In this episode of the show, we discuss the first day of school for our homeschooling program, The Australia Academy. We also talk about our upcoming trip to Baldershof with our daughter, Frey Faxi.
00:03:00.000hello and welcome to another exciting edition of victory never sleeps
00:03:20.240tonight witness fawn and i will be going over uh the locasena
00:03:26.320we're using once again the bellows translation nick's got a link up we're going to try to remember
00:03:33.680to put it up early so you guys can all get to it and follow along if you'd like to as always
00:03:39.200please um use whatever translation you'd like to follow along and compare and contrast and
00:03:47.040i don't know find points of interest in as always ask whatever questions you guys would like
00:03:53.800If it's relevant to what we're talking about at the moment or to the text, we'll try to answer them, you know, as close to immediately as possible.
00:04:03.060If not, we may put them off till we're done with the text for the night.
00:15:10.800our folk and this family and this this progeny has
00:15:16.720passed through the development of self to where they are the pinnacle of nobility
00:15:24.180then they're bestowed the secrets of the runes then their their last step of
00:15:30.740personal evolution of self-actualization is the learning of magic and amongst those things it
00:15:40.300talks about you know learning runes stilling fires calming waves and understanding the chatter of
00:15:47.280birds and it's such a specific point for it to be mentioned there that's a thing one of the things
00:15:55.360that i've mentioned as kind of the core to magical practice is being able to
00:16:09.600it's a funny analogy but in a way being able to see the matrix being able to understand
00:16:16.080And the tapestry that's being woven of earth and being able to work within that to see and pick up on the currents and the subtle things in nature around yourself and to align yourself with it or to be aware of things to avoid them.
00:16:37.740just like you know the birds are like hey heads up you're about to get shanked
00:16:43.820and then they saw that coming that's um part of the mystery of the rhido rune that we
00:16:53.900use as the the symbol of our priesthood of gothar within the afa is that right action at the right
00:17:02.700time and being in the flow of of orlog and of earth of the understanding of the laying out of
00:17:10.700fate and the right ordering of action when you do that magically you're able to draw synchronicities
00:17:18.460to you to work within them it's subtle influences over these things it's not you know
00:17:24.300i think in our heads when we are disconnected and we're you know fans of of sword and sorcery and
00:17:35.040stuff you think you cast these big spells and you shoot a fireball out of your hands and these crazy
00:17:41.920things i think that's much less the case i think it's a subtle ability to manipulate the world
00:17:50.160around you and i think we read in our ancestors time of great occasions to where it was very very
00:17:55.600obvious but we see and experience it quite a bit during bloat i think and the better we get at it
00:18:04.000the more often we see those experiences we recognize things that are out of the norm and so
00:18:12.800often one of the biggest indicators that everyone notices is you know special stuff that birds do
00:18:25.600be it coming and and perching for a specific part of a ritual and then leaving
00:18:32.560kinds of birds that you don't usually see coming them doing almost a call and response
00:18:40.720squawking at a certain time them flying overhead in an auspicious time it's something that people
00:18:47.440notice a lot i understand it may sound you know birds do crazy things whatever but when you do
00:18:54.160enough of them you can kind of tell the difference of when it's at a auspicious time or when it's
00:19:02.720just birds doing bird stuff i always remember um one ritual we were doing in my house in palmer
00:19:13.280alaska anybody who knows palmer it's it's inland a little ways it's not really
00:19:21.920on it's kind of far away from the bodies of water and it's not really where you see a lot of eagles
00:19:28.000and it was really cool this eagle came and perched in our our ritual tree we had a special
00:19:34.580tree that was kind of where we would leave our offerings and such and it was right on the edge
00:19:39.760of our our vey and eagle came perched in the tree like came in when we were inviting in for the
00:19:50.520ritual observed the ritual with us and then left when the ritual was done in a really
00:19:58.960it's the only time that ever happened on that property all the time that i lived there and it
00:20:04.780was really interesting so you pick up on that with birds birds are really special that way and i have
00:20:09.820to believe our ancestors interacted with them in a similar way so i think it's easy to conceive of
00:20:16.320like, you know, in the story writ large, these birds, you know, fluidly having a conversation
00:20:24.500in, you know, in our heads in English with this guy, you know, at the time, I don't know,
00:20:30.540in Gothic or whatever at that point, but realistically, being able to recognize bird
00:20:39.220sign, being able to recognize things in nature and put meaning to them and understand things
00:20:46.160coming by subtle things that heightened level of awareness has always been a hallmark of an adept
00:20:54.960at the finer art of living well be it an initiate in special religious arts in magic or just a
00:21:06.400highly advanced individual is being able to pick up on these things being able to
00:21:11.200in a lot of ways nobility is the ability to live
00:21:16.340the art of being able to live life well to do the things that you do with with excellence
00:21:24.900and i think that you see that demonstrated when he's on the other side of victory over this
00:21:30.700you know most most immense of enemies overcoming that he ascends and becomes more than he is
00:21:37.940He levels up, and part of his leveling up is this greater understanding.
00:21:45.160But, no, I'm really glad that Svon picked up on that as well.
00:21:50.000That was something that immediately stood out to me.
00:21:52.760Well, and I just saw something in the comments.
00:21:55.780W. Ulf just brought up a great point, and it really makes me want to emphasize something.
00:22:01.960uh he talked about the comparison between finn mccool and the salmon of knowledge and his being
00:22:09.920able to speak to the salmon and i think that this is a that's actually a great point for a larger
00:22:16.540um point and that is you see these in arian mythos all the time the the the meta narratives if you
00:22:28.460will, are, you know, there's things that I think that when a lot of people might just
00:22:37.240look at everything strictly through a Nordic lens, and I think that the Ausatru Folk Assembly
00:22:42.700does a very, very, like, finite job of attempting to also see the pattern beyond simply the
00:22:51.920Nordic. And when we look at these, um, you know, kind of check marks that are going through from
00:23:00.120the branches of our, of our cousins, you know, when we, we see the, um, the dismemberment of
00:23:06.100Lord Tyr against the chaos wolf, and we see that commonality with, uh, King Nuada and the silver
00:23:13.860arm um there is these huge like easy connecting points and i think that brings it up is that one
00:23:22.700of the things our aryan ancestors saw as a true sign of like the the esoteric becoming exoteric
00:23:32.140was the ability to suddenly you know communicate with uh things that you know we know are
00:23:39.820communicating with each other but we don't understand them so i i thought that was a
00:23:45.720really cool point as well and i totally didn't even register my brain until he said it absolutely
00:23:52.720um all right well i think that's a oh i
00:23:59.020thank you so much monk uh monk just donated uh one thousand five hundred dollars
00:24:11.020to the vns fund uh for odenshoff thank you for a beautiful service for his wife um
00:24:19.820yeah i was very it was very those of you that may not know i'm supposed to go out to uh
00:24:27.020sigerheim and i got stuck on that horrible travel day where all the airlines went into chaos because
00:24:34.860their uh computer equipment stuff went down as far as scheduling and you know in a way it was
00:24:41.020very unfortunate because i couldn't go to sigerheim for our event there but it also what it did allow
00:24:46.060for was i was able to go to sigerheim at odin's hof where we did the service for monk's wife and
00:24:51.900i was able to be there for that i was very honored to be able to be there i was very honored to get
00:24:56.860a chance to uh to know her and and get to see her a few times before she passed and i appreciate
00:25:04.620getting that opportunity and thank you very much mom for your generous donation it's uh it's much
00:25:10.140appreciated with that um so we have a couple of more questions to hit and then we'll get to the
00:25:21.900text um last one first just because it's simple and kind of ridiculous uh from algies kinez
00:25:33.820hi i saw a message about rap snacks does the afa listen to rap ah i knew this was this is
00:25:40.780going to come back on us not officially i we're down the road in thorshof and we made a stop at
00:25:48.140at a gas station for some snacks this is the first time i'd ever seen these wrap snacks what is this
00:25:53.660it's because it's the south it looked completely ridiculous there's these varieties of chips with
00:25:59.820like wrappers like with their chips and so i got yeah so i got some because it was going to be an
00:26:08.620ironic joke but the joke was on me because they're the most delicious chips i ever ate in my life and
00:26:13.900And I was excited about it because I went back to the Hoff.
00:26:18.000I'm like, you know, it's an inside joke amongst leadership there.
00:26:22.120Then I ate them and I'm like, because they're like the best.
00:26:25.440They really are some of the best chips I've ever had.
00:26:32.260The good, the fine folks at Wrap Snacks do not sponsor the Ask True Folk Assembly.
00:26:38.940We got Gorilla Snot and now we've got Wrap Snacks.
00:26:42.260yeah it was very obviously an inside joke but they are delicious chips i wish they weren't but they
00:26:48.100are um to a more meaty question though from last week and i know we talked about it a little bit
00:26:55.700but i think we can narrow down on it a little bit more because this is this is something a
00:27:00.900lot of people ask and we've run into a lot and it's an interesting question um and let's take
00:27:08.820explain this first uh spawn so do you think it is important to us to
00:27:17.620no that's not the one i was looking at we will get that get to that one it was earlier up here
00:27:21.460that i was looking at the one okay this is an existential question i've been struggling with
00:27:28.020did our gods create the earth or did they just create us in my mind if they created the earth
00:27:34.820itself, the gods become universal. But if they just created the folk, then that reinforces a
00:27:41.880folkish worldview in my mind. It's said in the Eddas that they created Midgard, so I would0.96
00:27:47.940believe Midgard to be our folk consciousness here on earth. I could be completely off on this,
00:27:53.640and I'm probably overthinking it, so I come to you for some Alshary Gothic wisdom.
00:27:59.740um did yeah take a stab at this first well i thought that was asked last week i thought we
00:28:08.300got so that's right okay so i i kind of intentionally skipped this one last week
00:28:13.500because we covered it but i don't think we covered it as fully as we could have nick pointed out
00:28:20.700that i skipped it and i was like yeah we already answered like almost the same question but the
00:28:25.740fact that he pointed it out meant that you know maybe some people didn't see it that way or we
00:28:30.220didn't take a deep enough dive into it so i wanted to revisit it a little bit with just us
00:28:35.740yeah i mean i'll i'm still going to reiterate the same point i had last time with the similar
00:28:41.100question and uh wolf throne that's it's beautiful that i mean because you're talking about the
00:28:46.700consciousness of the folk um and that is just as viable i wouldn't say that we're looking for the
00:28:53.980singularity of an answer but instead the uh synchronization of multiple answers that's how
00:29:00.700i think mythos works um it's like a rope so you know you could say is balder alive
00:29:08.540is balder dead uh yes uh and is you know there's the the correlation of um interaction with the
00:29:20.620the divine often leads us to have a multiplicity of ideas that are connected to that's one big
00:29:26.900difference between us and say like a semitic religion that's that's attempting to peel away
00:29:32.720um to the singular truth so much so that it becomes abstract um instead ours becomes the
00:29:40.860like our gods works in multiplicity um but you know there's that which is correct
00:29:49.080aligns with the other things that which is not is kind of sticking out like a sore thumb and
00:29:54.080that's usually your good sign that that correlation might not be cohesive with everything else um
00:30:01.500and it's a great way to discern people who are kind of telling things about the gods or so on
00:30:08.300so forth that that's like nonsense a perfect example of that being of course like loki is a
00:30:13.980a great example with people who are kind of computer you know uh goobers who just like oh
00:30:22.220i worship loki and all that and you can go through a list of things that would show that this is just
00:30:28.220kind of not connected to the divinity of the gods and they just deny it so in this case
00:30:36.460what you're talking about i don't think um is against the overall understanding of this but
00:30:44.140instead is congruent with it so that's what i mean by um i don't i don't think you're wrong um
00:30:53.100however one of the points that i like to emphasize to to my children uh to the folk
00:30:59.820at thorshof is that there is the inner guard and the outer guard and our ancestors understanding
00:31:09.500of things was often completely built within the inner guard and the the idea that because the the
00:31:22.220gods created the earth there is a universal aspect i don't i believe that the gods created midgard
00:31:29.820But I don't know of or reason why or demand reason from the gods as to why there are other people in other parts of the world or what have you.
00:31:41.880Or perhaps that there are other divine powers of some sense, whether they're grossly, you know, blown, you know, out of proportion because of the framework and structuring of the religion that touts that.
00:31:59.820um or whether you know however they may be i could speculate but at the end of the day it
00:32:05.000doesn't really matter the only thing that matters is that which is in the inner guard i know that
00:32:10.420the gods created midgard that i live upon and my people live upon and everyone outside of that is
00:32:17.340outer guard and they're either antithetical against it or they're neutral and at that point
00:32:24.320it it doesn't matter it doesn't matter if like uh if somebody was to ask me like do you believe
00:32:29.920that other people that aren't folk uh do their souls go to their ancestors it's like well i don't
00:32:36.080know and i it doesn't i wasn't told it's i know what happens by from my ancestors and from the
00:32:44.240gods to my people and that's kind of the end of the story um and that's all it really needs to be
00:32:51.840because the well nourishes my people and i think that there's another great reason for doing this
00:33:00.640not only is there just the emphasis of um folk for or folk forward and tribalism that
00:33:09.040is kind of against universalism uh you know universalism eventually blows up into eroding
00:33:15.920nations and eroding ethnicities and cultures and, um, all of that. Um, we, we attempt to only
00:33:28.420simply understand for ourselves. We don't step on other people's toes and nor do we speculate.
00:33:36.520And I think that's another thing that a lot of people are trying to fish for. They want to see
00:33:41.540if we like, oh no, like the Mormons, you know, all, all black people are Canaanites. Like they1.00
00:33:48.360went, they went, you know, trying to understand races and all of this. It doesn't matter for us.0.97
00:33:56.440I know where our folk come from. I know where our, our inner guard is, and I can fully stretch
00:34:02.300out in there and be confident in that and not really need to know certain reasons. And I don't
00:34:10.040think it's um my place to try to you know expound on that extract that knowledge from the gods or0.55
00:34:19.560what have you um or you know you don't see that happening like the mormon church is clearly an
00:34:24.440extension of protestantism and they were attempting to do things they were forcing their god yahweh
00:34:31.100to make reasons to explain things you know why why didn't jesus come to the native americs oh
00:34:38.540what he did. And, you know, it just, it gets, it gets wild. No focus on the inward and everything
00:34:44.560outside of us is so, it has no gravity other than relations and immediacy, um, working together,
00:34:55.100being good neighbors, um, exemplifying the traits that I think my people have to other people who
00:35:02.400are not my people is important, but I don't need to explain where they come from. Uh, if there's
00:35:08.000other gods or or what have you we already already know that the aryan people um of many different
00:35:15.840branches that people have long scratched their heads and said you know how can these these gods
00:35:20.800are all different no they're actually quite very they're all similar and so we have this vast
00:35:27.680religious spectrum um from the central russian and caucus mountains going down into india and
00:35:34.400westward into europe that have more relations than than uh people understand so i think that
00:35:43.200understanding our inner guard does sort of extend to the secondary inner guard like the arian folk
00:35:51.040but outside of that and that's a lot of folks it's a lot of people um i don't seek any more
00:35:59.200than that some people would accuse me of willful ignorance but the idea again is if you search too
00:36:06.000far outside of your realm outside of that which the the order in which you see you have you have
00:36:14.320the tendency to be tainted by that and i think one of the greatest taints of that is um universal
00:36:21.920religions are inevitably lead to abstractism and the idea that the divine is irrelevant it goes
00:36:30.800into like uh and i don't mean nihilism like strictly from nietzsche but just modern use of
00:36:38.640the word nihilism and um atheism and all that stuff because they leave their ordered foundation
00:36:46.160yeah so um i think it was a really well well done and well thought out question
00:39:22.140Well, you could do that indefinitely because there's some things that in our existence we just cannot wrap our head around when you delve into the most basic level of our reality.
00:39:36.780But what our myths tell us is that our gods created us and they created the world in which we live.
00:39:43.320if you want to go literally that they created the like mountains and trees and structure of the earth
00:39:53.960i'm not saying that they didn't do that or have part in that creation but its relevance to me
00:40:01.860matters very little they created me and my ancestors and they shaped our understanding
00:40:10.500of self and our understanding of the world in which we live and operate in.
00:40:15.880And I think, you know, eventually, you know, as we expand into space and things, we get
00:40:23.400into areas that our Lord doesn't talk about because it had no relevance to the people
00:51:52.580I would never want to tell you not to think about these things.
00:51:55.560They're great things to ponder and think about and think about how stuff relates to it.
00:51:59.900And I think that your original answer about our gods being, you know, creating our consciousness and how we perceive the world is fantastic.
00:52:07.840Thinking beyond that is really interesting and it's fascinating.
00:52:14.440And I think people get caught up with that sometimes.
00:52:18.320And there's some things that you don't truly understand.
00:52:20.560The other thing is, like Svon said, and I think this is really important.
00:52:28.920In a lot of ways, it would cut through some of this for me to pretend that I got some magic goggles.
00:52:36.340And I think I speak for all of us, and I know that I speak for myself, and I know that I speak for our founder, Steve McNallan, on this, because he and I have talked quite a bit over the years.
00:52:56.400Um, when I tell you something is the way something is, it's out of sincere belief that that wisdom's been given to me by our gods and that it's accurate.
00:53:11.920And I'm very, very careful about that.
00:53:15.280And I would never knowingly do wrong by that.
00:53:24.980and it's easier to you know we could streamline a lot of this by pretending that's the case
00:53:32.900but that's not right and the right thing to do is more important um our lord doesn't come to us from
00:53:43.220these one-off divine revelations of like book-sized stuff yes people are inspired and
00:53:50.180And they may have a vision. They may have a moment where one of our gods speaks to them and puts them on a course very clearly.
00:53:57.000And that's enshrined in our lore. But we don't have some instance of, you know, Goethe Olaf in 700 going into some cave and then coming out with a bunch of tablets.
00:54:11.740That's not how this worked for our ancestors. This is the collected understanding of our relationship to our gods over the millennia.
00:54:20.180And it's, that's why it's less smooth than it could be, because that's organic and that's how things work in life.
00:54:30.720That's why it's not as pretty with all the, you know, loose ends tied up perfectly, because that's not real.
00:54:38.400That's easy to do when you're cutting corners or when you're compromising things.
00:54:43.080but that's not how it's not how stuff really develops in that way certainly in my experience
00:54:50.440um so and i think this is a good segue into the text that we're supposed to be talking about
00:54:56.380tonight so some of these stories so again the the eddas were not the eddas are not the bible
00:55:05.560The Eddas are not the Quran. The Eddas are not delivered to us as holy writ. But what they are is collections of materials that reference our most sacred lore.
00:55:21.600Some of them are meaty retellings of true lore. Some of them are poetic exercises done to the backdrop of lore to where the poetic exercise is your ability to incorporate and reference and make these callbacks to stories that are common to the audience in lore.
00:55:44.900and tonight's story is one of those I don't think that there's a point we're supposed to think that
00:55:53.980in some point in mythic time they had this like really rude feast to where this happened I don't
00:55:59.320think that's the idea I think the idea is to take these characters that everyone knows because
00:56:05.060they're their gods and we know these these tales and we know them by heart and then we put them in
00:56:11.800ridiculous situation and make all these little clever references to it as part of a flighting
00:56:19.800story which was common in the poetry of her ancestors and so the irreverence of this piece
00:56:28.360tonight the value of it as a story in our lore and the reason that we don't you know have some fatwa
00:56:34.680on it is because it throws in and it weaves in bits of knowledge that otherwise would be lost
00:56:40.680and it's really interesting and valuable that one but don't don't take the irreverence of this story
00:56:49.320as the point or something that's a you know inappropriate thing i think this is probably
00:56:54.920the close there's other instances you see in the edda's a little bit that do this
00:56:58.840this is probably the closest to the degradation of hellenic faith that the the greeks did to where
00:57:05.960they make the gods a backdrop to a to a comedy uh to an absurd comedy and so keep that in mind0.79
00:57:16.680when we read this i think that people who don't come to this from the same direction that we do
01:10:57.360And so, you know, the idea is that in order to expand dominion,
01:11:03.180you need people who are willing to expand both the land and the folk.
01:11:09.440So that's the meanings behind their names.
01:11:13.740Though there are speculations that it could mean, uh, like a cow and honey, but again, those are things that are needed on farms. Um, but those are, that's my link on those translations. Um, many were there of the gods and elves.
01:11:33.040And I think that's another thing that's a good point is bringing up that the Aesir are often seen as being followed or, you know, accompanied with retinue of Alvar, ascendant beings, both of natural and of once mortal souls.
01:11:52.040souls. Um, Iyer had two serving men, Fimathang, Fimathang means nimble fingers. So I don't know,
01:12:04.940maybe he's not the guy you want to, to check your coats at the beginning of the, the, the, um,
01:12:11.980ceremony and Eldir, of course, the, the old one or the elder one glittering gold they had in place
01:12:21.020of firelight. The ale came in of itself, and great was the peace. The guest praised much the ability
01:12:30.680of Ayr's serving men. Loki might not endure that, and so he slew Fima Fang. Then the gods shook0.85
01:12:42.000their shields and howled at Loki and drove him away into the forest, and thereafter set to drinking
01:12:49.900again, Loki turned back and outside he met Eldir and Loki spoke to him. So it's worth noting here
01:13:00.100that the goodness of all that was happening, the fruitfulness of the ale and the food and
01:13:10.960the entirety of the thing is it can't be abided by loki loki is really starting to show his
01:13:21.360metastasized evil um where you know where he could see positivity he sees negativity and where he uh
01:13:30.720sees praise he has to kill the the the the thing that is praised it's it's like if somebody had0.89
01:13:40.320like a prize you know uh dog or horse and they loved it so much he just had to kill it
01:13:47.040and that's just starting to show the level of where he's at um i think that the part
01:13:54.160where loki might not endure that is a maybe a misspelling because we've seen a couple of those
01:13:59.920in this um but yes so he comes back and he's on the outside kind of skulking around like a varger
01:14:09.760a varg uh an edge dweller um a a wolf that um yelps from the the darkness of the forest but
01:14:20.640is not part of the goodness of society and order um and so he's out there and he says to eldir he
01:14:28.160He says, speak now, Eldir, for not one step farther shalt thou fare.
01:14:38.820What ale talk here do they have within the sons of the glorious gods?
01:14:44.940So now it's like, more or less, what are they talking about now that I'm gone?
01:14:51.200um now that he's he's got kicked out of the party if you will an elder speaks in uh verse two he
01:15:05.140says of their weapons they talk and their might in war the sons of the glorious gods from the
01:15:13.020gods and the elves who gathered here no friend in word shall thou find so you've you've you've0.72
01:15:20.000spent your you've spent it you you know um killing uh the servant of ire has garnered you
01:15:44.160in shall i go into ire's hall for the feast i feign would see bail and hatred i bring to
01:15:54.720the gods and their mead with venom i mix so this is really a
01:16:04.960uh a crucial point to understand this is in between the slaying of balder and
01:16:15.120the ultimate what's going to happen to to loki it hasn't happened yet a lot of people think it's just
01:16:21.840one after the other no this is in between so this is kind of again insult to injury for the sake of
01:16:29.760understanding that as far as a story goes uh like if as the god says you know in the drama of it
01:16:38.640don't fully understand that it was loki's guiding hand that killed balder and that it was all
01:16:47.520rectified once valley the the lord of instant retribution and correction of order um slays
01:16:56.640hov and they you know go and become one in in in uh helgar so that's even more so of a thing to
01:17:06.960to think about like um and it comes to light and that the punishment is then becomes fitting to it
01:17:13.640all so um he says i'll go in and i'll bring venom and hatred and evil to everything i do in there
01:17:22.680and elder speaks in in um in four he says if in thou goest to ire's hall and feign the feast would
01:17:32.940would see, and with slander and spite would sprinkle the gods, then well lest they wipe it
01:17:42.220on thee. So I find it interesting what the usage of the word with the sprinkling or blessing
01:17:51.260um is uh that it's very akin to the way that when we um and our ancestors held bloat uh the
01:18:03.060the asking of the gods to give in return if we are seen worthy the blessing and so he's speaking of
01:18:12.500his blessing as being almost like a blaspheming version of the bloat and then he basically says
01:18:20.040you you should be very very careful because they may wipe it back on you um and loki speaks in five
01:18:29.320he says bethink thee el dear if thou and i shall strive with spiteful speech richer i grow in ready
01:18:38.360words if thou speakest too much to me so this part here is basically saying that you know take heed
01:18:47.240i am i am of great cunning and um sharp tongue so every time you attempt or even and he's kind of
01:18:56.600prospecting that the same with the gods that if they try to attack him with words he will he is
01:19:05.360always growing stronger and faster um in that department it's of course the physicality part
01:19:12.760and they have already run him off. So he's trying to angle his true power, which is words, wit, and
01:19:22.920other notable traits. So now at this point, the audience is like, oh, here we go. The intro is
01:19:34.800done and now it begins and what happens in these poetic verses really um you have to bear in mind
01:19:44.880one the the spitefulness of jibing at people was not always in a foundation of truth
01:19:52.240you can see this um in beowulf um during the symbol and you can see this here as well
01:20:00.560um i think it was more common than a lot of historians care to believe i know that like
01:20:06.640a perfect example of this is um with my ancestors uh there was a great um historian named procopius
01:20:15.440who absolutely hated the germanic tribes and hated a few tribes in particular and uh you know
01:20:22.800he laid grievances upon them that had really no foundation only a motivation to stop um the
01:20:30.640leadership of that time to bring these people into the nation so this is not always seen as
01:20:41.360that it's just simply the truth it's sometimes about how bombastic the lie can be how almost um
01:20:49.840you know uh the blush factor if you will how much is this going to make people uh twist and turn
01:20:58.240and there's a reason why they don't get they haven't killed him already and they
01:21:04.800they won't kill him here uh is is will be established if you're wondering so
01:21:13.040so i think a important thing to note is this um
01:21:17.120Um, this theme of like spreading slander, mockery, and hatred amongst what is an otherwise joyful, you know, mead hall event.
01:21:39.120And it's a common theme and a motif that goes throughout our mythos.
01:21:47.100And I think it's important to always remember that the idea that there's always treachery and forces of chaos using slander and lies and mockery and, you know,
01:22:17.100And sowing seeds of doubt and stuff is a common thing that prevents people from having nice things.
01:22:26.840This is a common thing in our lore that holds folks back.
01:22:31.020It's one of the impetuses for victory never sleeps.
01:22:36.200you got to keep moving forward because there's always this crab in the bucket negative force
01:22:44.280trying to sow dissent and treachery in the hearts and the ranks of the noble and this is
01:22:52.840important to me and i think it's a time to uh i don't know harken back to the wolves that are
01:23:00.680ever at the heels of of suna and mani um one is named the hater and the other the mocker
01:23:15.320so i think that's a hati in school so yeah keep that in mind that's always this
01:23:23.240very prominent tool of chaos in our myths and in the world observable around us at this very moment
01:23:34.360is that sewing doubt and treachery amongst amongst the noble in order to
01:23:41.160you know snatch defeat from the jaws of victory so cool yeah i think there's there's an empathizing
01:23:51.480that i see amongst a lot of the internet detritus that i've run into over the years
01:23:56.520um where they kind of this is where they empathize with uh with the kinslayer and um
01:24:08.280the internet detritus is the forces that i mean that we see around us that want to spread
01:24:15.880oh yes defeat and treachery amongst noble people trying to do noble things and i think it's funny
01:24:25.800that they see instinctively see a kinship there it's a red flag
01:24:37.240well and i mean specifically too because i should be clear like1.00
01:24:41.240Like bale workers, baneful folk who do carry this kind of in incessant need to dissolve1.00
01:24:50.620good things, uh, may think that they're good people, but that they just, they should be1.00
01:24:57.760running things or they should be doing things, or if I was doing, you know, and all that
01:25:01.080stuff, those people aside, which still follow that same pattern, I'm kind of more referring
01:25:06.180to the lokians if you will um that you know i see these self-proclaimed uh people talk about
01:25:13.620that's what those people are though like that's the thing is always being the contrarian
01:25:23.380always it's kind of an interesting thing that
01:25:30.580this is a aside and we won't dwell on this too much but it's something interesting that i noticed
01:25:35.380and i don't know if this is just me being an old man or if it's still relevant but
01:25:41.700something really interesting happened i don't know 10 5 10 years ago that really affects stuff
01:25:51.780we had this strange shift in the west as far as currents go where traditionalism became edgy so
01:26:01.540all the edge lords tried to be edge lords by being super traditional and it made a really strange
01:35:23.920Stand forth then, Vidar, and let the wolf's father find a seat at our feast.
01:35:31.540Lest evil should Loki speak aloud here within Ayr's Hall.
01:35:36.520And so he beckons his, or he beckons Vidar, again, very, very interesting because a couple of things, the mythos of Vidar is that he resides alone awaiting Ragnarok.
01:35:55.280And that, again, chronologically would then place this as being something after this moment.
01:36:01.500But, you know, again, he refers to Loki as Fenris' father.
01:36:07.880And he says, you know, we will give him room to speak so long as he does not speak and desanctify the holiness of this place.
01:36:48.140he is a silent house silently that's one of the things that's interesting to me is he
01:36:57.340one of his so a couple of things and and it's worth reiterating because uh vidar is one of our
01:37:03.900our gods that not a lot has reached us about but a couple of things that everybody familiar with
01:37:13.820you know the audience for this poem would be well and understanding is eventually
01:37:22.700vidar is going to dole out justice to to fenrir when he like you know he makes that point of
01:37:33.980yeah let the you know vidar stand up and let the the wolf's father sit down
01:37:39.820he knows that he's going to be instrumental in slaying uh fenrir and in being part of this
01:37:48.780justice situation that goes on he's also um they mentioned earlier that thor's not around
01:37:55.900he's off fighting giants and doing his thing so he's not there one of the few facts we know about
01:38:01.900vidar is he's likened to he's he's almost as strong as the lord like he's kind of like the
01:38:12.300the stand in you know he's likened to thor if thor's not there then he's
01:38:17.340you know then he's the strong guy that's there you know he's the next strongest at that
01:38:24.220it's just kind of interesting because you got to do these things and you know in silence
01:38:29.260be part of this process and knowing how this plays out later it's it's an interesting
01:38:38.220tension in the poem yeah and a link there with the fenrir and vidar and i think too it kind of
01:38:47.660again shows why we often look at vidar as a not only a god of vengeance or of karma in the long
01:38:56.460run but also the one of silent devotion and the one that arises and does the bidding um despite
01:39:04.780perhaps the internal conflicts that stand in the way um kind of relinquishing his personal
01:39:12.620for the betterment because of of being that the decree lord othen decrees it to him so
01:39:19.420he doesn't very much a a testament to duty
01:39:29.580and of course um uh loki gets his horn he's uh then vidar arose and poured drink for loki but
01:39:42.700before he drank he speaks to the gods or he spoke to the god excuse me in 11. hail to you gods ye
01:39:52.220goddesses hail hail to the holy throng save for the god who yonder sits brahi there on the bench
01:40:03.500so at this point because brahi was the first one to speak up against him and say like no the gods
01:40:11.260um know well who they're gonna have amongst um and now the fact that this situation has
01:40:17.740changed he's basically rubbing it in his nose and brahi speaks
01:40:26.060uh 12 a horse and a sword from my horde will i give and a ring gives bragi to boot
01:40:35.500that hatred thou makest not amongst the gods so rouse not the great ones to wrath he's he basically
01:40:43.740says i will give you things if you do not take this too far and i think that there's a there's
01:40:53.500a combination here one it's i it's lending to the idea that bri also can kind of see things as they
01:41:03.340develop he knows where things are going to go and it's not the place to do this and so he's
01:41:10.140talking about unseemliness and impropriety and it's i also think it's kind of funny because he
01:41:16.540he uses like the language of the the craven and the cunning which is bribery um and i i think
01:41:23.100that's um very very funny um but um it doesn't quite work so uh loki speaks or he says sorry
01:41:38.460so rouse do not rouse the the the gods or the great ones um wrath and loki speaks
01:41:44.940In horses and rings thou shalt never be rich, brai, but both shall you lack.
01:41:55.020Of the gods and elves here together met, least brave in battle art thou, and shyest thou art of the shot.
01:42:05.100So he's basically calling him a coward and saying that he is not brave in battle.
01:42:11.840this is interesting because it seems more as in the story is making it personal
01:42:19.420as a general sense brahi being the um uh scald of the gods and then at that time scalds oftentimes
01:42:31.800were warriors as well and that so there wasn't this um sense that you know if you read poetry
01:42:38.800you're not a warrior as well but this just seems to be more personal and again it goes big and it
01:42:46.560goes bombastic and fast and isn't really in the relevance of truth so he calls him a coward
01:42:57.920and that uh he's shy now this part here too when he talks about and shyest thou art of the shot
01:43:04.240that is the person who runs away when when they get shot at by arrows uh doesn't hold the line
01:43:13.600you're the one that doesn't hold the line when the arrows come um and that's you know again the
01:43:23.280coward cowardice um and bragi spake in 14 now where i without as i am within0.96
01:43:33.200And here in Ayershall, thine head would I bear in my hands away and pay thee the price of thy lies.1.00
01:43:42.640So he returns and says, you know, if we weren't here and if we weren't in this sacred feast, I would cut your head off and carry it like a trophy and pay you for your lying tongue.0.98
01:44:01.180um loki speaks again in 15 and he says in thy seat art thou bold not so are thy deeds0.98
01:44:09.980brai adorner of benches go out and fight if angered thou feelest no hero such forethought has
01:44:19.120so brave from the seats um but not on the streets no it's uh it's he's he's accusing him
01:44:30.280of of um you know uh being a bench warmer and i i love that i love that line adorer of benches
01:46:50.620um yeah i was going to say that the biggest point of our ancestors understanding that blood
01:47:00.480brotherhood means that very much like fostering um if you were say an a parent and you took on a
01:47:08.580child and brought them into your blood uh as like not a blood brother but like a blood child
01:47:16.220they abided by the rules. It's the same as if you make a brother or a sister. They abide by
01:47:23.980the rules that are applied to someone who was physically born into the family. So one of the
01:47:33.900key points that I always bring up is that he is bound by the caveat that if you were to slay your
01:47:43.220blood brothers children you are in essence slaying your own family you're you're a kinslayer and that
01:47:51.680is a very important point as to why it's so grievous what he has done and the retribution
01:48:00.000against him um especially since it's kind of left in uh the open um the uh the loss of
01:48:09.360Loki's children are seen as directly, or sorry, Loki's child is directly fitting versus, you know, killing him outright because of the ambiguity of the crime.
01:48:21.320But a kinslayer nonetheless, you know, malicious killing of kin is seen as wrong.
01:59:14.220let's see indeed yes sir ovin spoke 21 mad art thou loki and little of wit the wrath of
01:59:25.740gevion to rouse for the fate that is set for all that all she sees even as i me thinks so he says
01:59:38.060that it's foolish for Loki to speak ill words to Gavion and to turn her wrath because she knows
01:59:49.240not only just the fate, but how to manipulate the fate. This is a common thing that goes on
01:59:57.220when we speak of the Nornir. The Nornir are much like the matroness or the desir of the gods.
02:00:08.060and that our de-seer are also the twisters of fate.
02:00:15.420So I think that this is something that a lot of people miss,
02:00:17.640is the idea that we wish to be in the good graces of our de-seer
02:00:26.440because they do extol benefit if we hold to our troth to the gods,
02:00:35.300if we hold to our troth to the ancestors.
02:00:38.060If we build our people up and we build families with our people, we gain the boom. If we turn away from that, we gain the loss of it. We gain the, you know, ire of the matrons.
02:00:59.100And so this is always done, even with, like, say, with the Holy Freya, she's called the Vana Dis, she's the Disir of the Vanir, she has the ability to twist the fate of things, and that's what he's saying, is that Gevion can twist your fate, and it would be foul for you to speak against her.0.98
02:01:21.000Um, and then this is where it, it gets the kind of the, this is the threshold to the beginning of the end, um, as it now has been satelliting around, uh, Lord Odin, and now that's broken.
02:01:41.560um loki speaks again and says to lord othen in 22 be silent othen not justly thou settest the fate
02:01:53.680of the fight among men oft gavest thou to him who deserved not the gift to the baser the battle's
02:02:02.480prize. And so he accuses Lord Oven of giving victory to the ones who are not deserving that
02:02:15.720the, the brave or the, um, the ones who exalt themselves away from their mortality are of
02:02:24.520course, reaped up by Lord Ovin in order to fill the, the throng of warriors in heaven to fight
02:02:33.420against the forces of chaos. So that makes sense. You want to take the ones who are the best and
02:02:40.400the brightest, but oftentimes at the cost, he's saying you've given lesser men the victory on
02:02:47.020earth and um you know even though it's i could speak of it like that and kind of make sense of
02:02:54.940it in essence what he's saying is that's wrong you you uh you give the ones who love you the most
02:03:00.700you give the ones that exceed their understanding of of mortality and
02:03:06.380you reap them up and everyone else has to deal with the other guy winning um
02:03:13.100Um, and Odin speaks in 23, though I gave to him who deserved not the gift to the base
02:03:25.520or the battles prize winter's eight was thou under the earth milking the cows as a maid
02:03:33.600a and the babes didst thou bear unmanly thy soul must seem.
02:03:39.300So this is where it gets really interesting. It's the only thing I can think of. So the idea that he is under the earth for eight winters and they're milking the cows as a maid.
02:04:02.980I have thought a lot about this. I don't know if this is allegoric in the sense that he is referring perhaps to something that the audience understood, or that this is, again, another mythical dead end.
02:04:21.880um however what he is accusing uh loki of is you know pretending to be a woman and not in the sense
02:04:33.540of i mean that he can shape change himself into a woman and that he bore children um from these
02:04:41.680unnatural unions and that he does not have a noble soul. Um, so, you know, it's, it's, uh,
02:04:55.420it's interesting because again, I don't have a ton to go off of when it, we've talked about
02:05:00.280the, the, the, you know, milking of cows as a maid, other than that there might be some
02:05:08.440very kind of deep and out there reasons. Um, but they, you see this again, that there's the0.59
02:05:17.280accusation of pretending to be a woman is seen as an, a very, very alien thing. It's seen as something
02:05:25.960that, um, noble men do not do. And it's seen as alien. It, it, it's specifically blurring
02:05:37.600the correct way of things and that's what makes it such a grievous crime um
02:05:44.340so loki speaks back in return in 24 they say that with spells in samsi once like witches with charms
02:05:54.640did thou work and in witches guise among men didst thou go unmanly thy soul must seem
02:06:01.780Um, so now there is a retort that he claims and you'll see people who, uh, I've seen Christians who try to, um, you know, utilize this as some like, aha, I got your moment.
02:06:19.700um no again these are these are bombastic um insults and and until lord othen it was relatively
02:06:29.880calm but then he he throws down the heavy on it and um and in return it's the same retort no you0.80
02:06:36.640you dressed like a woman and lived on this island and you know you learned how to be a witch and0.96
02:06:43.340cast spells from them and you know walked around as a transvestite and um you know that's unmanly0.99
02:06:51.020too so the one thing that i think when you run into people uh talking about this is they just0.99
02:06:59.600automatically believe everything that's being said instead of looking at the fact that the
02:07:03.940insult itself is supposed to be so egregious that it it detracts from someone's honor and
02:07:12.480they don't realize that the subject matter of the accusation is what's detracting from their honor
02:07:19.240and that entails what is good and what is bad right or wrong or i mean not right or wrong but uh
02:07:26.500correct or um uh truth truthful it doesn't matter it's really it's the it's wrong and that's what
02:07:37.940they're focusing on. And I think that some people kind of get lost in that. And again,
02:07:45.280you'll also notice something else that happens. Every time that one of the holy
02:07:51.200house or a house or god is attacked one of the our senior the respective the wife steps in to
02:08:04.640stand up for her man and also to try to negotiate peace because again breaking and maintaining the
02:08:14.240sacredness of a place is really really important and i think that it would it's also very very
02:08:20.080important to the to the female soul or the female women of of our especially from our ancestors
02:08:28.080times as maintaining the sanctity and the faithfulness of a holy place um especially a
02:08:35.360feast where things have been oathed as to not happen no slaying no you know pulling of weapons
02:08:41.120or what have you and um so you know you see that again here reiterated because braai and then idun
02:08:51.120and then lord ovin freak um though it might just be worth noting that the poets
02:09:00.560were utilizing that as a natural thing they would they saw the the holy gods as couples
02:09:07.280um i know i have done some artwork where i i counter balanced um the artwork showing like
02:09:15.640the high one odin and frick and thor and sif and you know going like that um because that duality
02:09:26.400and understanding of the masculine and feminine is so important um but yeah you see it here
02:11:14.760um it's important to note also that there's kind of a um
02:11:22.880a common refrain that you know it's unmanly to use magic as opposed to you know feet of arms
02:11:36.120when fighting and as opposed to you know outright gender transgression it's
02:11:43.320them getting mad because odin is a sorcerer and has magical powers to him that he employs
02:11:54.180to win things when like no real men win through you know the ability to swing a sword and heft an
02:12:02.920axe and you're over here winning with you know your your spells and your you know
02:12:07.540girly magic you're using and i think that's a that's a part of it that's a theme in there and
02:12:13.820it's obviously taken in an extreme direction to make it again to increase the bombast as as fawn0.99
02:12:22.840was saying but you know that's part of the refrain is like no you suck you're unmanly because you0.99
02:12:30.460don't go out there and fight with your hands you're you're busy you know working spells and0.99
02:12:35.100to imagine. And that's, you'll run into that multiple times in the lore as kind of a point
02:12:43.260of controversy. Also want to point out, Lauren Anderson joined the VNS Coffee Club, donating
02:12:50.000$5 a month to keep making stuff happen and keep the coffee flowing. We appreciate that,
02:12:57.080thank you thank you um we move on to 26 and in 26 there's an interesting thing because i
02:13:07.160i believe there was actually a mistake or a misspelling from the original text um
02:13:15.240that i i think has thrown a lot of people off and they attempt to make a rationale behind it
02:13:20.200but it's one word simply one word that may have been um utilized incorrectly um that
02:13:31.000throws everything off so loki speaks in 26 he says be silent frig thou art fjörgen's wife
02:13:43.540so that's an interesting part there because fjörgen of course in the subject matter
02:13:49.620is referring to lord odin and some people this really throws them off because um
02:13:56.360frigg is born of fjorkin who is her mother the earth fjorkin is another name for yarth
02:14:07.320the the the vana goddess of the earth and so i i believe that the the um misspelling there is wife
02:14:18.140and that it was, you know, like I said, I can't say that it was meant to be,
02:14:25.780but the use of the word instead of wife as daughter would completely clear all of that up
02:14:32.700because it is already established that Fjorkin is the mother of Frigg.
02:14:39.060There is also a reference of Fjorkin being either masculine or neutral in its usage,
02:14:45.100but so is also the word yard um but yes though the wife and daughter usage i think got mixed up and
02:14:54.700that's just me kind of going out on a limb and saying that i believe that that kind of that's
02:14:59.820where it got twisted up and it creates this thing where people try to really work their way around
02:15:06.220it uh that and you know oh then is the earth and oh then is the sky and oh then is this and oh then
02:15:11.740is everything and all this is just they're fragments of the consciousness of odin and
02:15:17.020we're really monotheists surprise you know i think it gets it gets wild i've seen some crazy stuff um
02:15:24.380anyways so he says be silent frank thou art fjorkin's wife but ever lustful in love for
02:15:31.340villi and vey thou wife of vidrir is another haiti of odin uh both in thy bosom have lain
02:15:40.540Now, this is an interesting thing. One of the points that I pull about the mythos of the gods is about the tripartite and specifically their positions, the dynamic position, and that Lord Odin is three and one, and one but three.
02:16:00.640So this accusation is kind of funny in that sense that they are not separate, but he, I mean, in this story here, and it's certainly from the poet's point, you know, is viewing them as separate entities.
02:16:18.640And that could be a thing from our ancestors' times, perhaps, or it was just an understanding from the poet's point of view.
02:16:28.520And again, the accusation is more important than the details of how it all makes sense.
02:16:36.500The accusation of saying that the king of the gods, his wife, is sleeping with her brothers, or with his brothers, is egregious.
02:17:20.500and would have to meet an ill fate this goes against a lot of the christianization of balder
02:17:27.860that was done by snorty and that's again another reason why we don't look at the stories as like
02:17:34.660biblical or or you know man-made religions appease logic but ours was a culmination of
02:17:44.980stories but certainly snorty definitely played some stuff there he he heavily heavily christianized
02:17:51.620um balder and here she's saying no he's he would smite you um versus you know he would
02:18:00.900turn the other cheek if you will um and i i think that's uh another important point to note you know
02:18:08.900Some people were speaking on, I believe, Twitter, where they were speaking about how Balder himself is a construction of a Christ-like figure by Snorty alone.
02:18:25.420And I brought up the point, no, Balder is actually mentioned outside of Snorty's works, whereas Loki isn't.
02:18:33.560so that's you know worth noting fighting a locian as to the validity of of the divine um but again
02:18:42.000without their awareness they just seem to understand that uh that that he's not mentioned
02:18:48.180outside of uh snorty's works but balder is in saxo grammaticus and he's again euhemorized as a man
02:18:56.220but he is a brutal warrior so um and then loki returns in 28 a retort he says thou wilt then
02:19:09.700frig that further i tell of the ill that i now uh that now i know mine is the blame
02:19:17.940that balder's no more thou seest ride home to the hall so there's the that's the tension breaker
02:19:29.860that's the big crooks that's the zenith of it all is he says i'm the reason that balder is no more
02:19:39.060um that's you know that's the dun dun moment in the story um because the gods did not know that
02:19:52.260or you know in the stories and in the in the series of all things to make it like a timeline
02:19:57.620oh they this this is in between balder's death and what inevitably become the the binding of loki
02:20:05.140um freya speaks 29 mad thou art loki that known thou makest the wrong and shame thou hast wrought
02:20:21.480the fate of all does frig no well though herself she say it not so
02:20:30.260i've always in the stories that i tell you know she stands up and like0.82
02:20:36.820just is it you know fiery hot because she's uh she's saying that you know there's no way that
02:20:44.300um lady frigg could not know this and that you're he's speaking madness he's speaking
02:20:51.280simply just to drive even an extra sense of hatred in in this as they had lost balder and he was the
02:21:01.080greatest hero of all the gods um the perfect balance between strength and intelligence beauty
02:21:07.800and um uh you know presence and command um the the noble soul the the renaissance man if you will
02:21:19.440You know what I mean. But, you know, and just to be spiteful, you're mad to think that she doesn't know.
02:21:29.040But it's, you know, again, it is part of that whole tension building.
02:21:35.880and Loki speaks be silent Freya for fully I know the sinless thou art not thyself of the gods and
02:21:46.080elves who are gathered here each one as thy lover has lain so he calls her a harlot and says that
02:21:53.240you know she has slept with everyone in the hall and this this verse in particular is really
02:22:01.020important i think in emphasizing the point i'm trying to make um in this one there's no cryptic
02:22:11.580sense of like is there another story about her you know laying with every elf in this hall or
02:22:17.900what no it's just the insult itself and the value that it has in in our ancestor society1.00
02:22:25.820to say that you know she's just a harlot and has laid with everyone in this hall um and that she's
02:22:31.660not you know free of of of um you know the uh ill illness of an unseemliness if you will
02:22:44.700but it doesn't lean towards any sort of like strange events brothers or unspoken things
02:22:52.700and i think that's the one that really i started to kind of feel like wait a minute what if this is
02:22:57.980just that it's not the details but the weight of the entire comment that has value amongst our
02:23:05.900our ancestors amongst us i mean it would not be an uncommon thing for you know a drunken churl at
02:23:14.860the party to right shut up you're a you know right that's a
02:23:24.300that's insulting in the same way today to you know a lady at a noble event1.00
02:23:32.700you know and some drunken jerk comes in to try to start stuff that's an effective way to start1.00
02:23:41.340problems. I think that has, that doesn't need a lot of context or translation because it's still0.97
02:23:49.240very, very relevant in our time. Yeah. And I should, I'm glad you reemphasize that. It's not
02:23:55.760that there's a separation like this is allowable in our time. Certainly somebody screaming that
02:24:01.700someone's a whore is not as eloquent as a poem, but you know, the, yeah, the, the effect is still0.95
02:24:08.760the same. And again, just as today and back then, if, if it was in a sanctified place, perhaps a0.97
02:24:18.120place placed with oaths that you are not allowed to resort to violence there, and that doing so
02:24:28.960would somehow affect your hominia and affect the oath, that's the buildup. What are the gods going0.84
02:24:35.340do they're bound and he's utilizing that against them to sling all these insults um
02:24:47.900so yeah that's that's 30 i didn't know if do we have any
02:24:52.220um more questions between i don't think we have any kind of interlude on that let's just kind of
02:24:58.460keep rolling with the story oh yeah it's hot right now it's the moment that the holy freya steps in
02:25:04.860it's like it starts to get pretty spicy um freya speaks false is thy tongue and soon thou shalt find0.93
02:25:14.620that it sings thee an evil song the gods are wroth and the goddess is all and in grief thou shalt0.91
02:25:23.020go uh thou shalt or grief shalt thou homeward go so now this is starting to level the idea
02:25:31.980you're safe here but you gotta travel home like outside of this place you might be having a very
02:25:40.860baleful trip and i think that's you know you know your your tongue is telling lies
02:25:48.140and it's singing you a song one that is going to bind you um to pain and misery because you
02:25:55.740you are going back uh you can't go back from this uh but he's all in
02:26:06.460loki speaks at 32 he says be silent freya thou foulest witch uh and steeped full sore in sin
02:26:17.500in the arms of thy brother thy bright gods caught me when freya her wind set free
02:26:25.740So, okay, this verse in particular has always been very, very interesting.
02:26:35.200um generally it's translated to that loki speaks that the gods or some of some of the gods in
02:26:46.600prominence found uh her in an incestuous relationship and that she um released gas
02:26:57.820she she farted is kind of how it's often translated and um i mean in essence that's
02:27:05.140kind of what he is he is saying so not only is he accusing her of incest but also just of
02:27:11.020impropriety and and uh turlishness if you will um and again her being of royalty now it is spoken
02:27:20.940in in the earlier uh that the vanir and the asa um that the vanir did practice this unification
02:27:29.900between brother and sister and bloodline but that was not accepted amongst the ice here i
02:27:35.620don't because we know that the the unioning of gods is not like mortals it's clearly about this
02:27:45.660the, you know, the conflagration of energy, but, and, and what produces out of that, but it was
02:27:52.840certainly you hemorrhizing the gods towards tribal life. And I think specifically when people talk0.58
02:27:58.840about migration period, and we talk about the waves of, you know, stone age, bronze age, and
02:28:06.840eventually iron age, um, folk coming from the same area as they interluded with each other. I think
02:28:13.820they had a lot of, you know, cultural issues. And I think that might've been something of
02:28:18.540that nature, but, um, um, at this point, uh, the father of Freya speaks up in 33, he says,
02:28:40.320small ill does it work though a woman may have a lord or a lover or both but a wonder it is
02:28:50.320that this womanish god comes hither though babes he has born so it's
02:28:59.840it is of no great significance for you to accuse that a woman may have a lord or a lover or both
02:29:14.880like that that the infidelities of of um of of a woman uh especially just in the speculation
02:29:23.220but your speculation has even less weight when we factually know that you have turned into a woman0.73
02:29:32.780and born children like so you've got the accusations we've got the proof and that
02:29:40.540would of course make sense because by this time already we you know we've we've talked about uh
02:29:45.660his going out and unioning with anger and creating the wolf and the foul children.
02:29:58.360So he's basically saying, you know, your accusations have very little weight
02:30:02.160when we have so much hard evidence at your ill deeds.
02:30:05.620uh and loki returns in 34 he says be silent thou thou wast eastward sent was wast eastward sent
02:30:22.060excuse me to the gods as a hostage given and the daughters of hymir their privy had when when use
02:30:30.760uh, when use did they make of thy mouth? Oof. So the first part there is, um, again, that the,0.63
02:30:44.020the waning, the, the lords of life are seen as to have come from the west. So eastward from that
02:30:52.460place but in specifics they're talking about um heaven and um that he was a hostage so that is
02:31:03.740again an attack on his manliness as um instead of being you know a fighter
02:31:08.860you were part of a peace agreement and then this latter part um
02:33:40.600um and this here too speaks of another point that i i often talk about when we talk about
02:33:47.640lore and some of the people that kind of try to contextualize things this line here um
02:33:56.680North spoke great was my gain though long was I gone to the gods as a hostage given the son did
02:34:04.240I have whom no man hates and foremost of the gods is found. A couple of things we've referred to
02:34:10.740this line before. One is that it seems that and perhaps it isn't again another lost story or
02:34:20.400that it was just simply understood. But after the hostaging, there was a unification of the gods
02:34:27.760and that the pathways between Vanaheim and the heavenly realm and Ausgarder were opened up. And
02:34:36.440so Njordr is not seen as being simply bound in heaven forever, but that has the leeway to move
02:34:49.280about the other is that at this point the vanir and the icier become one and they all take the
02:34:58.720title icier there is no vana true you can't just like ounce out the one to the other no they are
02:35:05.920unified now and under one banner and they speak of um the holy fray as one of the best house
02:35:16.080so he's referred to as an ausa here not a not a vanir and so you know i wanted to point that out
02:35:23.780i think a lot of folks get in the weeds trying to sectionalize the gods for different reasons
02:35:29.900um i think the big thing is they try to feel like bronze age is vanir and iron age is icier and
02:35:40.020And they want to separate themselves from the mean, evil, Yamnaya, Kurgan, Aryan genociders who came in and the Vanir were just farming and macrame-ing and singing Kumbaya.0.71
02:35:55.860It's just a common theme that people try to reemphasize that this was a thing.0.96
02:38:53.500uh that frey and freya are born after the war and after the hostaging um which you know is
02:39:05.320just interesting and then that there's also reference that he brings frey with him but also
02:39:13.380in the ying linga saga it's mentioned that he you know uh had like relations with his
02:39:21.000a wife, but again, the Yingling Saga is heavily euhemorized. But I think ultimately, the twin
02:39:30.920conceptualization throughout the Vanir, as, you know, before the unification, and clearly it
02:39:41.640presides still thereafter, is that there is a twinning sense of the lord and the lady.
02:39:47.620And I don't think that that spoke any different from the Lord of Waters and Yarth, the lady of estuary or of lagoons and moorlands and swamp and, you know, saturated lands, the fruitful lands that give, you know, are rich in moisture.
02:40:14.020um as i think this may lend more towards the um understanding of how the the vanir especially
02:40:23.220with their close connection to water and the earth produce biphetic children or from each
02:40:31.540other in order to create like uh you know it's almost like a season uh there's a cyclical nature0.94
02:40:38.280to it. Um, but then Tyr speaks in 37, uh, of the heroes, brave is frayed the best here in the home
02:40:53.160of the gods. He harms not maids, nor the wives of men and the bound and the bound from their
02:41:01.020fetters. He frees. So this is a super interesting one for a couple of reasons. One it's the goodness
02:41:06.440of it is is that he he is not a um a seducer of men's wives and he is not one who would take on
02:41:15.980maidens he's not one who tries to take young girls he's not pursuing them he's he's a man of virtue
02:41:25.200who you know um does not give his love out so easily so freely which again is the whole kind
02:41:33.400of point of Skirnermal. And then, you know, that the bounder freed from fetters, this is a trait
02:41:41.160that's often attributed to Lord Odin, but it's also attributed to the holy fray. And I think that's
02:41:48.780interesting. I don't, I mean, again, we, we talk about our, our gods is not being pigeonholed in
02:41:54.940one way or another. And certainly the holy fray was placed in the tripartite, especially amongst
02:42:01.540the swedes um so you know i just i it's definitely giving a nod to his the very high
02:42:12.020holding sense that that our ancestors had uh for um the holy fray as being also a god of kinship or
02:42:23.140kingship so i i and i just i like the fact he's not a he's not a hound dog
03:08:38.800So I ended up actually going, getting a pizza with her and her husband just so she could meet me and talk to me and get to know the person that, you know, just moved here and stuff.
03:08:50.360We constantly have people stop by out of Sigurheim while we're working.
03:08:55.720I've had a lady come by and I'm up underneath the lawnmower working on it, trying to fix something because I ran over something.
03:09:04.260and she offers to help and goes home and grabs uh some ramps so we can ramp the uh the lawnmower
03:09:12.800up and i can get underneath it easier her husband came by after a couple hours later just to chit
03:09:18.440chat about that and about mowing uh we just recently at sigger brought had a member from
03:09:24.980the community right there in whitleyville come by and ask to like be a part of things and get to
03:09:31.060know us and like join us in blocks and it's it's so i really i think i'm almost bad that
03:09:40.980kind of stole some of my words and my thoughts on it but he when you're saying at some point like
03:09:47.820you whether you like to know it or not you have the choice of where you live and where you work
03:09:54.880And if you can't live your life the way you want to live your life, there are other places you can live and other places you can work and be just as successful and just as happy and not have to worry.
03:10:09.860Because really, if other people are imposing their problems on you, it's not your responsibility to let that affect you.
03:10:22.220You know, what is the childhood thing?
03:12:59.980forces of chaos dissipate um we do that by just being ourselves that's the thing
03:13:09.880we don't do that by you know compromising our values or catering to people we don't agree with
03:13:16.580we do it by just being honest fair people you know i didn't do that at all and it was kind of
03:13:21.780a running joke, um, about my, you know,
03:13:29.060folkishness, uh, amongst my coworkers, uh, when I was bouncing, but it's funny. You know,
03:13:35.940I was with some of my friends on the weekend and we're in the sketchy part of town and some,0.96
03:13:40.640you know, thugged out gangster looking people of color were, were approaching us and everybody's
03:13:47.480terrified no they want to come give me a big hug and whatever because I always treated them fair0.95
03:13:53.400and that's you know what I would want from them that's what I always give people is treating
03:14:00.520them fairly and you know we're known by our by our deeds we are our deeds so don't
03:14:11.240I mean we can we can beat the subject to death but by being who you are by living the example
03:14:16.760And by doing it proudly, every one of us who does it makes it that much easier for the next guy and makes employers or people that interact with us in any circumstance have like, hey, you know, I met an out-of-the-true guy one time and he was cool.
03:14:49.360So the next question here from Trent, from Gauthier Trent East.
03:14:56.400Question for both Ozheri Gauthier and Witten Harrell.
03:15:00.800What are you each most looking forward to about moving to Sigurheim?
03:15:08.200Svon, what are you most looking forward to when the Harrells move to the home of victory?
03:15:14.760two things i think would be really cool one obviously the condensement the ability to be
03:15:20.560able to just walk across your yard to someone who normally your interactions with are via text or
03:15:28.060email and it's like or zoom calls it's that that barrier being broken nothing more than i want that
03:15:37.120to be the case because again i i'm i'm very good with stuff right in front of me but
03:15:43.980anything in the periphery is so hard for me to attain. Um, I think also too, though,
03:15:54.020the mark of going there for me would be a testament of, um, being at a certain
03:16:01.160state in my life financially. Um, I don't intend to go there, um, without having certain
03:16:12.760things figured out and i think it would it would allow me to cater to my people with my craft
03:16:19.980um and maybe the local area i don't know but i don't need to like i have to go and find a
03:16:27.160scramble and do all of this no i think that going there i'd be able to apply my craft and do certain
03:16:34.340things um with my folk and not have to worry about you know keeping my head above water um
03:16:41.560So that's going to be a huge part of it. And then on top of that, you know, I had a runic master. I was hearing jokes about like the Shambhala guy living somewhere up in the mountains.
03:16:59.100No, I had a runic teacher who spoke of a very interesting thing where he saw that the runes of the Elder Futhark specifically were epochs of time.
03:17:14.000And he thoroughly believed when I was learning under him that we were in the epoch of the sun or solo and that there would come a time in which we would I would bear witness to the transference of the age into the age of the rune that follows the sun.
03:17:36.440and um i always thought that was a really odd thing for him to say i mean obviously we're
03:17:42.260talking about the runes so it's not that odd it's it portents is kind of a thing but i i always just
03:17:48.840was like how would i even know what is what does that even mean how can i determine that
03:17:54.200and then it all made perfect sense about a year and a half ago so it all started to come into
03:18:00.880to being so i honestly and truly believe that this is part of a larger willfully manufactured
03:18:12.380by the divine situation and so to do that would be basically fulfilling the very thing that my
03:18:20.980rune teacher said would happen that's it's huge it's pretty big but that's what i'm looking forward
03:18:27.540to spawns got the flowers in his eyes the word from uh shambhala is that um we are we're in the
03:18:37.700age of tear with sigurheim um i am looking forward to all of the grandiosity and the glory of sitting
03:18:55.060in the great hall at sigerheim with the hoff to tear on the ridge and the mighty alsa true folk
03:19:04.180assembly rising around us but all of it and i'm a thousand percent in on all of that
03:19:12.820coolest thing that i'm looking forward to is
03:19:19.460i was thinking about this a while ago is just sitting here doing this and having like
03:19:24.020trent bust in with some nonsense or whatever or hearing you know down the hall you know the young's
03:19:32.660daughter playing with my daughter hearing these just the day-to-day interaction
03:19:41.060with our folk to where it's not a special occasion it's not a you know once a month go to the hoff
03:19:49.380It's not a, you know, let's have a special get together and bring people in from wherever.
03:20:18.060she's going to make sure everything's decorated nice and set up awesome i'm genuinely excited
03:20:24.140about that um just stuff being able to have our full have that organic day-to-day community of
03:20:33.260interacting with each other on a daily basis as an extended family um because that's really the dream
03:20:43.180when i when i first got involved in house true you know that it was let's have people over to
03:20:55.100my house once a month i can do that let's have people over once a month we'll cook a meal
03:21:00.460hang out together and that's still something i harken back to matter of fact coming up on saturday
03:21:07.660if you're in the reno area get a hold of me because i'm having my dinner on this saturday but
03:21:13.180that's my roots and i still try to do that as much as possible and we'll definitely be doing
03:21:18.920that out at sigerheim um but bringing in people into my house sitting around my table
03:21:24.820it's not those times so when that was our only thing we would do a large part of it would be
03:21:33.880this that i'm saying we would also have bloat and stumble we'll do the higher religious things as
03:21:39.320well but a lot of it is just spending that time building friendships and building relationships
03:21:46.560with people I care about around a meal or a task or a hey let's all jump in the car and run to the
03:21:54.640store whatever it might be it can be the most simple of things but spending that time together
03:22:00.960when I got started this when this started in my life that's what it was about was trying to bring
03:22:08.060that closer together i'd always encourage everybody like hey if you guys need to crash here
03:22:12.940you know whatever trying to elongate that more it was really cool after midsummer a whole bunch
03:22:20.140of people to get over to uh odentoff in california the big artery is is uh i80 to get over there so
03:22:28.700a whole lot of people had to come through reno where we live in order to be there so on the way
03:22:34.300home a number of people kind of stopped off and you know i the erickson's were out here so they
03:22:40.780were staying at my house and this other you know guy that's lives in uh southern california i'm
03:22:47.260sorry southern nevada went through reno to get there so he stopped on his way back and
03:22:53.100you know hung it it was cool to just sit with cliff and uh our buddy from from south nevada
03:22:59.660dawson just just sitting in the living room you know talking about stuff having a beer whatever
03:23:06.540spending that time together without the stress of it being an event it just being that's that's what
03:23:12.300life is when i started going to national events and originally um you know we just had that one
03:23:18.700in california mid-summer in the sierras i was spending the whole year in anticipation of this
03:23:26.220one you know four day weekend where i could live the way i wanted where i was surrounded by
03:23:34.140our afa family and that was like my real life and the rest of the year was spent
03:23:40.460in anticipation of and facilitating that and then we got other national events i was able
03:23:45.900to go to as well so you know it moved from four days a year living the life i meant to live
03:23:52.540to live it you know eight days a year i could live that life and then every step in my life
03:23:58.620i've tried to get closer and closer to where living surrounded by my afa family with this
03:24:06.220being our day-to-day is closer and closer to being my reality and sigurheim is kind of the
03:24:12.780the big step in that and i'm looking forward to all the the grand afa imperium absolutely
03:24:22.540But just the day-to-day spending my life with my folk, having my family intertwined with their families, and having that day-to-day interaction with people that I care about, I'm very, very much looking forward to that.
03:24:41.960That day cannot come soon enough for me.
03:24:45.420And so I'm doing everything in my power to try to make that happen as quick as I can.