Asatru Folk Assembly - 8⧸9⧸23 Victory Never Sleeps, Episode 57 - ᚨᚱᚲ

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00:03:00.000 hello welcome again to victory never sleeps and uh today is the day of remembrance for

00:03:17.240 king radbot of freesia so hail radbod um yeah welcome i'm excited to talk to witness

00:03:27.640 fawn tonight about the next three runes in our series um we have people watching us hopefully now

00:03:39.080 on uh live on youtube vk rumble odyssey and twitter uh and youtube of course i and entropy

00:03:53.160 so if you guys want to contribute tonight and do any donations on here that can be done at entropy

00:04:01.000 or at rumble uh two great uh great folks that that were able to use our platform and you know

00:04:08.440 support free speech and we like that so um please feel free to go there and donate or also to use

00:04:15.720 the super chat so that you can get your questions to the front of the line because i know when we

00:04:20.520 have spawn on um we typically get a lot of questions and sometimes it can take quite a

00:04:26.680 while to get get to them if we get those super chat questions we'll get to them as

00:04:31.560 quick as we can and bump into the front of the line um other housekeeping stuff we have

00:04:39.880 fray faxy at baldershoff coming up very very soon that's in murdoch minnesota we would love

00:04:46.040 it if you guys can make it um nick if you could throw up excellent there he did hi i don't mean

00:04:51.080 throw up just generally i was gonna say throw up the uh the advertisement um feel free to do both

00:04:57.160 but make sure you mute yourself um yeah if you guys can make it out we would love to see you

00:05:03.000 there i'm looking forward to it those guys have put in a lot of love over last year to

00:05:07.960 baldur's hoff it is an amazing place i'm looking forward to seeing our good friends there and seeing

00:05:14.840 you know what all they've done to the place and sharing that time with our folks so

00:05:19.240 if you're a member come on out we'd love to see you there if you're not a member we would love

00:05:23.240 to see you there just make sure you reach out to the folk builder first and get uh you know

00:05:29.320 properly vetted and taken care of and we'd love to see at the event also if you are in texas we have

00:05:39.160 the uh harvest fest going on in texas i yeah i believe that's in the dallas if you can make

00:05:50.920 that an awesome thing to do our folk builder justin day down there has put in a lot of work

00:05:56.680 on that and is very very excited about it he'd love to see you guys there again if you're a

00:06:02.160 member show up if you're not a member we'd still love you to show up just make sure you

00:06:06.120 check folk builder first and get that all taken care of um any other top of the hour things um

00:06:15.360 oh yeah so something we're doing today as of I guess a couple of updates on Sigurheim

00:06:23.360 we are doing doing awesome we had Sigurbloat at Sigurheim this last month one of the things that

00:06:33.900 has been I don't know a hurdle that we're trying to figure out is keeping all of the tall grass in

00:06:42.520 that field down and manageable so we can use the space so that we can you know significantly less

00:06:51.160 than the bug population so that we can make that a habitable space so we can do things at

00:06:56.300 we are endeavoring to raise money and Nick's throwing up the fundraiser for a zero turn

00:07:02.440 lawnmower to handle that we've got quite a bit of of land up there that we need to keep that grass

00:07:08.280 down on so we've already got people donating we would love it if you guys are feeling generous

00:07:13.560 and you'd like to if you'd like to help if you're listening on uh spotify that's going to be at

00:07:20.760 runestone.org and there's a donate link there and then the the link after that should be

00:07:26.760 self-explanatory on our donate page if you are watching this nick has put up the link right now

00:07:32.440 again we'd love to have you guys help thank you in advance we appreciate everybody's generosity

00:07:37.040 so that folks know winter nights this year is going to be held at Sigerheim for the first time

00:07:43.420 so that is coming up we would love to see you guys there it is an amazing amazing place if

00:07:51.260 you've been there already then you already know and I'd love to see you there if you haven't been

00:07:55.100 there yet now is I say now October is your chance to go there and we'd love to have you guys out

00:08:01.040 and celebrate winter nights with you on in the home of victory.

00:08:07.120 I think I think that's it for for news and updates. Without further ado, we will start

00:08:14.680 our discussion on our three runes for the night. We're going to do it like we did last time to

00:08:20.580 where we'll talk about one rune. We'll hit all the questions in the in the queue and then we

00:08:26.400 will move on to the next rune. So Svan, could you tell the folks about the rune on Seuss?

00:08:38.000 Yeah, absolutely. We're moving on into the next series of the three runes arc, if you will. And

00:08:49.840 And we'll be doing two of the family next time.

00:08:54.640 And then the beginning of the next family, the etir.

00:09:00.080 So we're still in the first etir and we come to the ah sound rune.

00:09:06.840 The A, it signifies the A.

00:09:10.440 And it is in the reconstructed language because we got to remember that the Elder Futhark has no trans,

00:09:18.500 like named translations of the titles of the runes uh and we use old norse anglo-saxon

00:09:26.020 and gothic language uh of the alphabet to retrograde the um the names and so ansuz

00:09:35.620 ansuz is the name it can be spelled many different ways a-n-s-u-z or a-n-s-u-s but

00:09:42.980 the meaning of ansus is where we start to get into some debate about the name the goths called it on

00:09:51.700 uh ans and ans could mean or or uh excuse me or also asa which could mean a god or an ash tree

00:10:02.340 so that immediately kind of starts to throw things but we can look at the um

00:10:07.300 um, the, uh, Icelandic and the Anglo-Frygian Futharks. And even though they're spelled

00:10:14.580 differently, one is spelled with an A and a dash above it, uh, S and the other is spelled O-S-S.

00:10:21.060 They both have the same sound. It's, it's Os. And so Ansuz in using those names correlates to

00:10:29.020 divinity. A god, the gods, singular. The word os is used in Old Norse almost as much as a title

00:10:41.300 name as the word tir, which also means a god or god or a specific god. The difference, though,

00:10:50.000 is that os is not correlated specifically to a god. And so that's caused a lot of

00:10:55.460 debate as to exactly what this means. But first and foremost, I think this rune represents divine

00:11:05.020 message. And it is immediately associated with the Lord Odin. Odin is, of course,

00:11:14.780 the leader of the Aesir, and he is, of course, the one that attained the runes.

00:11:22.460 And as we were talking about in the last episode, we were talking about how the runes kind of create a story replicating much of the overarching mythos, but also we were talking about motion.

00:11:39.480 And we're talking about the expansive motion of Fehu and the condensing motion of Uruz and the piercing motion of Thirzaz.

00:11:48.640 Ansuz is where we start to go vertical.

00:11:51.280 And this is where we talk about the gods in the upper world, in the upper realm.

00:11:56.860 When we talk about our gods, we see our gods as in the upper when we look up to the sky.

00:12:02.340 And so this is really the first semblance in this story arching of the vertical motion and the descendancy of wisdom coming down.

00:12:15.140 And there's multiple occasions of this in which Odin, Thor, and Heimdallr have come down to disseminate knowledge.

00:12:25.640 And so the first and foremost honor of that, though, the attainment of the runes goes to Odin. So Odin is deeply associated with this rune. And it's also because of its connections to the mouth, to speech, and to the knowledge of transferring.

00:12:51.020 And, you know, when we talk about Lord Odin, we do talk about one of the great powers, the enlivening and the synchronic ability of Odin to weave the folk in the material together, to inspire them, to move them, almost as if by a whisper alone, is that power.

00:13:13.600 So Ansuz, though, really is focusing on, say, for instance, in a divination sense, it would be correlated to receiving a message, receiving divine insight, receiving an omen or a sign.

00:13:31.660 And so in essence, it is the rune of runes.

00:13:34.260 It is the mystery of the mysteries.

00:13:37.120 And so this rune has a lot of potent power, but it's not tangible.

00:13:41.700 It's very much like the wind.

00:13:43.160 It rises up and it establishes itself, but not quite, it's almost within itself.

00:13:53.060 So again, I think this nods towards the consciousness of Lord Odin placing himself within Yggdrasil and then transcending even the fabric of all that is to gain the sounds of creation.

00:14:08.560 So most certainly, if we're talking about expansive and condensive and piercing, this is the upward rune. And so the association with air, with breath, with consciousness, and the idea of even in the symbol itself, kind of the rising knowledge and then the two representing the mouth, the disseminating of knowledge.

00:14:30.900 So attainment, retainment, and then exclaimment out of knowledge is all kind of associated with onsous.

00:14:44.900 All right, there you go. So, no, no, no, that's great.

00:14:50.900 So Nick, producer Nick is going to, last time I read rune poems to you guys, producer Nick

00:14:57.780 is going to throw those up graphically and I will read them, but just so we're on the

00:15:03.060 same, okay, he's throwing it up, but super, super tiny.

00:15:07.020 So let me see if I can, can squint and try to read this.

00:15:11.460 This is, which one is this, Nick?

00:15:14.320 Is this the old English?

00:15:15.640 Is this the Norwegian or is this the Icelandic?

00:15:20.900 i say that like nick's gonna pop on and say something no this looks like it's probably not

00:15:27.720 so that's old icelandic i should know this stuff that's okay all right so uh no this is uh this

00:15:37.700 is old norse i mean uh not old norse anglo-saxon i can see it on the screen i can't see it on the

00:15:44.320 screen but okay cool anyways without further ado um god is the source of all language a pillar of

00:15:56.500 wisdom and a comfort to wise men a blessing and a joy to every night um so the confusion is that

00:16:06.140 first god term and it depends on the translation but the ones i was looking at it pops up differently

00:16:12.660 uh it's a mouth and it's included but again the idea of the name itself translates to god or a

00:16:22.420 god or to estuary or mouth um which is is fine and dandy with that um i think the correlation

00:16:33.300 there is that they're when when you see the anglo-saxon room poems and they immediately

00:16:37.380 have christian overtones and again in the last episode we were talking about how the anglo-saxon

00:16:42.980 rune poems are actually the oldest of them uh they have christian so i like the tone of them

00:16:50.340 a lot though they are much more overtly

00:16:56.580 pious slash moral whereas the others are more linguistic mnemonic devices

00:17:03.620 and whereas the christian overtone is a little bit off-putting the knightly overtone is is really

00:17:11.380 cool and they use that quite a bit and so i think those ideas of piety and nobility are really

00:17:17.380 stressed there whereas the others it's just a linguistic tool and this talks a little bit about

00:17:22.340 the deeper esoterics of the roads yeah and i think also that lends to the the importance of

00:17:27.780 alliterative poetry amongst the scalds and the and the the court uh poets of the norse as opposed

00:17:37.060 to this being written down in the anglo-saxon time frame and it was kind of like the the poet

00:17:43.220 the warrior and the lord were all starting to kind of meld and condense at that time because

00:17:48.340 more of the the um i guess the their their structure the anglo-saxon structure was

00:17:55.540 much more uh regimented than than the norse all right well nick could you throw on could

00:18:01.460 you put up the next one please all right uh odin is the olden father and asgarther's chieftain

00:18:14.660 the leader of valhall this is the icelandic one and this is you know very specific and

00:18:22.900 unequivocal this is odin's rune he's you know the father of ancient times he is he is the

00:18:29.940 the leader of the the realm of the gods and he is is the the host and the lord of his great hall

00:18:37.140 foul hall uh can you throw up uh the next one on here for us excellent uh os is most journeys

00:18:47.140 dealings but uh sheath is the swords okay but sheath is the swords um scabbards yeah

00:18:59.540 i've got translations about this it is the scabbard of swords

00:19:05.300 yeah so i don't like that um cool the version that i have reads estuary is the way of most journeys

00:19:15.060 but a scabbard is of swords um and again this talks about the the mouth of rivers the mouth of

00:19:23.380 things mouth is an orifice that that things go into um or expand out forward like that is where

00:19:32.500 you set sail on a journey is also where the sword goes to rest um and then i'd also like to mention

00:19:42.340 the um the arminen use of this rune and it's it's uh os i believe in the in the arminen system

00:19:52.420 a fourth i know if men make fast and chains the joints of my limbs when i sing that song

00:19:58.820 which shall set me free spring the fetters from my hands and feet so through

00:20:05.860 divinity and through the the power of speech and the divine power of speech

00:20:14.700 it can set you free and it's a liberating force and i think that's certainly true

00:20:20.220 um big things to remember with with ansu's is and has always been um

00:20:29.780 that creative breath from from the gods we see the most primal elements both Ymir and Odin with

00:20:40.800 associations of of roaring of speaking of shouting into existence our our existence

00:20:49.840 of conjuring through through Galder through speech of incantation and

00:20:57.720 And speech, speech is the first way that something internal becomes external.

00:21:10.200 We talk a lot about we are our deeds in Ausitru.

00:21:16.560 The difference between having a good idea and doing a good action, the intermediary stage is speaking it.

00:21:26.280 this is like when you when you talk about oaths this is something that i'm really aware of in

00:21:33.240 my job as i'll tell you go through the afa when i have a really you know an idea that i think is

00:21:39.480 really great idea i want to do for our folk i don't want to talk about it until i've got a

00:21:46.440 solid plan because i don't want to it creates bad weird to speak things into existence unwisely

00:21:58.840 so if i'm going to by speaking it i'm making something that

00:22:02.760 was just in my head speaking it into the world makes it real

00:22:08.760 once it's real and in the world then there's consequence if i've made a promise and said

00:22:13.160 i'm going to do something then i have a commitment that i have to fulfill it um this is part of the

00:22:20.200 idea that fafner demanded that sigurd give his name to him after he after he struck his mortal

00:22:30.120 blow and it was a a taboo amongst our ancestors you didn't tell a dying man you know who's mad 0.99

00:22:37.240 at you your name because with their dying breath they would curse you by knowing your name they

00:22:41.960 could affix bad things to you they could magically put bad things on you if they speak your name

00:22:49.320 because speaking is so very important um i guess what i have to add on this rune at this point

00:22:58.120 and i think we can go to some questions while while the questions are being loaded um one thing

00:23:04.840 that's worth noting when we talk about the um anglo-saxon uh usage of it as clearly when they

00:23:13.320 talk about god or the or the word they're talking again in in a kind of con context of the connection

00:23:19.560 between sound and the word of like yahweh and their religion but but also there's clearly a

00:23:27.640 connection to the voice and the sound of odin and his as alzergo they brought up the the breath

00:23:34.840 So if we're talking about that arc of the of the if we're talking about Fehu being the ignition of Muspelheim and the the dross that's burned off of Nivelheim and Adumla and Yggdrasil in the creation and condensing of the universe.

00:23:51.760 And then Therizaz, of course, being the formulation of Ymir in the center and thus creating the first tripartite of Yggdrasil, Adumla, and Ymir. 0.85

00:24:04.780 then when the, when the gods, the epoch or this part of the arc of the mythos is on Zeus is when

00:24:11.800 the gods are elevated and the gods come down, Odin comes down and breathes on into and shapes

00:24:22.200 the folk. And so in this sense, like we're seeing a formulation of a story. And so this,

00:24:31.720 this is about vertical and descendancy of knowledge. Really, really important. And you

00:24:37.160 can see that from the wisdom of the scabbard being placed in the sword or when to draw it,

00:24:42.640 the estuary and the starting of the journey. And I mean, of course, the Icelandic one is

00:24:48.580 pretty straightforward. It is worth noting that in the Icelandic one, at the end, there is mention

00:24:55.520 of um jupiter because at the end of the icelandic rune poems there are these uh these uh kind of

00:25:04.520 latin based connections at the end of it and so one of the things that really holds true to this

00:25:11.800 is when people are and and this is a whole nother subject we kind of touched on about um the

00:25:17.760 desperation for the search of the singular sky daddy um uh because i think there's a a desperation

00:25:25.540 in it without looking at some other things but um and of course when you say that people are like

00:25:32.060 are you saying oh that isn't and i'm not saying that at all um but there is a connection there

00:25:37.780 when we talk about uh deus pater and um uh jupiter and odin that the the really the one big connection

00:25:48.660 that a lot of people point to is that mentioning of the uh it says uh jupiter odvidi is at the end

00:25:56.820 of that rune poem so um i just thought that would be like a little nugget to throw out there if

00:26:03.060 you're looking at the rune poems and you don't have those little latin pieces at the end definitely

00:26:07.220 find them because they're worth having a kind of connection there all right so first question and

00:26:15.060 we're getting this thrown in there first is the order it ought to be i think that's how

00:26:20.420 it's nice that it goes down like that um gentlemen how is y'all's evening tonight

00:26:30.900 i'm doing fantastic my evening's going good like say look forward to these every week uh talking

00:26:36.340 as fun about the ruins is always good times i've got a couple of different imperial ipas to uh

00:26:43.700 wet my whistle while we're talking this evening so i am i am doing all right and

00:26:48.580 i've been super excited because we got an enthusiastic group of guys that have been

00:26:52.980 putting in some work at sigerheim and i'm still on the high off of being at sigerheim a couple

00:26:57.620 of weeks ago um that's that's my happy place that i go just when i'm daydreaming of the stuff we're

00:27:03.860 going to do there the house i'm going to have there the the hall that we're going to build

00:27:09.060 and the uh the hofta tier that we're going to build there so i'm having a good day as far as

00:27:13.780 that goes uh how are you doing swan i am doing great uh this evening this evening time um

00:27:22.980 i uh i ran a terrain race over the weekend with my son and um i realized a couple things one that

00:27:30.500 was i was very proud of my son because he was he the only obstacles he he only did skip two and

00:27:37.300 that was because of uh well technicalities of his hands weren't big enough to get over some of these

00:27:43.060 obstacles so he couldn't really do them um because he's not even he hasn't even done his man making

00:27:48.580 yet but um you know uh to run with him and go over all the other obstacles but i also realized

00:27:55.060 my age and and the uh the uh accumulative damage of the military over time has really done a number

00:28:02.900 on on my old man knees so i am i am a rickety rickety guy right now even up till now i'm still

00:28:12.260 shaky it's been almost a whole week yeah i had uh a regular i don't know i've been slacking on

00:28:20.740 my jujitsu just to let myself heal up a little bit and this night was the first time back in

00:28:26.500 about a week and a half and um for those of you that don't know i do uh danzen rue japanese jujitsu

00:28:33.860 so it's a lot of throws and gravity adversely affects me as a as a heroically proportioned

00:28:41.140 gentleman um compared to some of the other guys in class when all you know 238 pounds of me is

00:28:47.620 coming down on the mat it uh tell you what i felt it this morning i was hobbling around all day so

00:28:54.820 feeling feeling the old man wearing our next question is which translation of the poetic

00:29:02.260 etta do you recommend most i don't play that game there's a lot of people that really do

00:29:07.540 have strong preferences i don't i really like mixing and matching and being

00:29:15.220 promiscuous with my translations because honestly, I think that by looking at all the different ones

00:29:22.340 together, I'm able to piece it together in a, I don't know, more complete way. Like I can

00:29:29.360 take some from one, some from another and match things up and I can see what's consistent and I

00:29:36.180 can see what's not in those. So I really don't have a hard one that I'm bound to. What say you,

00:29:44.000 fun i do but i i think i i have legitimate reasoning but i think a lot of people don't

00:29:50.720 realize like the gothlinger in the afa that the the pre-seminary uh track where they're where they

00:30:00.000 the go the goth are kind of prepping to even tackle the idea of it um we go over all the

00:30:06.240 translations across the board but i do have a preference um it's hollander and i know that

00:30:14.560 pulls a lot of people but i think first and foremost i'm uh i'm a scald or i'm a poet

00:30:22.960 at heart and i really like the english language because it wasn't my first language and i find it

00:30:28.400 very beautiful and i so i find that translation holds the spirit of poetics while keeping it in

00:30:37.360 english and kind of like bridges the gap between nordic and english um it conveys a lot of the

00:30:45.680 spirit in but does not get the translations completely right um so you just kind of have to

00:30:51.360 to bear with it. But I'm really becoming a fan of Thorpe and Bellows as far as the way they

00:31:00.800 translated specific words that throw a lot of people off. And that a lot of people that

00:31:06.220 attempt to translate, especially here in the modern age, I find that their translations do

00:31:15.100 hold up to a lot of kind of the um shooting from the hip guys nowadays where um certain words like

00:31:22.300 you read them and you can see the construction of those words are much better bellows seems to

00:31:26.620 understand that very well thorpe does as well thorpe especially um but you look at these modern

00:31:35.100 uh kind of takes on certain words and they're all they're way out in left field sometimes so

00:31:42.060 So I'd be, I'd be coming more of a fan of them structurally.

00:31:48.400 All right. And I'll say this, Hollander is the one I'm most familiar with. That was the first

00:31:56.140 version that I read. And so, you know, I, again, I don't really have a strong preference, but that's

00:32:01.900 probably the one that I'm most familiar with and is, you know, in my head, the firmest.

00:32:07.760 um so travis is talking about this and i've also got eric talking to me about it on the side

00:32:14.780 wanting me to mention it um in the afa we have a like a men's uh men's chat group where guys talk

00:32:23.620 about different things and uh i'll just read his question then i'll tell you a little bit more

00:32:29.400 about it so good evening also here you go with you matt and witness fun myself plus 25 other of

00:32:35.800 our menfolk in the AFA just completed a four-day fast for the Odin World Prayer Day. Are you guys

00:32:42.740 going to join us next month? So Odin World Prayer Day is a thing that a Swedish member came up with

00:32:51.740 a number of years ago. And on the ninth of every month, a lot of people synchronize and will do,

00:32:57.860 you know, prayers to the All-Father to awaken our folk. And these gentlemen got together and

00:33:04.960 decided to flex their willpower and, you know, make a sacrifice. And as an offering to, to the

00:33:11.300 all father to put in a four day complete fast. And there's, you know, additional on it that I heard

00:33:17.460 it is a complete, just water, no food, four day fast. So congratulations to them. That is a

00:33:26.700 testament. That is absolutely a testament to willpower. And that's, that's fantastic. And

00:33:32.480 it's absolutely impressive. I wonder why four, I would, I would gladly do three, um, fasting,

00:33:39.080 you know, especially a complete fast, water fast, uh, only, um, you know, and I've always heard

00:33:45.080 about the dangers of going past three days at that point, body stops, um, you know, healing

00:33:51.960 itself and starts to be destroyed, uh, internally or, you know, things going on there. So I wonder

00:33:58.780 why that is and especially because olden is the tripartite within the tripartite because they're

00:34:04.300 sacrificing self to self they are uh they're they're gleaming that cube they're they're pushing

00:34:11.100 the boundaries uh no i will not be joining you with that next month i'm not a big fan of

00:34:16.540 fasting myself a part of what i'm trying to do with myself and my body is to i don't know get

00:34:25.740 the best physical conditioning i can get work on that and you know make a little bit of progress

00:34:31.660 every month um and i found that fasting doesn't work very well for me um i don't want the

00:34:41.180 deterioration of muscle tissue or muscle gain and i also quite honestly i salute your guys

00:34:50.700 ability to do that drive me insane and i think that my wife and child deserve a version of me

00:34:57.180 that is not fasting um but i i absolutely respect what you guys are doing that's a huge huge thing

00:35:04.780 and i don't know if anybody has tried to fast before or whatever but a four-day fast of just

00:35:10.700 water is that is daunting and that is quite a feat so hats off to you gentlemen that's amazing

00:35:17.260 i would like to uh i would just maybe i i'll go and talk in there and uh argue the case of a three

00:35:25.500 day as opposed to a four spawn's gonna come in there trying to trying to sell you guys weak sauce

00:35:33.100 but i i also commit to a personal it's um a personal fast uh before yule i i i and another

00:35:42.220 a friend of mine from a long time ago um started it where we would 12 days start and it's called

00:35:49.100 the widening um it doesn't always have to condition itself towards eating or a fast

00:35:54.540 so the widening is kind of a funny choice of words but yeah i was gonna say there's a lot

00:35:57.980 of people around the holidays that practice the widening well and in relation to vidar and the

00:36:04.140 widening uh as in his name the uh the widening of the jaws of avarice uh the widening of the

00:36:11.820 mouth of fenrir um is kind of the the allegoric meaning so it could be basically depriving

00:36:18.940 yourself of anything that um can be uh seen as i don't know whether it's i mean and food's not

00:36:27.180 really that case but i know that as yule's coming you will and the the widening that everyone gets

00:36:33.100 into it can be kind of uh daunting or or or you know it's about keeping focused um you know but

00:36:40.540 sometimes it's 12 days of going to the gym or it's 12 days of you know running a certain amount

00:36:44.780 of time or walking a certain amount of time or whatever it might be uh just holding true to that

00:36:49.660 so i'm used to fasting fasting isn't my thing but these periodic things to test your willpower to

00:36:59.980 test your ability on stuff there's a lot to be said for that and um i don't know if ladies

00:37:07.820 approach that the same way but certainly for men finding finding challenges sometimes creating

00:37:14.780 challenges to see if you can hold up to them see if you can and rise up to them that's a really

00:37:22.380 important thing that i'd love to see more men uh do and i think that's really great that they're

00:37:27.740 that they're able to do that and not not just that they're able to do it but the fact that

00:37:32.540 they're able to do it together to gain strength from each other to gain competition from each

00:37:39.100 other to push a little bit harder to dig a little bit deeper to do a little bit more i think that's

00:37:44.380 really cool to see and i'm very glad they're able to do that yeah i'm pushing for ice baths this year

00:37:51.660 you and you know you and the law speaker law speaker will join you uh we're not that kind

00:37:57.580 of organization maybe not joining states yeah but you guys separated by states can

00:38:04.220 synchronize ice baths or whatever he's a fan of that um

00:38:09.900 our next question is are there afa members that can read the eddas in their original language

00:38:16.380 so it's an interesting answer as of right now not that i know of but recently our gothar have

00:38:29.180 embarked together on on a similar thing i suppose we've challenged ourselves to take on the task of

00:38:35.500 learning a new language and together our gothar are endeavoring to learn at least how to read

00:38:43.260 then hopefully how to pronounce and speak a little bit of old norse so we've kind of taken

00:38:48.220 that on together and we're about three weeks into that process i think it's harder for some than for

00:38:55.740 others languages is a it's an interesting skill set that some people are very very good at like

00:39:03.260 the concept of learning languages um and one of my very best friends and a kid i grew up with um

00:39:09.740 it's funny because he's he's a colonel now and he is a leader of men and I still treat him like a

00:39:19.220 little brother because that's how we we grew up but he always always impressed me growing up

00:39:25.820 learning languages he ended up getting degrees in languages and now he speaks he fluently speaks I

00:39:32.480 think four or five languages so I'm really impressed with that I am I'm not blessed with

00:39:37.620 that skill. So I find it much more difficult, but it's fascinating. It's something we, like I said,

00:39:41.620 we just started doing. But Svan is leading us in that effort. He is one step closer. As a son of

00:39:49.600 Iceland, he speaks the closest living language that is related to Old Norse. And so he's got

00:39:57.580 a leg up on that. Yeah. And I was going to say to the question is, you know, I came to the States

00:40:05.320 i was very very young i was uh six so but english wasn't my first language but it was hard pressed

00:40:12.440 on me and uh even though i grew up in the south i learned english from teachers so my there's no

00:40:20.200 kind of discernible accents um they uh but the the the good part about that is that i retained

00:40:27.960 all of the ability to pronounce icelandic i don't speak it conversationally and i think that's a

00:40:33.320 And a thing I want to be clear with people is, you know, I don't conversate with in Icelandic on a regular basis at all because there's nobody around me that really speaks it unless I go to like the Icelandic social club that is in Virginia.

00:40:52.700 But it still is I'm able to read it and pronounce it and don't really struggle with the linguistic rules as much.

00:41:02.060 so as we're doing this and learning it's becoming uh increasingly easier almost as

00:41:08.220 if i'm just kind of remembering things that have always kind of been in there so

00:41:17.660 sorry i was just checking up on the chat see if we got anything

00:41:21.020 else coming through that needs to oh all right so this one came through i don't know if it's a

00:41:27.580 question or a directive or whatever, but it's, it's, it's something I want to do regardless.

00:41:34.200 Whitten Daniel Young says, I'll hear you go with you. Please challenge our folk,

00:41:38.380 men and women alike to better take care of their health.

00:41:45.300 So Daniel put it out there. So I might overshare. He might be mad at me. That might happen,

00:41:50.700 but that's okay. I'll take one for the team. Daniel recently had a pretty concerning health

00:41:56.360 scare and one of the reasons i think that he's here being able to have this conversation with

00:42:02.280 us is because he does take good care of himself it's funny um he's got he's got a lot of fat man

00:42:08.040 ailments but he's not a fat man so it's really kind of strange but he and i were talking about

00:42:12.680 it just before this broadcast our health is so very important and you know a lot of us feel that

00:42:21.160 more acutely as we get older but take good care of yourselves you know um time is one of our most

00:42:29.880 precious commodities you know when we pass beyond the veil we will exist in in mythic time and our

00:42:37.320 priorities might shift but in the meantime the time we've got here in midgard with our families

00:42:43.000 contributing to the afa building a legacy for ourself here it really matters um you know i've

00:42:51.000 I've noticed that my wife and I were both 39 when we had our daughter and we're going to be old when she's, you know, when she's young doing things and she deserves to have active parents.

00:43:01.920 So we've got to, you know, try double hard to not be old and crusty and decrepit and not being able to do stuff with her.

00:43:11.460 I don't. You know, I don't think this is necessarily an AFA problem specifically. 0.83

00:43:18.120 I think this is certainly an American problem. I think it's a Western problem a little bit more

00:43:23.120 generally. We got a lot of fat people. If you're fat, stop. If you're getting fat, get less fat. 0.99

00:43:31.040 All of us, that's one of the things. None of us are perfect, but we can all tomorrow be better

00:43:37.140 than we are today. We can all make an improvement by the next time we talk to each other and we can

00:43:43.420 help each other do that. But yeah, whatever your situation is, if you're scrawny, go out there,

00:43:48.940 try to get stronger. If you're fat, try to get less fat. If you're slow, try to get faster. If 0.88

00:43:54.160 you're dumb, get smarter. If, you know, and I'm being frank, it doesn't even have to be something 1.00

00:43:59.860 bad. If you're smart, still get smarter. If you're strong, get even stronger. If you're in good shape,

00:44:06.920 get in better shape. You know, there's all stuff we can do to improve, but your health is so very

00:44:11.360 important and we got a lot of people with preventable health problems if you can fix that

00:44:15.920 do that do it for yourself and do it for everybody out there watching also too just the way we look

00:44:23.280 the attempt of discipline and moving uh you know there this is a very visual world and and i'm i'm

00:44:31.520 a barber so style or self-discipline of style is important to me and the idea that you know i wear

00:44:39.680 this like i wore this to work i this is how i dress so um i'm trying more and more to dress

00:44:46.560 you know more professionally and it's it is really considerate of of us to present ourselves to the

00:44:53.200 world in the the best way and the best way to do that is to physically mentally spiritually

00:44:58.800 be healthy and exude that in in your you know the discipline of of your hair and your facial hair and

00:45:06.560 and that's the thing we want to look our best and a lot of people find that shallow or whatever

00:45:12.240 those people are wrong um your first impression that you make on folks says a lot about you

00:45:18.880 and in also true we are very aware that it doesn't just say something about you

00:45:23.680 it says something about your partner it says something about your family it says something

00:45:30.160 about us as the afa and it says something about also true are in general and i guess on even a

00:45:35.760 bigger thing it says something about white folks um how you look and how you present yourself

00:45:41.920 look your best look your best for your family for your gods for all the rest of us for those of us 0.73

00:45:47.280 standing next to you in a picture for your spouse for yourself so you carry yourself with your head

00:45:54.400 high and your chest out with pride and dignity and how you look look good it's not a bad thing

00:45:59.840 we should all want to look our very best celebrating beauty is is a very aryan thing for us to do

00:46:05.760 Um, that is the questions that we have so far. So I think it is time for us to move on to Ribo.

00:46:16.060 Please tell folks about Ribo.

00:46:20.680 So, uh, yeah. And I wanted to mention for the folks here as well, just remember when Alciragothi is bringing up the Armanin.

00:46:29.340 The one thing to remember is that the Armanid is completely sourced from the Halvamal, and it is sourced from the Runetal, which is in the Halvamal.

00:46:41.880 And so there are the 19 runes, and those rune poems are kind of sourced in connection to Maestro Guidovan List's holding lateral to the meaning of the runes, the Armanid.

00:46:58.100 so that's one thing if you're looking for the rune poems and you're like where are these coming

00:47:02.040 from that's where they're coming from so worth noting or just look up the armanin um

00:47:08.180 so again we we've we're and i'm i'm reiterating and reiterating over and over again about

00:47:16.300 movement about the movement of the runes and the epochs of the runes and the story that they they

00:47:21.580 tell and the the construction of of the elder futhark in its in its quite in its perfection

00:47:30.380 um in my opinion and this one is the circular motion this is this is where we have the upward

00:47:37.900 and then afterwards with with raido we have rotation and alignment so this is the circular

00:47:46.680 rune. And it doesn't look circular, but we'll get to it in a second. First off, the pronunciation

00:47:53.140 of the word. There's some confusion. You'll hear some people say it with a hard D,

00:48:01.780 raido, or you might hear it with raido. And that's because of a little bit of confusion

00:48:07.820 that happened in the 80s and 90s when they were printing books and they didn't have the

00:48:12.860 ed which is a d with a line through it in icelandic they oftentimes supplemented that

00:48:19.820 with a dh and that was just symbolic of the ed so if you look at some of the older aussitrew books

00:48:25.580 written by um people that were writing about uh as a budding faith um sometimes they even spell

00:48:32.700 uh lord olvin's name o-d-h-i-n-n and so there's a little bit of um linguistic kind of back and

00:48:42.060 forth and it's also true with the pronunciation of the r itself the r and the sound are in the

00:48:49.980 germanic languages is all over the place if you look at this the scots the scots trill their r's

00:48:58.620 but the irish do not the german do not the english do not but the the north the uh the danes

00:49:09.260 the icelanders you know there's a trill in the r sound um and that's because linguistically

00:49:17.980 especially during the time the printing press a lot of things were changing the the the th sound

00:49:24.220 stopped being a thorn and it got changed to a d like in german so you know deutschland became

00:49:30.860 deutschland um thunor became donner and so there's a lot of other things to to consider when we talk

00:49:40.700 about this rune is uh for instance when doing galder or just uh you know the proto sounds do

00:49:47.100 we say the r sound or do we say that the the trilled um i've had people ask me that and

00:49:53.500 And I really think it's at the root of every sound, whether it's trilled or soft, is the construction of the arch of that sound.

00:50:06.640 So imagining like the difference between a smooth wheel and a sprocketed wheel, the curvature is still the same.

00:50:13.980 And that's the key to understanding this kind of vocalization of this.

00:50:17.820 but in the folk futhark we use it in in relation to the way english uses the letter r um

00:50:25.260 this rune is about movement but movement in a very particular way this rune is called

00:50:33.700 the the riding rune and a lot of people associate it to uh the symbology of it being almost like if

00:50:40.740 you turned it at 180 and you could see the, or excuse me, 90 degrees and see a wagon without a

00:50:49.580 wheel almost. A lot of people kind of, I think, correlate the pictures as more of a visual

00:50:56.660 alliteration to the meanings. But the meaning is the riding rune. It's the rune of riding or the

00:51:03.920 rune of movement. And that is very important, especially when we do talk about the movement

00:51:09.120 of the runes the circular aspect of this is that now we're talking about the the the holy gods have

00:51:18.080 risen up begin to attain and disseminate knowledge even incorporating the breath but also to aligning

00:51:27.920 the movements of things so that the polaric forces are set and then everything begins to revolve

00:51:35.520 the sun knew not her place the moon knew not his place and they were then set in their courses and

00:51:42.480 what this is really talking about is the alignment of all movement going on in the in the world and

00:51:49.200 in the in the universe um it speaks a lot about movement indeed um and it talks about more or

00:51:57.520 less the idea of gaining the ability to flow with the correct course of time sometimes we call that

00:52:07.760 alignment of weird or the alignment of oral and the idea that our deeds and our actions and our

00:52:15.200 words and our overall uh whether it's the the the culture of our of our folk everything kind of

00:52:23.360 coming into a natural alignment and following the path that is really where raido is about

00:52:30.320 um the reason why we celebrate our bloats at certain times of the year is because it's about

00:52:37.760 realigning ourselves and keeping ourselves on track and this rune is it that's what it's about

00:52:45.680 but when you see it like say in divination this rune coming up has a tendency to be immediately

00:52:52.000 correlated with physical travel and that is pertinent but there's also the spiritual travel

00:52:57.840 or the traveling through hierarchy the traveling through um you know in relation to perhaps uh

00:53:06.880 unseen distances and so it could also be associated with traveling you know uh outside of oneself

00:53:15.840 there is an esoteric kind of usage of this rune as well as also the idea of it being

00:53:23.200 um exoteric in the idea that uh you know duke can the obligation of of honoring your ancestors of

00:53:30.560 honoring the gods going through the orthopraxy that is set by your culture then ends up

00:53:38.080 replenishing yourself so this cycle of giving out and receiving in foundationally builds itself so

00:53:45.360 it could have a lot of meanings in that outside of just physical travel

00:53:52.640 so i'll get to the rune pones here in a second but i wanted to talk about this one of my favorite

00:53:58.160 runes would certainly come to be one of my favorite rooms um certainly all the things

00:54:06.320 that swan said but but more it's the rune of

00:54:14.240 equitas it's the rune of man and horse united it's the rune of the night

00:54:19.440 um it's the rune that in the arminen system is uh writ which is the shortened of ritter

00:54:28.400 which is a knight in germanic um it's the idea of nobility and right action at the right time

00:54:36.320 It's not just movement, but it's capturing synchronicity through the right movements at the right time.

00:54:44.100 And that's one of the big keys to esoteric efficacy, I think, and to magic generally, is to be able to draw things to you, draw synchronicities to you, to recognize those synchronicities and then to act on them appropriately.

00:55:05.200 And if you can't do all of those steps, then you miss that perfect moment.

00:55:13.540 But being able to recognize and execute right action at the right time is essential to what

00:55:23.460 we do.

00:55:24.600 So much so that Rhytho was the original sigil of the Astro Free Assembly back in the 1980s.

00:55:33.060 a red rhido on a black field. It has become the, I got to figure out the mirror thing that my 0.71

00:55:46.140 camera does, but it's the rune of our priesthood. It's again, it's that consistent right action at

00:55:53.880 the right time and fulfilling that cycle over and over again, creating momentum with that.

00:56:00.620 yeah i think a lot of people asked us well a lot of people asked us about that why the choice of

00:56:06.980 of raido in relation to the priesthood because a lot of people were thinking i and i i get it

00:56:12.360 they understand maybe ansu's for wisdom and the dissemination of wisdom or even othala and the

00:56:17.840 idea of the the hoth and i think it was um i mean of course the nod back to our foundings but also

00:56:26.800 to the idea that there is no resting uh for for the goldies the goldies have to move forward the

00:56:33.460 the the organization that we are is about correctively moving forward and why is that

00:56:40.580 what's what do you mean it's because victory never sleep well yes so realistically and this

00:56:50.220 is one of the beautiful things about our rooms and it's not just bs you could make a case for

00:56:55.500 most of these runes. But the idea and one of the most special things about our runes and about

00:57:02.080 using them and internalizing them is that they are that lens. The challenge of, okay, how would

00:57:09.200 this rune apply to practicing as a priest correctly? And then creating or recognizing

00:57:17.660 those connections, that's a very valid way of using our runes.

00:57:21.400 you know some people might say that you could you could interpret the runes however you want

00:57:28.600 and to a degree there's some truth in that but the ability to see the world through the lens

00:57:34.580 of the runes to create those connections is part of the really special blessing that us knowing

00:57:42.220 the runes teaches us and that's part of the gift that the all-father won for us through his rune

00:57:47.780 list um go ahead yeah i was gonna say yeah that that the uh the the uh connection that we gained

00:57:55.300 through the interpretation is also could be argued that was placed there by the gods knowing as they

00:58:00.900 know many things beyond human comprehension is that knowing that this the translational ideas

00:58:06.420 of an epoch or a story being told and how they correlate so cleanly there's another thing for

00:58:13.140 for the folks um if you one of the things that i my teacher taught me was about the wheel of thor

00:58:18.980 because some of the um the big things about okra thor and the idea of about thor's movement his uh

00:58:28.100 his edge writing there's a couple of names pause when you say that some folks listening may not be

00:58:33.060 familiar what does oku thor mean turning or or rotationally moving there the this and we kind

00:58:42.420 of went into that with the tripartite and the the understanding of the arian divinity by many names

00:58:49.540 as the striker and one of the defining factors of the striker amongst our people and his the glory

00:58:56.260 of him is his movement his rotational movement and there's a lot of you know esoteric ideas and

00:59:04.260 about the um rotation and magnetism of the earth the the understanding of electromagnets and and

00:59:10.580 you know the vertical vertical axis when we talk about the belt of strength and the gloves

00:59:15.060 and the iron rod in the middle of the belt and we're starting in and mjolnir being a switch

00:59:20.020 there's a lot of interesting stuff there um about the transference of energy and movement circular

00:59:25.540 movement um one of the interesting things is if you draw a circle and you you place all of the

00:59:32.660 the raido runes on top of each other so they're the tops are connected in each of the cardinal

00:59:38.420 points and the appendages are all kind of facing in the same direction that bind rune if you will

00:59:44.820 or symbol was often uh you know was taught to me by my teacher as the the wheel of thor and the

00:59:51.300 idea of invoking his name as lawrider or the the the loud rider or einrider the lone or singular

01:00:01.220 rider uh the movement of his edge writing on keeping boundaries and maintaining spatial

01:00:09.700 correctiveness is about that movement and so a little bit like for folks if they want to

01:00:15.780 see a cool symbol is doing the wheel of thor you know i've mentioned this a little bit earlier

01:00:21.860 with the poems but you know the the idea of medieval knighthood is really cool to me

01:00:27.460 symbolically but i think it's really important the relationship between mounted warrior and horse

01:00:38.340 is as arian as it gets that's one of the foundations of our people was that domestication

01:00:44.580 of the horse especially in conquest and in warfare the idea of the chariot which again

01:00:50.740 thor rides a chariot now yes his is pulled by goats but the the use of the chariot conquering

01:00:57.300 the plains of the steppes and the caucasus um the riding on the horse that's the beginning of

01:01:03.220 nobility in europe is the warrior aristocracy atop horseback whether they fought from horseback or

01:01:08.900 whether they just were well off enough that they owned a horse the combination of man and steed

01:01:15.380 and another way symbolically the combination of the astral or man with the divine spark

01:01:22.660 riding and taming the beast this powerful beast that is the war horse under control of the writer

01:01:30.900 putting both of those elements of life in their proper order and that has

01:01:36.900 analogous relationships to hermetics to you know alchemy to all of those things and western

01:01:45.380 esoterics is the the uh bestial principle being subservient to the the astral to the consciousness

01:01:56.020 to the directed divine divine will and that's really important there's a lot of a lot of really

01:02:04.260 neat things i think to to write though but with that we'll get into our rune poems if you'd be

01:02:10.340 so nice as to throw those up keep in mind icelandic and norwegian is much more a equals aardvark

01:02:17.700 whereas um the the anglo-saxon is much more heavy in esoteric or religious connotations

01:02:26.740 All right. Riding seems easy to every warrior while he is indoors and very courageous to him

01:02:37.560 who travels on the high roads on the back of a stout horse. So again, it's much easier to talk

01:02:46.780 about it than to be about it. And it's got that very clear connection of man upon a horse.

01:02:53.500 next yeah that was the anglo-saxon

01:02:58.700 and uh writing is blessed sitting and a swift journey and the toil of the horse i think that's

01:03:10.840 the icelandic yes and one of the ways uh for the folks listening is that these rune poems

01:03:17.640 you could tell the Anglo-Saxon is longer, and again, connections to nobility and piety,

01:03:24.200 whereas the Icelandic is more alliterative and has kind of a poetic flair to it. The Norwegian

01:03:31.040 is oftentimes just two sentences, and they're actually kind of in juxtaposition to each other

01:03:36.260 just by the way, at first, you know, the way they sound. All right, and now if we can see the

01:03:42.620 norwegian uh riding is said for horses worst uh reagan forged the swords of swords the best

01:03:55.740 ray and the smith of sigmund that i mean sig uh sigurd sigurd

01:04:02.300 so they make connection right there and an interesting uh concept of like riding and

01:04:09.920 movement and then formulation in relation to that sword was reforged from sigmunders sword correct

01:04:20.320 yes so the alignment of a broken blade to its true purpose yeah and for those of you who are

01:04:26.080 not familiar that comes from the the story of of uh sigurd or siegfried uh battling fafner

01:04:32.400 um and then in the arminen uh writ rune the uh stanza from the rune at all that that it uh

01:04:46.880 connects to a fifth i know when i see by foes shot speeding a shaft through the host

01:04:54.400 flies it never so strongly i still can stay it if i get but a glimpse of its flight

01:04:59.920 so go ahead i wanted to bring that up because we didn't i didn't um what about the fetters

01:05:07.120 and the loosing of fetters in the room at all in relation to the arman and the way that maestro

01:05:12.800 grito van list was looking at the runes in their uh in their placement especially amongst the old

01:05:19.600 norse is that the the olden releasing the fetters through speech this happens in numerous occasions

01:05:27.200 in which the fetters are spoken or or spelled loose if you will uh like loose loosening the 0.75

01:05:34.320 evil eye or loosening a curse or loosening quite physically fetters or um you know bondages that

01:05:42.320 of imprisonment um which has a lot to say about consciousness and and attainment

01:05:48.480 with an ability to speak your way out of a jam or out of trouble is

01:05:53.920 no less magical than anything else i think that um we do ourselves a disservice linguistically

01:06:02.880 when we've come to something ceases being magic when you can explain it scientifically and

01:06:11.840 i don't think that's the case you set up a paradigm that's impossible to to meet there

01:06:16.560 magic is ridiculous by virtue of as soon as it becomes not ridiculous then it stops being magic

01:06:23.120 according to the way we linguistically understand it now and i think that's absurd

01:06:29.760 medicine and magic potions are the same thing medicine we just have a fancy latin words to

01:06:36.640 describe why it does what it does herbal remedies and magic potions assuming that they're efficacious

01:06:45.760 are absolutely that and there is a magic to your ability to enchant people with your words

01:06:55.760 and to speak your way out of out of trouble and out of hardship that way

01:07:01.120 and it's also liberating to the soul for you to be able to speak things that are on your mind

01:07:06.560 freely so much of our higher self is imprisoned within us and fettered within us in a way

01:07:15.520 if we don't have the courage and the eloquence to properly speak that um

01:07:23.600 this is a super nerd reference but i'm put it out there anyway

01:07:27.200 oh boy what really sucked watching um old school star trek back in the day was christopher pike

01:07:34.480 in this wheelchair thing with these three little lights that would light up and that's his way of

01:07:38.480 communicating if you have things and and you can think of it that way as somebody who's catatonic 0.96

01:07:45.360 or somebody who is disabled in that way that they can't speak they have all this in their soul and 0.98

01:07:51.120 in their mind that they can't express they can't articulate to someone they care about that they 1.00

01:07:57.600 love them they can't speak an eloquent prayer to our gods they can't

01:08:04.480 speak the most brilliant idea that they have and knowing but not being able to speak is such a

01:08:12.100 I mean we could all feel viscerally how imprisoning that is you being able to speak

01:08:20.460 and is letting that out it literally sets you free in a lot of ways yeah the the reason why we use

01:08:27.320 the word harrow for the table is the harrowing call to call out I know now in modern English it

01:08:33.740 means kind of like a cry, very similar to like Old Norse gyalper, like to cry out. But, you know,

01:08:41.240 it means the place to call from. But I was going to say also about raido. And when you talked about

01:08:47.400 the aero flight and the arcing of it, to be able to grasp it as long as I can see it. This, I think,

01:08:55.860 really does talk about the understanding of being in complete motion and alignment with things

01:09:04.660 even to the point in this case they're talking about the prowess of

01:09:08.660 snatching an arrow out of the air because all i have to do is be able to see it is is this is

01:09:14.580 like the true point of necessity and alignment and correct timing all coalescing in quite a well and

01:09:22.820 so again i want to extend a metaphor on this and

01:09:33.780 i think ecstatic is the closest word in our lexicon to capture it but in a concept that

01:09:42.980 more of you listening and and reading on the side will be familiar with is the idea of zen

01:09:48.180 of warrior zen and just as a side note zen buddhism was taught by a bearded blue-eyed barbarian from

01:09:56.820 the mountains of the steppes just saying the guy who taught it didn't have you know the the eyes

01:10:04.900 going on it was a round eye so that being said that moment of warrior zen that you're familiar

01:10:11.780 with in that concept that's absolutely an area in concept as well that moment where everything works

01:10:18.180 perfectly with the right timing in the right place and you are in the zone people in sports may know

01:10:23.940 that idea of being in the zone when everything works perfectly because everything is aligned

01:10:29.780 and your timing hit just right that you can do things beyond what normally should happen in our

01:10:37.140 common understanding i mean some of us are are very fortunate if that happened once or twice in

01:10:42.500 our life but the idea of that being perfectly you can just imagine this person being able to catch

01:10:48.260 a spear that flows through the host or knock an arrow out of the sky that's coming towards them

01:10:54.500 that level of timing is the mastery of rhido

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01:13:44.680 take us up on that um next question is uh question then could rido be astral travel

01:13:54.520 and and or oh then traveling the worlds for knowledge like a shaman i forget the germanic

01:14:01.160 equivalent i'll let you take that go ahead yeah the wayfaring vitki the wise one uh

01:14:08.440 yeah that's kind of what i was alluding to is that um there is because there's multiple layers

01:14:14.520 of interpretation when we talk about it as perhaps epochs of time or an arcing mythos

01:14:20.520 we're talking about that moment but it has replications like we just brought up with

01:14:24.600 the idea of the circular movement and of of thor lord thor and his ability to keep things within

01:14:31.800 and without uh but also too in relation to the the traversing um that's one this room was one

01:14:39.080 of the runes that kind of really i it i feel enlightened me to understanding that the story of

01:14:46.200 the runes all pertain to sound and all pertain to movement um because this is the rune of movement

01:14:54.520 but yes absolutely i do believe that there is a when we when we speak about making connections

01:15:00.760 with our gods at the harrow and the gothar are calling out they are much like the the sternman

01:15:09.240 of a ship that we are traversing out um into or trying to make connection um yes but if we're

01:15:19.320 talking about like in the vitki form or in the sense that there's you know there is the the gothar

01:15:25.080 are kind of the priestly and we understand we try to build towards folk building the vidki is

01:15:31.480 oftentimes more uh built around it's esoteric as opposed to exoteric orthopraxy and um so this

01:15:40.920 rune has great meditative um understanding especially if you could visualize the rune

01:15:47.240 as a almost like in three dimensions and then seeing the rune rotated around in multiplicity

01:15:56.920 that's an interesting thing i'm kind of going off on that one but um it's it it is a very very

01:16:03.160 interesting rune to conceptualize the idea of at least separating your consciousness from

01:16:11.720 the material of your of your body the idea of being able to um at least separate and a lot of

01:16:19.240 people will say what do you what do you mean by that is when we do that when we create hallowed

01:16:24.040 space when we're not at a hof when we're out we we set those boundaries we separate ourselves from

01:16:29.960 the mundane and then we proceed forward in a sense of traveling so that's the exoteric the esoteric

01:16:36.360 would be to internalize to close one's eyes to to build on the meditative state and to understand

01:16:41.720 that i think that this rune has a deep help for that and also to the the sound itself the trilling

01:16:49.560 or the or the uh the low arcing are um in in use as a as a a meditative mantra or a goal there as

01:17:00.600 we should say um is i think very very important especially when we start getting into the concepts

01:17:07.160 of diaphragm work um and breathing and so like with with the rune ansu's being breath raido

01:17:15.320 again another interpretation is the application of breath the cycle of breath um take that for

01:17:23.400 for what you will and in relation to actually i'll expound on that a little bit more

01:17:28.040 the uh with the next rune as well about breathing and the cycle of breathing that the intake and the

01:17:34.440 the elevation of the consciousness to the cycle of breath and even with kenna's there is the of

01:17:41.160 course the formulation of of um i think in eastern um systems they they refer to it as kind of like

01:17:48.600 the furnishing of breath and heat and um we'll touch on that too but yes

01:17:54.360 this is absolutely

01:17:57.880 can be in correlation to that because it's about

01:18:00.040 what you find, the link, the revealing

01:18:02.140 of yourself

01:18:04.120 the runes are about

01:18:05.680 in many ways

01:18:07.880 it's the microcosmic

01:18:09.520 ecstaticism

01:18:12.380 of Lord Odin

01:18:13.620 in the idea of your searching for

01:18:15.840 understanding of things, finding

01:18:17.580 those connected points

01:18:19.580 yes

01:18:22.020 this rune has

01:18:23.900 absolutely applicable to astral traveling or any other kind of traveling um your

01:18:33.420 point about odin doing these kind of soul traveling experiences again remembering that

01:18:43.140 imagery of man upon horse he does that upon slepner um with his his eight-legged steed

01:18:50.980 That's how he travels through the worlds.

01:18:56.660 The world tree itself is known as Othin Steed.

01:19:01.880 So you're right on with that concept.

01:19:04.780 It absolutely means that, or it certainly can mean that.

01:19:08.840 I've seen many a drum with Raido as imagery, and that's directly in correlation with that.

01:19:15.900 Absolutely.

01:19:18.300 Next question.

01:19:19.320 I think this one's a good question.

01:19:20.540 how important not that other questions aren't but i think this one's a lot of people wonder this

01:19:25.740 how important is pronunciation when chanting the runes what are your thoughts fun uh i kind of hit

01:19:32.540 on it with with uh raii though the idea is like some people can roll their r some people cannot

01:19:37.580 but the understanding of arching the sound with you know the the uh if you were thinking of it

01:19:43.420 is like again the the base of the sound is is the er the er sound and then

01:19:51.900 is kind of like the same arching but with sprockets um pronunciation again we've been very

01:19:58.620 open and honest about this from the beginning and i think it's i think it is kind of when people

01:20:05.260 don't say about for instance the uh raido is a reconstruction of the other futharks that have

01:20:16.060 tangible titlings uh you know the elder futhark was was very minimally uh there's there hasn't

01:20:22.780 been a lot of um archaeological finds of the elder futhark we have far more in the anglo-phrygian

01:20:29.260 which expanded to 32. And then the Old Norse, that one was condensed down to 16. So we have a lot more

01:20:37.580 inscriptions in those two, but we have the rune poems themselves, and they are titled, luckily.

01:20:43.760 And then when we look at Gothic, or Guttanish, I should probably say Guttans, when we look at

01:20:51.200 their language, we look at the, that was in the third century. So you have the, it's based off

01:20:58.920 the greek alphabet but they use the runic names for the alphabet of the of the gutins and that's

01:21:05.720 in the third century by the 10th century it's written down in anglo-saxon and by the 12th

01:21:13.400 century the icelandic ones are written down or the icelandic and and the norse and i'm using

01:21:18.200 very very broad windows here so not specific dates but that's because they're not able to

01:21:24.360 too. Um, and then of course, I mean, we even have the, um, this one is always the one that

01:21:29.960 kind of interests me because of its obscurity is, um, the, uh, I'm going to say it wrong.

01:21:36.940 So that's why I'm looking for it. The, um, uh, the Swiss rune poem that was also found

01:21:45.560 The Abbeccadarium Nordamonicum, which is a very, a truly interesting poem that was found in Central Europe, and it is based off of the 16 rune Futhark of the Old Norse, so most likely it had actually cycled back down into the Central Europe.

01:22:12.400 um so you you have pronunciation and i think when we talk about the symbols and we talk about

01:22:20.240 pronunciation that they're both very fluid they were not per se to our ancestors because we didn't

01:22:27.900 or they didn't have the entirety of knowledge placed before them um like with the internet

01:22:34.540 and things like that so i think they they taught very strictly but we have this um huge amount of

01:22:42.080 knowledge so the emphasis of understanding is more i think about the frequency of sound

01:22:46.800 which is an interesting thing that would take a long time to go into about utilizing the idea of

01:22:52.600 what exactly the the the pitch of the sound is to the rune and it opens up to a lot of debate

01:22:59.680 but um the ultimate idea is that sound and the the overall meaning of the rune is far more

01:23:10.720 important than say the specifics of the symbol and the specific of the of the titled name you

01:23:17.540 know reconstructed names are our names of our generation just like the anglo-saxons had their

01:23:23.720 own and the norse had their own um and i think they have just as much validity but that it's not

01:23:29.900 i gotta say it in old norse or i have to say it in in anglo-saxon because those are reconstructed

01:23:35.300 that means that they're not good because people have a tendency to kind of go back to the older

01:23:42.420 just for the sake of it being the oldest without considering that there are you know validities in

01:23:48.820 the transformations or the knowledge of the rings themselves um and hence why all the

01:23:53.860 futharks do have importance and why the the folk futhark that is that we have uh constructed for

01:24:01.780 um and i say constructed in the sense of like bringing together we only use the runes from

01:24:07.380 all the other futharks and use them to write or to transfer spiritual idioms on on the uh

01:24:15.060 on the murals with the intention of of inspiring people to learn all the futharks um

01:24:21.700 but people get caught up on that oh how dare you guys create your own runic futhark and it's like

01:24:27.460 no they're all the they're all from the other futharks we just have a purpose with them

01:24:32.340 much like why people speculate that the younger futhark was boiled down to 16 and there's other

01:24:38.900 theories especially when we start talking about arthurian legend and perennial mysteries in

01:24:44.180 relation to the grail in relation to the angle of phrygian and their extension into 32 it's a

01:24:51.220 wonderful stuff to speculate about and to really open your mind to and and discuss um but to think

01:24:58.820 that you know the it has to be pronounced only one particular way is certainly i think a path

01:25:05.060 of folly when it should be considered more about the movement more about the the the mouth uh

01:25:13.380 placement and frequency when we're talking about fehu and expansion and it's the pressurized

01:25:18.900 whereas the condensing is opened it's volcular or the vol the vocularity of that sound is very broad

01:25:28.260 and opening and then we start talking about raido and we talk about the trill uh kind of being the

01:25:36.100 the wheel moving or the sprocket moving or perhaps just the the bending arc of the wheel itself

01:25:43.140 um i don't think it's don't get too hard up in the idea that it has to be pronounced

01:25:51.060 specifically i think focus on the sound focus on the mouth uh movement and um and focus on the

01:26:00.180 meanings the overall meanings too not just i'm only going to look at you know especially for

01:26:06.340 the next room because i'm kind of i'm placing you guys here on this one when you look at the

01:26:11.060 meanings of the runes too at first if you just follow one pathway i think you lose the entirety

01:26:18.180 of the knowledge of the rooms and i think that the gods understood that we would reach a point

01:26:23.140 in which we would have a multiplicity because nature works that way and the gods work that way

01:26:28.340 divinity is not singularly boiled down into one thing it's we feel it's necessity to have

01:26:33.540 the one thing and and i think that's uh quite a different a deviation from the way our ancestors

01:26:40.820 all all the gods work in multiplicity and so do the runes so

01:26:53.060 so in in svan has mentioned this typically when we start out with any of these runes but

01:27:01.460 they're reconstructions of what we think they sounded like um as you get further into the you

01:27:09.700 know the anglo-saxon futhark or uh the younger futhark you start getting more uh definitive

01:27:19.940 on what the runes sounded like but as far as esoterics magical work the armin and rune its

01:27:27.220 runes the elder futhark really is the bread and butter of that

01:27:31.940 and we're working from what we think it probably sounded like

01:27:36.820 um i've i've said this a lot and i think to a lot of people whose minds are very

01:27:51.380 black and white on everything it's it's unsettling

01:27:54.900 but so much of the efficacy of what we do or what we don't do is the focusing of our will and of

01:28:02.100 intent. If your runic knowledge is good and you have a very clear idea of what you are trying to

01:28:12.580 do, then I think your pronunciation is secondary to that. I think if you're doing solitary work

01:28:19.700 by yourself, it's fairly irrelevant as long as the sound you are making connects you to the concept

01:28:28.100 you are projecting again the rune is the mystery behind the noise it's not the noise and it's not

01:28:33.940 the sticks um it's the mystery they embody if your noise connects your brain and your heart

01:28:44.740 to that mystery then it probably works pretty good maybe it works even better if you are a

01:28:51.140 perfect linguist and you're doing it absolutely perfectly but i don't think any of us have that

01:28:56.180 assurity that we are um i would say it becomes much more important when you're in a group

01:29:03.700 and i want to speak on group galder there's some people that have free form like everybody's

01:29:09.380 saying a different thing at a different pace and some people are just making the vowel sounds and

01:29:14.820 some people are making the consonant sounds and there's different things depending on what you're

01:29:18.900 trying to achieve that you can do with that. When I do it, the intent is harmony. So I want

01:29:26.100 people to harmonize. And if we've got one person that pronounces it one way, but everybody else

01:29:31.080 pronouncing it a different way, all we hear is that one person messing up the harmony. Don't be

01:29:36.220 that guy. If the idea is to harmonize, then it becomes very important that you harmonize not

01:29:43.480 just the pronunciation, but the pitch and the tonality, the wave that is created, because

01:29:48.280 that's powerful. I think that if you had to prioritize a lot of

01:29:59.980 it is about the vowel noise more than it's about the consonant

01:30:06.460 noise. So if there, you know, when in doubt, or if you know, if

01:30:11.980 you're picking and choosing which to do wrong and which to do

01:30:14.580 right which i know is silly in and of itself focusing on getting the right vowel noise

01:30:22.420 so the r and the th aren't the important part the i sound right

01:30:36.340 the i and the o are really important the others are kind of transitional so

01:30:42.900 really focus on getting that very strong and consistent vowel noise and the rest is a little

01:30:51.540 bit more flexible in my opinion uh uh you just brought it up and it made i wanted to make sure

01:30:59.060 that because we talked about urus as the first vowel of the first actor the second vowel is

01:31:07.060 ansus sorry i as soon as you said it i was like ah there are two vowels per ev every actor and

01:31:16.020 that's why i think what alisari is saying about the emphasis of those runic

01:31:23.060 vowel sounds is because they're there's two in every effort that shows the emphasis of how they

01:31:28.820 carry so when you speak that galder and you are saying uh ra e and then oh at the end

01:31:36.900 those emphasis are carrying in essence the the consonant powers

01:31:43.700 and it's tricky if you're just getting involved in this if you're doing it over time you'll figure

01:31:48.100 out the pronunciation most people want to use there are different variants of a number of these names

01:31:54.900 that have completely different vowel structures and are tricky for you. Don't be dismayed by

01:32:03.160 that. The more you expose yourself to this, the more you will pick up what is more commonly used.

01:32:10.440 And, you know, even if people mix and match what they use it for, typically when there's multiple

01:32:16.740 names, the one name evokes different imagery than the other name does. And that will come into play

01:32:25.840 a little bit more on our next rune. Oh, yes. Our next one, which is a good reminder from

01:32:35.480 our folk builder, Sarah Ault, please let parents know that if they're considering homeschooling

01:32:41.520 and their children are in the age range of K through third, there is still time to enroll

01:32:46.500 in the Astro Academy. That is something we are proud beyond words of. We talked about it last

01:32:57.360 week when we had Gauthier Dean Stam on, who is the Dean of the Astro Academy. He, along with his

01:33:05.900 amazing, amazing volunteers, Sarah's one of them. Rachel Johnson in Washington is another one

01:33:12.320 putting in a huge amount of work and several others it's amazing in our first year we just

01:33:19.360 did kindergarten it was fantastic it helped so many families and so many kids and our team has

01:33:27.280 been so diligent we've made a promise that we're going to stick with those kindergartners and

01:33:31.480 provide them with you know their next grade level all the way through to i think class of 36

01:33:39.060 um which makes me feel very old saying out loud

01:33:44.340 that said that was that was the minimum that we're committed to but in that first year's time

01:33:50.900 we've expanded the curriculum to where this year our second year in we have k through third

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01:34:03.860 um please please please if you are able to if that is a reality for your family and you are

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01:34:25.140 things that i am very thankful for as a father who's going to homeschool his daughter is that

01:34:32.020 the austral academy we hold your hand and i say we collectively our very our amazing volunteers

01:34:38.180 in the austral academy hold your hand through every step of the way to make sure it's compliant

01:34:45.700 in your state or your province or wherever you're at to where it's legally it meets all the checks

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01:35:02.020 parents doing it together that can support you we're truly doing this as a community and as an

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01:35:14.500 go tell your friends if they're interested yes you have to be a member in the afa to use the

01:35:18.740 austro academy but please do it and like i said you know that's awesome we would love to have you

01:35:25.220 do the astro academy would love to have you do it with us but even if you don't if you're not

01:35:30.420 a fan you're doing your own thing you're not for whatever reason if you can homeschool it's a

01:35:37.220 really amazing thing to do i'd love to see you guys do it i hope that you can if you're not able

01:35:43.140 you're you're doing the best you can there's no no no judgment here from it it's just really cool

01:35:48.420 if you are able to and i can't i can't urge that strongly enough for the children i really

01:35:54.260 care about our children's future and i think that's a that's a key to giving them a good head

01:35:58.020 start on it um go ahead i wanted to say one thing not about the um to answer a question that was

01:36:07.380 kind of snuck in but isn't really highlighted is ryan orion was asking about the wheel of thor

01:36:13.060 yes you are correct remember if there is the stasis of the tripartite which is the north star

01:36:19.940 then you the striker is the the revolution of or the rotation of and so those two the

01:36:26.580 catalystic and stasis thrones of stability and rotation are very important and of course then

01:36:33.060 there's the last one the big one is dynamicism the movement between up and down and uh under and

01:36:40.260 everywhere anywhere is dynamicism but in relation to i think a lot of people don't correlate an

01:36:46.260 understanding of the catalystic throne of the striker as his ability of edges rotation and

01:36:53.140 ultimately stability so yes all right so next question from jared williams and

01:37:05.700 i tried to do a quick database search so i could help you a little bit more

01:37:09.140 and i could not find your name in our database so i'm assuming that is a

01:37:13.380 i don't think nom de plume is not the right nom de gear perhaps um either way assume that's not

01:37:23.220 your real name that being said what advice would i give to a member like me who wants to be more

01:37:31.060 involved with their local kindred but has lived a solitary life for years

01:37:35.300 and has been outside of a family-like setting that kindreds have

01:37:38.660 do something instead of doing nothing that's the thing is you can sit in a place of indecision

01:37:49.700 indefinitely and miss all the opportunities um there's no perfect way to do it but start and try

01:38:00.100 and if on the side or whatever you want to send a message

01:38:04.660 um we can try to connect you with who's local to you the reason i was looking you up is because i

01:38:10.660 wanted to see who to direct you to to help you with that um matt flavel at runestone.org if you

01:38:18.700 want to tell me where you're at i can give you some advice on that and send you in the right

01:38:23.560 direction but that's exactly what our gothar and folk builders are here to do is to help you

01:38:28.380 experience the fullness of our faith and that's done in a community

01:38:33.280 um i don't know what specific parameters come with your living your solitary life because it

01:38:47.160 means different things to different people you have some people that are agoraphobic that

01:38:50.620 you know live in an apartment and don't leave you have people that are that socially isolated

01:38:56.920 i have no i that could be you for all i know maybe it's not maybe you're just a guy that

01:39:01.360 lives out in the country and doesn't have a lot of friends you know it's it's a big spectrum but

01:39:06.240 the baby steps of what that looks like are really different depending on the details of that but

01:39:13.280 one way to do stuff that's really easy is to get on me we me we's where all our afa social media

01:39:22.000 goes on and you can make people's acquaintance there before you get to know them in real life

01:39:27.040 if it makes you more comfortable or if that's an easier you know um step towards more interaction

01:39:34.000 with people and i'm really encouraged to do if you do that by all means please friend me i would

01:39:38.640 love to accept your friend request and talk to you um we have a lot of different groups like i

01:39:45.040 mentioned earlier talking about the fasting we have a specific men's group that does that does

01:39:49.280 that we have regional groups we have more topic specific groups so yeah that's a really good way

01:39:55.920 to start if you're willing to do a little bit more than that um depending on where you're at

01:40:03.040 we have hey you know what this is a good time to plug that nick can you throw up the different

01:40:07.920 addresses to our different hoff districts so we've divided midgard into into four chunks that uh

01:40:17.680 roughly um conform to our hoffs now if you live in brazil these chunks are a little bit absurd

01:40:28.960 you're not particularly close to any of these things you are i believe if you're in brazil

01:40:33.760 you're arbitrarily in the njordshoff district but you're nowhere close to florida we get that

01:40:38.720 but as we get more and more hoffs it will be more and more relevant to people that are further

01:40:43.280 spread apart these districts are fairly relevant if you're in the united states

01:40:49.120 um or depending on where you are in canada on where we would direct you but um either of these

01:40:57.920 these four hoff districts has a website and on the website it's got a calendar of events and

01:41:03.040 it shows where all these different events are you can drive and attend these events if you want to

01:41:09.680 there may be one really really close to you it may be a little bit more of a distance it's hard

01:41:14.000 to tell without knowing the specifics but going out to one of them a lot of them are

01:41:19.760 there's some that are in people's homes and that can be really nice and a really intimate setting

01:41:24.560 where you can get to know people very well but it also may be intimidating if you're not

01:41:30.320 ready for that socially but a lot of them are at public places at a bar at a restaurant you

01:41:35.680 can go and have a drink and then leave if you need to you can go say hi uh hey i've got other errands

01:41:42.720 i just wanted to say hi cool that's something that counts puts you closer than you are today

01:41:47.200 and again jared this isn't just aimed at you it's anybody in our audience that might have

01:41:51.440 this question you may or may not have that difficult for time socially but some people do

01:41:57.120 especially with all of the people that

01:41:59.040 that we're very, very isolated due to the COVID lockdowns, due to whatever in the world that we

01:42:08.320 live in. A lot of people have problems socially that way. But no, there's, we've got hundreds

01:42:16.840 and hundreds of members that would love to be your friend and meet you, and you can be exactly

01:42:22.680 as involved as you would like to be. If you want to become a folk builder, if you want to become

01:42:27.660 a go-fi if you want to eventually make it on the wit and these are all open to you if you want to

01:42:32.060 be the all's harrier go-fi then maybe we got a fight i don't know but you we want you to be as

01:42:37.580 involved or as not involved and if you just want to sit back at your house that's okay too but if

01:42:43.260 you want to get involved we have people that literally that's what makes them happy is helping

01:42:50.060 you be more involved so we would love to connect you that way please do reach out to me or any of

01:42:55.260 our folk builders in gothar you can find the contact information at runestone.org

01:43:00.860 but yeah i hope that was helpful and i hope we see you being exactly as involved as you would

01:43:06.620 like to be one other thing too i would like to point out is if you can't find a folk builder or

01:43:13.020 gothar to come to you or a temple that you can go to or a kindred that you can go to

01:43:18.860 if you're that far into the isolation perhaps maybe like my homesteading or something like that

01:43:24.860 reach out to your gothar ask about personal devotions at home and then get your family

01:43:30.700 involved get your children involved uh get your neighbor involved if you know they're folk and

01:43:35.340 they're they want to reconnect you can start by also building for yourself around you and and and

01:43:43.340 then you know perhaps something from that grows plant the flag if you will a lot of a lot of times

01:43:50.060 kindred start that way so again this this is not specifically to the guy asking the question this

01:43:55.500 is everybody out there who might have similar questions every single area that there are

01:44:00.780 groups of afa members started with one guy that was by himself that got together with another guy

01:44:08.300 or gal and made something happen that is the root of every one of these things

01:44:15.100 I wish we were at a level to where we could pay missionaries to go out and develop these

01:44:20.060 different areas, but that's not our reality right now. I wish I was magically potent enough that I

01:44:27.080 could cast a spell from Reno, Nevada and make stuff happen certain places. As of yet, I lack

01:44:33.760 that ability, but what each of these places is built on is individuals that started out as just

01:44:40.540 somebody who put in a member application that stepped up and said hey i want a folk build

01:44:47.500 and that through doing that built a community around themselves and in their area and a lot

01:44:52.380 of those communities live on long after that person may have moved and gone and done something

01:44:56.460 different um so each of you you know you guys are empowered to go out and

01:45:03.500 start building and you've got a whole team of people here who want to help you do that

01:45:07.420 um our next question i wanted to ask about the no race mixing rule would people who used to

01:45:17.020 be in an interracial relationship but are not anymore and would not again if they had no

01:45:22.860 children from it be allowed to join absolutely people make mistakes people you know there's

01:45:31.020 i have not always been also true but i've been

01:45:36.540 squared away on that particular issue for you know most of my most of my life a lot of people

01:45:44.340 haven't um a lot of people have walked a lot of different roads to get where where they are

01:45:49.540 you can't change your past you can just change your future um

01:45:54.100 um the issue with the offspring isn't that it's the unforgivable sin it's that

01:46:01.000 that's libel's to spill over into our group by those people being around and to confuse and

01:46:10.840 stymie the group dynamic of things that we're doing and that's why that's the way it is 0.69

01:46:18.700 If you don't have a non-white significant other or non-white children to bring around, then, of course, we'd love to have you in the Ask True Folk Assembly. 0.99

01:46:29.600 We all we all hopefully learn and grow as as we develop as people.

01:46:38.320 And a lot of us come from a lot of different places. So I'm really glad you asked the question.

01:46:42.880 It's a good question. But, yeah, if that's your situation, of course, you'd be welcome to join.

01:46:48.700 and our next one and her next one gets me geeking out on the stuff that i like to spend

01:46:55.500 probably more time than i should on uh no how small will thorshoff district be

01:47:02.600 once tiershoff and phrasehoff are built it's a fine question let me pull up a member map here

01:47:08.800 that i harass all of our folk builders on using we've got this uh google map behind the scenes

01:47:14.620 we use to plot where our members are and it's coolest thing and i spend all this time on it

01:47:19.420 every month and it's color coded and i nerd out about it and so i try to force all of our folk

01:47:26.620 builders to look at it all the time in the hopes that they will be as excited about it as i am

01:47:32.460 um when i became the folk builder coordinator many many years ago that was the first thing i did as

01:47:38.860 i ran out and i i got this huge map of the united states and i got all these little push pins and

01:47:44.140 And I started pushing pins in for each of our, you know, hundreds of members.

01:47:48.360 I think at that time we were about like 450 members then.

01:47:58.660 A lot more than that now, but it's still a lot of push pins put in.

01:48:03.780 This is a little bit cooler and I'm happy that the fine people or not so fine people at Google have created this map for me to use.

01:48:12.160 so that said it's that's really interesting question so this is not gospel this is just what

01:48:20.340 we're thinking about so far phrase hoff will likely cut off everything in the current force

01:48:33.040 hoff district these states i'm about to mention and north so phrase hoff will take likely

01:48:46.640 indiana ohio west virginia

01:48:52.000 pennsylvania

01:48:55.280 new york new jersey and everything north of it as well as

01:49:03.920 hmm so here's the question is what we do in yeah so this will take that and potato europe um

01:49:18.480 that would leave tomato europe and it was coming delaware will uh maryland

01:49:27.440 dc virginia north carolina south carolina tennessee and kentucky in thorshoff but then

01:49:39.360 when we throw tiershoff in the mix tiershoff's probably only going to take tennessee and

01:49:47.440 kentucky from what is now thorshoff but it will also steal a few states from baldershoff

01:49:57.440 and from yords off i think it will probably take missouri arkansas and oklahoma as well

01:50:07.200 but we'll see as we get closer um a lot of them have to do with flat geography

01:50:13.440 but then also they have to do with drive times and mountain ranges and stuff on who can get to

01:50:18.880 what that's one of the reasons that maryland and delaware have proven to be more likely to attend

01:50:25.280 thorshoff than to a future phrasehoff but those are that's just what we're thinking right now

01:50:32.880 that's not uh it's not a hard and fast rule but that's what we're currently thinking

01:50:41.200 and that is our last question on that one it's time to go to room number three uh swan can you

01:50:48.320 tell the folks about kenaz yes kenaz kenaz however again pronunciation um this this rune

01:50:59.680 is probably the first rune that really throws people for a loop um so the the most common used

01:51:09.760 name is kenaz kenaz is an interesting rune because there's a such a an instant divide

01:51:17.760 when we talk about the rune poems but let's just step away from that stay in the middle

01:51:22.720 and understand that this rune is about formulation and dissipation so when we were talking about

01:51:29.680 movement we were talking about expansion condensement we were talking about piercing

01:51:37.440 or penetration or the the destruction of the lifting up with ansus and then you know the

01:51:45.600 circular movement and rotation and alignment of all things this rune becomes an encapsulation rune

01:51:52.880 of dissipation and formulation it is a condensed rune a tight rune and so this rune has

01:52:02.400 lots of connotations to the idea of heat in relation to bringing material together

01:52:08.480 or breaking material apart and that i think is the most important thing for you to

01:52:15.120 understand before you start looking into the meanings in the rune poems because it will

01:52:19.600 greatly help you understand um why there there is a confusion is because again formulation and

01:52:28.480 dissipation illumination versus i i would say relief from darkness is is a is a great way to

01:52:39.200 to look at this rune um generally when you look at a book any book uh the first thing that's going

01:52:45.440 to come up is about illumination and light as a lot of times this rune is associated with the

01:52:51.920 torch this comes from the anglo-saxon footwork in which it's called ken or kin and it is it

01:53:00.160 It is referenced to a torchlight that hangs in the halls or a lamplight.

01:53:09.040 However, one of the interesting things is when you look at the Nordic rune poems and the Gothic alphabet, those two correlate to each other.

01:53:20.000 And the Anglo-Frygian meaning is kind of the odd one out.

01:53:26.260 So in the Gothic alphabet, this is called Kusma.

01:53:30.160 Kusma means a boil or a mound of, like, infection.

01:53:36.800 And so the reference to the word of boil is oftentimes used.

01:53:42.260 What I think is really important to understand is it is a rune of health in the sense that we're talking about temperature and the heat of things.

01:53:53.600 And I think it's really also important that people realize when we talk about the light, there is the light, the forge or the heat of the forge and of the the the sickness of the skin or the flesh as being the forge of the body is the way that our our ancestors understood illness in relation to like infections and bites and wounds.

01:54:23.600 of that nature is that infection was part of a purging uh especially in relation to the heat

01:54:29.520 and the temperature was a purging of the flesh or a a shunning off of the of the uh infection

01:54:37.520 so in a way i have always equated this to the spark within the forge and that the forge is kind

01:54:45.200 of the in the uh the mound or the the heated concentric area that boils things down or or

01:54:54.880 makes things so hot that they can be melded together when we talk about divination with

01:54:59.760 this room this room is often associated with the illumination of creative thought and creation of

01:55:05.680 things so again formulation the idea that it's a formulation of thoughts it's a formulation of

01:55:12.240 deeds oftentimes this is called the craft the craft room um in the sense that uh when we talk

01:55:19.920 about the anglo-saxon word of like craft um people would automatically know if i said which craft but

01:55:26.800 craft is is the the the overall knowledge and application of an idea so if we're talking about

01:55:35.600 you know brew craft or you know of being able to brew alcohol or um trade craft or uh whatever

01:55:46.080 type of craft you're into this that understanding of the word is about the total knowledge and

01:55:53.200 application thereof so you know this is oftentimes associated with the trades room

01:55:59.360 now in relation to the story arc that we were talking about the mythos arc of the runes

01:56:04.640 i think it would be worth noting at this point when we move again i'll re-emphasize going back

01:56:09.840 so i'm going to be beating that drum throughout this entire futhark is you have expansive you

01:56:15.920 have condensement you have the the penetration or the piercing of then you have the elevation

01:56:23.840 and the rise and the descendment down of knowledge you have the rotational um correlation of

01:56:30.640 everything coming together and now you have the internalized and this is kind of in relation to

01:56:36.320 when the gods ascend into heaven and they they they rise up when the strata of the universe

01:56:45.280 is made and the gods take up their upper place um and in that upper place they

01:56:52.800 They create Ausgarder. They create the area in which they will encapsulate themselves. There is much there, and it has been brought up and bore up and beset down as the place in which the gods are now above and disseminating time from.

01:57:15.820 And in that time, when they do this, they go to the field of work or the field of craft, and there is Iðavól. And in Iðavól, they create the encapsulation of Ausgarder in heaven, in Himenia.

01:57:30.860 And, of course, our stories talk about the process of building the wall and how the wall is destroyed as the forces of natural law, the Vanir, face off.

01:57:45.880 Again, this is another alignment part of Raido, is that cosmic order, the gods of the upper and the above, meet the gods of the cycle, and when they do, there is a great conjoining of those.

01:58:08.160 Right before this, though, there's this golden age that is referred to, the age in which the gods take up their spot when they build their forges and create their weapons and tongs to work in Ithaval.

01:58:25.160 ethival and it's worth noting that either of all is the plane of work or the valley of work

01:58:31.080 and so this rune i've always taken in that mythos arc is that this is the point in which

01:58:38.040 the gods have risen up into heaven or hymenia um and all of the the universe is beset upon

01:58:46.120 itself an organization but now they begin to internalize the structure that becomes as we

01:58:55.320 know them as the the esir so it's referred to you know in in the um in the guild forgetting is the

01:59:03.640 the time in which they take up the tongs and they light the forges and they begin to create

01:59:10.520 in heaven. And so this rune is about the internalization. And I've always taken it

01:59:19.060 in relation to creation and the time to return to the drawing board or the time to kind of

01:59:26.060 grind away at what you're trying to do mentally and then bring that about into mastery of the

01:59:33.500 way that you are apple applicating your your ideas so this rune is um you know it's it's an

01:59:41.900 inward rune and an outward rune so there's it's it's drawing back in and then it's projecting out

01:59:49.420 it's about lighting that forge fire about the bellows and pressing those sometimes people um

01:59:56.060 take the uh symbology of of the um rune to mean the the mound or the bump of flesh the hot infection

02:00:06.300 some people take it as the bellows uh in the anglo-saxon the the symbol is a straight um

02:00:12.620 vertical line with either a uh an arm going up into the uh excuse me into like the one

02:00:19.980 o'clock position or down into like the four o'clock position uh again both representing

02:00:25.260 either a torch coming out of a wall or a torch being held up from the ground because a lot of

02:00:30.780 people didn't realize like feasting torches were oftentimes like six feet tall because they needed

02:00:36.180 to burn for hours and hours and hours um so the symbology of the rune oftentimes meets certain

02:00:45.160 things or again the bellows the idea of the pressing or the edge sometimes i i i believe

02:00:52.080 a lot in the there is a theory too that there might be an origin of the word with keen the

02:00:58.760 idea of keen sharpening because again that involves heat and and again creating a focused

02:01:05.220 edge it is for any knife makers out there know you know when you set that line on that edge

02:01:11.840 blade and then you're working to hone and hone and burr and then flip and and hone and hone and

02:01:17.360 own and align that into a tight, focused point of purpose. Kenaz is that rune. Kenaz is that rune

02:01:25.800 of formulation. It's the rune that starts off small and then becomes extremely focused in its

02:01:33.420 movement. And again, that's that relation to the gods when they attain the upper and the place

02:01:42.760 away from time that the nether the nether velor and also uh helgard which is you know

02:01:49.180 connected to nivelheim and lower the the worlds are organized and the gods take to heaven

02:01:59.200 and they apply themselves they see the well they see the tree they find either valor then they 0.92

02:02:06.160 start to build and that is when the vanir come and the war is there and then they have to rebuild

02:02:13.840 the wall and slepner is created from that situation as they run out into the heavenly 0.90

02:02:20.300 surroundings um so there's a lot of this this kind of time frame in which there is a build up

02:02:27.220 and i think a lot of people can recognize the power of this room when they undertake maybe

02:02:32.100 perhaps a new career or they undertake an idea of that first step i've been solitary my whole life

02:02:39.460 and i want to step out and start applying my knowledge or or intent into manifesting deeds

02:02:48.420 and actual weird it is the the the rune of pre-planning weird if you will or pre-planning or law

02:02:57.620 so thank you for that it's fun i appreciate it i always knew i can count on spawn something for a

02:03:07.460 little bit aubrey came in it was bedtime she she's in this phase now where mandy and i both have to

02:03:14.200 put her to bed and she's got this book called counting kisses and the idea is it's 10 little

02:03:24.840 kisses on teeny tiny toes and nine kisses on the wiggly something feet and eight kisses on the

02:03:35.420 chubby yummy knees and so on and so forth anyways luckily for me got it figured out so i was able

02:03:43.360 to do it quick uh i hope she's not resentful i said hey can i do it real quick if i can do it 0.59

02:03:48.640 quick i can do it so i did it pretty quick the other thing is she needs me to lift her up as

02:03:52.900 high as I can in the air between each of these numbers. So it's like a workout too. And she 0.93

02:03:57.300 doesn't know if I did shoulder day or not. So she's, she's getting big, but no, I appreciate

02:04:05.140 that. That's a special time with her for a couple minutes each night. So I don't know all of the

02:04:13.180 things Svon said, and I don't want to contradict on it, but if I do, that means he's got to go

02:04:18.720 back to go back to training um no in all seriousness though the there's always the

02:04:26.000 juxtaposition in a way between the idea of the torch and the festering sore um

02:04:38.160 so

02:04:41.680 so that i can uh in the spirit of multiculturalism um we had to read a book in school called

02:04:48.720 Raisin in the Sun. It talks about what happens to a dream deferred. And there's this whole

02:04:55.040 chocolatey poem about it drying up and festering and whatever. One of the things that I like to

02:05:02.500 look on this murk and bright side is the idea of inspiration leading you forward. And much like I

02:05:08.680 mentioned on the idea of words, when your thoughts are trapped within you and you can't expel them,

02:05:15.780 the agony that that is. When you have inspiration in a similar way that you don't

02:05:24.560 act upon, when you have a dream that you don't reach for, it has a way of literally burning you

02:05:31.900 up inside. The key that binds both of the meanings of this rune are that ignition.

02:05:37.600 And if you have, you know, literally what political candidates call the fire in the belly, if you have that and you sit on your couch and you do nothing with it, the pain of regret looking back on it after the moments passed and that you never did anything with it, literally burn you up from the inside out.

02:06:03.940 um being inspired and not doing anything with it is absolutely a malignancy a festering a cancer

02:06:14.060 they used to call cancer consumption again this idea of burning and eating up through flame

02:06:20.660 um but when i see this rune again i've told you this i've never been a big

02:06:29.500 i don't really i don't even know what the right word is because i think fan is is a ludicrous

02:06:34.880 way to present it mercstav runes have never been a big thing to me the negative of runes has never

02:06:43.520 been something that has been particularly meaningful to me personally i've always

02:06:49.900 hyper focused on the positive side of them or the liostav liostaver perhaps i don't know

02:06:58.320 we're playing with our uh our old norse um but yeah the idea of that torch that lights

02:07:08.160 the way going forward somebody in the comments um post uh posted something about how how lucifer

02:07:17.120 his name means the the light bringer um i don't think that our our mythos doesn't need to borrow

02:07:26.240 from from hebrew mythos but as a cultural touchstone the idea of someone bringing

02:07:32.160 bringing forth light um i think this links it to our first room we had today with ansus

02:07:41.760 with with you know the gods enlightening us with the runes

02:07:45.840 that's what enlightenment of things means lighting the way moving forward um

02:07:51.200 one thing that is kind of a concept that they work that we work with in the AFA with our young

02:07:57.820 people and as we get better connected socially and more integrated with our children the idea of

02:08:06.480 our young ladies being mead bearers and our young men being torch bearers the idea that they hold

02:08:13.700 the torch guiding us into the future is a really important symbol to us of that progressing forward

02:08:21.300 into what we will do. Each of these runes, and we've been a little bit negligent so far in not

02:08:26.980 mentioning this, the first, these first runes are sigils for each of our Hoffs as part of our Hoff

02:08:38.380 naming structure. So Fehu is the rune that symbolizes Odin's Hoth. Again, it's not

02:08:45.580 particularly more significant to Odin than, you know, other runes, but the idea of that

02:08:53.400 in our Hoth structure is. Thor's Hoth has Urus. Baldur's Hoth has Thurisaz. Njord's Hoth has Ansus.

02:09:08.380 um phrasehoff will have um rhido and and kenaz will be the rune of tearshoff and it was really

02:09:19.660 meaningful when i drew that as the last route i drew when i did the sword naming uh last month

02:09:25.500 because that's the symbol or the sigil that will guide us forward through uh you know that torch

02:09:33.100 of inspiration for our future kinas has always meant like literally torch but it's always meant

02:09:43.100 the idea of that fire of inspiration to me and i think that's really potent in how i use it

02:09:50.860 internally and externally for for my practice is the idea of of that fire of inspiration of doing

02:09:58.380 of achieving it burns you up it's one of the reasons victory never sleeps because if it does

02:10:02.060 it'll burn you up i think it's something that i internalize and i take really personally because

02:10:08.300 one of the things personally that i battle with is just i have this burning desire

02:10:17.260 inside of me to accomplish these things and to do these things and

02:10:25.900 and i think some of us you know i've felt this amongst the folk in a number of ways i felt it

02:10:31.500 certainly amongst the folk politically there's a lot of things we see in the world that we

02:10:36.380 want to change that we want to fix that we want to do something about and if you don't see a path

02:10:44.300 forward to releasing that and and accomplishing that dream it burns you up and so i drive myself

02:10:54.140 and those around me crazy with my just fire to get that out and to get that inspiration out and

02:11:02.700 accomplished and into the world and doing things so uh victory never sleeps and your all's harry

02:11:08.620 dothi sleeps less than he would like to because he's up stewing on things like that and uh plotting

02:11:16.460 and scheming and planning and trying to find ways to make some of these things happen but it's been

02:11:21.340 really inspirational room to me personally um nick can you throw up the uh old english room for this

02:11:31.180 um torch is known to every living man by its pale bright flame it always burns where princes sit

02:11:41.740 within so my advice is read this one and disregard the other room poems because they're nonsense

02:11:51.340 um no but this one speaks to me a lot this one again with the idea of knights sitting

02:12:03.120 in the halls and feasting and being inspired with all the great things that they're going to go do

02:12:10.980 um and its warmth and its benefit to mankind the other the other two speak less favorably of this

02:12:17.960 room so let's let's go ahead with our next one if you would sore is the bale of children

02:12:26.920 and a scourge and the house of rotten flesh

02:12:33.240 and i kind of i kind of leaned in on this while you were um about the idea of formulation uh

02:12:40.840 the condensed or not condensement because i've used that word but more like formulation versus

02:12:45.240 uh pos like the dissemination or the the fragmentation of things components being

02:12:52.680 broken apart by heat and by uh by toil or test in order for them to heal in in a sense like

02:13:01.480 the temperature of the body creates the furnace that burns off the infection if you will

02:13:08.680 and it's it's worth noting that when they're referring to sore as the bale of children

02:13:12.840 they're talking about most likely the uh you know of of plague really the idea or or the illness

02:13:21.960 of uh towards children in the sense that they um they suffer often they can't fight through

02:13:27.780 the illness like adults can

02:13:30.020 all right um can you throw the the third one on here for us

02:13:37.960 again I did small in my eyes I'm old sore is a curse of children sorrow makes men pale

02:13:49.480 again grim tidings yes and even with the goths there the word is kusma and kusma means like a

02:13:57.760 wound um and so this is a another thing that that again I was going to mention and I'm sure that

02:14:06.220 fawn went over but the idea that this rune has a bunch of names it's got keen as a count is very

02:14:14.300 common a bunch of different versions of it and looking at it and i pulled this up a second ago

02:14:23.900 so count tends to mean ulcer whereas kinas as a root word means torch a lot of these as

02:14:38.000 you know linguistic devices are confusing that way now I haven't seen this rune used that way

02:14:48.800 by modern practitioners in the sense that when they mean

02:14:53.240 cancer or festering boils, they say cow, and when they mean torch, they say kinez.

02:15:00.460 I have seen that with different runes like Elhazen and Algiz, but on this one, I haven't

02:15:08.480 seen it used that way, but it is meaningful that the different theories on the rune name

02:15:14.000 relate to those different linguistic derivations of the same of the same kind of roots so i think

02:15:24.160 that's that's worth noting and in the uh the rune at all this would relate to a sixth i know when

02:15:33.920 some fane would harm me in ruins on a moist tree's root when his head alone shall light the ills

02:15:41.920 the curse that he called upon mine i think this one is very interesting and one that

02:15:53.680 i don't feel that i have satisfactory plumbed the depths of um

02:16:01.440 the idea of of this rune um i guess reversing polarity of of magic spells

02:16:09.600 um I think that's a really interesting concept to think on and I think it requires

02:16:19.920 more mental work than some of the ones that are more obvious and more more straightforward do

02:16:25.860 you have any thoughts on this as relates to that uh that runatal stanza well yeah and when I made

02:16:32.040 mention of the formulation of the blade or the return uh the blade in in the use as a weapon

02:16:37.200 but also the blade and usage of the actual carving of a stavar the idea is that you could

02:16:42.960 use the blade to cut the flesh or wound the flesh or you could use the blade to cut the tree and send

02:16:49.040 back uh that which was sent to you um but i think it's it also kind of again relates to

02:16:58.480 heat between or heat that formulates and the idea is is creating the heat that dissipates as well

02:17:06.320 oftentimes um you know the the wound that is made is the wound that festers and the only way to

02:17:12.460 fester is to purge the wound is kind of the the process of thought in that one

02:17:17.740 often you know magically if you're talking about again returning the the the ill for

02:17:25.500 ill that was brought upon you. All right. So let's get into our

02:17:35.020 current questions we've got stacked. So far, as far as I can tell, we got nothing on entropy.

02:17:44.860 I think entropy is one of our most least used platforms, and that's unfortunate,

02:17:49.260 but I can understand that a little bit. But I always want to check over there to make sure

02:17:54.240 we're not leaving anybody hanging if they're going over there to donate or anything our next

02:17:58.960 question is from monks fun is there a danger of bad spiritual things that can happen to your body

02:18:04.980 if you are uh astral projecting where your soul leaves the bodies and who would you

02:18:13.000 who would you protect your body if your soul is like yeah what who would protect your body if

02:18:21.600 soul is gone yes there is a lot of danger when you step outside of i what we would call the you

02:18:30.800 know just time and go into mythic time as al sergo they has mentioned before when we talk about mythic

02:18:36.800 time we don't talk about it as something that's written in a book we talk about it as it's

02:18:41.360 happening right now there's mythic time time or physical time or or the time of weird and then

02:18:48.240 there's the dissipation of time which is in the the world below and or or disconnection from that

02:18:54.880 time if you will um and when you step outside of the understanding of the parameters of

02:19:04.400 the midgard time or time of weird yeah you are open to i i feel is just as much the same influence

02:19:12.480 is the possibility of you leaving your house and getting hit by a car or uh you know things

02:19:18.560 of that i know i i don't want to i don't want to paint it as if you do this there's going to be

02:19:24.160 stuff just waiting to spiritually mug you as soon as you walk out of your body um there are

02:19:32.160 the protective measures utilized is a combination of things there is physical protection in the

02:19:39.520 sense of like perhaps uh carving or creating a bind rune or rune that helps in that sense of

02:19:47.680 protection there is the discipline of the of the mind the ability to realize that too far is too

02:19:56.080 far and then to to return um so there's discipline of and and self-awareness of the of the mind

02:20:03.840 the spiritual of course again is that you have the gods with you if you are true to the to the

02:20:08.880 gods and you carry them with you just as if you were to step outside of your house it's not that

02:20:14.480 we don't expect the gods to make us invulnerable but what they do is they arm us with wisdom

02:20:19.920 heroism and the intent of being better and stronger or wiser and so that is the first

02:20:27.680 ignition to protection is is starting with that foundation spiritually as well so there are lots

02:20:35.360 of traditions that i have you know uh studied and heard and even practiced um some people talk about

02:20:42.720 the idea that like going forth or faring forth um hazel rods traditionally hazel is a is a wood of

02:20:49.440 protection um the idea of anointment of red ochre in in or on the body as a form of protection when

02:20:58.800 you step outside of midgar there's sense of time um there are a lot of things talismanic in the

02:21:07.360 sense of like making uh stavar with the runes of protection to be carried when you fare forth um

02:21:17.120 i have always recommended that if you ever do anything try to do it with others because there

02:21:23.280 are certain things that when you're involving in in meditative practices and travel it's not

02:21:30.400 often good to do it by yourself i think that's the reason why utsitya and sitting out alone

02:21:35.920 was such a kind of like oh uh you know interesting point is that you're going off into this kind of

02:21:43.280 danger alone a lot of times i think working or at least having someone who's aware that you

02:21:47.760 are working or perhaps helping um you know again it's it's very much akin to having a the drummer

02:21:54.400 while everyone else is performing the travel or the meditative experience and and and what have

02:22:00.560 you that person is there to make sure that you are within the realm of not stepping off too far

02:22:12.240 and this happens with many things if we talk about expansive understandings perhaps through

02:22:17.760 uh people have talked about you know mead and the inspiration of mead and getting too

02:22:22.240 too drunk getting too deep in the horns at a certain point you're elevated and ecstatic and

02:22:26.960 you're speaking of poetry and you're you're you know washing everyone around you with 1.00

02:22:32.080 knowledge and wisdom and and emotion but that's very close to being a blubbering idiot that's 0.99

02:22:38.320 standing around and you need to be it's good to have someone with you as well to tell you 0.99

02:22:46.000 now is the time to stop now that's time to rein it back in um and so again that takes a lot of

02:22:51.680 practice if you're not if you don't have someone outside of yourself if you're doing it only with

02:22:55.200 yourself then the idea is small steps and always err on the side of containment and discipline

02:23:02.240 so so i i guess two things i want to say on this um and i realize this question was directed at

02:23:13.120 fun but i'm gonna take liberties i'm gonna answer some stuff too um

02:23:22.320 you see this in our lore and you see it passed down in horror and fantasy and other genres

02:23:32.800 the idea that you go during the daytime and kill a vampire when it's sleeping

02:23:37.760 in its coffin or that you go and you can kill a wizard if he's you know got this super powerful 0.99

02:23:44.960 astral body thing the way you do it is you find where his body is and you go kill the 0.99

02:23:50.720 old decrepit body the idea of doing something to the vitki or the wizard while they're out of their 0.99

02:23:59.440 body doing whatever their mischief is that they're doing is ingrained in us as a thing 0.96

02:24:06.160 for a reason for a good reason um that's something to consider so that is a vulnerability if you're

02:24:13.840 you know if you're so awesome of a wizard that your version of astral projecting is you are

02:24:20.400 sending out your dragon body to go like destroy villages and such then yeah you need to fear

02:24:27.680 the hero coming into your cave or your wizard tower and stabbing you while you're doing that 0.91

02:24:35.440 and if that sounds ridiculous that's because it probably is for most of us i think realistically

02:24:42.640 one thing and this isn't month i promise this is not aimed at you this is at people in general

02:24:48.080 because i've heard this a lot this isn't about you at all this about uh this process

02:24:56.240 we

02:24:56.480 we only tend to conceptualize courage in the physical state and we don't apply it to other

02:25:09.200 states of being as well and i think this goes back to the approach that i try to push so very heavily

02:25:17.600 on this program with the basis of our interacting with the other should be based on our experiences

02:25:28.320 that we know in the physical the relationships we build with our gods obviously they're different

02:25:34.400 than relationships you built with people but that's where you start to understand

02:25:41.360 they're much much more than that but they're at least that right you don't start completely

02:25:46.960 unfamiliar you have well this is how i treat my father this is how i treat a king or this

02:25:53.200 is how i would treat a great hero or somebody that i super respect then i'll go even further

02:25:59.280 for the gods um people who are hyper courageous in real life and will go up to the biggest dude

02:26:12.640 that challenges them and look them dead in the eye and you know they're ready to go

02:26:18.560 are often the same people that when it comes to doing something spiritual are worried about

02:26:23.520 protection spells and circles of protection and talismans and this and that

02:26:35.200 i get it and i think i'd be irresponsible if i said that these things didn't present a danger

02:26:40.480 but much like swan said you put yourself in danger every time you start your car

02:26:46.800 you know you have a statistical risk that's much more than zero when you drive up to the store and

02:26:52.400 get groceries but it doesn't stop you when it comes to big things in your life that are important to

02:26:59.040 you you want to achieve you're certainly willing to entertain much greater risk but the idea of

02:27:06.080 any kind of astral fairing or spiritual journey or perhaps encounter with ghosts or bad spirits or 0.83

02:27:17.840 you know malignant whites or anything and all of a sudden we gotta throw salt over our shoulders and 0.76

02:27:26.400 you know turn around three times and do a chant and have a protection and 0.66

02:27:31.920 And at some point, I think the same benefit applies metaphysically that applies physically.

02:27:41.900 You can get by with a lot of confidence.

02:27:44.520 If you just spread up, you look like you know your stuff.

02:27:47.120 You're like, hey, what's up, ghosts?

02:27:48.920 I'm here.

02:27:49.380 Where you at?

02:27:51.800 I think that diffuses a lot of those things.

02:27:55.900 Certainly be aware of yourself just like you would in a physical situation.

02:27:59.560 as a man you size up other men that you deal with in this situation what do i do i act according to

02:28:08.040 you know for lack of a better term but sniffing of the guy across the thing like does this guy

02:28:14.360 smell like he's you know gonna whoop me or do i think i've got what it takes to you know

02:28:20.600 take liberties or whatever i'm gonna do spiritually i think that's the case too no i don't think you

02:28:26.840 you provoke cert or something, because I think cert is orders of magnitude more potent than you

02:28:33.000 are. But as far as, no, I'm going to sit here and I'm going to meditate. I'm going to let my soul

02:28:39.520 leave my body and commune with the gods or the ancestors. I don't think you should be afraid of

02:28:46.880 bad things happening to you. I think you should be bold and courageous and you should fare forth

02:28:53.760 regardless and have courage and have, yeah, have the same courage you'd have in your life.

02:29:02.800 And, and it's, this is a way that almost nobody thinks. So again, this isn't aimed at the guy

02:29:09.180 asking the question. This is just something for us to consider spiritually, because I know a lot

02:29:13.420 of people are very concerned with layers of protection when they do rituals, even when they

02:29:20.460 rituals to the gods this is kind of my attitude when i know a lot of people spend a lot of time

02:29:24.940 with hammer hallowings and various other protection calling on the gods to protect them

02:29:35.500 there is a time and a place for that certainly i don't always feel the need to do that um

02:29:42.460 you know i'm not and i don't i don't say this to be arrogant or reckless i don't mean it that way

02:29:49.100 but i have to have a certain amount of confidence in my own spiritual gravitas that i'm not afraid

02:29:55.340 of random land whites somewhere you know the great demons and yotans and goblins of our you

02:30:03.020 know on a cosmic order certainly those are terrifying but you know the spirits that occupy

02:30:11.180 a park i want to do bloat in are they better than me if they're more spiritually powerful me than me

02:30:17.740 and I'm the high priest of the Ausatru Folk Assembly,

02:30:21.860 then I need to go back to the spiritual gym and train up 0.94

02:30:25.960 if, you know, the random ghosts of, you know,

02:30:29.180 Billy Bob's Park on Fifth Street are more spiritually effective than I am.

02:30:34.820 That's, I should take a different lesson from that

02:30:39.240 than I need to use protection spells.

02:30:41.060 um and i don't again i don't mean to come off arrogant and i don't mean any of this to

02:30:49.160 not say that there are dangers that you face there are but approaching those things with courage

02:30:54.840 is really important it's one of our values we should exercise it we should exercise it here

02:31:01.960 we should exercise it there we should exercise it everywhere um being courageous is is is a virtue

02:31:08.160 And so many people allow. So this is a thing, too. There's a difference between being respectful and being fearful.

02:31:21.920 You should always be respectful and mindful. But you should stop short of being fearful unless you have a genuine cause for fear.

02:31:31.640 so many people allow fear to prevent them from ever trying to

02:31:38.000 go beyond and be more than they are in a spiritual in always physical we see it every day

02:31:46.240 but specifically in the question that you asked in a in a spiritual way they're fearful so they

02:31:52.180 don't try to breach that that void they don't try to reach beyond the veil they don't try to reach

02:31:59.900 up and see what they can do because they're fearful that something will happen.

02:32:06.760 I posted something about this today in regards to Radbot. And I said, there is no courage without

02:32:14.160 consequence. If there was no possibility of anything bad happen, then it's not courageous.

02:32:20.220 But you're celebrated because something bad could happen. And you're saying, well,

02:32:24.300 that be damned, I'm going to do what's right to do. And I'm going to be smart and take the 0.96

02:32:29.760 precautions that are necessary, but I'm going to, I'm going to go out there and I'm going to do it

02:32:33.020 and we'll see what happens. That score is a big point. I mean, you was, and I think by doing that,

02:32:40.740 it's more likely that the spirits take notice of you in a positive way than somebody who approaches

02:32:48.080 it in a fearful manner. And again, respectful, being respectful of it is different, but being

02:32:55.560 fearful, if you are courageous and say, you know what, stuff may happen, it may not, but I'm going

02:33:00.680 to go out, I'm going to try to talk to my grandpa. I think people who are listening and paying

02:33:07.060 attention are going to be like, hey, you know, I respect that, that guy's got something. And I

02:33:12.480 think they're going to be much more inclined to listen, and you're going to be more successful

02:33:15.700 by doing it. And I think I'm beating a dead horse at this point, but I do think it's really

02:33:22.100 important it's something that kind of came up to me this week on a completely unrelated note

02:33:26.740 of some people that i know that came into this practice through i think through wiccan stuff

02:33:33.380 to where there's a lot of a lot of focus on protection and less focus on

02:33:43.220 going boldly and with your head up and writing forth nobly into what you're doing and i think

02:33:50.980 that right action at the right time i think is your best protection and i mean that

02:33:57.380 astrally and physically and in any other way you can possibly apply it

02:34:03.220 there the question and and what you just said too made me think of something of

02:34:08.260 for people that have read the book this will make perfect sense for people who haven't read

02:34:10.980 the book i highly recommend it but the way of weird by brian bates there's a specific part in

02:34:15.460 which a novice christian monk is traveling around with an anglo-saxon wittke and he shores him up

02:34:23.060 with courage because he doesn't have courage he he um he siphons his strength from from his

02:34:29.220 religion or from from the deeds of his of his savior and he talks about that he says you have

02:34:34.500 to go out we have to do this we have to go out but what gets him in trouble is not his lack of

02:34:40.500 courage it's it's his um his uh kind of like brazenness against being polite is what ends up

02:34:48.500 causing trouble in the book for him the the the young novice christian um you know they're

02:34:55.140 gathering um and speaking to the spirits of the earth and uh the vidki is is bold and moving

02:35:02.340 forward but he's also polite and wise in what he's doing and the young christian kind of

02:35:07.460 oversteps his bounds and does things wrong and that's when he kind of gets more slighted in the

02:35:12.340 sense of his impropriety not his lack of courage um or his lack of protection you know so that's

02:35:18.980 an interesting thing that just this is one one reason that i really love doing the shows with

02:35:24.660 witness fawn as my co-host is we we are able to pair these things off and add to the points that

02:35:32.900 each of us are making in a really really meaningful way this is very important and i think it's a

02:35:39.060 danger in trusting too much in your hocus pocus if you're like no jesus has got my back so i can

02:35:46.820 go out and be lippy and then you look turn around and nobody's there and you get popped

02:35:54.500 i think in the same way it's very easy in contrast to what i said about people

02:36:00.500 being fearful like no i invoked thor thor's got my back i'm gonna go do whatever

02:36:06.660 and then you turn around and thor's not sitting there with hammer raised you got crickets

02:36:12.260 you're on your own to to cash a a check that you know your mouth wrote but your your astral self

02:36:19.780 can't cash um and i mean i i said it in a funny way but i think it's a serious thing

02:36:28.100 so you know be respectful but be courageous um the same way you would with interacting with people

02:36:39.440 and i think that this is something that we don't often consider

02:36:43.220 what are you who are you interacting with if you're worried about a ghost is it a person

02:36:52.400 if the dude was living would you be afraid of him why are you afraid of him because he's dead

02:36:58.780 don't necessarily need to be is this a guy that in life you would be intimidated by well then

02:37:05.220 maybe you should be intimidated by him in death too but just because something is beyond your 0.97

02:37:12.780 current experience doesn't mean it has to be scary the ghost of some lame ass over there 0.94

02:37:21.080 may very well be scared of you you know maybe they're scared of you coming in yeah that dragon 0.93

02:37:28.280 heads like what you're talking about right now the dragon heads put the dragon heads up when

02:37:32.520 you're attacking because their land spirits need to be like punched in the face but you take your

02:37:38.760 dragon heads down when you come home because you're being respectful to the ones that live near you

02:37:42.760 like all right so

02:37:49.000 all right people who listen to this may not

02:37:53.320 may not understand why this is relevant but i think that it is we make assumptions

02:38:00.440 because something is outside of our realm of experience or beyond the veil we're scared of

02:38:06.120 it because it is different we assume that it's spooky that it's evil or bad or scary first i've

02:38:17.400 always believed this since i was a little kid i've always wondered well before i discovered house

02:38:24.920 if ghosts are spirits of dead people

02:38:27.480 why do we react to everything they do like they're bad or icky or scary or whatever

02:38:39.420 why aren't we nice to them like as a kid I wondered that just because they're dead why

02:38:46.720 wouldn't I be nice to them why would I be mean to them and I think that's again the things that I

02:38:54.720 say sound really childish and simple sometimes. And that's because one of the ways that I process

02:38:59.260 things is trying to boil it down to its most simple level and build from there.

02:39:04.700 And on the most simple human level, why would I be a jerk to other things that exist if they're 0.99

02:39:13.380 not being a jerk to me? Why would I do that? If I wouldn't do that to a person, why would I do that 0.98

02:39:18.420 to something else that has a spirit and a consciousness. And I think those rules still

02:39:24.440 apply. And the other thing is just because we make assumptions about something, this

02:39:31.680 came up. I used to work with mentally retarded individuals. So I'd work with mentally retarded

02:39:40.440 people. And the more you work with them, no, they're real people. There's a whole spectrum 1.00

02:39:47.100 of are they nice are they jerks are they just because they're retarded doesn't mean they're 0.99

02:39:52.920 nice like that's a thing people make this assumption instead of treating them like 1.00

02:39:59.040 individuals and all this poor person's got a disability they must be no they can be a jerk 0.99

02:40:05.880 and disabled just like you know you can be a ghost and still be nice you know if you're going 0.99

02:40:14.040 astrally travel and it's strange to me because we want to make contact with our dead ancestors

02:40:20.840 and we're all ready to like give grandma a hug but if we're in a house and there's you know 0.96

02:40:26.200 somebody else's grandpa's there then we're gonna punch him in the face why uh and it sounds silly 0.79

02:40:32.840 and i'm i'm promise i'm not making light of this this is something that's really 0.95

02:40:37.720 affected my spiritual development when it comes to dealing with things

02:40:42.280 outside of our plane and it was informed by being a little kid and just wondering

02:40:48.680 no i'm going to be nice to other things until they're mean to me it's the same way i am to

02:40:54.040 dogs or anything else i'm not going to be mean unless something is mean to me i'm going to be

02:41:01.000 nice and i'm going to i'm going to put that forward and just like animals and children 0.99

02:41:06.600 and retarded people, for that matter, and I assume ghosts, they smell that on you. 0.99

02:41:13.820 If you approach something with fear and hostility, you are much more likely to receive bad things. 0.99

02:41:22.620 If you approach something with confidence and friendliness, you're much more likely to have

02:41:30.620 that kind of reaction returned to you and i think we have beat this question to death but it's

02:41:38.140 something that it's something that i've spent a lot of time thinking about and it's also something

02:41:42.620 that i know a lot of people have questions about and do a lot of thinking on so i'm really glad

02:41:47.820 that you asked that question um it's pertinent to the rune as well that that that idea of boiling

02:41:56.780 things down to their bare components to step forward and act in the world correctly it's just

02:42:02.940 what you just said well it's one of those things we're all completely inept if you need to be an

02:42:11.580 expert in the afterlife to try to interact beyond the veil then we're all doomed to failure not

02:42:19.980 very few of us know we hear from people who have had near-death experiences

02:42:26.620 we can listen to our elders that maybe have made some progress in their spiritual journey that way

02:42:34.060 we can you know it's fragments here and there but for any of us to think that we're experts on it

02:42:39.660 is a losing battle so what we do have is to boil it down to what we do know and to make comparisons

02:42:46.540 based on that and empathetically try to build on that and that's that's what i feel our next

02:42:53.100 question is from sarah it's a random non-room question uh would sigin be considered part of

02:43:01.020 chaos because of being married to loki what are your thoughts on that swan so i think it's important

02:43:09.420 to look at the deep connection or the inseparability between Sigyn and Loki, just as much as we

02:43:19.380 would look at the inseparable nature of Nana from Balder. There is a connection point that

02:43:28.340 has purpose in the sense that Nana is, we've always, you know, spoken of the conduit, the

02:43:35.420 horn-bearing, the idea of the conduit of connection spiritually in might is placed upon the lips of

02:43:45.020 Baldr from Nana. So through devotion, you find the enlightenment of the spirit of Baldr and the

02:43:53.180 light. With Loki, it's very much the similar, and I think in a way, there's always that polaric force

02:43:59.780 constantly playing out in our stories is that there is that polaric sense so sigyon kind of

02:44:06.660 represents to loki as nana represents to balder and the name i think people get caught up on the

02:44:16.740 name about sigyon and the idea of the giver of victory i think that it's more about the lament

02:44:23.940 of the path that you could have taken the higher ground is now cursed to

02:44:31.780 remain with your folly siguen was the connection to the the to the s here and you know people

02:44:42.420 wonder if they think about loki and their connection to the s here you know it's like

02:44:47.860 that's preposterous or or what may be it it was there there is a lot of lessons

02:44:52.580 both from the gods and to loki in an essence of the ability to align but never taken

02:45:00.900 the instead of alignment and instead of creating in and and joining into the hierarchy of order

02:45:08.820 there was always the element of playing against that so sigyon is the pathway i think that loki

02:45:15.780 could have taken and it's always the bitter reminder and it's only it's it it's the idea

02:45:22.980 that if you have the opportunity to float into order and understand the greater understanding of

02:45:33.700 the order that is going forward and you refuse to take it then you carry that tag with you for the

02:45:40.340 your deeds carry that with you they assuage a lot of perhaps your guilt or perhaps it's even

02:45:46.660 the sense of sigun is in a way um the way that we create excuses for actions that we took that led

02:45:57.140 us down paths that aren't where we perhaps retrospectively see ourselves where we could

02:46:03.700 have we could have we should have perhaps those excuses are kind of like sigun's bowl uh deflecting

02:46:10.660 the venom of our of our deeds the the outcomes of our deeds sometimes we do this so far in and then

02:46:17.220 you know we create or do an action and then it leads us down a path away from the centralization

02:46:25.860 from the building from the order and then we create these kind of essences well i did the

02:46:30.980 right thing because of this and because of that but at the end of the day you're alone strapped

02:46:35.620 to the rock and the venom is coming and the only thing you have to assuage that is your sense of

02:46:40.660 like you you did the right thing the excuses are there to kind of soften the bitterness

02:46:47.380 and it only softens it for so long before the venom hits again and so i think sigun represents

02:46:54.020 a folly in that um that sense there was an opportunity of a victory through alignment

02:47:00.660 and it was spurned and now it remains as the only thing assuaging the wound so

02:47:08.420 i look at that a little bit differently and i think that

02:47:16.420 i think there was something really meaningful in swan's comparison of sigin to uh to nana

02:47:23.540 i'm trying to think of how to best way to phrase this

02:47:34.220 as loki's wife her duty is to her husband

02:47:45.040 and even at his lowest point she is there faithfully executing her duty as a good wife

02:47:55.260 in the same way that nana is as that symbol of devotion when her husband is in hell's region

02:48:03.380 and it's one of those things yes i still think she absolutely represents chaos because she's

02:48:11.060 still carrying that banner because it's her job. She could throw it down and not and defect, 1.00

02:48:17.580 but she's not. She's standing by her man, even though her man is the most evil thing in our

02:48:24.040 cosmos. This isn't a glowing celebration of her, but it is a certain nod of respect.

02:48:37.400 um there's people on the other team that wouldn't necessarily want to fight you if they didn't have

02:48:46.020 to but it is what it is and their liege is fighting your liege and you guys are going

02:48:51.980 to have to face each other and it is what it is but you can still respect that and be on the other

02:48:59.480 team you can still acknowledge the virtue even when the virtue is done you know on the other side

02:49:11.320 there's a way to acknowledge that and i think in a way

02:49:15.960 no she's on the other team she's she's on the other side and i'm on this side and that's fine

02:49:22.120 and i get that and you know were it to come to blows i'm gonna do what i'm gonna do but

02:49:29.480 I still I still respect that there's a dignity there that I don't think is carried towards other folks on that team, as it were.

02:49:42.900 And I think it speaks a little bit, the fact that this is done by wives in the ability of our ladies to be frith weavers.

02:49:52.020 sometimes they are put in a spot because of their allegiance to their husband that

02:49:58.840 they wouldn't have chosen to be in but them doing their duty um by that still has it has a dignity

02:50:10.780 and it also shows that because they're able to transcend some of the bad feelings that are

02:50:18.300 focused by man against other man women or the divine feminine our goddesses have the ability to

02:50:27.580 heal wounds and deflect poison as it were and uh smooth some things out i mean in in in our 0.79

02:50:40.540 our mythos there's there's nothing to be smooth at that point for loki she's still there doing

02:50:47.180 doing her part and i can respect that at the end of the day even if it's on the other team

02:50:52.540 and i think that's that's where i've always fallen with it but yeah she's still on side of chaos

02:50:59.180 because she's choosing to stand with it even even after the sentence has been decreed

02:51:07.340 um but i can respect that duty

02:51:10.780 ah witness fine can you also use kina's for illumination of a situation against you

02:51:22.320 uh you know what i'm going to go out and say i wouldn't there's another rune that i know of that

02:51:32.480 i would say is better for illumination curious what you're going to say i was going to say

02:51:37.520 Deir or Dagos. Dagos is an interesting rune, one of the big tenets of Dagos that I've often, well, and Soilo. Soilo and Dagos.

02:51:51.120 But Daga's is an interesting one, and we'll go into that more, but the idea of that which is in darkness comes to light, or perhaps that which is in light must go into darkness in order to retrieve or to move the transitional spot between illumination and darkness.

02:52:07.540 I don't want to go into too much, but from my experience, especially in runic work, that rune and Sowilo, both in conjunction with each other, I feel, again, are better in the idea of illumination, especially deception or vitriol or something of ill against you.

02:52:32.740 I think Kenaz in illumination is more internal. So perhaps I should renegotiate and say, perhaps if you are your own folly, then Kenaz is about revealing that which is kind of you working against you, whatever that might manifest as.

02:52:53.360 And that those things, those blockages that keep you from proceeding forward with mastery over your craft or over your initiation of duty or the pathways of actions you're going to take.

02:53:07.720 Sometimes Kenos is more about finding the folly at your feet, finding the folly at your table, as opposed to, say, the folly or the treachery of someone else's.

02:53:17.960 So this is, and this comes from Cody. This is kind of what I was saying earlier in the broadcast.

02:53:31.460 Sure, you can absolutely use it that way.

02:53:41.940 Svahn wouldn't, and he has very good reasons that he would use different rooms.

02:53:48.020 I would use still different rooms, but if you would use Kenaz, and if looking at

02:53:58.380 situations in your life that you're suspicious of through that lens

02:54:04.900 is meaningful to bringing light to those i don't think that's illegitimate and again i know this

02:54:12.480 sounds wishy-washy and i i understand that but

02:54:18.900 it's not an exact science so much is with intent and so much is the lens in which you see things

02:54:27.640 there is a very significant gray area in the use of runes now there is black and white there's

02:54:36.760 runes that would be stupid to use for this this is not one of them there are runes that are perfect

02:54:42.940 for certain situations this is not one of them but it's not wrong if that is the way that your 0.94

02:54:52.500 mind best reformulating the way you think in terms of our runes is in and of itself beneficial

02:55:03.620 if this and that torch would help you to do that absolutely if i was performing this for

02:55:10.580 somebody else who was not you that's not the rune i would go to but so much of our runic practice is

02:55:18.260 informed by how we've internalized these runes as the practitioner now it's very important to

02:55:26.260 realize that if you're interpreting runes for others their runes that they've drawn or that

02:55:32.900 they came to you with they're like hey i had a vision of this rune it's not about how you see

02:55:39.060 that room no x that it's how they might see that room and figuring that out is a challenge for any

02:55:46.580 goofy that's something that i run into when folks come to me with runic questions

02:55:52.740 if i did the rune pull then cool i'm i'm good with i i say that that sounds arrogant i don't

02:55:58.420 mean it that way but i feel a certain amount of comfort in interpreting the runes the way

02:56:04.500 that i would understand but when somebody comes to me with a rune pull they did that they found

02:56:10.340 disturbing i am much more interested in how they internalize those runes than how i would

02:56:18.180 internalize those rooms because they're the ones who did the magic on that if that makes sense

02:56:25.620 and i'm not sure it does but the person who puts it into motion it's their lens that is

02:56:34.180 the one we're dealing with not your lens is somebody looking at it from the outside

02:56:39.540 because there is there is an objective outside element to the runes but there's also a very

02:56:44.100 significant internal element to the vitki or the practitioner who uses those rooms um

02:56:54.340 do what i say make any sense spawn you can tell me if i didn't you can tell me i mean absolutely

02:57:00.900 because again if you're internalizing the idea of kenna's being the torch that bears light

02:57:05.140 there's absolutely that there i'm you know again it's a lot of two about the way we

02:57:09.380 receive the information of the power of the runes that makes us have a go-to kind of idea

02:57:17.140 of your your the way you view dagas and the way i view dagas they're not existentially different

02:57:29.140 but some of the fundamentals that i think we place emphasis on are different and that's one

02:57:33.300 of the reasons i wouldn't use i use dagas almost as like um now my words escape me um the liminal

02:57:46.740 space between light and dark of dawn and dusk more than full day and full night i view it as like

02:57:54.340 the point of equilibrium but again yours is completely right i think mine is too it's just

02:58:01.220 different from where we're at i think swillow is a really good choice i would have also used

02:58:07.460 ansu's because i don't think it's really about light i think light is a figure of speech we

02:58:13.140 we use on it but you don't really want a bright light what you want is knowledge you want the

02:58:18.180 ability to see and and i think that one but again that's because of what i bring into it versus what

02:58:26.500 you bring it versus what cody brings it so i think that's important to keep in mind for anybody out

02:58:32.580 there listening um the next question is i think this next question let me check and make sure i

02:58:43.540 didn't skip one okay what about having good relations with the land itself and not fearing

02:58:51.300 the spirits around us as opposed to what i'm not i think that i'm missing a little bit of context

02:59:01.380 on it so i hope that we answer this correctly swan what do you what do you take from that

02:59:05.620 well and i think this is referring to the idea of faring forth and and ultimately dealing with

02:59:10.260 the relationships of of the living and the the things that are beyond the living or or

02:59:16.580 or spiritually about the geist of things.

02:59:21.260 Yeah, basically what you're saying is good relations with the land,

02:59:24.600 maybe perhaps indeed.

02:59:26.300 You know, if you take care of things,

02:59:28.160 if you do things with the intent of being noble

02:59:32.880 and, you know, the things that are around us oftentimes witness what we do.

02:59:39.000 And we talked about that on another VNS episode

02:59:41.320 of the ideas that our deeds oftentimes have far-reaching repercussions

02:59:45.600 in a positive sense too if we enact and act nobly to to folks i mean this happens all the time

02:59:53.740 even locally at the hof you know people have heard all kinds of horror stories or whatever they

03:00:00.260 whatever they have come across but when they meet and we talk and everything is done with

03:00:07.320 cordialness politeness even brevity and uh and or uh you know or not brevity but um

03:00:15.340 you know, just a, or a sense of jovial happiness towards doing the deeds that we're doing. People

03:00:21.080 go, okay, well, that's, that's not me. That's them, but I get it. They're doing that. And they

03:00:25.240 seem like good people. I'm doing my thing. They're doing their thing. It's yeah. It's the way that

03:00:30.160 you go about your deeds oftentimes greatly improve those that are going to encounter you

03:00:37.140 from the outside inward that ends up a lot of times again yeah helping you

03:00:45.380 have a different experience than the immediate negative so

03:00:53.140 um you know this is this is something kind of interesting

03:00:56.500 yes and i've mentioned one of it's hard because these questions they're very specific questions

03:01:09.700 but they'll bring up sometimes bigger concepts that either sfan or i have thought about

03:01:17.620 a lot so it's like you open the door and we just want to give you the deluge of what we

03:01:22.660 thought on the topic or maybe we've discussed it before and maybe it's come up before so sometimes

03:01:29.700 you ask a real specific question and then me and spawn talk for a half an hour about something that

03:01:35.780 veers far away from it on one level i apologize i want to give you a direct answer to your question

03:01:43.300 on another level i think it's valuable to the people that listen to it that aren't maybe the

03:01:47.860 person who asked the question but people who do have curiosity um i believe very strongly that

03:01:56.580 your reputation transcends our existence

03:02:04.900 the gods could be aware of your reputation if they want to be i don't think that each

03:02:12.180 person's reputation is important enough that our gods necessarily care but certainly your reputation

03:02:20.980 could be meaningful to our gods i very much hope that by the time my time

03:02:28.180 in midgard is done that my reputation means something to our gods that is a very sincere

03:02:35.220 hope of mine. I could toil my entire life and not be worthy of that. We'll see, time will tell.

03:02:45.780 But I think when you deal with the land spirits and spirits that are around your vicinity,

03:02:53.340 your reputation precedes you and matters. I think that how your ancestors speak of you when they

03:03:00.320 past beyond the veil to the others beyond the veil matters. I think that those looking in who

03:03:07.180 have an interest in location, in specific people, in you yourself, judge you based on your reputation.

03:03:17.360 So I think reputation is a valuable commodity across all realms.

03:03:22.220 um and it's something

03:03:25.720 and this is relevant to the the next question as well um but i but i think so okay so to keep it on 0.95

03:03:34.360 this question for a second um yeah don't be a jerk take care of what you have but seriously

03:03:43.120 if you acquire a new piece of so we and this isn't theoretical at siggerheim we just acquired 0.97

03:03:51.240 this property right so we're starting a fresh relationship with the spirits that are there

03:03:59.720 what spirits are there there are spirits of the land generally that we don't necessarily

03:04:04.280 know specifics about but when we took over we discovered that we have a significant graveyard

03:04:12.360 at sigerheim we actually have two i believe one is a slave's graveyard and one is

03:04:20.360 um for the the white folks that have lived there on that land uh neither but i'm not sure and i

03:04:26.680 want to find out and i want to know um because i believe um a white man's grave is by this what

03:04:34.040 has been told to us as the slave's graveyard so i want to know if that's anyways we go there

03:04:41.240 the first time that we were able to see this again it wasn't disclosed to us somebody

03:04:48.520 the realtor to the best of their knowledge said it was an engine burial ground and there was like one

03:04:54.440 engine grave and that's all there was no there's a whole bunch of there's i think 13

03:05:02.360 named stones that we can figure out and probably twice again that much of other

03:05:08.440 stones that don't have names that we don't know about um 14 now because i interred my mom there

03:05:15.560 last month so most of these seem to have passed towards

03:05:29.000 the beginning to the middle of the 1800s and it doesn't look like anybody's paid them any

03:05:35.960 attention since then they're overgrown they're in a terrible condition um

03:05:45.880 yeah nobody's cared nobody's taken care of these things so we're going there and

03:05:55.160 i hope that it impresses the spirits that are there that's not why we're doing it we're doing

03:06:00.520 it because we are noble people and it's the right thing to do we're going to take care of the graves

03:06:07.560 we're going to clean up the graveyard we're going to repair the stones that we can repair

03:06:12.600 the ones we have enough information that we can replace if they're not repairable we're

03:06:17.080 going to try to replace them and we're going to be good stewards of that

03:06:23.880 that act of front-loading something noble and paying attention to and caring for

03:06:30.520 These people, hopefully, the spirits of these people beyond the veil will look favorably upon us for doing them that kindness.

03:06:40.860 I would think that they would. 0.99

03:06:42.620 If they don't, they're jerks, but we're still going to do the right thing. 0.99

03:06:47.000 Again, and I say that as nonchalantly as I would about a person, because I think to treat them otherwise is disrespectful. 0.99

03:07:00.520 So, yeah, of course we think that they would appreciate that. We hope that they would appreciate that. But it's the right thing to do, so we're going to do it anyway. But that's the thing about building a relationship with land spirits. Like, for another thing, if we find trash, we're going to clean it up.

03:07:18.740 We're going to take care of the land to the best of our ability.

03:07:22.400 We're not going to be obnoxious.

03:07:24.840 We're going to try to keep things orderly and beautiful.

03:07:28.320 And we're going to be respectful while we're there.

03:07:30.380 And that's going to build reputation and hopefully at least a respect with the spirits that are there, if not a genuine bond of affection.

03:07:40.280 And that's to that.

03:07:42.180 And I think the next question follows right along with this.

03:07:44.540 do you believe in ghosts or other spiritual creatures like a lot of people in iceland

03:07:49.400 believe in elves do you believe in those two what's a use fun yes um uh when we talk about

03:07:59.760 the alvar or the elves yes uh we talk about the vetter or the or the land whites yes we talk

03:08:07.180 about even the um the interconnection between or or perhaps even the window through the veil that

03:08:15.260 our ancestors work through with us yes we we do and and again it's all based upon how you would

03:08:24.140 treat a living person how you would treat um you know any one of that of of any ilk in any on a

03:08:33.680 baseline is again if there's not hostility and there's not enemy-ness that's being carried

03:08:40.160 then you treat just simply as you would with nobility um the that's that is a very important

03:08:47.200 thing even in iceland there's always a that that's portrayed in the media is like that the icelanders

03:08:53.520 won't go places out of fear that's not the case the case is is that generally there's an emissary

03:09:01.680 someone who like a godly uh if you will perhaps not um you know recognized or something but there's

03:09:08.160 an emissary or a person connected to the land that goes about and finds the best route that they feel

03:09:13.520 would be the most you know uh beneficial in for everyone um and there's not like just piling

03:09:21.360 straight through with no regard for respect of the of the past of the land at all so that intent

03:09:29.920 is i think one of the more important things it's not based off of fear it's based off

03:09:34.240 politeness courteousness but yes the um the the the spirits that are are not outside

03:09:43.360 or alien to us they are part of the entirety of of of everything that we are in uh we are in it as

03:09:52.160 well so we have to interact and keep consistent with that and i think we do very much so i mean

03:09:59.280 even at thorsoff the grave of uh mr philip bethea uh was in dereliction it was completely run over

03:10:07.200 we encapsulated his area we cleaned off his stone and we rebuilt a new one because we couldn't

03:10:13.280 figure out a way to get it get the old stone back up there's pieces missing that were long gone to

03:10:18.320 ages of time and members of the church that had been there for many years a long time ago and

03:10:23.280 said they didn't even know that there was a grave there and to be fair we haven't specked from the

03:10:28.080 ground perhaps he was moved and the stone was just left you know what so flag on the play

03:10:35.360 we had a guy come out there with a metal detector he was able to find the chains and what would

03:10:40.880 look like the you know fittings for a coffin there maybe they didn't know he was there they

03:10:50.480 knew enough to put up flagging to where they didn't destroy their lawn mower on his on his

03:10:55.840 tombstone anybody could have looked and seen it's a tombstone i don't doubt they didn't know his

03:11:04.240 name because they didn't care to know his name um his name was philip bethea and we did care

03:11:13.760 right and that makes a difference and again philip bethea on his old on his older tombstone

03:11:20.240 clearly stated in or maybe not for him as an individual but at least his community around him

03:11:25.360 he was a christian or the people that buried him were devout christians we didn't go in and against

03:11:33.040 that we simply replaced the stone saying that you'll be honored here and you'll be remembered

03:11:37.760 here and you'll be protected here because that was the right thing to do um and and we continue to do

03:11:44.320 so and i think that that a lot of people don't understand um or they would assume i guess because

03:11:51.280 you know that a lot of times villainy is a reflection inward um they they assume that

03:11:56.160 we're you know villainous people that act differently we will treat but we are quite

03:12:02.160 you know even keeled in all things because again that is about order that's about the

03:12:08.240 consistency of deed and that applies to land spirits to the alvar whether they're leo salvators

03:12:16.960 svartalfar who you know by by notoriety alone svartalfar are have a tendency to be very much

03:12:24.080 chevious or kind of like don't experiences and little nuggets that we gain from our ancestors

03:12:29.760 is like be careful of them the chocolate elves well the the you know the idea of their their

03:12:35.440 prankingness or their connection to the material world that's a whole nother thing is going into

03:12:39.760 the uh the the spectrum of alvar and visir and lanvertir and or hoodlfolk amongst the icelanders

03:12:47.520 um and and all of those things the idea is that you know until um the slight is done there's no

03:12:54.400 sense in in assuming a slight will be done and to go forth and act nobly and i think that even if

03:13:01.440 there is uh the intention of a slight that's often lessened when they realize they're dealing with

03:13:06.960 someone who will treat unilaterally across the board the same way that's the thing just don't 0.96

03:13:13.280 be a jerk um and it it sounds so simple and i don't mean to make it i could find fancier verbiage 0.94

03:13:23.760 but no it's the most simple thing you tell your kids be nice to people like just be nice to people 0.99

03:13:32.240 um be they living people be they dead people be they spirit people be they physical people

03:13:39.720 just be nice to people be a good person um yes we absolutely believe in those things

03:13:47.000 i think the easiest thing for us to conceptualize in our belief is the idea of ghosts

03:13:53.480 now that overlaps with the idea of alfar and that you know is the idea of desir

03:14:01.040 the idea of you know elevated male and female ancestors but even not elevated of male and

03:14:08.800 female ancestors we believe in that and it's very easy for us as people to

03:14:14.400 conceive of our loved ones living on after death in some way um

03:14:22.720 it's really interesting and i think we talk about it seldom and i think rightly so 0.96

03:14:28.960 because you get a bunch of lunatics out there that you know

03:14:33.920 everything they do is this magical spiritual joy ride every single day and they're hanging 0.99

03:14:39.520 out with ghosts and they're talking to cleopatra and they're like ah me and napoleon we're playing

03:14:44.480 chess and and it cheapens it for the real experiences of people that have real interactions

03:14:52.400 certainly queen cleopatra or emperor napoleon might choose to interact with somebody at some point

03:14:59.040 i doubt it's with the fat basement dwellers that tell me that that's who they hang out with um

03:15:09.600 if these people wouldn't have hung out with you in real life i don't think they hang out with you

03:15:13.840 or in their living like waking life i don't think they're hanging out with you posthumously i think

03:15:18.480 there are heads of state and high nobility and you know amazing athletes and people at the top of

03:15:26.240 their field that they're probably hanging out with if that's who what they choose to do with their

03:15:31.040 time um it's interesting though if you've ever known somebody who does have second sight or

03:15:39.760 whatever you'd like to call that ability or the shining or whatever it is where you

03:15:45.200 where you shine where you can see these things where you can interact with spirits beyond the

03:15:53.060 veil and i don't mean to be i do mean to be silly because it's funny because the shining is funny

03:15:58.860 but realistically it's a thing and i believe very much in it and i know that a number of our people

03:16:04.980 do um i've met a number of people very often women that seem to have that ability

03:16:15.060 um there was a woman i met on an afa trip to denmark who's very much that way

03:16:23.460 um

03:16:24.720 her name was justina um 0.97

03:16:30.360 she gosh she was fascinating um she was a really interesting lady over there and she

03:16:39.360 I forget I think she might have been a stewardess I'm not sure what she was by trade 0.73

03:16:48.920 but she would very often go and sleep in dolmens and stone circles and around burial sites

03:16:57.780 and she took us to these amazing places off the beaten trail now we went to

03:17:04.140 museums and more touristy places. But then she took us to all these, you know, these dolmens

03:17:12.140 on somebody's property that was privately owned for forever that we never would have known about

03:17:17.400 if we didn't know her. She knew where all these really special off the beaten path stone ships,

03:17:24.560 stone circles, dolmens and things were. And she was somebody that was in touch with the other side

03:17:33.900 more than more than average i'd say and she had a couple of really special moments with myself

03:17:41.100 and with steve mcdalen who was on that trip with me that were that were really interesting um

03:17:50.380 i don't think overtly so in the terms of spirits that it's relevant to this conversation but i

03:17:55.180 will talk about that sometime um when i went over to sweden on an afa trip one of our members over

03:18:02.060 there and i don't know if he wants me to share or whatever so he's he's still a member and i won't

03:18:07.900 go into his name but guy i really have a lot of respect for he uh he had that ability and one of

03:18:15.500 the things that was really meaningful to me was how casually and nonchalantly and so here's the

03:18:29.580 thing he had mentioned in passing about a spirit that he noticed following or you know hanging

03:18:39.340 around somebody who was in our vehicle and when he was like looking around or whatever he looked at

03:18:45.020 me just completely casually he's like oh yeah there's lots of spirits that are following you

03:18:49.060 around all the time but that's because of who you are anyways if he would have said that in a way 0.97

03:18:55.440 to ingratiate himself to me or to like kiss my butt or make me feel good or something 0.69

03:19:01.120 i would have been more suspicious but he said that it's like no of course people are looking 0.90

03:19:05.680 at you whatever anyways i'm getting to the point that i'm talking about he said it so casually that

03:19:11.360 it seemed to me to be much more realistic and then he talked to the person in the car that

03:19:18.480 he did notice you know a particular figure attached to um but again i think reputation

03:19:27.920 proceeds there was a bunch of spirits apparently over there because we went to a number of different

03:19:33.280 burial sites uh viking mass graves stone circles to where we know there was a lot of burials

03:19:42.080 people taking an interest in you know oh this guy is you know some guy from america that is

03:19:48.480 priest of the IC or okay this is interesting I could see that being interesting to people you

03:19:55.260 know that that makes sense to me as being some a point of interest of oh this guy has this title

03:20:01.320 that he's something let's go see what this guy's about okay um but yeah again because he didn't

03:20:09.660 make a big deal of it none of it was to self-aggrandize or to score points with anybody

03:20:15.380 i really i really believe the things that he was saying and he noticed things he waited until

03:20:21.620 other people who so there was a group of native swedes that went with us to these places

03:20:28.580 to show us you know where they did ritual in their holy places and then there was those of us visiting

03:20:36.660 and it's like they would wait i remember we visited this one space that they said was their

03:20:42.500 like their most special place that they typically did bloat and it had recently been very disturbed

03:20:50.980 it used to be like in the middle of the woods and they recently cleared a bunch of land near it

03:20:55.160 and they were upset about that but we went there and it was in one of those

03:21:00.180 you know liminal times it was right at dusk and we were there in this circle

03:21:08.560 and some people who were in our party from the United States noticed some things

03:21:15.280 and they waited until people mentioned things they noticed and then the Swedes looking at them

03:21:24.080 again of course everybody could be lying but I didn't get that feel and I read people fairly

03:21:32.200 well and I've dealt with a lot of people in a lot of different circumstances

03:21:35.080 and they seem to oh yes i see you know there was one that was a child that would hide behind these

03:21:41.560 stones and pop out like oh yes we see him all the time this and that somebody else noticed a woman

03:21:48.000 across the road that would kind of peer out and then you know she wasn't she was hesitant to look

03:21:53.360 in or whatever and i remember she was wearing a specific type of clothing they're like oh yes we

03:21:58.640 see her all the time, this and that. They were all very familiar with anything people were feeling

03:22:05.720 in a way that was very convincing. And again, I hear people say stuff all the time. And

03:22:11.580 I would say 90% of the things that I hear from people, I will listen respectfully, but 90% of

03:22:19.960 them I think are fanciful or something that somebody's perhaps making up or projecting or

03:22:25.500 some other kind of BS. But there's absolutely many circumstances that I very solidly believe

03:22:36.340 that people are having the interactions or claiming they're having. And I think it's a

03:22:40.460 very real thing. I think that something else, when you read philosophical works and you read stuff,

03:22:50.140 People will go on these long tangents as if the astral world is the only real world.

03:22:56.500 The physical world isn't real.

03:22:58.280 It's just some projection and all this other nonsense that's just not true, that we know damn well is not true.

03:23:07.900 There is a, the answer isn't either or.

03:23:11.280 However, we absolutely live a material existence that is real, that has value, that is tangible, that exists.

03:23:20.800 Don't be a basement wizard and pretend it doesn't.

03:23:25.320 But once you realize that, there's also other levels of existence that we only have a very slight understanding of that are just as real in their own way that we need to be open to.

03:23:41.280 And I've noticed one thing that I'm really proud of.

03:23:47.600 This has happened when I've conducted two different funerals. 0.97

03:23:52.980 Families that were tied to a Christian church and very much shut that part of themselves off that was sensible to the other. 0.90

03:24:05.020 Because they felt something very strongly at funerals that I was able to be there for. 0.92

03:24:11.280 opened themselves up to that other, and a flood of other came in that changed their lives in a

03:24:23.300 significant way to where they were open to seeing more than they had seen before.

03:24:28.300 And I absolutely believe that's true.

03:24:33.540 So the next question, again, follows along this theme, and I think is interesting.

03:24:37.880 is there an austral explanation for demons poltergeist etc or is that uh this is strictly

03:24:46.460 a christian concept i have family who claim to have encountered such entities what are your

03:24:53.220 thoughts on that swan well first right out the gate i yes i my encounterings with with ill spirits

03:25:03.100 is limited um at the same time there's some knowledge that was kind of uh bestowed upon me

03:25:11.080 from my teacher in relation to poltergeist so well hit one and then the other the closest thing

03:25:18.080 to a again the greek word deimon you know an appliance to the idea of being lesser than divine

03:25:25.320 and and a lot of people don't realize that hercules according to the greek definition of

03:25:31.880 deimon was that the word demon was you was uh incorporated into christian kind of a lexicon

03:25:41.480 from a hebrew aramaic word which is like a shaitan which still exists in islam today

03:25:49.560 uh or uh or a shadim uh an ill spirit so you know when uh in the bible when jesus says you know i'm 0.60

03:25:58.440 I'm not going to help your daughter because I'm here to only save the children of Israel.

03:26:03.300 And then she pleads with him. 0.83

03:26:04.700 And then he says, all right, well, every master can throw scraps to the dogs. 0.98

03:26:08.640 And then he expels the Shedim. 1.00

03:26:10.740 They're talking about Shedim.

03:26:12.060 That is a very unique thing to the Middle East.

03:26:16.340 I would say equivalency, though, without pulling from the Greeks or without pulling from the Middle East in any of those concepts,

03:26:24.040 The first and foremost thing would be two words is Thursr. Thursr is, again, Thursaz is referenced, again, as a giant. But there's very, very, you know, foundational Ausatrupe folks that have spoken about land spirits and things like that in the classification of the Jotuns when it comes to Risi or Thursr.

03:26:54.040 you know muspeli or even the the the rim yachtins and and so on and so forth the thurser is this 0.95

03:27:02.520 primordial entity of wild and chaos and uh you know feminine malignancy towards order towards 0.97

03:27:13.080 goodness towards nobility um and that has changed over time to the word troll now the word troll 0.78

03:27:21.800 has of course changed towards whether it's fuzzy hair naked weird looking things or um

03:27:29.480 or even in the norse country looking things yeah oh excuse me yes odd or strange looking things

03:27:35.640 excuse me not weird uh we're we're relegating that word to its true purpose more and more every day

03:27:42.600 um gallon on you yeah i'm half expecting him to just like bust through the wall with the tiger

03:27:49.640 crane but the you know the the christianity minimized um one of the the parts of later

03:27:59.160 day christianity was the minimization of land spirits the minimization of of any sort of entity

03:28:05.160 outside of the paradigms that they worked in and they demonized um anything outside of that or

03:28:13.400 reduced it when it didn't pose a theocratical threat. And that happened a lot in Iceland,

03:28:20.800 but it didn't quite stick. But they did talk about the idea that bells, you know,

03:28:27.000 church bells scared away, Alvar or land whites. But, you know, again, bells and usage to the Lord

03:28:36.740 frere is you know noted and remarked upon and so a lot of our connections to bells and the idea of

03:28:44.900 appeasing land spirits with bells uh you know or or in in norse countries especially like sweden

03:28:51.540 and norway there is the gray-haired kind of knobby-nosed uh land spirit that is called the troll

03:29:00.100 that uh you know is kind of rough and earthy and um i i think that's more of what they're

03:29:07.060 kind of considering a land spirit and then of course you have the the giant earth-based

03:29:15.300 things that um pose a threat uh not not but their paradigm is is a little different it poses a

03:29:22.500 threat because humanity um is encroaching on on places um but in iceland i remember when i was

03:29:31.860 very little we had this book and it was called trolls and a lot of it was post-christian iceland

03:29:37.860 but they talked about evil spirits that lived in desolate places and that you know people would

03:29:44.660 disappear and the the the uh the trolls would scream in their ears and turn them into trolls

03:29:53.540 and there was uh you know as a kid i was just like this is super crazy and and uh it was very

03:30:00.660 kind of you know terrifying or you know when we talked about grilla and and all and uh you know

03:30:06.260 the difference between like her as a troll versus the yule lads being more like land spirits um

03:30:11.460 But I would say thirst and troll are an immediate sense towards malignant spirits that cause, you know, havoc and are ill.

03:30:24.260 But the encountering of those things is, again, on the status of legend, on the status of like finite hearsay in a lot of ways.

03:30:35.720 The other thing I would say is poltergeists. I was taught about this, that the Svartalfar are connected to the material. And so their ability to move the material.

03:30:51.460 so when we talk about the paltergeist or the noisy ghost of the german language

03:30:56.020 as what it means is this ghost that has the ability to move the physical world um

03:31:03.460 as a smart alpha a a being of spiritual power that has connection to material

03:31:09.860 quite literally the elements or the the building blocks of the material world

03:31:14.420 that which is below kind of coming up uh a lot of times i feel like those those encounters with um

03:31:21.300 uh you know door slamming and and flipping of things and all of those things whether

03:31:27.180 let's just speak of them as actually happening because i know there are a lot of pranksters and

03:31:31.900 people that want to again perpetuate these things via video or just false accounts uh just for the

03:31:38.880 lulls or just to inspire uncertainty in people. I've always been taught that those beings are

03:31:47.860 oftentimes what we would consider Svart Alvar as they are. When we're talking about Svarty,

03:31:56.160 Svart is the soot or the material, the building blocks and elements, and they manifest sometimes

03:32:04.100 in our time with the ability to move things that are physical and so oftentimes um appeasement

03:32:12.340 and or um a simple it is time for you to go it this is not welcomed here um and again

03:32:23.140 protection if you will but oftentimes more along the lines of i give this gift but this gift holds

03:32:31.140 the point is that you must leave because this is not where you belong you belong elsewhere you

03:32:36.340 belong in the neither valor not here in midgar so there is a point and then that could escalate to

03:32:42.500 you need to go um and then that even goes into the concept of um the icelandic varv locker

03:32:48.980 the word lockers the ones who can basically go forth and encapsulate and remove uh entities

03:32:58.020 that refuse to go so a couple of concepts

03:33:11.460 things that are real are real regardless of your faith

03:33:16.500 so when you say this house you have a concept of if demons exist in christianity

03:33:22.820 are they real or not if they are real they don't go oh this guy's also true we'll leave him be

03:33:30.880 we're only going to mess with with christians we have different ways of interpreting different

03:33:38.080 primordial forces that exist and a christian would describe things that sometimes we're

03:33:46.340 describing the same thing but they're going to use jesus words and we're going to you know do

03:33:52.520 our best to trill our r's and use some kind of norse variant that we have yeah there's bad things out

03:34:02.520 there there are bad entities that want to do bad chaotic things and cause problems 1.00

03:34:14.840 it's like now the christians at least the catholics have a whole school of demonology

03:34:21.640 to where they itemize these things in a very very specific way i think ours is much much less so and

03:34:29.960 much more vague um you know a catholic priest wouldn't always assume that it's satan or beelzebub

03:34:42.680 or like a super high demon high-ranking demon that's messing with you because you're that

03:34:47.800 important no very often it's just some random like low-level foot soldier demon messing with you

03:34:56.360 um that's probably the case like i don't think cert is going to try to possess you and mess with

03:35:03.400 you could he sure are you that special that he's that's what he does with his time

03:35:11.640 I don't know. I doubt that. So there's massive, you know, Jotun's of supreme chaos that whatever, are they messing with you? Probably not.

03:35:27.920 there are are atons or jotnar of much lesser degrees that are also forces of chaos that may

03:35:38.500 mess with something or someone or could possibly be encountered there's you know trolls and

03:35:46.560 tricksters and little whatever else that might be and then there's the spirits of dead humans

03:35:52.960 On the greater Alcetru demonology, we need to develop that better. I don't think we have a good textbook of that or a good Alcetru, you know, legion of exorcists to send towards you if that's what you're dealing with.

03:36:09.840 um that said we have had gothar called in to chase off bad spirits and in my understanding

03:36:22.780 that's always been very effective um when it comes to spirits of the dead it's like walmart

03:36:33.200 so i'm going to take you to walmart and wilmer minnesota so if you've never been to walmart

03:36:42.020 in wilmer minnesota if you can imagine what walmart in

03:36:47.020 ethiopia might look like that's probably or maybe somewhere in in somalia that's that's

03:36:57.180 what the walmart looks like there because of the way that we have populated

03:37:02.080 refugees and things of that nature walmart in wilmer minnesota is extremely african and

03:37:12.940 extremely islamic um it's neither here nor there it's just setting the stage for the story

03:37:19.440 so myself and nathan erlinson folk builder in minnesota gothi student

03:37:27.000 If he minds his P's and Q's, he'll probably be a go-thee one day real soon.

03:37:30.720 We'll see.

03:37:32.140 So Nathan and I were there, and we had a grocery run for an event.

03:37:37.700 And we were there dressed in a shirt and tie, dressed nicely because we were just at the

03:37:42.900 Hoth.

03:37:44.000 We went there to do some shopping.

03:37:46.940 The vast majority of the people in the store, I don't know what they thought about us, but

03:37:52.440 they just went about their shopping and minded their business.

03:37:56.180 There were some people that saw we were dressed up and were like, hey, looking good. Hey, that's sharp. Some people made some reference to the Italian mafia, and it was still positive. So we're like, hey, that's, you know, whatever. Benissimo.

03:38:10.140 mo um so anyways that's fine and then we're in the liquor store and these two hispanic gentlemen

03:38:20.220 came in and they were trying to start something with us and so we had like set to the point that 1.00

03:38:28.680 we set down our our basket because we thought we're gonna have to scrap with these guys

03:38:34.720 And it turns out they didn't really want none, but they wanted to start, you know, causing problems.

03:38:41.400 And I tell this story to say this.

03:38:45.280 We were in a place with, I don't know, two, three hundred people.

03:38:52.480 There was three or four out of that three hundred people that had something real positive to say.

03:38:59.220 We're like, hey, you guys look good. 0.99

03:39:01.460 There was two that were jerks. 0.97

03:39:04.720 and i think that's probably what you run into you know that kind of ratio i think most 0.99

03:39:11.200 spirits of the dead probably don't care about you i think a couple of them may be like hey

03:39:16.640 you're a cool guy thumbs up and i think there's probably a couple that maybe if they can cause

03:39:21.760 some mischief and mess with you a little bit might do that and the deal we went to the store

03:39:30.400 we got our stuff and we went home. I think most of the time, the spirits of the dead don't have

03:39:37.960 that ability to hurt you that bad or to, you know, change your life that much one way or another.

03:39:45.660 Some of them could be very nice to you. Some of them can be mean. Most of them probably don't

03:39:52.100 care and are doing other things and care about other people. And again, I know that sounds real

03:39:57.880 pedestrian but i also think it's honest um i and i think this goes into the next question

03:40:08.760 so i'll transition to that question before i continue

03:40:14.680 what do you think of spiritual items like a ouija board which people say can be used to contact

03:40:22.440 spirits so continuing with my soliloquy on that um

03:40:31.400 in my aside i don't know anyways

03:40:37.400 there are things that you can do to call attention to yourself maybe you are in a location that is

03:40:46.280 for lack of a better term, haunted, a place that is spiritually charged with negative things and

03:40:53.800 negative energies and negative place, a place that you're going to much more likely encounter 0.98

03:40:59.400 spirits that are jerks or straight up trolls or Yotnar or bad chaotic forces. 0.96

03:41:07.980 that's a thing and that's a possibility 0.99

03:41:12.440 when you actively reach out to things i think that it matters what your intent is

03:41:22.860 if you're asriel abyss and you're hanging out with other you know oddball goths and

03:41:30.700 you're trying to be shocking and reach out to demons and stuff you may be in for a surprise

03:41:37.780 when they reach back at you i think that's a real thing you know i i forget who said it but if you

03:41:47.300 stare too long into the abyss the abyss stares back if you look was that nietzsche nietzsche

03:41:55.220 yeah so if you're looking for demons you may mess around and find one

03:42:03.940 that would be ill-advised

03:42:08.180 if you're using tools to reach out to benevolent creatures

03:42:18.240 then i think that also inclines you to find that

03:42:24.120 you know what happens most of the time when people use ouija boards 0.96

03:42:28.480 some jerk just makes it say whatever they think they want it to say to creep you out or to like 0.53

03:42:37.020 hey give me all your money and oh my god it's terrifying and then people do whatever they're 0.99

03:42:43.060 going to do but there's absolutely the possibility if you go in there with the right mindset that it

03:42:50.920 works well. If you, okay, and this is another, again, might be silly, but I think it's worth

03:43:00.260 saying. Another thought exercise is to imagine yourself beyond the veil. And again, none of us

03:43:09.680 know what that's like. And I don't even pretend to. I'm just trying to use the faculties that I have

03:43:17.820 to reason. If my if my daughter, my grandson or my granddaughter, my great grandson or my

03:43:27.900 great granddaughter were performing a ritual in their home and with tears in their eyes were

03:43:34.160 reaching out to me because they love me and they want to know about me. I'm very inclined to

03:43:42.160 interact with them to the best of my capability because they are my family and I love them and I

03:43:47.300 what's best for them. If, you know, again, this is the most, if this happened and, you know,

03:43:58.200 this is successful and we have other AFA members a hundred years from now that want to reach out to

03:44:03.780 I'll tell you, go see Flavelle because they care about something that I said during this time.

03:44:09.300 And that's meaningful to them. First, I would be so very honored. It would mean a lot to

03:44:17.280 me to reach out and interact with them. If there was some goofy teenagers that are high on whippets, 0.71

03:44:25.820 you know, snorting whipped cream and stuff, and they wanted to say some goofy hocus pocus, 0.72

03:44:31.960 I really don't care. If I was mischievous and I'm like, haha, look at these kids,

03:44:38.400 maybe I'll mess with them. I don't know. I don't know what it's like. And I know this sounds really

03:44:44.600 silly obviously i'm having fun with the idea but i mean what i'm saying if you're doing something

03:44:53.480 that would attract the spirit that you want in a significant enough way that they would are likely

03:44:59.800 to care about you or what you're doing you have a much better chance of having a meaningful interaction

03:45:06.440 If you're just being silly, most people of substance wouldn't really want to have much to do with you.

03:45:18.060 If you're being deliberately dark and disturbed and provocative, maybe some forces that are also dark and disturbed want to take advantage of you in some way or hurt you in some way. 0.96

03:45:34.100 Those things happen.

03:45:36.440 I think just like where you choose to spend your time if you're advising your teenagers on what to

03:45:44.580 do. If they go to the wrong part of town at the wrong parties in the wrong places, bad things

03:45:51.400 happen. If you go to the right places and you're doing upright stuff, then you can have a reasonable

03:45:58.260 degree of confidence that, you know, you're going to have good interactions. You might learn

03:46:02.520 something and i think that as a rule of thumb is reasonable but i do think tools like that

03:46:09.800 channel your intent in a way that can make it more meaningful or more appealing or more

03:46:17.320 easy to interface with the other side what do you think is fine well i was i was going with

03:46:26.280 a little bit more i think the the i guess the foundation of of the idea itself or the or the

03:46:34.760 the the steps in which it is taken i mean ultimately what we're what we're looking at is um

03:46:44.200 hmm i mean contact with with the other side of the veil of things uh can happen and manifest

03:46:52.040 in a lot of different ways we obviously believe that because when we give gifts when we uh place

03:46:58.120 you know prayers and offerings and things of that nature we are clearly preceding that that uh energy

03:47:04.920 from being physical to being metaphysical and going out and and entering into another scope of

03:47:12.280 the environs um but one thing that really kind of i don't know again what else here really has said

03:47:18.440 is you think about stuff like this sometime and one of the things that really kind of always

03:47:22.520 i thought about in relation to uh ouija boards or what have you is the usage of an alphabet

03:47:30.520 in uh in a correlation of communication um again uh an alphabet uh symbols sigils um not the runes

03:47:41.800 but uh just the greek alphabet or the greco roman modern alphabet and utilizing that in

03:47:48.760 sense of communication and the first thing it makes me think of is um the in the runatal and

03:47:55.880 in in the in odin's rune poems there is a lot of again greater knowledge mixed in with i think

03:48:04.360 a kind of a reveal of the time and the usage and the conceptualization of of the rune's songs

03:48:13.800 the rune's songs of odin as he says but he is i know a 12th that if i see a man hung amongst the

03:48:21.480 tree i can carve the runes and blood the runes and he will he will come down and talk to me

03:48:27.240 And, you know, there's a lot of, you know, interesting things about, about Lord Odin and his connections with death in many different ways from battle to again, speaking with the dead in relation to whether it's, you know, people say it's, it's been hurled at him as insults in like, in other stories in the fighting Loki or, or in Howabarther.

03:48:53.940 But ultimately, again, the communication of symbology to reach across the veil has mystical potency.

03:49:04.540 I think even today with the idea of utilizing symbols to transfer messages beyond sight, I think that a lot of the usage of language and of writing was kept from a large proportion of people because it was understood that it had that power both to transfer messages from one person to another,

03:49:33.660 but also to transfer messages over time or through the veil, if you will.

03:49:40.840 And, you know, we do this sometimes even in our spiritual practices

03:49:44.320 when we write things down and then burn them

03:49:47.060 or place them in written word on an item that we gift over.

03:49:51.700 That's a truly interesting, you know, idea all around

03:49:56.000 that I ponder about and I find fascinating.

03:49:59.240 Um, outside of that, again, I think what, what I was here ago, they just said really does stand

03:50:06.140 and boils it down and we're making light of it because you're listening and we're hoping you're

03:50:11.060 listening. And it's, it's sometimes it's good to just punctuate things with kind of a joyous

03:50:16.320 feeling of laughter about it. And, um, but it is true. It's, it's the sense of ultimately your

03:50:22.000 intent going in on this, whether it is someone at, at this board, that's just messing with you

03:50:28.020 or the idea that you're stepping out of your bounds as being polite in a lot of ways.

03:50:35.140 You're knocking on doors that you don't need to knock on.

03:50:39.980 When you go down these roads, sometimes I think it invites, it's like a two-way door.

03:50:47.220 Sometimes it invites folly from the self to be present in the physical.

03:50:51.120 so a lot of times the people there often bring about their own sense of dread fear or just

03:50:57.920 misplacement of because they're reflecting things within themselves other times yeah they are

03:51:02.460 knocking on doors that don't need to be knocked on and probably shouldn't be doing that or at

03:51:07.880 least not doing it or you shouldn't be doing it so so disrespectfully or or even as a game

03:51:13.340 um you know when you call someone with a with a sense of of uh sincerity then yeah there's that

03:51:24.880 that is very important and this is the second time you have been the reminder of this with respect

03:51:31.840 if you imagine any of these tools as a phone I give out my number very often

03:51:41.800 And if you call me because you want spiritual help or because you're want to be because you want to have a conversation with me about something meaningful, I welcome that.

03:51:55.440 That's great. And I'm happy to have that.

03:51:58.520 If you call me in the middle of the night to prank call me and do something stupid, then, yeah, it's going to make me angry or it's going to offend me. 0.98

03:52:08.660 it's gonna you know not be taken well i think that i think that matters and on that point 0.95

03:52:20.180 what i think is really important i don't think that technology doesn't exist but i think that

03:52:27.380 we are silly when we are so presumptuous as to try to conjure things that are way beyond our means 0.98

03:52:35.860 When Wiccans or other silly, eclectic, gothic lunatics think that they can conjure gods, that's dumb. 1.00

03:52:55.320 Not only is it dumb, it's profoundly disrespectful. 1.00

03:52:59.520 to think that you can conjure you know whatever your tradition is you think you can conjure arch 0.99

03:53:07.680 angels or you can like come on you're a kid in crow makeup in mom's basement stop

03:53:20.240 and i'm not even being silly because people grown people that we interact with

03:53:26.480 feel that they do these things like it is the most meaningful thing in the world to me when i talk

03:53:36.480 about how steve mcnalen's enemies even acknowledge that the all-father odin and steve worked together

03:53:48.880 to make us a true happen the concept that the king of our gods would work with steve mcnallen

03:53:59.920 is mind-blowingly profound and that's a once in history kind of thing

03:54:11.200 to think that random people who have no have not earned reputation

03:54:16.400 who haven't earned significant status in life can just summon up gods of our folk

03:54:26.660 and somehow demand things of them is extremely disrespectful.

03:54:33.780 Yet it is a practice that a lot of people in the quote unquote pagan sphere

03:54:39.200 feel that that's an appropriate thing to do.

03:54:43.220 first. Again, I mean, to imagine you could conjure something that is vastly more powerful than you

03:54:55.000 and then command it to do stuff. At the same time, you can't even go talk to a girl that's cute

03:55:04.460 looking without being scared of rejection. You sure couldn't go to a bar and talk to some big 0.79

03:55:10.440 scary dude but you're gonna come before literal gods that's irreverent and it's stupid and it 1.00

03:55:18.760 means that you're not prepared for what you're doing whatever you do beyond the veil just like 0.99

03:55:24.520 in life be a respectful person um what is most dangerous and people talked about earlier about

03:55:34.360 dain you know worrying about the precautions to take the biggest precaution be respectful

03:55:42.520 if you don't think what you're doing is real you need to make really sure

03:55:48.920 that nobody else thinks what you're doing is real and i mean this very literally

03:55:55.720 you teach children not to point realistic looking guns at the police because the police

03:56:06.580 treat that as real and you might die when you're interacting spiritually don't do things when you're

03:56:16.520 being silly that you don't mean unless you are prepared for the appropriate response from the

03:56:23.680 other side. This is very real. We take this very seriously. I joke sometimes because I think levity 0.98

03:56:32.940 is funny and I think it's nice, but I'm deadly serious about the points that I'm making.

03:56:40.580 Svon and I take this extremely serious, and any interaction that we've had beyond the veil is

03:56:46.040 done with reverence and piety and a preparedness that when we reach out, something may very well

03:56:56.260 reach back, and we're expecting and ready for that. Don't reach out if you are not prepared

03:57:03.460 for someone or something to reach back. That's very, very serious, and I mean that.

03:57:10.020 um and i think this is the last it's not we got two questions can people communicate

03:57:19.080 it's fun and i've gotten verbose and we have made like an hour of the last two questions

03:57:25.040 don't really apologize for it i'm just noting it it's a thing um lou asks can people communicate

03:57:31.480 with the alfar and is that something that is beneficial for us to do how would we go about

03:57:38.240 this swan could you break down what kind of things constitute the alfar because i think

03:57:46.560 that's really important to the question yeah there's a lot of spectrum on the alvar as opposed

03:57:53.280 to say like the dc the dc kind of have um you know connotations in different levels there's even

03:58:01.520 the the idea of even the our senior being dsir uh the nornir being dsir in a way and again that i

03:58:10.080 think that has a lot to do with the spinning of fate and the effect of might name and luck but

03:58:18.400 that's another thing aside let's talk about the alvar the alvar have more i think a

03:58:24.480 willful manifestational role when it comes to infect affecting the environment or the uh

03:58:32.400 i would say the what is the word um uh well i guess environment is about is about it all i'm

03:58:40.400 gonna find is you know when we talk about leo salvar and we talk about them as the spirits

03:58:46.000 between him and and um and uh midgar or or the middle the midden if you will um they have a

03:58:56.480 tendency to be more or less in correlation with environmental uh concepts of light and uh you

03:59:04.800 know relegation of environmental effects oftentimes leos are seen as kind of conduits or or not

03:59:12.800 projections but like um tendrils of of willful intention from say lord frey and that is why he

03:59:22.800 is you know of of them as their lord um and there is alvar when we talk about doc alvar

03:59:32.000 the general idea is a shade or a person that once lived a mortal life and is connected to the land

03:59:40.480 oftentimes through burials through burial mounds through grave sites through battlefields um these

03:59:47.200 um spirits uh whether they're seen as descending and then re uh descending low ascending and then

03:59:55.360 descending to kind of maintain their their premise over with an area if you will they have a tendency

04:00:04.320 to be viewed as almost like ancestral guardians um whether they're protect they're not necessarily

04:00:10.720 always just protecting the folk but they're protecting the land and um you see this a lot

04:00:17.600 in relation to um sword giving to heroes or to going out and seeking the knowledge of your

04:00:25.360 ancestry or um again dealing with um new lands and and finding you know the the shades of

04:00:35.680 protection of the beings that have been there for a long time um and there's you know ways that are

04:00:43.040 communicated svarta far are always used in our stories especially in relation to the formulation

04:00:48.080 of of metallurgy and technology and the event advancement of certain things oftentimes it's

04:00:54.720 often with a mystical tone the idea is like oh you know like reagan reagan the uh the smith in the

04:01:01.120 story of sigurd is you know was said to be a taught by the dvergar or the svartalfar he was

04:01:07.360 taught by or he understands the spirits of the earth and knows their magic and knows their their

04:01:14.080 um knowledge so oftentimes i think svartalfar are kind of relegated very very either for plot

04:01:23.120 in a story uh and they have a sense of mysticism and i think are more related to material things

04:01:28.880 so let's just focus on really what i think you might be seeing is duck alpha dark elves

04:01:35.920 dunkel elven their um their relation to us can be mysterious oftentimes they are a reflection

04:01:43.360 of our own mortality so they oftentimes you know i think they unduly strike fear in people because

04:01:49.120 they oftentimes see their end as as a doom and um to variant degrees but they always seem to be

04:01:56.720 receptacles of of knowledge the ones that give things or memories or things that were lost and

04:02:03.280 then are suddenly reconnected uh because they decide to bestow upon someone who gives them

04:02:08.800 respect knowledge um but either way i mean overall dealing with alvar is about again sincerity of the

04:02:19.680 communication oftentimes it's just gift giving for the sake of but when you start to interact

04:02:26.000 that's when that communication is officially communication because until then it's it's it's

04:02:32.160 can be um you're there and i give you honor and i am thankful that you are you know protecting the

04:02:40.000 land and or the woes that you felt here that have led you to be a guardian spirit of this place like

04:02:45.600 battlefields virginia is full of them and and to to give unto them uh that due respect for

04:02:54.480 their lives that's that's the first part of it it's when it comes back that that communication

04:02:59.520 is made at that point you know when you're dealing with the alvar um oftentimes it's i find that you

04:03:07.840 can gain guidance that's much more intricate to your area to personal issues in the area or

04:03:15.120 oftentimes what i find is the communication ends up developing in a boon um where things happen

04:03:22.320 and you you are alerted if you will in a in some ways like uh strange things that happen that wake

04:03:30.960 you up in the middle of the night because you realize your barn is on fire or um that you know 0.93

04:03:37.040 there's bad things happening in the land and that and alfar don't like it and they have they know

04:03:43.680 you've tried to communicate with them so they come to you and speak to you and tell you there's

04:03:50.400 there's something bad going on there they kind of notify or bestow that knowledge 0.78

04:03:54.640 dark alfar are kind of like keepers of secrets that reveal things to you if you're deserving

04:04:02.560 or if it's necessary the old software are oftentimes you know i think oftentimes mistaken

04:04:08.720 for guardian angels and in the sense of the the light the shining beings um but i do believe that

04:04:14.560 they are capable of again doing much of what they want in the sense that they can intervene or uh

04:04:22.640 signal to you or uh take a poignant moment to affect the way you see things or perceive things

04:04:30.080 and that will lead you down another path or take a decision that you wouldn't normally take because

04:04:36.640 all of a sudden there's something kind of affirming that you should or shouldn't do something

04:04:41.600 so alvar are very tricky and they they do bridge a very close gap to lanvetier or

04:04:47.760 huddle folk or or whatever we would call like the land spirits because again

04:04:51.760 the alcohol are oftentimes connected to the land there's a lot of confusion in there it has been

04:04:57.200 that way in literature of our faith for a very long time and alvar is a title it's not um it

04:05:06.000 it's like basically saying a an out outwardly being they but they're usually of um

04:05:16.160 far more of a noble station if a thirst is is seen as something that's detrimental um

04:05:23.600 you know that is labeled as a thirst and alvar always has a connotation towards

04:05:27.680 either holding secrets revealing secrets or giving blessings at the at a much more like

04:05:34.160 local level um and i remember somebody uh a long time ago talking about the spheres of influence

04:05:41.280 you have your your own deeds and actions you have your family you have your ancestors then you have 0.99

04:05:46.000 the lanvetir and then you have the alvar and then you have the gods but if you're a jerk i mean 0.96

04:05:52.240 there were spells to prevent elf shot and things that way um the alvar is very confusing catch-all 0.95

04:06:03.200 for all kinds of spirits um because elf in some ways just means a spirit i mean

04:06:16.560 it is not incorrect to be like ah svan is a jolly elf

04:06:23.680 to a way that's not completely incorrect it's just like using uh tear do you mean

04:06:31.600 gods generally or do you mean lord tier in specific um

04:06:39.440 there are there's a spectrum of alfar not even just the three color variants if we take the

04:06:48.000 dwarves as their own thing and we just talk about different shades of alfar there's still a spectrum

04:06:57.120 Now, in one understanding, it's like a promotion to our male ancestors.

04:07:06.240 It's like a step of ascendancy for male ancestry.

04:07:11.700 There's also land spirits, which are Alphar.

04:07:15.420 Um, it is, you know, servants, soldiers of men of Frey's household are Alfar.

04:07:29.500 Um, but yes, can you reach out to them? Absolutely. You can interact with anybody.

04:07:35.820 Um, should you? Absolutely. If you're doing it respectfully and kindly, and as Fawn mentioned,

04:07:42.460 there's a boom. If you ignore them and don't care about them, then there is perhaps, you know,

04:07:48.060 negative things can happen if you're a jerk. Um, but one possibility that I want to propose, 0.99

04:07:57.660 imagine that you are a spirit of land or an exalted ancestry or one of these things,

04:08:09.100 And you live in our Western society where nobody pays you any mind for a very, very, very long time.

04:08:21.080 Imagine that it's been hundreds of years since anybody has paid you any mind.

04:08:28.580 Then imagine that one day somebody comes through that's good hearted.

04:08:35.160 That's reconnecting with the faith of their ancestors.

04:08:39.100 And that stops to give you the time of day when nobody else has talked to you and wanted to have anything to do with you for hundreds of years.

04:08:48.200 Does it work exactly like that in mythic time? Probably not.

04:08:53.480 But I think it conveys a point that one of the very, very special things about living in the time we live in.

04:09:02.780 We are spiritual pioneers in many ways.

04:09:06.000 you could be the first voice that has reached out and spoken to these spirits in a very long time.

04:09:17.980 That in and of itself could be tremendously more meaningful than somebody hundreds of years from

04:09:26.280 now when everybody's talking to spirits all the time. To be the first person to reach out and

04:09:32.620 make that connection is a powerful thing that you can do. And I think that's the case with a lot

04:09:41.080 of what we do. We are honoring gods and spirits that people have neglected for a very, very long

04:09:48.780 time. And the fact that we're reaching out, we're building Hoffs, we're fixing graves, we're

04:09:56.540 leaving offerings, we're doing these things can be very, very significant.

04:10:04.560 And the only thing we have to go by to conceptualize that is how would you feel?

04:10:12.720 And I think that we would all be, you know, moved to tears by that.

04:10:18.320 Hopefully our gods and Alphar are also very appreciative of what we're doing.

04:10:24.800 and the things I've seen in my life tell me that that's true.

04:10:33.280 Our last question of the night for a completely different thing,

04:10:37.200 completely on a different place, but I mean, it's certainly a worthy question.

04:10:44.000 Gentlemen, yet another great stream.

04:10:46.680 What can we do to help our folk in South Africa?

04:10:49.960 other than donations to the AFA South Africa Fund, any religious visa program or something to get

04:10:57.420 them here? Thank you. I don't know. That's the question. What can we do? I don't know.

04:11:05.640 Donating stuff? Absolutely, because it goes to food and they eat the food and maybe they're in

04:11:13.140 the same predicament tomorrow, but at least they got a full belly. And that sounds lame and

04:11:18.600 insufficient and it is but it is a lot better than nothing having a life that is miserable

04:11:25.640 but you got food is better than having a life that's miserable and you're hungry

04:11:31.160 um and i don't say that flip in any way i don't know the answer the only answer that i know that

04:11:38.520 i can do that helps is we can donate to their commissary and that's what we're doing um to

04:11:45.720 your question on um religious visa program stuff and refugee status and that kind of thing

04:11:53.960 it is a question very recently that we've we've got a couple of different members of leadership

04:11:59.640 that are attorneys that are looking into just what that looks like and i wouldn't be overly

04:12:06.920 hopeful but we do have some people trying to look into that that is something that

04:12:11.880 we would be very interested in helping people with if we if there was a path forward with that

04:12:17.800 that was legal and appropriate and was going to be effective to help make those people's

04:12:22.360 lives a little bit better so it is something we keep chipping away at you know trying to

04:12:28.120 figure out some kind of an answer for um we are certainly open if you have one or if anybody

04:12:35.160 listening to this program has one that they want to share with us we care so much about our brothers

04:12:41.320 and sisters there that are suffering in the way that they are and we want to help them and right

04:12:46.360 now the only way to know to do that is to help them get some groceries and have something to eat

04:12:52.760 i would love to help more but we're not sure the best ways how so if anybody does know that answer

04:12:58.200 please let us know and please do know that we are looking into it the best we know how on our end

04:13:03.240 swan do you have anything to add on that uh the only thing i could say is perhaps um

04:13:11.800 certainly inspired by um the urania folk and the volk stop that they're building uh

04:13:19.480 you know their their own neighborhoods and they're you know building sidewalks and they're you know

04:13:24.920 mowing land and building houses and things like that i think that's um i've looked at that in

04:13:30.920 inspiration to the ideas of even despite they're going forward and they're building and they're

04:13:36.280 creating order and they're creating safe spaces for their children to grow up and and all of that

04:13:40.760 so i think that's an interesting thing for folks that might be interested perhaps there's an avenue

04:13:44.840 down there that could be found for help or um donation or or what have you um uh i also have

04:13:54.360 a friend she she um moved from south africa probably about seven years ago and um she still

04:14:01.800 has contacts there um i need to reach out to her she's not super close but she's here in the states

04:14:09.000 and um perhaps i could maybe glean some more information on that um hopefully to have something

04:14:16.200 more um outside of you know simply the donation funds um i don't know that's that's a great

04:14:23.960 question especially in relation to her reasonings for coming here and why she's here and um again a

04:14:30.280 lot of her friends are still dealing with the plight there they're just recently she spoke of

04:14:37.080 a a dear friend in his 50s who um was attacked and passed away so

04:14:42.840 All right. Well, I think it's been a good conversation tonight. I know it's been kind

04:14:54.020 of all over the place. I know I've been rambling on some of these things, but like I said, a lot

04:15:00.220 of these questions open doors to things that, you know, we've wanted to get out there for a long

04:15:05.900 time so i think i think we were able to do some of that on this program um i hope y'all go away

04:15:12.940 with a little bit more complete understanding of uh ansu's rhido and kenaz um

04:15:23.500 witness fawn thank you so much for joining us your your expertise is always very much

04:15:28.620 appreciated as is your friendship and now everybody watching these guys are great some

04:15:34.220 of these comments or i i did want to say semper fi um that was thrown out there to me uh earlier

04:15:40.700 i saw that so we've got an amazing audience our our regulars who are on here so often they're such

04:15:46.540 an important part of what we do and we appreciate you guys thank you so much for tuning in and

04:15:53.340 bringing your questions your comments and your very very active uh side chat that that means a

04:16:00.300 lot we appreciate you guys i hope you guys have a great night i look forward to talking to you next

04:16:06.540 week i next wednesday is when i'm flying out for uh fray faxy i think my flight is late enough i'll

04:16:18.060 be able to do the program but if not i will set it up so someone co-hosts for me um but yeah until

04:16:27.420 next time, hail the gods, hail the folk, hail the AFA, and remember that victory never sleeps.

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Asatru Folk Assembly - August 10, 2023

8⧸9⧸23 Victory Never Sleeps, Episode 57 - ᚨᚱᚲ

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