Asatru Folk Assembly - 9⧸14⧸22 Victory Never Sleeps, Episode 10

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00:03:00.000 Hello, and thanks for joining us this week on another exciting edition of Victory Never Sleeps.

00:03:28.120 We got a treat today. Joining us is a very good friend of mine and amazing folk builder, Mr. Jason Gallagher.

00:03:38.320 Jason, thanks for joining us. How are you doing tonight?

00:03:40.740 Great. Thanks for having me. Freaking happy to be here.

00:03:44.200 Good. We're happy to have you.

00:03:45.340 um while we populate a few questions over here on the side could you give folks that may not

00:03:52.180 uh may not know you a little rundown of your experience becoming also true and how that led

00:03:59.860 you to the house true folk assembly okay well it might take a minute yeah yeah okay well um

00:04:08.260 I was never really raised real strong religious my mom raised me Catholic we um didn't go to Sunday

00:04:14.740 school or a sunday church a lot i did go to ccd during the school year or whatever and um until

00:04:21.940 about confirmation time then i was no longer going and i never really it never felt right to me it

00:04:27.620 felt strange it felt foreign to me so i just kind of felt lost so as time went on i kind of wandered

00:04:34.500 kind of dabbled in different things kind of wick up for a minute different things um then i come

00:04:40.660 across um a book called uh by um real bloom i believe it was his name yeah it was a book of

00:04:48.340 ruins they called the cookie cutter ruins they're made out of clay they're these cheap little things

00:04:52.740 you get them at like borders bookstore it was kind of like tarot at the time a friend of mine

00:04:57.940 thought i'd be good with tarot and different things so i had to pull towards it so i started

00:05:03.060 messing around with that and then the more i did that i felt a pull towards the gods i started

00:05:08.100 learning stories about them this was about 2005 before i was on the internet a lot i wasn't just

00:05:14.660 before facebook so i didn't really know it was a religion that there was people practicing it i

00:05:21.140 just thought this was like mythology and the more that i got into it the more i felt this pull

00:05:26.260 anyway it was like i could hear the gods like they were calling down the hallway

00:05:30.100 and i wanted to answer but i had this stuff in the back of my head that i wasn't ready yet to

00:05:35.540 So, you know, I didn't think I was going to go to hell with the Christian stuff.

00:05:39.440 But there was a lot of stuff that I had to get past. 1.00

00:05:41.480 So it took me another five years before I got past that.

00:05:45.140 So that was about 2010.

00:05:47.760 I was on Facebook and I was like in various Norse mythology and various pages.

00:05:52.660 And I come across other people and I found out they call themselves heathens.

00:05:57.080 And I never heard of that before.

00:05:59.480 And I didn't realize that was an actual religion and people have been practicing this.

00:06:03.520 and then of course like most people come across steve mcdalen on youtube and then that was pretty

00:06:08.720 much it after that i joined and i was brand new and i just kind of that was 2011 so i've been with

00:06:14.880 the afa since 2011 and i started folk building in 2016. and then i um started um doing the kinder

00:06:24.160 coordinator on 2018 around your time so that's kind of how i came to aussitrew and the afa and

00:06:32.640 well, let me tell you, this place is family.

00:06:34.880 This place is home.

00:06:36.500 Ossetree was the first thing that felt right to me.

00:06:39.020 All the other things, when I tried, they just didn't click.

00:06:42.780 But Ossetree right away, even when I went to my first gathering

00:06:46.880 with some less than savory people, I would never know.

00:06:50.680 But I didn't know any better or whatever.

00:06:51.840 And even then, it didn't feel weird.

00:06:54.600 You know, when we were calling on the guys, it didn't feel strange to me.

00:06:57.900 So that's it in a nutshell, I guess.

00:07:00.480 Well, good deal. I'm happy that your journey led you to us. Jason is a huge asset to the AFA,

00:07:12.080 and he has been for a long time. Matter of fact, Jason is the cornerstone that we built

00:07:18.440 Minnesota around. And now, just a few years later, we have an amazing Hoff up there to Balder.

00:07:25.600 so no it's it's been a huge asset having you having you on the team so we got some questions

00:07:30.480 over here on the side she asks uh having interest in your ancestors are there any um notable

00:07:38.080 individuals or stories you have found in your family trees let's go ahead and have you start

00:07:42.720 jason um only one you know a lot of people they have like um viking kings they're different people

00:07:49.280 that trace it back to a thousand years mine is only like the 30s but it's like a gangster

00:07:55.680 jaime weiss he was a polish gangster that was his name that he chose he white white house

00:08:02.560 white jose white kowski was a policy i'm sorry it took me a second he um he he grew up in chicago

00:08:09.120 and he was actually killed by al capone's gang that was the one guy that al capone feared i guess

00:08:13.760 you can look him up he's been portrayed on a lot of different gangster stuff or whatever

00:08:18.000 but my mom and my cousins and stuff would talk about this guy when i was younger about this

00:08:22.720 gangster guy in chicago so that that's the only thing that i have formed that i'm related to

00:08:30.560 you know i don't have anybody that's um

00:08:35.040 famous or notorious that i know about in my family tree um

00:08:38.960 i think probably the well i say that of of family tree that i know of um i have a sixth great

00:08:50.600 grandfather uh john bond that as a very young man uh fought as a captain in the in the american

00:08:57.520 revolution and he was fighting for the uh for the patriots in the carolinas and that was really

00:09:05.600 brutal fighting there that was you know a lot of fighting uh british paid indian tribes and things

00:09:11.760 that way so it was real you know tomahawks and musket butts and it was pretty brutal um

00:09:18.560 know very little about that other than there was a battle of of rayburn creek that he was a part of

00:09:24.480 but uh later in the war of 1812 he he fought again or you know was in the service again

00:09:32.160 as a colonel this time with some of his sons and they took part in building the road from the coast

00:09:39.520 all the way over to new orleans along the way um they were instrumental in in founding a part in

00:09:46.560 i guess lower central mississippi uh and there's actually a county there that's named after him

00:09:52.720 bond county and it's right next to stone county and that's kind of where a lot of my family has

00:09:57.120 been ever since about 1812 so i think that's the most i don't know most noteworthy ancestor that i

00:10:05.680 know that i have um sarah asks jason could you explain the afa kindred program and what the

00:10:13.760 requirements are yes the afa kindred program is um basically it's made up right now it's made up of

00:10:23.600 27 kindreds around the world all over medgar which is pretty amazing um basically they are

00:10:31.440 our local congregations they're a bunch of dedicated members that have come together

00:10:36.800 to form local communities and stuff many times they they organize their own events they do

00:10:42.240 charitable works and stuff um yeah uh what else would you like to know i guess

00:10:49.760 it kind of fell along there for a minute well she asked you know what uh what are

00:10:54.720 the requirements that's what was um the requirements are there's a minimum of

00:11:00.960 three afa members per kindred they they all have to be afa members and if um a member leaves the

00:11:07.680 afa they have to leave the kindred too um each kindred um donates a flag to each of the hops

00:11:17.120 so all the flags that you see hanging in the hop those are donated from the kindreds

00:11:21.760 and um i think that's some about i know there's other things i'm getting kind of lost here getting

00:11:27.440 kind of with the camera but you're fine no worries yeah that's got my back i think you can answer the

00:11:32.560 quote the parts yeah no that's the main thing for kindred requirements um the kindreds are

00:11:38.000 basically the local representation of the afa in that community and they're a uh literally a flag

00:11:44.720 for folks who are spread out away from you know away from the hoffs to have uh have a flag to

00:11:50.800 rally behind um they've really been uh influential in in making people feel like they're part of

00:11:57.600 something bigger than themselves even when our membership's very spread out every you know every

00:12:03.280 every month but certainly every year that goes by that space between our members gets smaller and

00:12:09.120 smaller we've had a lot of growth lately but those kindreds are really anchor points to help

00:12:14.400 organized local afa community uh sarah also asks could you speak a little bit about your own

00:12:20.480 awesome kindred jason the northern blood kindred yes very proud of them we um just added a member

00:12:29.040 recently we are um there are six of us we started in um october of 2016 right after the very first

00:12:36.000 fall fest we um five of us came together and um we decided that we wanted to create a family and

00:12:43.040 the northern blood we're um we're like many kindreds we're very very close close-knit family

00:12:48.640 we watch out for each other it's um just like your own family that you're related to um they've

00:12:55.600 been everything for me there they've been a great support system i don't know what i do without the

00:13:00.440 kindred they are amazing people and all the other kindreds that we have around i am very very

00:13:06.360 grateful and thankful for all the work that they do we have a lot of them that that help support

00:13:11.360 to the hops that help come out and do the different events like when you come to like

00:13:15.680 big national events or fall fest you'll see the different kindred people helping with the lunches

00:13:20.320 or they're helping with different events so they're they're our major support system

00:13:23.920 i mean we have dedicated members too that do a lot but i like to think that the they're like

00:13:28.800 one of our big ground workers like the folk builders and the gold thorns stuff

00:13:34.080 all right also from sarah githya anna and you were some of the first people to step

00:13:38.720 into baldnershoff how did that feel and nick could you throw up that picture please

00:13:46.000 it was amazing if you um hear it from anna we were giddy we were like big giddy like

00:13:52.560 giggity the whole way it was like almost two and a half hours out there for the twin cities and

00:13:58.400 each little town that we were going to we're like oh is that it is that it so it was just excitement

00:14:03.680 and that that coming in and trying to get in the door and it took a few minutes to get in

00:14:07.760 the door because the realtor they had one of those lockbox things and it was one from like 1970 with

00:14:14.000 this weird turquoise so finally we got in the door we had seen pictures and stuff because uh

00:14:19.760 the other folk builder that was here previously he's the one that set it up and met with the

00:14:24.480 realtor so we knew what we were kind of in for but when we walked in it was just amazing because

00:14:30.000 the realty of having a hop finally all the years of being in the backyard and finally having

00:14:36.560 something for our area here because we had talked about it forever and it had been kind of something

00:14:42.400 that we were looking forward to and just to finally feel it and taste it and see it and

00:14:47.880 smell the mold and yeah and all that that great stuff but to to know that hey this is the beginning

00:14:53.760 but i never thought looking ahead you know a year or two later how much dedication and work it would

00:14:59.940 take to get that place going but like i've always said i'm glad that we had to put all that work

00:15:04.120 into it if it was already pre-done it would be the same because a lot of us put our own energy into

00:15:10.360 it people came out and we did things so we built it up to our specs so i think all that extra hard

00:15:16.840 work and extra pain in the arse helped them so yeah the hard work really really shows anybody

00:15:23.160 who uh if any of you guys get the chance murdoch minnesota you should check out baldershoff it is 0.89

00:15:29.400 it's beautiful and it's not i mean it's stunningly beautiful but it's not just that it's beautiful

00:15:35.320 it's powerful when you walk in there you can really feel it there's not really a way to

00:15:39.000 describe that unless you go in there but when you walk in that sanctuary

00:15:42.680 it's a real special thing and i hope y'all get an opportunity to see that um so we got a

00:15:51.080 oh thank you so much rowdy dude just donated 50 bucks we appreciate that a lot

00:15:58.440 um he says i have no question at the moment just dropping some cash in the tip jar to show

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00:16:25.960 much appreciated also please rest assured i'm gonna do my best to answer all of these questions

00:16:30.760 before we get off tonight so you know you certainly don't have to give me a cent to get

00:16:36.120 get an answer but if you do monetize it it'll get answered first and any tips are appreciated

00:16:42.040 um we've got some more questions lined up here but i kind of wanted to ask you for the benefit

00:16:49.400 of those those i don't know for the benefit of those listening but also it's it's a really

00:16:57.640 special and interesting and

00:17:02.600 elevating and soul crushing with all the ups and downs process to go about trying to get

00:17:08.520 off somewhere and watching you know things you think would be amazing and then they fall through

00:17:13.080 and then maybe ones you don't expect turn out to be you know beyond your wildest dreams so

00:17:19.080 So it's a really interesting process. And, you know, Jason mentioned how him and Anna were some of the first ones to get to check out the property.

00:17:26.720 That's always hard for me because I'll scout these things from across the country and, you know, look at the pictures and I'll hope and I'll wish.

00:17:34.060 But I always send these guys out here to look at the potential properties first.

00:17:37.280 And I'm just sitting here, chomping at the bit, checking my phone incessantly, waiting to, you know, when are they going to send pictures?

00:17:43.100 And it's always a really exciting thing. Can you tell folks?

00:17:46.080 um you pretty much took minnesota from zero to having our third hoff can you describe that

00:17:54.880 process for folks that you know talk about wanting a hoff where they're at what does it take to go

00:18:00.120 from nothing to a hoff and then what does the responsibility of having that hoff mean once you

00:18:07.880 have it well um it's it's it's pretty amazing going from from nothing you know i was i was by

00:18:20.580 myself i was in the afa for quite a few years but it was probably five years before i even met another

00:18:25.400 afa member before i started folk building so i was trying to get local people together and it was

00:18:31.000 frustrating you know trying to do an event and people wouldn't show up so finally after i became

00:18:35.920 a folk builder after you took what had the torch handed to you from steve you um became the el

00:18:42.400 cheer of gothi i was one of the first um folk builders to come on and i remember i joke around

00:18:48.720 that it wasn't until i got a fancy title that nobody wanted to come out and play with me but

00:18:53.040 it was after that right before that i was doing a thing down in rochester minnesota with another afa

00:18:58.720 member we called it rochester true folk and i was bringing right um several afa members down with

00:19:03.760 me and then it was a couple months later i became a folk builder so i was building a foundation with

00:19:08.240 those people there was a lot of people that were starting to become new members of minnesota people

00:19:13.200 are getting really hungry because there was nothing here you know there was a couple of uni

00:19:18.240 type things going on and stuff but there was nothing good solid focus nothing afa here so

00:19:23.280 when we started doing things it was from the ground up it was brand new we had never done

00:19:28.160 study groups there had never been bloats there never been this event so we went from doing nothing

00:19:33.440 to having all these different events and all of a sudden we just it went from the bro show to

00:19:39.040 families to little kids i remember my kindred sister jessica hansen i remember her going where

00:19:44.240 are you going to have kids and i'm like no we're gonna have kids it just takes a minute there are

00:19:48.000 gonna be kids we do have members but you know she come to events and there's just guys and

00:19:52.960 whatever and finally the more and more and it like snowballs you know you that's why i always take

00:19:58.000 pictures like you said from day one pictures tell a thousand words i can sit there and talk about

00:20:02.960 bloat all day long but if i take a picture and i'm showing the families and i'm showing little kids

00:20:07.520 up on shoulders of parents while they're in bloat and they're doing algaes and they're into it

00:20:12.160 that that draws people i mean it literally snowballs you get a couple families before you

00:20:16.640 know we had like 30 or 40 people i mean i can remember having like almost 50 people in the

00:20:21.760 house here i remember coming inside from the house and i remember going what is that it was so loud

00:20:27.200 it was the kids they were running around screaming it was the most beautiful sound i'd ever heard

00:20:32.160 you know it was just amazing to go from not being able to do anything to having people

00:20:38.560 hungry wanting to come up when's the next event what are we going to do so we went and did all

00:20:42.800 that we started doing more and more stuff and as time went on we grew up got bigger here in

00:20:47.840 minnesota so as that went on that was when i think you guys had decided that hop number two

00:20:54.160 because we were originally supposed to be hop number two i remember being that midsummer 2018

00:20:59.600 at odin's hop and you and mark mccloud came up to me and you go yeah i think hop number two is

00:21:04.400 probably going to be in minnesota so as you remember we looked at five different properties

00:21:09.120 in minnesota from like february 2019 to august 2019 and it was just we were getting blocked

00:21:15.520 different people were finding out who we were different things and we needed a straw buyer or

00:21:20.000 something so we finally had a place down in new home and that place was moldier than than the

00:21:25.760 balder's hop was when we came in there i mean they there was water droplets everything so we

00:21:30.480 came real close to my kinder brother and sister ryan and jessica hansen they had put their house

00:21:36.000 up use their mortgage to get the to have that to get that property so they had an inspector come in

00:21:42.480 well the inspector came in and he he he shook his head and their bank was like no we're not gonna

00:21:48.000 give you the money for this so that we came that close and then after that we were having a hard

00:21:54.080 time finding i remember the folklore said hey we need to come up with some money real quick or find

00:21:58.880 something before it goes to somewhere else well then end up going down to down south somebody

00:22:04.960 else and whatever there's more to the story than that but basically so it went from being so we

00:22:11.360 kind of thought it was lost we were kind of not gonna lie i was a little disappointed there for

00:22:15.840 a minute but it was like two months what three months after we got doors off boom there during

00:22:21.280 the pandemic during a freaking lockdown where most people can't go to church or go anywhere

00:22:26.720 we got two hops i i yeah i mean like like my um brother go see jason port says now it's four he

00:22:34.400 used to say three hops don't lie you know i mean yeah people can sit there and say what they want

00:22:39.440 about us but when you go out and you do great things until you actually i've only been to

00:22:44.320 baller's hop and older top but until you go to hop like being at baller's hop all the time

00:22:49.440 it's such a beautiful thing the more in there just being able to have a place to do things

00:22:54.960 and to see the kids i mean you're tripping over little kids and there's little kids zinging zinging

00:22:59.040 out of you and it is such a beautiful thing to know that one day they are going to be future

00:23:04.320 elsewhere gold team key holders managers of the hop folk builders gothar that that god pull that

00:23:11.360 gold team rob stanton made out there that will stand for 100 years or more you know all that

00:23:16.720 stuff we hope as i said the afa is just going to keep snowballing from that member to that member

00:23:22.080 to that member so and now to go on to the responsibility part because yeah when we were

00:23:28.400 thinking about getting a hop we didn't realize too about how much really goes into it you know

00:23:33.520 and i'm i'm the furthest away for leadership right now i'm two hours almost two and a half hours away

00:23:38.480 so i'm lucky that we have brandy nate and ashley and jesse and all them that are like an hour hour

00:23:43.520 and a half away to get out there because like if a tree break falls down or plumbing issues and

00:23:48.480 you need to have somebody right there you need to have that support system like you talked about if

00:23:52.800 you don't have the kindreds and the dedicated members that hop ain't going to continue because

00:23:57.920 you can get that hop if you don't have the people that put in the time the energy to keep it running

00:24:03.440 and to do all the work to maintain it and believe me as you know it takes a lot to maintain and

00:24:10.240 stuff so yeah yeah no um a lot of people don't know what all goes into it and uh

00:24:20.880 it you guys do an amazing job there's a lot of work that goes into it you guys do amazing with

00:24:26.000 it some people don't know kind of the story of how that happened like you said um the plan was for

00:24:32.000 baldur's off or for our second half which would have been uh which is thor's off to have gone in

00:24:37.920 there and there's so much that goes into establishing these hoffs um

00:24:49.680 i believe very very strongly uh you know there's a lot of prayer and a lot of

00:24:55.840 approaching the gods with it and i believe that the gods and that weird plays a plays an effect

00:25:02.400 in there. You know, we want to make sure that we're really busting our hump to do everything

00:25:07.400 we can. I don't want anything to be held up by me not doing enough. But, you know, we tried so hard

00:25:14.260 to get one in Minnesota. We must have looked at five, six different places. We tried so hard,

00:25:20.280 nothing was working. The second we opened it up and said, you know, maybe it's not where it's

00:25:24.380 supposed to be. Let's look down in the Carolinas. Thorshoff came right to us, right to us at an

00:25:29.600 amazing deal and we got that but then right on the tail of that we found the the deal of the

00:25:35.860 century on Baldur's Hoff and sure enough we had that Hoff in Minnesota very very quickly

00:25:41.220 it was meant to be and it was meant to be dedicated to Balder and that worked out really cool yeah I

00:25:47.680 think we're more of a Baldur's Hoff here I really do think that you know versus the Thor's Hoff I

00:25:52.420 it would have worked good but i think all the top up here um so sarah asks you've been an amazing

00:26:00.340 folk builder what is your approach to bringing people home just being welcoming that was one

00:26:07.860 thing early on was trying to to welcome people in because i know what it's like to be on the outside

00:26:14.900 to to to show up somewhere where people have already been established you know like

00:26:19.940 like people have been together for months so you come to an event and people have known each other

00:26:24.340 for years and their kids are running around they're like cousins and you're this outsider and

00:26:27.860 it's very hard that people don't talk to you so my my approach when i first started folk building

00:26:33.300 and hosting events was to make sure people felt welcome i mean i would like go running out the

00:26:38.340 door i'd see somebody pulling up i remember somebody telling me that the first time i met

00:26:42.660 them we were doing a thing at a german restaurant he's like jason damn near tripped over the table

00:26:46.980 did a flip and came running at the door when you see me come walking in and that's what i like to

00:26:51.060 hear i like to hear people say hey i was at your event and that i felt so welcome i felt like i was

00:26:57.220 at home it wasn't it wasn't scary so what we want a friendly environment you know a homie environment

00:27:03.780 because we are family a lot of us are actually related so yep those of you guys that may not know

00:27:11.700 jason um jason is the most hospitable he's probably the most hospitable guy in the afa

00:27:20.580 everybody's always blown away by it every time i'm in that part of the country jason comes

00:27:24.900 picks me up at the airport at all hours of the night you know lets me crash at his house and

00:27:30.900 takes really good care of me and he does that to all our folks that travel through there um

00:27:36.020 Jason, specifically, and our Minnesota folk in general are some of the most hospitable people

00:27:41.840 in the AFA, and I hope you give them an opportunity to offer you some hospitality if you can.

00:27:47.880 King of Cheese asks, a question to start off. What advice do the both of you have for trying

00:27:54.880 to bring folk home? If they're confused or even resistant to the idea, it can make it difficult to

00:28:02.220 do. Jason? I start talking about the ancestors and our customs and stuff. A lot of times that

00:28:13.000 hooks people. You talk about the ancestors and your connection and stuff. Sometimes if you come

00:28:20.120 out with like the gods right away, that can be a little intimidating, especially if you got some 0.99

00:28:24.000 weird Christian in the background, you know, it can be tough. So I think sometimes there's 1.00

00:28:30.320 something that they feel familiar with, something that they can connect with right away,

00:28:35.140 a lot of times, that's a good thing, I think.

00:28:40.640 You know, I think, first, what Jason was saying a second ago is absolutely true.

00:28:46.580 Be friendly and hospitable and just be a nice human being.

00:28:51.520 I say it a lot, but because it's the right answer.

00:28:55.760 be a living billboard for what Ausatru should be live nobly be a good person be a kind person

00:29:12.220 be a caring person be somebody who's useful and helpful to your society look good and then when

00:29:18.460 people ask hey what's your secret tell them that it's the AFA and it's a relationship with your

00:29:23.040 gods. That is a huge, huge thing to bring people in. And you want to look awesome and amazing,

00:29:29.600 but you also want to look normal and not scary or deranged or, you know, you want to look good

00:29:41.040 and look like the kind of person somebody wants to be around and also like the kind of person

00:29:45.300 somebody wants to bring their family around. And the more that we have that, the more the members

00:29:51.260 come in that's the best piece of advice i have don't try to sell them don't try to force them

00:29:58.220 to believe in the gods there's no you can't intellectually convince people of the gods

00:30:04.620 that's not how it works i mean maybe you can but in my experience i haven't found that to be the

00:30:10.780 most effective what i've found to be the most effective is to be an example to share my

00:30:16.860 experience with the gods with other people and to ask them you know at most when i'm asking them

00:30:23.180 i'm not demanding that they all of a sudden change their life or believe everything i believe but

00:30:27.260 i'm asking them to participate with an open mind and an open heart if they just go before

00:30:35.740 a picture on their wall of one of their ancestors with an open mind and an open heart and they they

00:30:41.980 say a prayer something that small may make the biggest difference in their life more than that

00:30:47.340 if they you know have an altar and do that or if they get together with a group of people

00:30:51.740 and participate in bloat and they enter that circle with an open mind and an open heart and

00:30:55.980 they give it themselves and try amazing things happen um so i think that's that's probably what

00:31:03.180 i would say on that rachel says does everyone in the afa need to wear a mjolnir or are there

00:31:11.740 other pendants slash symbols that you can wear for other gods like Freya. Well, Rachel,

00:31:18.740 no, everyone doesn't need to wear a Mjolnir, but the symbolism of Mjolnir has

00:31:28.240 gone much beyond just Thor himself. It's a symbol of our faith. It's been the symbol of our faith

00:31:37.040 since the beginning of modern Ausatru.

00:31:40.140 And during the conversion period,

00:31:41.560 it was absolutely the symbol of our faith

00:31:43.940 when our people had to define,

00:31:46.000 are you Christian or are you Ausatru?

00:31:48.700 The hammer was that symbol.

00:31:50.160 So there's a power to it.

00:31:51.420 The power is in communication and recognition.

00:31:54.420 People recognize what it means.

00:31:56.280 If you have a different symbol for a different God 0.92

00:31:58.720 instead of a Mjolnir,

00:32:00.680 that doesn't clearly convey to everyone

00:32:03.460 what your message is.

00:32:05.200 they don't associate that right off, right off the bat with Alcitru. We're just getting to a day

00:32:11.720 and an age where wearing a hammer does symbolize to a lot of people. They recognize that that

00:32:17.240 means you're Alcitru. I've had that reaction from a lot of folks that I would have never thought

00:32:22.360 knew what Alcitru was. But if you were to wear, you know, something different, they'd miss the

00:32:29.420 point. As an AFA member, you can wear whatever you like, whatever you feel is the best way to

00:32:34.520 do it, but it's not going to have the same recognition that Mjolnir would have. But what

00:32:40.280 some people do, if they have a particular relationship with a specific one of our gods

00:32:45.820 that's not Thor, they'll wear their Mjolnir and then an additional piece of jewelry that

00:32:51.360 symbolizes that god they have a special relationship with. I know that a lot of devotees of Freya

00:32:58.180 you that you mentioned will wear um a little pin or i've seen it as a pendant of the uh

00:33:07.700 the lady with the mead horn and i forget what piece of um what artifact that's from but it's

00:33:14.580 a very common thing that people who want to represent freya will will have um so yeah there's

00:33:20.500 there's a lot of options but the mjolnir itself gets the point across hey i'm also true and i'm

00:33:26.020 showing the world that i'm also true king of cheese asks and another question how are you both

00:33:34.020 well i hope how are you doing jason pretty good actually doing really awesome very happy to be

00:33:43.060 here tonight and this is an exciting time to be alive we have four hops and more and more are

00:33:49.300 coming more and more of our folk are coming home every day so i'm doing freaking great

00:33:53.540 yeah thanks for asking um i'm doing i'm doing fantastic i look forward to these every week i

00:34:02.180 love it um currently the the reno bowl where i live is the worst air quality in the country

00:34:11.380 because we're getting all the the fire over in california has deposited all its smoke here so

00:34:16.580 having a little bit of trouble breathing out there today but no i'm doing great thank you for asking

00:34:21.780 I hope you're doing great as well.

00:34:26.580 Kenny asks, what do Matt and Jason do for work like regular nine to fives?

00:34:32.960 For myself, this is what I do. I do the AFA full time.

00:34:38.700 From when I wake up to when I go to bed, I'm fully devoted to making this AFA as successful as we possibly can make it.

00:34:48.440 for our folk, for our gods, and for our future. And that's what I do now full-time.

00:34:56.920 Before that, I did a lot of work as a bouncer. I was a bouncer for a little over 10 years.

00:35:03.140 I tried to find jobs to where I had the time and the flexibility to where I could do

00:35:08.280 AFA things and I could contribute to the AFA. So I was a bouncer for quite a while. Before that,

00:35:14.800 I worked with severely emotionally disturbed children.

00:35:21.500 I did that for a time.

00:35:24.560 But yeah, some other odds and ends here and there, but that's what I got.

00:35:29.540 Jason, tell folks what you do for a living.

00:35:34.240 I do this too.

00:35:35.440 It ain't quite as noble as you.

00:35:36.920 I don't quite put in the time that you do, but I do this full time.

00:35:41.640 I like to think that I'm always thinking about the AFA too.

00:35:45.520 Wake up in the middle and there it is.

00:35:48.300 Yeah, I have lived with chronic pain and a few other things.

00:35:53.360 So I kind of had to quit working and stuff.

00:35:57.660 I used to work at a retail store back in the day, do different things, whatever.

00:36:02.280 But some things happened and I had to move home with my dad or whatever he took me in.

00:36:06.900 So this is kind of what I do.

00:36:08.100 And when one door closes, another door opens.

00:36:11.480 And now I'm with the AFA all the time, constantly do this.

00:36:15.480 So this is a pretty awesome thing.

00:36:17.160 I mean, I'm happy to be doing what I'm doing.

00:36:21.180 Good deal.

00:36:23.040 James asks, Jason, will Sassy be making a guest appearance?

00:36:28.400 Probably not.

00:36:30.280 So, Nick, next best thing. 1.00

00:36:35.420 Who's a cat's ass? 0.99

00:36:38.100 there we go uh if you guys ever get to get anywhere near minnesota you need to make a 0.99

00:36:46.980 special detour to go see sass because she is a really cool dog i look forward to seeing her

00:36:51.860 every time i go uh sarah asks is the folkish family fray faxy in august of 2019 that you hosted

00:37:03.860 one of your favorite afa memories well it was but you were there so now so now i'm just kidding i

00:37:10.820 i had to give you a little sarah actually that was a great event that was the first time that i i

00:37:16.740 finally met you i had met james before at the german restaurant i think he um had come to an

00:37:22.500 event before that too but yeah that was the first time that i finally got to meet you in person and

00:37:27.140 you got to meet um anna and jessica and stuff and it was actually it was a great day that was one of

00:37:33.060 my favorite ones i'm not gonna lie you was probably my favorite out of all the events of

00:37:37.540 the year and whatever but i'll pray back to you is one of my favorites too great great event um

00:37:44.500 adolph asks at what age can a child or teenager join himself so the the official answer is once

00:37:55.140 that child is 18 years old and an adult then they can join um as a member but if they're younger

00:38:02.020 than that and their parents want to bring them to something and encourage them to be involved we

00:38:07.380 would absolutely welcome that um but to be a member in their own right they do need to be 18 years old

00:38:14.740 uh james asks jason didn't you receive a great honor from our oss harry gothe in the form of

00:38:21.780 a medal or a ring or both for something special and what was it for both actually give me a second

00:38:29.380 here i don't know if i can there's the medal right there it's not the best but um first that i got was

00:38:44.020 2017 folk builder excellence award is that is that how it's pronounced matt yeah the folk building

00:38:50.500 excellence award i received that one um in 2018 midsummer i received that for um the previous

00:39:00.420 year for building minnesota and all the great things that we did here and then um at the baller

00:39:05.860 top dedication and matt you're gonna have to talk about this more but um the afa ring of honor can

00:39:12.180 you explain the stone that is in there and what it's all about because i don't have the piece of

00:39:15.780 You want on the piece of paper, but the AFA Honor Ring has got a lot involved with it.

00:39:25.760 It's a really special one.

00:39:27.560 There's only eight of those that have been distributed so far, and those are for people that have gone above and beyond in making our AFA what it is.

00:39:45.780 And, yeah, the stone that's in there is dark blue like the AFA, and it's in the center of the trihorns in that circle on the face of it.

00:40:01.260 And that symbolizes the AFA being the center of our lives, the center that everything else revolves around.

00:40:08.280 um it's got uh got four runes on it as well as the wolf's angle wolf's angle so that we

00:40:16.940 know that we're we're in a struggle for our people and a struggle for tradition

00:40:22.180 we've got ansuz because of the inspiration of the gods um soilo for victory othala for our

00:40:32.120 celebration of our heritage and our tradition and rido our priestly rune of right action at the

00:40:38.500 right times but it's a it's a special ring and jason is a very special guy i'm very honored for

00:40:45.320 both of them and like i said i i i can just go on and on but i'm very happy and very appreciative

00:40:51.600 to be part of this team and to be part of the afa our church well we we appreciate having you you've

00:40:57.300 made a massive impact and you continue to do so. Christine says, Jason, you have been an AFA member

00:41:04.460 for a long time and have attended many AFA events. What would you say your most memorable event

00:41:11.020 you have hosted or attended and why? That would be tough. There are so many, but I'll just pick

00:41:21.120 random one i i was out at um odin's house three different times 2017 2018 and 2020 and just being

00:41:30.800 out there is just magical in itself if people have never been there you need to get out there

00:41:36.000 the the area it's at and the hop itself is just a beautiful place and um yeah

00:41:43.040 Yeah, I kind of got lost.

00:41:47.440 Sorry.

00:41:49.900 No, you're fine.

00:41:50.760 What was your favorite event and why?

00:41:52.560 Sorry, I got nervous here for a second.

00:41:55.360 Probably being out there at Odin's Hop is probably my favorite event,

00:41:59.880 meeting the different people on that part of the country.

00:42:03.060 That's the best part about going to the national events like that,

00:42:05.600 is meeting people that you normally would not get to see.

00:42:08.400 So I got to meet a lot of those folk out there,

00:42:10.360 a lot of a lot of those california people because as you know that was the flagship i mean that's

00:42:15.200 that's where it all started and whatever so i can remember being an afa member years ago and seeing

00:42:20.500 the voice when it was called the voice and seeing these people like the mark mcclouds and the

00:42:24.920 different people and thinking i'll never be able to get out there and just seeing so i looked up

00:42:29.980 to these people so to finally meet these people it was just amazing to see these people that has

00:42:34.920 been like steven mcdonald's stuff and sheila i didn't get to meet them until 2018 but just to

00:42:40.500 finally meet the heroes and people that kind of inspire you and stuff so that but also the very

00:42:46.100 first focus i just got to throw that in there was the waltin bowl people talk about your waltin

00:42:50.640 but that that's still the very first one that you did at dark because i remember just because

00:42:56.460 you know you're you're matt like right now you're like hi how you doing but all of a sudden

00:42:59.840 warden you know you could feel the energy coming up it was just like so it was like going from

00:43:06.640 talking to you all day or this laid back guy and then when you went into ritual and you pulled

00:43:12.300 this you could just feel it you felt like warden was there and so that that was probably the most

00:43:17.620 memorable and that was my first real afa big bloke too so i'd have to say that that that probably

00:43:23.920 would have to be at finally getting to meet you and mandy and don't have the tater but just me

00:43:31.280 you know that was a really really special event um i remember being at that first uh

00:43:36.800 the first fall fest and that was i mean that was that was that was in the uh the house that you

00:43:45.280 built you know that was in minnesota that was all you're doing as far as making that uh making that

00:43:50.960 happen and making that family be there and it was really neat to see that go for i mean

00:43:57.360 now we've seen that culminate in in a hof there but up to that time that was just such a special

00:44:03.760 thing to see us go from nothing to having one of our one of our flagship events there

00:44:10.080 that initial success of that was really special and that was the first

00:44:13.920 was the first real event i went to um as the alzharia goethe i got uh i became the alzharia

00:44:28.400 goethe at midsummer of that year but going to that fall fest was the first time i was kind of

00:44:35.280 on my own as the as the alzharia goethe of the afa and it was it was a really special event for me too

00:44:40.320 king of cheese asks oh speaking of Hoffs what happens when we run out of gods and goddesses

00:44:48.020 to dedicate Hoffs to do we dedicate to heroes other Aryan gods etc um you know I don't think

00:44:56.740 that's a problem how many as far as just naming I think that we have infinite amounts of

00:45:06.540 possibilities that way. As far as dedications to particular gods and goddesses, there's no rule

00:45:11.900 saying that Odin only gets one Hoth or that Thor is confined to one space. I'm sure that we'll have

00:45:21.420 many Hoths dedicated to each of our gods and goddesses. And we may have Hoths named after

00:45:27.960 other things besides. So we'll see. It'll be exciting to get there. And I think we're going

00:45:33.060 get there faster than than we ever would have dreamed uh rowdy dude maybe this is a faq uh

00:45:43.620 how does prayer work in aussitrew and different from christianity um so prayer is prayer um i think

00:45:58.180 that okay so the prayer in a christian sense is very broad there's some sects of christianity

00:46:08.180 where prayer is very regimented or you have a um like memorized prayers that you do on certain

00:46:15.540 occasions uh i'll choose not really like that except for we do have the uh um

00:46:22.180 cedrifa prayer that's the the only recorded historical instance of prayer that we have the

00:46:31.800 the words for um but in ausitru prayer is done like most people i think of faith do

00:46:41.960 you come before you know if you have the luxury or if you're in that space you can come before the

00:46:48.440 your altar at your home or at a hoff and open your heart and your soul to our gods or to your

00:46:56.700 ancestors and speak to them. Typically, and also true, that's accompanied by some kind of offering.

00:47:05.820 Maybe it's just a shot or a, you know, a stick of incense or something. Very often, it involves that.

00:47:14.780 Um, altar work very often involves lighting a candle.

00:47:19.340 Um, I could come up with a bunch of fancy reasons, but I think that fire's cool and

00:47:24.340 was kind of always something that's captivated the imagination of, of man since the very

00:47:29.700 beginning.

00:47:30.860 Um, but yeah, prayer works by communicating to the gods.

00:47:38.320 Um, I would say the, the tone is slightly different than Christianity.

00:47:48.000 Um, our gods, like in Ausatru, you, you need to be pious and reverent when you're speaking

00:47:55.840 with our gods, obviously, but you, it's also really important to have pride in your accomplishments.

00:48:05.260 um whereas in Christianity you know all the glory goes to God in Ausitru we want our gods to be

00:48:13.880 proud of us um yes give them the glory and worship that they deserve but also be proud of yourself

00:48:20.700 and your accomplishments offer that up on the altar as as something for our gods to be proud

00:48:27.720 of share your successes and that's that's what I'd say but I think that for somebody coming in

00:48:32.740 that's not used to it. It's very, very similar to how you would pray in any sincere faith that

00:48:38.880 you have. I hope that gets into the question. Ah, Brandy, Jason Gallagher, the heart and soul

00:48:46.380 of Baldershof District. Nick made this heard loud and proud. Antonio, my question is, has anybody

00:48:56.700 like African Americans or Asian Americans has ever asked ASATRU before? If so, what was the

00:49:04.940 response from them? So I'm not, I'm trying to understand the question because there's a couple

00:49:19.140 of keywords miss missing there i'm gonna do my best with what i think you're asking uh if you're

00:49:27.380 asking as any uh blacks or asians asked to be members of the afa um i'm just trying to think

00:49:41.460 for a second we have had um i think one black gentleman asked to join and he asked a couple of

00:49:51.060 times and we've told him no every time and he's been we've been very straightforward with him and

00:49:57.060 and he's been very polite and appreciated that every time um i don't believe we've had any

00:50:03.700 asians try to join the afa so i hope that i hope that gets to your question but that happens way

00:50:11.540 less often than i think uh the folks on in the universalist team would like to like to pretend

00:50:18.260 that happens we really that's something that happens very very infrequently

00:50:25.220 sierra do we allow currently incarcerated folks to become members

00:50:30.740 how about those freshly out and those who have been out for a while and have changed their outlook

00:50:36.580 on life um so we do not accept membership from folks that are currently incarcerated

00:50:47.140 a lot of reasons for that but we want to enter into this relationship

00:50:53.380 when somebody's in the place to make that choice for that to be what their their life is about

00:51:00.020 we've seen a lot of occasions where people who are incarcerated view the world one way and then

00:51:06.740 as soon as they're back out in society and their their options change their priorities change

00:51:12.580 and it doesn't really last so we want to give people the chance to

00:51:18.820 to have that consistency in their life to where they can make an informed choice that this is

00:51:24.020 something they want to be a part of and want to live with um people who are fresh out we like to

00:51:31.860 you know ask some questions and get to know those people but we would love those people as soon as

00:51:36.980 they're out to reach out and become involved with us um you know we do like to wait say wait we

00:51:46.820 those folks are welcome to come out they're welcome to join and we'd love to have them

00:51:50.580 it takes a little bit of while to gain the trust that this is a change in their life and that

00:51:57.700 they're going to stay on the outside I think certainly some cautions do there and folks that

00:52:02.980 have been out for a while and changed their life that's great love to have them some of our truly

00:52:07.620 some of our best members and some great members of leadership have had that experience in their

00:52:13.080 life, unfortunately. And they've turned out to be some of our very best people. So yeah, we

00:52:20.720 hope that answers that. But yeah, the only restriction there is we don't accept new members

00:52:27.380 that are applying while they're currently incarcerated. Nick asks, he doesn't ask. He

00:52:36.140 posts for Finn who asks, does the AFA believe in more than just gods? For example, it said people

00:52:43.120 in Iceland believe in elves, also known as hold the folk, or hidden people. Are these something?

00:52:52.140 Yes, they are something. No, we by believing in our gods, we believe in

00:52:59.900 a lot of unseen forces including land spirits or hidden folk or however you want to conceptualize

00:53:11.760 them um there's not a massive focus on that as the afa a lot but we we do try to interact with

00:53:23.720 the land spirits especially in and around our hofs and when we do ritual that's always something

00:53:29.520 that i do when i start off is i invite them to witness what we do and to be there with us

00:53:35.440 or i share appreciation if we've shared their space for an amount of time

00:53:40.160 so yeah i think that that there's many things and many entities in this world that we may can't see

00:53:46.560 on a regular basis that that exist and are very relevant to what we do in life um

00:53:53.440 Okay. I think this is all one question. Okay. Nevermind. I think that's all right. That's

00:54:09.300 a follow-up to the question I had. These questions sometimes come a little bit disjointed. I

00:54:13.340 apologize if I mangle anybody's question. Sierra asks, what disqualifies

00:54:22.500 potential applicants or those who are current members from becoming slash staying staying a

00:54:30.200 member um so this list is not exhaustive but in general if you are sincerely pursuing a belief

00:54:42.620 in Ausatru, and you are a heterosexual white person with a history that doesn't include

00:55:01.840 sexual violence, then you have the qualifications to apply to become an AFA member.

00:55:08.960 now once you remember what keeps you there it depends in general we don't like to throw away

00:55:19.040 members people go through different things in their life and we're a church we want to be there

00:55:23.780 for them and help them to succeed and so when they're going through a rough patch or you know

00:55:29.840 they're acting a little off we'd love to help them get things straightened out we certainly

00:55:33.660 don't want to throw folks away. The things that usually result in somebody being asked to leave

00:55:43.860 are if their behavior becomes consistently beyond the pale to where it takes away from everyone

00:55:49.940 else's experience. Certain amount of disruption, and this may be different from some other faiths

00:55:56.180 like Christianity that are very individual. Asatru is very much a group thing and a group

00:56:01.380 expression. And when one person is consistently a distraction and detrimental to the spiritual

00:56:10.420 well-being of other people in the group, if that can't be fixed, then we tend to part ways with

00:56:15.840 those people and hope that they come back when they're able to be a contributing member of the

00:56:20.940 group. Another thing that people may not be aware of, you're not allowed to be in the AFA if you are

00:56:26.720 in a interracial relationship that goes against our core values. I'm sure there are other things, 1.00

00:56:34.780 like I said, that's not exhaustive, but those are our typical things that

00:56:38.880 cause someone not to be eligible for membership.

00:56:44.280 Do you vet new members, asks Kenny? Yes, we do. It's not super intensive. We run a background

00:56:53.220 check on them. We try to check on their social media to make sure they're, they share in our

00:56:58.840 core values. And we run the background check to make sure that to the best of our knowledge,

00:57:03.480 they're safe to have around our families. We got kids around, we care about the safety of our

00:57:09.680 families. And we don't want any, we don't want to let bad elements around that we think pose a

00:57:16.320 pose a danger to them. And that's something we do take very seriously. And we also try to have a

00:57:21.100 conversation and make sure on our core values that we're on the same page on several things

00:57:27.320 that are really important to all of us. Nathan, Jason, what has been the biggest challenge

00:57:34.460 becoming the epitome of a folk builder and more in your time with the AFA?

00:57:39.740 challenge um trying to um get certain people moving has been my biggest challenge over the

00:57:53.640 years i i have people that are literally like 10 minutes away that that just would rather be a

00:58:00.980 facebook heathen or sit on facebook you know we got we got all these people that would rather

00:58:07.220 be online than go out

00:58:09.380 and be part of something.

00:58:11.020 It gets me that people

00:58:13.000 would not want that. Why would you not want

00:58:15.280 to go out? There are these people

00:58:17.340 that they just want to, oh, I'm a heathen, I'm this

00:58:19.240 and that. They like to rant about it

00:58:21.340 but when it comes time to go out and do great

00:58:23.380 things and build great things

00:58:24.840 and do things for our folk and for our

00:58:27.360 gods, they don't

00:58:29.300 want to do it. I've had a hard time

00:58:31.240 getting certain people. That's

00:58:33.320 been one of my big challenges and stuff

00:58:35.220 but other than that, I haven't

00:58:36.920 had a lot of issues like all the years that we've done events in minnesota i've never had any issues

00:58:42.200 when we were out in a park or somewhere where people bugged us or anything so i've been very

00:58:47.400 lucky that way and so you know i i've always tried to create a wholesome environment and

00:58:53.560 not feed the trolls if there is somebody that tries to say something or start something i i

00:58:58.600 shut it down i don't even i i don't give it any weight weight to that water or nothing i so i

00:59:04.280 think that that is a major thing but yeah there are just some people that that um just you can't

00:59:10.920 get going and i've noticed too if some people it takes time like me it took me years before i came

00:59:16.040 to aussitrew i knew it was there but i just i had to get over certain things so sometimes there are

00:59:20.840 people they'll come back years later that i was working on and folk builders know that a lot i'm

00:59:26.360 sure but yeah in minnesota different areas are different but yeah here we have a big uni problem

00:59:32.600 there's a kind of a fruit cup problem oops did i say that so yeah

00:59:39.240 lawrence donates 10 canadian dollars to us once again thank you so much lawrence we always

00:59:44.600 appreciate your your being here and your contributions um good evening matt and nice to

00:59:49.720 meet you jason you strike me as an old school salt of the earth kind of fellow and i wish

00:59:55.240 there were more authentic men like you around bless your heart and thanks for all you do for the afa

01:00:00.680 um you mentioned so something you said earlier jason on that last question was trying to get

01:00:10.200 people out and you know why wouldn't they want to come out and be part of something

01:00:14.960 and that's a phenomenon that we have to overcome with a lot of people and i'm sure there's a lot

01:00:22.160 of different reasons. We live in a time where especially I feel younger white men, but I think

01:00:34.860 younger white people in general feel very isolated, very socially isolated. I think some of that has

01:00:40.660 to do with just the social conditions of the time we live in. Some of it has to do with all of the

01:00:47.040 lockdowns, when people were reacting to their understanding of COVID-19. But even before that,

01:00:55.620 technology, which, you know, I love technology, and I think it's a great thing, but that has,

01:01:02.700 the way that's been used has been damaging on people's social skills. And I think it's easier

01:01:10.440 to sit in mom's basement and idealize about how the world should be than it is to go out there

01:01:21.080 and risk being let down or risk being embarrassed or risk failure or find out that you're not as 1.00

01:01:28.920 smart as maybe you think you are um or what's worse what we've seen with these hoffs people 0.87

01:01:36.380 are scared to succeed they'll talk all day about their hopes and their dreams and what they want

01:01:41.100 and all of a sudden when it starts to come true it's terrifying to them and fear is something

01:01:47.260 that cripples our folk these days and that's something that we're working really hard to

01:01:52.700 overcome and that i'd love to see our people be free from but that's a big challenge that that 0.87

01:01:57.900 all of us have faced since i've been involved in also true certainly um winston asks is the afa

01:02:04.860 open to outside themed fiction stories etc sure i don't know what that would be or what that would

01:02:14.060 look like i mean have discerning tastes i'm open to good fiction i'm less open to bad fiction

01:02:21.820 that would all really depend but i i love creative things like that i think that we need more

01:02:26.780 creative things and artwork which you know writing a story is is a form of artwork storytelling is

01:02:33.180 great so no i think that's great um k may asks do you like boiled peanuts matt

01:02:41.260 i love boiled peanuts and it has been years and years since i've had boiled peanuts um

01:02:48.540 but i don't like spicy boiled peanuts so it's hard for me to find non-spicy boiled peanuts i mean

01:02:55.100 it's impossible for me out here in nevada to find boiled peanuts in general i mentioned earlier

01:03:00.060 about my ancestor my grandparents who did a lot of raising me are from that area that i told you

01:03:07.340 that he settled so they're from from wiggins mississippi and my mom was actually born in

01:03:13.020 hattiesburg mississippi and so my grandpa when i was a kid his relatives down there would always

01:03:18.700 send him up just bags and bags of these boiled peanuts every year and i miss those those are

01:03:24.620 delicious. You got me hungry. GC. I'd love for us to build a hall, call it folks hall or similar,

01:03:39.860 a place near to a hof where traveling members can stay so they would not have to incur the expense 0.70

01:03:46.640 of lodging. It's an interesting idea. And it's something that, trust me, we are thinking about 0.97

01:03:55.600 those things on the back end. It's challenging when people come to visit and there's no place

01:04:00.380 to stay right around the Hoffs. Our current Hoff situation is to where no one lives, none of our

01:04:08.480 members live right in that town to open their doors for guests. So every time we have somebody

01:04:15.020 come to the hoff that wants to stay for a while that's from out of town it's always it's always

01:04:19.660 a challenge for them to have a place to stay and i hope that changes we get more of our people

01:04:24.300 living closer to the hoffs i think the idea of having you know supplemental buildings like that

01:04:31.180 where people can stay is always a really nice one i know folks often spend the night at odin's

01:04:37.180 hoff odin's hoff is kind of an exception because of where it's located but i think the idea of

01:04:43.020 space for people to stay when they come visit hoffs is something you're going to see more

01:04:48.060 develop on in the coming months and years uh brandy jason thank you there would be no balders

01:04:55.740 hoff without your dedication uh remember that time you sat in the cold as the heaters were replaced

01:05:04.780 yes i do that was on two days worth it wasn't too bad because um there there was the two guys that

01:05:11.820 that put the furnace in and they um they were entertaining so that kept me busy and um i did a

01:05:18.540 few things and i did did a little bit of work around there some stuff up so i i kept busy but

01:05:24.140 yeah that was interesting to to look at it now where we have a furnace in there and you're sitting

01:05:28.940 in there and you can see your breath and i remember when we were it was getting close to winter and

01:05:34.620 minnesota winters are nasty especially out where the hop is it's not where i live it's wide open

01:05:40.060 out there it's the prairie so they get hit really hard out there on whatever so

01:05:49.500 um

01:05:54.940 would a braggies hoff ever be an idea like a music hoff dedicated to bragging braggies hoff is

01:06:01.260 absolutely more than an idea braggies hoff is going to be our um seventh hoff so when we get

01:06:08.700 to hoff number seven it will be dedicated to braggie and i really hope that we can encourage

01:06:15.260 music and storytelling and those kind of vocal uh arts there i would love to see that and i'd

01:06:23.500 love to see that happen um and i think that that just would go hand in hand with with that hoff

01:06:29.740 and with you know a more a more structured and more prominent worship of braggie

01:06:38.700 um shovelhead I've been doing some research research since last week and I think Christ

01:06:46.680 and Odin are one in the same um I think that you're mistaken um I'm not sure what in your

01:06:55.800 research has led you to believe that um other than both were were crucified in in a way um

01:07:06.780 I think that the fundamental character of the two is very, very different. And I think that a fair reading of the source material would indicate that the fundamental character of those two persons is extremely different.

01:07:25.540 Finn, even though it's called Ausatru, is it trying to work with more gods than just the

01:07:34.700 Aesir? I've heard people saying that they don't identify as Ausatru because they work with more

01:07:40.660 gods than the Aesir. That's an interesting question. I'm curious what other gods that

01:07:50.100 they're working with, where they're not consider themselves loyal to the Aesir.

01:07:56.540 One thing that comes up a lot that I think is a linguistic problem more than anything else

01:08:03.480 is people who are concerned about the term Aesir because, but what about the Vanir?

01:08:12.060 And I think they misunderstand the Vanir and Aesir linguistics.

01:08:19.020 When the War of the Gods was resolved, the gods that we worship, that we know, that we talk about, that these people likely refer to, that are Arvanic deities, are absorbed into the Aesir and become Aesir.

01:08:35.600 And you find that in our source material a lot when they list the Aesir in the poem that we take the ordering that we're doing our hafs from, the Gilfagening, it lists the Aesir and that's why we do our hafs in the order that it is.

01:08:49.720 And on that list, you know, are Freya and Arnjord, gods that are frequently associated with the Vanir.

01:08:58.900 When he lists the Esenjord or the female, the goddesses, Freya is on that list, also known as the Vanadis, the Desir of the Vanir.

01:09:13.380 So if that's the question, no, those gods have are part of the Aesir and linguistically that term overlapped into those as well.

01:09:25.460 And that might be what you're asking. And I hope so. If not, feel free to ask a follow up question on that.

01:09:33.360 Stephen asks, where is Jason's superhero suit?

01:09:39.220 That's a good. Oh, hey.

01:09:43.380 i was told that i um cannot dress up like that at um official events i was nicely told that um 0.95

01:09:51.860 you're in leadership and you can't behave like a horse's ass which i am and i'd love to do i i'd 0.74

01:09:58.900 love to run around and if you know me if you've ever met me i'm just wacko i you do something or 0.98

01:10:05.620 say something funny i'll never let that go you'll every time i see you you're gonna hear that same

01:10:10.980 thing so yeah i like to have a little bit of fun and i like to run around and and yeah um that's

01:10:17.780 now not always very approved but maybe someday that um they will bend a little bit let me kind

01:10:23.060 of a little rock a little cape right here maybe a little you know i don't know maybe i don't know

01:10:28.660 all right

01:10:37.620 all right well kenny asks what do you guys think about the southern poverty law center label

01:10:44.500 i did some research and found a research paper saying they were politically motivated

01:10:49.460 no surprise there jason what are your thoughts yeah i think it's a joke

01:10:55.380 i think it's a joke and not even worth anything it's not even worth

01:11:00.740 looking at or giving any power to yeah i i don't even yeah that's as far as i can go with that one

01:11:07.380 i think it's um southern poverty law center it's it's unfortunate because a lot of people

01:11:17.860 are confused and believe that it's some kind of authoritative source some people think that it's

01:11:25.880 you know some kind of a government list it's not it's a private organization that is engaged in

01:11:32.360 high level name calling and there's no more technical authority to a label that they give

01:11:40.320 than me calling somebody a duty head. It's just done in a much more media exaggerated way.

01:11:51.400 It's unfortunate that it does have a real impact and it scares a lot of people. And in order for

01:11:57.640 their business model to succeed, they need to scare people. The last thing they want is for

01:12:06.200 our world to be a better place or for there to be more peace and harmony amongst people because if

01:12:11.480 there is those people are out of a job so it's self it's self-sustaining for them to inflate

01:12:21.000 ideas and numbers to scare people and very often their their labels just aren't based in any truth

01:12:28.360 if you read the article that they have about us and you read it carefully they don't accuse us

01:12:36.520 of saying or doing anything hateful you would think a hate group would certainly say or do

01:12:43.160 hateful things but according to the southern poverty law center they don't mention one

01:12:48.040 thing that we've done that's hateful um what they do in the article is say confusing things

01:12:55.640 they will name individuals that have done something hateful, and they'll throw those

01:13:01.820 names in a sentence with the AFA, while not saying that we're connected, certainly implying

01:13:08.020 that we are to other people. And all those things just aren't true. We had a reporter reach out to

01:13:14.620 the SPLC when they were doing the story for us, asking, you know, where's the dirt? What do these

01:13:19.180 people do that's hateful? And they were, you know, really hoping that they would get some dirt on us.

01:13:23.420 The SPLC told this reporter, according to the reporter, that there were three reasons that the AFA is labeled a hate group by them.

01:13:34.560 We have an archaic view of gender. 0.56

01:13:38.720 I don't know what that means to them other than we believe that. 0.87

01:13:44.980 Well, it's not that we believe. 0.89

01:13:46.240 Gender is determined by your biology.

01:13:48.480 that's a fact of mammalian existence since the dawn of time and that's that just is and everyone

01:13:58.720 agreed that it just was until about two three years ago when all of a sudden that fundamental

01:14:05.220 changed somehow in in the public consciousness um they believe number two that or we believe

01:14:13.620 number two, that there is a biological component to race. Well, how silly. Of course, there's a 0.98

01:14:20.940 biologic component to race. That's why people's children look like them. That's silly. Every 1.00

01:14:27.280 doctor, every anthropologist, everyone engaged in forensics knows that race is a thing. And every

01:14:36.580 other group of people, except for some very mentally disturbed white people, understand 0.94

01:14:42.940 that race is a thing in fact it's such a common thing that you can't escape hearing about it on 0.60

01:14:48.140 the news for two seconds you're just not allowed to talk about it in a positive way if you happen

01:14:53.340 to be a white person unfortunately um and the third one is that the afa spreads white nationalist

01:15:01.580 propaganda about a white genocide in south africa if you listen to the news about south africa and

01:15:10.940 you look into it yourself in any way. White farmers are being targeted because they're

01:15:19.500 white farmers and they're being murdered, they're being raped, and they're being depossessed 0.99

01:15:27.180 of their land. By the United Nations definitions of genocide, that that is a genocide. And 0.93

01:15:36.620 And because it's explicitly aimed at white people, it's a white genocide. 0.97

01:15:43.060 We could use different words, but it's a thing. 0.77

01:15:45.540 You can look it up and it's happening.

01:15:47.500 And our hateful acts to that are feeding poor people that live in the camps for the folks that are displaced.

01:15:54.240 And the AFA, for those of you who don't know, once a quarter, we spend all quarter generating donations. 0.89

01:16:03.140 And then once a quarter, we pay those out to the South Africa Family Relief Project in a lump sum for them to buy groceries and to feed the white farmers over there that live in some of the squatter camps. 0.73

01:16:19.220 So that's something we do. And thank you, Nick. I was just going to ask for that. 0.95

01:16:23.120 If you'd like to contribute to that, Nick just threw up that link for you guys.

01:16:27.060 But that's that's what we think of the SPLC thing.

01:16:29.680 Unfortunately, they've got infinite pockets and there's not much we can do to get them to treat us fairly or to stop lying about us.

01:16:41.780 We found in real life when people meet us, they know very quickly that what the SPLC says is wrong.

01:16:48.700 And hopefully, as the SPLC continues to misrepresent people and organizations, people will put less and less stock in what they have to say.

01:17:01.940 Sarah, for $3, thank you, Sarah, for the $3, asks, Jason, I hear you're a fan of karaoke.

01:17:08.720 What do you like to sing?

01:17:12.300 Actually, I'm not a fan of karaoke.

01:17:14.780 I don't think I've maybe done it once or twice when I've had a little bit of adult beverages in me or whatever.

01:17:25.180 There are a couple other members that can get a little carried away.

01:17:29.020 Like Joel Eastman, he does an awesome King Diamond.

01:17:32.580 I actually have a recording of him when we were out in North Dakota a few years ago at this Yule event

01:17:37.320 where I was in my cabin, like, I don't know, like half a block away,

01:17:42.280 and you can hear him at midnight doing his king diamond if no if you've never heard king diamond

01:17:47.320 before um he's a falsetto voice so basically it sounds like he has a car battery he's hooked up

01:17:52.680 to his nerds so his voice is like really really high and yeah he's an acquired taste he was in a

01:17:59.160 band called merciful fate and quite a few of our members i'm realizing are hardcore fans or whatever

01:18:05.640 so yeah but yeah i i i could if i did have a little alcohol yeah i would be known to maybe

01:18:11.960 in the right environment um get on a microphone and i i would do more break dancing than singing

01:18:17.960 i'm more of a great dancer i get my cardboard out and do that that's where i'm at but there's

01:18:25.160 video that somewhere too where i got a superhero you know break dancing you heard it here folks

01:18:31.160 uh antonio asks another question is has anyone who has a mixed race background ever questioned

01:18:39.560 themselves of who they are uh to you when they want to join the afa um yes that has happened um

01:18:50.760 yeah that's happened and unfortunately um

01:18:54.040 um some of those people are in that situation and have that uh that kind of internal questioning

01:19:02.200 that they have to do um mixed race people are are not allowed to join the astro folk assembly

01:19:09.400 because we're an ethnic faith and we're built around the things we all have in common instead

01:19:15.400 of our differences um one of the things though we're not out to run genetic tests on everybody

01:19:23.080 for purity. People know if they're white folks or not. And the standard is, if you want to be in

01:19:31.500 the AFA, that if you look white and you identify yourself as white and we identify you as white,

01:19:38.580 that's good enough. So it's not some kind of a skull measurement standard by any means.

01:19:44.380 But no, people that are half something else or something like that, no, we have had those people 0.98

01:19:49.620 try to join and we've politely told them that they need to find their uh their spiritual

01:19:55.220 home somewhere else uh jason please share with us your love for creating things by hand

01:20:02.660 for ritual and for gifts i enjoy um carving molders a lot that's one of the things i like to do

01:20:12.420 uh i find a lot of solace in carving especially i i live with um some extreme pain quite a bit and

01:20:20.820 i find when you're out there and you're you're carving you kind of get into the zone and it's

01:20:25.460 it's pretty cathartic too you um you kind of leave what you're dealing with and

01:20:32.580 and plus what i also like to is creating things to offer up into the ritual fire i like to make

01:20:38.180 different things whether it's runes or i've made um god idols and then i like to offer them up into

01:20:44.020 the fire when we have events and i also like to galder while we're doing it those are my favorite

01:20:48.340 things but i've always found it really fascinating about how our ancestors they would offer things

01:20:53.460 into the fire or they would ritually kill their their swords and they would throw it into a bog

01:20:58.420 or into a lake or or germanic tribes and they would take the enemy after a battle they would

01:21:03.620 take their their goods and other things and throw it into the bogs and offer it up to the gods so

01:21:09.700 i i find that very powerful and there's there's something pretty neat about that and to be able to

01:21:15.140 to do something like that and also the the idea behind the moldiers i i came up with that uh for

01:21:21.860 the kids i i wanted to have something to give to all our little kids so i try to make them for kids

01:21:26.900 and i started making them for the members and stuff but that's one of my favorite things and

01:21:30.980 And currently I am working on a big project right now for Baldur's House that will be done here for this weekend.

01:21:37.380 So that's all I can say. It's top secret.

01:21:40.020 We'll just have to wait and see.

01:21:42.900 All right.

01:21:43.780 Brendan asks, what is your advice for someone who is still Christian, but has been feeling the call of our gods for some time now?

01:21:52.460 In today's world, the ways of our ancestors is the only thing that makes sense.

01:21:58.760 What's your advice, Jason?

01:22:01.880 I've dealt with new applicants and stuff that were just came from Christianity.

01:22:11.960 I've also had people that they're not 100% sure.

01:22:16.500 They think that they want to become Asitru, but they just haven't felt the spiritual part yet.

01:22:22.220 So I've told people the best way, I think, is to come out to an event, to actually come out.

01:22:27.920 to if you can come to a hop to be around people to experience a ritual to be there and be in that

01:22:33.920 circle and to be there when you're calling upon the gods and the different things i think that

01:22:39.740 is a good thing and also reading up about our stuff too if you for me reading about our ancestors

01:22:46.880 about the different things things that we actually did that were the christians took over and stuff

01:22:51.340 like the christmas tree and things like that so i find that that helps sometimes too

01:22:57.140 Um, you know, I, there's lots of different things that would be advice in that situation,

01:23:07.900 but I think the question itself says something. Um,

01:23:15.440 I don't know if they're asking the question, how Christian are they still? Um,

01:23:23.840 one of our values, one of our core values, one of our noble virtues is truth.

01:23:30.160 And that starts with being honest with yourself. It is, it is scary. It can be absolutely terrifying.

01:23:38.420 It can be existentially terrifying. If you come from a place of being a devout Christian 1.00

01:23:45.540 at one point in your life, and then you choose to forsake that and go this very different route

01:23:54.400 to come home to your ancestral gods. That can be very scary, and I freely admit that.

01:24:01.040 It can also be very socially scary if you've built friendships there, if your family are 0.98

01:24:07.160 involved in the Christian church. For you to leave that is a scary prospect, but I think you need to

01:24:15.020 be honest with yourself, is the reason that you're staying because you're scared of venturing out and

01:24:21.840 trying something different. And if it is, and you acknowledge that fear is what's keeping you

01:24:27.440 Christian, then you should choose to make the courageous choice and come home to our gods.

01:24:36.160 I know that's a thousand times easier said than it is done, but it's liberating once it's done.

01:24:43.060 And that's that's absolutely something that I went through back in 2001.

01:24:52.540 It's something many of us have gone through and you got a ton of us over here that want to welcome you in and help you get situated.

01:25:01.740 My biggest advice for somebody who's sitting on the fence, get off the fence and make a choice.

01:25:07.320 make the courageous choice and what's really scary today won't be a year from now so i would

01:25:14.960 encourage that person to find find the courage within themselves to make that choice and to come

01:25:21.540 home to our gods especially once they already know it's what they should do if fear is the only thing

01:25:28.280 holding you back you owe it to yourself to your gods and to your ancestors and to your descendants

01:25:34.160 to overcome that fear. Michael asks, any thoughts on the Wotan statue in Munich? I heard it was

01:25:45.220 out there before World War I, so this is why the Tula Society was given leeway in Germany when

01:25:51.400 Hitler was in power. Yeah, it's a cool statue, and I think it's neat that it was there.

01:25:58.160 Um, I know that Munich has a long history of, of pagan traditions that lasted into a really long, uh, process into, into the Christian era.

01:26:12.400 And, uh, certainly there was a lot of Germanic revival things that went over, went on during that time.

01:26:19.880 i can't speak to 1930s politics about it but i think the statue is really is really cool and

01:26:28.680 and i do think that statue dates back from from that romantic period that was the same period

01:26:34.120 pre-world war one where uh meister widow von list was you know reintroducing our folk to our gods

01:26:41.480 and to the runes and so much of that was was developing there um not just in germany but in

01:26:47.800 Austria and all around Central Europe. So no, I think it's really neat. And I think that Munich

01:26:54.940 is a special place. I'd love to go see that someday. Rachel asks, how important is meditation

01:27:03.240 in Ausatru? Jason, what do you think? I think it is important. In fact, it's something that I need

01:27:10.660 to get into more. I have been thinking about it a lot, but I think it's very powerful and it is

01:27:16.420 important thing. I know a lot of the different goals that are doing on a daily practice and

01:27:21.880 stuff, but it's the connection or whatever. What are your thoughts?

01:27:29.840 So I think that meditation means different things to different people.

01:27:39.340 There's a lot of things that are meditative acts.

01:27:42.180 that recentering yourself spiritually is really important. I think there's a lot of people when

01:27:52.100 they think about meditation, they think about sitting in a lotus pose in silence, freeing

01:27:57.520 their mind and doing that. And that's fantastic. If you can do that, that's great. And if it if

01:28:03.220 it helps you, then by all means. One of the things I've found with myself, my mind is constantly

01:28:09.320 going. And the idea of emptying my mind or shutting it off is next to impossible for me.

01:28:15.760 That's always been a struggle. You know, my mind constantly going about all these things,

01:28:20.720 I think has proved a benefit to the AFA. But personally, it's difficult sometimes. So one

01:28:27.680 of the things that's really helpful to me when I do meditations is something with a mantra to it

01:28:36.040 or with a galder. That allows that very repetitive intonation is repetitive, familiar enough,

01:28:50.180 and you don't have to think about it to continue doing it after you've done it for a certain

01:28:55.640 amount of time. And there comes a point in your rune galder where you're no longer telling

01:29:04.020 your mouth to make the noise your mouth is just going and you're not telling it to do it you're

01:29:10.980 just stuck on that autopilot and you know biologists out there i'm not i'm not asking

01:29:18.980 this to be taken literally but that part of yourself that you want to be outside your body

01:29:25.380 and to to do things when you meditate is separated from the part of yourself that's controlling your

01:29:31.380 your speech at that point and i hope this makes sense to folks but you're almost outside of

01:29:37.220 yourself hearing the rise and fall of the intonation of the rune that you're galling

01:29:42.340 but your mind is lifted to that meditative place and that that really helps me in meditating

01:29:50.740 something that i also think is a meditative act um because it gets your mind off of whatever

01:29:59.860 whatever daily stresses that you have and focuses it on repetitive action, that's repetitive

01:30:09.320 physical action in a way that you need to be very present for. I find martial arts to be

01:30:15.940 meditative. I do Japanese jujitsu, danzenru jujitsu, and I find that to be very meditative,

01:30:26.020 or it certainly can be, depending on how intense the training is that day.

01:30:32.260 King of Cheese asks, how animist is the AFA in general? If I recall, some weapons in old

01:30:41.800 Aryan stories were given names and said to have desires and personalities. Does that survive today?

01:30:49.000 Okay. So I don't know where the boundaries and the spectrum of animism is.

01:31:03.280 We do in the AFA believe that objects or places can carry power. You can imbue them with power.

01:31:15.080 um we don't think that every rock and tree is its own spirit like a true animist would

01:31:24.440 but we do think that rocks and trees sometimes are places that are special to beings that that

01:31:30.360 are powerful that either inhabit that space or that those places and those objects serve as a

01:31:36.840 way of connecting with with those spirits um you talk about uh weapons having their own

01:31:47.720 their own life force to them in a way with their own desires and their own personalities

01:31:53.400 and that's true that's kind of a special it's a very specialized thing but yes there's there's

01:32:01.000 thing and we still do believe in that today although um a weapon like that is such a

01:32:10.120 such a distant concept for most of our people in a way to where you actually interact with it

01:32:15.880 and it's a essential part of who you are but it's you know you can do things to magically charge

01:32:22.360 something with a bit of its own spiritual gravitas. You imbue it with a certain amount

01:32:34.740 of life force. And this is all kind of esoteric to talk about. But yes, there are objects that

01:32:43.380 retain energy. And if that's passed down for a time or if that's present in ritual for a time,

01:32:50.040 It becomes powerful in and of itself. And so we do believe that's a thing. Phantasm. Odin is and

01:32:59.480 always will be my god, but I've recently dabbled in trying to venerate some Celtic gods because

01:33:04.740 it's such a significant portion of my bloodline. Is this acceptable as an ossature? It's an

01:33:17.620 interesting question. The gods of the Aryan, the Aryan peoples share a common root and

01:33:30.000 commonality. I think that it would work better and be more holistic to worship the gods of

01:33:43.880 our folk under the Norse-Germanic conception of them with that name and that personality and

01:33:51.980 that understanding, I think that would be much more congruent and more appropriate. And I think

01:33:57.920 that you wouldn't be missing out on anything that our cultural brothers are practicing in

01:34:07.920 any sort of a Celtic faith. It gets tricky because I don't think there's a one-for-one

01:34:16.000 exchange of who's who when you compare Arian pantheons. I think there absolutely is sometimes,

01:34:23.900 but I think that can get a little bit trickier. But I think that if you worship the Aesir, 0.59

01:34:30.420 you will give worship to all the powers that need to be worshipped by our folk. And I think that

01:34:37.600 And that's what I would advise you in that way.

01:34:45.600 Tracy asks, question, does it make a man less masculine if they connect more with the DCer?

01:34:56.600 No, I don't think so.

01:34:57.600 I think what would make him less masculine is depends on how he acts for him to.

01:35:06.600 um connect with uh that can mean a lot of different things um 0.57

01:35:14.600 yeah that can mean a lot of different things but I don't think connecting with your female ancestors

01:35:21.800 makes you less masculine I don't think having a good relationship with your grandmother

01:35:26.600 takes away from from your manliness um and I think that shouldn't be concerning to someone

01:35:32.840 I think, you know, an example is when you come to someone for counseling, in spiritual counseling or otherwise, there's some things and some people, there's some men who would are much more comfortable talking to another man about certain problems, be they health problems, be they emotional problems, be they counseling or spiritual advice.

01:35:54.440 But there's other guys that are depending on their circumstances, the exact opposite.

01:35:59.380 They function much better talking to a woman about their problems.

01:36:03.800 They can feel like they're not in a competition with them.

01:36:07.760 They can feel much more at ease.

01:36:10.020 They can get a loving and compassionate energy that they may not get the same way from a man who's counseling them.

01:36:17.500 So that's all a matter of circumstance and personality.

01:36:19.900 But I don't think that takes away from masculinity at all.

01:36:24.440 Timmy asks, Jason, how does it feel being part of the few, the proud, the Folk Builder of the Year gang?

01:36:36.540 Timmy, the cracker.

01:36:38.680 Yeah.

01:36:39.920 You're part of the cool kids now.

01:36:42.200 It is pretty awesome.

01:36:44.000 The more and more I think about that, it just blew me away when I was given that award.

01:36:51.020 I am just like I said I'm so honored to have found people because like many of us I was lost

01:36:58.420 I was wandering spiritually lost and when you finally do come home and you find the people and

01:37:04.880 over these years like many of us we built relationships going to events and a lot of

01:37:10.860 you like you Matt are like close family now and a lot of us are related but going and doing all

01:37:16.660 that it's been a really awesome thing and it's like an extended family so being part of this

01:37:23.320 and to be honest those are the only awards I've ever won in my life I've never been into sports

01:37:29.220 much and I'm you know so I don't have any trophies I don't have nothing so it meant even more to me

01:37:35.220 but it was a total surprise because like most of us I didn't get into this for me for my name to

01:37:41.380 to make big things i did this to help build up our people the afa our area so it was a selfless

01:37:49.860 thing so to me it's beautiful it really is it's something that that i don't think that caught me

01:37:57.060 off guard i think totally so yeah sorry no it's all good it's all good um sarah asks matt i've

01:38:06.820 noticed that you never wear the same suit combination to events and over the years

01:38:12.260 you've gotten braver in your choice of colors uh would you care to comment on that sure um

01:38:21.780 so first the

01:38:27.700 trying to think where to start on it um

01:38:29.220 when i started out you know i used to dress like a slob and i'd go to stuff when i first my first

01:38:38.420 couple of afa events until i had that conversation with brad that i talked about before

01:38:44.660 to where it just the realization you know if i would dress nicely for a special occasion for

01:38:53.460 for a wedding for a funeral for a family reunion for you know something that way why would i not

01:39:02.260 dress when i'm approaching our gods and you know if i would dress a certain way if i was going to

01:39:11.140 a christian church or when i was jehovah's witness if i went to the kingdom hall

01:39:16.100 why are our gods not worthy of that same level of of piety and caring for yourself so i started

01:39:22.020 trying to up my up my dressing game at that point. And it's absolutely about reverence,

01:39:30.180 it's about piety, but something happens when you dress good, and you look good, you feel good.

01:39:35.060 And so it's become important to me to really try to do that and step it up

01:39:40.820 over time. And that's built a lot of self confidence.

01:39:44.740 um and as the self-confidence builds and as i feel proud of myself and good when i'm when i'm

01:39:53.040 dressed a certain way um i think that's where some of the the more bold fashion choices come in

01:39:59.100 because you know you can't pull it off if you're dressed loud but you you you're shying away and

01:40:06.360 looking at the floor and you don't have the self-confidence so i think you know it's a it's

01:40:11.600 it synergizes. Dressing good, looking good, makes you feel good, makes you hold yourself a certain

01:40:18.840 way, which makes you look better. And the better that is, the more self-confident you are,

01:40:24.780 the, I don't know, the more fun it is to dress up and get excited about the stuff you're going to

01:40:31.460 wear. And especially being the Elshary Gothi now, it's my job. I'm literally the spokesperson for

01:40:38.300 the AFA, I represent the AFA before the gods, and I represent the gods before our folk.

01:40:45.460 It's an absolute must that I try really hard to look my best and look a way that that represents

01:40:52.140 our folk and our gods the best that I can. So thank you for noticing. And yeah, I enjoy dressing

01:40:59.420 up and finding things that I think look good, look dignified. And yeah, I like doing that a lot.

01:41:08.300 I've got a question from, cool, another question from, or a statement from Lawrence with another 10 Canadian dollars. Thank you again, Lawrence.

01:41:23.740 to any Christians watching who are feeling the call to explore Alcetru. I respectfully

01:41:29.540 encourage you to research the origins of Judeo-Christianity. You will be surprised at

01:41:36.160 what you discover. The work of Acharya S, aka Dr. D.M. Murdoch, helped me drop Christianity

01:41:47.240 forever, but there are many others. So I think that's definitely some good advice. 1.00

01:41:53.160 The more you research and the more you look into things, the more clear some things become.

01:42:02.100 We've got four more questions. If you guys got questions out there or things you want to hear

01:42:06.280 me and Jason talk about, please go ahead and throw those in there. We'll stick around as long

01:42:11.580 as we've got questions. Been on for about an hour and a half. And as of right now, we've got four

01:42:16.880 more questions in the lineup. Kenny, I know it's been brought up already in episodes.

01:42:23.480 What is the AFA doing about bringing bluegrass music into the faith? I'm down for that.

01:42:28.980 The AFA is doing nothing because I don't have any bluegrass skills. I have nothing to contribute to

01:42:33.100 that other than I'd love to see it happen. And I'd love to push forward. You know, as that happens,

01:42:38.740 I'd love to encourage and broadcast that kind of stuff. So if you're if you've got skills in that

01:42:46.520 regard please talk to some of our folks that do and let's get something together i would

01:42:51.960 it's always been a dream of mine i would love some house true bluegrass i think that would be

01:42:55.760 amazing yeah that'd be awesome yeah i was gonna say what do you think you're you you like your

01:43:00.420 music jason yeah i i tend to like the heavier music but yes i think that would be cool especially

01:43:06.680 in a folk setting awesome true bluegrass would be cool because it's pretty awesome just when a

01:43:12.180 member picks up a guitar and sings or plays the drums so anything like that would be awesome

01:43:17.500 now out here at odenshoff we have um i think they did something last month but i was at

01:43:22.800 fall fest hopefully here this weekend when i go up there for uh winter finding both folks will be

01:43:29.840 around we have one member that plays a banjo and another member that plays a guitar pretty well and

01:43:34.600 i'd love to see how that that works out there um finn do afa members do or have considered learning

01:43:44.520 uh gleema scandinavian martial arts wrestling which i heard is partly based on viking combat

01:43:52.280 um we've got a lot of members so i don't think i could confidently say that no one does but i don't

01:44:00.600 know of anybody that does that um it's tricky i know a lot of folks especially you know in our

01:44:10.040 circles want to do something martial and want to do some form of martial arts but are hesitant to

01:44:17.240 do an uh culturally asian martial art and unfortunately european martial arts schools

01:44:26.040 that just wasn't a thing for a very long time um so attempting to reconstruct some very old

01:44:34.120 european fighting styles i think that that's probably really cool for historical interest

01:44:39.480 and i'm i'm not going to say that's that has no worth or value but the asian martial arts systems

01:44:47.240 have been developed and used in very effective ways for a really long time so if your point is

01:44:53.880 to do something that's effective for handling yourself in in a self-defense or a fight situation

01:45:00.680 in real life i think that those traditions have more practicality to you right now than some of the

01:45:08.760 the newer newer newly resurrected um supposed ancient european martial arts schools

01:45:17.080 but i don't know anybody who does do uh gleema so i'm not sure i can't really speak educatedly

01:45:22.200 on it jason do you know anybody who does gleema i don't know anybody but i've known a few people

01:45:26.760 that were interested and have brought it up and brought us some links to stuff and read it but i

01:45:32.440 haven't actually seen people physically practicing it or organizing events for it but that would be

01:45:38.840 something you need to see yeah yeah i think it'd be fun certainly i think it'd be fun um cory when

01:45:46.280 you look at society do you ever think that loki is behind all of the chaos or at least enjoying it

01:45:53.720 or is he still tied up with venom being dripped on him so

01:46:00.840 one thing we've explained this on past episodes and i know it's a it's a difficult concept but

01:46:07.160 we believe very very much that mythic time and linear or historical time are two very different

01:46:16.840 things so mythic time is very often cyclical and overlapping and i know that that's hard to

01:46:29.880 understand if it's not something that you're used to. But we believe that the events in our myth

01:46:40.740 cycle have happened, will happen, and are happening simultaneously. So yes, it's hard to say. I think

01:46:58.280 that Loki being a force of chaos like he is, I'm sure that he does find chaos to be pleasing to

01:47:07.660 him. And I think that he finds, in a lot of ways, detriment of our folk to be pleasing to him.

01:47:15.680 I honestly have to say that I haven't given much thought to things that Loki likes or doesn't like

01:47:22.980 because we stand in opposition to Loki and his.

01:47:29.560 I don't think that he is behind all of the chaos or responsible for the chaos.

01:47:35.260 I think there's plenty of malevolent forces causing chaos,

01:47:39.040 and the vast majority of those aren't spiritual entities.

01:47:46.800 I think chaos is a natural state that exists if you don't stay beyond it

01:47:52.640 and stay ahead of it. That's why I think entropy is one of the biggest problems that our gods and

01:47:59.960 our folk try to overcome. I think entropy is that force that drags order down into chaos perpetually

01:48:06.660 unless we're striving and trying to do, trying to succeed, trying to move forward, trying to move

01:48:14.080 upward. As soon as we stop, we get pulled down and we get pulled back. And so I think that there's a

01:48:21.740 lot going on that makes the world chaotic. And I don't think it's all, you know, some grand Loki

01:48:27.800 plan. I don't think it quite works like that. Our understanding of the world isn't quite as binary

01:48:35.380 as, you know, our gods and then Loki being, you know, our version of the devil. It's not quite

01:48:41.800 that simple. Freya asks, how does the AFA view Freya and Frigga being the same? I'm a Frigga

01:48:52.380 devotee. Through my practice, I think I've found that Freya is for short-term relationships and 0.92

01:48:59.460 Frigga is long-term. Your thoughts? I don't think that Freya and Frigga are the same.

01:49:07.500 um i think that they have very different energy on those kind of things

01:49:14.700 um i some of this is fundamentally uh how the afa views our gods compared to perhaps

01:49:27.300 how some other folks do um the people that i've heard that think that uh frigga and freya are the

01:49:36.420 same, tend to do that from a linguistic or a scholarly background, because some ancient

01:49:44.080 texts merge the two, or some linguistic variant. And that's not how I know our gods and goddesses.

01:49:55.060 That's helpful, and that gives us a place to start. But building relationships with our gods

01:50:02.740 and goddesses through worship over time and through being in that gift cycle

01:50:08.260 you get to interact with them in a in a personal way um

01:50:16.100 they're not a math problem to solve with enough you know nerd study you're going to somehow

01:50:22.740 unravel the mystery it's something that you build a relationship through the exchange of gifts and

01:50:29.060 the exchange of energy. I think that Freya tends to be more for, so there's a concept in

01:50:42.980 Aryan mythos in general of horse goddesses and of cow goddesses. And meaning the horse goddess

01:50:52.820 is more more wild and untamed and uh represents the unmarried women and women in a in a more raw

01:51:02.740 uh elemental context often a more sexual context and the the cow goddesses are goddesses that are 0.60

01:51:11.800 more about the home and the hearth and the raising of children and women in relationships as as wife 0.66

01:51:19.240 as mother. And I think you see Freya and Frigga as exemplars of this dichotomy.

01:51:30.280 But I don't think that those things don't overlap. And I don't believe that our gods

01:51:34.860 or our goddesses are one dimensional. Thor's not just strong. He's other stuff too. Freya's

01:51:45.120 not just sex and magic she's other things as well so um i i don't view our gods as archetypes and i

01:51:52.480 don't view our gods as the result of linguistics i view our gods as actual spirit persons and one

01:51:59.040 thing that you know i will say i understand that i understand that if we go back there are undoubtedly

01:52:08.960 If we take all of the continental sources, all of the British Isles sources, all of the Scandinavian sources, I'm certain that there are some deities and some personages that overlap or that are a confusion of one or the other.

01:52:26.460 But when practicing religion piously, I would much rather err on the side of worshiping two different aspects of a God as two separate things than mistakenly assuming that they're the same God and only worshiping one and excluding the other.

01:52:48.320 at the end of the day if one of our gods happens to be worshipped under two different names

01:52:56.260 in two different ways they still get that worship and that relationship still exists

01:53:01.860 if I make the mistake and only worship the one and not the other if I'm wrong one of our gods

01:53:10.800 doesn't get that worship that they're entitled to and doesn't get that love and worship from

01:53:16.540 from their folk. And I would never want that to happen. I think it would be impious. So that's

01:53:21.700 why we tend to err on the side of always assuming that they're distinct and different, even when

01:53:27.840 sometimes that may or may not be the case. So a reminder to plug Winter Nights. Winter Nights

01:53:34.820 coming up in one month. Nick, could you throw up the Winter Nights information and dates?

01:53:42.800 anybody who can make it to winter nights winter nights in ohio this year for the first time

01:53:48.800 it's going to be at a new place we're going to see a lot of new faces we haven't seen before

01:53:53.560 um jason how do we get you out to winter nights sometime

01:53:57.720 i would love to go that's my thing it's just um it's um right after fall fest and fall fest

01:54:06.800 always takes me two or three weeks to recover and this year it's been a month i'm still so

01:54:12.560 So I would like to, let's say next year.

01:54:15.620 Let's just say that.

01:54:17.040 All right.

01:54:17.440 You guys heard it here, folks.

01:54:19.600 Remind Jason that next year because we would love to have him out to winter nights.

01:54:23.800 I've always wanted to go.

01:54:24.940 That's been one of my to-go-to events.

01:54:27.560 So winter nights, for those that may not know, that's the second national event we started doing for the longest time.

01:54:35.500 Okay.

01:54:36.440 Take that back.

01:54:37.440 the AFA originally was doing Winter Nights in the Motherlode was the event the big AFA event

01:54:44.280 and that happened for a few years before they did Midsummer in the Sierras and Midsummer in

01:54:51.420 Summer in the Sierras was always our big national event for a number of years after that well when

01:54:57.600 the AFA really expanded you know we've had members around the world and across the country forever

01:55:03.420 But when we had those insignificant numbers to where we really had a strong presence on the East Coast, we started doing winter nights in 2012, I'm guessing I could.

01:55:24.720 No, I think 2011.

01:55:27.560 I could be wrong on that regardless.

01:55:30.560 It's our it's the second one that we did.

01:55:32.800 now we have now we have several every year we have many national events but this was kind of

01:55:37.520 you know our second oldest national event that we've held so it's always special and it develops

01:55:42.800 its own you know its own personalities to it over the years um if you guys are interested in

01:55:49.360 attending that if you're a member get with your folk builder and they'll get you all set up if

01:55:52.880 you're not a member and you want to attend and check it out and see what it's about also reach

01:55:57.360 out to one of the folk builders in the area and see about being a guest and coming and seeing

01:56:02.000 what we're all about we'd love to see you guys there uh winston jason being from minnesota

01:56:08.540 are you a bfg fan or aware of their music

01:56:13.680 bfg

01:56:17.180 who would that be i'm having can he elaborate on that i don't know winston can you elaborate on

01:56:27.760 that i i can't help this in minnesota i would have to think i'm sure it's something very obvious

01:56:37.200 but offhand i i can't think of what that would be so i would have to say i don't know

01:56:43.600 but yeah from minnesota i born and raised top potato and all that good stuff yep yep

01:56:50.000 so um i'm nick also reminds me to plug feast of the iron er in oklahoma this year

01:56:58.880 uh nick can you throw up the dates and registration information for that this

01:57:03.680 will be the second year the afa is going all out for feast of the iron er event um

01:57:10.240 it's a really special time it's really good event it's a time that we can honor

01:57:14.320 our warriors and we can honor our veterans. So it's really neat that way. It was a very nice

01:57:21.340 event last year. This is something that folk builders Nathan Erlinson and Melissa Mills are

01:57:28.080 putting on. I'm looking forward to it. I'm going to be out there. I believe Steve and Sheila plan

01:57:33.800 on being out there as well. We'd love to see you guys. If y'all are anywhere close, see if you can

01:57:39.280 make that happen. If you guys aren't close, we'd still love to see you make it happen.

01:57:44.320 Okay, so Sarah wants to make a note that Gleema will apparently be a part of Frayer's Harvest Fest in Idaho.

01:57:59.640 So there you go.

01:58:00.780 If you've got questions you want to know about or see or participate in some Gleema,

01:58:06.960 Frayer's Harvest Fest, which will feature a feast.

01:58:12.640 So there you go.

01:58:14.320 um yeah so no nick spelling it two different ways too don't put that on me those of you who listen

01:58:20.800 to this later on my screen it's spelled two different ways anyways it's going to be fantastic

01:58:25.840 that's a really nice thing up in idaho if you can make it um i would love to be there i'm not sure

01:58:31.840 if i'll be able to attend or not this year but that's nice and it's in a very beautiful part

01:58:37.920 of the country with some of some of our great members up there that would love to see you

01:58:41.680 um matthew gordon any tips on dealing with depression and or feeling lost i know odin

01:58:52.320 himself battled with depression uh jason you have any any advice on on depression or feeling lost

01:58:59.360 lean on your folk your folk and your gods that is what helps talking to your folk your people that

01:59:08.760 are your family i mean having your gods and your ancestors to lean on is a good thing but having

01:59:14.340 actual physical people to talk to and a lot of people have experienced similar things so for me

01:59:20.820 when i'm feeling down or i'm having issues or something just having somebody else to talk to

01:59:25.740 i mean yeah it is great having all those ancestors backing you and all that and having your gods and

01:59:31.960 stuff but at the end of the day having a physical person knowing that they're there and to talk to

01:59:37.700 to unload to or to have them unload on to you that really helps,

01:59:42.840 especially people that have PTSD.

01:59:44.320 I know that's a big thing just to have somebody listen, just to be there.

01:59:52.460 Yeah, that's a lot, a lot.

01:59:56.460 Well, okay, a couple of things.

01:59:57.820 First, don't feel alone in a number of senses.

02:00:02.820 But I can tell you as somebody who's been a go-thee for a lot of years,

02:00:07.600 for a decade or more now yeah a decade now this year i believe um

02:00:15.840 we get a lot of folks that have experienced depression in their life um

02:00:23.200 that skyrocketed during all of the reaction to covet 19 and the isolation from that

02:00:30.560 it's especially bad amongst our young people you're not alone um and what jason said reach

02:00:39.500 out to your folk it's and i get this as much as anybody else when you're depressed you want to

02:00:46.760 feel lazy you don't want to leave your house you don't want to see anybody you just want to curl

02:00:51.980 up in a ball by yourself. That is the worst thing you can do. At the least, get out of your house,

02:01:01.180 get out, go for a walk in your neighborhood, or even better if you can, out in the woods.

02:01:06.600 Do that once a day. Make sure you're eating good. Make sure you're getting protein in.

02:01:12.320 Make sure you're getting your vitamin D in. That's also very helpful, especially if it has

02:01:18.140 any kind of a seasonal aspect to it. And get with your friends, get with your AFA family.

02:01:27.360 Go to things, participate with things, be around people. That's such a huge asset. And it's always

02:01:36.280 very hard for me in my position to watch when people go through hard times and they pull away

02:01:41.160 from their folk, that's the precise time they need to pull closer. Don't be alone. And if you're

02:01:48.600 a member of the AFA, you don't ever have to be alone. You've always got people out here that

02:01:52.360 care about you. So that's what I'd say. And awesome. Thank you for putting that link up there, Nick.

02:02:01.360 Kenny, does the AFA have a decent amount of members in Nevada? Is there a chapter here?

02:02:08.260 what are the chances of making one? Funny you should ask. I'm currently talking to you from

02:02:15.400 Reno, Nevada. I don't know what part of the state you're in. We do have members down in the Vegas

02:02:21.160 area. We have members out towards Elko. We have a member in Lovelock. And we have, you know,

02:02:28.660 we have a number of members here in Reno. Every month I have a dinner here that I host at my

02:02:35.880 house for Northern Nevada members or any Nevada members that can make it. Last time we had a guy

02:02:41.260 up here for hot August nights from down in the Vegas area, and it was great to get a chance to

02:02:45.740 meet him and spend some time with him. But yeah, Nevada is a good place to be, obviously true,

02:02:52.360 especially if you're in Northern Nevada. That means you're very close driving distance to

02:02:56.520 going over to Odenshof. It's about two and a half hours for me, and people very often are able to

02:03:03.480 share a ride or, you know, do whatever we need to, to help make that happen too. So yeah, please reach

02:03:10.320 out. Um, okay. So something else, Nick's good at reminding me on plugging stuff. Um, next big

02:03:20.460 project up for the AFA is Frazehoff. Um, Frazehoff will be our fifth Hoff. Frazehoff will almost

02:03:31.400 100 likely be in ohio the only other contender to that is maybe far western pennsylvania but

02:03:37.800 it's really looking like it's going to be in ohio um we got a couple of things we need to get done

02:03:45.000 to get there a couple economic things we got to hit so we really do need donations to make that

02:03:50.120 a reality your generosity has been what has allowed us to get the first four hops that we have

02:03:56.600 in such quick succession. Your continued generosity was what will make Frazehoff a dream

02:04:03.280 that will come true. And we're looking very forward to that. We're very excited about it.

02:04:09.280 We've got amazing people in that part of the country, and that's just primed for success.

02:04:14.780 So help us make Frazehoff happen. 1.00

02:04:17.980 What are the AFA's perspectives on a Dumbla? And do they take it literally? 0.99

02:04:32.940 So as a general rule in our myths, the AFA, our myths are absolutely truth.

02:04:42.620 They're not literal truth. They're mythic truth. They tell us true things.

02:04:47.980 they tell us true things in a poetic way in a way that that we can understand and wrap our mind

02:04:53.820 around um we don't but for with a domla for example we don't believe there's just a giant

02:05:01.900 floating cow that gives birth to life but we do believe in what that image conveys to us about

02:05:11.580 that source of of life force and how that relates and has similarities to the cow and all of the

02:05:20.300 life force that we've always gotten as arian people from cows um our myths are a poetic way

02:05:32.940 of explore explaining truth our myths about thor um thor's not a huge buff guy that's got a red

02:05:43.260 beard the image of a huge buff guy with a red beard tells us something of the power and the

02:05:49.420 might and the uh the the manliness of thor it speaks of thor but to think that our gods and

02:05:58.700 spirit beings are contained and confined to a physical form in that way is is limiting in a

02:06:07.180 way that i don't think our ancestors felt and that we certainly don't feel today so um we do believe

02:06:13.660 that our myths are are absolutely truth but they're not um they're not meant to be taken

02:06:19.340 literally that was never their point and that was wasn't the point of most indigenous faiths that's

02:06:25.260 kind of a unique phenomenon amongst uh abrahamic faiths um rowdy dude is there a way to honor all

02:06:38.540 the gods at once as far as worship and ritual goes absolutely jason what do you think on on

02:06:44.220 how you can honor all the gods at once during ritual um focusing on all of them

02:06:51.340 saying their names um doing different things i've seen where events where they rattle off

02:07:00.460 different guys names or they do different things for attributes towards the gods or

02:07:04.220 different things i don't know what are your thoughts as far as i got of course you can um

02:07:12.300 yeah of course you can the most simplest is saying hail the aesir or hail the gods

02:07:20.700 um mention them during ritual mention them by name mention them collectively

02:07:29.180 um but i absolutely think you can do that most of our bloats are dedicated to one particular god

02:07:37.740 sometimes two gods that are that are connected in some powerful way um

02:07:42.540 Um, but something I very commonly do during my Yule bloat is it's for, it's for all the

02:07:50.080 gods.

02:07:50.820 When I do a Yule bloat, it's a celebration between the Aesir and our folk.

02:07:56.500 And we celebrate all together as one, as one big family.

02:07:59.740 And, and we go around and hail the different gods and goddesses of our folk and, and share

02:08:06.660 that, that celebration with all of them.

02:08:08.840 I think that's absolutely something you can do. 0.91

02:08:10.820 And I would encourage you to do so if you can't pick or choose or if you're new and you're not that familiar, you can just bloat to the A-Sier as a whole. 0.71

02:08:20.860 And I think that would be taken very well.

02:08:27.860 So back to Winston's Minnesota band question.

02:08:33.020 Bound for Glory is who he's asking about.

02:08:35.120 What do you think about Bound for Glory?

02:08:36.920 Are you a fan?

02:08:37.680 i have heard of them yes um that's just um i'm i've always been more of a metal guy

02:08:44.960 and whatever so i haven't been much into the the the punk or the the riac or what they call it

02:08:51.540 type music i um i guess um i would be up for maybe listening to them but i'm i'm more into

02:09:01.780 the metal i'm more into the cookie monster as you say matt and thanks a lot now because

02:09:06.440 every time i hear cookie cookie monster but yeah no i i know people that know them and i've heard

02:09:14.220 great things about them but that's just a different type of thing that i just have not gotten into so

02:09:19.260 that's all i got for that but thanks for um answering the one that guessed that fair enough

02:09:25.580 so i got one last thing to plug here and then we're about fresh out of questions so if you guys

02:09:31.300 have anything you want to get answered please go ahead and put it out there for us we'd be happy to

02:09:36.220 get mine and Jason's take on it. Go ahead and get those out. In the meantime, I'm going to encourage

02:09:44.200 you guys to go to your different Hoff sites. So recently, folk builder Jessica Lambert has put a

02:09:53.220 lot of love and a lot of time into making some really beautiful Hoff sites. The AFA has recently

02:09:59.320 gotten so big that we've separated our districts out to hoff districts so we have four hoffs so

02:10:06.840 at present there's four districts that the afa is divided up into um because putting out you know

02:10:15.080 putting out a newsletter for the entire afa was getting where it was taking hundreds of pages

02:10:20.600 so uh we've got the the odenshoff district centered around odenshoff but with a lot of

02:10:27.320 those surrounding western states we've got thorshoff over there on the east coast pretty much

02:10:34.040 everything north of north of georgia along that coast is in the thorshoff district and some states

02:10:42.440 inland as well we've got baldershoff district um kind of that northern half of the middle of

02:10:49.240 the country there also including some canadian provinces and we've got our newest hoff district

02:10:55.160 um incorporating most of the deep south there um and over into texas in the new york soft district

02:11:04.300 four sites for our four hoffs if you look nick's got the addresses up if you go to them one of the

02:11:11.180 best things about it is looking at the events first it's got contact information for the folk

02:11:16.940 builders nearest you it's very clear when you look on those sites what district you're in if

02:11:22.000 you look at the states. It's got a list of folk builders in Gothar you can contact, but it's also

02:11:28.300 got a really cool event section. And I'm really proud of the event section. It's very useful,

02:11:37.060 but it's also really nice to see all of the different events that we have going on on any

02:11:42.560 given weekend for the Astro Folk Assembly. There's a lot of stuff going on, and there's a very good

02:11:48.040 chance there's stuff going on near you so i would encourage you guys to reach out to get involved

02:11:53.080 and to pay attention to that event section so you can be be part of what's going on in your area

02:12:04.120 i see a random comment over on the side i love me some tacos but chicken fried steak

02:12:08.600 is superior um chicken fried steak is fantastic i love me some chicken fried steak that's good

02:12:18.040 good stuff all right well that's all the questions we got tonight we've been talking at you guys for

02:12:24.020 two hours here i want to thank our guests thank you so much for being here jason it's always a

02:12:28.740 pleasure to talk to you thank you for having me it's been an honor all right well we'll definitely

02:12:33.680 have to have you on again um you guys got to get out and meet this guy you got to get up to

02:12:40.140 minnesota and see baldershoff uh they're a package deal and they're both amazing attractions go see

02:12:47.520 them. Until next time, hail the gods, hail the folk, hail the AFA. And remember, victory never sleeps.

02:13:17.520 We'll be right back.

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Asatru Folk Assembly - September 15, 2022

9⧸14⧸22 Victory Never Sleeps, Episode 10

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