In this week's episode, we take a look at some of the exciting upcoming events happening across the UK this fall and winter, as well as a bit of lore and lore related news. We also talk about a new addition to the program, a new model of the Alvis model, and answer some listener questions.
00:04:42.480well so i'm uh current things as you might can see i'm getting on my laptop because it is
00:04:56.000easier to use than trying to do it on my phone camera quality is not as good as i am noticing
00:05:04.340but we will make it work all right so less good but i will take it for this evening
00:05:11.560um yeah frares harvest feast coming up i am looking forward to that it will be very exciting
00:05:17.380coming up this weekend should be should be awesome i don't think it's it's going to be
00:05:26.180about the perfect temperature to be out there and enjoying it looking forward to spending some time
00:05:31.960with our folk in that part of the country if you can make it we would love to see you there
00:05:37.880um there's still time if you're interested get a hold of your local folk builder and they can get
00:05:43.080you all set up um also coming up in october we are going to have winter nights in new hampshire
00:05:53.400for the very first time um that's going to be amazing it is the perfect most beautiful time of
00:06:03.080year to be doing that there so i am very excited about it i hope to see all of you guys it's the
00:06:10.600first time having it that far north on that coast first time having any afa major afa event that far
00:06:18.680north on that coast so hopefully we can get some of our members who maybe excuse me maybe it's been
00:06:25.080a little bit more difficult to travel to in previous years to be able to come out i'd love
00:06:29.800to meet all of them and all of you that would like to show up so if you can do that please reach out
00:06:34.360to your local folk builder they'll get you all set up i i will be there and bringing my barber gear
00:06:40.680you heard it here folks um no that'll be awesome uh you can meet me you can meet svan he can tell
00:06:50.680you tales of of volcanic iceland and uh cut your hair and that'll be awesome so yeah looking
00:06:58.600forward to that and then feast of the iron hair yard coming up in november so that'll be really
00:07:06.120nice we've got as you can see a number of cool things coming up and opportunities to get out
00:07:12.360there meet uh other members of your afa family and get involved so it's a good time to do that
00:07:19.640and we would love to see you guys there i think that's where we're at uh if you are consuming
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00:08:56.840with that so we're going to be going through the alvis model today
00:09:02.600we go to and nick will put a look up for you but we go through the bellows translation as always
00:09:10.360please use whatever translation you prefer there's cool stuff we may find in each of them that might
00:09:19.480can uh add some to it or give somebody a little bit different perspective so we certainly welcome
00:09:26.280that swan what do folks need to know about the alvis model before we dive in um a couple of
00:09:38.120things there's one this is a a fantastic poem it's very very uh it's it's cleanly anchored
00:09:47.800there's a part in parts in the poem that are very very orderly and then there's some
00:09:55.480following parts that are kind of sporadic so it will go orderly sporadic orderly sporadic
00:10:02.780and what i find in those poems is that you have the ability to follow along a lot easier um
00:10:10.340It is a great poem about Lord Thor, who I am the Gothi of Thorshof, so it has a special place in my heart.
00:10:22.440Um, and again, it, it really emphasizes on, um, one of Thor's, uh, traits that is not often spoken about. And that really is his deep wisdom and his cunning.
00:10:42.700um so that gets to be shown some of the things that is worth noting though so this is um this
00:10:52.700poem will emphasize greatly about cosmology and the importance of cosmology and the importance
00:11:03.700of why things are where they are in comparison to the way that a lot of folks are trying to
00:11:14.080change cosmology. So I think there's a re-emphasization on that that's very, very
00:11:19.520important. And then the other thing is the ultimate reasoning behind this poem, just like
00:11:26.980in Grimnismau, just like in Fathrudnersmau, this is a lesson for poets. And ultimately,
00:11:37.240I would argue Ausatruer, or folk that are Ausatru, loyal to the gods, as a must to go
00:11:47.500through and to learn in order to give, it's a roadmap. It's a poetic roadmap. It's a
00:11:56.580cosmological roadmap. And it really does give a lending to the way that wordplay is done and that
00:12:06.080our ancestors saw the spirits of other realms as having willful minds that perceive. So this is
00:12:17.240this is going to be good. I love this. It's a short poem. So we'll have we'll have it. I think
00:12:24.360have it over generally swiftly and then you know taking questions during and also um after though
00:12:33.720i mean granted we have talked it's funny we have some of these that we just ripped through and
00:12:41.480i'm silence fawn reads you a poem and then we go into something at the end and then we have others
00:12:45.960where we will torturously go through you know one or two verses because but because and this
00:12:54.360is one of the things that i love about the format of this program and i hope you guys too i can see
00:12:59.560it being annoying if you are here for the story itself but the conversations either through your
00:13:07.000questions or through the pieces of lore that we go over they spark ideas and discussing those
00:13:15.320ideas with um my esteemed colleagues fawn here it gives different angles on stuff and each angle
00:13:27.080and each answer in discussion sometimes awakens a different thought or a different idea or a
00:13:33.560different point of connectivity so i hope you guys find those valuable um may sound selfish but i
00:13:38.920certainly do get a lot out of those it's neat and i'm appreciate the opportunity to go over this lore
00:13:46.440uh again in this format with you guys it's
00:13:52.520when you are brand new to also true that seems like there's just this pile of lore to go through
00:13:59.640and all of these things to discover and once you're a few decades in if you're doing it right
00:14:05.800it's stuff you've already kind of we've all read the same stuff
00:14:11.880but it's really interesting to go over our lore
00:14:19.960at different stages in your life you know different seasons of what you have going on
00:14:25.400and perspectives you have coming back to it with wisdom you've gained but also
00:14:31.160going through it with a different audience if you are one who does lore studies like many people do
00:14:36.280if you do it with somebody different or somebody new they may see things in a different way or
00:14:42.360bring something different to the table that really changes you know doesn't change the
00:14:48.280core message but certainly adds layers and adds depth and i'm getting a lot out of going through
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00:16:12.280the in the chat room also we are joined by our newest apprentice folk builder from the sunshine
00:16:17.940state of florida alexander casto thank you very much for joining us this evening it's good to see
00:16:24.580you here and thank you for stepping up as an apprentice folk builders about time i remember
00:16:28.860you talked to me about that when i was down there back in uh february so it's it's good to see that
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00:16:54.200you and i wish i could blame my camera malfeasance on you but i cannot i have no idea what uh that
00:17:00.780issue is either um yeah so i think we're i think we're set up and ready spawn would you like to
00:17:13.100i feel like there's something else i was gonna
00:17:16.940throw oh yeah so brain is talking about how my head looked very small at the cell phone angle
00:17:24.140that is interesting to hear because my head is actually very large it is difficult to find hats
00:17:28.540that fit my head people have been kind of surprised by that when they try to put on a hat that i was
00:17:34.300wearing um but yeah my head is notoriously too large and bulbous i uh i can confirm it's like
00:17:43.340an optical illusion you don't body size to head size and you you look proportioned and then
00:17:58.460all right uh it's fine if you would like to if you could go ahead and start us out
00:18:07.500okay let's see oh and i oh i was gonna say too i know that there's 31 people watching on um
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00:18:47.660yeah so okay um a couple of things and again we've kind of re-emphasized um
00:18:55.340the reason why we're using bellows um so we won't i won't go too much into that but
00:19:01.180bellows's translations have a certain balance between practicality and i would say
00:19:11.740not mystical but just it it's um it has a flare in the language that gives it to where it is not
00:19:20.540so mundane but it is also not so uh cryptic um and and it does allow for us to go into things so
00:19:32.060um you know bellows translations and if you read in the notes in the introductory
00:19:38.540section he does talk about how this uh poem is one of the last poems uh about the gods before uh
00:19:48.140you know, excluding the heroic lays that's in the Codex Regius. And there, the poem itself is,
00:19:57.900again, a scaldic teaching of Penning, or of Kennings, excuse me, and teaches the poet how to
00:20:07.540use certain words or to give them a plethora of words to use. And that was, I think, the major
00:20:16.500cause of many poems because at that time everything was traveling by word of mouth and
00:20:24.680you know there was no written dictionary and I think this is a fallacy of our ancestors
00:20:32.340I really think that our ancestors should have picked up to writing much faster1.00
00:20:38.800and the Icelanders definitely made up for lost time. I remember my mother even telling me when1.00
00:20:47.460I was younger that when the Danes, they put an embargo on Iceland to where they couldn't get
00:20:56.560food and that they were actually boiling and eating their books because the books were made
00:21:04.020of vellum or and made from the um the uh intestine of um sheep and so i i wonder about that because
00:21:14.120there's a part in the story here that alludes to another story and we've talked about that
00:21:19.780numerous times during our vns about the lore and i wonder just how much of those were lost
00:21:28.540simply because they were destroyed or eaten i mean the the uh the horror of it but icelanders
00:21:40.920in the nordic lands have always kind of been seen as the ones who wrote things down the ones who
00:21:46.580told the stories um so you know it's it's really important that we hold on to the ones we have
00:21:54.760and that we make sense of how they're, they are, um, uh, categorized. So this is Alvis
00:22:04.520Maul. If anybody's familiar, um, the great, I wouldn't, I don't know, actually, I'm not a huge
00:22:14.000follower of him, but the great American singer Elvis, um, the name Elvis is from this Nordic
00:22:24.740name alvis which means all wise or all knowing and maul of course is the speech or the saying
00:22:34.020of so this is the saying of the all wise and it i think it kind of holds a purpose purposeful
00:22:41.620misleading normally when you hear that and i think with our ancestors too
00:22:47.300the inclination would to think towards lord odin and then we have now we have a story about
00:22:53.860lord thor and it and it is it it's about wisdom and it is about cunning so i i find that very very
00:23:05.060poetic for lack of a better word um so moving into the first part here we have one through five
00:23:13.540stanzas. And there isn't much of a proposing. Alvis is in a place. They don't ever specify
00:23:28.760whether he is in heaven amongst the gods. They don't specify if this is in the middle
00:23:35.420world or in Jotunheim or in Svartalfheim. It's never really processed, except that Alvis
00:23:42.780moves to this place to claim brideship so it's pretty safe to assume he has moved into heaven
00:23:51.260um and whether or not he is in the domain of the gods i.e uh ausgarth um because there is
00:24:01.720you know our ancestors saw heaven as an expanse with ausgarth in it walled within it um it doesn't
00:24:12.300really state. But as we start to go in, we will see more about the cosmological mapping.
00:24:20.500And it's pretty funny here, something that I hope you guys catch on to in the way that
00:24:27.840Alvis is speaking to Lord Thor. So part one, or stanza one, Alvis speaks,
00:24:37.860Now shall the bride my benches adorn, and homeward haste forthwith, eager for wedlock, to all shall I seem, nor at home shall they rob me of rest.
00:24:52.080and so pretty straightforward cutting right into it he's arrived and he is looking for a bride
00:25:01.320um and you know the that my my benches will adorn that means of course to you know his feasting
00:25:09.140table um will will have a beautiful woman um and no one at home um will ever see him rest
00:25:21.880until this happens thor speaks what pray art thou why so pale around the nose
00:25:34.680by the dead has thou lain of late to a giant like does thou look me thinks
00:25:42.200thou was not born for the bride so thor comes in and and immediately starts kind of laying the
00:25:50.520the insults down like how did you get here and why are you so pale about the nose um i think this is
00:25:59.000more about just a reference to the idea of of a of a pallid face a face that's um has like
00:26:09.000circles under the eyes and uh and just generally um ugly and he says i don't think you are uh
00:26:19.080suited for a bride i don't think you're gonna have much luck with the ladies
00:26:24.760and alvis retorts in three alvis am i and under the earth my home neath the rocks i have
00:26:34.840with the wagon guider a word do i seek let the gods their bonds not break
00:26:41.960so this is the first part that i mentioned where there may be destruction of stories that go far
00:26:52.380beyond simply just being lost um that they may have been destroyed uh and often to feed people
00:27:01.580um because this is lending towards the idea that the gods made a bond towards alvis there may have
00:27:10.040been some story in which the situation that's about to unfold with alvis was promised to him
00:27:18.680but we don't know we don't know where it survives um he also makes mention that he is underneath the
00:27:26.440earth my home beneath the rocks and this is important to understand the cosmological
00:27:32.680view of our ancestors. Our ancestors saw that the earth that they were standing on
00:27:40.720and underneath it in the flesh of Ymir is where the Svartalf or the Dvergar live.
00:27:50.280And, you know, now in our faith, I think that we reside to more look at the Svartalvar or the Dvergar as spirits of elemental power, spirits of energy and elements and how they interact with extreme heat, kind of the building blocks of the material.
00:28:20.280Kind of, you know, if you're looking at the proto-matter of the world creating Ymir, and the Jotuns have power over that matter, the Svartalfar are kind of the builders of matter.
00:28:40.180They are the ones that kind of constantly churn it and change it in order to be revitalized again.0.98
00:28:50.280And he's looking for the wagon guider. The wagon guider clearly is a reference to Lord Thor, who rides the chariot or guides the wagon behind his goats.
00:29:04.760And, um, so Thor speaks and he speaks rather abruptly, um, break it shall I for over the bride, her father has foremost right at home.
00:29:22.640Was I not when the promise thou hast, and I give her alone of the gods.
00:29:29.440So because he said the wagon rider and the kenning is already placed there, he says, no, I shall break that bond because the requirement of ultimate of the brideship of my daughter is my blessing.
00:30:08.940And I think it's also kind of speaks well.
00:30:14.000I know that perhaps our ancestors didn't think of it this way.
00:30:17.220Um, you know, when we speak of the, the idea, uh, clearly the gods are up above in the center, high in the, in the high heaven and, you know, a base creature of the earth, um, having their uses and having their, their strengths, um, still not seen.
00:30:40.520Clearly, he's not a suitable suitor for his daughter.
00:30:48.560And the hierarchy there is kind of understood, is placed.
00:30:54.860You know, it's the Aus or the Aesir, the Leozalver or Light Elves, and then humanity in the middle.
00:31:33.840They have dominion in, in Vanaheim, but Svartalfheim and, um, Jotunheim and Niflheim, they have little to no dominion. And I think that that's the ultimate message that's being kind of stated here in the hierarchy of, uh, spiritual beings.
00:31:56.300um and alvis who i find this super funny because he's all wise but he says this
00:32:06.680what hero claims such a right to hold o'er the bride that shines so bright not many will
00:32:14.980well know thee thou wandering man who was brought with rings to bear thee
00:32:21.860so he's all wise but he has yet to realize who he's talking to
00:32:29.800and um i think this is again a foreshadowing um you know he's speaking of of of uh lord thor
00:32:41.680as being a tramp or being a a bedecked wanderer in rags and we see this clearly with
00:32:51.100Lord Odin. And normally I would attest these, these symbolic meanings to the idea that the gods
00:33:01.680become mundane or they become into the middle. So they lessen their power in order to interact
00:33:11.340within the weird and within time that they control. But if this is in heaven, it's, it's,
00:33:19.660it seems to me to be kind of a funny um exchange and ultimately again if he's so wise
00:33:26.780he hasn't realized and being massive and uh you know carrying uh grithable the iron rod in his
00:33:39.980in his belt and having eon gripper and eon glover um didn't give it away i guess
00:33:54.460So we move into stanza six and Thor speaks.
00:33:59.660Ving Thor, the wanderer, wide am I, and I am Sithgrani's son.
00:34:09.240Against my will shalt thou get the maid and win the marriage word.
00:34:14.800so he says i am hurling or throwing thor is my my heighty it says in the in the nordic uh
00:34:31.760translation and um he travels wide this is um again you'll see a lot of kennings towards
00:34:44.800Lord Thor that reference riding. There's Einreider, meaning the lone rider, or there is Hlorider,
00:34:56.680which we talked about in a previous VNS, where a cacophonous rider, and this of course is
00:35:03.520referencing to thunder um but thor is in midgard more than any other of the ice here that according
00:35:19.380to lore i'm not going to speak for the reality of things but according to the lore and i think
00:35:25.400according to the mental view of our ancestors lord thor is deeply connected to the earth
00:35:33.460And his point is to constantly stave off the ever encroaching power of the Jotnar as they are attempting to unbalance the middle.0.99
00:35:49.460And that makes sense. He's connected to the earth. His mother is the earth. His father is of the sky.0.98
00:35:56.520And, um, in all Aryan mythos, we find that this, this, uh, the striker, this profile, um, is deeply connected to the earth, not the underworld, oftentimes completely unable to or should not go into the underworld.
00:36:15.980Um, his, his premise of the tripartite is he is the catalytic or the catalystic, um, uh, aspect of the tripartite.
00:36:29.960So the movement really is through thresholds, sideways, up and down, but mainly concerning with the middle and riding, throwing his hammer, keeping all things in balance.
00:36:50.080And so our ancestors definitely felt that nature was constantly on the brim of pouring over and that the gods, specifically Lord Thor, was keeping balance and protecting them.
00:37:11.260And I just find it interesting when they were doing the ice samples in, I think it was Antarctica, it might have been in the Arctic, I can't quite remember, but there was kind of like a very clear and visible point in which the sporadic and extremely long rises and falls of climate on the planet were noted.
00:37:39.140And then all of a sudden there was a moment where it, it leveled out greatly compared to the past. And I, I, you know, I find that absolutely fascinating considering that our stories speak of the gods taking mantle over, um, creation by slaying Ymir.
00:38:01.360Um, Alvis speaks and he doesn't even, he doesn't even skip a step, uh, you know, cause Lord Thor0.75
00:38:15.740just says to him, you know, uh, you're going against my will. If you want to get this,
00:38:20.920the blessing of me, it's not going to happen. And he kind of sidesteps it and just immediately in
00:38:26.320his assuredness says, um, in seven, thy goodwill now shall I get quickly. And when the marriage
00:38:34.180were, and when that marriage word, I long to have, and would not lack this snow white made for mine.
00:38:44.700So circumventing any, um, objection with absolute assuredness. And he says, I will have
00:38:56.160this snow white this miaul chita is the the uh the word used and again this is another point of
00:39:06.640beauty that is emphasized in our stories we talked about the pale arms we talked about the shining
00:39:14.440whether it be by gold or by hair and then again the fairness of skin is a huge factor towards
00:39:25.100um the exemplification of beauty in our stories and um i know that sometimes like alzeragoti will
00:39:33.840say um you know these are the these are our folk gods and you know people will try to rebuttal
00:39:41.160you know how does that how do you how can you prove that and here we are talking about
00:39:47.800one of the gods one of the um how senior um
00:39:55.160thor's daughter truth and it's mentioned with with freya it's mentioned
00:40:02.560frigg so continuously over and over and over again it's kind of re-emphasized
00:40:08.160um what they're speaking of um and thor speaks in eight
00:40:17.160the love of the maid i may not keep thee from winning though guests so wise if of every world
00:40:27.920that thou canst tell me all that now i wish to know so now this is the part where he lays the
00:40:37.380um, the gauntlet down, if you will. He's, he knows that the cock assuredness of this,
00:40:45.580you know, damnable little thing is so greedy, so hungry that he's like, oh, well, I'll just0.97
00:40:54.420bait him into this, um, and see how much he knows. And he knows he's going to take it.0.98
00:41:01.260hmm so um with number nine he kind of continues um answer me alvist thou knowest all dwarf of
00:41:17.820the doom of men what call thy the earth that lies before all in each and every world
00:41:26.820so at this point he starts to talk about the realms of yggdrasil or the great tree
00:41:38.280um he's asking what things are called and this is part of that poetic
00:41:46.760um vocabulary to create a bigger vernacular for the poet and so it's stated by alvis each of these
00:41:59.540in order for the poet to kind of have a lot to pull from um so yard earth it is to men
00:42:11.000to the gods it is the ways it is called or excuse me to the earth uh earth to men field to the gods
00:42:23.420it is the way the ways it is called by the wains or the vonir if people aren't familiar with the
00:42:32.940wanes, um, evergreen by the, by the giants, the grower by the elves, the moist by the holy ones
00:42:45.060high. Um, a couple of things about this one, obviously earth is a, is a given, you know,
00:42:54.000The field, it's worth, you know, noting that the idea of the middle world being a field, whether it's a field of battle, again, or what I have always taken it as is that the souls of mankind are, it's a field in which we are cultivating our souls.
00:43:24.000The souls that sift up to the top to become the cream of the crop, if you will, are the ones that are brought in in order to aid the gods against chaos and evil.
00:43:38.280And that is predominant of the purpose is the processes to create that.
00:43:45.880And so harvesting from the field is one thing that I've always taken.
00:43:51.800The Ways, it is called by the Wains. So Veya is what they say in Old Norse. Very, very simple. It's just, you know, Kalla Veya Vannir. It is the expanse, the traveling place.
00:44:13.860um evergreen by the jotuns of course um and then with the uh with the um alvar the growers and or
00:44:29.080the grower and that i think is important to understand that the alvar in specifics were
00:44:35.320seen as the ones that began the growing seasons. When Lord Frey returns to his bride
00:44:46.700after Ostra, or after Sigurblot, he returns, and his retinue of elves, who he is the lord of,
00:44:58.760begin their works from there um so you know it's uh the the imagery of lord uh or of the holy fray
00:45:08.760you know walking with the alvar kind of moving through and of course these alvar are you know
00:45:14.520lios alvar and nature alvar um not necessarily doc alvar which you know are connected to
00:45:24.520um the mortal coil or were um the moist by the holy one's high the only thing
00:45:34.120is is that i don't know if he's speaking of his own kin as being that
00:45:43.160and giving homage to them or if he is speaking of the gods again um
00:45:53.720The other is that he may be making a joke in saying that the ones at the lowest, the souls that are in waiting for it to be drawn up by Yggdrasil, are like they are the lowest but the highest at the same time.
00:46:18.560But there's not a lot to be, you know, spoken of here. And I really think more or less it was just a repeat. Because the word that's used is, he says,
00:46:32.520means the upper regents or the upper wrecks, the upper ones who dictate and control.
00:46:47.480And I think that more than likely, this is just a re-reference to the Aesir.0.63
00:47:02.520um thor speaks again in 11 he says answer me this alvis thou knowest all dwarf of the doom of men
00:47:18.900what call they the heaven beheld of the high one in each and every world
00:47:27.860and alvis speaks in 12 and it's also worth noting that um again a lot of folks get in their minds
00:47:38.100that the isir are somehow a completely different race from the jotun or from the vanir and that
00:47:48.240is not the case in this framework it's it's understanding that each of the worlds
00:47:55.900is in essence connected to its people so the jotnar are different from the gods
00:48:04.780because they are from a different place um and even though they have great connections
00:48:10.780one is living in one place and the other is living in another and that's what makes them
00:48:15.900in essence different races um but the gods are not of that they're not separate from from the
00:48:24.060yoknar and in a lot of ways they're not separate from the vanir anymore um but each of these worlds
00:48:31.580are synonymous with a a body of people and uh this is the one that i really like because i
00:48:39.820i've talked to a couple of people about this in 12 heaven men call it the word heaven is not a
00:48:50.460is not an aramaic word it is not a hebrew word it is uh not even a latin word i i i'm lost on the
00:49:00.220actual uh word that they use um in noumena i believe but i'm not don't quote me on that
00:49:09.660but no the word heaven is ours so to speak about heaven to talk about the gods in heaven0.91
00:49:16.860Um, I have had many Ousatru because they still have the kind of vilified, um, they're, they're in the negative thinking about, um, Christianity.1.00
00:49:30.800Um, they're like, why, you know, why are you calling it heaven? We should call it Ousgarth.1.00
00:49:35.320No, Ousgarth is in heaven and heaven is the shining expanse.
00:49:42.100It's the place above, and the word is there.
00:49:46.880And you see it again with Heimdallur and his living in Himenbjörg, the mountains that surround Ausgård.
00:50:01.980Um, so they are mountains in heaven that specifically surround, um, either of all where the gods built their, um, kingdom.
00:50:12.520So, heaven men call it the height, the gods, the wanes, the weaver of winds, the giants, the up world, the elves, the fair roof, the dwarves, the dripping hall.
00:50:34.580and that i think is you know very good in the sense that if you are it's kind of a clever
00:50:44.060usage because if you are the ones that live under and you live in a place where you know you're not
00:50:49.460able to see the sun the svartalfar always associated with not being able to see the
00:50:55.920daylight um and the cavern is a dripping wall or the dripping ceiling of a cavern
00:51:02.260but yet still the same in, in the, uh, in the upper realm where, you know,
00:51:09.820the rain falls. So it is the dripping hall as well. Um, and Thor speaks in 13,
00:51:20.660answer me, Alvis, thou knowest all dwarf of, of the doom, uh, dwarf of the doom of men.
00:51:27.420what call thy the moon that men behold in each and every world?
00:51:34.300Now we're getting into the interesting part that I wanted to bring up.
00:51:46.840Moon with men, flame the gods among, the wheel in the house of hell,
00:51:55.260The goer, the giants, the gleamer, the dwarves, the elves, the teller of time.
00:52:05.060So, most importantly, it's worth remembering that cosmologically, our ancestors felt that the middle world was a skein, a place in which in the center and above, upon mountains and beyond the clouds, is where the gods reside in heaven.
00:52:35.060And in heaven, there is a tree and there is Ausgarder. And that the roots of the tree go into the mountains and come out in different areas.
00:52:49.100A lot of people see Yggdrasil compartmentalized because of modern interpretations and some, I would even argue, just kind of ridiculous or I don't like to use the word blasphemous, but I mean, they're right in there.
00:53:05.060changing things and making things relatively ridiculous, but our ancestors would have seen
00:53:12.400the middle world and that they know that the gods are somewhere in the center and they're connected
00:53:18.900to our world. And I think that this speaks a great amount about more of the spiritual
00:53:28.740connectedness that our ancestors had towards the gods and they felt that uh on this skein of earth
00:53:37.460they were they were connected um so a lot of folks don't know how to wrap their head around
00:53:46.020that when they think of the axis mundi or when they think of yggdrasil as being in the center
00:53:53.780of the world, but they need to have it run through the world, and they need to have the roots at the
00:54:00.720bottom, and the gods at the top of the tippy top of the tree, and I don't think that at all, and this
00:54:08.260is one of the reasons. The sun and the moon are going to be referenced in this story as being
00:54:15.900known of and moving through the worlds um now we do know of course that the worlds are symbolic
00:54:25.480the gods are above um they are in the heavenly place but that place is not a range of mountains
00:54:32.740um and the jotuns are not if i drive east that's where i'm going to find them they are just in that
00:54:42.440land um hearkening back to the dawn of creation um these these directions have symbolic meaning
00:54:53.240um but they saw the sun and the moon passing over all of these realms so as the the sun
00:55:03.300rises in the east it would go over that central place that mountain place where heaven is placed
00:55:11.260upon it and that the gods would experience the same sun that we did so that is one of the reasons why
00:55:18.540i think it is not good for for um folks to change cosmology around in order to kind of
00:55:27.500uh cram it into a box that they need um because they're ultimately looking at the way our
00:55:37.180ancestors saw cosmology wrong um again if they were honest and said this is just how we spiritually
00:55:43.580look at it perhaps that would have you know uh a less sense but at the end of the day um
00:55:52.460our ancestors and the way that they experienced their relationship with the gods um is
00:55:59.820is very much in line with other Aryan groups, other European Aryan tribal groups. I mean,
00:56:09.580the idea of the mountain or a mountain range or a place in which the tree is. And you kind of see
00:56:17.300that with like Tolkien and his idea of the tree in the center of the kingdom as a representation
00:56:25.880of its interconnectedness to all that is below it.
00:56:32.500So, last but not least, too, the idea of the teller of time. Utilizing the moon for time-telling
00:56:46.000is a long and deep-standing tradition amongst our folk. I don't think that it was as uniform
00:56:52.940as a lot of people would like it to be. Most people immediately talk about the Anglo-Saxons
00:56:58.700and their lunar calendar, but most of the evidence that we find in the North is that there was a
00:57:05.340solar lunar calendar and that the lunar calendar was keeping more track of when to plant, when to
00:57:15.600um you know go out and when to come back um from raiding and trading and um all of these things
00:57:25.160so like as a matter of fact tonight um on the iron mark calendar is the hunter's moon which
00:57:32.820fits perfectly with the fact that we are going into winter finding uller's bloat and honoring him
00:57:41.000So, yeah, I won't bore people too much with calendar talk, but, okay, Alvis then speaks, or he says the tellers of time, excuse me, and Thor speaks again.
00:58:02.440And answer me, Albus, thou knowest all, dwarf of the doom of men, what call they the sun that all men see in each and every world?
00:58:12.760So again, emphasizing that the machinations of the Himenverder, the heavenly wardens, as they move through their designated paths, is experienced by all of the worlds.
00:58:27.400And that's why sometimes we talk about how the worlds of Yggdrasil can be compartmentalized, can be separated in order to be examined, but ultimately are almost as if they would, I'm not saying parallel, but overlapping.
00:58:45.700And that there is a great distance, but no distance at all between. That the gods who are above have abilities to see and to work within our world, whether it's through the will of Erder or whether it's through listening through Heimthaler's eyes and ears.
00:59:10.560he's half stepping into the heavenly realm and half stepping into the earthly realm
00:59:16.380um the gods are deeply connected to the middle world they are not so distant that they can't be
00:59:25.600um understood or recognized um they have a relationship with us and they work around us
00:59:35.340so much but we sometimes don't know or we we don't see it or more often than not most of the folk
00:59:43.460who don't know about the gods don't know how to place name upon the divine that's that's working
00:59:50.120around them um and again it goes the same with the jodnar and the and the vanir and so uh very
01:00:01.000very interconnected. Um, so in 16, the next page, Alvis speaks, he says, men call it the sun.
01:00:18.240And it's worth noting. Most, most folks think of Suna, but it is by the old Norse is, is Sol,
01:00:52.440So it is worth noting that when we speak about the Himenverdur, they are not the gods of, but instead they are the, they preside over the elemental force.
01:01:19.440force. The sun is a spark from Mosbel and Sol or Sunna is given stead over that, carrying the
01:01:33.120shield to keep it from burning the world, carrying the bellows to cool it so that it does not
01:01:41.520overburn. And again, that's some interesting things with like scientific studies about how
01:01:47.800there are like electromagnetic shields in a kind of protecting us from a lot of the sun's rays.
01:01:55.340Um, I, I find that super interesting where they become synchronistic, but the primordial energy
01:02:04.780of creation is wild and it is brought under the yoke of the gods. It's given pathway,
01:02:13.140it's given rotation and it's it's given an ability to create life and that's the difference
01:02:20.720the um the cyclical nature of the way that we view creation is not that there is nothing and
01:02:28.600then there is something but that there is fire and there is matter or there is fire and there is ice
01:02:34.600And that fire and that ice give way to release great primordial powers. And there are beings who wish to wield that power in order to either advance their own wills or to, again, create the ebb and flow of chaos.
01:02:54.320um and then there are the gods who seek to maintain it and keep it on its path
01:03:01.180for as long as they are able to hold hold true to that order
01:03:06.060um so hence the orb of the sun um it is the uh the providence in which she has uh deceiver of
01:03:19.260dvalid is interesting because that's also kind of foreshadowing a little bit in the story
01:03:22.720um uh dvalin of course is a dvergar um and uh he uh you know he's not able to live in the light
01:03:36.140of the sun um and in fafnismal he you know is again emphasized that he um turns to stone and
01:03:46.600This was a common understanding amongst our ancestors that the Dvergar or the Svartalfar, the swarthy elves, as they were called, that lived in the earth could not be graced by the sun.
01:04:00.900And this still survives today in Iceland with many of the stone structures saying that they are, generally they will say they're giants.
01:04:10.120This is where a giant was and he got touched by the sun.
01:04:16.400There's even one where there's a giant and his horse.
01:04:21.620But more likely, it's lending to the Dvergar or Swarthi elves.
01:08:05.460And Alvis speaks in return, calm, men call it, the quiet, the gods, the wanes, the hush of the winds, the sultry, the giants, the elves, day's stillness, and the dwarves, the shelter of day.
01:08:30.620again this is an interesting part because they're speaking about the negative they're
01:08:38.580speaking about the opposite of all the movement there is this the stillness of movement that's
01:08:45.660also given credence to and i think this really does just it's more or less reflects a seafaring
01:08:53.460race. Um, being out on the ocean, I've been out on the ocean many times, um, on large vessels
01:09:01.620and small vessels. And yes, there is this moment where everything is still, the water is glass and
01:09:11.260it's, it's abnormal. Um, it becomes just very noticeable amongst the, you know, cacophonous
01:09:21.580noise of the of the uh wind in the ocean um constantly barraging you and so i think that
01:09:29.500this again lends to why they mention this is because everyone every now and then you have no
01:09:36.080wind in your sail and there's just this great stillness that falls upon the world um and thor
01:09:42.880speaks in 23 answer me alvis thou knowest all dwarf of the doom of men what call they
01:09:51.360the sea whereon men sail in each and every world so again there is referencing i think there's the
01:09:58.480connection point um i just speaking of seafaring um alvis speaks sea men call it um and that's
01:10:10.800interesting uh you know a lot of people don't know the old norse word is sai or sire for the sea so
01:10:18.240our languages are you know for a lot of words are very very close to each other
01:10:24.160um the gods the smooth lying or smooth laying the wave is it called by the wains
01:10:35.440eel home by the giants drink stuff the elves for the dwarves its name is the deep
01:10:45.760um yeah the the lagerstav is what the elves call it lagastal and um
01:10:59.200or lagastaf and again yeah the watery um
01:11:07.040stuff or i i wouldn't even say it's stuff it's it's uh
01:11:10.080yeah it's um this is one of those words that like um hasn't been translated well and the other
01:11:21.540options that you have don't really kind of fit to this but the idea of the water and i think that it
01:11:29.460has more of an importance because the alvar are the progenitors of growth so
01:11:36.480the idea of what they do in creating nature and creating that that blooming of spring and of
01:11:47.600summer is first and foremost starts with the evaporation of water and so i think it's quite
01:11:57.680fitting if you you know think about it um i always liked eel home as well just the uh the place of
01:12:05.160writhing slimy beasts is the way the uh the jotnar you know speak of it um and thor speaks in 25
01:12:16.640answer me alvis thou knowest all dwarf of the doom of men what call they the fire the flames for men
01:12:26.200in each of the worlds and again we're speaking here with an understanding that our ancestors
01:12:32.600viewed the holy gods as holding dominion over many aspects of the primordial they have come in
01:12:44.460and created space and given order and hierarchy to the chaos and in that order or order and hierarchy
01:12:53.680they bring in elements from the primordial in order to control it i know alzharagothi has
01:12:59.920talked about that uh when people go too far on the on the concept that we are a nature religion
01:13:05.760when in reality we are seeking to live not strictly in like symbiosis with nature but that
01:13:15.020we create our own environments now it makes perfect sense not to destroy the things that
01:13:20.580you need in order to create safety but that we are not simply you know laying to the wayside
01:13:26.820and saying, you know, no, no, I don't want to put a roof over my family's head because I don't want
01:13:31.060to cut down the trees. And anybody that knows history, you know, the Norse folk and the Europeans
01:13:40.580or the Germanic Europeans had an overabundance of wood and used it often as a, you know,
01:14:19.420By the wanes, is it wildfire? And again, this is emphasizing the nature of the Vanir, how they are diametrically opposite of the Jotunar. They are bringing in life and taking out death.0.99
01:14:34.920And one of the biggest kind of aspects of this is, you can see, it's lending towards the idea that the wildfire, that which kills and burns down nature.0.99
01:14:46.240Now, it's not always bad, but the Vanir being in the middle world with us would see that aspect.
01:14:55.040um the biter by giants the burner by dwarves the swift in the house of hell
01:15:07.000um and again i don't know why he used the um the double l hell um
01:15:13.920but the the land of the dead the the place of death um and also to again anybody who's
01:15:24.500been following vns it's the place away from time um the transitional point for the soul
01:15:31.660and components of the soul to move back up through and be disseminated back out by the gods
01:15:42.940uh so 27 answer me alvis thou knowest all dwarf of the doom of men what call they the wood that
01:15:58.720grows for mankind in each and every world and again my referencing to the usage of trees for
01:16:07.640the sake of creating. It's for mankind. And Alvis speaks, men call it the wood, the viver,
01:16:19.000gods the mane of the field, seaweed of the hills in hell, flame food the giants,
01:16:28.600and fair-limbed the elves. The wand is it called by the wains.
01:16:37.640So again, reemphasizing usage. But bear in mind as well, this is for the poet to use kennings. But I do, again, find it absolutely interesting, the fair-limbed versus flame food.
01:17:00.480And that's, again, reemphasizing primordial destruction versus natural law and its cyclic nature, or at least its attempt to achieve the zenith of perfect placement.
01:17:16.920And so there's, again, resistance and natural law constantly fighting in the center world. And I bring this up in almost every class at Thorshof and why it is so imperative that Jotunheim and Vanaheim are in the middle.
01:17:37.340They're not down in the lower world, or they're not off in these little bubbles that some people draw.
01:17:43.960No, their opposites are important because they play out here in the middle world.
01:17:53.520Answer me, Alvis, thou knowest all, dwarf of the doom of men.
01:17:58.900What call thy the knight, the daughter of Noor, and each and every world?
01:18:07.340And Alvis speaks, night men call it, darkness, gods name it, the hood, the holy ones high, the giants, the lightless, the elves, sleeps joy, the dwarves, the weaver of dreams.
01:18:27.700so this is interesting and obviously that the the hymen verder thus far have not been mentioned as
01:18:39.820being gendered um they're seen strictly as just their in their primordial sense um but you know
01:18:47.580later on they are listed clearly as having you know willful soul and gender um and not is
01:18:55.120of the night. Some people have tried to classify her as being Ostara, that somehow she is also0.99
01:19:04.800the Dawn. And I think that's extremely misleading. And I think that's, you know, again, pushing too
01:19:13.160far because of the connection to her and the darkness. However, perhaps as time went on,
01:19:22.120you know as the stories went on their um loss of the him and further in their entirety because you
01:19:29.800very rarely see like the mentioning will be of like say soul and mauni but not day or not
01:19:39.080and then sometimes or very rarely uh delinger will be mentioned and certainly in the old norse
01:19:45.080Of course, Ostra is not mentioned. The name survives to be of the East, but the function kind of gets smoothed away. And I think that that, especially by the 12th century, you know, there was so much lost.
01:20:05.840um so thor speaks and he says again and remember this is that that's the anchor point i was talking
01:20:15.780about earlier he says answer me alvis thou knowest all dwarf of of the of doom of men
01:20:21.940what call they the seed that is sown by men in each and every world so
01:20:31.220So, men call it grain, and corn the gods, growth in the world of the wanes, the eaten by the giants, drink stuff by the elves, and in hell the slender stem.
01:20:52.080Um, and I think this is a really great part to kind of bring up one, uh, the word corn.
01:21:00.260I know we associate it specific, specifically with the, the, um, corn, um, uh, vegetable,
01:21:09.820the, the, the grass that we grow, but the word corn, like with John barley corn, it always,
01:21:15.440it meant a seed it meant a grain it didn't matter if it was barley or uh you know different types of
01:21:23.440like rye corner or what have you um but the fact that we've named corn as in like nebraska corn
01:21:32.960um has kind of thrown those things off um the eaten by the giants and the drink stuff and again
01:21:41.920the the referencing um to laugustav the um the the same as the the ocean here but this one
01:21:53.040really sticks true with of course the usage of um grain to create sacred alcohol um
01:22:03.200Um, so, and I, I also like to let in Helgard, uh, the slender stem, the, um, remembrance of,
01:22:13.100uh, life itself is, is, is fragile. Um, Thor speaks in 33, answer me, Alvis, thou knowest
01:22:22.880all dwarf of the doom of men. What call they the ale that is quaffed of men in each and
01:22:31.620every world and alvis speaks it is ale among men it is beer the gods among so that uh and if you're
01:22:45.780looking over the old the old norse the word all the o l with um the um on top of it all is ale and
01:22:54.260And Bjor, B-J-O-R-R, Bjor, is amongst the gods.
01:23:03.980So a lot of folks, too, kind of get caught up on the idea that we have to drink mead and we have to drink out of a horn.
01:23:11.000But our ancestors drank out of chalices.
01:38:11.400i can understand somebody wanting to make sure they didn't say anything that hurt the afa's
01:38:17.240reputation i think inadvertently it hurts the afa's reputation in a different way
01:38:21.640ah okay and it turns out that was a very old quote during i say very old it depends on how old you
01:38:30.200are how old very old means if it was during steve's time which uh the guy who answered who asked the
01:38:35.800question ryan or ryan says that would have been pre-2016 and uh we have we have definitely
01:38:46.520tightened up to make sure we are very clear on our position since then and that's been very
01:38:51.080important to me to do so. But like I said, I think we all have put things in ways we wouldn't have
01:38:59.760put it if we would have had time to think about it and given it a second thought. But that's
01:39:05.520certainly one of those instances um okay so um in checking out that video a point that was raised
01:39:24.240another question or point of interest uh guy in the video got real mad he got big mad that steve
01:39:37.440talked about getting a 501 c3 because that was cowardly it was cowardice and purposely done so
01:39:43.840that we couldn't fight or comment on racial politics um that's silly a lot of that video0.91
01:39:52.480was ah steve wants to raise money how ridiculous what's how we're able to have hoffs and do
01:39:58.880anything guy in the video also made you know steve is purposely holding back anyone in the
01:40:07.280in also true in america from getting hoffs
01:40:11.600how there was nobody else that even made an effort literally the first person in america
01:40:17.600to get us a hoff was stephen mcnowen can say what you want but that is the truth any kind of
01:40:24.640recognizable public religious building that's absolutely the truth and to say anything else is
01:40:31.120just dishonest and we have the old trope of anybody who's more successful than me is a fed or a jew0.86
01:40:38.880well that's what i meant when i said the allergy to success there's a certain number of people out0.78
01:40:51.200there that any possibility if you even dare to raise your head above the rim of the bucket
01:40:58.400to be somewhat successful at something it has to be a nefarious plot from you know insert whatever
01:41:05.520conspiracy you want there either it's jewish or it's a federal op or we're run by the cartels
01:41:13.280or you know there's rothschilds or i'm a lizard person i've heard this lately um
01:41:23.040it's never man somebody you know an old man spent his entire adult life building something
01:41:32.240and committed to something and we're reaping some degree of success because of it that doesn't even
01:41:38.320enter in or perhaps in doing so he won the favor of our gods and they blessed us with some success
01:41:45.520that's not even fathomable it's always got to be some sinister hand out there and that's a really
01:41:54.800depressing way to think and it's anathema to any kind of victory in life i hope that
01:42:02.240I hope that our people can break free of that. And we're doing the very best we can to break our people out of that mindset because it's toxic. And in a lot of cases, it's deadly.
01:42:14.440depression and a feeling of helplessness and can't possibly win in this world is literally killing
01:42:24.640our folk and it's often a slow death it's also often one by one especially of our young men
01:42:32.800but it's literally deadly to us and I want that to stop and one of the big hopes in the AFA and
01:42:40.480this is a so Nick I know what I do want to talk about next week I know that I didn't figure it
01:42:46.940out earlier today because I was trying to put it in uh figure out the the sexy tagline for it and
01:42:54.160a cool picture for it and how we want to phrase it but that's kind of what I want to talk about
01:42:57.860next week and I'll let you know who the host will be but I want to talk about the golden age that we
01:43:03.100are that we are building within the husk of the wolf age around us and what that looks like
01:43:12.380because keeping our eyes on that prize and our focus on success is extremely important
01:43:17.900and so that's what we're going to talk about next week and i'm not sure sure who will be joining me
01:43:22.780for it but i hope that everyone in this audience will join me for it because i think it'll be a
01:43:27.020good thing to discuss and i'm looking forward to that um all right a question from so we low era
01:43:39.660do you think our alphar and dc reside in both hell and low selfheim it's fun
01:43:46.860so uh when you're talking about the alvar obviously certain alvar are living in leo south
01:43:57.900time but i think what you're really talking about is what is commonly called doc alvar dark elves
01:44:06.940um especially because you're connecting it with dsir the reasoning behind the the nomenclature
01:44:13.580dark elves as opposed to swarthy or light is that dark elves are again shades of the mortal
01:44:23.900that have been given providence over the bloodlines or over a land and the alvar
01:44:31.740being connected to battle sites being connected to burial mounds being connected to um significant
01:44:40.700land um uh sites is kind of again lending to the fact that dachauv are not in leo southheim
01:44:51.660or in hellguard did they pass through hellguard yes um were they taken up yes were they given
01:45:01.580position to do things in the middle world again yes it's the same with the dsir we
01:45:08.860we speak about the desir as holding providence over the bloodlines of our people and this is
01:45:16.460a great and sacred honor and we can hope that a uh a matron of our family is a desir um and
01:45:27.580in that it's the the the ascension the being placed into the middle world and being presided
01:45:35.740over the blood uh imagine it is like our ancestors are in that place in the the place
01:45:44.140of our ancestors where they are where they are gathered but dsir are often and i think
01:45:50.780uh even by non-ausitru they're they're often confused with like guardian angels if you will
01:45:57.980um and we we see this in the lore and i'm not trying to pull too much from the lore because
01:46:02.380again i i think that all too often we think like oh if it's not in the lore
01:46:09.980but we see a couple of things that i i bring in is that every time that the d seer or the alvar
01:46:18.220specifically the doc alvar the ones that have lived um they are in a mound they are on the on
01:46:25.820the earth they they're uh someone sees them or has a dream about them coming to the house and
01:46:32.700and um experiencing now i don't know too much i mean i i think somebody could argue the dsir are
01:46:41.580in the realm beyond they're beyond the veil but again i believe that the dsir have an ability to
01:46:51.820kind of place their hand upon the living i think that they are far more than just being beyond the
01:46:59.980veil that they they reside i um i had an experience with a safe corner that spoke of my uh grandparents
01:47:10.860being directly behind me when she spoke of them and uh describing them and and to be honest i
01:47:19.020thought that she was um completely you know being false and then talking to my mother about the
01:47:28.140description and then she shows me pictures that fit the description and i was like oh so the
01:47:36.700the alvar and the dsir i believe are um the connection here in the middle world but if
01:47:45.020But if you're talking about Leo's Alvar, Leo's Alvar are spirits of nature.
01:47:48.960I believe they're, they're along with the Holy Frey.
01:47:52.060They, the reasoning behind the Kennings that were said in the story tonight is about the, you know, the fidunctity and the great, you know, fertility of nature.
01:48:04.200And those Alvar are of the upper realm and of light and of life.
01:48:11.040um and then the dvergar or smart afar are of the material so um i mean to answer your question
01:48:20.700uh flatly no i do not believe they are in leo selfheim or hellguard i believe they are here
01:48:27.160with us and they are attached to things their weird has been woven by the gods two things
01:48:33.680either bloodline or uh sacred places but it's alvar hard to pin down so
01:48:50.240i don't believe that they are stuck somewhere and i don't think that makes logical sense so
01:49:03.680if we believe that our ancestors interact with us or can interact with us here in Midgard
01:49:14.440but we also believe they're in Helheim then clearly they can be in both of those places
01:49:21.080if they are ascended to being Alphar and being at some kind of a higher level of existence after
01:49:30.620death perhaps they can go to all three of those places maybe if they're exalted ascended heroes
01:49:37.020they get to feast with the gods they can be in ausgard and helheim and maybe trouble is that's
01:49:45.180an amazing thing for us to find out when we're on the other side of the veil um but i think it
01:49:50.300it doesn't quite work as our understanding of space and dimensionality i think works really
01:50:01.940different in the world that we live in than in the world that those who pass beyond the veil occupy
01:50:08.080and i think that you know our gods can interact with us and be here in midgard they certainly
01:50:15.760reside in ausgard but thor travels to jotunheim um our gods can travel to vanaheim they can
01:50:27.200you know on special occasion journey to helheim
01:50:33.840the idea that there's this firm line between all of those places i think becomes less and
01:50:42.000less the more ascended of a being you are and the ability to travel between worlds becomes less so
01:50:50.160much that the all-father can travel freely between all worlds because of of his ability to do so but
01:50:58.720even then the journey into hellheim isn't a thing that gets done it's like you send a special person
01:51:07.920on a special mission to go there and that's abnormal yeah it's not just all the gods on a
01:51:16.480tuesday like yeah so i said well what the hell guys can i pick you up anything yeah try to hold
01:51:23.760the meeting and that's the thing the further from where you're supposed to be the harder the transit
01:51:31.760i think in a way as well but a lot of this is is speculation again i don't feel that
01:51:38.960our ancestors are trapped we believe that as i said we believe that our dcr with us here in
01:51:46.480midgard but certainly also they commune with the rest of our ancestors in helheim
01:51:52.560the dead pass through helheim regardless um or most of them do
01:52:29.080um there it's an evolutionary process to try to create there's um there's a sense again of being
01:52:37.300inspired um pulling ideas from all over and then trying to formulate them and then trying to
01:52:46.800attain the perfect balance between a relatable sense to our adult folk and to our children
01:52:57.640I think that my goal when, you know, drawing an effigy of the gods is to make the adults feel, oh, you know, wow, that's really nice or that's beautiful or it just kind of, again, a reflection of the way that we express our connection to the divine.
01:53:24.280but i also want our children to be like wow that's really you know the the the bright colors
01:53:31.580and again too because we're not you know our ancestors weren't drab um so the usage of bright
01:53:37.740colors the usage of um royalty of um and a sense of i'm not gonna i mean i'm not saying it's
01:53:48.940equating to because certainly the time period stuff that is drawn isn't the same but like a
01:53:55.340majesty to it not directly arthurian but there's a majesty to the gods as they live in their realm
01:54:02.620in the heavens um that is uh i think that that i like to shoot for i really don't i find a place
01:54:13.180like with uh say you know uh lord odin in his wayfaring sense but there's also needs to be a
01:54:21.260sense of a majesty to the gods um there uh there is a book uh i believe it's the author's last name
01:54:34.140is kyrie and it's called old the uh old norse myths and uh it's actually two sisters um that
01:54:43.020wrote the the book but the way they capture the majesty of the gods is kind of what i lean towards
01:54:52.380in some of my inspiration for that so what uh the other thing is is maintaining consistency
01:54:58.060thor in thor's hof will look like thor in other imagery and pictures um another again the
01:55:09.580consistency of the sun and rod as a symbol of divinity around the head of the house and the
01:55:16.500so um as far as like giving out sketches and stuff i'm still working on a lot of things so
01:55:25.840I don't want to do that, but, um, they, you know, like currently right now I'm, I'm attempting
01:55:33.800to finish up, uh, an image of New Order, Lord of the Seas, but also like where I worked
01:55:42.560on, um, some of the, um, the, the heroes, um, the holy ones.
01:55:48.980And so that's, that's hard too, especially when you have like, you know, no historical reference to go on. So, I mean, like, just a perfect example is Rod the Strong. He is, he was slain by eating a venomous snake because Olaf, Olaf Triverson put it down his gullet.
01:56:14.200And so the imagery that is in that picture is him stepping on a serpent and clearly saying that, you know, beware of the ones who claim to be sinless because they're often the serpents.
01:56:31.080So fun. Well, OK, first, as far as the images of the gods go, it's funny because something's fun and I talk about during the creative process and always look forward to that on different things.
01:56:44.600and svan is a really amazing artist and i mean that in the truest sense of the word because it's
01:56:54.760not just about like the ability to recreate realism but like he's able to imbue his piety
01:57:07.000into the works that he does which is really cool but he and i often have to go back and forth
01:57:11.720on like physique because i i would i prefer a more more swole oh than than this fawn prefers
01:57:22.120so we gotta we gotta gotta do do a little bit horse trading on that but no it's really kind of
01:57:28.320a it's a special process that i feel really blessed i'm able to i don't know be part of
01:57:34.960is going back and forth with him on the creative process when he does the murals because it's really
01:57:39.660special thing so we're waiting good things come to those who wait and you can't rush uh can't
01:57:46.220rush genius so as we wait on some of this artwork that we need you guys may be entertained by nick
01:57:54.940nick and my hand at some artwork because when we need art for our uh halo or our uh
01:58:02.940holy house to true heroes on our website we've been going through and i've been finding
01:58:11.260i've been finding images to doctor up and make fitting for them in the meantime
01:58:21.180and nick has been helping me alter those in the digital space and put background and such to them
01:58:29.100where we don't have photographs and while we await swan's um skilled artistry to uh bring
01:58:37.980them to life in a more original way but it's entertaining and we work on a number of those
01:58:42.860and nick's been a big help on those so um i feel like i oh i didn't skip a question there here's
01:58:53.980the question go ahead i was gonna say just to let everybody know too the divinity is always a sun and
01:59:00.540rod of gold and mortality is always a sun and rod of red just to to give people that clarification
01:59:09.660and that the sun and rod with its 12 spokes is speaking about cosmic order and being connected to
01:59:15.900it absolutely so the next question then is um
01:59:25.580do y'all think maybe the icier were space travelers
01:59:29.420my gut tells me we originally came off this world earth uh the tales of cosmic milk that feed
01:59:39.340bursala stuff like that it's fun are uh are the icier spacefarers
01:59:50.060um no i don't i don't tend to i don't believe the gods in that way i i believe that the gods are
01:59:58.300are divine that they have spiritual form first and that is their form um they you know to manifest
02:00:07.340physically um i believe it's possible for them um and i don't think it happens often and i you know
02:00:17.820i am not one to say why um but i believe that the gods are interconnected to us through the well of
02:00:26.460earth and that they all of the gods when they gather to counsel are not just marking the fates
02:00:34.380of men but are also interacting with all of the elements that create time and so in essence the
02:00:41.500gods are able to project time from themselves and as we perceive it um you know as we uh perhaps
02:00:51.820gain insight or gain um a sense of of being messaged by the gods the gods are so woven into
02:01:02.620to fate and time as it descends from them down into the middle world from that upper well.
02:01:11.060That that is a large portion of that interaction. Whereas like we spoke earlier, Lord Thor
02:01:18.420in his interaction of going and, and, and the kind of the, the shape of the hammer,
02:01:25.080his the handle going up and down and to the sides his uh catalystic nature is i think
02:01:33.860uh seems to be more prevalent or dynamic in the thought of our ancestors and then in the stories
02:01:40.180um and of course lord ovin who is the dynamic god of the tripartite is able to go everywhere
02:01:47.240um and uh you know i i just i think that um to see them as physical space travelers
02:01:56.660um you know that opens up a lot of questions that go against my beliefs if they are uh spiritual
02:02:06.620space travelers physical beings is there a limit on their time is it a limit on their age is the
02:02:13.180story of the golden apples you know some allegory for like eternal space food or or what have you
02:02:22.540i i just it doesn't fit with me because i believe that the the gods are divine so spawn is spawn is
02:02:31.420very nice man um yeah no it's not a matter of belief the gods are gods um
02:02:43.180you may believe differently if you do you are wrong the gods are gods uh they do god things
02:06:20.780There is a, I've always, our challenge as religious Ossetruar is to reach upwards to try to better understand our gods and pull ourselves, you know, raise ourselves to their level.
02:06:45.080there is a human tendency when we don't understand them to try to bring drag them down to our level
02:06:55.960so that we better understand them the directionality is very important i would never
02:07:01.340want to do anything that diminished my gods so that i could understand them better and hang out
02:07:07.880with my homie Thor. That's not the right way to do this. I want to raise myself so I can be
02:07:15.440better in communion with the mighty God, Aussothor. I don't want to eat chips on my couch
02:07:23.140pretending I'm playing Xbox with my big homie with the red beard. And it's funny because,1.00
02:07:30.400like it sounds funny when I say it that way. There are the adorners of grandma's couches
02:07:38.960that describe their faith that way. And that's really unfortunate. So that's why I get spicy
02:07:46.540about the question. Certainly our gods and ancestors influence us within our very blood
02:07:51.200and our blood and bones. But they also, and in a much more eminent way, influence and engage
02:08:00.240the gift cycle with us externally. Svan, take it away. Yeah, that last sentence you just said
02:08:07.880encapsulated everything I was going to say. But I need to take a bathroom break, so I was counting
02:08:13.620on you to be more verbose. No, no, no. I will be more verbose. I saw that and I was like, oh,
02:08:18.940never mind. Wait. So everything that Alshiragothi just said in that last sentence does encapsulate
02:08:25.900What I'm about to say is, I absolutely believe that our gods and our ancestors are intimately connected through our metagenetics.0.70
02:08:38.960So one thing that you're going to find when you encounter the Ausitr Folk Assembly, when you encounter the Godar of the Ausitr Folk Assembly, there's going to be some major tenets that are going to be hit.0.94
02:08:51.660One of them is metagenetics. This is a founding principle from our founder, Stephen McNally. And this is what you're talking about, that connection that the gods through on the reason why the gods are connected specifically to their people and not to other people is through this, the breath and the creation of the folk extended even more so with the shaping by Heimdall.
02:09:26.960And then, of course, too, with our ancestors, because we're intimately tied between all of them.
02:09:32.240Um, however, you'll also find that a lot of times anything that involves making the gods archetypes, making the gods too internalized, um, the, the Ausitra folk assembly moves away from this because we believe the gods are, we believe in the gods, but we believe the gods are real.
02:09:58.520We believe that gods are manifesting in the world through time, through cosmic order.
02:10:05.320And the breadth and scope of that, we don't fully know.
02:32:46.880does conflict drive our progress i find without an external opponent we risk turning our swords
02:32:57.340inward. And that hinders our own purpose in life. It's fun. If you would like to.
02:33:04.540Sometimes even with a, with an outside conflict, we still turn our swords on each other.
02:33:12.320You know, all too often people want to run the show themselves. They can't join the banner.
02:33:18.460They can't join the team. I mean, that's the story of like Herriman the Cherusky who, you know,0.98
02:33:23.360unites the tribes to fight and then they end up, you know, eating each other alive. Um, but no,0.96
02:33:30.860yeah, conflict, I think does progress things on a broad sense. I think that if we speak about
02:33:42.360conflict, there's never really just one external, there's never really one internal.
02:33:49.680there's many things that we have to battle against but it is that conflict that pushes us forward
02:33:57.000that makes us um reach i i like i was here ago he spoke about like even the conflict of life
02:34:07.000the idea that life is not permanent and so striving to go for something pushing harder
02:34:15.460making better um but not always too i mean like you look at like your children
02:34:21.580and you may that might spurn you on as well and maybe that's deviating away from the question
02:34:27.920i think that conflict is a huge component towards progressing forward in things um it's just that
02:34:34.760whether or not you choose your battles wisely and what the ultimate goal of your progressing is
02:34:44.080um kind of like an escalation of a force if it's an it's an immediate threat yes you got to
02:34:51.440deal with that right away um but if it's like an ever-present force of aggression against you or
02:34:59.160against your family or against your people then what you need to do is focus on what best way
02:35:06.360to combat that and that oftentimes comes in forms that people don't want when they have an aggressor
02:35:14.000When they have a conflict, they want to go and run at it. They want to get led into every ambush. They want to catch every, you know, they want to silhouette themselves on the hills. And more often than not, it's, it's about acquiring resources. It's about training, you know, and I speak about this in military terms because I was in the Marine Corps, but it is, it's about, say like,
02:35:44.000reiterating um things amongst your your family or your people that they need to learn in order
02:35:51.200to withstand you can't just go running off into the fights every single time so i don't know that's
02:35:58.120a really cool question i think it's just i can't give definitive other than yes i think conflict
02:36:04.220does breed progress um our folk have always been um a people of war but again how you manifest
02:36:15.100you're dealing with that and um and not getting caught up in the need to like
02:36:23.100go and and and you know slay the legend of the dragon without actually seeing the dragon
02:36:32.300ever um versus you know building upon yourself and building upon your folk and
02:36:38.860kind of focusing on that that positive progress so i think that we can look at conflict in some
02:36:47.740different ways and like in literature there's um i'd say it's a theme in literature when you're
02:36:55.420writing a narrative there's man versus man man versus nature man versus self man versus society
02:37:04.140and it's very true that necessity is the mother of invention i think conflict absolutely drives
02:37:13.180us forward and it gives us something to to overcome it lays a challenge before us that needs to be met
02:37:21.500it's easy to be lazy the things that make us not lazy are very often needs or you know conflict
02:37:32.800there's man i'm hungry i'm real lazy but i'm hungrier than i am lazy so i'll get up and get
02:37:39.320some food fundamentally there's all kind of pressure that becomes a driving force there's a
02:37:46.240pressure in sexuality that makes people go out and mate there's a pressure in emotional need for
02:37:53.760people that also promotes coupling and being part of and engaging with society there's internal
02:38:01.040pressure for a lot of things and conflict is a form of that you're right our people are particularly
02:38:10.400terrible at dealing with the peace can deal with the conflict but when there's nobody to fight
02:38:18.560we sit around and try to pick each other apart and dwindle ourselves into nothingness
02:38:24.000much like the video the gentleman who made the video that we spoke about earlier that is a
02:38:28.800i did not realize how epically terrible our people are afflicted with that until i
02:38:41.520became involved in in alsatru and and in i don't know the greater
02:41:23.360um epoch changing things happen we need to re-instill that in our youth
02:41:32.300and when I say our youth I don't just mean the children um there's a lot of
02:41:39.960men entering their 30s that are still in that youth phase because of the situation we find
02:41:46.940ourselves in. But yeah, recognizing conflict and rising to the challenge has always been a
02:41:55.700powerful, powerful force in uniting our folk and getting our folk to move forward with amazing
02:42:02.040results. Our next question, what is the AFA's view on oaths, boasts, and other binding words?
02:42:11.220So there's the real politic and the AFA's view on it, and I really don't think there's a lot
02:42:16.920a lot of um deviation or or nuance to it oaths are really valuable and important
02:42:33.480we understand that it is a fundamental sacrament of our faith to take holy oaths and to live up to
02:42:41.640them when you make an oath in a religiously recognized context it becomes worth more than
02:42:50.120the sum of its parts and there is more glory than on the face of it and achieving it
02:42:57.720when you fail in that there is greater infamy than would otherwise be assigned to it
02:43:03.640we take those things really seriously as a church and as a faith realistically our folk are not
02:43:12.920worthy of oaths at this point by and large we have lost the social binding to where that means
02:43:21.280stuff oaths are binding in the spiritual realm but what gave the oath so much power to our
02:43:30.200ancestors was you were known, you know, whether you were a man of your word or not, and if you
02:43:38.040were not trustworthy and you were a breaker of oaths, that was amongst the highest of, just like
02:43:43.280in the Old West, if you're a horse thief, that's one of the worst things you can be, and if you
02:43:49.080were an aussituer, an oath breaker is one of the worst things you can be. Unfortunately, we are not
02:43:56.780buttressed with social convention that has extreme prejudice against oath breakers in these days
02:44:04.460so far too many of our people inside and outside don't take oaths nearly as seriously as they ought
02:44:11.580to and we see that all around us and it's a cultural change we are attempting to make
02:44:18.700but unfortunately we are not there yet and we do realize that so we are very careful
02:44:27.660in oaths in oaths that we take in oaths that we accept and brick by brick we're trying to
02:44:35.020rebuild that structure to where the oath is held as sacred as it once was but we are a
02:44:40.940long ways from achieving that at this point do you have anything that you would like to add on that
02:44:47.260Yeah, I would say that one thing that we have witnessed over time is that people make oaths, especially within religious context, and then turn on them without any forethought of basically facing or ending or breaking.
02:45:17.260excuse me not breaking um putting to rest an oath i think a lot of our folk fail to realize
02:45:26.220that oaths were not just something that you made and then that was it there were certain types of
02:45:32.940oaths like that but if you are if you make an oath to fulfill an obligation and then you no longer
02:45:39.020can and you reach forward to the the the other side of the oath the other uh whether it's a person or
02:45:47.260group of people and you say, I'm no longer able to fulfill this. Um, that takes a lot of, uh, of,
02:45:54.700um, or thought and, and it takes a lot, I think of personal reflection to do so. The other is if
02:46:02.140you attempt to, you know, leave the oath and you are afforded a chance to explain yourself,
02:46:08.660that is a huge level of, of benevolence on the other side of the oath. And you should
02:46:16.140absolutely do that. Otherwise, if you leave, if you break, if you run, if you turn, then you are
02:46:25.160doing that which the oath binding is, you know, holding you. And the other thing about oaths is
02:46:34.320I believe that oaths are directly connected to your soul and to your haminya and to not
02:46:43.760um place that that state of let's say you take an oath and you need to um renegotiate it based on
02:46:54.520factors around and a lot of people get in their head like once an oath is made
02:46:58.980i can't do that and it's like no you you can it's it's a it's a thing um in um in in our history
02:50:43.940we see boasts and we see toasts towards each other.
02:50:51.300And very rarely is a thudler overworked at an AFA symbol.
02:51:03.640Yes, Vaughn misspoke when he said that he believes.
02:51:07.840he meant to said is oaths are absolutely tied to your soul um
02:51:16.880it's hard for me to speak as the total that's another thing where it's fun you got a ring on
02:51:22.240your finger put that back in the mail if you're not going to speak with authority
02:51:27.760i know good you are fully entitled to speak the things that you know to be true with authority
02:51:33.920and and you do you're just nice and you don't want to impose upon people too much but it's
02:51:39.760important to not equivocate some things that are true we know these things are are true
02:51:45.600um and our ancestors have always known these things to be true and i think that something
02:51:50.880special and remarkable about them is not only do we know that they are true but
02:51:57.920But whereas the overt religiosity of them may change context, they are culturally true
02:52:11.520up until we stopped understanding that our genitals reflected our gender.
02:52:19.180Up until very, very recently, that was sacrosanct, and we all knew that.0.52
02:52:27.920You know, we got kids listening. I forget that I'm as old as I am when I talk about, you know, my father's generation or my grandfather's generation.
02:52:36.280Maybe I'm talking about the people listening. It's great grandfather's generation.
02:52:40.600But within not very, you know, within living memory, a man's word was his bond.
02:52:45.980That was a fundamental American value. I have to believe it was a fundamental Western value.
02:52:52.160but just knowing culture your oath wasn't expressed in an also true context but if you
02:53:02.400swore an oath on a bible on something that culturally we held to be a religious relic
02:53:08.020that oath was you know that was binding that would win court cases that would sentence people
02:53:13.700to death or let people off that meant everything specifically in this country up until a certain
02:53:19.560amount of time a white man's word meant everything because culturally that was a fundamental like
02:53:27.040no this man does not break his word that's not what reputable upstanding white citizens would
02:53:35.800do because it was a European value that was so fundamental to who we were um
02:53:41.400that's personified in western culture and in cowboy culture and in the movies in the 20s
02:53:50.020through the 50s and 60s that exemplified that as a fundamental American value. You see that
02:53:55.640in court to this day swearing oaths. You see people entering into the military or becoming
02:54:01.960citizens or testifying in court and they swear oaths. Those things used to mean something or
02:54:10.640they take a political office. Very often we've seen that as just a silly formality in this day
02:54:18.840and age, unfortunately. But within living memory, it wasn't thus. Oaths are extremely important and
02:54:25.520I want us to get back to that place because whether we recognize their importance socially,
02:54:30.300they are attached to your soul. Our gods and your ancestors, every one of those generations that I
02:54:37.420mentioned from living memory back into the dawn of our race they judge you by your ability to stand
02:54:45.020by your word or not and that matters it's just really unfortunate if you don't realize that
02:54:52.300matters until you find yourself on the other side of the veil um and as we've seen we don't see the
02:55:01.500social consequence for oath breaking as much in modern house and true when it happens but
02:55:08.060what we very often see and svan and i've been doing this long enough is those who are overtly
02:55:16.220known for their being oath breakers often have a terrible amount of misery in their life and their
02:55:23.820uh their hymenia rots and that rot often takes their families and friends down with it
02:55:35.980what are your views on basically uh icelandic sigil magic on galdra brook uh the galdra book
02:55:45.420the august helmer the veg visir things of that nature spawn i know you got some thoughts
02:55:51.500yeah um wisdom's on folks well so when you had the books like the raw the bulk or the
02:56:01.500slaughter bulk and they were written by swan the black and you know these these um0.98
02:56:08.940uh wizardly fellows what this is really talking about is a time where there is a great influx of
02:56:17.100medieval magic flowing into the nordic lands and specifically iceland and i spoke about that
02:56:25.980earlier the icelanders prided themselves on being able to write they had the book processed down
02:56:31.820especially because of the vellum and um so the natural production of that is as as christianity
02:56:41.660starts dealing with its foreignness and it also has a long-standing tradition of occultism within
02:56:49.820it um kind of running parallel it naturally flowed up there and it was influenced greatly with um
02:56:59.180nordic occultism if you will um pre-christian occultism and that's what you're really getting
02:57:05.500is this this synthesizing of the two and so a lot of folks will say oh it's talismanic magic and it
02:57:14.460has nothing to do with the vikings and they are correct it has nothing to do with the vikings
02:57:18.540but the nordic people are synthesizing this not based out of a vacuum they are placing
02:57:27.260things into it um as far as the absolute functionality of it i feel that with a lot
02:57:39.260of folks when it came to the catholic church there was a sense that they could gain power
02:57:46.220by doing these things i think that there was a lot of stuff there where they um they felt
02:57:54.620like they needed more control i think that um you know like after the um malifus malefactorum
02:58:03.420the witch the the witch the hammer of the witch um you know that that was a common thing of the
02:58:09.340catholic church and then later on they they came on to say like no a lot of these products of of
02:58:15.420this um evil is again just being in juxtaposition to the power of the church or or the uh presence
02:58:26.220of it so i don't um i mean i don't think that talismanic magic especially like the seal of
02:58:36.460solomon and all of that stuff when you look at that stuff that's not nordically based but when
02:58:41.420you go in and look at the golden book there are huge nuggets of good usable and historical
02:58:50.860referencing towards the way perhaps that our ancestors thought of of magic the idea of placing
02:58:58.860runes or placing staves in certain areas whether it was under the arm or in in the
02:59:05.100footprint of something on the road um i don't think that that deals as much with the medieval
02:59:13.020um occult i think that has a lot to come back so i i would say it's worth looking into um as far
02:59:22.140as the popularity of the of the vavisir um or the um helm of all um i mean we know that the
02:59:31.740helm of all most likely was not used like by any viking during any viking battle it was probably
02:59:38.700not placed on shields or or helms or what have you um but again the symbol there starts to grow
02:59:47.580and have its own presence it has perhaps its own um power of that time um so flag on the play for
03:00:00.700a second we don't know that and what i and when i say that i want to say that things are often an
03:00:08.140evolution of other things we know that the helm of awe is a viking concept and the algis and
03:00:18.220multiple directions was absolutely used well and and i say that to say this when you look
03:00:24.380at the sonnenrad that we use as a halo around the heads of our heroes
03:00:31.980people want to complain no but wait that's not like the ancient ones that's like the nazi one
03:00:39.340yeah for the same reason it's a solar one that's 12 spoke but when you look at them you see the
03:00:44.380progression very clearly you see ones with a variety of different spokes to them in the
03:00:51.500germanic migration period you see them very specifically in the westphalian area of germany
03:00:58.540you see them in a number of different locations with a different variety of spokes i've seen six
03:01:04.140i've seen four i've seen eight i believe i've seen nine all with the same patterning to them
03:01:12.300so there's an evolution of symbology and while the symbols as they're displayed in the galder book
03:01:20.700aren't exact replicas of prior things many of them very well have roots in prior times and in
03:01:32.620the folk memory of our of our people and get evolved over time into things so yes the august
03:01:38.140helmer in the way that you get the tattoo that you got on the guy at the gym shoulder is not
03:01:43.740the one that was likely used in a viking context the idea of radiating our runic imagery outward
03:01:54.460is absolutely an ancient concept and gets used a lot of times so
03:04:55.760it's sometimes it's come by very honestly by new people that don't
03:04:59.360have a mature understanding of it yet and that's fine
03:05:04.000it's by people that have been around for a long time sometimes it's a willful ignorance or or a
03:05:08.960lack of taking a mature view of our faith um may i say one other thing about this say all the things
03:05:23.440you want well i wanted to bring up that does it have relevance it was synthesized it was
03:05:31.680born in the nordic people and a lot of symbology throughout europe england germany uh christianity
03:05:42.640was synthesized in and there were as we spoke before it's in the blood you can't escape it it's
03:05:49.840it's part of us the gods kind of do manifest in our blood and so you see that happen a lot with
03:05:57.760other you know imagery and um so i think the symbols have relevance and i think that it's it's
03:06:06.000more about to how the culture kind of uh accepts that relevance um i see this a lot with the um
03:06:16.480the othala rune i i i get this a lot on the internet where like um you know some shmarmy
03:06:24.160neck beard is is gonna say that the the oath of law rune you use is the nazi rune and it's like
03:06:31.440the the nazis used it yes but they got it from a german manuscript they pulled it out of their
03:06:38.800history it was synthesized amongst their people this wasn't something they just pulled out of the
03:06:45.360air and that a lot of these symbols become synonymous with us as germanic
03:06:53.680arians whether they don't want it to be or or not
03:07:01.360note out here to adults listening to the program
03:07:04.000whatever your views on the second world war or on european politics of the 20s 30s and 40s
03:07:24.000the government of germany and all of its people during that time didn't just decide to do all of
03:07:30.640the things to see how evil they could be they did a lot of things to be innovative or because they
03:07:39.200were powerful or because they were efficient or because they worked well or because they were
03:07:44.000good stuff we don't decide we can't do space exploration because rocketry was developed by the0.97
03:07:51.200nazis yeah and it's awesome it was really a very efficient way to project things from
03:08:00.400the ground to space or to very high earth orbit symbols that are rooted in our shared cultural
03:08:09.600past are cool because they look cool they resound with our folk soul and they have magical potency
03:08:17.920just because it happened in germany and you know a 30-year period in the last century doesn't mean
03:08:24.080it was inherently evil or bad or or whatever the innovations of an entire nation or at times an
03:08:33.920entire continent aren't that's that's not a mature view of things that's silly on the face of it
03:08:43.680these symbols are are very often taken from what was called house marks and symbology throughout
03:08:52.640central europe and their roots go back into ancient times and yes they were made use of by
03:09:01.520certain political regimes at certain times the same way that we all have used symbols throughout
03:09:07.280history because they harken back to you know points of ancestry or images of the past that
03:09:14.640we all celebrate or you know the same thing's not applied there's many versions of christian
03:09:22.320crosses that have been used for all manner of different on both sides of the aisle political
03:09:29.120things or racial things by because it's a universal faith by a myriad of different ethnicities for
03:09:38.640different specifically ethnic purposes or for military units or for civic organizations or for
03:09:45.280flags or for this or for whatever you hearken back to symbols that have potency and power
03:09:51.200and these symbols harken back to the ancient germanic past so yes german
03:10:00.720political and military and anything else are going to use germanic symbols that only make sense
03:10:08.640english people are going to use english symbols and if you take them back far enough they become
03:10:13.760the same symbols that's just kind of how migrations of peoples work
03:10:20.560Yeah, hearing people say, oh, they appropriate, or they stole this, etc. is kind of ridiculous. And for anybody that's interested in learning, the symbol is called Ergra. It's in a medieval runic manuscript. I think Nigel Pennick speaks a great deal about it.0.87
03:10:40.060so um and then our next uh our next question why does the afa not view the eddas as scripture
03:10:54.700because the word scripture is loaded and means something different books that we
03:11:01.180typically encounter that we would call scripture are specifically written for that purpose
03:11:10.060And I do think that the Eddas are holy, but I think them being scripture is different. The author of the Eddas, there's no point where they're, and then Odin came unto me in the cave and told me to write these things in this way.
03:11:26.560That's just not true. That's not how they were created. Very often within the texts themselves, it's understood that they're written for poetic instruction or they're written for comedic verse structure.
03:11:44.160and there's different purposes the poems are written for when you look at something that is
03:11:49.440understood to be scripture like uh like um the quran muhammad says no and then i went into a cave
03:11:59.360and then allah told like took hold of my hand and made me write the stuff this way or you know
03:12:06.000know the uh the christian the christian bibles or the the the torah all of those things those
03:12:14.240different scriptures in there the the pretext for them being scriptures is that they're the divine
03:12:20.400word of their god through an oracular function and them writing them down that way there's no
03:12:29.840there's no claim or pretext that that's what we have in the edits now the edits are absolutely
03:12:37.680holy they're they're sacred lore they're awesome they're special they're you know exalted they're
03:12:46.000all of these things but they're not they tell stories that are the divine inspiration of our gods
03:12:55.120but a documentary about the book of matthew the documentary isn't scripture
03:13:05.680it talks about scripture and we have parts of our lore that express divine truth
03:13:16.960but the telling of the story itself isn't done with that intention and with that caveat to it
03:13:23.440and if it was it would be done in a very different way it's not to diminish the eddas at all it's
03:13:30.080just to be to be honest and to be truthful one of the big things that's very important to me is
03:13:34.960i don't ever i'm never going to lie to you people me it's fun or not in the business
03:13:42.640of telling you things that we do not believe are absolutely true um it would be helpful to just say