Asatru Folk Assembly - 9⧸20⧸23 Victory Never Sleeps, Episode 63 - ᛇᛈᛉ

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00:03:00.000 hello and welcome to another exciting edition of victory never sleeps

00:03:13.360 we got witness fawn back with us tonight to continue our series on the rooms

00:03:20.720 top of the show stuff many of you have already celebrated this last weekend

00:03:26.320 but uh coming up at least in my part of the world on late night friday i believe we have winter

00:03:35.440 finding or the uh autumnal equinox so i wish you all a very happy winter finding if you

00:03:42.400 haven't already celebrated it either way um

00:03:49.440 that is swan's beverage choice this evening is much more exciting than his

00:03:53.680 typical water that's awesome it's been a long week i salute your choice

00:04:01.200 energy going good deal um

00:04:09.920 so very very quick order we have uh frayer's harvest feast going on in montana

00:04:17.120 um that's coming up this weekend and uh should be very exciting that's at one of our members

00:04:25.280 homesteads that he and his his family are are working on and it's going to be really nice the

00:04:31.040 mcnowlands are going to be there if you can make it please reach out to your local folk builder

00:04:36.240 and uh see if we can make that happen because i'm sure it'll be a great event

00:04:40.240 coming up next month at the end of next month we have winter nights at Sigerheim for the very first

00:04:49.580 time this is going to draw in members from all over the south hopefully but also for the people

00:04:58.220 who typically host this up in the northeast we're going to have a lot of northeast people coming

00:05:02.100 down for this as well so it should be a big event I'm going to be down there as is every member of

00:05:09.900 are written so that will be very nice it's a good chance to meet everyone it's a good chance to

00:05:16.220 get get this guy over here to talk to you about whatever spiritual interest you might have or me

00:05:21.180 may even give you a haircut if you show up early yeah that's tradition that is a tradition um

00:05:31.740 yes we got that going up at the end of october i hope to see everybody there if you can uh

00:05:36.140 sigerheim is a magical and amazing place so if you guys can make it there that would be awesome

00:05:40.940 um also i just wanted to say a something really special about the astro folk assembly and um

00:05:54.140 believe that we started our folk services program in 2014 but it's grown a lot since then and it's

00:06:03.900 our way of internally fundraising and helping out members who find themselves in need for whatever

00:06:12.620 reason um we have to work within our means but keeping that in mind as best we can we don't want

00:06:23.420 any of our afa family to have to worry about the essentials of their existence if stuff happens

00:06:31.180 we want to take care of our own if disaster happens if an unexpected illness happens

00:06:38.380 if an unexpected job loss anything existential that's gonna put families you know out of

00:06:48.220 having having food having a home having a certain amount of comfort we

00:06:53.740 we don't want people to be in a in a spot where they have to worry about existential things like

00:06:58.860 that so we try to help as best we can it's something that because we are we are large

00:07:05.900 and we continue to grow you know seems like very often we have somebody somewhere in need

00:07:10.780 and so many of the rest of us have been helping out and i'm really proud of you guys we had a

00:07:19.180 kind of a quick fundraiser hit us a really good friend of many of ours and a member up in

00:07:24.780 massachusetts who is going through some neurological issues and some other things had a had a medication

00:07:32.700 that was a little bit expensive that he needed to get and he needed to get in a pretty short order

00:07:37.900 we put out a fundraiser and within just a few hours we had him all taken care of and uh talked

00:07:44.140 to him today he is very very grateful so i just want to say thank you to everybody who donated

00:07:48.460 and helped make that happen um you guys do us all proud uh i think so that's what i've got for the

00:07:57.020 top of the program um we're we're trying to figure out the best way to do this as far as

00:08:06.700 how to hit all the questions how to hit all the runes and how to break that up and so we're we're

00:08:13.580 continuing to experiment with that on uh what's what's gonna work best so that's that's kind of

00:08:20.300 where we're at um oh and as nick's thrown up there please if you want to participate in super chat or

00:08:30.700 you want to throw any donations our way the way to do that is at either entropy or rumble which

00:08:37.340 which we are currently being broadcast live on.

00:08:43.380 We're also being broadcast live on Odyssey,

00:08:47.900 on VK, on Twitter,

00:08:56.380 and on entropy and rumble as well as here.

00:08:59.920 So please feel free to ask any of your questions there as well.

00:09:03.340 And we'll try to get those all shuffled in

00:09:06.860 And without further ado, Svon, can you talk to us tonight about our first rune of the evening?

00:09:16.660 Again, as if no one's ever heard of it before.

00:09:20.520 Well, a couple of things I wanted to say was one, I wondered about the Twitter X brand switchover.

00:09:28.320 Maybe we'll get a blue bird with like a Malcolm X hat on or something.

00:09:31.680 And that way we could have like, I keep seeing the blue bird.

00:09:36.660 and I'm like, when's it going to happen?

00:09:39.800 No, the Twitter comment, but the other thing, too, is our Equinox beards.

00:09:47.060 I want everyone to know I got a mulligan beard.

00:09:49.480 I'm starting mine early, and you're going to see,

00:09:52.580 I was here to go these beard catch up to mine very, very quickly here soon.

00:09:58.020 So the beards are back.

00:10:00.040 Yeah, I'm going to shave.

00:10:01.300 Tomorrow morning is the last time I'm going to shave for the next six months.

00:10:06.660 Um, at least all the way I'll clean up my neckline. I'll keep it nice and neat.

00:10:11.180 See, I'm working on default. I got that, that head start. It's a little pledgy kid running ahead.

00:10:16.680 No, I just wanted to bring that up. No, um, these, these runes, I've been really excited.

00:10:24.980 Breath of fresh air to finally get here and sit down and talk about this because

00:10:28.440 I get to kind of break away from the week. It's been a long week, been kind of, um, stressful.

00:10:35.580 and the best part about it is these three runes are the start of kind of the internal mysteries

00:10:42.300 whether you're talking about it archaeologically or lore-based there's a lot of interesting things

00:10:48.780 that start to happen on these three runes in relation to all the futharks in relation to

00:10:55.180 some of the great rune masters of of our age and their thoughts about these runes this is where

00:11:02.140 i think we break free from the tried and true and start to get into some speculative stuff

00:11:08.860 um because there's not a even even our ancestors seem to have different courses of points in

00:11:18.300 relation to to uh the runes and it seems to start really right here so um you know i this first

00:11:27.580 room that we're going to be talking about tonight so or well we went last time we were though we

00:11:32.380 ended on yra the the um earth room that uh that rune and this room 12 and 13 are the are the

00:11:41.660 numbers so 13th room these two rooms are oftentimes seen side by side to each other in the uh in the

00:11:49.180 futhark and it's really important uh because they're they symbolically they have a significance

00:11:57.020 when you look at the hero rune and you see the earth shape rune or the the rotational cyclical

00:12:03.020 shape whether it's on the axis or whether it's um you know showing kind of a movement the immediate

00:12:09.100 rune after that in the in our futhark that we use today is a vertical axis rune and that is ewas

00:12:19.980 ewas is spelled a couple of different ways but it's it's a vertical axis rune sometimes it's

00:12:25.020 called the hook rune the wolf hook rune um but that's actually more contextual to things later

00:12:31.340 on in the medieval periods in germany um but it was incorporated into uh german medieval heraldric

00:12:39.420 marks um but this rune is called the u rune now that's interesting all around for a couple of

00:12:46.940 reasons and so right out the gate we start looking at the mysteries of this room when we talk about

00:12:55.020 it being an axis rune and an axis mundi rune a vertical rune most people would know idrisil of

00:13:03.260 the of the nordic folk the axis is a ash tree but this is the u tree and the u tree has its own

00:13:11.020 significance but yet they kind of coalesced with each other it's very similar to like earlier when

00:13:19.020 we were doing ansus and we thought of odin and also all the gods or the divine gods in and of

00:13:26.220 themselves these two kind of have the same relationship the idea of of sacred trees just

00:13:32.620 in general so this rune has a lot of connotations towards the sacred tree and what it might signify

00:13:40.140 whether it's the oak whether it's the yew whether it's the ash uh the yew tree um is a

00:13:49.020 the significance of what we're looking at is what it does in relation to our culture what we know

00:13:54.060 about the yew tree is that one they were held in graveyards as protectors of the dead um our

00:14:02.220 ancestors knew that there was uh strange and mystical powers surrounding the yew tree uh that

00:14:07.260 were later confirmed by science and um or i wouldn't even say confirmed by science but

00:14:12.700 that they they found synchronicity because our ancestors knew they just didn't explain the

00:14:18.620 chemical reasons um the uh the rune itself is culturally connected to the tree and the tree is

00:14:29.660 about death about um the warding off or protecting of an area uh in particular sacred places and the

00:14:39.500 dead um the uh the other usage was that it's a flexible wood so it was made into a bow the

00:14:47.500 bows of the tree were often used to create bows you know and well not arrows arrows were oftentimes

00:14:55.660 made of ash because they're strong the bow tree or the bowie the yew tree itself is flexible it

00:15:03.580 moves it lasts a very long time it's like the it's it's similar to the oak in the fact that it can

00:15:10.540 you know live for a very long time so this the sacredness of the tree is culturally aware but

00:15:17.260 when we get into the meaning of the rune is when things get a little uh again convoluted

00:15:25.660 um whether we're talking about just the bow itself um and that being said they understood

00:15:32.860 that the bow came from the tree um or whether or not we're you know we're talking about the

00:15:38.860 the actual uh ties to death or to darkness but this rune has a a tendency to carry with it a

00:15:48.780 a essence of things coming to an end, or things going into darkness, or things coming to a close.

00:15:58.240 This rune, again, is another movement of shoring up. So when we talk about the story, the grand

00:16:09.480 epoch of the runes that we've been talking about on all of these, after the world and the cosmology

00:16:15.360 is set, this is what I would, I would call the, the caveat rune. This is when

00:16:22.560 our gods pass on to us an understanding of the gravity of the situation. It's the kind of the,

00:16:33.200 the sit down, this is what's going on. So the stories, I believe of the gods came to us at this

00:16:41.080 point in the in the grand tale and it is a true point of measurement the purpose a lot of people

00:16:49.000 wonder what our purpose is and i think that this rune encapsulates this because this room really

00:16:56.200 shows the cyclical nature of yggdrasil of the of the entire cosmos so with um yra as the cycles

00:17:09.160 you know continue everything comes into perspective the cosmology is completely set

00:17:14.520 everything is in play and now we're talking about the nature of the soul that

00:17:22.760 you know folk kind they are living with intent to show honor to be marked to be noticed by the gods

00:17:31.560 bear witness to our deeds and to also bring honor and fame to our people and to our ancestors

00:17:39.160 and this is really the rune that encapsulates our overall system why odin lord odin is choosing

00:17:51.380 souls why he's choosing them and bringing them into the hall of the chosen why the valkyrie are

00:17:58.060 carrying the chosen um and so the soul going up is encapsulated a lot in this room the soul going

00:18:06.160 down as well the soul going away from time and then being exonerated back up even from the veil

00:18:14.240 from the shadow and returning to the top and then from there descending back down into the middle

00:18:20.960 so this is kind of a rune about death in its completion and cycle but i think story-wise

00:18:27.920 it's the the gods and humanity there are souls the folk souls in the entire play of everything

00:18:37.920 the the purpose the overall arcing purpose of it all is that the the doom has been has been meted

00:18:43.920 out we saw that with the hail rune and with the need rune and with the ice rune the norms come

00:18:50.720 they tell the gods this is what your your slaying of emir has started um not that they're at fault

00:18:58.400 but that all things have uh you know a starting point it's all deeds beget more deeds odin says

00:19:06.720 this himself and words beget more words so at that point the gods know and then mankind

00:19:18.400 the folk are made formed generationally cyclically this is where heimdall comes down and teaches the

00:19:25.520 folk all of the secrets of the gods he he's the bridge between the divine he's the prism

00:19:31.680 prismatic light between them and us and he teaches us that way though and through the runes in essence

00:19:39.600 And then after that, knowing and being kind of sat down and focused now begins the epochs of understanding, understanding that there is a doom and a boon before us and that this rune kind of encapsulates that.

00:20:00.360 hey guys sorry about my uh quick departure there i get

00:20:10.520 i get up here and i get in my office to do these and then i hear wailing from my child down uh

00:20:18.120 down below so i had to go check that out not sure what she did she is cry mumbling something about

00:20:25.800 the cat but she has got a massive shiner that came out of nowhere so i think that's going to

00:20:31.800 swell up pretty good on her she seems all right though um i appreciate you carrying the conversation

00:20:39.000 i familiar with the rune but i'm not sure exactly what all spawn just shared with you guys because

00:20:46.520 i was i was tending to other matters during that time um i think this rune has

00:20:56.680 yeah it's silly i think that we all have ones that stands out stand out to us they all have

00:21:02.600 very important esoteric implications to them i think this one we run into the importance of them

00:21:11.720 a lot um so much of this represents

00:21:17.640 travel um both to the upward towards the astral but also travel downward towards the chthonic

00:21:27.240 towards the primal um it has to do with ascension it has to do with

00:21:33.720 descension it has to do with you know traveling between the veil um to the land of the dead to

00:21:42.040 the land of the gods going up and down that vertical axis and i think i think that's very

00:21:48.680 important and what i think is also important both parts of that directionality are

00:22:02.680 celebrated and have their have their place in our spiritual practice there are times when

00:22:10.680 we get quiet and we want to

00:22:19.960 delve into the primal delve into the more basic fundamentals of our folk soul

00:22:28.200 um go back into a place of stasis into a place of communing with the dead

00:22:39.960 um i think some of that is exemplified by you know outsetting and by

00:22:48.800 by various practices of trying to reach out to the underworld. I think that there is a place for

00:22:59.160 that. I think that very often we are focused on traveling upwards and raising our energy upwards

00:23:07.460 and upwards in that tree towards divinity. You know, there's several stops along the way,

00:23:14.280 But I think that idea of ascension is really important as well. So I think that traveling up and down that tree for different purposes has a lot of symbolism and meaning for us in ritual and in personal ritual practice, in group ritual practice, depending upon what we're trying to do.

00:23:35.420 um it's a really good one i think for the time of year that we're beginning to enter in to when the

00:23:43.080 veil is thinning um to being able to communicate between the worlds i think a lot of the

00:23:51.020 the mystery of this rune is exemplified in uh dc or blow that we celebrate at winter nights

00:24:00.200 communing with our with our ancient mothers and I think that's I don't know I think that's neat

00:24:08.940 about this one I think it's it's really special I think the one of the things we air in I believe

00:24:18.020 is when we try to

00:24:19.600 out science you know out science mythos wow what kind of tree was it well indubitably it was

00:24:31.440 you know i don't even know the latin name for what the u is versus what uh you know the birch

00:24:37.920 is or what the ash is or the oak for that matter but i think that when our lore comes to us from

00:24:45.960 different times and when it echoes different times in so for example in one location

00:24:55.480 you may be very good on your on your wilderness lore and on knowing your trees having assigned

00:25:02.520 really important differences between those trees but when you're taking a corpus of lore and oral

00:25:07.880 tradition that spans thousands of miles at numerous different zones i think

00:25:17.160 i think your trees kind of take on different meanings over time and place

00:25:20.920 depending on what's available um and also i think that the the imagery of yggdrasil

00:25:30.360 it's not a tree it's something that is personified as a tree but when we try to science it as some

00:25:42.800 actual tree with actual bark and actual branches that you can go and like do stuff to

00:25:48.280 I think we start missing the purpose of the symbology of the tree

00:25:52.360 One thing that I also like about this rune, and this comes to mind, especially because of winter finding we bloat to Uller, is it being the yew tree, it representing the yew tree, the tree that's in those dales, that's in the graveyard.

00:26:14.640 the idea of that tree that stands in graveyards this is something that comes to mind and I don't

00:26:21.440 believe that they are used but in our graveyard we have at Sigurheim we're

00:26:27.560 a big part of what we have to do there so those of you that may not know we have this ancient

00:26:33.900 graveyard at Sigurheim international members disregard that I said ancient we have a slightly

00:26:40.320 old graveyard but for people in the united states a very old graveyard um and it hasn't been tended

00:26:47.180 in a very very long time so we have uh have dead there from the late 1700s and early 1800s

00:26:57.180 and it doesn't look like it's been paid a lot of attention since about the mid 1800s

00:27:02.340 So it's very overgrown and we're trying to get rid of all the overgrown that's sloppy,

00:27:11.920 but preserve the big trees because there's something special about those trees.

00:27:16.560 But we're having to make some decisions on what trees got to go because they're disrupting

00:27:20.200 the graves and damaging headstones and what trees to stay.

00:27:26.020 It's just interesting to think about trees in graveyards because it's something that's

00:27:29.280 been on our mind internally for a while now um oh go ahead well you brought up a really important

00:27:38.960 point that when we're talking about the deser bloat and this well and this time between winter

00:27:44.800 finding and equinox and winter nights this beginning season of the bifidic season or

00:27:52.640 seasonals that we we uh hold you know this time is uh we're heading up into the hunting moon

00:27:59.840 from the felling moon so like this time is the darkening the colding things are starting to

00:28:05.600 change i know here the the the mornings are staying darker longer and and uh at night they're

00:28:11.520 getting a little cooler um and when we talk about ullr in relation to death that is one thing that

00:28:19.040 i wanted to key in on was this rune is also about the rune of the pursuit the pursuit and the goal

00:28:26.000 and the ultimate um natural law of about life and death in relation to the the deeds and actions

00:28:39.040 and consequence and ultimate uh destiny or doom if you will the word doom is you know is thrown

00:28:46.880 out a lot. And in our language now, it means, you know, dread, but doom basically just meant

00:28:52.300 your measured destination, your, your, um, your overarching, uh, decisions that will lead you

00:29:00.020 into your destiny. Um, so this rune has a personification towards Ullr about death

00:29:06.620 in relation to like conquering and overcoming desired goals, whether it's the predatory prey,

00:29:16.880 kind of um dichotomy or whether it's it is about the pursuit of victory over your enemies or the

00:29:26.600 pursuit of uh the attainment of goals that have long eluded you so uh in an essence the death

00:29:34.300 itself could become one of um of a symbolic nature hey what's going on oh no no no no i got my son

00:29:45.500 here he's uh he's coming down to pilfer a drink you can't just to let everybody know this is not

00:29:53.100 alcohol this is water and he is trying to steal my water you want to drink and then you got to go 0.83

00:30:01.340 back to bed okay this is my son eldred being the little scamp that he is

00:30:11.580 nick do you have the um the room poem uh graphic up or available to put up

00:30:25.180 this is the icelandic one bent bow and brittle iron and giant of the arrow

00:30:34.700 yeah this is interesting too because in the uh translation here arcus is an is a loan word

00:30:41.580 So it says Arcus, again, the archer and coming from Latin.

00:30:46.700 So you could tell when we had talked about these poems, the Anglo-Saxon are more Christianized, but they're actually older linguistically than even the Icelandic, which our faith was still being practiced at the time.

00:31:01.880 But these loanwords were starting to creep in.

00:31:06.040 So like Arcus is the archer and, uh, uh, you know, England is, is, uh, the, the, the person, the archer himself, the, the, the, the body or the man of the one pulling the bow, if you will.

00:31:23.320 Sorry.

00:31:23.960 Just wanted to.

00:31:25.720 Oh, no, that's, that's fascinating.

00:31:28.420 And I think it's, I don't know, that's, that's always welcome.

00:31:31.540 Um, can you throw the next one up for us?

00:31:36.040 you is the greenest of trees in winter uh it is want to crackle when it burns

00:31:50.360 and then go ahead uh that one you know really kind of um placing on the evergreenness of the

00:31:58.440 of the wood and uh you know in reference to anybody that knows you know burning a pine or a

00:32:04.120 um a coniferous uh wood in the fireplace you know it cracks and pops from the from the um

00:32:11.800 uh sap and and things of that i just thought it was very interesting that they

00:32:16.200 you know threw that in there as a uh you know and i think people look for the meanings of it

00:32:21.720 but they also got to remember it is an alerted a literative form of poetry in order to help

00:32:28.840 the uh whether it's the poet or the runester remember the overall arcing sound which is the

00:32:36.040 sound and actually i wanted to get into that after the poem after the poems well and something i

00:32:41.400 wanted to uh i don't know just comment on evergreenness in general it's always had deep

00:32:50.840 symbolic meanings to our people because it it doesn't have seasons in the ways the other

00:32:59.000 trees do it doesn't wax and wane it stays going strong even in winter even in rough times it

00:33:06.120 maintains its green it maintains its luster it's one of the reasons that in ritual most often if

00:33:12.520 we're using um a hlout tyne if we're using any kind of a spurging um tool it's an evergreen

00:33:20.840 an evergreen sprig because it has that that symbology of maintaining through the hard times

00:33:28.600 of of being indomitable and then the anglo-saxon the ewe is a tree with rough bark hard and fast

00:33:39.720 in the earth supported by its roots a guardian of flame and a joy upon an estate

00:33:51.480 a lot of speculation about that uh the guardian of the flame um obviously with the usage of it

00:33:57.720 in england for grave sites and and the dead but uh you know the usage of it in relation to torches

00:34:04.760 or perhaps even shielding of the flames um you know that's a lot of speculation on that that

00:34:12.760 part of the translation um i think supported by its roots has a bit of of symbology with what we

00:34:23.400 talked about about traveling up and down especially in graveyards the idea of returning to to the

00:34:29.320 roots of summoning the the dead the ancient the the ur into into us and what we do rotate um

00:34:39.560 calling up that ancient knowledge is really important um it's fun you wanted to go into

00:34:46.920 some of the linguistics of it yeah uh it's worth noting so if anybody is out there placing the

00:34:55.720 futharks next to each other when we talk about the younger futhark and the elder futhark this

00:35:01.720 is where things start to get a little dicey and the major reason is is that the younger futhark

00:35:06.760 has this rune but the symbol is different it is a vertical axis with uh three points down

00:35:14.920 so oftentimes called the death rune um and it is at the end of the futhark for the younger i'm

00:35:22.760 i'm talking about the the norwegian the swedish the icelandic and the another thing worth noting

00:35:28.520 is that the the letter r and the sound can be its own syllable in a word so you know oftentimes uh

00:35:37.080 when we talk about like the gothic language or even um some of the uh you know ancient german

00:35:44.360 the the usage of the z or the s at the end was in common place but by this time nordic language

00:35:51.560 started using an a trilled r so this rune in the younger futhark is not the e sound but the it

00:36:00.680 you'll see generally it's a dash with a capital r and it's worth noting that um when we talk about

00:36:08.120 the linguistics of of that that i wanted to place that out first because some people might be looking

00:36:13.320 at it going well where is the rune and then when you look at the last rune in the younger it's not

00:36:17.960 the ei it's a it's an r and so it causes a lot of confusion um the biggest point i would say is

00:36:26.520 first and foremost uh edward thorson's book uh futhark he speaks of how the the usage of the

00:36:35.080 elder futhark sound ei is not really known it's speculated and to be fair that is completely

00:36:43.320 honest that's actually i think a great trait that he showed there was that there wasn't a hundred

00:36:49.640 percent of an understanding we do know that the ei in gothic is a double e sound so the the the

00:36:59.400 spelling between the modern reconstructed ewaz and the ewaz word in gothic is only by one letter

00:37:08.600 and we know that their ei was a double e sound now for most of us here in the west west um and

00:37:15.240 especially since we're derived from germanic the ei has more of a a long i sound like heim

00:37:23.480 or uh you know stein or things like that and that's because that actually became

00:37:29.160 prevalent in german much much later i believe like the 14th or 15th century the ei became a long

00:37:36.040 i sound uh officially and so a lot of people when they see this rune they say i was but it's worth

00:37:45.000 noting whether you spell it with an e-i or just an eye it's still a double e sound and we're we

00:37:51.800 only have a testament to that because of the gothic word and also the anglo-saxon word which

00:37:59.560 is eo e o h and it it's or excuse me it might be ea no it is eoh is uh is a long e sound so a lot

00:38:11.800 of people didn't quite know where to go with that and i think that's part of the confusion is really

00:38:17.720 that that ei switch but the the correct i would say the correct linguistic and i'm going to go

00:38:24.200 out on a limb and just kind of from my authority of like this and studying the runes for a very

00:38:29.400 long time and you know studying uh the like gothic usage of the word it is a double e sound an e

00:38:36.760 so that would also bring to point that there are technically three e sounds in the runic

00:38:42.760 futhark which is kind of interesting um uh the the two vowel sounds in the middle

00:38:51.480 etter in the the uh the middle eight are two e sounds the east rune which is like a short uh

00:38:59.000 i like an in and sit and bit and then there's the long e sound in this room ewas and um

00:39:07.480 you can kind of see its usage um in like the beginning of words like in old norse the um

00:39:16.920 the word iron is iron and it's a double e sound oftentimes written as a y or a j now

00:39:25.240 uh and a lot of people will say like jarn or yarn but it's it's a double e it's the same with

00:39:31.480 eormann gander jormann gander is a double e sound in the beginning so this is where

00:39:37.720 that's why i said these runes are super interesting because linguistically things

00:39:41.000 start happening here and it gets even more confusing when you look at the younger and

00:39:47.720 it's not the e sound at all it's the r sound and it starts to fill a role that another rune in the

00:39:55.400 elder futhark does when we're talking about like uh gothic or or germanic it's an ending rune

00:40:03.320 much like the uh the algies or elha's room which we'll be covering later uh is a z sound at the

00:40:11.400 end of words this rune too becomes the end in younger futhark so it's it's worth noting and

00:40:19.400 so in the younger futhark if you're looking at it um it's it's also a double e sound but it has an

00:40:26.120 r so it's ear and that means you tree and they just focus on the r because the of the i guess

00:40:34.440 the other r in the beginning of the food art sorry that's where things are getting

00:40:41.720 all kinds of different directions now

00:40:49.160 all right so with that we'll take a break and answer some questions here our first question

00:40:55.640 is a carryover from last week but i guess after i called time we got uh we got an extra question

00:41:03.320 almost made it was ancient egypt actually arian it's an interesting subject

00:41:11.960 but i never looked into it what sources should i look into

00:41:18.280 so a couple of things to remember off the bat

00:41:21.480 that Egypt is we speak of ancient Egypt as one monolithic thing like there was a time that's

00:41:35.220 ancient Egypt as if you know in American history you can look to the Old West and it was a period

00:41:41.640 of like 40 years you know 40 50 whatever there's there's a small window of what the Old West was

00:41:51.480 Actually, you could draw it out to like 60 or 70 years.

00:41:56.580 But again, when you deal with ancient Egypt, we're dealing with thousands of years of time.

00:42:05.520 When the Greeks or the Romans interacted with ancient Egypt, Egypt was deeply ancient to them.

00:42:15.160 um the distance between the most ancient part of ancient egypt and the roman empire is closer than

00:42:23.180 us in the room or is uh further away than us in the roman empire so we're dealing with a

00:42:28.860 vast epoch of time in that area one part of ancient egypt had a lot of arian overlay and that's

00:42:39.680 you could argue that there was some um arian admixture going on there with a lot of things

00:42:48.480 before this but certainly in the ptolemaic times after alexander the great had conquered egypt

00:42:56.880 there was a syncretism that occurred between alexander and the greeks that was fashionable

00:43:04.400 they would go to egypt and they would look for similarities between their gods and the egyptian

00:43:09.280 gods and give them a dual a dual personality as an egyptian and a greek deity um you saw that uh with

00:43:26.800 zeus zeus and uh and ra would be i forget the hyphenated um order it went in but they would

00:43:35.120 go to um alexander i admit remember one time when he was in egypt went to a very far away shrine

00:43:41.280 that was very important to consult with uh the oracle there and the idea was that amon ra to

00:43:49.200 the egyptians was zeus to the greeks who fathered alexander in in legend and so his mother told him

00:43:58.400 So it was a it was an interesting there was a lot of that. And that continued, you know, full force after Alexander conquered Egypt and into the line of Ptolemaic kings and the Ptolemaic dynasty, which Cleopatra, the white Grecian Cleopatra was part of.

00:44:17.140 Right. Before that. No, not really. I don't think so. I think that we can if we look hard enough, we can find similarities between lots of things.

00:44:35.060 There was a comment over in the side that it was more Aryan than it was sub-Saharan African.

00:44:40.680 And I think that if those are the two choices, then yes, I agree, but I don't, I think there's

00:44:46.960 more to it than those two choices.

00:44:48.680 And I think there's certainly the, the Semitic peoples populated that area long before Aryan

00:44:56.020 tribes populated it.

00:44:58.760 It is certainly something fascinating to think on.

00:45:02.140 and when you go into the deep mists of time you can possibilities abound of the traveling of

00:45:12.580 different groups of people in the the epochs before written history and so it's it's really

00:45:20.260 easy to speculate and it's fun to speculate on that especially with big high civilizations of

00:45:26.600 ancient times but i don't i don't see that as a truth uh what what's a useful one yeah i i think

00:45:37.680 of one i don't think we should get trapped into the easily like there are groups of people out

00:45:44.340 here just they just it's the continent africa so therefore we're connected to it and they they try

00:45:50.340 to own it completely without considering all of the factors. I mean, they're clearly Eastern

00:45:58.480 African, you know, the Nubians that kind of, they were first the enemies of Egypt and then

00:46:07.780 eventually they were conquered by Egypt and then they kind of gained ground back. And then I think

00:46:12.700 that applies the same with like the Minoans and their influence from the seafaring people or

00:46:19.440 the Phoenicians, and so many people are kind of intertwined in this really long arcing story of

00:46:28.060 the empires, the rise and fall of Egypt, numerous times over and over and over again.

00:46:35.440 Their origins, that's, I, you know, I'm fascinated by the idea of the origins of

00:46:42.520 ancient ancient ancient egypt but to say that they are arian i don't think so mainly because

00:46:51.220 when we're talking about those times we know genetically our our folk were more central and

00:46:57.080 northern in the uh the uh the caucus you know northern siberian mountains

00:47:04.540 you gotta go to bed

00:47:07.180 no go to bed

00:47:10.120 my son is terrorizing me

00:47:13.360 he knows I'm in a

00:47:15.260 compromised state and he's like I want

00:47:17.200 water

00:47:17.640 so yeah I would speculate

00:47:23.380 that for us

00:47:25.560 to say completely no

00:47:27.540 but have a lot of people

00:47:29.120 placed stock

00:47:31.500 into the

00:47:32.260 the dynasties of egypt 100 and i mean it depends on what part you look at egypt and its history

00:47:40.660 when they mark down the different people of africa and they show you know light-skinned people dark

00:47:45.980 skinned people there's people from the south people from the west people from across the ocean

00:47:50.080 there's a lot of interesting things um there is a gentleman i i was following on x who

00:47:57.260 So it eludes me right now, and I wish I could point this out, but I would say that it's most likely during the biblical times of early Judaism, Egypt, and I would say the migrations of maybe the Hittites and the Louians, the Aryan folk coming down.

00:48:18.440 But there is a story of a scribe of Egypt who he gets fearful that he might be accused of an assassination attempt on the pharaoh.

00:48:33.080 So he runs, he leaves, and he goes past the, what would be like, you know, Palestine, the Palestinian area.

00:48:41.360 He goes north of that and he ends up joining a war band and like riding chariots and horses.

00:48:48.180 And he mentions eating all manner of cow and the various breeds and milk and cream.

00:48:55.140 And he ends up becoming a warrior.

00:48:58.000 So he went from like this kind of lily scholar in Egypt to becoming a thane in a war band.

00:49:04.700 And it is a great story.

00:49:06.380 I just cannot recall it right now, the name.

00:49:09.380 but it's worth noting that if you look at that snapshot Egypt was extremely old then and these

00:49:17.360 people in the North had just migrated in there and they were still riding chariots so you know

00:49:26.480 that's the thing the further you go into Egypt is in a very interesting location um the people who

00:49:34.040 there has been a movement in modern times to

00:49:41.880 claim all of Africa equals black folks and that just wasn't the case in ancient times

00:49:53.000 it's not the case in modern times the Sahara Desert is just as big a point of separation

00:50:00.260 between peoples as oceans are. So there's a lot of dissimilarity. The people south of the

00:50:09.740 Sahara Desert are very different than the people north of the Sahara Desert. Also, Egypt finds

00:50:14.840 itself, you know, anything in that Mediterranean area has a lot of trade and a lot of intermixture

00:50:23.200 are culturally, racially, and other things with variety groups of people. Is there an

00:50:29.700 Aryan influence at different points in Egyptian history? Certainly. Does that affect their

00:50:35.600 mythology and their depiction of their divinity and such? Probably in some way, especially

00:50:43.540 depending on when you take that depiction from. And, you know, I think, I think that there's

00:50:52.040 also the tendency from the other side of the coin for white folks to see everybody that did

00:50:59.080 anything cool and trace it back to a white guy at some point and um sometimes i think

00:51:05.880 there's justification for that other times i don't think so hey sweetheart how's your eye um

00:51:14.440 so yeah that's a complex question and one of the things that makes it so interesting

00:51:19.160 because i don't think the answers are very clean and it goes back to such an ancient period of

00:51:25.000 time that i think it leaves itself open for a lot of imaginative speculations no thank you i'm good

00:51:34.520 i don't need the the fake thermometer i'm all right um you and i both right now saudi i wouldn't trade

00:51:43.080 it for anything no um our next uh next up is our uh weekly question that i appreciate good evening

00:51:51.560 y'all how are you gentlemen how are you gentlemen's evenings going going good now that i can calm down

00:51:57.480 a little bit i had a little bit of a scare when aubrey was screaming in agony she's okay now and

00:52:04.200 trying to i guess ironically minister to me with her her fake doctor gear um so she's doing all

00:52:13.400 right i'm doing all right i look forward to these all week i'm especially excited um

00:52:20.520 nick has been cutting these up into smaller chunks for shorts and clips

00:52:26.280 and things like that so the youtube channel's gotten a huge boost the past couple of days

00:52:32.520 um i don't know i feel feel good about doing these i look forward to doing them every week

00:52:38.280 i'm having a elysian the great pumpkin imperial pumpkin ale and talking to one of my best friends

00:52:44.440 so i am doing all right how are you doing swan i'm doing good now uh yeah it's been a rough

00:52:50.600 rough week just uh you know automotive stuff uh dealing with you know fixing things and having

00:52:57.640 other parts break down or um inspections and so on and so forth i mean not everything's always

00:53:04.200 you know peachy keen and i i think it's worth being honest about that i'm kind of uh you know

00:53:09.480 there's a lot of how you how a lot of people say you know when it rains it pours so like

00:53:14.920 it's just kind of all hit at once early in the week and i've been uh scrambling to make

00:53:21.160 to make the uh the difference but um things are starting to level out now um the problems that

00:53:27.880 i couldn't fix on my own you know automotively i've got a mechanic that aided me i only know

00:53:33.800 but so much and um but i gave it the shot and it didn't quite work and um all of that so now

00:53:41.160 we're here we are we're in mitvalk we're in the middle of the week and i finally get to sit down

00:53:46.040 and so i was i was really looking forward to this at work uh i'm you know getting very very busy at

00:53:52.360 work so it was a chance i was like rushing out of work to get here and was like man i can't i can't

00:53:58.920 wait to just sit down and talk about the runes and just you know like catch up and and get a chance

00:54:06.680 to talk with you and it's finally kind of like slowing down and it's it's hitting me that all

00:54:12.040 right i think we're we're in the clear a little bit knock on wood

00:54:22.760 all right

00:54:28.120 next question okay so the next question when will we colonize the stars

00:54:35.800 um

00:54:42.040 So it's easy to give like a flip answer and just come up with a date, but in all seriousness, there are, okay, when certain prerequisites are met,

00:55:06.800 one of those just scientifically is figuring out how to cross that big of a distance

00:55:14.460 in any kind of reasonable time frame. There's ideas of, you know, different science fiction,

00:55:22.520 kind of faster than light travel, but there's also the idea of, you know,

00:55:30.020 it being a generational process aboard some kind of vessel to do that um I think all of those

00:55:40.120 things are really fascinating ideas and I don't know which will get implemented first and I think

00:55:45.780 that uh things one of the other

00:55:54.260 preconditions i think is that our people white people aryan people need to

00:56:03.700 become self-interested again and to prioritize achievement over

00:56:12.100 inclusivity and making everybody feel good i think if the the focus is put on accomplishment instead

00:56:22.740 of letting lower functioning people feel special too i think that's when we're going to get back

00:56:32.100 on that we saw you know we saw the acceleration from the wright brothers to

00:56:42.980 verner von braun in you know within a person's lifetime within a relatively young person's

00:56:49.780 lifetime um we can do amazing amazing things when we focus on accomplishment instead of

00:57:00.660 feeling the need to handicap ourselves and our accomplishment in order to

00:57:04.820 be politically correct to make everybody feel good and snuggly um and i think when we get to that

00:57:13.060 point we will accelerate towards that goal relatively quickly i'm not a scientist i

00:57:18.580 couldn't tell you how long that's going to take but we have to start focusing on winning again

00:57:24.340 before we're going to get there what are your thoughts on that's fun i definitely think this

00:57:30.260 this uh question even though it doesn't seem right away does fit the rune the rune of again

00:57:35.060 the emphasis of upward movement or you know axis movement or attainment of goals um and when we

00:57:42.660 talk about our nation and the attainment of space or the attainment of the stars is a thing i think

00:57:51.460 that a lot of americans still talk about still think about um in relation to you know the past

00:57:59.940 and and ventures of of the future whether it's mars and you know uh all of this stuff and so

00:58:06.660 it's truly interesting i think that um one of the the glimmers of hope that i see

00:58:13.940 in america is the ability for us to talk about that still um that wildness and desire to to to

00:58:22.820 go there and you know i don't i don't know i don't know when that would be i think that

00:58:28.980 the um the gods are certainly within us and they're within the world and they're out there

00:58:36.260 even beyond um that you know there is the macro and the micro if you will on a lot of things um

00:58:42.900 um so the desire for us to kind of broach the the edges of everything to to search the realms around

00:58:53.460 us to the farthest ends of it um is within our our soul but yeah there's a lot of things you know

00:59:02.260 that i couldn't say i mean now you're looking at privatization and the commercialization of things

00:59:08.580 and there's all that kind of intricate minutiae and i don't know if that's good or bad when i

00:59:14.980 look at it i'm still kind of in the observation phase of of it all uh i you know i'm i'm just

00:59:21.540 i'm blown away by the fact that just recently you know the idea of having a rocket to land on its

00:59:27.700 feet or on its its uh tail end has was like a crazy achievement that um you know because we're

00:59:36.740 not unified anymore as a people we're kind of all these this uh mishmash of people living in a

00:59:42.820 in the in hotel america um the uh i wish that we were all unified and more more excited about that

00:59:51.060 that was an amazing thing um but at the same time too i guess you could say there's a lot of people

00:59:56.820 involved in that and i'm not gonna you know like break out the like it's caliper time no it's not

01:00:03.300 like that at all i mean there's a lot of different people involved and i think now we're starting to

01:00:07.620 get the um getting people from like other parts of the world are coming here to kind of contribute

01:00:15.300 into their ideas about things but what ends up happening is you have this this diverse group of

01:00:21.940 things but now nothing is getting done there's just little kind of blips forward with no true

01:00:28.820 destiny forward and that is again kind of looping back to what you said i was here ago is that there

01:00:34.180 needs to be a kind of set destiny a unification that brings everybody together and it's not like

01:00:42.100 dried out alien carcasses that's gonna bring us all together to like take to the stars and

01:00:48.900 uh it's just people i think have lost a lot of hope and that's another sign of that

01:00:52.740 kind of soul sickness it really is it really is and i think that and we'll get we'll get on the

01:01:00.500 next question here in a second but what i think is also and so i saw over in the chat that this

01:01:05.780 was originally a troll question that we're giving a big answer to but here's the thing there's

01:01:13.460 layers to this yes we want to answer the question for the person who asked it

01:01:19.380 but i also want to address the question for everyone else that listens to it down the road

01:01:24.420 because i think that's valuable and especially because interstellar colonization has been a

01:01:33.460 theme and a fascination of our founder steve mcnalen since since his childhood i think it's

01:01:40.580 it's worth i don't know worth addressing a little bit and one of the things i've seen other you know

01:01:47.300 other things over to the side too and i know that we're not going to focus on this but i think that

01:01:55.060 one thing that also holds us back is us focusing on thinking that

01:02:01.780 other people than us are responsible for holding us back all the time

01:02:06.260 i'm not doubting that there are such instances but what i think we've all seen very obviously

01:02:13.620 with our own eyes every single day our own people are the ones that hold us back constantly

01:02:21.140 if all of our people were united in moving us forward there's nothing that other groups of

01:02:27.460 people could do to hold us back we are responsible for our own shortcomings as a people and

01:02:36.900 And that's tragic, but it's also empowering because it means we have the potential to overcome all those shortcomings if we were to unite and act with self-interest in one voice.

01:02:53.660 So the next question up is, what sparked the interest in making V&S clips?

01:02:59.280 our folk builder in poland um a gentleman named asper he uh mentioned this on saturday while

01:03:10.000 and my wife read it to me from a chat room while we were driving up to odenshof for our winter

01:03:15.520 night or winter finding celebration and i said you know something like hey hey nick can we do that

01:03:25.120 and producer nick has jumped on there and i don't know how many he's cranked out in the past couple

01:03:30.560 of days but he has thrown himself into the process and it's been a huge success our views on youtube

01:03:39.280 are way way up i want to get those to all the places they should be so that more of our people

01:03:44.480 who would be interested can see it um big shout out to nick too just uh for yeah that seven hour

01:03:52.480 marathon we did nick's there too he's just not seen so you know this is amazing this has

01:04:00.720 really boosted things and made it amazing

01:04:04.880 nick is trying to practice some historical revisionism and suggest that he and one of

01:04:09.760 our other folk builders were planning on doing it anyway beforehand but uh i think that's fanciful

01:04:18.000 no we'll see i don't know i think great minds think alike on a lot of those things

01:04:21.280 either way we've got he says he's got the messages either way we've got a really good

01:04:28.180 tech team and we've got folks that are making so much of this happen um we've got really great

01:04:35.540 people in so many different areas of doing this trying to fulfill the will of the gods to bring

01:04:44.820 our folk together and bring all of our folk home while advancing the development of also true

01:04:52.740 is such a big and such a broad mission statement that especially in this day and age it takes such

01:04:59.380 a variety of skill sets and we've got some really great people a whole lot of skills that i don't

01:05:05.140 have the first clue about able to make a lot of that happen and we're very very grateful for it

01:05:10.020 um how much more do we need for michael's headstone well since we had a generous donor

01:05:17.860 who was always such a generous donor to us in this very conversation tonight

01:05:22.920 um ronald thank you very much we really appreciate your contributions so very regularly to what

01:05:33.060 we're doing. Oh, wow. It looks like it's even advanced since Nick sent me an update message

01:05:42.760 a little bit ago. Looks like we need $249 out of the $349. When we started this show,

01:05:51.400 we needed $329. So you guys have been great. Thank you for doing that.

01:06:03.060 We mentioned Michael Vaughn that passed away. We mentioned him when he passed away on this program. But last weekend, we interred his remains at Njordshoff. That's the first remains that have been interred at Njordshoff.

01:06:21.500 I was going to say first of many, I don't certainly want all of our people to be immortal if they can, but assuming that they can't, it is an honor to be able to have them with us in that sense eternally at our, at our Hoffs.

01:06:37.960 So I believe Goethe Trent East performed the internment service there.

01:06:45.940 And, yeah, we're trying to take a little collection to get them a nice grave marker.

01:06:50.820 And we appreciate you guys' help tonight doing that.

01:06:57.160 Next question.

01:06:59.540 I think this is the next question, and then we will move on to our next room.

01:07:03.300 But this question, those of us in the Southern Hemisphere, should we be celebrating according to our seasons or aligned with those in the north to be in tune with our folk?

01:07:15.920 That is a fascinating question that a lot of our people have asked over the years.

01:07:23.140 Svon, what are your thoughts on that?

01:07:25.340 I thought about this a lot.

01:07:26.640 The biggest thing, again, is the correlation between the earth, the moon, and the sun, and the bringing yourself into alignment.

01:07:42.680 so it kind of goes in two directions unifying with your folk and understanding and commemorating

01:07:53.380 your origins and understanding where your people come from and the correlation with that i can

01:07:58.880 understand that argument completely but at the same time the ultimate point is alignment

01:08:03.640 and bringing yourself into an alignment with things so do you deny what is around you

01:08:10.320 in commemoration of where you come from or some people that have made this argument

01:08:15.200 i i see it but at the same time you also want to correlate with the land around you with with

01:08:23.180 you know you want to understand how to utilize it the best you know sunlight daylight warmth

01:08:29.680 cold all of these things are very important that we understand them so that we can better

01:08:34.300 utilize them. You don't want to take venture on during a time when it's dangerous, but you want

01:08:44.480 to utilize it. That's very important is synchronizing yourself with the overall flow.

01:08:50.540 So I don't know. I don't have the experience of celebrating Yule

01:09:03.920 in the in the middle of what would be you know the tidying of summer uh in essence um

01:09:15.040 i understand both arguments and i don't have the experience to say which one i personally would

01:09:21.200 feel inclined to press on is what i'm getting at i guess i'm not trying to be vague on purpose it's

01:09:28.560 just sitting from where i'm at right now is i can understand both points if you will so here's

01:09:39.120 a theme that we've repeated on here many times

01:09:46.480 religion specifically also true is not a science or a math equation

01:09:53.920 it is about relationships and it's about intent and it's about interaction with the gods and is

01:10:06.760 what we're doing making them proud of us or making them ashamed of us or making them completely

01:10:14.260 indifferent um there's no wrong answer to this question and i think that it's weird and uh

01:10:23.860 interesting that it comes up when we're talking about space colonization you know

01:10:30.420 if you colonize alpha centauri when do you celebrate yule um

01:10:36.740 um I would say and I've always kind of thought thought this well it depends on what you're

01:10:47.720 trying to do if all of a sudden all the members of the AFA moved south of the equator and we're

01:10:56.480 all in Australia or New Zealand or South Africa or something like that then we should probably

01:11:02.960 all flip at 180 but right now when the vast majority of our folk are celebrating one way

01:11:11.200 if you want to feel included in that and part of that at the same time and synchronize that

01:11:16.160 i don't think that's wrong i don't think our gods somehow bifurcate and some of them are

01:11:23.040 southern hemisphere and some of them are northern hemisphere i don't think it works that way

01:11:26.880 I think if you're in, you know, Auckland and, you know, I'm over here in Reno and it's, it's Yule and we're both raising a horn at Yule time, I don't think that the gods are wagging a figure at you saying, nah, it's midsummer down there, it doesn't count.

01:11:46.080 uh that's it doesn't send the smell test if we're treating our gods as sentient beings

01:11:54.240 if it's a you know if it's a science equation that at a certain time of the year you have to

01:11:59.760 do a certain rain dance or else you know bad juju is going to happen then that's a different story

01:12:05.880 but we believe in the gods of consciousness so i think that your intent is what really matters a

01:12:11.940 lot. Now, what I know that the majority of people that I've spoken to who practice Al-Satrut in the

01:12:17.380 Southern Hemisphere do is they flip at 180. In the height of summer, they celebrate midsummer,

01:12:24.340 and in the middle of winter, they celebrate Yule. One thing is Yule kind of can get hit twice

01:12:31.260 because of its evolution or bastardization, perhaps a better term, into the Christian

01:12:39.760 celebration of christmas it's such a cultural touchstone that people are aware of what time

01:12:46.960 that is they're putting out all the symbolism it's based all of the cool parts of it are based on our

01:12:55.920 our faith and put you know paint it over with the jesus coat of paint

01:13:01.120 that it's really easy to try to celebrate yule when the christians celebrate christmas it just

01:13:06.160 works really well socially it works for a lot of reasons so there's reasons for anyone to do it um

01:13:14.080 like to do any of those two things it's your reasoning i would say that matters and it's

01:13:19.200 who you're trying to synchronize with like i said i really hope that we can develop thriving afa

01:13:25.840 communities in australia in new zealand in south africa in all of these places and then they can

01:13:34.080 you know flip their calendars and so much of ours we have intermediary holidays that don't

01:13:43.600 necessarily have a specific time or place we have others that are very specifically linked to natural

01:13:51.200 phenomenon celebrating those when that phenomenon occurs like celebrating ostara when it is

01:13:57.760 springtime makes a lot of sense but i don't think the dawn goddess is angry at you if you were to

01:14:05.200 celebrate her in the fall because you're trying to you know unite with your folk across the world

01:14:11.280 from you i think the fact that we're able to have this conversation is you know this is this is the

01:14:17.120 problems of success and uh not uh not something to be grumpy about i think the fact that we have

01:14:24.320 our people that have colonized and been successful on the opposite side of the world

01:14:30.960 is something that would amaze our ancestors and be celebrated so i think it depends on what you

01:14:36.640 want to do and i think you have you are in a unique spot being in southern hemisphere that

01:14:41.520 you can kind of choose which way you want to go and have some options there i it's uh it's funny

01:14:48.240 because a lot of people i've been you know they'll ask uh is there an official is there a set thing

01:14:53.920 that the afa does is there uh you know a diagram or is there a checklist and in truth no in a lot

01:15:02.640 of the sense our our flexibility comes from having to deal with you know conditions that are uh unique

01:15:10.080 to each member and each member could be you know it's all over the world so that's like a good

01:15:15.360 problem to have and i think that when we we get put on the kind of the spot or do you have this

01:15:22.240 this there's a lot of reasons that they might not even be thinking about is is you know our calendar

01:15:28.320 is able to be utilized whether you're southern hemisphere or northern hemisphere but a lot of

01:15:34.080 times it's on the the kindred or the the individual i think it's worth noting too just remembering

01:15:40.160 this is that no matter what mid-summer and mid-winter are highly important in our understanding

01:15:48.240 of time because both are a celebration and a lament you know we we uh in in the northern

01:15:56.160 hemisphere and during yule um you know we sell we lament the death of balder but also the rise of

01:16:03.520 the sun during yule and then at midsummer we celebrate the rise of balder and the lament of

01:16:11.600 the loss of the of the son from from that point on so it's really important to understand those

01:16:19.600 those two are almost completely connected

01:16:26.800 in my son you're still not in bed well when it will be when i could get my calendar that's full

01:16:36.320 of toys and chocolate so uh one of the things that he's talking about is um the uh yule celebration

01:16:45.040 and yule calendar uh we kind of use the the advent calendar if you will but we count down

01:16:51.600 to mother's night so um right after um feast of the iron her yar or and even or thanksgiving is

01:17:01.040 uh for the secular holiday that we celebrate the advent calendar comes out and it tracks

01:17:05.680 all the way to the 20th to the night of the 20th and then thus begins yule so he's another way to

01:17:12.800 to reckon when to celebrate yule is when you can get the calendars with the chocolate in them

01:17:18.080 right and my children's the countdown of that is entirely based around yule so they're

01:17:25.040 that when the advent calendar comes out is i believe this one day after thanksgiving it might

01:17:30.240 be the second day after thanksgiving but it just kind of correlates for them and it helps

01:17:35.120 our our christian family to get they can give an advent calendar generally of course we don't have

01:17:42.560 ones with you know camels and and you know head scarves and such that a lot of them have

01:17:48.960 would be a christian iconography but um you know they get these advent calendars and so they're

01:17:54.720 super excited and for my three-year-old that's just the the bee's knees so that countdown to

01:18:00.880 yule is very important i don't blame him it's all about priorities right

01:18:08.240 so that being said i think another really interesting room is up next it's fun yeah

01:18:15.040 well i also i did see some questions about uh iwas i don't know there are there are there

01:18:21.280 are a number of them but i'm kind of going at the hour being my marker so yeah we will definitely

01:18:27.760 get to those. We'll overlap our room questions. We'll keep going. But I'd like us to tell the

01:18:34.560 folks about Pear Throat. Again, the mysteries stack on. So Iwaz and the ultimate sitting down,

01:18:51.820 the recalibration, the vertical. Iwaz is, I mean, excuse me, Iwaz then gives way to Perthro.

01:19:00.740 Perthro, again, is a very interesting rune. And these two runes in particular are very interesting

01:19:06.580 when we start talking about the archaeological evidence of the Elder Futhark. And we'll get

01:19:12.740 into that in a minute. But first and foremost, this rune is the rune of mystery. It is the rune

01:19:19.280 of that which is shrouded um oftentimes it's called the dice cup um or the uh the the uh

01:19:28.400 the pot or the the purse it is the rune of of uh containment that is releasing

01:19:35.440 unknown um it has connotations connected to of course wells and of the

01:19:41.680 the the the fate of the divine and mankind after being the sitting down this is kind of a rune

01:19:50.760 about both chance and will and their interplay together or destiny and will i i really uh focus

01:20:00.460 on that in this room this room to me has always been about the age old argument or or pondering

01:20:08.140 of destiny versus um willful action and uh do we have control or what is intertwined and this

01:20:16.860 this rune it it kind of shows that the procession of all things that are happening now are happening

01:20:25.500 past this room so when we talk about the epoch of the runes that we've been talking about

01:20:31.820 since the beginning of this and we talk about the alignment there's the circular nature of the

01:20:36.780 cosmos yggdrasil is in full swing everything is rotating and then we move to the upper and the

01:20:43.580 lower the the uh again the second alignment and this time um the folk are involved once we get

01:20:52.060 into that alignment in iwas what lays before us is unknown the the decisions that we make and the

01:21:02.620 the deeds that we now have to partake in, our unification with the gods, our relationship with

01:21:09.480 the gods. And I mean that from all the way back. Our relationship with the gods has been up and

01:21:15.760 down. It has, we have been separated from them. We have been, you know, even to the point of like

01:21:24.660 the speculations of whether or not they're like people, our folk have looked at the gods and

01:21:29.360 thought of them as archetypes or philosophical points or, or, you know, with, uh, they've been

01:21:33.760 made into demons by Christianity. And so, so much and so forth there, our relationship with the gods

01:21:39.580 has been quite rocky. Um, but the gods are eternal and they have waited. They, I think this rune

01:21:45.260 really talks about, um, destiny and fate and their timelessness and the ability for us to press

01:21:55.400 forward um into the the scald if you will or the the the that which will be based off of

01:22:03.480 our unification now is the um now that all things have come into alignment what happens now will be

01:22:12.680 unified there's no more up and down there's no more circular um now it is all flowing together

01:22:20.920 and this room when you're talking about in divination or um there's uh this room has a

01:22:28.200 a lot to lend towards the fact that things are not clear yet things have not solidified yet

01:22:34.600 and a lot of people say what is that is that like a blank rune like uh ralph bloom's blank room blank

01:22:41.480 rune um in a way it is and i'll i'll say it because what what is being said is that the

01:22:52.840 entirety of everyone's deeds have not fully evolved into a direction that will can be

01:23:00.360 interpreted there's elements and things that are still happening that need to come to completion

01:23:06.920 in order for the definitive of understanding so this is the the norms the gods the folk they're

01:23:13.920 all in alignment and now it comes to there are things that need to be completed there's not

01:23:20.460 everything is fully arced and understood and i i think that's a glimmer of hope in a lot of ways

01:23:25.820 the reason why odin is staving off again is because he has a chance if there was no chance

01:23:33.900 and he wouldn't do it. But he sees the hope and the glimmer in the mystery and in the shadow

01:23:40.580 of untold possibilities. And that in the darkest place is the hope, is the ability to willfully

01:23:50.220 manifest, to gain the power of the souls of humanity, to fill up Valhall and to create a

01:23:57.740 substantial force that can go against chaos and dissipation. And so it's a dark rune about mystery

01:24:05.480 and about non-conclusion. But it's also an interesting rune in relation to the femininity.

01:24:18.160 I think this is oftentimes referred to as like the norns in completion, not individually. There

01:24:24.580 is a sense of the well and the the cup or the the uh the chalice or the uh the horn and this is the

01:24:34.020 rune of the of the feminine mystery kind of coming out of that uh that birthing of and some people

01:24:43.140 might notice the the there's not much deviation this rune is not in the younger um it is not in

01:24:49.940 it's it's it's not in the viking uh futhark if you will um it it does present in our elder um

01:24:59.460 and in our anglo-saxon um but not in the nordic and i think that's one of the key things that

01:25:07.540 this is the first rune that really establishes that when we look at the elder and we look at

01:25:12.740 the younger this room kind of anchors it that this there was a clear shaving down in the younger

01:25:19.700 futhark and it's glaring with this room but it's yeah the rune of mystery and i i didn't want to

01:25:26.900 bring it up like so we just covered iwas and now we've moved into into perthro um it's worth noting

01:25:36.020 some things that i think a lot of people don't realize is that most of our elder futhark comes

01:25:41.220 from two sources two archaeological finds from sweden and one of them is completely lost to

01:25:51.380 history it was stolen in 1938 i think it's 1938 might be 1934 um in sweden and uh that is the

01:26:01.220 elder futhark its real um oldest connections are in the kilver stone and the vat stena

01:26:11.700 or vad stena bractiet bractiet it's uh um these two um uh pieces of archaeology

01:26:22.340 show a full futhark of the elder futhark and it's one these are the only two

01:26:29.140 outside of the anglo-saxon rune poems which shows it written these date so we know that the

01:26:35.540 the kilberstone comes from around 400 um but it's unknown about the that stenebrekte it's speculated

01:26:45.140 that it's coming from around 500 but it's unknown because it's been stolen and uh what we have here

01:26:52.900 the reason why i'm bringing these two up is because this is the first time when you see the runes

01:26:58.420 flipped. We have two really old archaeological futharks that have gravitas, but this is the

01:27:08.820 first part of the sequence where two runes are clearly flipped, and that's 13 and 14.

01:27:15.560 So in the Kilverstone, in the oldest one, after Yira, Perthro shows up, and a lot of people don't

01:27:24.680 really talk about this. I think it's, it's, it's an interesting topic. It's an interesting subject,

01:27:30.580 but nobody really seems to, to touch on it. Is that in the Kilverstone, why does Perthro follow

01:27:35.460 Yira and not Ewas? And then Ewas follows Perthro. And then in the Vadstana Brekde, we have

01:27:45.020 the order that we use today and also the order that was used in the Anglo-Saxon Futhark. So

01:27:52.260 there seems to be some continuancy there, but no one quite talks about it. So on the runic revival

01:27:58.200 that, that came about really, um, Edred Thorson, so far as I know, is the one who has codified

01:28:07.180 the current Futhark and he flips them back towards the Vat Stenebrek day. Um, but then

01:28:17.400 does a reversal again in relation towards the end of the of the entirety of the food art so that's

01:28:24.040 where this is kind of an interesting route these two runes and why i was talking about the mysteries

01:28:28.320 behind them and no doubt why you know the mysteries would be focused around these runes

01:28:34.240 um these three runes are really really interesting so i don't know uh i think nick has a picture of

01:28:40.300 the the kelver stone um yeah here's the kelver stone from sweden and if you look at the era

01:28:48.460 the era rune is where you can really kind of just anchor yourself immediately following era is

01:28:54.860 perthro and then he was and uh again like a lot of people do not bring this up um that the

01:29:03.580 the Culverstone has this anomaly. Um, the Vadstena Brekte is, has the, uh, the correct alignment

01:29:15.320 there with Yira and Iwas. Now it's worth noting, it seems that the jeweler that made the, you'll

01:29:22.840 see a Birkenau rune or Bjarkan rune following it. Uh, again, Perthro is basically the Birkenau

01:29:30.820 rune opened up and i think that the the jeweler didn't have the template to press on the on the

01:29:38.820 gold so both of these um futharks have discrepancies have issues have uh possibilities of of you know

01:29:46.900 mistakes being made or or what have you in in the vat stand of brekta you see two burka knows

01:29:52.820 and i don't think that was intended i think that perthrow is burkano close and he might not have

01:29:59.700 or she might not have had the you know the uh the the punch for it if you will um

01:30:08.340 but that's when you start to see this happening and it throws a lot off and i think that perhaps

01:30:14.820 um edward thorson's desire to combine the two was to to make a mediation um of of these so he follows

01:30:24.420 the vet stena and flips back the kelver stone but the kelver stone has a lot of uh interesting

01:30:30.500 inconsistencies as well um as far as you know the placement of and the usage of here you see

01:30:36.900 like so willow is utilized like how most of us see it but on the kelvin stone it's a three-point

01:30:43.220 and it's facing in another direction um it's worth noting though the vets tend to break

01:30:48.420 is backwards and that's because it was uh you know it they they must have carved a punch and

01:30:54.340 then placed gold on it and then pressed it so it's in reverse because the carving was done in the

01:31:00.900 correct um setting so these two runes this is where things start to get a little crazy because

01:31:08.660 not only is this room not in the younger it's also flipped between the oldest form of the food

01:31:15.860 arc that we have and then the second oldest or speculated second oldest um futhark that we have

01:31:23.220 this bractiate was stolen they did find another one but it was destroyed so now all we have is

01:31:30.740 drawings of its existence from the 30s and it was stolen um you know i think just prior to the war

01:31:37.540 So I'm trying to think of how I want to, I don't know, phrase some of my thoughts on this.

01:31:57.560 in one fundamental way this is so this is a rune of manifestation it's a rune of

01:32:10.520 something emerging from the unknown into the known

01:32:15.980 it's a proving of fate and a proving and a testing of luck

01:32:22.060 um that's why it's referred to as the dice cup in a lot of ways

01:32:28.540 there is a tremendous amount of courage to step into the unknown or to draw forth

01:32:38.680 the unknown and then face the consequences

01:32:41.720 um one thing that is the most fearful is the unknown because we don't know how to

01:32:51.840 steel ourselves against it you don't know how to set your jaw and be willing to take the punch

01:32:57.880 because you don't know what's coming and i think that we all know the truth of that

01:33:04.120 you can take a breath once you know exactly what evil is leveled against you because then

01:33:11.440 at that point, you can begin to plan and prepare and rationalize and come to terms. But if you don't

01:33:22.700 know, then you have this tingling in your, you know, medulla oblongata and you just, you're on

01:33:31.380 edge and you don't know what to prepare for. The unknown is the most scary thing there is

01:33:36.940 because we fill it with our own fears

01:33:41.360 and our own apprehensions.

01:33:43.780 The unknown is terrifying.

01:33:47.320 Drawing forth from the unknown

01:33:49.600 into the known, into the world,

01:33:54.040 manifesting from the world of potential

01:33:59.180 into the world, you know,

01:34:01.140 the world of what could be, what might be

01:34:03.220 into the world of what is,

01:34:04.740 is fundamental. And it's the difference between something being an idea and it being real and a

01:34:12.300 thing. In a lot of ways, this is the difference between, you know, I've mentioned before that

01:34:20.700 the biggest step in Ausitru is the step, you know, the distance from the couch to the door.

01:34:26.280 going from hey this is an idea wouldn't this be cool to I'm going to go do this that's what makes

01:34:34.920 this real and it can be terrifying I think in a lot of ways this does encapsulate the

01:34:43.000 the mysteries of of the womb and of birth I think you see that in the iconography of the shape of

01:34:50.940 the room you do see like Svahn mentioned if you take Bircano and you you open it outwards it's

01:34:58.320 this shape I think you know we see the cup the chalice we see the idea of the vagina and the

01:35:05.480 womb and and the birthing process so something goes from this formative stage of you know and

01:35:14.300 women may see this differently because they feel stuff that we don't and it's going on

01:35:21.220 within them internally but as a father there's something

01:35:27.200 like your child is cooking in there and doing whatever it's doing

01:35:34.360 and you don't know and you have all these questions and concerns and fears and hopes

01:35:40.260 and dreams and all of these things and until that baby comes out into the world those hopes and those

01:35:46.980 fears and all those things are it's all the unknown and there's nothing you can really do

01:35:52.980 and it's it's scary in the moment that the child manifests and is there then you're presented with

01:35:59.860 it if there's a problem at least you know and you can deal with it if everything goes wonderfully

01:36:05.940 then you've got your amazing child and even though it's dripping with gore it's yours and

01:36:10.980 you love it and it's awesome so but that unknown that drawing something forth from the land of

01:36:18.260 mystery into the land of reality and what's known is fundamental to our faith and i don't

01:36:26.100 think there's words that i can say that encapsulate it as well as it should be um

01:36:35.940 So one of the things, you know, a lot of the things with this are the idea of the cauldron or the well of pulling some reaching into the waters and pulling something out, reaching into the rune bag and drawing a rune.

01:36:53.940 The idea of reaching across the veil, getting something, and then bringing it into our reality is fundamental to a lot of magic in general.

01:37:07.260 And I think it's fundamental to Odin's rune quest as well.

01:37:10.620 Well, he went through a ritual death to reach into something and to pull out the runes.

01:37:25.460 Roaring, he took them up and he fell back again.

01:37:29.560 The idea of reaching into the unknown and bringing something forth in a very fundamental way.

01:37:36.540 and in broad terms on this program and in our faith and in our worldview order is good chaos

01:37:49.340 is bad but in a different sense it's order mastering chaos so

01:37:57.740 when we go back to the very beginning in creation there is is ganunga gap

01:38:06.180 there is this place this yawning void full of magical potential

01:38:13.560 emerging from that chaos we have the god of consciousness that shapes these things

01:38:22.260 The idea of reaching into primordial chaos and pulling something out and shaping it and manifesting it is fundamental to the act of the vidki.

01:38:35.280 the idea of pulling knowledge from our ancestors from the dead perhaps from the land of the gods

01:38:45.540 and pulling that and then speaking it forth manifesting it forth in a way this rune is

01:38:52.320 also a mouth putting it into existence is the art of the vulva or the the seeress

01:39:02.080 in another way taking things from the gods manifesting them and then sharing them with

01:39:12.740 the folk is the fundamental act of of the gothi this is a very important rune of

01:39:19.400 taking things beyond the veil or taking things from the world of of the the idea

01:39:27.500 and pulling them out and manifesting them in the world around us.

01:39:34.580 And we do that fundamentally in the idea of reaching into the room bag

01:39:38.420 or whatever we have and pulling out a room.

01:39:46.140 So this is a,

01:39:49.660 if any of you have read The Spear by Steve McNallan, our founder,

01:39:55.500 in the first house here you go through the astral folk assembly he talks about you know some really

01:40:02.920 pivotal things that crystal clear presented the reality of our faith and our gods to him

01:40:11.420 one of them was a consistent three times i believe three consecutive days room pull of this room

01:40:20.680 and uh you know he mentions the odds in there and there's something astronomical

01:40:26.460 um but a lot of people think you know like swan said this is a rune of like this is the blank

01:40:35.060 rune or this is like the random like the question mark on the magic eight ball

01:40:40.280 and it's not it's a rune of manifestation it's a rune of pulling from what is not currently

01:40:49.760 and bringing it into what is and fundamentally that's what our founder Steve McNallon did

01:40:58.320 he took something from the land of the gods and beyond the veil that had retreated and that had

01:41:03.920 left the land of the living because we gave it up he took that out of that world and brought it

01:41:12.220 into ours and manifested planting that seed that's grown into what we have today this is a very very

01:41:18.680 important and special rune in that way um nick could you go ahead and put us up a rune poem for

01:41:29.320 this please uh pureth is a source of creation and amusement to the great where warriors sit

01:41:41.480 blithely together in the banqueting hall um one thing that it was a pastime of our folk

01:41:50.360 and was noted on by numerous people that encountered our people in ancient times

01:41:57.160 was their the sport they made of gambling and of casting dice um

01:42:11.480 One thing, and I mentioned all of these things, I worry that I'm just stream of consciencing, just vomiting all these things out at you.

01:42:22.940 And it makes sense in my head, I promise.

01:42:25.900 But there's so many things that interconnect here.

01:42:35.200 It's important to me, and I've initiated the idea of the 10th noble virtue, that of victory.

01:42:41.480 the idea of being victorious and of being a winner was fought very highly of by our ancestors

01:42:50.620 because it meant that you had a powerful luck and a powerful hymena. Your success was a reflection

01:42:57.200 of your divine favor and of your spiritual gravitas. So our ancestors, they would test

01:43:02.980 their luck lawyer uh warriors would test the fate of things by these games of chance

01:43:10.820 and those who are blessed and who are fortunate would come out on top with and it was a proving

01:43:16.100 ground for a person's worth and their gravitas in a lot of ways so um you know it was it was

01:43:25.300 remarked that freedmen and and thanes would would gamble away their freedom on the roll of the dice

01:43:35.380 or on the way of of checking this this is a very arian thing it's not just a germanic thing

01:43:41.780 you see dice very prominently in the roman empire and you see all these different shaped dice and

01:43:49.220 one of the reasons for that was the point of dice wasn't randomization randomization didn't come

01:43:54.980 into it randomization prevented you from rigging it the idea was you were manifesting the luck

01:44:02.820 and the fate um bestowed upon you by the gods so i i don't care if you got loaded dice or not

01:44:10.100 my gods are strong enough that my role is going to be right that was the idea behind it and you see

01:44:17.540 this expression so often with the idea of dice that's why this is thought of often symbolically

01:44:23.940 as the dice cup. When Caesar crossed the Rubicon, the famous phrase, but in Latin,

01:44:48.420 the die is cast. Once it's done, you've taken from the what could be to the what is.

01:44:56.220 Should I march on Rome? Should I not? All right, cool. Once we're across the Rubicon, it's done.

01:45:03.020 We've manifested it. So if I'm lucky, I win. If I'm not lucky, I don't. But that idea of,

01:45:10.080 of, you know, well, let's roll the dice goes back to this concept fundamentally. And our ancestors

01:45:18.420 in the time where they're most connected with our gods faced that with confidence because they

01:45:24.940 believed and they could trust in their luck and trust in their faith. And that's a lot of what

01:45:30.340 this uh what this symbolizes i have waxed verbose on this one i uh appreciate you guys bearing bear

01:45:40.820 with me on that swan do you have anything to add on this room before we get back to questions

01:45:49.620 um no i think what you covered was really important is the manifestation of unknown the the the this

01:45:57.540 is um uh the threshold rune that i think in the in the overall uh epoch of in the story

01:46:09.220 that we've been talking about this is the rune that coalesces everything together

01:46:14.100 and presses forward from there so in a way even though it's not precisely in the middle

01:46:19.940 depending on which food target you're looking at or i you know joke about that but it's the

01:46:25.620 it certainly is the gateway after where all things as far as meaning go start to move forward and

01:46:33.780 outward into the manifestation of reality or or i would say the synchronization of

01:46:39.380 all possibilities become manifest in this room so yeah all right with that svan if you see the chat

01:46:53.140 can you spell frayer's name in runes or link it somehow thanks yes i do see the chat um this has

01:47:03.620 been a ongoing issue sometimes my chat freezes but it's been going well tonight i also see robert

01:47:09.540 eboy lee he's uh he's over here um plotting on us holding hold all your questions to the last

01:47:18.820 when it looks like we're trying to pack it up then we just then they dump on it whoa

01:47:23.140 yeah you're gonna have to talk to swan's wife about that yeah that was inspiring on us no um i

01:47:30.500 do see it and i would say the biggest thing to ask is are you talking about old norse or are you

01:47:37.940 talking about the modern translation of old norse and i just went with old norse because that's you

01:47:46.260 you know, the last and most prevalent. Most people, when they see in modern English, it's

01:47:54.620 F-R-E-Y, but it's important to understand in Old Norse, the Y is a kind of, it's a

01:48:02.080 sound, it connects things. So it's technically two syllables and it's Freyr is Freyr or Freyr's

01:48:13.520 name uh or the the name lord uh ing and frovi are often also utilized with equal sense so i did

01:48:21.560 write it i wrote it in elder elder futhark and i wrote it in the folk futhark as what the way it

01:48:29.560 would be presented and i just did that for you to have the possibility depending on what you're

01:48:34.240 planning on or how you're planning on writing this um in which way you might want to use so

01:48:39.400 Here is the Elder, and it's Freyr, and then here is the Folk Futhark, which utilizes a combination.

01:48:50.900 Obviously, these are of the Elder.

01:48:53.080 This is of the Armanin, and this is of the Anglo-Saxon.

01:48:57.540 Again, for a lot of people who might not know, there was an accusation leveled upon us that we were creating our own in reality.

01:49:05.560 if they understood all the futharks they'd see it was just a coalescing of all of them uh with the

01:49:11.940 intention of getting everyone to kind of get interested in all of the futharks and there's

01:49:15.720 some symbolic uh you know um uh ways if you will instead of in a way we were we were codifying for

01:49:25.600 language to to be able to pass on information in our artwork but uh it draws from all of them so

01:49:33.300 um i don't know if you need that again just uh hopefully you're still on here but if you're not

01:49:38.820 you know you can screenshot that but i did see it um excellent yeah he was prepared he was on top of

01:49:46.660 it um just a side note in the almost two hours now we've been on here we you guys have been awesome

01:49:57.380 and we have raised more money for michael von's headstone we currently are short 199

01:50:09.380 that means that we've raised a total of 150 just about 149 um

01:50:17.860 we started this show we'd raised 20 so thank you guys um next question matt and svan i'd like to

01:50:26.740 hear your thoughts on this i saw some folks making an argument that odin is too modern of a word and

01:50:33.860 we should only use historical names like odin woden votan and they even argued that oh i can't

01:50:43.380 make this sound different that odin like this like the swedes column is more accurate than odin

01:50:50.600 Swedes spell it with an E as opposed to the O-D-I-N, for those of you listening on Spotify, which comes out on Fridays.

01:51:00.620 I thought it was silly, but I want to know your thoughts. 0.80

01:51:03.460 I think it's silly, too. 0.73

01:51:09.500 Is your.

01:51:10.340 there are really different approaches and this is a theme we harp on here all the time

01:51:20.100 if i am in the society for creative anachronisms and i am trying to role play a viking of a certain

01:51:31.360 age then it would be really important or i i guess it would be kind of cool as an extra thing to do

01:51:40.240 to refer to Odin in the way that that particular flavor of Viking at that particular moment in

01:51:51.300 history would have referred to him. Perhaps if I was a German World War II reenactor and I wanted

01:52:01.880 to refer to Wotan as it would have been appropriate linguistically at the time.

01:52:07.640 assuming that i am not reenacting or larping things do i think that the god of wisdom and

01:52:17.700 aryan consciousness doesn't know i'm speaking to him unless i use and why would we use odin why

01:52:27.480 why wouldn't we just call him wodenaz or why wouldn't we you know or what our caveman ancestors

01:52:36.780 might have referred to him as the logic the logic on it is silly now as far as the afa is concerned

01:52:46.800 I like to refer to him with the oh with the little dash over the top with the the the ed

01:52:54.720 and the i and the double n because it's the the old Norse way of doing it because that's the

01:53:01.920 language of most of the lore that's come to us. I do that because I think it's fun and nice and

01:53:10.660 kind of a kind of a cool thing to do. But it's not blasphemous or offensive to spell it differently

01:53:20.260 or use a different pronunciation of it. And do you think that the Allfather is really that petty?

01:53:31.920 that if a sincere believer wants to

01:53:36.560 use any of the different appropriate spellings of his names

01:53:40.880 or any of his many different kennings

01:53:48.080 do you think that he doesn't know that you're referring to him

01:53:51.360 does he think that you're being disrespectful what is the actual

01:53:55.360 concern because i don't care what the well

01:53:58.720 actually push up the glasses nerds want to say i care what the all-father thinks

01:54:05.840 and if the victory father is pleased with us reaching out to him and speaking his name

01:54:12.480 that's the biggest concern and i think that any argument for or against should be what do you 0.90

01:54:19.200 think he thinks and appreciates anything else is just you know window dressing masturbatory

01:54:27.600 school uh what are your thoughts fun uh 100 agree i think um i mean it's like it's worth noting so

01:54:39.040 uh you know when i when i was teaching my kids about the gods i would use the word

01:54:44.960 wolden and they know the reason why i did that was because uh it was easier for them to stay

01:54:51.440 especially when they're when they're little um but then having conversations with with else here go

01:54:58.160 the um and the the need for us to unify to come together to have a decided central point to have

01:55:07.360 a place a mark on the map or a place to kind of chain things down is really important and

01:55:15.600 why should we not look at the biggest corpus of lore that we have in the language that we

01:55:20.880 that they spoke of so it makes total sense and i i don't really have a problem with it you know i

01:55:26.800 even talk about the the dropping of the w outside of many old norse words that had w or v sounds

01:55:35.600 beforehand and why odin dili and vey uh exist as they do whereas you know the the uh prospective

01:55:44.240 ideas of anglo-saxon woden uh willay and wayo um and you know all of those things are great

01:55:53.200 they're fun to talk about but at the end of the day he who is odin odin woldana's

01:56:03.760 nose or whatever other thousand heighty he might he has that you can easily uh you know place out

01:56:11.760 there um that's kind of the whole point is like a thousand names and we're we're bickering over

01:56:20.720 you know which ones but it's worth noting and understanding because you do get a lot of people

01:56:25.120 who kind of like well from my basement and my you know uh scholastic point of view this is this and

01:56:32.720 it's like no okay we get that we understand that we understand the w was dropped in the old norse

01:56:38.000 that's why it's odin and not wothin or whatever and then when you look at the english they have

01:56:44.000 you know it's is it a v or is it a w is it is it woden or is it voden and what we really need to

01:56:50.880 understand is american writers that were writing the stories of the gods were writing from the

01:57:00.480 norse perspective so even though linguistically it should have been or could have been unbroken

01:57:09.440 and been anglo-saxon it was broken and then retrospectively they're looking back at old

01:57:15.200 norse so they start to anglicize based off of things that have already happened in english

01:57:22.720 so a perfect example of this happens as well with with lady freak amongst the norse

01:57:29.440 old norse it's frig but in english to add an a at the end uh anglicizing a feminine

01:57:38.320 so it kind of genders her in the proper sense so it's i don't think it's done wrong but it

01:57:46.400 automatically is done and most people don't even think about it they say frigga but in old norse

01:57:50.720 it's frig it's the same with uh where we celebrate her a lot around this time of year during winter

01:57:58.000 finding is even or eduna because again the th sound ev is taken out and an a makes a gendered

01:58:07.520 feminization of the name again i don't think that's wrong at all but it's worth noting

01:58:12.960 understanding and then you know if we're standing during bloat and someone says hail even and

01:58:18.720 someone says hail you know edina or e yeah edina or eden it's still understood no we kick them out

01:58:28.000 and they got to go stand out in the street and wait until we're done before they can

01:58:33.360 we make them walk a gauntlet where we beat them in order to get 0.99

01:58:39.120 no and that's that's the thing don't be stupid learn things and learn about linguistics and this 0.99

01:58:47.440 Because scholarship isn't bad, but scholarship isn't religion. 0.99

01:58:55.820 Learning these things and knowing them is valuable.

01:58:59.780 Knowing things is important.

01:59:03.100 Learning reasons why is important.

01:59:06.220 But at the end of the day, your religion needs to be focused on the gods and not on some obscure book you read.

01:59:14.720 The author of your book is not a god.

01:59:19.900 Odin is a god.

01:59:23.480 His thoughts on how you ought to say his name or not are much more important than dude who wrote a book about it.

01:59:36.820 And that's got to be the focus if we're going to be sincere in what we do.

01:59:41.020 And it's, you know, I make jokes. It's funny because I think the argument is just kind of ridiculous. But again, I'll say this. I try to make sure that in the AFA, we spell and use the Old Norse version of the names. So it's all consistent. So we're doing it across the board. 0.90

02:00:02.140 that's something that i try to do because it's something matt thinks is cool and consistent and

02:00:09.840 a good thing to do it wouldn't be wrong to do it any number of other appropriate ways

02:00:17.220 the point is that whatever you do and however you come down on it that you're doing it out of

02:00:23.120 respect if you were doing it out of respect and you were genuinely trying to honor whatever god

02:00:29.740 whose name you speak that's the point the rest of it is all you know bells and whistles it's all

02:00:40.460 it's all extras uh he brought up one thing to odin in he said amongst the swedes it's worth noting

02:00:48.780 like uh thor or thor uh amongst you know the modern is tor tor or it's the sound tour and so

02:01:01.740 you know it's like there it's the big unifier i think for all of us is that an american

02:01:08.780 and a swede can both coalesce on old norse it may be easier for them to say

02:01:17.340 many of the words but not always uh you know some or someone who speaks fluent german uh might have

02:01:24.700 a hard time rolling their arse um as it would be proper in old norse but that's one thing that we

02:01:32.140 can all agree on and i think that's the thing that else here ago they really kind of calibrated my 0.93

02:01:38.060 brain on was like don't get so caught up in the these little tiny details as so much more as

02:01:45.020 seeing us as like unifying and or at least coming to an agreement so and this is another point in it

02:01:50.780 and we're beating this rather silly question to death but it illustrates some bigger points that

02:01:58.460 are very important um why are you weaponizing your book learning what is the point of that

02:02:12.380 is that to elevate you amongst the people you're around and not the person we asked the question

02:02:19.500 also thought it was silly i'm not faulting that but the original source who made the

02:02:24.220 silly point that odin's too modern we should use odin are you doing that to try to one-up

02:02:33.660 the people around you or to try to i don't know humiliate other people who are sincerely

02:02:41.100 approaching our gods by you know acting like you you're better than them or what what is the purpose

02:02:49.020 in doing that because if the purpose is to be divisive i think that's disrespectful

02:02:56.540 and i think that somebody who does it in order to demean and keep other people from sincerely

02:03:03.260 worshiping over them i think how they pronounce the name doesn't matter they are offensive

02:03:12.060 and i think that the person who's sincere even if they can even if they butcher it if they're

02:03:18.060 sincere and they're trying to do it right i have to think that the all-father appreciates that 0.93

02:03:24.460 more than somebody who's just being a jerk um but that's just a fundamental thing of being a person 0.92

02:03:33.260 Hopefully, people will get their head on straight about that. 0.98

02:03:39.260 Next question.

02:03:43.260 EWAS has to be different to ESA.

02:03:49.260 Double E sound though, or what is ESA then?

02:03:54.260 This is a fine question.

02:03:56.260 This is like in that last question about Odin that I couldn't even tell you the difference between Swedish Odin

02:04:02.260 in american odin just like pin and pin and pin it's the same word i can't try to pretend that

02:04:09.780 i pronounce a pin you put animals in as somehow different than a pin you write with i just don't

02:04:16.100 i say pin for both so swan if you can break down this kind of subtle difference for folks

02:04:25.620 what would be the difference between eastland and eastland i don't know what the difference is

02:04:32.100 the the holding of the of the sound you can see it in modern icelandic too and in old norse when

02:04:38.820 they started writing in latin alphabet they put a dash above the letter to show the the emphasis of

02:04:45.300 the length of the sound and it was important enough to create the system because the language

02:04:51.380 existed before latinization or utilizing latin words or latin letters i mean i'm sorry so that

02:04:59.700 was important enough to understand that there was a differentiation that there was an understanding

02:05:04.020 that there is a sound and then there is a longer sound and it could have a totally different meaning

02:05:08.900 and a totally different value in the syllabic makeup of the of the word um even down to the

02:05:16.020 point where like again the the letter r is its own syllable so there's bald

02:05:22.580 and that's a double syllable word right there uh for the name of of the bold one and so

02:05:30.500 it's uh it's that that is the slight difference is the difference between a quick

02:05:36.580 and a e and so what i the biggest problem is is that when you start to go into translations

02:05:42.920 whether you're talking about german american english or just or i'll just say english all

02:05:49.080 around um uh or if you're talking about modern icelandic or modern swedish or modern norwegian

02:05:54.560 and you start getting into translations they're gonna they're gonna vary so what we ended up

02:06:00.460 doing in the folk food arc is the the um isa is a short i sound so like in sit and it and bit

02:06:11.380 it's also the i sound like in iceland so spelling iceland would still be with the isa rune and then

02:06:20.660 the ewaz rune is the double e sound so like in the words like meet or greet or um uh

02:06:29.480 anything where there's a double e because one of the rules that we created in the folk food

02:06:35.040 talk is that there's no double letters but there's a lot of letters that have a double e sound so we

02:06:39.380 utilize EWAS in relation to that. And then to, again, to create another differentiation,

02:06:47.040 the word like meat that when we meet together and meat that we eat, what we ended up doing was

02:06:55.000 creating, we, we utilize EWAS with onsous after it for any word that is an E-A sound.

02:07:02.040 Because again, we're, we're driving home the point that there's a, the sound is a long double E

02:07:07.040 versus a short double e or an i which is utilized now just like when we utilize yra for j's and y's

02:07:16.400 so there's a lot of uh runes that have secondary kind of functions and i think it's important

02:07:22.020 that when we talk about isa we see isa as a short i sound and secondary an i sound

02:07:29.260 and then with iwas we see it singularly as a double e sound or utilized in the beginning of

02:07:39.340 some old norse words that are commonly translated as a j that's the confusion like with your man

02:07:45.820 got your man gander airman soul or or er for iron i think it would be more fitting to utilize the

02:07:53.820 ewaz room um than it would you know for the short eye very seriously this is really nice that we have

02:08:06.620 your mastery of linguistics on here because it's something a lot of us struggle with on some of

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02:10:41.340 all right so okay kind of a palate cleanser here from sierra what is your favorite childhood

02:10:50.380 nostalgia meal you know the one your grandma used to make that had been passed down for generations

02:10:59.500 Svahn, what say you on this?

02:11:04.700 Those two are not the same, but as far as-

02:11:08.200 All right, it was both.

02:11:09.820 Yeah, childhood nostalgia.

02:11:11.160 You got to remember, I came to America when I was very young,

02:11:16.920 so what my mother made is what kept us in connection a lot to Iceland.

02:11:23.320 I remember our first Thanksgiving, we had a lamb's head on the table,

02:11:26.940 and my friend was absolutely freaking out by it um that that uh

02:11:34.340 that versus the nostalgia food of my childhood coming into america um

02:11:41.720 wow uh so and i i think i i brought this up and i remember and my wife is gonna chuckle if

02:11:49.860 she watches this and sees this she's gonna absolutely lose it so uh lamb hunk is uh

02:11:59.700 icelandic lamb and it is uh it's smoked and condensed it's very very uh like solid and

02:12:08.260 oftentimes it's served at you know from they bring it out of the fridge and serve it cold it's not

02:12:13.380 even really cooked so uh i would say for me it's hunk with jelly it's like the one piece of food

02:12:23.220 from iceland now there's others uh my my sister sometimes would send me like heart of the fist

02:12:29.060 good which is my friends again who always find infinite joy in joking icelandic food uh call it

02:12:35.620 whale scabs but it's uh dried fish dry cod um and it's usually eaten with butter and then um also

02:12:43.220 like leaf bread fried it's a fried round um you know very very thin uh or an icelandic pancake

02:12:54.180 again very very thin like a crepe style but hunkakjot is by far my favorite with a little bit

02:13:00.260 of jelly um is phenomenal uh and i can't describe it other than it's it's lamb that's been smoked

02:13:09.700 and cured so it's very dense and you slice it almost like you would a salami but it's

02:13:14.820 it's um i mean it's fairly round because it was a leg of lamb nostalgia wise though

02:13:22.260 stuffing so uh and this is the part that's gonna make my wife really laugh and

02:13:28.500 so uh we were listening to some person on youtube talk about uh like mandela effects ideas and all

02:13:36.100 these things and he you know he brings up the point there was never a stouffer's stovetop

02:13:40.420 stuffing because stouffer's is a frozen food but i remember everyone calling it that when i came

02:13:47.940 to the states and i was very little and my my family was introduced to stuffing and

02:13:54.340 my father was like yeah it's it's stouffer's stovetop stuffing and we were like it's just

02:13:59.460 bread it's just bread and then when it was made and we were eating it we were like oh my god this

02:14:03.940 it's really good like it's just bread seasonings and so on and so forth so like it just threw us

02:14:10.300 off because stuffing wasn't something that we knew about and so like at that same thanksgiving we had

02:14:15.660 lamb's head and we had stuffing and that was kind of like uh that was when that nostalgia was born

02:14:23.280 so stuffing you know uh with giblet gravy is like so american to me that it's it's a very nostalgic

02:14:30.300 food when I think of the fall and I think of like comfort food um that box of non-existent

02:14:38.640 stouffer stovetop stuffing so trying to think of the stuff that really brings me back um very

02:14:56.280 close to one of my grandmothers uh my mother's mother we lived in the same uh the same city

02:15:03.080 growing up she's probably maybe a mile and a half from us so i spent a lot of time with that

02:15:10.840 grandmother my other okay so this grandmother marianne davis she passed away in

02:15:20.520 i want to say 2003 i feel a little bit shameful i can't check that to make sure

02:15:25.000 um anyways about 20 years ago regardless and uh she used to cook a lot of stuff my other

02:15:34.280 grandmother is still alive and is 93 years old right now so i'm very fortunate in that but

02:15:41.080 she's never cooked me a meal i didn't have we didn't grow up very close together geographically

02:15:47.640 um so anyways my mom's mother and we have a picture of her in our kitchen

02:15:53.000 because she was always the one that wanted to host like family family meals we would always

02:15:58.700 have thanksgiving at her table always you know christmas and um christmas eve and easter and

02:16:07.860 any any of the family gatherings would be at her at her table um but this wasn't really one of

02:16:14.880 those foods it's just kind of stuff she'd cook for me when i was little or up until she passed

02:16:21.660 stuff she cooked for me whenever fried chicken gizzards I tell you what I love me some fried

02:16:30.880 chicken gizzards I just wasn't expecting you to say that fry them up with well she's from

02:16:39.140 she's from Wiggins Mississippi and fry up you know dredge them in some flour and some salt

02:16:46.440 some pepper fry them up eat them with some ketchup i i can eat quite a lot of fried chicken

02:16:53.160 um those are absolutely delicious i think about those a lot when i think about her and my

02:16:58.600 childhood and they're awesome if you haven't eaten them you should try them um

02:17:05.240 my dad completely separate no idea why his people aren't uh from the south at least for

02:17:11.720 the past four or five generations um but he was real big on the fried chicken hearts and fried

02:17:17.800 chicken livers i like the hearts gizzards are my favorite um something else my grandma would cook

02:17:27.000 often was chicken fried steak she would fry a lot of things again i mentioned she was from mississippi

02:17:35.480 frying is delicious i don't recommend it if you are struggling with obesity but assuming

02:17:41.480 you are not fried fried stuff's awesome chicken fried steak is amazing it's one of my go-to's all

02:17:47.960 the time whenever i go out anywhere especially breakfast but i love for dinner i would eat

02:17:53.080 chicken fried steak whenever you want i'd eat fried chicken gizzards whenever you want i wish

02:17:57.400 i was right now curse you guys for bringing it up because now i'm hungry but there you have it

02:18:06.760 it. Matter of fact, Sierra mentioned that. Maybe we'll do that for one of my dinners I have over

02:18:11.660 here that Sierra makes it to because they're awesome. Okay. A related question to our Egypt

02:18:30.120 question earlier. Do you think ancient Egyptians were white? I'm not saying them not being white,

02:18:36.760 white makes them black either.

02:18:43.760 So,

02:18:49.760 again, ancient Egypt spans thousands of years.

02:18:56.760 The fundamental core population of ancient Egypt, I don't think is white.

02:19:03.760 think is probably closer to Semitic Turkic kind of looking folks. But when you deal with the higher

02:19:18.200 caste with the priesthood and pharaohs and things of that nature, I think that fluctuates a lot

02:19:26.920 depending upon who makes it where and what tribes conquer what and integrate where i do think that

02:19:35.960 our ancestors tend to rise quickly on the social ladder when they find themselves in foreign lands

02:19:45.320 um undoubtedly some of the pharaohs have arian dna to them not solely but at least in part

02:19:52.920 so i think that that's a thing that happens like i said um surely ptolemy is white and his children

02:20:02.460 and their children and their children are white um in any of the macedonian ptolemaic dynasty

02:20:10.000 certainly before that i think you probably get some some some white folks admixture in there

02:20:19.320 I don't think you get a lot of black admixture.

02:20:23.320 I don't think that that is the same phenomenon.

02:20:28.200 Although, you know, blacks were certainly not unknown in Egypt,

02:20:32.760 but I don't think it's like the Michael Jackson video where,

02:20:35.960 you know, Eddie Murphy is is the Pharaoh.

02:20:38.680 I don't think that that's that's how that worked out.

02:20:43.880 I forgot about that.

02:20:46.040 I remember the time.

02:20:48.520 shot it right in there got to spawn what are your thoughts uh yeah i mean i uh i remember talking

02:21:02.840 at length with uh somebody who's way more versed in in uh the the uh egyptian and nubian wars the um

02:21:11.800 there was a time when when egypt uh expanded southward which which means also going up into

02:21:17.400 the highlands of nubia and which would be like ethiopia and somalia now and they you know they

02:21:24.360 conquered nubia and then being an empire you know you conquer places and they kind of influx in

02:21:30.840 and nubians came down and you know were predominantly used in slave class and then

02:21:35.960 over time because again the egyptian uh timeline is just massive there was a time in which you know

02:21:43.720 they uh worked up in the in the warrior cast they they ended up learning um a lot of the fighting

02:21:50.120 abilities and tactics of the egyptians which were very different from the nubian like homelands up

02:21:56.360 in the mountains and stuff and um and then they even held you know like office in the southern

02:22:03.480 parts of uh egypt there's ones that have even you know kind of made up into owning and governing

02:22:10.200 uh swathes of land but um yeah it's just it's too i think egypt was a an empire that was very very

02:22:22.120 woven together by a lot of people it was that nexus point um between you know the the northwestern

02:22:29.400 uh africa all the way to the eastern you know people of all the languages of shem and then

02:22:35.880 you have the mediterranean and you've got the greeks and the um or and the macedonians being

02:22:44.680 really one of the same um in that in that regards and then the people north of them and scythia and

02:22:51.320 things like that there's there's probably people from all over i did i definitely think that that

02:22:56.440 show with uh cleopatra um where the the egyptian man i forgot his name he was saying you know she

02:23:03.080 was a she was of greek descent so you know it's really wrong to kind of just racially come in and

02:23:08.760 and and what have you and a lot of back and forth as you know uh you know white people have done

02:23:16.040 this in the past or so on and so we're a lot of finger pointing and all that but i mean it's pretty

02:23:19.960 well known that was the case she was a greek descent so at what point you know but ancient

02:23:26.680 ancient um again i don't know like i said i i think that that would place us as a people northward

02:23:36.360 and in in the north and in in uh the origin the in the home dale in the haim doll of our of our folk

02:23:46.920 uh whether that's you know the mythical uh hyperborea or whatever of legend whatever it is

02:23:52.600 i just i wonder about that but i don't know all right um next question gentlemen how soon

02:24:05.240 our nation will collapse like rome considering borders excuse me borders wide open and invaders

02:24:12.760 pouring in every collapse is also an opportunity how can we use that for our advantage so

02:24:21.080 last half of this question redeemed it i think that is that is the valuable question um how soon

02:24:29.640 will it collapse so you used rome as an example our nation has not been around as long as it took

02:24:40.760 rome to collapse so that's something to think about

02:24:46.680 I don't know the future and I don't think it works like that um I don't think that

02:24:54.840 entropy tending to set in means that all civilizations will collapse I think that

02:25:01.860 history has a way of doing that the longer that you go we talk about ancient Egypt and

02:25:07.740 ah silly Egyptians that collapsed after 5 000 years or so

02:25:14.580 um I think everything has an ending to it and to look at it as kind of a 0.96

02:25:24.300 I think it's ahistorical so if we're looking at the collapse of civilizations they typically take

02:25:31.980 centuries they take very long periods of time often sometimes they don't and ours is new and

02:25:39.660 of things accelerate we can't really predict that but one thing i'm going to say as far as any kind

02:25:45.420 of societal collapse as long as i've got doordash that can get me any kind of food i want pretty

02:25:53.500 much you know within the hour as long as i can watch netflix and amazon prime and i can order

02:26:01.020 anything on amazon and have it here within a couple of days and i'm warm and i'm cool in the

02:26:07.580 summer and i've got all my needs met it's very hard for rapid collapsing to happen while people

02:26:17.980 have such a very high standard of life and existence when people are very comfortable

02:26:23.660 things don't usually work that way so i think it's you know we've seen a steady and slow decline by

02:26:30.460 a lot of measures but by our material comfort level we haven't seen an equivalent decline

02:26:39.820 and until that happens i don't think that thing's going to be accelerated but either way and this is

02:26:48.780 this is the afa plan

02:26:50.300 join the afa make connections with the people close to you if you can move towards one of our

02:27:02.440 hoffs or better yet move to jackson county tennessee close to siggerheim that way if

02:27:09.640 everything goes swimmingly and things are amazing you are very close to your faith community and

02:27:16.180 you can celebrate all that with your brothers and sisters. If things are hard and difficult,

02:27:23.360 you will have your brothers and sisters to rely upon. They will be able to rely upon you and will

02:27:29.400 be in a good position to have the strength of tribe to outstand anything that happens to us,

02:27:39.320 be it a societal collapse be it any of the things be it natural disasters

02:27:45.640 be it just tragedy in your own personal life we've seen and and i know money is one small

02:27:52.840 variable in that but to say it's small i mean say that somebody is broke it's it's not small

02:27:59.000 in this broadcast of ours that has been going on for two and a half hours

02:28:05.160 we've already done

02:28:09.240 so since last time i talked to you we raised 45 more dollars to take care of a man's tombstone

02:28:21.160 um

02:28:22.280 yeah i've got to stop in math and i'm not great at that but we're 195 dollars into a 349 dollar

02:28:34.320 expense all but 20 of that has been during this broadcast from you guys that's with a handful of

02:28:41.280 us just hearing about and say hey let's fix this let's ship in a little here and there

02:28:46.260 think about that on a bigger stagale and i started this program talking about folk services

02:28:52.100 but the idea of what we're trying to do with sigerheim is much beyond that

02:28:56.880 we're going to have a spot where if you're having a problem you have people right there that can

02:29:04.160 help you. You know, uh-oh, something happened at my house. There's an emergency. Cool. We can roll

02:29:09.420 in there, you know, however many deep to help you out, to make sure you and your family are okay,

02:29:15.440 to help anybody get by. Like, I don't know what to do this month. I don't have enough. I don't

02:29:22.760 have enough for my kids to eat. Cool. Y'all can come over to my house and we'll make it work.

02:29:29.080 Kids aren't going hungry under my watch. There's a lot that we can do when we're close together

02:29:35.220 and when we stand together. We're doing it now to an amazing degree, and we're going to continue

02:29:41.240 to do it as much as we can into the future. We're going to keep each other spiritually healthy.

02:29:47.140 We're going to keep each other physically healthy to the best that we can to make sure that,

02:29:51.600 you know, our kids and our elderly and people who have, you know, things happen aren't in an

02:29:56.900 existential crisis. It's very realistic and it's something we're doing and we want everybody to be

02:30:04.000 a part of that. We want all our folk to be a part of that. What are your thoughts about societal

02:30:11.140 collapse and what advantages to take advantage of from it? Yeah, that's kind of a doom pill versus

02:30:18.100 like a white pill and the same question. I don't know to what litmus that would be. It's like,

02:30:23.740 what is the collapse uh you know the destruction of the constitution or you know like uh rainbow

02:30:30.160 banner drones shooting your kids because they're heterosexuals or something like at what point

02:30:35.460 is the collapse measured like store what is it uh sam hyde is uh you know state force 0.96

02:30:42.840 state enforced homosexuality i remember him saying something like that at a ted talk or

02:30:47.280 that that he that he uh busted in on it's all i'm saying this uh again i'm gonna say it again

02:30:53.400 for the lulz no uh i'm saying it as a joke but uh you know i don't know what the litmus is um to

02:31:00.520 what that might mean you know some people might even consider it like if there was a confederation

02:31:05.480 between like canada and mexico in the u.s that suddenly the sovereignty of our nation and i i

02:31:10.120 would have a tendency to do to agree uh would it would morph into something else and we would cease

02:31:16.200 to be so that in the nature of a collapse is uh not quite a collapse in that regards but it's

02:31:25.480 certainly a a change and i don't think a change for the better um i i just i don't know i guess

02:31:34.920 that that question and what it might pertain to in relation to like again globalist ideals versus

02:31:41.800 nationalist ideals and uh you know nationalism's been in a steady decline now you know you

02:31:48.680 can't say the n-word nationalist or patriot or any of that people get very very spooked out

02:31:54.760 it's been conditioned to a lot of people to get scared about it or or what have you and i mean

02:31:59.960 in that way that's kind of a collapse in and of itself is uh you know certain countries are

02:32:04.600 absolutely proud of their of their nation and others you know you can't be anymore um

02:32:12.520 but in the the the bright side of that is is again what else here has been talking about is

02:32:19.720 working towards uh and it is a hard job to do is to try to get everybody together and focus

02:32:28.040 but when we do it magic happens i mean great things happen um you know people can't even

02:32:33.640 and bend their mind around the achievements that we make

02:32:38.280 just by having a group of people all dedicated forward

02:32:43.060 and achieving an ideal.

02:32:45.280 I mean, people come up with absurd,

02:32:47.560 absolutely absurd reasons why we are successful.

02:32:51.480 And that just tickles me to no end

02:32:53.820 that we are doing so well that they have to come up

02:32:56.140 with like stories about aliens or the mafia

02:33:01.140 and the and cartels giving us and funneling us money in order to get things done when in reality

02:33:08.760 it's just the power of us unifying together under one banner and getting things done

02:33:12.660 and so that's that's the the bright side of that is do that now it doesn't matter what the litmus

02:33:18.340 of a collapse or a decline or an amalgamation just do it now that we can if you do it now

02:33:24.640 we're winning if the country wins and we're winning if the country loses it's the best thing

02:33:31.360 to do in great times and it's the best thing to do in hard times on that wandering lawyer over

02:33:37.440 on entropy for 25 says less doom porn more breeding come to the hof and help us build stuff

02:33:46.800 life is good folks life is wonderful and uh i think the more we hold our head up and and realize

02:33:55.840 that and embrace that the better we're all going to be doing there's so many opportunities in front

02:34:00.560 of all of us and there's so much opportunity in front of us together if we stand strong as one

02:34:05.920 if we join up if we be part of the afa family moving forward that's where the magic happens

02:34:13.200 that's when we do great things and uh i am very very fortunate and very blessed to be a part of

02:34:19.440 that with you guys introspection on that too worth looking at yourself and going am i

02:34:27.840 dooming everything uh you had a conversation with a gentleman that was uh very very doom and gloom

02:34:35.920 and talking about it wanted to talk about it we need to talk about it it's very much a concern

02:34:40.400 but yet all of these good things are happening around him to the point where he's

02:34:45.120 completely oblivious he's self-obsficating the very thing he needs in order to pull himself out

02:34:52.080 and then the question then becomes does he want to be pulled out does he want does he is he living

02:34:58.320 off of that doom is it's the same with a lot of like you know universalist heathens and their

02:35:04.240 rejection of christianity is pretty much all that defines them of the religious structure and

02:35:09.440 and they don't really believe in the gods they just believe in you know sticking it to the

02:35:14.560 christians or whatever but at a certain point you got to ask yourself are we doing that or is am i

02:35:21.840 yoking myself on purpose because that's as far as i can think that's as far as i can see

02:35:27.760 and if you're living in that shadow in that darkness you need to get out of it you need

02:35:33.360 to break out of it you need to take a look around you and see what's going on and i think a lot of

02:35:37.920 people get scared that there's a possibility that we are doing things that are good and

02:35:45.360 they it paralyzes them it makes it they'll find an excuse to get out i don't like the the fact

02:35:51.200 that you make us wear a tie i'm out of here and that's really just a false front to the fear of

02:36:00.560 commitment towards uh you know a real religion a real a real folk a real community

02:36:07.280 and i've seen it so many times and i'm it sometimes it sucks because a lot of people

02:36:12.880 you would never suspect and you really like they end up doing that or what have you and but we

02:36:17.760 continue on because sometimes our people are scared of success and um for those of us that

02:36:26.240 don't suffer that it can be really hard to get our heads around the closest thing i can liken it to

02:36:32.640 is I think we've all known women who are in abusive relationships.

02:36:41.280 They're always in an abusive relationship. No matter how much you want to help them get out of 1.00

02:36:47.280 it, they always go back to it because they don't know how to be in a relationship that's healthy.

02:36:56.160 it's more comfortable being in a situation that's very bad but that you're familiar with

02:37:04.320 than to challenge yourself in a situation that's way outside your norm and that you don't know

02:37:11.920 what to expect from and i think our people unfortunately part of the soul sickness we

02:37:17.680 talk about they are conditioned to loss and to irrelevancy and the thought of succeeding

02:37:28.480 or not being the bad guy is scary for them to embrace and trust in because what if you get let

02:37:37.760 down what if you completely alter everything you do and then it doesn't work out and i think that

02:37:45.280 that has hobbled so many of our people. And I am trying to do everything I can. We're trying

02:37:54.040 to do everything we can to help people break free of that, embrace the 10th noble virtue of victory

02:38:00.680 and get on the team and help us move forward. We want to do it with you. You got a bunch of hands

02:38:06.620 here willing to hold yours and help you be successful. We want the best for our fault.

02:38:12.280 that's what we're here for um so we've got a bunch more questions and we will get to all

02:38:21.400 these questions promise you that but it's fine can you tell us about our last room

02:38:29.480 a room that goes by two names we were we were going on and so i i actually got

02:38:37.960 i got sidetracked if you will uh yeah and worth pointing out so this um i'm sure somebody would

02:38:48.520 disagree with me but i i think that this rune predominantly goes by algis uh algis but the

02:38:57.720 other one is el has and el has is a reconstruction of the word for for elk for an elk and again this

02:39:08.360 rune is um it causes a little bit more confusion because it's not in the younger futhark by

02:39:16.520 meaning and by name but that this symbol was transferred over to another rune that is in the

02:39:23.320 elder futhark that was brought over so again the younger futhark has its validity but there's a

02:39:29.800 lot of this carving down that that you can see and this kind of almost like purposeful um

02:39:38.440 construction of it with its what intent i don't know but with intent um so algies or el has um

02:39:49.960 is the the the stylization of of this rune is often seen again in the old norse it's the man

02:39:59.080 rune so mother or manas and it's of course a man holding hands up um in relation this is often seen

02:40:08.840 as the elk or the horns of the elk or the the uh elk standing with its with its uh uh rack being

02:40:16.600 lifted to the uh sky and that has a lot of iconography the the white stag the um

02:40:23.880 the uh the d the uh the heart the rhine heart if you will um and and it is worth noting that the

02:40:31.000 word deer in english uh became a common thing it used it used to be deor and deor meant any wild

02:40:37.800 beast um and uh it was heart or hay art that was uh an actual deer but elk still stands in almost

02:40:47.640 every germanic language um and so uh you know i i do like elhas but algies is good as well and

02:40:56.920 what does it mean in some we we talk about the pictographic nature of it but the meaning of it

02:41:03.800 overall has deep connections to two things divine connection or the establishment of of the divine

02:41:15.720 to humanity to the folk the divine and us reaching up to them and then again reaching

02:41:22.920 down to us um and then there's also protection a huge amount of this so this is a again i would say

02:41:30.600 another interaction rune but with a heavy focus on the upward observe observation of of the divine

02:41:41.240 uh the upward and heavenly realm the understanding of the heavenly realm and and its its place it is

02:41:49.000 the um the expansion of the top of the central axis if you will and that expansion that so a lot

02:41:56.840 of people take it as um reaching up to the divine but i also take it as the divinity is spreading

02:42:03.880 out from there it's the arcing of the upper world uh it it's attainment towards greatness and in the

02:42:10.760 epoch of all of this i would say this would this rune really does symbolize our highest and most

02:42:16.280 connective time to the gods which i can't place dates on whether or not whether we're talking

02:42:22.120 about from the home dale all the way to the to the late nordic period that could easily be this

02:42:30.280 kind of symbolized in these you know these epochs of time but i would definitely say that this is

02:42:34.920 the higher arcing connection to the gods and we as folk being truly united and connected together

02:42:43.720 um symbolizing in this room this root has a lot about opening up your consciousness opening up

02:42:50.680 your mind and your your body to be receptive receptive to the gods and i think there was a

02:42:56.280 time where it was just natural for our folk to be in that state and a lot of times when we try to

02:43:02.360 get back to that now a lot of people can't wrap their heads around it whether it's you know

02:43:07.560 modernism or whether it's latent uh monotheism or or just the fact that they like to be like

02:43:14.760 like to call themselves Hedens, but don't really negotiate an understanding of having the gods

02:43:21.580 in their lives truly is. But this rune is a spiritual rune about connection to the upper

02:43:27.320 and about protection and being blessed by the divine, being blessed with our connection,

02:43:35.840 being in synchronistic um devotion to the gods fulfilling our obligation to the gods

02:43:44.680 and creating that union between us that a lot of people again just have a hard time getting

02:43:50.560 their head around it's it's uh well if i give the gods this they're gonna give me that it doesn't

02:43:55.060 no it's not like that at all it's it's really about our mortal state and our understanding of

02:44:01.000 the world and our connection to the divine state. And that we know that the gods want us to

02:44:09.140 bridge that connection. And it's upon us. They certainly can help and they certainly have

02:44:16.020 had that ability to, but it's more about the effort upwards. And that involves a lot of bumps

02:44:25.420 and bruises a lot of in you know inner reflection and a lot of scraping uh you know by and and uh

02:44:33.340 the bouts of of ignorance versus you know moments of understanding that all that journey is

02:44:40.620 encompassed in this rune the rune of divine journey and of protection um the creating of sacred space

02:44:55.420 So, and I'm wondering at what point in modern Ausatru this was adopted, but our fundamental

02:45:10.840 worship stance in Ausatru is the Algis stance. It's man standing, looking up with arms raised

02:45:23.060 out. In my little picture frame, it doesn't do it, but I'm doing it right now in my seat.

02:45:28.600 You guys can't see it. The idea of, thank you, Nick. The idea of doing standing with your arms

02:45:37.640 raised in the algae's position is fundamentally what our founder, Steve McNallan, has always

02:45:46.540 done or I've always seen him do when he's proclaiming and addressing to divinity and

02:45:54.600 looking upwards and reaching upwards towards the divine.

02:45:59.120 This symbol of man reaching upwards towards the divine is a fundamental in our faith and in our

02:46:11.860 quest to connect with our gods and in that sense this is a very very powerful room um

02:46:23.540 it being symbolizes a rune of protection the idea of the of the elk with the protective antlers

02:46:30.580 is absolutely legitimate funny thing and i don't know if this in a lot of european

02:46:36.260 languages but i got an argument with the swedes when i was in sweden

02:46:39.380 their word for elk and moose is the same word which is strange to me

02:46:47.140 it's the same in icelandic too it's the same they're really different i mean if an elk is

02:46:52.100 different than a deer then a moose is certainly different than an elk but it's the same word

02:46:57.620 over there to uh those those crazy scandinavians so i don't know what to say about that

02:47:03.620 um just thought i'd throw it in there nick you've got some rune poems for us

02:47:12.260 there we go the

02:47:16.740 eol sage is mostly to be found in the marsh it grows in the water uh and makes a ghastly wound

02:47:26.340 covered with blood every warrior who touches it

02:47:28.980 so this is interesting because no one knows exactly what the uh first off aol is is um

02:47:41.340 figured to mean elk sedge so now we're we're clearly talking about a briar or a bramble

02:47:49.420 and it may have been that the anglo-saxons equated the briar or bramble to be equivalent

02:47:56.220 towards an elk antler. So like a goring of the twigs that catches you and pokes at you.

02:48:03.780 But no one can quite agree on what that actually is because the usage of the title elk sedge

02:48:11.180 seems to have fallen out. And so a lot of that is interesting, but the idea of it protecting the

02:48:19.960 water is I think the key part there. And I think that the usage of the word and reasoning was

02:48:25.980 uh that the the briar and the bramble uh was akin to like a cluster of antlers or horns

02:48:35.280 kind of uh intertwined making a kind of a barrier and if you tried to climb over it or get through

02:48:42.480 it it would just tear out your clothes and scrape you and so there's a huge kind of uh agreement

02:48:48.760 that that's where it's going but there's not 100 confirmation on it because again the usage of the

02:48:54.660 were uh kind of went away after um latin and french became far more prevalent in the usage

02:49:01.140 of like fauna and things of that um uh anglo-saxon was relegated as a you know a lesser language so

02:49:10.900 that that lost its meaning or at least where it was applied all right um

02:49:20.660 next

02:49:24.660 nope

02:49:26.780 yeah oh okay so

02:49:29.720 yeah when we talk about the other

02:49:32.280 rune poems

02:49:32.920 I'm first I'm

02:49:38.260 intrigued I'm intrigued that

02:49:40.120 Nick anticipated this

02:49:41.860 yes

02:49:42.640 we were kind of talking about it before the

02:49:45.880 before the airing of the show

02:49:48.040 we were talking about because we were trying to get

02:49:50.000 mother and

02:49:52.060 else edge or our

02:49:53.780 algies or elhas kind of situated because again these three ruins are the ruins where it all goes

02:49:59.940 haywire so that's funny what we were doing i get it now but the fact that he had a special graphic

02:50:07.060 for it that's awesome um yeah bravo no they oh well done well done yeah there's no no all right

02:50:20.260 so interesting this is this runic shape and the meaning overtakes a different rune um somewhat

02:50:32.020 but this runic shape is used um three other ways to my knowledge this is the man rune

02:50:44.020 or it's also the okay four other ways it's the man rune it's also the life

02:50:52.340 this is a rune that we use on our tombstones to bracket in life and death this rune faced

02:51:01.060 upwards as it's typically faced meaning life and this rune faced downwards with the

02:51:07.380 uh antler pieces to the ground symbolizing roots and death um this is also

02:51:21.220 in the northumbrian runes or the grail runes this is calc which is supposed to symbolize

02:51:30.420 the chalice or the cup which is really odd just

02:51:37.140 iconographically it's odd it seems like if it was faced upward it would make more sense

02:51:42.180 as being like the stem to a chalice um but yeah there's that i think that um

02:51:50.980 um you know in the Arminen system I I would defer to the root to this being a variant of manas as

02:52:01.720 the man rune but it I think this is why there's some confusion because you see the same actual

02:52:08.560 staff have different meanings in different systems so that's a point of interest that's

02:52:15.760 the you can see the idea of life and death with the reaching upwards towards the gods going back

02:52:22.240 to our first rune of tonight or the reaching downwards towards towards the ancestors and

02:52:28.800 towards the dead um and even in the uh old nor or the norwegian rune poem they make mention of the

02:52:36.560 shape in relation to an eagle claw but it is still the the mother rune or the rune of man um

02:52:46.480 uh again these three rooms are the reason why things start going the elder futhark there's the

02:52:51.760 flipping of the of perthro and ewaz and then there's the usage of the symbols elsewhere in

02:52:57.760 the younger it starts to get really wild at this point when you start looking at all of them together

02:53:04.880 absolutely so i think takeaways from this it's a rune of protection um

02:53:15.760 Um, so this is an interesting rune to me personally, um, as far as, uh, as far as the stag

02:53:35.080 or the elk goes in things. Um, I'm wondering if you're going to talk about that.

02:53:42.140 Well, yeah, it's really, um, so as far as filgia or animal spirit or messenger from within and beyond, um,

02:54:09.140 this is something that's come to me at a number of different times um

02:54:16.560 i was

02:54:20.060 trying to make the best way to phrase this on on the youtube um

02:54:27.700 spiritual journey yeah i was i was engaged in a in a spiritual journey um

02:54:39.140 And I had this very, very clear to this day, clear vision of a stag's head on was like light brown on a field of dark brown.

02:55:09.140 like it was shades of brown of the stag's head on the field um but at the tips of the the the antler

02:55:18.740 um spikes there were were jewels and they were kind of like you'd see the shades of of different

02:55:27.780 topazes it's traditional topaz there was blue topaz there was like an orange topaz and a green

02:55:36.260 um on the on the tips of these antlers in this uh spiritual journey that i was on um

02:55:47.780 and that's stuck with me as kind of an interesting interesting note um

02:55:55.540 i was going through

02:55:59.380 so a couple years back i was going through a uh

02:56:03.300 hard time in the AFA. One of our, you know, person who I had considered a very close friend,

02:56:10.400 who was a member of the Witten. He was a priest of the AFA. He decided to forsake the AFA,

02:56:21.860 go do his own thing, take his kindred with him, and basically abandoned us as soon as we had

02:56:29.600 gotten Baldur's off. And it was a particularly personal blow because I considered this person

02:56:37.900 a close friend of mine. And when they finally quit and defected, or I say defected, but when

02:56:45.240 they finally quit and went a different way, they did so by mail because they knew I could talk

02:56:55.200 them out of it when we had an actual conversation. So it hit me really hard. And I went down,

02:57:04.440 went down to Carson City to a cigar bar and, you know, had a couple beverages and smoked a cigar

02:57:18.200 and tried to get my mind right on it. And it was a special time for a number of different reasons.

02:57:25.200 But. So I'd gotten a call from Brandy, actually, Brandy Callahan, Witten Brandy Callahan, good friend of mine.

02:57:37.560 Amazing, amazing woman. I'm very, very used to whenever there's crises within the AFA.

02:57:45.080 And I mentioned all the soul sickness that affects us. People get scared of success.

02:57:49.060 and when they get too close to something a lot of people a lot of people bail out it's something

02:57:55.140 we've gotten used to we move forward in spite of it but it's still something that happens and

02:58:00.100 there's no way to do this do this job without putting your heart into it without without

02:58:07.060 really caring a lot so i take a lot of these things very personally but i'm used to immediately

02:58:13.860 having to jump in and fix everything for everybody and so i was getting ready to do that and i'm like

02:58:22.420 all right i got all these things to fix and i'm in the you know i'm in the heat of of the stress of it

02:58:27.940 and i walk outside to answer brandy's call as i walk outside i see a uh

02:58:36.340 a stag you know full of big antlers and everything crossing the middle of downtown

02:58:42.580 crossing the street and it was so strange it was such a strange place for this to happen that i

02:58:51.460 took a lot of strength from it and i took a lot of meaning from it and at that moment brandy talked

02:58:56.180 to me on the on the phone and she had it all figured out she's like all right i've contacted

02:59:01.860 these people we've got this plan going forward we've got this on the hof we've got this team in

02:59:06.340 place i got you boss what do you need and that was the first time that's happened on anything and it

02:59:13.620 means the world to me to this day and it just speaks volumes of of her as a as a woman as a

02:59:22.180 githya as just a person she's amazing but it was really important stags have appeared in very

02:59:31.220 important parts of my life i mentioned the confusion between elk and moose but i also had

02:59:38.100 a really interesting encounter um when i got my first moose after uh after winter finding after

02:59:44.420 an uhler blow i don't know if i i'm sure i've told this on the broadcast before but in case

02:59:49.940 i haven't real quick on the story it was i believe 2009 it was during swine flu um

02:59:59.700 Um, I'd gone on my first moose hunt and it was, was right after a friend of mine and I had just

03:00:06.600 done our very first Uler bloat at winter finding. And this was my first big moose hunt. And when I

03:00:14.500 got out there, I discovered I was sick with swine flu, had a massive fever. I was, I was out of it.

03:00:21.840 It was, it was rough. I was having a hard time. And so there was much more experienced hunters

03:00:26.940 with me and anyways we were uh up in the in the middle of nowhere in alaska in this river valley

03:00:33.420 looking up and spotting with a scope game coming down through these valleys out of the mountains

03:00:40.460 we'd spotted a moose this was the last day of the season and it was the sun was just about to go

03:00:47.420 down and you couldn't hunt by artificial lights this was our last chance we saw this moose up

03:00:52.220 there and the old timer saw it and reckoned that its antler spread was legal enough it had to be

03:00:59.100 a certain number of inches between of the spread of the antlers for it to be legal in that game

03:01:05.020 management area it was amazing this old timer side note was completely amazing he could watch

03:01:11.180 through a spotting scope miles away and be able to tell me if you know how big this antler spread

03:01:18.780 was. And he was spot on. So anyways, we all went and we took our places and they put me at this

03:01:24.940 completely unlikely spot. They're like, Hey, sit here, try not to die. We're going to go try to

03:01:30.260 get this moose. Um, here's some Kleenex, good luck to you. So I was at this spot and, um,

03:01:37.980 I was looking up the hill, expecting this moose to come down. And, you know, I was waiting again,

03:01:46.660 I'm not a seasoned hunter at this point, certainly not for big game.

03:01:54.120 I'm out of my mind, delirious with the swine flu.

03:01:58.360 I'm feverish.

03:01:59.660 I'm, you know, I'm all stripped down.

03:02:01.040 This is sometime in very, very late September and I'm, you know, in a t-shirt out there

03:02:08.620 and it's cold and I, but I'm overheating with my fever and I'm out of it.

03:02:13.720 I'm looking up the hill, and I don't hear any, and I hear these grunts, and I look up the hill,

03:02:18.840 and I don't see any grunts, and all right, whatever, and I hear grunts again, so I'm looking

03:02:25.080 around, and hear grunts a third time, and a moose comes crashing out of the woods, downhill from me,

03:02:35.420 maybe 20 yards maybe 15 yards

03:02:43.220 and it grunts again and looks at me and it's the moose it's the moose it's a bull with the antlers

03:02:53.080 right like a need it looks at me for a second it stands there and then it broadsides to me

03:02:59.100 And it just waits. And I get my wits about me and I pick up my grandfather's rifle and.

03:03:08.120 And I got my first moose that day and it was not to my amazing skills as a hunter, that's for sure.

03:03:17.760 And it was it's profound to me to this day. And I have the rack down downstairs in my in my house.

03:03:23.660 and i i believe very much that was a gift from uller but that's you know my associations with

03:03:31.340 stags and elks as the europeans would call them um that's what i got on that but we've got a

03:03:40.700 bunch of questions stacked up and first we have another hearts of iron mod question but it's for

03:03:48.780 fifteen dollars and i promise that i'll put those to the front of the line and and i am and i and i

03:03:53.420 will over on entropy appreciate you guys um question being hey guys would you ever be up to live stream

03:04:06.380 as the afa in the ice cold mod that would be super cool to watch um that would be super cool to do

03:04:15.260 but honestly i wouldn't want to cheapen what we're doing because it's very serious

03:04:23.580 and i think that'd be fun that that'd be really exciting to be part of a heart of an iron mod

03:04:29.100 that's cool but this that we're doing here is very very serious and we take it really serious

03:04:35.660 and i wouldn't want to trivialize it in that way if that makes sense i appreciate the question i

03:04:40.540 appreciate the donation but in my position as officer i wouldn't do that

03:04:48.860 um i'm super interested to find out what this yeah i'm fascinated it sounds awesome what if

03:04:55.340 this is a somebody working for them this is the plug now i'm like i don't know it sounds great

03:05:01.100 and they are they are certainly paying their way and i genuinely thank you guys very much for that

03:05:07.900 i appreciate it um this next question is odd and i hope that you've read this because i have not

03:05:15.340 have you read star od's dream

03:05:21.500 do you think that the it was all a dream aspect was an excuse the author was using to record

03:05:29.740 more authentic aspects of northern folklore i have this is the first i've ever heard of it i

03:05:35.900 have absolutely no familiarity unfortunately so i have anything to add to it spawn are you familiar

03:05:41.740 with this at all no i'm not i'm wondering uh is this a uh norwegian folklore book or a book about

03:05:50.860 folklore in in scandinavia very post-christianity uh i'm not 100 sure on it i i i mean i would

03:05:59.660 um again the validity of the uh of said dream if you will uh and its purpose i'm not 100 sure on

03:06:09.660 so i can't say however i do uh you know it's happened before but we we know uh the the uh

03:06:19.100 snorri stood listens um desire to keep the the the church off his back by you know connecting the

03:06:27.580 the essier to the to troy and that and and you hemorizing the gods was clearly i think a a a

03:06:37.260 ploy to to keep um the old ways can come out but in a safe way so that no one can really like uh

03:06:47.260 clap back on them um so i wouldn't i wouldn't uh put it past anyone i mean it's been done before so

03:06:55.500 according to wikipedia

03:06:59.100 steer steer new out uh ada drama is a thoughter which recounts the dream vision of audi helgeson

03:07:14.620 a 12th century icelandic farmer and astronomer is considered to be a literary tour de force

03:07:22.380 and altogether unique in the saga corpus because of its saga within a dream narrative

03:07:29.420 the saga records that oddy's dream dreams that a guest arrives at his home and starts telling

03:07:37.340 a legendary saga set in gottland during the course of the dream oddy steps into this saga

03:07:46.220 and becomes one of his characters i'm very intrigued now and i i would very much like to

03:07:52.860 read this after the after the broadcast but unfortunately i really don't have anything to

03:07:57.660 add to it right now but thank you for bringing that to our attention because something i'd like

03:08:01.740 to like to look into is this also the uh i'm to clarify the of the filca that come the the nine

03:08:11.900 maidens on dressed in white the nine maidens dressed in black i'm wondering if this is the

03:08:17.500 same one i again there's so much out there that you know just off the top of my head especially

03:08:22.700 when in relation to the sagas it's very hard for me to like even kind of differentiate sometimes

03:08:29.900 uh events or situations happening in certain sagas to other sagas um

03:08:36.860 but definitely that uh being in the sagas themselves

03:08:42.380 by the time that the sagas were really even uh a lot of them were being

03:08:48.700 formulized late after and had been passed down verbally for many many years um i think the

03:08:56.300 threat of the dream most likely is not the case because um the uh the the church influence versus

03:09:05.660 the saga being its own story that's verbally passed down while christianity is is you know

03:09:11.740 prevalent in iceland it most likely wasn't the case the fact that it even got written down is

03:09:18.140 kind of like more leaning to the idea that it was accepted and just understood um so maybe if

03:09:26.300 it ended up becoming a vehicle of acceptance.

03:09:29.840 Is that, oh, it's just a dream, but most likely,

03:09:33.760 again, it was probably being told and talked about.

03:09:36.080 I mean, this is the same with like the story

03:09:37.800 of like Oliver Rydros and his dealing with the hoodl folk

03:09:44.460 and being chased by the queen of the hoodl folk

03:09:47.020 and things like that.

03:09:47.860 These stories were passed down long before they were written.

03:09:51.700 And it was kind of seen as just an accepted thing

03:09:55.680 to write, once they were written down, because they were so already ingrained in the culture

03:10:02.140 that most likely the fear of retribution of it probably wasn't even there by the time

03:10:07.360 it was written down.

03:10:12.240 Sorry, I was just catching up.

03:10:13.680 We got a lot going on over in the chat.

03:10:15.620 So I was seeing what was going down over yonder.

03:10:24.600 Cool.

03:10:25.080 All right. Our next question, Matt and Svan. I came across an article titled The Viking God Odin, A Queer God of War.

03:10:33.980 It's about this person or this person named Brit Soli, who argues that, quote, Odin was queer based on the fact that he was a master of seether magic, unquote.

03:10:50.640 So, Britt Sully also believes the Vikings were diverse in culture and in views of gender, and that the view of the Viking era has an undeserved conservative and nationalistic imprint. I'd like to hear your response to these claims.

03:11:06.520 These are the blasphemous rantings of a very confused, deeply mentally ill person who is seeking to justify their mental illness with some kind of historical basis. 0.92

03:11:23.520 All of that is completely and totally absurd, not to mention offensive. 0.84

03:11:29.520 mention offensive um it is amazing how mentally deranged persons want to project their mental 0.50

03:11:39.200 illness on the viking age when it is very obvious that that's unacceptable and absurd

03:11:47.440 um i think that one thing the adage that misery loves company is very true i think that when

03:12:00.700 people are mentally unwell and they are very unhappy because there is something broken inside

03:12:08.200 of them if they don't want to reflect within and fix that which is broken they seek to validate

03:12:17.080 validated through the outside. But the trouble is external validation won't fill internal holes

03:12:26.220 that you have. So if something internally is very broken, your first level is to force it to be okay.

03:12:34.560 All right, it's okay. And then you're all right for a little bit. But then when you try to go

03:12:40.480 to sleep at night, you realize it's not, it's still broken. Well, no, not only is it okay,

03:12:46.520 all the rest of you guys have to celebrate it and pretend that it's awesome cool we'll throw

03:12:52.760 you a parade we'll pretend it's the greatest thing ever you're wonderful then when they're alone

03:12:58.420 they're still broken and they're still miserable and so now we but in in viking times the vikings

03:13:07.640 used to be all messed up in the head like me trouble is when they're left alone in their quiet

03:13:18.360 hours they're still very badly broken and that hole doesn't get filled so you doesn't matter

03:13:27.000 what you try to destroy or devour you'll never fill that hole until you confront what's actually

03:13:34.280 wrong and fix it. But because you're mentally ill and you're suffering because of that illness, 0.99

03:13:43.480 please don't implicate one of our gods in your degeneracy. That's unacceptable. 0.99

03:13:52.520 Yeah, it's completely absurd and I don't really know how to dissect the arguments because they're 0.94

03:13:58.880 dumb i can try to dissect the uh very damaged person who's making them but the arguments 0.95

03:14:06.960 themselves are just silly swan do you have thoughts on this yeah i've seen this happen 0.99

03:14:12.960 in numerous ways not just with like uh the um the desire or or the wanting to validate 0.98

03:14:19.920 again aberrant lifestyle into some sort of divine equalization again that's a problem in and of

03:14:31.840 itself and on all levels whether whatever it might be subject-wise um first and foremost the

03:14:39.020 the uh the claim of the mastery of say that um i think from a story standpoint it's first worth

03:14:46.400 noting that i think it was it was mainly presented that odin was always seeking knowledge

03:14:51.680 and so but and that his knowledge and understanding of say that in relation to uh freya uh may have

03:14:59.680 been just lightly touched on the idea that there were there was like a a cross um understanding

03:15:06.960 of these magical forms but again that's if we're humorizing the gods as being like wizard and and

03:15:13.360 witch and they you know uh share their spell book um before their long rest or whatever so like

03:15:21.760 that's when you start to get into this kind of ridiculousness on top of that i've seen it done

03:15:26.160 in multiple other ways where they you know proclaim that odin was really immortal and uh

03:15:31.600 you know just convinced um everyone somehow that um he was a god or that he was a semitic god i've

03:15:39.920 I've heard people say that it was a Semitic intrusion into the Aryan mythos, and it just goes on and on and on and on.

03:15:48.300 But with very glaringly obvious answers there in front of us, I think that people, again, they forsake the obvious to find that little nugget that will help them kind of validate,

03:16:04.940 as I was here ago, they said their, their entire, uh, like theory of, uh, and synopsis. Um,

03:16:12.400 you know, when, when it's worth noting that during the altercation between, um, Thor and

03:16:19.400 Haurbarth, uh, that the accusation of see their practice is clearly an insult, especially in

03:16:27.400 relation to the way it was done culturally. So that's obvious and clear. Um, so the idea of

03:16:34.920 you know going out and and doing that was levied as an insult possibly an insult without

03:16:42.040 understanding of of what it is so it's like i heard you did this thing and rumor has it that 0.90

03:16:47.160 in order to do this thing you got to be you know a degenerate weirdo and so there's the insult

03:16:52.760 what do you got to say to that and so that's that's really just the flat premise of it is is

03:16:58.000 um but it's read into and then it's speculated and then it's theorized and then it's twisted

03:17:04.000 in its turn and it's validated. And now all of you guys are wrong and I'm right. And it's like,

03:17:09.680 ah, it's that inchworm argument that goes over and over and over, but you have to really hurdle

03:17:15.540 the obvious. It was the same that was done. Um, I remember a long time ago, there was this

03:17:21.880 speculation of, uh, well, it was kind of in lieu of the, the, the Odinic cults or the Odinic cults

03:17:29.280 having these the uh the the wolf or the the hound men of you know young men in the in between the

03:17:37.360 ages of like 13 and 25 because again life expectancy wasn't as long then and you were you were an adult

03:17:43.280 much faster in those days and the idea was you didn't own land and you weren't part of an army

03:17:48.160 so you went out and you lived on the edges of things and that's kind of got a strong theorization

03:17:55.520 to it that these kind of the wild men um going out under the edges and raiding and and pillaging or

03:18:02.640 fighting other groups other tribes and testing your your metal and then coming back and saying

03:18:08.480 you know i i've been living out there in the wild i've i've fought i've i've gained a small

03:18:14.560 motive of what i could carry with me i'm worthy of being in the army and then they bring you into

03:18:19.200 the army and then you get land and you you get married and then you settle down and you further

03:18:25.200 your folk and you know then your sons will go out and be thrust out into the edges in the wilds

03:18:32.080 that's a pretty sound theory but somewhere someone along the way turned that into oh well 0.96

03:18:38.240 they're actually like roving bands of homosexuals out there that's what they're doing and and and it

03:18:44.800 came really because of an insult from a greek a greek and he wasn't even talking about these

03:18:50.560 specific bands of of young uh like men that were kind of thrown out to like test their metal against

03:18:57.520 surrounding tribes he was just talking about the people in general the germanic people he hated

03:19:02.560 them he didn't like them he didn't like their presence they were moving in and encroaching

03:19:06.720 into the into the uh empire and uh they were starting to join the ranks of the military uh

03:19:12.400 the they were you know the fodrati and um he's saying well you can't bring these people in here

03:19:18.400 they're complete savages and uh it's they kill their elderly and they um have unnatural relations

03:19:25.200 with with men and animals and all of that stuff these were insults clearly leveled for political

03:19:31.600 usage and there is some misinterpretations of like the senicide and understanding you know

03:19:37.600 migration period senicide was often done in relation to you know constantly moving once

03:19:43.600 you got to a certain age you know and then there was also the the clear connection to the idea that

03:19:49.040 a lot of the older folk especially the men folk didn't want to die of old age they wanted to be

03:19:53.440 slain they wanted to be stabbed and that still holds true even all the way back to the the uh

03:20:01.280 the ingotol or the inkling saga in which snorri writes about how he euhemorizes the gods and he

03:20:08.880 talks about how ovin is dying as the king of sweden and he wants njord to stab him with a

03:20:16.400 spear so he can see his god and that's clearly he's talking about you know cultural traditions

03:20:23.760 that they were that was being written by snorri in in the 12th century with relations back to those

03:20:30.640 hearkening to those ancient times all the way back to the migration period even with cigarette

03:20:35.120 and atli and all of that still holding a lot of that stuff but to take one simple thing and and

03:20:41.920 then utilize it without mentioning that well it was an insult and it was probably leveled

03:20:47.840 by a person who had no idea what the heck was going on uh but it was still an insult nonetheless

03:20:53.200 so they really made it stick and um it was perceived as an insult but what if it wasn't

03:20:58.480 an insult what if it was a glimpse into this uh the queerness of the gods and it sounds like the

03:21:06.560 ranting of a madman if you if you say it out loud connecting point a to point b but they throw in

03:21:16.000 this to possibility and then they run with it and it's it's again like i said i've heard it with

03:21:22.400 with uh again odin to being attacked i want to throw in i want to throw in a uh

03:21:31.200 i don't know a note cliff a footnote here um

03:21:39.280 one of

03:21:39.840 oftentimes when people say completely ridiculous things they were cooked up in their head in the 0.94

03:21:57.600 hellacious storm that is their mind and their their solitude 0.90

03:22:06.320 and you can convince yourself of lots of things

03:22:09.840 this goes back to the ruined pear throat when you utter them into existence

03:22:17.140 they're exposed for how absurd they are on the face of it and that's one of the things

03:22:26.680 one of the biggest skills that so first

03:22:31.760 The most commonly exercised function of a gothi, in my experience, isn't ritual interaction with the gods, but it's counseling of the folk.

03:22:45.600 One of the most successful tools that I've learned of or made use of as a go-fi is letting people say things out loud and hear themselves say them.

03:23:08.880 Or to say things out loud and then have it repeated back to them so they can hear what they've said.

03:23:15.600 that is a surprisingly powerful tool that I think we all can make use of because very often the

03:23:24.680 things that make sense in our heads, when we've filled them with our own illness, our own prejudices,

03:23:33.560 our own whatever of our own things that we've put into it, when we say it out loud for others to

03:23:41.700 hear and we hear it ourselves reflected back at us it's plain on the face of it how absurd

03:23:49.700 and desperate it is and that's what this is

03:23:58.020 our next question could someone tell me what it means on some of the days of remembrance when it

03:24:04.340 says was observed on a day earlier but it has a duration of days already what does that mean

03:24:12.900 to the best of my understanding what okay days of remembrance

03:24:20.740 are are one day and i don't believe that they're on the calendar anywhere as more than that or as

03:24:28.020 observed on a different day but holidays some of our holy tides are and that's so that people can

03:24:36.260 synchronize when they're practicing ritual with when the rest of us are versus when they are

03:24:43.220 if we lived in a in a world where everyone everyone practiced house the truth then we

03:24:49.620 would have those days off like the days that it says you know here's the day and then here's when

03:24:54.900 it's observed on it all be the day and we'd have that off and that would just work for everyone

03:25:01.460 logistically unfortunately that's not the case so when you see it as the date is for example

03:25:10.820 winter finding coming up it is on friday but observed on last saturday the reason for that

03:25:22.340 is we pick a day on a weekend when people can actually show up and and celebrate and to

03:25:32.820 synchronize that function to where it logistically works for everybody to get together

03:25:37.620 we try to keep that on the calendar and this is fairly objective but it's what we've chosen

03:25:43.540 or subjective i guess but it's what we've chosen is the third saturday of every month

03:25:48.340 that so our food pantries and our things are all observed on time same time every month and it's

03:25:55.240 also because our Hoffs dry in people from a really big distance once we get to where we have

03:26:02.620 Hoffs in every town and you know we can do stuff there all the time as it is now people have to

03:26:08.960 kind of coordinate when they can get there with them and their families so we've synchronized

03:26:14.680 when we celebrate some of these things based on that. I've mentioned before, when I was in Alaska,

03:26:21.700 we were really big on celebrating every one of the holy tides exactly when it happened.

03:26:27.080 So if it's, you know, three in the morning in the middle of a blizzard, we'll go out and celebrate

03:26:32.080 the solstice or the equinox if that's when it happens. It's harder to arrange if we want to

03:26:38.320 get all our folk to come together and bring their families to have a celebration. So it's on the

03:26:44.060 calendar so you could celebrate with the rest of the folk on one of those days and then on the

03:26:51.440 actual day celebrate with you and your family if that's something that you can work out that you

03:26:56.080 can do. But that was done for convenience so people know when our Hoffs are typically doing

03:27:02.960 our celebrations and then they can you know figure out what they would like to do with the actual

03:27:08.660 date because the date is very important specifically with the equinoxes and solstices and things of

03:27:14.680 that nature. Next question, as a follow-up, can you touch on the misconception that pre-Christian

03:27:24.840 Europe was a racially diverse homosexual orgy having gender-bending degenerate state 0.97

03:27:35.300 and that traditionalism didn't exist until christianity arrived and destroyed their 1.00

03:27:41.340 homosexual utopia unfortunately this is how brit solely and similar minds think

03:27:47.880 yeah that's not true and absurd um inconsistency arcs i

03:28:00.320 you due to the absurdity of the question you have you have pointed out how that proposition

03:28:11.040 by those kind of folks is absolutely ridiculous um tradition traditionalism exists has existed

03:28:20.880 will exist it is the natural flow of our folk the woke crowd that want to dramatically rebel 1.00

03:28:29.280 against anything traditional anything wholesome is again a symptom of their mental illness that

03:28:39.280 they're projecting on the rest of us to our detriment it sounds hilarious hopefully our

03:28:47.520 descendants that read about it can have a good laugh those of us living through it and seeing

03:28:53.200 it and the damage that it causes to folks it's really sad um i say that we still laugh our way

03:29:00.480 through it just as ragnar laughed during his death song because that's what you do and that's kind of

03:29:07.040 all all we can do with it to avoid crying is have a good chuckle at it and press on but uh yeah

03:29:16.000 that's absolutely absurd it's obviously absurd it's absurd times three if i had a better word

03:29:25.280 than absurd i would use it a bigger one a stronger one um but yeah that's absolutely preposterous

03:29:34.240 in all possible ways uh were that the case we would all not be here because that particular

03:29:43.680 sexual activity does not produce offspring and we're we're all here as a testament to how

03:29:50.400 not homosexual our ancient ancestors were it's i i would like to to please one thing too here

03:29:59.200 um these are what i call disconnected bridge arguments a perfect example of this and this

03:30:05.120 is not related but it will well relate in a second so it's like the whole um all police

03:30:11.680 are racist but only the police should have guns these are two arguments with a desired effect at

03:30:18.080 the other end of the bridge but the very inconsistency of the both of them especially

03:30:24.160 when they're paralleled meets only in the middle and kind of crumbles off and so they don't really

03:30:29.040 kind of connect to what they're trying to get at by crossing that gap this is the same thing

03:30:36.400 you know it i think they're doing it just as a sense of time and conditioning because if you

03:30:42.760 look you scrape past and you look at oh well oh the megalith builders and the people of early

03:30:50.200 europe worshipped a matron uh goddess and uh then these you know evil white male uh

03:31:00.140 airy oh no let's not call them that let's call them uh proto-indo oh no let's not call them that

03:31:05.780 let's call them Yamnaya they just all these different names they come in and they just

03:31:11.700 destroy this matriarchal basket weaving macromane kumbaya European stone builders that are all just

03:31:20.060 trying to live their life man and and then these chariot riders come in with their white supremacy

03:31:27.040 but now you so you have that bridge and then now they're saying oh no no no no no see it was the

03:31:34.080 christians that came in with their chariots and their and their traditionalism and before that

03:31:40.240 it was all just big orgy of um paganism and some christians even buy in on that too which is even

03:31:48.480 funnier but um again so these are two argument bridges that they don't so if these guys were

03:31:56.080 evil arian chariot rioting war mongering yam nyan uh you know giga chads from the from the steps of

03:32:04.240 russia and they come in crushing a bunch of these hacky sack european you know stone jenga builders 0.92

03:32:11.840 uh they're they're evil but then they they shift the window again and say oh no no they weren't

03:32:18.080 it was actually like christianity was based and that was traditionalism and that's what really

03:32:23.760 ruined uh you know basically the end goal whatever their end goal is is what they're projecting on

03:32:30.080 into the past so it's like no no the christians came in and ruined the thing we would really hope

03:32:35.200 our ancestors were into because we're into it now like that's that's really what is what's going on

03:32:40.960 so these are two bridged arguments that if they don't they can't apply to each other were they

03:32:47.520 evil marauding uh patriarchal arians on chariots crushing people or no they were totally down with

03:32:56.080 everything that these people want to do and it was the christian so just keeps the overton

03:33:01.440 window keeps shifting they keep applying it and when you look at the two arguments together

03:33:05.600 they're just bridges built halfway and they're just hoping that it sticks that that you don't

03:33:13.440 further that bridge to realize it ends midway you just take them for their word and then they

03:33:19.040 succeed come full circle when will we colonize the stars stop doing this

03:33:30.160 when our people stop doing this when we stop having to reevaluate who can use what bathroom

03:33:38.320 and we we try to reinterpret what our genitals truly mean um when we get past this nonsense

03:33:50.120 that's when we're gonna have good things like that happen on a wide scale in the meantime we're

03:33:56.760 having awesome things happen on our scale you guys are a part of it uh next question matt and

03:34:03.960 fawn what are your thoughts on comics and is it okay for people to enjoy them as australia

03:34:09.640 considering marvel has depicted some of our gods in silly cartoony ways

03:34:15.960 sure um i don't know comics are awesome if you like comics or i don't know they were

03:34:24.200 25 years ago when i read comics i don't know um

03:34:28.040 you're adult people that are able to consume entertainment by your discretion

03:34:38.860 if there is a particular aspect of entertainment that is intentionally disrespectful or blasphemous

03:34:47.380 to our gods then yeah you should reject that and stay away from that that said i don't think

03:34:53.540 at least at its origins, the comics were intended to disparage gods that any of those people

03:35:00.520 actually believed are real. And I say that, I don't think it was an intentional attack upon

03:35:08.260 the AFA and Ossetruar that in the 60s, Stan Lee decided to make a comic book about Thor.

03:35:17.560 I think that at that time, and for most of us, shoot, when I found Ossetruar,

03:35:23.540 I didn't know it was a thing. I thought there was Christianity and Judaism and Islam and some Indians somewhere did Hinduism, but I didn't know what it was.

03:35:34.340 So that was that was my understanding of religion at the time.

03:35:38.740 I'm sure that in the 1960s, Stan Lee did not think that there are actually people who practice our ancestral faith with seriousness or the Greek pantheon.

03:35:51.460 for that matter. They have Hercules and other elements of Greek mythos. They've done that with

03:36:00.040 a lot of things that I think they're unaware that other people took seriously. And I think that's

03:36:07.080 fair enough. It is what it is. I don't take as great offense as some people do to it because

03:36:18.240 i think some people who've encountered it recently see it as another weapon of the left

03:36:25.200 used against us or whatever doom pill that wasn't the case when this originally happened way back

03:36:33.200 when and i think that's us backfilling modern disney versions of marvel productions and trying

03:36:43.920 to root that back to some arch villainy from stan lee back in the 60s and i i really think that

03:36:51.280 that's that's kind of an overreach um but if you don't like them because you think they're

03:36:57.280 dumb and you don't like how they depict our gods and cool don't don't uh i think comics are getting

03:37:03.120 kind of expensive too and there's all these interconnecting little arcs and you spend a 0.98

03:37:07.040 fortune on trying to track all that down so you're probably well served not doing that

03:37:12.400 But if you're somebody who really likes your comics, I don't think you're a bad Alcetruar or you're going to be dissolved by venom on the Strand or anything.

03:37:23.900 What are your thoughts, Svon?

03:37:26.680 Multiple hits on this one.

03:37:29.020 But first, you know, I like to draw.

03:37:33.540 I'm an artist in my respects towards certain non-secular sense I'm talking about.

03:37:41.680 I think my murals for the Hoffs are strictly devotional acts, but it stems from my secular drawing and my dabbling in tattooing and, you know, calligraphy and all of those things can compound together.

03:37:59.940 And growing up, I was surrounded, especially in the 80s, by a ton of visual arts that took in the place of comic books.

03:38:10.740 And I was so young, I didn't really like key in on a lot of their kind of hidden agenda stories.

03:38:16.660 A lot of them were coming out in the 80s like that.

03:38:20.780 But to say that I'm not influenced by them would be a lie.

03:38:25.840 and i think if anybody's out there saying like they're terrible or degenerate or what have you

03:38:31.920 i mean they have an argument based off of like the writers especially and some of this again

03:38:36.240 the agendas that they're pushing um and you can actually see comics nowadays evolving with the

03:38:43.760 intention of counter signaling things like they uh the the punisher skull that was very common in

03:38:49.920 the marine corps very common amongst police and now just recently that marvel comics changed that

03:38:56.320 imagery on him with the intention of kind of like poking at the eye of what they perceive to be these

03:39:04.480 you know oogie boogie evil white males uh celebrating uh gun violence despite the reality

03:39:12.000 of gun violence and statistics in our country but i digress um you know when we talk about 0.51

03:39:19.280 the gods as well it's it's first it's really worth noting if anybody knows anything about hercules

03:39:25.680 uh and his stories and the versions of his stories because there were multiple versions

03:39:30.560 depending on where the stories were coming from in greece he was the hero to talk about

03:39:38.880 and then there was ulysses so it's like hero worship in the in relation to legend myth or just

03:39:47.200 pure entertainment and enjoyment of the story has been with us for a very long time and i think that

03:39:53.600 um the uh the phenomena of um comics slash ones in particularly in relation to

03:40:03.680 say superhero stuff is it comes from somewhere it's not rooted out of a vacuum and in doing so

03:40:11.200 it's it's it is you know i can see why they did it they didn't want to um address non-heroic aspects

03:40:20.880 of the current religion that was prevalent in america so they went back to you know the the

03:40:27.760 the gods and the heroes of ancient days and bring them into the comic stories and and and have them

03:40:33.600 you know tussling around with some of their own creations that they had made um you know there's

03:40:40.480 interesting ideas behind all of that i'm a huge fan of the shadow uh i listened to orson wells

03:40:49.120 um and his radio version of the shadow uh one of the first american superheroes and

03:40:55.120 then nostalgia and the history behind um the creation of that and the radio show um i i

03:41:02.320 legitimately listen to it at work because i have a playlist that has them all there and i when i'm

03:41:07.520 i'm cleaning or doing something i'll just throw one of those on because they're like 15 to 20

03:41:12.100 minutes long and i know i can sneak one in before another client and you know i like the nostalgia

03:41:17.720 of it i like the kind of the art that they did even though it's you know rudimentary and that

03:41:23.040 of course turned into comics for the newspaper whether it's the phantom or the shadow or uh

03:41:29.600 flash gordon and again a lot of people nowadays have they're problematic characters to them now

03:41:37.180 but um you know again it's it's uh i think it's redundant to to go on that and i think there's

03:41:43.580 another key point uh in some of the imageries especially in relation to thor one of the things

03:41:51.180 that really got me was i wanted to create imageries of thor with dynamicism with with action with

03:42:00.220 deed with with heroicism involved i would rather our children be in the backyard running around

03:42:06.700 saying they're smashing jotuns like thor and they just get into that that mode rather than say

03:42:12.940 marvel thor so i mean i clearly have uh kind of a general disdain for for that um and i i have

03:42:22.140 sought to replicate that in um like looking at ancient paintings of thor or not ancient

03:42:28.620 paintings excuse me old paintings or renaissance paintings and depictions of thor maybe even of

03:42:33.820 the romantic period and combining that with almost a comic book-esque uh action and culminating that

03:42:41.340 together with the desire of making our kids excited about thor and about his adventures and

03:42:47.020 about his uh you know going out and just you know crushing the jotens laying it down to them i mean

03:42:54.860 it's the same reason why people you know follow wrestling and things like that it's it's a fun

03:42:58.780 escape into um uh celebrating heroism celebrating uh things that people call toxic now or whatever

03:43:08.460 uh i have um i own a comic that's kind of controversial which is um the alt hero uh

03:43:16.620 comic book that was written by um vox day and it's specifically like from a uh kind of uh

03:43:25.900 right alt-right uh perspective of these heroes fighting another group of heroes that are like

03:43:33.100 clearly like the red shift is kind of like the global marxist there's like the rainbow dazzler

03:43:38.620 who's clearly kind of a an infeminate weirdo dude and uh then there's like the eu guy who's

03:43:45.580 like captain eu and they're you know fighting these these guys are actually the bad guys and

03:43:50.940 the good guys are trying to fight for like you know anonymity on the internet freedom of speech

03:43:55.660 and the ability to you know say that french people are like ethnically look away you know

03:44:01.340 like oh such such uh much controversy um so if you're ever interested too i would i would i'll

03:44:08.220 plug that um a really interesting comic book to look into is alt hero uh written by vox day you

03:44:14.780 can find it on amazon it's pretty pretty funny it's not the best art but just the fact that it's

03:44:19.740 kind of like you don't see this like reverse eye poking in the other direction and of course all

03:44:25.900 the left just lost their mind there was high pitch dolphins screaming in their their uh philosophy

03:44:35.420 sphere of um whatever they're at and it was just kind of fun to to say to have it exist um but

03:44:43.180 outside of that i think that it gets dangerous when people get into hero worship like you have

03:44:48.620 people that like know marvel movies more than they would know you know it almost becomes kind of

03:44:56.140 pseudo-religious to them in a lot of ways that's a little disturbing i've only seen it occasionally

03:45:01.100 or you know they know more about the details of star wars than they would about you know religious

03:45:07.660 uh things like especially uh alice true or even if they're christians and they seem to

03:45:13.500 that's a little odd to me but i don't have anything against it i think art is interesting

03:45:18.220 it's just about how we use it you know and how and understanding again those those histories

03:45:24.460 why kal-el of superman is named kal-el is because the creators of superman were jewish and the l at

03:45:31.900 the end of kal-el is to show that he's lesser than yahweh because it would be uh an insult in their

03:45:39.180 kind of religious views because they were semi-practicing judaics and so they they did that

03:45:45.420 that's like stuff like that like knowing that's one thing um but you can find and understand

03:45:51.980 alternatives even uh people talking about like the watchmen and their their whole thing about

03:45:57.740 how really superheroes in america uh all boiled down to the hooded clansmen of of the south

03:46:04.620 like he he kind of played on that theory which i don't think is the case at all but he was trying

03:46:11.740 and it ended up backfiring because the one right-wing character of his story arc became the

03:46:17.900 most popular rorschach became a kind of a beacon of like the sanity amongst all the crazy so he

03:46:24.780 had to kill that character in the following like tv shows or something like that and make him a

03:46:30.540 an insane you know hollywood kind of had to do a number on it they just got to pick through

03:46:35.740 all that detritus but art is good all right gentlemen are you aware that founder mcnalen

03:46:43.980 and gethia mcnalen will be in montana this weekend at freyers harvest feast

03:46:48.300 tickets are on sale and it should be an epic event come join us thanks

03:46:54.780 Yes, I was aware of that.

03:46:56.260 I mentioned that at the top of the program.

03:46:58.780 But yeah, you guys should go to that.

03:47:02.200 Definitely.

03:47:02.800 It's going to be awesome.

03:47:04.300 As I mentioned, it's at a member's homestead in Montana.

03:47:08.140 It's a great opportunity to meet the founder of the Alcetru Folk Assembly,

03:47:13.120 as well as the father of modern Alcetru generally,

03:47:18.320 and his wife, Githya Sheila McNallan,

03:47:21.180 that has done so much to build this that we have um she was very much the driving force

03:47:32.700 in a lot of the heavy lifting that came with knitting together the community that is the

03:47:38.540 australia folk assembly and she did that she was the leading force doing that for

03:47:51.020 i

03:47:54.700 say about 18 years or so she's still doing it now and she's doing an amazing job she's running

03:48:01.980 things at odenshoff and in the odenshoff district but relatively unassisted she was weaving this

03:48:10.220 all together so much through her own blood sweat and tears for you know almost in the entirety of

03:48:18.460 the first 20 years of the afa um so getting to meet both of them is an amazing opportunity and

03:48:25.580 you should take you should you should do that there's any way for you to get there you should

03:48:30.860 absolutely nobody goes to these things and then regrets going everyone what i have heard in the

03:48:38.940 inverse is people that don't go kick themselves wishing that they did so do give that an

03:48:45.020 opportunity if you can um all the way back to our societal collapse question instead of collapsing

03:48:55.820 do you think america could instead split up and balkanize

03:49:00.140 where each people get some part of the country to themselves

03:49:06.460 anything's possible i don't and i think that's one of the big things

03:49:14.380 everyone has moved and does move and is so very very mobile in the united states

03:49:21.260 certainly amongst the white folks in the united states i don't think you have the same

03:49:29.660 entrenched regionality that you did even a generation ago i think that the most

03:49:39.180 politically conservative areas of the country are you know like 53 percent conservative and 47

03:49:49.980 percent liberal and i think that the most liberal parts of the country are probably 53 percent

03:49:56.620 liberal and 47 conservative i think you have such a mixture of backgrounds and of cultural touchstones

03:50:06.300 and things we've been balkanized but not geographically so you don't have any areas

03:50:16.700 that have a commonality every area is divided amongst themselves so i think it's much harder for

03:50:24.140 a geographical balkanization to occur now than it at even a generation ago what are your thoughts

03:50:33.020 uh yeah this is uh this is a great and kind of a reoccurring question that a lot of people ponder

03:50:39.500 about and i i don't know i i kind of uh hold the same sentiments with you is um is that you know

03:50:48.540 people aren't so interconnected to like you know i'm a virginian or perhaps maybe in texas but

03:50:55.340 texas is getting you know people are coming from california they're coming from from washington

03:51:00.620 they're coming from new york they're coming all over and mexico and they're clearly starting to

03:51:06.700 affect things um and i think that's what's kind of going on the other thing that's worth noting is

03:51:14.140 as the the desire i think for people to want to make things more global and the the nefarious i

03:51:21.260 would even say to a degree to make things more global to get rid of the constitution because

03:51:25.420 it was made by white slave owners and and to make a a federation of the north americas or

03:51:32.620 or whatever i you know or you know revamp things rechange things those people um if we're talking

03:51:40.860 about ethnic groups let's just say all across the board uh want to balkanize those people

03:51:46.700 would utilize the balkanization as a way to funnel their aggressions i think that

03:51:53.500 there would be a plea that like hey all these people are trying to tear the nation apart

03:51:57.900 and their evil whatever or whatever they mudsling at them and they would pull in the desire of

03:52:05.660 outside forces like um during covid and all of that i was i had made mention long before covid

03:52:12.660 um i made mention about the idea that if there was ever a time in which the u.s government was

03:52:19.460 going to try to pull the u.n in to like re-stabilize the united states um they would do it first with

03:52:27.500 canadians and the australians and everyone was like ah the canadians the australians i've seen

03:52:33.100 the canadians in action in iraq and they were pretty scary dudes and um then then covet came

03:52:39.340 around and saw a lot of what was going on in australia and canada and i was like see

03:52:44.860 they got a linguistic connection to us they would immediately be called and they're they're already

03:52:50.060 shifted down that road of seeing the the global government um and they look at america's like oh

03:52:57.980 they're backwards they're just you know built on this white supremacy and all that stuff and

03:53:05.500 and so you could kind of see so i think vulcanization would also um do a tactic that

03:53:14.300 they might even desire is the ideas of having every every duck in a row that they want or don't

03:53:20.700 want condensed it's not always the best and i know from my experience in foreign countries

03:53:27.260 when you have an opposition that is not galvanized but instead you know you can't differentiate

03:53:36.060 anyone from anyone it's it's a lot harder so that's something worth considering but that's

03:53:40.780 just the novel idea i'm not saying that's something that we should do in one way or the other

03:53:46.220 but i think that having spiritual communities is a long-standing american tradition you know the

03:53:51.660 mormons or um you know the appellation uh baptists or uh and some of we can go into some super strange

03:54:00.140 groups or whatever but the freedom of religion in the united states allows people to work together

03:54:08.460 based off their commonality of religion uh jews do this in new york the in is islam you know

03:54:15.180 especially up in the midwest especially in uh certain cities like in um uh you know like in

03:54:20.060 detroit or um what have you the the freedom of religion allows us to at least correlate with our

03:54:27.740 folk without really the only type of mudslinging we get again is from you know political underlings

03:54:36.940 and media kind of uh uh tentacles as they kind of fling mud and shoot things at us but for the most

03:54:45.420 part we're allowed to practice our faith and correlate with each other with little to no

03:54:52.780 problem and then on top of that i think what really threw them off is that we do interact

03:54:57.580 with our communities in a peaceful way and in a good way and in a charitable way and they did

03:55:03.260 not see that coming again because all the mudslinging they believe but we are uh allowed

03:55:10.460 to balkanize to a certain degree through our faith and our ability but we just should be careful not

03:55:17.580 to uh you know compound up or turn into some sort of like cult-like-esque thing and i think that

03:55:26.700 when people throw those accusations at us it's not because it's true it's because that might

03:55:31.420 be what they want they want us to act that way they want us to be that way so that it it gives

03:55:36.780 them more of an ability to get us all in a row and and and throw the bowling ball or lob the shot

03:55:43.740 and i don't think that that's i think we should we should do what's wise and what's being done right

03:55:49.660 now uh as i was here ago that kind of leads us towards building our hofs and building our our

03:55:55.740 cultural centers um and then building those communities and networking and making sure

03:56:01.740 that we're taking care of each other and still being good neighbors to christians

03:56:08.140 um to you know other people out there that are over whatever you know their desires are

03:56:14.140 or whatever they're doing and ultimately we can have our voice and maybe even present it a lot

03:56:20.380 more legitimately and soundly um as we have you know we find we meet people um you know that are

03:56:29.660 you know black or asian and they have come across you know modes of communication to us saying hey

03:56:36.460 i love what you guys are doing i think this is great you guys are you know doing your own thing

03:56:40.700 and a lot of support surprisingly coming from these people it kind of blew me away um

03:56:47.100 Um, you know, I think that's the path that we should be focusing on before we go down into the

03:56:53.920 idea of, you know, uh, like, what is it that I, I can't remember. There was a group of like black,

03:57:00.700 uh, supremacists who were, um, who, or black nationalists, maybe that were like, oh, we want

03:57:07.860 Texas. Like they were, or they want the South or something like that. They were pushing towards

03:57:12.660 balkanization and pretty much everybody kind of was like that they just laughed at him um but

03:57:17.780 they were doing it too and um i don't think it you know amounts to much all right how do you guys

03:57:26.520 feel about survive the jive spawn how do you feel about survive the jive i i i uh listen and and uh

03:57:35.980 watch videos and follow him on twitter um interesting lots of good takes um i think that

03:57:46.620 uh one of the things i i really wish he would do is acknowledge i think just the the american and

03:57:54.300 and the the afa and all of our groundwork that the founder of house true you know steve mcnalen

03:58:01.340 and all the way up into now with al-sheragodi and all of these temples there's so much headway that

03:58:08.060 we have we have expanded on and built and he's still kind of focusing a little bit on just the

03:58:15.580 the historical origins and i understand that's where his his um his uh expertise is and so he's

03:58:22.940 kind of moving in that direction i would say it would be good for him to also acknowledge again

03:58:29.020 the modern movements of these religions that he's kind of acting like aren't fully established with

03:58:35.820 temples and and people all over the world and things like that but he's you know he's focusing

03:58:41.180 a lot too i think on england and um all of that so i don't really have uh you know like a a bad

03:58:49.980 view of uh rousal and and survive the jive and i think it's interesting we had some some discussion

03:58:56.460 on um and i don't know how he feels about me he's never or or the afa or anything it's been quite

03:59:01.900 quiet about it um but you know it's you know our exchange of the the usage of certain words

03:59:10.620 and certain understandings about uh whether we use the word proto-european or arian or what have you

03:59:17.900 and we've had disagreements on that but not in a sense where it's like argumentative it was just

03:59:23.180 kind of like points um and i think that you know he's it's it's a shame what happened to

03:59:31.020 him where his government kind of landlocked him i thought i i don't know if people are aware of that

03:59:35.500 but he got landlocked in england and that kind of again shows the terrible like level that england's

03:59:41.660 at right now and then of course just recently he posted something about the bbc saying that england

03:59:46.220 had a from a previous question that was asked here he was like england has always been black

03:59:51.260 and europe has always been black and and you know he kind of called that out and said that this is

03:59:57.180 ridiculous and i i agree with him so i don't really have you know i i follow i i inter interact when 0.92

04:00:04.860 i can or when i when i'm able to and uh yeah and that's my take on him um yeah i've actually got

04:00:16.300 to meet him at a northwest forum i want to say like five years ago or so um nice enough guy

04:00:27.260 in person i don't and i want to specify this up front i don't dislike thomas rousel as a person

04:00:40.700 um again my real life interaction with him was very nice

04:00:49.260 he knows about the afa he knows that we exist he knows the history of the afa

04:00:58.700 for that matter in his own country he knows the history of the odinic right um

04:01:04.380 Um, he, there's, he does not seem to acknowledge real, authentic, existing,

04:01:22.600 ausitrue practice in the world. His lack of acknowledgement of it goes beyond just ignoring

04:01:30.940 it to like a willful pretending it doesn't exist and that's 0.55

04:01:40.540 on one level silly on another level offensive um

04:01:52.380 he doesn't have to join the afa he doesn't have to agree with us or think we're doing everything 0.83

04:02:00.220 right but to have so much of his focus be uh what if scenario that already is and pretend that we

04:02:11.340 don't exist it's i don't know i think on one level a little bit dishonest um he is so focused on

04:02:25.420 well and here's the thing if he was just focused on how ancient englishmen or ancient anglo-saxons

04:02:33.180 practiced our faith that would be cool in and of itself the fact that he is constantly postulating

04:02:42.440 what a modern version of that might look like i don't know as if as if he doesn't know that

04:02:50.540 we're hearing that we exist, that we have four functioning temples to our gods. 0.98

04:02:59.320 Even to say, hey, those Americans are doing crazy stuff at AFA and they're silly. I mean, 0.99

04:03:04.240 even to come at us would be better than to pretend that we don't exist somehow,

04:03:10.000 which is really unfortunate. I think we would probably naturally align in a lot of ways

04:03:18.260 um but yeah his very conspicuous lack of acknowledgement of our existence is

04:03:30.860 it's a little bit insulting and I think it's not honest to his audience and that's kind of my

04:03:37.920 my take on him and I'll say this I don't listen to his stuff I used to and when it came

04:03:45.460 really conspicuous and kind of odd that he didn't, you know, he acted as if we didn't exist and I

04:03:53.000 stopped. Maybe he does now. And I don't know about it. That could be. Yeah, there was, there was the

04:03:59.400 Stonehenge, um, debacle. And I think one thing that was strangely said was in a, in a tweet that

04:04:05.720 it was, uh, stopped. Uh, it was a, it was a, uh, a pagan function. Um, I think he said, and please

04:04:13.720 don't like it's not word for word i'm just kind of going off my memory is something about like

04:04:17.400 american tourists or american traveling pagans when in reality it was englishmen they were

04:04:25.000 they're members of the afa and they were trying to hold a moot which you know could equate to

04:04:31.720 four or five members sharing a horn near stonehenge and it got blown up into this

04:04:38.120 terrible thing by a left-leaning pagan police officer and it it blew up into a whole thing

04:04:46.600 which still shows that perhaps even too in the uh in the uh the terrain he's in

04:04:53.960 facing off against these kind of vapid and slavering uh like left left or global or you know

04:05:01.800 whatever agenda pagans who are even in the police department or in government or whatever um there

04:05:09.160 but it wasn't american tourists they were members they were and they were trying to hold something

04:05:14.760 that we could easily do you know at a monument or in the shenandoah or up on a mountain and hail

04:05:21.080 olden and and hold the horn and they turned it into this whole kind of thing but that was

04:05:25.480 definitely misplaced it wasn't like an american uh tourist pig yeah he seems to jump in if there's

04:05:32.120 an issue that involves us but not really to acknowledge us or to talk about us but to kind of

04:05:43.640 use that opportunity to talk about his stuff um

04:05:47.480 um the thing that kind of irked me the most I think was his Pagan Futures conference that involved

04:06:01.700 like scholars when there's thriving like existing European pagan priests and clergy that do things

04:06:14.900 His deal was like talking heads and scholars and like a Christian biblical scholar, I think.

04:06:24.640 He had a panel there. He had an opportunity. It would have been great if he involved the

04:06:28.660 Astru Folk Assembly, even if he didn't want to. There's a number of Eastern Europeans that have

04:06:35.380 active practicing paganism in their countries. There's a lot of people that are actually doing

04:06:42.920 what he talks about how nice it would be if somebody would do but

04:06:52.040 i don't know in a way it's like al sharpton and jesse jackson their whole existence is based on

04:07:00.280 a perceived racism and so it doesn't matter if that gets fixed or whatever they have to

04:07:07.720 you know poke you and say hey let's do a racism to legitimize their existence

04:07:14.680 that's really unfortunate um if you're advocating for resurgent paganism that's happening it's

04:07:21.560 happening right now please you're welcome to come be a part of it we would love to have you be a

04:07:26.280 part of it or instead you can spend your whole existence talking about what if you know what if

04:07:36.040 it existed it just seems a little bit disingenuous he knows for a fact that it does exist and he

04:07:43.000 could be a meaningful part of it if he wanted to be um goes kind of into our next question

04:07:51.880 a little bit as a segue a hypothetical question from matt from what i can tell you firmly believe

04:08:00.360 the AFA is the only real Ausatru church, which is understandable considering most current Ausatru

04:08:10.760 communities are a joke. But let's imagine Ausatru were to be taken seriously by the mainstream,

04:08:18.040 and suddenly there are hundreds of Ausatru churches similar to how there are hundreds

04:08:23.880 of christian churches and not just one is this a change you would embrace do you think it would

04:08:31.720 advance ausa true or hurt ausa true if it wasn't all under the afa banner

04:08:42.120 that's not how the world works which i think is important to realize there's a process

04:08:53.880 when talking about the hundreds of christian churches

04:09:01.680 for a very long time there was two for a very long time there was two christian churches

04:09:11.020 it's a relatively recent phenomenon where they were split up and there was this whole process

04:09:18.600 of fracturing internally that I don't think was positive and I think led us a little bit to where

04:09:25.580 we are today with the development of Christianity or the anti-development of Christianity, as it

04:09:33.380 were, the breaking apart and the disillusion of Christianity. But to take your question at face

04:09:40.720 value, if magically I awoke tomorrow and all of a sudden Alistair was listed with all the other

04:09:47.920 mainstream religions and we had an house of true church popping up in every town and

04:09:52.720 they weren't AFA affiliated. That would be fantastic. I would love that.

04:10:04.540 My own ego will never ever come before the worship and exaltation of our gods.

04:10:15.560 And if all of a sudden tomorrow, lots of other organizations were magically just as successful as the AFA was doing their own thing, I'd be happy to work with them.

04:10:29.800 I would celebrate that our gods were being worshipped.

04:10:34.240 Now, if they were all grossly deviant and they were all universalist outfits that used our gods as scapegoats for their own mental illness and disrespect, no, that would be horribly detrimental to Alistair and I wouldn't support it.

04:10:52.020 But assuming that they were all, you know, generally folkish under the same basic, the same basic conception of our gods and they were all well intended.

04:11:06.140 If our gods are all of a sudden worshipped by millions of Americans or million, perhaps a billion people around the world, that's fantastic.

04:11:17.060 That is a mission of the Ausatru Folk Assembly. And if all of a sudden that happened overnight by some literally miraculous process, hail the gods, that would be amazing.

04:11:32.280 Do I think it would advance Ausatru or hurt Ausatru if it wasn't under the AFA banner?

04:11:39.640 Obviously, if these were all, you know, broadly speaking, rightly oriented groups, certainly a thousandfold advancement of the number of people practicing Ausatru openly and the media accepting it would be wonderful.

04:11:57.340 Of course, that would advance.

04:11:58.880 would that be much much better if all of a sudden that happened with a try horn slapped on all of

04:12:09.480 it yes it would be amazingly better but i'm not going to let perfect be the enemy of good if

04:12:15.240 if i could press a button and tomorrow also true be the dominant religion of white men in the world

04:12:21.940 but a lot of it not be asked to focus simply okay cool where where do i sign up um

04:12:28.320 Um, that's, that's something I've noticed about, um, our enemies versus us.

04:12:38.460 i would never allow the worship of our gods to be a casualty in a petty squabble for

04:12:53.060 i don't know control of the narrative or whatever you would define that as

04:13:00.420 i do think we're much stronger when we function together in united and i think that that's just

04:13:07.680 true. I think that all of these factions of Alcetru sprouting up tomorrow wouldn't happen

04:13:15.560 because it's taken the AFA, you know, 28 long years, almost 29 to get where we are of blood,

04:13:23.520 sweat and tears and very hard work. But if miraculously I woke up tomorrow and there was,

04:13:29.740 you know, a thousand other AFAs out there all under different leadership and different

04:13:37.320 uh banners doing also true and honoring our gods that would be amazing and i would

04:13:45.080 genuinely weep tears of joy and thankfulness for it um

04:13:51.080 yeah i i don't know how to give a more complete answer than that

04:13:57.960 i have a a little bit on just a comment to that too though i think a lot of people

04:14:04.060 that come into house the truth and they think about or just uh you know they they get out and

04:14:10.460 they they start to come to the realization about the multiplicity of the gods and divinity and all

04:14:15.460 that stuff they i've heard people conceptualize like man it's so great uh you know i wish that

04:14:20.700 it would be like all these denominations just like the christians but y'all get along whereas

04:14:26.860 and that's counterpointing to the idea that you know there's a lot of denominations in

04:14:30.800 christianity that don't get along uh and there's a lot of division there um but what i think that's

04:14:36.720 deeper talking about is that when there was like what you had mentioned the two that let's just

04:14:42.600 talk about the one the western the the catholic church when they were unified they stood a better

04:14:51.060 chance at doing and implementing what they wanted which was not particularly good for the for the

04:14:57.100 Saxons when Charlemagne um kind of led that charge but also the the glaring point of that

04:15:03.020 was that our people were divided our people were getting along but they were completely scatterable

04:15:08.960 because they were divided so that is one thing that really sticks out to me is um I don't think

04:15:16.980 it should be many small groups just getting along until someone can figure out a way to make us not

04:15:22.040 get along i think it's better for us to unite and so that it's much harder to make us divisible

04:15:28.960 because they clearly have the intention to not let us succeed not let us you know be uh what we are

04:15:39.020 and so it's in their best interest to again keep these groups small and and sure have them get

04:15:46.780 along until they're really really big and then we can just pit them against each other or something

04:15:51.380 of that nature so i think that my my take on that is the the denominational thing is

04:15:58.740 it sounds great and it sounds nice but the reality is is i think it would be better and far

04:16:04.660 more served if we were under the same banner and push forward with the gods unified it worked

04:16:10.740 against our people it can work for our people against those that are trying to keep us from

04:16:17.860 doing that doing anything so that's just worth noting in my opinion

04:16:28.100 all right question um and this this goes to the stonehenge deal question some marxists said they

04:16:36.580 stopped the afa from going to stonehenge uh vril the wanderer did a video saying that

04:16:43.140 was a declaration of war question is when is the afa going back so for folks that may not understand

04:16:55.620 there was no big massive afa push to somehow march on stonehenge or whatever

04:17:05.140 that's what they needed that's what they wanted whatever they think the case was

04:17:09.220 a local folk builder wanted to host a moot at the general area of Stonehenge.

04:17:21.580 His plan was never to host it inside the circle, as that requires some kind of a fee and a deal to do,

04:17:28.720 but he wanted for AFA members or other people interested who were in the UK to go

04:17:38.300 stand near within sight of the stones, raise a horn to honor our gods. That's all.

04:17:48.120 we got three members. As of the time this occurred, we had four members in England proper.

04:18:03.180 We maybe would have gotten our folk builder and one other guy to go out there with a horn of mead,

04:18:12.040 have a bloat or you know honor one of our gods take a sip of mead appreciate stonehenge and go

04:18:21.720 home that's all it was um fact of the matter is unfortunately fear won out literal terrorism

04:18:32.280 a member of the british police force who was a leftist pagan made a petition petitions don't

04:18:42.520 mean anything but to get a bunch of people to sign saying ew we don't like you go away

04:18:47.400 we don't like you you can't practice your faith in public

04:18:51.640 the mere for the mere attention of lots of people saying ew bad racist

04:19:01.160 caused that folk builder and two of his countrymen to quit and go hide and try to,

04:19:11.600 you know, run in fear from that level of opposition. If the fact that

04:19:20.680 the forces of chaos would shine a light and say, ooh, we don't like you and sign a petition

04:19:29.460 is enough for you to turn tail and to run and not stand for your gods, your folk, and your church.

04:19:37.040 It's a very, very easy victory for them. And a really sad statement about the level of courage

04:19:47.220 or lack thereof in a lot of our folk, unfortunately. The question is when we can go back, that's the

04:19:53.960 trouble. If it were my thing that I hosted as some kind of big AFA deal, there's a lot to follow

04:20:03.240 through with or whatever, but we don't have very many members in England, unfortunately. I'd love

04:20:08.260 to fix that. I'd love for us to have more there. Also, English travel restrictions are pretty

04:20:13.860 severe, so I'm not sure how that's sitting right now. But yeah, the idea was never for someone to

04:20:23.720 make a big scene or cause a big problem the idea was to host a moot at a really cool really special

04:20:34.920 ancient european pagan site which would be awesome

04:20:40.280 i think in a lot of ways you know we've had moots over here that have been advertised just as

04:20:44.600 publicly at at gettysburg or at any other you know national monument special site and

04:20:51.720 And we just happened to not have caught wind of the radical left and had crazy Marxists come at us with threats and screeching.

04:21:06.600 But the times that we have had crazy Marxists come at us with threats and screeching here in the country, we've stood strong.

04:21:14.280 I'm really disappointed that our folk builder, that was a folk builder for a very short amount of time over there, decided to quit and run from this.

04:21:26.280 That's really unfortunate. It's very, very disappointing.

04:21:30.560 Svon, do you have anything to add to that?

04:21:33.280 Yeah, I think this is worth noting.

04:21:34.780 it's always kind of their mo um when there is this the the the pots and pans that are beaten

04:21:44.220 are not based in reality at all they create the in their minds they need to create this

04:21:52.540 the big scary monster and get everyone concerned but the reality and and ultimately to their will

04:21:59.900 these are again these two bridges that that meet that go halfway the people that they're trying to

04:22:05.820 scare most of these leftists and marxists absolutely despise these people they they think

04:22:11.100 that the the the average you know middle class british or american person is you know just a 0.99

04:22:17.900 backwards vile racist uh beer slugging uh you know closet white supremacist but when it comes 0.96

04:22:26.860 uh that these people show up they beat these pots and pans get these people scared and they're doing 0.96

04:22:32.540 it ultimately to send a message across uh that they're gonna always make this really loud noise

04:22:39.740 but if you stand up and just show up and people see it's you know four people or a group of people

04:22:48.700 with their kids or um you know again like they don't want you to see like the charitable stuff

04:22:54.940 they don't want you to see all that because that stuff does not help with the ultimate point of

04:23:00.380 what they're trying to make and that is they're going they're always based outside of reality

04:23:06.220 the reality for them is that we're like you know super mechanized half tank um you know anime

04:23:13.660 nazis that you know have like machine gun arms and we're just we're trying to kill puppies and 0.97

04:23:20.460 little colored children um it's so ridiculous and it's happened it's happened so many times that i 0.99

04:23:28.940 can make light of it and kind of joke about it so i'm pulling away from the doom pill a bit 0.95

04:23:33.180 but in reality but the reality is quite different it's it's us um caretaking for graves it's us

04:23:39.740 handing out food to the community it's us um you know trying to restore old buildings and um you

04:23:46.300 know uh try to work with people whether it's locally or you know food banks and and all these

04:23:51.980 things a place a safe place for our kids to come and learn about the gods and you know they call

04:23:56.700 us a you know a tax haven or a political shroud or all of this stuff they have no idea what the

04:24:02.860 hell they're talking about and they don't really care because the point is to make the pots and

04:24:07.580 pans uh and and the reality that the the um that they have contrived a reality for others

04:24:15.580 despite what would be here's what's here's what's an uncomfortable truth it works

04:24:21.980 if all you got to do is make loud scary noises and share a post to a hundred other

04:24:27.900 crazy lefties that make loud noises and that's enough to make our people run and hide and disavow 0.73

04:24:35.420 and cool. I mean, it's unfortunate. It's really sad for our side, but it's effective. Why shouldn't 0.98

04:24:46.680 they? It's a very, very cost effective way of winning. And it's just a shame that some of our

04:24:54.160 people allow them such an easy victory and such an easy control over their lives. It's part of

04:25:03.820 that soul sickness we always talk about and the fix isn't to pretend you're courageous because

04:25:10.000 pretend keeps kicked out from under you really quick the fix is to realize that you're scared

04:25:17.900 and to work on ways of strengthening yourself and being more uncomfortable more comfortable

04:25:23.900 when you're scared so that you don't let fear control you there was no actual consequence or

04:25:32.560 actual threat in this scenario. The only thing was the attention and the screeching

04:25:40.560 of leftists. And that was enough to have people run for the hills, unfortunately.

04:25:48.400 And that's, I think, a cautionary tale. Hopefully, the rest of us can learn from that and not

04:25:55.680 act like that but i think that's all i got to to say about that i don't

04:26:07.120 i think this is a

04:26:11.440 important note to make and tacitus talked about this

04:26:16.720 he talked about how certain offenses were treated by germanic peoples and he said that

04:26:22.400 um treachery and shirking of duty was you know they had public executions and they wanted to

04:26:30.000 make an example and make a scene out of but um a feminacy slash homosexuality and cowardice

04:26:39.960 were just so shameful that they were were stomped and pressed into the bog so nobody had to look at 0.93

04:26:49.500 it because it was just an embarrassment. And so I don't want to spend a lot of time dwelling on

04:26:55.000 people that showed cowardice. I don't think that builds our folk. And I think it's just

04:27:00.620 kind of disgusting to spend time on. Okay. It is a question. I thought it was in the chat window.

04:27:15.220 i apologize um is it more common for apolitical pagans to join the afa or non-religious conservatives

04:27:23.940 to join the afa assuming the pagan becomes conservative and the conservative becomes pagan

04:27:32.580 more common than what i'd say i need to know what the uh counter you know the counterbalance is we

04:27:41.220 have i would say that people in the afa certainly tend to be more politically right-leaning and i

04:27:51.220 wouldn't that's not all about politics i think what's going on in the world is a much bigger

04:27:57.540 divide and it's an issue of worldview and it certainly affects politics but it's not just a

04:28:03.460 you know, Democrat or Republican kind of thing. It's traditionalism versus wokeness. And

04:28:14.540 it's a fundamental in this world today, certainly in the West. And it's basically

04:28:21.700 blown away any middle ground that used to exist. Because for woke folks, you never can possibly

04:28:31.340 be woke enough because they come up with some new craziness every single day that you you've

04:28:37.900 got to somehow beat them to embracing or else you're not quite woke enough um so people who

04:28:46.280 hold values that used to be very common to all of us like literally 10 15 years ago those people

04:28:55.180 are now because the woke people and again i'm doing all these hand things that are somehow

04:29:00.620 outside of the screen and I feel a little bit ridiculous when I realize that when the wokeness

04:29:05.940 has moved so far, there's no way to capture it, Nick. I appreciate you. My wingspan is beyond

04:29:12.420 my camera because it's so close. Anyways, the left has moved so very, very far left

04:29:19.740 than anybody remotely where i mean shoot

04:29:27.260 my mom would have been a middle of the road maybe sort of 1.00

04:29:34.860 yeah she would have been a moderate in the 90s um were she still with us now she'd be 0.93

04:29:44.380 a far extreme fascist nazi hater whatever because the left has moved so very far and polarized things

04:29:53.100 so i'd say traditional people um not even conservative per se but people that 0.98

04:30:00.620 don't want to mutilate their children's genitals um

04:30:06.620 not even joking that sounds funny i wish i was kidding i'm not 0.98

04:30:10.620 God. So, yeah, people who are traditionally minded, regular folks who have watched all of the

04:30:19.260 fundamental traditionalist elements of Christianity completely go by the wayside in a lot of churches

04:30:27.180 have re-examined their spirituality and chose to try to come to the Austro-Folk Assembly and

04:30:33.860 re-embrace the gods of their ancestors. I think that some pagans who, when they got involved,

04:30:44.060 there was a much broader spectrum of what was okay. When they've been completely pushed out,

04:30:49.680 if they're not 100% on board with the woke nonsense, have been forced to re-evaluate

04:30:56.640 things and found, hey, the AFA is doing some legitimate, authentic things, and they're not

04:31:01.860 hateful people, those people have joined as well. So I think we've seen both of those elements

04:31:07.460 come together in in AFA membership. How do you see it, Svon? I think that

04:31:16.320 there's a lot of a spectrum of it. There's some people who are very political, because again,

04:31:23.020 the biggest focus is that we believe that the Germanic people are an ethnic people,

04:31:27.880 And they have an ethnic religion, just like many other ethnic people all over the world.

04:31:32.820 And they have absolute right to be that ethnicity and honor the gods of their people.

04:31:40.540 And that, you know, you apply this to Native Americans and Africans and Asians of certain groups and totally fine.

04:31:48.820 They but you have these people that come in there, the kind of more they key in on the fact that we are ethnic or folk based.

04:31:56.580 and so they come in and they still have to learn about what religion and faith and divinity is do

04:32:04.820 they actually believe in the gods they don't even really know themselves and some of them stay and

04:32:10.100 learn others it's just they they thought it was just another way to express their political ideas

04:32:15.760 they end up usually leaving um i have had one incident where there was an apolitical member who

04:32:21.640 um came came in learned you know about the faith and then saw a a very again i was here ago that

04:32:30.440 uses the word woke and you might chuckle at it or think that's like a you know it's just a term

04:32:37.000 no it's real i've seen it where um there was like some drawings again kind of very comic booky so

04:32:43.960 maybe in this case clearly not good but they had you know uh uh the goddess sif with her head shaved

04:32:52.520 because of the story of low but she's wearing a hijab and tear has one arm or one hand missing

04:32:58.200 because he's um and he's uh not an ableist you know what i mean he's he's down for the handicapped

04:33:06.120 and um and then they had you know ovin wearing a shirt that says death to fascists and so clearly

04:33:12.120 they're just taking the gods and kind of you know force feeding like a goose for fatty liver

04:33:20.760 they're they're they're foie gras of leftism into the into this into the into the gods um

04:33:27.880 which is kind of just so blatantly kind of messed up that this apolitical member was like 0.67

04:33:36.040 this is yeah he kind of just snapped him out of it he was like this is ridiculous and then i mean

04:33:42.440 they were doing like uh they made one of the the gods uh or goddesses black and with dreads and all

04:33:49.560 this stuff and it's like we would never dream of doing this to um you know the yorubans or uh

04:33:57.640 maybe to the plains indians or to the five nations seneca and and uh mohic or i mean uh yeah mohican

04:34:04.840 and and groups of that you know like it would never be thought of in in correlations so for a

04:34:09.720 lot of folks i know it sounds so cliche having that kind of um uh reverse versus or balancing

04:34:18.440 scale thing but once they see it it's kind of like oh it really they realize the wokeness is a thing

04:34:25.400 the the the drive the intention the the pure kind of secularism of the of the usage of politics with

04:34:33.080 the gods is so blatant and uh it's only a matter of time before you know the vikings couldn't be

04:34:39.400 white they they had to be uh diverse and uh or were black at one point or you know and it starts 0.97

04:34:47.640 to kind of they kind of follow in the wake of some of the absurdity of of these black supremacists 0.95

04:34:52.760 that you know say black people invented everything and everyone was black and you know vikings were 0.98

04:34:57.800 black and samurai were black and every every the aztecs were black everybody's black and they're 0.94

04:35:02.040 just kind of like parroting the same thing and just in a not so crazy way that after a while people

04:35:07.960 just come to a realization that it's it is a thing it's a force out there and and we clearly as a as

04:35:13.960 a a denomination of you know people who are folk minded ethnic minded and think that we have that

04:35:21.480 right it just becomes an awakening moment for a lot of them who are perhaps apolitical i've seen it

04:35:28.520 um so that's kind of like the two sides you know people that aren't able to become religious and

04:35:33.960 they're strictly political and possibly even you know nihilistic in their views and some of them

04:35:42.040 not enough i wish they would wake up and kind of become more a lot of times they they just kind of

04:35:49.000 drift off i'll become an orthodox bro an orthodox christian for a while and then a catholic and

04:35:55.480 uh you know norse paganism because it's just all facades for their political activities

04:36:02.120 but there's a lot of apolitical folks who get woken up very very quickly with the realization

04:36:07.800 uh because of our stance being an ethnic faith it really really wakes them up

04:36:12.200 that's something that's always very very telling to me um

04:36:24.520 the readiness to use our gods as vehicles for political slogans um or you know very overtly

04:36:35.960 political messaging has always made me really really uncomfortable um

04:36:45.720 in a way it's literally my job to speak for the gods sometimes i am very very aware every time

04:36:59.160 I do. And I always have to check myself because it is a tremendous responsibility

04:37:09.320 not to put my own words or my own sentiments in the mouths of the gods. To do that would be

04:37:16.600 the epitome of sacrilegious um to use the gods for as political sloganing would be very wrong

04:37:32.200 and i i would never do that um there's issues that i think are big moral issues that i have

04:37:43.220 good reason to believe that our gods support in a broad way and i try to present that in that way

04:37:54.340 but for you know petty political sloganing you don't do that if you really believe in the gods

04:38:04.020 if they're just cool accoutrements to your political activity then what does it matter

04:38:15.160 if they're not real and they don't exist you know they're just characters you might as well slap

04:38:20.060 them on a t-shirt and do whatever you want to do but if you genuinely believe in our gods

04:38:28.880 you you would never do that um and it tells me that a lot the folks on the other team they don't

04:38:36.240 this isn't real to them it's fun and it's a

04:38:46.400 because it's a juxtaposition between the moralism of christianity and a somewhat gray area that you

04:38:55.360 can fill in with your own degeneracy they have co-opted our gods as symbolic of their own mental

04:39:02.160 illness but those people don't really believe in the gods and i think that's the truth that

04:39:09.840 people come to realize far too late sometimes um yeah i think it's like the inverse of comic book

04:39:21.520 miss yeah like the comic book folks are you know they don't believe in the gods but they want to

04:39:26.800 utilize them for heroic stories but it's really relatively benign in their drive the opposite is

04:39:34.080 that they create the gods in a comic book image to push their political agendas and and ideologies

04:39:40.720 and uh desires for or for what have you and in a way they're kind of on the same they're just

04:39:47.680 they're paralleled to each other just on different sides of a fulcrum point you know it's sad

04:39:57.680 um next question can you touch on the valhalla myth and how we can interpret it in a modern

04:40:04.640 context especially how it relates to modern warriors in the military also do women go to valhalla so

04:40:16.800 I challenge everybody to, instead of starting with the myth as you know it, start with common sense and logic from the root and expand from there.

04:40:37.800 the myth explains the truth of the all-father and who he invites to his hall and who he doesn't

04:40:50.840 odin is not bound to some guys writing down of a myth about stuff that he does

04:41:00.440 that person is trying to explain their understanding of what odin does

04:41:08.520 Odin is a sovereign of his hall and he can invite whoever he wants there.

04:41:17.400 That being said it's not for me to make hard lines of this dude died on the battlefield

04:41:26.600 but this guy had a you know whatever he died of so he can't go to Valhalla

04:41:32.920 but rando dude that went and fought in iraq for whatever reason and got blown up does

04:41:40.600 everyone who dies in battle who's one of our folk doesn't automatically go sit at the halls of the

04:41:48.060 all father just because you're not one of the very few white men who dies in battle in this day and

04:41:56.900 age, doesn't mean you are barred from the halls of the All-Father. Unless Othin wills it to be so,

04:42:06.580 and then that's certainly up to him. But we don't have any reason to believe that.

04:42:14.120 So the concept is, and we get really stuck in literalism of our myths, that's not how myths

04:42:23.680 work. That's how the Bible works post-Council of Nicaea. That's not how any other ethnic

04:42:35.080 religion's myth cycle works. There's no, and then Odin spake unto Snorri and he wrote infallible

04:42:45.680 words. No, but the words he wrote certainly inform our practice and they teach us a great

04:42:51.980 many things. They're invaluable, but they're not divinely perfect or divinely inspired in the sense

04:42:59.300 that they are a literal perfection. They're giving us a picture and an image in the age in which they

04:43:07.100 were written and in Scandinavia when every able-bodied man was expected during raid season

04:43:15.900 to be a warrior for a time it spoke to that truth what i believe the idea behind it is

04:43:26.060 is people who have overcome their limitations and who have ascended the way towards ascension

04:43:34.220 is quickened on the battlefield because instead of the slow circumstances of mundane existence

04:43:41.980 as a farmer as an it professional or whatever you are in the heat of battle life and death it's right

04:43:50.300 there the opportunity for heroism displays itself in the heat of battle especially hand-to-hand

04:44:00.140 combat in a way that it doesn't as readily in the rest of life um but i mean just think about that

04:44:10.620 if you were the greatest warrior ever and you engaged in countless hand-to-hand combat episodes

04:44:20.940 and you were always victorious over your foe you can't go to valhalla because you didn't die on

04:44:28.380 the battlefield because nobody was man enough to kill you like you really think that that's

04:44:33.580 a qualification the all-father would that that would make sense i don't think so um

04:44:46.300 we do ourselves a disservice to take those myths too literally to where we confine

04:44:52.620 them to that they're written at a certain time in a certain place

04:44:56.460 and they were using the imagery and the context of that time in that place

04:45:02.700 it's our challenge to extrapolate those things and apply them in the world we live in first

04:45:08.860 ultimately whether you make it to valhalla or not is the choice of the all father and to a lesser

04:45:15.260 degree one of his valkyria who go and make that bringing you there or not um

04:45:26.780 our own conception of it can limit us or enhance us to a different degree on how we conceptualize

04:45:38.360 it. But in the ultimate day, if Odin is the Lord of Valhalla, he can kick you out of his house or

04:45:45.000 he can invite you in if he wants. That said, it is a celebrated place of heroes. We have issues

04:45:53.620 in the lore of people who haven't died in battle it being mentioned them going and entering into

04:46:01.220 valhalla um the common understanding of it taking battlefield dead and not people who died a straw

04:46:10.020 death is an encouragement for people not to shirk and people to run into the face of danger as

04:46:15.780 opposed to run out away from it but the idea of ascension and overcoming can be achieved in many

04:46:22.260 different ways um fortunately you know or perhaps unfortunately depending on how you look at it

04:46:33.220 very a very small percentage of our men these days die on the battlefield

04:46:38.820 that's for a lot of reasons our conflicts are much more small scale and um

04:46:44.900 trying to think of words but it's not like you're marching a unit of infantry against another unit

04:46:57.060 of infantry and seeing last man standing it's much more it's much smaller scale so the fatalities

04:47:03.060 on of white men are far less than they were at one point body armor and things have advanced

04:47:09.980 tremendously to where we have people that would have been dead a generation ago that are fine

04:47:16.440 now because of their equipment. We've got a lot of different things, and those are all positive

04:47:20.680 things. The advancement of body armor isn't robbing our men of the opportunity to go to Valhalla.

04:47:28.180 Process these things to their full extent under the assumption that Odin is a real person.

04:47:34.540 If Odin is a real conscious entity, think with logic on what he would do.

04:47:44.980 People aren't out battling in large scale for tribe and for cause and for clan and nobility and honor sake and whatever.

04:47:56.480 very often people are there because it's a good way to make a paycheck and it's a it's a good

04:48:02.980 living and it offers you benefits that you wouldn't get normally and you have an opportunity

04:48:07.860 you wouldn't have the goals are geopolitical and very often not necessarily goals that help our

04:48:15.360 folk or don't it's not to dishonor anybody's service i don't mean to do that at all but

04:48:20.920 looking at it from the all-fathers perspective the only people you'd want in your hall are

04:48:25.420 are, you know, the people in the modern, multi-culti, rainbow coalition,

04:48:37.900 don't misgender me training military. That's the only people that are worthy to sit at your table.

04:48:45.260 I have a hard time rationalizing that that's the case, but again,

04:48:48.780 he's the all-father. He can choose who he wants.

04:48:50.780 I don't believe it is just the battlefield dead of our folk, because that would leave him very

04:49:00.120 poorly positioned for the stated purpose of amassing those warriors during Ragnarok.

04:49:07.440 He would not be surrounded by the best and the brightest, not in today's age.

04:49:14.000 So I think there's got to be much more than that. And I think that he takes the people who have

04:49:19.060 reached a state of ascension. You ascend when you become more than you are. And you can see that in

04:49:24.820 a battlefield context with any of our heroes that get, you know, medals of honor or things of that

04:49:31.480 nature. You have these guys that for a moment, they are more than the sum of their parts. They

04:49:37.680 are a force on the battlefield doing amazing and miraculous things because they have overcome fear.

04:49:46.520 they have overcome their humanity to become something more that is what i think the all

04:49:52.920 father looks for and i think that you can find that in different stages in life and in different

04:49:59.640 places i think it is much harder to come by and is much easier to see a clear example of

04:50:06.520 on the battlefield but if you do that and you come back and you win and you're oddie murphy

04:50:13.800 you don't think you could make it that's ridiculous and i can't i can't stand by it

04:50:19.960 what are your thoughts fun i i was in the military when i saw the whole uh usage of the of like the

04:50:27.400 phrase till valhalla um and i was probably the only ousted through person that like in my unit

04:50:36.360 that when that all of that was really being slung around one thing i really liked was it

04:50:43.160 it was clearly denoting that the the spirit and the power of the warrior uh does not coincide very

04:50:53.160 well with the um you know the uh christian kind of concepts of of uh you know like

04:51:04.120 death and and fighting and uh combat and all that stuff and i'm sure there's christians out there

04:51:08.840 like oh there's actually this and that whatever it does that's not the point there's clearly

04:51:13.560 uh issue with a lot of western men who are christian coming back from war thinking they're

04:51:18.280 completely broken and they're damned and their soul is blemished and they are not right you know

04:51:23.880 if you if you kill a man you're not uh if your hands are red you're not you fall from the grace

04:51:29.080 of god and all that stuff that's an issue and so the tilvahala thing was kind of like a resurgence

04:51:34.760 of that warrior coming back but there wasn't a lot of thought to it and i think it still kind of

04:51:42.520 causes a lot of confusion in people who are you know even well versed now it's a true or

04:51:48.600 are not and that is that the the prefix val valhalla or val hall um valkyrie um vowel father

04:52:03.800 it all kind of came into clear with me one of my families there my nieces or possibly even my uh

04:52:13.160 i guess daughter of a of a niece her name was valabjork and it meant the chosen birch tree

04:52:19.960 and suddenly hit me wait a minute it's there's there is the act of choosing as well as being

04:52:26.840 chosen and that there is a like a noun and a verb of that prefix and so the understanding

04:52:33.240 is is that the valkyrie carry the chosen the valkyrie chooses the chosen therefore the the

04:52:43.560 entirety of it and the reason why it was so important i think for warriors to really

04:52:47.800 want to appease the valkyrie to show him that they were ready to ascend in any way that they

04:52:54.360 they felt especially during battle was important because he had the power to choose but i don't

04:52:59.960 think it was entirely relegated to just those on the battlefield there were those who had stepped

04:53:05.160 on the battlefield numerous times and didn't you know didn't fall there were those who had stepped

04:53:11.160 on the battlefield or had risen to occasions that weren't even considered a battle it was just

04:53:17.960 a time in which someone stepped forward when they could have ran away there's a lot of different

04:53:23.960 things i think that correlate to the possibility of a preference that the vall father has but i

04:53:31.720 will not say that i know what that is it's the vall father's job it's his desire it's his

04:53:38.600 rules and parameters that create that and i think it's based off of that desire his choosing i will

04:53:46.120 say this much i'm a believer that ultimately the halls are the core of of the gods the halls reside

04:53:55.400 just as much as the gods reside in their halls the halls are actually also them and that when they

04:54:01.000 pull the might and they choose the ascendancy of these souls into their into their halls they're

04:54:07.080 bringing these the soul might into them and the purpose is for us to stand against the forces that

04:54:15.560 could completely disseminate all that is the order so the purpose the grander purpose is that

04:54:23.800 we must try to achieve a greatness within our soul and make ourselves worthy of being noted

04:54:31.080 so that if we are chosen and we come out of that that the of the cycle and are brought up it's

04:54:38.200 because we did it with our own volition and our own desire we made ourselves worthy of being noticed

04:54:45.560 And even if you do that, you still have to realize the Vowel Father has his say.

04:54:51.860 And he understands the mechanisms of everything from his hanging from the tree in heaven to his eye in the middle at Mimers Well and everything in between.

04:55:02.260 He knows all of those things coalescing.

04:55:05.160 So sometimes choosing you might not be in the plan.

04:55:08.800 And I'm not saying, oh, it's just trust the plan.

04:55:11.240 I'm not saying that at all.

04:55:12.040 just we we relent to the ideas that we make ourselves ready make ourselves more a strive

04:55:20.600 for that force and it may not be in a battlefield setting it may be in just a almost like a mundane

04:55:26.840 setting and suddenly you're in a place where you have the chance to rise above or fall behind and

04:55:33.560 and and run and you may choose the run and that that's not going to get you noticed

04:55:38.680 that's not gonna you have to rise above and so it may get you noticed for all the wrong reasons

04:55:45.320 for all the wrong reasons yes um but also too you know there is there is i think there's the

04:55:51.400 the concept too of warriors or or uh people of great soul um you know they don't always go on

04:55:58.520 the first run of their life they find themselves in a position where they um didn't do and that's

04:56:04.760 the driving factor for them to rise is i'm never going to do that again i'm never going to find

04:56:08.600 myself in that that situation i'm i'm gonna step forward because i can never relive that that life

04:56:14.520 that i had or that moment that i had um and so you know i think a lot of people get into this black

04:56:20.440 and white you know if you make an oath and you you can't it's forever uh you know you can't ever like

04:56:27.480 you know sometimes oaths between your brothers maybe perhaps they change so now the oath is

04:56:31.960 starting we got to re-talk about how this oath came about no you can't do that it's forever um

04:56:37.800 or you know that if you uh make a mistake you can't ever come back from it and i think that

04:56:44.040 the gods are seeing all of that and it's about that moment of rise and i don't think that always

04:56:48.600 correlates simply just to a moment in life also it can also be a culmination of your greatness and

04:56:55.400 built building of might and even though your body falls beneath you your soul is still mighty and

04:57:02.120 the deeds that you've committed in in the middle are noted and we hope and we pray that those

04:57:09.480 people are exalted and chosen by oven and we when we honor them and say you know i hope he's looking

04:57:16.680 down at us from the great hall but you know or you know he gets to look at oh then we're hoping

04:57:23.640 that he was chosen we're not saying that he absolutely was we're we're hoping we're praying

04:57:30.440 unless we absolutely you know well then says it sends a postcard or something like a picture

04:57:39.720 but uh the idea again is that's a that's a very big misconception and when i talk to people who

04:57:44.200 are not also true uh at my work and they'll ask like oh do you believe you're just gonna like go

04:57:48.680 to valhalla and i'm like no that's a very special thing it's a it's a a point of ascendancy through

04:57:55.240 being chosen um and that really throws them for a loop because they just equate like

04:58:01.720 if you have a horned helmet and you and you have you know furry shoulder pelts you're gonna get

04:58:06.120 into valhalla and it's so i i think it it's suddenly you can see it wash over them like wow

04:58:13.320 that's actually sounds more like a real actual religion than just you know i bought this sword

04:58:20.120 from the mall i'm going to valhalla it's made in the kingdom of china sorry

04:58:34.680 that kingdom makes some amazing things that's that's a story for another time i know but the

04:58:40.280 whole it's just yeah the the whole thing i'm a fan of that kingdom right now

04:58:47.560 for a reason that spawn knows the rest of y'all know at some point

04:58:51.000 yeah we're talking about the mall swords and i'm just saying they they make fine products

04:58:56.200 at reasonable prices um our next question have you ever wondered if gnomes were real it's fun

04:59:07.320 oh so you want to go into the gnomes first off gnome is a french word and it's an alchemical

04:59:15.080 origin actually the word gnome it's uh you know during the rise of uh kind of hermeticism mixed

04:59:21.720 with alchemical um uh derivatives that the word gnome derives from french alchemical practices

04:59:31.800 so that's worth noting but if you're talking about the tomta or if you're talking about the nisi

04:59:37.560 or the huddle folk uh those are all different names for i guess what people would consider

04:59:44.120 gnomes um and i think culturally we express them you know this is your little old man with a red

04:59:49.720 hat um i know for yule here you know we we my in my house we celebrate the yule elf and he wears

04:59:58.120 you know a little hat and it rides around on the yule block and you know brings presents from the

05:00:02.920 ancestors and and then fills the stockings with charcoal if our children are miserly and if they're

05:00:09.160 not then he gives them gifts um but when we're talking about the real like i guess it's the land

05:00:15.960 spirits and and the land spirits can take that form of very things whether it's the hold female

05:00:25.880 kind of um warning that's the you know of the seduct seductive spirit that's kind of malevolent

05:00:32.680 towards shepherds in the in the woods or whether we're talking about the uh the you know the

05:00:37.800 udina the water spirits or nymphs as a lot of people might use the greek word we use a lot of

05:00:43.640 different words for a lot of different things but in reality what we're talking about i think

05:00:47.560 blanketing is the land spirits and we sometimes talk about how spirits and that perhaps land

05:00:54.200 spirits come in and that has a huge effect in nordic gnome culture the idea of a gnome

05:01:02.760 or a nisi or automata coming into the house and blessing the house protecting the house and a lot

05:01:08.200 of people have had modern things where they feel like the land spirits have warned them about

05:01:13.560 things like that there was an animal that was uh uh harrying their um their flock and then they

05:01:19.800 find out sure enough there's like a pack of coyotes that have been trying to get at you know their

05:01:24.600 chickens or their sheep or something but they just had a dream that there was something going on there

05:01:29.400 was something wrong even though they had no idea they go and check it out and they believe that's

05:01:33.800 the tomta that's the nisi that's the hood folk or the house full the house white so we got a lot

05:01:40.120 of names but ultimately those are spirits of the land that may be of um i would say not like quite

05:01:49.240 human intelligence but have a semblance of um whether it's intelligence and being

05:01:57.160 enough to the point where they can interact sometimes they're connected to stones sometimes

05:02:01.640 they're connected to trees and other times and again they inhabit those places um but other

05:02:07.560 times they don't it's not every tree it's not every stone it's not every um blade of grass has

05:02:14.120 a a tamta or a nisi living in it it's it's really comes about from the interaction and that

05:02:21.240 interaction usually always comes in the forms of dreams or sometimes something goes missing

05:02:26.360 and that's taken as the tamta is angry and then someone will you know offer an offering to the

05:02:33.240 the nisi or the tonta and then they find it again you know it's it's um some people could relegate

05:02:40.120 it in ausitrue you could say well that perhaps maybe that's just the folk having kind of a

05:02:44.840 subconscious interaction with themselves or something you could science it away if you want

05:02:49.400 to or you could logicize it or you could see that the land spirits are something outside of us um

05:02:57.400 oftentimes you know in the same way when we're talking about poltergeist and vergar and things

05:03:02.680 like that when you get into those those spirits um i think they have validity but they're the usage

05:03:10.280 and and uh they're they're i think they're kind of more out in the wild um it definitely seems to be

05:03:17.000 less of an issue or a prevalence in highly urbanized areas and i i don't know if that's

05:03:22.600 there's a mysticism to being out in the you know on the edges of society or perhaps order creates

05:03:29.720 less of a wiggle room for entities that can cause just as much malice as they can benefit be careful

05:03:36.520 of that too you know that's always kind of held whether you're talking about the celts or the

05:03:41.560 the keltoid or the gauls or you're talking about the germanics it's always been held like

05:03:47.400 it can be kind of dangerous you got to be careful about you know messing with the spirits of the

05:03:52.440 land around there um you know you don't want to get elf shot or you don't want to uh offend so

05:03:58.440 make sure you go through that place with a lot of respect and that's it that's like their closest

05:04:03.400 encounter with an understanding of of the of the beings of the land but i did want to make the

05:04:08.840 point that gnome is a french origin word and uh tamta nisi or ultimately lanvetier land white

05:04:18.600 would be um the more broad term of all of that

05:04:21.400 what's fun said yeah no i no disrespect to the questions fun just covered it very very adequately

05:04:35.560 um when we

05:04:44.920 most of those words that aren't obscure any of the words that are very common

05:04:51.400 we immediately conjure up a silly fairytale version of that in our mind.

05:05:02.240 A little, like, bearded old man that's, you know,

05:05:09.760 like a foot tall with his little pointy hat doing cute little gnome stuff.

05:05:14.320 um no that's silly but believing in the spirits of the land absolutely and they display themselves

05:05:24.880 in a lot of different ways i think that's one way that our ancestors depicted them

05:05:30.260 to help us understand them but yeah i absolutely believe in land spirits

05:05:36.100 there are spirits that occupy object and place and many different things that way

05:05:47.420 i think there's layers of them and varieties of them and i i don't think that there is a

05:05:54.380 compendium that tells us all the little details of every nuance and variance and i think they're

05:06:00.920 seen and experienced in different ways by different people over time um but yeah absolutely

05:06:07.960 i believe in the land spirits if i didn't believe them i wouldn't welcome them in a ritual

05:06:11.880 and ask them to bear witness to things that we're doing um our next question is so we covered egypt

05:06:20.200 being somewhat arian i think that's a stretch of what we said it but okay uh somewhat somewhat not

05:06:28.920 uh but what about the egyptian gods are the air are they arian gods

05:06:33.880 ron mcvan says gods like ra and isis are arian in his books

05:06:40.920 i have a tremendous amount of respect for ron as a man um he has done amazing work to

05:06:51.320 pioneer and sustain also true during his time he's done um really really neat and really different

05:07:06.040 artwork he's done a lot of things for us no disrespect to him but i think that's a little bit

05:07:12.040 of a reach um i think that in later periods certainly you see arian gods glossed onto

05:07:25.000 ra and isis both i think especially you see that in the roman period

05:07:32.920 very often the legions depending on where they were stationed would bring back a lot of different

05:07:38.840 exotic religions into the empire and then there would be a search for commonality

05:07:46.120 and a glomming on of all the different deities that are similar into one into one pile for

05:07:52.600 worship i think that's something you saw in europe with isis quite a bit

05:07:59.480 raw i think less so but rye i think in the same greek example i used earlier

05:08:05.320 um you know me saying that i think uh ron mcvan was reaching a little bit on that is

05:08:17.080 equivalent to me saying that

05:08:20.680 king alexander the great the king of kings the lord of persia egypt and macedon and greece was

05:08:29.320 also reaching so it puts ron in very good company um but i do think that's a little bit of a overlay

05:08:38.920 onto non-aryan deity but again egypt is one of those areas that the cultural influence goes out

05:08:49.000 of and i think that there was certainly a um arian coat of paint put on both of those deities in in

05:08:57.800 the very later periods of egypt uh what are your what are your thoughts on that spawn um

05:09:05.480 yeah i mean the only time i've ever seen this is just and i'm not saying that they are correlated

05:09:12.360 but there's just one interesting like note is uh i think the uh egyptians had um the the the sky

05:09:21.720 goddess they call nut and she's seen as black with stars and it's you know and of course our word

05:09:31.760 is night and we have the goddess of night not and but again the correlation of how the

05:09:40.340 Egyptians saw the sky versus the night and the the the you know I think the coincidence between

05:09:47.900 the languages is more of a coincidence to be honest um but somebody brought it up it's like

05:09:55.020 oh they have not and we have not there and and uh they do this too again with with uh with with uh

05:10:00.460 ingvi frey and enki amongst the uh you know uh sumerian or babylonian i can't it's all kind of

05:10:08.540 mashing together right now um the uh the one thing i would say is that there are cultural things

05:10:15.980 when we're looking at the broad strokes of the egyptians versus um other religions around them

05:10:24.060 whether we're talking about the the the the people that speak the language of shem the the shemetic

05:10:29.740 or semitic people the way they viewed their gods whether they were the canaanites or the edomites

05:10:35.580 or the judahites or all of those groups and how they kind of went back and forth between you know

05:10:42.140 know monotheism and paganism and so or multi-faceted or bi-faceted uh one thing that's

05:10:50.920 unique i think amongst the egyptians was their heavy placement on iconography of their gods

05:10:56.100 was so totally unique um uh outside i you don't usually see that uh placement and the heavy like

05:11:06.760 uh animistic symbolism always stuck out to me i think anybody that thinks of egyptian religion

05:11:14.120 just again really broad strokes they're thinking you know ibis headed and falcon headed and

05:11:20.680 crocodilian and and um that says a lot about the origins of their cultural view of divinity

05:11:29.480 um and it's so drastically different from everywhere else and so uniquely based around

05:11:35.720 the nile um and it just you know it goes that enough far back and again like i said i'm broad

05:11:42.600 stroking it because i know that's not always the case and there could be arguments about you know

05:11:47.080 minoan and and greek uh you know influxes or that they traveled down there along the through the

05:11:54.200 mediterranean and possibly also you know uh the the people of the land you know where uh palestine

05:12:02.840 and and all of that is and they moved in there too yes i think that a lot of those migrations

05:12:09.000 probably did happen but to uh the correlation between their gods being arian gods um i don't

05:12:16.920 know i think there's a lot more genetic connection between the egyptians and the european people

05:12:22.680 especially in later dates and a lot of later interactions and kingdoms that had washed over

05:12:29.400 there i think there's a lot of actual genetic tracing that you could do back to egypt for

05:12:35.320 multiple reasons not just the egyptians were white it's like there's lots of history as to why there

05:12:41.720 are genetic linkers but religiously i i still feel that their their religion is very not it is

05:12:51.880 i think more a culmination of that belt that went across all the way from egypt to iraq

05:12:58.520 i think that there is a far more greater um argument to be had that they fit more in that

05:13:06.360 belt than they do going northward into the germanic like we have like from iran all the way west up

05:13:15.640 through and into you know the baltic sea as more of a belt i would say that moved westward and they

05:13:23.480 were certainly part of a belt of a long existing people that uh eventually became the shamedics and

05:13:32.360 the north african myriads of people um so i don't know i can't i just don't feel

05:13:40.760 opinion-wise that they are the the same all right so our next question is kind of controversial

05:13:48.040 but i think we should answer it with candor um from what i understand the afa takes the position

05:13:55.320 if you're white and others identify you as white then you can join but there's something i've been

05:14:00.680 thinking about if white person knows they have a non-white ancestor should they still

05:14:07.080 join the afa as long as they don't talk about it um in general yes um

05:14:18.040 and i know that may offend the purists but i think that we have a tendency to purity spiral um 0.60

05:14:30.040 it depends i mean some of that depends if your dad is black as midnight 0.67

05:14:36.680 and some know how magically you don't look like a black person

05:14:41.960 that's very odd in nature doesn't really work that way the way it does work is if you know

05:14:52.440 that you know some great grandparent or further back might be something different

05:15:01.640 it's very easy to let perfect be the enemy of good the afa has never had a purity standard the

05:15:08.520 standard is do you look like us are you recognizable to us as one of us and that's really how things

05:15:18.520 work um we've mentioned the soul complex and the the the leak is a part of the soul complex

05:15:33.240 how you look is a reflection of your soul at large

05:15:38.780 if you obviously look white then that's probably where you should be if you seriously have

05:15:50.600 questions about what race you are that tells you a lot too you having those internal questions

05:15:58.420 is probably a reason for you to to rethink what you're doing i found most often if people have

05:16:08.880 something hiding in their ancestry that nobody else knows about and they make a big deal out of

05:16:14.720 it's not on the rest of us it's on them to reconcile an internal struggle and turmoil

05:16:22.500 that they have. That's much more often the case. I think, you know, I've always said making perfect

05:16:32.580 the enemy of good is a bad idea. I think that, yeah, we don't play that game. And if you start

05:16:45.860 playing the 100 purity game it leads you into ever increasing or ever decreasing rings of what's

05:16:57.100 acceptable to where eventually the only people white enough are if you're from Galway but if

05:17:06.880 you're from the east side of whatever road in Galway, within three blocks of, you know,

05:17:16.520 McDowell's Pub. Like, you're going to get infinitesimally smaller if you're constantly

05:17:23.760 seeking that purity spiral. You know if you're white or you're not white. We all know that.

05:17:31.660 Everybody else knows that. It's a thing. Unfortunately, we live in a world where,

05:17:39.900 especially in the United States, purity, determining purity is a self-defeating process.

05:17:50.660 So you go with the vast majority of what you are, and it's obvious.

05:17:57.280 it's never not obvious in a real sense if you are obsessed with the fact that you think you're

05:18:07.800 something that's not white and you're trying to pass yourself off as white then no don't join 0.89

05:18:13.720 that's disingenuous if you are white and you know damn well you're white then okay join we're not 0.97

05:18:21.000 to get the skull calipers out and it's all good and we'll move forward we make way more out of 0.98

05:18:28.440 this than we need to and it becomes a needlessly divisive issue and you know i know that we have

05:18:37.240 purists out there that are you know grasping their pearls right now yeah but i'm trying to

05:18:43.320 to give an honest answer and you know i i'm going to be honest regardless of you know pearl clutching

05:18:52.120 or not uh svan what what do you have to to add to that yeah it's uh again it is a ongoing sloggy

05:19:01.720 mud puddley uh kind of t tire spinning um issue that it but again it does it does take worth to

05:19:11.720 note in addressing i mean there are people out there that will argue till you're blue in the

05:19:15.800 face that we can't have fins and welsh in the in in their version of the afa or in their version

05:19:22.200 of a of a folk religion there would be no spaniards because they were invaded and uh just it

05:19:28.200 goes on and on the big thing is is there it really boils down to just two things the the way you

05:19:36.120 perceive yourself and the way you are perceived the way that when we look at you do we see

05:19:41.720 a a folk person uh and and we're still at the point where we can do that that's worth noting

05:19:49.340 because i i have you know i have interestingly enough um met a lot of folks here native american

05:19:56.480 folks here uh in in my area and westward um where that's not super easy for them to do anymore

05:20:03.680 um and have lamented on that in a certain respect uh the um the lumby and um some of the folks out

05:20:13.400 west i please i don't i don't remember um their uh tribe affiliate affiliations but uh you know

05:20:21.620 lamenting on a lot of that is that the you know they as a native people no longer often look

05:20:26.760 native and that they're pulling at percentage numbers but ultimately they're still only they're

05:20:33.800 seeing a person that they don't equate in their mind to being that native person and so that

05:20:40.520 that's an interesting point so it's again when we see you are you folk and then also too do you

05:20:47.800 perceive yourself as folk do you see yourself as folk do you when you go to the dmv is that the the

05:20:52.520 the the box you check um and again that could that could oftentimes uh you know

05:21:00.200 conflict with each other a person who might be like half asian half white and they really uh

05:21:06.440 support our ethnicity or being an ethnicity but they're stuck in the middle and they clearly look

05:21:12.280 asian this that's sad in and of itself we don't hate that person that's a sad fact that has come

05:21:19.000 about because now they're kind of on this it's unfortunate their parents did that to them right

05:21:25.960 and it it and so we see that and we understand their their plight in a way it's like so our whole

05:21:35.080 point is you know i don't know if my it's my my father i know descended uh from english canadians

05:21:42.040 and i don't know if at some point uh-oh swan's gotta go i know yeah i don't know if if uh you

05:21:50.600 know uh someone somewhere back it was fur trapping and and married himself a huron girl i i don't know

05:22:00.360 at some point

05:22:01.160 point we could we could parse it down until we have you know cascading spirals of irrelevancy

05:22:13.960 or we can take what we have we all know this guy wider is he not is he not white and just go with 0.55

05:22:19.640 it the other issue that's fond mentioned Elizabeth Warren can't join the AFA unless she has a massive

05:22:27.800 change of heart she is whiter than you know the driven snow but if she's going to tell everybody 1.00

05:22:36.120 about what a you know what a native american she is that's disruptive and we can't have that 0.70

05:22:45.320 so there is actual whiteness and then there is pretend nonsense that is disruptive

05:22:53.880 either of those things if a normal white person doesn't see you and say ah it's one of us or

05:23:03.160 if you are obsessed with believing that you're something other then you probably shouldn't be 0.61

05:23:10.360 here if you're white and you obviously know you're white we know you're white then cool 0.98

05:23:16.200 just enjoy it and relax if you're going to come over and pretend that you are something other 0.71

05:23:25.720 we can't have that um and you know that's the honest truth of the matter i'm for you know it

05:23:34.680 whether people want it to be or not that's that's where it's at that's always been the standard it

05:23:40.440 was described to me by our founder, Steve McNallan, as the duck quantum. You know, look like a duck,

05:23:47.640 walk like a duck, and quack like a duck, and it's a duck, and that's cool. We know what that is.

05:23:56.040 Barry, brand new paid up member as of today from Ohio. Welcome. I think my theology studies may

05:24:04.700 confused me due to the difference between general theology and actual religion in general theology

05:24:13.020 polytheistic gods are assumed to be ancestral spirits so are the iser our ancestors themselves

05:24:21.980 or merely worshiped by our ancestors

05:24:24.540 in a God's chosen sort of deal.

05:24:35.400 Again, this goes back to my tired rant

05:24:39.440 about scholasticism versus devotional religion.

05:24:46.880 The study of theology is our attempt

05:24:50.560 to better understand our gods our gods are not obliged to conform to the syllabus of the general

05:25:00.480 theology class um our gods and here's another thing in the in the sense of ancestors it's very

05:25:12.080 common for us to say and also true that our gods are ancient our most ancient ancestors

05:25:17.440 that is true in the fact that we are their children and they created us

05:25:24.720 that being said you know odin didn't conceive man with frigga and make a person and then odin was

05:25:37.700 his father and then that person had a had a child and odin was that child's grandfather

05:25:42.260 It's not a lineal descent in that way. Odin is is our most ancient grandfather in the sense that he created us and gave us the gift of life, breathed life into us.

05:26:01.420 but the general theology course seems to be structured from a monotheistic judeo-christian

05:26:15.280 perspective which is is understandable

05:26:19.300 um but that doesn't make it authoritative our gods are authoritative perhaps other gods are

05:26:30.520 authoritative in their spheres. But yeah, our relationship with the All-Father and the other

05:26:38.560 gods for that matter, they breathed us into existence as a people, as a folk. They shaped

05:26:46.800 our reality and our existence. They're the source of our blood and our life force. Therefore,

05:26:56.660 they are our most ancient ancestors it's fine do you have anything to add on that the other thing

05:27:03.440 too as you had said from that perspective of the the judeo-christian uh kind of theological or or

05:27:11.420 our divine outlook of things it gets even muddier for people who are saying perhaps monotheistic

05:27:17.960 when we start to talk about the the influx of divinity because we believe in a multiplicity

05:27:26.660 that that that there are other gods who have interacted with us as well with outcome with

05:27:32.180 desired outcome and with intent uh and i'm obviously referring to rings uh rings uh

05:27:38.660 and of heimdall but also too you know there has been deep claims of descendancy from the gods

05:27:46.760 whether we're talking about Woden amongst the royalty of the British or the Ingetal in Sweden.

05:27:55.980 And that even muddies the water even more.

05:27:59.720 Also, too, the Goths referred to the gods as the Ansees, and that also had the same meaning as ancestor.

05:28:07.160 And again, it is, they are our eldest ancestors.

05:28:09.860 We shaped, formed, and brought in from them.

05:28:14.540 But also, too, there is a coalescing of the gods interacting with us as we have grown and that we change and become better with our interactions with them.

05:28:27.440 It could be mythos symbolicism or it could be the belief, too, that that divine interaction does make us more.

05:28:36.280 But that muddies the waters even more to the idea of how exactly they are our ancestors.

05:28:42.860 And I would say that it's worth noting that when people say it from that perspective, they're trying to say, oh, well, the polytheistic people of the world just deified their ancestors.

05:28:56.360 But in reality, it was Yahweh who created everything and did everything.

05:29:00.380 And that's really what's kind of going on there.

05:29:03.660 If that is not the case and you move that out of the out of the way and look at the gods breathing life all then and the consciousness and the life of us and then the interlaying of the gods as we carry on that our interaction isn't just one and done.

05:29:24.740 it's not the grand providence winding up the clock and then it's there is interaction there's there's

05:29:32.200 you know give and take there's times of drought and there's times of abundance

05:29:38.500 there's these cycles that go on and when you look back in our in our lives we clearly see

05:29:43.500 that our interactions with the gods can have generational effects and that muddies the water

05:29:49.920 even more so just you got to remove the lens of um you know uh jehovah uh you know most most

05:30:03.100 christian or judaic they don't even concept jehovah or yahweh they just say god and god is

05:30:08.420 kind of a a platonic all catch-all and uh that polytheistic people are just you know they're

05:30:16.520 worshiping trees, they're worshiping rocks, and they're worshiping their ancestors. That is not

05:30:22.300 correct. But when you remove that, then we can look at generational add additional interactions

05:30:29.200 and elevations upping the game, if you will, from our interactions with our with our gods and how

05:30:35.940 they do that, how they make us better and stronger and smarter and more acclimated to understanding a

05:30:43.120 of the wisdoms that they've they already have all right so our next question are there veterans in

05:30:49.920 the afa like people who fought in wars like in afghanistan yes there are lots and lots and lots

05:30:59.360 and lots of veterans in the afa um amongst our leadership there are quite a bit of uh veterans as

05:31:10.000 well and there's people who have served in general and been you know in the military during times of

05:31:20.880 of conflict i'm i'm looking at something in our database right now so excuse me if i'm

05:31:26.960 typing a couple of things

05:31:28.640 I got to pick something on that. Anyways, yes, there's tons of veterans in the AFL. I have a

05:31:49.200 better answer for you here in a second. We have lots of people. And again, I'm not sure where

05:31:57.820 you're asking the question from um but certainly here in the united states amongst a lot of people

05:32:10.220 um my age and swan's age there's a lot of people that have been deployed

05:32:15.500 and been in a lot of things in iraq and afghanistan um

05:32:19.980 and theaters untalked and lots of other stuff uh as of right now

05:32:31.500 about

05:32:34.940 more than a fifth less than a quarter of our members are veterans um we have a lot amongst leadership

05:32:44.700 um as far as leaders that have seen some stuff uh the my co-host tonight has probably seen more than

05:32:56.140 most members in the afa or most that i know about um svan uh and this the very next question is this

05:33:07.580 so i'll just put it out there right now because it's connected svan what was your time in the

05:33:11.980 military like so swan please share what you are comfortable with sharing um

05:33:21.660 what was it like it was it was lonely uh i think that a lot of young men that join the military

05:33:27.180 you know they can get shipped off into places unknown that we don't know anything about and

05:33:32.540 often find ourselves kind of uh disconnected from our communities our families or or what have you

05:33:38.380 some of us are running some of us aren't um you know some people run from bad relationships or

05:33:43.980 you know jobs and things like that or just they like i joined um pre-9-11 so uh a lot of people

05:33:52.620 i remember our drill instructors joking like they didn't know about 9-11 coming obviously but they

05:33:57.260 they were just like you guys coming in february i can already tell you guys are bottom of the barrel

05:34:02.060 you guys have failed in school and you got nothing left you're probably broke you're eating ramen and 0.98

05:34:06.940 living with you know a bunch of dumb nuts exes they would you know call guys you know and you're 0.77

05:34:12.780 just running um and this is what we got to work with and um i remember just kind of chuckling 0.84

05:34:18.460 because it was kind of true but um then you know 9 11 happened and i think a lot of people did join

05:34:25.980 with the the intent of uh going to the fight and without quite realizing where those fights

05:34:33.900 were going to be pointed at but uh they were hopped up on you know the standing and and um

05:34:41.260 that's a whole nother thing but um

05:34:46.380 yeah i uh i ended up in um hawaii before 9-11 so i was a 3-3 marine and um i uh

05:34:55.260 uh, I actually got my first combat action ribbon, not even in the, the big feeders of,

05:35:04.180 of Iraq and, or Afghanistan. I've never been to Afghanistan. I was only in Iraq.

05:35:09.260 That was the big feeder going on. But my first combat action ribbon was actually in a

05:35:13.300 tiny little, uh, Island nation called East Timor. And the Australians and the Americans were, uh,

05:35:19.740 conducting uh combat missions they're completely unrelated to the the the middle east and that's

05:35:26.800 because i was in hawaii and our theater was the south pacific um and then i you know committed to

05:35:32.620 another combat um mission in uh and some of the veterans are going to chuckle at this in operation

05:35:38.820 enduring boredom uh the the mission is called operation enduring freedom but that was in

05:35:44.040 Southeast Asia. And, um, but I actually had not boredom. I had quite the opposite. And, um,

05:35:51.560 and then, um, you know, deploying constantly, uh, I was living off of, you know, uh, ships and being

05:35:59.760 flown around. I pretty much, I, I did something that's very uncommon. I got a silver star in my

05:36:05.340 overseas deployment medal, which is almost unheard of in a, in just a four-year term,

05:36:10.880 because that means you deploy five times so i was never in hawaii but in the beginning and a little

05:36:17.040 bit at the end and everywhere else i was just constantly moving and going where they needed to

05:36:22.480 go and when i finally got back to hawaii i got pulled for something called a combat replacement

05:36:27.920 platoon which means i'm going to go join another unit because the marine corps needs of the marine

05:36:33.200 corps uh they they send you out and you join another unit and then you don't come back until

05:36:39.040 they come back. So I was, I stayed longer than, um, my term. Some people call it stop loss,

05:36:46.440 but I was actually, you know, I was, um, uh, TAD, I was attached to another unit and I ended up in

05:36:53.500 Iraq in the Anbar province, um, and, and on the Euphrates. And, uh, I was with a unit that had

05:37:01.820 a huge ao and um we uh moved everywhere from al-assad air base all the way north to mosul

05:37:12.220 and all the way as far west as uh or i mean um mosul and ramadi and fallujah and all the way

05:37:20.780 west to the border where i could actually see the syrians and the iraqi border patrol

05:37:25.020 like fighting each other um and we you know just seeing their tracer rounds zipping by and stuff

05:37:30.780 like that it was it was uh it was a wild time um i held bloat in in iraq on uh the euphrates i was

05:37:39.180 also true back when i was like 13 years old so and i didn't join the marine control i was i was 21

05:37:45.660 so i was even older than a lot of the people that had already joined they were 17 18 19 that's the

05:37:51.740 bulk of the age so i was kind of an older guy just by the fact that i could drink um and uh

05:37:58.780 it's ironic looking back at it now in my 40s going wow i was the old guy in the group and

05:38:03.580 i didn't even know my elbow from my ass end by you know during that time um but it was uh

05:38:13.180 it was a time i think it was interesting it really did wake me up about a lot of things 0.76

05:38:17.980 i think i was in a malaise and i was purposely ignorant when i came back i just wanted to

05:38:23.100 kind of forget and fold in and um when i realized some of the kind of more grander

05:38:32.300 points of of that time frame from 9 11 on and into the combat zones and into iraq i

05:38:38.700 really kind of woke me up um that there's a lot going on and i really wish i had known

05:38:43.660 that but that's the folly of youth is not knowing things and um outside of that my

05:38:49.740 My combat time was, I would say, a lot cleaner than most. My missions, everything I went on from East Timor to in Mindanao and Basilan Island in the Philippines to Iraq were all exceedingly well.

05:39:13.300 I, uh, never ran into a situation where I was in trouble. I had great people to my right and my

05:39:21.000 left. I did my job, you know, hard and fast and did what I needed to do. And, uh, and I was good

05:39:28.240 at it. So, um, uh, I ended up becoming a designated marksman, um, in Iraq. And then this was before,

05:39:37.520 uh dms were really even a thing i they got schools now and stuff so i was on the forefront of that

05:39:43.920 uh stuff and it was um it was an interesting time i i it's bittersweet there's i would never i would

05:39:52.480 never say i wouldn't do it but you can't step away from the times that you're in even no matter how

05:39:58.800 retrospectively you want to you have to just go forward and and and again rise to those occasions

05:40:05.840 without stepping back and that's what i did i you know every time i ever got into country and

05:40:11.760 like especially when i was deployed as a combat replacement um they physically told me hey if you

05:40:18.640 go up here you're gonna get attacked they just got attacked or you can go down here and where

05:40:23.200 it's been quiet and i i'll go i'll go up north i'll go to uh up into alkyme where they're you

05:40:29.520 know they're getting hit heavy and i'll go now so that somebody else doesn't have to deal with it

05:40:33.360 so i just i didn't have a lot of attachment um uh my mother and i were not in the best of terms

05:40:41.040 and outside of that i had no real contact to family i wasn't married i didn't have children

05:40:45.440 so i was pretty much just dead set to step on any line that was set before me

05:40:51.760 and um yeah and then i i came out i i got out i was um stuck with this unit that i barely even

05:41:01.360 new and when their time to come home that was my time to come home and as soon as i got home with

05:41:05.440 them i got sent back to my original unit and they were like get out rush rush rush rush rush and

05:41:11.360 then i was back in the civilian sector without really fully processing everything that happened

05:41:18.000 um and at first i thought i was broken i thought that i was maybe perhaps i was definitely masking

05:41:25.760 lot of my problems with um you know alcohol and things like that but i ended up coming to terms

05:41:33.120 with a lot of that and i met a wonderful woman that helped me through a lot of my issues and

05:41:38.720 then i realized that the alcohol was just masking problems that i needed to talk about i went to

05:41:44.240 counseling i actually talked to a an army medic that was in vietnam and he really um helped me

05:41:52.560 out a lot kind of putting things into perspective and understanding about healing and about going

05:41:58.320 forward with a with a whole mind and not being broken but being productive and being um forward

05:42:04.800 thinking and i think that's what led me to marriage and children and uh wanting to help my folk and

05:42:11.040 just wanting to be a good upstanding house so it really really kind of exalted my my stuff there's

05:42:20.000 a lot of bumps and certainly i'm giving you the the smooth curved version of it all but um at the

05:42:27.040 end you know i'm here now and i can see this kind of arc where it led me and um so i'm happy and i

05:42:32.960 when i meet guys in the afa who have been in stuff some of them have been in far worse situations with

05:42:39.440 me than me um you know i just got lucky again we call it sometimes it's the numbers you know

05:42:45.600 you choose your numbers you could you could join in the middle of a war and never be sent anywhere

05:42:50.480 you just end up guarding something in the middle of like wyoming and you didn't choose that it's

05:42:55.920 just the way it all wove out and then some guys they go in and they they really see some hard

05:43:01.440 times and i try to help and talk to the guys that might be um needing to get things out and they're

05:43:08.960 they're masking them under other things whether it's living wild and you know riding motorcycles

05:43:14.000 or wanting to jump out of planes or continue the fight and go trigger pulling for you know

05:43:21.440 operation uh companies and things like that i've had a couple of friends who've done that they

05:43:26.080 never really left um that combat theater and now they're kind of too old now and they're coming

05:43:32.320 back and they're they don't know what to do i've been talking to them too and trying to help them

05:43:37.600 out trying to steer young men away from frivolous things i think um i had a lot of young guys who

05:43:44.080 were trying to um go gung-ho and i was trying to tell them like you know you don't know what you're

05:43:50.880 getting into and you need to go with a better head and you know better understanding better training

05:43:56.800 you can't just jump into things and unfortunately those young guys which i was a young guy too they

05:44:03.040 didn't listen some of them did some of them didn't but that was uh it's an ongoing thing

05:44:09.680 but it's it's a huge part of my spiritual growth but it's not the entirety of it at all

05:44:17.600 i appreciate you sharing all that with us

05:44:23.920 yeah i think it's i think it's important and i think that

05:44:26.720 because you've been there and seen what you've seen you speak with a lot of gravitas

05:44:34.320 especially to those of us who haven't served um who have a lot of ideas of what things are like

05:44:41.920 but who haven't experienced it ourselves so i appreciate you sharing that we've got a five

05:44:47.680 dollar donation over on entropy and uh i hope this hasn't said another iron heart

05:44:54.320 no no i mean by the um

05:45:01.760 by wandering warrior and uh no as far as i know it it's a guy that talked about the doom porn

05:45:09.520 earlier um if the uk folk builder wasn't on the internet would he even know that the opposition

05:45:16.480 was gathering would he still be full of fear would the opposition know he was planning a move

05:45:22.080 Is there a lesson here? How loud is the enemy in real life versus online? So I want to break

05:45:28.720 that down into a couple of pieces. Would the opposition know he was planning a moot?

05:45:36.640 No, but that's one of the things that we do. It's fundamental to what we're doing

05:45:40.600 and to how we do it that we do advertise publicly because we want to draw our people home and we

05:45:47.820 want to get the message out there. And specifically, we want to break out of the very small bubbles

05:45:55.420 that a lot of us find ourselves in. So no, the opposition wouldn't have known if he wouldn't

05:46:01.660 have advertised the moot, but him advertising the moot was absolutely correct. The flip side of that

05:46:10.240 and the other side of the blade on that is, unfortunately, no, if you surround yourself

05:46:18.780 with the internet all day, every day, and this isn't an indictment against him personally. I

05:46:24.420 don't know his particular habits. And honestly, who am I to criticize that? I check on AFA stuff

05:46:34.040 online literally all day, every day. So I'm not faulting that.

05:46:40.240 But it's very easy to see that as being much, much bigger than it is.

05:46:47.320 As far as we know, no, there were lots of generically pagan people in the United Kingdom signing a petition saying,

05:47:01.500 don't let these guys practice their religion because they don't think like the rest of us think.

05:47:06.360 because there was a lot of that. He did get called by the authorities,

05:47:13.240 not threatened, but like, hey, what's this going on? What was your plan?

05:47:19.160 That was enough for him to be terrified and to hide from the opposition that he faced.

05:47:28.780 it's really easy the more that

05:47:35.960 we all get that it's really easy the more that the internet is a part of your life and your

05:47:43.360 touchstone of reality that you can get a really disproportionate view that way

05:47:52.240 it's important that people go out and just exist and see see what's going on you know

05:47:58.200 if you're just sitting there stewing and looking at the internet, everyone is against you all the

05:48:04.740 time. You go down to the store, nobody pays you any attention. Nobody cares. They're all doing

05:48:11.900 their own thing. If you go anywhere about your business in your daily life, you're not mobbed

05:48:19.740 by paparazzi. Your own personal struggles are not everyone in the world's concern.

05:48:28.200 And life is a lot better than you convince yourself it is if you just flagellate yourself with internet heckling all day, every day.

05:48:42.280 um twitter is not an accurate reflection of your community and your reality

05:48:56.060 if you are in a specific conversation and there's a hundred people on twitter that

05:49:03.580 complain about how terrible and evil you are drive from your house to the store and you pass

05:49:09.800 a hundred people that don't care. Go to that store. There's probably a hundred people in the

05:49:16.560 store that don't care. Multiply that by a thousand. And you know, that's really where your life's at.

05:49:25.100 That is much, much easier said than done. And I don't mean to make light of it,

05:49:29.700 but it's really important for us, especially when we spend so much time in a very small bubble

05:49:35.700 to reality check what we're doing and weigh that to make rational decisions and not decisions based

05:49:44.620 on fear. Next question, how do you guys memorize stories and names from the Eddas slash sagas,

05:49:56.940 etc after eight years and realizing our and re and reading everything twice i still feel like i know

05:50:05.900 very little um this can absolutely feel that way when you start out because it's not a genesis

05:50:19.740 to revelation thing there's so many different sagas so many different pieces of our lore from

05:50:27.740 so many different sources so many different things to learn that aren't all codified in one volume

05:50:36.140 with a clear start and a clear finish it's very hard don't be discouraged you put those things

05:50:43.980 together and when you read any contemporary source they pull on all these different sources

05:50:50.620 and if you try to read that first you feel out of touch because you don't know all the references

05:50:58.700 the more you read the more you study the more you devote yourself to it you will find yourself

05:51:05.420 reading things and you're like ah okay i'm all right i remember that okay and all of a sudden

05:51:12.380 things will start making sense that didn't before that happened with me back

05:51:22.540 trying to think of when i first read the culture of the teutons maybe like 2011 i don't know

05:51:31.180 all of a sudden all these things started to make sense because i had

05:51:35.100 gone back and i'd read so many different pieces of the lore that the examples and the things that

05:51:42.380 uh grown back the author had quoted i knew them i was familiar with you'll get to a point where it

05:51:49.740 all coalesces until it gets there it may feel jumbled the importance is to remember

05:51:59.420 the themes and the big pictures of the stories

05:52:04.620 specific names and places are very hard for some people there's some people that have a mind for

05:52:11.340 that um and i knew this one guy uh used to be a friend of mine in florida and he

05:52:21.660 he was a savant at that kind of stuff if it came to any kind of you know civil war

05:52:27.900 revolutionary war any kind of american history any place you went he could tell you a date

05:52:34.300 this battle and this general and this guy and he it flowed so very easily for him and i was very

05:52:42.220 envious of that i'm not that guy when it comes to names and dates i can remember themes and i can

05:52:49.260 remember points of stuff but to remember specific names and dates is very hard for me and i've

05:52:59.260 always loved history and i've i've always you know at least for the last 20 years loved our lore um

05:53:09.340 but yeah it's challenging for different people stick with it it's uh the more you

05:53:15.420 immerse yourself with with this to where this is what you do all the time

05:53:21.180 the more it will be reinforced and the better that the pieces will all fit

05:53:29.260 And that's, you know, that's the best I can say is just keep trucking on it.

05:53:34.420 Realize that the important part is the gift cycle with the gods and you're worshiping the gods.

05:53:42.580 You can be also true and never read one piece of our lore.

05:53:48.480 You can read 100% of our existent lore and not be also true.

05:53:56.300 So that's really important to realize.

05:53:59.260 worship the gods, interact with them, make offerings and approach them with worship and

05:54:06.920 respect and then read these things and they will come to you over time. Just try and just keep

05:54:14.480 going at it. When in doubt, get a co-host like Svon and feed him the questions first so that

05:54:22.500 he steps on the landmines before you do. If you don't, if you're not sure if you remember something

05:54:27.900 quite right these are the secrets these are the secrets for those of you guys that stay up late

05:54:34.780 till the tail end of the show do you have any advice for for folks um who are having trouble

05:54:41.580 remember remembering specific names and you know i don't know compartmentalizing all the various

05:54:48.780 pieces of our lore yeah uh two things one you see yourself as an administer of deeds you control

05:54:57.180 your deeds so you see yourself as an administer of those deeds and the application of your moral

05:55:03.100 standards are to be laid out before you a very wise person had me take my goals and my my faults

05:55:11.820 and lay them out before myself and and and and from that i learned i'm an administer of and

05:55:17.660 controller of my deeds and um so once you do that the best thing i think is to look at the governing

05:55:25.980 bodies of the gods as a governing body to view your ancestors as a as it not a uh perhaps a

05:55:35.740 culminative body of people that came before you and thirdly the the surrounding uh land and the um

05:55:44.700 whether it's you know the land that you are steward over or perhaps land spirits if you if

05:55:50.060 you're living in a situation where that's prevalent um and i mean that as like if you're not like in a

05:55:55.980 urbanized city. A lot of times it's a lot harder to do that when you're living in a city as

05:56:00.920 opposed to living on a farm. But looking at these three sections as you understand your ancestors

05:56:13.000 and where you come from. So giving bloat to your ancestors, giving gifts to your ancestors,

05:56:18.900 I think is one of the best ways for you to start understanding how to build a relationship to the

05:56:25.100 gods without knowing individual minutia deities when you're getting caught up in names. You might

05:56:34.400 not know all your ancestors, but you're absolutely willing to give gift to them as a whole. And if

05:56:41.300 you can apply that, you can apply that to the land around you, and you can thus apply it to the gods.

05:56:47.460 They are a governing body. They have a hierarchy. They work within themselves. And you probably know

05:56:53.380 that from reading a lot of this, but it gets very confusing. So, um, you know, you could seek

05:57:00.600 clarity sometimes to ask Gothar in relation to, um, lore and things like that. But ultimately,

05:57:06.840 if you can give to your ancestors as a total whole, even though they are comprised of many

05:57:13.060 intricate parts that have existed in the middle world before you, you can, in essence, also apply

05:57:20.180 that to the house the austinia or the all the gods and the uh veneer without breaking them down into

05:57:31.300 individual pieces and it starts first by creating that relationship by reaching out and building

05:57:39.220 that divinity bridge within you through your deeds because again you are the administer of

05:57:43.940 your deeds and giving thanks to your ancestors and giving thanks to the land spirits and giving

05:57:48.020 things to the gods and building those cycles is a deed it's an act of devotion and you're starting

05:57:53.300 to build that you know uh building a harrow at your home to honor your ancestors is a way you

05:57:59.540 learn to build a harrow to honor the gods and it doesn't always have to be you know understanding

05:58:07.700 um that you know you're you're going to today i'm going to give prayer to uh delinger and

05:58:15.540 deir and not and sunnah and mauni and all the heavenly wardens or i'm today i'm going to honor

05:58:22.260 uh rinder and her son vali now we're getting into all these like super highly detailed things and

05:58:29.620 that doesn't equate to you being better uh if you can micro pick because ultimately the gods are

05:58:38.500 the uh it's it's the it's the forest is not one singular tree the gods the the s the aesir are

05:58:46.820 the forest they are all the trees and so to honor them all is first and foremost the most polite and

05:58:53.300 best way to go about doing that not get caught up in um you know i'm a welder so i'm going to honor

05:59:00.260 thor because i'm a working class guy and i or what have you but maybe over time you have a draw

05:59:06.340 or a time in your life where one of the gods really becomes prevalent in your understanding

05:59:11.540 and suddenly you want to build a relationship with one-on-one and then that may change you

05:59:17.700 grow older and you suddenly become more aware of a relationship that you might have with another

05:59:23.220 one of the gods that's okay it can become individual at times but ultimately the gods

05:59:29.860 as a whole as the governing body of them that they are that that natural law and cosmic order

05:59:37.300 manifested in multiplicity they are um unified together give honors to them just like you would

05:59:44.100 your ancestors you don't you can honor your great grandmother or great grandfather as an individual

05:59:48.980 but you also honor all your ancestors because there's many more that have come before you that

05:59:53.140 you might not know their names and then so you get that and do that and then when it comes to

06:00:00.260 actual lore stuff i think the biggest thing is to look at um uh lexicons of translation

06:00:09.060 and don't always see them as a hundred percent people translate the names of the gods and the

06:00:16.420 the Jotuns and, and, uh, the, the Dvergar, the dwarves or the, the Svartalfa are in the stories

06:00:23.040 and they have different kind of takes on a lot of it, but it'll help you understand their place

06:00:30.860 in the story. You know, if you know that, that the Dvergar, Alvis means the all wise, and he's

06:00:37.780 going to lore battle with Thor and he loses, which is kind of a play on words. Cause he's not,

06:00:43.680 he's coming in there with a lot of gusto and he ain't all wise um you realize the the purpose and

06:00:51.000 the meaning and the the overall arcing uh part of that story and the other thing is is i have always

06:00:57.180 taken it because i'm a storyteller at heart and i'm but every storyteller is really just a listener

06:01:02.880 of stories they um so when you read the lore try to understand them as as you as if you're being

06:01:10.680 told a story um and that will help you get the overarching meaning of it all if heimdall comes

06:01:19.160 down and meets great grandmother and great grandfather and then he he leaves and from

06:01:24.520 them spring the this generation and then he comes down again and he meets you know father and mother

06:01:30.280 and then generate now you're just kind of inundating yourself with a story because

06:01:35.560 our ancestors especially ones that held the faith of the gods since they were children and even like

06:01:41.540 my children have grown up hearing the stories of the gods before they could even walk we a lot of

06:01:49.460 us didn't have that so we're bridging that gap and don't feel rushed they had it from birth and it was

06:01:57.200 very long going it's gonna happen it just takes time and it just takes slow steady moving forward

06:02:05.260 but it helps a lot if you dissect away from the lore and look at the gods as the governing body

06:02:11.980 of your of your your people of of the heavens of your your soul and of the folk and your ancestors

06:02:20.060 and the spirits around you you can do that without getting into um you know highlighted specifics

06:02:27.820 and a lot of people don't realize that they can't concept that so i always say look at your

06:02:32.060 ancestors and you can apply that logic to the gods and the gods i don't think take that as an

06:02:39.660 insult you don't know my thousand heidi you know i don't think that's the case give honor to the

06:02:47.980 icier give honor to them as a whole and then as you learn you you'll gain kind of insight i i've

06:02:54.620 i had that very much so growing up i um really really focused i think like a lot of people do

06:02:59.980 when they come into austria they focus a lot on olden and over time as with spiritual like

06:03:06.300 prayer and things i i was led perhaps within myself and understanding or perhaps i was gleaned

06:03:12.540 to that information the idea is that one tree does not make the forest you must know the other trees

06:03:18.620 you must build those relationships and i did i went out and i i studied i i read the uh people's

06:03:25.660 interpretations of the lore and i prayed to lord frere and i prayed to lady freya i i prayed to

06:03:33.980 the other and i've had intricate and interesting interactions with these divine beings on their

06:03:41.340 own terms um that have had huge meaning in my life um but they came organically and naturally over

06:03:50.220 time i i remember um the uh the day before i i met my wife for the third time because we've known

06:03:57.820 each other through multiple times in our lives i was swimming in the ocean and a pot of dolphins

06:04:03.260 or porpoise really i i don't think they're they were porpoise they were like the darker um uh

06:04:10.460 dolphin but let's just say dolphins they uh they swam up within maybe 10 15 feet of me and i took

06:04:17.820 this as just a huge blessing from new york and then when i proceeded to leave the beach and then

06:04:25.180 all of a sudden my wife was there and i took that as like coalescing signs and i moved with that i

06:04:34.540 you know i i'm you never really make absolute confirmations uh sometimes i think there should

06:04:39.900 be an air of we don't fully understand how the gods are doing their works but they are doing

06:04:45.260 their works i don't i think it's kind of foolish for us to say oh yeah i totally get they're doing

06:04:50.300 a plus you know c equals z but in reality we we're kind of getting glimpses beyond the mechanics of

06:05:01.020 of all things kind of working together and those come over time and and you know that stuff is

06:05:06.380 outside of lore you know there that happened to me as a religious experience not as a something

06:05:12.300 i learn in lore and the way you can think about that is like the concept of frith in our culture

06:05:18.220 we talk about frith in the book the culture of the teutons he even talks about frith but there

06:05:23.740 isn't really a usage of the word frith in relation to uh people worshiping the gods and they're

06:05:33.500 talking about the gods want us to have frith there's there isn't really a correlation there

06:05:39.420 That is a religious thing that entirely is generated within our concepts of our moral framework. The idea of what Frith is to us as a people, what honor is, what is good.

06:05:53.660 the gods are noting they're watching and they're marking down but our our point is to learn and

06:06:01.980 gain that re-calibration of what our culture is and then abide by that so that they take notice

06:06:08.080 that we are improving getting better getting stronger and uh you know caring about our health

06:06:13.940 and our mental well-being and our soul well-being i think that's what starts the relationship with

06:06:18.560 gods and the details will like i was here ago they said will come in time just don't grind

06:06:25.120 your wheels about that make it more about religion and less about war and those two will eventually

06:06:31.520 converge um our next question uh and we covered this earlier but we'll touch on it again

06:06:41.520 do you think the idea of going to valhalla might not be so literal would the gods really

06:06:47.840 turn away the greatest warrior or soldier simply if they didn't die in combat? No, I think that's

06:06:55.040 silly. First, I will again stipulate the All-Father can welcome whoever he wants into his

06:07:02.720 all. We do not get to rationalize who he allows in and who he doesn't. That being said, no,

06:07:12.440 doesn't make any sense so you know audie murphy can't go in even though he's you know multiple

06:07:19.160 time uh congressional medal of honor winner just because he didn't happen to die in combat you know

06:07:26.280 otto scorzany known by the allies the most dangerous man in europe uh knights cross of

06:07:33.000 the iron cross winner can't go because he didn't die in combat uh general nathan bedford forest

06:07:40.600 killed about 30 men in hand-to-hand combat during the war led charges from horseback had multiple

06:07:50.280 horses shot out from under him one of the greatest warriors americans ever seen nope can't make it

06:07:55.400 because he didn't die in combat i really really doubt that but again it's not my call that's odin's

06:08:03.080 call um but we talked about that a little bit before i but i didn't want to ignore the question

06:08:09.480 that is something that we discussed um and that that's juxtaposition to like you don't agree with

06:08:16.120 my politics so uh you don't get to go to valhalla you see that a lot on the internet no nazis in

06:08:22.360 valhalla says who yeah the woke pink-haired dude in his mom's basement yeah i i think that it's an

06:08:31.160 interesting point that nobody really thinks about because they see that side being flung on the

06:08:34.680 internet but when they hear us talk about no it's it's odin's decision uh the the gravity of that

06:08:41.320 weight on the scale between those two should be noted yeah i can tell you who comes into my house

06:08:46.760 or not i have never been so presumptuous as to tell you who the all-father allows into his hall

06:08:53.160 or not who he deems worthy or not um the closest we've come is to say that aussitrew is an ethnic

06:09:01.080 faith of european people um but i don't dictate to odin who he can have at his table or not

06:09:09.560 i would never be that presumptuous um the next question i think's interesting and i think this is

06:09:19.960 i i think this comes from a really genuine place and i think a lot of

06:09:24.200 i don't know i i just think it's really interesting question oh before we go i'm

06:09:28.680 i'm gonna i'm gonna step i gotta let the dog in that's why i'm leaving to be right back see how

06:09:34.760 it is real madrid fan swan doesn't care about your questions he'd rather go let his dog in

06:09:42.520 no you're good i think your question is really important i've heard in america a lot of veterans

06:09:48.360 end up homeless have you known any and have any ended up joining the afa

06:09:54.200 I'll let Svahn answer this. I think he may know, have his own experiences on it, but

06:10:04.060 I have never known of someone who was homeless, was a homeless veteran,

06:10:14.540 and from a position of homelessness joined the Astru Folk Assembly.

06:10:19.180 we've had lots of and one of the issues with the homelessness it's not an economic issue

06:10:29.700 and i think a lot of people especially people in different countries may

06:10:33.920 not understand this maybe it's different in their country maybe it's not

06:10:38.660 here homelessness isn't about economics it tends to be about mental health

06:10:47.580 we have seen lots of uh soldiers come back very very mentally damaged and um ptsd and i think that

06:11:04.260 even sanitizes it or or makes it sound different than it is we've had a lot of guys come back

06:11:11.360 really, really broken and damaged mentally. We've had guys dealing with that in a lot of different

06:11:23.180 levels of success or failure. And it's fun, you just pop back in. But the question is,

06:11:30.440 there's homeless veterans in the United States, and they hear about that a lot overseas. Have

06:11:35.940 any homeless veterans join the AFA, not to my knowledge. But one thing I will say that I've

06:11:43.100 experienced, I have done a lot of counseling of members who have been dealing with severe PTSD

06:11:57.360 issues, a lot of veterans who've had a really hard time with some things.

06:12:07.280 I watched a former member who was a really good friend of mine

06:12:12.280 struggle with battlefield-related mental illness

06:12:19.500 over the course of years

06:12:24.660 and through a lot of different disappointments in his life,

06:12:31.060 through a lot of different guys that he served with

06:12:34.840 committing suicide and having other things go on in their life,

06:12:40.080 really took a toll over time.

06:12:44.880 various realizations about the state of our military and the state of some political

06:12:53.140 objectives. A lot of things compounded. And I watched a guy go from very reasonable,

06:13:02.940 what you would consider normal guy. I watched him descend into very deep depths of mental

06:13:12.920 illness and paranoia and it was uh i hate to even say it it was very instructive and

06:13:23.800 a learning experience for me to watch how that process happens

06:13:30.520 um last i've heard this person is doing uh doing okay and getting some help and i think that's

06:13:39.480 awesome. But I think that we often wonder when we pass homeless people, which are disproportionately,

06:13:55.240 certainly not all but there's a disproportionate number of veterans who find themselves there.

06:14:01.640 And we've seen that since Vietnam, that's not a new thing.

06:14:04.520 um you see these people literally talking to their shoe and acting crazy and

06:14:15.200 you wonder how could this have at one time been a normal person that wasn't like that

06:14:23.080 and i watched somebody that was a good friend of mine that i care a lot about

06:14:29.540 descend really, really close to that.

06:14:35.740 And it was a really tragic thing to see and to feel helpless to try to fix.

06:14:44.440 And I know a lot of people tried to help this guy.

06:14:47.840 And I hope that he's a member again someday.

06:14:52.220 I hope that he's doing really well.

06:14:55.200 But it's a very serious situation that you ask a question about.

06:14:59.540 And I hope that the AFA can help people who are in that situation come back to a healthy place.

06:15:09.400 And I hope that the AFA can help guys that are headed that direction be able to change course and find something better and something more healthy.

06:15:22.580 And I think that all of us, especially our go-thar, try to better ourselves and learn better ways to handle that situation to help guys that experience that.

06:15:38.600 because suicide, not just homelessness, but suicide is a massive, massive cause of death

06:15:51.100 of veterans in our country. And it's, it's very sad. And it's something that all too often we see

06:16:00.380 and specifically in the AFA, we see a lot of these kinds of struggles. So, you know, that's

06:16:07.040 a little bit of experience i've had just seeing it from where i've sat maybe swan has a different

06:16:14.160 perspective or something else to add on this swan i i think you really hit the nail on the head with

06:16:21.920 uh the the perception of economics versus the reality of mental uh health issues i think a lot

06:16:31.520 of um military men and and some women um who experience a lot of things that really do damage

06:16:41.760 them and they don't have the ability or the the ability within themselves to um reach out and

06:16:48.400 talk to people uh multiple people because it's not all just like oh i'm going to talk to this

06:16:53.040 uh god's already he's going to fix me it's not that you know you've got to talk to your go that

06:16:58.480 you got to talk, you know, you got to talk to, uh, perhaps a counselor or, uh, somebody who may

06:17:04.740 have had similar experiences and, um, and kind of build a mosaic of helping beneficial movements,

06:17:15.160 but ultimately boils down to whether or not you can truly open up within yourself. And I've met,

06:17:21.220 unfortunately i've met some people who can't shake that out um and it's sad because you want to you

06:17:29.780 want to help them especially even like the frustrating side for me is like i feel like i

06:17:35.780 have surpassed some of those barriers and relinquished a lot of problems and moved through

06:17:42.900 them and and laid them to rest and uh some people can't and you're like man i can do it i know you

06:17:49.940 can but they don't they don't believe it and then they don't and it leads them to uh hitting paths

06:17:57.860 that take them down different roads or they sometimes disappear into obscurity and that's

06:18:03.540 that's really one of the the worst ones but you sometimes it's it you cannot help someone who

06:18:09.940 isn't willing to admit that um they have a problem or if they have a problem that they have the

06:18:16.740 ability to to fix it if they are completely defeated within themselves sometimes they end up

06:18:24.980 um never relinquishing that that thorn that's constantly prodding them that that uh sliver or

06:18:33.220 that um that that crack that is always on the verge of being a crevasse in there in them and um

06:18:42.660 it's that's truly sad i think in we've seen it uh you and i both i was here ago they have

06:18:49.700 counseled and talked and or um have you know seen other gothar counsel and talk to

06:18:56.180 people who had experiences and some of them far more dire than mine and again it's it's really

06:19:02.580 about like it's the numbers it's the it's the weird it's the the way it flows and um so i can't

06:19:10.420 compare my experiences in direct correlation to theirs can only kind of parallel in in glance but

06:19:22.260 there's a lot of resources out there and a lot of people get in their head that those

06:19:28.820 resources are against them that they're going to get them locked up in jail or they're going to get

06:19:35.860 put on a list or and again that's a lot of that it's the paranoia um and that inner

06:19:42.660 inability to relinquish to allow themselves to heal and get into it get past it

06:19:52.820 the paranoia that thing you mentioned and this is one of the

06:20:00.420 saddest things in the the circumstance with the person that i mentioned earlier

06:20:05.860 his paranoia was angled and built in specifically to where every resource that's there to help him

06:20:18.860 fit into his delusions of things that were out to hurt him.

06:20:27.740 So it was particularly tragic because all of the resources that were there to make it better

06:20:35.660 fit very neatly in the paranoias and things in his head

06:20:42.420 that would make him run away from those resources.

06:20:48.400 That was really sad to see.

06:20:53.980 So Nick posted a thing at the bottom,

06:20:56.460 and I just want to throw this out there.

06:20:58.080 It's super late, guys.

06:20:59.760 I know that we're excited about setting records.

06:21:02.500 I'm all for setting a record if it happens.

06:21:05.660 We did it two weeks ago, but please do remember.

06:21:09.560 So it's 12-19 here.

06:21:13.360 It is 3-19 where Svon is.

06:21:17.920 It's 2-19 where Nick is.

06:21:22.360 Don't just ask random things to make us beat a record.

06:21:27.740 I get it if we're super close.

06:21:29.860 I mean, I'll go too.

06:21:31.320 If we get within 15 minutes or something, cool.

06:21:33.880 i'll i'll stay the course with set a record but realistically be be nice to our guests

06:21:40.760 it's easiest on me it's harder ones fun and nick um and i i just say that i'm happy to answer any

06:21:47.160 questions just don't ask just to keep us talking for a record please um the next thing is what is

06:21:58.680 your stance on marijuana for recreational use the afa has no stance on marijuana for recreational

06:22:07.160 use we do have a stance on obey the laws of where you're at um i think we need to specify

06:22:17.720 as for my personal stance i think we need to separate recreational use from

06:22:29.320 i don't know self-medicating abuse um if you just want to get high and whatever and 0.99

06:22:38.600 sit around eat cheetos with your buddy and watch and giggle at stupid things on tv i don't care 0.98

06:22:45.320 um as long as you're in control i don't care if you're using it as an escape 1.00

06:22:53.320 because you can't cope with life if you're if some horrible tragedy just happened to you and

06:23:03.260 you need to smoke something to get your mind right okay but when it becomes a habit and

06:23:10.220 something that is an addiction for you that you damage your family your relationship and your

06:23:17.540 standing for, then that's something that I disapprove of and have an issue with.

06:23:24.320 People use various things as a crutch to get by in a circumstance, but there's a circumstantial

06:23:30.580 fix and there's a lifestyle choice. And if you need to be high all the time to cope with your

06:23:37.240 existence, you need to address the underlying problem instead of escaping into an addiction

06:23:44.860 to something. And I think that's really important to specify. But I have no, you know, it's hard.

06:23:52.300 Folks, Svon and I are very close to the same age. Folks in our age bracket grew up, you know,

06:23:59.140 it's the devil's lettuce. It is a gateway drug that's going to lead you to all kind of craziness.

06:24:05.900 It might as well just be, you know, shooting heroin. It's not. We know better than that now.

06:24:13.560 And a lot of things on these kind of situations may be propaganda, a lot of medicinal things.

06:24:21.860 The question was about recreational use. I don't care, but I do care if it becomes an addiction and I do care if it becomes a detriment to your success in life or to your family.

06:24:39.740 and you know i don't i think that marijuana is less likely to do that than a lot of other

06:24:44.940 substances swan what are your what are your particular druthers on marijuana for recreational

06:24:52.060 use i think anything that has a a vast amount of um physical ability to change your body or mind

06:25:02.620 should be refocused into perhaps religious and uh ceremonial use of of seriousness so recreation is

06:25:15.260 the key word that i'm i'm looking at but people do seek recreation in in other things but i don't i

06:25:21.900 you know it's like i i don't drink except in bloat and ensemble and so i i'm already coming

06:25:29.100 at this from the i don't really do recreational anything i but i have you know like a my my

06:25:36.780 brother-in-law uh used to run a dispensary in colorado and i held a nerf ball size cluster from

06:25:44.140 a uh marijuana plant and he was like you know how much you're holding here i was like i have no idea

06:25:49.900 this is just like a thing and he was just like it blows my mind that you don't even conceptualize

06:25:55.820 like what that is or how much that is or anything i'm like no no idea whatsoever but um again it is

06:26:03.180 about the introspective or retrospective sense is this controlling my life am i utilizing this to

06:26:10.140 hide from things that i need to talk about i need to get out does it obstruct your ability to do

06:26:17.500 things things that you might be better at if you were clear of mind um can these substances be

06:26:24.540 utilized to create a a better understanding of of uh the divine and your place within it

06:26:33.980 if it was taken outside of the context of recreation and utilized in a sense of

06:26:40.780 understanding but again you know it's it's uh you know that in colorado that's legal

06:26:47.260 uh or you know and somewhere else it might not be so you know but is it necessary i don't think

06:26:51.820 is necessary at all you can do very much the same thing as far as altering your your mentality by

06:26:58.140 not sleeping no you know i one of the things that i think has created some of my ambivalence towards

06:27:08.540 it is it never worked for me um the times growing up that people tried to get me to smoke something

06:27:15.660 up in alaska i've just got i've been really fortunate so one i've got a high tolerance

06:27:22.300 for a lot of things but two i don't really have or i certainly don't feel like i have

06:27:27.900 an addictive personality so i can you know just screw around with something and it not

06:27:35.180 become destructive in an addictive way or at least as far as i know the things that i've i've

06:27:42.220 experienced um everybody wanted me to to smoke up in alaska because they grow their their good weed

06:27:50.940 out there in wasilla or whatever and the couple of times that i that i tried it growing up you

06:27:56.860 know as a young adult never did anything for me i got really hungry one time i ate a whole bunch of

06:28:03.340 kfc really sloppily um but that's about the most it ever really did um one time a friend of mine

06:28:13.500 came through and you know got some got some in a vape pen from a legal distillery and this is me

06:28:20.380 with my my old madness or whatever but you know i'm

06:28:26.940 so we were at one event and i had to drive my friend to go pick up some weed

06:28:32.780 and i'm like oh okay we're gonna go to some kind of shady apartment in a crappy part of town and

06:28:39.500 be looking no there's this pot store in oregon with big neon pot leaf and whatever and he went

06:28:48.220 in there and got whatever he needed to do but anyways a friend of mine came through town and

06:28:51.900 and recreational marijuana is legal here and he had a vape pen and he's like okay you know

06:29:00.140 you're gonna hit this with me or whatever okay fine so i did and man

06:29:08.780 it's an entirely different animal because they've got it all figured out now to where you can

06:29:14.700 you know consolidate it and like supercharge it in this vape pen it completely numbed everything

06:29:24.700 in my body to where it didn't really mess with my head but i'd have to like flex my mouth to

06:29:37.340 or to like move all of the muscles in my body stopped working

06:29:42.780 it was i was not prepared for the the potency now that it's gotten condensed and stuff

06:29:49.740 uh you know i believe there's a lot of medicinal uses that are probably very

06:29:54.700 very good and i've heard from a lot of people that's helped them um

06:30:01.740 there's a lot of stuff but don't whatever you're gonna do in your life

06:30:06.700 first the afa stance is do what's legal in your area secondly don't let it control you

06:30:16.060 if you are able to have fun and you can pick it up and put her down as you want

06:30:22.700 one thing that's very important in alsatruin that i believe

06:30:28.540 is that we should allow people within reason to be masters of their own destiny and to make adult

06:30:33.820 choices and to face adult consequences depending on how they make those choices

06:30:39.260 but um yeah i have no great you know i'm not a super straight edge guy when it comes to that i

06:30:46.860 i don't have a hard stance on that um the next question is what is your stance on pornography

06:30:54.620 and do you think addiction to it is a problem

06:30:57.260 I think we all get it, and I don't want to be hypocritical,

06:31:17.080 and I think that we all in society have some degree of consumption of it

06:31:23.880 over our lifetime one thing that i have seen a lot that is

06:31:30.040 unfortunate is since it's become so completely easily accessible

06:31:39.320 it's become part of an escapism that specifically white men fall into um rather than pursue

06:31:50.120 actual sexual relationships in their life be they're casual or serious

06:31:57.720 we have a generation of young men that are conditioned to receive

06:32:04.400 the dopamine and the response from

06:32:11.480 consuming pornography and things that go with that

06:32:17.840 that prevent them from going out and following that mating instinct to find a woman, to

06:32:28.460 make yourself worthy of being appealing to them, for them to put themselves in a sexual situation

06:32:37.420 with, and to, you know, not only to just start a family, but to build the self-confidence. One

06:32:44.700 thing that i think is is one of the biggest concerns about things um with men we have a

06:32:54.940 and i know things look different generationally it's

06:32:59.260 i didn't it snuck up on me but at 42 i have all these old man reflection back in my day

06:33:07.740 kind of things um but there's always been a conundrum especially with young men and confidence

06:33:18.460 women are really attracted to confidence and they're put off by and disgusted by a lack of

06:33:25.340 confidence well how do you build your confidence well you build your confidence by being successful

06:33:33.340 with the ladies it's quite a conundrum isn't it um and the more isolated young men have become

06:33:42.620 to where you don't have friends and a peer group to help you and to like oh let's double date hey

06:33:49.420 i know somebody i'm really social i'm really successful but hey what about my buddy over

06:33:53.980 here who's not you got a friend he can go out with instead of doing that we found a shortcut way that

06:34:05.180 young men can retreat within themselves and engage in a fantasy reality that gets them by

06:34:12.300 but isn't really satisfying in a in a deeper way

06:34:15.980 and it staves off their natural need to become the man they ought to be and we see that in so

06:34:27.100 many different ways that young men escape specifically young white men and i think

06:34:33.420 this is a particularly prevalent way in today's world of doing that um what are your thoughts on

06:34:41.660 this one i mean right out the gate if we if we're talking about the industry i think the industry is

06:34:48.140 abysmal i think that there's a lot of terrible stuff that is involved in that entire industry

06:34:54.460 when it when it's involved with um you know all the way down into the dark aspects of like

06:35:03.420 trafficking sexual trafficking trafficking of children i think it all is really there i think

06:35:09.900 that a lot of people that have always kind of said oh this is just you know wacko conspiracy

06:35:15.740 uh you know repressed christians shaking their fists and then like normal people kind of stumble

06:35:23.500 into it and they're like whoa what the hell is this all about and it turns out it's all

06:35:26.860 it's kind of true it's all there so the industry you know is abysmal and i think that uh the thing

06:35:34.460 that makes it even worse is they they kind of hailed it under the flag of like oh you know

06:35:39.500 people are repressed sexually and they need to have this as an ability to un-repress themselves

06:35:46.140 and it was so like a uh the the virtue flag and then underneath it is this seething pile of just

06:35:54.460 terribleness and evil um but more so on a cultural thing i think it's really affected uh

06:36:03.900 the generation of the 70s the 80s and the 90s and ongoing so really from like the 70s on

06:36:09.500 it really took a whole new precedent level of changing the way we interact with um

06:36:16.380 people intimately i think that like a lot of young people don't even consider the idea that

06:36:21.580 um to have sex means the possibility of being a parent and they don't even like equate that

06:36:28.380 that responsibility um and uh you know there's women have completely uh opened themselves up 0.97

06:36:37.980 and then thus kind of devaluing the sanctity of that responsibility and relationship with people

06:36:44.060 and i i can hear it now from the christian side of of of uh prudence to the uh the shrill

06:36:53.260 feminist saying you know about uh a woman having the ability to have you know her own sexual 1.00

06:36:59.740 partners or whatever somewhere in the middle is the point that there was a time where there was 1.00

06:37:04.860 kind of a socially understood way in which hey if you if you have intimate sexual relations with

06:37:10.940 someone you might be a parent and you better be ready for that and so you might want to take a

06:37:18.540 longer stride into the building a relationship with this person because the moment you go down

06:37:24.460 that road you guys could be tied for a long time and i think that gave a lot of people a sense of

06:37:32.060 the wisdom that's kind of just out the window now now it's like tinder and plenty of fish and i see

06:37:40.140 these young guys are just meeting people and they they really have very little care for their own

06:37:46.940 self-worth and they're meeting people on these sites that have no self-worth either and they're

06:37:52.700 just mishmashing that ugliness within themselves with this other person and then they leave

06:38:00.140 feeling no better or more you know what's worse in a way though is folks that don't

06:38:07.260 even go to that level and are incels and that are

06:38:16.780 handling things things themselves for lack of a better term and it goes with this next question

06:38:25.260 do you believe that addiction to social media is a big problem now one of the reasons that it is

06:38:32.620 and we saw this it was going this way in general but we saw it very

06:38:40.860 rapidly advanced during the coveted lockdowns

06:38:48.060 we had a generation of people that didn't know how to interact socially

06:38:55.260 that were becoming more and more isolated due to their social interaction being online and not in person.

06:39:04.900 And then we completely cut them off at the knees with all the COVID lockdowns.

06:39:12.860 And for some of us who are a little bit older, you know, locking everything down for two years is kind of a memory.

06:39:22.560 it was just two years but if those two years are your fundamental years where you're in high school

06:39:28.800 or for and you just got out when you're 21 22 those are really big years where you're forming

06:39:36.000 a lot of who you are socially um i don't want to get on a tangent on that because

06:39:43.360 i feel very strongly about it and i always have um but i see a phenomenon now that i don't

06:39:51.760 understand and i think that we you know laughingly call these people incels or whatever

06:39:59.040 but in our circles we see a whole lot of young guys that are good looking in shape

06:40:06.320 guys that in my day would have been very successful with the ladies would have been

06:40:12.560 you know jocks would have been awesome and it blows my mind that these guys are the biggest

06:40:20.160 nerds that exist like they live this existence where they don't know how to interact socially

06:40:30.160 and it it confuses me because these are good looking in shape young men that

06:40:37.200 like i said in the world that i grew up in would have been very very successful

06:40:42.880 with the ladies and instead they have no idea how to interact whatsoever

06:40:50.160 The rise of things like Tinder, and this is supported by statistics or whatever else, it hasn't, it's equaled, you know, more women passing it around, but it hasn't equaled more guys getting some.

06:41:07.600 Um, it's equaled the same guys that are very, very successful in getting a greater quantity

06:41:14.000 of the women, but it hasn't really enabled, um, the isolated guys that don't have that

06:41:21.940 ability to make those kinds of connections.

06:41:25.580 But with the social media, we see further and further, um, validation through dopamine

06:41:32.800 response and various other things of artificial existence. And we've seen this on a number of

06:41:40.160 things tonight when people talk about keyboard lawyers and whatever. You can be a real badass

06:41:47.640 online talking about whatever you're trying to talk about with a fake name and a fake picture

06:41:53.060 with your buddies, but you have no idea how to respond to real people in a real situation.

06:42:00.380 And the slightest hint of reality closing in is terrifying because a lot of life has been built in an online persona and not in a real way, in a tangible sense, with someone who you can look them in the eye and feel and see their response to what you do.

06:42:24.120 And I've seen that a lot amongst our folk.

06:42:28.120 I've talked to a lot of people who've joined the AFA or been in our circles and they're telling me about a friend of theirs.

06:42:34.420 So I said, cool, you know, what's guy's name?

06:42:37.660 Oh, well, they've been their friends for years.

06:42:39.540 They have no idea what his name is.

06:42:41.480 His name's, you know, cool dude, 72 at whatever.

06:42:49.000 I. They'll talk about their best friends and not know their real names because it's all in an online existence.

06:43:01.560 A lot of these guys talk to ladies on ladies and you can see my air quotes online.

06:43:10.140 They have no idea who they're talking to. I don't know their real name either.

06:43:15.300 um unfortunately i've seen a lot of our people be very stunted socially that way

06:43:23.620 and i'd like for our people especially our young men to break free of that

06:43:28.860 and reclaim a little bit of their birthright as being you know

06:43:33.820 decent looking in shape white men out in society trying to go for something successful

06:43:41.800 um i think it's hurt us a lot and but here's the thing i look at social media all day every day

06:43:51.360 part of my job is advertising and building the us true folk assembly and the tools at hand are

06:43:58.100 social media this that we're doing right now i'm going to take this and advertise it on every

06:44:04.280 social media source i can find and i'm going to accept i'm going to obsess over the likes and the

06:44:10.160 comments and all the little stuff and i'm going to share it around because that's how things work

06:44:17.520 and i don't fault that the world is what it is we can't pretend our should be like it was back

06:44:23.120 in my day that's not that's never been a winning attitude but putting things into perspective

06:44:31.280 is recognizing deficiency and challenging ourselves to confront it is

06:44:40.160 Social media is an amazing tool. And I'll tell you this right now. The AFA has grown tremendously

06:44:46.720 because of social media. Social media has allowed me personally to be far more efficient than I ever

06:44:55.540 could have been otherwise. It's allowed us to build our folk and our church and what we do

06:45:01.920 in ways that we never could have before. It is an amazing tool. It is also a very easy crutch

06:45:12.060 to help us limp along not living a life until life has passed us by.

06:45:19.580 I've ranted on this longer than I intended to. Svon, what are your thoughts?

06:45:25.280 Well, I mean, just going down the list, whether it's the question about marijuana,

06:45:29.420 the question about pornography or the question about social media in general and all of those

06:45:34.260 things I would say one thing is we could look to the application or the warning against mead

06:45:42.140 in the Havamal as a kind of overarching understanding that it's you know as in the

06:45:48.200 Havamal as Odin says even cows know when to go home from feeding it's never good to just to

06:45:54.020 overstay long in anything the idea really even though that seems kind of rustic and simple

06:45:59.180 the truth behind it is, you know, every man and woman should really have the wherewithal

06:46:07.340 to look at themselves and go, is this too much? Am I consuming too much? Am I utilizing this for

06:46:16.760 a crutch? Am I, you know, am I making my mentality not safe or conducive for myself,

06:46:24.560 or my family, my folk? Am I out of my mind when I shouldn't be? Is it unwise because I might not

06:46:32.820 be surrounded by people who have my best interests at heart? There's a lot to be said there that's

06:46:38.780 not being said because it requires us to really have those internal thoughts of thinking,

06:46:44.600 is this addictive? Am I turning into a Gollum troglodyte

06:46:53.120 seller dweller because I'm on the internet all the time. I need to go outside and go like take

06:46:59.740 a walk or, you know, go meet some people or, you know, things of that nature. It involves a lot of

06:47:06.160 that. And we should help each other too, um, by going out and doing things, having moots, meetups,

06:47:13.500 dinners, um, things that we, that people do that folk do to get out, to, to have those relationships.

06:47:21.340 relationships and it really also you know we got to consider our children are watching us

06:47:26.580 we got to um you know really they need to see us interacting with other men to understand how men

06:47:34.860 interact with each other they need to see us how we how we uh take care around the elderly they

06:47:40.460 need to see us when we're around members of the opposite sex they they get that from watching us

06:47:46.940 do that and if we don't do that that ends up isolating them even before they can isolate

06:47:52.220 themselves and so that applies to the consumption of alcohol or your children watching you drink

06:47:59.020 and you're just getting you know i'm a berserker and now your kids and your kids think this is okay

06:48:06.460 you know um tommy bring me my shoulder pelts you know that's not acceptable no um they uh

06:48:18.480 you really got to consider what you're doing in relation to your children if you have children

06:48:23.180 if you don't you need to think about success and and your success really is balanced by again your

06:48:30.640 confidence and your ability and your drive and it needs you need to find a mentor and you'll find

06:48:35.680 that mentor is going to treat you just like a parent would treat your kids. They're not going

06:48:39.580 to, you know, your mentor who's successful or driven is not going to be like, you know,

06:48:45.340 I, you know, I, I smoke a bowl every day and, and look at me, you know, it's like,

06:48:51.040 you're going to end up finding out these guys have a deep sense of control and a, and a moderate,

06:48:56.380 a moderation sense that's grounded in reality. It's grounded with, they're not going to, you

06:49:01.940 a lot of folks that you meet that are like you must abstain from everything and eat only rice

06:49:08.340 cakes and you know smack yourself with a whip flagellum style in the name of olvin those guys

06:49:16.740 too oftentimes are hiding their own issues and so you really want to find somebody who's grounded in

06:49:23.460 in the moderation and wisdom and has experienced possibly even overstepping again in the hava mall

06:49:29.620 all of those stanzas are spoken of from a point of I made this mistake don't do it like there's

06:49:37.660 a key to that too so don't let any of this really overtake you and you have to have that introspection

06:49:44.440 will any of you celebrate Hobbit day it's tomorrow the 22nd of September

06:49:52.660 a day which is the birthday of bilbo and frodo baggins from lord lord of the rings

06:50:00.500 which has been turned into a holiday in the real the real world hobbit day no i refuse 0.82

06:50:08.900 um that's silly and ridiculous secondly i really don't dislike hobbits um 0.95

06:50:17.620 what you don't dislike or you no i do they're gross um i 0.95

06:50:23.460 okay i wanted clarification no i did no i unequivocally hobbits are

06:50:30.580 have earned much of my displeasure i do not like them um

06:50:38.340 yeah i'm not a fan i think there's a lot to be said for a lot of things that tolkien writes um i

06:50:46.660 And if the story wasn't told through the perspective of hobbits who I think are inherently fat, lazy, non-heroic, you know, nothings, I would like it better.

06:51:05.940 It's not really told from the perspective of the hero.

06:51:08.700 It's like the reluctant, you know, lame-o becoming great for a moment or whatever.

06:51:15.180 And that's not really a theme that I embrace.

06:51:19.700 But, no, I will not do that.

06:51:21.780 I'm sure that there are a number of people listening to this who will.

06:51:26.060 And I hope you guys have a fun day tomorrow.

06:51:27.880 What about you, Swan?

06:51:29.320 Celebrating Hobbit Day tomorrow?

06:51:31.140 I did not know that was coming.

06:51:34.180 I, I enjoy, um, you know, fantasy fiction and I've read a lot, uh, growing up as a kid in the

06:51:41.740 eighties, I grew up in the, um, in the days of like, you know, uh, satanic panic around

06:51:47.660 Dungeons and Dragons and, and so on and so forth. Uh, you know, and reading, um, like, uh, Dragon

06:51:53.560 Lance was a big one for me as a kid. Um, I of course did get into the runes because of, uh,

06:52:00.960 Tolkien and The Hobbit. And I still remember the book and having all the runes written around the

06:52:06.960 edges and just being kind of like drawn to it. And I remember the musical, the 70s kind of odd

06:52:14.220 musical. But seeing, you know, Gandalf in that animated musical, kind of the wandering

06:52:30.040 gray wizard you know it's as a kid i really really enjoyed it for what it was as i got

06:52:35.880 older i kind of understood a little bit more about the the uh inspirations of the roharim

06:52:41.160 and and the anglo-saxons and um you know but slowly watching like even the elves the elves

06:52:48.760 of tolkien were in the books just such badasses and they've kind of been turned into like

06:52:55.800 valenciaga models over time like how deep can they suck in their cheeks um they uh they

06:53:05.400 i don't know i i uh i enjoy it for what it is and i i enjoyed the movies when they came out

06:53:11.400 i watched them but i'm not super super super strong uh to the point where i'm gonna i celebrate

06:53:19.320 like uh you know like may the fourth be with you the star wars uh thing like i don't i don't really

06:53:26.040 do that i i know a lot of i grew up i actually i was able to go see the uh episode six in the

06:53:33.080 theaters i'm that old like i remember it remember watching it my brother's being super upset that

06:53:38.280 ewoks were even a thing um but i it's it's fun and some in some ways it helps me kind of bond

06:53:46.680 with my son in relation to he loves lord of the rings which is really cool in the sense that you

06:53:52.760 know he likes it for that but i also try to tell him like oh these guys are based off the anglo

06:53:57.320 saxons and you know that's these people were you know that beowulf and then the interest in language

06:54:02.840 clearly you know um is huge uh but at the same time too there's a lot of other things that are

06:54:09.800 involved with with that that i i you know um c.s lewis and and uh tolkien and their their drives

06:54:18.200 and catholicism and christianity and you know christians tout that a lot and uh that's kind

06:54:23.240 of tiresome at times but um yeah not i didn't even know but so i i would encourage everyone

06:54:34.680 when they are done listening to this broadcast to look up the ballot of bilbo baggins by leonard

06:54:41.640 nimoy if you have not watched that youtube video you should it is hilarious um

06:54:51.400 yeah do yourself a favor um i've never seen it wait i invite you to watch it as well

06:54:59.480 i'm gonna watch it as soon as so our next question is thoughts on the alpha male archetype

06:55:09.400 and how real men should have sex with multiple women as a way to prove themselves and assert

06:55:15.320 dominance um c-shaped now like when i when i hear that and see that i don't hear that and see that 0.95

06:55:27.160 from actual alpha male dudes that have the option of having sex with lots of women 0.67

06:55:34.360 i hear that from dudes in mom's basement that have never known the touch of a woman um 0.99

06:55:41.880 i think that's silly and i think it's silly on the face of it 0.96

06:55:48.760 i think it's like the white sharia now guys or whatever there's a lot of 0.95

06:55:57.160 there's a lot of dysfunction that comes from folks that are in the basement and not out

06:56:05.960 living life and trying to make stuff happen um i think as long as you're trying to be someone

06:56:14.820 you're not and trying to strive for something that you're not and that is silly then you're

06:56:24.180 kind of destined to not have success at it i think going out and in this okay so at this time of night

06:56:34.340 i tend to get a little bit short with my answers and a little bit humorous slash insulting on them

06:56:42.140 and i don't mean to i mean i do mean to because it's funny and it gets a laugh but seriously um

06:56:49.280 your first step between being 0.91

06:56:58.960 a loser to being like super alpha male with all the ladies has a harem and he's like the king 0.96

06:57:11.920 of the wasteland i don't it doesn't work like that and as long as that's your paradigm you're 0.90

06:57:18.740 be frustrated and a lack of success having a realistic assessment of who you are and where

06:57:26.980 you're at and then incrementally trying to make that closer to what you would like to be is a much

06:57:34.100 better way to do things if you present yourself to the world in a way that's fake it's very easy

06:57:43.380 to spot fakeness and to deflate it if your sense of self-worth is based on reality

06:57:53.380 people can't take reality from you and this may not seem related and it's late so

06:57:58.980 maybe i'm a little bit loopy i don't think so i used to work with um emotionally disturbed children

06:58:06.180 And the the super liberal crowd was trying to get us to, you know, all these participation trophies and nonsense.

06:58:18.460 Those aren't real. And if you build a facade of how you see yourself on things that aren't real or tangible.

06:58:27.640 It can be swept away by anyone who flexes any reality on you.

06:58:34.100 but things that are real accomplishments and real truths can't be taken away.

06:58:42.060 These kids had a lot of stress in their life and a lot of really terrible things that happened to them.

06:58:47.560 But if they had an accomplishment, a real accomplishment,

06:58:51.420 no matter what abuse they faced, they still have that. 0.99

06:58:55.240 Something stupid like, hey, I won this spelling bee in class. 0.99

06:59:00.140 cool no matter what anyone else did to you or does to you on you know september the 21st 2023 0.99

06:59:11.160 you were the best speller in your class nothing i do can make that not be true so you can hold

06:59:20.960 on to that if you thump your chest and pretend you're some awesome he-man barbarian with your

06:59:28.500 you know, harem of ladies. But joking aside, that identity is false and it's easy to break.

06:59:43.460 If you go from I am I have zero courage to I am the most courageous person in the world.

06:59:50.700 Well, that's BS. And anybody can knock that down. But if you're like, hey, I went from zero courage

06:59:55.660 And I have a little bit of courage today. Cool. Maybe you do. Maybe you have a little bit more tomorrow.

07:00:03.640 You know, I think that people set them up to fail when they because the people that I've seen that that harp on the silly alpha male archetype are the guys.

07:00:19.900 it's not really relevant to. Unfortunately, it's guys that aren't out there in the arena doing

07:00:26.900 anything. It's just people being mad the world's not the way that their comic book told them it's

07:00:35.720 supposed to be. And instead of working with what they have, they get mad that they don't have what

07:00:42.580 they feel they're entitled to. And I've seen that manifest in really, really negative ways.

07:00:49.900 One thing that I've seen is very low social value guys build up a lot of anger and find a woman with extremely low self-esteem and be abusive to her as a fulfillment of their alpha male fantasy that they think the world should be like.

07:01:19.900 And it's toxic on all ends.

07:01:21.880 And I've seen that happen a lot.

07:01:30.240 Pretending to be some silly version of what you think men should be like only highlights the distance between your understanding and what a real grown man's understanding is.

07:01:48.500 None of this is directed insultingly at the person who asked the question.

07:01:52.060 Please don't take it that way.

07:01:55.480 This is more for people who are listening.

07:02:01.480 One reason this becomes extra problematic is because we are currently living in a time where there's far too few fathers in the home raising their sons.

07:02:13.540 And so we have a lot of men for a number of generations now that don't have a consistent male role model to help them understand what actual successful masculinity looks like in a relationship, in a marriage, in a family, in a social context.

07:02:37.540 And, you know, we're also in a culture that while masculinity for white men is toxic, hyper masculinity and this kind of absurd masculinity is celebrated amongst other groups of people.

07:03:00.260 So we get really mixed messages on how that's supposed to work out.

07:03:05.900 And I think that it confuses our women.

07:03:08.600 And I know that it confuses our young men.

07:03:16.680 So, yeah, I think that being you, but the version of you that has the courage to go out in the world

07:03:28.620 and, you know, roll the dice, that's, that's the best way for you to go instead of trying to live 0.58

07:03:39.240 up to a silly Hollywood version of a male archetype. Be you and go out in the world and 0.69

07:03:51.920 roll the dice and see what happens learn from your successes but even more so learn from your

07:03:58.680 failures and and build an authentic character instead of pretending to be someone that you're

07:04:05.740 not uh what are your thoughts fun i think the the biggest thing and i i'm speaking from just my own

07:04:13.440 personal view of a lot of this is is that no amount of advancement towards uh the the uh

07:04:21.680 strengthening of your character is built without you completely considering

07:04:27.420 your value in relation to yourself and then upping that value in relation to others

07:04:36.000 um i've never understood that i think a lot of people project out they if they make a lot of

07:04:43.820 money if they drive a certain car if they have you know a lot of uh girlfriends or uh not even

07:04:49.740 girlfriends, just conquests. They feel like this value somehow kind of ups them. They're not

07:04:57.720 actually making any true value of themselves. And I think that requires a lot of introspection and

07:05:04.720 placing upon oneself duty to make oneself better. So if you go through and you look at yourself and

07:05:15.320 seek that validation from yourself, not from others. That's the first stance towards that.

07:05:23.260 Cause you'll meet people who will try to undercut you, uh, and sit, you know, cause they're,

07:05:28.300 they want to prove to you that they're maybe more masculine than you, or you just, you're not in the

07:05:33.580 right. No, you don't have the right car. You don't have to make enough money. All that stuff is

07:05:37.460 completely pointless the you will build that slow and steady gradual um forward movement and

07:05:47.920 oftentimes the best way is you're not even realizing it you know at a certain point um

07:05:54.240 you meet people that might try to undercut you or jab at your ego but you've been through so much of

07:06:00.080 your own self-development they can't really touch you and then at a certain point you can't even

07:06:06.000 touch yourself. Like, as far as like, you can't damage your own progress because you're so much

07:06:11.320 in the mode of taking on those responsibilities and seeking to become better and becomes

07:06:16.580 internalized. And so, you know, like a perfect example, we had a jujitsu moot and I'm getting

07:06:23.420 older and we got a younger member who was really good. This is what he does for a living. And we

07:06:30.600 started rolling around and i solidly got my ass served like i was just getting wrecked all over 0.97

07:06:39.320 and the whole time i never thought about failure and i never thought about uh my own uh shortcomings 0.89

07:06:47.480 in in the in the bouts but instead thought here's somebody who's got he has information that can

07:06:54.520 make me better so then my i would be a fool to not start asking questions immediately

07:07:01.160 how do i do this what makes me better at this how can i do that and then you know we started to go

07:07:06.600 over it and it became all about improving this and reconstituting my self and it wasn't about

07:07:17.640 defeatism it wasn't about being old it wasn't about you know getting wrecked and and and having

07:07:23.560 to tap out it became about improving and if you have that in you uh if that's cultivated in you

07:07:31.080 sometimes people get it when they're young other times like even myself i was very kind of confused

07:07:36.520 as a young man but the marine corps fostered a lot of that understanding of like that constant

07:07:42.120 application of duty and bettering yourself and never never letting it's not about letting other

07:07:47.400 people see you not get tired no it's about me seeing myself not get tired like i'm not going

07:07:52.440 to give that to myself a lot of that internalization um is really you know what what builds you up

07:08:03.160 don't allow yourself that uh that slip so you build upon yourself and after a while that carries

07:08:11.080 its own gravity so you can't hit you can't hit yourself down you can't knock yourself down others

07:08:17.400 can't knock you down and you start interacting with them with a clarity that that garners

07:08:24.680 you know whatever form of modicum of of respect from others and that's truly what creates that

07:08:31.640 confidence level and i think young men don't have that i didn't have that when i was a teenager

07:08:36.520 um i was able to be a sociable person and everyone's friend um but over time i i began

07:08:45.400 to realize that that doesn't always bear good fruit either and you know you end up getting run

07:08:51.000 over or you end up getting you know just forgot about so internalizing a lot of your own duties

07:08:58.760 and challenging yourself creates a self-worth that like you said based in reality it can't

07:09:04.600 be taken away from you and whether that manifests in success in business whether that manifests in

07:09:11.000 the mastery of a craft whether that manifests in lots of money or just enough money to make

07:09:16.280 sure that you're living well and comfortable so that you can focus on things that truly matter to

07:09:20.680 you people will pick up on that and they will absolutely gravitate towards you on it they'll

07:09:26.520 respect you for it wherever you're at because you're solidly and consistently presenting that

07:09:32.840 out there it's it's it's not about my value to others it's about my value to myself and as long

07:09:39.080 as i'm i'm uh always willing to try to be better to myself then that follows with everyone else

07:09:47.000 that's the only thing i can really give advice to young men

07:09:52.600 so we got an interesting side chat going on swan yeah i saw the uh accompanied by a very

07:09:58.840 interesting quote from yourself you gotta say i chuckled internally when i heard it

07:10:04.520 apparently if we know what i mean we will we will all become midgets with the little t-rex arms um

07:10:15.720 no just think on it for a second it's all good because they they can't either um

07:10:24.280 you can't even

07:10:24.920 yeah your your own inner demons you can't work out physics it just yeah um

07:10:37.240 matt and swan have you ever played the japanese role-playing game series final fantasy

07:10:43.160 swan have you ever played final fantasy no i'm i'm familiar with it i've had friends i remember in in

07:10:48.920 uh in high school uh so i don't even know what number it is i know they're they're way up there

07:10:55.080 um as a it's a video game and uh but i've never played it myself um and it seems to be like every

07:11:02.040 version is like a totally different story but it all has the same title so i i can't make heads or

07:11:07.640 tails of it um but i know there's people that have a big fandom for it um just i never uh

07:11:15.160 uh, I, I, I, I gamed a lot when I was younger and then I got out of it. And then when I was

07:11:21.580 working as a, um, I was a, I was a fracker and a welder for, uh, uh, water pump systems for

07:11:30.780 drilling. And I'm talking like just millions of gallons of water going through these pipes at

07:11:36.520 thousands of pounds of pressure. And, um, you know, if it popped, it could cut somebody in

07:11:42.380 half kind of stuff. And, uh, we were living like out in West Virginia in the middle of nowhere.

07:11:47.920 And, uh, so I got back into gaming and, um, as a way to just kind of fill time and not,

07:11:53.100 you know, blow all my money, um, boozing. And, um, not that I didn't back then, but

07:12:00.080 it helped a lot keeping that money in my pocket. So I, um, you know, I, I did start into gaming

07:12:07.740 as far as like that was like 2014-ish 2015 um but i'm not super familiar with with that uh game at all

07:12:24.060 i played one of them and in this when swan was talking about the midget arms and not being able

07:12:31.660 to touch yourself i uh was trying to constantly say that which you know that happened it happened

07:12:37.980 it's quoted in the side chat um i tried to think of which one i played and i don't remember my

07:12:46.780 friend really liked it let me borrow it and i played it on the sega genesis so it was one of

07:12:54.060 the early ones way back yonder there was another similar and i think probably a rip-off game called

07:13:02.060 shining force there was shining force one and shining force two and i played those

07:13:08.220 and uh for whatever it's worth that was back in junior high that would have been

07:13:14.380 94 95. i remember one of my co-workers telling me about skyrim he's like have you ever played

07:13:20.860 skyrim and i said no he's like you were born in skyrim and sure enough the scene he shows

07:13:26.380 me it looks like gulafoss in iceland they actually i think they might have done that

07:13:32.380 where they like rebuilt it or whatever and that was my first introduction back into like

07:13:38.860 games was playing that while i was in between 14 hour shifts of welding and water pump maintenance

07:13:47.100 so all right our uh our next question

07:13:56.540 um

07:14:00.780 matt what was it like growing up in alaska from the pictures i see online it seems very desolate

07:14:06.780 even the cities i think that's

07:14:13.820 there's there's two different alaskas um there's the city as i was born and raised in anchorage

07:14:21.820 anchorage is a big city when i left anchorage was and i left alaska in 2014 anchorage was

07:14:30.380 400 000 people or so i mean it's a pretty big city um

07:14:41.820 but i got to it didn't

07:14:47.420 didn't take long until you were in that other part of alaska so i was really lucky growing up

07:14:53.660 i got to spend a lot of time with my cousins up in fairbanks and uh my uncle had a cabin

07:15:00.060 way out on harding lake which seemed like it was in the middle of nowhere it's civilization has

07:15:05.740 creeped up a little bit now but i'd go up there during you know breaks during the school year

07:15:11.900 during winter break during spring break whatnot and um got to do a lot of hunting and fish i say

07:15:19.980 a lot of i got to do hunting and fishing and stuff up there ice fishing and things i gotta run my

07:15:26.700 cousin's trap line with him when it was negative 60 that was kind of cool um

07:15:36.620 down toward in in anchorage growing up my grandparents my grandfather and my grandmother

07:15:41.900 were really good fly fishers so i would go down we had a lot on the kenai river and the kenai

07:15:49.420 river is one of the most amazing salmon fisheries in the world and we fly fish for for uh mostly for

07:15:58.220 red salmon down there and that was awesome i miss salmon a lot salmon anywhere else seems kind of

07:16:06.620 silly it's white with a vaguely pink tint to it and it's not very flavorful um i also would uh

07:16:17.580 dip net for salmon in the copper river um but copper river reds or kenai river reds

07:16:25.260 that the meat was very red and it just it had a taste and it was it was awesome

07:16:32.060 and it was the best salmon in the world um

07:16:39.420 it was neat because you got to experience all the seasons and it got really cold in the winter i

07:16:45.660 remember a lot as a kid i'd go out and the second you go out so you'd take a shower whatever you'd

07:16:51.660 run out with your hair still wet getting ready to go to school and it would immediately crisp up and

07:16:56.540 freeze or you'd run out and immediately your nose hairs would freeze on you and that was kind of

07:17:03.420 i don't know interesting it was a lot of fun um you know even the little bit i got to do and it

07:17:13.260 i could sit here and pretend i was this great outdoorsman i wasn't but i got to experience a

07:17:18.060 lot of that i got to go hiking and hunting and fishing and camping and get out in the woods

07:17:23.660 and it's just different up there since i've been down in the lower 48 you go on any hike anywhere

07:17:29.580 pretty much any time you run into people um you know even if it's not a lot of people you run into

07:17:36.380 other people. It's very easy to get to where you don't see another person until you come back from

07:17:43.840 your hike up there. So you could get out in the middle of nowhere very quickly. And I got to see

07:17:50.920 a lot of really cool stuff and experience a lot of really neat stuff as a kid. Got to see the

07:17:58.140 Northern Lights fairly regularly. You go up north towards Fairbanks, especially on that cabin I

07:18:03.940 mention out in Harding Lake and you can, so that was kind of my adventures in, in dark, no man's

07:18:15.020 land, middle of nowhere wilderness. Alaska was up there with my cousins and there'd be times,

07:18:22.140 and I forget how old we were, but I mean, we were in high school or something, maybe freshman,

07:18:27.680 I don't know, maybe in junior high, but my cousin, my cousin David and I, we'd go out there.

07:18:32.060 we could spend you know a few days out there all by ourself and that was kind of cool we'd be out

07:18:38.420 in this cabin and had electricity but um you know it wasn't it was heated by wood stove so we'd have

07:18:46.020 to keep the wood stove going to heat it up um for water we had this big trash can that we'd go out

07:18:52.840 in the middle of the lake and dig a hole and dredge up you know water from under the ice

07:18:58.400 to fill up this trash can, and that was our source of water.

07:19:06.120 We'd go on the snow machine out there in the middle of the lake,

07:19:08.500 and we'd set up these, we'd go ice fish, so we'd auger these holes out.

07:19:13.180 We'd set up these tip-ups, they were called.

07:19:17.600 I don't know what you call them other places, but they were basically,

07:19:21.380 when the fish would pull on the line, it would have a little flag that would pop up

07:19:25.740 or a little light at nighttime that would pop up so you could see it from the cabin where we're

07:19:31.140 looking we could go out there and and get it and get the fish or whatever we'd fish for pike and

07:19:37.220 burbot and whatever else out there sometimes we'd go out with a little 410 shotgun and hunt

07:19:44.420 ptarmigan or rabbit or grouse or whatever else small game and you know we could go out there

07:19:51.300 for like a week and live off the land and that was a really really neat experience i don't think a

07:19:57.220 lot of kids get these days and that was kind of cool growing up um it's just neat being out there

07:20:04.660 and being part of it it would be so dark it would get like i mentioned earlier you'd get negative 60

07:20:11.060 and uh you go out in the middle of that lake and you lay on the back of the snow machine and you

07:20:16.420 look up and you could see forever because there was no other ambient light around. You could just,

07:20:22.540 you could see galaxies, you could see forever. And you'd see the northern lights and they would

07:20:28.020 just dance and you'd get really dramatic green. Green's easy to come by, but you were up far

07:20:33.720 enough north, you'd get a little bit of pinks here and there. And that was really special when

07:20:38.280 you'd see a little bit of pink. Um, it was also cool up around there in Fairbanks. Um,

07:20:46.240 there was a place called Chena hot springs. It was hot springs a little ways out of like an hour

07:20:51.860 outside of town, but you could be out there in the hot springs, like in this awesome hot, you know,

07:20:58.500 you're basically in a hot tub out there in these hot springs, but there's snow and ice all around

07:21:05.260 you and it's negative degrees. So your breath and everything coming off the hot springs is just

07:21:10.580 instantly, you know, that fog of, of, you know, basically seeing your breath, you'd see the hot

07:21:19.200 air and you look up and it's snowing on you, or you'd see the Northern lights and it'd be,

07:21:25.500 it'd be ridiculous because it's, you're sitting in this hot spring while you're getting snowed on

07:21:30.300 or it, that was really cool growing up. So I, it was neat. It was really special. It was kind of

07:21:37.080 a, I think it's something a lot of people don't get to experience. I get, I got to have all the

07:21:43.600 normal things of a city existence you would want, but I also got to experience

07:21:49.740 a little bit of that wildness, a little bit of that, that other that I think a lot of people

07:21:55.040 don't get um but yeah i think that's our last question for the evening thank you guys so much

07:22:06.380 for all your amazing questions um thank you swan for imparting your wisdom on us again i appreciate

07:22:14.300 seriously your linguistic skills with these things is uh very unique and it comes in really handy

07:22:22.000 And I appreciate you being here tonight. It's fun.

07:22:27.600 Everybody check out the Ballad of Bilbo Baggins by Leonard Nimoy.

07:22:32.680 I think it's worth doing.

07:22:36.000 And until next time, hail the gods, hail the folk, hail the AFA.

07:22:42.500 Remember, victory never sleeps.

07:22:52.000 Thank you.

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Asatru Folk Assembly - September 21, 2023

9⧸20⧸23 Victory Never Sleeps, Episode 63 - ᛇᛈᛉ

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