00:06:08.740two months and like 11 days worth of fundraising we've been able to raise
00:06:14.420ten thousand dollars for phrase off that is tremendous you guys continue to amaze and
00:06:20.900it's much appreciated so that's how that's going which you know is very well we're very excited
00:06:26.660about it uh since last time yeah since last time i got to speak with you guys we had uh
00:06:36.340sigger bloat number three at sigger hame in jackson county tennessee it was a fantastic weekend um
00:06:47.460it was humid it was humid it was sweaty but it was a fantastic weekend wouldn't have traded it
00:06:52.980for anything. It was wonderful. Um, I enjoyed, thank you, everyone who came out, uh, and
00:06:58.160participated with us. It was tremendous. It is a truly magical place and, uh, feel like
00:07:05.700Lord Tyr and the rest of the, the Aesir smiled upon us then and, uh, then and since. So I'm
00:07:13.920really appreciative of that and hope you guys made it. Um, we appreciate whatever level
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00:07:28.540you'd like to do but where the where the magic happens is when you get together with others of
00:07:35.420your folk to stand before the gods united as a folk in faith with your brothers and sisters of
00:07:43.020the afa worshiping our gods together and that's no place better expressed than at our hofs
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00:08:22.860Thorshoff. Waltershoff is in Murdoch, Minnesota. And Mjordshoff is in White Springs, Florida. So
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00:10:38.280That said, other announcements before we start the show.
00:10:49.080And we've been talking about this for some time and we went ahead and recognized three
00:10:56.280new well newly recognized as a true heroes um the first one was janskega which iron beard
00:11:09.720who was a uh a norwegian local local farmer and leader in uh freeman with holdings that was a
00:11:21.400leader in his community and a stalwart worshiper of Aosathor when Olaf Tryggvason was trying to
00:11:34.120rip our people away from Troth to our gods with fire and sword Yarnskega and men in his company
00:11:43.560did their best to take a stand and to stay true to the Aesir in an act of trickery when
00:11:52.680the king and some of his retainers wanted to, yeah, let's participate in this festival you're
00:11:58.440doing. Show us into the Hoff. We'll celebrate with you. They got into the Hoff and ripped down the
00:12:05.640idol of thor and become desecrating the hof and uh yarn skegia stood in defense and was cut down
00:12:14.280by olav and his men on the steps of the hof defending our gods and for that in his loyalty
00:12:21.400in the face of death we uh blew him and we honor him henceforth with a day of remembrance i gotta
00:12:28.120check the calendar now i want to say may the 5th is his day of remembrance
00:12:36.840may the 9th ah may the night okay that's why okay that's why i had the five in my head
00:12:42.680i'm sorry i apologize yes may the 9th um also two people that you know much to to
00:12:54.840my shame i had never heard of until very recently um but also worthy of celebrating as
00:13:04.200also true heroes and recognizing two swedes from the 15th century which is a way after the viking
00:13:15.400Yeah, it's a special time for us to honor practitioners of our faith. At this time, the formal practice of our religion had died out and you had these individuals that were called to the gods that sought out relationship with them and worship of them in small, isolated, maybe families, maybe real small group of friends.
00:13:45.400sins, maybe just as individuals reaching out to the gods and the gods reaching back.
00:13:51.520Both of these men were devoted and admitted openly on pain of death that they were devoted
00:14:00.720to the Allfather Odin and they were his men.
00:14:08.680two men are Eirik Karlsson, no Klaassen, Eirik Klaassen and he'll be honored on June the 13th
00:14:20.120each years each year and Rackenwald Odia Karl and Rackenwald was
00:14:31.240at his trial before his execution, he said that he had been a follower of Odin for seven years
00:14:41.360at that time. So we don't know a great deal about either of those two men. But what we do know is
00:14:48.500that when on trial in the face of certain death at the stake, they both stood firm that they were
00:15:01.120followers of Odin and Unrepentant and Alsatruor. And as such, they met their death in the flames.
00:15:09.120So at a time where very few were doing it, and it was certainly not a popular thing to do,
00:15:15.120these two men stood loyal to the All-Father under their death.
00:15:23.520That's the top of the show things I have today. As always, our shows are heavily,
00:15:29.920you know question and answer driven so if you have questions please ask them we will be sure
00:15:35.520to answer all questions that come our way uh also if you ever have a question for the show
00:15:41.760at any point in time you can mail you can email those to us and we will answer them on the next
00:15:47.600show we have a couple excuse me you have a couple of people who do that we have some randoms and we
00:15:52.800We have some that regularly send questions there.
00:19:46.880um so uh g's funny because it makes almost a silent sound depending on where it's at
00:19:55.240sometimes it makes a g noise it often makes a hard k noise yes like in uh in uh rockenwald
00:20:04.620or how it's spelled is rag and rag with a g and um i i saw that you or i heard that you did that
00:20:14.000And I was like, yeah, this is kind of a point I wanted to make about language and studying languages and attempting to pronounce and looking at modern Icelandic versus Old Norse creates these misnomers.
00:20:33.060and yeah the the uh and in icelandic and old norse it's funny because it's depending on the
00:20:42.660age and the text it's interchangeably og or okay yeah or either translates and is acceptable
00:20:52.180i tend to find that the oh uh was it okay often in the old norse and og in modern icelandic but
00:21:00.820yes exact same exact same noise yeah and again it's an understanding that uh and we spoke about
00:21:10.820this on bns about the sagas when simon did was writing down the stories from from poets in the
00:21:20.660oral tradition he wrote it in latin and the reason why he did that is because at the time
00:21:26.260time, Nordic culture was trying to figure out whether or not it was going to continue writing
00:21:31.720in runic or utilizing Latin letters. And there are some works written during that time in
00:21:41.980Younger Futhark. So that's a really cool time that that was kind of happening. But eventually,
00:21:49.460No, you're going to do Latin letters. And then it was about which Latin letters would be utilized in certain ways. And so there's this evolution of language. And as Central European languages were affected by Latin, it so too affected the Norse and the Norwegian and the Danes.
00:22:13.840Um, so there's a constant shift, I think, um, of language. So it's, that makes it difficult as well. And so for any people that are, uh, having problems with pronunciation, or anyone who, um, you know, kind of goes in and says, well, no, it's not pronounced that way.
00:22:38.620you you have to give people leeway there is there is an absolute valid reason why
00:22:45.100a lot of folks get things wrong it's okay um and we're you know as we go we are we are learning
00:22:55.160more and more and going from there but um so we have uh see and i want to do it right now
00:23:04.900Regen or Rayen, as I would call him. So we have Rayen and he is the smith that forges Sigurd's
00:23:16.600sword back together, his father's sword. And Sigurd, this was the scene where he grabs the
00:23:25.000sword and he hits it against an anvil and it breaks, the sword breaks. And then he says,
00:23:32.940forge it again and he forges it again and then he hits the anvil and it breaks he says forge it
00:23:39.580again and then the third time of course uh he hits it and splits the anvil and twain so he and uh
00:23:51.980rayon form this relationship and rayon is secretly malicious he wants the treasure of his brother
00:24:02.380fafnir who can shape change and has shape changed into a dragon so he wants this treasure and now
00:24:08.940he finds someone who is perhaps youthful dumb in his opinion um or you know if he fails it's
00:24:20.220no loss to him and then he can try some other way that's absolutely how he is painted in this but
00:24:27.260poetic measure doesn't give a lot for um uh hidden meanings so bear that in mind as we go here
00:24:41.340rayon is going to lead sigurd to the cave where fafner is and he knows exactly how to strike the
00:24:53.580dragon sigurd says i don't know what we're gonna i've never fought a dragon before i don't know
00:24:58.380exactly what to do and rayon's like no no you're gonna dig a pit and he's gonna come down for
00:25:03.820water and you're going to hit him then so he had known this um and was already or perhaps i don't
00:25:14.060know but it's never mentioned but perhaps he's tried this before uh with other warriors so
00:25:20.540So ultimately, before we even start, it's worth noting, Reigen and Sigurd are friends, but Reigen is secretly deceptive, ultimately wanting to kill Sigurd.
00:25:40.620And the way he's going to do that is he's going to consume the blood of the dragon, which will give him superpower so then he can kill the hero.
00:25:50.540And Fafnir is the dragon who, again, it's never specified that, or it's always a general understanding that Fafnir and Reyn are people, humans, but they have connections to the dwarves and obviously sheep changing magic, etc.
00:26:15.120era so they are also too akin of an extraordinary beings but they're never mentioned as simply being
00:26:25.200uh like they're witches or warlocks and this is a strange kind of note this exists in a kind of
00:28:36.600We appreciate everybody who's been so generous to us.
00:28:42.200All right. So we set in. Sigurd and Reyn went up to Nita Heath. Now it's worth remembering Nita's kind of, it's almost like a heath on a plateau, but ultimately it's a barren place.
00:29:11.420It's seen as a more or almost as if I would think if this was done continentally, it would be very similar to lowland Germans going into the Danish area, but that the land was at a rise and then, you know, went into a marsh, more water swamp area.
00:29:41.420And they go there, and there they found the track of Fafnir, made when he crawled to the water.
00:29:50.180Then Sigurd made a great trench across the path and took his place therein.
00:29:56.580When Fafnir crawled from his gold, he blew out venom, and it ran down from above Sigurd's head.
00:30:05.160But when Fafnir crawled over the trench, then Sigurd thrust his sword into the body and straight to the heart of Fafnir.
00:30:16.920Fafnir arrived and struck out with his head and tail.
00:30:21.580Sigurd leaped out of the trench and each looked at the other.
00:30:28.620So this, you don't hear this in the Volsanga saga.
00:30:32.540This is going into detail in a moment, and I think that's really amazing.
00:30:37.820It's also worth noting that with Reinsmo and Fafnusmo, there is no indication that this is a different poem.
00:30:49.460It just keeps going, but the styles are completely different.
00:30:55.240And that's what makes scholars believe that these are two separate poems could join together, obviously, because of their time in the story.
00:32:31.000So he knows immediately that Sigurd is being deceptive, that he's hiding his name because none can be born without father, without mother, not even the gods.
00:32:48.420The mortal world is a reflection of the divine world.
00:32:54.200And so we see the dragon knows immediately that he's speaking of unnaturalness.
00:33:06.660All right, guys, we have some of these poems here that Svon and I are going to cover this week and in the coming weeks.
00:33:17.440some of them are short we may lump some together we may do them all individually but we are going
00:33:22.960to take a little bit of liberties on going on little little side paths when they come up um
00:33:31.600this i think is a point of really interesting really interesting value that comes to us
00:33:39.520that there is power in naming something, and also that there is enhanced power and taboos
00:33:57.180around last words, the last requests, or the utterances of someone in the throes of death.
00:34:06.160And so I guess last part first, at the moment of death, a couple of really interesting things
00:34:29.400are occurring. Your soul is in a flux between this world and
00:34:39.400the next. And you occupy a special place in the matrix
00:34:49.040between worlds. Also, our speech in our regular life is very much conditioned by
00:35:02.380the restraints of the conscious mind, by all of the expectations and things that we know,
00:35:15.360by all of our hesitancies about being embarrassed or about saying the wrong thing or about pretense
00:35:24.480all of the different governors on our speech on our action that restrict them in a certain way
00:35:32.960and when we talk about the numinous or the metaphysical or the magical
00:35:37.680being in a sober and completely straight place when you're talking
00:35:45.500has a lot of governors that get in the way of magical efficacy.
00:36:06.220They come from often the lower, and they come in strange ways or through strange ritual.
00:36:17.020They come from a deeper part of yourself, or a lot of the power comes from a deeper part of yourself.
00:36:23.920There's something that I think fundamentally we know to be true.
00:36:26.920Um, women tend to be motivated by more of those primal, uh, or alchemically liquid places.
00:36:45.900they tend to embody those things in a different way and I think it's one of the reasons that our
00:36:54.580ancestors that it's one of the reasons that women tend to be more associated with that kind of
00:37:02.160primal magical efficacy I think it's a reason that our ancestors listen to them in a special way
00:37:09.620where sometimes their counsel on logical or tactical things is different, but their counsel
00:37:16.400on primal, magical, otherworldly things tends to be more keen oftentimes than men's or certainly
00:37:25.320more easy to access. There's something, all of these things sound disjointed. I promise there's
00:37:31.920a method to my madness, even if they seem random, because I'm looping a lot of things together.
00:37:35.780Before we develop all of our cognitive hure and thought process on everything, we communicate a lot more instinctively.
00:37:50.120There's a reason that little kids and animals see haints better than adults and rational grown people because they don't have the same restrictions.
00:38:04.320And if you'll indulge me one more, and I'm putting it out there, no offense to the developmentally delayed, but it's also part of retard strength.
00:38:15.320There's something that happens when you don't have the preconception of what you're supposed to be able to do, and you just do, that you're able to access a reservoir of power that's much greater because it's not conditioned.
00:38:33.360You don't have the governors on it. You don't have, you have no idea what you're supposed to be able to lift. You just go and you do what you do because maybe you're mad or maybe you're excited or whatever and see what happens.
00:38:44.420There's something to that. So when you find yourself intoxicated, when you find yourself in agony or in some kind of an altered state, or at these moments where you're straddling the line between life and death,
00:39:09.840your connection between that center of power is
00:39:17.560much less encumbered and I think that we you know culturally what I think has stayed with us
00:39:29.760besides you know the magic of it all we all understand there's something special about a
00:39:36.080last request or about somebody getting to say final words. Somebody who's dying getting to
00:39:45.180have that last burst of will being expressed in Midgard is something we all recognize as having
00:39:54.520a potency. Also, depending upon what they're going through in that dying process, them summoning up
00:40:04.040the raw will to express themselves is often such a guttural digging deep into the ur self or the
00:40:19.220primal strength to get it out it has a potency to it so there's something magically expressive about
00:40:26.000that. Also, names mean stuff. They're not just convenient ways for us to differentiate or
00:40:39.000communicate. There's power in a name. It's why one of our big foundational ceremonies in Ausatru,
00:40:47.360the al-savotny has all that sprinkling of water to affix a name to something makes a difference
00:40:56.760naming a weapon naming a ship naming something makes it not just a thing but it makes it have
00:41:06.820a soul now when i say that it doesn't make it have all of the components that make
00:41:14.660a human soul unless you are naming a child but it makes it something other it separates it from
00:41:24.420you know this penny that penny oh i've got my pile of swords let me grab one those are all swords
00:41:32.320but i will relentless there is something different and other that makes it a storehouse
00:41:43.460of energy, for good or for bad, of luck, for good or for bad. Same with a person. It's why I think
00:41:52.000it is very important, and I try to make this point often at Sumble. Speak the name of your ancestor.
00:42:02.320I remember, you know, if I may, and I'm going to anyways, first Sumble I was at was Fawn at
00:42:11.680winter nights, he was trying to raise a horn to, I think, both of his Icelandic grandparents.
00:42:19.920But their names didn't come naturally to an English speaker's tongue. They were difficult
00:42:24.800to get. So it was kind of getting brushed by as, you know, people's kind of, hell. I mean,
00:42:32.140people were making the effort to say the name, but I stopped and I said, no, what, how do you
00:42:39.520say their names because i wanted to say them out loud because that has a magical potency much more
00:42:46.680than hail grandma hail swan's grandma nice gesture and i don't think it's worthless but i think it is
00:42:55.940greatly enhanced when you use a name our ancestors believed this that's why you don't want to give
00:43:04.780people to your name because then they can direct energy at you in a special way then they can
00:43:13.500curse you or whatever they're going to do speaking a name
00:43:22.620i realize that stuff i even as i'm saying it i realize how much nonsense this might sound like0.98
00:43:28.780I promise the thought process makes more sense. I hope some of it clicks to you. It's really hard
00:43:36.000to express these things in a way that's easily accessible. But when you speak generally,
00:43:44.060you take a thought or an intention and you manifest it in the world in a different way.
00:43:48.780Now it's no longer something you're thinking or something you're like projecting in your head.
00:43:53.760we're vocalizing it other people can hear it the gods can hear it it's spoken into the world
00:44:01.680when you further speak it and direct it with specificity at a name it also has more power
00:44:11.440and so all of these different little concepts of
00:44:16.480of magic and of sending, be it blessing, curse, spell, incantation, are in this couplet of lines
00:44:30.400that I think, if nothing else, makes this poem a valuable thing for us to read. It's certainly,
00:44:38.320man i probably read this poem for the first time in 2002 um but this exact sequence has
00:44:46.880always stuck out to me because it is so important for that and it is
00:44:57.440almost exactly a year ago just a little bit more a year ago when uh my friend gothi thorgrin passed
00:45:03.600he was it was one of those processes of dying where he was very out of it and on uh morphine
00:45:13.380to ease his passing and it was one of those we're just going to wait and let him slip away but he's
00:45:19.540dying and when I got there to visit him that last time he summoned this
00:45:28.820uh uncanny and very special like he was way out of it but when his wife informed him that i was there
00:45:38.600something came over him to where all of a sudden you know he was limp he was just
00:45:44.580zoned out out of his mind with the different processes of dying and the morphine
00:45:50.560And all of a sudden he gripped my hand with, you know, a firm manly grip, got clear eyed, looked me straight in the face and he told me something.
00:46:02.020And then he went back into that, that, you know, that in between space that he was and proceeded with his process of dying.
00:46:11.540That'll stick out with me for the rest of my life.
00:46:14.080And it was encouragement and compliment, but it was deeply, deeply meaningful.
00:46:23.740And it's, you know, it's this same thing, but the Leostab version.
00:46:30.500But there's a power in those kind of last words that someone speaks on their deathbed.
00:46:36.060carry on we've made it like oh yeah you kind of dropped it it's like
00:46:50.160that's a i mean it is a it is a very powerful subject that people don't think about
00:46:57.340that the attaching of the name the completion of the soul the introduction into the folk
00:47:04.220And matter of fact, the next part of it kind of lends to that.
00:47:09.000And we have been so far removed from the significance of it by Christianity and then modernization, you know, the abstraction of the divine that our gods and everything you spoke of has purpose, name, significance.
00:47:29.520Then it's replaced with a Semitic God and that God is no longer Yahweh, it's Yehovah, but it's not Yehovah, it's God.
00:47:37.860And eventually God is just an amorphous blob.
00:47:41.160And now, you know, even the rules that this thing has set are starting to get all grayed.
00:47:49.100Oh, something funny on that that I just, I'd heard it before, but I don't remember where I ran into it, but it was today or yesterday.
00:47:59.520the bear was such a potent right totem to invoke amongst our folk in antiquity that they stopped
00:48:10.840calling it whatever they called it and just called it you know bear which meant like brown one
00:48:18.540because they didn't want to say its name unless they invoke its you know terrible presence so
00:48:27.020the original name for what they called bear was, was lost to us.
00:48:31.700And they replaced it with the lion of Judah. You know,
00:48:35.100the, the lion became the new symbol for European royalty.
00:48:41.100And the level of that kind of switchovers,0.53
00:48:45.240it's pretty sad and disgusting. Sometimes I think about our heroes that I think
00:48:51.060we were talking about this at the Hoff is, you know,
00:48:54.600for some folks to not understand how to bloat i said the first thing i would say is your ancestors
00:49:01.560but also bloat to our heroes for their sacrifices read about them learn about them uh open up a
00:49:09.240relationship to them and give them honor and when i read the stories of the heroes um and even the
00:49:17.240two that you mentioned that were in the 14th century, dying for the Aesir. It's just the
00:49:26.180cravenness of the usury and all of the trickery that was done and all of the backstabbing.
00:49:35.760And Olaf Tryggvorson was at least, you know, he was still a Norseman. So there was a lot of
00:49:41.380upfront violence there. But there was also this trickery of sneaking into the hof or waiting for
00:49:47.800people to hold the festival and then showing up and stealing all of their stuff. Just absolute
00:49:54.240but as that's the start of our disconnection with significance. And so I think ultimately
00:50:02.400everybody here should know the reason why you and I go off on these tangents is to reestablish
00:50:08.660significance, to give context and create the genuine. It's not just a mental note, but it's
00:50:17.960also a physical note towards why things are important as they are. And I think that's
00:50:23.680ultimately what we've been doing. Perhaps it's never been expressed, but it should be expressed
00:50:30.020is that that's why we're reading these poems is to make those reconnections. And I mean, that's
00:50:36.940a thing that the lore is cool like in and of itself it's neat to know the stories that layer
00:50:45.640is important and inspirational and educational and fun and just awesome learning the stories
00:50:54.680of our ancestors is a really special thing in its own right but the reason it's lore
00:51:00.160and not just cool history or not just cool stories is that it's pregnant with all of
00:51:07.840these different bits of things that have meaning and connection and deeper application. And so
00:51:14.680when Svan and I notice those, we try to highlight them and bring attention to them. And hopefully
00:51:23.680that's hopefully that's useful to the audience well so fafnir the dragon and it never states
00:51:32.220that he returns to his original shape whatever that that's not even specified exactly so he's
00:51:40.540in dragon form and he says what is your name who who are you the one that slayed me and uh again
00:51:47.960the image of the noble heart, the deer, H-A-R-T, in English, heart, is a deer, and deor meant any
00:51:58.960wild animal, but that eventually fell out of use. But again, anyone who's familiar with European
00:52:07.340Christian ideologies or iconography of like the white deer or the deer with the cross or the light
00:52:16.120above its head that doesn't come from christianity that comes from before and he says it with a
00:52:25.160intended purpose i am the noble heart and then of course fafnir looks at him side-eyed and says no
00:52:31.800i know you're lying so once he's cornered out of the lie and the deception sigurd drops it
00:52:41.480Because there's no point in maintaining the ruse with such an observant and cunning enemy.
00:54:59.760my hand fulfilled and my shining sword so sharp few are keen when old age comes
00:55:09.360who timid in boyhood be so he said few keen edges are sharpened when uh by old
00:55:21.340warriors when they are weak and uh easy to bend when they're when they're younger so
00:55:29.900bravery and boldness if you didn't have it when you were a young man you're not going to have it
00:55:35.500when you're an old time it's that inherentness of it um so he's really like shining right now
00:55:46.240I mean, he just slayed a dragon. So I could see it. And he, you know, I started a sketch of the dying dragon with this young lad kind of just very cocky with his hand on his hip and his arm on the sword having conversation because he was able to do it.
00:56:11.520If thou mightiest grow, thy friends among, one might see thee fiercely fight, but bound thou art and in battle taken, and to fear are prisoners prone.
00:56:27.000So he's suggesting that Sigurd is sent forth out of being obligated or being held in bondage.
00:56:40.460And what that means, too, is whether it's oath bonding or that he is somehow kind of being put to it.
01:01:42.280For a time there is when every man shall journey hence to hell.
01:01:48.000And it's written with the double L's, but in the Old Norse, it is not.
01:01:52.460It is Helyar, the land beyond the veil, the underworld, the shaded land of death, which we have all, you know, in these poems of the synonymousness with hell.
01:02:08.660uh not just the uh australia but the name itself in the poetry was synonymous with death most
01:02:19.220likely 12th century 13th century um it it meant death or or you know and the best way to describe0.97
01:02:28.720would be to say to someone like oh we're gonna send these bastards to hell that means we're1.00
01:02:33.740going to kill them all. So there is this kind of flux there, but I just thought it was interesting1.00
01:02:39.820that they, they use the, the double hockey sticks, if you will. Okay. But so Fafnir retorts
01:03:21.420and that a sailor who makes folly is fated to drown.
01:03:31.480A rider who makes folly is fated to fall.
01:03:35.760A warrior who makes folly is fated to be struck.
01:03:39.380He's basically saying that the deeds that we weave
01:03:43.360to find ourselves in the places we are,
01:03:46.140oftentimes reach us when we you know they take that folly that's the one time the one time you
01:03:54.060didn't check the corner the one time you you know just didn't quite do what you were supposed to do
01:04:02.300and you slip up or there's that just the chance of that um but all danger is near to death so living
01:04:10.700a life uh cushy or or hid away um was absolutely seen as you uh kind of an avoidance but also
01:04:22.460the greatest loss because without the risk there was no reward
01:04:29.740um and sigurd speaks back tell me then fafnir for wise thou art famed and much thou knowest now
01:04:38.780Now, who are the Norns, who are helpful in need, and the babe from the mother bring?
01:04:51.980Of many births the Norns must be, nor one in race they are.
01:05:00.280Some to gods, others to elves, are kin, and Dvalin's daughters, some.
01:05:07.380Now, this might confuse a lot of people because they're thinking the Nornir, the witches, are the Nornir that we speak most of.
01:05:19.740But it is worth noting that the word Nornir and Visir are very intertwined, especially in their meaning.
01:05:27.820And what he's referring to is the holders of fate, the twisters of fate.
01:05:33.280This is the exact reason why Holy Freya is called a Vana Dis. She's the Disir, or the Nornir, of the Vanir. And Valkyries are often referred to as Disir, or Norn.
01:05:51.540they have the ability to interject into the moment of someone's fate or they are there at the most
01:06:00.260important part which is at the end there it's a great sense of mystical power so a linguistic
01:06:07.860point about norns um norn is cognate to witch but not in like a wart on the nose flying around on a
01:06:23.140broomstick um uh mutation of it um but that we've been over this a couple of times but
01:06:36.660But in our lore, there are these broad terms that there's like the Nornir, the big three, Earth for the Indian Skull, that we're all very aware of.
01:06:48.180But then there's a variety of other Nornir.
01:06:52.760There is the concept of, you know, little in Nornir, as it were, generally with people as Nornir, also with Dees.
01:07:05.400it means both of those things, which is really interesting. All of, you know, the female Vanir
01:07:13.880are Deesir in the sense that they're goddesses, but Freya is the Vanadis with a big D, I guess.
01:07:25.260So it's, I realize what I just said, I apologize. That's not what I was going for, but yes. So
01:07:33.600So we have these overlapping terms, just like when we talk about the Yotnar, there are a lot of different varieties of what that means, depending on the context that it's used.
01:07:48.100Something else I wanted to mention, too, a little bit with that.
01:07:52.160It's interesting that when we see these elements of our lore, you think of a dragon as being physically potent.
01:08:06.800You think of a giant as being physically potent, which certainly they are.
01:08:12.160But both of these kind of creatures speak to a deep age, a deep wisdom, a wisdom in language, a wisdom in magic and spellcraft that makes them particularly potent, not just physically imposing, but imposing in their arcane wisdom.
01:08:36.540And I think that's something that, you know, a lot, maybe the casual participant may not be familiar with or may not think about.
01:08:47.620So, well, in this part, too, he says, who are the Norns who are helpful in need and the babe from the mother bring?
01:08:57.240There's the idea of either the physical doula or midwife, which in that stanza alone, my youngest son was brought into the world here at our home with three women, definitely lowercase n, nornier.
01:09:20.600One was older, one was in the middle, and one was younger.
01:09:24.380It was very, very mythical, even though it could be simply just as skewed as the mundane.
01:09:31.640But it's noted here, and he says, and the babe from the mother bring.
01:09:39.180The Nornir are associated with, even in a good light, that they are asked in need.
01:09:48.640Now, is this the lowercase or the large, the capital N?
01:09:54.380either way you call in you know the the wise old women of your tribe to help with childbirth
01:10:01.820um in a home birth situation in a rural situation today in any situation at this time
01:10:10.700but we also make offerings to the nor near when when a baby's born and what we do in naming um
01:10:16.700In both senses, there's a relevance there.
01:10:21.780Well, and he states, too, it is not amongst one family or group of gods.
01:14:19.800And you may have heard me say this on here before.
01:14:28.040Anseus is not a vertical line with two diagonals coming off of it.
01:14:33.560Anseus is the mystery of the Aesir as they speak existence into being.
01:14:44.100It is personified, it is embodied in the picture of a vertical line with two downward diagonals coming from it.
01:14:54.720The Helm of Awe is absolutely a Viking Age and a Golden Age thing.
01:14:59.280the august helmer as depicted as the snowflake design that you see before you is a medieval
01:15:07.180sigil but it is a sigil for the spell that we are talking about in this antiquity that
01:15:15.420we're speaking of when we're talking about any kind of sigil magic be it this or be it
01:15:22.620the runes themselves, it's important that any of us can draw stick figures. It doesn't
01:15:31.200make them magically empowered. They become magically empowered when we, what is, so there's
01:15:45.760probably some really cool spooky bit keywords for this stuff that i don't possess
01:15:54.400but there's something to be said when you talk about rune magic
01:15:59.040people carve runes all the time for writing stuff but there's something when you read in about
01:16:06.320knowing how to carve them and then knowing how to redden them with blood there's different things
01:16:11.600you do to i don't know to charge them to awaken the magical efficacy within the symbols
01:16:23.280but again you are calling upon a concept or a spell or something from the ether
01:16:30.320and you are birthing it into midgard in a variety of forms one of which is these magical sigils
01:16:37.040that we see as the runes or that we see as the August Schallmutter in the snowflake design.
01:16:45.320But I think it's important when people are like, aha, gotcha, that's not a Viking thing.
01:16:50.160The picture might very well not be, but the concept and the spell that it embodies absolutely is.
01:16:58.700So it's really important to be able to, and just as Svon loves the tripartite,
01:17:04.700Our law speaker loves the term bifurcate. We need to bifurcate the concept of the symbol from the mystery that the symbol represents. And like many things I've said tonight, it may sound ridiculous. It may not make much sense right now. I hope some people are tracking and I hope it is useful to some folks. And it makes sense in my head if that holds any value.
01:17:30.500yeah and that's what i was trying to say is that there are people that will come on the internet
01:17:35.780and say oh it was a medieval talismanic no there's clearly connections that go further back
01:17:43.700and this uh the symbology of it morphs as our people went forward um also i wanted to say to
01:17:52.880witch master in the in the comments yeah we were talking about the norms with the capital n as of
01:18:00.080course the nornir they the the past the present the future or the that more correctly would be
01:18:06.560the past present and that which is indebted by your deeds scold but we were also talking
01:18:14.200the reason why he says not one race are they amongst is because he's speaking that
01:18:20.280even the dwarves even the elves and the gods themselves by the mighty three uh contain
01:18:28.780these wise women these twisters of fate it's just if you read lore and you see kind of a lower
01:18:39.800case more near it may cause some confusion a lot of people think um or can't differentiate
01:18:47.680all of that so that's really why we're we're bringing that up um but here we see
01:18:58.080uh he speaks of the helmet and he speaks of the hell the fear helm um the spec the specified way
01:19:09.440that people look at this when they read it is that it is a helm an actual helmet um
01:19:16.880and that's because of translations i uh it is
01:19:23.780looking at the story and wondering is the dragon a man
01:19:30.020does he wear a helmet or is the dragon a dragon it's fine i have a question is
01:19:38.620where we get a lot of those symbols is that the galdrabok yes the galdrabok uh was a
01:19:47.020population of sigils a lot of the sigils in there
01:19:51.420are like you would put them subtly on something or you would carve them there's
01:20:00.660a couple of them that were cool for like wrestling and you'd put them at different
01:20:07.260parts like on your shoe or in your shoe you'd have one like on your heel and one like on the
01:20:11.980ball of your foot for the uh gleema uh like wrestling runes so i mean the way this reads
01:20:21.940he could put on a helmet but then does the helmet change shape when he becomes a dragon or when he's
01:20:27.420a guy or how does that work right or it could simply be something a talisman or a thing that
01:20:33.440is carved into or drawn upon or worn upon his head right um or it could be something that slipped
01:20:41.280inside of a helmet like some of those spells would be things you'd put inside your hat just
01:20:46.400like you'd put something inside your shoes so there's probably a lot of different ways
01:20:50.960you could imagine this i don't know that one's better than the other
01:20:57.120yeah and um oh and uh jilly just brought up a great point she thought it meant
01:21:03.040the helm of a ship like the the the steering uh the the wheel of a ship um no so
01:21:13.760i was gonna say that's cool i don't know if that linguistically
01:21:22.960i don't know if that word had meaning in that context in that time yeah in technology they
01:21:29.600didn't have that yet well i'm saying but was did that word mean something else and it evolved to
01:21:35.120be the steering wheel which ironically looks like the symbol um but like are you still a helmsman
01:21:45.360if you're the guy that's manning the rudder or i'm not sure how that works in naval stuff
01:21:53.120Svon, being a Marine, I'm going to call on you to know.
01:21:58.020I was a little familiar with one, and it's the birthing or the gym.
01:22:03.500It kept us locked in the bottom of the ship.
01:22:07.000To break down the word, Hjalmar means helm or helmet.
01:22:12.580Specifically, the Brit, or, yeah, Hjalmarth is the brim of a helmet.
01:22:46.960Sometimes you find things that manage to
01:22:50.880hold on or even have different meanings but keep similar spellings
01:22:54.840in different branches. Specifically the agus
01:22:58.600is a piece of cloth and in other myths
01:23:02.840a shield, animal skin that was carried by
01:23:06.840Athena and Zeus, sometimes featuring the head of a
01:23:10.980organ well so when you're translating old norse and when you're translating anglo-saxon you'll
01:23:18.340notice that there are quite a lot of uh loan words that probably came in before christianity
01:23:24.980but it's worth noting that the the idea of a shield or the roundness again as as herger was
01:23:31.380saying a symbol placed upon the head or of the dragon or an actual helm that's kind of where i
01:23:40.580I was going with this initially, but it all lends to what was written in the Golderbach is often
01:23:48.620scoffed at as being, you know, Christian hermetic magic. It's not the real, it's not based on
01:23:58.060anything our ancestors did. There's this internet movement to try to disconnect,
01:24:02.240but nothing comes out of a vacuum there is linked points that show us this drawing of
01:24:11.240perhaps the the way that it was drawn has changed certainly symbols do that we see that with every
01:24:17.720futhar um but i don't think it's right for us to disconnect and say well you know that's you know
01:24:26.080certainly not of the Viking age by time, but it is not somehow separated or an interloping thing
01:24:35.540like hermetic magic from medieval times, et cetera, that a lot of people try to do in order
01:24:41.440to kind of ultimately just try to get power over people. But no, he says
01:24:49.980um the uh that he wore the helm oh sorry i'm sorry to interrupt swan on the etymology what
01:25:00.060i'm finding on on uh is is it comes from it's the indefinite genitive singular of uh a year
01:25:12.780as in the husband of rome oh see again i you know they're focusing in on that and i i the the title
01:25:25.600of a year as all the gods have titles the furious one etc uh i was always of of uh understanding
01:25:35.260that it was like the flat plane or the flatness like i could understand how it might be associated
01:25:43.980with a shield but it was also to just the the no land in sight if you will flatness um
01:25:55.980but he says to sigurd i wore this helm to to ward off everyone
01:26:02.860and Sigurd speaks he says the fear helm surely no man shields when he faces a valiant foe
01:26:12.140oft one finds when the foe he meets that he is not the bravest of all
01:26:19.900venom i breathed when bright i lay by the horde my father had
01:26:26.300there was none so mighty as dared to meet me in weapons nor wiles i feared
01:26:34.620glittering worm thy hissing was great and hard didst thou thy heart but hatred more
01:26:42.620have the sons of men for him who owns the helm so now he's he's saying that he wore it
01:26:53.500to fend off but it was it was the very challenge of slaying him and slaying that ward and beating
01:27:02.500the ward that drew men to him. Fafnir spoke, I counsel thee Sigurd, heed my speech and ride thou
01:27:17.980So, homeward hence, the sounding gold, the glow-red wealth, and the rings thy bane shall be.
01:27:31.020Leave here, don't take this, even though I am dying and I cannot have it.
01:27:37.040Do not take it with you, because it will be your bane.
01:27:40.120Thy counsel is given, but go I shall, to the gold in the heather hidden, and Fafnir thou with death dost fight, lying where hell shall have thee.
01:27:56.400rayon betrayed me said fafner and thee will betray us both to death will he bring his life
01:28:10.680methinks must fafner lose for the mightier man was thou so now he admits
01:28:18.540directly he knows that rayon is the one that prodded him forward or ultimately
01:28:27.920prodded all of the the the slayers to come in and attempt to kill him and he says0.99
01:28:35.740now that you have succeeded he will slay you too0.86
01:28:39.320and there's a little interjection there uh and we know it because it doesn't follow the meter
01:30:27.300it's kind of i don't know why i always view that stanza you did great and fought my brother who
01:30:33.220was terrible and i helped it was a stinking bacon i help yes and he puts his foot up on
01:30:42.340uh sigur speaks afar didst thou go while fafnir reddened with his blood my blade so
01:30:51.300with the might of the dragon my strength i matched while you in the heather distied
01:30:57.300a longer that wouldst thou in the heather have let yon hoary giant hide had the weapon availed
01:31:09.220not that once i forged the keen edged blade thou didst bear so he's in essence saying he's been
01:31:18.660hiding he's been hiding in that tree line for a long time but he's the one that forged the blade
01:31:23.060the only blade that could kill the dragon sigurd spoke
01:31:31.700better is the heart than a mighty blade for him who shall fiercely fight the brave man
01:31:40.020well shall fight and win though dull his blade may be brave men better than cowards be
01:31:48.100when the clash of battle comes and the better the glad than the gloomy man shall face what before
01:31:56.560him lies. Thy reed is what it was that I should ride hither over the mountains high to the
01:32:06.220glittering worm would have wealth and life if thou hadst not mocked me my might.
01:32:18.100So this part here he's saying clearly, too, is that, yes, the bravery of a warrior is far better than the weaponry, which is kind of interesting in juxtaposition to warfare now being fought from cameras and buttons and such.
01:32:39.440Um, but he's speaking about true warrior hood and that even the dull bladed sword is used well in the hardened heart of a warrior.
01:32:52.940But he also says that men should not be gloomy, but glad no matter what their fate lies before them, that they should again.
01:33:03.440And this harkens back to the Halvamel, that a warrior must or should lead his life with happiness upon his face despite what may come before him.
01:33:16.840And we find that a lot, I think, in military humor, but also to just the poetic humor of warriors meeting their end with a smile and a joke, I think is very entrenched in the ethos of our society.
01:33:35.840um so he said did mock me though and that's something that the that happens in the whole
01:33:45.380saga rayon mocks him and says that he's you know not strong or he's he might be too scared to fight
01:33:54.780this dragon so that's what he he mentions here is thy reed r-e-d-e which is council or when you're
01:34:02.880conversing with each other. Thy reed it was that I should ride hither over the mountains high
01:34:08.320heaped to here to the glittering worm would have health and life if thou hadst not mocked me that
01:34:14.780night. If you hadn't have prodded me, I would not have known of the dragon to come and slay.
01:34:23.640So then Reyn went up to Fafnir the dragon
01:34:53.240since deep of blood i have drunk and this sets a precedent as well because soon we're going to
01:35:00.800find out the power of the blood and sigurd is going to fight find it out but rayon is the first
01:35:08.760to quench uh the blood down and he in essence is gaining that but even he still being crooked
01:35:18.220still being cowardice, the blood doesn't help him enough because that's the point being reiterated is the better powers, the better sword, all of that falls short if it's not powered by a genuinely brave and noble heart.
01:39:43.920sorry it's the storytelling that you know comes out on this but um uh and then a third bird speaks
01:39:52.080and says less by a head let the chatterer horry go from here to hell then all of the wealth he
01:40:01.760alone can wield the gold that fafnir guarded so he's saying he could also turn the tide and then
01:40:11.520or uh that rayon's motive is to kill the slayer of the dragon to take the gold for himself
01:40:19.040but he could turn it against him and the fourth concurs he says wise would he seem if so he would
01:40:26.700heed the council good we sisters give and that's an interesting point there as well we were talking
01:40:35.100about the nornir and the the idea even though they go into four birds but the point of it is
01:40:43.260the sisters the usage of the feminine clearly right there is a again a speaking of the power of
01:40:51.740of destiny and the power of um laying out uh prophecy through the the feminine and uh he they
01:41:04.300say you know he would be wise if he listened to us and and then he would live and be able to take
01:41:10.300the gold for himself if he only understood us of course the dragon's blood has given him that
01:41:17.100ability um so he's wise would he seem if so he would heed the council good we sisters give
01:41:26.060thought he would give and ravens glad and there is ever a wolf where his ears i spy so you know
01:41:34.220In other words, you know, he, he will feed the ravens, he will feed the wolves.
01:41:44.260And I wonder about this too, because the, the actual, the birds in the stanza, I wonder if it's just speaking of birds noting an alarm around wolves and ravens, or if that one was specifically culturally understood to be a sign.
01:42:03.460like when you hear them going off there there's a wolf nearby but the the correlation of him
01:42:11.180gladdening the ravens and uh and that whenever they speak or whenever they chirp there is always
01:42:19.940a wolf near and they're speaking clearly about about ray and being the wolf um but yes and and
01:42:29.160Down in the bottom, I saw the annotated part said, it's very similar to where there is smoke, there is fire.
01:42:38.300So wherever there is an alarming bird, there is a wolf.
01:42:42.220So guys, this is dumb and should go without saying, but because me and Svon both didn't do it on a couple of things.0.64
01:48:03.960So it's never mentioned before, but I think it's worth noting that perhaps the reason why it was mentioned, that Reyn is not a human, but a Jotun that is working in service of the king.
01:48:24.900He's the smith who's learned from the dwarves.
01:48:29.400And again, it is worth noting that Jotun, even though its etymology is often quoted as the consumption, which is true,
01:48:39.560the usage, I wonder, in my observation, seems more akin to eldritch or to be of the elder or to be of the old,
01:48:49.720of the time more associated or connected to Ymir.
01:48:54.900But in so doing that, he then drinks from his blood as well, Sigurd does, and he's not drinking from the blood of a human. He's not a vampire. He's drinking now from this ancient being who his brother was a shapeshifter who could turn into dragons.
01:49:19.280His other brother was a shapeshifter who could shape into a giant otter.
01:49:24.900And his father was the one who was able to know and find and locate where the treasure of this ancient dwarf is.
02:00:53.040But I think that it's rich in, I don't know, cool nuggets that I think are really important.
02:01:01.280It's an espresso kind of concentration.
02:01:04.140Well, it really is. So much of the Volsunga Saga is about other things, but his claim to fame is he is the slayer of Fafnir, and this talks about that incident in detail and really, you know, teases out some important points of it.
02:11:52.400Different house. That's all I'm saying. It's not even in the realm, Scott.
02:11:55.860No, I agree with Spahn's thing. It's like an apple versus a
02:11:59.860tomato. I guess they're both fruits in some sense of the word. All right. So more serious question.
02:12:11.340Hey there, question for tonight's show. To what extent can someone associate with a friend
02:12:17.820slash family member who is a dishonorable person without being stained by association?
02:12:24.100Is it wiser to distance yourself from such people, or should you try to remain near in an attempt to influence them to become better? Thanks. Svan, take first swing at that.
02:12:38.460Okay. Yeah, that's a really interesting question. Multilayer. I would say first and foremost, because there's the mentioning of family. This is not so black and white. This is not inner guard, outer guard. This is blood. And you're dealing with that. And then on top of that, it depends on the situation.
02:12:58.520And I really hate to say that to you, uh, because it sounds like, uh, I'm giving a loose
02:13:06.400lawyer answer, but, um, but he also said friend, uh, I would say family and friends are different.
02:13:16.320Uh, if you have a friend who has done something of great dishonor, especially to another friend,
02:13:23.040Yes, you cut that immediately because your loyalties are your honor and you cannot differ.
02:13:33.620So if your friend and you know and you agree with the fact that they have been grievously against your friend, stand with the friend who is wronged and separate yourself from the one who was doing the egregious deed.
02:13:51.160I would say figure out, make sure, because again, a lot of people weaponize that too.
02:13:56.160You know, oh, you know what he did to me?
02:13:58.960And if you immediately, so having a wise head is good.
02:14:02.960But if you find out, if you witness or you absolutely know that that friend did something to another friend and you kind of sit in between, bad move.
02:16:33.940as a man or a woman to make informed choices on things there's not one and done oh this person
02:16:43.820is kind of dishonorable cast them out that's not the simple answer the world is much more complex
02:16:51.800than that you have bonds of friendship that you can enter into and exit out of with very little
02:16:59.680consequence often, depending upon the degree and longevity of the friendship. Your family is a
02:17:09.560different story. You are associated with them whether you want to or not. A stain of ignobility
02:17:17.140upon your family is a stain upon you in one way or another, regardless of what you want to do about
02:17:23.900it so the initial hit you take a little bit then you can kind of choose how to manage it
02:17:31.180your point is prescient about wanting to yeah but should you still be associated
02:17:36.940in a way that you can guide them back to honorable behavior
02:17:41.980sure in the extent that you do that what i would say is there's kind of a sliding scale of
02:17:47.100levels of dishonorable behavior that you can scale up or scale down your interactions on
02:17:57.280there are interactions with friends to where you are deeply involved in one another's life
02:18:04.080and they're invited to all of your family events and they're like brothers to you
02:18:08.960I would say that should become less the more dishonorable that person is
02:18:14.960but keeping yourself available to help advise them to make good choices is a thing to do
02:18:25.080I think that we all have a different place where we put that hard line to where you're beyond
02:18:30.160redemption and you have the right to do that but that kind of flexes on what the level of dishonor
02:18:38.800I mean, did they steal something at Walmart or did they, you know, betray their folk or betray a loved one or do something truly heinous to harm someone?
02:18:50.900These are different levels of dishonorable behavior.
02:19:04.060With your family, there are obligations that are functionally important to do within your family, and then there's, you know, hey, are you inviting them over all the time to come hang out and be involved in your life and your children's lives?
02:19:23.780If their dishonor is liable to affect the rest of your family, lessening that contact is advisable until they choose to regain an honorable path.
02:19:37.760But the thing is, you can choose your friends, but you can't choose your family.
02:19:42.260They're going to continue to be associated with you and your family for the rest of their existence.
02:19:47.200keeping the ability to persuade them to behave more honorably, I think is always an advisable
02:19:56.840thing to have at least the most basic level of communication open to where you can help
02:20:02.040bring them back towards something honorable, if that's a possibility. And again,
02:20:09.580there are things that are a step outside that are, you know, they can never come back from.
02:20:18.300I think those might look a little bit different on where each of us draws that line. But like,
02:20:23.660for example, if one of your family, you know, molests children or something, then
02:20:28.540at least where I'm at, they're done and you can't really come back from that. So I would
02:20:35.260no longer be associated with them in any way at that point.
02:21:18.320oh down here at the bottom scott asks there's a couple of them here so i'm trying to figure out
02:21:36.560where to start uh what if you're the one who walked away from your family because you joined
02:21:43.040the old gods and they are opposed to them um so that's an interesting question and i appreciate
02:21:49.120you asking it i would i would encourage if you are the one who walked away because you wanted
02:22:01.680to worship the old gods and they did not i would again it's i'm not in your spot and the details
02:22:11.920matter how that happened matters did you walk away because of their opposition to the choice that you
02:22:19.200made or did you just cut them off because you wanted to pursue this new this new um journey
02:22:27.120of faith that you're on if you are the one who walked away because they are christian and you
02:22:32.720are also true and you wanted to forge a new path i would consider what all that means and how much
02:22:39.200you needed to separate yourself i don't think that if you become also true on from your perspective
02:22:47.780you need to separate yourself from your family unless there's other variables involved that i'm
02:22:56.060unaware of so if you're the one who chose to step away from your family i would consider re-engaging
02:23:03.300with them as long as they can be respectful of your faith and the things that are your core values
02:23:09.180um but no you shouldn't disguise your outs of true practice or be untrue to who you are and
02:23:19.460living authentically you should be open and honest about what you believe and the gods that
02:23:24.580you worship if you can do that and still engage with them then i would encourage you to still
02:23:29.840engage with them may i of course bring up a point here and uh i i i knew you were going to say it
02:23:37.820because that is our faith our faith is about joining and the alzharagothi is saying you should
02:23:44.860maintain being loyal to the gods but you should also try to make amends with your family unless
02:23:51.580of course they spurn you for that but remember the fundamental difference between christianity
02:23:57.580and aussitrew aussitrew would say you hold your truth to the gods but try to rebuild with your
02:24:05.660family but christianity would say no i did not come here as a peacemaker i came here as a sword
02:24:14.380is specifically from jesus he said i did not come here as a peacemaker i came here uh
02:24:21.580bringing a sword and that sword is to sever the ties they never ever end the quote of that bible
02:24:27.980uh verse the quote says i am here to sever the the ties between the father and the son and the
02:24:36.220mother and the daughter basically uh jesus was rabbi saying if you guys want to follow me in my
02:24:44.700new way and your parents are still following the old way of the pharisees then i am here as a sword
02:24:52.060to cut that and to iron the line in the sand between the old judaism and the the new church
02:24:59.740that he is trying to create the new synagogue um so he clearly states it that but he's also again
02:25:07.580he's speaking to judaic peoples and so you have to take that into context but that's a really
02:25:15.420interesting note. Ausatru would say, be of your gods, return. But if your family is deluded in
02:25:24.240the Semitic faith from the Middle East, and they have these notions, remember, their notions are
02:25:30.800that heavy, sword severing between families. They have no compunctions, isolating the self
02:25:39.480and the soul to the afterlife etc so i knew i just i when i saw that and you were it like
02:25:47.580rushed in hitting me that that's the the kind of a stark difference between unless it's
02:25:55.520irredeemably villainous i'd always leave the door open for a family
02:25:59.900um especially if there's kids involved and other people's kids and nieces and nephews and things
02:26:06.940like that um there's nothing you can do that truly opts out of your family they are bound to
02:26:14.700you by blood regardless of how you want to conceive it so leaving the door open for reconciliation
02:26:21.900between perhaps their children or whatever might be the case i think is valuable and a bit of an
02:26:29.500obligation familiarly um go ahead he says they're part of they are the rainbow hariri and i i don't
02:26:37.980know but i i'm assuming he's saying just of the the rainbow ilk but yeah a lot of people are
02:26:43.500really confused and we live through really strange times this rainbow globo homo thing is
02:26:51.500you know it depends on how old somebody is this has been really cool for the last 10 years
02:26:59.660before that it really wasn't maybe 10 years from now it won't be still there's some stuff
02:27:06.880they can make progress on depending far how far down that road they've gone and again there may
02:27:13.380be nieces and nephews involved that you can still be a positive force in their life depending on
02:27:19.120your level of engagement. Scott asked specifically, I'll tell you what a family member is gay.
02:27:27.020I'm making assumptions that you're talking about a male family member. I think
02:27:32.980it is different with women than it is with men. You know, we all know that as men,
02:27:42.020once you voluntarily choose to participate in homosexuality, you can't really un-gay yourself.
02:27:49.120With women, I think it functions a little bit different, but that is a choice that I think everybody has to make, and I don't think there's a wrong answer to it as far as in the broad strokes.
02:28:06.800If that is a step too far and you need to cut them off for good on that, I certainly understand that decision and am supportive of that decision made.
02:28:19.120And soberly and not made in haste or out of anger about it. I think also, though, and for a lot of people, you don't have to do that.
02:28:28.380I think the concern comes when there's kids involved and letting the kids be around that person unsupervised, I'd be really weary of.
02:28:41.280um especially if they were same-sex children in that environment um
02:28:50.640but again you can't completely opt out of these people being your family
02:28:56.100and your relations with one family member inevitably affect relationships with a whole
02:29:02.760web of you know mothers and grandmas and nieces and nephews and a variety of people
02:29:08.440that is one where I would be very cautious in my dealings with that family member and I would think
02:29:15.640that that would draw a line to where my level of closeness with that family member could never be
02:29:22.060what it would be if that were not the case it doesn't mean there can't be some I don't think
02:29:28.720that in our faith most things are not an all-or-nothing proposition but that would definitely
02:29:36.260cause the relationship to shift in a way that I don't think it could ever be the same as it was
02:29:45.180before they decided to make that life choice. So I think there's a lot of right answers to that,
02:29:52.600but each person's going to make their own. And as long as they're trying to be safe and not
02:29:58.280altering their core values, what I'd never do on any of these things is approve of the
02:30:02.340unapprovable. You know, there's things that are not acceptable, and I don't think you ever have
02:30:06.720to accept whatever. If your brother decides that he's a girl, you don't ever have to call him
02:30:13.760Susan. That's your brother. If he wants you to pretend he's your sister, well, he's not. You
02:30:19.420don't have a sister, so you don't have any obligation of that. But again, that's a very
02:30:24.980strange circumstance that is a sickness of our time. And that's a hard one to navigate. But I
02:30:35.020think that as long as you're true to yourself and true to your principles, you can choose
02:30:39.120how much to engage with that person or how much not to. But again, I would always be very cautious,
02:30:45.220especially with children involved um the next question
02:30:56.180what is what is the afa's position on premarital sex from a religious
02:31:04.020house to true perspective should sex only be uh be within the confines of a monogamous marriage
02:31:11.620it's fine what are your thoughts on this so i i think we can kind of organize a two-tiered
02:31:16.900i will talk about like i think more uh the old the viking age ideas of this and then i think
02:31:24.900would better if you address the the church of the gods in our modern day that are building temples
02:31:31.860to the gods so like uh i i'll kind of do the the lore nerd back half um i would say it's really
02:31:39.300important when you look at old lore and and asking yourself how does alsatru are you asking about
02:31:47.300how the church of the icier today defines it and what what its uses and and etc or are we talking
02:31:56.660about what the way our ancestors did it and again that's the perception of very small slivers of
02:32:03.380allure that survive. But that's where I'll focus on that. That's my jam. So one of the things
02:32:12.480that's worth noting is anytime that there was premarital sex between a man or a woman,
02:32:21.300there was generally a huge push towards marriage after that if the child was,
02:32:30.460or not the child sorry the child was coming that the signs of birth were coming um and and the
02:32:38.760girl was showing then it was really heavily and societally established that yes they should get
02:32:45.880married and because now they are going to have blood offspring and so on and so forth um it was
02:32:51.880a little looser for men uh there's not a lot that goes on that but there's a reason for that
02:32:57.160one nor society to the value that virginity has in the society so virginity was held um
02:33:10.460as valuable specifically in in women one there's the mention that the house or that the
02:33:19.840our senior gevion houses the souls in heaven of women who are virgins so that again shows that
02:33:34.480emphasis the other point of that was because it was about character of of the woman that the other
02:33:45.200family especially if they've gone through all the societal processes to make to try to uh woo
02:33:53.520that the son goes there and he's sending her poems and doing all of this stuff and then he sends his
02:33:59.360friend to her father so that he can uh arrange a point where he can ask them to you know may i
02:34:07.040marry your daughter and all of that stuff that stuff was was very very important and so entailed
02:34:14.000on the other end it was that she wasn't sleeping with everyone you know in the fjord if you will
02:34:21.360um that was kind of like not a good look and it wasn't wasn't met well um so chastity
02:34:30.860unlike with say like the vestal virgins of greece or when you get into semitic religions like
02:34:37.500Islam and Christianity and Judaism. The vestige of virginity had societal power, but the gods were
02:34:50.380not coming down and decreeing things. What that tells us too is that the gods expect us to conduct
02:35:00.120ourselves in a way and the church of the ice here the australian folk assembly it is it's in the
02:35:07.740name so it's nobility we should conduct ourselves nobility with a nobly but um the other point i
02:35:15.300wanted to make was marriages under the age of 15 in our ancestors time was considered strange
02:35:24.420It was absolutely taboo. Remember how before I mentioned that most young men that would go
02:35:31.040raiding or would go trading were around 15 in the age, given the fact that life expectancy
02:35:41.520being in the 50s and 60s, 15 was the age that a young man was expected to join a crew and go
02:35:49.000abroad you know cross over the ocean in a tiny little wooden vessel um and and and just do it
02:35:58.600uh which is crazy to think about but um any woman any young girl married under the age of 15 was
02:36:08.760seen as absolutely strange that was not the norm um you know what has it what is it different in
02:36:16.920in earlier iterations of germanic arian societies they they vary so much that i can't give
02:36:23.880a a hardened answer on it but it kind of lends to note yes the idea was that if you mean man
02:36:32.040maintained your chase chastity and then got married that is the best if you don't if you
02:36:38.040fall in love and you have a child out of wedlock then society both tribes both clans want you to
02:36:45.560get married the other thing that's really important is a woman that has a child out of wedlock
02:36:52.200is adding on responsibility to her clan that was a big thing as far as being able to survive
02:37:01.960and having the resources to feed another mouth so if a woman was to get pregnant um
02:37:08.760um and not have a husband or something of that nature to afford the child then they were had
02:37:17.420they were at a deficit and in those climates that that's very dangerous the other point of that is
02:37:24.840is when women uh bring extra children after marriage you're married you have children that's
02:37:32.680blessing that's a boon the woman brings so much to the home to the household the weaving the brewing
02:37:39.880of mead the brewing of beer uh and all of the things that women did then and um on top of that
02:37:47.080adding uh children and um you know we know of of love and and the nature between it but
02:37:55.720also from a societal standpoint that was more help on the farm so it it's interesting that
02:38:02.760their society looked at a child out of wedlock was a deficit to her father but when she went
02:38:11.400and married with a young man and had children that was a boom to the farm of their household
02:38:19.720so what that tells me is again there's a significance in in those positions but it's
02:38:26.360not written down it's not proclaimed it's not about shout it's again it is the way in which
02:38:33.640they conduct themselves give us the signs but that it was also there was some leeway if you did have
02:38:42.280a child out of wedlock then they would push you to get married and if some guy came and said i
02:38:48.680i want to marry your daughter and she's nine the dad would probably split your head in twain
02:38:54.580because that's being a weirdo um so that's kind of what i'm getting at is all of these
02:39:01.980historical references have uh signposts that let us know that society functioned in a in a way um
02:39:11.280but there is no point in which say like lord othen comes down and says you know that shall not sit
02:39:18.320where a a woman who's menstruating sits that's that's semitic stuff and our gods don't function
02:39:26.800that way so a couple things even back in the viking age or the you know the the arc heathen period
02:39:48.320A lot of what we see is idealized as the best and brightest version of things for nobility.
02:40:01.320There was a lot of premarital sex happening.
02:40:04.600There was a young warrior society where guys were out doing stuff and they're on campaign and things happen.
02:40:10.900This is an issue that, again, in the Austro-Folk Assembly, we do not believe in equality.
02:40:17.320Nothing is equal. The world doesn't work that way.
02:40:22.680Guys can kind of go out and do what they do and their buddies give them a high five and it's all good, assuming that they don't bring back kids with them.
02:40:30.840Or this is a very different story with women.
02:40:36.740If you are a woman, your value is greatly decreased due to your, you know, as the kids would say today, body count.
02:40:44.320in a noble situation but again it becomes a little bit different if you're dealing with
02:40:52.320second marriages or later in life relationships we're talking about the young prince and princess
02:41:00.740then yeah the expectation with that is virginity and on the woman's part
02:41:07.180so that creates an interesting situation and something to be thought about
02:41:14.520the other thing that's really important is some of these things change with the reality of the
02:41:22.780society you live in and where you're at and ours is not a thou shalt thou shalt not faith
02:41:30.620on a lot of things on some things it is but a lot of things have a great deal to do with whether
02:41:36.700your actions bring honor or dishonor to your family and your tribe and the situation that
02:41:42.820you're in. In today's world, virginity is a very hard thing to come by. People end up getting in
02:41:53.800marriages often later in life, and we are in a much more hyper-sexualized society. That's a hard
02:42:03.040thing to come by and there's no hard fast rule or fatwa on premarital sex i think we all realize
02:42:13.600the implications of that be it disease be it unwanted pregnancies um
02:42:21.280um be it you know gods forbid uh interracial dalliances with unwanted pregnancies
02:42:34.000um yeah those are things that our ancestors didn't really have to yeah that wasn't a frequent
02:42:42.760occurrence maybe if men were off battling in great distant parts of the world and then they
02:42:49.120didn't have to really deal with consequences of that when they went home. That wasn't really a
02:42:54.320thing. In today's society, it kind of is. Fawn's point's valid. If the family found out and there
02:43:01.140was stuff, they would push for the young people to get married. And so it would not result in
02:43:07.400dishonor on the family. We don't live in a world where that results in dishonor in the same way.
02:43:13.560but again a woman significantly loses value when trying to marry
02:43:21.000a good man if they bring with them you know the more baggage that they bring with them
02:43:30.360from sexual choices that they made the less valuable that appears to prospective mates
02:43:41.080again when people are very young i think we have a lot of people that end up finding their
02:43:46.960you know their forever spouse when they're later in life that's unfortunate it just kind of is
02:43:54.440the situation we find ourselves in and in that situation you're not going to
02:43:59.620find yourself some virginal 30 something year old woman unless something is really wrong with them
02:44:07.720are really wrong with you or unless a number of things have gone very wrong in life so
02:44:15.400what i again there is no fatwa on premarital sex i would caution people to make good choices
02:44:28.760and especially on the woman's end don't sleep with somebody that you're not prepared to
02:44:34.760to have children with if something doesn't work the way you want it to.
02:44:42.140And I would also say that for men out there listening, avoid the purity spiral.
02:44:57.840There's a lot of guys out there now that get radicalized by things on the internet and
02:45:03.620get really strange purity spiral ideas that don't serve them well in the real world and they end up
02:45:11.620being sad alone angry and bitter purposely designed to isolate yeah and those things
02:59:24.820It's just now all of this, you know, espionage and backstabbing is kind of entered in and Macbeth, I mean, sorry, Macbeth Hamlet comes in and says, you know, he's going to cut to the core of it, but then he tries to utilize insanity as a way to get through.
03:00:18.600which also has the the weird sisters in the beginning which is clearly the norns bringing
03:00:26.960it back full circle to what we were talking about way earlier in the show the so mcbeth um and
03:00:33.780by proxy i would even say akira kurosawa's throne of blood that's a mcbeth retelling from a from
03:00:43.160the japanese perspective which is an interesting thing um and also hamlet top tier
03:00:53.640ah all right so when you join ausitru do you receive a new name
03:01:01.640so i'd like to make a point that i do think is significant and this is not like being critical
03:01:09.240the question because i think it affects the answer to the question
03:01:18.760you don't like join aussitrue as if it's a new thing you revert to aussitrue aussitrue is your
03:01:27.720default setting so it's not like you are changing to become something else you are
03:01:35.480like getting rid of impurity and going back to your natural state which is troth to our gods
03:01:48.040so that in itself i think affects the answer to this question
03:01:53.480it's fun do you have would you like to answer this question first
03:01:57.320yes um well i the default setting comment i hope sierra gets that because
03:02:05.920that's going to be a good one um and it is absolutely true um no you do not get a new name
03:02:14.940if anybody hasn't seen the interview between alzharo govi and the uh twitter or x kind of um
03:02:23.600personality adam green he makes mention of that he says oh you have a very biblical name
03:02:31.340and i was wondering to myself what he was expecting was he expecting
03:02:35.940a year ago they did come in and say his name was blood-borne pathogens and son and uh axe wielder
03:02:44.580again it it just seemed interesting that he even brought it up but um no you don't get a
03:02:53.840new name um sometimes you find yourself in situations where you have local um
03:03:02.080local groups kindreds and perhaps you have some issues or what have you but until you
03:03:10.400get that legally changed that's not your real name stop you know trying to go by uh
03:03:18.400uh something else unless you change it legally if your name is uh what's that one guy's name
03:03:27.280that's here ago the smurf hat oh Scott Scott no it wasn't hold on um sorry I'm putting you on the
03:03:38.560on the jump right there but no I it because it'll it once it gets to me it'll get to me um
03:03:46.000thorbert thorbert thorbert lindley or something his name's travis travis lily is the the man's
03:03:59.180name but he insists on people calling him thorbert and he gets really angry if you use his like real
03:04:05.000name because it like breaks the fourth wall of his like pretend or whatever yeah there's so much
03:04:14.740theatrics in his uh worshiping of the gods that he creates this character that he has to like fulfill
03:04:23.320and his name is Travis now if he changed his name to Thorbert legally I could understand that to a
03:04:30.920degree especially if he doesn't have some ties to his family but if you're named after someone in
03:04:36.560your family like I was here ago he said to Adam Green um you know the name has it's it's got
03:04:42.600significance so i'm not going to change it i'm not going to present myself as something i'm not
03:04:47.400and it's just that simple but on other occasions i have seen where there are like someone who
03:04:53.800doesn't have familial ties they join a kindred they don't want to be called uh and usually it's
03:05:00.280something wild like ebuchadnezzar or like uh i don't know like some really jebediah some really
03:05:08.280crazy biblical name and they want instead to be called something else and i i would always encourage
03:05:15.240to do that legally and also don't equally go as ridiculous in the other direction so you know you
03:05:22.680know you do you um my no that is not a common house true thing though i will say in the history
03:05:34.520of modern house true that was something that the first generation of people founding our modern
03:05:43.720practice would often do now everyone didn't do that a lot of people did um and they kept their
03:05:54.280viking name for the rest of their time and used it whatever um i don't think that was ever the norm
03:06:01.960but it was something that a lot of people did and i think that it was a breakaway function
03:06:09.560from you know rejecting the christianity to try to embrace this new thing as wholeheartedly as
03:06:17.560they could and people were just figuring it out that practice quickly um died out or became much
03:06:28.440more of a seldom thing you have some people that changed their name to their you know viking name
03:06:38.280that they adopted you have a number of people that maybe when they were learning about asa true
03:06:48.280one of the elders that they learned under would would give them a name and that stuck sometimes
03:06:55.560became a nickname and then kind of became default their name um i think those things happen over
03:07:02.840time but there's no need to do that and i don't feel like i have to do that i don't feel like i'm
03:07:10.760not legitimate because my name's matthew um that said i wouldn't name my children hebrew names
03:07:17.480um and didn't i would encourage everyone to name their children um non you know that name their
03:07:28.820children white people names and you know i think it's valuable to name your children
03:07:36.140after um family members that were important to you or perhaps after heroes um but again you can
03:07:44.500do a lot of that without passing on Hebrew names. Gothi David James, again, David James
03:07:55.700was one of those early, early people. He didn't change his name to not be, you know, the founder
03:08:05.860of the the the kingdom of the jews um but he did he did a seminar at the first first afa event i
03:08:16.820ever went to where he talked about naming tradition and how if you wanted to honor
03:08:22.980someone with maybe a christian name or a hebrew name that they had you could kind of rework that
03:08:32.260into something more attuned with with our folk and our heritage you could take what the name because
03:08:40.820names don't just sound nice they all have a meaning well what does your you know what does
03:08:45.460your hebrew name mean what would that be you know what would the equivalency to that concept or that
03:08:54.660idea be in a germanic language and then we could work with that and so there's something to be said
03:09:02.100for that. But no, I think that it is what it is. And I think that it is very easy to look inauthentic
03:09:13.000or LARPy or to look silly when you embrace Ausatru and then demand people call you,
03:09:19.560you know, Ragnar Skull Splitter or something instead of, you know, your actual name that you
03:09:26.860came into the world with. The other thing is names have value. Your name was given to you by your
03:09:32.820parents. You find yourself with decades of hymenia built around your name and your identity in the
03:09:41.000world. Casting off your name and embracing a different name, there is a metaphysical thing
03:09:50.140that happens with that um so that's something to consider but no i don't advise that people
03:09:57.320change their names to a some kind of a viking name that's not a thing that's not something
03:10:02.980most people do that is a very rare thing that you might still see today and it's it would be a very
03:10:09.040odd odd thing to see to somebody you know under you know before pre their mid 40s i'd say
03:10:17.600i um i would anybody who's interested or if they're having children i would deeply recommend
03:10:24.460that you go to um the website called behind the name it is a very good website it breaks
03:10:32.980names up into different groups very clearly concisely it has nordic and separately germanic
03:10:40.640has anglo-saxon and it gives them the the meanings of the names um it is where well it's not where
03:10:49.100but it's it was it's substantiated my reason for naming like naming my son eldred which is an
03:10:56.560anglo-saxon name and um and not an icelandic name like people might have some sort of bone with that
03:11:03.480why why didn't you name them icelandic names and my daughter's name's an etruscan name to be honest
03:11:10.160um but there's reasons behind her name as well um but yeah i just saw that uh i named my son
03:11:18.480ivor and i immediately went to behind the name to look it up and there's gaelic equivalencies
03:11:25.280for ivor there's a lot of different ones and uh the root of it is ear the y-r like the rune
03:11:35.040the the yew tree the ear rune or the ear dollar that ular lives and hair uh a warrior so it's a
03:11:45.120bowman uh the the yew tree warrior is no doubt a kenning for a bowman or a spear no a spear was ash
03:11:57.760but yew trees were specifically used for bows there you go yeah while we're on it real quick um
03:12:06.800i would point to don't name your kids or your pets after the icu yes yeah don't do that that's
03:12:14.400also something that gothe david james was talking about at that very first um thing that i went to um
03:12:21.440that's not trying to call anybody out people you know you find yourself in the situation you find
03:12:31.480yourself in but that's it sucks that's not a practice that i would emulate i don't think
03:12:38.560that's something to do it's certainly not something our ancestors did what gothe james
03:12:43.780pointed out at the time though was that if you wanted to include the name of a god in the naming
03:12:52.020of your child through some kind of special dedication or whatever there was a lot of
03:12:56.900compound names that our ancestors would do uh thorstein thorbjorn um thoralf thoralf uh there's
03:13:07.460a lot of different ways to do that that still honors the god or goddess that you want to honor
03:13:16.980but that isn't inappropriate and i don't think that a lot of people do that intentionally to
03:13:25.860be blasphemous but it's not a practice that we that's appropriate to to continue or to keep
03:13:34.420doing so it's nice to find a respectful way to do that yeah and even our ancestors you know they
03:13:42.340seem to not that's why they did the compound names yeah so there's a way to honor the gods
03:13:50.100with your naming if that's something you want to do in a way that's not um a one-for-one direct
03:13:57.300naming your kid the name of one of the gods um today my great aunt uh lillian passed through
03:14:06.340the veil she was 97 and a christian her whole life do i honor her during bloat
03:14:14.100that might be a little again just nomenclature things bloats not typically something that we
03:14:21.620honor ancestors too except for it like a dc or bloat or an alphar bloat um but yes you should
03:14:28.740honor her she's one of your ancestors a lot of our you know there is there is one generation of our
03:14:35.460ancestors that we shouldn't honor because the fact that they are christian and that's the generation
03:14:43.620that broke from our gods all the generations since then that's what they were most often born into
03:14:53.380the only thing they knew the best that they knew to do during their time and while it's
03:14:59.460sad that they didn't come home to the iser in life um i hope and assume that that that's been
03:15:07.620rectified on the other side of the veil and as long as they were you know your family who were
03:15:15.620people that are worth honoring otherwise i would absolutely honor them and raise the horns to them
03:15:20.420at sumble and you know perhaps call upon her during a dc or bloat um but yes you should
03:15:27.860absolutely do that uh all of us the vast majority of people that get hailed during the ancestor round
03:15:34.900assembled were christians their entire life some of them were you know priests or pastors
03:15:43.140or whatever else so please don't let that be a bar for you to honor your ancestors again outside
03:15:51.300of that first generation that forsook our gods christianity has stated that it is a sword that
03:15:57.780separates how so true does not we encourage you to and the thing is things are real or they're not
03:16:06.580after death things get sorted out and i don't think that you know the the magical rabbi gets
03:16:13.700to steal the souls of our ancestors i don't think that's how the natural world functions um
03:16:21.460but who influenced how did snorri just bring greek influenced myths into norse mythology
03:16:33.540a way of hellenizing the greek or the germanic peoples uh svan you have thoughts on this yeah
03:16:40.260we've spoken about this at great length which you asked i have spoken about it in great length to
03:16:47.300the chagrin of everyone else no i'll just keep it brief uh the school in which snorri wrote and
03:16:56.180comprised the totality of the poems and the reason why it's called the codex regis or regius uh is
03:17:06.660because of uh simon wrote the stories down they were being orally told and he was writing them
03:17:14.740down in latin because the nordic language had not quite decided whether or not it was going to
03:17:21.620continue using runic script or you'd be utilizing latin lettering or what exact
03:17:27.140latin letterings were going to be used in order to express the sounds that everyone was saying
03:17:32.820so uh they taking the oral tradition and turning it into a written tradition is a big topic but
03:17:42.340But one of the other things is that all the classical literature taught at schools and Snorri is no different.
03:17:48.960He went to Norway. He was a friend of the king.
03:17:51.880And all of the classic learning of the time always lent towards classical literature of the Greeks and the Romans.
03:17:59.360And what Snorri was trying to do was to equivalent our stories and have them brought up into everyone's minds as being equal with.
03:18:12.940And so the intricacies of poetry and all of that that was going on was, again, surpassed by the Mediterranean stuff.
03:18:22.060And he was trying to bring it back in.
03:18:23.920So you will find some parallels there.
03:18:25.960You'll also find some parallels to the hemorrhization and you will find things that he attempts to state out front.
03:18:37.060So that way the church doesn't get its hackles up and then he can keep to the really close.
03:18:44.580It was very, very, I don't think he edited a lot at all.
03:18:49.080I think it was very close to what was being spoken to Simon.
03:18:53.120But there may be some filling points or presentation in between the poems, the actual prose, that substantiates that the Nordic Aryan was not much different from the Hellenic Aryan, and that they viewed the gods in very similar ways.
03:19:15.360and we could you could debate certain things um especially when we talk about the tripartite and
03:19:24.460all that stuff and i'm not going down that hole but i had to mention it for those who are drinking
03:19:28.400in the back um but uh he did uh some small amounts to equivalent the two but i think he was doing it
03:19:42.500the genuine sense that we're not much different as far as that our stories and their stories
03:19:47.940ultimately source from the same place the same peoples but um as far as him just walk like you
03:19:57.380know i don't know oil like olive oil washing the the norse myth is not not uh a correct like uh
03:20:07.060accusation all right uh hello i'll hear you go through matt witness fawn and folk builder nick
03:20:15.300can difficult deeds be an offering to the icer for example if someone were to quit smoking and
03:20:22.420dedicate the personal struggle to the icer would that be a suitable offering thank you for all you
03:20:28.500do it's fine let's say you okay my yes it's nuanced um i do believe i speak often at uh thor
03:20:41.300software i say your bloat began the moment you stepped out the front door you know you gather
03:20:47.540your kids in the car you travel across miles and miles of concrete um to come and honor your gods
03:20:54.740that's part of the worth ship you are doing all of that because you feel that the gods are worthy
03:21:02.260of it because of all that they have done and all that they have made for us so deed is
03:21:10.660sacred um however i've all the unfortunate part of that is i've seen people abuse or twist that
03:21:18.660in ways so that's what makes me reticent to say like 100 uh you have to be very careful
03:21:26.340but if you are if you are proclaiming oaths and those oaths say i'm gonna quit smoking or what
03:21:34.900have you um and it it it might tie in other people around you and if you fail you hurt them
03:21:43.140etc so you should take great care in the deeds that you do um
03:21:51.780but ultimately on a soft sense of that if you get better if you because of the gods
03:21:59.300if the gods come you revert to default settings and take on the challenges of your life and meet
03:22:10.980the future with a smiling face and you change your mindset and you change your heart and you
03:22:17.060build better relationships with your family and you build community with your folk etc all of
03:22:22.100that is sacred all of that is why the gods want us to come home so i would say yes the deed is
03:22:33.300a form of sacrifice but i mean that in a very soft sense when you get into the details
03:22:38.740when someone says i'm gonna lose weight and i swear or make an oath or or what have you
03:22:44.500i think that stuff you shouldn't go down that path so much um as you should attempt and keep
03:22:52.740moving forward and keep striving and and keep working with yourself and the gods that's that
03:23:01.300is part of what i think they're watching they're watching us at the well of urd in heaven and
03:23:07.380determining the worth of the folk and they will mark you as good or bad or truly honorable or
03:23:16.420noble or dishonorable or ignorable um based off of your deeds so yes doing good stuff and
03:23:28.340dedicating that accomplishment to the gods is a way of offering just that's it it is true i mean
03:23:37.100it is and it kind of ends there it depends on there's people that want to formalize it in
03:23:43.580a ritual or do whatever i believe very much that doing something good and then in your
03:23:52.060moment of spotlight for doing something good dedicate the accomplishment to the gods to the
03:23:58.220ancestors to a hero to somebody important i think that's a nice way to honor someone i mean it's the
03:24:06.140same way that if you win an award and you go up there and you're like this wind goes out to my
03:24:12.140great grandma susie big up susie that's a nice way to honor your great grandma i think it's also a
03:24:20.140nice way to honor the gods to dedicate an accomplishment to them and i think that's a
03:24:25.260nice thing to do i often say especially this time of year when we're celebrating sigur bloat that
03:24:30.860we worship with our deeds as much as we worship with, you know, offerings poured into the horn.
03:24:37.600We worship with stacking victories and the names of our gods and our folk. So I think that's very
03:24:42.600relevant and very, you know, appropriate. How should one handle political disagreements within
03:24:50.500the AFA? I would like to think that all members are on the same quote unquote side, which is for
03:24:57.480the folk swan what say you well i think no matter where you are on that spectrum you the the priority
03:25:07.720of it in is to be for the folk i have met people in many different political ideological uh orbits
03:25:17.320or gravitational pulls um from uh minarchist and libertarians to nationalists etc met people from
03:25:29.560all over the afa having different spots some spots unquantifiable in their political stuff but always
03:25:37.960pro folk and that's the way it always should be in any ideology or any political spectrum
03:25:45.800that is against the folk is not ausitrue it is because ausitrue is an ethnic faith and
03:25:52.840anything that's against the ethnicity of the very people that the religion comes from it is not
03:25:59.960ausitrue uh so within the afa specifically i think that's that is the case that works
03:26:10.040uh most often is that everyone still no matter where they're if they believe that we should have
03:26:15.240minimalist government or whether we should have more of a an authoritative uh government or a
03:26:21.160monarchy it doesn't matter because they're always thinking about that what is best for the folk but
03:26:28.600when you have globalism and when you have the degenerating of the family and when you have
03:26:34.440tearing down of the western civilization or even i would go so far to say is germanic ethos of
03:26:44.280society um that's not also true and that that should be addressed um that should be argued
03:26:54.600vehemently against if it is against the folk so spawn mentioned the spectrum at the beginning
03:27:03.000and i think that's where i would like to start don't be autistic about your politics within the
03:27:09.080afa on stuff and purity spiral it's really easy and and i i say that not really half jokingly
03:27:17.880because that's what i see happening i say it i guess in a humorous way but
03:27:25.800politics are downstream from religion and i think one of the reasons that that is not self-evident
03:27:33.400is we count a lot of things today as politics that aren't politics your core values are not
03:27:42.120politics and we try to pretend that they are and they're not politics in a fundamental way
03:27:48.920are about legislation or candidates they're about means towards ends
03:27:55.800there can be a great degree of approaches to the betterment of our folk through different means
03:28:04.600it's the intention that matters a lot politics is shaped by the time and the environment and
03:28:13.720myriad factors that don't necessarily have an overt right or wrong religiously
03:28:21.160there are certain things like swan said that are anti the gods that are anti our race that are anti
03:28:29.700the core nobility of our people and those things there's not there's much less variance on the
03:28:40.200spectrum of what's appropriate what's not in those cases but i do think we need to extend each other
03:28:46.560certain amount of grace that there is a wide variety of different answers approaches and ideas
03:28:54.480on the best way to achieve nobility for our folk dignity for our race a future for our children
03:29:04.320there are a lot of ways to go at that and your
03:29:09.600views on that that you may hold very very strongly are not necessarily shared by other
03:29:15.760people especially when we live in a time where we function with a variety of different truths
03:29:23.520out there unfortunately we lack the transparency to know objective truth and a lot of things
03:29:35.280so different people take their truth and their facts from different sources and we often find
03:29:42.400competing facts that from each person's perspective look equally true a lot of time extend the grace
03:29:50.960that maybe the person you're arguing with politically just doesn't know
03:29:58.320also hold out that perhaps maybe there's something that you might not know
03:30:03.040it's not fair to base your political assumptions or to judge other people's political assumptions
03:30:14.640based upon your political assumptions because very often we're talking about two completely
03:30:21.680separate things right that's really important going both ways and always especially when you go
03:30:28.560So, perhaps at different parts of the country, perhaps generationally, there's things that
03:30:36.820a prior generation believes are true that you might know to not be true.
03:30:42.160There may be things that you think are true that other people in a different place in
03:30:46.780a different time with their full best of their knowledge don't believe are true or accurate.
03:30:54.280So try to extend grace with your brothers and sisters in the House True Folk Assembly, trusting that their heart is in the right place and that their goals are noble, even if you would choose a different route towards those goals.
03:31:09.060so yeah it it all depends there's fundamentals that are hard nose but there's also a lot of
03:31:14.740variants of you know different ideas that are are different approaches to a similar