Asatru Folk Assembly - 9⧸24⧸25 Victory Never Sleeps, Episode 168 - Parenting

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00:03:00.000 hello and welcome to this week's edition of victory never sleeps and it's that time of

00:03:14.520 the month again no not that time it is uh time for adulting with alan um this week alan is going

00:03:22.860 to tell us how to properly position his camera no today we're going to talk about parenting

00:03:29.120 And I think it's, it is a topic that there's a lot of different angles to, but is really important and I think hits home with a great many of us.

00:03:47.000 And it's a topic that a lot of people frequently have questions about or wonder about.

00:03:53.220 So I'm looking forward to this one.

00:03:55.200 think it's definitely something important and hopefully you guys will all enjoy it um

00:04:04.880 so this week is starting out as usual with gw farnsworth donating 25 to vns and 50 to phrase

00:04:17.520 off speaking of which i have news there is news

00:04:26.400 so um i have been kind of teasing it for a few weeks now and disclosing as much as the other guy

00:04:36.400 on the screen would would uh let me do without haranguing so trying to trying to do it responsibly 0.67

00:04:43.760 But now I have the tremendous honor of announcing to all of you, we now have Frazehoff, the fifth Hoff of the Oustru Folk Assembly.

00:04:54.920 it is a lovely building on a lovely property and i have every confidence that it is going to

00:05:09.640 to the best of our ability honor lord frayer and

00:05:16.200 accelerate our gifting and our relationship with him in a way that that hopefully he finds

00:05:24.780 very pleasing. But yeah, a lot of, you know, as you guys know, your generosity is what

00:05:33.840 makes these kind of things possible. I know I come at you every week with a handout. It's

00:05:40.460 for stuff like this. We have had people trying to make this a reality for a very long time.

00:05:50.500 We have had literally hundreds of people hoping and dreaming on this, and I am so glad that

00:05:57.620 it is finally there, it is real, it exists, and I am looking forward to seeing it and

00:06:04.000 to celebrating it and to worshiping Lord Freire there for decades to come with my AFA family.

00:06:12.960 So there you have it.

00:06:16.460 It is in Ohio.

00:06:18.300 It is in Austintown, Ohio.

00:06:22.640 It's on a lovely piece of property and yeah, thank you guys for everything that you've

00:06:29.800 done to make that possible and to support the progress all along the way.

00:06:37.340 And we appreciate you guys very much.

00:06:41.160 And a special thank you to the finder of the property, I was going to let you do it.

00:06:51.160 No, go for it.

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00:06:55.520 Cliff Erickson and his beautiful wife, Katie, and their family found this property, went

00:07:01.700 in and inspected it, made sure that it was right and fitting for Lord Freyer and for

00:07:07.320 behalf that they will grasp the reins of and make into something wonderful. So congratulations Cliff

00:07:17.380 and Katie and to all the folks in the northeast region for this beautiful wonderful property and

00:07:26.420 to all of us who have contributed and stood their part in the shield wall while we made this into a

00:07:35.180 reality absolutely we've had um the number of people who have really been champions on doing

00:07:45.980 this this has definitely been a team effort to get where we were going on it um i know it's been

00:07:54.620 kind of a long road because it took it's hard because when we talk about you know the build

00:08:01.500 up to the next Hoff there's all of the paying down and eventually paying off of New York's Hoff

00:08:10.460 and then finding a place and then finding a lender this is also made possible by a very special

00:08:18.860 donor who wants to remain anonymous in the Odens Hoff district that was able to lend us the money

00:08:27.340 for for this half so we are very appreciative of him and his tremendous trust and generosity in

00:08:35.340 doing that and uh yeah we excited isn't quite the word for it um but take that and multiply it

00:08:44.460 exponentially so i'm excited to share that with you guys this evening and uh yeah there you go

00:08:51.260 there you have it i'm sure you know any questions you guys might have we may or may not know the

00:08:55.740 answers to them but we're happy to take a shot at them uh as always our show is um

00:09:03.740 heavily question and answer driven so if you guys have questions let us know and if you have

00:09:08.620 questions at any time throughout the week vns at runestone.org and we'll make sure to get them on

00:09:16.380 the show we have a couple of those a couple two three of those we've had uh emailed in that we'll

00:09:21.740 answer today um when it's not knowing the answer ever slowed us down ah it's just a bump in the

00:09:27.740 road it's a minor we don't we don't let that deter us so might as well throw it out there uh we are

00:09:33.740 raising money now to pay off phrase off um if you want to donate to that effort donated link is on

00:09:41.100 the board we have uh so we don't have the fancy uh thermometer up yet to show you all the stuff

00:09:53.260 but um we are 125 000 of which we are 19 060 towards that goal so you guys are awesome

00:10:05.660 We are impressed. We're humbled. We are appreciative. That said, law speaker, tell us about parenting.

00:10:13.560 parenting i wow um parent where to begin um first i'll say i'm the proud father of three

00:10:26.500 beautiful children um who are uh luckily alternatively pains in the neck and rarely

00:10:34.280 all at one time um now 30 27 25 although they never get all the way off the payroll somehow

00:10:41.780 So when I think of this, like the framework of parenting, one of the things that when I frame our, the AFA, and our, what is to me a radical traditionalist approach to life and the universe and everything. 0.90

00:11:09.540 Um, the way I always tend to frame that when I, when I'm watching modern culture, um, and I see a lady female in some, you know, in position of society is like, why shouldn't women work? 0.87

00:11:30.380 Right. But for the I don't know, that's become the modern standard. 0.97

00:11:38.380 And it's not that they're not qualified and that they're not equal in many ways to what men can do.

00:11:46.100 But the most important thing and the job that has gone undone in Western civilization for 60 or 70 or 80 years now is the job of rearing children. 0.79

00:11:59.740 If you think about the way that an intact society raises its children, where all the neighbors know each other and the women are home sort of supervising. 0.79

00:12:13.260 And I know that's an old-fashioned way of looking at things, but I'm an old-fashioned guy. 0.98

00:12:17.980 You can take the fashion out of it, and it would still be true.

00:12:20.340 But the most important thing that we can do is to give our children a right view and a right raising so that when they are old enough to flee the nest, that they are making good decisions, that they have a good, intact, resilient personality.

00:12:47.540 so that when they are assailed by the winds of modern, what would one use, 0.93

00:12:56.700 the modern zeitgeist that opposes us in so many ways that they are able to stand firm against the tide of incredible idiocy that seems to reign supreme out there. 0.98

00:13:12.700 So along that line, I mean, I. Where to begin the certainly I can say that I made mistakes coming up, there's stuff I would do different.

00:13:28.200 There's a lot of stuff that I did that I would do the same. You know, a couple of, you know, I guess we can start with just like sort of a few pointers and generalizations.

00:13:39.200 um like for me i'm a big fan and a big advocate of attachment parenting um as the you know there's

00:13:50.060 that that was there was a i think it's a husband and wife couple the dr sears

00:13:56.480 um approach to that um they were the advocates maybe the first strong advocates of attachment

00:14:03.500 parenting which you know it sounds like some great modern innovation or whatever but i mean

00:14:08.520 If you look back just a couple hundred years before the Western canon tried to systematize child rearing, that's what everybody did. That was just the way that kids were raised. The child was always with you.

00:14:26.080 um i you know we did co-sleeping with our kids i think that's a big benefit um

00:14:36.700 i think a lot of the the psychological issues that come around with kids now are from early

00:14:46.380 issues that um you know where the doctors tell you you know let him pry it out let you know

00:14:52.700 don't pick him up always terrible advice i think i'm not a psychologist just a

00:15:00.940 guy who's been observing what's been going wrong with western civilization since i was

00:15:05.420 old enough to notice um you know

00:15:13.100 first of all i don't think you know the the thing about people parents young parents um

00:15:20.140 don't have a lot of guidance i don't think um i think too often we're live we live in this atomized

00:15:29.580 universe where the um you know the parents are over you know the grandparents are over here and

00:15:35.420 the parents are over here maybe in different cities um you know because you've been moved

00:15:39.900 you've moved two or three times trying to chase a job and there's not a good support network out

00:15:44.380 there i mean there's all sorts of chaos that contributes to um the stress that young parents

00:15:53.820 rightly feel um they're afraid they're going to make mistakes guess what you are um and but for

00:16:00.540 the most part if you are if you have good intentions and act in good faith you're going to get it

00:16:08.140 right most of the time most of the way and that's i think the best that anybody can hope for i think 0.93

00:16:13.020 So if there was one thing that I would ask parents and young parents to be, first of all, I would encourage the reproduction of healthy white children, or at least practicing the attempt. 0.96

00:16:31.600 In addition, I think if you act in good faith and consciously and mindfully, then you're going to get it right most of the time. 0.96

00:16:43.020 And beyond that, I mean, there are lots of fine points that I could go into about my experience and, you know, what went right and what went wrong.

00:16:53.800 You know, certainly one of the things that I think is very important, and I'm encouraged to see the vast majority.

00:17:01.360 First of all, let me say, you know, the vast majority of the children that we interact with, certainly at Nordhoff and when I go to other Hoffs, the kids are so normal, you know, and so well adjusted.

00:17:19.920 You know, it's so encouraging to see our kids.

00:17:25.560 Our kids are the normal ones, right?

00:17:27.860 And, you know, the whiny, neurotic kid, that's like all the other normies out there that are following this terrible advice from decades of arguably well-intentioned but misdirected Western child-rearing technique.

00:17:49.920 Where, you know, I can, you know, look back at the journals that my mother kept when I was an infant and, you know, start me on solid food at day three, terrible mistake, you know, baby should be nursed and blah, blah, blah.

00:18:06.780 So, you know, we have all that. Long before I became a parent, I guess when I was first starting the path back toward something that looks like a traditionalist viewpoint on life,

00:18:21.840 I read about the struggle that especially Germanic parents, and that's the Aryan parents, have because we try to raise our children in a way that they are mostly compliant, mostly obedient, but without breaking their spirit. 0.70

00:18:47.580 And that's a delicate balance because it's easy to, you know, to beat them down, browbeat them, literally beat them. 0.99

00:19:03.640 That's a terrible idea, you know, until they lose their own personality.

00:19:08.760 And yes, they will do exactly what you say out of fear and cowering, but then they will become terrible adults.

00:19:18.540 And I think that's a lot of the issue that we see in some of the other civilizations that we interact with.

00:19:29.800 That's the way they raise their kids to be totally subservient.

00:19:34.080 And it's a delicate balance because, you know, you have to raise your kids to do what you say most of the time.

00:19:42.500 You know, you'd have to tolerate some questioning. And I hear it over and over again.

00:19:47.900 Certainly we said it like we are never going to say when we had a little baby in arms.

00:19:53.200 I've got a picture. I should have brought it. But we had the little baby.

00:19:56.860 I'm like, we are never going to say because I said so.

00:19:59.760 Like, we're going to explain to our children why you should be doing what we say, and, you know, it's going to be all rational.

00:20:10.700 So, but we always, it turned out to be that was the third explanation, right?

00:20:17.560 Why should I have to do this?

00:20:19.100 Because if you don't, then, you know, something bad is going to happen.

00:20:22.440 Why should I do this?

00:20:24.100 Because I'm the parent, and I know better, and I've got years of experience, and, you know, you should do it.

00:20:29.500 because it's good for you.

00:20:30.620 But why?

00:20:32.460 Because I said so.

00:20:34.940 I mean, you could explain stuff into the heat death of the universe,

00:20:41.020 and they're still going to ask you another question about it.

00:20:44.860 So at some point, you just have to comply.

00:20:51.520 It's funny, I could even name the heathen, no longer with the AFA,

00:20:55.340 but he was talking about walking through a grocery store in California,

00:20:59.500 and this four-year-old is laying on the floor of the grocery store literally screaming and

00:21:07.560 kicking her legs and not wanting to do whatever it was the parent said, and the parent is standing

00:21:14.140 over her going, do we need to have a meeting? Do we need to have a meeting? Yeah, you need to be

00:21:21.260 meeting that, meeting some discipline. So, and that's the thing, you have to teach your kids

00:21:28.580 discipline, but in an even-handed manner. The phrase I liked when we were doing, when we were

00:21:36.720 raising kids, which I thought I met, my boys might disagree, you know, but, and that is to be firm,

00:21:45.020 but fair. You know, we had a pretty wide perimeter that we let the kids roam in, um, without a whole

00:21:53.000 lot of, uh, um, correction. You know, they, they had a pretty wide latitude, but then right at

00:22:03.360 that boundary, if they crossed the boundary, then there was consequences. Um, and I think that

00:22:12.100 that's important. Your kids have to have consequences and you have to be consistent.

00:22:17.620 That was one of the things that we really practiced was consistency, you know, and if you,

00:22:24.640 if you say you're going to do something, like if you say, if you do that one more time, then you're

00:22:32.060 going to get punished. If they do it again and you don't punish them, then they know that they're in

00:22:36.720 charge. At that point, they know they can do whatever they want. You're not ever going to do

00:22:40.400 anything the kids run in the household and um you know you're off the cliff there sorry mr

00:22:49.220 you're you know so you're you're down the slippery slope of uh disobedient chaos so

00:22:56.980 but same time your rules have to be reasonable like you can't just say

00:23:01.020 you know your your rules if they're reasonable and rational the kids will go along with it kids

00:23:07.220 need structure. Kids need structure, and they need to know that they're all rules, and that's part of

00:23:13.320 the cocoon that swaddles them until they can pupate into adulthood. Sorry for mixing my metaphors

00:23:22.260 there. I had another point, and I skipped ahead, and so I forgot where I was going.

00:23:33.920 But sorry about that. Oh, I know what I was going to talk about.

00:23:38.540 Actually, because this is another opportunity for me to get on my soapbox about cell phones and talk about that.

00:23:49.200 One of the things that we shared when we talked about mental health is the fact.

00:23:55.400 And I think fact is the right way to say it.

00:23:58.020 Certainly the accurate assessment by lots of studies of psychology, no child under the age of 14 should have access to a cell phone.

00:24:14.880 They are not equipped with the filters to keep the bad stuff out or to have things in proportion.

00:24:25.840 The studies show that the spike in self-harm that young teenagers, even pre-teenagers, are going through is largely generated by the cell phone,

00:24:47.020 the social media phenomenon, recognize, and I think it's important to talk about again,

00:24:54.400 that social media platforms all have teams of psychologists and psychiatrists and marketing

00:25:08.020 people whose entire goal is to get people to stay fixated on the screens that they are generating.

00:25:17.060 So it's a terrible idea for kids to have access to that because they don't have the

00:25:23.280 wherewithal to, you know, to defend themselves against that social media infiltration of their

00:25:34.420 inner being, and it also deprives kids of, you know, it's the substitution effect is what

00:25:41.320 is the short-term way for it, right? If you're spending an hour a day looking at TikTok or

00:25:50.100 Facebook or YouTube, this show being the one exception, then, you know, you're,

00:25:58.260 then that's time you're not spending playing ball or interacting with your

00:26:04.960 friends or doing the other things that are critically important to,

00:26:10.360 to developing a well-rounded and normal and yes,

00:26:16.600 normal personality.

00:26:20.420 I want to throw something in if I could.

00:26:23.240 Of course.

00:26:24.420 So I don't know.

00:26:27.640 i think an area that alan and i might have more separation on than most is use of you know

00:26:34.360 technology and cell phones and social media but on this when it comes to kids and young people

00:26:40.200 this is crucially important and i i think it's beyond the realm of of opinion on it um i think

00:26:48.920 all of us know adults that their mental health is severely diminished by negativity on um

00:27:01.960 on social media and i say that as like a big part of my job is like being

00:27:07.160 aware of and inundated with afa social media all day all the time i i get that but it's hard when

00:27:15.720 you deal with and when we're talking about adults on here we talk about doom porn or doom spiraling

00:27:24.360 to where we just focus on all the political problems and all the variety of problems that

00:27:29.760 are legitimate but they're magnified and in your face and inflicted upon you when you're on social

00:27:36.340 media. If we see, you know, people in their 30s, that are greatly hurt by social media,

00:27:48.420 criticism of them, or the way they look, or things they're doing, or a stance they take,

00:27:54.340 and it's dehumanizing, if we know that badly affects people in their 30s,

00:28:00.020 how much more so someone who doesn't have the common sense to understand a lot of that's bots

00:28:08.660 that's not necessarily reflective of regular people you know you know this guy's in his mom's

00:28:15.460 basement and not like they don't know all the things that we know that mitigate some of the harm

00:28:21.860 what they know is there's a million voices telling them that they're horrible and that's awful

00:28:29.460 especially to our girls especially it hits young girls and teenage girls but even you know like

00:28:38.260 pre-teens very very hard when they're aware of that peer pressure is a real thing and it's very

00:28:46.740 relevant throughout our lives but it's never more intense than that like junior high age

00:28:54.660 um yeah if you can spare your children that by all means do the best you can

00:29:02.500 um and i think that again i i don't think that you can shelter them from that forever

00:29:10.180 but one of the things that we saw

00:29:14.420 during all the covid lockdowns that afflicted you know so many of us

00:29:20.020 us we have a generation of people and it's funny because you know to myself maybe more so to Alan

00:29:28.900 the passage of time is really different two years of obnoxiousness later in life when you

00:29:37.300 are in a relationship when you have a family when you have those things figured out is bad enough

00:29:45.220 and it's really detrimental but when you're first developing your social skills

00:29:49.940 you're in high school you're in that age group you're trying to make friends you're trying to

00:29:54.260 pursue sports you're trying to learn how to talk to girls or vice versa if you're a female and

00:30:00.580 you're trying to navigate those things we've seen how delayed and damaged we have generations of 0.99

00:30:10.180 people in their early 20s and mid-20s that are socially socially retarded and i don't use that 0.98

00:30:17.380 as a pejorative but just literally they are slowed and developmentally delayed socially 0.96

00:30:23.060 because they didn't get that interaction they didn't learn how to interact in a

00:30:31.380 emotionally responsible way with other human beings and that you know there's probably plenty

00:30:39.780 of people in their early 20s that feel that watching this show right now that's older kids

00:30:46.580 how much more so younger kids on that um learning how to interact with other human beings in the

00:30:54.100 real world is a very essential life skill and it has been since the dawn of mammalian life

00:31:06.100 that should not be foregone uh for modern convenience until you've at least developed

00:31:12.900 the basic skills to uh to incorporate that and i think that if you know if it's relevant to

00:31:20.020 technology and alan and i are both saying it i think everybody's probably well served to

00:31:25.460 there's something to it yeah and i appreciate you um taking that uh taking that spot with me um

00:31:33.780 because it's tough you know you know your your kids are gonna beg and whine to get that latest

00:31:40.900 technology um maybe uh you know on the other hand if you've got them busy doing stuff and they have

00:31:49.540 a well-rounded life where they don't need to absorb themselves into screen time then you know

00:31:57.060 then they won't miss it as much the um you know the the substitution effect is a very real thing

00:32:04.500 If you, you know, if you keep them busy. And even then there's a balance, right? Because one of the things that psychologists suggest is that we overparent our children. And part of that is because we, we're trying to make up for the fact that we're not around enough.

00:32:24.400 you know we so we over structure their time

00:32:28.340 you know and set them up with play dates which is just

00:32:33.320 you know like in my neighborhood when i was growing up and i realized that you know this

00:32:39.800 was like in the 13th century or whatever but if we wanted to go play with somebody we should go

00:32:44.360 knock on their door right hey the bark come out and play yeah okay no he's over at mark's house

00:32:50.340 So we'd go over there and then we'd go down to the school and play baseball or whatever.

00:32:55.300 So, you know, whereas now it's, well, you know, you want to go play soccer or not?

00:33:00.060 You know, I don't have soccer today.

00:33:01.720 Like everything is so structured and so over, so overscheduled.

00:33:08.960 I realize there's a balance in there.

00:33:10.700 You don't want to just let them freewheel all the time.

00:33:13.240 You've got to, you know, you have to have some, a little bit of structure time and then some downtime.

00:33:18.440 And they've got to do that busy work. I mean, homework, it's critically important that you, I actually do think that you should do memorization work because if you don't know facts, like how can you structure a rational worldview if you don't know, like in the timeline, like when was the battle of Hastings versus, you know, whatever came after that.

00:33:48.440 Anyway, so a lot of things came after that.

00:33:52.700 I was going to say, it's been a lot to happen in the last thousand years.

00:33:59.340 Yeah, a couple of things happened.

00:34:01.700 And then Steve McDowell came along and the world began to put itself right.

00:34:08.820 Along that line, though, you know, and one of the big reasons I think that, you know, that we need to have good, strong children with good, strong personalities is that we are in the minority so, so much of the time.

00:34:35.180 Now, some events have directed us, you know, have, you know, are starting to wake people up to the fact that our worldview is the right worldview.

00:34:50.520 And so the world is awakening. Western Europe is awake. Western civilization is awake, reawakening to the idea that maybe all this multiculturalism is not such a great idea.

00:35:05.180 but um in the meantime like you your kids are going to catch a lot of flack about

00:35:13.820 wearing a hammer so they have to they have to be strong within themselves and they have to

00:35:21.740 be um resilient and the way that you do that is you know you let them

00:35:27.420 bounce off the floor occasionally you know our you know

00:35:31.900 know we went to the emergency room 12 or 15 times i know we had six or eight broken arms between

00:35:42.320 the three kids and a broken collarbone never a broken leg um several stitches but you know it

00:35:51.560 just comes with the territory they bounce up and they're okay right and that's what you know scars

00:35:56.160 make good stories. I don't have any, but like my oldest boy's got a plate right here in his

00:36:03.420 collarbone. And he did finally tell me the real story about what happened. He didn't just fall

00:36:10.640 off the skateboard when he was 16. His 17-year-old buddy was driving him down, you know, and he was

00:36:18.600 holding on. They were, they were, what do you call it, slaloming with the skateboard, you know?

00:36:26.800 so he was on grabbing on the back of the tailgate yeah well with a rope it was with the toe okay

00:36:33.280 oh okay that's even that's a terrible idea yeah as he probably now knows

00:36:44.320 he certainly learned it after his second day in the emergency room um but uh you know that was um

00:36:51.440 Um, but again, you live and learn, right? And that's, uh, uh, that's something that I think

00:37:00.480 the children of a lot of the helicopter, the hovering parents, you know, like every time

00:37:05.980 they, the kid hits their butt a little bit, they come sweeping over there. Um, I've been around

00:37:12.460 that too. It's agonizing to watch parents hover like that because they, you know, because then

00:37:18.220 kid grows up thinking of themselves as fragile um and you know your kids are not fragile they'll

00:37:26.460 you know they'll bounce up and and do well so i think i would like to enter good stories

00:37:35.340 they do and i want to interject on that for a second there's something that happens and i

00:37:39.500 think we've all seen this with like a toddler like a real little kid they look to the adults in the

00:37:48.860 room to gauge how to react there are like crushing injuries that are an immediate pain screaming out

00:37:59.900 and then there's i fell down right and then you see and if you've got you know the hysterical

00:38:09.500 oh my god my baby then the crying and the the drama ensues but if you see dad over there like

00:38:19.340 you all right okay come here that was cool you know often there's not a problem they take those

00:38:26.700 early cues on and it's a couple of different things yes it's obnoxious if your kid is a cry

00:38:36.860 baby all the time that is annoying to the rest of us it's whatever and you want tough kids but it's

00:38:43.660 not just about that a lot of it's about self-confidence and it's about them feeling like

00:38:49.900 they can try things and if they fall they can dust themselves off and try again and that that's

00:38:55.340 encouraged and celebrated that it's you know it's okay to you know get banged around a little bit

00:39:02.780 in the course of life and it's not a crisis it's not the end of the world it teaches a lot of those

00:39:10.220 little things psychologically that kind of build how you react to stuff and i think that comes into

00:39:17.740 play throughout life a little bit later and i get and i'll gladly take a back seat on a lot

00:39:23.420 of this conversation my daughter is five so i can't you know judge the i can't judge the fruits

00:39:31.900 of how whatever i'm doing is gonna gonna pay off or not i i've got five years worth of stuff that

00:39:39.100 i can talk about and some theories and things that i see with other um children in the afa

00:39:45.020 and children i come in contact with but i do that's something that i think is is very important

00:39:52.220 the other thing that i wanted to mention about the over protectiveness i think this comes in but like

00:39:58.220 with the world around us in general and other things

00:40:03.740 you and i don't think there's a perfect answer to this this is an art but

00:40:13.020 you don't want reality to hit them in the face perhaps literally all at once with no preparation

00:40:24.620 when they're outside of your ability to help them navigate it to do that would be irresponsible

00:40:33.500 if they don't get to learn how to problem solve and learn something of the world around them

00:40:41.900 and they have to figure it out all at once

00:40:44.300 the hey in the deep end them the consequences of sinking are very real and we see them around us a

00:40:57.480 lot so that's something that's that is important to keep in mind and that's one of the some of the

00:41:05.120 stuff with those who study and look at this stuff professionally can cast what we see you know just

00:41:13.520 in general and they can categorize it and uh denominate it but one of the and that's what

00:41:21.120 you see with uh with both unstructured play um and other things that are taken away if you spend too

00:41:30.640 much time on social media and too much time on your cell phone um but in the and it's exactly

00:41:37.440 what you're talking about that the um one of the examples that they use and i would never have

00:41:43.200 thought about this but it's like they call it turn taking right like when you're playing with

00:41:49.680 kids like you don't get the ball all the time you know and so you have to learn they get a turn they

00:41:55.420 get a turn i get a turn that's not something that you learn when you're scrolling or online game

00:42:03.000 because always your turn right and so then when you come out out into the cold cruel world where

00:42:11.460 it's not always your turn, then you don't have those psychological strength to endure

00:42:19.300 what, for a lot of people, then get knocked down by what seems like some pretty minor

00:42:28.700 stuff, and I think it's because they haven't been, you know, haven't developed those calluses

00:42:36.200 that you get from um going around and playing pickup baseball and i don't think you need to set

00:42:44.200 set them up for failures in orders for them to learn you know what that's like i think

00:42:49.640 life provides plenty of that in a measured and appropriate way but um

00:42:57.800 something you don't you don't pull the you don't um pull the swing out from under them when they're

00:43:03.160 going to sit down um but you also don't well okay so i really appreciate there was this other dad

00:43:12.440 at uh costco i was walking with aubrey pushing the cart and doing stuff she wasn't looking where

00:43:18.680 she was going ever and i told her like five six say an obnoxious amount of time hey aubrey you

00:43:26.360 need to look where you're going you need to look where you're going you need to look where you're

00:43:29.560 going she was walking right towards this other dude's cart and he looked at me this other dad

00:43:35.400 looked at me and i looked at him and we gave each other the nod she just walked right into it

00:43:43.480 not enough to like hurt herself but i'm i told you you need to watch where you're going

00:43:49.720 those things um it's important to learn those but something else i wanted to say that

00:43:55.640 i think is often misunderstood when we're adults and we're angry with another man it's like hey

00:44:05.720 why don't you say that to my face bet you wouldn't say that to my face it's easy to see the very

00:44:12.520 obvious implication of if you push too hard maybe someone will hit you but i think there's a much

00:44:19.320 bigger lesson in that on why people wouldn't say that to somebody's face and this goes to the idea

00:44:26.200 of the socialization we talked about interacting with other people and learning that they have

00:44:32.120 feelings and developing empathy matters you don't like it when people say mean things to you it hurts

00:44:39.960 your feelings well when you say mean things to other people and you look at them and you see

00:44:45.480 that you've hurt their feelings you feel that empathy and you start understanding i don't like

00:44:50.840 how it feels to look at my friend who now is sad because of something i said and you learn how to

00:45:00.840 be sympathetic to other people that way by seeing their reaction and that goes for everything like 0.93

00:45:07.960 you look somebody in the face and you say something really dumb you realize like that 0.97

00:45:12.600 guy's looking at you like you're crazy and you hear how it's said when you said it out loud 0.98

00:45:17.000 and you learn a valuable lesson about like oh okay now it makes sense well if you're you know

00:45:23.880 an anonymous face behind the screen with some kind of comic book avatar you don't get that

00:45:31.240 response you don't get that feedback to inform your social interaction and all of that that's

00:45:38.440 important both you don't get either side of it you don't don't get checked by the the obvious hurt

00:45:46.200 that you feel that you've caused and you don't get checked by the threat of a bloody nose yeah all of

00:45:53.160 all of the above or you you those navigations and again you want to learn that on the playground

00:46:00.680 you don't want to learn that in a back alley in a strange town you don't know where you're at but

00:46:06.760 all of a sudden you're 18 and your car broke down and you're somewhere strange

00:46:11.960 that's not the time to learn that lesson right that's where stranger danger is a real thing

00:46:23.000 um it's it's it's tough you know and it's it's getting harder i i have said before

00:46:35.480 that i'm really happy that we got our kids out um right before cell phones came along i mean my

00:46:44.360 um you know 2012 or so was you know the first time our kids were running cell phones

00:46:54.680 it immediately turned into a problem um uh so and i get it you know you want and

00:47:02.840 And it's but you as an interim solution, I know like one of the objections that I read about, like, well, I got to be able to get in touch with them.

00:47:13.560 First of all, you don't like we again, like when I was growing up, you know, before electricity, the it was that thing where, you know, when it got dark, we came home or, you know, supper was ready before that.

00:47:29.200 mom would come out and call us and we'd go home from where we were usually pretty quickly um but

00:47:36.020 you know if you feel like you you're so used now to being able to have the at least a feeling of

00:47:45.420 that constant tether in your hand i mean your kids can have a dumb phone they still make them

00:47:49.840 where you know they can text you know i'm over at mark's house we're gonna play clue or whatever

00:47:57.100 it's uh so you can so they can have a phone where they can call if something really does happen

00:48:05.460 and you know if there's an emergency they can get in touch that makes sense i'm you know i wouldn't 0.99

00:48:12.080 i wouldn't decry that but to have a um you know to have the one-eyed idiot maker in their hand 0.99

00:48:18.820 all the time where they're so much of their soul is being absorbed by the nefarious forces that 1.00

00:48:26.620 lurk behind the screen. It's just a terrible, terrible idea. You know, I, I think, you know,

00:48:37.840 the, I wish we could get back to that ideal of, you know, like-minded parents all being in the

00:48:45.280 same neighborhood, raising their kids the same way. I think that's a lot of how I grew up.

00:48:49.840 So looking back on it, we can, we can, we can.

00:48:55.520 It is much less convenient now than people like to.

00:48:58.220 It used to be, and this is approaches a meta narrative.

00:49:03.840 That's important.

00:49:06.280 There was a time where in, you know, white parts of America,

00:49:15.140 the families in the neighborhood all had commonality.

00:49:19.840 when I say that I'm not just disparaging but in minority communities those people all had a shared

00:49:25.520 understanding of reality too that was different and your values were likely very similar to most

00:49:33.280 of the people's values on your street and in your neighborhood other parents were looking

00:49:40.320 out for each other's children and I don't mean to paint a grim hellscape of every neighborhood

00:49:46.240 in America that's not the case but it is the case in a lot of them and not necessarily where there's

00:49:53.360 predators and evil intention people but there's a whole lot of ambivalence so a lot of not my kids

00:49:59.680 not my problem um there's a lot of things there's all of the big fears that we're all scared of

00:50:07.840 the child murderers and child rapists and those things are terrifying but there's also people

00:50:14.400 that just have been conditioned socially not to take responsibility for other people's children

00:50:22.000 not to say anything when kids are doing stuff if they're not their kids because that's impolite

00:50:30.000 there's a time where you're walking around the neighborhood and you do something wrong

00:50:33.600 somebody else's mom comes out there and scolds you and says hey you want me to call your mom

00:50:38.320 like i saw you you have a whole neighborhood of eyes making sure the kids are safe that's

00:50:43.440 not always the case I will say this this is really cool and this was you know probably 10 years ago

00:50:47.920 but it was still pretty cool because I thought this disappeared it's funny Alan talks about you

00:50:54.080 know when he was a kid and when I was a kid you know a little while later it was still the same

00:51:00.640 way that you'd you could do that it amazes me because I couldn't imagine Aubrey doing that

00:51:06.640 but like it's summertime it's in the morning you get done with your cereal or whatever else you do

00:51:13.680 when you go outside you go play with your friends you come back around lunchtime and then you come

00:51:18.640 back when it starts getting dark and there was you know never a care in the world all the kids

00:51:25.600 were cool they were over at somebody's house or at so-and-so's house it wasn't a scary thing you

00:51:33.200 know we had when i got a bicycle there was a bigger i guess zone where i could stay in a bunch

00:51:40.880 of the neighborhood streets but i didn't get to cross these major streets but again it was a

00:51:46.320 couple miles radius that i could be on my bike without her being a problem um don't always have

00:51:52.960 that but i went to a a friend of mine's house a former afa member in oklahoma and his daughter

00:52:01.600 was out playing in the neighborhood and it's like i traveled back in time it's like i traveled back

00:52:06.640 in time you know 30 plus years previous to where he went to his front door opened the door hollered

00:52:15.680 his kid's name you know five houses down or whatever a whole mess of kids comes running out

00:52:22.480 of a house and all those kids come and you know swarm him and get in his house or whatever and

00:52:27.920 that was that was that and it's hard to have that now so the bigger meta narrative i was going to

00:52:34.420 say is because this goes into some stuff and then we got uh some questions i'll certainly

00:52:38.860 kick it back to you here in a second but one of the things that came up um

00:52:44.840 and we'll get to it more specifically it's a little bit more nuanced than that but

00:52:49.680 we can and some of us are very much trying to move into communities together you can get houses

00:53:01.320 on the same street awesome if you can get a shared piece of property that's cool but you know what

00:53:07.380 else is cool if that's not the world you live in and you live in an urban environment 0.55

00:53:11.540 hey if you got four or five different afa members in the same apartment building or in the same

00:53:18.040 you know apartment complex or whatever there's a lot of ways to do it but proximity

00:53:24.780 to other families with shared values is really important and it's harder to find because we've

00:53:31.820 become very atomized but i would say those of us in the house true folk assembly have a much

00:53:37.020 better chance for that than most people around us we have access in the afa to hundreds of other

00:53:46.020 parents and families with children that share our worldview, that understand the dangers

00:53:54.320 that we understand, and that are invested in trying to take care of each other.

00:54:03.680 The more we move to closer together, the better that gets.

00:54:10.380 it's not the idyllic you know us old guys talking about you know our our childhood last century but

00:54:19.740 it's a lot closer than if you don't have it and you have other people's houses they can go to

00:54:24.540 and other other kids that can reinforce and draw strength from your children and be a strength for

00:54:32.300 each other so that's something that we're very consciously trying to do it's why i'm uh my

00:54:37.660 My family's moving to Jackson County, Tennessee, to Sigurheim, to make that a thing and to

00:54:43.480 move with other AFA families there to build that in a small county and try to get a piece

00:54:50.720 of that in our life.

00:54:53.960 It's very seldom going to come and find you, but if you are committed to building that,

00:54:59.420 you have a lot of agency to build the life that you want for yourself and your family.

00:55:03.720 if you're willing to pick up stakes and move somewhere and put down roots and make those

00:55:09.340 efforts. It's not always going to be easy, but in the AFA, you have a lot of options to help with

00:55:14.520 that. And it kind of flows into tonight's earlier announcement about Frazehoff. The more we get

00:55:20.520 Hoff's places, those can serve as spots for people to move closer to and build community around.

00:55:27.820 We've got beachheads in the wolf age around us of little pockets of golden age that we can all take shelter in.

00:55:38.060 And that's a beautiful thing that we have that generations previous didn't.

00:55:42.300 And I'd encourage everybody to take part in that.

00:55:44.580 So two things like we there is an AFA parenting group online, right?

00:55:49.760 um so i would certainly encourage those parents that

00:55:57.620 to gather around that because you know that is that kind of thing where like

00:56:06.460 it looks like the whole rest of the world is in chaos and we're the only ones doing it right

00:56:13.520 That's, you know, there are a lot of traditionalist families that do these same things that we're doing, but it would be, but it's, so it's good to have that feedback among the adults on shared social space, the interwebs or whatever, you know, to get that sort of encouragement and good feedback that, yes, you know, we are doing it the correct way.

00:56:39.440 Um, the other thing, um, because we AFA members are spread so thin right now, um, you know, it is absolutely okay to, to, to get that network through other traditionalist type groups.

00:57:01.700 you know you meet some dads at the gun club or you meet some moms at girl scouts and you do those

00:57:10.340 sorts of things and you can meet parents who have the same traditionalist values that we do

00:57:19.080 and their kids will be good kids and their kids will be raised in a respectful raised right that's

00:57:26.060 That's how we say it in South and raised right.

00:57:29.500 And, you know, and they will be good kids and be good company for your kids and help buffer that chaotic normie world of NPCs out there.

00:57:45.660 Absolutely.

00:57:49.420 Do you have more on your agenda or would you like to take some questions?

00:57:53.920 Let's take some questions.

00:57:54.860 i you know i can wax on and on and often do parenting that's like a daily thing that occurs

00:58:03.420 for eight i say for 18 years but i imagine it occurs perpetually as long as both you know both

00:58:12.460 parties are are on this side of the veil um so i'm gonna try to sort through this question this

00:58:23.020 question was an optional vns question and a personal email so it's not formatted the way

00:58:31.980 we are used to so i'm trying to navigate it the best i can uh any fault is mine and not the

00:58:36.780 original senders um so today for the first time i poured out a little coffee and prayed to uh

00:58:48.620 Odin, asking for protection and wisdom. Anyhow, I'm still on the fence about Al-Satru, but my

00:58:55.400 mind was just flooded with an interesting thought. Is it possible that the Al-Satru movement might

00:59:01.580 become instrumental in reconciling black and white folks in North America? For example,

00:59:08.960 I found a black nationalist preacher before I ever found Al-Satru. This man had left Christianity

00:59:15.140 and begun to worship the ancient African gods.

00:59:18.560 I emailed him asking where a white post-Christian should go for spirituality.

00:59:24.340 He never responded. 0.97

00:59:25.360 It became apparent over time that this black nationalist preacher had genocidal feelings towards whites.

00:59:31.880 But I wonder if we Alcetruar folk could get the message out that as white Christians, 0.95

00:59:41.240 that it was white Christians who enslaved blacks,

00:59:44.080 and that white Alcetru folks have no desire to subjugate other races, 0.98

00:59:50.040 perhaps we could help change their minds of genocidal black folks. 0.55

00:59:55.300 If we could communicate that we reject monotheism 1.00

00:59:58.780 and reject the idea that one God is supreme overall,

01:00:03.080 if we recognize that all folk have their own legitimate gods,

01:00:06.920 we can encourage our black neighbors to worship their gods

01:00:09.880 whilst we worship ours. 0.68

01:00:12.040 We can appreciate the differences between black and white folks.

01:00:16.400 We can perhaps live together in peace. 1.00

01:00:19.340 I wouldn't approach black Christian leaders with any desire to try and cooperate.

01:00:24.000 But I wonder if any Alcetru leaders might be willing to build bridges with black nationalists in the spirit of reconciliation and cooperation.

01:00:33.740 One reason I haven't fully committed to Alcetru is because I'm not sure if it leads to peace or war.

01:00:40.400 i am a man of peace although i do recognize that there is a time for war as well

01:00:45.200 anyhow i'd be interested to hear your thoughts on this now it's a big question there's a lot

01:00:51.840 there to unpack there are some things that are

01:00:56.000 are incongruent with our stance, and there are some things that are good points to think

01:01:09.940 about in that. Alan, what is your reaction to that in whole or in part?

01:01:16.840 Well, I will, you know, I understand the tenor of the question, and it certainly has been discussed that those who recognize distinction,

01:01:38.600 and that's the way i'd like to you know those who recognize the distinction among peoples

01:01:44.440 can have a can have a more comfortable conversation um because we don't suffer

01:01:52.860 from the mythology that everybody's the same okay that there are differences between and among

01:02:01.440 peoples um and that's okay you know they're um east what was it one of the keats poems you know

01:02:11.960 east is east and west is west and never the twain shall meet um no nick's looking that up already

01:02:19.520 But the, you know, we have our, and I just want to get to a point, and this is one of the reasons why I try to encourage us to group together.

01:02:35.900 I want to get to a point where I don't have to think about, I don't care what other people think or how they act.

01:02:41.980 You know, we have a unique approach to civilization. What it means to have a happy, healthy child in a Western civilizational context has a particular meaning, and that's the way that we were shaped for hundreds of thousands of years.

01:03:06.400 and it is valid and worthy of protection those who have been shaped by a different culture i'm

01:03:13.120 sure they feel the exact same way and as they rightly should that their culture also is valid

01:03:19.440 and worthy of protection um where these lines start to blend and cross

01:03:26.960 the type of equality and egalitarianism that we see that's being foisted on us by

01:03:36.860 the Frankfurt School, I mean, by modern culture,

01:03:42.320 only can meet down at the lowest common denominator. And that is, you know, the devolution

01:03:50.600 of, of all of our civilizations, um, where the lowest appetites are the things that we can agree

01:03:59.680 on. And so that's what has been foisted to the front of the line. Um, modern music, I'm not going

01:04:07.340 to do the air quotes, um, but you know, what passes for modern music and all, you know, is just

01:04:12.260 And it's because it's all algorithmed out to our basest nature.

01:04:21.920 And our approach to these sorts of things should be to rise above that.

01:04:28.360 As Western man, we are burdened and blessed by the Faustian urge to rise above our circumstances.

01:04:40.760 That's how we got electricity and refrigeration and internal combustion, all the blessings of modern civilization.

01:04:54.100 And I do agree that we can agree to disagree that we can live adjacent but not adjoining, if that's the right way to phrase that.

01:05:10.000 And I think I'm getting at sort of the gist of the question.

01:05:14.560 So, Yar, and this is kind of the, so I responded to the email privately and the tone of the question seems to make it like, 1.00

01:05:31.200 if only we were nice and sweet talked the the blacks they wouldn't be so like literally the 0.95

01:05:39.160 question posits genocidal towards us if only we could teach them that no it was the Christian 0.96

01:05:45.040 whites that enslaved you guys not not also true whites I think that

01:05:51.800 starting position in relations is a non-starter and I think it goes to the bigger thing you don't 0.59

01:06:04.100 want to treat with other people or other groups of people out of weakness but also what's in the

01:06:13.180 question inherently that I like is treating with other people both from a position of strength

01:06:20.040 I think that whatever we think the ideal situation is, we live certainly here in the United States in a very multicultural society with all different races of people intermixed into our communities in a variety of ways.

01:06:38.460 Some of us want that. Some of us do not want that. Some of the folks on other groups of people also might not want that to be the case. But here we are. 0.98

01:06:50.040 We interact with each other in a variety of ways under a variety of different circumstances,

01:06:58.800 but historically, we interact with one another under the terms of universalist faiths that

01:07:10.140 deny our individuality that's blatantly obvious to all of us, but we have to pretend it's not,

01:07:18.260 And one side is the victim and the other side is the inflictor of oppression, or that's

01:07:25.240 how the narrative is laid out.

01:07:28.260 And it fundamentally pits us in a conflict that isn't doesn't have to be necessary.

01:07:34.820 What I'm reminded of and if you read the tone of that question, yes, it sounds very lovey

01:07:41.980 w or soft or whatever but the immediate thing that came to mind was commander rockwell meeting

01:07:49.500 going with other members of the american nazi party to go meet with and attend a nation of

01:07:56.540 islam sermon by malcolm x in 1961. two folks that you would think would be extreme enemies

01:08:05.580 but they could come together with a certain amount of mutual respect because they both

01:08:10.620 were very proud of their people and both had similar values expressed in different cultures

01:08:21.860 towards their own versus their own interaction with the rest of the world. And both of them came

01:08:29.400 from positions of strength. It wasn't, you know, any, I don't know, historical disavowing of

01:08:37.380 ancestors or anything else so i do think that having pride in ourselves and our race and our

01:08:47.460 folk is the best place to be to have productive relationships with any other group of people we

01:08:57.860 interact with and i would say the same for other races of people certainly it's up to them how

01:09:04.500 they want to present themselves i would much rather a proud unabashed racially proud white man

01:09:13.780 and his black counterpart and his chinese counterpart and his aztec counterpart be

01:09:21.780 able to have respect for one another and pride in their own individual cultures

01:09:26.980 than this unnatural pretending we're all the same everybody's you know boohooing about them being

01:09:35.780 victimized stuff i think that the strong position is a much safer and more peaceful position than

01:09:46.260 the weak position which is kind of an interesting thing the more i mulled this over he talks at the

01:09:51.140 end about he's concerned about being also true because he doesn't know whether it leads to war

01:09:56.580 or it leads to peace and you know the best way to achieve peace is to be prepared for war

01:10:03.460 the best way to maintain the peace is by strong people knowing that there are lines that you don't

01:10:11.860 cross having respect for that and that being a mutual respect of strong people because when you

01:10:18.660 have weak people that react out of weakness, that's when you have violence, that's when you

01:10:23.620 have pettiness, that's when you have like ugliness. You don't have that nearly as much with two strong

01:10:32.980 individuals or two strong groups that both are able to have pride in themselves. And I think

01:10:38.820 that's the meat and taters of the question and where I think it's valuable for us to consider.

01:10:45.380 And I agree with that for the most part. Not the best example, maybe, but at the same time, I think we should disabuse this questioner of any naivete about the history of our people.

01:11:10.400 um yes you know i guess we should you know maybe we should remind everyone i know the vast majority

01:11:21.460 of our listening audience already knows this but like slavery didn't start in 1619 right

01:11:27.540 um if you want to read if you want to know about the true horrors of the slave trade

01:11:36.260 read about the Muslim slave trade. The current Muslim slave trade. 0.98

01:11:42.660 Right. Right. That's what I mean. The millions of whites that they kidnapped from Europe and 1.00

01:11:51.220 took into Muslim lands. And sometimes the Vikings were helping them do it. I mean, you know, 0.99

01:12:00.020 it brought in big sacks of silver, so they would go in and capture some Irish and sell them. 0.93

01:12:06.260 So, you know, we shouldn't pretend even to win one more follower.

01:12:14.780 We shouldn't pretend that somehow our, like the hammer of Thor wasn't out there taking slaves, because we did.

01:12:26.840 The Vikings themselves had slaves from other white cultures that they captured in war.

01:12:32.820 That was part of a big, that was part of the big bounty of war is, you know, and that's, and that's one of the reasons why people fought so hard to keep from being overwhelmed is because they knew like the men would be taken into slavery and the women would be taken into concubines, right?

01:12:50.080 So, I mean, when you know that's what's coming, you know, that motivates your battle courage throughout history.

01:13:01.880 and I'm reading a book

01:13:06.380 called War and Civilization

01:13:09.040 and like all this mythology

01:13:13.440 about the Native American tribes 0.99

01:13:17.180 being these peacefully coexisting, that's all just bullshit. 0.99

01:13:21.720 Not once, not ever. 0.99

01:13:24.300 You know, they talk about like even the Eskimos

01:13:29.480 But as thinly populated as that part of the world is, they have blood grudges that go back decades, and they will kill each other over, you know, you came and took my walrus tooth or whatever.

01:13:43.360 So, yeah.

01:13:44.960 No, it's an endless cycle of supposed victimization.

01:13:49.380 Even the American slave trade was much less like white guys going into Africa and rounding up natives.

01:13:57.480 natives. It was a lot of African tribes selling us their slaves and us purchasing them to 0.68

01:14:06.180 get used in an environment that is not well suited to us toiling in. 0.98

01:14:12.520 And the Native Americans took and they enslaved. 0.99

01:14:18.000 But American blacks, when they were emancipated, when they got enough money, the first thing 0.96

01:14:25.180 they wanted to get was their own slaves and i'm not saying that i'm just saying that as a matter 0.81

01:14:31.340 of fact people throughout all of earth's history take slaves that happens a lot but there's one

01:14:41.020 group of people that for the last however long at least 50 years if not more we constantly need to

01:14:50.940 go through that with is this this same thing that again is present in the questions like

01:14:57.820 apologizing for slavery no i have no desire to whatsoever i don't disavow my ancestors that i'm

01:15:04.300 very proud of they were successful um the other thing is it's funny because people co-opt that

01:15:14.540 on to them a lot of the people who are suggesting that in america are people who their ancestors

01:15:21.980 didn't come here until real recently they may very well have ancestors that sold those slaves to uh

01:15:28.700 early american colonists it's a lot of the if we want to go back in hundreds of years ago to

01:15:35.580 pick out grievances any of us could have a list a mile long at any given time because we live

01:15:44.060 you know 5 000 years into written history what's important is yesterday today and tomorrow and i

01:15:54.220 think that's only addressed through a very strong proactive assertive pride in oneself and um

01:16:05.020 unrelenting commitment to the well-being of your folk whatever your fault might

01:16:11.900 whatever hue your folk might be the the way to be is strong and committed to the well-being of your

01:16:19.980 people against any outside threat and if all parties felt that way we would have a much safer

01:16:28.060 world and a much safer society the shorthand way that i like to phrase that is uh when it's us

01:16:34.380 versus them i take us every time always um and exactly and you know i've watched a lot of jonathan

01:16:46.380 bowden's videos out there um there's a lot of his stuff out there on the internet

01:16:53.900 and the phrase that he used is you just step over it yes we did that stuff you know we

01:16:59.900 We killed people.

01:17:02.420 We enslaved people. 0.98

01:17:05.560 We were killed and we were enslaved in turn.

01:17:09.760 So, yeah, that stuff happened.

01:17:11.380 You step over it.

01:17:14.000 You know, just because, like, if your grandfather stole 50 cents from my grandfather, you don't owe me 50 cents.

01:17:20.560 um you know if we want to go back to that i you know i want to go find the normans and

01:17:27.460 you know because they still owe me reparations back from 1066

01:17:30.700 um so it's uh you know talk about some get back um it's but we have to take ourselves today at

01:17:44.300 face value how do we start today and make a better life for ourselves and for our children

01:17:51.740 and the way we do that is by facing the past honestly you know the um we the vikings were

01:18:01.200 not peaceful people the saxons were not peaceful they didn't beg the britons you know or they

01:18:09.660 didn't politely ask the Romans to leave Britain. They killed them until they quit coming back.

01:18:19.080 There's a lot of ways to do things. And I get we live in the time that we live in.

01:18:24.580 And I think that for all of us, peace is awesome. We want peace. But peace isn't like an unlimited

01:18:32.420 an unlimited good we want peace on favorable terms like if we're able to have the things

01:18:41.700 that we want the things that we need and the destiny that we want to shape for ourselves

01:18:45.980 then we don't want unnecessary war or or hardship everyone should want that and if we all want that

01:18:56.680 and are committed with our blood and bone to that,

01:19:01.340 then we can have some reasonable compromise

01:19:04.500 instead of a back and forth victimization process.

01:19:08.880 Right.

01:19:09.100 As you're saying that, I'm thinking peace, yes, but at what cost?

01:19:14.600 Yeah, peace is awesome, but it's not the only thing that's important.

01:19:22.180 And I think that we get. Everything doesn't need to be expressed in the most extreme terms, and we very often are there as if war just happens just because or peace just happens just because and it doesn't.

01:19:41.540 There's a lot of factors that are very legitimate in conflict between peoples and groups of people.

01:19:49.220 And there are various solutions that are peaceful and respectful to both sides.

01:19:54.300 There are various solutions that are not.

01:19:56.840 And different times call for different ways to address situations.

01:20:03.140 But that was that man's question, and I hope it made sense.

01:20:07.140 i do think that you know and to to extend more on the the black nationalist thing

01:20:15.860 there was a time where the thought was let's take care of our own let's protect our own and

01:20:24.740 let's elevate our people to something better and something higher that is a really noble thing for

01:20:31.460 all groups of people to try to do for their people and as a point of kind of to put a bookend on it

01:20:38.340 it's been nice when we have the blue-haired college-educated liberal karens of the world

01:20:49.860 complaining about how terrible we are people that have come out in support of us have been

01:20:55.300 a number of members of the nation of islam to say like hey you guys trying to look out for your

01:21:01.060 people and and take care of your own that's i respect that assalamu alaikum i appreciate that

01:21:06.900 thank you um so yeah i do think that there's something there just maybe not in the way that the

01:21:14.180 the questioner envisioned uh next question hey there when talking to some people about the lore

01:21:21.060 they sometimes like to point to stories where the isir mixed and reproduced with the vanir

01:21:32.040 and the jotuns as examples to try to prove that race mixing is approved by the gods

01:21:39.100 there's also some saga about an individual named uh germund uh hellskin who evidently had dark

01:21:50.420 had dark skin and is seen as a mixed race individual who is spoken well of what would

01:21:56.720 the afa say about these claims regarding mixing thank you and much love to the afa um yeah the uh

01:22:05.600 sorry the the guy's name is germund uh heliarskin and he was a

01:22:16.740 Norwegian prince that married a Sammy, I think.

01:22:25.340 So, Alan, what are your thoughts on that question?

01:22:37.220 I think, like, at least, first of all, I'm having to look up who,

01:22:44.560 and he has a wikipedia page i have my don't reveal i see you're giving the you're giving

01:22:52.120 the magic tricks away i'd never heard of this guy either i had to google it i just kept it off screen

01:22:56.880 um you know i i think that um to the the thing between the acer and the van here

01:23:08.060 First of all, they were closely compatible, you know, as was shown by the fact that, you know, they came to war, but, you know, were evenly matched.

01:23:20.960 I, you know, so I don't think that that sort of thing is about race mixing so much as it is the intertribal warfare that you might see, like between the Ostrogoths and the Goss and Ostrogoths.

01:23:48.220 I mean, those were two different peoples too. I think the problem writ large in the lore is the example that is often spoken of by our more, you know, by those who want to use the example of Loki as a, you know, that he was blood brother to the gods and all that,

01:24:17.380 which I don't think is attested to correctly in the lore, you know, I think there's a different

01:24:21.520 way to interpret all that stuff, but, you know, how did that turn out? That's the question.

01:24:26.880 You know, yes, Odin brought Loki in, the son of giants, which were, you know, probably of some

01:24:37.040 different, slightly different composition, and that turned out very poorly for the gods.

01:24:45.060 The other thing to say, and you're the lore guy, right?

01:24:49.380 So I don't want to step all over your stuff.

01:24:52.160 But to me, I don't think of the way that the giants and all that sort of stuff, that's not literal happening.

01:25:07.680 That's a mythological understanding of the world.

01:25:10.100 What exactly that is has a lot less bearing for me than being able to come up to Phrasehoff for the inaugural ceremony here, pretty same.

01:25:27.260 So there's, first, before we do any of that, got a comment over in the comment section from Jay Russ.

01:25:36.480 not a member don't agree with focusness still donate cash because i approve of how the afa

01:25:43.120 puts our gods first thank you very much for that very much appreciated i'm glad you're here i'm

01:25:49.520 glad you're listening and i appreciate your contribution um to the to the point

01:25:59.520 so the sagas are historical accounts of things that happen

01:26:06.640 yeah the saga yes sometimes we get pieces out of them that that do reflect values but

01:26:14.880 some guy mated with a sami back in early medieval norway isn't indicative of that is

01:26:24.400 you know celebrated by the you know religious elites of alsatru at all

01:26:30.400 it stuff things happen the sagas talk about murders and kinslaying that happens and any

01:26:38.160 number of bad things that happen are illustrated in there too they weren't necessarily written for

01:26:43.840 moral purposes as much as documenting events that occurred you can talk about how characters are

01:26:50.000 treated in them to express attitudes at the time but to show man in in in reading all of the saga

01:26:58.000 material i found one instance of one guy that went and got it on with the sami so clearly

01:27:05.760 you know the tenth no all the rest of this attitude is wrong yeah the tenth noble virtue

01:27:11.600 should clearly be miscegenation that's not that's not reasonable it doesn't make any kind of logic

01:27:18.000 sense logic or sense it's also important to realize the world that our ancestors lived in

01:27:26.640 and the differences between things um until relatively recently in the progress of humanity

01:27:40.240 there was a real clear understanding of mankind equals white folks and everybody else we know

01:27:50.800 they exist but it's not really the same thing we're talking about and it's you can read that

01:27:55.600 up into the declaration of independence and you know the the constitution and the writing of the

01:28:01.680 founding fathers they were very egalitarian amongst white people but when you talk you know

01:28:11.200 we believe that that all men are created equal and thomas jefferson was a genius by all accounts

01:28:20.160 a very lettered man someone who spoke fluent uh french greek latin i believe and english

01:28:29.840 and was literate in german like a top-notch mind it wasn't lost on him the incongruent

01:28:38.240 the seeming incongruence of he was a slave owner and he wrote that all men are created equal

01:28:44.720 clearly he didn't think that meant that um American Indians or blacks were the same and

01:28:54.720 equal to whites he meant kind of that all white people were created equal and then the rest is a

01:29:00.920 little bit nuanced there's a understanding of same and different that transcends we read when

01:29:10.340 us fawn and i go through saga material they talk about the race of the um you know hundings or the

01:29:18.260 race of the uh the burgundians or the race of the goths as if they're different things

01:29:28.180 they're talking about ethnic differences between germanic tribes and european peoples

01:29:34.500 they talk really differently the few times we see them encounter other races of people in the term

01:29:42.740 that we would understand the word race to mean today when they encountered American Indians

01:29:48.580 they talked about scraylings and their description wasn't like oh these are just like the Irish or

01:29:56.420 the you know the french no they were a very different thing and i think that's the obvious

01:30:04.500 assumption and the obvious thing that's conveyed by any fair historical treatment

01:30:10.660 the sagas and the lore are thick with in-group preference yes people that are similar to you are

01:30:20.420 much more important to you than people that are not similar to you yes us we need to be very

01:30:28.900 respectful of us and them less so and them exp it extends out to various circles until you're

01:30:37.940 very far away from what us is and you're absolutely right yeah um and if you read

01:30:46.500 the accounts

01:30:49.360 of the Romans who encountered the Germanic

01:30:51.340 tribes, one of the

01:30:53.260 things that they point out

01:30:54.480 is that

01:30:56.060 like

01:30:58.120 couples could not marry across

01:31:01.040 tribal lines. 0.99

01:31:02.800 So like

01:31:03.900 an

01:31:05.100 Atlantic tribesman 0.74

01:31:08.340 couldn't go find a wife over there 0.90

01:31:10.800 in the Cheruski because 0.92

01:31:12.440 they were, you know, there were these

01:31:14.560 broad lines of separations

01:31:17.300 even among those tribal peoples there's also the and something even better documented in you know

01:31:24.020 is the um the way that the native americans that's not the right word the indian tribes

01:31:33.220 that were here on north america when um when we discovered the continent

01:31:39.220 um you know the name that they typically had for themselves just meant human beings like

01:31:48.100 Cherokee each tribe you know we are the people and those other people on the other side of the

01:31:56.140 hill over there they're not people they're the non-people and so these sharp lines of division

01:32:04.600 have always existed between and among people and it's only if it was cool why will you remark on 0.91

01:32:13.160 hell skin like that's the thing if it was cool we wouldn't have strange terms for mulatto bob over 0.54

01:32:24.900 there it wouldn't be remarkable the fact that it's remarkable means that that was not ordinary 0.75

01:32:31.480 and that was a odd thing and it could you know i mean and it could you know his skin could be two

01:32:38.800 shades darker than the other you know he could be ecru instead of parchment and they would have

01:32:46.680 thought of him as dark skin you know so it's the so what exactly that means yeah you know it's

01:32:55.400 we have a lot of we have people that try to reinvent history in a very disingenuous way

01:33:03.320 you can think that all of a sudden you and your cult of social justice wokeness you guys are the

01:33:09.160 only ones who have ever known the right way to do things and you discovered it

01:33:12.920 in 2015 and everybody else has been confused if that's what you believe then have the

01:33:20.360 intellectual courage to stand on that don't co-op the rest of western civilization to pretend that

01:33:27.320 was always the case because it wasn't um and there's nothing more that says that the other

01:33:32.760 thing i'll say a little bit about the lore and the icr versus the vanir or the or the yotan yotnar um

01:33:40.600 similar to what Alan was saying that's not about like different races of people that is about

01:33:56.440 cosmic and fundamental gods that exist in a way that we can't fully comprehend so we describe

01:34:06.880 them in terms that make sense like tribes of of people because they were different groupings of

01:34:15.760 great celestial cosmic god forces interacting there was cosmic order and natural law

01:34:26.880 gods interacting with one another in a way and there were primal

01:34:31.360 beings of metaphysical existence with the yotnar some inclined to destruction and chaos others

01:34:40.840 unconscious others just kind of neutral in things talking about bigger cosmic forces

01:34:50.360 in an overly personified way is a way that's still useful for us today to wrap our human heads

01:35:00.260 around things that exist in a much bigger way than we fully can comprehend. And so we draw

01:35:07.860 pictures on what we're used to. It's important to remember that our ancestors didn't live in a world

01:35:13.760 where they encountered any of these other people. It was very rare that somebody would travel

01:35:20.420 far enough to where they see a different race of person. You saw some different varieties of white

01:35:29.540 people you saw probably your entire life you only saw nordic people but maybe you saw an irish slave

01:35:38.500 maybe you went raiding or trading and you saw a frenchman or a pole or a german but these people

01:35:47.540 weren't regularly encountering a chinaman or a sub-saharan african that wasn't part of their

01:35:55.380 experience and it had no relationship to how they conceptualized their lore it just wasn't a part

01:36:03.140 of what they dealt with and i think that any fair looking at history the in-group preference there

01:36:11.540 is the norm and a very very easily under understandable thing so i don't think that's

01:36:16.100 a hard one and i don't think the one asking the question thought it was i think he was just you

01:36:20.180 know wanted our reaction to it um next up

01:36:30.020 greetings all's here you go with you matt law speaker alan and folk builder nick what is the

01:36:36.420 faustian bargain and how is it related to our people i've heard it used occasionally thank

01:36:43.220 Thank you for all you do. You're welcome. Alan, do you want to explain the concept of the Faustian

01:36:51.020 bargain? Sure. Sure. I'll take a stab at it since I was the one who brought it into the conversation.

01:36:57.600 We are restless. That's the Faustian bargain, as I understand it.

01:37:03.800 You know, we we are a restless people, right? That's why we go out and conquer and explore.

01:37:09.580 And, you know, we always want to know what's right, what's over the next horizon. We're not settled. We are restless. And I think it's referred to, again, my understanding, I think it's referred to as the Faustian bargain because in some ways it's a good thing, right?

01:37:30.560 We, because we, because of our restlessness, we found our way to North America and all of its bounty and its island continental protectorate that, that has been such a boon to all of the American peoples.

01:37:51.260 And it's taught us, you know, I mean, we've dug into how things work.

01:37:56.940 You know, that's how we discovered electricity and all, you know, for all the good and ill that it has brought.

01:38:07.740 The downside of that is that we are, you know, is that very same restlessness brings about that thing where, you know, we leave our family, right?

01:38:20.660 Like, OK, Pop, you're staying here. I'm going to go west. And then his kids will go west. And, you know, we have to explore. And so we separate our families and do those things because we are always, often, we have the urge to make more, make better, make, expand and strengthen ourselves individually and our civilization.

01:38:50.660 at the cost of that idea of being settled and peaceful and being in that place where, you know,

01:39:01.820 like generations of Flavels can just kind of grow around us because we are all just sitting in the

01:39:08.380 same place, being in the same spot. And that's the downside of that bargain. Yes, it has given us

01:39:14.940 great increase in wealth and uh empire um but at the cost of being always unsettled in our

01:39:28.620 familial and intertribal relations so yeah i want to expand on that i

01:39:36.940 like it and don't like it and it's something that cliff and i've talked about recently

01:39:41.340 conceptually I like it the term takes on unnecessary baggage so um

01:39:56.820 it's a reference to a uh play by

01:40:03.660 I believe about Faust and Faust was a man who

01:40:08.340 literally made a deal with the devil in order to learn secrets, learn secret knowledge,

01:40:17.300 to break mental barriers to accomplish things. And it ties it in with a

01:40:26.560 diabolism, if that's a word that I don't think, I don't think expresses what typically is meant

01:40:36.380 when the term's used so yes it is our instinct that's inborn in us as a race to build more to

01:40:47.420 always push the horizon to discover to conquer to explore to build more to run faster to lift more

01:41:01.100 to learn more things to explore space to explore the depths of medical knowledge or whatever else

01:41:11.180 we always want to improve and to get more and increase and uh i think that it also encapsulates

01:41:20.620 the inherent uneasiness that that causes because we're never and i feel some of this intensely and

01:41:28.780 probably to my wife's chagrin in a lot of ways i'm never going to be satisfied and especially 0.73

01:41:37.100 in an afa context and i think it's one thing that probably makes me a pain in the butt to be around 0.85

01:41:45.020 but i think it's beneficial i think is beneficial to us in a bigger way is

01:41:51.500 tonight i am very proud to announce phrasehoff don't think for a second that i'm not immediately

01:42:03.980 like probably more than is appropriate focused on exact plans for tiershoff and then what to

01:42:12.940 do at braggieshoff and if immediately we had all 14 hoffs that i have currently planned

01:42:21.500 okay, cool. But what about the next 25? Right. And I don't, I don't disavow that.

01:42:33.040 But it is obnoxious. And it is, there are costs that come with it. And I think that it's,

01:42:39.460 it's instructive to look at the advice specifically put in the mouth of Odin. Now,

01:42:48.120 Now, Odin, we all know that he is the prime example of questing for greater knowledge,

01:43:00.700 greater power, doing these things.

01:43:03.860 Our lore is rich with that, but he advises in the Habamal that it is best for man to

01:43:11.760 be middling wise.

01:43:14.300 And there's a lot of wisdom to that.

01:43:16.620 and it's the question that i ask all of our gothar students when they start wanting to become a gothi

01:43:26.220 you read the warning label are you choosing to forego that warning

01:43:31.980 and pursue knowing things that you may not want to know

01:43:36.780 when you look too deeply into things you inevitably bear a burden for that there is a cost

01:43:45.100 to being restless in your exploration of things it is much easier to float by and not know and

01:43:53.820 just be content you know watching tv and you know doing whatever you're doing there's a cost when

01:44:03.900 you want to become a fuller version of your potential a fuller man or a woman to rise up

01:44:13.420 to a level of nobility because there is a burden that comes with knowing what you don't want to

01:44:18.540 know there is also a responsibility that comes with things because when you know things then

01:44:25.260 you have an obligation to act a certain way or not if you didn't know you can always like ah you know

01:44:30.940 it's not my fault i didn't i didn't know any better well what about when you do know better

01:44:35.580 and that's something to consider so there is a a cost to be paid by that for that

01:44:44.340 pushing forward of boundaries and becoming more than we are and i think that is very specific to

01:44:54.560 us as a race and people have talked about that and i think that other other groupings of of

01:45:02.960 earth fauna probably have different explanations for this in their own context. But from our

01:45:09.980 perspective, we are the group of people that innovates, discovers, creates, does all these

01:45:17.640 things. And we don't see that, certainly not in the same way and not to the same proportion

01:45:23.480 in other groups of people. And it's something that I'm very proud of about our folk.

01:45:28.780 do we know when there will be a dedication this is in reference to those of you just joining us

01:45:36.760 we have phrase off we have phrase off in Austin Town Ohio there's a beautiful picture of beautiful

01:45:45.220 phrase it is amazing it really is a beautiful building it's awesome so yeah there you have it

01:45:55.420 do we know about a dedication we do plan as it is now as the dedication is going to be December the

01:46:02.860 6th that is the plan it is in stone but it may be a softer stone than granite I'm not sure you

01:46:13.360 can ask Witten Erickson it is it is set in stone um you know barring any hiccups on the way I

01:46:21.760 believe that Witten Svahn is going to be in the early part of

01:46:26.680 November painting the mural of Lord Frayer there and it's an

01:46:37.240 awesome spot it's not a fixer-upper it's pretty turnkey in

01:46:40.720 a lot of ways so it's a we are very very fortunate with the

01:46:46.960 building that we found, and the blessings that we have received.

01:46:52.160 So yeah, it exists.

01:46:54.720 It's there.

01:46:55.720 I'm sure if you happened up there, you would have some people eager to show you around,

01:47:00.080 but the official dedication is looking like it's going to be December the 6th.

01:47:04.080 It will certainly be in 2025.

01:47:08.200 So we are very excited.

01:47:10.600 It's going to be awesome.

01:47:11.680 It's going to be amazing.

01:47:12.680 already is awesome and amazing, and I can't get over how excited I am about it, so indulge me.

01:47:23.000 Specific question I alluded to a little bit earlier in our parenting conversation

01:47:26.920 that comes into play. Oh, so before we get to that, a parenting thing I wanted to mention.

01:47:32.040 everybody and i mean everybody the forces of good and the forces of evil have

01:47:46.160 definitive ideas about exactly how you should raise your kids in every circumstance and very

01:47:54.880 often you either raise your kid exactly like i'm saying or they are doomed and it's all done and

01:48:01.920 you have failed as a parent i don't know i assume that continues throughout childhood to parents

01:48:12.080 i know that as new parents mandy and i encountered that a lot

01:48:17.200 don't allow yourself to be beaten down by analysis paralysis on it there are lots of

01:48:31.280 right ways to do this there are lots what's important is navigating away from the wrong

01:48:38.240 ways to do it there's a lot more right ways to do it something that meant a lot and i'm not

01:48:44.960 i don't want to dig too deep in this subject i will if we get questions or whatever

01:48:50.480 i know we have members out there that you know their kids are fully vaccinated with all the

01:48:55.520 stuff and we have people that are very hard hardline fundamental anti-vax don't believe in

01:49:01.920 that and we have a lot of people that are somewhere in between on it i will say and

01:49:07.520 this isn't preaching actually this is is just our experience as parents um mandy and i weren't

01:49:14.960 that fundamentally anti-vax would never have described ourselves that way.

01:49:20.920 I think I'm starting to be at a point where I would describe myself that way,

01:49:25.620 but it didn't start there.

01:49:30.000 But we were trying to look into it, and it was scary because we were, you know,

01:49:34.200 we had parents later in life, or we had, sorry, we had parents very early in life.

01:49:38.700 As a matter of fact, we became parents later in life.

01:49:44.960 We had Aubrey when we were both 39 years old, and, you know, you're trying to make the best decision you can, 0.92

01:49:52.000 and you have one camp of people telling you any vaccine, your kid's immediately going to be retarded. 0.96

01:49:57.820 You're going to ruin your kid's life because of the vaccine. 0.99

01:50:00.380 And then the other side, no, if you don't get your kids 100% vaccinated with all this stuff, 0.97

01:50:06.600 you are a terrible person, and your child might as well just be dead right there

01:50:12.300 because every bad thing's going to happen to them, 1.00

01:50:15.420 there's a lot of stress that people get put under.

01:50:22.280 Don't let that do that to you.

01:50:25.220 Make decisions based on what you believe is right

01:50:28.100 and trust that people have been having children

01:50:31.400 that make it to adulthood that are very successful

01:50:34.120 for thousands and thousands of years

01:50:36.860 or else we would not be here.

01:50:38.040 you are literally created to be able to do that.

01:50:46.680 We had a lot of people, a lot of influences trying to scare us on a lot of things.

01:50:51.840 I will be very appreciative.

01:50:53.460 I will forever be appreciative of the pediatrician that Aubrey has.

01:50:59.880 So if for those of you playing at home, if you're doing the math or whatever,

01:51:04.480 Aubrey's five. We had her in 2020 and in April during when the COVID madness was hitting its

01:51:15.540 height. I was very scared that I wasn't going to get to be there for her birth because this was

01:51:21.220 the time that they were starting to not allow that certain places. And I was real worried that

01:51:27.520 they wouldn't let me be there. Fortunately, they did. But our pediatrician, during all of this,

01:51:36.240 you know, he would do all the things he's supposed to do to be medically licensed and whatever else.

01:51:43.560 But we dealt with a lot of people that had a lot of ingrained medical trying to force us to get

01:51:50.780 stuff done. Well, we chose not to get her vaccinated with things. And, you know, he would

01:51:57.120 ask because he's obliged to ask. And when we were like, no, thank you. He was fine. And when we

01:52:04.120 expressed fears or concerns, you know, trying to do it right, I appreciate that he took his mask

01:52:11.520 down and he said, you know, if you guys want to get her vaccinated, she's probably going to be

01:52:18.940 all right. And if you guys don't, she's probably going to be all right, probably going to be just

01:52:25.040 fine. And that, that was meaningful. I'm glad that he afforded us that compassionate, you know,

01:52:37.080 letting us make decisions for our child without trying to unduly pressure us on it. It was nice

01:52:43.140 to have that interaction, and a lot of parents don't get that. There's a lot of right ways to

01:52:49.400 do stuff, and we're all going to make different decisions. What I have seen in House of True that

01:52:55.600 I don't like, and I don't want for you guys, and I don't want for any of us, is a,

01:53:02.620 again a paralysis by analysis or a um abdication of parental responsibility because too hard

01:53:13.420 you don't want to put up with the complaining or the backlash or the nonsense for things you think

01:53:19.580 so you just let it ride and you're like oh when they're when they're adults then we'll

01:53:23.620 be able to talk and then they can make decisions they can as as your homie but it's your job to

01:53:32.140 parent them while you're your children um yeah you can be the cool parent and then you can you

01:53:40.060 know spend another 30 40 years as as their friend but you've got a really important window to be

01:53:47.980 their parent and to indoctrinate them oh bad word no it's not indoctrinate them with the things that

01:53:56.620 you believe firmly with your firm sincere convictions um that is the right

01:54:05.740 yeah do but but here's the thing think about it do the best you can and have the courage

01:54:17.100 to take on the responsibility of parenting your child don't leave that to someone else

01:54:23.580 Maybe it's a spouse that you're, you're separated from. Maybe it's, you know, stuff your parents

01:54:30.060 want you to do or stuff, any other person. No, be an active parent to your child when you can.

01:54:39.840 Just please do that because I think it's really important.

01:54:45.020 And I'll add this next bit on an answer to the question. I'll get to the question here,

01:54:49.060 but it was something I wanted to say earlier that I thought was important.

01:54:53.320 You're going to have parents telling you what the kids can eat.

01:54:55.920 Well, that's too much complex carbohydrates.

01:54:58.220 A lot of people have ideas and a lot of people mean well.

01:55:04.280 You can do this, and you have the freedom to choose from a wide spectrum of things

01:55:09.820 of how you raise your kids.

01:55:11.680 You can adjust on the fly, and you can learn as you go.

01:55:14.420 but make sure you're actively engaged and you're doing the best that you know how to with the

01:55:21.160 information available to you and you can do this um so the question is how do we raise our kids

01:55:29.660 with white positive values in an anti-white world we don't want to shelter them too much

01:55:36.060 but we don't want them to be swayed by the masses either alan what do you say to that

01:55:41.940 If I was doing it now and had cooperation, you know, first of all, I would start with raising, you know, with homeschooling the kids, you know, using the All's True Academy screen.

01:56:01.280 Um, uh, I would get, there you go. Um, I would, uh, make sure that you, like all your textbooks were written before 1964. Um, because that's when all the important stuff happened anyway.

01:56:23.280 Um, and, you know, I think it's important if your kids are now at homeschooling, it's not possible for everybody.

01:56:40.500 Um, so if your kids are in government school, as so many of them are, and this is what I did.

01:56:50.460 First of all, I read to my kids a lot. I read lots of classical books to my kids. So they were exposed to, you know, the to real literature.

01:57:04.520 um and also i think it's important to talk to kids especially that um you know the young

01:57:14.760 tweens maybe where they start to start getting a sense of history and those you know a vector

01:57:22.440 of history you know what did you guys talk about in history today you know look at their history

01:57:28.200 book um and when they're i mean i'm not you know i know it takes an extra 15 minutes out of your day

01:57:36.040 to um interact with your child but that's the important stuff so that you can put the right gloss

01:57:42.440 on the historical events that led us to where we are so

01:57:50.920 So I would say first, so this is, I guess, self-serving, or of course I'm going to say

01:58:11.820 this but the reason for that is the holistic nature of our faith and doing also true right

01:58:25.900 yes because i'm all in on the afa and i'm all in on the afa because it's the right thing to

01:58:30.700 do in the right place to be so yes i would encourage you as a first step

01:58:35.660 up raise them in the house of true folk assembly raise them from day one

01:58:47.020 in trough with the ice ear to where our gods are involved in your parenting in your

01:58:54.860 relationship in your marriage and in your raising of your children from the very outset

01:59:01.340 build the best you can a home for them physically but importantly like mentally and spiritually

01:59:13.540 of a home base to approach the world on that's built around our folk our faith our gods our

01:59:23.600 community and our values to where that's what their norm is and when they go out into the world

01:59:29.720 they can come back to something that's a place of the world as it should be do that because I think

01:59:37.960 that matters and I think it resonates and I think that when people venture far from that

01:59:42.460 they're able to have those touchstones mentally and emotionally to connect back to things as

01:59:49.440 they should be and to pass those things on to their children try to facilitate them building

01:59:58.420 friendships with other children who are in the AFA. Encourage that and help those relationships

02:00:06.580 grow. If you're able to live in a place where there's other AFA members, do that. If you want

02:00:14.640 to do that, come do that with me in Jackson County, Tennessee. I'd love to be part of helping

02:00:20.060 you do that. But if not, wherever you find yourself, try to do that. The other thing that

02:00:26.660 would say that's really big is um the astro academy i'm so proud that that's a thing it is

02:00:36.900 legitimate in unaltered it's legitimate and i believe 46 states with a little bit of tweaking

02:00:46.340 that i believe our staff is now able to help you do it is um effective in all 50 and i'm told in

02:00:53.700 some canadian provinces so our international audience i can't do the best i can for you but

02:00:59.780 i don't have all the answers on that because rules differ certain places um but yeah homeschool your

02:01:06.740 kids if you're able understand everybody's not able and do the best you can some of you not able

02:01:13.540 we could still get you children's religious materials and lessons it's a very good point

02:01:20.340 so you don't have to be all in you can do something different and still have the benefit

02:01:25.220 of the religious teachings and other stuff in the astro academy we rely heavily on the um

02:01:31.300 the waldorf curriculum waldorf method is something that is aligns well with our values was built for

02:01:42.580 our people and our needs in a really natural way again there's a lot of right ways to do it

02:01:49.540 that's one that we happen to like and encourage in that

02:01:55.460 but again if you're able to do that um something else that i i'd say

02:02:04.500 be involved in your kid's life and be

02:02:11.620 be the person you either want your kid to become or that you want your kid to marry and build a

02:02:18.180 life with like that crosses both genders on on whatever be that person of the example of the

02:02:27.460 best aryan man or the best aryan woman so your kids have something to shoot for and see it 0.81

02:02:36.180 displayed in a real way and i don't mean tell them about it of course you'll tell them about it

02:02:40.660 But example is so important because example cuts through all of the barriers we have with intellectualism and argumenting or argumentation and all those things when they feel a certain way because of what they see you do or how they interact with you.

02:03:02.160 that matters in a way that that circumvents argument or resistance and gets internalized

02:03:12.860 and imprinted be the example you don't need to be perfect none of us are perfect

02:03:18.680 but be a good person and somebody likable don't become the bad guy don't fall into the trap of

02:03:28.340 becoming the, you know, evil mean spirited person that the

02:03:35.480 forces of chaos would portray us don't do that. Because that

02:03:40.700 encourages them to rebel and like go the opposite direction.

02:03:44.900 And that is not not what you want to do. The more they can

02:03:50.040 have good example in their life. I think the better equipped they

02:03:54.020 And the more they have people and a home of people that care about them in like a nuclear sense, but also in a community sense, I think that positions them really well. And I encourage you to try to work on all of those steps. And if you're in the AFA, we have a lot of people that are trying to do those exact things at the same time. And as best I can, I want to facilitate those people doing those things together.

02:04:24.020 What else we got?

02:04:30.300 If a white person likes listening to rap music, do they lose their white card?

02:04:37.580 Alan, what say you?

02:04:42.360 Well, if you're listening to kneecap, then I think you're okay.

02:04:49.660 or

02:04:51.320 what's the group?

02:05:01.240 Come on, Public Enemy.

02:05:02.620 That's a good rap.

02:05:05.360 Alan is a long-time

02:05:07.140 fan of Flavor Flav.

02:05:09.060 I am.

02:05:10.300 Boy!

02:05:13.680 There you go.

02:05:14.880 Things you may not have known.

02:05:16.160 what time

02:05:19.560 is it 0.73

02:05:21.520 Flavor Flavor is ridiculous

02:05:27.060 if I had to support one I'd support 0.86

02:05:29.400 Professor Griff I guess

02:05:33.100 of that group

02:05:34.380 speaking of which you know what that's funny because you know

02:05:37.220 if you're drawn to rap

02:05:39.160 you should check out Professor Elemental

02:05:41.160 so

02:05:42.460 the gentleman rapper

02:05:44.360 All of this to say, we all have thoughts throughout the day. Only so many of those

02:05:55.340 thoughts do we choose to express. If one of your thoughts is how much you enjoy rap music,

02:06:03.100 that's a thought that you might want to direct inward and not outward. If you direct that outward

02:06:11.460 in mixed company, you might well lose your white card. 0.98

02:06:16.900 Take a punch out of it. Clip your corner. Clip a corner 1.00

02:06:19.480 off of it. Once you've had your corner clipped, it's hard

02:06:23.560 to get it all the way back. Yeah, it'll forever

02:06:27.100 be marred in some way, so

02:06:30.660 some thoughts are best left on the inside.

02:06:36.960 Witten Allen,

02:06:37.840 where do you get that hammer that's the nicest skein hammer i've seen this hammer um this when

02:06:49.600 i first found also true um back in the fine i'll in 2005 when i found my way uh home to the folk

02:07:01.240 One of the very first places I went was the Austertru Alliance, and so this hammer was bought through their store and blessed by Valgaard Murray at my request.

02:07:16.140 um and then i bought the chain had a jeweler a local jeweler here i fixed the chain through the

02:07:26.180 thing but this is they they called it the big swede because it is a um

02:07:34.180 a historic replica it you know it was um based on a find somewhere in sweden that they uh they

02:07:45.780 mocked up this hammer from and yes it is a and i and thank you for that compliment it is

02:07:52.740 a beautiful piece and one that i wear literally all the time

02:07:57.060 so i apologize for my anglicized mispronunciation of uh that province state of uh of uh sweden

02:08:10.900 skin i think is how you pronounce it in svenska i'm not sure looks like skein

02:08:18.340 but i don't think it's pronounced that way um what's up next

02:08:24.500 Matt and Alan my 11 year old in boy scouts is being bullied uh in in quotation marks or in

02:08:42.500 parentheses rather covert mild striking and threats to kill him by a 15 year old uh patrol

02:08:50.180 leader, it's being excused as boys being boys, I disagree. When would you draw the line between

02:08:57.500 boys being boys and taking it as a violation and abuse of the patrol leader's power? Help

02:09:04.200 a mom out here. Alan, what say you? Well, that's certainly a couple of things. Boys

02:09:16.520 will be boys. Good night, Aubrey. But, you know, there's a, you know, there's a line

02:09:28.460 that obviously is being crossed. First, I would, I assume that you're documenting this

02:09:35.320 through, you know, through the hierarchy of the pack, like with the, I forget now what

02:09:44.400 the upper levels of, you know, but I'm just like the PAC leaders, you know, the parents who are

02:09:50.740 in charge of this troop are hopefully being made aware that that's going on, number one. And then

02:09:57.420 I'll tell you like two stories that make me very proud as a parent.

02:10:04.260 um my oldest son was being bullied by an older boy um in elementary school and i and i just i

02:10:15.860 picked it up because like i you know i could just tell from his vibe he didn't want to go to school

02:10:19.940 he wasn't the happy bright like yay i'm going to school didn't take very long asked him what's

02:10:27.860 going on he said this kid's bullying me um i said next time he does it knock him down

02:10:34.300 and so like the kid got in his face that day and um my boy grabbed him by the chest swept his legs

02:10:46.960 out from under him landed on top of him and said leave me alone and the kid never bothered him

02:10:52.500 again and you know that's one of those pivotal moments i think and you know because i let i gave

02:10:58.660 him permission to stand up for himself um it happened again later um and again it was a it's

02:11:05.620 odd it was a similar age difference we were having a party at the house and the kids were playing

02:11:10.480 basketball and all of a sudden i mean there's melee on the basketball court and pressing to

02:11:19.640 took a swing at this kid, and so the other kid gets on top of him, much older.

02:11:27.340 Again, I think the ages were not – if it wasn't 11, 15, it was very close to that.

02:11:32.880 It was 12 and 16 or 10 and 13, whatever.

02:11:36.000 But the other kid was older, bigger, and – but before he could – I pulled him apart,

02:11:44.000 and my boy told me he was calling me names i was blocking his shots i was you know i was

02:11:53.520 um inner you know i was playing well and the kid didn't like it was calling names so

02:12:00.040 my boy took him down and like he said punched him i'm like good you know that's he had it coming

02:12:07.140 And then I, having had three or four beers myself, I gave his, his, I gave that kid's father a good tongue lashing too.

02:12:18.860 So as long as the stuff is being reported up the chain, I mean, I would have no qualms saying like the next time that 15 year old thumps your kid's ear or whatever,

02:12:32.760 I'd turn around and smack him right in the button, right here,

02:12:37.500 right in the sternum, and just knock his wind out. 0.94

02:12:40.580 I mean, you don't want to go for the face,

02:12:41.900 and it's unfair to go for the cods, but otherwise, the kid's got to come out.

02:12:50.400 So details matter.

02:12:53.260 um alan is a is a father of boys and a you know eminent legal mind he knows these things

02:13:04.600 in a in a way the rest of us don't i would say that's not legal advice that's parenting advice

02:13:11.380 i'm i'm just saying you you have you have wisdom that transcends uh the regular parenting experience

02:13:18.640 in a way um yeah document stuff it's really important that you document stuff everybody

02:13:25.920 document things documenting is important um but the other thing is

02:13:32.640 you ask you know boys being boys maybe but it doesn't mean that it shouldn't be responded to

02:13:39.040 we talked earlier you know kids test boundaries all the time with each other with other things

02:13:44.560 it might be boys being boys we live in a world today that's a little bit scarier to where you

02:13:51.860 have to you know take a different look at that sometimes but just because it is doesn't mean

02:13:58.700 that something shouldn't be done or your kid shouldn't assert himself what i think is really

02:14:04.240 important is the less it looks like mommy stepping in and asserting herself for him

02:14:11.920 the better served he is going to be right and i don't know your son um so i can't every kid's

02:14:19.240 different but if he's able to assert himself and do it himself that's going to be very beneficial

02:14:28.800 if he's not and it needs to be done a different way just being very aware that the more it looks

02:14:39.300 like mommy stepping in and asserting herself for him he's going to suffer consequences of that

02:14:46.820 socially as well too and it's something to think about and you know and the more that you make like

02:14:53.380 if you tell them to bottle it up you know that's you know that also has negative long-term

02:14:59.000 consequences and you know and if it's being passed off like oh it's just boys being boys

02:15:04.500 Well, so is getting smacked in the face of a two-by-four.

02:15:09.540 Again, I wouldn't go to a weapon right to begin with. 0.87

02:15:12.600 So is getting your wind knocked out of you, you know, with a sucker punch.

02:15:17.760 Because, you know, when you're the smaller kid, you're entitled to the first punch.

02:15:23.640 Yeah.

02:15:24.080 You know, you don't need to give them warning. 0.99

02:15:28.000 If you find yourself in a fair fight, your tactics suck. 0.93

02:15:31.660 so it's funny because this is the voice of reason that's always in my head when i don't 0.88

02:15:38.340 overspeak when i'm worried about giving questionable questionably legally defensible

02:15:44.540 advice this is the person i would call to ask for it so i find the situation we're in humorous and

02:15:51.660 i in no way disagree um so yeah there you have it no seriously i don't none of us mean to make

02:15:58.260 light of it if it's something that genuinely is messing with your kid and making him scared or

02:16:03.500 making him uncomfortable and it's persistent I would say of all the options mentioned the bottling

02:16:09.940 it up option is the one I would recommend least um that's that's very seldom the way to go so it's

02:16:16.980 important it matters and I appreciate you coming to us and asking us about it and I would venture

02:16:22.300 this uh I would volunteer the law speaker if you wanted to give them a call and if they were more

02:16:27.820 If there were more to it that was necessary to flesh out in more detail, I think he'd be happy to have that conversation with you.

02:16:35.760 1,000%.

02:16:37.820 Have you seen the AFA's Wikipedia page lately?

02:16:45.260 It looks a bit more fair and honest and less butthurt than it was in the past.

02:16:50.880 It changed the wording from white supremacist to white nationalist, internationalized true organization.

02:16:57.180 we're white nationalist international

02:17:05.580 there you go that's that's a we're worldwide but nationalists okay and even and even lists off all

02:17:14.940 of the hops where they are and they were when they were acquired among other things

02:17:22.140 Alan are you aware of recent changes to the afa's wikipedia page i'm not and i and i i'm boycotting

02:17:32.140 the um afa's wikipedia page because because like two times ago when i looked at it it had a

02:17:40.300 discussion about um the time when uh me and you and pat hall stepped into uh the breach and picked

02:17:51.340 up the leadership mantle of the afa and then then several months later i looked at it again

02:17:57.660 and that part was gone so now i'm off the wikipedia page so what do i have to look at

02:18:05.580 yeah the wikipedia has been kind of funny for a long time it was as if

02:18:14.220 steve did stuff and then he passed the torch in 2016 and then nothing's happened 0.57

02:18:21.340 And that's insulting and ridiculous. Lots of really cool things happen. And it sounds like

02:18:27.660 that is reflected at least in some way. And that was kind of my standard on Wikipedia.

02:18:34.220 No part of me has ever thought Wikipedia is going to be fair or going to be, and I think this is the

02:18:41.120 fair assessment, glowingly celebrating the AstroFolk assembly. But it was like intentionally,

02:18:48.220 Normally, I had hoped that even with a negative slant, it would at least factually mention important things that happened, like the questioner or the guy who brought it to our attention mentioned, like, hey, it got this Hoff this time, it did this cool thing, it's doing this other thing, it has these food pantries at every one of our Hoffs.

02:19:11.880 I was hoping that even if the tone was begrudging or negative, they would at least factually

02:19:21.260 mention the data points of interesting things.

02:19:27.380 And for a long time, it wouldn't.

02:19:28.900 We've had a number of people try to update it and to add to it, and it was gatekept by

02:19:35.560 by very ideologically opposed forces for a really long time that wouldn't allow anybody

02:19:43.520 to even you know change points of fact or you know add you know unbiased points of fact

02:19:52.040 things there so I'm glad that it's made progress I'm uh yeah I'm glad that it's better than

02:20:00.500 it was. I think that Wikipedia is an ever-changing frontier, but I'm glad it has some cool stuff on

02:20:07.180 there. I have not looked at it in a long time, so I was not aware of these changes.

02:20:16.520 I saw another question that came through. Matt and Alan, what are your thoughts on

02:20:21.080 gentle parenting versus spanking? Seems like real gentle parenting results in little tyrants

02:20:27.540 in my experience. Alan, do you have thoughts on gentle

02:20:31.500 spanking or gentle parenting versus spanking?

02:20:38.780 Yes, I do have thoughts about that. I was reading our

02:20:41.140 Wikipedia page. It didn't mention me.

02:20:45.940 So, yes.

02:20:52.460 Here's what I think.

02:20:54.060 Like, and the way that, first of all, the term is discipline, right?

02:20:59.340 It's not punishment.

02:21:00.640 So, yes, you should, I think spanking is, I wouldn't call it a last resort, 0.95

02:21:09.480 but I, you know, but I think it's a tool that you have to keep in the bag.

02:21:20.980 I know boys and girls are different.

02:21:24.060 I think girls respond more to deprivation type parenting or, you know, punishment.

02:21:34.860 We certainly did a lot of time outs with our kids, you know, for, you know, one minute per year.

02:21:41.700 So for like a four year old, having to stand in the corner for four minutes is an eternity and is enough to curb most of the errant behaviors.

02:21:54.060 So one of the things that I think with, again, with discipline, one of the things that we found worked really well is to state expectations, right?

02:22:05.500 We are going into this grocery store.

02:22:07.520 You're going to sit in the cart and you're going to behave.

02:22:13.860 And most of the time that worked.

02:22:16.720 um now all that being said if you don't have some nuclear weapon out there at the chain of

02:22:28.060 at the end chain of this reasoning right if you don't have like if you try this and you try that

02:22:34.620 and the kids still acting out if there's no if there's never a real punishment

02:22:40.280 then a lot kids kids test your boundaries and i mean that's what they do that's what they're for

02:22:47.480 and so they are going to push it all the way out to the out to pass the outer limit so yes i think

02:22:55.920 kids boys especially maybe need to be spanked occasionally just so that they know

02:23:03.160 that the you know that that threat is real that being said you know it you know it should be rare

02:23:14.560 and just you know only for the right occasion um and not and never to excess um

02:23:22.620 you know one of the it's funny i still remember that you know one of the one of the books that

02:23:28.880 we went by and it worked really well for us is called was called one two three parenting i think

02:23:35.580 was the name of it but you know you tell them three times and like if they don't do it after

02:23:41.060 the third time then there's punishment but again you have to do it every time right you have to be

02:23:48.300 consistent if you ever let it go and say you know if you you know if you pull that you know if you

02:23:56.180 knock that blind down one more time, I'm going to let you have it. They do it again and you make

02:24:01.400 another threat. They do it again, you make another threat. They're never going to respect you as a

02:24:07.380 parent. It's just like any other leadership position. If your boss tells you, if you show

02:24:14.600 up late for work one more time, I'm going to dock your pay. You show up late the next day and you

02:24:19.100 you full paid you're never going to be on time same thing i still remember the bumper sticker

02:24:29.500 out in the county one day i was driving around out and you know and on some old

02:24:35.660 farmer's pickup truck it said if you don't spank your kids they may turn out to be democrats

02:24:41.820 there you go so i want to first say alan i share your your frustration i am also not mentioned

02:24:48.780 in the afa's wikipedia page um i feel your pain i think that is an unfortunate oversight um

02:24:59.820 there's a couple of things first i think you're you're certainly spot on about

02:25:05.180 you have to follow through if you say do this or else that

02:25:08.300 i've so i've and again this is coming from five years as a parent so take it for one girl

02:25:21.500 my daughter take it for what's that that's worth um 0.99

02:25:26.540 a spanking does not need to be a savage beating where the the consequence is physical 1.00

02:25:40.700 damage or even physical pain that's not that doesn't have to be and and that shouldn't be the

02:25:48.540 case um so i think some people have some strange ideas of what that means in reality 0.98

02:25:54.540 It is shocking and kind of takes out of the comfort zone that somebody's popping their bubble and giving them a swat on the butt. 0.93

02:26:03.260 But I don't, that's, it's not like a hurting them thing. 0.97

02:26:08.140 That's not really the message of it.

02:26:13.540 And there's, you know, I can think of, I think of twice that I've spanked Aubrey.

02:26:19.160 It was not like savage spanking, but it was one time we were downtown, and she started running amok amongst the street and cars and stuff, and I hollered for her to stop, and she didn't listen, and I was very stern on it.

02:26:40.640 so no i got her and i gave her a swat and i said hey no you listen this is for your safety there's

02:26:46.520 cars here you can get run over you do what i tell you when we're out here because it was important

02:26:52.020 and she didn't know it was important the other one was you know something and i'm like hey if 0.99

02:26:58.140 you say that again i'm gonna give you a spanking and she made the point of like turning around and 1.00

02:27:03.000 looking and saying it again and walking off. Yeah, I got up and I swatted her and she gets it now. 1.00

02:27:10.860 I'm not going to say I'm going to do something and then not, then that's the thing. There's probably

02:27:17.120 a lot of right ways to do it, but don't paint yourself in a corner. Don't draw lines that you

02:27:24.220 don't intend to enforce. Don't say you're going to do things. And sometimes this is a discrepancy

02:27:32.460 against mothers and fathers like different ones of them are better or not at this and sometimes

02:27:39.900 that probably depends on the gender of the kid um but yeah don't tell them if you do this i will do

02:27:48.620 why if you do x then i will do y and then not do y it's really important and you don't you're in

02:27:54.380 control when you make that that uh threat or that promise or whatever you want to phrase it as

02:28:00.380 then just don't say it if you don't want to enforce it it's like you know it's like when

02:28:07.660 people are writing a movie or something else if it doesn't make sense and you can't do it right

02:28:14.380 and it's work of fiction and you wrote it then just don't write yourself in a corner come up

02:28:18.380 with something else if you're in control of the situation you can figure out where to do that or

02:28:24.780 not but them knowing that you mean what you say and you say what you mean and that you follow

02:28:29.100 through with what you say is really important um the magic of counting i don't understand why it

02:28:36.220 works but it does it's really frustrating i feel like that children should just do what the parents

02:28:43.740 tell them sometimes and there wouldn't be a problem i mean just don't like simple things

02:28:50.620 hey aubrey stop playing put on your clothes aubrey we're not playing we're getting dressed

02:28:56.220 get dressed get drunk folk get one two i can't get to three before she's like

02:29:05.020 on task zoned in and it hasn't been accompanied by me adding any kind of threat or any kind of

02:29:12.620 anything to that but the idea of counting to something magically seems to motivate that i

02:29:20.220 I don't know why it works, but it does.

02:29:23.100 It shouldn't have to be like it, but it do.

02:29:27.500 All right.

02:29:30.180 So last question tonight, but I think an interesting one.

02:29:35.540 And again, I have not had this talk, so I would not be informative on this, but Alan might be.

02:29:41.760 What is the appropriate age to have the talk?

02:29:44.440 We live in a hyper-sexualized society today, so it's getting harder to avoid.

02:29:51.840 What say you, law speaker?

02:29:55.620 I let my kids learn the old-fashioned way, you know, from...

02:30:01.080 They watch the farm animals?

02:30:05.580 No, you know, from the older kids in school.

02:30:08.640 Um, you know, probably, you know, the honest answer to the question is, you know, probably around 12, you know, I mean, if I had to put a, put a thumbnail on it, that would probably be, you know, like right before puberty.

02:30:33.480 um just because you know you want like before the hormones take over and make them all crazy

02:30:44.080 apparently that never subsides but um before the hormones set in you know at least

02:30:52.580 let them get a framework established for what's coming because the talk you know is not

02:30:59.440 just about their own sex and procreation.

02:31:06.280 It's also about being, you know, probably maybe especially for girls,

02:31:11.240 but, you know, to be able to rationally defend themselves

02:31:16.240 against inappropriate behavior from other kids directed toward them

02:31:23.620 or inappropriate behavior they made to direct at other kids.

02:31:28.740 I mean, you know, you got to so you got to give them a framework for understanding all that stuff so that it's not tick tock and whatever the rest of the crap is that's out there.

02:31:40.000 Yeah, I think that's an interesting one.

02:31:41.960 I don't know everybody else's experience, but I never had the talk like there was never a formal like, all right, let's sit you down and tell you what goes where and stuff.

02:31:54.360 That didn't that didn't happen.

02:31:57.280 i was able to kind of figure that out through regular interaction and you know the older kids

02:32:06.160 in school that's the way that's the way kids in school the older kids in the neighborhood just

02:32:10.480 like things you catch stuff on tv when you're you know not supposed to be paying attention

02:32:15.840 or you just kind of become aware of stuff gradually over time in a more contextualized way um

02:32:23.200 I think that there's and I think that that's interesting that you brought up because I think

02:32:32.300 that's important there's like don't let people touch you in certain spots talk that's probably

02:32:40.180 real different than this is how babies get made talk and I know the other talk is really important

02:32:48.100 for them to understand young and i think that's a little bit different question i remember in

02:32:55.380 elementary school we would frequently have to watch like and it was kind of paired or at least

02:33:05.300 in my recollection it was paired with the school bus safety videos but there was like

02:33:11.220 don't get run over by the school bus but also don't let people touch you

02:33:19.300 in ways that you don't like talk and it was but it was always strange there was

02:33:28.260 a one we had to watch where it was like dinosaurs like stepping on a cat's tail a bunch and like

02:33:35.540 don't do that i don't like that or something it was some kind of a strange cartoon that really

02:33:42.820 didn't make any sense and then there was different ones you know as we got older but

02:33:51.060 that one is a is an odd one so alan as a as a i guess response

02:33:57.700 how would you address the why you don't go run around naked in public and how you avoid

02:34:09.100 perverts that might have bad intention for you kind of talk

02:34:13.420 sorry my battery was running low I forgot to plug this in

02:34:20.640 Um, I think that, you know, that may even be a talk that needs to happen with younger kids, maybe even just not too long after they start school.

02:34:35.660 Um, you know, looking back, I'm not sure that we ever had that discussion with our kids exactly.

02:34:45.300 mostly because my kids were pretty defensive as it was about stuff and there's and even then

02:34:52.820 you know there's a balance right i i think the although i jokingly said it earlier you know

02:34:59.160 about stranger danger i think that is grossly overstated now um

02:35:05.700 but you know you just you know you certainly want to

02:35:11.480 make

02:35:14.000 and this I think is part of the overall

02:35:17.340 arc

02:35:18.460 of good faith parenting

02:35:21.240 right

02:35:21.740 like you're not your kid's friend

02:35:25.200 but you can be his confidant

02:35:27.120 and

02:35:28.740 you know and that's why

02:35:30.800 like when they tell you stuff you can't

02:35:33.200 be too

02:35:35.140 freaked out about it and there's

02:35:37.020 some other stories that I'll share

02:35:39.060 in personal company in that

02:35:41.100 range but like if so that you can like so that you can know that if something like that ever

02:35:49.000 started to happen that they would tell you and i think that's the important aspect of parenting

02:35:54.500 overall because you can't plan for and anticipate the stuff that's gonna go wacky you know you just

02:36:06.600 have to be kind of open and, and flow with the circumstances. Um, but if your kids know that you

02:36:17.580 have their back and that you're going to stand up for them and do what's right for them and do

02:36:24.100 what's right by them, then they will tell you if, you know, if, if somebody's bullying them or

02:36:30.020 If somebody's, you know, leering at them in the bus or whatever, you know, if they will tell you, and most of the time I think our kids will, then you don't have to be so hypervigilant about all the minutia.

02:36:53.180 Because, yes, there are 100,000 things that can go wrong, but only one or four are going to manifest, and it's going to be the one that you're not looking for.

02:37:06.300 So you just be open to communication from your child, watch his mood, be engaged and mindful in your interactions with them, and you'll be able to pick up on it, just like I picked up on my son's thing about school.

02:37:23.180 all right guys well alan thank you for joining me this evening and talking to us all about

02:37:32.040 parenting with your you know vast experience at it that is certainly beneficial to hear

02:37:38.660 and to learn from and it's a really good topic tonight um everybody be excited we got phrase

02:37:47.200 off in uh austintown uh ohio look behold it's amazing uh hail fray and

02:37:58.640 absolutely so be excited about that because it's really cool and i'm happy to share it

02:38:02.960 and i'm super proud of it and uh so that's the thing also

02:38:08.080 have kids have white babies um if you have six or eight one of them's sure to turn out there you go

02:38:22.160 have an abundance of them and have them with somebody that you plan on 0.96

02:38:26.800 raising them with because that is problematic if you don't

02:38:30.880 um do that and help each other and realize that you have an entire community here in the house

02:38:41.760 true folk assembly that is very invested in helping you to be the best parent you can be

02:38:49.360 and your children to get raised in the best way possible all of us would love to help any of the

02:38:55.040 children in the afa any way we can and help any of the parents in the afa to be supported to be

02:39:03.200 maximally successful um so yeah you're part of a community we're here for you and we're all

02:39:11.840 very invested in the success of your family um and we need to be there for each other

02:39:17.920 and before we leave we talked about phraseoff but there's still one more thing coming up in

02:39:23.840 in a couple weeks that Witten Erickson's got to get done before he can dedicate that

02:39:27.480 off. And you didn't talk about it today. I did not, because the other news

02:39:31.600 kind of overshadowed it. But thank you for reminding us.

02:39:35.900 So,

02:39:37.260 in October, and Nick's going to throw the dates up for me,

02:39:43.720 yay, October 10th through the 12th, we have winter nights in

02:39:47.520 New Hampshire. Winter night's going to be awesome. It's beautiful that

02:39:51.580 time of year up there it is an amazing spot it's on our folk builder ron bordman's property there

02:39:58.860 which is wonderful um it was a great time at that location last year and i'm looking forward to it

02:40:06.800 again this year i will be there i hope that many of you will be there if you want to be there get

02:40:13.040 in touch with your local folk builder they can get you all set up um but yeah i would love to

02:40:18.580 meet you there. Got a lot of cool things to talk about. A number of AFA leaders in the eastern

02:40:26.300 half of the country are going to be up there. The Ericsons are going to be hosting it. They've got

02:40:32.060 a lot of cool things to tell us about, and it would be to your benefit to meet them and make

02:40:37.480 their acquaintance because they're fantastic people. I would love to meet all you guys.

02:40:41.900 it's going to be really cool i am excited for it join us winter nights uh winter nights 14

02:40:50.060 wow time goes by any night waves winter nights 14 in uh in new hampshire this year so join us if you

02:40:57.980 can october 10th through 12th um but yeah with that uh thank you alan and i look forward to

02:41:05.820 talking to you guys next week, if not before. Hail the Aesir, hail the folk, hail frayer,

02:41:11.720 and remember, victory never sleeps.

02:41:35.820 We'll be right back.

02:42:05.820 We'll be right back.

02:42:35.820 Thank you.

02:43:05.820 We'll be right back.

02:43:35.820 Thank you.

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Asatru Folk Assembly - September 25, 2025

9⧸24⧸25 Victory Never Sleeps, Episode 168 - Parenting

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