Asatru Folk Assembly - 9⧸18⧸24 Victory Never Sleeps, Episode 115 - Alvíssmál

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00:03:00.000 all right guys hope everybody can hear me welcome to another interesting edition of

00:03:16.840 victory never sleeps uh my computer or stream yard did some kind of update so you may notice

00:03:24.720 I'm doing this on my phone my camera does not work which causes me a great deal of frustration

00:03:31.660 but it do um I may end up playing with some stuff during the broadcast to try to make something work

00:03:41.940 hopefully we'll have figured out a little bit better for you next time but uh yeah hopefully

00:03:47.280 everybody can hear me in this works okay for right now normally i'm the one that has technical

00:03:55.680 difficulties well it's one of those things i had no warning i was like okay i'll just sign on and

00:04:00.480 get right on and uh apparently the the powers that be changed rules on me so

00:04:09.200 we will we will see what's up with that um

00:04:12.320 um all right so there is still time but not a lot of it if you can make it this upcoming weekend

00:04:24.640 we are going to have uh prayers harvest feast in montana i am looking forward to that

00:04:33.600 that should be awesome it's going to be a beautiful spot it's my first time

00:04:37.120 a bit of an echo there

00:04:42.480 well so i'm uh current things as you might can see i'm getting on my laptop because it is

00:04:56.000 easier to use than trying to do it on my phone camera quality is not as good as i am noticing

00:05:04.340 but we will make it work all right so less good but i will take it for this evening

00:05:11.560 um yeah frares harvest feast coming up i am looking forward to that it will be very exciting

00:05:17.380 coming up this weekend should be should be awesome i don't think it's it's going to be

00:05:26.180 about the perfect temperature to be out there and enjoying it looking forward to spending some time

00:05:31.960 with our folk in that part of the country if you can make it we would love to see you there

00:05:37.880 um there's still time if you're interested get a hold of your local folk builder and they can get

00:05:43.080 you all set up um also coming up in october we are going to have winter nights in new hampshire

00:05:53.400 for the very first time um that's going to be amazing it is the perfect most beautiful time of

00:06:03.080 year to be doing that there so i am very excited about it i hope to see all of you guys it's the

00:06:10.600 first time having it that far north on that coast first time having any afa major afa event that far

00:06:18.680 north on that coast so hopefully we can get some of our members who maybe excuse me maybe it's been

00:06:25.080 a little bit more difficult to travel to in previous years to be able to come out i'd love

00:06:29.800 to meet all of them and all of you that would like to show up so if you can do that please reach out

00:06:34.360 to your local folk builder they'll get you all set up i i will be there and bringing my barber gear

00:06:40.680 you heard it here folks um no that'll be awesome uh you can meet me you can meet svan he can tell

00:06:50.680 you tales of of volcanic iceland and uh cut your hair and that'll be awesome so yeah looking

00:06:58.600 forward to that and then feast of the iron hair yard coming up in november so that'll be really

00:07:06.120 nice we've got as you can see a number of cool things coming up and opportunities to get out

00:07:12.360 there meet uh other members of your afa family and get involved so it's a good time to do that

00:07:19.640 and we would love to see you guys there i think that's where we're at uh if you are consuming

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00:08:00.840 nick put a little x cap on top of a little twitter bird that's clever um yeah so also

00:08:08.440 we come out as a podcast on fridays so wherever you're consuming this please bring your questions

00:08:17.000 we are uh even on shows like today where we're going through a bit of lore um

00:08:24.520 um it is very much a question driven program so we would uh welcome any of your questions

00:08:36.520 if they are relevant to the piece of lore that we are going through we'll try to get to them

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00:08:50.680 but uh we will get to them given enough time

00:08:56.840 with that so we're going to be going through the alvis model today

00:09:02.600 we go to and nick will put a look up for you but we go through the bellows translation as always

00:09:10.360 please use whatever translation you prefer there's cool stuff we may find in each of them that might

00:09:19.480 can uh add some to it or give somebody a little bit different perspective so we certainly welcome

00:09:26.280 that swan what do folks need to know about the alvis model before we dive in um a couple of

00:09:38.120 things there's one this is a a fantastic poem it's very very uh it's it's cleanly anchored

00:09:47.800 there's a part in parts in the poem that are very very orderly and then there's some

00:09:55.480 following parts that are kind of sporadic so it will go orderly sporadic orderly sporadic

00:10:02.780 and what i find in those poems is that you have the ability to follow along a lot easier um

00:10:10.340 It is a great poem about Lord Thor, who I am the Gothi of Thorshof, so it has a special place in my heart.

00:10:22.440 Um, and again, it, it really emphasizes on, um, one of Thor's, uh, traits that is not often spoken about. And that really is his deep wisdom and his cunning.

00:10:42.700 um so that gets to be shown some of the things that is worth noting though so this is um this

00:10:52.700 poem will emphasize greatly about cosmology and the importance of cosmology and the importance

00:11:03.700 of why things are where they are in comparison to the way that a lot of folks are trying to

00:11:14.080 change cosmology. So I think there's a re-emphasization on that that's very, very

00:11:19.520 important. And then the other thing is the ultimate reasoning behind this poem, just like

00:11:26.980 in Grimnismau, just like in Fathrudnersmau, this is a lesson for poets. And ultimately,

00:11:37.240 I would argue Ausatruer, or folk that are Ausatru, loyal to the gods, as a must to go

00:11:47.500 through and to learn in order to give, it's a roadmap. It's a poetic roadmap. It's a

00:11:56.580 cosmological roadmap. And it really does give a lending to the way that wordplay is done and that

00:12:06.080 our ancestors saw the spirits of other realms as having willful minds that perceive. So this is

00:12:17.240 this is going to be good. I love this. It's a short poem. So we'll have we'll have it. I think

00:12:24.360 have it over generally swiftly and then you know taking questions during and also um after though

00:12:33.720 i mean granted we have talked it's funny we have some of these that we just ripped through and

00:12:41.480 i'm silence fawn reads you a poem and then we go into something at the end and then we have others

00:12:45.960 where we will torturously go through you know one or two verses because but because and this

00:12:54.360 is one of the things that i love about the format of this program and i hope you guys too i can see

00:12:59.560 it being annoying if you are here for the story itself but the conversations either through your

00:13:07.000 questions or through the pieces of lore that we go over they spark ideas and discussing those

00:13:15.320 ideas with um my esteemed colleagues fawn here it gives different angles on stuff and each angle

00:13:27.080 and each answer in discussion sometimes awakens a different thought or a different idea or a

00:13:33.560 different point of connectivity so i hope you guys find those valuable um may sound selfish but i

00:13:38.920 certainly do get a lot out of those it's neat and i'm appreciate the opportunity to go over this lore

00:13:46.440 uh again in this format with you guys it's

00:13:52.520 when you are brand new to also true that seems like there's just this pile of lore to go through

00:13:59.640 and all of these things to discover and once you're a few decades in if you're doing it right

00:14:05.800 it's stuff you've already kind of we've all read the same stuff

00:14:11.880 but it's really interesting to go over our lore

00:14:19.960 at different stages in your life you know different seasons of what you have going on

00:14:25.400 and perspectives you have coming back to it with wisdom you've gained but also

00:14:31.160 going through it with a different audience if you are one who does lore studies like many people do

00:14:36.280 if you do it with somebody different or somebody new they may see things in a different way or

00:14:42.360 bring something different to the table that really changes you know doesn't change the

00:14:48.280 core message but certainly adds layers and adds depth and i'm getting a lot out of going through

00:14:53.800 this with you guys and with spawn so i'm appreciative for the opportunity also a couple

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00:16:12.280 the in the chat room also we are joined by our newest apprentice folk builder from the sunshine

00:16:17.940 state of florida alexander casto thank you very much for joining us this evening it's good to see

00:16:24.580 you here and thank you for stepping up as an apprentice folk builders about time i remember

00:16:28.860 you talked to me about that when i was down there back in uh february so it's it's good to see that

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00:16:47.280 it legitimately went through as someone so that's what i put it counts no that's not that's not on

00:16:54.200 you and i wish i could blame my camera malfeasance on you but i cannot i have no idea what uh that

00:17:00.780 issue is either um yeah so i think we're i think we're set up and ready spawn would you like to

00:17:13.100 i feel like there's something else i was gonna

00:17:16.940 throw oh yeah so brain is talking about how my head looked very small at the cell phone angle

00:17:24.140 that is interesting to hear because my head is actually very large it is difficult to find hats

00:17:28.540 that fit my head people have been kind of surprised by that when they try to put on a hat that i was

00:17:34.300 wearing um but yeah my head is notoriously too large and bulbous i uh i can confirm it's like

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00:18:47.660 yeah so okay um a couple of things and again we've kind of re-emphasized um

00:18:55.340 the reason why we're using bellows um so we won't i won't go too much into that but

00:19:01.180 bellows's translations have a certain balance between practicality and i would say

00:19:11.740 not mystical but just it it's um it has a flare in the language that gives it to where it is not

00:19:20.540 so mundane but it is also not so uh cryptic um and and it does allow for us to go into things so

00:19:32.060 um you know bellows translations and if you read in the notes in the introductory

00:19:38.540 section he does talk about how this uh poem is one of the last poems uh about the gods before uh

00:19:48.140 you know, excluding the heroic lays that's in the Codex Regius. And there, the poem itself is,

00:19:57.900 again, a scaldic teaching of Penning, or of Kennings, excuse me, and teaches the poet how to

00:20:07.540 use certain words or to give them a plethora of words to use. And that was, I think, the major

00:20:16.500 cause of many poems because at that time everything was traveling by word of mouth and

00:20:24.680 you know there was no written dictionary and I think this is a fallacy of our ancestors

00:20:32.340 I really think that our ancestors should have picked up to writing much faster 1.00

00:20:38.800 and the Icelanders definitely made up for lost time. I remember my mother even telling me when 1.00

00:20:47.460 I was younger that when the Danes, they put an embargo on Iceland to where they couldn't get

00:20:56.560 food and that they were actually boiling and eating their books because the books were made

00:21:04.020 of vellum or and made from the um the uh intestine of um sheep and so i i wonder about that because

00:21:14.120 there's a part in the story here that alludes to another story and we've talked about that

00:21:19.780 numerous times during our vns about the lore and i wonder just how much of those were lost

00:21:28.540 simply because they were destroyed or eaten i mean the the uh the horror of it but icelanders

00:21:40.920 in the nordic lands have always kind of been seen as the ones who wrote things down the ones who

00:21:46.580 told the stories um so you know it's it's really important that we hold on to the ones we have

00:21:54.760 and that we make sense of how they're, they are, um, uh, categorized. So this is Alvis

00:22:04.520 Maul. If anybody's familiar, um, the great, I wouldn't, I don't know, actually, I'm not a huge

00:22:14.000 follower of him, but the great American singer Elvis, um, the name Elvis is from this Nordic

00:22:24.740 name alvis which means all wise or all knowing and maul of course is the speech or the saying

00:22:34.020 of so this is the saying of the all wise and it i think it kind of holds a purpose purposeful

00:22:41.620 misleading normally when you hear that and i think with our ancestors too

00:22:47.300 the inclination would to think towards lord odin and then we have now we have a story about

00:22:53.860 lord thor and it and it is it it's about wisdom and it is about cunning so i i find that very very

00:23:05.060 poetic for lack of a better word um so moving into the first part here we have one through five

00:23:13.540 stanzas. And there isn't much of a proposing. Alvis is in a place. They don't ever specify

00:23:28.760 whether he is in heaven amongst the gods. They don't specify if this is in the middle

00:23:35.420 world or in Jotunheim or in Svartalfheim. It's never really processed, except that Alvis

00:23:42.780 moves to this place to claim brideship so it's pretty safe to assume he has moved into heaven

00:23:51.260 um and whether or not he is in the domain of the gods i.e uh ausgarth um because there is

00:24:01.720 you know our ancestors saw heaven as an expanse with ausgarth in it walled within it um it doesn't

00:24:12.300 really state. But as we start to go in, we will see more about the cosmological mapping.

00:24:20.500 And it's pretty funny here, something that I hope you guys catch on to in the way that

00:24:27.840 Alvis is speaking to Lord Thor. So part one, or stanza one, Alvis speaks,

00:24:37.860 Now shall the bride my benches adorn, and homeward haste forthwith, eager for wedlock, to all shall I seem, nor at home shall they rob me of rest.

00:24:52.080 and so pretty straightforward cutting right into it he's arrived and he is looking for a bride

00:25:01.320 um and you know the that my my benches will adorn that means of course to you know his feasting

00:25:09.140 table um will will have a beautiful woman um and no one at home um will ever see him rest

00:25:21.880 until this happens thor speaks what pray art thou why so pale around the nose

00:25:34.680 by the dead has thou lain of late to a giant like does thou look me thinks

00:25:42.200 thou was not born for the bride so thor comes in and and immediately starts kind of laying the

00:25:50.520 the insults down like how did you get here and why are you so pale about the nose um i think this is

00:25:59.000 more about just a reference to the idea of of a of a pallid face a face that's um has like

00:26:09.000 circles under the eyes and uh and just generally um ugly and he says i don't think you are uh

00:26:19.080 suited for a bride i don't think you're gonna have much luck with the ladies

00:26:24.760 and alvis retorts in three alvis am i and under the earth my home neath the rocks i have

00:26:34.840 with the wagon guider a word do i seek let the gods their bonds not break

00:26:41.960 so this is the first part that i mentioned where there may be destruction of stories that go far

00:26:52.380 beyond simply just being lost um that they may have been destroyed uh and often to feed people

00:27:01.580 um because this is lending towards the idea that the gods made a bond towards alvis there may have

00:27:10.040 been some story in which the situation that's about to unfold with alvis was promised to him

00:27:18.680 but we don't know we don't know where it survives um he also makes mention that he is underneath the

00:27:26.440 earth my home beneath the rocks and this is important to understand the cosmological

00:27:32.680 view of our ancestors. Our ancestors saw that the earth that they were standing on

00:27:40.720 and underneath it in the flesh of Ymir is where the Svartalf or the Dvergar live.

00:27:50.280 And, you know, now in our faith, I think that we reside to more look at the Svartalvar or the Dvergar as spirits of elemental power, spirits of energy and elements and how they interact with extreme heat, kind of the building blocks of the material.

00:28:20.280 Kind of, you know, if you're looking at the proto-matter of the world creating Ymir, and the Jotuns have power over that matter, the Svartalfar are kind of the builders of matter.

00:28:40.180 They are the ones that kind of constantly churn it and change it in order to be revitalized again. 0.98

00:28:50.280 And he's looking for the wagon guider. The wagon guider clearly is a reference to Lord Thor, who rides the chariot or guides the wagon behind his goats.

00:29:04.760 And, um, so Thor speaks and he speaks rather abruptly, um, break it shall I for over the bride, her father has foremost right at home.

00:29:22.640 Was I not when the promise thou hast, and I give her alone of the gods.

00:29:29.440 So because he said the wagon rider and the kenning is already placed there, he says, no, I shall break that bond because the requirement of ultimate of the brideship of my daughter is my blessing.

00:29:49.740 And that's not going to happen.

00:29:53.280 No one else can give her up amongst the gods.

00:29:56.220 So whoever said that you could get together, whether it was Loki or any of the other gods, that is irrelevant.

00:30:05.800 My blessing is the final word.

00:30:08.940 And I think it's also kind of speaks well.

00:30:14.000 I know that perhaps our ancestors didn't think of it this way.

00:30:17.220 Um, you know, when we speak of the, the idea, uh, clearly the gods are up above in the center, high in the, in the high heaven and, you know, a base creature of the earth, um, having their uses and having their, their strengths, um, still not seen.

00:30:40.520 Clearly, he's not a suitable suitor for his daughter.

00:30:48.560 And the hierarchy there is kind of understood, is placed.

00:30:54.860 You know, it's the Aus or the Aesir, the Leozalver or Light Elves, and then humanity in the middle.

00:31:03.120 And then beneath that is.

00:31:05.580 But I don't think that placement is too heavily focused on.

00:31:14.680 What I think more is it is about the closeness to the gods as far as their dominion.

00:31:24.980 So the gods have dominion in Ausgard.

00:31:29.020 They have dominion in Lyosalfheim.

00:31:32.240 They have dominion in Midgard.

00:31:33.840 They have dominion in, in Vanaheim, but Svartalfheim and, um, Jotunheim and Niflheim, they have little to no dominion. And I think that that's the ultimate message that's being kind of stated here in the hierarchy of, uh, spiritual beings.

00:31:56.300 um and alvis who i find this super funny because he's all wise but he says this

00:32:06.680 what hero claims such a right to hold o'er the bride that shines so bright not many will

00:32:14.980 well know thee thou wandering man who was brought with rings to bear thee

00:32:21.860 so he's all wise but he has yet to realize who he's talking to

00:32:29.800 and um i think this is again a foreshadowing um you know he's speaking of of of uh lord thor

00:32:41.680 as being a tramp or being a a bedecked wanderer in rags and we see this clearly with

00:32:51.100 Lord Odin. And normally I would attest these, these symbolic meanings to the idea that the gods

00:33:01.680 become mundane or they become into the middle. So they lessen their power in order to interact

00:33:11.340 within the weird and within time that they control. But if this is in heaven, it's, it's,

00:33:19.660 it seems to me to be kind of a funny um exchange and ultimately again if he's so wise

00:33:26.780 he hasn't realized and being massive and uh you know carrying uh grithable the iron rod in his

00:33:39.980 in his belt and having eon gripper and eon glover um didn't give it away i guess

00:33:47.720 So pretty, pretty funny.

00:33:54.460 So we move into stanza six and Thor speaks.

00:33:59.660 Ving Thor, the wanderer, wide am I, and I am Sithgrani's son.

00:34:09.240 Against my will shalt thou get the maid and win the marriage word.

00:34:14.800 so he says i am hurling or throwing thor is my my heighty it says in the in the nordic uh

00:34:31.760 translation and um he travels wide this is um again you'll see a lot of kennings towards

00:34:44.800 Lord Thor that reference riding. There's Einreider, meaning the lone rider, or there is Hlorider,

00:34:56.680 which we talked about in a previous VNS, where a cacophonous rider, and this of course is

00:35:03.520 referencing to thunder um but thor is in midgard more than any other of the ice here that according

00:35:19.380 to lore i'm not going to speak for the reality of things but according to the lore and i think

00:35:25.400 according to the mental view of our ancestors lord thor is deeply connected to the earth

00:35:33.460 And his point is to constantly stave off the ever encroaching power of the Jotnar as they are attempting to unbalance the middle. 0.99

00:35:49.460 And that makes sense. He's connected to the earth. His mother is the earth. His father is of the sky. 0.98

00:35:56.520 And, um, in all Aryan mythos, we find that this, this, uh, the striker, this profile, um, is deeply connected to the earth, not the underworld, oftentimes completely unable to or should not go into the underworld.

00:36:15.980 Um, his, his premise of the tripartite is he is the catalytic or the catalystic, um, uh, aspect of the tripartite.

00:36:29.960 So the movement really is through thresholds, sideways, up and down, but mainly concerning with the middle and riding, throwing his hammer, keeping all things in balance.

00:36:50.080 And so our ancestors definitely felt that nature was constantly on the brim of pouring over and that the gods, specifically Lord Thor, was keeping balance and protecting them.

00:37:11.260 And I just find it interesting when they were doing the ice samples in, I think it was Antarctica, it might have been in the Arctic, I can't quite remember, but there was kind of like a very clear and visible point in which the sporadic and extremely long rises and falls of climate on the planet were noted.

00:37:39.140 And then all of a sudden there was a moment where it, it leveled out greatly compared to the past. And I, I, you know, I find that absolutely fascinating considering that our stories speak of the gods taking mantle over, um, creation by slaying Ymir.

00:38:01.360 Um, Alvis speaks and he doesn't even, he doesn't even skip a step, uh, you know, cause Lord Thor 0.75

00:38:15.740 just says to him, you know, uh, you're going against my will. If you want to get this,

00:38:20.920 the blessing of me, it's not going to happen. And he kind of sidesteps it and just immediately in

00:38:26.320 his assuredness says, um, in seven, thy goodwill now shall I get quickly. And when the marriage

00:38:34.180 were, and when that marriage word, I long to have, and would not lack this snow white made for mine.

00:38:44.700 So circumventing any, um, objection with absolute assuredness. And he says, I will have

00:38:56.160 this snow white this miaul chita is the the uh the word used and again this is another point of

00:39:06.640 beauty that is emphasized in our stories we talked about the pale arms we talked about the shining

00:39:14.440 whether it be by gold or by hair and then again the fairness of skin is a huge factor towards

00:39:25.100 um the exemplification of beauty in our stories and um i know that sometimes like alzeragoti will

00:39:33.840 say um you know these are the these are our folk gods and you know people will try to rebuttal

00:39:41.160 you know how does that how do you how can you prove that and here we are talking about

00:39:47.800 one of the gods one of the um how senior um

00:39:55.160 thor's daughter truth and it's mentioned with with freya it's mentioned

00:40:02.560 frigg so continuously over and over and over again it's kind of re-emphasized

00:40:08.160 um what they're speaking of um and thor speaks in eight

00:40:17.160 the love of the maid i may not keep thee from winning though guests so wise if of every world

00:40:27.920 that thou canst tell me all that now i wish to know so now this is the part where he lays the

00:40:37.380 um, the gauntlet down, if you will. He's, he knows that the cock assuredness of this,

00:40:45.580 you know, damnable little thing is so greedy, so hungry that he's like, oh, well, I'll just 0.97

00:40:54.420 bait him into this, um, and see how much he knows. And he knows he's going to take it. 0.98

00:41:01.260 hmm so um with number nine he kind of continues um answer me alvist thou knowest all dwarf of

00:41:17.820 the doom of men what call thy the earth that lies before all in each and every world

00:41:26.820 so at this point he starts to talk about the realms of yggdrasil or the great tree

00:41:38.280 um he's asking what things are called and this is part of that poetic

00:41:46.760 um vocabulary to create a bigger vernacular for the poet and so it's stated by alvis each of these

00:41:59.540 in order for the poet to kind of have a lot to pull from um so yard earth it is to men

00:42:11.000 to the gods it is the ways it is called or excuse me to the earth uh earth to men field to the gods

00:42:23.420 it is the way the ways it is called by the wains or the vonir if people aren't familiar with the

00:42:32.940 wanes, um, evergreen by the, by the giants, the grower by the elves, the moist by the holy ones

00:42:45.060 high. Um, a couple of things about this one, obviously earth is a, is a given, you know,

00:42:54.000 The field, it's worth, you know, noting that the idea of the middle world being a field, whether it's a field of battle, again, or what I have always taken it as is that the souls of mankind are, it's a field in which we are cultivating our souls.

00:43:24.000 The souls that sift up to the top to become the cream of the crop, if you will, are the ones that are brought in in order to aid the gods against chaos and evil.

00:43:38.280 And that is predominant of the purpose is the processes to create that.

00:43:45.880 And so harvesting from the field is one thing that I've always taken.

00:43:51.800 The Ways, it is called by the Wains. So Veya is what they say in Old Norse. Very, very simple. It's just, you know, Kalla Veya Vannir. It is the expanse, the traveling place.

00:44:13.860 um evergreen by the jotuns of course um and then with the uh with the um alvar the growers and or

00:44:29.080 the grower and that i think is important to understand that the alvar in specifics were

00:44:35.320 seen as the ones that began the growing seasons. When Lord Frey returns to his bride

00:44:46.700 after Ostra, or after Sigurblot, he returns, and his retinue of elves, who he is the lord of,

00:44:58.760 begin their works from there um so you know it's uh the the imagery of lord uh or of the holy fray

00:45:08.760 you know walking with the alvar kind of moving through and of course these alvar are you know

00:45:14.520 lios alvar and nature alvar um not necessarily doc alvar which you know are connected to

00:45:24.520 um the mortal coil or were um the moist by the holy one's high the only thing

00:45:34.120 is is that i don't know if he's speaking of his own kin as being that

00:45:43.160 and giving homage to them or if he is speaking of the gods again um

00:45:53.720 The other is that he may be making a joke in saying that the ones at the lowest, the souls that are in waiting for it to be drawn up by Yggdrasil, are like they are the lowest but the highest at the same time.

00:46:18.560 But there's not a lot to be, you know, spoken of here. And I really think more or less it was just a repeat. Because the word that's used is, he says,

00:46:32.520 means the upper regents or the upper wrecks, the upper ones who dictate and control.

00:46:47.480 And I think that more than likely, this is just a re-reference to the Aesir. 0.63

00:47:00.280 Let's see.

00:47:02.520 um thor speaks again in 11 he says answer me this alvis thou knowest all dwarf of the doom of men

00:47:18.900 what call they the heaven beheld of the high one in each and every world

00:47:27.860 and alvis speaks in 12 and it's also worth noting that um again a lot of folks get in their minds

00:47:38.100 that the isir are somehow a completely different race from the jotun or from the vanir and that

00:47:48.240 is not the case in this framework it's it's understanding that each of the worlds

00:47:55.900 is in essence connected to its people so the jotnar are different from the gods

00:48:04.780 because they are from a different place um and even though they have great connections

00:48:10.780 one is living in one place and the other is living in another and that's what makes them

00:48:15.900 in essence different races um but the gods are not of that they're not separate from from the

00:48:24.060 yoknar and in a lot of ways they're not separate from the vanir anymore um but each of these worlds

00:48:31.580 are synonymous with a a body of people and uh this is the one that i really like because i

00:48:39.820 i've talked to a couple of people about this in 12 heaven men call it the word heaven is not a

00:48:50.460 is not an aramaic word it is not a hebrew word it is uh not even a latin word i i i'm lost on the

00:49:00.220 actual uh word that they use um in noumena i believe but i'm not don't quote me on that

00:49:09.660 but no the word heaven is ours so to speak about heaven to talk about the gods in heaven 0.91

00:49:16.860 Um, I have had many Ousatru because they still have the kind of vilified, um, they're, they're in the negative thinking about, um, Christianity. 1.00

00:49:30.800 Um, they're like, why, you know, why are you calling it heaven? We should call it Ousgarth. 1.00

00:49:35.320 No, Ousgarth is in heaven and heaven is the shining expanse.

00:49:42.100 It's the place above, and the word is there.

00:49:46.880 And you see it again with Heimdallur and his living in Himenbjörg, the mountains that surround Ausgård.

00:50:01.980 Um, so they are mountains in heaven that specifically surround, um, either of all where the gods built their, um, kingdom.

00:50:12.520 So, heaven men call it the height, the gods, the wanes, the weaver of winds, the giants, the up world, the elves, the fair roof, the dwarves, the dripping hall.

00:50:34.580 and that i think is you know very good in the sense that if you are it's kind of a clever

00:50:44.060 usage because if you are the ones that live under and you live in a place where you know you're not

00:50:49.460 able to see the sun the svartalfar always associated with not being able to see the

00:50:55.920 daylight um and the cavern is a dripping wall or the dripping ceiling of a cavern

00:51:02.260 but yet still the same in, in the, uh, in the upper realm where, you know,

00:51:09.820 the rain falls. So it is the dripping hall as well. Um, and Thor speaks in 13,

00:51:20.660 answer me, Alvis, thou knowest all dwarf of, of the doom, uh, dwarf of the doom of men.

00:51:27.420 what call thy the moon that men behold in each and every world?

00:51:34.300 Now we're getting into the interesting part that I wanted to bring up.

00:51:41.180 Let's read his response.

00:51:44.420 Alvis speaks in 14 and he says,

00:51:46.840 Moon with men, flame the gods among, the wheel in the house of hell,

00:51:55.260 The goer, the giants, the gleamer, the dwarves, the elves, the teller of time.

00:52:05.060 So, most importantly, it's worth remembering that cosmologically, our ancestors felt that the middle world was a skein, a place in which in the center and above, upon mountains and beyond the clouds, is where the gods reside in heaven.

00:52:35.060 And in heaven, there is a tree and there is Ausgarder. And that the roots of the tree go into the mountains and come out in different areas.

00:52:49.100 A lot of people see Yggdrasil compartmentalized because of modern interpretations and some, I would even argue, just kind of ridiculous or I don't like to use the word blasphemous, but I mean, they're right in there.

00:53:05.060 changing things and making things relatively ridiculous, but our ancestors would have seen

00:53:12.400 the middle world and that they know that the gods are somewhere in the center and they're connected

00:53:18.900 to our world. And I think that this speaks a great amount about more of the spiritual

00:53:28.740 connectedness that our ancestors had towards the gods and they felt that uh on this skein of earth

00:53:37.460 they were they were connected um so a lot of folks don't know how to wrap their head around

00:53:46.020 that when they think of the axis mundi or when they think of yggdrasil as being in the center

00:53:53.780 of the world, but they need to have it run through the world, and they need to have the roots at the

00:54:00.720 bottom, and the gods at the top of the tippy top of the tree, and I don't think that at all, and this

00:54:08.260 is one of the reasons. The sun and the moon are going to be referenced in this story as being

00:54:15.900 known of and moving through the worlds um now we do know of course that the worlds are symbolic

00:54:25.480 the gods are above um they are in the heavenly place but that place is not a range of mountains

00:54:32.740 um and the jotuns are not if i drive east that's where i'm going to find them they are just in that

00:54:42.440 land um hearkening back to the dawn of creation um these these directions have symbolic meaning

00:54:53.240 um but they saw the sun and the moon passing over all of these realms so as the the sun

00:55:03.300 rises in the east it would go over that central place that mountain place where heaven is placed

00:55:11.260 upon it and that the gods would experience the same sun that we did so that is one of the reasons why

00:55:18.540 i think it is not good for for um folks to change cosmology around in order to kind of

00:55:27.500 uh cram it into a box that they need um because they're ultimately looking at the way our

00:55:37.180 ancestors saw cosmology wrong um again if they were honest and said this is just how we spiritually

00:55:43.580 look at it perhaps that would have you know uh a less sense but at the end of the day um

00:55:52.460 our ancestors and the way that they experienced their relationship with the gods um is

00:55:59.820 is very much in line with other Aryan groups, other European Aryan tribal groups. I mean,

00:56:09.580 the idea of the mountain or a mountain range or a place in which the tree is. And you kind of see

00:56:17.300 that with like Tolkien and his idea of the tree in the center of the kingdom as a representation

00:56:25.880 of its interconnectedness to all that is below it.

00:56:32.500 So, last but not least, too, the idea of the teller of time. Utilizing the moon for time-telling

00:56:46.000 is a long and deep-standing tradition amongst our folk. I don't think that it was as uniform

00:56:52.940 as a lot of people would like it to be. Most people immediately talk about the Anglo-Saxons

00:56:58.700 and their lunar calendar, but most of the evidence that we find in the North is that there was a

00:57:05.340 solar lunar calendar and that the lunar calendar was keeping more track of when to plant, when to

00:57:15.600 um you know go out and when to come back um from raiding and trading and um all of these things

00:57:25.160 so like as a matter of fact tonight um on the iron mark calendar is the hunter's moon which

00:57:32.820 fits perfectly with the fact that we are going into winter finding uller's bloat and honoring him

00:57:41.000 So, yeah, I won't bore people too much with calendar talk, but, okay, Alvis then speaks, or he says the tellers of time, excuse me, and Thor speaks again.

00:58:02.440 And answer me, Albus, thou knowest all, dwarf of the doom of men, what call they the sun that all men see in each and every world?

00:58:12.760 So again, emphasizing that the machinations of the Himenverder, the heavenly wardens, as they move through their designated paths, is experienced by all of the worlds.

00:58:27.400 And that's why sometimes we talk about how the worlds of Yggdrasil can be compartmentalized, can be separated in order to be examined, but ultimately are almost as if they would, I'm not saying parallel, but overlapping.

00:58:45.700 And that there is a great distance, but no distance at all between. That the gods who are above have abilities to see and to work within our world, whether it's through the will of Erder or whether it's through listening through Heimthaler's eyes and ears.

00:59:10.560 he's half stepping into the heavenly realm and half stepping into the earthly realm

00:59:16.380 um the gods are deeply connected to the middle world they are not so distant that they can't be

00:59:25.600 um understood or recognized um they have a relationship with us and they work around us

00:59:35.340 so much but we sometimes don't know or we we don't see it or more often than not most of the folk

00:59:43.460 who don't know about the gods don't know how to place name upon the divine that's that's working

00:59:50.120 around them um and again it goes the same with the jodnar and the and the vanir and so uh very

01:00:01.000 very interconnected. Um, so in 16, the next page, Alvis speaks, he says, men call it the sun.

01:00:18.240 And it's worth noting. Most, most folks think of Suna, but it is by the old Norse is, is Sol,

01:00:25.920 sharing its commonality and roots

01:00:30.820 with other Arian language groups.

01:00:34.440 The gods, orb of the sun. 0.99

01:00:39.980 The deceiver of Dvalin, the dwarves.

01:00:43.820 The giants, ever bright.

01:00:46.940 Elves, the fair wheel.

01:00:49.260 All glowing, the sons of the gods.

01:00:52.440 So it is worth noting that when we speak about the Himenverdur, they are not the gods of, but instead they are the, they preside over the elemental force.

01:01:19.440 force. The sun is a spark from Mosbel and Sol or Sunna is given stead over that, carrying the

01:01:33.120 shield to keep it from burning the world, carrying the bellows to cool it so that it does not

01:01:41.520 overburn. And again, that's some interesting things with like scientific studies about how

01:01:47.800 there are like electromagnetic shields in a kind of protecting us from a lot of the sun's rays.

01:01:55.340 Um, I, I find that super interesting where they become synchronistic, but the primordial energy

01:02:04.780 of creation is wild and it is brought under the yoke of the gods. It's given pathway,

01:02:13.140 it's given rotation and it's it's given an ability to create life and that's the difference

01:02:20.720 the um the cyclical nature of the way that we view creation is not that there is nothing and

01:02:28.600 then there is something but that there is fire and there is matter or there is fire and there is ice

01:02:34.600 And that fire and that ice give way to release great primordial powers. And there are beings who wish to wield that power in order to either advance their own wills or to, again, create the ebb and flow of chaos.

01:02:54.320 um and then there are the gods who seek to maintain it and keep it on its path

01:03:01.180 for as long as they are able to hold hold true to that order

01:03:06.060 um so hence the orb of the sun um it is the uh the providence in which she has uh deceiver of

01:03:19.260 dvalid is interesting because that's also kind of foreshadowing a little bit in the story

01:03:22.720 um uh dvalin of course is a dvergar um and uh he uh you know he's not able to live in the light

01:03:36.140 of the sun um and in fafnismal he you know is again emphasized that he um turns to stone and

01:03:46.600 This was a common understanding amongst our ancestors that the Dvergar or the Svartalfar, the swarthy elves, as they were called, that lived in the earth could not be graced by the sun.

01:04:00.900 And this still survives today in Iceland with many of the stone structures saying that they are, generally they will say they're giants.

01:04:10.120 This is where a giant was and he got touched by the sun.

01:04:16.400 There's even one where there's a giant and his horse.

01:04:21.620 But more likely, it's lending to the Dvergar or Swarthi elves.

01:04:33.520 So then he speaks in 17, Thor.

01:04:37.140 Answer me, Alvis, thou knowest all, dwarf of the doom of men.

01:04:42.780 What callest they the clouds that keep the rains in each and every world?

01:04:50.080 And Alvis speaks in return, in 18, clouds, men name them, rain hope, gods call them.

01:05:00.440 The wains call them kites of the wind.

01:05:04.640 Water hope, the giants, again, lending to the idea of flooding.

01:05:09.600 um weather might the elves and helm helmet of secrets in hell so

01:05:18.840 when we speak of the yotanar having their inclination to create chaos 0.94

01:05:29.380 um in the middle world through um you know one aspect it's not just the only aspect we don't 0.99

01:05:38.780 simply think that the yotnat are are working through um you know physical states of vegetative 0.60

01:05:47.180 or or you know uh material that's one of the ways um but they're they're you know the the water hope 0.97

01:05:55.180 the idea of the of the deluge um as a as a force for them to be able to utilize um so you know the

01:06:04.460 tidal wave the the um tornado the hurricane are seen as instruments and that it is lord thor who's

01:06:16.060 you know attempting to stave all of these um implementations off um and thor speaks

01:06:28.700 in 19 answer me alvis thou knowest all dwarf of the doom of men what call thy the wind

01:06:37.580 the widest fares in each and every world and alvis speaks in 20 wind do men call it

01:06:47.420 the caught the gods call it waverer

01:06:49.900 the nair the holy ones high the whaler the giants roaring wender the elves in hell the blustering

01:07:03.720 blast um i think it's you know very interesting to look at the um the the whaler or the the

01:07:15.640 crying out, but roaring wender, the word wend isn't really used in English anymore. And it

01:07:21.300 means that which, uh, you know, travels or, or goes about, um, oftentimes, you know, um,

01:07:28.360 turning or curving. So, uh, it is the, it's the, the one that travels, uh, to and fro

01:07:36.440 while roaring

01:07:37.740 let me see

01:07:44.060 we're going to

01:07:45.960 21

01:07:47.460 Thor speaks

01:07:50.100 answer me

01:07:52.260 Albus thou knowest all

01:07:54.060 dwarf of the doom of men 0.92

01:07:56.180 what call

01:08:00.220 they the calm that quiet

01:08:02.420 lies in each and

01:08:04.180 every world

01:08:05.460 And Alvis speaks in return, calm, men call it, the quiet, the gods, the wanes, the hush of the winds, the sultry, the giants, the elves, day's stillness, and the dwarves, the shelter of day.

01:08:30.620 again this is an interesting part because they're speaking about the negative they're

01:08:38.580 speaking about the opposite of all the movement there is this the stillness of movement that's

01:08:45.660 also given credence to and i think this really does just it's more or less reflects a seafaring

01:08:53.460 race. Um, being out on the ocean, I've been out on the ocean many times, um, on large vessels

01:09:01.620 and small vessels. And yes, there is this moment where everything is still, the water is glass and

01:09:11.260 it's, it's abnormal. Um, it becomes just very noticeable amongst the, you know, cacophonous

01:09:21.580 noise of the of the uh wind in the ocean um constantly barraging you and so i think that

01:09:29.500 this again lends to why they mention this is because everyone every now and then you have no

01:09:36.080 wind in your sail and there's just this great stillness that falls upon the world um and thor

01:09:42.880 speaks in 23 answer me alvis thou knowest all dwarf of the doom of men what call they

01:09:51.360 the sea whereon men sail in each and every world so again there is referencing i think there's the

01:09:58.480 connection point um i just speaking of seafaring um alvis speaks sea men call it um and that's

01:10:10.800 interesting uh you know a lot of people don't know the old norse word is sai or sire for the sea so

01:10:18.240 our languages are you know for a lot of words are very very close to each other

01:10:24.160 um the gods the smooth lying or smooth laying the wave is it called by the wains

01:10:35.440 eel home by the giants drink stuff the elves for the dwarves its name is the deep

01:10:45.760 um yeah the the lagerstav is what the elves call it lagastal and um

01:10:59.200 or lagastaf and again yeah the watery um

01:11:07.040 stuff or i i wouldn't even say it's stuff it's it's uh

01:11:10.080 yeah it's um this is one of those words that like um hasn't been translated well and the other

01:11:21.540 options that you have don't really kind of fit to this but the idea of the water and i think that it

01:11:29.460 has more of an importance because the alvar are the progenitors of growth so

01:11:36.480 the idea of what they do in creating nature and creating that that blooming of spring and of

01:11:47.600 summer is first and foremost starts with the evaporation of water and so i think it's quite

01:11:57.680 fitting if you you know think about it um i always liked eel home as well just the uh the place of

01:12:05.160 writhing slimy beasts is the way the uh the jotnar you know speak of it um and thor speaks in 25

01:12:16.640 answer me alvis thou knowest all dwarf of the doom of men what call they the fire the flames for men

01:12:26.200 in each of the worlds and again we're speaking here with an understanding that our ancestors

01:12:32.600 viewed the holy gods as holding dominion over many aspects of the primordial they have come in

01:12:44.460 and created space and given order and hierarchy to the chaos and in that order or order and hierarchy

01:12:53.680 they bring in elements from the primordial in order to control it i know alzharagothi has

01:12:59.920 talked about that uh when people go too far on the on the concept that we are a nature religion

01:13:05.760 when in reality we are seeking to live not strictly in like symbiosis with nature but that

01:13:15.020 we create our own environments now it makes perfect sense not to destroy the things that

01:13:20.580 you need in order to create safety but that we are not simply you know laying to the wayside

01:13:26.820 and saying, you know, no, no, I don't want to put a roof over my family's head because I don't want

01:13:31.060 to cut down the trees. And anybody that knows history, you know, the Norse folk and the Europeans

01:13:40.580 or the Germanic Europeans had an overabundance of wood and used it often as a, you know,

01:13:49.420 to help and to create

01:13:51.980 order for their

01:13:53.560 lives.

01:13:58.600 So,

01:14:00.200 in 26,

01:14:03.540 Eldr,

01:14:04.580 Eldr heiter

01:14:06.220 med monum. 0.97

01:14:08.720 Eldr is the word

01:14:10.140 for fire.

01:14:12.080 Fire men call it

01:14:13.820 and flame

01:14:15.880 the gods.

01:14:19.420 By the wanes, is it wildfire? And again, this is emphasizing the nature of the Vanir, how they are diametrically opposite of the Jotunar. They are bringing in life and taking out death. 0.99

01:14:34.920 And one of the biggest kind of aspects of this is, you can see, it's lending towards the idea that the wildfire, that which kills and burns down nature. 0.99

01:14:46.240 Now, it's not always bad, but the Vanir being in the middle world with us would see that aspect.

01:14:55.040 um the biter by giants the burner by dwarves the swift in the house of hell

01:15:07.000 um and again i don't know why he used the um the double l hell um

01:15:13.920 but the the land of the dead the the place of death um and also to again anybody who's

01:15:24.500 been following vns it's the place away from time um the transitional point for the soul

01:15:31.660 and components of the soul to move back up through and be disseminated back out by the gods

01:15:39.540 into um the realms

01:15:42.940 uh so 27 answer me alvis thou knowest all dwarf of the doom of men what call they the wood that

01:15:58.720 grows for mankind in each and every world and again my referencing to the usage of trees for

01:16:07.640 the sake of creating. It's for mankind. And Alvis speaks, men call it the wood, the viver,

01:16:19.000 gods the mane of the field, seaweed of the hills in hell, flame food the giants,

01:16:28.600 and fair-limbed the elves. The wand is it called by the wains.

01:16:37.640 So again, reemphasizing usage. But bear in mind as well, this is for the poet to use kennings. But I do, again, find it absolutely interesting, the fair-limbed versus flame food.

01:17:00.480 And that's, again, reemphasizing primordial destruction versus natural law and its cyclic nature, or at least its attempt to achieve the zenith of perfect placement.

01:17:16.920 And so there's, again, resistance and natural law constantly fighting in the center world. And I bring this up in almost every class at Thorshof and why it is so imperative that Jotunheim and Vanaheim are in the middle.

01:17:37.340 They're not down in the lower world, or they're not off in these little bubbles that some people draw.

01:17:43.960 No, their opposites are important because they play out here in the middle world.

01:17:51.420 And Thor speaks in 29.

01:17:53.520 Answer me, Alvis, thou knowest all, dwarf of the doom of men.

01:17:58.900 What call thy the knight, the daughter of Noor, and each and every world?

01:18:07.340 And Alvis speaks, night men call it, darkness, gods name it, the hood, the holy ones high, the giants, the lightless, the elves, sleeps joy, the dwarves, the weaver of dreams.

01:18:27.700 so this is interesting and obviously that the the hymen verder thus far have not been mentioned as

01:18:39.820 being gendered um they're seen strictly as just their in their primordial sense um but you know

01:18:47.580 later on they are listed clearly as having you know willful soul and gender um and not is

01:18:55.120 of the night. Some people have tried to classify her as being Ostara, that somehow she is also 0.99

01:19:04.800 the Dawn. And I think that's extremely misleading. And I think that's, you know, again, pushing too

01:19:13.160 far because of the connection to her and the darkness. However, perhaps as time went on,

01:19:22.120 you know as the stories went on their um loss of the him and further in their entirety because you

01:19:29.800 very rarely see like the mentioning will be of like say soul and mauni but not day or not

01:19:39.080 and then sometimes or very rarely uh delinger will be mentioned and certainly in the old norse

01:19:45.080 Of course, Ostra is not mentioned. The name survives to be of the East, but the function kind of gets smoothed away. And I think that that, especially by the 12th century, you know, there was so much lost.

01:20:05.840 um so thor speaks and he says again and remember this is that that's the anchor point i was talking

01:20:15.780 about earlier he says answer me alvis thou knowest all dwarf of of the of doom of men

01:20:21.940 what call they the seed that is sown by men in each and every world so

01:20:31.220 So, men call it grain, and corn the gods, growth in the world of the wanes, the eaten by the giants, drink stuff by the elves, and in hell the slender stem.

01:20:52.080 Um, and I think this is a really great part to kind of bring up one, uh, the word corn.

01:21:00.260 I know we associate it specific, specifically with the, the, um, corn, um, uh, vegetable,

01:21:09.820 the, the, the grass that we grow, but the word corn, like with John barley corn, it always,

01:21:15.440 it meant a seed it meant a grain it didn't matter if it was barley or uh you know different types of

01:21:23.440 like rye corner or what have you um but the fact that we've named corn as in like nebraska corn

01:21:32.960 um has kind of thrown those things off um the eaten by the giants and the drink stuff and again

01:21:41.920 the the referencing um to laugustav the um the the same as the the ocean here but this one

01:21:53.040 really sticks true with of course the usage of um grain to create sacred alcohol um

01:22:03.200 Um, so, and I, I also like to let in Helgard, uh, the slender stem, the, um, remembrance of,

01:22:13.100 uh, life itself is, is, is fragile. Um, Thor speaks in 33, answer me, Alvis, thou knowest

01:22:22.880 all dwarf of the doom of men. What call they the ale that is quaffed of men in each and

01:22:31.620 every world and alvis speaks it is ale among men it is beer the gods among so that uh and if you're

01:22:45.780 looking over the old the old norse the word all the o l with um the um on top of it all is ale and

01:22:54.260 And Bjor, B-J-O-R-R, Bjor, is amongst the gods.

01:23:03.980 So a lot of folks, too, kind of get caught up on the idea that we have to drink mead and we have to drink out of a horn.

01:23:11.000 But our ancestors drank out of chalices.

01:23:14.060 They drank out of cups.

01:23:15.400 They didn't always drink mead.

01:23:17.800 Mead has become more of a cultural thing in Ausatru in modern age, which I think is fine, but it was not always the case.

01:23:30.360 And its availability was very seasonal.

01:23:34.700 In the world of the Waynes, the foaming, bright draft with the giants.

01:23:42.740 uh most people read that as bright draught um but it's it does also pronounce bright draft

01:23:49.500 need with dwellers in hell the feast draught with sutung sun two things there the fact that it's

01:24:00.500 it's clearly speaking of celebrate celebratory nature in the land of the dead um snorty speaks

01:24:08.820 of the transition between life and death as being gloomy as being you know again a judgment of your

01:24:16.500 doom you you are marked by the gods and your ancestors can either accept you or deny you

01:24:23.940 and it is again a house of all the calamity of man but once you pass through that you are

01:24:31.700 in the dwelling where the the mead and um celebration when you enter with your ancestral lines

01:24:41.460 um and then this is also i think one of the only mentions where they they bring up about

01:24:47.380 sutung's sons which of course is speaking of the primordial jotnar most people when they

01:24:54.740 think of jotnar they think of only the middle world and they only think of jotenheim and they

01:25:00.900 failed to realize that that's the the descendancy of emir but that there were yotnar before them

01:25:09.860 before even emir the and the first icer the first house excuse me the first house um

01:25:19.780 birdie lives amongst the yo the yotnar of primordial matter um while emir is still

01:25:30.900 you know, in his, um, early forms. So, um, Thor speaks. In a single breast, I have never seen

01:25:43.780 more wealth of wisdom old, but with treacherous wiles must I now betray thee. The day has caught

01:25:53.600 the dwarf. Now the sun shines here in the hall. So at this point, um, that leaves us to the common 0.98

01:26:07.900 knowledge that the audience would have that Lord Thor has been having him run his knowledge and

01:26:17.900 constantly baiting him with questions but the reasoning for it wasn't to get to know what he

01:26:23.580 knows or to challenge him in any way it was to get him to talk so that the dawn could come and turn

01:26:32.620 him to stone and make him no longer a problem thus showing the wisdom and the cunning that lord thor

01:26:40.620 or who is not often, you know, shown in this light, shows that.

01:26:49.200 So, Nick, can you post the image for today's show advertising it?

01:26:55.740 Oh, yeah, where he looks kind of like Humpty Dumpty.

01:27:00.960 That's why I chose this for the image of the show, because it entertains me. 1.00

01:27:04.160 yeah i i um i saw that when i was looking at uh on um there he is the midget turned to stone

01:27:14.800 um and his head's all egg-shaped and funny looking and i found this uh

01:27:23.200 this picture particularly humorous thank you nick for indulging me

01:27:27.460 um it's going to be a great doorstop no there you go and that's

01:27:35.220 i talk a lot about

01:27:39.820 one of the things that we run into often especially with newer people is

01:27:49.620 thor equals angry strength odin equals wisdom yord equals sea our gods are complete personalities

01:28:01.240 that have multi-layering dimension yes thor's outstanding characteristics are fury and might

01:28:10.980 and uh laying waste with his hammer but there's much more to him than that

01:28:18.840 um when matching wisdom

01:28:24.000 a god does not have to be the foremost god of wisdom to be leagues beyond you and i in wisdom

01:28:34.640 and i think that's really important to know the weakest of our gods is infinitely stronger than

01:28:42.360 the strongest of men thor isn't just strong and just able to defeat foes with his hammer this

01:28:53.280 this poem in specific is really well done in its you know demonstration of his of his mental

01:29:02.500 abilities of his cleverness his ability to you know trick someone and not just rando dwarf but

01:29:13.380 the dwarf that got the name all wise he turned the dwarf's wisdom into his comeuppance in this

01:29:23.540 which i think in and of itself is really kind of a a cool you know mic drop on it

01:29:32.980 so we got a number of a number of questions and i did a little bit of investigation into

01:29:43.220 this first one because i want to know what folks were talking about so first one ryan orion asks

01:29:50.820 i made a vid called who did the gods call which honors many leaders of focus groups including

01:29:56.820 mr mcnaland and you both however a viewer sent me a vid attacking the afa showing a text from

01:30:04.420 mrs mcnaland saying jews are allowed and also true can you address this

01:30:11.140 um yeah i can and i looked at that video in question

01:30:19.060 and the video so i will absolutely address the quote directly but video in question is

01:30:26.820 I think you could see fairly that it is by a very unpleasant person who is too cowardly

01:30:40.400 to use their actual identity and also seemingly allergic to any kind of success in life.

01:30:50.540 a very toxic trait amongst our folk to burn down any possible opportunity to ever be more successful

01:31:00.780 than we are and to moth to a flame on just infighting and nonsense there's a lot of that in 0.99

01:31:11.260 there but i think it's funny because he is the the silent what is it the silent folkish majority

01:31:20.540 with 43 followers of a video he made three years ago so i think that's kind of silly i don't know

01:31:27.900 exactly when the quote was from um but someone has brought the quote to my um uh my attention

01:31:36.780 years ago so i know it is an older quote and it may even have been the same person who brought it

01:31:42.300 to my attention um it was certainly something really ill-advised for sheila to have expressed

01:31:56.540 in the way she did and i think that it's you know if you were to get all of everybody's

01:32:04.780 text messages or emails or whatever, you're going to find people saying dumb stuff that

01:32:12.340 probably would have phrased different. I think that you could find an abundance of that on

01:32:18.040 on everybody. But I understand the disturbance in the quote. And the quote was

01:32:23.300 something to the effect of a guy reached out and said that he thought he had some Jewish 0.90

01:32:30.740 ancestry and sheila like no that's okay you can join anyway

01:32:34.780 there's more to that story but i want to address it head on because that's kind of what i vowed

01:32:43.180 to do here on victory never sleeps the point of that as best as i can ascertain and i have

01:32:52.320 no idea when sheila wrote that that's not something that i would have said or expressed

01:32:57.000 but it is what it is I think the point of that was

01:33:02.200 yeah if this guy had somebody who had some Jewish connection way deep in his ancestry that wasn't

01:33:09.660 the defining issue and I think that as uncomfortable or not good of a soundbite as that might be

01:33:17.280 it's worth noting there's a lot of people who are 100% of European heritage that converted

01:33:26.240 to Judaism in Eastern Europe over the centuries. That's unfortunate. Wish that weren't the case.

01:33:34.940 But I think to say that anyone who happens to have been of a Jewish religion anywhere in the 0.96

01:33:45.040 course of your DNA, that's a pretty high standard. That's something that, you know,

01:33:52.660 being honest the afa standard has always been and continues to be if you look white if you identify 0.84

01:34:02.460 as white you're white it's it is what it is and we can tell the difference if you come here with

01:34:08.600 the big you know with semitic features and jerry seinfeld nose and stuff and shalom my name's 0.72

01:34:17.160 Schmooly Schmecklstein, then that's probably a no, that's probably a hard no, because that's

01:34:23.820 something you, that's an active part of your identity and something you identify as racially

01:34:28.200 and not something that one of your ancestors may have identified as religiously. But again,

01:34:35.580 as I've said many times, we don't bust out the skull calipers. What we also don't do is welcome 1.00

01:34:40.940 in jewish members or think that's cool that's not the afa's position never has been if you 0.96

01:34:49.260 were advertising yourself as hi i'm jewish can i join the afa certainly not that's not appropriate

01:34:55.740 as a religious choice because we're outstruing your foreign religion if you say hi i am semitic

01:35:01.100 can i join the afa no of course not we are an ethnic faith um i think it was an attempt by

01:35:09.260 sheila to allay concerns by somebody that got with the skull caliper crowd and was scared they can't

01:35:16.940 possibly fit in because a third great grandparent might have had a jewish surname um and again that's

01:35:25.420 unfortunate but i think if everybody's ancestry was laid bare you'd have you know uncomfortable

01:35:32.540 instances in a lot of people's family trees um we are not you know as i've said we're not trying to

01:35:41.660 force 100 i don't think that's a realistic thing what we are trying to do is get people who

01:35:47.740 look white are white identify as white and are white people and that is our standard has always

01:35:54.940 been our standard wish i knew context of the quote or when it was from but that's not

01:36:03.900 the current position of the house true folk assembly it's not anything that i've

01:36:08.700 you know expressed or think is the case um it was worded extremely poorly

01:36:17.020 but happy to answer any additional questions on that or on any other content of that video

01:36:23.740 because it's kind of ridiculous um as some follow-up over here on the side he follows

01:36:31.420 up with maybe she didn't want to be harassed by the abl you know i don't think it was the

01:36:35.260 adl specifically she didn't want to be harassed by but that was and again i'm making assumptions

01:36:41.820 about the quote the quote was at least three years old because that was in the video but

01:36:46.140 but I believe that quote might have been before I became Oz Herrier Goethe.

01:36:53.220 If that's the case, and it was during Steve's administration,

01:36:57.960 that was at a time where the AFA was really trying to navigate

01:37:03.380 the growing tide of political correctness. And something that was really, really important to me

01:37:10.760 always has been since i became alls harrier gothi was to clarify those points in ways that were not

01:37:18.520 misleading there was a time where folks were very uncomfortable saying anything that might

01:37:27.640 might hurt us might get us in trouble might cause you know any of the social consequence

01:37:33.640 that you know having people call you racist brings um i am much more concerned that we are

01:37:42.720 explicit and honest in our viewpoint and our stances than fearful of that particular labeling

01:37:51.060 or social consequence and that's the choice that i made as i was here you get with you that i stand

01:37:56.600 by different people you know we're a little bit more concerned about those things and i think

01:38:05.640 it's certainly

01:38:11.400 i can understand somebody wanting to make sure they didn't say anything that hurt the afa's

01:38:17.240 reputation i think inadvertently it hurts the afa's reputation in a different way

01:38:21.640 ah okay and it turns out that was a very old quote during i say very old it depends on how old you

01:38:30.200 are how old very old means if it was during steve's time which uh the guy who answered who asked the

01:38:35.800 question ryan or ryan says that would have been pre-2016 and uh we have we have definitely

01:38:46.520 tightened up to make sure we are very clear on our position since then and that's been very

01:38:51.080 important to me to do so. But like I said, I think we all have put things in ways we wouldn't have

01:38:59.760 put it if we would have had time to think about it and given it a second thought. But that's

01:39:05.520 certainly one of those instances um okay so um in checking out that video a point that was raised

01:39:24.240 another question or point of interest uh guy in the video got real mad he got big mad that steve

01:39:37.440 talked about getting a 501 c3 because that was cowardly it was cowardice and purposely done so

01:39:43.840 that we couldn't fight or comment on racial politics um that's silly a lot of that video 0.91

01:39:52.480 was ah steve wants to raise money how ridiculous what's how we're able to have hoffs and do

01:39:58.880 anything guy in the video also made you know steve is purposely holding back anyone in the

01:40:07.280 in also true in america from getting hoffs

01:40:11.600 how there was nobody else that even made an effort literally the first person in america

01:40:17.600 to get us a hoff was stephen mcnowen can say what you want but that is the truth any kind of

01:40:24.640 recognizable public religious building that's absolutely the truth and to say anything else is

01:40:31.120 just dishonest and we have the old trope of anybody who's more successful than me is a fed or a jew 0.86

01:40:38.880 well that's what i meant when i said the allergy to success there's a certain number of people out 0.78

01:40:51.200 there that any possibility if you even dare to raise your head above the rim of the bucket

01:40:58.400 to be somewhat successful at something it has to be a nefarious plot from you know insert whatever

01:41:05.520 conspiracy you want there either it's jewish or it's a federal op or we're run by the cartels

01:41:13.280 or you know there's rothschilds or i'm a lizard person i've heard this lately um

01:41:23.040 it's never man somebody you know an old man spent his entire adult life building something

01:41:32.240 and committed to something and we're reaping some degree of success because of it that doesn't even

01:41:38.320 enter in or perhaps in doing so he won the favor of our gods and they blessed us with some success

01:41:45.520 that's not even fathomable it's always got to be some sinister hand out there and that's a really

01:41:54.800 depressing way to think and it's anathema to any kind of victory in life i hope that

01:42:02.240 I hope that our people can break free of that. And we're doing the very best we can to break our people out of that mindset because it's toxic. And in a lot of cases, it's deadly.

01:42:14.440 depression and a feeling of helplessness and can't possibly win in this world is literally killing

01:42:24.640 our folk and it's often a slow death it's also often one by one especially of our young men

01:42:32.800 but it's literally deadly to us and I want that to stop and one of the big hopes in the AFA and

01:42:40.480 this is a so Nick I know what I do want to talk about next week I know that I didn't figure it

01:42:46.940 out earlier today because I was trying to put it in uh figure out the the sexy tagline for it and

01:42:54.160 a cool picture for it and how we want to phrase it but that's kind of what I want to talk about

01:42:57.860 next week and I'll let you know who the host will be but I want to talk about the golden age that we

01:43:03.100 are that we are building within the husk of the wolf age around us and what that looks like

01:43:12.380 because keeping our eyes on that prize and our focus on success is extremely important

01:43:17.900 and so that's what we're going to talk about next week and i'm not sure sure who will be joining me

01:43:22.780 for it but i hope that everyone in this audience will join me for it because i think it'll be a

01:43:27.020 good thing to discuss and i'm looking forward to that um all right a question from so we low era

01:43:39.660 do you think our alphar and dc reside in both hell and low selfheim it's fun

01:43:46.860 so uh when you're talking about the alvar obviously certain alvar are living in leo south

01:43:57.900 time but i think what you're really talking about is what is commonly called doc alvar dark elves

01:44:06.940 um especially because you're connecting it with dsir the reasoning behind the the nomenclature

01:44:13.580 dark elves as opposed to swarthy or light is that dark elves are again shades of the mortal

01:44:23.900 that have been given providence over the bloodlines or over a land and the alvar

01:44:31.740 being connected to battle sites being connected to burial mounds being connected to um significant

01:44:40.700 land um uh sites is kind of again lending to the fact that dachauv are not in leo southheim

01:44:51.660 or in hellguard did they pass through hellguard yes um were they taken up yes were they given

01:45:01.580 position to do things in the middle world again yes it's the same with the dsir we

01:45:08.860 we speak about the desir as holding providence over the bloodlines of our people and this is

01:45:16.460 a great and sacred honor and we can hope that a uh a matron of our family is a desir um and

01:45:27.580 in that it's the the the ascension the being placed into the middle world and being presided

01:45:35.740 over the blood uh imagine it is like our ancestors are in that place in the the place

01:45:44.140 of our ancestors where they are where they are gathered but dsir are often and i think

01:45:50.780 uh even by non-ausitru they're they're often confused with like guardian angels if you will

01:45:57.980 um and we we see this in the lore and i'm not trying to pull too much from the lore because

01:46:02.380 again i i think that all too often we think like oh if it's not in the lore

01:46:09.980 but we see a couple of things that i i bring in is that every time that the d seer or the alvar

01:46:18.220 specifically the doc alvar the ones that have lived um they are in a mound they are on the on

01:46:25.820 the earth they they're uh someone sees them or has a dream about them coming to the house and

01:46:32.700 and um experiencing now i don't know too much i mean i i think somebody could argue the dsir are

01:46:41.580 in the realm beyond they're beyond the veil but again i believe that the dsir have an ability to

01:46:51.820 kind of place their hand upon the living i think that they are far more than just being beyond the

01:46:59.980 veil that they they reside i um i had an experience with a safe corner that spoke of my uh grandparents

01:47:10.860 being directly behind me when she spoke of them and uh describing them and and to be honest i

01:47:19.020 thought that she was um completely you know being false and then talking to my mother about the

01:47:28.140 description and then she shows me pictures that fit the description and i was like oh so the

01:47:36.700 the alvar and the dsir i believe are um the connection here in the middle world but if

01:47:45.020 But if you're talking about Leo's Alvar, Leo's Alvar are spirits of nature.

01:47:48.960 I believe they're, they're along with the Holy Frey.

01:47:52.060 They, the reasoning behind the Kennings that were said in the story tonight is about the, you know, the fidunctity and the great, you know, fertility of nature.

01:48:04.200 And those Alvar are of the upper realm and of light and of life.

01:48:11.040 um and then the dvergar or smart afar are of the material so um i mean to answer your question

01:48:20.700 uh flatly no i do not believe they are in leo selfheim or hellguard i believe they are here

01:48:27.160 with us and they are attached to things their weird has been woven by the gods two things

01:48:33.680 either bloodline or uh sacred places but it's alvar hard to pin down so

01:48:50.240 i don't believe that they are stuck somewhere and i don't think that makes logical sense so

01:49:03.680 if we believe that our ancestors interact with us or can interact with us here in Midgard

01:49:14.440 but we also believe they're in Helheim then clearly they can be in both of those places

01:49:21.080 if they are ascended to being Alphar and being at some kind of a higher level of existence after

01:49:30.620 death perhaps they can go to all three of those places maybe if they're exalted ascended heroes

01:49:37.020 they get to feast with the gods they can be in ausgard and helheim and maybe trouble is that's

01:49:45.180 an amazing thing for us to find out when we're on the other side of the veil um but i think it

01:49:50.300 it doesn't quite work as our understanding of space and dimensionality i think works really

01:50:01.940 different in the world that we live in than in the world that those who pass beyond the veil occupy

01:50:08.080 and i think that you know our gods can interact with us and be here in midgard they certainly

01:50:15.760 reside in ausgard but thor travels to jotunheim um our gods can travel to vanaheim they can

01:50:27.200 you know on special occasion journey to helheim

01:50:33.840 the idea that there's this firm line between all of those places i think becomes less and

01:50:42.000 less the more ascended of a being you are and the ability to travel between worlds becomes less so

01:50:50.160 much that the all-father can travel freely between all worlds because of of his ability to do so but

01:50:58.720 even then the journey into hellheim isn't a thing that gets done it's like you send a special person

01:51:07.920 on a special mission to go there and that's abnormal yeah it's not just all the gods on a

01:51:16.480 tuesday like yeah so i said well what the hell guys can i pick you up anything yeah try to hold

01:51:23.760 the meeting and that's the thing the further from where you're supposed to be the harder the transit

01:51:31.760 i think in a way as well but a lot of this is is speculation again i don't feel that

01:51:38.960 our ancestors are trapped we believe that as i said we believe that our dcr with us here in

01:51:46.480 midgard but certainly also they commune with the rest of our ancestors in helheim

01:51:52.560 the dead pass through helheim regardless um or most of them do

01:52:01.760 So I think that that's kind of,

01:52:04.060 we get speculative at that point,

01:52:06.260 but I don't think there's this firm of lines

01:52:08.520 as you may have in your head about that,

01:52:10.860 one the other side, but we'll see.

01:52:14.060 I have a question for Whitton's Fawn.

01:52:15.640 If you have time later,

01:52:17.540 do you have sketches or ideas of the appearance

01:52:19.880 of the other gods and goddesses,

01:52:22.080 or does it come to you when you find the spot for it?

01:52:27.360 I definitely have sketches.

01:52:29.080 um there it's an evolutionary process to try to create there's um there's a sense again of being

01:52:37.300 inspired um pulling ideas from all over and then trying to formulate them and then trying to

01:52:46.800 attain the perfect balance between a relatable sense to our adult folk and to our children

01:52:57.640 I think that my goal when, you know, drawing an effigy of the gods is to make the adults feel, oh, you know, wow, that's really nice or that's beautiful or it just kind of, again, a reflection of the way that we express our connection to the divine.

01:53:24.280 but i also want our children to be like wow that's really you know the the the bright colors

01:53:31.580 and again too because we're not you know our ancestors weren't drab um so the usage of bright

01:53:37.740 colors the usage of um royalty of um and a sense of i'm not gonna i mean i'm not saying it's

01:53:48.940 equating to because certainly the time period stuff that is drawn isn't the same but like a

01:53:55.340 majesty to it not directly arthurian but there's a majesty to the gods as they live in their realm

01:54:02.620 in the heavens um that is uh i think that that i like to shoot for i really don't i find a place

01:54:13.180 like with uh say you know uh lord odin in his wayfaring sense but there's also needs to be a

01:54:21.260 sense of a majesty to the gods um there uh there is a book uh i believe it's the author's last name

01:54:34.140 is kyrie and it's called old the uh old norse myths and uh it's actually two sisters um that

01:54:43.020 wrote the the book but the way they capture the majesty of the gods is kind of what i lean towards

01:54:52.380 in some of my inspiration for that so what uh the other thing is is maintaining consistency

01:54:58.060 thor in thor's hof will look like thor in other imagery and pictures um another again the

01:55:09.580 consistency of the sun and rod as a symbol of divinity around the head of the house and the

01:55:16.500 so um as far as like giving out sketches and stuff i'm still working on a lot of things so

01:55:25.840 I don't want to do that, but, um, they, you know, like currently right now I'm, I'm attempting

01:55:33.800 to finish up, uh, an image of New Order, Lord of the Seas, but also like where I worked

01:55:42.560 on, um, some of the, um, the, the heroes, um, the holy ones.

01:55:48.980 And so that's, that's hard too, especially when you have like, you know, no historical reference to go on. So, I mean, like, just a perfect example is Rod the Strong. He is, he was slain by eating a venomous snake because Olaf, Olaf Triverson put it down his gullet.

01:56:14.200 And so the imagery that is in that picture is him stepping on a serpent and clearly saying that, you know, beware of the ones who claim to be sinless because they're often the serpents.

01:56:31.080 So fun. Well, OK, first, as far as the images of the gods go, it's funny because something's fun and I talk about during the creative process and always look forward to that on different things.

01:56:44.600 and svan is a really amazing artist and i mean that in the truest sense of the word because it's

01:56:54.760 not just about like the ability to recreate realism but like he's able to imbue his piety

01:57:07.000 into the works that he does which is really cool but he and i often have to go back and forth

01:57:11.720 on like physique because i i would i prefer a more more swole oh than than this fawn prefers

01:57:22.120 so we gotta we gotta gotta do do a little bit horse trading on that but no it's really kind of

01:57:28.320 a it's a special process that i feel really blessed i'm able to i don't know be part of

01:57:34.960 is going back and forth with him on the creative process when he does the murals because it's really

01:57:39.660 special thing so we're waiting good things come to those who wait and you can't rush uh can't

01:57:46.220 rush genius so as we wait on some of this artwork that we need you guys may be entertained by nick

01:57:54.940 nick and my hand at some artwork because when we need art for our uh halo or our uh

01:58:02.940 holy house to true heroes on our website we've been going through and i've been finding

01:58:11.260 i've been finding images to doctor up and make fitting for them in the meantime

01:58:21.180 and nick has been helping me alter those in the digital space and put background and such to them

01:58:29.100 where we don't have photographs and while we await swan's um skilled artistry to uh bring

01:58:37.980 them to life in a more original way but it's entertaining and we work on a number of those

01:58:42.860 and nick's been a big help on those so um i feel like i oh i didn't skip a question there here's

01:58:53.980 the question go ahead i was gonna say just to let everybody know too the divinity is always a sun and

01:59:00.540 rod of gold and mortality is always a sun and rod of red just to to give people that clarification

01:59:09.660 and that the sun and rod with its 12 spokes is speaking about cosmic order and being connected to

01:59:15.900 it absolutely so the next question then is um

01:59:25.580 do y'all think maybe the icier were space travelers

01:59:29.420 my gut tells me we originally came off this world earth uh the tales of cosmic milk that feed

01:59:39.340 bursala stuff like that it's fun are uh are the icier spacefarers

01:59:50.060 um no i don't i don't tend to i don't believe the gods in that way i i believe that the gods are

01:59:58.300 are divine that they have spiritual form first and that is their form um they you know to manifest

02:00:07.340 physically um i believe it's possible for them um and i don't think it happens often and i you know

02:00:17.820 i am not one to say why um but i believe that the gods are interconnected to us through the well of

02:00:26.460 earth and that they all of the gods when they gather to counsel are not just marking the fates

02:00:34.380 of men but are also interacting with all of the elements that create time and so in essence the

02:00:41.500 gods are able to project time from themselves and as we perceive it um you know as we uh perhaps

02:00:51.820 gain insight or gain um a sense of of being messaged by the gods the gods are so woven into

02:01:02.620 to fate and time as it descends from them down into the middle world from that upper well.

02:01:11.060 That that is a large portion of that interaction. Whereas like we spoke earlier, Lord Thor

02:01:18.420 in his interaction of going and, and, and the kind of the, the shape of the hammer,

02:01:25.080 his the handle going up and down and to the sides his uh catalystic nature is i think

02:01:33.860 uh seems to be more prevalent or dynamic in the thought of our ancestors and then in the stories

02:01:40.180 um and of course lord ovin who is the dynamic god of the tripartite is able to go everywhere

02:01:47.240 um and uh you know i i just i think that um to see them as physical space travelers

02:01:56.660 um you know that opens up a lot of questions that go against my beliefs if they are uh spiritual

02:02:06.620 space travelers physical beings is there a limit on their time is it a limit on their age is the

02:02:13.180 story of the golden apples you know some allegory for like eternal space food or or what have you

02:02:22.540 i i just it doesn't fit with me because i believe that the the gods are divine so spawn is spawn is

02:02:31.420 very nice man um yeah no it's not a matter of belief the gods are gods um

02:02:43.180 you may believe differently if you do you are wrong the gods are gods uh they do god things

02:02:51.520 in that sense can they

02:02:53.500 transcend and travel through space if that's what they want to do for whatever divine reason they

02:03:02.060 want to do that sure but no the gods aren't ancient aliens they're gods um but again you get

02:03:12.180 to if you start extending what that definition means there's a lot of ways to cloud that or

02:03:20.620 blur the lines of that or whatever our gods are gods can they manifest physically certainly

02:03:26.500 must they manifest physically certainly not do they travel through space i don't know if they

02:03:34.560 want to that's not primarily how we know them and how we know of what they you know typically do but

02:03:41.700 if they're bored on a wednesday night maybe that's what they do i don't know um but their

02:03:47.380 very nature is gods implies that they can travel you know where they see fit there's a certain

02:03:54.740 level to where we you know we will never know the entire depth and breadth of what they can and can't

02:04:01.220 do but no that's not what we know them as as travelers from some far off place we know them

02:04:08.100 as creative forces of the world in which we live and occupy um our next question and i don't

02:04:19.620 understand it but perhaps fawn does could it be that the influence of our a and g's is ingrained

02:04:28.900 in our very blood rather than being a divine intervention from above ah nick says our ancestors

02:04:37.220 and gods um yeah i'm not hip with the kids mandy uses a lot of that at home too she'll use some

02:04:46.820 work jargon and i have no idea what she's talking about with the things all right cool

02:04:52.340 our ancestors and gods and games so i would love i got this one too this is similar to the last

02:05:05.060 question they're gods and our ancestors exist beyond the veil anything and everything we do

02:05:18.580 to diminish that or rationalize that into something other or something less cool or less

02:05:25.060 metaphysical or less literally awesome is a disrespect and an impiety now certainly

02:05:35.580 parts of our ancestors influence us from within our very blood certainly our gods influence us

02:05:43.740 from within no part of that takes away from the reality and their imminence in the divine realm

02:05:50.780 and their existence as real and differentiated personalities existing in our present, in

02:05:59.740 our past, and in our future.

02:06:04.180 Both of these questions, and I don't, again, I appreciate all the questions and I appreciate

02:06:09.640 you guys asking.

02:06:10.600 I'm not being rude to the one asking the question.

02:06:14.680 This is for the consumption of the people who are watching this and learning from the

02:06:18.380 answer to the question.

02:06:20.780 There is a, I've always, our challenge as religious Ossetruar is to reach upwards to try to better understand our gods and pull ourselves, you know, raise ourselves to their level.

02:06:45.080 there is a human tendency when we don't understand them to try to bring drag them down to our level

02:06:55.960 so that we better understand them the directionality is very important i would never

02:07:01.340 want to do anything that diminished my gods so that i could understand them better and hang out

02:07:07.880 with my homie Thor. That's not the right way to do this. I want to raise myself so I can be

02:07:15.440 better in communion with the mighty God, Aussothor. I don't want to eat chips on my couch

02:07:23.140 pretending I'm playing Xbox with my big homie with the red beard. And it's funny because, 1.00

02:07:30.400 like it sounds funny when I say it that way. There are the adorners of grandma's couches

02:07:38.960 that describe their faith that way. And that's really unfortunate. So that's why I get spicy

02:07:46.540 about the question. Certainly our gods and ancestors influence us within our very blood

02:07:51.200 and our blood and bones. But they also, and in a much more eminent way, influence and engage

02:08:00.240 the gift cycle with us externally. Svan, take it away. Yeah, that last sentence you just said

02:08:07.880 encapsulated everything I was going to say. But I need to take a bathroom break, so I was counting

02:08:13.620 on you to be more verbose. No, no, no. I will be more verbose. I saw that and I was like, oh,

02:08:18.940 never mind. Wait. So everything that Alshiragothi just said in that last sentence does encapsulate

02:08:25.900 What I'm about to say is, I absolutely believe that our gods and our ancestors are intimately connected through our metagenetics. 0.70

02:08:38.960 So one thing that you're going to find when you encounter the Ausitr Folk Assembly, when you encounter the Godar of the Ausitr Folk Assembly, there's going to be some major tenets that are going to be hit. 0.94

02:08:51.660 One of them is metagenetics. This is a founding principle from our founder, Stephen McNally. And this is what you're talking about, that connection that the gods through on the reason why the gods are connected specifically to their people and not to other people is through this, the breath and the creation of the folk extended even more so with the shaping by Heimdall.

02:09:19.800 So there is this layered connection.

02:09:26.960 And then, of course, too, with our ancestors, because we're intimately tied between all of them.

02:09:32.240 Um, however, you'll also find that a lot of times anything that involves making the gods archetypes, making the gods too internalized, um, the, the Ausitra folk assembly moves away from this because we believe the gods are, we believe in the gods, but we believe the gods are real.

02:09:58.520 We believe that gods are manifesting in the world through time, through cosmic order.

02:10:05.320 And the breadth and scope of that, we don't fully know.

02:10:10.100 And we see that a lot on VNS.

02:10:12.680 It's like it'd be very foolish for us to say that farthest sense.

02:10:20.080 You don't get that in a lot of other religions, especially the universalist ones.

02:10:23.700 Oh, no, their divine beings are just responsible for everything.

02:10:28.020 and, and everyone, and, um, you're on the, uh, you're on the insurance program. If you don't,

02:10:34.680 um, you know, maintain that covenant, you know, you get in the, the sizzler. Um,

02:10:41.560 we, on the other hand, don't speak about the out guard, the, the, the, the folk out. We speak

02:10:48.520 about the folk within, and we speak about the relationship that we have with our gods. They

02:10:53.960 are not just simply the gods um and that that is because of the blood so when you say rather that's

02:11:01.320 the part that kind of turned away raven was um you know ingrained in our very blood rather than being

02:11:08.200 divine intervention from above um we consider both um that there is the multi-faceted i know

02:11:18.200 you might hear some people say like as without so within as above so below um but in essence that

02:11:25.880 that grain of wisdom does ring true um a lot of people do it too when they they consider

02:11:31.960 yggdrasil and they consider the the human body or um yggdrasil and um for those special guys on

02:11:40.600 on x you know some of them the uterus um there's there's a a um i i'm making a vard reference sorry

02:11:49.720 man um so there's cyclical natures that do reflect these things and i've seen it and i

02:11:58.040 really think i've seen it um replay in the uterus no no no no and placenta talk oh you guys are

02:12:08.440 killing me. Um, no, no, no. What I mean is like, uh, when I give some of the classes, especially

02:12:16.920 like about the goddesses, I talk about, um, what is, uh, the German artist with the golden tears.

02:12:24.600 Uh, is it right? Right back. I, I'm not, I know I'm dropping this on you like super fast, but,

02:12:32.000 um uh you know there's these expressions of the gods that continuously come out of people that

02:12:41.040 may have no inclination uh another great example is i often connect the image of the manifest

02:12:48.720 destiny so here we have klempt gustav klempt gustav klempt's tears of gold

02:12:55.920 that's the holy freya and it actually is not Klimt it's it's often attributed to Klimt but

02:13:04.840 it was actually painted by Anne-Marie Zilbermann really now I've got to dig into this all right

02:13:12.240 I'm writing that down at least that's what I'm reading okay um let me write this down real quick

02:13:21.120 um but i either way again this this um this um growing sense it happened in the renaissance it

02:13:32.100 happened even in the dark ages where the the stories uh started to reemerge again over and

02:13:39.100 over again our folk cannot separate from the gods and their ancestors so we see it um i um the other

02:13:48.440 one was manifest destiny. We have this, you know, high emphasis on the Christian expansion

02:13:54.580 of moving westward, and yet suddenly they place upon this, the feminine aspect of manifest destiny,

02:14:04.840 and it greatly coincides with the corpus of body of the goddess Gevion, the prosperity and the

02:14:15.660 probability of prosperity of the land um the taking of the land in the stories that we have

02:14:22.120 you know she plows the land away from um sweden and we see her again when the manifest destiny

02:14:32.660 uh spirit shows up and she's floating above the folk um i i find it more often and i i don't

02:14:42.400 always write it down i do i remember um there's a band locally here in virginia and they were they

02:14:49.680 had a song uh called the cypress queen and the way they're speaking about the cypress queen in the the

02:14:56.800 song is clearly connected to yard or or nerf this amongst the tacitus version um and again it's just

02:15:05.040 this bubbling up nature of our folk we can't be separated from it but when you speak about divine

02:15:15.200 as interaction and i'm not speaking for the gods i know that they can do what they will um but i do

02:15:22.800 believe that a vast majority of the work that is done by the gods is done through the well of earth

02:15:30.200 that is in the heavenly realm and that it is up there for a reason it's the sense that

02:15:37.100 that wellspring descends down into the middle world and so they're touching of the skein

02:15:44.340 of that well creating the ripples that affect and the reason why the nornir and the gods

02:15:52.040 have synthesized to do these things um after emir's um death um so their interactions i think

02:16:04.340 are multifaceted can the gods physically manifest i wouldn't i would never say no they can't do

02:16:10.500 anything but just from observation i believe that the gods do interact in multiple levels whether

02:16:16.460 it's energy or whether it is uh you know phenomena of the of a natural kind or a supernatural kind

02:16:25.660 and also connected to our blood um but yeah we we the Alcetra folk assembly and the

02:16:35.580 the gothar will always err on the side that even though the gods are within us they are also

02:16:45.820 external and we must maintain that gift cycle and we must always attain the higher go for the

02:16:55.500 forward and upward with piety and with uh honor and with a great amount of desire to improve

02:17:05.820 to to become that which we believe the gods want us to be and the moment you kind of

02:17:12.380 of pull it into the body or maybe pull it into an archetype is when you start cramming the gods

02:17:20.720 into um frameworks that i don't think well one i don't think it's very pious but i also think it

02:17:28.300 doesn't function very well for the spiritual growth of the people um if we see things only

02:17:36.180 internally and we drag things only inward we lose sight of that which is around us and about us

02:17:45.460 the majesty and the beauty of the gods the terrifying nature of the and the destruction 0.99

02:17:50.580 of that that the yotnar can bring um the uh the natural law the inescapable cycles that the vanir 0.98

02:17:58.740 bring um we are deeply interconnected to all of these things so if you end up cutting and severing

02:18:06.180 that connection to the gods there's other things that are connected to us as well um that we will

02:18:13.840 lose uh scope of so don't i i and i'm speaking from the idea that there are tenets that the

02:18:24.200 Ossetra Folk Assembly clearly holds to that you can see when you um meet us versus perhaps if

02:18:32.800 you're meeting uh someone who thinks that the gods are archetypes and it's only psychological

02:18:38.120 and but that ultimately it's a lesson about us being um greater beings and willing to manifest

02:18:45.360 ourselves into god-like beings and it kind of gets into that Nietzschean um atheism and we're

02:18:52.920 not saying that that's not a proponent for you to attain your woed self we speak about that in the

02:18:59.820 soul, but we also believe the gods are external and have will and do things and interact with

02:19:08.220 us. So, um, the necessity to emphasize that I think is really, really important.

02:19:21.160 So I'm digging in this, uh, clumped rabbit hole to try to figure out the

02:19:27.380 truth of of the the uh authorship of that painting yeah um nick just threw the wrench right in there

02:19:35.800 on me he did but i i want to get i want to get to the bottom of that so i'm only seeing one source

02:19:41.780 that says sieberman so it may be wrong but yeah but she it looks like she did a bunch of paintings

02:19:47.480 that were deliberately like they weren't meant to be forgeries but they were

02:19:54.060 homages to Klimt that this might be one of, but the one that comes up isn't this, but a similar

02:20:01.900 one. But it says that she even like modeled the way she made paintings after his. So I don't know

02:20:08.540 if she made a similar painting along the same theme. I don't know. We're going to get to the

02:20:12.700 bottom of this. This has got our brains churning. For people that don't know, the painting is

02:20:19.000 reference or is is just the tears of gold but the connection of course is to the holy freya when she

02:20:26.920 sheds tears of gold when her inspiration when her it's fury when all the immensely powerful piece

02:20:35.240 um if nick finds a picture of it he can put it up for us but it's it's beautiful whoever did it

02:20:41.960 and either one of them did it with freya as inspiration um

02:20:50.280 so here's an interesting one i want swan to take this one first

02:20:54.600 oh he said the austral folk assembly errs on the side of divinity we don't err on the side

02:20:59.560 of anything we do emphasize the side of divinity but correctly so so that said uh the question is

02:21:09.000 do how do you guys feel about vril or the energy behind that if at all i think that's

02:21:16.360 a loaded question that has a lot of backstory and mythology and

02:21:25.160 a lot of stuff behind it i'm curious what house fawn's gonna gonna come at this well i i would

02:21:32.920 have to say um if if a word like symbols words and we spoke about this with the vulcan there

02:21:40.360 is meanings behind words that have connectivity and um i think that this word shares um and

02:21:52.520 parallels another word that i would simply use is is or law or or weird um and the idea that

02:22:01.080 we may be able to um understand it and in understanding it be able to interact with it

02:22:09.880 better um but i don't really utilize the word um i i know that um you know the the thule society

02:22:20.280 i know about um you know madame blavatsky and the theosophical society and a lot of the usage of

02:22:26.760 of um these uh this idea but i i think for me i simply call it orlaw i think that orlaw is the

02:22:38.520 core sense of energy that works around us and that we are deeply uh and that's what the gods

02:22:44.880 are actually working with when they work through the well um and that we too are um able to work

02:22:53.240 with it uh in different forms sometimes i think our will can make a blip um in the the grand

02:23:01.740 tidal wave or at least maybe just in the tiny area that we're in of all the movement of all

02:23:07.500 the energy and all the vibration and harmonics of the universe um the very stuff that lord odin

02:23:14.200 sacrificed himself into you know he needed to place himself in the tree on the tree in heaven

02:23:21.340 in order to be connected um you know through the roots and through the tendril tiny roots

02:23:28.340 all through the cosmos um can we um perhaps feel or move or turn some tiny modicum of of of that

02:23:44.500 around us i do believe we can i also believe that the the far more wiser because my runic

02:23:50.880 teacher spoke about this he spoke about the movement of blood and of will and the idea of

02:23:57.840 making runes that you know again change that or law around you um to to whatever consequences or

02:24:07.120 um whatever benefits but he also spoke of the observation of orlaw and the idea that

02:24:17.440 you know you could manifest and will and and pull and push things or you could learn to observe

02:24:29.040 and i'm not speaking in a lazy sense like um i don't want to do things so i i'm just going to

02:24:34.900 observe no the idea is that observing the way everything is rolling out and then knowing

02:24:43.300 exactly when to act knowing exactly how much pressure to apply or how much of a vacuum you

02:24:51.220 need to make creates you more of a symbiotic relationship with everything that's flowing

02:24:59.280 um and so he kind of proposed it as a two-house system and um i feel more apt to believe that

02:25:10.420 Vril or the concept of it is more built around trying to manifest will and to change things

02:25:18.780 versus simply the observation of it and learning kind of the sheet music of everything flowing

02:25:28.140 together. And so I just, I have a tendency to just utilize the word Orla. Actually, I'm not

02:25:35.960 even a hundred percent sure on the etymology of the word i know that it's usage in in like esoteric

02:25:42.060 what of real yes i mean i know it's usage in in uh esoteric um

02:25:51.380 uh germanic magic or germanic like occultism i also know that wasn't there a um wasn't there

02:26:03.000 a book that it was emphasized in as um i yeah i i just don't know the origin of it that much um

02:26:16.840 yeah it's a made up word well i say all words are made up it's a 1800s created word that doesn't

02:26:25.640 have existing etymology that can be traced and so this is kind of into my answer on it

02:26:37.320 okay i'm gonna i'm gonna use the step use the restroom real quick

02:26:43.640 all right so

02:26:44.920 the question is how do we feel about vril or the energy behind that and i think that's really

02:26:56.680 important we and i did it just a second ago and i didn't i retracted it immediately because i

02:27:02.760 didn't mean to be petty that way when someone creates a word for something there's a tendency

02:27:10.840 to ah that's made up i mean like i said i just did a second ago all words are made up

02:27:19.320 language is literally made up it doesn't mean it's not valuable and really important

02:27:25.800 and real but it's it is a creation of the minds of men um we use words to describe

02:27:35.880 things sometimes those things are imaginary and sometimes those things are very real i've mentioned

02:27:41.880 this in terms of like the gods the names of the gods othen never you know hi my name's othen

02:27:49.880 our people applied that name to him to express

02:27:57.960 the way that he manifested to them um

02:28:01.640 um the magical power of

02:28:09.080 the flowing energy of the universe and harnessing that is absolutely something that's real and

02:28:16.040 exists it being called Vril is a recent invention and the term Vril becomes tricky because it is

02:28:26.060 linked to a lot of

02:28:29.420 it's linked to a lot of things some of which are legitimate some of which are crack potty and odd

02:28:40.580 um including nazi ufos and strange and fantastical machines and guys on the internet that if you send

02:28:52.080 a dollar they can cure your cancer with their real magic and a lot of things

02:29:00.960 i think there's a lot of kookery around vril i think vril is a fun 0.94

02:29:09.360 tongue-in-cheek reference often now to male sexual juices um excuse my vulgarity but 0.96

02:29:19.280 but y'all pick up what I'm laying down.

02:29:25.600 So I think the term Vril in and of itself gets misused.

02:29:29.060 I think somebody suggested, you know,

02:29:31.760 perhaps a better word for what it means is owned,

02:29:37.860 I guess like the breath of life in a way

02:29:40.960 that magical currency enhances something

02:29:45.160 that is lifeless and makes it life full.

02:29:49.280 I think that's not a bad way to describe it.

02:29:52.260 The idea of an animating magical force, or divine force for that matter, that moves and does things, certainly.

02:30:06.000 And I think that Vril, I guess, is just as good a word for it as anything.

02:30:10.400 I don't think that Orla encapsulates it fully because it means other things.

02:30:18.720 but it certainly includes it i don't think on encapsulates it right or other or law

02:30:29.280 or any of these other things that we have um i think in a way you know luck and hymenia

02:30:38.960 also are equally as relevant to it but don't quite encapsulate it you know vril is kind of another

02:30:45.520 way of saying the force if we're going to use completely modern things then we get that whatever

02:30:54.480 that is and i don't think our ancestors had a precise word for it because there's so many

02:30:59.280 different things that interplay with it differently but there is a um in a way

02:31:07.120 way medieval um medieval wizards would would call it ether or or something the this other force out

02:31:17.680 there that you can imbue something with or that you can harness to do magical things

02:31:25.600 spiritual potency is what directs that and it very much fits in with the things that we talk

02:31:34.960 when I talk about magic and the ability to recognize synchronicity and to harness it

02:31:41.360 and direct it towards purpose. And I suppose that's Vril as much as anything else.

02:31:47.340 I don't think there's the perfect word for it. And because of the kind of nutty overlaps with

02:31:55.040 Vril, it's hard to distill it to be as sacred as it perhaps ought to be.

02:32:03.480 but yeah the concept i absolutely believe is the thing there is in

02:32:09.000 mostly intangible tangible by a few who are adept force that exists that can be manipulated

02:32:20.700 towards purpose by those who are skilled enough and

02:32:28.140 you know initiated enough to recognize it and be able to make use of it and in that way i do

02:32:35.940 think it exists and it's a thing and that may sound like a whole bunch of gobbledygook uh

02:32:41.280 but what's this what i got um

02:32:46.880 does conflict drive our progress i find without an external opponent we risk turning our swords

02:32:57.340 inward. And that hinders our own purpose in life. It's fun. If you would like to.

02:33:04.540 Sometimes even with a, with an outside conflict, we still turn our swords on each other.

02:33:12.320 You know, all too often people want to run the show themselves. They can't join the banner.

02:33:18.460 They can't join the team. I mean, that's the story of like Herriman the Cherusky who, you know, 0.98

02:33:23.360 unites the tribes to fight and then they end up, you know, eating each other alive. Um, but no, 0.96

02:33:30.860 yeah, conflict, I think does progress things on a broad sense. I think that if we speak about

02:33:42.360 conflict, there's never really just one external, there's never really one internal.

02:33:49.680 there's many things that we have to battle against but it is that conflict that pushes us forward

02:33:57.000 that makes us um reach i i like i was here ago he spoke about like even the conflict of life

02:34:07.000 the idea that life is not permanent and so striving to go for something pushing harder

02:34:15.460 making better um but not always too i mean like you look at like your children

02:34:21.580 and you may that might spurn you on as well and maybe that's deviating away from the question

02:34:27.920 i think that conflict is a huge component towards progressing forward in things um it's just that

02:34:34.760 whether or not you choose your battles wisely and what the ultimate goal of your progressing is

02:34:44.080 um kind of like an escalation of a force if it's an it's an immediate threat yes you got to

02:34:51.440 deal with that right away um but if it's like an ever-present force of aggression against you or

02:34:59.160 against your family or against your people then what you need to do is focus on what best way

02:35:06.360 to combat that and that oftentimes comes in forms that people don't want when they have an aggressor

02:35:14.000 When they have a conflict, they want to go and run at it. They want to get led into every ambush. They want to catch every, you know, they want to silhouette themselves on the hills. And more often than not, it's, it's about acquiring resources. It's about training, you know, and I speak about this in military terms because I was in the Marine Corps, but it is, it's about, say like,

02:35:44.000 reiterating um things amongst your your family or your people that they need to learn in order

02:35:51.200 to withstand you can't just go running off into the fights every single time so i don't know that's

02:35:58.120 a really cool question i think it's just i can't give definitive other than yes i think conflict

02:36:04.220 does breed progress um our folk have always been um a people of war but again how you manifest

02:36:15.100 you're dealing with that and um and not getting caught up in the need to like

02:36:23.100 go and and and you know slay the legend of the dragon without actually seeing the dragon

02:36:32.300 ever um versus you know building upon yourself and building upon your folk and

02:36:38.860 kind of focusing on that that positive progress so i think that we can look at conflict in some

02:36:47.740 different ways and like in literature there's um i'd say it's a theme in literature when you're

02:36:55.420 writing a narrative there's man versus man man versus nature man versus self man versus society

02:37:04.140 and it's very true that necessity is the mother of invention i think conflict absolutely drives

02:37:13.180 us forward and it gives us something to to overcome it lays a challenge before us that needs to be met

02:37:21.500 it's easy to be lazy the things that make us not lazy are very often needs or you know conflict

02:37:32.800 there's man i'm hungry i'm real lazy but i'm hungrier than i am lazy so i'll get up and get

02:37:39.320 some food fundamentally there's all kind of pressure that becomes a driving force there's a

02:37:46.240 pressure in sexuality that makes people go out and mate there's a pressure in emotional need for

02:37:53.760 people that also promotes coupling and being part of and engaging with society there's internal

02:38:01.040 pressure for a lot of things and conflict is a form of that you're right our people are particularly

02:38:10.400 terrible at dealing with the peace can deal with the conflict but when there's nobody to fight

02:38:18.560 we sit around and try to pick each other apart and dwindle ourselves into nothingness

02:38:24.000 much like the video the gentleman who made the video that we spoke about earlier that is a

02:38:28.800 i did not realize how epically terrible our people are afflicted with that until i

02:38:41.520 became involved in in alsatru and and in i don't know the greater

02:38:49.920 racially aware movement of our folk

02:38:52.720 that's why we lose the times that we lose is when we turn upon one another and that's happened you

02:39:02.520 know it happens all of the time now unfortunately but it's happened to us throughout history if we

02:39:07.760 look at the times that we are able to stand together there's nothing in this world that

02:39:13.060 can stop us when we see the times that we fail

02:39:16.700 it's very seldom due to an external foe it's very often due to us turning upon ourselves

02:39:24.660 and i think that's a very toxic trait of our people um but yeah when we have a need that we

02:39:32.340 have to overcome and part of that's the fight or flight thing there's a certain you know and we've

02:39:37.860 all encountered this in our life there are people when presented with a challenge they curl up in a

02:39:43.020 ball or they run from it or they practice forms of escapism or the heroes choose to overcome it

02:39:55.180 when there's something like you can't do this oh yeah watch this you know well if you don't do x

02:40:03.080 then you know this bad thing is going to happen to your family or to you okay well we're going to

02:40:09.180 overcome. The ability to overcome challenge and to overcome obstacles is something very

02:40:18.080 beautiful about our folk and something that our people are able to do in a way that far surpasses

02:40:25.100 others. It is a beautiful trait of our folk. And it's one that, that's why when I talked about

02:40:34.080 earlier the idea of hopelessness you lose all of the games that you don't play and every time you

02:40:43.720 know you're called out on the field and you don't show up it's a loss when we raise generations of

02:40:51.480 our young people especially our young men with the idea that they cannot succeed and they don't try

02:40:56.840 when our people have amazed

02:41:01.280 and built this world

02:41:03.960 when they were raised with the idea

02:41:06.520 that you can do anything you put your mind to

02:41:08.760 when our especially our young men are taught

02:41:12.960 that there's nothing beyond them

02:41:15.100 if they just try their best

02:41:17.260 amazing things happen

02:41:20.880 earth-shaking things happen

02:41:23.360 um epoch changing things happen we need to re-instill that in our youth

02:41:32.300 and when I say our youth I don't just mean the children um there's a lot of

02:41:39.960 men entering their 30s that are still in that youth phase because of the situation we find

02:41:46.940 ourselves in. But yeah, recognizing conflict and rising to the challenge has always been a

02:41:55.700 powerful, powerful force in uniting our folk and getting our folk to move forward with amazing

02:42:02.040 results. Our next question, what is the AFA's view on oaths, boasts, and other binding words?

02:42:11.220 So there's the real politic and the AFA's view on it, and I really don't think there's a lot

02:42:16.920 a lot of um deviation or or nuance to it oaths are really valuable and important

02:42:33.480 we understand that it is a fundamental sacrament of our faith to take holy oaths and to live up to

02:42:41.640 them when you make an oath in a religiously recognized context it becomes worth more than

02:42:50.120 the sum of its parts and there is more glory than on the face of it and achieving it

02:42:57.720 when you fail in that there is greater infamy than would otherwise be assigned to it

02:43:03.640 we take those things really seriously as a church and as a faith realistically our folk are not

02:43:12.920 worthy of oaths at this point by and large we have lost the social binding to where that means

02:43:21.280 stuff oaths are binding in the spiritual realm but what gave the oath so much power to our

02:43:30.200 ancestors was you were known, you know, whether you were a man of your word or not, and if you

02:43:38.040 were not trustworthy and you were a breaker of oaths, that was amongst the highest of, just like

02:43:43.280 in the Old West, if you're a horse thief, that's one of the worst things you can be, and if you

02:43:49.080 were an aussituer, an oath breaker is one of the worst things you can be. Unfortunately, we are not

02:43:56.780 buttressed with social convention that has extreme prejudice against oath breakers in these days

02:44:04.460 so far too many of our people inside and outside don't take oaths nearly as seriously as they ought

02:44:11.580 to and we see that all around us and it's a cultural change we are attempting to make

02:44:18.700 but unfortunately we are not there yet and we do realize that so we are very careful

02:44:27.660 in oaths in oaths that we take in oaths that we accept and brick by brick we're trying to

02:44:35.020 rebuild that structure to where the oath is held as sacred as it once was but we are a

02:44:40.940 long ways from achieving that at this point do you have anything that you would like to add on that

02:44:47.260 Yeah, I would say that one thing that we have witnessed over time is that people make oaths, especially within religious context, and then turn on them without any forethought of basically facing or ending or breaking.

02:45:17.260 excuse me not breaking um putting to rest an oath i think a lot of our folk fail to realize

02:45:26.220 that oaths were not just something that you made and then that was it there were certain types of

02:45:32.940 oaths like that but if you are if you make an oath to fulfill an obligation and then you no longer

02:45:39.020 can and you reach forward to the the the other side of the oath the other uh whether it's a person or

02:45:47.260 group of people and you say, I'm no longer able to fulfill this. Um, that takes a lot of, uh, of,

02:45:54.700 um, or thought and, and it takes a lot, I think of personal reflection to do so. The other is if

02:46:02.140 you attempt to, you know, leave the oath and you are afforded a chance to explain yourself,

02:46:08.660 that is a huge level of, of benevolence on the other side of the oath. And you should

02:46:16.140 absolutely do that. Otherwise, if you leave, if you break, if you run, if you turn, then you are

02:46:25.160 doing that which the oath binding is, you know, holding you. And the other thing about oaths is

02:46:34.320 I believe that oaths are directly connected to your soul and to your haminya and to not

02:46:43.760 um place that that state of let's say you take an oath and you need to um renegotiate it based on

02:46:54.520 factors around and a lot of people get in their head like once an oath is made

02:46:58.980 i can't do that and it's like no you you can it's it's a it's a thing um in um in in our history

02:47:09.820 but if you don't do that

02:47:12.500 you are drawing away from your soul

02:47:14.520 so what I think

02:47:15.840 is really trying to emphasize

02:47:18.160 is our social strata doesn't think this way anymore

02:47:20.760 and it's super important

02:47:23.060 that we get to the point

02:47:24.680 where our culture

02:47:25.840 where our folk nation and community

02:47:27.740 looks at oath making

02:47:30.400 and oath taking

02:47:31.800 as a

02:47:33.800 testament

02:47:35.040 and then a processes

02:47:37.260 that has your honor in line and is holding your honor in society,

02:47:42.620 but also holding your hominia in your soul.

02:47:46.020 And so you should take great care to either, you know, deal with that. 0.93

02:47:51.660 If you swear to protect someone and then you can no longer do that

02:47:55.940 because you get a debilitating disease, you don't run from that oath.

02:48:01.160 You turn and you reach out to the other side of the oath and you tell them

02:48:05.840 and you face up to the situation and this allows you to move away from that oath or have that oath

02:48:13.380 changed or dissolved without your honor being lost and without your your soul being drained

02:48:19.540 um and and again you know vice versa if you um you know if you take an oath with someone and

02:48:28.640 uh you're going to be loyal to the end and then they all of a sudden just you know fall into

02:48:33.900 dereliction they become absolute degenerates and and they're you know they're doing drugs and and

02:48:39.900 living a life that is you know not befitting their ancestors you have a right to step forward

02:48:46.780 and say look when i took this oath i took this oath to be loyal to a person who is not this person

02:48:53.340 and i we this needs to be ended um there's a lot to that that i think uh people don't get with

02:49:01.900 oath ethics a lot of it's just simply i made an oath and that's where i stand with

02:49:09.580 you know with my brother or that's where i stand with these people and i am trapped and i can't do

02:49:15.260 anything um especially like situations like that i see that a lot where people make oaths into

02:49:21.020 things and then it turns the other side turns derelict and um and then they just feel trapped

02:49:27.420 um so there there is some of that oath ethics that i i think we need to learn as a culture again

02:49:34.320 the other two is when you make oaths to yourself um and and i have made an oath to i made an oath

02:49:43.020 to stop drinking um and i had three witnesses and i actually wrote it out i think it's very

02:49:49.020 important that you take it very seriously especially when you make one for yourself but

02:49:54.280 but the problem with that is I don't believe there is as much negotiation when you make an

02:50:00.480 oath for yourself. I think it's actually even harder and that, you know, it's when I, when I

02:50:07.460 speak about renegotiating or when I speak about, you know, properly and honorably stepping away

02:50:13.180 from an oath that really involves multiple parties, one or two. Um, but when you do one

02:50:19.460 for yourself i think you should not take that very lightly and when you do you you know you take it

02:50:26.580 seriously and um you make you know you let everyone know but you're not actually like binding them to

02:50:33.780 the oath you're just making them a witness um so yeah those two just you know be careful but

02:50:39.940 but Othing is generally in symbols,

02:50:43.940 we see boasts and we see toasts towards each other.

02:50:51.300 And very rarely is a thudler overworked at an AFA symbol.

02:51:03.640 Yes, Vaughn misspoke when he said that he believes.

02:51:07.840 he meant to said is oaths are absolutely tied to your soul um

02:51:16.880 it's hard for me to speak as the total that's another thing where it's fun you got a ring on

02:51:22.240 your finger put that back in the mail if you're not going to speak with authority

02:51:27.760 i know good you are fully entitled to speak the things that you know to be true with authority

02:51:33.920 and and you do you're just nice and you don't want to impose upon people too much but it's

02:51:39.760 important to not equivocate some things that are true we know these things are are true

02:51:45.600 um and our ancestors have always known these things to be true and i think that something

02:51:50.880 special and remarkable about them is not only do we know that they are true but

02:51:57.920 But whereas the overt religiosity of them may change context, they are culturally true

02:52:11.520 up until we stopped understanding that our genitals reflected our gender.

02:52:19.180 Up until very, very recently, that was sacrosanct, and we all knew that. 0.52

02:52:27.920 You know, we got kids listening. I forget that I'm as old as I am when I talk about, you know, my father's generation or my grandfather's generation.

02:52:36.280 Maybe I'm talking about the people listening. It's great grandfather's generation.

02:52:40.600 But within not very, you know, within living memory, a man's word was his bond.

02:52:45.980 That was a fundamental American value. I have to believe it was a fundamental Western value.

02:52:52.160 but just knowing culture your oath wasn't expressed in an also true context but if you

02:53:02.400 swore an oath on a bible on something that culturally we held to be a religious relic

02:53:08.020 that oath was you know that was binding that would win court cases that would sentence people

02:53:13.700 to death or let people off that meant everything specifically in this country up until a certain

02:53:19.560 amount of time a white man's word meant everything because culturally that was a fundamental like

02:53:27.040 no this man does not break his word that's not what reputable upstanding white citizens would

02:53:35.800 do because it was a European value that was so fundamental to who we were um

02:53:41.400 that's personified in western culture and in cowboy culture and in the movies in the 20s

02:53:50.020 through the 50s and 60s that exemplified that as a fundamental American value. You see that

02:53:55.640 in court to this day swearing oaths. You see people entering into the military or becoming

02:54:01.960 citizens or testifying in court and they swear oaths. Those things used to mean something or

02:54:10.640 they take a political office. Very often we've seen that as just a silly formality in this day

02:54:18.840 and age, unfortunately. But within living memory, it wasn't thus. Oaths are extremely important and

02:54:25.520 I want us to get back to that place because whether we recognize their importance socially,

02:54:30.300 they are attached to your soul. Our gods and your ancestors, every one of those generations that I

02:54:37.420 mentioned from living memory back into the dawn of our race they judge you by your ability to stand

02:54:45.020 by your word or not and that matters it's just really unfortunate if you don't realize that

02:54:52.300 matters until you find yourself on the other side of the veil um and as we've seen we don't see the

02:55:01.500 social consequence for oath breaking as much in modern house and true when it happens but

02:55:08.060 what we very often see and svan and i've been doing this long enough is those who are overtly

02:55:16.220 known for their being oath breakers often have a terrible amount of misery in their life and their

02:55:23.820 uh their hymenia rots and that rot often takes their families and friends down with it

02:55:35.980 what are your views on basically uh icelandic sigil magic on galdra brook uh the galdra book

02:55:45.420 the august helmer the veg visir things of that nature spawn i know you got some thoughts

02:55:51.500 yeah um wisdom's on folks well so when you had the books like the raw the bulk or the

02:56:01.500 slaughter bulk and they were written by swan the black and you know these these um 0.98

02:56:08.940 uh wizardly fellows what this is really talking about is a time where there is a great influx of

02:56:17.100 medieval magic flowing into the nordic lands and specifically iceland and i spoke about that

02:56:25.980 earlier the icelanders prided themselves on being able to write they had the book processed down

02:56:31.820 especially because of the vellum and um so the natural production of that is as as christianity

02:56:41.660 starts dealing with its foreignness and it also has a long-standing tradition of occultism within

02:56:49.820 it um kind of running parallel it naturally flowed up there and it was influenced greatly with um

02:56:59.180 nordic occultism if you will um pre-christian occultism and that's what you're really getting

02:57:05.500 is this this synthesizing of the two and so a lot of folks will say oh it's talismanic magic and it

02:57:14.460 has nothing to do with the vikings and they are correct it has nothing to do with the vikings

02:57:18.540 but the nordic people are synthesizing this not based out of a vacuum they are placing

02:57:27.260 things into it um as far as the absolute functionality of it i feel that with a lot

02:57:39.260 of folks when it came to the catholic church there was a sense that they could gain power

02:57:46.220 by doing these things i think that there was a lot of stuff there where they um they felt

02:57:54.620 like they needed more control i think that um you know like after the um malifus malefactorum

02:58:03.420 the witch the the witch the hammer of the witch um you know that that was a common thing of the

02:58:09.340 catholic church and then later on they they came on to say like no a lot of these products of of

02:58:15.420 this um evil is again just being in juxtaposition to the power of the church or or the uh presence

02:58:26.220 of it so i don't um i mean i don't think that talismanic magic especially like the seal of

02:58:36.460 solomon and all of that stuff when you look at that stuff that's not nordically based but when

02:58:41.420 you go in and look at the golden book there are huge nuggets of good usable and historical

02:58:50.860 referencing towards the way perhaps that our ancestors thought of of magic the idea of placing

02:58:58.860 runes or placing staves in certain areas whether it was under the arm or in in the

02:59:05.100 footprint of something on the road um i don't think that that deals as much with the medieval

02:59:13.020 um occult i think that has a lot to come back so i i would say it's worth looking into um as far

02:59:22.140 as the popularity of the of the vavisir um or the um helm of all um i mean we know that the

02:59:31.740 helm of all most likely was not used like by any viking during any viking battle it was probably

02:59:38.700 not placed on shields or or helms or what have you um but again the symbol there starts to grow

02:59:47.580 and have its own presence it has perhaps its own um power of that time um so flag on the play for

03:00:00.700 a second we don't know that and what i and when i say that i want to say that things are often an

03:00:08.140 evolution of other things we know that the helm of awe is a viking concept and the algis and

03:00:18.220 multiple directions was absolutely used well and and i say that to say this when you look

03:00:24.380 at the sonnenrad that we use as a halo around the heads of our heroes

03:00:31.980 people want to complain no but wait that's not like the ancient ones that's like the nazi one

03:00:39.340 yeah for the same reason it's a solar one that's 12 spoke but when you look at them you see the

03:00:44.380 progression very clearly you see ones with a variety of different spokes to them in the

03:00:51.500 germanic migration period you see them very specifically in the westphalian area of germany

03:00:58.540 you see them in a number of different locations with a different variety of spokes i've seen six

03:01:04.140 i've seen four i've seen eight i believe i've seen nine all with the same patterning to them

03:01:12.300 so there's an evolution of symbology and while the symbols as they're displayed in the galder book

03:01:20.700 aren't exact replicas of prior things many of them very well have roots in prior times and in

03:01:32.620 the folk memory of our of our people and get evolved over time into things so yes the august

03:01:38.140 helmer in the way that you get the tattoo that you got on the guy at the gym shoulder is not

03:01:43.740 the one that was likely used in a viking context the idea of radiating our runic imagery outward

03:01:54.460 is absolutely an ancient concept and gets used a lot of times so

03:02:00.540 there's a lot to sigil magic that's

03:02:05.260 draws upon imagery that's important to a people and you can use imagery that's jewish if you're

03:02:12.780 making jewy sigil magic you can use christian imagery if that's what you're using i imagine

03:02:19.740 that other faiths use imagery that makes sense in their context i was going to say very little

03:02:26.780 difference between those when you look at the the jewish and christian yeah but if you want

03:02:31.900 to use the christian one you got to use the like torture devices i think that's really odd just as

03:02:36.860 a thing uh yeah i think that is an odd symbology um but but i digress if that's what they want to

03:02:47.100 do that's that's their that's their thing i don't think that we're i think we're in the same place

03:02:54.140 when you say that because um i was saying like the core concepts oh of course we are i yeah i

03:03:00.940 i'm just wanting to point out a concept that i don't think people were talking about those

03:03:05.020 symbols are not viking symbols at all and to think that they are as silly but they are often made up

03:03:11.100 of viking symbols and they very often have their roots in evolutions of symbols that were familiar

03:03:20.460 to the vikings but i think people need to also realize

03:03:23.980 also true has

03:03:28.300 to say that it has nothing to do with vikings is an overstate is like a that's overstating it

03:03:38.600 but the reason that it does was vikings happened to practice also true and from the viking age is

03:03:47.040 where we get our literary tradition but also true in a com in a legitimate and unbroken format was

03:04:00.400 practiced from you know a little over you know from about a thousand years ago all the way back

03:04:11.280 to the very beginning of our folk and is practiced again it's just as legitimately practiced by us

03:04:17.120 today as it was by vikings as it was by migration age germanic tribes as it was by the goths as it

03:04:25.040 was by the most ancient aryan you know folks riding with the with the wheel and the donkey

03:04:34.000 had the donkeys pulling their chariots on the uh on the steps and to reject imagery because that's 0.54

03:04:44.000 not how the vikings did it is well now i can't say something dignified after i made a silly voice

03:04:51.360 but what i was gonna say is

03:04:55.760 it's sometimes it's come by very honestly by new people that don't

03:04:59.360 have a mature understanding of it yet and that's fine

03:05:04.000 it's by people that have been around for a long time sometimes it's a willful ignorance or or a

03:05:08.960 lack of taking a mature view of our faith um may i say one other thing about this say all the things

03:05:23.440 you want well i wanted to bring up that does it have relevance it was synthesized it was

03:05:31.680 born in the nordic people and a lot of symbology throughout europe england germany uh christianity

03:05:42.640 was synthesized in and there were as we spoke before it's in the blood you can't escape it it's

03:05:49.840 it's part of us the gods kind of do manifest in our blood and so you see that happen a lot with

03:05:57.760 other you know imagery and um so i think the symbols have relevance and i think that it's it's

03:06:06.000 more about to how the culture kind of uh accepts that relevance um i see this a lot with the um

03:06:16.480 the othala rune i i i get this a lot on the internet where like um you know some shmarmy

03:06:24.160 neck beard is is gonna say that the the oath of law rune you use is the nazi rune and it's like

03:06:31.440 the the nazis used it yes but they got it from a german manuscript they pulled it out of their

03:06:38.800 history it was synthesized amongst their people this wasn't something they just pulled out of the

03:06:45.360 air and that a lot of these symbols become synonymous with us as germanic

03:06:53.680 arians whether they don't want it to be or or not

03:07:01.360 note out here to adults listening to the program

03:07:04.000 whatever your views on the second world war or on european politics of the 20s 30s and 40s

03:07:24.000 the government of germany and all of its people during that time didn't just decide to do all of

03:07:30.640 the things to see how evil they could be they did a lot of things to be innovative or because they

03:07:39.200 were powerful or because they were efficient or because they worked well or because they were

03:07:44.000 good stuff we don't decide we can't do space exploration because rocketry was developed by the 0.97

03:07:51.200 nazis yeah and it's awesome it was really a very efficient way to project things from

03:08:00.400 the ground to space or to very high earth orbit symbols that are rooted in our shared cultural

03:08:09.600 past are cool because they look cool they resound with our folk soul and they have magical potency

03:08:17.920 just because it happened in germany and you know a 30-year period in the last century doesn't mean

03:08:24.080 it was inherently evil or bad or or whatever the innovations of an entire nation or at times an

03:08:33.920 entire continent aren't that's that's not a mature view of things that's silly on the face of it

03:08:43.680 these symbols are are very often taken from what was called house marks and symbology throughout

03:08:52.640 central europe and their roots go back into ancient times and yes they were made use of by

03:09:01.520 certain political regimes at certain times the same way that we all have used symbols throughout

03:09:07.280 history because they harken back to you know points of ancestry or images of the past that

03:09:14.640 we all celebrate or you know the same thing's not applied there's many versions of christian

03:09:22.320 crosses that have been used for all manner of different on both sides of the aisle political

03:09:29.120 things or racial things by because it's a universal faith by a myriad of different ethnicities for

03:09:38.640 different specifically ethnic purposes or for military units or for civic organizations or for

03:09:45.280 flags or for this or for whatever you hearken back to symbols that have potency and power

03:09:51.200 and these symbols harken back to the ancient germanic past so yes german

03:10:00.720 political and military and anything else are going to use germanic symbols that only make sense

03:10:08.640 english people are going to use english symbols and if you take them back far enough they become

03:10:13.760 the same symbols that's just kind of how migrations of peoples work

03:10:20.560 Yeah, hearing people say, oh, they appropriate, or they stole this, etc. is kind of ridiculous. And for anybody that's interested in learning, the symbol is called Ergra. It's in a medieval runic manuscript. I think Nigel Pennick speaks a great deal about it. 0.87

03:10:40.060 so um and then our next uh our next question why does the afa not view the eddas as scripture

03:10:54.700 because the word scripture is loaded and means something different books that we

03:11:01.180 typically encounter that we would call scripture are specifically written for that purpose

03:11:10.060 And I do think that the Eddas are holy, but I think them being scripture is different. The author of the Eddas, there's no point where they're, and then Odin came unto me in the cave and told me to write these things in this way.

03:11:26.560 That's just not true. That's not how they were created. Very often within the texts themselves, it's understood that they're written for poetic instruction or they're written for comedic verse structure.

03:11:44.160 and there's different purposes the poems are written for when you look at something that is

03:11:49.440 understood to be scripture like uh like um the quran muhammad says no and then i went into a cave

03:11:59.360 and then allah told like took hold of my hand and made me write the stuff this way or you know

03:12:06.000 know the uh the christian the christian bibles or the the the torah all of those things those

03:12:14.240 different scriptures in there the the pretext for them being scriptures is that they're the divine

03:12:20.400 word of their god through an oracular function and them writing them down that way there's no

03:12:29.840 there's no claim or pretext that that's what we have in the edits now the edits are absolutely

03:12:37.680 holy they're they're sacred lore they're awesome they're special they're you know exalted they're

03:12:46.000 all of these things but they're not they tell stories that are the divine inspiration of our gods

03:12:55.120 but a documentary about the book of matthew the documentary isn't scripture

03:13:05.680 it talks about scripture and we have parts of our lore that express divine truth

03:13:16.960 but the telling of the story itself isn't done with that intention and with that caveat to it

03:13:23.440 and if it was it would be done in a very different way it's not to diminish the eddas at all it's

03:13:30.080 just to be to be honest and to be truthful one of the big things that's very important to me is

03:13:34.960 i don't ever i'm never going to lie to you people me it's fun or not in the business

03:13:42.640 of telling you things that we do not believe are absolutely true um it would be helpful to just say

03:13:49.120 No, the Eddas are lore.

03:13:50.920 They're divine scripture.

03:13:52.440 This is the word of Odin.

03:13:53.460 Everything I say flows from the mouth of the All-Father.

03:13:56.460 I'm not going to tell you things that I don't believe are true.

03:14:00.140 That's our responsibility.

03:14:02.020 It'd be cool if they were scripture, but they're just not.

03:14:06.800 Do you have anything you'd like to add to that, Svon?

03:14:13.880 But low, Svon is muted.

03:14:15.400 sorry we uh we talked about the blood earlier about the connection of uh the divine through

03:14:22.620 the blood so snorri and all of the all of the folks that were in invested in compiling these

03:14:30.740 stories into poetic verse i believe was holy manipulations and machinations for i think

03:14:41.740 a reason to ensure that there was a seed that would be able to grow again and so and most people

03:14:50.100 most i was sure if you ask them like you do you think that like the adas were kind of like

03:14:54.720 lord odin's way of kind of ensuring that after the long winter the spring would bear fruit and i i

03:15:01.720 100 believe it but that's the difference between like a messiah cult religion and and semitic

03:15:09.900 religions and our, our faith of, and I'm talking about any like Aryan faith of, um, all the way

03:15:17.200 from, uh, India to, to Iceland, um, is that the stories have been passed down to us. Um, I often

03:15:28.980 refer to the, the first storyteller as Kvasir. Kvasir speaks the first stories to humanity,

03:15:36.640 to the folk and speaks about the stories and then they pass on they were poetically written

03:15:43.980 at a very interesting time and they survived in a very interesting way in order for us to continue

03:15:51.600 on and reconnect the the somewhat of a severing from the gods i don't think that they left us

03:15:57.720 while we were um separated if you will like again i spoke about the the manifest destiny spirit or

03:16:04.380 um, Columbina and, um, you know, the gods manifest themselves often. We can't separate

03:16:12.720 ourselves from the gods. The striker will always show up. Um, you know, the, the dynamic Lord will

03:16:19.060 always show up. He is always around and, and influencing. So when we talk about that and,

03:16:28.780 and like what i was here ago they said messiah cult on the you know the title messiah only really

03:16:35.020 exists in non-arian religions like the semitic religions messiah cults are built around mortals

03:16:44.420 and those mortals are saying you know i my hand guided this and then when you point out certain

03:16:50.440 things like that the flood story of the bible is a carbon copy of the sumerians and they're like

03:16:56.140 well the story was told before it was written down um so that that means that they're not

03:17:03.700 you know the the babylonians didn't have the story first because it was it was talked about

03:17:08.360 before it was written down we don't get ourselves caught in that trap we know that the stories

03:17:13.420 have all been passed down over time um it was the poetics of the icelanders that was trying to

03:17:22.180 ultimately be preserved and that's the other thing too is as i was heard ago they said it

03:17:26.900 would be cool to say but then you have to and you'll see people that kind of try to push it

03:17:32.500 they they try to make snorri like a like a messiah or prophet and you'll see them start to do that

03:17:40.980 and i think that historically we know enough to know that you know i don't think he was a

03:17:47.140 a prophet of sorts but does he have germanic blood in him does he have the on does he have

03:17:54.320 the inspiration of lord othen in him yes he does thus making it holy not but not a uh you know

03:18:02.700 again a verbatim lord othen coming to snorty and stating you know you misspelled this you

03:18:10.600 gotta write that just because something's convenient doesn't make it true and truth

03:18:16.100 is really important it's one of our values and it's a it's a very important responsibility when

03:18:22.740 you take on the role of of a gothi is to um communicate with absolute truth when you're

03:18:34.100 speaking about our faith um there's a responsibility there and if we're going to

03:18:41.700 you know i'm half jokingly uh you know reminded svan like no you speak with authority when you say

03:18:49.300 because we do and just as much as that's a uh a proactive like no you are entitled to say

03:18:58.820 this is this and that's that it also means no you're responsible to get that right

03:19:04.660 it's responsible to when you use your your gothy voice you've got to be expressing the truth as

03:19:13.620 you know it and you know all of us are very committed to doing that i will immediately

03:19:20.100 defrock we don't have an appropriate house of true term but i will immediately defrock anybody

03:19:26.580 who i feel is deliberately misrepresenting something as an afa gothy i will not tolerate

03:19:32.500 that and i will not do that myself i swear that to you now and forever um

03:19:45.940 the original question the original black sun one form is called the uh zir shiba

03:19:53.780 and it has a swastika in it any thoughts have you seen the brooch with the zir shiba on it

03:19:59.700 yes absolutely and there's a bunch of them and you know i've seen the one with the swastika i've seen

03:20:06.340 all manner of variety that just basically means decorative circle thingy pretty decorative circle

03:20:13.940 thingy and there's a bunch of different motifs of it and they're you know almost all solar imagery

03:20:25.220 that's obviously that you talk about swastika that's been a holy symbol of arian people since

03:20:33.540 you know ancient ancient times as a matter of fact and they often don't show

03:20:42.180 yeah it's it's unsung a little bit it's a symbol that's on the snaddle of stone rune stone that

03:20:49.620 the afa's tri horn is is modeled from on that stone there's a progression of solar symbols

03:20:57.620 there's a very old and it's you know you don't see it with the red a lot of people when they

03:21:04.260 see the the rune stones and other uh rock art in scandinavia with like red outline

03:21:11.700 that's not original that's a modern thing to help us see the old worn stone engravings

03:21:21.060 but that's not like ancient red stuff that's been in there since since you know neolithic times um

03:21:29.140 so often it's not outlined in the red but you see the trihorns you see the swastika in its

03:21:36.420 very familiar form and you also see a faint but a much bigger um four-spoked sun wheel

03:21:48.900 looks like it's a progression of image carved on this same runestone over a long period of time

03:21:55.700 and that one's much more uh faded and worn away but those are you know all images that are on

03:22:01.860 look at you nick on top of things and if you see um on his top circle if you expand that circle out

03:22:10.420 the swastikas in the lower left quadrant of the bigger four-spoked solar uh solar cross that i

03:22:18.580 was talking about but yeah that's really cool i actually got to visit that stone itself in the

03:22:27.300 copenhagen museum with our founder steve mcnalen and that was a really cool moment the first time

03:22:34.420 and not supposed to so the danish authorities may come after us but it's really cool in europe

03:22:43.460 at least back then and i don't know now you didn't have

03:22:49.140 you know roving mobs of people that like to deface

03:22:53.060 stuff so it wasn't cordoned off or you couldn't whatever we were able to get very very close to

03:22:59.060 it and actually put our uh put our finger on it and touch it and that's really kind of a

03:23:07.780 physical touch with something like that is a real special real special thing that kind of connects

03:23:14.340 you and i very much appreciate that opportunity and just because we're doing show and tell on it

03:23:25.540 i don't know if nick has the photo handy but i do because it was super important to me so i'm

03:23:31.860 sending it to nick and he may can put that up oh may i speak to while he's um about this near shribe

03:23:39.780 or Shaiba. The spokes, I just looked it up. I wanted to make sure because I was

03:23:49.420 going to, the one that I linked in on has nine spokes. The spokes, you know, of the esoteric

03:23:58.780 Svatsana of, you know, Vril and what have you, I've seen ones up to 24 spokes. And then of course,

03:24:09.160 when you look at the green um sun and rod or svart sana in uh in uh wuffelsburg castle um

03:24:19.480 i believe that is 12 spoked but there was a nine spoked one um yeah the significance of spokes and

03:24:26.600 and the usage of it within our um lore the 12 holy gods there are 12 ouse so the the 12 spokes and then

03:24:37.960 the 12 hours of the day it's just the symbol and the number of spokes represent cosmic order um

03:24:45.080 that 12 is that that sacred um number and the only time anything ever switches over to like a

03:24:53.000 triplicate like three it means that it's dynamic it doesn't mean that it's evil or anything like

03:24:58.440 that i was actually talking to some people about that with the idea of like 12 months versus 13

03:25:03.000 months and i think that it was understood by our ancestors that the 13-month year was seen as a

03:25:09.240 dynamic turnover and then it would shift back to the normal back to the the way it should be so you

03:25:17.000 you kind of needed this energy to shift from one state to the other um instead of viewing it as you

03:25:24.600 you know, uh, robbing from the, the, the dynamic, uh, you know, you're, it's the triplicate,

03:25:32.460 the triple horn, the triple triangle, all of these things representative of dynamicism

03:25:39.360 that needs you to move from one point to another, but, uh, yeah, seeking stability, seeking order.

03:25:50.580 There's the picture.

03:25:54.600 yeah it was really cool they there were so many neat things at that museum that were just kind of

03:26:01.980 out there and they weren't you didn't have the same disconnected feeling that you have at some

03:26:09.040 similar kind of places in the United States so it was really nice to

03:26:14.820 you know stumble upon these really amazing things we didn't know what we would encounter

03:26:20.880 um in that museum actually the viking section was

03:26:26.640 like we were trying to get to that and before it we came to all these really cool neolithic

03:26:33.900 things like the trondheim uh sun uh solar chariot that you always see with the the very ancient um

03:26:45.860 solar disc being pulled by the by the horse that we just walked around a corner and that kind of

03:26:50.980 hit us in the face and was amazing we walked through and came face to face with this aurox

03:26:57.860 skull and it was it was just a really cool experience over there but um but yeah and then

03:27:04.580 the last question of the night are you guys ever planning on there we go look at that quick draw

03:27:11.140 on Nick yeah that thing just boom out of nowhere and it was displayed really cool with like LED

03:27:17.200 light on it that was reflecting off it it was awesome and it was completely unexpected I didn't

03:27:22.060 know that's where it was located um are you guys ever planning on traveling to Europe again in the

03:27:28.060 future absolutely but I don't have a firm plan on what that looks like when and where yet but

03:27:33.940 love to um i've been able to travel to europe four times now i would love to do that again twice of

03:27:44.100 those two of those times we're at the astro folk assembly and i would very much like to do that

03:27:49.140 again someday um i don't have any current plans in the uh in the queue for that's fine you got

03:27:55.140 any current european excursions on your list oh i wish i have family in the waypoint in between

03:28:02.900 and i would love to go do like a kind of a baltic sea um roundabout you know uh norway sweden but

03:28:12.580 then check out like latvia and um and just kind of see some of the more inland baltic

03:28:19.220 ideas finland um and go to gotland that island is amazing and i've always wanted to go there

03:28:26.660 yeah well i really want to see zealand too because my ancestors come from zealand and

03:28:31.460 originally, old, old, old, way, way, way back.

03:28:35.620 And I would love to, you know, go and see them, 1.00

03:28:39.080 maybe spit some curses at the Danes. 0.99

03:28:41.660 No, they kicked us out of there.

03:28:47.400 All right, guys.

03:28:48.280 Well, thank you so much for your questions and for being here

03:28:51.880 and for bearing with my technical difficulties

03:28:57.000 and my less than stellar camera this evening.

03:29:00.000 hopefully Nick will help me in the meantime we can get that squared away I will see you guys next

03:29:05.700 week and uh yeah thank you all so much if you can make it out to Montana for Frayers Harvest Feast

03:29:14.740 I would love to see you there I'm excited about heading out there I'm gonna head out Friday morning

03:29:20.700 so it'd be awesome to see you guys there if you can uh if not or even if you are there I will 0.99

03:29:26.880 to you guys again next week same time and uh remember until then hail the icr hell the folk 0.66

03:29:34.720 kill the afa remember victory never sleeps 0.93

03:30:04.720 We'll be right back. 0.99

03:30:34.720 Thank you.

03:31:04.720 Thank you.

03:31:34.720 Thank you.

03:32:04.720 Thank you.

03:32:34.720 We'll be right back.

Asatru Folk Assembly - September 19, 2024

9⧸18⧸24 Victory Never Sleeps, Episode 115 - Alvíssmál

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