Asatru Folk Assembly - 8⧸6⧸25 Victory Never Sleeps, Episode 161 - Fáfnismál

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00:03:00.000 hello everyone and welcome to this week's exciting edition of victory never sleeps

00:03:13.600 adjust my camera a little bit there it's good to uh be on the show with you guys this week

00:03:24.060 Last week was strange for me.

00:03:26.400 It's always strange when it's a fifth Wednesday of the month and we've got Brandy and the ladies on.

00:03:32.940 It's odd to take a week off from the program.

00:03:38.380 So it's good to be back.

00:03:39.500 It's good to talk to you guys.

00:03:40.640 I know the ladies did a good job last week, but I am excited to be back and spend the evening with you.

00:03:46.780 So tonight we will be covering the Fafnismau, and it's another in the sequence of etic poems that relate to the Volsunga cycle.

00:04:04.540 And so, yeah, this one's kind of cool.

00:04:07.440 I think it's a little bit better put together than last week or than a couple of weeks back.

00:04:13.100 um a couple of oh well okay so you guys can find your place while we're going over top of the

00:04:19.160 top of the show stuff uh volusbow.org nick has a link pulled up there that's where we go over

00:04:27.660 all of our edict stuff and it's where we went over uh excuse me the volsunga saga as well

00:04:36.260 had we have thought about it it's where we would have gone over aegil saga so

00:04:40.960 behold, go check it out. You can read along with us there, or as always, any translation or any

00:04:50.440 copy of the edit that you might have. Other top of the show stuff, as is seemingly always the case,

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00:06:36.340 sigger bloat number three at sigger hame in jackson county tennessee it was a fantastic weekend um 0.95

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00:06:52.980 for anything. It was wonderful. Um, I enjoyed, thank you, everyone who came out, uh, and

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00:07:28.540 you'd like to do but where the where the magic happens is when you get together with others of

00:07:35.420 your folk to stand before the gods united as a folk in faith with your brothers and sisters of

00:07:43.020 the afa worshiping our gods together and that's no place better expressed than at our hofs

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00:10:38.280 That said, other announcements before we start the show.

00:10:49.080 And we've been talking about this for some time and we went ahead and recognized three

00:10:56.280 new well newly recognized as a true heroes um the first one was janskega which iron beard

00:11:09.720 who was a uh a norwegian local local farmer and leader in uh freeman with holdings that was a

00:11:21.400 leader in his community and a stalwart worshiper of Aosathor when Olaf Tryggvason was trying to

00:11:34.120 rip our people away from Troth to our gods with fire and sword Yarnskega and men in his company

00:11:43.560 did their best to take a stand and to stay true to the Aesir in an act of trickery when 0.99

00:11:52.680 the king and some of his retainers wanted to, yeah, let's participate in this festival you're

00:11:58.440 doing. Show us into the Hoff. We'll celebrate with you. They got into the Hoff and ripped down the

00:12:05.640 idol of thor and become desecrating the hof and uh yarn skegia stood in defense and was cut down

00:12:14.280 by olav and his men on the steps of the hof defending our gods and for that in his loyalty

00:12:21.400 in the face of death we uh blew him and we honor him henceforth with a day of remembrance i gotta

00:12:28.120 check the calendar now i want to say may the 5th is his day of remembrance

00:12:36.840 may the 9th ah may the night okay that's why okay that's why i had the five in my head

00:12:42.680 i'm sorry i apologize yes may the 9th um also two people that you know much to to

00:12:54.840 my shame i had never heard of until very recently um but also worthy of celebrating as

00:13:04.200 also true heroes and recognizing two swedes from the 15th century which is a way after the viking

00:13:15.400 Yeah, it's a special time for us to honor practitioners of our faith. At this time, the formal practice of our religion had died out and you had these individuals that were called to the gods that sought out relationship with them and worship of them in small, isolated, maybe families, maybe real small group of friends.

00:13:45.400 sins, maybe just as individuals reaching out to the gods and the gods reaching back.

00:13:51.520 Both of these men were devoted and admitted openly on pain of death that they were devoted

00:14:00.720 to the Allfather Odin and they were his men.

00:14:08.680 two men are Eirik Karlsson, no Klaassen, Eirik Klaassen and he'll be honored on June the 13th

00:14:20.120 each years each year and Rackenwald Odia Karl and Rackenwald was

00:14:31.240 at his trial before his execution, he said that he had been a follower of Odin for seven years

00:14:41.360 at that time. So we don't know a great deal about either of those two men. But what we do know is

00:14:48.500 that when on trial in the face of certain death at the stake, they both stood firm that they were

00:15:01.120 followers of Odin and Unrepentant and Alsatruor. And as such, they met their death in the flames.

00:15:09.120 So at a time where very few were doing it, and it was certainly not a popular thing to do,

00:15:15.120 these two men stood loyal to the All-Father under their death.

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00:16:08.300 That is what we've got to start off with.

00:16:12.700 Is there anything that folks should know to prepare for tonight's episode

00:16:19.500 and for diving into the Falfnismel.

00:16:28.320 Yes, I would say just giving perspective.

00:16:31.400 It's not something that you need to know specifically about the piece.

00:16:37.740 Think of it like this.

00:16:40.260 The Volsunga Saga talks about the slaying of the dragon in its entirety, but it doesn't go into detail.

00:16:52.920 However, these three poems are the detail of that specific moment.

00:17:02.760 So, obviously, I missed Reyn's Mold because I was actually in another state, and that was a big snafu on my part.

00:17:17.880 very disjointed poem that's in the Codex Regis, and it doesn't follow, or it follows the old

00:17:34.440 meter, but it's very, very choppy. This one is far more complete, and it follows a very typical

00:17:42.280 old Norse style of poetry where two forces meet and then they have a

00:17:50.120 lore exchange. So this is the exchange between Sigurd and the dragon. He slays the dragon

00:17:59.140 and in the dragon's dying breath, or excuse me, as he's dying, I should say,

00:18:07.780 he um he exchanges wisdom this is for the poet this is also for the audience and then we'll

00:18:18.180 we'll move into the next uh poem which is of the three that kind of focus specifically on this spot

00:18:27.380 so that's it that's all you have to um really know about it is that it's it's a hyper focusing

00:18:35.160 on the timeline of Sigurd at the slaying of Fafnir.

00:18:45.040 All right.

00:18:46.380 Well, Svan, with that, would you like to take us into the text?

00:18:51.580 Yeah, absolutely.

00:18:54.200 Okay.

00:18:54.540 So it does start with an introduction.

00:19:00.840 And there is also some interesting points.

00:19:06.500 So I was mistaken on something.

00:19:10.600 The G sound, like in whether it's Regus or Regis, the G sound has a tendency to cause confusion.

00:19:22.580 And as it currently, by my studying, the G sound like in the word nipa or here in the beginning, it says nita heath.

00:19:36.560 I would normally silence the G, but I've come to understand that it was actually pronounced.

00:19:42.760 So it would be genita heath.

00:19:46.880 um so uh g's funny because it makes almost a silent sound depending on where it's at

00:19:55.240 sometimes it makes a g noise it often makes a hard k noise yes like in uh in uh rockenwald

00:20:04.620 or how it's spelled is rag and rag with a g and um i i saw that you or i heard that you did that

00:20:14.000 And I was like, yeah, this is kind of a point I wanted to make about language and studying languages and attempting to pronounce and looking at modern Icelandic versus Old Norse creates these misnomers.

00:20:33.060 and yeah the the uh and in icelandic and old norse it's funny because it's depending on the

00:20:42.660 age and the text it's interchangeably og or okay yeah or either translates and is acceptable

00:20:52.180 i tend to find that the oh uh was it okay often in the old norse and og in modern icelandic but

00:21:00.820 yes exact same exact same noise yeah and again it's an understanding that uh and we spoke about

00:21:10.820 this on bns about the sagas when simon did was writing down the stories from from poets in the

00:21:20.660 oral tradition he wrote it in latin and the reason why he did that is because at the time

00:21:26.260 time, Nordic culture was trying to figure out whether or not it was going to continue writing

00:21:31.720 in runic or utilizing Latin letters. And there are some works written during that time in

00:21:41.980 Younger Futhark. So that's a really cool time that that was kind of happening. But eventually,

00:21:49.460 No, you're going to do Latin letters. And then it was about which Latin letters would be utilized in certain ways. And so there's this evolution of language. And as Central European languages were affected by Latin, it so too affected the Norse and the Norwegian and the Danes.

00:22:13.840 Um, so there's a constant shift, I think, um, of language. So it's, that makes it difficult as well. And so for any people that are, uh, having problems with pronunciation, or anyone who, um, you know, kind of goes in and says, well, no, it's not pronounced that way.

00:22:38.620 you you have to give people leeway there is there is an absolute valid reason why

00:22:45.100 a lot of folks get things wrong it's okay um and we're you know as we go we are we are learning

00:22:55.160 more and more and going from there but um so we have uh see and i want to do it right now

00:23:04.900 Regen or Rayen, as I would call him. So we have Rayen and he is the smith that forges Sigurd's

00:23:16.600 sword back together, his father's sword. And Sigurd, this was the scene where he grabs the

00:23:25.000 sword and he hits it against an anvil and it breaks, the sword breaks. And then he says,

00:23:32.940 forge it again and he forges it again and then he hits the anvil and it breaks he says forge it

00:23:39.580 again and then the third time of course uh he hits it and splits the anvil and twain so he and uh

00:23:51.980 rayon form this relationship and rayon is secretly malicious he wants the treasure of his brother

00:24:02.380 fafnir who can shape change and has shape changed into a dragon so he wants this treasure and now

00:24:08.940 he finds someone who is perhaps youthful dumb in his opinion um or you know if he fails it's

00:24:20.220 no loss to him and then he can try some other way that's absolutely how he is painted in this but

00:24:27.260 poetic measure doesn't give a lot for um uh hidden meanings so bear that in mind as we go here

00:24:41.340 rayon is going to lead sigurd to the cave where fafner is and he knows exactly how to strike the

00:24:53.580 dragon sigurd says i don't know what we're gonna i've never fought a dragon before i don't know

00:24:58.380 exactly what to do and rayon's like no no you're gonna dig a pit and he's gonna come down for

00:25:03.820 water and you're going to hit him then so he had known this um and was already or perhaps i don't

00:25:14.060 know but it's never mentioned but perhaps he's tried this before uh with other warriors so

00:25:20.540 So ultimately, before we even start, it's worth noting, Reigen and Sigurd are friends, but Reigen is secretly deceptive, ultimately wanting to kill Sigurd.

00:25:40.620 And the way he's going to do that is he's going to consume the blood of the dragon, which will give him superpower so then he can kill the hero.

00:25:50.540 And Fafnir is the dragon who, again, it's never specified that, or it's always a general understanding that Fafnir and Reyn are people, humans, but they have connections to the dwarves and obviously sheep changing magic, etc.

00:26:15.120 era so they are also too akin of an extraordinary beings but they're never mentioned as simply being

00:26:25.200 uh like they're witches or warlocks and this is a strange kind of note this exists in a kind of

00:26:33.360 quasi-mythical time period where

00:26:40.560 things have that golden age element to it to where the gods are walking by hanging out with

00:26:49.800 these beings and wrong them and then are called to account like hey you owe us because you

00:26:55.680 you know killed our brother who was shaped like an otter and these strange things to where

00:27:03.160 they're conceived of as as people in the way that they're interacting but they also interact

00:27:09.920 with the divine like they're on much more of a level of parody with them you see that when when

00:27:16.840 odin is in the story he very much you know there's ooh ah this is you know a god and not just some

00:27:24.120 dude but not so much when he and and loki and thor are dealing with um the family of reagan and uh

00:27:36.440 and fafnir and and an otter so they're in this strange

00:27:44.600 maybe maybe they're dwarves maybe they're some kind of other

00:27:48.360 demigod kind of things they do clearly have the ability to to alter their shape or their hammer um

00:28:03.160 so don't don't get hung up this is a a time where the the realm of men and gods and the other world

00:28:12.200 interact in a more seamless way than they do at present.

00:28:18.380 And while I got the floor, something else worth noting before we get into the text,

00:28:22.240 which we'll get in here in just a second.

00:28:24.380 Ronald Blake donated $25 to the South Africa Fund.

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00:28:42.200 All right. So we set in. Sigurd and Reyn went up to Nita Heath. Now it's worth remembering Nita's kind of, it's almost like a heath on a plateau, but ultimately it's a barren place.

00:29:11.420 It's seen as a more or almost as if I would think if this was done continentally, it would be very similar to lowland Germans going into the Danish area, but that the land was at a rise and then, you know, went into a marsh, more water swamp area.

00:29:41.420 And they go there, and there they found the track of Fafnir, made when he crawled to the water.

00:29:50.180 Then Sigurd made a great trench across the path and took his place therein.

00:29:56.580 When Fafnir crawled from his gold, he blew out venom, and it ran down from above Sigurd's head.

00:30:05.160 But when Fafnir crawled over the trench, then Sigurd thrust his sword into the body and straight to the heart of Fafnir.

00:30:16.920 Fafnir arrived and struck out with his head and tail.

00:30:21.580 Sigurd leaped out of the trench and each looked at the other.

00:30:26.600 And Fafnir said.

00:30:28.620 So this, you don't hear this in the Volsanga saga.

00:30:32.540 This is going into detail in a moment, and I think that's really amazing.

00:30:37.820 It's also worth noting that with Reinsmo and Fafnusmo, there is no indication that this is a different poem.

00:30:49.460 It just keeps going, but the styles are completely different.

00:30:55.240 And that's what makes scholars believe that these are two separate poems could join together, obviously, because of their time in the story.

00:31:05.140 So Fafnir says,

00:31:35.140 in olden times, that the word of a dying man might have great power if he cursed his foe by his name.

00:31:45.720 That's actually written in the poem.

00:31:50.380 So he says instead,

00:31:54.160 The noble heart, my name, and I go, a motherless man abroad,

00:32:01.000 Father I had not as others have

00:32:04.260 And lonely ever I live

00:32:07.240 Fafner speaks

00:32:10.980 If father thou hadst not as others have

00:32:15.940 By what wonder was thou born

00:32:19.440 Though thy name on day of my death thou hidest

00:32:25.680 Thou knowest now thou dost lie

00:32:31.000 So he knows immediately that Sigurd is being deceptive, that he's hiding his name because none can be born without father, without mother, not even the gods.

00:32:48.420 The mortal world is a reflection of the divine world.

00:32:54.200 And so we see the dragon knows immediately that he's speaking of unnaturalness.

00:33:06.660 All right, guys, we have some of these poems here that Svon and I are going to cover this week and in the coming weeks.

00:33:17.440 some of them are short we may lump some together we may do them all individually but we are going

00:33:22.960 to take a little bit of liberties on going on little little side paths when they come up um

00:33:31.600 this i think is a point of really interesting really interesting value that comes to us

00:33:39.520 that there is power in naming something, and also that there is enhanced power and taboos

00:33:57.180 around last words, the last requests, or the utterances of someone in the throes of death.

00:34:06.160 And so I guess last part first, at the moment of death, a couple of really interesting things

00:34:29.400 are occurring. Your soul is in a flux between this world and

00:34:39.400 the next. And you occupy a special place in the matrix

00:34:49.040 between worlds. Also, our speech in our regular life is very much conditioned by

00:35:02.380 the restraints of the conscious mind, by all of the expectations and things that we know,

00:35:15.360 by all of our hesitancies about being embarrassed or about saying the wrong thing or about pretense

00:35:24.480 all of the different governors on our speech on our action that restrict them in a certain way

00:35:32.960 and when we talk about the numinous or the metaphysical or the magical

00:35:37.680 being in a sober and completely straight place when you're talking

00:35:45.500 has a lot of governors that get in the way of magical efficacy.

00:35:52.620 There's something that's channeled.

00:35:56.740 And this is why so many magical things come from the primal.

00:36:03.700 They come from the Ur state.

00:36:06.220 They come from often the lower, and they come in strange ways or through strange ritual. 0.98

00:36:17.020 They come from a deeper part of yourself, or a lot of the power comes from a deeper part of yourself.

00:36:23.920 There's something that I think fundamentally we know to be true. 0.99

00:36:26.920 Um, women tend to be motivated by more of those primal, uh, or alchemically liquid places.

00:36:45.900 they tend to embody those things in a different way and I think it's one of the reasons that our

00:36:54.580 ancestors that it's one of the reasons that women tend to be more associated with that kind of

00:37:02.160 primal magical efficacy I think it's a reason that our ancestors listen to them in a special way

00:37:09.620 where sometimes their counsel on logical or tactical things is different, but their counsel

00:37:16.400 on primal, magical, otherworldly things tends to be more keen oftentimes than men's or certainly

00:37:25.320 more easy to access. There's something, all of these things sound disjointed. I promise there's

00:37:31.920 a method to my madness, even if they seem random, because I'm looping a lot of things together.

00:37:35.780 Before we develop all of our cognitive hure and thought process on everything, we communicate a lot more instinctively.

00:37:50.120 There's a reason that little kids and animals see haints better than adults and rational grown people because they don't have the same restrictions. 0.88

00:38:04.320 And if you'll indulge me one more, and I'm putting it out there, no offense to the developmentally delayed, but it's also part of retard strength. 0.94

00:38:15.320 There's something that happens when you don't have the preconception of what you're supposed to be able to do, and you just do, that you're able to access a reservoir of power that's much greater because it's not conditioned. 0.94

00:38:33.360 You don't have the governors on it. You don't have, you have no idea what you're supposed to be able to lift. You just go and you do what you do because maybe you're mad or maybe you're excited or whatever and see what happens.

00:38:44.420 There's something to that. So when you find yourself intoxicated, when you find yourself in agony or in some kind of an altered state, or at these moments where you're straddling the line between life and death,

00:39:09.840 your connection between that center of power is

00:39:17.560 much less encumbered and I think that we you know culturally what I think has stayed with us

00:39:29.760 besides you know the magic of it all we all understand there's something special about a

00:39:36.080 last request or about somebody getting to say final words. Somebody who's dying getting to

00:39:45.180 have that last burst of will being expressed in Midgard is something we all recognize as having

00:39:54.520 a potency. Also, depending upon what they're going through in that dying process, them summoning up

00:40:04.040 the raw will to express themselves is often such a guttural digging deep into the ur self or the

00:40:19.220 primal strength to get it out it has a potency to it so there's something magically expressive about

00:40:26.000 that. Also, names mean stuff. They're not just convenient ways for us to differentiate or

00:40:39.000 communicate. There's power in a name. It's why one of our big foundational ceremonies in Ausatru,

00:40:47.360 the al-savotny has all that sprinkling of water to affix a name to something makes a difference

00:40:56.760 naming a weapon naming a ship naming something makes it not just a thing but it makes it have

00:41:06.820 a soul now when i say that it doesn't make it have all of the components that make

00:41:14.660 a human soul unless you are naming a child but it makes it something other it separates it from

00:41:24.420 you know this penny that penny oh i've got my pile of swords let me grab one those are all swords

00:41:32.320 but i will relentless there is something different and other that makes it a storehouse

00:41:43.460 of energy, for good or for bad, of luck, for good or for bad. Same with a person. It's why I think

00:41:52.000 it is very important, and I try to make this point often at Sumble. Speak the name of your ancestor.

00:42:02.320 I remember, you know, if I may, and I'm going to anyways, first Sumble I was at was Fawn at

00:42:11.680 winter nights, he was trying to raise a horn to, I think, both of his Icelandic grandparents.

00:42:19.920 But their names didn't come naturally to an English speaker's tongue. They were difficult

00:42:24.800 to get. So it was kind of getting brushed by as, you know, people's kind of, hell. I mean,

00:42:32.140 people were making the effort to say the name, but I stopped and I said, no, what, how do you

00:42:39.520 say their names because i wanted to say them out loud because that has a magical potency much more

00:42:46.680 than hail grandma hail swan's grandma nice gesture and i don't think it's worthless but i think it is

00:42:55.940 greatly enhanced when you use a name our ancestors believed this that's why you don't want to give

00:43:04.780 people to your name because then they can direct energy at you in a special way then they can

00:43:13.500 curse you or whatever they're going to do speaking a name

00:43:22.620 i realize that stuff i even as i'm saying it i realize how much nonsense this might sound like 0.98

00:43:28.780 I promise the thought process makes more sense. I hope some of it clicks to you. It's really hard

00:43:36.000 to express these things in a way that's easily accessible. But when you speak generally,

00:43:44.060 you take a thought or an intention and you manifest it in the world in a different way.

00:43:48.780 Now it's no longer something you're thinking or something you're like projecting in your head.

00:43:53.760 we're vocalizing it other people can hear it the gods can hear it it's spoken into the world

00:44:01.680 when you further speak it and direct it with specificity at a name it also has more power

00:44:11.440 and so all of these different little concepts of

00:44:16.480 of magic and of sending, be it blessing, curse, spell, incantation, are in this couplet of lines

00:44:30.400 that I think, if nothing else, makes this poem a valuable thing for us to read. It's certainly,

00:44:38.320 man i probably read this poem for the first time in 2002 um but this exact sequence has

00:44:46.880 always stuck out to me because it is so important for that and it is

00:44:52.480 rung true to me it ran true to me um

00:44:57.440 almost exactly a year ago just a little bit more a year ago when uh my friend gothi thorgrin passed

00:45:03.600 he was it was one of those processes of dying where he was very out of it and on uh morphine

00:45:13.380 to ease his passing and it was one of those we're just going to wait and let him slip away but he's

00:45:19.540 dying and when I got there to visit him that last time he summoned this

00:45:28.820 uh uncanny and very special like he was way out of it but when his wife informed him that i was there

00:45:38.600 something came over him to where all of a sudden you know he was limp he was just

00:45:44.580 zoned out out of his mind with the different processes of dying and the morphine

00:45:50.560 And all of a sudden he gripped my hand with, you know, a firm manly grip, got clear eyed, looked me straight in the face and he told me something.

00:46:02.020 And then he went back into that, that, you know, that in between space that he was and proceeded with his process of dying.

00:46:11.540 That'll stick out with me for the rest of my life.

00:46:14.080 And it was encouragement and compliment, but it was deeply, deeply meaningful.

00:46:23.740 And it's, you know, it's this same thing, but the Leostab version.

00:46:30.500 But there's a power in those kind of last words that someone speaks on their deathbed.

00:46:36.060 carry on we've made it like oh yeah you kind of dropped it it's like

00:46:50.160 that's a i mean it is a it is a very powerful subject that people don't think about

00:46:57.340 that the attaching of the name the completion of the soul the introduction into the folk

00:47:04.220 And matter of fact, the next part of it kind of lends to that.

00:47:09.000 And we have been so far removed from the significance of it by Christianity and then modernization, you know, the abstraction of the divine that our gods and everything you spoke of has purpose, name, significance. 0.54

00:47:29.520 Then it's replaced with a Semitic God and that God is no longer Yahweh, it's Yehovah, but it's not Yehovah, it's God. 0.72

00:47:37.860 And eventually God is just an amorphous blob. 0.92

00:47:41.160 And now, you know, even the rules that this thing has set are starting to get all grayed.

00:47:49.100 Oh, something funny on that that I just, I'd heard it before, but I don't remember where I ran into it, but it was today or yesterday.

00:47:59.520 the bear was such a potent right totem to invoke amongst our folk in antiquity that they stopped

00:48:10.840 calling it whatever they called it and just called it you know bear which meant like brown one

00:48:18.540 because they didn't want to say its name unless they invoke its you know terrible presence so

00:48:27.020 the original name for what they called bear was, was lost to us.

00:48:31.700 And they replaced it with the lion of Judah. You know,

00:48:35.100 the, the lion became the new symbol for European royalty.

00:48:41.100 And the level of that kind of switchovers, 0.53

00:48:45.240 it's pretty sad and disgusting. Sometimes I think about our heroes that I think

00:48:51.060 we were talking about this at the Hoff is, you know,

00:48:54.600 for some folks to not understand how to bloat i said the first thing i would say is your ancestors

00:49:01.560 but also bloat to our heroes for their sacrifices read about them learn about them uh open up a

00:49:09.240 relationship to them and give them honor and when i read the stories of the heroes um and even the

00:49:17.240 two that you mentioned that were in the 14th century, dying for the Aesir. It's just the

00:49:26.180 cravenness of the usury and all of the trickery that was done and all of the backstabbing. 1.00

00:49:35.760 And Olaf Tryggvorson was at least, you know, he was still a Norseman. So there was a lot of 0.98

00:49:41.380 upfront violence there. But there was also this trickery of sneaking into the hof or waiting for

00:49:47.800 people to hold the festival and then showing up and stealing all of their stuff. Just absolute

00:49:54.240 but as that's the start of our disconnection with significance. And so I think ultimately

00:50:02.400 everybody here should know the reason why you and I go off on these tangents is to reestablish

00:50:08.660 significance, to give context and create the genuine. It's not just a mental note, but it's

00:50:17.960 also a physical note towards why things are important as they are. And I think that's

00:50:23.680 ultimately what we've been doing. Perhaps it's never been expressed, but it should be expressed

00:50:30.020 is that that's why we're reading these poems is to make those reconnections. And I mean, that's

00:50:36.940 a thing that the lore is cool like in and of itself it's neat to know the stories that layer

00:50:45.640 is important and inspirational and educational and fun and just awesome learning the stories

00:50:54.680 of our ancestors is a really special thing in its own right but the reason it's lore

00:51:00.160 and not just cool history or not just cool stories is that it's pregnant with all of

00:51:07.840 these different bits of things that have meaning and connection and deeper application. And so

00:51:14.680 when Svan and I notice those, we try to highlight them and bring attention to them. And hopefully

00:51:23.680 that's hopefully that's useful to the audience well so fafnir the dragon and it never states

00:51:32.220 that he returns to his original shape whatever that that's not even specified exactly so he's

00:51:40.540 in dragon form and he says what is your name who who are you the one that slayed me and uh again

00:51:47.960 the image of the noble heart, the deer, H-A-R-T, in English, heart, is a deer, and deor meant any

00:51:58.960 wild animal, but that eventually fell out of use. But again, anyone who's familiar with European

00:52:07.340 Christian ideologies or iconography of like the white deer or the deer with the cross or the light

00:52:16.120 above its head that doesn't come from christianity that comes from before and he says it with a

00:52:25.160 intended purpose i am the noble heart and then of course fafnir looks at him side-eyed and says no

00:52:31.800 i know you're lying so once he's cornered out of the lie and the deception sigurd drops it

00:52:41.480 Because there's no point in maintaining the ruse with such an observant and cunning enemy.

00:52:51.960 So he goes all in.

00:52:56.420 So Sigurd says, my race, methinks, is unknown to thee.

00:53:03.860 And so am I myself.

00:53:08.480 Sigurd, my name.

00:53:09.740 and sigmund's son who smote thee thus with the sword so imagine this youth he's very very young

00:53:18.060 15 was like the average age that a a man would go on his first uh trading or raiding trip so

00:53:27.880 i could be around in here um but there's another part here he says my race this is a translation

00:53:37.080 Anybody that's used to the runes will know that the runes are separated into three groups called the Aitir.

00:53:46.540 The Aitir are family.

00:53:49.420 And the translation of my race could probably be misinterpreted by people trying to add presentism.

00:53:59.120 But the word in Old Norse is Aitirni, which means my family, my lineage.

00:54:04.660 he's saying i don't think you know the lineage and what he's really saying is the volsungs

00:54:10.260 you don't know of my people but i am myself and i am the son of sigmund so he is sigurd

00:54:20.320 sigmundson and that establishes the the truth of it um and then fafner speaks again as after he

00:54:32.600 He says, I smoke you with this sword.

00:54:36.020 Fafnir speaks and says, who drove thee on?

00:54:40.600 Why wert thou driven my life to make me lose?

00:54:46.180 A father brave had the bright-eyed youth.

00:54:49.280 For bold in boyhood thou art.

00:54:57.420 My heart did drive me.

00:54:59.760 my hand fulfilled and my shining sword so sharp few are keen when old age comes

00:55:09.360 who timid in boyhood be so he said few keen edges are sharpened when uh by old

00:55:21.340 warriors when they are weak and uh easy to bend when they're when they're younger so

00:55:29.900 bravery and boldness if you didn't have it when you were a young man you're not going to have it

00:55:35.500 when you're an old time it's that inherentness of it um so he's really like shining right now

00:55:46.240 I mean, he just slayed a dragon. So I could see it. And he, you know, I started a sketch of the dying dragon with this young lad kind of just very cocky with his hand on his hip and his arm on the sword having conversation because he was able to do it.

00:56:09.060 And Fafnir spoke,

00:56:11.520 If thou mightiest grow, thy friends among, one might see thee fiercely fight, but bound thou art and in battle taken, and to fear are prisoners prone.

00:56:27.000 So he's suggesting that Sigurd is sent forth out of being obligated or being held in bondage.

00:56:40.460 And what that means, too, is whether it's oath bonding or that he is somehow kind of being put to it.

00:56:47.000 And Sigurd says,

00:57:17.000 the glow red wealth and the rings thy bane shall be so now he lays the warning out about the the

00:57:28.560 the treasure which again is not emphasized in the volsunga saga it's not the the element of the

00:57:36.440 curse isn't really there it is in full form here that's a don't be mistaken the volsunga saga

00:57:46.800 is the oldest full narration full in quotation marks narration of the story that we have

00:57:56.000 if it it's expanded on and developed in a different way in the new blumen lead

00:58:02.860 um which maybe if we're feeling froggy we'll do at some point um but none of that's the original

00:58:13.480 source. This is a very old and well understood cycle of poetic understanding. So it's cool to

00:58:23.160 not only read the Volsunga saga to where we have the broad strokes of the story, but these

00:58:29.820 bits of poetry flesh out the tale a little bit more. The curse of the Rheingeld is talked about

00:58:39.260 here, and it's expanded upon greatly in the Niblungenlied, but it's not as, you know, Svon

00:58:47.740 mentioned in the Walsonga saga, so there's those little bits and pieces that we learn here that

00:58:53.100 add a lot of depth to the story that we already went over, but while I have you, if Nick would

00:59:00.780 put it up, Svon and I were talking about the bear imagery of old Europe that's really cool, and for

00:59:07.980 a fun aside i would recommend the following book i think it's really cool i read it a number of

00:59:14.460 years ago i got a lot out of it um and i think it's covers something that folks have not are

00:59:21.820 not typically very familiar with so bear history of a fallen king um and sorry to pull it up on the

00:59:33.580 phone to try to get the author here. Hold on for a second. I apologize. Should have been a little

00:59:41.340 bit more prepared. There's the cool picture by Michael something, but it's too small for me to

00:59:47.900 read. Pastoreau. Pastoreau. The Bear, History of a Fallen King. You will notice the imagery looks

01:00:00.300 very similar to the Thorshoff bear. But yeah, it's a really cool book. It's obscure. I don't

01:00:08.540 know who originally turned me on to it, but feel like I read that in 2014, 2015. And yeah,

01:00:20.100 it's a cool book and it's neat. And it's something that I don't think you're going to encounter

01:00:24.760 in the same way at least in the same depth otherwise so i would recommend folks read that

01:00:30.520 definitely not the first time we've talked about it um on vns because i've had it in my amazon

01:00:35.380 wish list for about a while oh and somebody made a good comment in the chat about king arthur being

01:00:44.080 something that comes to mind uh when talking about mentioning bears and that that goes into

01:00:50.320 to his name. And that's absolutely a thing. So good point and prescient to mention.

01:00:58.900 Yeah. Finding these significances of our ancestors in dichotomy, it doesn't mean we

01:01:07.640 reject some of the good things that Christianity did in unifying our people and moving us forward,

01:01:13.800 But it also allows us to identify and reconnect our significances.

01:01:26.780 All right.

01:01:27.960 So he speaks and says, it's the bane.

01:01:32.320 The bane it shall be of thee.

01:01:35.820 And Sigurd speaks, someone the horde shall ever hold.

01:01:40.220 Till the destined day shall come.

01:01:42.280 For a time there is when every man shall journey hence to hell.

01:01:48.000 And it's written with the double L's, but in the Old Norse, it is not.

01:01:52.460 It is Helyar, the land beyond the veil, the underworld, the shaded land of death, which we have all, you know, in these poems of the synonymousness with hell.

01:02:08.660 uh not just the uh australia but the name itself in the poetry was synonymous with death most

01:02:19.220 likely 12th century 13th century um it it meant death or or you know and the best way to describe 0.97

01:02:28.720 would be to say to someone like oh we're gonna send these bastards to hell that means we're 1.00

01:02:33.740 going to kill them all. So there is this kind of flux there, but I just thought it was interesting 1.00

01:02:39.820 that they, they use the, the double hockey sticks, if you will. Okay. But so Fafnir retorts

01:02:51.420 And he says,

01:03:21.420 and that a sailor who makes folly is fated to drown.

01:03:31.480 A rider who makes folly is fated to fall.

01:03:35.760 A warrior who makes folly is fated to be struck.

01:03:39.380 He's basically saying that the deeds that we weave

01:03:43.360 to find ourselves in the places we are,

01:03:46.140 oftentimes reach us when we you know they take that folly that's the one time the one time you

01:03:54.060 didn't check the corner the one time you you know just didn't quite do what you were supposed to do

01:04:02.300 and you slip up or there's that just the chance of that um but all danger is near to death so living

01:04:10.700 a life uh cushy or or hid away um was absolutely seen as you uh kind of an avoidance but also

01:04:22.460 the greatest loss because without the risk there was no reward

01:04:29.740 um and sigurd speaks back tell me then fafnir for wise thou art famed and much thou knowest now

01:04:38.780 Now, who are the Norns, who are helpful in need, and the babe from the mother bring?

01:04:51.980 Of many births the Norns must be, nor one in race they are. 0.76

01:05:00.280 Some to gods, others to elves, are kin, and Dvalin's daughters, some.

01:05:07.380 Now, this might confuse a lot of people because they're thinking the Nornir, the witches, are the Nornir that we speak most of.

01:05:19.740 But it is worth noting that the word Nornir and Visir are very intertwined, especially in their meaning.

01:05:27.820 And what he's referring to is the holders of fate, the twisters of fate. 0.79

01:05:33.280 This is the exact reason why Holy Freya is called a Vana Dis. She's the Disir, or the Nornir, of the Vanir. And Valkyries are often referred to as Disir, or Norn. 0.92

01:05:51.540 they have the ability to interject into the moment of someone's fate or they are there at the most

01:06:00.260 important part which is at the end there it's a great sense of mystical power so a linguistic

01:06:07.860 point about norns um norn is cognate to witch but not in like a wart on the nose flying around on a

01:06:23.140 broomstick um uh mutation of it um but that we've been over this a couple of times but

01:06:36.660 But in our lore, there are these broad terms that there's like the Nornir, the big three, Earth for the Indian Skull, that we're all very aware of.

01:06:48.180 But then there's a variety of other Nornir.

01:06:52.760 There is the concept of, you know, little in Nornir, as it were, generally with people as Nornir, also with Dees.

01:07:01.260 Dees means goddess.

01:07:02.580 It also means priestess.

01:07:05.400 it means both of those things, which is really interesting. All of, you know, the female Vanir

01:07:13.880 are Deesir in the sense that they're goddesses, but Freya is the Vanadis with a big D, I guess.

01:07:25.260 So it's, I realize what I just said, I apologize. That's not what I was going for, but yes. So

01:07:33.600 So we have these overlapping terms, just like when we talk about the Yotnar, there are a lot of different varieties of what that means, depending on the context that it's used.

01:07:48.100 Something else I wanted to mention, too, a little bit with that.

01:07:52.160 It's interesting that when we see these elements of our lore, you think of a dragon as being physically potent.

01:08:06.800 You think of a giant as being physically potent, which certainly they are.

01:08:12.160 But both of these kind of creatures speak to a deep age, a deep wisdom, a wisdom in language, a wisdom in magic and spellcraft that makes them particularly potent, not just physically imposing, but imposing in their arcane wisdom.

01:08:36.540 And I think that's something that, you know, a lot, maybe the casual participant may not be familiar with or may not think about.

01:08:47.620 So, well, in this part, too, he says, who are the Norns who are helpful in need and the babe from the mother bring?

01:08:57.240 There's the idea of either the physical doula or midwife, which in that stanza alone, my youngest son was brought into the world here at our home with three women, definitely lowercase n, nornier. 0.72

01:09:20.600 One was older, one was in the middle, and one was younger.

01:09:24.380 It was very, very mythical, even though it could be simply just as skewed as the mundane.

01:09:31.640 But it's noted here, and he says, and the babe from the mother bring.

01:09:39.180 The Nornir are associated with, even in a good light, that they are asked in need.

01:09:48.640 Now, is this the lowercase or the large, the capital N?

01:09:54.380 either way you call in you know the the wise old women of your tribe to help with childbirth

01:10:01.820 um in a home birth situation in a rural situation today in any situation at this time

01:10:10.700 but we also make offerings to the nor near when when a baby's born and what we do in naming um

01:10:16.700 In both senses, there's a relevance there.

01:10:21.780 Well, and he states, too, it is not amongst one family or group of gods.

01:10:31.440 The gods have them.

01:10:33.160 The elves have them. 0.97

01:10:34.400 And Dvalin's daughters, which is a kenning for the Svartalf, the swarthy elves or the Dvergar of the earth.

01:10:46.700 And then he retorts back, Sigurd says, well, tell me, Fafnir, for wise thou art feigned and much thou knowest now.

01:10:58.900 How call they the isle where all the gods and serp shall sword sweat mingle?

01:11:09.000 Sword sweat, of course, meaning the gripping of a handle battle against each other, or the sword sweat also being blood.

01:11:20.520 So where will they battle?

01:11:23.220 And Fafnir says it's oskopnir.

01:11:26.780 is it where all the gods

01:11:31.100 shall seek the play of swords.

01:11:35.500 Bilrost breaks when they cross the bridge

01:11:39.300 and the steeds shall swim in the floods.

01:11:45.140 Now, Bilrost generally

01:11:47.000 is viewed as a

01:11:50.000 of Bivrost,

01:11:55.160 the bridge. Though some have argued that it is another name, or not another name, but

01:12:03.520 like a poetic name, as there are perhaps multiple names of Yggdrasil, and Yggdrasil itself is

01:12:11.800 a poetic name. So there's kind of a toss-up on that, but he means Bidrost. So he says,

01:12:18.380 is where the gods

01:12:23.940 shall play with swords

01:12:26.140 and Bifrost will break

01:12:28.420 when they cross the bridge

01:12:29.820 and the steeds shall swim

01:12:32.800 in the flood.

01:12:40.220 Fafnir,

01:12:41.600 did I miss that

01:12:43.020 or did that go?

01:12:45.300 We are on

01:12:46.300 15 correct

01:12:48.720 okay

01:12:53.260 so 16 goes

01:12:55.100 in continuation

01:12:58.620 to what Fafnir said

01:13:00.320 the fear helm

01:13:03.740 I wore to

01:13:05.420 affright mankind

01:13:06.740 while guarding my gold

01:13:09.180 I lay mightier seemed

01:13:11.300 I than any man

01:13:13.260 for a

01:13:14.400 for a fiercer, never have I found.

01:13:18.440 So he's speaking about the helm of fear.

01:13:21.280 Many people might know this in the later Viking age

01:13:24.500 with the symbol of the helm of awe

01:13:26.700 or the helm of terror as a symbol.

01:13:30.300 Nick, can you find that for us, please?

01:13:33.320 And thank you.

01:13:34.900 Yeah, the helm of terror, the helm of awe

01:13:39.960 is utilized a lot in regarding the Viking Age,

01:13:44.980 but it's technically incorrect.

01:13:46.960 It's not in the Viking Age.

01:13:48.200 It follows after.

01:13:50.040 However, it does have connection linguistically

01:13:55.360 and most certainly by item

01:13:58.600 in what Faulkner is referring to here.

01:14:02.440 Flag of the play.

01:14:03.440 Whoa, so that's really hard to see

01:14:05.360 because it's in black and it's overlaid on us.

01:14:10.760 But yeah, if everybody can see that, it's a really common thing that I'm sure everybody's seen.

01:14:16.800 Something that I would like to say.

01:14:19.800 And you may have heard me say this on here before.

01:14:28.040 Anseus is not a vertical line with two diagonals coming off of it.

01:14:33.560 Anseus is the mystery of the Aesir as they speak existence into being.

01:14:44.100 It is personified, it is embodied in the picture of a vertical line with two downward diagonals coming from it.

01:14:54.720 The Helm of Awe is absolutely a Viking Age and a Golden Age thing.

01:14:59.280 the august helmer as depicted as the snowflake design that you see before you is a medieval

01:15:07.180 sigil but it is a sigil for the spell that we are talking about in this antiquity that

01:15:15.420 we're speaking of when we're talking about any kind of sigil magic be it this or be it

01:15:22.620 the runes themselves, it's important that any of us can draw stick figures. It doesn't

01:15:31.200 make them magically empowered. They become magically empowered when we, what is, so there's

01:15:45.760 probably some really cool spooky bit keywords for this stuff that i don't possess

01:15:54.400 but there's something to be said when you talk about rune magic

01:15:59.040 people carve runes all the time for writing stuff but there's something when you read in about

01:16:06.320 knowing how to carve them and then knowing how to redden them with blood there's different things

01:16:11.600 you do to i don't know to charge them to awaken the magical efficacy within the symbols

01:16:23.280 but again you are calling upon a concept or a spell or something from the ether

01:16:30.320 and you are birthing it into midgard in a variety of forms one of which is these magical sigils

01:16:37.040 that we see as the runes or that we see as the August Schallmutter in the snowflake design.

01:16:45.320 But I think it's important when people are like, aha, gotcha, that's not a Viking thing.

01:16:50.160 The picture might very well not be, but the concept and the spell that it embodies absolutely is.

01:16:58.700 So it's really important to be able to, and just as Svon loves the tripartite,

01:17:04.700 Our law speaker loves the term bifurcate. We need to bifurcate the concept of the symbol from the mystery that the symbol represents. And like many things I've said tonight, it may sound ridiculous. It may not make much sense right now. I hope some people are tracking and I hope it is useful to some folks. And it makes sense in my head if that holds any value.

01:17:30.500 yeah and that's what i was trying to say is that there are people that will come on the internet

01:17:35.780 and say oh it was a medieval talismanic no there's clearly connections that go further back

01:17:43.700 and this uh the symbology of it morphs as our people went forward um also i wanted to say to

01:17:52.880 witch master in the in the comments yeah we were talking about the norms with the capital n as of

01:18:00.080 course the nornir they the the past the present the future or the that more correctly would be

01:18:06.560 the past present and that which is indebted by your deeds scold but we were also talking

01:18:14.200 the reason why he says not one race are they amongst is because he's speaking that

01:18:20.280 even the dwarves even the elves and the gods themselves by the mighty three uh contain

01:18:28.780 these wise women these twisters of fate it's just if you read lore and you see kind of a lower

01:18:39.800 case more near it may cause some confusion a lot of people think um or can't differentiate

01:18:47.680 all of that so that's really why we're we're bringing that up um but here we see

01:18:58.080 uh he speaks of the helmet and he speaks of the hell the fear helm um the spec the specified way

01:19:09.440 that people look at this when they read it is that it is a helm an actual helmet um

01:19:16.880 and that's because of translations i uh it is

01:19:23.780 looking at the story and wondering is the dragon a man

01:19:30.020 does he wear a helmet or is the dragon a dragon it's fine i have a question is

01:19:38.620 where we get a lot of those symbols is that the galdrabok yes the galdrabok uh was a

01:19:47.020 population of sigils a lot of the sigils in there

01:19:51.420 are like you would put them subtly on something or you would carve them there's

01:20:00.660 a couple of them that were cool for like wrestling and you'd put them at different

01:20:07.260 parts like on your shoe or in your shoe you'd have one like on your heel and one like on the

01:20:11.980 ball of your foot for the uh gleema uh like wrestling runes so i mean the way this reads

01:20:21.940 he could put on a helmet but then does the helmet change shape when he becomes a dragon or when he's

01:20:27.420 a guy or how does that work right or it could simply be something a talisman or a thing that

01:20:33.440 is carved into or drawn upon or worn upon his head right um or it could be something that slipped

01:20:41.280 inside of a helmet like some of those spells would be things you'd put inside your hat just

01:20:46.400 like you'd put something inside your shoes so there's probably a lot of different ways

01:20:50.960 you could imagine this i don't know that one's better than the other

01:20:57.120 yeah and um oh and uh jilly just brought up a great point she thought it meant

01:21:03.040 the helm of a ship like the the the steering uh the the wheel of a ship um no so

01:21:13.760 i was gonna say that's cool i don't know if that linguistically

01:21:22.960 i don't know if that word had meaning in that context in that time yeah in technology they

01:21:29.600 didn't have that yet well i'm saying but was did that word mean something else and it evolved to

01:21:35.120 be the steering wheel which ironically looks like the symbol um but like are you still a helmsman

01:21:45.360 if you're the guy that's manning the rudder or i'm not sure how that works in naval stuff

01:21:53.120 Svon, being a Marine, I'm going to call on you to know.

01:21:58.020 I was a little familiar with one, and it's the birthing or the gym.

01:22:03.500 It kept us locked in the bottom of the ship.

01:22:07.000 To break down the word, Hjalmar means helm or helmet.

01:22:12.580 Specifically, the Brit, or, yeah, Hjalmarth is the brim of a helmet.

01:22:19.620 So it's Hjalmarth is helmet.

01:22:20.920 and aegis the first part is literally greek i don't know how it got to an icelandic word it's

01:22:26.540 greek it means shield well that might be or i'm assuming it is because aegis is is greek for

01:22:34.760 shield yeah that might be a translational thing that you're reading the also keep in mind greek

01:22:42.960 and Old Norse have similar roots.

01:22:46.960 Sometimes you find things that manage to

01:22:50.880 hold on or even have different meanings but keep similar spellings

01:22:54.840 in different branches. Specifically the agus

01:22:58.600 is a piece of cloth and in other myths

01:23:02.840 a shield, animal skin that was carried by

01:23:06.840 Athena and Zeus, sometimes featuring the head of a

01:23:10.980 organ well so when you're translating old norse and when you're translating anglo-saxon you'll

01:23:18.340 notice that there are quite a lot of uh loan words that probably came in before christianity

01:23:24.980 but it's worth noting that the the idea of a shield or the roundness again as as herger was

01:23:31.380 saying a symbol placed upon the head or of the dragon or an actual helm that's kind of where i

01:23:40.580 I was going with this initially, but it all lends to what was written in the Golderbach is often

01:23:48.620 scoffed at as being, you know, Christian hermetic magic. It's not the real, it's not based on

01:23:58.060 anything our ancestors did. There's this internet movement to try to disconnect,

01:24:02.240 but nothing comes out of a vacuum there is linked points that show us this drawing of

01:24:11.240 perhaps the the way that it was drawn has changed certainly symbols do that we see that with every

01:24:17.720 futhar um but i don't think it's right for us to disconnect and say well you know that's you know

01:24:26.080 certainly not of the Viking age by time, but it is not somehow separated or an interloping thing

01:24:35.540 like hermetic magic from medieval times, et cetera, that a lot of people try to do in order

01:24:41.440 to kind of ultimately just try to get power over people. But no, he says

01:24:49.980 um the uh that he wore the helm oh sorry i'm sorry to interrupt swan on the etymology what

01:25:00.060 i'm finding on on uh is is it comes from it's the indefinite genitive singular of uh a year

01:25:12.780 as in the husband of rome oh see again i you know they're focusing in on that and i i the the title

01:25:25.600 of a year as all the gods have titles the furious one etc uh i was always of of uh understanding

01:25:35.260 that it was like the flat plane or the flatness like i could understand how it might be associated

01:25:43.980 with a shield but it was also to just the the no land in sight if you will flatness um

01:25:55.980 but he says to sigurd i wore this helm to to ward off everyone

01:26:02.860 and Sigurd speaks he says the fear helm surely no man shields when he faces a valiant foe

01:26:12.140 oft one finds when the foe he meets that he is not the bravest of all

01:26:19.900 venom i breathed when bright i lay by the horde my father had

01:26:26.300 there was none so mighty as dared to meet me in weapons nor wiles i feared

01:26:34.620 glittering worm thy hissing was great and hard didst thou thy heart but hatred more

01:26:42.620 have the sons of men for him who owns the helm so now he's he's saying that he wore it

01:26:53.500 to fend off but it was it was the very challenge of slaying him and slaying that ward and beating

01:27:02.500 the ward that drew men to him. Fafnir spoke, I counsel thee Sigurd, heed my speech and ride thou

01:27:17.980 So, homeward hence, the sounding gold, the glow-red wealth, and the rings thy bane shall be.

01:27:31.020 Leave here, don't take this, even though I am dying and I cannot have it.

01:27:37.040 Do not take it with you, because it will be your bane.

01:27:40.120 Thy counsel is given, but go I shall, to the gold in the heather hidden, and Fafnir thou with death dost fight, lying where hell shall have thee. 0.82

01:27:56.400 rayon betrayed me said fafner and thee will betray us both to death will he bring his life

01:28:10.680 methinks must fafner lose for the mightier man was thou so now he admits

01:28:18.540 directly he knows that rayon is the one that prodded him forward or ultimately

01:28:27.920 prodded all of the the the slayers to come in and attempt to kill him and he says 0.99

01:28:35.740 now that you have succeeded he will slay you too 0.86

01:28:39.320 and there's a little interjection there uh and we know it because it doesn't follow the meter

01:28:48.540 He says,

01:29:18.540 thou, methinks. Sigur

01:29:22.340 speaks, unknown it is when all are together

01:29:26.560 the sons of the glorious gods. Who

01:29:30.380 bravest born shall seem. Some are valiant

01:29:34.180 who read in no sword, in the blood of a

01:29:38.140 foeman's breast.

01:29:41.980 So, one, obviously the sons of the glorious

01:29:46.260 gods of course the folk is what he's he is referring to and he says unknown when they're

01:29:52.320 all together um who the bravest shall seem some are valiant who read in no sword in the blood

01:30:00.280 of their enemies rayon speaks glad art thou sigur the battle gained as gram with the grass thou

01:30:12.340 cleanest my brother fierce in the fight hath slain and somewhat i did myself

01:30:21.940 so and i helped

01:30:27.300 it's kind of i don't know why i always view that stanza you did great and fought my brother who

01:30:33.220 was terrible and i helped it was a stinking bacon i help yes and he puts his foot up on

01:30:42.340 uh sigur speaks afar didst thou go while fafnir reddened with his blood my blade so

01:30:51.300 with the might of the dragon my strength i matched while you in the heather distied

01:30:57.300 a longer that wouldst thou in the heather have let yon hoary giant hide had the weapon availed

01:31:09.220 not that once i forged the keen edged blade thou didst bear so he's in essence saying he's been

01:31:18.660 hiding he's been hiding in that tree line for a long time but he's the one that forged the blade

01:31:23.060 the only blade that could kill the dragon sigurd spoke

01:31:31.700 better is the heart than a mighty blade for him who shall fiercely fight the brave man

01:31:40.020 well shall fight and win though dull his blade may be brave men better than cowards be

01:31:48.100 when the clash of battle comes and the better the glad than the gloomy man shall face what before

01:31:56.560 him lies. Thy reed is what it was that I should ride hither over the mountains high to the

01:32:06.220 glittering worm would have wealth and life if thou hadst not mocked me my might.

01:32:18.100 So this part here he's saying clearly, too, is that, yes, the bravery of a warrior is far better than the weaponry, which is kind of interesting in juxtaposition to warfare now being fought from cameras and buttons and such.

01:32:39.440 Um, but he's speaking about true warrior hood and that even the dull bladed sword is used well in the hardened heart of a warrior.

01:32:52.940 But he also says that men should not be gloomy, but glad no matter what their fate lies before them, that they should again.

01:33:03.440 And this harkens back to the Halvamel, that a warrior must or should lead his life with happiness upon his face despite what may come before him.

01:33:16.840 And we find that a lot, I think, in military humor, but also to just the poetic humor of warriors meeting their end with a smile and a joke, I think is very entrenched in the ethos of our society.

01:33:35.840 um so he said did mock me though and that's something that the that happens in the whole

01:33:45.380 saga rayon mocks him and says that he's you know not strong or he's he might be too scared to fight

01:33:54.780 this dragon so that's what he he mentions here is thy reed r-e-d-e which is council or when you're

01:34:02.880 conversing with each other. Thy reed it was that I should ride hither over the mountains high

01:34:08.320 heaped to here to the glittering worm would have health and life if thou hadst not mocked me that

01:34:14.780 night. If you hadn't have prodded me, I would not have known of the dragon to come and slay.

01:34:23.640 So then Reyn went up to Fafnir the dragon

01:34:30.020 Cuts out his heart with his sword

01:34:33.320 That was named Rithil 0.63

01:34:36.120 And then he drank blood from the wounds

01:34:40.260 And Reyn said

01:34:42.260 Sit now Sigurd

01:34:44.500 For sleep will I

01:34:46.820 Hold Fafnir's heart to the fire

01:34:49.020 For all his heart shall eaten be

01:34:53.240 since deep of blood i have drunk and this sets a precedent as well because soon we're going to

01:35:00.800 find out the power of the blood and sigurd is going to fight find it out but rayon is the first

01:35:08.760 to quench uh the blood down and he in essence is gaining that but even he still being crooked

01:35:18.220 still being cowardice, the blood doesn't help him enough because that's the point being reiterated is the better powers, the better sword, all of that falls short if it's not powered by a genuinely brave and noble heart.

01:35:48.940 So Sigurd takes the heart.

01:35:51.020 He cooks it on a spit.

01:35:53.640 When he thought it was fully cooked and the blood foamed out of the heart,

01:35:58.060 then he tried it with his finger to see whether it was fully cooked.

01:36:01.540 He burned his finger and put it in his mouth.

01:36:06.580 But when Fafner's heart blood came to his tongue,

01:36:09.840 he suddenly understood the speech of birds.

01:36:13.220 he heard the nuthatches, the type of bird,

01:36:17.600 chattering in the thickets, and the nuthatchat said,

01:36:22.400 Oh, there sits Sigur, sprinkled with blood,

01:36:26.640 and Fafner's heart with fire he cooks.

01:36:30.080 Wise were the breaker of rings I wean

01:36:32.580 to eat the life muscles all so bright.

01:36:38.340 Then Rayan lies and plans.

01:36:40.640 he lays and the youth to betray who trusts him well which i doubt that but he doesn't seem to

01:36:49.500 trust him that well uh lying words with wiles will he speak till his brother the maker of

01:36:55.300 mischief avenges so the birds are are saying that you know here's this young youth he he just trusts

01:37:06.720 this person, but 0.96

01:37:08.740 he is going to kill him. 0.99

01:37:12.480 So first, it is awesome that 0.93

01:37:14.800 Svan is making voices for each of the

01:37:16.780 characters. That entertains

01:37:18.780 me. Don't you dare stop. You are obliged

01:37:20.840 now to continue.

01:37:23.940 Also,

01:37:25.540 Rithil,

01:37:26.620 the sword,

01:37:28.520 I looked up the name and I can't find

01:37:32.920 its old

01:37:34.800 norse meaning it's modern icelandic meaning is it's like a piece of wood that's used to tie up

01:37:42.000 nets that's the best i can get on it i tried to look it up because i find that interesting again

01:37:49.920 names matter yeah and i wonder too because there is connection the net otar there's the net that

01:37:57.680 they use to take the the dwarf that hides the gold and again this guy's shifty and is

01:38:05.680 about weaving stratagems and such so i think there may be something to that as well but it's

01:38:16.160 just kind of a point of interest yeah i was looking for it over here and i can't seem to

01:38:22.480 lock it in um but yes the uh r-i-ed's i double l i think

01:38:34.080 yeah it was just the the sections on the left don't always link up with the right

01:38:38.800 so i was looking in the paragraph to see where it is and i can't seem to find it

01:38:51.520 yeah it's not uh rithal is not there oh it's funny because yeah it's just got

01:39:01.840 uh yeah and then you got 31 and then in the section there underneath it it doesn't mention

01:39:13.920 Okay, but it does underneath say it means swift moving.

01:39:20.720 Oh, in the annotation.

01:39:22.200 Or he calls the sword serpent.

01:39:25.020 Ah.

01:39:26.000 Which, again, I'm curious where they're taking that from.

01:39:28.640 I don't see it over on the side either.

01:39:30.240 I think that's a fun aside or rabbit trail for folks to go down.

01:39:36.600 So the birds speak in their voice.

01:39:43.920 sorry it's the storytelling that you know comes out on this but um uh and then a third bird speaks 0.80

01:39:52.080 and says less by a head let the chatterer horry go from here to hell then all of the wealth he

01:40:01.760 alone can wield the gold that fafnir guarded so he's saying he could also turn the tide and then

01:40:11.520 or uh that rayon's motive is to kill the slayer of the dragon to take the gold for himself

01:40:19.040 but he could turn it against him and the fourth concurs he says wise would he seem if so he would

01:40:26.700 heed the council good we sisters give and that's an interesting point there as well we were talking

01:40:35.100 about the nornir and the the idea even though they go into four birds but the point of it is

01:40:43.260 the sisters the usage of the feminine clearly right there is a again a speaking of the power of

01:40:51.740 of destiny and the power of um laying out uh prophecy through the the feminine and uh he they

01:41:04.300 say you know he would be wise if he listened to us and and then he would live and be able to take

01:41:10.300 the gold for himself if he only understood us of course the dragon's blood has given him that

01:41:17.100 ability um so he's wise would he seem if so he would heed the council good we sisters give

01:41:26.060 thought he would give and ravens glad and there is ever a wolf where his ears i spy so you know

01:41:34.220 In other words, you know, he, he will feed the ravens, he will feed the wolves.

01:41:44.260 And I wonder about this too, because the, the actual, the birds in the stanza, I wonder if it's just speaking of birds noting an alarm around wolves and ravens, or if that one was specifically culturally understood to be a sign.

01:42:03.460 like when you hear them going off there there's a wolf nearby but the the correlation of him

01:42:11.180 gladdening the ravens and uh and that whenever they speak or whenever they chirp there is always

01:42:19.940 a wolf near and they're speaking clearly about about ray and being the wolf um but yes and and

01:42:29.160 Down in the bottom, I saw the annotated part said, it's very similar to where there is smoke, there is fire.

01:42:38.300 So wherever there is an alarming bird, there is a wolf.

01:42:42.220 So guys, this is dumb and should go without saying, but because me and Svon both didn't do it on a couple of things. 0.64

01:42:50.060 if you're reading 0.81

01:42:52.060 velispow.org

01:42:53.700 they've got cool translator

01:42:56.180 notes in orange

01:42:57.840 at the bottom of the page and they really

01:43:00.100 do add a lot

01:43:01.640 sometimes I get

01:43:04.220 going with the story and I'm just listening and

01:43:06.140 doing other things and I forget to look there first

01:43:08.340 but it's pretty

01:43:09.520 in most of the things we've read

01:43:12.020 it's pretty rich in like

01:43:13.920 little bits and pieces it adds

01:43:16.040 so I would encourage everybody to kind of take a look at those

01:43:18.360 so the and the birds continue on they say uh in 36 less wise must be the tree of battle

01:43:30.580 the tree of battle is a kenning for a warrior less wise must be the tree of battle then to me

01:43:38.440 would seem the leader of men if forth he lets one brother fair and when he of the other the slayer

01:43:47.080 is. Most foolish he seems if he shall spare his foe the bane of the folk. There Rayad lies who 0.98

01:43:57.280 hath wronged him so, yet falsehood knows he not. That's an important piece of wisdom that

01:44:04.280 I think rings true today. Maybe not quite as much as it did then, but certainly

01:44:14.820 um and i think this is you know a commonly referred to an epic poetry thing but

01:44:23.020 there is the very high in the list of priorities is avenging kinsmen

01:44:31.060 and so if you you know if you kill one guy and he's got brothers or he's got sons out there

01:44:39.000 keep one eye open because there's going to be people out there that are going to for the rest

01:44:45.780 of their life be looking to get vengeance on you well and also to to take the youth

01:44:54.300 the warrior and give him a weapon to slay his brother that's a lesson maybe that sigurd is not

01:45:04.420 quite old enough yet to understand the gravity of it but then the birds are saying he will get

01:45:11.060 his vengeance for and that's the other thing i didn't slay my brother you slayed my brother

01:45:16.840 i just told you how you might do it if that's something you wanted i didn't know you were

01:45:22.920 gonna do it i'm gonna forge the sword yeah there's a yes there's a vengeance now playing with

01:45:33.640 technicalities and stuff at play here so yes and he also says it's it's very much like don't lie

01:45:46.000 amongst snakes don't uh make friends of your enemies and here rayon is lying down he he's

01:45:55.880 sleeping or he's looking like he's he drinks from the blood so he gains the power that his soul can

01:46:02.940 achieve even though it's very crooked and uh has got as many holes as in as a

01:46:09.260 uh a thing with a lot of holes in it no um like what is it a colander yeah he's got a soul like

01:46:18.720 a colander and all of that stuff's flowing through it um sigurd gets just a taste and suddenly

01:46:24.840 he realizes the guy that's sleeping behind him or pretending to sleep behind him is not um

01:46:33.360 he's not weak he's not he is very much an elevated threat um and the seventh speaks

01:46:44.340 let the head from the frost cold giant be hewed now here in this poem he is clearly referred to

01:46:55.200 as a jotun or of the of the jotnar um as nomenclature but nowhere else is that really ever

01:47:06.620 mentioned as to whether there are clearly not just mortals but no one in the story really is

01:47:13.720 um but they say let the head from the frost cold giant be hewed and let him of rings be robbed

01:47:21.660 Then all the wealth which Fafnir was

01:47:24.940 Shall belong to thee alone

01:47:26.960 And then Sigurd says

01:47:30.440 Standing swiftly

01:47:32.320 Not so rich a fate shall Rayon have

01:47:36.100 As the tale of my death to tell

01:47:38.720 For soon the brothers both shall die 1.00

01:47:41.460 And hence to hell they go 1.00

01:47:43.000 And he turns around and he cuts off Rayon's head 0.96

01:47:46.540 Because Rayon was standing right behind him

01:47:50.000 So Sigurd hews off Reyn's head and then he ate Fafnir's heart and drank the blood of both Reyn and Fafnir.

01:48:01.060 Then Sigurd heard the nut hatch say.

01:48:03.960 So it's never mentioned before, but I think it's worth noting that perhaps the reason why it was mentioned, that Reyn is not a human, but a Jotun that is working in service of the king.

01:48:24.900 He's the smith who's learned from the dwarves.

01:48:29.400 And again, it is worth noting that Jotun, even though its etymology is often quoted as the consumption, which is true,

01:48:39.560 the usage, I wonder, in my observation, seems more akin to eldritch or to be of the elder or to be of the old,

01:48:49.720 of the time more associated or connected to Ymir.

01:48:54.900 But in so doing that, he then drinks from his blood as well, Sigurd does, and he's not drinking from the blood of a human. He's not a vampire. He's drinking now from this ancient being who his brother was a shapeshifter who could turn into dragons.

01:49:19.280 His other brother was a shapeshifter who could shape into a giant otter.

01:49:24.900 And his father was the one who was able to know and find and locate where the treasure of this ancient dwarf is. 0.94

01:49:33.980 I'm still counted as vampirism.

01:49:38.360 He's talked about like he's a guy in all the other instances here.

01:49:43.760 That's why I think this poem specifically notes it.

01:49:46.940 and to make it different to make it so it isn't that way but yes in every other iteration he is

01:49:55.280 he's the smith and his brothers just happen to be really good at magic and he's just

01:50:01.780 not so he learns he gets sent off to dwarf school to you know learn how to smith and

01:50:09.820 you're never going to be a shape changer like your brother no um so i digress um

01:50:20.800 so he's cuts off his head and the nut hatch says bind sigurd the golden rings together 0.98

01:50:31.580 Not kingly is it ought to fear 0.72

01:50:35.040 I know a maid 0.97

01:50:36.940 There is none so fair 1.00

01:50:38.900 Rich in gold 0.97

01:50:40.580 If thou mightiest get her

01:50:42.600 So now the prophecy continues

01:50:44.960 And of course this poem

01:50:46.920 Is written

01:50:47.500 With retrospect towards

01:50:50.840 The greater poem

01:50:51.960 But it adds another level of depth

01:50:54.920 That emphasizes

01:50:56.800 That Sigurd

01:50:57.800 Knows or learns

01:51:00.480 of his wife

01:51:02.120 to be

01:51:03.880 if he's 15 now

01:51:06.920 he learns of his wife to be

01:51:09.000 and not only that

01:51:10.080 he learns of the love that he will also

01:51:13.060 have with a

01:51:14.760 Valkyrie

01:51:15.500 so this is kind of

01:51:19.840 and I mentioned this when we got to this point

01:51:21.900 in the Bosanga saga

01:51:23.260 but it's

01:51:25.680 worth noting

01:51:29.160 on the hero's journey

01:51:31.460 and the progression

01:51:32.840 of

01:51:33.940 average dude

01:51:39.040 okay so when you get the

01:51:41.020 final orb on your altered

01:51:43.300 beast thing and you become your

01:51:45.160 like ultimate form

01:51:46.560 one of the things

01:51:49.200 in the ascension to

01:51:51.220 kingship

01:51:53.700 which is very much

01:51:55.280 what the Rigsthula talks about

01:51:57.140 it talks about the ascension

01:51:58.960 of Arians from the most base thrall all the way up to the young king and one of the things that

01:52:12.060 happens at that level is the understanding of rooms and the understand like and various warrior

01:52:19.520 proficiencies but also the understanding of birds and that's a magic that happens here when he

01:52:27.320 you know tastes the blood on his finger all of a sudden he can hear what these birds are saying

01:52:32.340 and he's aware of all these extra things

01:52:37.480 all of the mystery of this i don't claim to have the full answer i've yet to sup on the

01:52:47.200 the heart of a dragon or the the blood of a shifty dwarf giant creature thing but

01:52:54.320 um when you tap into that primal very ancient wisdom

01:53:06.200 things happen to where you are aware of subtle things you might not otherwise know

01:53:13.580 and one thing that i do count as a blessing that i find really interesting and that we

01:53:21.000 make note of a lot and it's trickier when you do um bloat inside of a hoff because you don't have

01:53:28.020 the same elemental things around you as you do when you do things outside as much as i'm the guy

01:53:38.560 that wants to you know increase our worship in hoffs i do appreciate some of the really special

01:53:43.780 things that happen when you bloat outdoors and i think there's different ways they show off but

01:53:48.800 one thing that I do notice very often when we do a particularly well-received bloat or there's

01:53:57.460 special things afoot, I notice a lot of interesting bird sign. It's not just during bloat. Sometimes

01:54:07.520 it's before or after bloat, but there is a connection between the interaction of birds

01:54:17.240 and the divine being present in things that you do.

01:54:27.200 I remember one time when I lived in Palmer, Alaska,

01:54:33.460 we did a, forget the occasion of it, it was in the winter.

01:54:43.080 We were getting ready to do bloat.

01:54:44.500 we had everyone over to my house and we're getting ready and I mean bald eagles are not

01:54:52.100 uncommon in Alaska but they're usually not something that's like in your yard they're by

01:54:58.960 the river or you may see one like flying but usually around rivers and and stuff they're not

01:55:05.180 really scavengers they don't typically feed out of dumpsters or whatever they get fish out of rivers

01:55:11.720 And you find them in that kind of an environment very often up there.

01:55:16.580 But in my driveway, there was an eagle that came and landed on the ground in my drive, which is also odd.

01:55:23.700 I see him in trees and I see him flying.

01:55:27.080 But growing up, we didn't see him on the ground a lot.

01:55:30.960 One landed in my driveway and was much closer than eagles usually let you get.

01:55:38.340 was looking at us as we were getting ready to go in and do bloat and when it was like okay guys

01:55:44.560 time to process into the circle the eagle flew up into the tree and the tree flew into was our

01:55:51.660 our ritual tree where we'd leave our offerings where we would um yeah we kind of direct our

01:56:00.780 focus if we had to you know pour out the mead or or leave food that we'd left as an offering we'd

01:56:05.960 it at the base of this um dogwood tree and we go out in a circle and this is kind of our ritual

01:56:13.240 tree that we focus on so he flew up into the tree and he perched there and he stayed there

01:56:18.760 all through us you know doing bloat and getting loud and doing our thing and doing our ritual

01:56:23.640 he stayed exactly as long as bloat was and when bloat concluded and we went inside he flew off

01:56:29.720 and it was unlike any other interaction i ever had with an eagle but it was really

01:56:37.240 it was really special we also get a lot of interesting bird sign at odin's off

01:56:43.080 and again not always but when it's particularly auspicious i notice that

01:56:47.720 yeah we get the the the turkey or the the vulture buzzard uh they fly up high and circle around as

01:57:00.800 if they're having fun on the wind right before the storms show up it's it's almost clockwork now

01:57:07.880 you see them spinning around and and kind of coasting and then they disappear and then the

01:57:16.820 the the clouds and the rain um okay so back to it uh

01:57:29.540 there's they're still speaking they say green the paths that to gyuki lead and it's worth

01:57:36.660 uh remembering that gyuki is the father of his future wife so the king that he must find

01:57:45.140 is gyuki and his fate the way to the wanderer shows the doughty king a daughter has that thou 0.96

01:57:55.220 as a bride mayest sigur buy another then spoke a hall stands high on hinderfjol all with flame

01:58:09.580 it is ringed without warriors wise did make it once out of the flaming the light of the flood

01:58:17.520 on the mountain sleeps a battle made and about her plays the bane of the wood fire

01:58:26.040 ygg with the thorn ygg of course lord odin uh as in the same with yggdrasil but it's mentioned

01:58:36.440 terrible one yes eg with the thorn has smitten her thus for she felled the fighter he fain would save

01:58:47.160 he made a wrong call and went against his will so he put her to sleep

01:58:55.960 there mayest thou behold the maiden hound who forth on wings corner rode from the fight the

01:59:04.200 victory bringer her sleep shall not break thou hero's son so the norns have set

01:59:14.360 sigurd rode along fafner's trail to his lair he found it open the gate posts were of iron

01:59:22.840 and the gates were of iron too were all beams in this house which was dug down into the earth

01:59:31.000 there Sigurd found a mighty store of gold and he filled two chests full thereof he took the fear

01:59:39.080 helm the helm of awe and a golden mail coat and the sword prati and many other precious things

01:59:49.080 and loaded grani his horse with them but the horse would not go forward until Sigurd mounted it

01:59:56.200 mounted on his back. So despite placing all of that, Sigurd would not, I mean, Grani would not

02:00:04.520 refuse to give ride to the rider, which again is just such a, it's re-emphasizing

02:00:14.460 Grani as being the horse of horses. Every warrior in the hall may have had a situation

02:00:24.140 where they were loading their horse up

02:00:25.900 and the horse just refused to let him ride.

02:00:29.080 So, but not Grani.

02:00:30.660 Grani's like, no, I'm not going to go a step forward

02:00:34.180 until you get on.

02:00:36.540 And he mounted on his back.

02:00:42.120 And that brings it to end.

02:00:48.520 Thank you for that, Svon.

02:00:51.580 It's not a long poem,

02:00:53.040 But I think that it's rich in, I don't know, cool nuggets that I think are really important.

02:01:01.280 It's an espresso kind of concentration.

02:01:04.140 Well, it really is. So much of the Volsunga Saga is about other things, but his claim to fame is he is the slayer of Fafnir, and this talks about that incident in detail and really, you know, teases out some important points of it.

02:01:31.300 So we do have questions this evening.

02:01:34.300 Not a vast abundance, but questions nonetheless.

02:01:40.380 What do we got?

02:01:41.880 Well, there was a question that just kind of came in.

02:01:44.860 It's not, I don't think it's a, but Lana K said, this is a bit over my head.

02:01:49.560 Could someone recommend a good book for a beginner?

02:01:53.740 Someone who doesn't know much about our gods.

02:01:56.880 lana first i saw your uh thing thank you for joining us this evening um absolutely will

02:02:06.600 recommend books and stuff if you want though take a look over past streams we did a whole series

02:02:14.060 on this specific story um called uh the volsunga saga i want to say we did that about two months

02:02:22.840 ago. So if you want to take a look at that, it might help tease some of it out. The Volsung

02:02:29.520 saga is what you would find it under normally. That would tell you about this story in specific.

02:02:43.880 What do you have for recommendation? Well, I was going to say, you know,

02:02:48.920 this just to bear in mind for her too this is this we're we're going into the poetry of a very large

02:02:58.280 corpus of lore but to go back as what you said and look at um some of the earlier poems that

02:03:08.360 that we that are spoken of the gods the halvamal if you have time in the gym or if you have long

02:03:15.000 drives if you are perhaps a long haul trucker of sorts um we tend to do these long episodes but if

02:03:22.520 you look back over it um we do a lot of lore episodes we're currently in the poetic edda and

02:03:30.520 i feel like swan and i've been doing poetic edda stuff for a year or more um but it's cool we're

02:03:38.520 going over a lot of things any of these episodes might be helpful or at least fun for you to look

02:03:43.560 into if you want but any copy of the poetic edda is gonna kind of give you a lot of the basics

02:03:50.680 if any of this feels i don't know hard or awkward to get into initially

02:03:59.560 don't fear i think that we all have that reaction going into it because it's not um

02:04:06.600 it's not written as like one cohesive holy book like the bible or the quran or something like

02:04:19.580 that it's a collection of the mormons call theirs uh mormon oh the book of mormon book of mormon

02:04:27.060 another testament of jesus christ um i i brought that up i'll get into that here in a second too

02:04:35.940 so um yeah but there's a lot of cool things if you have any questions we'd be happy to

02:04:44.420 answer anything or help direct you but all of us when we start out it you just gotta kind of

02:04:50.740 jump in a little bit and the more you read of the lore the more you notice connections and

02:04:57.140 you notice things that you're familiar with and it'll make sense more i've been telling

02:05:04.500 you about the primary sources sfan may have some suggestions on other stuff that's kind of

02:05:11.380 i don't know easier or more accessible i was going to say start at uh going to the website

02:05:18.580 and looking at our true log model and then the best part about that is because again sometimes

02:05:24.740 it throws people off when they see old norse words but you can copy paste and go and search

02:05:31.060 you know and gain insight by going down the rabbit holes in that sense also

02:05:38.100 don't be intimidated lana i don't know you uh but assuming you look like the rest of us

02:05:44.500 these are your gods these are your stories they will connect and they will feel good and feel

02:05:52.100 like coming home you've just gotta kind of take the dive into them we'd be happy to help you on

02:05:57.940 it if you don't look like the rest of us still really interesting and there's a lot of other

02:06:03.540 study tools to kind of get immersed in it and there's different ways to approach it academically

02:06:09.220 um but yeah it's really interesting and i'm glad that you are on the show with us today

02:06:15.540 feel free to ask whatever questions you like and thank you for joining us i mentioned something

02:06:20.020 where swan got me on the book of mormon thing i've had so my daughter and i go to this park

02:06:27.140 that's really close to our house often, just about every day. We'll go there, I'll read stuff,

02:06:32.640 do some AFA business, and she'll run and play with the other kids. And there is a duo of Mormon 0.95

02:06:39.440 missionaries that ride their bikes through the park, and that's part of their missionary territory

02:06:47.780 that they're assigned to preach in. One of the things I've been trying to do more and get better

02:06:53.300 at is to engage folks in that kind of a conversation. Instead of, you know, it's always easy to just

02:06:59.620 kind of blow it off, like, oh, I'm busy, I got something to, instead, I'm just, hey, sure, let's

02:07:05.280 talk. I'm sitting at the park, sit down, let's have a conversation. We've had really cool, about three

02:07:11.440 times now, they'll sit and talk to me for like an hour, and I'll ask them questions about Mormonism,

02:07:17.740 and they will ask me questions about Ausatru, and it's been a really nice experience, and I hope

02:07:24.560 at least they are learning about our faith a little bit. I know I'm learning a little bit

02:07:28.660 about their faith and where they're coming from, but it's been really interesting, and I'm glad I

02:07:32.920 took the time to just like, hey, you know, just so happens, you know, I'm a go-fi, and this is what I

02:07:39.840 do, so it's worth doing, and it led to like some just nice conversation with a couple of, you know,

02:07:46.440 nice white kids that are trying to do something good so it's nice to do that and maybe they'll

02:07:53.180 look at our website maybe it will inspire them to come home maybe it won't but either way it's been

02:07:57.780 a been a good interaction and something i'm glad i'm doing i i know that we have questions in the

02:08:04.100 queue waiting i did want to say scott thatcher wrote i wonder who would win in a fight

02:08:09.560 sorter or the devil and to be honest the best way that i could explain this is that's like

02:08:14.540 comparing apples to persimmons but someone's calling the persimmon a tangerine and what i

02:08:21.160 mean by that is in our in our faith is and has not deviated but the word devil the word satan

02:08:31.900 uh the hasatan um in christianity has greatly morphed and um there was a time when the word

02:08:40.420 hasatan was utilized for the opponents of yahweh god of the israelites and uh that certain times

02:08:49.460 they would place their sins into a goat and then place that goat up on a plateau to be devoured by

02:08:58.180 the wild of of one of the hasatans that was called um azriel i think is azriel and then

02:09:10.660 uh it gets a little confusing because there's an angel named ariel so it gets it's it gets wild but

02:09:16.980 the usage of the word hasatan as an opponent eventually becoming satan as a a group and

02:09:25.700 then eventually an individual uh so the morphing of that and its correlation to the burning pit

02:09:32.900 or the burning pit outside uh where it was called gaina versus what christians normally view as the

02:09:39.860 burning pit that's um in heaven the that they you know push people into um etc that also has greatly

02:09:50.660 morph, but Suter has remained. So I would say to your question, Suter would win because the other

02:09:59.460 is not as definable as modern Christians would like it to be. And the like shifty lawyer 1.00

02:10:09.780 like opposing counsel to Yahweh or whatever. Right, especially the book of Job. Yeah, he's 0.89

02:10:16.500 he's greasy and kind of shifty it's sleazy martini yeah like he's not

02:10:27.860 the devil in the shifty like the little hat big nose shifty sense is not really

02:10:36.820 formidable against the might of cert um the angelic like angel of light lucifer 0.93

02:10:45.700 version more so but again they're the hebrew angels are freaky like multi-eyeball 0.76

02:10:56.580 beholder creatures that also are not as cool as like fire giants with big flaming sword 0.88

02:11:03.380 destroying things so if they had to my money would be on surther um and i really think christians

02:11:10.340 are unaware of how how much greek paganism made the semitic religion really cool you know with

02:11:17.540 the with all of its imagery when you strip away all of the cool stuff it's really slimy

02:11:25.460 foreign and greasy and not really not appealing to our sensibilities um

02:11:32.820 The book of Job, which you said, where he's just 0.96

02:11:37.260 here and Yahweh are working on 0.87

02:11:40.100 counsel and cross-counsel against Job

02:11:44.360 to test his faith. I object.

02:11:52.400 Different house. That's all I'm saying. It's not even in the realm, Scott.

02:11:55.860 No, I agree with Spahn's thing. It's like an apple versus a

02:11:59.860 tomato. I guess they're both fruits in some sense of the word. All right. So more serious question.

02:12:11.340 Hey there, question for tonight's show. To what extent can someone associate with a friend

02:12:17.820 slash family member who is a dishonorable person without being stained by association?

02:12:24.100 Is it wiser to distance yourself from such people, or should you try to remain near in an attempt to influence them to become better? Thanks. Svan, take first swing at that. 0.78

02:12:38.460 Okay. Yeah, that's a really interesting question. Multilayer. I would say first and foremost, because there's the mentioning of family. This is not so black and white. This is not inner guard, outer guard. This is blood. And you're dealing with that. And then on top of that, it depends on the situation.

02:12:58.520 And I really hate to say that to you, uh, because it sounds like, uh, I'm giving a loose

02:13:06.400 lawyer answer, but, um, but he also said friend, uh, I would say family and friends are different.

02:13:16.320 Uh, if you have a friend who has done something of great dishonor, especially to another friend,

02:13:23.040 Yes, you cut that immediately because your loyalties are your honor and you cannot differ.

02:13:33.620 So if your friend and you know and you agree with the fact that they have been grievously against your friend, stand with the friend who is wronged and separate yourself from the one who was doing the egregious deed.

02:13:51.160 I would say figure out, make sure, because again, a lot of people weaponize that too.

02:13:56.160 You know, oh, you know what he did to me?

02:13:57.580 He did this.

02:13:58.960 And if you immediately, so having a wise head is good.

02:14:02.960 But if you find out, if you witness or you absolutely know that that friend did something to another friend and you kind of sit in between, bad move.

02:14:14.740 That's not a good look.

02:14:15.800 the other is though if you have family members there are certain things i would say that are

02:14:22.760 disputed where you there's arguments or you know he took for me or he abused this or or what have

02:14:29.060 you but there's other things that are clearly against the line uh you know egregious things

02:14:37.980 i'm not going to go into it on on youtube but those egregious things yes but and that's the

02:14:45.000 fate they deserve if it's terrible. But there are other things too that I think you should

02:14:51.560 ultimately not be so hasty to cut that with family. And there is wisdom in trying to steer

02:15:02.420 them in the right direction. There is wisdom in maintaining a link to the pathway that they can

02:15:08.320 have to come back home, to come back to the gods, to come back to their family, to whatever it might

02:15:15.360 be. It's important at the onset to be upfront with them and say, you have done this. You have

02:15:23.460 walked away from the gods. You have walked away from the family. You have walked away

02:15:28.560 and perhaps you can find your path back or I, you know, am not going to condone what you did,

02:15:36.480 but I'm here for you when you're ready to talk about it.

02:15:40.240 I think that's a huge difference than kind of taking the fence and then saying,

02:15:46.580 well,

02:15:46.620 the only reason why I'm here is to kind of make sure that I can guide them in

02:15:50.940 the right direction. So make sure you're not doing that.

02:15:55.720 But I mean, that's pretty much all mine.

02:15:59.080 I know also you're going to have a much better take on this.

02:16:02.980 I appreciate you thinking so.

02:16:05.080 we will see

02:16:07.440 in some ways and shapes

02:16:10.040 well because here's

02:16:12.200 the thing

02:16:13.180 and I know this is you know kind of like

02:16:16.120 Swan said when he started to answer

02:16:17.760 the unsatisfying

02:16:20.160 answer is

02:16:21.320 Alcetru

02:16:23.300 is about being Aryan

02:16:26.020 being Aryan is about being noble

02:16:28.140 being noble is about your

02:16:30.340 agency

02:16:33.940 as a man or a woman to make informed choices on things there's not one and done oh this person

02:16:43.820 is kind of dishonorable cast them out that's not the simple answer the world is much more complex

02:16:51.800 than that you have bonds of friendship that you can enter into and exit out of with very little

02:16:59.680 consequence often, depending upon the degree and longevity of the friendship. Your family is a

02:17:09.560 different story. You are associated with them whether you want to or not. A stain of ignobility

02:17:17.140 upon your family is a stain upon you in one way or another, regardless of what you want to do about

02:17:23.900 it so the initial hit you take a little bit then you can kind of choose how to manage it

02:17:31.180 your point is prescient about wanting to yeah but should you still be associated

02:17:36.940 in a way that you can guide them back to honorable behavior

02:17:41.980 sure in the extent that you do that what i would say is there's kind of a sliding scale of

02:17:47.100 levels of dishonorable behavior that you can scale up or scale down your interactions on

02:17:57.280 there are interactions with friends to where you are deeply involved in one another's life

02:18:04.080 and they're invited to all of your family events and they're like brothers to you

02:18:08.960 I would say that should become less the more dishonorable that person is

02:18:14.960 but keeping yourself available to help advise them to make good choices is a thing to do

02:18:25.080 I think that we all have a different place where we put that hard line to where you're beyond

02:18:30.160 redemption and you have the right to do that but that kind of flexes on what the level of dishonor

02:18:38.800 I mean, did they steal something at Walmart or did they, you know, betray their folk or betray a loved one or do something truly heinous to harm someone?

02:18:50.900 These are different levels of dishonorable behavior.

02:18:53.880 You can scale up or down accordingly.

02:18:56.480 You should never be dishonest and approve of dishonorable behavior.

02:19:02.360 That's, I think, fundamental.

02:19:04.060 With your family, there are obligations that are functionally important to do within your family, and then there's, you know, hey, are you inviting them over all the time to come hang out and be involved in your life and your children's lives?

02:19:23.780 If their dishonor is liable to affect the rest of your family, lessening that contact is advisable until they choose to regain an honorable path.

02:19:37.760 But the thing is, you can choose your friends, but you can't choose your family.

02:19:42.260 They're going to continue to be associated with you and your family for the rest of their existence.

02:19:47.200 keeping the ability to persuade them to behave more honorably, I think is always an advisable

02:19:56.840 thing to have at least the most basic level of communication open to where you can help

02:20:02.040 bring them back towards something honorable, if that's a possibility. And again,

02:20:09.580 there are things that are a step outside that are, you know, they can never come back from.

02:20:18.300 I think those might look a little bit different on where each of us draws that line. But like,

02:20:23.660 for example, if one of your family, you know, molests children or something, then

02:20:28.540 at least where I'm at, they're done and you can't really come back from that. So I would

02:20:35.260 no longer be associated with them in any way at that point.

02:20:40.120 But there's other things to where

02:20:42.440 I would not associate more than the

02:20:46.960 most basic familial obligations and

02:20:51.180 encouraging them to try to get their life right.

02:20:54.940 And if they tried to get their life right, I would choose to proportionally

02:20:58.980 re-engage based upon their progress in that

02:21:03.360 course but without knowing the specifics it's hard and details really do matter in that circumstance

02:21:11.200 if you jump to the bottom of our questions there's a couple carry-on questions by a few people

02:21:17.840 let me see

02:21:18.320 oh down here at the bottom scott asks there's a couple of them here so i'm trying to figure out

02:21:36.560 where to start uh what if you're the one who walked away from your family because you joined

02:21:43.040 the old gods and they are opposed to them um so that's an interesting question and i appreciate

02:21:49.120 you asking it i would i would encourage if you are the one who walked away because you wanted

02:22:01.680 to worship the old gods and they did not i would again it's i'm not in your spot and the details

02:22:11.920 matter how that happened matters did you walk away because of their opposition to the choice that you

02:22:19.200 made or did you just cut them off because you wanted to pursue this new this new um journey

02:22:27.120 of faith that you're on if you are the one who walked away because they are christian and you

02:22:32.720 are also true and you wanted to forge a new path i would consider what all that means and how much

02:22:39.200 you needed to separate yourself i don't think that if you become also true on from your perspective

02:22:47.780 you need to separate yourself from your family unless there's other variables involved that i'm

02:22:56.060 unaware of so if you're the one who chose to step away from your family i would consider re-engaging

02:23:03.300 with them as long as they can be respectful of your faith and the things that are your core values

02:23:09.180 um but no you shouldn't disguise your outs of true practice or be untrue to who you are and

02:23:19.460 living authentically you should be open and honest about what you believe and the gods that

02:23:24.580 you worship if you can do that and still engage with them then i would encourage you to still

02:23:29.840 engage with them may i of course bring up a point here and uh i i i knew you were going to say it

02:23:37.820 because that is our faith our faith is about joining and the alzharagothi is saying you should

02:23:44.860 maintain being loyal to the gods but you should also try to make amends with your family unless

02:23:51.580 of course they spurn you for that but remember the fundamental difference between christianity

02:23:57.580 and aussitrew aussitrew would say you hold your truth to the gods but try to rebuild with your

02:24:05.660 family but christianity would say no i did not come here as a peacemaker i came here as a sword

02:24:14.380 is specifically from jesus he said i did not come here as a peacemaker i came here uh

02:24:21.580 bringing a sword and that sword is to sever the ties they never ever end the quote of that bible

02:24:27.980 uh verse the quote says i am here to sever the the ties between the father and the son and the

02:24:36.220 mother and the daughter basically uh jesus was rabbi saying if you guys want to follow me in my

02:24:44.700 new way and your parents are still following the old way of the pharisees then i am here as a sword

02:24:52.060 to cut that and to iron the line in the sand between the old judaism and the the new church

02:24:59.740 that he is trying to create the new synagogue um so he clearly states it that but he's also again

02:25:07.580 he's speaking to judaic peoples and so you have to take that into context but that's a really

02:25:15.420 interesting note. Ausatru would say, be of your gods, return. But if your family is deluded in

02:25:24.240 the Semitic faith from the Middle East, and they have these notions, remember, their notions are 0.90

02:25:30.800 that heavy, sword severing between families. They have no compunctions, isolating the self 0.98

02:25:39.480 and the soul to the afterlife etc so i knew i just i when i saw that and you were it like

02:25:47.580 rushed in hitting me that that's the the kind of a stark difference between unless it's

02:25:55.520 irredeemably villainous i'd always leave the door open for a family

02:25:59.900 um especially if there's kids involved and other people's kids and nieces and nephews and things

02:26:06.940 like that um there's nothing you can do that truly opts out of your family they are bound to

02:26:14.700 you by blood regardless of how you want to conceive it so leaving the door open for reconciliation

02:26:21.900 between perhaps their children or whatever might be the case i think is valuable and a bit of an

02:26:29.500 obligation familiarly um go ahead he says they're part of they are the rainbow hariri and i i don't

02:26:37.980 know but i i'm assuming he's saying just of the the rainbow ilk but yeah a lot of people are

02:26:43.500 really confused and we live through really strange times this rainbow globo homo thing is

02:26:51.500 you know it depends on how old somebody is this has been really cool for the last 10 years

02:26:59.660 before that it really wasn't maybe 10 years from now it won't be still there's some stuff

02:27:06.880 they can make progress on depending far how far down that road they've gone and again there may

02:27:13.380 be nieces and nephews involved that you can still be a positive force in their life depending on

02:27:19.120 your level of engagement. Scott asked specifically, I'll tell you what a family member is gay.

02:27:27.020 I'm making assumptions that you're talking about a male family member. I think

02:27:32.980 it is different with women than it is with men. You know, we all know that as men, 0.65

02:27:42.020 once you voluntarily choose to participate in homosexuality, you can't really un-gay yourself.

02:27:49.120 With women, I think it functions a little bit different, but that is a choice that I think everybody has to make, and I don't think there's a wrong answer to it as far as in the broad strokes. 0.92

02:28:06.800 If that is a step too far and you need to cut them off for good on that, I certainly understand that decision and am supportive of that decision made. 0.97

02:28:19.120 And soberly and not made in haste or out of anger about it. I think also, though, and for a lot of people, you don't have to do that.

02:28:28.380 I think the concern comes when there's kids involved and letting the kids be around that person unsupervised, I'd be really weary of. 0.62

02:28:41.280 um especially if they were same-sex children in that environment um 0.98

02:28:50.640 but again you can't completely opt out of these people being your family

02:28:56.100 and your relations with one family member inevitably affect relationships with a whole

02:29:02.760 web of you know mothers and grandmas and nieces and nephews and a variety of people

02:29:08.440 that is one where I would be very cautious in my dealings with that family member and I would think

02:29:15.640 that that would draw a line to where my level of closeness with that family member could never be

02:29:22.060 what it would be if that were not the case it doesn't mean there can't be some I don't think

02:29:28.720 that in our faith most things are not an all-or-nothing proposition but that would definitely

02:29:36.260 cause the relationship to shift in a way that I don't think it could ever be the same as it was

02:29:45.180 before they decided to make that life choice. So I think there's a lot of right answers to that,

02:29:52.600 but each person's going to make their own. And as long as they're trying to be safe and not

02:29:58.280 altering their core values, what I'd never do on any of these things is approve of the

02:30:02.340 unapprovable. You know, there's things that are not acceptable, and I don't think you ever have

02:30:06.720 to accept whatever. If your brother decides that he's a girl, you don't ever have to call him

02:30:13.760 Susan. That's your brother. If he wants you to pretend he's your sister, well, he's not. You

02:30:19.420 don't have a sister, so you don't have any obligation of that. But again, that's a very

02:30:24.980 strange circumstance that is a sickness of our time. And that's a hard one to navigate. But I

02:30:35.020 think that as long as you're true to yourself and true to your principles, you can choose

02:30:39.120 how much to engage with that person or how much not to. But again, I would always be very cautious,

02:30:45.220 especially with children involved um the next question

02:30:56.180 what is what is the afa's position on premarital sex from a religious

02:31:04.020 house to true perspective should sex only be uh be within the confines of a monogamous marriage

02:31:11.620 it's fine what are your thoughts on this so i i think we can kind of organize a two-tiered

02:31:16.900 i will talk about like i think more uh the old the viking age ideas of this and then i think

02:31:24.900 would better if you address the the church of the gods in our modern day that are building temples

02:31:31.860 to the gods so like uh i i'll kind of do the the lore nerd back half um i would say it's really

02:31:39.300 important when you look at old lore and and asking yourself how does alsatru are you asking about

02:31:47.300 how the church of the icier today defines it and what what its uses and and etc or are we talking

02:31:56.660 about what the way our ancestors did it and again that's the perception of very small slivers of

02:32:03.380 allure that survive. But that's where I'll focus on that. That's my jam. So one of the things

02:32:12.480 that's worth noting is anytime that there was premarital sex between a man or a woman,

02:32:21.300 there was generally a huge push towards marriage after that if the child was,

02:32:30.460 or not the child sorry the child was coming that the signs of birth were coming um and and the

02:32:38.760 girl was showing then it was really heavily and societally established that yes they should get

02:32:45.880 married and because now they are going to have blood offspring and so on and so forth um it was

02:32:51.880 a little looser for men uh there's not a lot that goes on that but there's a reason for that

02:32:57.160 one nor society to the value that virginity has in the society so virginity was held um 0.90

02:33:10.460 as valuable specifically in in women one there's the mention that the house or that the

02:33:19.840 our senior gevion houses the souls in heaven of women who are virgins so that again shows that

02:33:34.480 emphasis the other point of that was because it was about character of of the woman that the other

02:33:45.200 family especially if they've gone through all the societal processes to make to try to uh woo

02:33:53.520 that the son goes there and he's sending her poems and doing all of this stuff and then he sends his

02:33:59.360 friend to her father so that he can uh arrange a point where he can ask them to you know may i

02:34:07.040 marry your daughter and all of that stuff that stuff was was very very important and so entailed 0.89

02:34:14.000 on the other end it was that she wasn't sleeping with everyone you know in the fjord if you will

02:34:21.360 um that was kind of like not a good look and it wasn't wasn't met well um so chastity

02:34:30.860 unlike with say like the vestal virgins of greece or when you get into semitic religions like

02:34:37.500 Islam and Christianity and Judaism. The vestige of virginity had societal power, but the gods were 0.55

02:34:50.380 not coming down and decreeing things. What that tells us too is that the gods expect us to conduct

02:35:00.120 ourselves in a way and the church of the ice here the australian folk assembly it is it's in the

02:35:07.740 name so it's nobility we should conduct ourselves nobility with a nobly but um the other point i

02:35:15.300 wanted to make was marriages under the age of 15 in our ancestors time was considered strange

02:35:24.420 It was absolutely taboo. Remember how before I mentioned that most young men that would go

02:35:31.040 raiding or would go trading were around 15 in the age, given the fact that life expectancy

02:35:41.520 being in the 50s and 60s, 15 was the age that a young man was expected to join a crew and go

02:35:49.000 abroad you know cross over the ocean in a tiny little wooden vessel um and and and just do it

02:35:58.600 uh which is crazy to think about but um any woman any young girl married under the age of 15 was

02:36:08.760 seen as absolutely strange that was not the norm um you know what has it what is it different in

02:36:16.920 in earlier iterations of germanic arian societies they they vary so much that i can't give

02:36:23.880 a a hardened answer on it but it kind of lends to note yes the idea was that if you mean man

02:36:32.040 maintained your chase chastity and then got married that is the best if you don't if you

02:36:38.040 fall in love and you have a child out of wedlock then society both tribes both clans want you to

02:36:45.560 get married the other thing that's really important is a woman that has a child out of wedlock

02:36:52.200 is adding on responsibility to her clan that was a big thing as far as being able to survive 0.97

02:37:01.960 and having the resources to feed another mouth so if a woman was to get pregnant um 0.99

02:37:08.760 um and not have a husband or something of that nature to afford the child then they were had

02:37:17.420 they were at a deficit and in those climates that that's very dangerous the other point of that is 0.89

02:37:24.840 is when women uh bring extra children after marriage you're married you have children that's

02:37:32.680 blessing that's a boon the woman brings so much to the home to the household the weaving the brewing 0.99

02:37:39.880 of mead the brewing of beer uh and all of the things that women did then and um on top of that

02:37:47.080 adding uh children and um you know we know of of love and and the nature between it but

02:37:55.720 also from a societal standpoint that was more help on the farm so it it's interesting that

02:38:02.760 their society looked at a child out of wedlock was a deficit to her father but when she went

02:38:11.400 and married with a young man and had children that was a boom to the farm of their household

02:38:19.720 so what that tells me is again there's a significance in in those positions but it's

02:38:26.360 not written down it's not proclaimed it's not about shout it's again it is the way in which

02:38:33.640 they conduct themselves give us the signs but that it was also there was some leeway if you did have

02:38:42.280 a child out of wedlock then they would push you to get married and if some guy came and said i

02:38:48.680 i want to marry your daughter and she's nine the dad would probably split your head in twain

02:38:54.580 because that's being a weirdo um so that's kind of what i'm getting at is all of these

02:39:01.980 historical references have uh signposts that let us know that society functioned in a in a way um

02:39:11.280 but there is no point in which say like lord othen comes down and says you know that shall not sit

02:39:18.320 where a a woman who's menstruating sits that's that's semitic stuff and our gods don't function

02:39:26.800 that way so a couple things even back in the viking age or the you know the the arc heathen period 0.89

02:39:48.320 A lot of what we see is idealized as the best and brightest version of things for nobility. 0.53

02:40:01.320 There was a lot of premarital sex happening.

02:40:04.600 There was a young warrior society where guys were out doing stuff and they're on campaign and things happen.

02:40:10.900 This is an issue that, again, in the Austro-Folk Assembly, we do not believe in equality.

02:40:17.320 Nothing is equal. The world doesn't work that way.

02:40:22.680 Guys can kind of go out and do what they do and their buddies give them a high five and it's all good, assuming that they don't bring back kids with them. 1.00

02:40:30.840 Or this is a very different story with women. 1.00

02:40:36.740 If you are a woman, your value is greatly decreased due to your, you know, as the kids would say today, body count. 0.99

02:40:44.320 in a noble situation but again it becomes a little bit different if you're dealing with 0.90

02:40:52.320 second marriages or later in life relationships we're talking about the young prince and princess

02:41:00.740 then yeah the expectation with that is virginity and on the woman's part 0.65

02:41:07.180 so that creates an interesting situation and something to be thought about

02:41:14.520 the other thing that's really important is some of these things change with the reality of the

02:41:22.780 society you live in and where you're at and ours is not a thou shalt thou shalt not faith

02:41:30.620 on a lot of things on some things it is but a lot of things have a great deal to do with whether

02:41:36.700 your actions bring honor or dishonor to your family and your tribe and the situation that

02:41:42.820 you're in. In today's world, virginity is a very hard thing to come by. People end up getting in

02:41:53.800 marriages often later in life, and we are in a much more hyper-sexualized society. That's a hard

02:42:03.040 thing to come by and there's no hard fast rule or fatwa on premarital sex i think we all realize

02:42:13.600 the implications of that be it disease be it unwanted pregnancies um

02:42:21.280 um be it you know gods forbid uh interracial dalliances with unwanted pregnancies

02:42:34.000 um yeah those are things that our ancestors didn't really have to yeah that wasn't a frequent

02:42:42.760 occurrence maybe if men were off battling in great distant parts of the world and then they

02:42:49.120 didn't have to really deal with consequences of that when they went home. That wasn't really a

02:42:54.320 thing. In today's society, it kind of is. Fawn's point's valid. If the family found out and there

02:43:01.140 was stuff, they would push for the young people to get married. And so it would not result in

02:43:07.400 dishonor on the family. We don't live in a world where that results in dishonor in the same way.

02:43:13.560 but again a woman significantly loses value when trying to marry 1.00

02:43:21.000 a good man if they bring with them you know the more baggage that they bring with them 0.99

02:43:30.360 from sexual choices that they made the less valuable that appears to prospective mates

02:43:41.080 again when people are very young i think we have a lot of people that end up finding their

02:43:46.960 you know their forever spouse when they're later in life that's unfortunate it just kind of is

02:43:54.440 the situation we find ourselves in and in that situation you're not going to 0.92

02:43:59.620 find yourself some virginal 30 something year old woman unless something is really wrong with them 0.67

02:44:07.720 are really wrong with you or unless a number of things have gone very wrong in life so

02:44:15.400 what i again there is no fatwa on premarital sex i would caution people to make good choices

02:44:28.760 and especially on the woman's end don't sleep with somebody that you're not prepared to

02:44:34.760 to have children with if something doesn't work the way you want it to. 0.77

02:44:42.140 And I would also say that for men out there listening, avoid the purity spiral.

02:44:57.840 There's a lot of guys out there now that get radicalized by things on the internet and

02:45:03.620 get really strange purity spiral ideas that don't serve them well in the real world and they end up

02:45:11.620 being sad alone angry and bitter purposely designed to isolate yeah and those things

02:45:21.900 angry bitter alone

02:45:26.360 the longer that's the situation you find yourself with without engaging in the dating pool and

02:45:33.600 trying to find a girlfriend and find a wife, the older you are, where you're just angry and bitter

02:45:40.420 that you can't find beautiful tins that are virginal and you're in your thirties or whatever,

02:45:47.720 wherever you're at, that's not a recipe for success in your life. You need to be realistic

02:45:55.120 and work with the things that are in front of us. It doesn't mean you should have no standards,

02:46:00.020 but your standards need to be proportional to the marketplace and not to whatever idealized

02:46:06.020 situation you've invented in your head or the people you follow on facebook or youtube or

02:46:12.740 twitter have conditioned you to think is the world that's you have to function in the world

02:46:19.780 that you live in i know that's not the clean answer that people would like for the question

02:46:24.980 but it is the honest answer but those yeah and they they're purposely designed to isolate it's

02:46:30.020 just like many of these uh young girls who some of them are built like a college futon and they're 1.00

02:46:37.780 saying that they're gonna have you know six foot five uh millionaires for boyfriends it's perfectly

02:46:46.020 meant it's it's conditioning our people to um isolate because of these kind of unachievable

02:46:54.420 standards but i did want to say there is one thing that um uh scott wrote i was here ago

02:47:01.140 the didn't nobility have harems back in the day guarded by middle eastern nobility did

02:47:08.580 yeah i was gonna well yeah i wanted to expand um no we don't find that a lot in aryan cultures

02:47:18.660 and i can't say we don't find it ever but the times that we do find it are not just nobility but

02:47:25.700 kings we find it the further we get towards the mediterranean we find that with some greeks we

02:47:34.020 find it in the roman period but no that's largely a middle eastern thing that makes its way into

02:47:42.340 europe and people will find themselves in polygamous you know kings will find themselves

02:47:50.660 with multiple wives because they'll be involved in political marriages or marriages that solidify

02:47:56.660 families in that sense in the historical period you don't find a lot of that when you get away

02:48:04.500 from the mediterranean and still not the norm in the metal mediterranean for nobility it's the norm

02:48:11.700 for uh it's the sometimes for royalty but again those are marriages of state much more than they're

02:48:23.460 this dude's awesome so he gets a whole bunch of chicks it's not just function quite and i'm sure

02:48:30.180 that nobility in the day could could you know have a lot of variety of ladies if that's what they

02:48:37.140 chose but that wasn't really something that defined our tradition or the character of our

02:48:43.700 people as a matter of fact it's something that tacitus noted about the germans when he went

02:48:49.380 away from the mediterranean and they felt the need to only have one wife is that it was remarkable

02:48:55.300 that their you know their nobility were husbands to one wife and they had marital fidelity amongst

02:49:03.140 their nobility much more than the romans and tacitus's purpose in writing that was to talk

02:49:09.220 about how far roman society had degraded from their classical period and been infected by 0.95

02:49:18.180 licentiousness from their intermixing with other middle eastern and mediterranean you know odd 1.00

02:49:26.740 cultures. So I can't say that that never happened, but that wasn't the norm amongst the nobility of 0.96

02:49:34.520 our ancestors at all. And it certainly wasn't, I mean, that wasn't even the norm amongst royalty.

02:49:40.380 It certainly was not common amongst other nobility and wasn't a normal function in Aryan society

02:49:47.460 for the most part. A lot of things are situational. Again, I can't say that that never happened or was

02:49:54.120 unheard of but we don't find examples of that very often and where we do

02:50:00.680 they're precipitously closer to the middle east and the mediterranean even in the mediterranean

02:50:07.340 they're you know further towards the middle east and less towards spain and there's a whole thing

02:50:14.100 that we've uh discussed in the priesthood about how much the the phoenicians who are the canaanites

02:50:20.820 influenced the Greeks, but I was here to go these correct. The Mediterranean becomes this

02:50:27.340 liminal space with many other influences kind of changing the norm of the Aryan

02:50:34.340 mindset, or it seems to act differently around the Mediterranean. We can point fingers at a lot

02:50:42.160 of different things. In Los Angeles, you have white guys wearing do rags, but it's not really 0.81

02:50:47.720 our thing it's comes with proximity towards diversity well that's a that's an interesting 0.95

02:50:55.880 point holy crap um well i was gonna say too that uh you you had said matters of state

02:51:05.480 that's what i was trying to point at in the when i was speaking uh before virginity amongst the 0.96

02:51:13.640 folk was held in value but virginity amongst the royalty was held in value for a very different

02:51:20.680 reason so there was the the value of like you know children added on or creating uh

02:51:30.040 you know the possibility of blood feeds etc but for the royalty they wanted to make sure 0.98

02:51:35.800 that the the the feminine coming into their home did not have an illegitimate child of before who 1.00

02:51:42.920 who can make claim to the throne, et cetera. 0.99

02:51:45.380 And so Al-Sheragli is absolutely correct.

02:51:47.080 There's a difference between state

02:51:48.820 and societal love in these matters.

02:51:55.780 I think that's something

02:51:56.440 that we should all be very cognizant.

02:51:58.320 Yeah, and the concept of like the harem proper

02:52:01.760 with like the eunuch guards and stuff, 0.97

02:52:05.760 that's absolutely a Arab thing.

02:52:09.740 And that's not, you know, that's not, I mean, literally draw that picture in your head. 0.91

02:52:17.760 And it's dudes in turbans with the like elf shoes with it's that's that's not ours.

02:52:26.500 So there's a question earlier on or later or it's in the queue about what movies would recommend.

02:52:33.280 And this is making me think of the adventures of Baron von Munchausen.

02:52:37.500 and when when they go to the harem and there is the sultan and all of these beautiful women and

02:52:46.860 then these like kind of dumpy eunuchs that he's got inside of a piano that they poke with spears

02:52:56.300 and he makes music out of it if you have not seen the adventures of baron von munchausen

02:53:01.240 you should absolutely see it and they have a harem with eunuchs in it there you go in the

02:53:08.180 sultan's palace all right so the next question oh and i should i didn't acknowledge this when

02:53:15.040 it came in at 6 40 and i certainly should have all uh austin in wisconsin donated 20

02:53:20.540 phrase off thank you austin we appreciate it uh he says witness fawn from a previous vns episode

02:53:27.800 you said that one of your favorite movies was 58 vikings i watched it and it was superb

02:53:35.440 uh would would recommend it to anyone are there any more movies with heroic or warrior themes

02:53:42.480 that either of you would like uh thanks again uh outside of uh the adventures of baron munchausen

02:53:52.040 Are there other films

02:53:53.820 That you would recommend Svon

02:53:55.440 Yeah one I would definitely recommend

02:53:58.040 Is Braveheart

02:53:58.780 Braveheart was a movie that I

02:54:01.260 Think I watched it 13 times

02:54:03.280 Spoiler alert it is a movie that is

02:54:05.840 Fantasy and not history

02:54:07.220 100% fantasy

02:54:08.780 It is as historical

02:54:11.940 As Sigurd

02:54:13.720 Or the Volsunga saga

02:54:15.520 Is historical

02:54:16.660 So

02:54:19.500 It is fantastical

02:54:22.020 In reality, I've learned a lot about Longshanks and have grown to respect him a little bit.

02:54:28.080 Yeah, he was pretty amazing.

02:54:30.060 Not a bad guy in certain sense.

02:54:32.000 Stabbed an assassin with the assassin's own dagger when he was in the Middle East.

02:54:37.520 Yeah, but what I am getting at is the overall mythos of Braveheart.

02:54:43.880 and some of the um acting without speaking and uh the body language in the movie is so

02:54:53.500 uh groundbreaking in the way that it was done and i think also more importantly is the nobility

02:55:01.760 of love i think that warriors who love is something that i find uh just admirable and

02:55:13.020 And I think that any young man growing up, and I think that's why it hit me so hard and

02:55:18.980 why I watched it 13 times in the theater was because it just made me believe that there

02:55:28.220 was so much beyond the material and beyond just the self, that there was the love that

02:55:41.100 you could have for a for a lady that the undevotional unwavering um just gut-wrenchingly

02:55:52.600 powerful i actually got upset at the character when he kind of turned towards the french maiden

02:55:59.980 but the time had gone and he had that was part of his journey was uh wrestling with the fact that

02:56:06.620 he could not bring his first wife who kept showing up in dreams and visions um he could not bring

02:56:15.500 her back and he was still a warrior and a man and fell you know to the attractions and the

02:56:22.120 the desire but it was never comparable to the love that he first had um and I just phenomenal movie

02:56:31.040 it's three hours long but it is well worth it that first hours all the gushy love stuff that

02:56:36.880 i'm talking about but the rest the two hours after is if you're if you want action you're

02:56:43.320 gonna get it and the gushy throat slitting um yeah there's a lot of that so i used to like

02:56:52.140 braveheart as i've become more a student of history i would like a lot more if it was set

02:56:57.460 in a fantasy universe?

02:56:58.820 Yes, 100%.

02:57:00.240 Like, there's plenty that have good sequences.

02:57:09.320 There's a lot of cool things to be said.

02:57:11.860 I think about 13th Warrior.

02:57:13.640 I really liked the 13th Warrior a lot.

02:57:19.060 There's strange things, 0.99

02:57:21.040 because Antonio Banderas is supposed to be an Arab

02:57:23.540 and does some odd things,

02:57:25.580 but that's also a cool movie i mean there's there's a lot of we could go forever on movies

02:57:33.100 that are are cool that it's like that it brings uh um a little nod towards getting people to look

02:57:40.140 at ibn fablan and the roos is kind of cool yeah i think so and i think that the overall

02:57:48.940 heavy borrowing from beowulf is cool and there's a lot of really interesting things in it and i

02:57:54.060 also like just the way it's done i read it oh there do i hear my father in such pop culture

02:58:01.340 until it was replaced by the repetition of mother uh my mother my mother man they're like the two

02:58:08.260 things that like stuck out so much vikings and that yes a lot of people think that's like a

02:58:15.980 pre-existing thing um no that's cool the original if it causes you to read

02:58:21.940 both the eaters of the dead and fadlon's accounts are all cool places to go from there

02:58:30.460 um i don't i could go all night trying to figure out or or think about movies that have cool uh

02:58:39.660 heroic or warrior themes that are valuable um i will let you know if one comes to me what do you

02:58:45.440 I was also going to say the classics of Shakespeare, but specifically Mel Gibson's Hamlet is a really good movie to watch.

02:58:54.600 It might turn people off if they're not into listening or trying to follow Shakespearean language, but the movie itself is phenomenal. 0.78

02:59:07.360 And it's after the Viking age, but it's still at the point where even though the Danish folk are Christian, they're not Christian.

02:59:21.300 They're still the folk.

02:59:23.240 The blood is not separated.

02:59:24.820 It's just now all of this, you know, espionage and backstabbing is kind of entered in and Macbeth, I mean, sorry, Macbeth Hamlet comes in and says, you know, he's going to cut to the core of it, but then he tries to utilize insanity as a way to get through.

02:59:49.600 and it has a lot of downsides

02:59:51.540 Ophelia kills herself etc etc

02:59:53.500 and finally at the very very end

02:59:55.380 it all comes to a head

02:59:56.420 that I think is a great great movie

02:59:58.880 about a warrior wanting to avenge

03:00:02.200 the wrongful death of his father

03:00:04.520 and all because he notices

03:00:07.120 that his mother goes into the arms

03:00:09.880 of his uncle way too fast

03:00:13.120 like that's a great movie

03:00:16.260 Hamlet and of course to Macbeth

03:00:18.600 which also has the the weird sisters in the beginning which is clearly the norns bringing

03:00:26.960 it back full circle to what we were talking about way earlier in the show the so mcbeth um and

03:00:33.780 by proxy i would even say akira kurosawa's throne of blood that's a mcbeth retelling from a from

03:00:43.160 the japanese perspective which is an interesting thing um and also hamlet top tier

03:00:53.640 ah all right so when you join ausitru do you receive a new name

03:01:01.640 so i'd like to make a point that i do think is significant and this is not like being critical

03:01:09.240 the question because i think it affects the answer to the question

03:01:18.760 you don't like join aussitrue as if it's a new thing you revert to aussitrue aussitrue is your

03:01:27.720 default setting so it's not like you are changing to become something else you are

03:01:35.480 like getting rid of impurity and going back to your natural state which is troth to our gods

03:01:48.040 so that in itself i think affects the answer to this question

03:01:53.480 it's fun do you have would you like to answer this question first

03:01:57.320 yes um well i the default setting comment i hope sierra gets that because

03:02:05.920 that's going to be a good one um and it is absolutely true um no you do not get a new name

03:02:14.940 if anybody hasn't seen the interview between alzharo govi and the uh twitter or x kind of um

03:02:23.600 personality adam green he makes mention of that he says oh you have a very biblical name

03:02:31.340 and i was wondering to myself what he was expecting was he expecting

03:02:35.940 a year ago they did come in and say his name was blood-borne pathogens and son and uh axe wielder

03:02:44.580 again it it just seemed interesting that he even brought it up but um no you don't get a

03:02:53.840 new name um sometimes you find yourself in situations where you have local um

03:03:02.080 local groups kindreds and perhaps you have some issues or what have you but until you

03:03:10.400 get that legally changed that's not your real name stop you know trying to go by uh

03:03:18.400 uh something else unless you change it legally if your name is uh what's that one guy's name

03:03:27.280 that's here ago the smurf hat oh Scott Scott no it wasn't hold on um sorry I'm putting you on the

03:03:38.560 on the jump right there but no I it because it'll it once it gets to me it'll get to me um

03:03:46.000 thorbert thorbert thorbert lindley or something his name's travis travis lily is the the man's

03:03:59.180 name but he insists on people calling him thorbert and he gets really angry if you use his like real

03:04:05.000 name because it like breaks the fourth wall of his like pretend or whatever yeah there's so much

03:04:14.740 theatrics in his uh worshiping of the gods that he creates this character that he has to like fulfill

03:04:23.320 and his name is Travis now if he changed his name to Thorbert legally I could understand that to a

03:04:30.920 degree especially if he doesn't have some ties to his family but if you're named after someone in

03:04:36.560 your family like I was here ago he said to Adam Green um you know the name has it's it's got

03:04:42.600 significance so i'm not going to change it i'm not going to present myself as something i'm not

03:04:47.400 and it's just that simple but on other occasions i have seen where there are like someone who

03:04:53.800 doesn't have familial ties they join a kindred they don't want to be called uh and usually it's

03:05:00.280 something wild like ebuchadnezzar or like uh i don't know like some really jebediah some really

03:05:08.280 crazy biblical name and they want instead to be called something else and i i would always encourage

03:05:15.240 to do that legally and also don't equally go as ridiculous in the other direction so you know you

03:05:22.680 know you do you um my no that is not a common house true thing though i will say in the history

03:05:34.520 of modern house true that was something that the first generation of people founding our modern

03:05:43.720 practice would often do now everyone didn't do that a lot of people did um and they kept their

03:05:54.280 viking name for the rest of their time and used it whatever um i don't think that was ever the norm

03:06:01.960 but it was something that a lot of people did and i think that it was a breakaway function

03:06:09.560 from you know rejecting the christianity to try to embrace this new thing as wholeheartedly as

03:06:17.560 they could and people were just figuring it out that practice quickly um died out or became much

03:06:28.440 more of a seldom thing you have some people that changed their name to their you know viking name

03:06:38.280 that they adopted you have a number of people that maybe when they were learning about asa true

03:06:48.280 one of the elders that they learned under would would give them a name and that stuck sometimes

03:06:55.560 became a nickname and then kind of became default their name um i think those things happen over

03:07:02.840 time but there's no need to do that and i don't feel like i have to do that i don't feel like i'm

03:07:10.760 not legitimate because my name's matthew um that said i wouldn't name my children hebrew names

03:07:17.480 um and didn't i would encourage everyone to name their children um non you know that name their

03:07:28.820 children white people names and you know i think it's valuable to name your children

03:07:36.140 after um family members that were important to you or perhaps after heroes um but again you can

03:07:44.500 do a lot of that without passing on Hebrew names. Gothi David James, again, David James

03:07:55.700 was one of those early, early people. He didn't change his name to not be, you know, the founder

03:08:05.860 of the the the kingdom of the jews um but he did he did a seminar at the first first afa event i

03:08:16.820 ever went to where he talked about naming tradition and how if you wanted to honor

03:08:22.980 someone with maybe a christian name or a hebrew name that they had you could kind of rework that

03:08:32.260 into something more attuned with with our folk and our heritage you could take what the name because

03:08:40.820 names don't just sound nice they all have a meaning well what does your you know what does

03:08:45.460 your hebrew name mean what would that be you know what would the equivalency to that concept or that

03:08:54.660 idea be in a germanic language and then we could work with that and so there's something to be said

03:09:02.100 for that. But no, I think that it is what it is. And I think that it is very easy to look inauthentic

03:09:13.000 or LARPy or to look silly when you embrace Ausatru and then demand people call you,

03:09:19.560 you know, Ragnar Skull Splitter or something instead of, you know, your actual name that you

03:09:26.860 came into the world with. The other thing is names have value. Your name was given to you by your

03:09:32.820 parents. You find yourself with decades of hymenia built around your name and your identity in the

03:09:41.000 world. Casting off your name and embracing a different name, there is a metaphysical thing

03:09:50.140 that happens with that um so that's something to consider but no i don't advise that people

03:09:57.320 change their names to a some kind of a viking name that's not a thing that's not something

03:10:02.980 most people do that is a very rare thing that you might still see today and it's it would be a very

03:10:09.040 odd odd thing to see to somebody you know under you know before pre their mid 40s i'd say

03:10:17.600 i um i would anybody who's interested or if they're having children i would deeply recommend

03:10:24.460 that you go to um the website called behind the name it is a very good website it breaks

03:10:32.980 names up into different groups very clearly concisely it has nordic and separately germanic

03:10:40.640 has anglo-saxon and it gives them the the meanings of the names um it is where well it's not where

03:10:49.100 but it's it was it's substantiated my reason for naming like naming my son eldred which is an

03:10:56.560 anglo-saxon name and um and not an icelandic name like people might have some sort of bone with that

03:11:03.480 why why didn't you name them icelandic names and my daughter's name's an etruscan name to be honest

03:11:10.160 um but there's reasons behind her name as well um but yeah i just saw that uh i named my son

03:11:18.480 ivor and i immediately went to behind the name to look it up and there's gaelic equivalencies

03:11:25.280 for ivor there's a lot of different ones and uh the root of it is ear the y-r like the rune

03:11:35.040 the the yew tree the ear rune or the ear dollar that ular lives and hair uh a warrior so it's a

03:11:45.120 bowman uh the the yew tree warrior is no doubt a kenning for a bowman or a spear no a spear was ash

03:11:57.760 but yew trees were specifically used for bows there you go yeah while we're on it real quick um

03:12:06.800 i would point to don't name your kids or your pets after the icu yes yeah don't do that that's

03:12:14.400 also something that gothe david james was talking about at that very first um thing that i went to um

03:12:21.440 that's not trying to call anybody out people you know you find yourself in the situation you find

03:12:31.480 yourself in but that's it sucks that's not a practice that i would emulate i don't think

03:12:38.560 that's something to do it's certainly not something our ancestors did what gothe james

03:12:43.780 pointed out at the time though was that if you wanted to include the name of a god in the naming

03:12:52.020 of your child through some kind of special dedication or whatever there was a lot of

03:12:56.900 compound names that our ancestors would do uh thorstein thorbjorn um thoralf thoralf uh there's

03:13:07.460 a lot of different ways to do that that still honors the god or goddess that you want to honor

03:13:16.980 but that isn't inappropriate and i don't think that a lot of people do that intentionally to

03:13:25.860 be blasphemous but it's not a practice that we that's appropriate to to continue or to keep

03:13:34.420 doing so it's nice to find a respectful way to do that yeah and even our ancestors you know they

03:13:42.340 seem to not that's why they did the compound names yeah so there's a way to honor the gods

03:13:50.100 with your naming if that's something you want to do in a way that's not um a one-for-one direct

03:13:57.300 naming your kid the name of one of the gods um today my great aunt uh lillian passed through

03:14:06.340 the veil she was 97 and a christian her whole life do i honor her during bloat

03:14:14.100 that might be a little again just nomenclature things bloats not typically something that we

03:14:21.620 honor ancestors too except for it like a dc or bloat or an alphar bloat um but yes you should

03:14:28.740 honor her she's one of your ancestors a lot of our you know there is there is one generation of our

03:14:35.460 ancestors that we shouldn't honor because the fact that they are christian and that's the generation

03:14:43.620 that broke from our gods all the generations since then that's what they were most often born into

03:14:53.380 the only thing they knew the best that they knew to do during their time and while it's

03:14:59.460 sad that they didn't come home to the iser in life um i hope and assume that that that's been

03:15:07.620 rectified on the other side of the veil and as long as they were you know your family who were

03:15:15.620 people that are worth honoring otherwise i would absolutely honor them and raise the horns to them

03:15:20.420 at sumble and you know perhaps call upon her during a dc or bloat um but yes you should

03:15:27.860 absolutely do that uh all of us the vast majority of people that get hailed during the ancestor round

03:15:34.900 assembled were christians their entire life some of them were you know priests or pastors

03:15:43.140 or whatever else so please don't let that be a bar for you to honor your ancestors again outside

03:15:51.300 of that first generation that forsook our gods christianity has stated that it is a sword that

03:15:57.780 separates how so true does not we encourage you to and the thing is things are real or they're not 0.71

03:16:06.580 after death things get sorted out and i don't think that you know the the magical rabbi gets

03:16:13.700 to steal the souls of our ancestors i don't think that's how the natural world functions um

03:16:21.460 but who influenced how did snorri just bring greek influenced myths into norse mythology

03:16:33.540 a way of hellenizing the greek or the germanic peoples uh svan you have thoughts on this yeah

03:16:40.260 we've spoken about this at great length which you asked i have spoken about it in great length to

03:16:47.300 the chagrin of everyone else no i'll just keep it brief uh the school in which snorri wrote and

03:16:56.180 comprised the totality of the poems and the reason why it's called the codex regis or regius uh is

03:17:06.660 because of uh simon wrote the stories down they were being orally told and he was writing them

03:17:14.740 down in latin because the nordic language had not quite decided whether or not it was going to

03:17:21.620 continue using runic script or you'd be utilizing latin lettering or what exact

03:17:27.140 latin letterings were going to be used in order to express the sounds that everyone was saying

03:17:32.820 so uh they taking the oral tradition and turning it into a written tradition is a big topic but

03:17:42.340 But one of the other things is that all the classical literature taught at schools and Snorri is no different.

03:17:48.960 He went to Norway. He was a friend of the king.

03:17:51.880 And all of the classic learning of the time always lent towards classical literature of the Greeks and the Romans.

03:17:59.360 And what Snorri was trying to do was to equivalent our stories and have them brought up into everyone's minds as being equal with.

03:18:12.940 And so the intricacies of poetry and all of that that was going on was, again, surpassed by the Mediterranean stuff.

03:18:22.060 And he was trying to bring it back in.

03:18:23.920 So you will find some parallels there.

03:18:25.960 You'll also find some parallels to the hemorrhization and you will find things that he attempts to state out front.

03:18:37.060 So that way the church doesn't get its hackles up and then he can keep to the really close.

03:18:44.580 It was very, very, I don't think he edited a lot at all.

03:18:49.080 I think it was very close to what was being spoken to Simon.

03:18:53.120 But there may be some filling points or presentation in between the poems, the actual prose, that substantiates that the Nordic Aryan was not much different from the Hellenic Aryan, and that they viewed the gods in very similar ways.

03:19:15.360 and we could you could debate certain things um especially when we talk about the tripartite and

03:19:24.460 all that stuff and i'm not going down that hole but i had to mention it for those who are drinking

03:19:28.400 in the back um but uh he did uh some small amounts to equivalent the two but i think he was doing it

03:19:42.500 the genuine sense that we're not much different as far as that our stories and their stories

03:19:47.940 ultimately source from the same place the same peoples but um as far as him just walk like you

03:19:57.380 know i don't know oil like olive oil washing the the norse myth is not not uh a correct like uh

03:20:07.060 accusation all right uh hello i'll hear you go through matt witness fawn and folk builder nick

03:20:15.300 can difficult deeds be an offering to the icer for example if someone were to quit smoking and

03:20:22.420 dedicate the personal struggle to the icer would that be a suitable offering thank you for all you

03:20:28.500 do it's fine let's say you okay my yes it's nuanced um i do believe i speak often at uh thor

03:20:41.300 software i say your bloat began the moment you stepped out the front door you know you gather

03:20:47.540 your kids in the car you travel across miles and miles of concrete um to come and honor your gods

03:20:54.740 that's part of the worth ship you are doing all of that because you feel that the gods are worthy

03:21:02.260 of it because of all that they have done and all that they have made for us so deed is

03:21:10.660 sacred um however i've all the unfortunate part of that is i've seen people abuse or twist that

03:21:18.660 in ways so that's what makes me reticent to say like 100 uh you have to be very careful

03:21:26.340 but if you are if you are proclaiming oaths and those oaths say i'm gonna quit smoking or what

03:21:34.900 have you um and it it it might tie in other people around you and if you fail you hurt them

03:21:43.140 etc so you should take great care in the deeds that you do um

03:21:51.780 but ultimately on a soft sense of that if you get better if you because of the gods

03:21:59.300 if the gods come you revert to default settings and take on the challenges of your life and meet

03:22:10.980 the future with a smiling face and you change your mindset and you change your heart and you

03:22:17.060 build better relationships with your family and you build community with your folk etc all of

03:22:22.100 that is sacred all of that is why the gods want us to come home so i would say yes the deed is

03:22:33.300 a form of sacrifice but i mean that in a very soft sense when you get into the details

03:22:38.740 when someone says i'm gonna lose weight and i swear or make an oath or or what have you

03:22:44.500 i think that stuff you shouldn't go down that path so much um as you should attempt and keep

03:22:52.740 moving forward and keep striving and and keep working with yourself and the gods that's that

03:23:01.300 is part of what i think they're watching they're watching us at the well of urd in heaven and

03:23:07.380 determining the worth of the folk and they will mark you as good or bad or truly honorable or

03:23:16.420 noble or dishonorable or ignorable um based off of your deeds so yes doing good stuff and

03:23:28.340 dedicating that accomplishment to the gods is a way of offering just that's it it is true i mean

03:23:37.100 it is and it kind of ends there it depends on there's people that want to formalize it in

03:23:43.580 a ritual or do whatever i believe very much that doing something good and then in your

03:23:52.060 moment of spotlight for doing something good dedicate the accomplishment to the gods to the

03:23:58.220 ancestors to a hero to somebody important i think that's a nice way to honor someone i mean it's the

03:24:06.140 same way that if you win an award and you go up there and you're like this wind goes out to my

03:24:12.140 great grandma susie big up susie that's a nice way to honor your great grandma i think it's also a

03:24:20.140 nice way to honor the gods to dedicate an accomplishment to them and i think that's a

03:24:25.260 nice thing to do i often say especially this time of year when we're celebrating sigur bloat that

03:24:30.860 we worship with our deeds as much as we worship with, you know, offerings poured into the horn.

03:24:37.600 We worship with stacking victories and the names of our gods and our folk. So I think that's very

03:24:42.600 relevant and very, you know, appropriate. How should one handle political disagreements within

03:24:50.500 the AFA? I would like to think that all members are on the same quote unquote side, which is for

03:24:57.480 the folk swan what say you well i think no matter where you are on that spectrum you the the priority

03:25:07.720 of it in is to be for the folk i have met people in many different political ideological uh orbits

03:25:17.320 or gravitational pulls um from uh minarchist and libertarians to nationalists etc met people from

03:25:29.560 all over the afa having different spots some spots unquantifiable in their political stuff but always

03:25:37.960 pro folk and that's the way it always should be in any ideology or any political spectrum

03:25:45.800 that is against the folk is not ausitrue it is because ausitrue is an ethnic faith and

03:25:52.840 anything that's against the ethnicity of the very people that the religion comes from it is not

03:25:59.960 ausitrue uh so within the afa specifically i think that's that is the case that works

03:26:10.040 uh most often is that everyone still no matter where they're if they believe that we should have

03:26:15.240 minimalist government or whether we should have more of a an authoritative uh government or a

03:26:21.160 monarchy it doesn't matter because they're always thinking about that what is best for the folk but

03:26:28.600 when you have globalism and when you have the degenerating of the family and when you have

03:26:34.440 tearing down of the western civilization or even i would go so far to say is germanic ethos of

03:26:44.280 society um that's not also true and that that should be addressed um that should be argued

03:26:54.600 vehemently against if it is against the folk so spawn mentioned the spectrum at the beginning

03:27:03.000 and i think that's where i would like to start don't be autistic about your politics within the

03:27:09.080 afa on stuff and purity spiral it's really easy and and i i say that not really half jokingly

03:27:17.880 because that's what i see happening i say it i guess in a humorous way but

03:27:25.800 politics are downstream from religion and i think one of the reasons that that is not self-evident

03:27:33.400 is we count a lot of things today as politics that aren't politics your core values are not

03:27:42.120 politics and we try to pretend that they are and they're not politics in a fundamental way

03:27:48.920 are about legislation or candidates they're about means towards ends

03:27:55.800 there can be a great degree of approaches to the betterment of our folk through different means

03:28:04.600 it's the intention that matters a lot politics is shaped by the time and the environment and

03:28:13.720 myriad factors that don't necessarily have an overt right or wrong religiously

03:28:21.160 there are certain things like swan said that are anti the gods that are anti our race that are anti

03:28:29.700 the core nobility of our people and those things there's not there's much less variance on the

03:28:40.200 spectrum of what's appropriate what's not in those cases but i do think we need to extend each other

03:28:46.560 certain amount of grace that there is a wide variety of different answers approaches and ideas

03:28:54.480 on the best way to achieve nobility for our folk dignity for our race a future for our children

03:29:04.320 there are a lot of ways to go at that and your

03:29:09.600 views on that that you may hold very very strongly are not necessarily shared by other

03:29:15.760 people especially when we live in a time where we function with a variety of different truths

03:29:23.520 out there unfortunately we lack the transparency to know objective truth and a lot of things

03:29:35.280 so different people take their truth and their facts from different sources and we often find

03:29:42.400 competing facts that from each person's perspective look equally true a lot of time extend the grace

03:29:50.960 that maybe the person you're arguing with politically just doesn't know

03:29:58.320 also hold out that perhaps maybe there's something that you might not know

03:30:03.040 it's not fair to base your political assumptions or to judge other people's political assumptions

03:30:14.640 based upon your political assumptions because very often we're talking about two completely

03:30:21.680 separate things right that's really important going both ways and always especially when you go

03:30:28.560 So, perhaps at different parts of the country, perhaps generationally, there's things that

03:30:36.820 a prior generation believes are true that you might know to not be true.

03:30:42.160 There may be things that you think are true that other people in a different place in

03:30:46.780 a different time with their full best of their knowledge don't believe are true or accurate.

03:30:54.280 So try to extend grace with your brothers and sisters in the House True Folk Assembly, trusting that their heart is in the right place and that their goals are noble, even if you would choose a different route towards those goals.

03:31:09.060 so yeah it it all depends there's fundamentals that are hard nose but there's also a lot of

03:31:14.740 variants of you know different ideas that are are different approaches to a similar

03:31:24.580 problem or towards a similar end um

03:31:28.740 Last question of the night. What are your thoughts on Varg's writings on Norse paganism?

03:31:42.040 The Varg question. We haven't had one of those in a while.

03:31:45.420 A lot of people still pay attention to him.

03:31:49.780 um it's so strange um yeah uh so we've spoken about i

03:32:08.420 one i think the name varger is very fitting for him to hold he lives in the outskirts i'm very

03:32:16.900 glad that yeah he's been bound to the gods have blessed him with good children or many children

03:32:22.840 etc but um he lives on the outskirts and in reality that is the entirety of him is him living

03:32:30.920 on the outskirts means that he he kind of gives these points in and i mean that's kind of about

03:32:39.580 it it's like the man yelling on top of the hill into the city about placentas um it just

03:32:47.500 he's not involved he's not growing in it he's just making proclamations and ultimately when

03:32:56.580 you dig deep enough his proclamations are secular he has said it himself and i i certainly think he

03:33:05.420 can come back from that but he it wouldn't it would require him to step into the town

03:33:11.180 and start helping his fellow folk um in in the town and in the country he lives in but

03:33:19.160 he's quite content on you know screaming from the internet and uh he has some interesting things as

03:33:29.740 far as um just notions and ideas but i think they fall short on their isolation

03:33:36.240 yeah i am not impressed i don't think varg has anything of value to offer um

03:33:51.040 Varg is not

03:33:52.820 Ousitru. I don't

03:33:54.940 believe that he 0.99

03:33:57.000 is religious

03:33:59.040 in any sense.

03:34:01.680 Literally

03:34:02.820 everything is some kind of

03:34:05.080 a relation to

03:34:07.120 his wife's placentas

03:34:09.360 on things. 1.00

03:34:11.460 That's 0.94

03:34:12.660 silly. 0.92

03:34:15.920 Again, 1.00

03:34:17.160 he lives off in his

03:34:19.140 own little

03:34:19.820 private enclave of existence. Looks like he has beautiful family. That's awesome.

03:34:26.440 But I don't think he has anything to offer about House of True. He isn't House of True. He doesn't

03:34:31.580 practice House of True. And I really, you know, don't think he has anything to add to the

03:34:36.680 conversation. I find his things to be, his takes are way too simplistic and they're insulting in

03:34:52.920 their simplicity. And they're also just wrong. Like they're just fundamentally wrong on the face

03:34:58.640 of it. I'm not sure why he's such a perennial thing that folks ask about or whatever. I know

03:35:07.480 some people, you know, liked his music or whatever, but I don't think he has anything to offer to the

03:35:13.760 conversation. And I think if anything, he's kind of a distraction from genuine and sincere

03:35:21.780 dissemination of our faith to new people who are interested that said thank you everyone

03:35:28.660 who joined us this evening um it's always nice getting to talk to you guys uh taking a week

03:35:35.620 week off there when brandy did her part is just lets me know how much i i look forward to this

03:35:42.340 every week so uh it's been nice talking to you guys nice uh spending the evening discussing our

03:35:48.740 lore with my good friends fawn i missed a question somewhere i don't know where it went but they asked

03:35:54.500 why i was drinking out of the drinking horn this evening it's because fawn gave it to me as a gift

03:35:59.220 um i didn't see that yeah yeah as at uh cigar bloat and uh yeah it's cool it's handy and it

03:36:07.380 works really well for our for our purposes um but yeah it was nice talking to you guys i got

03:36:13.380 something special next week to go over a little slideshow about afa history that i was going to

03:36:21.940 do at sigger bloat at sigerheim but it didn't work out uh we had some technical difficulties

03:36:29.140 so we should have it ready for you and i'll invite some different afa luminaries on to discuss it

03:36:35.700 and uh hopefully have a fun show for you guys next week um until then

03:36:44.100 make plans to go to uh baldershoff for freyfaxi if you can

03:36:49.380 uh hail the icer hell the folk hell the afa remember victory never sleeps

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Asatru Folk Assembly - August 07, 2025

8⧸6⧸25 Victory Never Sleeps, Episode 161 - Fáfnismál

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