Asatru Folk Assembly - 7⧸5⧸23 Victory Never Sleeps, Episode 52 - Alexander Rud Mills

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00:03:00.000 Hello, and welcome back to another exciting edition of Victory Never Sleeps.

00:03:19.100 Tonight, we are continuing our series on the heroes of Alcitru.

00:03:25.340 And for the first time, we have folk builder Allie Clausen joining us. 1.00

00:03:30.000 um top of the show stuff we're getting close to sigger bloat at siggerheim we would love to see 1.00

00:03:39.620 you guys there anyone listening to this show um or if you know folks that should be there let them 1.00

00:03:45.620 know if you are a member awesome contact your folk builder they can tell you everything you

00:03:50.360 need to know if you are not a member you should fix that but also contact your local folk builder

00:03:56.400 and they can get you vouched for and taken care of we'd love to see you guys there it's going to

00:04:00.720 be an awesome event um i am pretty excited looking forward to it and that's the 22nd

00:04:08.000 of this month in jackson county tennessee um as my wife reminds us over there in the chat

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00:05:14.720 your uh your question gets to the front of the line um as always we'll answer all questions that

00:05:21.520 come to us as long as we've got them. Also, just so you guys know, for planning purposes,

00:05:32.120 next month in August, we are having Freyfaxi at Baldershof. That's the national event for

00:05:41.920 the Baldershof district. It is going to be a great time at an amazing hof with amazing people.

00:05:52.240 that is particularly hard to read that nick just put up there so perhaps he could

00:05:57.760 i don't know um i'm even trying to read it and i find it a little bit difficult myself think it

00:06:02.480 says august 18th through the 20th again if you can make it that's in murdoch minnesota

00:06:10.560 if you're a member talk to your local folk builders they can get you the information you

00:06:14.480 need to know if you're not a member you should fix it but you should also talk to your local

00:06:19.040 folk builder and they can get you squared away if you want to attend uh also in august and i hope

00:06:26.640 nick's got a flyer for this there's an event going on in texas that builder justin day is hosting

00:06:34.560 that he's pretty excited about i know some folks some other folk builders are helping him

00:06:38.720 get that uh all set up so waiting on nick but if he's got a graphic on that hopefully

00:06:44.880 that's cool. If not, jday at runestone.org is for the host of that, and he can get you guys

00:06:53.760 more information. Without further ado, I'm going to turn it over to Allie, and she's going to tell

00:07:02.200 us about Alexander Rudd Mills. But first, and I always try to do this when we've got a first-time

00:07:08.860 guest on the program. Allie, can you tell folks a little bit about yourself and what you do

00:07:14.860 for the Ausatru Folk Assembly? And could you also tell people how you came home to Ausatru

00:07:21.240 and the Ausatru Folk Assembly? Okay. So I'm Allie. I'm a stay-at-home mom. I'm an apprentice

00:07:28.140 folk builder for Baldersoft District. For Baldersoft, I help run our welcome wagon. So

00:07:33.920 if you join Baldersoft District, you'll get a booklet that I will send you with all sorts

00:07:39.260 of goodies and info about the Hoff and the people there. In addition to that, I run the

00:07:46.320 Sister Sunday Chats every Sunday at 10 a.m. Central and the book study which we're running

00:07:52.620 or a book club, sorry, that we're running just about every other Sunday at 4 p.m. Central.

00:07:57.200 Right now, we're reading the Mortgarth Air and working our way through some of the Arthurian

00:08:01.160 legends. In addition to that, I help put together the Rhinestone newsletters that you'll see

00:08:08.000 every month and uh a whole bunch of other stuff as needed um so i found the austral folk assembly

00:08:17.200 in 2016 right after i married cody and i tried so hard to get him to join so so hard but it was just

00:08:24.000 uh he had jobs with government clearances and he was worried about all sorts of you know the

00:08:28.160 misinformation that's out there and uh then you guys started doing this broadcast and that's what

00:08:34.880 ultimately got him on board with joining i guess um you and swan sitting here for hours is better

00:08:41.440 than a wife nagging so i think it's really cool to be the the last uh first guest on on the first

00:08:49.040 year um because it's just such a full circle moment for us that this is what brought us home

00:08:53.680 and now i'm i'm on here so this is really cool for me um i've been at least some flavor of pagan

00:09:00.000 my whole life whether i knew what that meant or not um my dad took me to a uh pagan pride

00:09:06.720 druid festival when i was about nine and as soon as i realized that that was something i can do

00:09:11.840 it just it sparked it everything fell into place then and cody introduced me to the term

00:09:16.880 asatru and that finally is what felt right and it really made sense for me

00:09:21.760 well that's great and i'm i it's one of many success stories that i think we have through

00:09:29.880 this program which is which is awesome um i'm so very thankful that people appreciate this program

00:09:36.220 and we've got such a such an active fan base and that it sounds like it's brought a lot of people

00:09:42.460 home and i think that's really cool um you do tons of stuff some of you guys may recognize

00:09:48.720 ally from the chat because she is consistently over there in the chat window uh contributing

00:09:55.120 to the program and asking meaningful questions um she's one of the ones towards the end of the show 0.51

00:10:02.560 that i can always count on populating a bunch of the questions and keeping spawn going for an extra

00:10:08.080 hour so i try to stump you guys i really do i think i've got it a couple times

00:10:12.720 well no that's great and i'm glad to have you and you and cody on board and um i'm not sure

00:10:23.600 whether you mentioned it or not but you guys are in nebraska yes sir for anybody interested

00:10:30.000 out there anybody might find themselves in the nebraska area this is your local folk builder

00:10:34.400 um can you tell folks about alexander rudd mills assuming that they've never heard anything about

00:10:44.800 him before okay so i kind of want to break up the alexander rudd mills stuff into biography of the

00:10:50.900 man and then a little bit about the church that he ran okay so alexander rudd mills was born july

00:10:56.440 15 1885 in fourth tasmania which is an island off the coast of australia um as a young man he moved

00:11:03.100 to melbourne victoria um to go to law school um and that was sometime around 1910 ish the dates

00:11:12.160 vary a little bit depending on the source but regardless he studied law in melbourne he graduated

00:11:16.960 in 1916 he passed the bar in 1917 and became a barrister he was um fairly successful in that

00:11:25.040 business um having spent uh years teaching law as well during his uh his later years at school

00:11:33.760 um he was rejected by the military at the outbreak of world war one for medical reasons and that kind

00:11:39.360 of spurred him to do more public service through his his law practice um you know anything really

00:11:45.200 that he could do to replace that that military service um in 1930 he was put forward by the

00:11:52.000 national party he did not win that nomination he did not win any political seats then so in 1931

00:11:58.480 he kind of went into a self-imposed exile and decided to travel the world um he traveled to

00:12:03.680 south africa which he did not enjoy he traveled to the ussr where he he was already against communism

00:12:12.000 and that's where he became an anti-communist um he said that you know russia will cure any

00:12:18.000 communist if you put him to work there um during his travels he also went to germany where he

00:12:23.200 claims that he met adolf hitler there's not a whole lot of uh proof for that story but it did

00:12:27.680 get him in trouble with the australian government later um and during his time in the uk that's

00:12:32.720 where he met a lot of the men that would form the early parts of the odinic right and a lot of his

00:12:38.320 contacts that would become important to just uh disseminating his uh books later on in 1934 he

00:12:44.880 returned back to australia um and that's when he founded the first anglican church of odin

00:12:50.960 which was heavily based on the church of england the actual anglican church um

00:12:59.200 and in 1935 he founded the british australian racial body which was his political movement

00:13:04.160 that did not take off um he was arrested may 7th 1942 and held without trial for

00:13:14.240 many months he wasn't released until december of 1942 because they felt like his travels through

00:13:20.000 germany and his um brave reviews of his time there in addition to his germanic paganism

00:13:28.560 was a threat to the australian sovereignty and to the australian war effort so he was held

00:13:34.320 without trial without charges and um he alleges some horrific abuses by the government at that time

00:13:43.440 And after his release in 1944, he was officially charged with retroactively.

00:13:51.680 They said he was arrested for providing legal service to political dissidents.

00:13:56.300 In other words, he had friends.

00:13:58.460 He was married in 1962 to Evelyn Price, who he had known through all of this since he had returned from his travels in Europe.

00:14:06.660 He was 65. She was 62. She was a school teacher.

00:14:10.560 They, of course, had no children due to their advanced ages, and he passed on April 8th,

00:14:16.880 1964, and he was given an odinic rite at his funeral service, despite being buried in the

00:14:23.840 Church of England section, where he was buried next to his wife.

00:14:29.920 Now, a little bit about the first Anglican Church of Odin was inspired by Meister von

00:14:34.220 List and a lot of his writings.

00:14:36.660 They believed in a very different form of the religion than we would recognize today with Odin as the chief deity and the other gods as a almost like a saint-like figure where you could pray to them and then they could take concerns to Odin as opposed to being gods in their own right.

00:14:56.860 He believed that Christianity was foreign to the British people, which he believed that the

00:15:01.500 British people were any people that we would recognize as our folk living within the bounds

00:15:06.620 of the British Empire. That was his chief concern was bringing those people to Odinism. 0.98

00:15:14.060 He believed in Odin as a Skyfather deity and mainly sought to remove Judaic influence from

00:15:20.540 the church of england um and his services his hymns he had full proper services this wasn't

00:15:27.740 some backyard stand around the fire reenacting stuff um it was based heavily in the church of

00:15:33.740 england and i think that really paved the way for modern aussitory being based in today as opposed

00:15:39.180 to a thousand years ago all right fantastic um

00:15:51.500 yeah no i appreciate that and i appreciate the the you threw in there about

00:15:56.860 his experience of the world as a young man and his travels because i think that

00:16:01.020 was very formative in i don't know the influence that he had later on um

00:16:12.860 so let me see what we've got for questions we're still

00:16:16.140 using kind of an improvised question method here. So let me see what we've got. First one I've got

00:16:26.220 is from Brandy. Hail all, looking beautiful. What made you want to become, or hail Allie,

00:16:33.260 I'm sorry. I misread that. I didn't see a little dot. My eyes are getting old. Yes, Allie, looking

00:16:39.220 beautiful. What made you want to become a folk builder? And how did you get so awesome?

00:16:43.840 well thank you brandy um i'll start with the end there i became so awesome because i've got a great

00:16:49.880 mentor in brandy and uh my folk building mentor uh ashley mcstocker they're both fantastic um

00:16:56.900 but i wanted to become a folk builder because i just saw that gap in nebraska we wanted to do

00:17:01.360 things we didn't want to have to drive 300 miles to balder's hop we didn't have to want to have to

00:17:05.540 drive you know to either coast to go do more things so you know if you want something done do

00:17:12.300 but that's really the best way.

00:17:15.460 I just wanted to help other people

00:17:17.940 be able to have an experience in Ausatru

00:17:20.800 and to give myself an experience in Ausatru.

00:17:26.420 All right, our next question from Kevin.

00:17:32.940 Matt, have you heard of the Old Norse fighting technique,

00:17:36.240 Glima, which stands for glimpse or flash

00:17:39.960 because it was a fast paced use of throws, blows,

00:17:43.080 kicks, chokes, locks, pain techniques, and weapons.

00:17:47.460 I have.

00:17:52.040 To my understanding, it's pretty obscure

00:17:55.260 and figuring out and finding folks that are expert in that

00:18:01.220 is hard to come by.

00:18:02.500 But yes, I absolutely have heard of that

00:18:04.820 and seeing various videos of people doing some of the techniques.

00:18:13.280 Our next question comes from Witten Daniel Young.

00:18:17.520 I'll tell you, Gophie, what was the motivation behind having Mr. Mills as the hero of Thorshoff?

00:18:24.400 So some of you guys may not be aware.

00:18:26.480 each of our Hoffs is not only dedicated to one of our gods, but they have kind of a patron hero

00:18:33.620 that we set up an altar for there as well. And we'll continue doing that with each of our Hoffs

00:18:39.300 that we get, you know, assuming that we have recognized heroes to put there. And then if not,

00:18:45.480 we'll put them there once we get them. So one of the things, it was really important for me

00:18:59.860 early on as Ausheri Gauthier to recognize Alexander Rudd Mills with his own day of

00:19:06.500 remembrance as a hero of our faith. He is one of those kind of initial pioneers of modern Alcitru

00:19:20.100 that started from zero to something. And, you know, I've always said the biggest distance to

00:19:28.680 overcomes the distance from, you know, the couch to the front door is overcoming nothing and doing

00:19:37.160 something. And everybody waits for that first person to take that first step forward so they

00:19:43.880 can follow behind them or so they can benefit from what those people build. But it's lonely

00:19:49.480 as a pioneer to start something brand new and try to build something where there's not anything.

00:19:56.820 and he's part of that you know small handful of people that did that the other thing that

00:20:03.360 really spoke to me is he didn't go through a pretend viking phase

00:20:10.860 um his rebirth vows are true the way that he did it the way that he founded it in

00:20:19.680 in australia didn't have a period of viking larp to it at all it wasn't confined to some ancient

00:20:28.880 time in the past it was from day one from its conception a modern faith based on modern

00:20:36.600 practices by modern people when you see pictures of him doing things you know he's wearing a suit

00:20:43.960 he's dressed like an upstanding gentleman of his day and that was very appealing to me and i think

00:20:52.360 that's something interesting to harken back to i think a lot of people now think perhaps that's a

00:20:59.240 you know a very recent development in alsa true and it's not it's something that he was doing

00:21:05.000 in the 30s and the 40s and i have i've always been inspired by that anybody that

00:21:11.640 Reed's a lot of his works will recognize, you know, the big differences between how he sees

00:21:19.780 our faith and how we see our faith. But I don't think enough people realize that it's part of a

00:21:25.940 transition and part of a process. He was one of those first generation of people trying to bridge

00:21:32.880 the theological gap between the Christianity that was very prevalent in our folk at the time and for

00:21:40.560 centuries and getting back to our native faith and no it wasn't perfect but it was a really

00:21:50.840 special start there was a lot of great things there and uh a lot of i don't know it set a lot

00:21:59.260 of foundation that i think is is really special and so much of his work was about that breaking

00:22:06.540 away from a christian mindset into embracing the the faith of our ancestors

00:22:14.620 my daughter wants to apparently show you her purple headphones and she's excited about that

00:22:20.220 um but yeah that's why uh thorshoff was thorshoff was the first hoff under um

00:22:29.660 under my administration so it was very important that i wanted him to be honored there because

00:22:36.300 i've i have a personal admiration for him and i felt like that was a good statement to make with

00:22:43.500 the first half done under my watch was to honor him in that way and that was at a time where we

00:22:49.900 were just um just adding modern modern heroes to our days of remembrance before that all of

00:22:58.380 our our heroes that we were remembering were almost all of them were taken from

00:23:03.740 conversion era sagas of of norway from the hymn skringla and they were combined to a very uh

00:23:15.420 early period in time we did have uh radbod from earlier and uh armenius from earlier

00:23:23.660 but all of our heroes were very ancient at that point and i wanted to acknowledge

00:23:27.180 our modern house to true heroes for what they did to build the faith that we all we all get

00:23:34.860 to celebrate and enjoy the day so that was really important to me um our next question we have

00:23:45.340 uh this one's for you ally how many books did he write all right so i've got i'm gonna have

00:23:53.100 to refer to my notes here as tasman fourth in 1933 he wrote and fears will be in the way which is

00:23:59.500 um a political book as alexander red mills publishing under his own name um he published

00:24:09.260 five books um hail odin in 1934 the first guide book to the anglican body in 1936

00:24:17.820 ritual book of the moots of the anglican body in 1937 the odinist religion on uh overcoming judeo

00:24:24.700 christianity in 1939 and the call of our ancient nordic religion reflections on the theological

00:24:31.340 content of the sagas in 1957 which seems to be his most well-known book and in 1947 he wrote

00:24:38.220 under the pen name justinian law for the ordinary man which was a book um of legal advice for people

00:24:45.500 that might find themselves in situations such as he had been where he was persecuted for his beliefs

00:24:56.460 all right um next question from cody uh ali what virtue do you think that alexander red mills

00:25:06.780 most embodied and what lessons can we learn from his story i would have to say fidelity

00:25:13.820 um as the virtue i would think uh most describes alexander redmills um in that he was

00:25:20.140 imprisoned by his own countrymen without trial without charge without

00:25:25.020 any knowledge of when he might be freed and yet he didn't turn his back it would have been very

00:25:32.680 easy for him to agree that you know the church of the crown the church of england was just fine

00:25:38.620 and dandy and he was going to believe in that now and he was going to believe in you know the party

00:25:42.680 line of whatever political party would have got him freed but he didn't he stood proud in his

00:25:48.840 convictions and he stayed strong in his belief in the gods and he just you know took that turned

00:25:57.000 that into strength and did great works and right action after he got out all right

00:26:06.520 All right. Your next question from Sarah. What was the name of the book that Alexander

00:26:16.920 Rudd Mills almost completed before his death? Allie?

00:26:20.360 You know, I do not have that in my notes. I'm not quite sure about that one.

00:26:27.800 Uh-oh. I apologize for that, Sarah.

00:26:29.880 So, I don't know if that was a gotcha or an actual question, but I would be really

00:26:36.360 curious to know the answer to that, if anyone out there does know.

00:26:40.260 I know that at one point, Stoba had several unfinished manuscripts of Red Mills, but those

00:26:46.480 were lost in the mishandling of the state. So, there is apparently a ton of stuff that

00:26:52.740 is lost to history, and some of it is lost on me. I must have missed something.

00:26:56.940 so that is another reason that it is very very important to me to preserve our history

00:27:07.180 to acknowledge and celebrate these heroes of earlier times and also true and do what we can

00:27:15.500 to preserve what we still do have because the problems we face now trying to find this information

00:27:22.060 is you know those problems will be much greater in the future unless we take steps now to preserve

00:27:30.380 those things one of the things that's very hard for people to realize and i've encountered this

00:27:37.100 with the mcnallans it's most often we don't realize that we're living history as it happens

00:27:46.780 we only see something as historically important when viewed decades into the future and when

00:27:53.660 that's the case we lose a lot of things people who were there aren't with us for a variety of

00:28:00.860 reasons if we wait long enough a lot of those people have passed due to old age but sometimes

00:28:06.540 they pass due to other reasons you know you lose you lose information you lose dates and names and

00:28:12.540 places and the more we can stop that and record things the easier time it's going to be for people

00:28:22.380 you know 60 70 80 years from now to look back and and see the things that we were doing and

00:28:28.780 learn from you know learn from the lives that we're living now

00:28:31.900 so on their next question which of his books would be a good first read what do you suggest

00:28:44.700 ally um now i've only read through call of our ancient nordic religion but i would highly

00:28:51.100 recommend that it's got a lot of really good information a lot of good thinking points about

00:28:56.220 the various sagas which i mean some of them are quite a slog to get through by themselves so if

00:29:00.620 you've got some some points of reference that you know hey this is really good here keep an eye on

00:29:06.300 this section that would be something that i would recommend the other stuff it's mainly focused on

00:29:13.340 a defunct religious body that's so different from ours that it's it's not a waste of time but it's

00:29:20.060 not the best use of time um yeah you know i think that that's the starter book that most people have

00:29:29.420 read by him so that's what i would recommend um i i certainly haven't read all of his works but

00:29:41.820 of the ones that i have i think that's the most accessible um i also think

00:29:50.940 so we have and it's very special at thorshoff at the alexander red mills shrine we have a copy of

00:29:59.420 hail odin an original copy that he sent as a gift to a friend of his in england and it has

00:30:07.620 a letter that he typed or yeah that he typed up on his typewriter from his barrister's office

00:30:13.080 and signed that he sent to his friend there along with the book and it's

00:30:18.120 it's special to have a piece of history a piece that uh that he actually touched that he personally

00:30:26.940 sent as a gift along with a letter that he was personally signed and was responsible for

00:30:32.040 but reading through that it's different because it's not a

00:30:38.200 now i'm trying to think of what the word i want to use for the distinction is

00:30:45.920 as a book it is a book of his poems as opposed to a you know an instructional book about or

00:30:52.600 about Ausatru. It's his poems that are inspired by our faith and inspired by the All-Father.

00:31:00.200 And the poems are really kind of cool, and it's neat to read through those.

00:31:06.740 But yeah, I think either of those works pretty good as an introductory thing to get you

00:31:11.980 kind of familiar with where he was coming from and his mindset at the time.

00:31:15.640 next question uh ali tell us why you like folk building and the extra groups that you are a part

00:31:29.400 of on the side so the um we have a kindred here in nebraska the prairie fire kindred they call me

00:31:39.620 their den mother so um that's one of my major groups on the side um the sister sunday chat

00:31:46.040 which i thought was really important um to take over from witten callahan that used to be coffee

00:31:52.440 and crochet and unfortunately she's such a busy woman it couldn't be as often as some of us wanted

00:31:57.260 it to be so we made it that often um i do a book club um which is meeting now just about every other

00:32:04.640 week we're gonna be three weeks into it um coming up and uh there's a couple other things uh the

00:32:13.520 baldershop rune study which will be starting back up very soon um and working on the runestone is my

00:32:21.580 other real big project on the side and that's all of that was so important to me and becoming a

00:32:26.740 folk builder was so important to me because i wanted to help bring people together i wanted

00:32:31.580 to build a community and friendships um with people that were thinking the same same things

00:32:38.140 that i was in a world that's a little bit insane at times um you know it's hard to find people so

00:32:45.420 it makes it a little bit easier if you can bring them together

00:32:51.180 that's something that's something that's been really nice to see and it's developed very 1.00

00:32:57.740 organically is a lot of the groups that our ladies have to build friendships and relationships within

00:33:05.340 the astro folk assembly it's been a really nice thing to see the last couple of years and i

00:33:09.900 appreciate all of you that are taking the lead in weaving that frith in that way

00:33:16.620 it's it's invaluable and i think it'll be that way for generations

00:33:23.260 so our next okay

00:33:27.740 Last week, there was a question about trans people being accepted in Ossetru.

00:33:33.440 Wasn't that tried with Loki and it helped bring about the end of the world? 0.99

00:33:37.520 So to clarify, the position of the Ask True Folk Assembly is that the transgender phenomenon is absolutely a devastating and tragic mental illness 0.86

00:34:00.340 that is unfortunately being used and propagated for political messaging by people with very 0.57

00:34:12.340 deviant agendas. And there was a difference last week. And so we do not recognize or allow people

00:34:22.660 who are currently engaged in that mental illness into the Austro Folk Assembly because it is very 1.00

00:34:28.520 destructive and dangerous for our children and for our group as a whole we hope those

00:34:33.800 people get the the help that they so desperately need um the issue last week that was getting

00:34:41.240 talked about was a difference between that and actual biological um hermaphrodite ism

00:34:52.360 if that's even a word but folks that genuinely have that genetic mutation to where

00:34:58.520 they have that confusion of parts. And that was a complex discussion. The thing with

00:35:04.200 our lore and discussions on Loki about this that you rightly pick up on,

00:35:11.600 yes, he was the example of what not to do, of the dangers of having chaotic deviant elements

00:35:20.320 in your kin fence and in your circle and the damage that causes. And an example of things

00:35:27.720 we want to align ourselves in opposition to um it wasn't just the issue of his gender fluidity 0.89

00:35:37.080 that's that's in the lore stories but that's that was an extension of his overall malignancy and 0.76

00:35:45.160 chaotic nature and his destructive and deviant tendencies that stood in the face of order

00:35:52.520 and that was a big part of that so yeah you you pick up on our lore is not favorable of that

00:35:58.280 because of Loki um next question do you know where Mills's final resting place is

00:36:12.040 Allie do you know where that's located yes it is in Victoria Australia he is buried next to his

00:36:20.500 wife and if i could read my handwriting i would tell you exactly where that was

00:36:26.820 i apologize i cannot read my handwriting

00:36:30.740 all right um and some of you guys may see me fiddling with my phone it's because i was trying

00:36:37.460 to get an exact location for that and what cemetery that's in because we do and we've

00:36:44.340 actually had australian members that have gone and done rituals at his uh at his grave site

00:36:53.620 but search for that continues um our next question

00:37:02.100 the mishandling of an estate and the loss of materials that ali mentioned is also a good

00:37:07.940 reminder to make sure our wills are done and properly recorded wouldn't you say i would say

00:37:13.780 that and i would um this is as good a time as any to mention doyourownwill.com and however you do

00:37:25.460 your will we want you to send an original signed copy you can have several of those to our law

00:37:32.260 speaker alan turnage producer nick is putting that up on the screen so that in the event of your

00:37:40.020 of your death we are able to advocate for you to make sure your wishes are

00:37:48.900 are followed in terms of your estate in terms of the handling of your remains of any funerary 1.00

00:37:54.900 rights that you'd like we have seen far too many people in the astro folk assembly pass

00:38:02.020 without having a will in place and because things default to next of kin a lot of us have christian

00:38:11.060 family members or family members that may not take what we do very seriously this has resulted

00:38:17.940 in a lot of really unfortunate circumstances when it comes to what's happened as far as people's

00:38:23.380 funerary rights as far as where their body has been interred or handled a lot of those things

00:38:32.580 have been directly contrary to people's wishes because they didn't have anything in writing

00:38:39.700 we found a way for you to do that i'm trying to get as many people as i can to do that it's not

00:38:47.300 you know it sounds odd like i'm trying to sell you something i'm not i found a free place to

00:38:52.260 do it online so that cost isn't an issue anyone in the united states certainly can do this but

00:38:59.780 also places in canada it's um do your own will.com again producer nick has that up on the screen

00:39:09.460 it's really easy i did it takes about 10 minutes but it's very very important and not just for

00:39:17.140 elderly people or people who are ill but you know life happens and unforeseen circumstances happen

00:39:24.660 to people at all all ages i've seen so many people in the astro folk assembly over the years

00:39:33.940 not have that in place when it was needed and i can't stress this strongly enough and i appreciate

00:39:38.900 your reminder nick i hope people listen and take you up on that i did just double check um

00:39:46.100 alexander redmills is buried in fern creek gully cemetery in melbourne there you go

00:39:56.740 our next question do you okay do you think ragnarok has already happened or will it happen

00:40:04.820 or will it happen at all or could be a metaphor for something that could happen in the real world

00:40:10.020 so this gets discussed semi-frequently i'd say and it's an important it's an important point

00:40:22.420 within the astro folk assembly that we believe our lore takes place in mythic time which means

00:40:30.020 to your question Ragnarok will happen is happening and has happened and I understand that's an odd

00:40:40.540 thing to wrap your head around but our lore takes place in mythic space and mythic time and that

00:40:50.600 doesn't conform to the same rules that linear time does in Midgard in our human existence

00:40:57.520 And it teaches us a lot of lessons, and it teaches that in terms of cycles.

00:41:04.840 So I don't think that it's got, you know, a fixed date on that.

00:41:09.260 I don't think that's the point.

00:41:10.940 I think the point is the idea of being ever vigilant and prepared for an impending conflict,

00:41:17.920 for an impending doom, but also having hope and knowledge that things can pass beyond

00:41:25.980 that and come back to fruition we see that with balder's return we see that with uh

00:41:34.220 with uh lif and lifthress here we see that with the survivors of ragnarok

00:41:40.460 and the sons of the gods coming back and and resetting things right um

00:41:48.460 but again i think that's a cyclical lesson that's taught in mythic time and doesn't have a linear

00:41:55.820 location that we can you know look to it as aha this is this is occurring i think we see that

00:42:02.140 cycle again and again and we can we can recognize that or see metaphorical truths in that every time

00:42:12.780 we face a calamity or a cataclysm aha this must be the ragnarok that the the lore talks about

00:42:22.140 and i think we pick up truths in that but i don't think that's true in the in the literal sense

00:42:29.180 so i hope that sheds a little bit of light on your question

00:42:33.660 but again i think that takes place outside of of our conception of time

00:42:40.380 um ali which is your favorite futhark uh the elder the younger the younger the anglo or the

00:42:51.420 armanin um i would have to say the elder futhark because that is just the one i'm most comfortable

00:42:57.820 with i've only recently learned a little bit about the armanin and i don't really know anything about

00:43:02.540 the younger or anglo-saxon futharks all right um matt as someone who practices jujitsu what are

00:43:15.980 your thoughts on hema or western martial arts in general would you ever consider trying it so

00:43:29.340 first it it depends on what that is or what that looks like um

00:43:35.020 um I think that a lot of us when we start out we wish there was a European martial art that was

00:43:47.620 as good or has some kind of equivalency to Asian martial arts and that doesn't exist we try to

00:43:57.880 retcon ones like glema or like uh pancreation or things that way but realistically as a modern

00:44:07.760 system of hand-to-hand fighting the asians have that figured out better than we figured that out

00:44:15.380 if you want something complete completely western i mean you can learn boxing which is very valuable

00:44:21.400 There's there's things that are very valuable. But as far as a what people are looking for in a martial art, I think you're going to get that through the Asian systems much better than you're going to get that through HEMA or other European attempts at it.

00:44:41.200 the thing that is fun about mehema that i'm aware of is you get to figure out through use

00:44:58.720 archaic weapons and how to use them and it's cool like i think it would be fun to do and

00:45:04.480 as a as a fun exercise or as you know something to do to gain a better historical understanding

00:45:13.200 of how to use medieval swords i think that's a cool thing to do it's absolutely something that

00:45:20.240 i i'd love to do for fun or for you know competition with my friends or with others

00:45:26.480 i think that's a good thing as far as it being useful in a confrontation

00:45:31.120 just on a practical sense, it is dependent upon archaic weapons that you don't find yourself

00:45:40.920 having when you need it. One of the benefits of most of the Japanese and Chinese and Korean 1.00

00:45:49.680 martial arts is that most of them are mainly focused on hand-to-hand. There's obviously 0.60

00:45:57.080 schools that teach you know there's there's um various sword schools and uh all kind of different

00:46:05.880 weapons that get trained in martial arts but it's got a really solid foundation of

00:46:12.200 hand-to-hand things and you always have your hands and your feet with you

00:46:16.040 i think that teaches you something that's a lot more practical i think if people are put off by

00:46:23.720 the asianness of some of these things obviously mixed martial arts training incorporates you know

00:46:31.000 the most effective martial arts training that we know around the world and puts it all in one

00:46:39.320 one package and i think that's a really solid thing to do if you if you're put off by the 0.65

00:46:44.840 asianness of a lot of martial arts but i don't really see him as being a particularly effective

00:46:52.200 of fighting technique tool. But I do think it looks like a lot of fun. And if I had people,

00:46:58.100 if I had friends that were doing it, I would love to do it. I think it's fun. I think it would be

00:47:01.700 great athleticism and something cool to do with your friends to get a workout in and to

00:47:07.420 do something that's very, very interesting.

00:47:09.940 thing. The next question is for both of us. What would you say, and I'll let you go first

00:47:22.540 on this, Allie, what would you say is Alexander's biggest contribution to modern Ausitruth?

00:47:30.060 I think I touched on it a little bit before. I think it's just taking it out of the Viking

00:47:34.940 age and putting it into something that we can understand and we can respect and move forward

00:47:41.180 with um without having to wear bear pelts and you know eat mutton likes over the fire um we can

00:47:49.500 bring this into the real world we can you know do what we need to do to move forward

00:47:54.460 teach our children and also fit into american society day to day

00:47:58.540 you know i you stole my answer realistically i think that's absolutely the case the

00:48:09.100 the biggest contribution is from day one he conceived also true through the eyes of a modern

00:48:17.980 you know a modern englishman who was you know english transplant that found himself in australia

00:48:24.060 um but he found it completely relevant and useful for his life in you know the 20th century and

00:48:37.980 that's that's really kind of a thing all the are kind of an amazing thing all of the other modern

00:48:43.740 modern uh pioneers of alsa true in some way or another

00:48:52.620 have had to go through a viking reenactment phase either physically or intellectually

00:49:01.020 in how they conceived of our faith it was really special that he had the the wisdom and the insight

00:49:08.780 not to have to do that and to realize that this is a real viable religion and our gods are just

00:49:15.260 as relevant for us as modern people as they were for people in the viking age or you know times

00:49:21.660 gone by i think that is the biggest contribution um somebody over this over in the side mentioned

00:49:28.460 that you know wasn't he quite monotheistic in his understanding yes absolutely he was

00:49:33.900 because again it was a trend it was a transition he was in a time in society where people were

00:49:39.420 first very very religious much so more so than today um today in europe

00:49:48.060 religion as a whole has decreased to a shocking level um and it took a few more generations in

00:49:55.340 the united states but you know like in my grandparents day everyone in the united states

00:50:01.580 was religious not saying everyone obviously not but the vast vast majority church was part of their

00:50:08.860 life um in my parents day depending on what part of the country you're in still a majority of people

00:50:16.220 you know in my day less in people a generation younger than these days even less still

00:50:21.740 but in his time everybody was religious to one degree or another the society was entirely

00:50:28.380 made up of christianity and his steps to breaking away from that he avoided

00:50:35.060 the whole throwing out the baby with the bath water thing to where anything religious anything

00:50:41.800 christianity does we have to completely throw it out and start fresh with caveman stuff and

00:50:48.080 shoulder pelts he didn't do that he decided to okay well this is religion this is what western

00:50:55.900 people practices religion what would it look like if it was also true what would it look like if it

00:51:01.980 was our gods and that's the direction he came from and his understanding philosophically yeah he

00:51:08.860 couldn't at that point he couldn't open his mind to true polytheism in the way that we understand

00:51:17.740 today. But the steps that he made were first steps on a longer road. And, you know, he never

00:51:27.000 made it to the end of that road. But the fact that he made those steps is extremely significant

00:51:32.760 and extremely important. And the fact that when he saw the God of his universe for the first time

00:51:41.400 in a very, very long time, it wasn't a Jewish God. It was one of our gods. It was Odin.

00:51:47.740 and from there he built his faith around that um and it was such an important first step that i

00:51:53.340 think we all take for granted but it contributed hugely to us being here and having this conversation

00:52:00.620 today well and if i can step in there for a second i think it also helped um that he knew

00:52:06.220 his audience he knew the people that he was talking to the the working class white british

00:52:11.100 man wasn't ready to completely shed the 500 years of church of england um you know they had so much

00:52:18.780 pride in their heritage and their roots that it would have been just a bridge too far he would

00:52:22.460 have been absolutely crazy to do that right away i think that's an important point too

00:52:31.260 it he didn't feel the need to have the shock value i think a lot of people

00:52:40.220 in other instances we still see today in the pursuit of alsatru people when they come home

00:52:45.740 to alsatru feel this need often to go through this rebellious phase where they you know

00:52:53.180 throw out anything that is normal respectable social behavior in order to show how pagan they

00:53:03.660 are and it takes time and maturity for them come coming back to integrating what it means to be a 0.88

00:53:13.100 noble person in our day and age and practice also true it's amazing to me that he he bypassed that

00:53:20.220 all together and that was another really really special thing about him as a visionary

00:53:30.940 matt could you see bloat being done for our heroes is that a common practice if not why isn't it um

00:53:42.620 i think that's a question of semantics more than anything else

00:53:47.980 um offerings are made to our heroes quite often bloat is done to our ancestors in like when we

00:53:59.500 blow to the alfar when we blow to the dsir you could do a bloat to a hero absolutely i don't

00:54:06.780 think it's typically done because we usually use that type of worship for gods and not for people

00:54:17.100 But I think some of it's semantics and customs. I think a great many people honor and worship the heroes on their days of remembrance or at different times in their homes. I would like to see that practice done at Hoffs more often. I think that it's

00:54:38.100 it's something that hadn't been emphasized in Ausatru for a really long time. So I think it's

00:54:46.720 something that's taken us a little bit of time to reintegrate. I absolutely think that religious 1.00

00:54:53.380 rites should be performed for our ancestors and for our heroes. But in terms of bloat the same

00:55:01.320 way we bloat to the gods. Again, I don't think it's bad. I just think it's different. And I

00:55:11.460 think that delineation is kind of important. It's always really, this is something in modern

00:55:17.740 Alistair that I think we need to focus more on and refine our thoughts on. There was a current

00:55:26.920 of thought for a long time by, I don't know, almost an atheist element in Ausatru, that our

00:55:35.520 gods are some kind of deified heroes and that they're people that attained godhood. And that's

00:55:42.120 not the case. I don't know where that came from. I'm not sure if that's from the uhemorized

00:55:48.600 accounts that Snorri makes or just what. But it's really important that we acknowledge and

00:55:58.420 recognize that our gods are gods with a big G. They're a completely separate, elevated, a separate,

00:56:07.680 they're not, this is one of those things that we lack the words that we need for the clarity that

00:56:14.240 want to express they are a completely different order of being than humans are certainly you can

00:56:23.760 ascend to something better and we believe that our heroes have ascended to something better

00:56:28.880 something closer to the gods than we are currently to be able to go to the halls of the gods and

00:56:36.160 feast with our gods and share with them in a closer relationship and a close closer status

00:56:42.400 than we have but the idea that our heroes somehow become gods in the same sense isn't the case

00:56:50.320 there's a big difference between the celebrated hero that ascends and can commune with the gods

00:56:56.480 in a in a closer way than we can and you know the storm god of our folk since the dawn of time

00:57:04.480 Or, you know, Odin who crafted humanity or who crafted Aryan humanity.

00:57:13.800 Recognizing the difference in order between human and God is very essential for us to be pious and religious people and not see the gods as our big homies in the sky. 0.56

00:57:28.120 That's not. It sounds silly. And yeah, when I said it, I made it a little bit silly, but that's because the idea itself is silly and absurd. 0.74

00:57:38.160 But it's one of those things that when we went through the Ossetru rugged individualist, you know, I don't kneel before my gods phase, we had that bit of heresy built into our mind at some point.

00:57:59.620 We need to make really sure that we shed that and that we acknowledge our gods for gods.

00:58:05.660 It's one of the things with the word worship. I know worship makes some people uncomfortable because of how they've seen it practiced in different faiths at different times, but the word itself is our word, and it means worth-ship, to recognize worth, to assign worth to something, and to acknowledge the worth of something.

00:58:28.880 we need to acknowledge the worth of our gods and their value and the different order of magnitude

00:58:37.620 that value is compared to our heroes or our ancestors who've ascended.

00:58:46.160 Recognizing accurately the worth of individuals that we are honoring

00:58:50.500 is fundamental to that concept of worship, and it's really important that we do that.

00:58:58.880 All right. Next question. Will the AFA store be back up? Yes. Or when will it be back up?

00:59:08.140 Yes, absolutely. It will be back up. We are figuring that out behind the scenes.

00:59:16.760 We are currently trying to get a hold of the remaining stock of our merchandise that the

00:59:25.320 previous store owner still has in their possession. Once we have that, we'll be able to put it back

00:59:30.040 on the store again. Or if we have to start fresh and restock, we'll know to do that. I want that

00:59:36.040 process finished and ready by the end of this month. I would love it to be ready quicker than

00:59:42.380 that, but something will be done and mentioned by the end of this month because we do need to

00:59:49.960 get that back up and running for folks. So hopefully sooner, but at the latest,

00:59:56.380 we'll know something and have something put out to you guys by the end of July.

01:00:06.540 Allie, it's good to see you here. What are your five favorite books, not lore-related?

01:00:11.600 um geez that's a really hard one i would have to say the all souls trilogy which is a girl answer

01:00:22.560 but i'll stand by that because i am a girl um it's a historical romance and they're fantastic

01:00:28.800 if you like vampires is great um the septimus heap series which is for children but they

01:00:34.400 do stand up as an adult they're fantastic um unintentionally very folkish i love them i'm

01:00:39.760 gonna read them to my kids when they're old enough um i read this bizarre book as a child about a

01:00:46.160 kid who turns the tv on after the station sign off for the night and he sees lizards playing

01:00:50.640 saxophones so lizard music i thought it was a fever dream it's also incredible um i collect

01:00:58.080 old cookbooks so i'm gonna have to use a cheater answer and say old cookbooks are some of my

01:01:03.520 favorites and um forbidden archaeology it's a book about things that are just found in the wrong

01:01:11.280 place you know they don't make sense just alternative history and that sort of thing

01:01:17.200 all right also part of the same meta question that this is uh what is your favorite saga

01:01:24.160 does the grimness small count as a saga because that is my answer no no okay

01:01:32.800 full song a saga cheater answer again but it's a good one counts all right and uh what is

01:01:43.640 your favorite food recipe? Oh, geez. Not my favorite one to make, but the one that goes

01:01:55.260 over best in my house is something called the Runza. It's a Nebraska specialty. So I

01:02:01.280 enjoy making those because I enjoy feeding them to my family. It's a yeast roll that's

01:02:06.400 got cabbage and ground beef baked into it.

01:02:11.000 Sounds awesome.

01:02:14.080 All right, and your favorite romantic movie.

01:02:17.680 Oh, geez, see, I'm not a romance fan in terms of movies.

01:02:21.320 I can give you like-

01:02:22.160 Just tell me about those books.

01:02:23.520 Okay, but it's not a movie though.

01:02:26.880 I could give you a hundred horror movies I like.

01:02:28.800 I don't like any, I've never seen a romance movie I liked, so.

01:02:33.000 Okay.

01:02:33.760 Yep.

01:02:35.080 Fair enough.

01:02:36.400 Okay, so the next question is kind of the first part of that question with the add-on

01:02:45.660 of what are you reading currently?

01:02:50.540 Currently, I have been looking through, I just finished rereading The Shining, which

01:02:58.240 is incredible.

01:02:59.740 The movie's good, but the book is so much better.

01:03:01.560 um but right now i am just flipping through all of my old recipe books and trying to just

01:03:08.120 condense them down my favorites into into one notebook so i guess that's what i'm reading right

01:03:14.160 now all right um so folks we have only been on for an hour there is no problem having a brief

01:03:28.120 episode but if you guys do have questions please throw them out there we'll give it a couple of

01:03:33.560 more minutes here to generate any any extra questions you guys might have um

01:03:43.960 but yeah if you guys got questions please throw them out if not we'll sign off early tonight

01:03:48.760 um i will go get some dinner and spend some time with my wife and child before they go to sleep

01:03:54.280 if that is the case. One thing that I do want to point out about Alexander Rudd Mills that I think

01:04:03.360 is important is that he stood up for his faith and his beliefs, his worldview for our folk at a time

01:04:19.600 where it wasn't popular to do so, and he faced consequences for it. His time during the Second

01:04:25.380 World War where he was in an internment camp, that's significant. There were ways that he could

01:04:32.500 have gotten out of that by renouncing our faith, by disavowing our folk and his beliefs for our

01:04:39.340 folk, and he didn't take the easy road, and it harmed him professionally. You know, he was trying

01:04:45.520 for a political career he was he was a you know gainfully employed barrister he had things going

01:04:52.720 on that he he paid a very real price for and it's something to something to keep in mind and to be

01:05:02.480 inspired by um one of the one of the things that i were constantly

01:05:11.280 I'm constantly reminded of and I constantly want to continue to beat the drum on

01:05:18.580 is that this is a real faith and we need to take it seriously like a real faith.

01:05:28.700 So many of us have gotten very used to our associations and our things in our life being

01:05:34.160 casual and disposable. And a lot of us have lived so comfortably, myself included, that

01:05:41.160 it's the idea of facing consequence is terrifying even when the consequences is pretty small in

01:05:53.400 comparison we have so many people that are scared to put their real name behind what they do

01:06:00.760 or to put their real name behind their association with yas true folk assembly

01:06:05.760 in a vague fear that they might be doxed at whatever job they may have. And that's terrible.

01:06:14.240 And I sympathize with those folks. Please don't get me wrong. But it's hard when someone like

01:06:22.640 Alexander Rudd Mills put himself out there and he was, you know, willing to be a prisoner in his

01:06:32.080 own country for a time absolutely sacrifice his career in the life that he had going for you know

01:06:41.120 a period of years because he was proud of his faith he was proud of the church that he had founded

01:06:49.520 and the idea of disavowing his faith would have been unthinkable to him or to kind of wink wink

01:06:57.200 nudge nudge keep it private but say the right thing publicly would have been such a great

01:07:02.400 dishonor to him that it wasn't even conceivable and i think that really is his legacy if i can

01:07:07.600 jump in for a sec i think that really is his legacy because you see um you know a decade

01:07:13.120 after his death you've got a group of students from his alma mater going and petitioning the

01:07:18.720 government um to allow them to practice and demanding that they would not be persecuted

01:07:25.200 because he really was persecuted um and that fight lasted 20 years until members of parliament

01:07:32.320 finally allowed a freedom of religion um and allowed the odinic right of australia to even

01:07:38.400 be recognized as anything more than a cult as they called it yeah i think that's

01:07:50.320 that's something that we all can learn from and one of the things that i think is so special

01:07:55.040 about relatively modern heroes we need to remember with all of our heroes that they

01:08:02.480 were men and women that existed just like us they were you know white aryan homo sapiens

01:08:11.840 just like the rest of us the same skull structure the same brain capacity the same feelings the same 0.79

01:08:18.880 capacity to love, or to hate, or to feel pain, to endure hardship, and to bear those things.

01:08:31.300 And when we look at them in a completely different age and a different time,

01:08:36.020 it's easy not to consider their personal struggles as tangible. With our modern heroes,

01:08:43.840 when you see a picture of alexander rudd mills he could be any of our you know great grandfather

01:08:52.080 um he's wearing a tie and modern clothes and doing modern things and you know writing books and

01:09:01.520 it's much easier to picture yourself in his shoes or him in yours and relate to

01:09:09.280 to the the life he lived and the things that he dealt with um you can't view with the same

01:09:16.740 indifference that you do uh folk in early medieval times or in you know antiquity when they went

01:09:24.760 through hardships because you can it's harder to relate to those people but to relate to our

01:09:30.320 modern heroes and what they did i think it's a much more tangible um ideal to hold yourself

01:09:39.220 to you know he wasn't a viking he wasn't out you know battling lines of people with an axe

01:09:49.140 he was a very you know modern man of his age trying to hold down a job trying to

01:09:55.620 do the same things that so many of us do

01:10:01.860 it's very much apples to apples comparing yourself in your life

01:10:05.860 to to things that he went through and trying to hold yourself to that same standard of

01:10:10.820 integrity honor wasn't a foreign concept of chivalry honor was not disavowing the things

01:10:19.940 that he deeply believed just because it would help him not saying nodding and going along with

01:10:24.820 you know saying the right things politically to salvage a career not living in a false way

01:10:31.860 in order to you know somehow have his cake and eating eating it too being willing to

01:10:37.780 suffer persecution for the sake of our gods and to still hold his faith and hold strong um

01:10:45.060 yeah i i i'm i think i'm i'm beating a dead horse on that but it's

01:10:51.620 it's something i want everybody to internalize and i want us to you know do that and i hope

01:10:56.340 that we get to do that by these episodes i hope they inspire people to read up on our modern

01:11:02.340 heroes to take an interest in these people in their lives um as true is a real thing and we

01:11:10.020 live history every day uh there's you know there are folk among us who will be celebrated as heroes

01:11:19.380 and generations to come uh hopefully we we make ourselves worthy of that but we generate heroes

01:11:27.060 for our faith all the time and we live in a very special time to where we have those opportunities

01:11:33.860 to become heroes of our faith we live in a time where we are just seeing the fruits of the

01:11:40.740 resurgence of our faith we're just developing hoffs we're growing so much is happening and

01:11:47.380 and Ausatru is so dynamic right now in how it grows.

01:11:51.660 Each of us can have such a huge impact

01:11:54.440 on how that grows and develops

01:11:57.060 on the future of our faith and of our church.

01:12:00.360 There's so much we can do now

01:12:01.820 and so much opportunity to be the heroes

01:12:04.600 that are celebrated in the future.

01:12:06.660 And it's something I want everybody to keep in mind.

01:12:12.860 You check and see if we have generated any last questions.

01:12:17.100 I think we have.

01:12:18.600 Ah, we have.

01:12:20.780 Whoa, we really have.

01:12:22.860 We've got quite a few now.

01:12:24.920 Alrighty.

01:12:28.300 Allie, what is your favorite music genre?

01:12:33.200 I listen to everything but country,

01:12:34.960 but if I had to choose one thing to listen to

01:12:37.120 for the rest of my life, it would be 80 zero pop.

01:12:42.260 Strange off the wall answer.

01:12:43.700 I'm sure y'all don't expect it of me,

01:12:45.460 but AHA is 10 out of 10.

01:12:50.540 Fair enough.

01:12:54.480 Next question,

01:12:57.080 where to meet Ausitru girls and women?

01:13:02.820 What is your advice for single men involved in Ausitru

01:13:07.820 on how they can find an Ausitru lady in their life?

01:13:12.160 Join the AFA, come to our events, 1.00

01:13:15.220 impress the married women and we'll set you up. 0.98

01:13:22.900 That may not be the fun answer. 1.00

01:13:25.740 I think that people are really spoiled by hookup culture.

01:13:34.840 I think that, you know, there's no AFA tender

01:13:38.100 for you to swipe stuff on.

01:13:41.800 And what is happening, though, and what Allie points out, that's how these things work.

01:13:50.040 In a society where we're living with our folk, in a folk community, the women get together and they talk.

01:13:58.720 And people matchmake, people help people get together, people kind of feel out who'd be a good match for who.

01:14:05.280 And if the women in the community value what you bring to the table as a man, they're able to do some of that legwork for you to sell you as a potential mate.

01:14:17.660 And that's really special that we're at a time where we can do that.

01:14:23.640 One of the things that I would say is don't allow geography to be limiting to you.

01:14:29.640 I know that that's difficult if you just want a date or something casual in your life, but if you're trying to find someone to build a life with and build a family with, geography can be overcome.

01:14:44.320 It's not easy, but very few things that are, you know, that are really worth it in life are.

01:14:51.160 Through the AFA, you can build lasting and amazing things.

01:14:55.080 And I say it every week because it's true. It happened for me and it made all the difference.

01:15:01.200 I wasn't, you know, when I was also true, even when I was in the AFA, I wasn't always with Mandy.

01:15:05.460 I had a number of girlfriends before then that, you know, maybe they were sort of accepting or, you know, they were, you know, at least not some other faith. 0.51

01:15:15.100 but finding a woman in the house true folk assembly is a whole different it's a whole 0.93

01:15:24.420 different life um and it made literally everything better and we couldn't have been farther apart and

01:15:31.300 still be in north america but it worked we've got we've got a three-year-old baby girl now and

01:15:38.160 it's it's beautiful and it's special it's a real thing it's not the only example of that in the

01:15:43.580 AFA at all. So it certainly can be done. How is everything going with Sigerheim? Things are going

01:15:56.720 fantastic with Sigerheim. I don't know if you've been paying attention to some of the announcements

01:16:02.360 on events. I usually do that at the top of the program, but we're fixing to have

01:16:08.260 our first big annual national event at Sigurheim. It's going to be Sigur Bloat at Sigurheim.

01:16:19.180 This is the first one, but every July, this is going to happen from now until forever.

01:16:26.880 It's a little bit rustic right now because we don't have a lot of infrastructure out there.

01:16:31.080 We're still getting some of those things set up. We do, Sigurheim does have a mailbox now.

01:16:35.300 uh there's there's a mailbox where we're getting mail delivered to we've got um one semi-permanent

01:16:43.060 shed area there on some gravel that's been brought in we are moving and shaking it takes a while to

01:16:49.780 get services set up because there is quite a backlog on that but we're working on it we're

01:16:56.660 going to host our event out there here on the 22nd of july i'm going out for it i'm very excited

01:17:05.300 Yeah, things things are moving. We've got several families that are signed on to move out there when the situation is right. And we're we're looking at that. Believe me, I'm I'm bothering folks daily on that because I'm itching to move out there and make it happen.

01:17:20.300 um so yeah it's it's developing and honestly it's developing faster than

01:17:25.660 than i thought that it might we're still in you know we got it towards the end of december so

01:17:34.100 you know we're not even a full seven months into it yet and we already have two people

01:17:41.080 that have moved out there and we've got more coming so siggerheim's going fantastic

01:17:47.440 allie when are you going to start watching 90s and early 2000s pro wrestling i'm not against

01:18:01.360 it i'm not against the idea um i guess whenever cody decides to buy me a movie projector we got

01:18:07.380 rid of our television because we watched too much television so it's on cody at this point

01:18:11.900 so bug him please all right um what are your five favorite horror movies okay so i'm gonna have to

01:18:24.780 count the shining i love the shining um chopping mall is incredible 1987 they get stuck in a

01:18:31.980 shopping mall with robocop type uh room buzz that start killing people it's great um the ice cream

01:18:39.340 man um that one's fantastic ice cream man goes nuts starts uh combining his love of ice cream

01:18:48.540 and corpses they're all pretty great um tourist trap a guy starts making wax dolls out of people

01:18:57.580 that stumble into his tourist trap and uh last one i'd have to say demon wind guy goes to

01:19:08.540 to investigate his grandparents' farm finds out it's full of demons. All right. Ali, how do you

01:19:17.860 balance everything you do for the AFA and family time? Carefully, very carefully. A lot of times

01:19:25.460 I'm doing two things at once. I know I've been on many, many phone calls and many meetings while

01:19:31.540 i'm making dinner or doing something else um a lot of times you know i'm i've got the kids on

01:19:39.060 one side and i'm you know updating me we on the other making sure that my moot posters are put

01:19:43.560 together while they're you know while finn's doing his his home school so it just um so it's

01:19:50.080 a lot of balance it's a lot of uh sometimes my house isn't you know clean enough to invite the

01:19:54.640 king of England, but it's clean enough that I, you know, I can do other stuff right now.

01:20:05.780 Um, I gotta find where I was at. Cool. Um, all right, there we go. Uh, will you guys ever sell

01:20:20.860 physical copies of the odinist or the runestone in a compilation and are they available to print

01:20:27.180 out for free uh runestones yes you can print them out um we've got the runestones every runestone

01:20:36.540 that we have access to and can find on our library section at www.runestone.org and you can certainly

01:20:46.780 print those out i don't know how printer friendly the file is we've talked about that and

01:20:57.340 i know that james alt is working on compiling odinists

01:21:05.740 i'm not sure what form that's finally going to take as far as selling like a physical compilation

01:21:13.340 of the rune stone i don't know i'm not opposed to it the idea has been been talked about a little

01:21:18.540 bit but it is accessible the library as we have it is accessible for free at our website and i

01:21:24.700 would encourage everybody to go back and read those those old editions i scanned a lot of those

01:21:30.380 in myself and it was it was fascinating to just read those those snippets of of time and place

01:21:37.980 of the development of the afa and avows true even earlier than that back in the free assembly days

01:21:43.340 any update on Sigurheim or other people being added to the list of heroes uh well i updated

01:22:01.580 you on Sigurheim the best that i've got for right now as far as folks being up like updated and

01:22:07.820 added to the list of heroes we've added three people this year um we added

01:22:20.060 well first we added and we discussed him two weeks ago uh svein bjorn bientenson

01:22:25.500 the founder of the australia in iceland and we celebrate his day of remembrance was actually

01:22:33.820 yesterday we have also added um hoskold and stubba of the odenic rite each have their own

01:22:43.100 day of remembrance as pioneers of our faith as well john ewell and john gibbs bailey they uh so

01:22:55.180 we have done our episode on hoskold earlier and we'll be doing one on stubba in

01:23:03.820 I don't know, a few weeks.

01:23:06.260 About a month.

01:23:07.180 It's Cody's episode.

01:23:08.520 There we go, then, in about a month.

01:23:10.520 Appreciate the save on that.

01:23:12.740 This is the first year that we've had these days of remembrance,

01:23:15.020 so I've got to check back on the calendar often until I get them kind of internalized.

01:23:23.860 This one is for me.

01:23:25.160 also your gofi what is the most important thing we can do to ensure future generations

01:23:31.240 of alsatru produce great heroes of our faith

01:23:41.640 so

01:23:41.800 So, this is a complex answer because there's no just one thing.

01:23:55.400 The big thing is to internalize Ausatru and the Ausatru Folk Assembly within your life

01:24:07.700 and within your family. 0.96

01:24:10.300 To raise your children in this in such a way that Ausitru and your membership in the Ausitru

01:24:16.740 Folk Assembly is a bedrock of your family's traditions and development, is something that

01:24:23.440 your kids learn from as early on as you can teach them, that this is an integral part

01:24:30.380 of their life so that this is very, very deadly serious to them and not something disposable as

01:24:40.920 so much in our modern world is. So it's not treated as a smorgasbord of just kind of pick

01:24:47.500 and choose what religion you want and where you want to go and what church you want to do. We

01:24:51.900 build heroes by this being life or death what we do internalizing that within your family to where

01:25:01.440 your marriage and your children are built and structured with that in mind is how we're going

01:25:08.820 to raise those heroes for your kids having this as their religious touchstone from the earliest

01:25:14.940 times that they can conceive of it and seeing our priests as connected to our gods seeing our church

01:25:23.800 as connected to gods that they absolutely believe in since they were born that's what's going to

01:25:31.660 enable them to stand strong as heroes for this later on in their life when this is a generational

01:25:39.600 institution and not a hobby or a club or you know a political accessory when this is a genuine faith

01:25:53.240 that they see their parents practice with piety and with reverence and take deadly serious

01:26:00.200 then those are going to be the heroes of our future and we're working hard on that getting

01:26:06.780 Getting kids enrolled in the Ask True Academy is a huge part of that so that this is a fundamental

01:26:12.720 to the way that they're raised and educated.

01:26:16.600 But yeah, the answer to that lies in how serious we role model this for our children, not how

01:26:22.840 serious we tell our children this is.

01:26:26.560 how serious our children witness this being in our life so i believe this question is for you

01:26:39.920 do you like any movies or tv shows based on norse myths or history

01:26:48.080 i can't say that i do i tried to watch vikings and it just kind of annoyed me so

01:26:52.960 So it was too LARP-y and not really into that sort of thing.

01:27:02.420 I think this one's to both of us.

01:27:07.000 What is your opinion?

01:27:08.460 And I'll have you answer this first.

01:27:10.060 What is your opinion on how our myths are relevant in our lives today?

01:27:13.400 um i think there's just so many um

01:27:20.760 so many general lessons and general themes that you can apply to so much of your life whether

01:27:25.080 that be you know your own life or parenting or your job or anything like that there's so many

01:27:31.320 so many truths and the the virtues especially um seeing those lived out is uh

01:27:36.360 definitely, definitely relevant, and will always be relevant. They're timeless, timeless themes.

01:27:48.400 It's a thing I think that, as I said earlier, myths take place in mythic time. They're no more

01:27:57.560 relevant in the Viking Age than they are now. The way they were written down in the language and the

01:28:04.420 points of reference with day-to-day things is obviously from that time period, but the stories

01:28:11.860 are just as relevant to us today as they were then. Most importantly, our myths lay out the

01:28:19.960 basic foundation of who our gods are in ways that we can recognize and associate things with them.

01:28:30.860 building a faith with our very real and very living gods is the thing that's always relevant

01:28:37.260 and is reinforced by going back to and rereading and re-understanding those myths

01:28:48.620 ali what is a personal goal you have within the afa um personally i would like to see

01:28:55.420 nebraska hit 20 or 25 members i know there's the interest it's just a matter of getting in touch

01:29:00.700 with these people reaching out to them bringing them home i would love to have a big strong

01:29:05.660 community here how has that been going for you in nebraska it's been going really well we have

01:29:15.260 a nice core group that is just they're awesome people um our kindred is just fantastic i love

01:29:21.580 getting together with them i love doing stuff with them i'm not saying a lot because i'm such

01:29:25.180 a homebody i don't want to i don't really love to socialize but um with my afa family it's so much

01:29:32.140 different it's so much easier so you know just having them bring their friends into the fold and

01:29:38.380 you know put us in touch with people who might be interested it's uh that's our next step

01:29:45.580 looking over in our chat and something that's really really kind of special is we have um

01:29:52.700 can't tell the gender i was going to say a guy but we have a person in uh in australia in

01:30:02.300 uh fern tree gully where rud mills is buried on the chat tonight that's really cool i think

01:30:09.500 that's really special um and uh thank you am for uh joining us this evening

01:30:18.140 uh daniel asks i was here you go can you explain pirate uh pious reverent devotion and it's

01:30:26.680 important so i've already harped on this quite a bit on this show but i will always take the

01:30:33.720 opportunity to harp on it more i think it's it's fundamental

01:30:36.680 and it's worth us all going back to and re-looking at every now and again

01:30:43.960 I mentioned this in my RuneStone article this month, and that should be coming out.

01:30:50.360 Hopefully that's coming out tonight.

01:30:59.780 Piety and reverence are an active thing.

01:31:05.620 And if you do them long enough, they become passive to where that is your habit.

01:31:11.100 But but initially, and it's worthwhile for all of us, but especially initially, it's something you have to build into your personality of who you are and what makes you tick.

01:31:25.220 um we are also true also true literally means loyal to the isere the focus of our faith

01:31:42.320 of our church the afa and of how we live our lives and define ourselves

01:31:48.880 should be in large part aimed at the gods and not at our buddies or at other

01:32:00.440 things. I think it's really important to stop and consider. And I've seen this. I've seen this

01:32:09.900 even with Gothar when we're doing a bloat. Everyone, and I'll admit, I think this myself

01:32:18.140 sometimes. You wonder, man, how was that bloat? Did people like it? Cool. It would be great if

01:32:26.860 people did like it. But the most important thing, if I'm doing an Odin bloat, is how did Odin like

01:32:34.660 it? If the people liked it, that's a cool bonus. But if the people hated it and Odin loved it,

01:32:41.860 then cool. It works and it was a good bloat and it's everyone else's problem besides mine

01:32:48.120 and the All Fathers. And let's not say that's the case. I genuinely, worry's not the right term,

01:32:57.380 but I genuinely am concerned every time wanting to make sure that the bloats I perform are well

01:33:03.780 received by the God I'm bloating to. It's not about whether the people there liked it. It's

01:33:11.360 great if they did. It is in a way about whether it connected the people who were there to the

01:33:18.960 God that we're worshiping. But the fundamental on who needs to like it is Odin needs to like it.

01:33:26.040 How often in our life do we consider the choices that we make in terms of,

01:33:32.200 does this make the gods proud? If the gods were here right now and heard me speak such and such

01:33:41.980 a way, would they be proud of me or would they be ashamed of me? Man, here's what I'm wearing

01:33:49.700 to bloat. Here's what I'm wearing to an event. Here's how I'm presenting myself. When the gods

01:33:54.820 see me? Are they impressed? Do they like what they see? Or are they disgusted? Do we ever

01:34:03.600 even really think about that? I think a lot of the times we don't. You know, when the

01:34:09.760 gods witness something we do, our deeds, are they proud? Are they, you know, do they shrug

01:34:19.120 their shoulders or are they ashamed? Thinking in those terms is that reverent piety that we all

01:34:26.960 need to have. We need to build within our mindset that we want to make our gods proud in who we are

01:34:36.400 and how we look and how we act and how we communicate in the deeds that we do. We want

01:34:43.820 our gods to be proud of us. And that is a huge distinction between people who are serious in

01:34:54.600 their faith and hobbyists, is whether they internalize that and make that the standard

01:35:00.760 they judge their life by. And in modern Ausitru, that reverence and piety has been severely lacking.

01:35:09.740 in the afa it has been growing tremendously over the years and i'm very proud that it's

01:35:15.180 at the highest point that it's ever been in the afa and i hope we keep moving forward that way

01:35:21.100 and i hope more and more of our of our members can internalize that into their lives and their families

01:35:26.860 next up uh tracy asks this sort of off topic but i wanted to ask what you guys think about frith

01:35:43.180 versus griff and how is it important as it applies to the afa ali what are your thoughts um

01:35:50.940 Um, it's something that's been very important in the, the stuff that I've been taught by

01:35:56.860 Witten Callahan, especially has been, you know, women are frith builders. That is our job. We

01:36:02.120 build those connections between the folk. And I think there's a lot of emphasis on frith and

01:36:10.400 building in the group, as opposed to the, the grith and, you know, peace with those opposing 0.77

01:36:16.980 outside um so i don't have much to say about the griff but i definitely think that women

01:36:24.340 as frith weavers we need to really focus on building those those positive beautiful connections 0.91

01:36:31.220 because that's what's going to keep people coming home it's what's going to keep people

01:36:37.060 that are home and it's what's going to keep growing

01:36:40.340 our communities and our families is that that peace and that connection

01:36:46.980 So, it's hard because the two concepts are very, very connected, and there's kind of a gray area within the AFA on that.

01:37:05.000 It's hard for me to answer the question from an AFA member's perspective, maybe, because it's a little bit different from a leadership perspective.

01:37:14.480 but i think our folk don't understand those words or they're often mistranslated

01:37:23.980 frith is uh very often translated as frith equals peace and it doesn't um

01:37:35.300 it implies peace but the mechanism of peace is very different it's not that we need to

01:37:44.120 be peaceful with everybody. It's that it is an enforced peace because someone that I share

01:37:51.480 frith with is inviolable and I should be inviolable to them. It is standing up for them

01:37:59.160 if there is a problem and not allowing others to press on them in a bad way. And it's the

01:38:07.040 assurance that they are also looking out for you. It's much more a mutual defense pact than it is

01:38:19.880 just, we'll kind of go along for the time of the event. No, it's an active piece. It's actively

01:38:28.200 trying to ascribe, and in an AFA context, I think frith means actively applying the best motives

01:38:39.940 to anything that could be unknown, giving people the benefit of the doubt. When we have the option

01:38:48.620 of being contentious or getting along with a person, it's actively making the choice to let

01:38:56.040 some stuff slide and to get along with them. And that's something that we owe our fellows within

01:39:04.080 the AFA is treating them that way. As far as rules of hospitality and generally being good

01:39:10.960 neighbors, I think griff is very important. But within the AFA, we need to extend frith. We need

01:39:16.920 to extend, you know, we have, we have all of our folk represented in the AFA. We have people of

01:39:26.960 all different ages, all different backgrounds. We've got members in 14 different countries.

01:39:33.660 We've got people with dramatically different life experiences. And it's very easy to

01:39:40.000 get grumpy about um about people that we don't know in real life and that maybe we see

01:39:48.460 only on the internet and you can you know in any kind of electronic communications

01:39:52.980 you can take things a lot of different ways depending on what kind of day we're having we

01:39:57.660 interpret tone into things that we have no reference point to understand summer stone

01:40:02.520 And I think we all do that. Frith means to assume that they're being the best version of themselves they can be until you know otherwise. If there's a gray area, assume and take their side until you know that they're wrong.

01:40:22.100 doesn't mean to be completely blind to it, but it does mean to start from the default position of

01:40:28.240 they're right and they meant everything the best possible way and go from there. And I think that's

01:40:35.560 easier said than done, but I think it's really important and very, very relevant in how we do

01:40:41.280 things with the AFA. Allie mentioned earlier that it's a fundamental responsibility of our women 0.85

01:40:51.400 to be frith weavers women have a tremendously powerful role to play in social dynamics

01:41:01.160 and we see this a lot how women react to themselves and to men in groups

01:41:09.000 influences how everyone else in that groups sees those men and interacts women can be a catalyst

01:41:16.360 for all kind of petty nonsense and i think a lot of us have seen that know that in our life 0.90

01:41:23.400 experiences but they also have the ability to smooth that kind of stuff over in a way that men

01:41:29.480 can't women are in a unique position to build bonds amongst men that would normally be stubborn

01:41:36.680 or have difficulty doing that women on the back end building those bridges and weaving that frith

01:41:46.360 is such a valuable, valuable and special resource that we have. And you see that, you know, many

01:41:52.660 faith communities have that, the ability for the women behind the scenes to fix some of those

01:41:58.260 things. We mentioned it in the context of relationships earlier with matchmaking and 0.99

01:42:04.760 helping those things be successful. The women are really the key in that. And it's really special 1.00

01:42:12.380 that our ladies in the afa have taken such an active role in that lately

01:42:18.700 um matt you said on a stream one time that you've played your fair share of video games

01:42:25.900 any favorites and have you played elden ring i have not played elden ring um

01:42:34.860 i don't know over time sure there's been tons of games that are fun i wouldn't say i've played a

01:42:40.140 lot of video games but it's an easy thing to do to uh i don't know if you're if you're overwhelmed

01:42:51.340 or you're stressed or you need to get your mind off of stuff for a little bit it's a it's a fun

01:42:55.820 escape that way um i'm playing diablo 4 right now uh i'm in act four i haven't beat it yet so we'll

01:43:03.420 see i like uh crusader kings is a fun game um it's really nice that they incorporate

01:43:14.220 aussitrew in it which is really special and call it aussitrew and you can you know spread

01:43:21.020 the faith of aussitrew and do things that way in it it's kind of fun um

01:43:27.500 i like a lot of different things at different times it really depends uh

01:43:30.700 uh banner lord from mountain blade is really cool i like that a lot and i really like uh war of

01:43:40.580 rights which is a civil war game that's really well done with a lot of historical detail put into

01:43:46.820 it um matt and ally please explain what you think about spiritual energy and where does it come from

01:43:59.600 how does it flow from our mind slash bodies and into the hymenia thank you ali what are your

01:44:06.720 thoughts on this um obviously i can't speak for the afa but for myself i would have to say that

01:44:16.360 a lot of your spiritual energy comes from within within parts of your soul and you're able to

01:44:21.300 kind of direct that whether that's consciously or subconsciously and use that whether that's

01:44:27.120 in a magical context or just in a worship context,

01:44:31.400 give part of that to the gods as part of your bloat

01:44:34.940 or offering.

01:44:38.240 And I think that anytime that you transfer that energy,

01:44:40.280 whether that's, you know, through emotions or magic

01:44:44.800 or bloat or stumble, that's going to be when it goes out

01:44:49.400 and goes into the Hemenya.

01:44:50.840 spiritual energy is such a broad a broad topic and

01:45:06.800 it's like any other energy I think it's generated and drawn from different sources

01:45:17.720 i think each of us as a spiritual inheritance from our gods from odinville and vee when they

01:45:27.160 when they formed arian man was a certain amount of spiritual energy that comes with that breath

01:45:33.520 of life and i think that we have that i think we can enhance that and build upon that over time

01:45:40.660 through through deeds through practice one of the things that i've always said

01:45:46.420 that is essential in our belief is that spiritual energy is a currency and you can

01:45:56.480 generate a better spiritual economy, for lack of a better term, by circulating that.

01:46:04.420 So engaging in spiritual activity, the more you engage in ritual, the more you practice

01:46:09.920 using your spiritual energy, the greater that pool of spiritual energy becomes.

01:46:16.420 The more you gain recognition from our gods, the more you gain reputation and celebration from our folk, the greater the magnitude of the spiritual energy that you have.

01:46:30.980 And we see that in a number of different ways.

01:46:34.100 I think a lot of us can feel that in a person's magnetism when you're around them.

01:46:39.880 if somebody has, you know, if somebody has a presence to them, there's people that when they

01:46:46.060 walk in the room, they have presence. That presence is a reflection of spiritual energy

01:46:51.580 in a lot of ways. You see spiritual energy manifested in your ability to manipulate

01:47:00.800 situations or when you know positive reaction from people you see spiritual energy when you

01:47:10.280 see how animals relate to people you know they always talk about how pets are such a good judge

01:47:15.580 of character very often because they experience the world through things that we don't see

01:47:21.440 They don't perceive things in the same way. They sniff out what kind of person you are

01:47:33.660 through an entirely different set of categories and criteria than we do. And

01:47:40.620 they pick up on that energy in a way that we typically don't. But you see that a lot. People

01:47:47.120 with second sight can see you know auras or spiritual energy emanating from a person and

01:47:54.120 so we transfer that through a lot of ways but i think the most important way that that's

01:48:00.360 transmitted is through um through will and through willed action you consciously spend

01:48:09.080 that on stuff that you do and i think you subtly spend that unconsciously on things

01:48:14.620 that you focus large amounts of your time or your energy towards but you can consciously spend that

01:48:21.980 on things that you want to do through ritual context and ritual behavior and we see that

01:48:29.420 primarily you know we see that all the time but that is one of the primary functions of bloat

01:48:34.060 is exchanging spiritual energy with our gods of us pouring that into the horn channeling that

01:48:40.140 spiritual energy and sending it to them and then asking them to bless us with spiritual energy in

01:48:47.500 return that cycle keeps that energy churning and refreshes that spiritual economy as it were

01:48:58.380 i think that how spiritual energy transfers into hymenia is

01:49:03.900 so i'm not an electrical engineer and i don't want to overextend the metaphors

01:49:12.300 but i think that to a degree that hymenia is your batteries for your spiritual energy i think

01:49:20.540 that's where it is stored and becomes your reservoir of it and i think that it transfers

01:49:30.260 into that in a meaningful way, the more willful your spiritual activity. I think there's, you can

01:49:36.380 pick up spiritual energy from a lot of different sources and some of it just comes and goes. I

01:49:40.820 think that of it that's stored and actually builds your hymenia is done

01:49:46.320 a lot through intent. And so I think when you're intentionally doing things, you're doing things

01:49:55.160 certainly in a ritual context, it more efficiently builds hymenia than if it happens by happenstance.

01:50:03.340 You know, atheists and people that don't even conceive of their life in a spiritual way,

01:50:07.940 they still have spiritual energy. I think because they don't intentionally cultivate it,

01:50:14.560 their hymenia is weaker than folks that don't have that or that do conceive of life in a

01:50:20.640 spiritual way. By that same token, I think that people who aren't of our faith, but are spiritual

01:50:25.600 people, build a hymenia that is much bigger than an atheist because they have a context and a

01:50:33.180 willful gathering of spiritual energy in a way that atheists don't. But there's still that initial

01:50:40.700 spiritual energy that exists and that they pick up through, you know, blindly stumbling through

01:50:45.680 life so it's i hope that addresses the question in the way that you meant it

01:50:55.120 when man when i asked for new questions we just got overloaded with the questions here so that's

01:51:00.800 awesome thank you guys for your questions zero percent of that is a complaint in any way it's

01:51:06.560 really cool that all of a sudden all these questions appear um

01:51:10.000 Oustru no doubt has some Viking aesthetics and influence when does it go too far and become

01:51:20.200 LARPy can we still have Viking shields and similar decorations in group settings so

01:51:29.020 there's no perfect answer of when it becomes too LARPy but it's one of those things is

01:51:35.740 people genuinely generally know when it does. You can't draw a defining line of where it's LARP

01:51:42.680 and where it's not, but you smell it when it is and everybody kind of gets it. And so I think

01:51:49.700 there's an art to figuring that out. And sometimes, you know, any of us may fall on either side of

01:51:54.560 that. Obviously, some Viking themed elements of stuff are cool. Vikings are awesome.

01:52:01.560 um you know many of us have viking weapons that we'll have somewhere and you know maybe have an

01:52:08.680 axe on the wall or something and that's cool um dressing up and talking in a way that's completely

01:52:15.400 unnatural takes people out of them i think that's one of the big things about larp as opposed to

01:52:23.080 doing curious things from different times it becomes larpy when it is poorly received and

01:52:35.380 is very out of place and you see things that are just socially out of place all the time

01:52:42.360 when everybody's having a conversation on one wavelength and somebody brings up something

01:52:47.120 completely random and it breaks the mood and everybody looks at them funny you can do that

01:52:53.200 with with the larpy stuff that you do if you're in a group of reenactors and they're all doing larpy

01:52:59.760 things they're all doing those kind of things then obviously the tolerance for it is much higher

01:53:05.760 but you can still do strange socially

01:53:10.240 socially ignorant things in that context that make you appear larpy even in the larp group

01:53:15.840 um so i don't think there's a good there's a good answer on that i think common sense determines a

01:53:23.940 lot of that obviously when we do you know ritual we have you know a horn that we drink out of

01:53:30.000 it'd be much easier just to drink out of a big cup or or a glass or whatever else or a mug

01:53:36.060 but it's not something that people look strangely at or find odd

01:53:45.840 so a lot of it just has to do with the social atmosphere that you're in and how off-putting

01:53:52.880 your your behavior or the strange viking elements you're adding to things are um i it

01:54:01.440 a lot of it has to do with how far you want to alienate yourself from the group dynamic

01:54:09.520 one of the most important things about also true is its community aspect it's not an individual

01:54:18.480 faith it can be but that's not what its intent is that's not the fundamentals of its practice

01:54:26.080 it's fundamentally practiced within a community so your reputation and how your peers in that

01:54:31.600 community well not even just your peers how anyone in that community judges you how your

01:54:37.200 betters view you how your peers view you how those below you view you how your friends view you and

01:54:43.760 how your enemies view you your social context for what you do is important and how far being an

01:54:54.880 oddball you're trying to be that's kind of the key on the larpy deal is when you move so far

01:55:02.960 that your community looks at you strange then you've become larpy there's an acceptable bounds

01:55:09.120 and you may not know where the line is but you certainly know when you've crossed it or at least

01:55:13.520 other people in the room do so social acuity is i'd say fundamental in figuring out what's larpy and

01:55:20.960 what's not um ali is there a path to bring more women to aussitrew in your opinion what's your

01:55:32.080 plan as a future folk builder and how do you see the usa in 10 years thank you um i think the path

01:55:41.760 to bringing more women into australia is bringing more women into leadership and we've been seeing

01:55:46.400 that a lot lately a lot of the people that are stepping up to become apprentice folk builders

01:55:50.080 have been women um because we have such strong women already in leadership um i mean it was

01:55:56.720 witten callahan on this program talking about how ostriches are birthright that it was like yeah

01:56:03.440 yes it is that makes a lot of sense ma'am so seeing those strong women and creating more

01:56:10.640 strong women to lead other women home is going to be a big key for that um i can only see us growing

01:56:18.320 in the next 10 years though not only just adding more women but more children we're we have so many

01:56:26.480 babies born in the last few years um in 10 years some of those kids that have been born into the

01:56:32.400 austral folk assembly are going to be old enough to start families of their own

01:56:36.400 so we're gonna we're gonna be seeing generational growth in 10 years and that's incredible

01:56:47.760 all right um ali and matt i know this may be a personal question

01:56:54.560 but do you have a personal altar in your home what type of items do you keep on your altar

01:57:00.720 and how do you put it to use in your daily life

01:57:05.280 ali tell us about your personal altar practice please okay i have two we have our ancestor altar

01:57:12.160 um which is in one corner of the living room and then we've got my altar which is on the big

01:57:16.000 bookshelf um generally at any time i have the candle lit from the folk flame at bouldershoff

01:57:24.560 incense little trinkets that mean something whether that's you know it reminds me of an

01:57:31.280 ancestor or someone i'm hoping to call upon or a god um i keep my runes there i keep um

01:57:42.000 things from past events i've got a piece of the ship from the feast of the unharry are i've got

01:57:46.160 my flower crown i've got uh i can't remember exactly what it is but i've got something from

01:57:51.840 yule at baldursoff so i keep all of that stuff together keep it you know in a special area on

01:57:58.320 the altar and uh generally every day i do the fulcrum hum chant uh nine times over the flame

01:58:05.200 from baldursoff and uh pray as needed i guess so yeah i've um i have an altar here in my office

01:58:19.200 i'm actually looking at it now it's it's on the other side of the room um used to be out in the

01:58:25.360 main area of the house but you know as my daughter grew it's a it's a fun thing to reach up and grab

01:58:31.600 stuff stuff off of so we've had to move where it's located um you know i've since i've that was one

01:58:42.320 of the first things that i did when i came home to alsatrew was was establish an altar in my house

01:58:47.840 and i've i've always had one um it eventually you know it got way too crowded with stuff so i i

01:58:59.280 have kind of a number of boxes of where where stuff is and different stuff's on the altar

01:59:04.320 at different times depending on the season or depending upon you know what what i think needs

01:59:10.800 to be there at the time i've got um got god statues on the altar i have various candles

01:59:24.240 various candles for different reasons um i've got a resin incense burner on there that i'd

01:59:32.480 like to burn some resin incense on over a tea light i've actually got that going right now

01:59:40.800 i have my runes on it and it depends if there's something that i'm specifically going to use in

01:59:47.200 ritual that i want to i don't know be be charged by being on the altar i'll set it there for for

01:59:54.960 a while beforehand i also have a big brass big brass shallow bowl that he uses as an offering

02:00:05.200 plate or as an offering bowl um i have that there uh how do i use it it really depends um

02:00:15.200 you know i i come before it and light candles and and say prayers often i'll sit before it

02:00:23.200 and meditate and do you know runic meditation either in general or directed at a purpose

02:00:31.440 from time to time um haven't done that in a little while it's a good reminder i should probably do

02:00:36.800 some more of that um yeah i most often just come before it in prayer and make little offerings of

02:00:46.320 incense or of you know sharing a drink of something um in thanks or in affirmation i

02:00:58.480 I like to come before my altar and give thanks for things often, and if I'm going to do something

02:01:08.040 or if I want the God's blessing on things that I have in mind that I want to do, I'll

02:01:13.560 come there and ask for their guidance in that.

02:01:18.880 Sometimes I'll come before my altar to reaffirm things, reaffirm my commitment to certain

02:01:26.760 things reaffirm my loyalty uh to to reaffirm things that i've made commitments to from time

02:01:37.160 to time and i think that's most often what i do with my altar so a different situation initially

02:01:45.880 the way my house is set up there's this uh

02:01:48.040 angled staircase with two flights of stairs and in the i guess four-year area where the staircase

02:02:01.800 makes its bend is where my altar was and i have all the pictures of my ancestors up

02:02:07.880 you know up and down the staircase so sometimes i'll go stand in that middle

02:02:12.040 you know middle landing in the between the top stairs and the bottom stairs and

02:02:18.040 address my ancestors and that's a little bit different that's typically something that i

02:02:21.800 would do at my altar because it was kind of all connected but since they're not i will go there

02:02:27.560 and say things to the ancestors sometimes just say good morning especially if i've got my daughter

02:02:35.080 with me or give thanks or things that way so that's usually what i do with my altar practice

02:02:40.440 Ali, what is your favorite event? My favorite event that I've been to so far was the Feast of the

02:02:54.140 End Harrier in Oklahoma. It was my first event. It was really great. I got to meet some incredible

02:02:57.960 people. And just meeting Steve McNallan for the first time was just the coolest experience of my

02:03:04.760 life so all right ali you look beautiful and your skin is absolutely glowing do you have any special

02:03:13.300 self-care rituals you can share um sorry about that my cat just laid on the cord that my phone's

02:03:23.520 connected to so it keeps knocking it over but um none in particular i meditate um like when i'm

02:03:30.960 my hair and stuff because it takes a while so i kind of like think on the same mantra besides that

02:03:36.000 i can credit dr bronner's all right um okay ali let's hear about those five favorite war movies

02:03:53.040 um now i'm not huge on war movies i think maybe they misunderstood when i said horror movies

02:04:00.080 they did i think that's why i think that's the inside joke but we're welcome to hear your five

02:04:05.520 favorite war movies if you got it um i watched band of brothers and i bawled like a baby so i

02:04:10.160 don't really watch war movies like that anymore my grandfather was actually in the pacific so i've

02:04:15.440 never tried to watch anything on that realm because i'd rather that part of his life stay a mystery to

02:04:21.520 me all right um matt what does the afa do in terms of prison outreach um

02:04:34.480 not a lot right now but more than we've ever done previously one of the big challenges

02:04:40.320 has always been just the issue of locality, finding, so I'm trying to think of the best

02:04:52.760 place to start on this. Anyways, when I became Osheria Goethe, I really wanted to tackle this

02:04:57.620 perennial question of how to best do prison ministry. So I wanted to answer all these

02:05:05.480 letters that we would get. And then I looked at the letters and the letters were never about

02:05:10.760 anything. They were about wanting products. Not that that's good, bad, or otherwise, but they

02:05:16.200 were either, hey, do you have free stuff you can send me? Or, hey, do you have a catalog where I

02:05:21.140 can buy stuff? But it was very stuff related. And I still think that's a good thing for us to

02:05:28.300 get better at doing is having that accessibility where inmates could order stuff from our website.

02:05:35.480 But beyond that, I wanted to figure out ways that we could help folks inside that want to actually practice our faith with their spiritual practice.

02:05:45.280 And that's been a harder thing that ends up having to make the connection with us true practitioners in a facility reaching out and us having a gothy or a githya close enough to facilitate that.

02:06:04.000 and that's still kind of hard to come by.

02:06:08.420 I've gone several times now out to high desert prison

02:06:14.060 to do some bloat with the guys in there

02:06:17.660 and stumble with the guys in there

02:06:19.560 and just talk to them about house of true

02:06:21.240 and answer questions.

02:06:22.500 I'd like to do more of that.

02:06:24.340 There's also another facility in California

02:06:26.460 that is a couple hours drive from me

02:06:29.280 that I think I can go to

02:06:31.220 and try to help some guys in there

02:06:33.340 If they'd like to listen, one of the other things that we do is we sponsor sponsor feasts.

02:06:40.580 One of the things that guys in there get to do is have religious meals a certain number of times per year.

02:06:45.900 But in order to do it, they need an outside organization to sponsor it and doesn't mean to fund it like they raise all the money themselves.

02:06:55.800 And I don't really understand this redundancy in the system, but it's like they've got to send the money to us.

02:07:02.920 and then us send the money back to them to make the purchase of the food.

02:07:09.520 And so we've facilitated that now a couple of times, and we're very open to doing that often.

02:07:18.180 That's a really easy thing we can do that I think helps them quite a bit.

02:07:22.400 um it's been really special to go in the times that i have and uh

02:07:31.600 just be treated like uh like a colleague by the chaplaincy there um that's a nice feeling and the

02:07:39.200 guys there really appreciated my coming out the times that i've been and it was it was it was

02:07:46.000 really positive experience i wasn't really sure what to expect that uh prison has not been any

02:07:51.280 part of my life experience so i wasn't really sure what that what that was like and it was

02:07:58.160 it was it was much more positive than i guess i worried it might be and uh it was really kind of

02:08:04.000 a pleasant pleasant experience every time that i've done that so i look forward to some more

02:08:08.880 of that in the future the other thing that we're working on right now um is getting this show

02:08:15.440 victory never sleeps accessible on their uh i don't know the right lingo but on their devices

02:08:21.520 that they have that they can download podcasts and music and things on we're currently in the

02:08:27.680 process trying to get this as one of one of their options um so we're going to keep pushing on that

02:08:33.360 until we until we make it happen i think that's going to be a really important thing uh nick

02:08:37.920 threw up our prison ministry fund if anybody wants to donate towards that the information is up on

02:08:43.760 the screen so there you go 0.94

02:08:53.840 what would you say to an atheist to sell them on ouster true and would you say that convincing

02:08:59.760 atheists to become ouster true is harder than convincing people with religious backgrounds um

02:09:06.720 What would I say? I don't know. It depends on the atheist and it depends on the conversation. 1.00

02:09:18.700 I think that, you know, I did a whole and you can find it on our YouTube channel. I'm not sure if

02:09:25.380 that's where you're watching this tonight or not. But if you go to our YouTube channel, you can find

02:09:29.960 an interview I did with an atheist gentleman who had me on his program and wanted to talk to me

02:09:34.380 about Ausatru. So that's what I would say to that particular, that's what I did say to that

02:09:39.860 particular atheist about Ausatru. You know, it really depends what's going to work with them or

02:09:47.320 not. I think that if they're, it depends on the person who's having the conversation. If they

02:09:59.220 genuinely want to know and are open to the possibility of it it's a very different

02:10:04.260 conversation than that if they're just trying to argue with you if they're going into it that

02:10:09.620 they're right and that you're wrong and they're just trying to point counterpoint with you it's

02:10:15.700 very i think you can do that easier with somebody who is a person of faith it's much harder to do

02:10:20.660 do that with an atheist um because i think it's very easy for atheists to deny spiritual experience

02:10:31.600 and i think it's much easier for a person who's experienced spirituality to see that in different

02:10:38.960 contexts or to speak in those terms whereas very often atheists aren't open to accepting or

02:10:46.420 understanding that at all. I think one of the things that I've found

02:10:51.160 more useful with atheists is talking about religion as mankind's default as opposed to

02:11:07.840 the other way around. Atheists always want to put the burden of proof on us as if the default

02:11:14.260 position is no religion and that i need to prove to them that there is a god or gods i need to

02:11:20.660 prove to them that the metaphysical is real i need to prove those things and sometimes it's useful to

02:11:29.380 inform them and demonstrate to them that's not the case

02:11:35.060 religion has been a fundamental to mankind since science has been able to recognize us as such

02:11:42.900 um ceremonial burial and religious practice is a fundamental to cave art to basically any

02:11:52.260 expansion of the human mind and human development in our very long history has been coupled with

02:11:59.780 religiosity and an experience of the metaphysical um

02:12:03.700 um when talking about it in terms of its integral function in mankind since the beginning if

02:12:14.620 they're willing to accept the truth of those things then it makes it a much more productive

02:12:20.380 conversation um it's interesting to me and I don't know if this again it all depends on a

02:12:27.340 person's willingness to have a real discussion. But one of the things I've seen atheists do is

02:12:39.400 recognize how awesome religion is and how much you need religion. And then trying to

02:12:49.780 trying to recreate that in a non-religious context, and at least recognizing that that

02:12:58.360 doesn't work. You know, I have a friend from high school that does that. He sees all of the

02:13:05.980 beautiful, tangible things that religion provides.

02:13:12.740 and you know it's almost like he wants to have a church of atheism we should build cool atheism

02:13:21.080 monuments we should unite around atheism but it misses a fundamental in existence that

02:13:28.000 you don't build lasting things around disbelief in something or around negation of something you

02:13:37.260 build lasting beliefs and lasting tradition around things that you're for, things that you

02:13:44.440 celebrate about worshiping something, not about how much we don't worship something.

02:13:50.900 So you build it in a positive way. You can't build it in a negative way. And I think that's

02:13:58.120 useful. But again, sometimes you have to wait for life to crack that heart open.

02:14:05.180 Sometimes atheists just have to hit a point in their own life where they recognize the spiritual need or where they have an experience they can't put in an atheist context.

02:14:16.820 And when they're open minded, then it's a it's a it can be a very fruitful discussion to have.

02:14:22.800 But it's hard other than that, because especially somebody who identifies as an atheist, they have built their self-identity around the concept of negating faith.

02:14:35.580 And so it's very hard to get one of those people to truly be open in a conversation.

02:14:39.180 um a person would i say a person of faith is easier to have the conversation with absolutely

02:14:49.000 because they're used to talking about spirituality in those terms they understand the concept of

02:14:56.280 belief the concept of the metaphysical shifting from what they are familiar with as far as

02:15:06.080 religion to what we practice is a much easier road than going from no religion to a life based

02:15:14.420 around religion. So that's, that's my, that's my thought on that, but do check out that video if

02:15:20.660 you'd like. I thought it was a really interesting discussion. Will there ever be any Hoffs built

02:15:29.740 overseas like in australia or sweden yes absolutely there will be when that will happen

02:15:35.980 that is the question it's not an if but when in order for that to happen we need to build stable

02:15:42.780 and sizable populations of afa members places one of the hardest things that we experience 0.98

02:15:48.540 internationally is getting people to stick around long enough for it to grow they see the things 1.00

02:15:54.940 that we have in the united states and they want that for their country they look around and don't

02:16:00.380 see it and they give up too easy and that's a really easy thing to do we all do that working

02:16:05.580 in the bar industry and i always see that if it's dead it stays dead once it starts being you know

02:16:11.900 happening then everybody wants to be there it takes those first people to sit down and have a

02:16:17.340 drink and stay put for a while for other people to see that there's people in there and come in

02:16:22.940 and eventually it grows but if you man this place is dead i'm going to go to the next spot

02:16:27.580 it never takes off so we're waiting for those very motivated pioneers in these places to sit

02:16:35.980 down and have a drink for a while and stay there and we can build from that momentum but that's one

02:16:41.580 of the big things that we need is international people that want to actually build a community

02:16:46.380 where they're at instead of expect one to have magically sprouted there before their time

02:16:52.860 and that's way easier said than done i get it but that's what we're waiting on and then once

02:16:58.300 that community is big enough to warrant their own hof and has tested leadership

02:17:06.780 that are able to care for and maintain a hof because it's the challenge isn't anymore getting

02:17:13.340 the hof it's getting the hof and maintaining it and taking care of it making it a thriving

02:17:18.780 institution. Once we have a hof somewhere, we've made a commitment and we can't, you know, whoops,

02:17:24.440 everybody's, you know, everybody's left the area, so we're going to shut the doors. No, once we've 1.00

02:17:29.580 made a hof to one of our gods, we owe it to that god to maintain this as an active temple for them

02:17:34.860 forever. And that means we need a sizable population there to keep it up and running and take care of

02:17:40.680 does the idea of good and evil exists and also true seems like the sagas have some anti-heroes

02:17:52.560 that just do what needs to be done without judgment yes good and evil absolutely exists

02:17:57.840 um the sagas weren't written as religious treatises

02:18:02.220 they're things that we get a glimpse at the religion that the characters in the sagas practice

02:18:09.360 But the sagas weren't written as religious texts. They were written as stories of interesting people and of heroes and of of sometimes outlaws, which are antithetical to our faith system, but are interesting people to tell stories about, which is what a saga is.

02:18:30.260 um but yeah the sagas aren't the sagas give us a glimpse in how alsatru is practiced in the days

02:18:39.700 of the characters in the sagas but the sagas aren't aren't gospels they're not written as

02:18:45.920 religious text there's absolutely good and evil most of the time people find themselves

02:18:53.000 uncomfortable saying that so what we say more often is chaos versus order because it

02:18:58.520 explains the two polarities in a broader context, I'd say.

02:19:07.660 But there's honorable and dishonorable. And I think that's one of the bigger things. There's

02:19:13.480 noble and ignoble. And the comparing and contrasting between two polarities is absolutely

02:19:20.360 something that exists in Ausitru. What some of the confusion is, is that people

02:19:26.340 So I'm searching for the best words to describe this, and I think it's one of the reasons that

02:19:39.800 we use the term Ausatru and not Norse pagan. We define ourselves by being true or loyal to the

02:19:50.460 isere norse pagan in its broadest context means you accept norse cosmology but it doesn't align

02:20:01.900 you with any forces in that that's like if you are a judean monotheist maybe you worship the devil

02:20:12.540 maybe you worship demons maybe you just because you conceive of the world in that mythos doesn't

02:20:20.460 align yourself with a right or a wrong or a person or a direction. If you are a Christian,

02:20:28.100 you've aligned yourself with Christ. You buy that cosmology and that mythos, and amongst that,

02:20:34.340 you are a follower of Christ. If you're a Judean monotheist, maybe you worship the devil. I don't

02:20:40.940 know. In Ausatru, you have aligned yourself with the Eiser. You've aligned yourself with the gods

02:20:47.360 of order versus the forces of chaos. If you're a Norse pagan of some stripe, then it's a term 0.96

02:20:56.800 that really doesn't have a meaning outside of that you accept the broad myth cycle of

02:21:04.200 that cosmology is existing and being relevant. But yeah, by aligning ourselves with the Aesir,

02:21:12.560 we draw a line between noble and honorable and ignoble and dishonorable and you know roughly 0.95

02:21:22.680 that's the difference between good and evil um uh one of my favorite heroes is elsie christianson

02:21:34.520 was she ever influenced by mills writings ali yes yes she was she read on in the

02:21:42.280 1960s she wrote a lot of his works and decided to expand upon that and build a little bit closer to

02:21:49.520 what we consider ossifier today but yes the odinic fellowship was um definitely based on

02:21:56.020 his writings but she felt they might be a little too masonic yeah so um that actually that was one

02:22:05.500 the few people that their lives you know overlapped during a time period that she could look to that

02:22:13.260 like that wow there's another person practicing something similar to what what i think we should

02:22:19.820 be practicing like that's a strange occurrence around that time because they were separated

02:22:23.980 by so much space but she actually had a contemporary in mills that was doing aussitrew and

02:22:32.780 And I think all of the sources that I have say that that was very fundamental in Elsie's spiritual development.

02:22:45.840 Has membership increased, has AFA membership increased since the riots in Europe?

02:22:50.860 No, it hasn't.

02:22:51.900 As a matter of fact, we haven't had a European applicant in a little while.

02:22:55.980 And I'm not quite sure what that is.

02:22:57.740 I don't know if they're super busy over there.

02:22:59.380 I mean, we get applicants all the time, so I can't say whether the riots in Europe have caused those applicants to, you know, make that move to officially join the AFA or not, but nobody has mentioned that as a reason for joining yet.

02:23:20.000 Matt, can you elaborate more on your theory of Hyperborea being the origin of the Aryan tribes? Any sources I can read up on?

02:23:29.360 yes um source wise

02:23:35.600 i mean there's lots of various stuff but it's hard to pick one particular piece that was that was

02:23:43.680 all about it that you can get stuff out of there's little pieces that you get here and there

02:23:48.720 but one that i would recommend is arctic homeland in the vedas

02:23:56.800 by bal tilak i believe and he's an indian gentleman that writes about that and how

02:24:03.760 the imagery used in the vedic literature is it implies geographic things that you don't experience

02:24:14.240 on the indian subcontinent you only experience much further north a lot of that has to do with

02:24:19.600 the changing of seasons with the lengths of winters with with different things that way um

02:24:30.800 one of the the ideas that i heard push forward in is in the original understanding of ganesh

02:24:37.760 that rather than an elephant head he had like a woolly mammoth head and i think that's just always

02:24:43.440 been kind of fascinating to me um i don't hang my my hat on that theory wise i just think it's

02:24:50.000 interesting um yeah you see a lot of our symbolism just seems geared and oriented that way a lot of

02:25:02.240 what we see archaeologically as migration patterns tend to come out of the north out of you know

02:25:08.960 as if glaciation pushed people out of an area further north down into other things,

02:25:16.500 down into other places. You see that with the commonality between Aryan tribal expansion

02:25:25.200 and old Europe populations and the similarity that they're clearly the same race of people

02:25:32.500 divergent at a very early time whereas you don't see that in other more southern populations of

02:25:40.020 people um but again i'm not pushing that too hard as dogma i just think that the things tend to

02:25:50.100 suggest that when we look at deeper in our lore and our archaeology and our history

02:25:55.620 and so that's you know i am most convinced that that is where our people come from

02:26:02.500 um but yeah check out arctic homeland in the vettas by until act

02:26:10.000 do you know of anyone in the modern era who has suffered more because of their belief in

02:26:19.260 folkish house to true than alexander red mills it's an interesting question that makes me stop

02:26:26.680 and think. No, I don't. I say that with kind of an asterisk. I'm still going to say no,

02:26:55.900 But there are some people who their exes have used Alcetru as a reason to deny them visitation and time with their children.

02:27:14.000 And I think that hits in a different way than what Mills experienced.

02:27:19.740 and i don't know of any real specific case of that where that's been the deciding factor

02:27:27.240 in a way that's you know completely robbed someone of their rights to interact with their

02:27:32.280 children but that's kind of one area that hits very different that he wasn't exposed to but no

02:27:41.620 i don't think anybody has suffered the level of

02:27:44.700 you know people have gotten over their their doxing and other things much quicker

02:27:51.880 than he got out of his um internment camp i i don't think there's anybody in modern times who's

02:27:58.400 who's suffered more for our faith than alexander webman's uh thoughts on wicca and other new agey

02:28:06.140 pagan practices do you think it's valid and can it have crossover with ausitru what are your

02:28:12.680 thoughts on that, Allie? Strong. I do not like Wicca. I do not suggest to anybody. I suggest

02:28:20.640 against it. It was basically created by a sexual pervert, someone that we would not allow into the 0.99

02:28:28.380 AFA if he were to apply. So that gives you kind of the basis of where it's centered and why it's 0.91

02:28:37.540 bad um to answer anything about crossover yes a little bit we do have saved practice and some of

02:28:45.400 that stuff was taken and put into wicca and the new agey magic stuff magic with a k and all that

02:28:52.520 um there is some crossover there and i think if you're familiar with wicca

02:28:57.020 when you actually learn saved work you're gonna learn that a lot of the stuff you were taught is

02:29:02.020 somewhat correct. You're halfway there. But no, I would warn against Wicca for everybody.

02:29:10.220 Yeah, I... 1.00

02:29:15.520 No, but I think that the points of commonality have deeper roots than that. I think that Wicca is...

02:29:26.520 is, first, I don't think that its roots are particularly legitimate. The eclecticism kind

02:29:39.620 of ruins the good that could be taken of any of the sources they draw their eclecticism from.

02:29:48.120 The lacking of any cultural context to understand the little things that they draw from

02:29:55.680 just makes it all hokey. But the same sources that they draw from are very often valid and

02:30:04.840 good things. A lot of the Western ceremonial magic that they draw from does have overlap in

02:30:14.020 how people practice various things and does have application when we look into Ausatru.

02:30:20.560 but that doesn't come from wicca they just both kind of come from similar pre-dating sources

02:30:27.680 wicca itself is hokey and extremely degenerate and i understand that people you know find what

02:30:36.960 they find first and and i get that i don't fault anyone for exploring that but um no i think wicca 0.99

02:30:45.600 wicca's all bad it's very disingenuous he just flitted through the entire world you can't 0.67

02:30:52.640 mishmash our stuff with ancient egypt you just can't no it's it yeah it's yeah wicca is very 0.88

02:31:00.960 juvenile um mary asks uh while on subject to video games is there one on our people versus

02:31:11.760 the romans um yeah absolutely you could do that in a lot of different games um i think

02:31:19.600 lou over on the side mentioned rome total war you don't have to play as the romans you can play as

02:31:25.120 any number of celtic germanic and slavic tribes and war against the romans i'm sure there's probably

02:31:33.280 plenty that have similar themes but that's the one that i can think of off the top of my head

02:31:38.880 uh the next question

02:31:42.080 is there a way to get rid of demons or evil spirits that may reside in one's house in

02:31:51.360 yeah absolutely um

02:31:55.560 i think there are lots of ways to do that um

02:32:03.120 I think the best way, if it is a real bad situation, is to have one of our go-thar come and do that and be involved in that process.

02:32:15.120 There is a number of different rituals that can happen, but it's really hard to go into the detail on them without a lot of specifics.

02:32:30.120 specifics. And I think a lot of things have to do with the spiritual might of the people who are in

02:32:36.120 the house and the people performing the ritual and things that way. It's really complex and it's a

02:32:45.840 pretty deep theological thing to just discuss on the random. So it's hard to give the answers that

02:32:55.240 i think are really necessary because they they really depend on the specifics but yes there's

02:33:00.760 absolutely ways to chase bad things out of your house um and i think like i said the

02:33:09.320 best thing to do is to get one of our gothar involved in that um can you talk about loki

02:33:19.640 finrir and uh the jotuns and how each of these entities can manifest themselves

02:33:27.480 in our lives and in our world how can one tell these forces apart and how can we

02:33:34.760 protect ourselves from chaotic forces

02:33:40.280 so

02:33:40.440 So I think that, again, context is everything on how to recognize these things in the world.

02:33:55.840 I think you see it very often, the most clearly, obviously, with people who identify with those forces.

02:34:04.360 It's really easy, and it smacks you in the face, perhaps literally, if somebody comes up and is a

02:34:09.980 Lockean. Oh, okay. And you can conceptualize that very easily. Other ways you can see that and pick

02:34:18.960 up on that is when you see our folk acting in ways that are based around the baser instincts

02:34:27.800 of their character as opposed to based around nobility. When you see people, and this is a

02:34:39.540 tendency within our folk, and I think that this is a place you can really see it, is when there's

02:34:46.000 some folks that no matter what situation they're in, they have to be divisive and disruptive.

02:34:53.160 no matter what group they're part of they've got to try to tear it down or cause a problem

02:34:59.400 or cause a split or cause a rift and i think it is a particularly prevalent problem that we see

02:35:06.120 in our folk and in the circles that likely most people in the afa and most people in our

02:35:12.040 chat audience are involved in you've got people that nothing is good enough in their head they

02:35:18.920 They have this idea of how their perfect version of things should be, and they will find every

02:35:25.420 possible reason why everything everyone else is doing is wrong or can't work or shouldn't

02:35:30.820 work or isn't the right way to do it, and they perpetuate the crab in the bucket mentality.

02:35:37.840 I think that's the biggest thing about the forces of chaos that you recognize is when

02:35:44.840 you see a tendency of people who every time something is going right for us, they try to

02:35:51.100 pull it down. Whatever us might be in that occasion, whenever something good's happening,

02:35:56.520 there's a group of negative people that just want to be negative Nancy about it and try to pull it

02:36:01.820 down. That's how I think you see those forces manifesting around us. The best defense against

02:36:10.840 that and i think that it is i think it may not be the answer that some folks are looking for

02:36:24.760 i think people want some kind of you know hoodoo they want some kind of like spell that you can do

02:36:32.200 or some talisman you can wear or some chant you can do that that chases that away realistically

02:36:40.840 What you do is you build your hymenia and you build your luck literally through consistent acts of nobility in your life, through living your life with nobility and dignity on how you do things.

02:36:55.240 You guard yourself against a lot of stuff.

02:36:58.220 You build your spiritual armor and you're much better able to withstand the snipings of chaotic forces, be them human or metaphysical, and carry on with what you're doing. 0.85

02:37:16.200 And also, you're able to combat them best when you build and you have a strong relationship with our gods through consistent bloat, consistent altar work, consistent and enthusiastic interaction with the Astru Folk Assembly.

02:37:33.900 You build a relationship with our gods. 0.94

02:37:36.760 A powerful relationship with our gods is by far the best thing I can recommend to steer your life in the right direction and to protect you from forces of chaos.

02:37:51.420 um meditation is generally seen as an eastern thing but does it have a place

02:38:02.760 in ausitru and is there an austro or is there an austro equivalent of course there is

02:38:07.740 um

02:38:08.880 I think that

02:38:12.000 you can call concepts lots of different things

02:38:20.280 I think a lot of the meditation that you see in the East comes through Aryan migration and is an Aryan thing.

02:38:31.560 I think when you see now, obviously, it evolves as as it goes from a Vedic culture to a more what we consider a modern Hindu culture and then into Buddhism and other things.

02:38:46.300 but um buddha himself was an aryan he was an aryan prince his meditation was a high caste

02:38:59.880 indian thing at a time where they were still very closely aligned with their aryan roots

02:39:06.800 and i think it's absolutely aryan and it's in its history um but i think that we we think of

02:39:13.680 many different things when we talk about meditation. And I don't think maybe you do

02:39:19.080 meditation and Ausatry the same way you would in a different context. But I think that, you know,

02:39:26.900 the similarities are close enough to say, yeah, sure, you can meditate and Ausatry the same way.

02:39:31.660 I think what a lot of folks, myself specifically, as opposed to doing

02:39:39.340 um sanskrit mantras i like to do runic galder for my meditation

02:39:47.260 um but i think it's fundamentally very similar one thing that i think is

02:39:55.480 really important in a western context context as opposed to an eastern context

02:40:03.680 one of the biggest things that separates us is

02:40:08.880 will or not and embracing life or not we're not meditating to transcend or escape life

02:40:20.320 we're not meditating to merge with oneness or with nothingness we are meditating to

02:40:30.560 empower our luck to empower our hymenia to affect a situation to build a closer relationship with

02:40:37.680 our gods to make ourselves mentally stronger or better prepared for a conflict but our meditation

02:40:46.160 is focused towards doing and achieving as opposed to towards renouncing and letting go if that makes

02:40:54.800 sense and again you can meditate for a number of reasons so that's that's not as black as

02:41:01.920 and white as i said it but i think those themes are what really separate the two practices

02:41:14.000 matt a person accused the afa of being socialist uh told them i could not speak for the afa as

02:41:19.680 i'm not a leader however the afa is not communist or socialist and did not support those ideologies

02:41:28.000 um yeah they'd have to be specific on what they mean um

02:41:37.440 those are also words that are just political buzzwords that set people off no we're not

02:41:46.560 communist communist mean a certain thing are there socialist elements in the sense that we want to

02:41:52.240 take care of our own absolutely i think every faith has that in the idea that we want to you

02:41:58.240 know provide things to take care of our elderly to take care of our community to have our folk

02:42:04.080 services program those things are all i guess technically socialist things are our governing

02:42:11.680 structure of the afa is not socialist at all but our concern for the well-being of our folk absolutely

02:42:20.320 is um but again those are those con those things require context to have meaning we absolutely

02:42:32.080 have socialist elements to the afa amongst our folk and our people but when you compare it to

02:42:39.120 to the United States as a whole, the AFA and AFA members tend to be anti-socialist policies

02:42:48.020 because they don't help our people. They disproportionately help other groups of people

02:42:53.880 and not our folk. So, I mean, when you ask why people have an issue with socialism,

02:42:58.880 if it's an issue of economics, religions and churches have always served that element. And

02:43:06.280 that's the fact that they do. And the fact that religions fundamentally provide charity is the

02:43:12.720 reason that they're granted a tax exemption is because on a very fundamental level, even in

02:43:19.740 America, the home of capitalism, churches were always the social safety net to care for the

02:43:25.780 elderly, to care for the poor, to care for providing for folks that are on hard times.

02:43:31.800 so i'm i mean it depends what your friends say when when they ask that but i think it's

02:43:36.360 i think it's kind of a false proposition um matt are you familiar with the ancient civilization

02:43:45.960 theory of randall carlson and graham hancock they believe 13 000 years ago uh meteors raised

02:43:52.840 levels oc levels and flooded a semi-advanced civilization yes i am with graham hancock yes

02:44:02.440 with the other gentlemen no i'm not very i think this is the first time i can think of hearing his

02:44:07.960 name but graham hancock absolutely um i think that's fascinating i don't know what to make of it

02:44:14.840 um i think prehistoric civilization and prehistoric

02:44:23.080 discovering of the americas is fascinating i i got hooked on the graham hancock thing and i

02:44:30.200 downloaded every one of his books that's on audible and i just went through like

02:44:34.280 back to back to back over a period of time listening to him while i was driving was in

02:44:38.600 the gym or whatever else and uh no i absolutely love it i think it's fascinating i think it's

02:44:44.600 hard to draw specific conclusions i think graham hancock because he doesn't share my world view

02:44:53.480 draws some different conclusions about races and origins of some of these early civilizations of

02:45:00.840 folks but i really find that fascinating and like i say i i eat that stuff up um ali what are your

02:45:08.040 thoughts? Are you familiar with either of the two gentlemen or their theories about ancient

02:45:11.680 civilizations? I am. I find it very fascinating. I don't know where I stand on it because it's just

02:45:18.040 a little too outside of my base knowledge, but I definitely find it very, very fascinating.

02:45:24.400 Like I mentioned earlier, when I was talking about my favorite books,

02:45:27.380 Forbidden Archaeology is one of my favorite books. I love that sort of thing that just that

02:45:32.400 idea that there could have been something before us. And I mean, we know that our myths work and

02:45:37.520 in cycles, why not the rest of the world?

02:45:44.060 So, and that's the thing with so many of this, and even, you know, Graham Hancock,

02:45:49.920 I'm not sure about the other gentleman, but he doesn't,

02:45:54.800 yes, I agree with him as far as there is absolutely something. There were absolutely

02:45:59.480 ancient civilizations that did stuff that is outside of the timeline accepted by modern

02:46:06.620 scholarship that happened that's a thing so i believe that's absolutely fact what that means

02:46:13.660 what that implies the nature of that civilization is harder to say whatever that was did these

02:46:23.020 different places in the earth around that time have content at contact to a much greater degree

02:46:29.100 than currently accepted theories say they do yes absolutely that's true what that means i don't

02:46:35.980 know other than they absolutely had contact um so there's some things that i absolutely do buy

02:46:43.180 into for sure it's just the the bigger um the bigger what it all means but it's fascinating

02:46:49.580 and i really am very eager to learn all i can about that the more of that that's discovered

02:46:54.220 uh from nick i know we speak on community and coming home so often i see so many stubborn his

02:47:08.340 uh my words nick's words uh people out there that keep thinking that what they're doing is good

02:47:15.420 enough and that they don't have the time work too much focus on their family that there's no one

02:47:21.660 nearby that they don't have to join. They don't see why solitary practice or just focusing on

02:47:28.060 the two people they know and not focusing on something bigger or something that can actually

02:47:32.220 do something, accomplish, build something. Everyone loves a one-liner or a quotable quote.

02:47:39.580 Give us something apt about all that for

02:47:43.300 for Sarah's wisdom of the Ulterior Goethe posts. I can't do that, Nick.

02:47:51.660 i'm not a trained monkey i can't create quotes for you um i really can't when i'm on the spot i wish

02:47:58.700 i could um i think that i've probably had a decent quotation on that time you know a time or two

02:48:07.180 hopefully folks can find those or if i've said one that was worthwhile awesome i hope

02:48:14.060 but that is really important and i wish those people would get it together um

02:48:21.660 there is a self-centeredness in the world that so many of us have grown up in and that we're

02:48:28.060 surrounded by. And it's a deep conditioning that's very, very hard to break. Most of us

02:48:35.560 in this day and age didn't grow up in a tight knit religious community. Some did, but I think

02:48:42.900 most of us didn't. It certainly wasn't the norm in my day. And I know a lot of people listening

02:48:50.960 or you know 20 years younger than myself um especially in and i assume most people are

02:49:01.200 listening to this in the west if we have some eastern europeans they may see this very differently

02:49:06.880 and they may have very different phenomenon um but i think when we live in very diverse places

02:49:16.640 diversity is directly dis you know it's directly um

02:49:24.880 negate negatively correlated with uh patriotism or nationalism or group cohesion the more diverse

02:49:34.000 something is the less connected it is to the things that everyone has in common because

02:49:41.200 everyone doesn't have those things in common we get to a point with diversity where what you have

02:49:46.960 in common is physical location um but nothing else and that could be you know racial diversity

02:49:55.840 it could be religious diversity it could be a lot of things but it's all of those things

02:50:02.800 in the west today and that makes it hard so we have people that grew up they didn't necessarily

02:50:08.720 grow up in a neighborhood where they knew everybody everybody knew everybody's parents

02:50:13.440 kids played in the street we don't see that very often anymore um most likely they weren't raised

02:50:20.160 in a church where once a week at least if not several times a week you have a faith community

02:50:25.920 of people who share your beliefs who share your religion who share your worldview so they're just

02:50:31.600 out for them and their family and that's good enough and they try to squeak by with whatever

02:50:36.800 you know pays the bills and that's just good enough people don't dream anymore or think

02:50:41.920 towards the future and um that said something else that we've at least in america this is a huge

02:50:50.880 thing and i'm sure it displays itself a little bit different in different parts of the world but

02:50:57.360 But we used to pride ourselves on our, you know, ingenuity and our individual empowerment to take action and seize our dreams and do things in America.

02:51:11.720 We don't have that anymore.

02:51:14.240 We always, you know, for various reasons, society has taught us that you don't do that.

02:51:20.220 Somebody else does that.

02:51:21.640 And then you follow along.

02:51:23.500 So I think people wait until they have nice things that someone else has created for them,

02:51:28.920 and then they get to celebrate the nice things without any of the cost or any of the difficulty

02:51:33.760 in building them. I think that's what we see with a lot of folks that don't want to join.

02:51:38.780 They would join if we had a thriving AFA community in their area, but people are too far away. So

02:51:44.540 rather than building the AFA in their area and make it happen, they're going to wait around until

02:51:49.100 somebody else does it for them and then they can join and be part of it um something else i say to

02:51:55.340 the the argument that uh they work too much uh they can't go to things uh but the family

02:52:01.260 your life shouldn't conflict with your religion you should structure your life to where

02:52:07.020 all the aspects of your life work together um you know i can see if you have a particular career

02:52:14.380 that makes it challenging. But if you don't, if you just have a job, get a job that allows you to

02:52:21.660 attend the things at the Hoff or attend moots or do things with your family and do things with your

02:52:27.920 church. Structure your life around it if it's important to you. If the AFA is important to you,

02:52:36.140 you should never, I got, I got to spend too much time with my family. No, your family should,

02:52:40.440 needs to be involved in your religion. You're doing it wrong if you have to choose between 1.00

02:52:46.360 doing religious things or doing family things. The two should be one and the same.

02:52:52.900 You can choose how you want to structure your life, but what it comes down to with all of those

02:52:56.940 people is it's just not that important to them. And that boils down to what I've talked about

02:53:02.320 all night is the idea of piety and how we need to be, have a genuine and real faith in our God.

02:53:10.440 to evaluate our life in terms of is what i'm doing making our gods proud i don't think people

02:53:18.140 who answer you know who say any of the arguments that you threw out there nick i don't think that

02:53:22.180 any of those people conceive of the world in that way and if they do i certainly don't think they're

02:53:26.840 being honest with themselves if they ask what the gods would think of the choices that they've made

02:53:31.520 will there be another episode with stephen mcnellen that's up to steve he's welcome on

02:53:39.040 show anytime you'd like to be here um we'd certainly love to have him on again uh it was

02:53:45.040 really nice episode last time so you know i know he's got a lot of things going on but you know

02:53:50.320 like i said i'd be glad to have him back on whenever he'd like to be on

02:53:55.440 uh ali what's next in nebraska and what's next for the awesome clausens um our next event i guess if

02:54:04.560 we want to take that route um our next event is going to be sicker bloat we're we're doing that

02:54:09.920 in uh collaboration with travis bodish and nick salo from colorado it's going to be out in scott's

02:54:16.080 bluff it's going to be incredible we're going to do voton on the peaks on the top of the bluff

02:54:20.720 we're going to do an ancestor dedication on part of the oregon trail which was so important to so

02:54:26.160 many of our ancestors um and then after that we're branching out we are leaving nebraska for a little

02:54:34.320 bit we're doing uh kansas city moot and we're doing one in wichita so everybody else look out

02:54:45.200 that's exciting it's really nice to see some activity in that part of the country

02:54:48.960 there was there was a big lack of it for a long time

02:54:53.760 um matt and ally have you seen or are you or are a fan of

02:55:01.120 of Robert Seffer the world's most dangerous anthropologist I have no idea what you're

02:55:11.920 talking about but I am intrigued and when we get off this show I'll absolutely look him up

02:55:16.540 what are your thoughts Allie I've never heard of them but I will be doing the same

02:55:21.040 yeah that's I'm really curious what uh where that particular rabbit hole leads

02:55:25.900 The last question I got tonight, is Reno slash Fernley a good place to live and to be able to visit the California AFA site? Yes, it's awesome. I love it here. I love it here. I love it here.

02:55:43.880 if i was going to continue to live as

02:55:51.320 as just one household among the masses there's no place i'd rather do it uh you know i'm excited

02:55:58.680 to move to tennessee for segerheim because i'm going to be part of building an afa community there

02:56:05.320 um i'm going to be part of of living in that community and that makes all the difference

02:56:11.720 but as far as you know just a place for you and your family to live reno is wonderful i can't say

02:56:18.440 enough good about it fernley puts you you know a little bit further out there um but it depends on

02:56:26.520 how close you want to be if you're in reno you're about two and a half hours from the hof from

02:56:31.560 odenshoff if you're in fernley you're probably you know three and a half three and a quarter

02:56:38.760 um but it's still something very doable once a month uh but yeah no i love it here i can't say

02:56:45.620 enough good about it it's a great place to it's a great place to live it's a great place to be

02:56:49.460 uh the climate is really nice you get um maybe not infernally as much but in reno you get

02:56:56.080 you're right by the mountains or you're right by the sierras you get you get snow but not so much

02:57:03.420 snow it's obnoxious and you have to shovel it but you got snow frequently throughout the winter it

02:57:07.580 gets nice and cold in the summer. It gets nice and hot, but it stays dry and isn't humid. So yeah,

02:57:13.260 it's a great place to be. Oh, looks like a couple more questions came in.

02:57:24.240 So I lied. That was not our last question. Speaking of Nick Salo, Matt, could you please

02:57:31.260 let everyone know that there is a fundraiser to help the Salos with medical bills? Yeah,

02:57:37.260 absolutely and uh nick if you could throw the link up there this i couldn't even get it out

02:57:43.820 of my mouth before he had it up there uh yeah if you guys want to want to donate and help them out

02:57:49.260 nick salo is a folk builder for the afa out of colorado uh he has been part of a huge resurgence

02:57:58.380 of membership or i guess not resurgence we've never had a great deal of membership there so a

02:58:03.740 huge surge in membership in colorado in that area he's been doing great things for us he's

02:58:10.300 had a lot of responsibilities with him and his family and he's currently going through some

02:58:13.740 health problems and the family could really use your help like i say he's you know supporting a

02:58:18.940 lot of people and money's always a challenge so if you guys find yourself a little bit of extra

02:58:24.700 and you want to help him out there is a link to do so and do make sure that you're saying prayers

02:58:30.700 for for his recovery if uh absolutely let people know that they don't necessarily know about um the

02:58:38.100 afa specifically ran by our ladies we have a prayer group for people who are struggling with

02:58:43.500 health stuff called the circle of air and that's something that's very active i don't think we talk

02:58:49.500 about it enough but if you if you have folks or you yourself are dealing with health problems

02:58:55.300 Please reach out to our Githias or any of your folk builders.

02:59:00.020 They can pass you that direction.

02:59:02.740 But it is something that, you know, I think has had a real positive effect on the health of our members.

02:59:07.720 And it's a nice thing to do, a nice thing to be a part of.

02:59:12.080 And then perhaps the real last question.

02:59:16.220 Matt and Allie, thoughts on Jared Taylor and the American Renaissance?

02:59:21.340 Allie, do you have thoughts on Jared Taylor and American Renaissance?

02:59:25.300 not really i stay out of all of that sort of thing now um i had my my time in the

02:59:31.940 political deal there and i'm just i'm over it um in broad strokes i like him i like

02:59:41.380 that group that conference that sphere um

02:59:46.500 um yeah I've got I don't have a lot of specific views on that other than I like it in general I

02:59:57.000 like some of the aesthetic I like some of the tone um I wish more people involved in that

03:00:08.460 would focus on things that they can do as opposed to either ethereal things that don't really affect

03:00:17.340 the real world in any way or things that maybe somebody out there somewhere should do but

03:00:22.940 they're not doing um i think it's very easy to spend all of our time railing against big picture

03:00:29.180 things that we can't access and it would be really nice to see more of an emphasis put on

03:00:35.580 on things that we do have access to fix and make better. And it'd be nice if a lot of the folks

03:00:44.400 that put energy towards things like that could put their energy in a way that was going to be

03:00:50.340 productive towards their goals for their family, for their children, for their future.

03:00:57.900 Finding ways for those things to be accessible is always the big challenge. And I think we got a lot

03:01:03.240 a lot of thinkers out there, it would be nice to have some doers on building community, on

03:01:09.900 building things that help their family. And I'd like to see more of that from that particular

03:01:14.960 crowd. And that's it for tonight. Thank you guys so much for the great questions. When I asked for

03:01:22.680 more questions, I got two hours worth of more questions. I appreciated that. It was great to

03:01:29.480 you on ally you thank you alexander redmills was awesome i think it was well researched and people

03:01:36.440 learned a lot of stuff they didn't know um yeah thank you so much for coming on yeah thank you

03:01:42.120 for having me it was it's really great like i said at the start you know it's really nice to help wrap

03:01:46.520 up the first year because it really did bring us home so awesome well i love hearing that um

03:01:52.440 if you guys are out there and you're listening you like what we do you like what we're where

03:01:56.120 we're coming from i would encourage you guys to go to runestone.org and join the afa be part of

03:02:03.400 it be part of making this happen we need all the folks we can get to help build the future that we

03:02:08.840 want so till next week hail the gods hail the folk hail the afa and remember victory never sleeps

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Asatru Folk Assembly - July 06, 2023

7⧸5⧸23 Victory Never Sleeps, Episode 52 - Alexander Rud Mills

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