that i'm right can i tell you one that is no but i'm certain that we probably do and if it hedges
03:19:28.300my bets for like six months to a year i did personal training so i'll call that good
03:19:36.140but no i think that surely we do we also have some people who are competitive athletes in
03:19:43.340different um different sports and different disciplines and some people that are amazingly
03:19:50.220fit in different ways too so we do have a wealth of knowledge there and i'm certain that we have
03:19:55.260personal trainers in our membership i just couldn't name them for you right now um since
03:20:02.460you guys are going through the entire poetic edda on vns will you do this the entire pros
03:20:08.060edda after yes absolutely we will he's looking into that today i think um one thing to consider
03:20:16.940about that is like in the scout scalper mall there will be a lot of references to the lore
03:20:23.180that we covered and there'll be mechanics built around things that not everyone will i guess
03:20:30.380appreciate perhaps is you know the but the the really good stuff is the lore linking but when
03:20:37.980we talk about like poetic the regular listeners of victory never sleeps will appreciate it because
03:20:44.460we will have laid the foundations but yeah it's and the big thing too is um
03:20:53.180how much the the guild beginning is a cornerstone in much of our framework of uh
03:21:05.100the the the the gods the the hierarchy that we just spoke of of the four you know sections that
03:21:12.140that a lot of that comes from the guild beginning the reason why we honor frigg and freya and the
03:21:18.620maidens of fensaler that comes from why uh the cosmological outlook of of the the world is built
03:21:26.460is it's all from the guild beginning so yeah we definitely have to cover that so this is a an
03:21:34.060interesting question is ask and emblem based on adam and eve or is adam and eve based on asking
03:21:42.620embla no next question no so um no so the it's funny how you put that because
03:21:59.580it's an a and an e for the first created people i get why that's very very tempting
03:22:08.860but no as far as i can tell no in either situation um one is literally the ash tree
03:22:20.840and the elm tree the other is and they are you know
03:22:28.740norse words from a indo-european root whereas adam and eve are hebrew words from hebrew
03:22:38.220i believe adam means like the red earth and eve means breath like the breath of life
03:50:10.080and I say this I'm not sure if it's common in Finland um but be able to look at yourself in
03:50:16.500mirror that is the most you know fundamental example of self to self
03:50:22.680and I've had some very profound spiritual two very profound spiritual instances and I think that they
03:50:36.920bookend with one another in my case in this instance
03:50:41.760of there's stuff to do where you stare at yourself in the mirror for a certain amount of time and
03:50:48.560there's some ritual work and some magic practice that way your ability to see yourself in those
03:51:00.660things and the profound amount of judgment you one typically has for oneself
03:51:06.440it is very impactful if you genuinely go through that point of promising yourself to do something
03:51:19.440and then you are forced to look yourself in the mirror knowing that you can't live up to
03:51:25.060the things you promised and then making that self-judgment there is something to that and
03:51:34.640but just as we don't believe in equality there's nothing that's just as anything else
03:51:41.300wolf throne is it syncretism to pull ideas and concepts from other indo-european branches
03:51:49.740acharya g often encourages asa true are to borrow from a sanatana dharma to help
03:51:55.680fill in the gaps yes it's absolutely syncretism the question isn't that it's questions is it wrong
03:52:03.360it's literally what syncretism means but is it appropriate um and i would say you know yes when
03:52:10.640used judiciously i think that's a you know when thought is applied to it i think that's absolutely
03:52:18.160appropriate uh what's the useful i remember us talking about this during um my gothar mentorship
03:52:27.600and you were my mentor and we were talking about the blueprints of a chair and we have this this
03:52:34.400you know the ornamentation the aesthetic the um is uniquely ours but we're missing
03:52:41.280sections of how they join things together so looking at other blueprints we could easily kind
03:52:48.400of overlay and understand perhaps the joint process or the um you know the tongue and
03:52:55.360groove or whatever it is it's just we were kind of going on this analogy about the chair and the
03:52:59.840blueprints of the chair um yeah i think that's uh you know we do it with a great consideration
03:53:08.760because we don't want to pull too far from outside of our well when it comes to certain
03:53:16.620things but other things absolutely we can kind of see it and that it that's that goes with the
03:53:23.260Gauls and the Slavs and, and even the Hellenics. Um, the absolute, like utilizing, even in art,
03:53:32.480when we started utilizing the sun and rod as a head adornment, that's very just Pan-Aryan for0.97
03:53:39.480Europe. Um, and again, it was done with a judicial thought. Are we, are we stepping too far out or,0.93
03:53:45.940uh, or what have you? The same with that when we started to use the stoles, um, those thoughts came
03:53:51.800in greatly about you know where things come from um you know or or synchronizing with our modern
03:54:00.600culture in america too um you know and not like dressing up and and and larping and things like
03:54:07.240that um yeah these things we definitely consider and we we pull in uh the problem is is that like
03:54:14.920for instance with the stoles the stoles are greek but have been uh synchronized into other traditions
03:54:21.000that we clearly now know are you know kind of foreign to us um yeah you'll see it at a graduation
03:54:27.000because the greeks and greek fraternities and things but also christians have stoles so what0.98
03:54:33.160ends up happening is you have the purity spiral or that's like we can't do that because they do it
03:54:39.240and um without considering the cultural context of it the importance of being able to walk into
03:54:47.400hospital to give last rites and everyone in the room who isn't also through her know that your
03:54:53.720clergy that has value and um so that's that i think that's the only time we've ever really had
03:55:00.280a lot of problems is when one tradition synchronize it or um uh secret secretist i guess is that the
03:55:10.360context secretized one tradition and uh and we are in essence doing the same thing and they they
03:55:17.880kind of run parallel then we get a lot of people who kind of you know try to shake the finger at us
03:55:23.720but um uh the only other thought i had was um with when it comes to hinduism or vedic early um
03:55:36.120stuff there is a lot of stuff but i think most of the focus is around the bhagavita
03:55:40.760um or the bhagad i always say that wrong bhagavad yes i always end up missing a syllable in there
03:55:50.360um there is some correlations there uh some people i know do prayers in the mornings
03:55:56.440to the gods and they are kind of like a resemblance of hindu prayers um but
03:56:03.400But I don't know. I feel like in certain cases, we've substantiated our own developments.
03:56:10.320And I think people that hear like, oh, where did this prayer come from?
03:56:13.860It's like, oh, it's been in with Alcatraz since the 70s.
03:56:16.580And they're just like, not legitimate.
03:56:18.860It's got to be from the ancient days of, you know, or what have you.
03:56:24.080And that kind of is like a downer, too, when people think that way.
03:56:28.440These developments happen within a couple of decades.
03:56:31.920but people all over the community use them they're a tradition like funny the couch they're
03:56:37.200sitting on when they're waving their finger in their mom's basement is also from the 70s um
03:56:45.040with the floral pattern and the cigarette burns in it
03:56:51.280so we're dating ourselves now is what that is that's probably that's my grandma's couch probably
03:56:56.320not disregard so um but no secret syncretism within aryan religiosity is fine with external
03:57:11.680religious practice you've got to wonder why so to say that we don't with any kind of european
03:57:20.080christian practice especially medieval practice it's trying to flesh out what of that is middle
03:57:27.440eastern and jewish and what of that is from our folk soul so there's certain you know no but
03:57:34.640sticking with indo-european religions to fill in gaps or to you know come up with some cool
03:57:41.440ideas of how to do stuff that's not wrong at all something you just keyed in on the development of
03:57:47.600uh i'm just air quoting here pagan practices um that developed and actually furthered along
03:57:55.760after christianization is something that we also consider when we talk about the europe
03:58:02.720europeanization of christianity we don't see christianity we see european and so there's
03:58:09.200some stuff there as well you know where a cool place is to find recipes to make for hoff events
03:58:17.840is in like baptist cookbooks that's not because jesus that's because white people got together
03:58:25.120and made delicious food to share with people at an event it's very tempting to throw the
03:58:31.200baby out with the bath water but when you're like why do certain religious because some of
03:58:38.160it has to do with culture but others of it has to do with geography you know if you find
03:58:46.400and i'm trying to think of a good example in my head and i don't know that there is one but if a
03:58:52.080certain group of people honors their gods in a certain way is that because of that religion
03:59:00.080in its opposite in in a way that's oppositional to ours or is it because of that's the things
03:59:06.720available in their landscape or is it because that's their cultural development one of the
03:59:12.720things is white people have developed how white people practice worship of gods and that looks
03:59:18.800real similar not dependent upon what the religion is also if you're in a certain place you offer
03:59:26.720certain stuff if you are making offerings to your gods and you're in a place to where
03:59:33.600your choices are berries and salmon your religious feast is going to look real similar to the inuits
03:59:40.640is going to look real similar to you know anybody who's in that kind of an area
03:59:48.720so again i wouldn't get too caught up in that the next question it's easy to get silly with
03:59:57.280but i think it is a serious question that people want to know and it's one that i think the purity0.82
04:00:02.480spiral people abuse people with um wolf throne asks is masturbation a sin in alsatru or is it
04:00:15.600viewed as bad or ignoble in some way viewed by who no it is not a sin in alsatru0.51
04:00:24.880so i'm going to examine those two things separately
04:00:30.580no it's not a sin and outs are true there's absolutely nothing in our world that makes that
04:00:36.940sinful or bad it's a said comically by me all the time no our gods don't you know sit around
04:00:49.060peeping through your window caring if you touch yourself or not because the christian god does
04:00:55.940in their understanding and that's not that's silly and i don't think that's the case
04:01:06.260people do a lot of stuff with their body and honestly
04:01:09.220i don't believe that most of the people who condemn that so hard don't also regularly engage
04:01:22.900in that uh i just don't i don't think it and it is funny and i'm trying really hard not to take
04:01:32.880liberties with the humor of the question and the humor comes in because it's it's uncomfortable
04:01:38.620I think that's something that most people do, most people certainly have done, and I think that when the people that make the biggest virtue signal about that not being good are people that I think are probably very experienced in that activity.
04:02:08.620then is it viewed as bad or ignoble in some way is a it is a funny question in both senses of the
04:02:17.920word if it is viewed then yes it is viewed um by each of those things you know it is viewed
04:02:27.520poorly or at the very least you never would never live that down um Herman perfect example
04:02:34.660i mean if it's done in an adult theater amongst a bunch of other people then yeah that's probably
04:02:46.580ignoble and not a good thing um serious but i mean this is a serious question i think a lot
04:02:53.380of people have that i'm sure a lot of young people have that question and i think a lot of
04:02:58.900people that come from a place of mental weakness that encounter
04:03:05.620also true and want to be accepted and hear a lot of these
04:03:13.860all bluster purity spiral people on the internet yeah get depending on their situation it can be
04:03:22.500very traumatizing to them if they're hearing different stuff is it viewed as bad or ignoble
04:03:30.180yeah by those purity spiralers maybe organizationally within the afa or whatever
04:03:37.380no but it's also not one of those things you talk about it's obviously a very private thing and it
04:03:43.140would be ignoble to like go on and on talking about it in the public sphere because that's
04:03:57.380Svon, do you have anything to add to that question?
04:04:02.060I would say the major, well, one is that I think from a, from a Christian standpoint, I know, and a Judaic standpoint, because they are one in the same, ultimately, is that there is some reference that it, I think the quote was,0.97
04:04:19.220it is better to spill your seed in the belly of a whore or a uh i don't think they say hooker um0.98
04:04:28.260sex whatever uh then to then to you know do it manually if you will um and i think that's where0.99
04:04:36.820that that kind of comes from uh i try to see the sources of that same thing with the tattoos like
04:04:43.540no tattoos and stuff like that that comes from the biblical um covenant between that the yahweh
04:04:50.020and the israelites like formulated that the torah talks about but i would say and i can't i'd be
04:04:58.340amiss if i didn't bring it up i think it's really bad to support the um the industry around it and
04:05:07.940that is i think an aspect we should talk about especially the hyper sexualization of folk women
04:05:17.140i think also the um kind of the degradation and some of the conditioning that um this society has
04:05:25.300done to sexualize folk women in an unhealthy way i think it's fine if there's sexuality i think it's
04:05:32.180fine if women i'm not a prude in any way shape or form but i don't think it's right when it goes
04:05:39.380into this kind of money making um industry that really has no bounds and not no under
04:05:48.100like again there's underage people getting exploited by this industry all the time
04:27:33.320when they're like you know what I'm done with this I'm tired
04:27:35.200being undependable i tell you what before the gods and everybody i oath i'm gonna and it's this huge
04:27:41.840thing start small with things that you can accomplish
04:27:51.920like don't be silly with it like i promised to
04:27:56.960scratch my ear yay there's one point no but promise to do something that is important0.97
04:28:10.000but that you are capable of doing that's relatively small in your life
04:28:16.560you know whatever it might be i promise that in the next you know week i'm going to call my dad
04:28:23.040if that's your problem is communication with somebody i promise i'm gonna do whatever you know
04:28:31.520stuff you don't do i promise that over the next week i'm gonna vacuum every single day if that's
04:28:38.720your thing i'm gonna whatever it is you know what i'm gonna go to the gym
04:28:44.460five times every week for the next three months or whatever you're gonna do something that you
04:28:53.020can actually do and stick to it and build on it use so we build confidence based on real achievement
04:29:09.420and if it's all pretend then it's it doesn't matter and it can be washed away
04:29:14.700if it's through accomplishment even if it's small you have something you can go back to
04:29:21.260And I've seen this in the sense, the way it relates to others, I've seen this with people who have accomplished things physically.
04:29:31.320If you've been fat and you've gotten in shape, if you find yourself fat again, you have a confidence that other people don't have that you know how to fix this.
04:29:48.240it is doable you've been able to do it therefore if you put your mind to it you know damn well you
04:29:55.120can do it again the same thing as with oaths if you build up if you build your ability up
04:30:03.120by following through on relatively small things and progressively more difficult things
04:30:09.840then you have the confidence to attempt and to know that you can stay with
04:30:17.220bigger oaths that you make swan what do you have on that
04:34:57.560There is an applicable point of this, but it's not to be done willy nilly.
04:35:02.700and i i think uh you know we have a very heavy process in actually involving gothar and oafing
04:35:08.380systems and things like that um but if you say you fall short on an oath that you made to yourself
04:35:17.420paying a price outside of yourself to redeem and then again to try to figure out another angle to
04:35:28.700build that that redemption towards the deed can be done it's just not like immediate doom um
04:35:36.220so don't don't get that in your in your head if if um you do that but again i would just say
04:35:41.900make proclamations don't make an oath make a proclamation it's so much easier and less uh
04:35:52.540tricky or troublesome to get around make a proclamation get it done and if you don't then
04:35:58.700you need to work on trying to figure out how you can redeem yourself especially if someone
04:36:03.340else knows about the proclamation absolutely um was christianity ever actually practiced in the
04:36:12.860middle east i always thought christianity was strictly european like a sort of arianized
04:36:18.060judaism especially i always knew it started in the middle east but i don't know if it was ever
04:36:24.540very prominent there um so yes first absolutely was um it was practiced there super heavily during
04:36:41.100i mean obviously jesus and his early disciples were there but in the
04:36:46.540all throughout the rest of the roman empire it was very popular in the middle east
04:36:57.740all throughout that portion of like the hellenized world in the middle east down into i don't know
04:37:10.140where you stopped considering it but there was um coptic christians in egypt prominently up
04:37:17.100to and including today jesus's brother started a church in egypt too they were called the simonites
04:37:24.360yeah there was i mean it spread through the the mechanism of the roman empire early on so
04:37:31.240everywhere that the empire was christianity was very heavily in the middle east for a really long
04:37:39.360time um much more prominent in the middle east than judaism was because judaism was a certain
04:37:49.280tribe of people in a certain place whereas christianity sought to you know be very
04:37:55.840multicultural so it it spread further and was more all-encompassing it was the very waning days0.99
04:38:05.200of the empire where you started to see the rise of islam but you dealt with you know1.00
04:38:13.520muslims didn't own the middle east at that time most of that was owned by greeks by the eastern
04:38:20.400half of the roman empire which were all christians um until it was overthrown in the muslim conquest
04:38:29.680but that was coming out of arabia not out of i think what a lot of us would consider
04:38:36.560the middle east there it came out of that peninsula a lot of it um but yeah for a very
04:38:42.240long time and you ran you had christian community communities in the middle east
04:38:47.120even during you know times where it was controlled by the arabs you had uh
04:38:53.680you know when the crusades went to reopen the pilgrim routes to the sacred sites in the
04:39:02.800middle east for the christians they dealt with a lot of existent christians in the area
04:39:10.880when when they came over from europe to establish the crusader states there
04:39:17.040so yeah absolutely practiced in the middle east for a very long time you see it's
04:39:21.520It's most prominent, flourishing, and the things that are iconically Christian to likely to you because, again, when you think of Christianity, most people in the West don't think of Orthodox Christianity.
04:39:43.920They don't think of, they think of the Roman Catholic Church and its, you know, descendants in Protestantism in the West.
04:39:58.080So it got the most hype that way, but absolutely it was.
04:40:01.880Fond, do you have anything to add on that?
04:40:03.640Yeah, the foundations of the Christian Church before the Orthodox or the Catholic really comes down to understanding one thing.0.85
04:40:12.980saul of tarsus and saul of tarsus was killing heretical jews or christians again christians0.64
04:40:21.300to the jews were heretical because they were worshiping the wrong messiah and messiah worship
04:40:26.660is uniquely abrahamic um it's not found in you know especially like in europe and in arian0.55
04:40:34.260religions um but saul of tarsus never met jesus he was alive way after he was a like a jewish
04:40:43.300bounty hunter of heretical um jews and he was actually like in syria hunting them down when he
04:40:56.980said that he had uh that he was you know he fell from his horse and he had an uh like a visitation0.89
04:41:03.220from a moloch because again saul of tarsus would have been speaking in his language um
04:41:12.500so he had a visitation from a moloch which later on when they actually ran into greece they chose
04:41:19.460the word angelos because they needed a correlation um but yeah and the moloch came down and said
04:41:27.700that he should no longer be persecuting um the uh you know the christians because uh that
04:41:37.220yashua the rabbi was the correct messiah so then when he go you know he eventually leaves the
04:41:43.940middle east and kind of goes into greece and that's where he meets simon or shimon and that
04:41:50.420that ends up being um peter which of course at the time in greece was petra and so um the founders of
04:42:01.940the christian traditions in greece whether orthodox or catholic ultimately rest on the
04:42:09.380shoulders of these two guys and saul never met jesus and also the only um he would say he met
04:42:19.700jesus oh yes in the when they were out on the boat in the spiritual form and he said be a fish
04:42:25.300on the road yeah on on the road to damascus yeah um jesus well yeah
04:42:36.260yeah and when they're on the fishing boat he said he claimed that they saw the the image of jesus
04:42:42.980walking on the water um and go to be a fisher of men which is really just expounding the problems
04:42:49.380that judaism had with christianity originally they had it as an internal thing you're heretical
04:42:56.100because you're worshiping the wrong messiah then they were like you know what we're gonna make
04:43:00.340non-jews into like jews and the jews didn't like that either so that even compounded some of that0.52
04:43:10.740but yeah the entirety of christianity falls on those two and saul only knew about um the
04:43:17.460um the books of of the crucifixion he he didn't really know anything of the early life of um
04:43:26.340the rabbi yeshua so like he really really focused heavily on that it was peter who knew a little bit
04:43:32.580more and that's when they started trying to go through and figure out which books were going to
04:43:36.500be good and not good and this was of course even before the lesser known arian church because the
04:43:43.300the three big ones were catholic orthodox and arian and arian was part of the gnostics and
04:43:49.860they didn't believe that the rabbi was um that he was separate from yahweh
04:43:56.340that he was not the same but in the flesh um he was the son of and that eventually got
04:44:02.580quashed and and destroyed but um yeah and then what i think what you had said i was here about
04:44:10.660how when the arabics took over christianity was very widely because that's kind of it's circled
04:44:15.700back and after constantine you know uh by that time christianity yeah had kind of formulated
04:44:23.140and spread and went into like persia and um uh again very established in egypt and ethiopia
04:44:31.460um where there was already um uh african or ethiopian judaism because they believed their
04:44:39.220connection to moses i guess moses's wife was a newbie and i'm not super familiar with a lot of
04:44:45.940the details of the old testament um or the torah um what it should actually be called um but they
04:44:54.900the lineage of uh moses and the nubian that he married um and her going into ethiopia that kind
04:45:05.940of thing i guess it was just like thanks for the great time going to you know 40 days 40 nights
04:45:11.620bye and she just went south and started a kind of her own branch but um yeah are you confusing the
04:45:21.460story of uh um queen of sheba uh one of solomon's wives going down to the ethiopia with oh no that's
04:45:31.460right sorry yes i am confusing that that is correct she is they suggest they still have the
04:45:40.100ark there right now but only one guy gets to see it and he like lives in there with it
04:45:47.220yeah uh i do believe too that there is some connection to moses um in relation to when
04:45:55.140they were in egypt but i don't yeah i got those two confused because as soon as you said it um
04:46:01.300one of the big things about that time frame was um i can't remember who it was but the
04:46:06.500word europe comes from the it's a canaanite or phoenician word because uh one of the the
04:46:16.180daughters of the phoenicians married she went west and married one of the greeks and her name
04:46:21.060was europa and that somehow converted into you know she went into that land that is the land
04:46:27.300her that was her name um i think we brought that up about uh europe not having actual um
04:46:37.540uh i guess like arian linguistic origin but um yeah i think a lot of people forget and it's like
04:46:46.580when you run into people a lot of my time on the social media that i get into arguments with is
04:46:51.700there is a lot of i would say like folk minded christians that absolutely deny that their
04:46:58.900religion is judaic in origin um they absolutely deny like it only happens after the catholic
04:47:05.780church everything before that never happened um and that that's really really sad and they
04:47:12.820go through hoops to you know jesus was wiped um and you know and everyone all the the jews in the
04:47:23.060bible are different from the jews of today i've heard tons of like mental hoops and so a lot of
04:47:30.020times it's even funny because i saw some website was trying to mock me saying that i was making0.84
04:47:35.780like um anti-semitic remarks when in reality i was arguing that christianity is judaic that
04:47:43.300was the ultimate thing that i was trying to uh point out and um somehow that got flipped
04:47:50.500and i thought that was extremely funny um but yeah it was fun do you have a sauna
04:47:57.860no i don't have a sauna um at my home i have a i have access to a modern sauna at my gym
04:48:08.740and it sucks because the sauna culture there is not correct and i know it's not correct um
04:48:15.940you know as far as the dressing and uh the quietness a lot of people go in there and0.95
04:48:21.220freaking talk and i hate it when they do that because it's you know it gets a little wild in
04:48:26.420there um and people are just kind of kind of coming in with their you know they have their
04:48:30.740shoes on and so on and so forth but um yeah i want to get one built in my backyard and then do one
04:48:38.580with a with the wood stove that would be awesome i've talked about that numerous times and we've
04:48:43.220actually looked at models to buy or never actually pulled the trigger to do it all right
04:48:49.300How do you overcome the fear of death in an house of true context?
05:11:44.520trying to do i don't want to lose the chance to do those things but i also understand that
05:11:54.040the way that everything goes out and about we don't get the chance to kind of
05:11:59.480choose those things so you have to make best with what you have so i would say when i was younger
05:12:04.840i didn't fear loss i was in the thick of it bullets whizzing overhead riding around like
05:12:13.640mad max in the desert and was an absolute nut nutso kid like just i think back on it now and i'm like
05:12:22.680if i had gotten zinged by some bullet or shrapnel back then what would i have i would have lost so0.56
05:12:32.360much that i have gained through my life and really what that is i'm not afraid of death i'm just
05:12:36.680i guess attached to the the things that the love that i have the children the the even the future
05:12:46.020that we have the possibility of i want to see grandchildren and all of those things that's the
05:12:51.260only thing i um lament in the in death and the loss of that um and i feel like i just didn't
05:13:01.860have that attachment when i was younger i was oblivious and kind of asinine about a lot of
05:13:07.700things so i don't know if that's fear of death or fear of loss which i think might be two different
05:13:16.480things i think it's all relative i mean
05:13:18.720are all relevant i guess it's part of what i'm saying i'm getting loopy and tired but looking
05:13:25.360on this question, I definitely look at it really differently the older I get.
05:13:55.360And in a way, I think earlier when I was younger, death was terrifying because I hadn't gotten to experience life yet. I felt like I hadn't gotten a chance at things. So the idea of not getting a chance due to death was really scary.
05:14:25.360And personally, I feel like I have accomplished things in my life to be proud of and to leave a legacy with.
05:14:41.640and that makes me feel better about it really specifically the fact that I have my daughter
05:14:51.320and that I know that something will outlive me into the future something you know of me
05:14:59.900one of my descendants will live into the future and I mean I imagine you hedge these bets the
05:15:08.800more you have of like all right cool it's more secured it's whatever but the difference between
05:15:14.640I will have no offspring and my line of descendancy will die with me or I have some
05:15:23.300offspring and that is likely not going to die with me is very is a comfort and is is important
05:15:34.360to me and that and I've thought about that a lot just on stuff like planes are scary to me
05:15:41.920they weren't when I was younger I travel a lot it's not debilitating but I start overthinking
05:15:49.260that planes are scary and so I think about death when I'm on planes and that's one of the you know
05:15:54.840that's those moments where I take stock of stuff and yeah um Aubrey
05:16:01.020and and because i've thought about this in different contexts yeah but what if she's
05:16:06.780on the plane with me the fact that that goal occurred
05:16:13.500gives me a certain amount of peace of mind the further thought that she will carry on
05:16:21.180the line of my ancestors directly from me into the future the more likely that is
05:16:29.020that's also a different layer of comfort but the thing that is progressively scary is i become very
05:16:38.940aware of the lack of time in the future when you're young you know you your whole life's ahead
05:16:45.660of you like now i'm young i have plenty of time you reach a point at like 40 and it sounds
05:16:52.460so stereotypical but it absolutely hit me exactly then like wow no i don't i don't have that much
05:17:00.460time i'm now thinking in terms of decades i can remember something i did something i forget what
05:17:08.060it was i started watching something that i had stopped watching 20 years ago something to where
05:17:16.780there's a gap of two decades and i remember right where i picked up you know where i left off
05:17:21.980and like i remember it i remember things that don't seem long ago that were two decades ago
05:17:30.780i'm like man it means it's not that long until you know see because this month here next next week
05:17:42.780next week i think i'm turning 43 got a math again you guys caught me when it's late
05:17:48.780so anyways i'm like yeah next week so uh
05:17:58.300yeah that means that 63 isn't that far away if 23 wasn't that far away then 63 is not that far away
05:18:06.700you know i don't i start looking at stuff i'm i've got so many things that i want to accomplish