00:03:00.000Hello. Welcome to this week's edition of Victory Never Sleeps.
00:03:13.000First off, thank you guys for everyone who joined us last weekend or last week.
00:03:19.120Last week, we had a epically long show dealing with AFA history.
00:03:23.780We had a lot of different guests that have been an important part of bringing us this far and who are an important part of moving us forward into the future.
00:12:49.520they generally did it in a single style
00:12:52.100to switch a style in the middle was mentally jarring or if they had learned a specific style
00:13:01.140of poetry they might not know other types and ways of memorization so by the time it was written down
00:13:10.340though it's compiled all together and there is still an effort to make sense of it all it wasn't
00:13:16.820just a big collage or mishmash but um as time goes on after people are looking at the poems
00:13:25.060scholars are looking at the poems and going oh well this is clearly written in a different style
00:13:29.540or has a different uh purpose or in in these cases we have sigurd talking to fafnir and slaying
00:13:40.660Regen. And then we now have the shift of Sigurd speaking to Brunhild. And so that's where we get
00:13:52.100kind of these, the names are then, okay, so we're going to call this Sigdreva Maul. And this is the
00:13:59.520part of that. But in the actual body of lore, it's unbroken. It just keeps going. And I think
00:14:07.700that is, again, indicative of their desire to just get it down onto paper and kind of sort out
00:14:16.240the details later in a lot of the ways. Because again, oral traditions are based off of lifespan.
00:14:23.840They're uniquely connected to our people. But I think that's another reason why it's very
00:14:30.540important for us to understand the ways of writing things down, but not letting them be
00:14:36.700taking on some of the negative traits that we can see in other religions about how
00:14:44.520their semi-historical treaties of things and clear editings, we are up front saying, yes,
00:14:55.180this is edited, this is collected, this is brought about, but with the purpose of containing a
00:15:00.680tradition of poetry. And inside each one of these poems, you have these little tiny glimpses of the
00:15:08.020faith that we were separated from. And in this one in particular, there's a big one. The recitation
00:15:18.520and prayer of thankfulness is clear as day. And some people would argue this is the only
00:15:29.120evidence of prayer in the Germanic Aryan sense. I think that it's because they're looking at
00:15:42.280prayer from a more Middle Eastern lens. But one of the big things I think for us is proclamational
00:15:51.120speech and giving worship and oftentimes through third party. So sometimes it's also about what is
00:16:00.680said and what is not said. But the ultimate point is that it's done through deeds, physically done.
00:16:06.400And this has one of the big ones. So much so, I know that most everybody here might have heard the food prayer that law speaker Alan Turnage formulated.
00:16:22.160And I love this food prayer. It's helped me with my children to build a sense of unilateral existence with the divine, with our ancestors, with the food that we are eating and all of these things.
00:16:40.180But there is another food prayer that has been making its way more, I think, slowly, but more meaningfully throughout the House of True Folk Assembly, and that is one of Witten Daniel Young.
00:16:56.600And he specifically pulls from this poem. And it's not word for word, but it is certainly very paralleled to it. And there's good reason, because it shows a great sense of thankfulness, piety.
00:17:15.820And also, again, and when we get there, I'll talk about this, something unique that's not said that I think is very, very important, the understanding of the Germanic-Aryan framework of faith.
00:17:33.500yeah, but it's, yes, it's disjointed. It's short, but I don't doubt that's going to have any effect
00:17:42.860on us and our ability to talk about it. So, all right. So guys, before we get started,
00:17:49.360Alex donated $25 towards Frazehoff. Thank you very much for that. It's always very much
00:17:56.660appreciated. And you guys have been amazingly generous and we're very thankful for that.
00:18:03.500swan whenever you are ready if you would like to take us into tonight's text okay so this starts
00:18:10.680off with sigur um or sigur and he is making his way to uh the land of the franks where the
00:18:22.580um plateau or the the mountaintop the the flattened mountaintop
00:18:30.260crested in fire where he will soon find the inhabitants.
00:19:15.460Then he saw that it was not a man, but a woman.
00:19:18.620the mail coat was as fast as if it had grown to the flesh he then cut the mail coat from the head
00:19:28.860opening downward and out of both sides of the armholes then he took the mail coat from her
00:19:36.180and she awoke and sat up and saw Sigurd and said
00:19:41.760what bit through my bernie and bear in mind a bernie is a chain mail or an armor uh top
00:19:53.400usually short sleeved and going to the knees um if anybody has sometimes they're called hauberks
00:20:00.700or just simply chain mail shirts um but i want to say that for can get that confusion out of the
00:20:08.460She says, what bit through the barney? How was broken my sleep? Who made me free of the fetters pale? And for a lot of folks that might not know, the word fetters are bindings, manacles, ropes to tie, anything that locks someone down.
00:20:33.280That's why they call Lord Odin the Freer of Fetters.
00:23:40.700Long did I sleep. My slumber was long. And long are the griefs of life. Oathen decreed that I could not break the heavy spells of sleep.
00:23:56.540so the reason why this is again most people may have only heard of hail the day hail the
00:24:05.020sons of day um but this is i think a very powerful point i don't know uh nick do you
00:24:14.460did you get that food prayer um from witten young
00:24:19.440i was just wondering if you had any ability to put it up there just so that people can
00:24:27.620oh it is okay sorry i'm i'm on a different screen um the parallels are are are beautiful
00:24:37.440but there's some points to this too that i was thinking about um in lieu of the show tonight
00:24:45.360um kind of just simply because i'm familiar with it uh the the actual verses um one of the things
00:24:58.260that i i truly noticed was the difference between um there there's not a sense of prostration
00:25:09.480That there is not a sense between the believer, the pious, the one that has been punished by the divine
00:25:21.100There is not a sense of malice or a return
00:25:25.220It was a failing, she understood it was a failing upon her
00:25:31.260She understood that she was now in the processes of Lord Odin's machinations
00:25:39.300beyond even her own comprehension it wasn't necessarily you know trust in the plan but no
00:25:48.040the actual the fact that she was awoken immediately made her understand that lord
00:25:55.760ovin was doing something because even he would know that one day he that that she would be awoken
00:26:04.080by someone and so she's she doesn't hold this ounce of of vengeance or anger towards lord odin
00:26:14.520but instead gives thanks to be once again a part of weird because to be held stagnant to be placed
00:26:24.300in torpor to have a miasma of inactivity is worse than damnation is worse than death
00:26:35.580to be obliterated from the movement of the world and so as soon as she sees the daylight as soon
00:26:43.020as she stands up she gives thanks and then she suddenly realizes why lord othen put her to sleep
00:26:54.300And she states what happens. He puts her to sleep in heavy spell, but she doesn't scream out in anger or vengeance, which you find a lot today in modern media and in modern storytelling, where there is this kind of sense of I'm just as important.
00:27:19.600When all divine is dead in our modern day, that makes everyone as important as everyone else.
00:27:31.280And so there's this sense that, you know, being wronged without the realization that there is like an ecosystem of all things going on.
00:27:43.060And I think it's just very, this is, maybe I'm reading a little bit too deep into this, but that's kind of what I do. Or, you know, that's kind of what I want other people to see and I want to encourage people to do.
00:27:58.600Because there are things that are being said even in that which is silent. And so she now knows she is back in the web. She is back into the water of weird.
00:28:14.760Now, of course, we know the story because we covered it. And I know everybody watched that episode. You better know that, you know, the tumultuous relationship between her and Sigurd and Sigurd's wife.
00:28:31.300So she is not brought forth out of her slumber into a world where everything is good and the redemption is possible.
00:28:42.660no she is an instrument in a conflict and then she embraces that conflict towards the end and
00:28:50.480becomes absolutely a part of the the fury the the waging of war the um the violence of it
00:29:01.480and so i'd like to before we venture too far i'd like to um i don't know say a couple of things
00:29:12.540a little bit more about the the prayer this is in an earlier stage of modern
00:29:22.860also true when there was a lot of like shoulder pelts and chest thumping there
00:29:27.720was some kind of idea that there wasn't prayer or something and this was like
00:29:34.980the example of prayer for our ancestors well it's common sense that any pious
00:29:40.020people pray. Anyone who has a sincere faith in deity approaches them in speech. This is an
00:29:49.340example of thanksgiving, as well as asking for, you know, a variety of things. But it's also
00:30:00.480spawned a practice in modern house true that a lot of people do, where they greet the day. This
00:30:07.560is a lot of times people will recite this prayer when they wake up in the morning um some folks
00:30:14.600will you know go outside and look towards the sunrise and you know hold their arms up in the
00:30:21.320alvis pose and and recite this uh our founder and his wife do that every morning and they are of a
00:30:29.960generation where they are the folks that like to get up at the crack of dawn so they they do that
00:30:36.200But it's a, I don't know, it's a small glimpse of overt piety that a lot of our detractors or people who just don't know any better may not realize is there and is a thing that was ever present to our ancestors.
00:30:59.060One of the things that is, I think, very meaningful about the Volsunga Cycle is that it has dignified noble people.
00:31:13.700There is plenty of, you know, he is the feeder of ravens and he, you know, there's plenty of slaughter and battlefield heroics and glory and slaughter and things that one would expect of this.
00:31:32.300but there's also a nobility and a dignity, a piety, a politeness that I don't think people might
00:31:41.500be familiar with or expect is there. And that was always very important to our ancestors. Don't be
00:31:47.520misled into the idea of, you know, Northern barbarism. That's not the case. The nobility
00:31:54.840and the dignified behavior when dealing with, you know, when dealing with monarchs, when dealing
00:32:00.140with ladies um being having a politeness and an adherence to protocol and to custom was very
00:32:11.420important to our ancestors it's very important to us today being dignified and noble is at the
00:32:17.820very essence of the ideal of our folk as you know this this epic is very much
00:32:24.700like that heroic ideal writ large in the form of cigarette so keep that in mind also just stuff
00:32:37.740names matter um cigarette means the the bringer of victory and that's you know certainly a fitting
00:32:47.500name for for a valkyrie it's also you know just something to something to realize because the
00:32:54.060names matter in these things i think pertinent is something that you told me a long time ago
00:33:01.740um that christianity did not formulate the night of europe it was the european
00:33:12.620that gave christianity the night and that's because those values existed before and ever
00:33:20.700since you told me that that that that haunted me in a poetic way because looking now at pre-christian um
00:33:32.460groups uh these the young vikingers the varangians or what have you many different types of of
00:33:39.580honor bound and codes but yeah they were not present in when the when it was the judahites
00:33:49.420in the Middle East. They were not present even when the Judahites came to Greece and converted
00:33:54.780the Grecos and eventually the Romans. It wasn't until the Germanics that Christianity received
00:34:03.180the night. And I think a lot of people somehow lose head of that. And the other thing I wanted
00:34:12.780to say was in the comments I saw, and I just want to speak to a witch master, and this is not
00:34:18.240particularly an attack, but don't be so bold to say that Lord Odin is in some slumber and cannot
00:34:26.080materialize in the middle world. I would not be so swift to claim to know the extent of the powers
00:34:35.680of the gods in that way. And I would encourage you to consider perhaps the miasma, the sleep
00:34:44.540is ours and not his um and that our waking up is one of that is to be deserved um just simply
00:34:56.240because there was a comment made that um that uh lord odin cannot break he or he says odin cannot
00:35:04.280break the heavy spells of sleep because he is still in the dream realm and not yet materialized
00:35:10.820you're on Midgard, but Odin can be evoked, not invoked. And I understand what you're saying on
00:35:19.920that latter half, but that front half, I really do believe that the slumber is upon us, and that
00:35:30.060those deserving of waking are the ones who will attain, but it requires great effort, and more
00:35:39.400importantly it requires group effort it's not just simply a faustian project of the individual which
00:35:48.760is another folly that i think a lot of people fall down i just i just wanted to say that else
00:35:53.560here because i caught it in the corner of my eye sure i want to get a couple of other things here
00:35:57.800too so um swan you're over nice no odin's not asleep odin's awake and active odin lives odin
00:36:06.040can do what odin wants to do um some kind of idea that he exists in some dream realm or whatever um
00:36:14.840that's not supported by by anything objectively not only is he not asleep but he actively awakens
00:36:23.960that's one of the important elements the all father is he awakens and stirs the soul of our
00:36:29.800folk that's why we are here doing the things we do is that he is he has called us to it through
00:36:36.740his active participation so yes the gods can communicate through and exist in dream space
00:36:47.800but they also exist far outside of our understanding beyond the veil doing a variety of things
00:36:53.560and we are impious to suggest limitations on their powers
00:37:00.860unless we know that to be true in some case.
00:37:04.040And so I think it's a really important thing
00:38:16.380exploration of wicca because that's the thing somebody mentions in the chat it's like a
00:38:23.380completely different religion that's very figured out yes and no it's also a catch-all for any
00:38:31.260eclectic pagan friendly explorers that haven't found their home yet there's a lot of people
00:38:40.280that have come to ousted truth through wicca over the years there are in the way back some really
00:38:49.080defined schools of like gardenerian uh wicca but most wiccan things are very eclectic and very
00:38:57.940random and hodgepodge and when i say that we ought not throw out the good with the bad
00:39:06.860That is, I don't think that's the best way to interact with the divine, but I do think that it opens people up to the realization that gods of many different peoples are real and exist, and depending on their focus and the things they do, I don't preclude that Wiccans can't seek the favor of our gods and interact with them in some way.
00:39:33.060I think often some of them do, and that leads them home to Alcitru, and I think that's a really good thing, so I don't discount, I think that, I don't want to put this, because you asked if it's tolerant towards Wicca,
00:39:51.060Wicca, I would say that the average Alcetruar is not because Wicca seems to be so very permissive and eclectic and insultingly casual in its approach to divinity, but that is a huge overstatement, and I'm sure there are plenty of Wiccans out there that are very pious, that are very respectful, and that might be very similar in worldview.
00:40:19.060There's probably a lot of, quote unquote, Norse Wiccans out there that don't understand that Ausatru exists or is an option for them.
00:40:30.420So I wouldn't shut somebody out just because that's where they come from or that's how they first, you know, discover the reality of the Aesir.
00:40:39.540I think that that is a place to start.
00:40:41.880I don't think toleration is the right word, but no, in our opinion, that is not, I say in our opinion, no, that's not where you should end up. If that's where you start, cool.
00:40:53.820And there is a path for a lot of esoteric development that might be appealing to Wiccans within an Alcetru context.
00:41:08.280But I think that Wiccans that are awakened to the reality of our gods ought to come home to Alcetru and seek the furtherance of that within our framework, within our folk, within the Alcetru Folk Assembly.
00:41:27.140Svon, do you have any additional thoughts on that?
00:41:31.740Well, one I wanted to get just before they maybe run off and other things for people in the audience.
00:41:38.280witchmaster you asked a great question um but we'll probably not get to it till later because
00:41:43.480we're gonna definitely get back to the um lore here in a moment but definitely stick around or
00:41:50.120you know catch up on that um uh that question about the evolution i have a big point on that
00:41:56.840one i want to make but um as far as wicca i i you you i think you said everything that needed to be
00:42:06.200said about the wiccan side of it i think that from the witch side um you know looking at the lore
00:42:14.440and looking at the word witch and looking at the word or nor near um it it it is about the
00:42:21.560intentions the details um there are plenty of evidence in the lore in which which is of both
00:42:32.360great might involving spiritual magic and um the runes and the first two that come to mind are
00:42:42.040actually like opposite in gender the spiritual uh magic and shamanism is done by a man and the
00:42:48.520rune magic is done by a woman but um in in those two cases one is the soul goes to look for the
00:42:56.680best place to invade in iceland and then the other one is a is a rune viki a woman a rune
00:43:04.840corner and she um carves runes on driftwood that ultimately leads to um the enemy of another man
00:43:14.120being taken out so that he could be usurped and um it is about the intention it is about the um
00:43:23.720um drive and the motivation of the in individual when we're talking about say magic evil magic a
00:43:35.240lot of people nowadays in alsatru try to say oh heimdall runes gods good uh golvey uh seether
00:43:46.520woman bad and they try to brush stroke these and what they're attempting to do is attract
00:43:55.080monotheists who are still working in very simple uh frameworks and uh but the lore
00:44:03.640is completely different than that there there are cases in which um the benefit is
00:44:09.960and other times where the benefit is clearly bad and is condemned or hated um and especially as a
00:44:18.040story element by the late uh nordic period uh especially with the attachment of the fins
00:44:27.240the fins were seen as shamanic practitioners and it was spooky it was exotic it was scary
00:44:36.680that you know eric the blood axe's wife trained with the fins that was to ramp up that intention
00:44:45.480that uh excuse me that tension so when we talk about magic and and uh its uses i think overall
00:44:55.400there is also through who are interested in that and perhaps have more claim than some but again
00:45:02.600that's very scant and then others don't you don't have to be into that to be also true
00:45:10.360you one of the things that i'd like to put out there is wicca as a catch-all isn't a religion
00:45:17.320it's a grouping of pagan spiritualities
00:45:25.000some is just silly hokey hot topic stuff and some are people that are sincerely devoted in their
00:45:36.680practice but again like i said there are covens that are that have a religious structure there
00:45:44.800are gardenerian tradition that has a much more structured and formulated practice but the term
00:45:52.500wicked tends to be a very broad catch-all um witches or people who delve into um those kind
00:46:03.280of magics there is a context for that within our lore that's why we want to bring all of our people
00:46:10.360home to alsatru um aligning things and bringing them under the practice of our faith you can be
00:46:17.780and also be a witch, or a vulva, or a noirnir, or a saithcona, or whatever that looks like,
00:46:33.620there's certainly an avenue for that within our faith. It's not necessarily an active part of it
00:46:42.520all the time but it certainly can be but there's space for that it's just like swan said that it's
00:46:48.760all about you know real things are real how we utilize them makes the difference between whether
00:46:55.640they're right wrong or otherwise you know violence is awesome if you are defending your folk if you
00:47:04.200are heroically facing your enemy violence is bad if you're beating your family members like we
00:47:12.520And I say that, and it sounds really stupid to say out loud, but it's exactly the same as some people's take on magic, as if magic itself is bad.
00:47:23.580No, it can be used for good, beneficial things, or it also can be used for petty, malicious things that are not justified.
00:47:55.760I think that that's the point of the story of our cosmos in general is one of the fight to spiral towards ascension as opposed to be spiraling downward towards entropy.
00:48:18.380So, yes, our gods obviously want to evolve.
00:48:21.100The story of the All-Father is thick with him trying to grow, to learn, to become wise in different things and in different ways.
00:53:31.380I was going to say, Anthony Spears and Witchmaster and Hamilwiz,
00:53:36.220you guys are dropping some great questions and stuff.
00:53:39.240And the one about evolution that I was like, oh, no, you brought it up because I want to talk about it.
00:53:46.200But there is something I want to hold on to that, put a pin on that one and come back to it, because I do want to express an idea or a thought that I had about the evolution, if you will, that's being discussed.
00:53:59.160but i mean i digress we should maintain to the lord because it is a it's short as a piece
00:54:06.120and that will give us more time to talk about all of this stuff so
00:54:13.080okay so it cuts then to a narrative and it after uh the the awakening and the the the prayer um
00:54:24.600And it comes as a narrator, her name was Sigdriva,
00:55:44.820A couple of things about this narration section.
00:55:47.800One, the connection between the Valkyrie being the slayer. Bear this in mind that there are numerous points in which the lore talks about how a warrior should not look up because if he was to see his Valkyrie, it would mean his end.
00:56:09.520there is a lot of connection between the Valkyrie being the willful cut of the thread
00:56:17.520and in this case Lord Odin so a Lord Odin has his manifestations the beings of his will
00:56:29.340that supersede even the Nornir and I mean that with the big N the capital N they
00:56:36.900move in and he cuts their thread as he desires he has taken mastery over fate itself and the
00:56:50.700the valkyrie or the valkyrie is that so for her to slay the king is that but in this instance
00:57:04.700she breaks away from the will and does her own now it's kind of described as being kind of more
00:57:15.180of a mix-up but in the other uh you know pieces it was a decision so she slays the king in essence
00:57:24.080ending his life ending his thread and that in turn brings her as no longer fit to be a manifestation
00:57:36.000of his will to be an extension of his of his decree so she is placed somewhere else and i find that
00:57:46.080interesting interesting to know um the other is is that sigurd knows that she is if she is of the
00:57:55.120other worlds if she is from you know beyond the bridge above or beyond the veils below
00:58:02.800she will know things and so as kind of a test and a well if it's true then i gain boon from this
00:58:13.440so there is a a sense that sigurd is a mortal man sigurd is of the middle world and in his mind
00:58:22.560as soon as she says she is an agent of lord odin that went astray from his will and got punished
00:58:29.760for it that she will have knowledge outside of simply the realm of men and that that part to me
00:58:37.680I think is the dragon blood. It's the heart. In the last poem, when he was drinking from the heart
00:58:43.480and ate the flesh of the dragon heart, he gained an understanding of not only just wisdom, but
00:58:51.660the application to find out more. And this is a double-tongued kind of prodding into her. If she's
00:59:03.480for real she will produce substance and if she does produce substance he will gain from it
00:59:10.520very very very um tactical even though not really kind of hyper focused on in the story um
00:59:20.280and so she does speak of the knowledge of the runes the the the runes
00:59:27.800and the way she speaks of them she speaks of them in not so much say a reading of the
00:59:38.680the tales of fate or even strictly the the projection of the will they're very specific
00:59:47.180and i think that's part of the story element is what makes the runes that
00:59:52.720menfolk do any different than the runes that the gods do well there isn't because it comes from the
01:00:00.600gods but that the gods have precise and powerful and unique formulations that that garner results
01:00:13.320and um in the in the um chat on the side i saw some folks talking about runestones in the u.s
01:00:23.080i think it would be because some of those may be hoaxes or not and i'm not really
01:00:26.940going to go down that road but i would encourage everyone who's interested in the runes to look
01:00:32.960into the um runestone um called swinger rude um it is a lot of people think that runes
01:00:43.840they discredited germanic runes and said oh they probably stole it from the romans who got it from
01:00:49.120the etruscans and the etruscans got it from the phoenicians and ultimately it links back to the
01:00:53.360phoenicians who are the canaanites and i never never uh believed that that they kind of did this
01:01:01.680processes where the germanics stole it well this stone that was recently found predates etruscan
01:01:09.200um writing infused in europe at all and it is filled with uh runic inscriptions so just wanted
01:01:19.840to point people in that direction and i think also too that's kind of a dichotomy that you
01:01:25.280and i have else here go the you said i was being far too nice because i i i don't i try to lay these
01:01:33.440breadcrumbs down and sometimes i think what we need and what we what you're doing is the authority
01:01:40.160of these the the ideas like cut the crap stop trying to be nice just simply say the truth
01:01:47.680whereas i have a tendency to kind of dance around it in hopes that they they will follow the trail
01:05:02.440If I abdicated the responsibility that comes with that by downplaying it or by not taking a firm position when I believe a firm position is warranted and the right way to go.
01:05:21.020So, especially while the both of us are on here, Svan errs on the side of piety, of not wanting to overstep, of not wanting to, you know, we don't ever want to box the gods in.
01:05:35.520So when we say, you know, here is a line, this is right, this is wrong, we always want to be accurate with that.
01:05:44.360And I think that Svon is very cautious of that. And I think that in my position, I'm also trying to be very cautious, but I'm aware of the responsibility that's been entrusted to me as well. And when we're both in the room, it kind of falls on me to make those real strong statements of, you know, this far and no farther, or here's where the lines are.
01:06:10.360And so that's why some of that happens. But please don't think that anytime that we do take a really hard stance on something, please know that neither of us would ever do that inauthentically.
01:06:27.500And we are always very aware of the responsibility inherent in that.
01:06:34.700I pray every day that we do this show before I come on air to ask specifically that the gods, you know, help me to not do that.
01:06:47.540And I ask their blessing and what I'm going to say and that they give me wit and wisdom and that I represent them rightly to the folk.
01:06:56.360and that I granted, you know, the things I need to bring our folk home
01:07:03.640So that's not to say that everything we're going to say is always going to be perfect.
01:07:07.500It's not, but it is always going to be our very best attempt to be as perfect
01:07:13.040as we can be towards our gods, especially when we are speaking on their behalf in some way.
01:07:19.240So just know that and carry on with the text whenever you would like.
01:07:23.320okay oh yeah go ahead i'm sorry um so um she she agrees he says you know if you are of out of this
01:07:38.840world if you are out of the middle the mid guard uh then teach me wisdom and so then it shifts back
01:07:50.760to the poetic verses um and so she says beer i bring the tree of battle so she says beer and
01:08:03.720it's very interesting that the word bior is utilized the actual word beer um
01:08:09.740so she offers him another horn and she calls him the tree of battle so
01:08:17.400you know the the folks that i've been seeing recently talking about yggdrasil we are yggdrasil
01:08:23.980we are the tree this concept was not lost on our ancestors either um she calls him the tree
01:08:31.800but he is this tree of battle because he is a warrior and she is a awoken by one who knows not
01:08:40.620the the essence of fear he slayed a dragon he drank its blood he ate its heart she is
01:08:51.400right now complete not the possibility of even being rescued was one thing but the idea is again
01:09:02.760there is a mortal man out there who knows not fear and a valkyrie knows men's fear they know
01:09:12.760our fear in battle um they are quite intimate with it and so there's an excitement there as
01:09:21.080well kind of building uh it as a storyteller this is kind of the the things unwritten um
01:09:29.400that i would immediately start kind of keying in on so she says beer i bring thee tree of battle
01:09:36.720mingled of strength and mighty fame charms it holds and healing signs the words uh leak
01:09:46.520uh leaking stava leak uh anything that leech leak garlic garlic um because of its use in medicinal
01:09:59.140So the word leek has any connection to medicine, but the word signs is not correct. It's the stava.
01:10:07.240So speaking of the runes, I think also to Bellows did these different words to make the translation not so repetitive.
01:10:18.020She says that the beer itself holds charms and healing runes, spells, full good, and gladness runes, gamon runa, runes of happiness.
01:10:36.020happiness um so she then speaks winning runes learn if thou longest to win and the runes on
01:10:50.460thy sword hilt right some on the furrow and some on the flat and twice shalt thou call on
01:11:00.620tear so she's speaking about the furrowed groove in the center to reduce the weight of the blade
01:11:10.260but that the runes themselves and she's in this case there's no true like mention of the two
01:11:21.520tear runes but it is runes in general the runes that she is teaching him and these are being
01:11:29.800purposely vague. But that when you do carve these runes in the flat and in the furrow,
01:11:38.700you shall call upon him, he who is the lord of combat, the lord of war, the lord of nations,
01:11:48.060tir, and invoke his power to bless these runes. And that's another interesting thing about the
01:11:56.800idea of carving runes but also asking the holy gods to imbue the runes or in essence um that
01:12:08.960as your deed goes into weird and they gather at the well of urd they know recognize and place
01:12:19.280within it um their blessings and then she turns and this is where the poem begins to kind of
01:12:28.400drift into just like a montage if you will of learning she says uh ale runes learn runes
01:12:39.120around ale and that in in question is from what we have is runes that protect you from poisons
01:12:49.280Runes that protect you from illness or malice.
01:12:57.000It could also be brewing runes, but this case is more towards the malice because of what's said after.
01:13:06.020It's ale runes learn that with lies the wife.
01:13:09.980So, of course, we've seen in numerous of the poems where an evil queen or an evil Jarl's wife poisons or attempts to do something through the horn giving.
01:13:28.860and we've we've spoken about that that that's the end that's antithesis to culture at the time
01:13:36.860that the the woman that brings the uh horn is such a high valued thing that uh for her to be
01:13:47.100villainized in the poems is kind of the ultimate sense of the corruption of the house and it's also
01:13:55.180we all know this, it's a thing. Women's power is wielded in subtle ways. And that's for good
01:14:08.960or for ill. Because I don't know if anybody else is, you know, I'm sure we've all seen
01:14:18.020this in different ways. One of the most gross things is when you see women try to pretend
01:14:29.900that they're men. If they try to execute power in masculine ways, it doesn't work right
01:14:39.900because they're not men so when women try to outman men
01:14:45.600it doesn't that's not how it works that's abdicating the things that they naturally
01:14:53.320have a skill towards in order to ape things that they don't have the inherent power of
01:15:00.200and i mean obviously same thing when when men try to do things in womanly fashion
01:15:06.180women's power is most effective when it's done subtly and with a softness they have a tremendous
01:15:15.920ability magically and mundanely to influence circumstance by adjusting group dynamic
01:15:28.140and the relationship between men and things by calming disputes,
01:15:34.000by showing particular people favor and deference and others ignoring,
01:15:41.140by, you know, all of those things can enhance the order of a group.
01:15:49.960They can enhance the effectiveness of his counselors,
01:15:53.520of the warriors to bond together, or they can sow discord.
01:15:58.140And they can, you know, whisper in people's ear and seduce men into all kind of nefarious behavior.
01:16:07.900But they can also reinforce men's duties with the same powers.
01:16:13.000And so you see women, you know, you don't see the woman stand up in the hall and challenge the, you know, loud dude to a fight.
01:16:22.560That just doesn't, that's not how that works.
01:16:25.240but you do see women when they have an ax to grind sometimes you see them poison drinks or
01:16:33.000you see them cast spells upon things or do those kind of subtle influences and this is an interesting
01:16:39.980because it comes from a woman like hey heads up here's a thing to do and it this will help you
01:16:49.620against women trying to do you harm so sometimes you have different arrays of magically skilled
01:16:57.000women like engaging on each side of a conflict to negate the other's subtle effects and this is
01:17:08.120kind of an interesting it is interesting when a woman is giving him the tools to thwart nefarious
01:17:16.480attempts by other women um that's that's a special thing and i think you see this in different
01:17:23.100motifs you see it with women when their men are about to go out to battle you see it with
01:17:27.460you know advisors towards a king you see it with mothers towards a son you see this sometimes so
01:17:34.480it's kind of a neat glimpse into that the gender politics of the time and and it also has pertinence
01:17:43.020to later or in the in the future of the story which is really interesting it's even against
01:17:52.940her that's the that's an interesting part of that as well is that she kind of ends up becoming that
01:18:01.100very instrument i i did want to say um so the uh the part about the runes and calling upon
01:18:09.900tier i didn't want somebody to go out there and say well like svat said that the two runes of
01:18:14.620the tear runes you know that's not really what they're doing i wanted to point it out in this
01:18:19.820next um verse the reason why there is a mentioning of tear twice and the idea that that's connected
01:18:29.900to those runes is because there is a mention of another rune that is carved as well. So
01:18:39.600not saying that it isn't, but that the focus is correlated because of this stanza coming up.
01:18:49.800she says ale runes to learn that with lies the wife of another betray not thy trust
01:19:01.020on the horn thou shalt write and the backs of thy hands and need shalt mark on thy nails
01:19:10.140For those who are knowledgeable in the runes, there is a rune called Nalv, Nalv in the Younger Futhark, and that would be known at this time, is most likely the rune that she is referencing in relation to carving on the nails.
01:19:40.140Now, there's no specification if there's carving on the back of the hands. There could be. It's not really emphasized. It's simply that it is rista. It is written on the horn, on the back of the hands, and on the nails.
01:20:02.220and this again adds another development in the understanding of that rune or another way to look
01:20:10.760at this too is that's i think from the story aspect from the storyteller to the audience
01:20:17.860um the fantastical level of the runes could be i i don't want to say it's not possible
01:20:28.660But what I do kind of have this inclination to believe about is that the storytellers knew that the runes were a plot device to really give the audience what they wanted.
01:20:44.780And so sometimes they could be viciously precise, specific on things that they were talking about.
01:20:55.960So, you know, you don't see that so much in other like the continental, the Anglo-Saxon and the German rune poems and or the rune songs or the Merceberg charms and so on.
01:21:11.900they're very vague but by the nordic period it was oh this rune or i know a rune and they won't
01:21:20.080specify it but it will um you know blow the hinges off of doors that have the hinges facing outward
01:21:29.320very just very powerful um and i think that there's more symbolic meaning than the specificity
01:21:38.320of it but so a couple of things i wanted to say too in the time of the writing of this we don't
01:21:59.520understanding of the runes in the way we have it in this very well developed complete format now
01:22:08.320due to our understanding of archaeology and linguistics and all kind of things that our
01:22:17.200ancestors of this period didn't have access to um so we may be really familiar now with an accepted
01:22:27.280understanding of of the runes in their different rune rows and what those things mean
01:22:33.520that wasn't a given for our ancestors they were inherently very mysterious it's very obvious to
01:22:42.480you know any brand new aussitur who's curious enough to pick up rune lore that now these
01:22:51.540is the need room that's not obvious to the people who read this
01:22:56.420I think whenever we talk about runes, it's also always worth pointing out that the rune is the mystery that's embodied by the straight line carving.
01:23:08.840It's not the straight line carving itself.
01:23:12.880That seems subtle. It seems a distinction without a difference, but it's not. The difference really does matter.
01:23:19.600It is a meaning that we've ascribed to these different sigils.
01:23:23.940uh and also talking about women's stuff over just to follow up on what i said a few minutes ago
01:23:31.740there was someone in the chat that mentioned that women lose their power when men don't desire them
01:23:36.680sexually like women leveraging lust and sexual attraction is absolutely a fundamental part of a
01:23:49.260lot of their subtle manipulation of things, certainly. But it's not the only part. Often you
01:23:56.980see, because there's other things, you treat an old lady that's being mistreated very differently
01:36:38.540where the law speakers, where the priests
01:36:40.820would come together and adjudicate problems between and also when trying to rouse your
01:36:49.940menfolk to battle or to calm their spirits and dissuade them from being foolish. That's where
01:37:00.080the speech runes come in. But again, it's not mentioned as to where. And I've encountered some
01:37:08.740folks who have liberty in in that saying perhaps it's the tongue perhaps it's the throat um or
01:37:16.120perhaps it's simply the song itself it's uh very very interesting to think of the the changing of
01:37:23.120the speech um thought runes learn if all shall think thou art keenest mind of men and then
01:37:35.540there is a break here. And I can't remember if it's most likely ineligibility. And there is
01:37:48.980another one further on, but I did want to speak a little bit on that is when we talk about the
01:38:00.160the magics and we look at the golden box and a lot of folks will look at the golden box and say
01:38:05.360oh that's that's a hermetic medieval kabbalah whatever they you know that's you know affecting
01:38:14.400the runic no that there are a lot of rune sigils in the golden box in relation to the very same
01:38:24.640content and I think that either it could be written off as simply that's you know most
01:38:33.460groups of people have desire to have the rune that will you know make them be keenest of mind
01:38:43.420but also too nothing exists in a vacuum and when we say Kabbalist
01:38:51.600um we're talking about jews of and i'm broad stroking this but jews of the medieval ages
01:39:00.320and they were already in europe and christians and their christian magic the sigil magic what
01:39:07.980have you um was already in europe but if you go further back it's the sacred geometry of greece
01:39:14.700It's the power of word, both in Italy and in the Middle East and in Egypt.
01:39:22.180There was an accumulation of a lot of that that ultimately led to what those groups are.
01:39:31.180And it could be even traced all the way back to the Babylonians and influenced by shamanic practices and the idea of placement within the world, etc.
01:39:43.660But I just, you know, people kind of get on some of the magical practices of like the Golderbock and say that it's overly influenced by this or that, but you can see the intent of the runes here are expressed almost the same in the Golderbock.
01:40:02.040The only difference is the style. And since the symbol is not the essence of its power, it's the sound. I think that would be a more unique argument to make is that sigil magic from medieval hermetic and geometry may be not in accordance with our souls as Germanic folk because ours was so clearly based around sound.
01:40:28.960But that's a whole nother thing. I just wanted to kind of throw that up there.
01:40:35.260So there is this spot where we lose two lines. And in 13, it says, then Hropt arranged and them he wrote. Hropt is Lord Odin.
01:41:19.760Let me see. I'm trying to see if that's. Oh, no. So there's there. Well, there's the goat in Bauhall, Hayden, but Haydropner and treasure opener, Hodrovnir, are both in correlation to Mimir,
01:41:45.100Specifically after he is placed in and becomes the access point for Lord Odin to gain entry into the well of memory
01:41:57.780Or the well that draws in so that he can see it and gain its knowledge
01:42:05.820On the mountain he stood with Brimir's sword, on his head the helm he bore, and then first the head of Mim spoke forth, and the words of truth it told.
01:42:24.420and then poetically it's another part that's lost but we don't we're not deprived of everything
01:42:35.880but again what this is doing in the poem is that she is establishing that she knows knowledge that
01:42:46.080humans would not know she is saying the next things that i'm about to teach you
01:42:52.340They are from Lord Othyn himself, and he gained this when he pulled out this knowledge from Mimir at the well.
01:43:07.140So it's another elevation or another kind of power reinforcement of the rims.
01:43:13.900And in 15, he says he bade or he encouraged through this.
01:43:18.820that Mimir was teaching Lord Odin, and Lord Odin was the one that told her or told the gods,
01:43:27.580he bade right on the shield before the shining goddess, on Arvark's ear and on Alsvid's hoof,
01:43:36.720and on the wheel of the car of Hrongmir's killer, on Sleipnir's teeth and the straps of the sledge.
01:43:45.240So Mimir now teaches this sacred power, perhaps because he's now connected to the waters that Lord Odin also reached into, but that Lord Odin then turns and uses these powers and places them in key spots.
01:44:11.240there is the the this sacred symbol of power that's placed upon the horse of the sun
01:44:19.940alvark on its ear and on the hoof of the other horse so and on the wheel of the car so on the
01:44:32.160chariot wheels of lord thor but what we're also getting here is again the galderbok talks about
01:44:38.760placing these sigils under your arm or in the ground or upon these things that is not something
01:44:45.720foreign that was added into uh nordic magic practices because we see here it was very much
01:44:54.200about placing the symbol in specific places for its effect in essence
01:45:00.000drawing the power of orlaw into the very specific part of orlaw you're trying to affect
01:45:12.120um but in this case lord othen does it in in the heavens he does it on slepnir's teeth
01:45:21.920that i so this all of this placement to me is just absolutely fascinating and and again it leaks
01:45:31.400um an understanding of the usage of the runes by our ancestors the audience would understand
01:45:39.440this to some degree um where these uh symbols of power should be placed but then it goes into
01:45:49.580it just expands from there obviously she's leaving the mortal realm and saying lord oh
01:45:57.820then these are the these are the runes that he learned he after pulling from mim and hanging
01:46:05.160from the tree this is the the the powers that be beyond um normal mortal understanding
01:46:16.88016 is on the paws of the bear and on brahi's tongue brahi of course the god of music of poetry
01:46:28.460um i would even argue with mathematics but um on the wolf claws bared and the eagle's beak
01:46:38.780on bloody wings and the bridge's end, and on freeing hands and helping footprints.
01:46:48.760Again, freeing or unfettering of hands, I think, is ultimately what
01:46:55.720this is referring to. Runes on glass and on gold and on goodly charms, in wine and in
01:47:08.640beer and on well-loved seats on gungnir's point on the spear point of lord oden on granny's breast
01:47:19.200the horse of sigurd on the nails of norns and uh most likely they're this part of the poem is
01:47:29.680referring to simply witches in general um and not so you know these are on the important pieces
01:47:40.000of all of these things so the iconic you know things that do the damage are like the teeth
01:47:48.080and the claws and the paws or the wings of the eagle or these these various things on the nails
01:47:54.320of the nornir that twists are associated with twisting and spinning and handiwork as is of
01:48:04.880of materials of weaving and that's a constant theme throughout so on the nails of that is
01:48:13.920meaningful i just wanted to put that out there because yeah no i never thought of it that way
01:48:18.880the switch the switch point of activation um also uh this is an interesting part here at the end
01:48:30.640and the night owl's beak which i think is very very interesting to think about whenever anyone
01:48:41.280says our ancestors didn't do something remember that by lore standards this is the only time
01:48:51.600that an owl is mentioned it was almost as if they did not know the creature existed if lore
01:49:02.960constituted their their knowledge of um and i remember getting into kind of a debate with
01:49:10.720someone about i think it was music and masks uh the usage of masks which has been proven now and
01:49:18.080and uh drums and you know of course the runes themselves being written on bone written on wood
01:49:26.800um and not surviving over these over time and the scarcity of an owl um kind of again would lend to
01:49:37.600its lack of mentioning often but in this case it is mentioned but it's it's if this was not there
01:49:48.480this verse was gone by all lower counts there would be no other mentionings of owls and uh
01:49:56.560i don't think that's a wise spot for us as as folk to kind of say oh well our ancestors wouldn't do
01:50:05.360that or iron sisters never used the drums because it was if they did it would have been mentioned
01:50:11.440that's like saying you know ah if it was true it'd be on the nightly news that's not that's not a
01:50:18.000good look what kind of one's volume i was going to say he's either being
01:50:35.280very still in an awkward pose or he is frozen voodoo voodoo
01:50:40.400does that mean it's time for impromptu dad jokes uh it does not it means it's time to uh
01:50:54.160hit an impromptu question until spawn returns hey there question for y'all tonight so looking at the
01:51:01.120concept of the gift cycle, it's pretty easy to see how humans benefit from receiving gifts from
01:51:06.320gods. But what do the gods get from it? Is there some tangible way they benefit from offerings and
01:51:14.320other forms of worship? Or do they just like it? Thanks. That is a really good question. And
01:51:22.880something i think that's important for us to contemplate is kind of what what they get out of
01:51:32.480it because largely our portion our giving portion in the gift cycle during ritual is a very symbolic
01:51:44.240thing like the gods don't need mead they don't need you know they don't need meat they don't need
01:51:55.280the stuff that we offer but this thought really does count and the devotion is meaningful to them
01:52:06.720and i think that it's fun to ponder like what that looks like but i don't know that we will
01:52:11.840So, I don't know that we will know, but I think one of the, a place to start, and I
01:52:23.260don't pretend this is the end of it, but it is a place to start on it.
01:52:28.340When you are, and again, I have no idea the age of the person who asks the question, but
01:52:34.120But when a parent exchanges a gift with a child, if you get your kid a really cool toy
01:52:42.280that they really want, it's very obvious the tangible thing they get from it.
01:52:48.320One for one, I want the Barbie Corvette.
01:53:24.980yet parents uh are moved to tears when their children give them something like that
01:53:32.180what do you get from it like if your child puts a bunch of thought and man i really think dad
01:53:41.160likes this thing so i'll incorporate this thing and i'll put a bunch of effort because i really
01:53:46.860love glitter so i'll put a bunch of glitter on it and i really love butterflies i think dad would
01:53:53.760i seen dad one time he eats you know whatever he likes beef jerky so here's beef jerky on the thing
01:54:02.720the thought and the effort that a child puts into a gift they give the gift sucks but the thought
01:54:11.920and the the fact that they gave you the gift and spent the time thinking about it and like
01:54:19.840like wanting and being like excited to give it to you has a value, but I don't know how to put
01:54:27.420that value on a scale or quantify it or make it make sense. And I don't claim that's all of it
01:54:35.060with the gods. I don't know all of it with the gods, but I think that that is a valuable starting
01:54:40.500point with the gods. There's nothing that we materially can provide them with, but I think
01:54:48.040that our devotion and our worship our love for them and our loyalty to them has a value a very
01:54:56.360real value but it's not one that's you know it's not the barbie corvette it's the
01:55:04.080it's the gift of love and thought and caring that that matters and i think that it matters
01:55:14.320more than just a awe that's nice way i think it's much more profound than that
01:55:21.520i think that also in a way we are and we by we i don't mean humanity i mean
01:55:30.240And Ausatru are the gods' representatives in Midgard to a way.
01:55:37.540We have an ability to amplify them, to celebrate them, to spread their reputation, to help facilitate their children coming home to them.
01:55:54.880There are tangible services that we can provide to them that do matter.
01:56:00.240um i don't so again the question is really i think a very good one and an interesting one
01:56:09.100to ponder because the more we do i think we're more effective in our portion of the gift cycle
01:56:15.100if all it is is about giving them material stuff that they don't necessarily need i think it
01:56:22.520misses the mark the more it's about intention and thoughtfulness and full-hearted devotion i think
01:56:32.480it has greater value and i think we internalize that when we think along the lines of the question
01:56:37.460you asked tyler so thank you for doing that it's fine do you have any thoughts on the question of
01:56:42.480you know the gift cycle it's obvious what we you know it's very obvious many ways we get gifts from
01:56:49.200the gods but in what way what do they get out of the gift cycle from us in what way does it
01:56:55.980does it benefit them in some way or uh is it uh how did he ask but what do the gods get from it
01:57:04.220is it some tangible way they benefit from offerings and other forms of worship or do
01:57:08.580they just like it do you have thoughts to add to that yeah i well i think one is that the gods are
01:57:17.440ultimately seeking for us to be in alignment in the correct track our track not someone else's
01:57:25.360um however i just by observation i just feel like the gods are not going to
01:57:34.000give the benefits of being on track for the sake of giving them they have to be earned so if our
01:57:42.000people turned away from them then they desire us to be on track with them and that means correct
01:57:51.680timing like holy tides or holidays but when we're talking about the gift cycle just in general i
01:57:59.120think once you open up a connection to the gods and place yourself on track and you're able to
01:58:06.240receive their wisdoms they have far more worth in you uh going forward and i that's a really important
01:58:20.080part of this i think the cycle of the soul of men the cycle of our souls going up and down or down
01:58:27.760and up versus the animal cycle which is um that you know the vanir uh place forth into the middle
01:58:37.120world life and as animals die that that life force ebbs and flows our souls and our life force are not
01:58:46.400just part of the animal but have a unique factor of being and having inhabitants in in the heavenly
01:58:55.760realm so when that happens it is about finding and filling heaven with the the the premier uh the the
01:59:10.400exalted the um the ones who are personally chosen uh all of these things are part of that and i
01:59:19.200believe that this is a processes um that happens uh so it but it all starts with us getting right
01:59:29.360or uh you know i say i said it tonight um to a a member or i mean excuse me a young man who's
01:59:37.680thinking about joining i said everything is down stream of the soul everything is downstream
01:59:44.560of spirit. So it ultimately starts with us physically showing that we are getting ourselves
01:59:54.580right. We're unifying, holding tradition, working together, practicing. And then once we open
02:00:04.240ourselves up to that, that is when the gods are able to collectively, we are unified. We are
02:00:14.360in synchronicity together at that point. I'm not saying that the gods can't do anything. I just
02:00:19.780think, or can't do anything unless you do this specific thing. No, in reality, what I'm saying
02:00:25.880is, is that the synchronicity of two cogs that are spinning out of time will create nothing.
02:00:34.900And the one cog that is a god will break the cog of man that is off time. So you have to be on
02:00:43.660time. You have to be lined up with them, and then you're able to receive the motion and the
02:00:52.100power that they give in their spinning, if that makes any sense.
02:01:01.680All right, Svon, let's get back to where you cut off before you left us.
02:01:07.720sorry about that that's uh there is a uh storm rolling through uh this area and we there was a
02:01:15.480couple of outages the other day with uh tree lines going down and such so just trying to
02:01:22.460find the internet service provider leave something to be desired i'll just put that out there well
02:01:27.580yeah and it's also partially my curse i think at the time though the clocks the it's all
02:01:34.700But it happened a couple of days ago as well. And my wife was telling me that it's on the onset of this storm coming up the East Coast. So I don't know. Not making excuses. Caught me off guard completely.
02:01:52.140Um, so she speaks about removing the runes.
02:02:01.600Shaved off were the runes that of old were written and mixed with the holy mead and sent on ways so wide.
02:02:40.120um but that association of the wagon and specifically the the wheels rotation is
02:02:47.960always correlated to with the waning of the moon the waxing of the moon the way uh the waning of
02:02:55.620life it's the place in which these great powers in the middle and that's kind of what i was going
02:03:01.140to go on with the the evolution of the gods question um is that funny i as far as the like
02:03:09.220scraping thing I've wondered about that a little bit one of the things that I ran into
02:03:15.980and sometimes I get these old man things like ah a recent book that's 15 years old now I uh
02:03:27.040I was reading something in Alu by uh Edred Thorson a little bit about it's got
02:03:33.860more of an operative thing to it about like how to practically utilize runes so one of the things
02:03:41.700he talks about though as far as with food and with drink is like carving runes into cheese
02:03:48.600and then scraping it off into you know whatever you're cooking or whatever you're doing
02:03:55.180and i'm trying to think of practical ways to what this might entail this idea of of carved
02:04:02.460rooms to being scraped into something especially when we talk about dissolvable you know like
02:04:09.680liquids they can dissolve in and I remember that portion being kind of a standout to me
02:04:17.960of ways to utilize rooms in this kind of a context it looks like Svan's frozen again
02:04:32.460all right well while he thaws out we will move on to another question
02:04:37.020this one is from ida carolina who is four years old i appreciate you uh listening to the show ida
02:04:44.280um did ask and embla get married after they received the gifts of odin billy and bay
02:04:51.660uh yes i believe that they did i believe that they got married while receiving those gifts
02:04:58.600And I think in the most fundamental way, like, did they have a ceremony like you have in modern times? I don't necessarily think so. But they got married in a very special way. Because Odin and his brothers literally blessed their union and willed that they be together and make the progeny of Aryan mankind.
02:05:24.660So I think they got married in a very particular and very special way.
02:05:28.800And I think that Odin and his brothers officiated that way.
02:05:43.980So, again, as we wait for Svan to return to us, we have a question from Trent.
02:05:53.820Alshary Gauthier and Wittance Fawn, can you speak on the importance of the AFA, excuse me, being the best way to practice Sousa True?
02:08:14.920There's not the forward progression like you see in the Austro-Folk Assembly.
02:08:19.640You see an endless cycle of new, you know,
02:08:24.620everybody wants to start their own group for a variety of reasons.
02:08:28.920Either they genuinely believe they can do it better,
02:08:32.380or they want to be the king of their own small kingdoms.
02:08:40.460But we don't see those move anywhere or build anything.
02:08:43.940We do see movement and we see building with the Astru Folk Assembly.
02:08:52.740The Astru Folk Assembly is the route towards the future so that our children and our grandchildren and their grandchildren can worship our gods and have good things to be proud of.
02:09:06.800and that Ausatru can regain a prominence and a dignity and an elevation
02:09:13.940that no other group of Ausatruar has been able to establish thus far.
02:09:21.640I believe that's because of a special blessing and a special approval by the Iser.
02:09:29.660The phenomenon we see with the various different backyard Ausatru groups
02:09:35.600is that every new coalition of people, you restart Ausatru at year one.
02:09:45.120It's really special that in the AFA, we're on year 31.
02:09:50.520And that may not seem like a long time,
02:09:53.580but in the milieu of people that we surround ourselves with, it's a very big deal.
02:10:00.120So it is a fundamental belief of ours that the Iser have blessed us and have anointed our founder, Stephen McNallan, as being particularly the herald of the All-Father to reawaken and reforge Al-Satruch.
02:10:20.140that ordination and the things that he's put into motion have been blessed
02:10:27.300and very much we believe the gods have blessed and approved of myself being the
02:10:34.260and of the ordinations that we pass on to our gothar
02:10:39.200being in trough with the afa is being in trough with the iser
02:10:46.840I would not ever go so far as to state that the AFA is the only way to connect with the gods, or the only way to be Ausatru, but I do believe that the AFA is the right way to be Ausatru, and it's the way that has been blessed and set in motion by the Aesir.
02:11:07.220so affiliation with the astro folk assembly isn't just cool to be part of the club it's the right
02:11:16.420way of practicing our faith and moving our faith forward so i believe very strongly that trough to
02:11:24.100the afa is trough to the icier and that this is the right way that our folk ought to come home
02:11:32.260this is the way that is being blessed with success
02:14:06.120but I don't want to presume that they have
02:14:08.900But I don't know what exactly that looks like.
02:14:13.000What I have seen is when people are flippant or casual or don't, their heart's not in the right place when they make offerings.
02:14:24.220I have seen calamities happen within their life or within their peer group or within, you know, that circle of people that share hymenia with them.
02:14:35.280and i think what you see more often than not isn't just one-offs what you see a lot is
02:14:43.100uh patterns of things i think if your offerings are generally accepted you see good results in
02:14:52.200your life and with the group of people that you worship with that share in those offerings
02:14:56.760I think that when the offerings are not received well, you see a pattern of not getting those benefits, and sometimes of things going poorly, and of things disproportionately working out for the bad.
02:15:16.440And I think that that's how you see it's very subtle, and I don't think it's the clean answer everyone would like.
02:15:22.280there are particular times during bloat that I think you do see acceptance of gifts in a very
02:15:31.980particular way you'll have synchronistic things happen syncretic things rather happen
02:15:37.660in the midst of bloat you'll have favorable animal signs you'll have the fire roar up at
02:15:45.740an auspicious time or the wind pick up in a particular special way or clouds move in a special
02:15:53.800you'll see auguries of it in a particularly favorable time but it's much harder to tell
02:16:01.800when it's not accepted well and i think we can think a little bit about that in terms of gift
02:16:08.680giving it's very seldom that somebody's going to give you a gift that you're going to
02:16:14.240respond very negatively to. There are times that people give you a gift that isn't given with the
02:16:22.520best of intentions, or you don't really appreciate like you do the others, but usually there's a
02:16:28.900certain amount of politeness to where you don't strike out at them. You just kind of nod, oh,
02:16:35.060thanks. And I think that's might be more often what we see. But I think it would be extraordinary
02:16:44.720for you to give a gift and there to be some very obvious, you know, rejection of you or the gift.
02:16:54.600So I keep that in mind. And I know it's not the doesn't sound like the best answer,
02:16:59.320but I do think it's the honest answer. All right. So let me get back into where we were at.
02:17:06.800And I'm so sure Svon will join us again when he came. I think we left off on 19.
02:17:15.060There he is right on time, Svon. So 19, proceed if you would. I was about ready to do it without you.
02:17:42.940So, okay. I was talking a bit, and I didn't realize because I'm on a different page.
02:17:50.880So, 19, beach runes are there, birth runes are there, and all the runes of ale, and the magic runes of might, who knows them rightly and reads them true, has themself to help, ever they aid till the gods are gone, referring Ragnarok.
02:18:20.880uh then there's a lost part there because most likely in uh in eligibility then brynhild speaks
02:18:34.120now sh shalt thou choose for the choice is given though tree of the biting blade
02:28:57.00027 eyes that see need the sons of men who fight in battles fierce
02:29:07.800oft witches evil sit by the way who blade and courage blunt so here now we speak of
02:29:18.900the usage of witchcraft again um where and this the the translation here is
02:29:27.720uh bail working women often bail working women sit and blunt the blades of men and
02:29:42.960blunt their courage so the usage of that magic the usage of uh the outside force you need to be
02:29:53.880of keen sight i think ultimately though this means about looking out and seeing who's influencing
02:30:01.300your enemies who's helping them you can't fight an enemy while the witch is off to the side
02:30:11.200You cannot fight an enemy and have a milquetoast friend or someone who may be working against you, though, doesn't seem to be an overt threat right away.
02:30:28.24028. Then fifth, I counsel, I read thee, thou maidens fair, thou seest on benches sitting. Let the silver of kinship not rob thee of sleep.
02:35:13.520So that's straightforward. But also, too, just it was deliberately named as illness, malice, illud. Evil is the translation, but illud. It is, you should shun this.
02:35:28.100so do not partake in that um and do not lure them
02:35:36.340uh then the ninth i i counsel thee burial render if thou findest a fallen corpse
02:35:49.280of sickness dead or dead in the sea or dead of weapons and wounds all right i got two um
02:36:23.760sexual dalliances with attractive ladies or for that matter when all of a sudden
02:36:32.900women show you interest like they're very into you and they want to engage in uh in coitus with
02:36:42.120you um but here's what i'm saying and again you see why i'm dancing around it there is a
02:36:51.160overwhelming overriding instinct to go down that path and I think that we all are aware maybe of
02:37:02.080experience when you do go down that path as soon as you reach the end of that path you very quickly
02:37:09.340no longer have that overriding need to do those things and then all of a sudden you have a moment
02:37:16.700of clarity where you realize mistakes that you've made, and you are filled with regrets
02:37:21.340oftentimes. It is very easy to just say, don't do that. I think we all know that going in,
02:37:30.400and many of us do that anyway. Heed the read here. Try to avoid doing that. There are a lot
02:37:42.600of other options that are not married women, especially married women to people that you
02:37:50.780have to deal with. Don't get involved in those entanglements. I think that is very obvious,
02:37:58.300but as obvious as it is, you would be very, I don't know, we would all be very surprised
02:38:03.980to know how truly often that happens and how poisonous that is to so many so many friendships
02:38:14.220so many partnerships um so many families it is always shocking because there is some
02:38:27.100some appeal and some spell that is cast to engage in it precisely because of how inappropriate
02:38:38.940it might be don't do that um but i just want to mention that that is a thing that there
02:38:48.780is a the overriding drive of that needs to be the clarity that comes after that should be considered
02:39:01.900before and not after and i know that that's hard to do when other forces are driving you
02:39:10.540but there is something and i've said this a number of times but i think this is a
02:39:14.460really important point about arian nobility is choosing
02:39:21.980not having your actions dictated to you not reacting to stimulus but pondering your course
02:39:31.980and then you making a choice to engage or not to engage or if to engage in what way
02:39:39.100there are times in life where you instinctively counterpunch and i get that but the goal
02:39:47.820is to where you are not just counter punching you are able to see things coming and make wise
02:39:56.020choices and here's the thing you can choose whatever you might want to do i don't endorse
02:40:02.320all of your choices but stopping and choosing so you are not a victim of circumstance
02:40:08.280dance, you have a will that leads you towards what you want or what you don't want. You're not
02:40:16.640at the whim of, you know, outrageous fortune. You make choices and then you embrace the consequences
02:40:26.060of the choices that you make for good or for ill. That is a key point in Aryan nobility and
02:40:32.040some we should often be reminded of, all of us.
02:40:37.680And she speaks about that at this point, you know, you should leave if not willing to make the choices to utilize these powers with willful intent.
02:40:50.260And again, we see it all the time with people that make choices, but then turn around and say, oh, you know, I'm the victim of this circumstance.
02:41:03.100And then they also get it wrong in their heads about fate and say, oh, well, if I'm fated to go down any path or what have you, then there really is no choice.
02:41:13.980And that's not correct either. It is all about choice that creates the web.
02:41:20.260And again, too, it also links back to what we were talking about before, biological versus moral.
02:41:30.320There is a biological effect and a biological inclination, and what is ultimate is the knightly sense, if you will, is to make choices, but you must consider the moral.
02:41:46.560And stopping to do that before acting, I think, is what makes knights knightly and what makes noble or nobility pertinent is those considerations.
02:42:03.560considerations. The next part is interesting because it it's about burial and even to burial
02:42:13.660of others. And most might think of, you know, say in a movie where they find the dead and they're
02:42:22.100like, we've got to give these people a proper Christian burial or what have you. No, this
02:42:26.500predates christianity and the concept is still the same uh that in in uh 33 i i counsel the
02:42:37.780burial render if thou findest a fallen corpse of sickness dead or dead in the sea or dead of
02:42:44.840weapon wounds bury them now it's also worth remembering because most people might be like
02:42:51.760i thought the vakings burned their dead burial burning burial it actually shifted throughout
02:43:00.640time but being in uh iceland in relation to context uh not a lot of wood to burn burn the
02:43:10.400dead oftentimes they were placed in burial cairns of stone but still the care to take take care of
02:43:21.920the dead is clear right here and i don't think a lot of people would naturally incline that if
02:43:29.680they think that our ancestors were just shoulder pelt uh viking um barbarian face paint this is a
02:43:42.160really important thing because people ask religiously if there's anything special about
02:43:48.320also true treatment of dead and again so much is the thought that counts even if what you're doing
02:43:58.640and what we suggest to do is cremation caring for the body matters our soul has many pieces
02:44:06.800the leak is a part of that the body is a part of that soul complex
02:44:14.160showing care to the dead by washing them combing their hair and clipping their nails is a
02:44:22.640a symbol of the fact that we care and are taking an effort to treat things with reverence and
02:44:35.400respect that matters and that counts um so much so that there's the um and i forget where in the
02:44:46.620lore it's mentioned but um you know the the the hordes of mosfell sail to oscar they're on the
02:44:57.980the like ship made out of the nails of the dead that nobody cared for there is a
02:45:07.500like you are actively helping the forces of chaos by not doing these simple acts of caring
02:45:16.560for our dead. And I think that that's poignant and something for us to remember that taking
02:45:25.620care of the dead is a, is a sacred thing and remembering them and stuff. That's a sacred
02:45:32.500thing. And I don't, again, Swan mentioned the like, oh, we've got to give them a Christian
02:45:37.760burial. I think that's a white folks thing, not a Christian. And I wonder what that looks
02:45:44.160like in different, the different rainbow of Christianity. That was always thought noble
02:45:54.000of our people and that carried on into Christian times. But I wonder if that is a way that
02:46:01.280Asian Christians or African Christians or Semitic Christians, I wonder if they have
02:46:10.580that same taboo when they find things to give them a proper quote-unquote christian burial
02:46:16.740and i'm not suggesting they don't maybe they do but i would be very curious about that because i
02:46:23.320think that is inherently that is certain i don't think i know that that is something that pre-exists
02:46:29.340christian times amongst our folk um so i'm i would be very curious but it's always been something
02:46:36.300very important to our people is the handling of the dead and the reverence for them after
02:46:42.460they've fallen as well like after the burial the celebration and remembrance of the dead
02:46:48.540is something very special and very central to us yeah oftentimes you'll hear you know it's oh
02:46:57.500christianity and its culture but it's like that sprinkling of the babe
02:47:01.020we did that as well long before christianity the the the care of this the advisement of that care
02:47:09.540to not let that happen to just let them rot um and and is express expressively being said
02:47:20.260to sigurd who is a paragon of nobility and virtue in the the norse sense um really really important
02:47:30.180And it also, of course, just lends into getting us a glimpse of practice of our ancestors.
02:47:39.120Because in 34, she says, a bath shall thou give who corpses be.
02:48:15.340Now, that's another kind of blending towards the Draugr, the revenant.
02:48:22.740The idea is that, you know, that they go from this place, that they find Nipah's cave, that they pass through that threshold and do not come back.
02:48:35.880Then a tenth I counsel thee that never thou trust the word of the race of wolves.
02:48:42.200Now, that might confuse people, but it's most likely poetic for, because remember, race is not the word, but it is the family of the wolves or the Varger.
02:48:58.940and that when you look at it in the old north sense the the family of varger most likely is
02:49:06.700opposing clans opposing um anyone you have a blood feud with or in a grander sense your enemies
02:49:16.940just in general but that specific poetic wording of that is more likely lent to the you know the
02:49:24.700family of the varger our varg dropa is your enemies uh if his brother thou broughtest to
02:49:35.660death or his father thou didst fell often a wolf in a son there is though gold he gladly takes
02:49:46.220so your actions against your enemies cannot be appeased later once you take your actions
02:49:53.100you must commit to them being your enemy if you try to pay the were guilds they'll take it
02:50:00.800but that doesn't mean uh that they consider that settled
02:50:07.700uh battle and hate and harm methinks full seldom fall asleep wits and weapons the warrior needs
02:50:20.100if boldest of men he would be you're never far away from danger so bear bear and carry your
02:50:29.260weapons and be ever ready even though you may not be one of hate or of harm or you just must be ready
02:50:39.000um for it in 37 then 11th i read thee that wrath thou shun and treachery false with thy friends
02:50:52.460not long the leader's life shall be for great are the foes he faces
02:50:58.880do not hold and begrudge and beat your kinsmen or your friends in anger and do not lie and be
02:51:11.880treacherous and false and work in mass and nations of power you don't do that with your friends
02:51:17.180and when your your life goes so swiftly you may need to call on them and you will find no one in
02:51:27.000your corner if you act this way specifically the word not long the leader's life so the the leader
02:51:35.080of course the jarl the the um atheling of of the anglo-saxon the the warband leader or
02:51:44.040the one who is surrounded by his things do not fall to wrath and to cunning and um
02:51:53.420And especially if it's not warranted, because when time comes for trouble, you may need backup and you'll find no one there because of your deeds.
02:52:05.380then forth i counsel thee i read thee if thou shalt find a wily witch on the road
02:52:16.280it is better to go than to her guest be though night enfold thee fast
02:52:23.600so this is kind of funny we're kind of going back to the whole
02:52:28.140witch statement um but in this case i think it's worth noting that the uh the witch if you will
02:52:37.800is mentioned as a um one of ill ill working if you know that you have this feeling that there's
02:52:52.200this person that is not good. Don't seek refuge from them. Do not seek refuge from someone
02:52:59.680that has, you know, that is the case. Keep going. Even though the night's coming,
02:53:06.880it's better to push into the night than be in the ensnarement or in the trap of
02:53:14.320of a bolviser, a bale worker, is what the word is used.
02:53:20.720It's translated to witch, but bale worker.
02:53:29.500Eyes that see need the sons of men who fight in battle fierce.
02:53:34.480Oft witches evil sit by the way who blade and courage blunt.
02:53:40.900Now, you could read that in English and be like, all witches are bad. No, the translation is specifically bal visircona, bail working women who are on the side, working against you, and in essence, working for your enemy.
02:54:03.400and they blunt your courage and they blunt your blade you must have eyes to see and I think that
02:54:11.360this has more importance to don't only consider your enemies consider those that orbit them
02:54:18.120consider those that maybe so sit the fence
02:54:54.060So, like we said at the outset, this is one that's got a lot of different bits and pieces that I think many of us have heard before, encountered before.
02:55:09.640And I hope everybody has, you know, gotten something out of the context.
02:55:14.740I know we've kind of taken some asides.
02:55:20.320Do have some more questions in our private chat here that have built up.
02:55:28.820Where do you guys think Frazehoff will be?
02:56:59.200And one of the things that I haven't experienced the same way in a couple of years, but it's always something I really look forward to.
02:57:09.400Jason Gallagher, our longtime folk builder up there, is going to pick me up from the airport and I believe give me a ride out to the Hoff.
02:57:18.140Getting to getting to spend a little bit of time with Jason is always something I really look forward to.
02:57:22.440he's been my friend for a lot of years um i look forward to him picking me up and believe it or
02:57:29.320not i look forward to taking a ride with him um so i look forward to that that's a fun fun thing
02:57:34.680that i always look forward to um i mean all of our hops are awesome so trying to think of something
02:57:42.520that stand out uh there's a lot there there's a and i think you get this to a degree at all of
02:57:54.440our house but in a really special way being alone in the vay at baldur's hof is really special
02:58:02.840it's a very nice spot and it has a powerful a powerful feel to to being there in that space
02:58:15.400that i look forward to something else it's one of my favorite things
02:58:21.320and you gotta hit this just right but you know there's a there's
02:58:25.640noise ordinances and things in town we try to wrap up there relatively early but
02:58:32.840After dark, when the lights are on in the bay and the fire is burning and the lights are on on Baldur's mural, there's these really beautiful, colorful stained glass windows there.
02:58:51.420and if you walk directly out the front door and out to the road you can look in and you can see
02:59:00.060the light coming out the stained glass windows and you can see the darkness all around and the
02:59:07.420trees and stuff but you see this kind of corridor of light going straight through the middle
02:59:13.720through the flame and then up to to balder's mural and it's a really
02:59:20.140really beautiful scene and it's really pretty in a way that you don't quite get the same at
02:59:28.440any of the other hoffs and that's certainly one of my favorite things there um not sure
02:59:36.380the accommodations something else that's always fun there is the the hot tub sumble after party
02:59:41.800deal when you know we have to go back to the hotels that uh or the motel rather that folks
02:59:47.080are staying at um getting to get to spend time with folk there is always a a fun time and a nice
02:59:53.640thing to do i look forward to it you know i it's it's hard because i look forward to all these
02:59:59.880things every year. They're all very special. I look forward to seeing different people at each
03:00:13.200of these places. I've made really good friends and folks that I consider family at all of these
03:00:17.920spots. So it's really nice to get to see them and to check in with them and see, you know,
03:00:24.780how stuff's different you know what improvements have been made on things where things are at but
03:00:30.620checking back in with that is is really special it's pretty and i hope everybody can make their
03:00:36.640way to the hof it's a special labor of love that place it's beautiful all of our hofs are beautiful
03:00:46.140but that hof started out in such a dilapidated condition when we got it and all of the effort
03:00:53.100that our folk have put into taking care of it and making it amazing is you just feel it when
03:01:02.380you're there so i look forward to that um let me find where we're at there there's a couple questions
03:01:16.220we already asked uh why does dragon's blood specifically give wisdom and speech svan why
03:01:28.160does fathnir's blood have magic powers uh 100 i the what the dragon symbolizes is a hoarder of
03:01:40.840of knowledge a hoarder of treasure all of that is uh again attaining that the dragon and what
03:01:51.780it represents as a guardian of that which is unattainable and then to attain it
03:01:58.160and by drinking its blood by doing that you you pass through the threshold of no longer
03:02:06.120having no access to that built-up power, that built-up might, riches, wisdom. I mean, I think
03:02:17.740it's, you know, pretty straightforward how it plays out in the fantastical and in the story
03:02:27.560and why it's so good and uh just cool well why why it's very uh good in storytelling but the
03:02:38.300mythos of it i think is the deeper point is the attainment of the unattainable the conquering
03:11:20.340doesn't make a lot of sense in reality,
03:11:24.420especially when you carry that to its natural conclusion so what we have in in our faith much
03:11:32.540more is the projected reality we have should not will happen but should happen and as long
03:11:40.600as that's the case there's the possibility of of overcoming and having you know
03:11:46.280being able to conquer great odds doesn't always work but it does sometimes work
03:11:53.640And knowing things are coming, part of the magic of what the gods seek is understanding the future so that they can make the best of the circumstances and they can defeat things if they can.
03:12:06.940in our lives, very few things are unalterable. And even the things that are relatively fixed
03:12:17.480are things that we can shift and maneuver one way or another or choose how we meet them.
03:12:25.540Exercising choice. And one of the most heroic things for us to do in life is even when odds
03:12:33.580are very, you know, unfavorable, to still do the heroic thing and stand against overwhelming odds
03:12:43.240is a transcendent act, even if it doesn't, you know, escape a fate that you've been destined for.
03:12:52.440So facing your circumstances with heroism provides you the opportunity for
03:12:59.360making the best chances for victory, but it also is heroic in and of itself.
03:13:08.380And I've said this before, one of the most heroic things is when you come into the world with a
03:13:13.420poor hand that's been dealt you, you playing that hand to the best of your ability and
03:13:21.860beating the odds on the hand that you're dealt is heroic in and of itself, much more so than
03:13:29.100somebody who is, you know, dealt an overwhelming hand and carries it through to its natural
03:13:34.020conclusion, you being able to snatch a degree of victory from Jaws of Defeat is in and of
03:13:44.220itself transcendent and gains great fame and acclaim and sets example and is noticed by
03:13:53.660friends by foes more importantly by the gods
03:14:02.700Matt is the shirt and tie have does shirt and tie have a meaning the
03:14:09.660particular ones I'm wearing right now or in general I cycle through my shirts
03:14:17.820this particular shirt was the one that came up for today if I if I don't I'll
03:14:23.360get stuck in a rut wearing the same few that i like or whatever so i kind of cycle through
03:14:28.560uh it's hot out it's you know still hot out here in reno so it's a short sleeve uh button up and
03:14:34.160i like it based on the fact that he asked a bunch of other questions i think he probably meant
03:14:41.360why are you wearing a tie and shirt sure okay so i will i will answer that after i answer this
03:14:47.600we're reading the Sigurdrifa Mall and Sigurdrifa is a Valkyrie so I chose to wear a
03:14:57.920pretty tie I think that you know lavender with paisleys is pretty and it's one of the things
03:15:08.840that I wear in springtime but I also sometimes will wear this if I'm trying to honor a goddess
03:15:17.180or a female ancestor so yeah i thought it was a a nice way to i don't know make a subtle nod to
03:15:26.360the subject of of the poem that we're reading tonight why do we wear a shirt and tie because
03:15:31.380we are white people practicing a sincere faith there's stuff you do when you when you are serious
03:15:38.040about what you're doing i'm representing the house true folk assembly and i am representing
03:15:43.220Ausatru, so I want to look nice when I'm doing this and treat it seriously. There is a very
03:15:49.920different reaction that all of us have when somebody is looking like a slob or looking
03:15:54.860super casual versus when somebody is wearing a nice shirt and a tie or when somebody is dressed
03:16:02.200in an elevated way for the occasion. It's the same reason you dress up when you go to a formal
03:16:09.440event. It's the same reason our people have always dressed up when they've gone to worship. It's the
03:16:15.180reason that you, you know, wear nice clothes when you go to a wedding or a funeral or church or
03:16:22.240something formal or court or any of the things that you take very seriously or a job interview
03:16:28.540for that matter. You want to present your best self. And right now I'm not, you know, just Matt
03:27:47.940So they're the ancestors of our race of people,
03:27:52.500and that doesn't change when our people go over a mountain range
03:27:56.420or into a different valley, or when linguistics end up changing.
03:28:02.180These are the gods of our folk since the very earliest time that our people existed,
03:28:06.740and they are the gods of our folk now, which includes, you know, white Italian people.
03:28:13.660Again, not refugees that find themselves in Italy, but ethnic Italians.
03:28:19.440well um it's like people that think that
03:28:26.320woden of england and and the word wednesday are somehow not the same as lord odin i was
03:28:34.160actually going to bring that up when we're talking about dragons because the w dropped off
03:28:38.640in the word orm but it survives in english as the word worm and um but to say that
03:28:47.520somehow when the word changes that makes the god different is is wild it's just i think people get
03:28:55.440caught up in the idea that because we're using the germanic or a specific germanic language
03:29:05.200names and we're doing that we've you've spoken about that before continuity was the last stepping
03:29:10.960spot uh before our ancestors again the separation so we you know continue on from there but
03:29:23.440these the gods these are our names for them the gods have been eternal they have been since we
03:29:33.040be. They made us, so. Are you for tolerance? Quakers believe in tolerance for different
03:29:44.200views and beliefs. So, and these are more questions from Bob. He has a number of these
03:29:56.920kind of questions again it it depends the terms as long as there's not conflict with us and what
03:30:09.640we're trying to do certainly um we absolutely realize that our faith is for our race of people
03:30:21.560and that other races of people have different faiths and whereas those don't
03:30:30.520like come in conflict with us and our goals and the things that we are trying to do
03:30:37.000certainly we tolerate that um in a realistic sense in the world that we live in
03:30:44.120we do practice tolerance of course there's many different people with all kind of different
03:30:49.000backgrounds and face and things and we're not in a spot where
03:30:55.880that's not like that's the the viable and and reasonable option where we're at most of our
03:31:03.720parents were not also true uh so yeah we we realize that where the world is at
03:31:10.840and certainly we are tolerant of other people's
03:31:13.720views and opinions whereas those don't conflict with our core values or represent a danger to
03:31:21.560us or to our future or to our children but those are a lot of ifs so tolerance really
03:31:29.460depends on the situation tolerance in and of itself is not a virtue we do not tolerate evil
03:31:37.940things we do not tolerate those that would harm us or would harm our children or would you know
03:31:46.000spit in the face of things that we find honorable and good so no i'm not in a blanket way for
03:31:54.360tolerance yes generally i try to be tolerant of other sincere faiths and good-hearted people
03:32:02.460but that's again very nuanced spawn do you have anything to add about tolerance
03:32:07.680No, I think you said everything. It's just, it's a vague word. And sometimes when people ask things like this, it's the loaded zeitgeist around the word. It would be like, do you support vigilantism?
03:32:25.360and we know that that's a very subjective thing uh people have been celebrating
03:32:32.840luigi mangioni for the last couple months um is you know is he a criminal or is he a vigilante
03:32:42.720again the celebration of um i forgot that non-folk kid's name that killed the folk boy
03:32:52.140at the track meet um but again this it's a subjective word that can be twisted or or
03:33:03.000layered on and and i think it's worth that's why i was kind of like saying
03:33:10.360within our circles yes outside of our circles it depends
03:33:14.960yeah it's that's so and it's kind of like okay so the other two questions that bob asked are
03:48:12.780to Frayer. Thank you very much for that.
03:48:15.200um any thoughts on the Norena Society rejecting the term Alcetru and changing the name of the
03:48:23.720religion to f f foreignam seeth uh I've never heard this term until they started using it
03:48:31.220that's because they made it up um and again people
03:48:37.100people make up stuff that's not I'm not even criticizing innovation
03:48:41.180um i mentioned this kind of earlier in the show
03:48:46.340they're silly everyone wants to be a special snowflake and every new person or kindred that
03:48:59.160gets a couple of people wants to come up with a different name for the different thing they're
03:49:04.100doing and be disunified tearing everything down to yours yep and everything and then cool
03:49:10.980So Norena Society starts at year one, whenever they start. And then when people break off from them, again, year one. That is a recipe for failure all of the time.
03:49:23.920i think it is literally that it is snowflakes wanting to come up with their own branding for
03:49:34.820their own thing so that mark purrier can be the king of his 20 dudes in mom's basements across
03:49:43.480wherever they are rather than being part of something that's working i understand i'm sitting
03:49:52.440in the big chair as the head of the austin true folk assembly i get that i have believed this is
03:49:58.600matter of fact why i joined the afa when i was literally nobody special i was just a member who
03:50:04.920joined in alaska but i joined specifically to not be one of the other you know dozens of startup
03:50:13.960groups that wanted to change what we're calling ourselves and do our own thing i literally told
03:50:20.840the gentleman who wanted to start something with me,
03:50:25.360hey, guys, why don't we just be part of the AFA
03:50:29.300who are already doing this and have been for many years?
03:50:34.300That's what we should put our energy towards.
03:51:37.200I wish they would also join the Astro Folk Assembly and help us all to move forward.
03:51:42.460um but yeah it's uh um it's like as formam save is like to do things the old way way
03:51:59.260yeah yeah the ad is like to do like um practicing the old way to do things the old way
03:52:08.460what does that mean if i bust out my old nintendo and play mario brothers that's
03:52:14.660add for them save i mean it literally is well if i'm plugging in my old like orange thing
03:52:22.540and playing duck hunt that's add for them save um well i was gonna i was kind of kind of
03:52:31.200Well, no, I was going to lean in on that because of the referencing of that, that fornced or fornceder is the pathway of our ancestors, the old way.
03:52:44.140And that's what was said when, you know, Christians asked this.
03:52:49.720But what they were saying is like, why is this person doing this?
03:52:56.220And I think that that actually has a degradation in and of itself. We're doing things simply because that's the way our ancestors did it. And that's a folly that they have.
03:53:11.420The Norena Society will tell you that there is a bloat that needs to be honored at a specific time, because that's how our ancestors did it. But what they're really saying is we have it chronologically written down that a fjord in Iceland was doing this.
03:53:32.740The community in that was holding this bloat at this time.
03:53:39.220So that must mean all of our ancestors were doing that at that time, which is not true at all.
03:53:47.140But on top of that, Ausatru also has a forward and willful meaning of attainment.
03:53:56.140entertainment and just to say it is the old way is and that's ad fornum vague as ad fornum save
03:54:08.620is the old custom yeah that's that is the old way you're doing old-fashioned stuff if you're
03:54:17.500got a beehive haircut and wearing a poodle skirt you're going to the dance as fornum save
03:54:26.460and you are that's literally what it means it's why i like also true is it means you're
03:54:30.620loyal to the icir be this 700 or 1700 or 2025 or 4058
03:54:44.060also true means loyal to the icir that's why it's a better word but again
03:54:51.820they want to come up with something it doesn't even mean ancestors if it did i could at least
03:54:59.060respect that i think a little bit it just means doing stuff old style and i think and they
03:55:07.740they and somebody else mentioned this in the chat
03:55:13.100the narana society does not treat our gods like gods and they don't treat our faith like a religion
03:55:21.820this is a fun history project for them as that name implies about learning about what
03:55:33.200our ancient ancestors used to do back in olden times first that's fun everybody here likes
03:55:43.100history and it's cool to learn what ancient people did doing ancient stuff there are a
03:55:51.260number of hobbies that I really like to learn about. If our faith is not living and our gods
03:55:59.200are not currently existing with us, then this is a tremendous waste of time. At least to practice
03:56:07.420it as a religion. As a hobby, it's fun. There's stuff I love to learn about. But no, this is my
03:56:12.940faith. I believe and am loyal to the Aesir. They exist. They exist now and are aware of us. They
03:56:20.940will exist into the future if we are intentionally confining our practice
03:56:27.740to ancient stuff that is disrespectful to the icia
03:56:35.500as for them saved they didn't go add for them for them save and like wear loincloths and
03:56:46.540do ooga booga caveman stuff well why not because we should do do stuff as the old as possible
03:56:57.900why would we do that in what way logically do our gods exist in this ancient time
03:57:04.700i understand we like viking age imagery i get that but realistically to confine them to that
03:57:11.980period of time is insulting also the norenda society they are very excited about finding
03:57:23.020new wrinkles in things so if we have 10 accounts of things happening one way
03:57:31.660but they find one really obscure account that suggests maybe it was done a different way
03:57:37.180way that's exciting because that's a new theory I don't think that the Norian and
03:57:49.420I don't do this show to speak ill of other people but I do get asked about the Norian
03:57:55.960Society often and I think it's worth saying they're doing it wrong they're doing it wrong
03:58:03.760Because their focus is not on worshiping the gods in a way that is pleasing to the gods.
03:58:11.140Their focus is on pleasuring their own academic fetishes that they have.
04:18:01.060Our gods are above that. Having our gods depicted as gods, I think, is fine. Having them wearing suits and ties or dresses or, you know, appropriate things to the situation, taking the same thing you would do in one of Swan's murals, but making the dress modern and not Viking Age, I think that's completely fine.
04:18:30.360The reason that we don't is it just doesn't hearken to the same imagery.
04:18:36.100We conceive things a certain way, and because we are reading the poems in the context we are reading them in,
04:18:43.840the image that comes to mind that helps us most directly relate to our gods
04:18:49.480is seeing them in period dress that is one-for-one exact with the stories that we read.
04:19:00.460That is the quickest way for us at this stage of our development to relate to our gods.
04:19:08.220And it works, and it matches up, and it's nice, and it fits well.
04:19:15.200But there's nothing wrong in depicting them.
04:19:17.340You know, one of the things I always like is in one of the Icelandic manuscripts, it's got like the gods wearing Renaissance clothes, not because they were trying to be whatever, but they were depicting the gods, you know, as made sense with the fashions they had access to.
04:19:41.680so they're wearing the like renaissance striped like pantaloons the big like puffy pants and the
04:19:48.620like puffy renaissance shirts and the it's it's very much a renaissance depiction
04:19:54.540but it wasn't done to like be different or to be modern or to like make an artistic expression
04:20:02.360that's just when they read acts it was a renaissance acts not a viking age acts when
04:20:08.880they read you know armor armor looked like it did in the renaissance not what we know from
04:20:15.340archaeology as a viking age to armor um so it was interesting to see that but yeah our gods
04:20:22.840ultimately are not any of that that just helps us relate to them in a better uh easier way
04:20:28.920i'm gonna i was gonna send two pictures to um nick to kind of give an example too of what i
04:20:36.960was talking about one about the untimeliness where it's just not specified uh an ancient
04:20:44.660sketch of the tripartite and then also i wanted i'm still looking for the um
04:20:50.100the uh rhodan ovary uh kind of abstract that i was
04:20:56.200but so yeah yeah yeah so uh the next one is is yahweh a yoten
04:21:06.960I ask because Acharya G calls Yahweh an Asherah.