Asatru Folk Assembly - Allsherjargoði Matt Flavel appears on Know More News with Adam Green 07⧸24⧸2025

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00:01:57.860 ladies and gentlemen adam green here with no more news thank you all for joining me today

00:02:03.440 thursday july 24th 2025 have another guest on the show today coming from the asuch asatru

00:02:13.420 folk assembly he is a leader there a pagan nordic group a lot of requests to have him on the show

00:02:23.080 Be an interesting conversation to hear what he has to say and maybe answer a few questions, clear up some things.

00:02:31.060 So, everybody, welcome our guest.

00:02:34.540 First time on the show, Matthew Flavel.

00:02:38.540 What's up, Matthew? 0.92

00:02:40.820 Nice biblical name you got there for a pagan. 0.95

00:02:43.140 I sympathize with the name. 0.96

00:02:45.420 I couldn't help it.

00:02:46.500 I was not consulted.

00:02:48.100 It's an infant, but thank you for having me on.

00:02:51.300 i'm excited to be on and talk to your audience today yeah yeah uh on the name thing have you

00:02:57.180 thought of a name change do you have a another uh pagan name you go by or anything no i don't do

00:03:03.600 that um old timers in uh you know the early days of the the reforging of house true that used to

00:03:12.460 be a more common thing but that's the name my parents gave me and yep i uh were they christian

00:03:18.860 that and respect that were they christian i suppose nominally if they had to check a box

00:03:26.780 but they certainly weren't you know regular practitioners right yeah but the name obviously

00:03:31.740 comes from the new testament the infamous gospel of matthew so how long have you been involved with

00:03:37.980 asatru and what's your position there and tell us a little bit about it sure um i've been asatru since

00:03:49.180 2001 been a part of the austral folk assembly since 2009 in i started out as a member and i

00:04:00.220 wanted to get more involved and see how i could help i immediately felt at home and like this is

00:04:06.220 what i needed to do with my life so i wanted to see how i could help i started out as a

00:04:09.980 folk builder which is like a local representative i started out doing that in alaska was born and

00:04:16.220 raised in alaska okay did that for a number of years 2012. um as a gothi and the afa gothi is

00:04:25.740 just a word for a priest this year your microphone's having a little bit of issues it's kind of coming

00:04:32.540 in and out right now let me see if i can get that a little bit better that sounds good it works

00:04:40.940 yeah it's roboting a little bit i'm not sure if it's your microphone or it could be the connection

00:04:45.580 or something hold on i'm curious you said you got involved in 2001 but then not officially until

00:04:50.620 2009 is that what you said yeah so i realized that i needed to break from christianity and

00:04:57.420 i came home to believing in our gods then took me a while to kind of find my place and to become

00:05:03.500 actively involved in the house true folk assembly there was nothing going on in my area at the time

00:05:09.180 and that's part of why i became a folk builder is i wanted to fix that

00:05:12.060 so yeah it took me a little bit there um became a gothi in 2012 uh tried to stay as involved as

00:05:22.260 possible and then in 2016 hold on hold on what's a gothi what's a gothi look a gothi is a uh priest

00:05:29.700 of the ice here okay it's a old norse word that you know basically mean a man of the gods

00:05:36.500 it's like a high priest i saw the high priest or is there only one high priest

00:05:42.300 Oh, there's only one high priest.

00:05:44.320 And in 2016, I was made the Alls Harrier Goethe, which is, you know, the Goethe of all the other Goethees.

00:05:52.140 So you're like second in charge?

00:05:54.620 No, I'm like in charge.

00:05:56.080 Oh, in charge.

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00:05:57.300 I thought I saw another guy on red ice.

00:05:59.160 I've seen you on red ice before, but wasn't there an older guy with a white hair, white beard?

00:06:03.180 Yeah, Stephen McNallan, that's our founder.

00:06:05.940 And he stepped back from being the Alls Harrier Goethe in 2016.

00:06:10.120 and midsummer 2016 he passed the torch to me okay all right my apologies i didn't

00:06:18.920 i didn't know you were the guy i didn't know you were in charge so you mentioned there that you

00:06:23.020 started believing in the gods in what way do you believe in the gods and which gods specifically

00:06:29.440 uh the ice here specifically it's the tribe of gods typified by you know the norse lore and the

00:06:40.840 north's nomenclature that your audience probably be familiar ended up by father odin um in what

00:06:49.400 way i suppose that's kind of a broad question um i believe like do you think what specifically do

00:06:55.580 think they're real what i mean is specifically you think they're like actual historical they

00:07:00.540 really happened on earth real in that sense um yes i think they're real in every sense i don't think

00:07:08.060 they are inherently physical though i think they could manifest themselves physically

00:07:14.220 given the right circumstance but yes i think they're absolutely real

00:07:20.540 so you think like thor and odin have manifested in the real world

00:07:25.580 like real in that sense created our folk in the real world and i think they have revealed

00:07:33.420 themselves to our ancestors and to us in different ways um and there is stories of you know the all

00:07:41.880 father appearing physically in um in our lore at different times to different people

00:07:48.340 so you said they created us does that mean you don't believe in evolution

00:07:51.920 so their process and i think that created what created is a strange word because it's kind of a

00:08:02.820 totality of things what our lord tells us is they found something that was and they imbued that with

00:08:10.680 what made us us they imbued that with the elements that make arian man and woman

00:08:17.040 so they only made Aryans or all people all uh all white people all Aryan people so who made 0.72

00:08:28.260 the non-white people then I have no idea no it's a it's kind of a fundamental tenet in the

00:08:35.740 Austro-Folk assembly that each race of people has their own relationship to their divinity 0.84

00:08:41.260 in their own so everybody was made by their own gods

00:08:45.820 i would assume everyone was made by their own gods i know we were made by our gods

00:08:51.880 so i was looking into this a little bit i was reading wikipedia and stuff it looks like it

00:08:58.440 started in ice iceland in the 70s can you tell us a little bit about the growth like how and when

00:09:05.580 it started and and morphed into what it is today right so wikipedia is a biased source on some

00:09:13.280 stuff and their their facts are a little bit sketchy on that what was kind of cool is it

00:09:18.180 started simultaneously around the same time in i don't know what would come to the form it is today

00:09:26.020 in kind of three different places there was um two gentlemen in england that were developing the

00:09:34.280 Odenik Rite, the same time Feinbjorn-Bjantinsson and some of his fellows in Iceland were founding

00:09:43.040 the Astrur-Feleget, and the same exact year that that organization was founded, unbeknownst

00:09:51.640 to one another, our founder, Steve McNallan, founded the Viking Brotherhood that would

00:09:58.340 eventually evolve into what we have as the Astrur-Folk Assembly today.

00:10:02.580 so kind of spontaneously at a number of different places a number of different men

00:10:10.100 felt the calling to come home to our gods and develop it and that's kind of how it came to

00:10:15.540 where it is today i think that looks different and kind of reflects the people who uh that calling

00:10:23.780 took root in uh culturally um iceland icelandic also true certainly looks different and it looked

00:10:33.300 different in the 1970s as uh as the the american version i think because where it took root and

00:10:41.620 people took root from and that was a first generation of people that knew a bit of lore

00:10:47.700 about our ancestors they knew that we needed to come home to our gods but

00:10:53.780 Building something from nothing is always a really unique and daunting challenge.

00:10:58.960 So through a lot of trial and error, a lot of learning, a lot of building relationship with the gods,

00:11:07.020 it evolved over the years to the point that it's out to them and hopefully continues to do so.

00:11:14.260 The Icelanders had a dramatic parting of ways with kind of their founding principles and what it was.

00:11:22.500 um originally it had a lot more in common with the things that we do in recent

00:11:26.860 under the uh leadership of the recent also they have you know gone pretty far uh pretty far woke

00:11:36.960 and unfortunately they no longer claim to actually believe in the gods which is a strange thing for

00:11:43.900 religious organization so the original sect i guess of this you said went woke that's the one

00:11:51.300 that's still in iceland well yeah that was well so that's the thing their organization was founded

00:11:56.060 at the same time our founder was building something here but the australia failure

00:11:59.520 under the original first two also your gothar uh so up until

00:12:07.300 i want to say up until well into the 90s they were a fairly folkish organization and they were

00:12:16.240 very devout more recently no longer devout they no longer claim to believe in the reality of our

00:12:24.600 gods and they've no longer really stand for any of the core principles that define our faith

00:12:31.240 you mentioned starting from scratch so does that mean like in iceland in all of scandinavia had

00:12:37.680 nordic paganism completely been stamped out by christianity there was there's no continuation

00:12:43.720 of it since a thousand years ago before the christians really took over in the north

00:12:48.620 you have isolated hot spots and i can't say there wasn't you know some guy in a cave somewhere but

00:12:55.360 in general as a as something culturally aware of yes as a as a practice faith now there were

00:13:03.140 different moments in time where individuals personally tried to reconnect with the gods

00:13:09.500 and perhaps small groups of people as far as we're aware of in any kind of a organized or

00:13:15.900 a lot of people doing it together since yeah it was pretty well stamped out by christianity and

00:13:23.280 laid dormant until that period in the late 60s and early 70s and you guys resurrected it like

00:13:30.380 what were the sources or the books that were used to learn about it and try to bring back the faith

00:13:37.280 a lot more is translated into certainly into english now than was available to that early

00:13:46.360 generation in the late 60s and early 70s but um specifically both the uh poetic and the prose

00:13:54.420 and the base of the mythology you cut out a bit there you said the poetic the prose but the prose

00:14:03.120 and the lacina which are 15th century icelandic manuscripts in the form we have now

00:14:10.400 were they authored by christians were those authored by christians

00:14:15.920 one of them yes the other it's hard to say because it was a compilation of earlier works

00:14:20.880 it was certainly compiled um by christians at the time because that's who 200 and some odd

00:14:29.840 years after the official conversion it was written by christians because that's all that that's

00:14:34.720 everybody was christian there was nobody else to write about it possibly right but is that is that

00:14:39.520 a criticism you've heard sorry is that a criticism you've heard is that these are unreliable because

00:14:45.040 the christians are the ones telling writing about this absolutely some people

00:14:50.640 say that i think they're incorrect but that is something that certainly encounter

00:14:54.640 i know there's a story written by some jewish guy that says that uh odin was drinking

00:15:01.920 semen or something like that the christians love to bring that up i'm sure you've heard

00:15:06.520 that one before right i have no i have never heard that really does not make any sense and

00:15:12.820 i've never once heard that it's ridiculous you've never even heard that you're saying you never

00:15:17.180 heard it in your own lore or you've never heard a christian so i've never heard i've never heard 0.69

00:15:21.480 that period oh wow you must not be on twitter because the christians say it all every day i

00:15:26.460 see the christians saying it i'm on twitter but there's a lot of people that i don't always read

00:15:33.160 everybody's stuff because i think there's a lot of a lot of nonsense that goes on there

00:15:37.620 so uh did you say it was two books the edda and or was it one book you described is this like the

00:15:45.720 equivalent of the bible in your religion no no but it is a collection of our lore and stories

00:15:53.020 of our ancestors and that's what it was intended at the time and still is today is kind of a

00:15:57.600 documentation what the elder faith was so we have the prose edda and poetic edda

00:16:03.440 roughly from the same time period they're you know maybe a generation apart in their compilation

00:16:11.500 and those are stories about odin thor freya right those are the main ones are there some other main

00:16:19.200 gods that are in that yeah absolutely there's uh moving thor balder uh nyorder frayer freya

00:16:28.020 frig um heimdall ragi vidar valley um forsetti

00:16:37.660 we have a number of gods and goddesses but those are the main ones we focus on oh and tear

00:16:45.420 um i was going to say this for later because i got some still like kind of introductory

00:16:51.180 questions but did you see the the clip from the netflix show about uh norse paganism

00:16:57.560 where they have odin seeing paganism conquered by jesus did you see that here i'll share the

00:17:05.980 screen so you can watch it we'll watch it quick but had you seen it that's what i'm that's what

00:17:11.200 i want to know i have not okay because i tend to

00:17:17.020 things made by netflix tend to make me upset so yeah well this this will make you upset that's

00:17:26.960 i was asking if you saw it i try to avoid things that i know are coming from the other team yeah

00:17:33.360 well this is so overt i thought i'd show it to you so this is the season finale it's all about

00:17:38.080 thor and odin there's for i think that's freya and then in the final scene the climax of the

00:17:43.040 whole series it's odin looking as jesus conquered all the pagan gods and this is what they're trying

00:17:51.200 to they're basically boasting about it right on netflix here i'll show it just a minute long clip

00:17:55.840 So Odin looking up at Jesus on the cross and all the pagan runes and artifacts

00:18:18.100 going into the rubble of history 0.90

00:18:25.840 The boats, the Viking age turning to the Christian modern age.

00:18:33.340 All the ancestors looking in sadness at the king of the Jews on the cross.

00:18:55.840 all right so yeah any thoughts on that and the symbolism there

00:19:01.560 um again without the context of watching watching the program uh certainly it conveys a degree of

00:19:10.940 sadness and i think that is very sad indeed um it is unfortunate that our ancestors broke trough

00:19:19.740 with their gods and were converted either through choice or through extreme violence

00:19:28.600 to embrace that. That's really unfortunate. It's odd. I really don't believe in the power

00:19:39.560 of the Jewish Messiah to cast down or have some kind of metaphysical battle with our

00:19:47.340 gods in that way i think i'll hear christians say all the time okay you say jesus is fake and jewish

00:19:55.840 he's not real it's a myth well what are we going to replace it with they always say that and if

00:19:59.840 they're european i'll say well if you really need some type of uh spirituality religion you can go

00:20:05.300 to your your previous pre-christian ancestral gods um i think the most important aspects of

00:20:12.000 religion for people what they need is marriage rituals and like death rituals could you explain

00:20:18.380 what you guys do for those two huge life events in humanity marriage and and death sure um

00:20:26.620 we have weddings and we have funerals one of the things uh one of the things that's

00:20:36.000 interesting is so much of christian religiosity the way that i think a lot of our audience would

00:20:43.200 understand it is through a european lens and is built on the uh the traditions that predate it

00:20:49.760 so you know the european religious wedding is very similar in a lot of ways one of our weddings is

00:20:58.000 is you know typically done in one of our holy spaces uh and half of folks are are fortunate

00:21:05.680 enough to be able to get to one of our four hops presided over by one of our gothar

00:21:13.200 there's an exchange of vows just like you would recognize there's exchange of of rings like you

00:21:21.040 recognize the the exchange of rings with vows of broth and

00:21:28.120 loyalty is absolutely one of our things. So look very, very

00:21:32.500 similar, but we absolutely host weddings, we host legally binding

00:21:36.220 weddings, there's me and my wife. Oh, that's you. Yeah,

00:21:40.220 that's me and my wife and my daughter in utero there. But

00:21:47.560 yeah, so our wedding would look really familiar. Sometimes

00:21:50.080 People want a hand fasting as well, which is kind of a Celtic tying of a knot ceremony, which is, which is cool.

00:21:58.040 And I've had to practice many times on my arms.

00:22:00.280 I don't mess it up.

00:22:02.680 Our funerals are the one that I think you would see the most difference.

00:22:07.780 One of the most important parts of the wedding that maybe visually wouldn't look different to folks, but I think is essential is inviting the gods to be present in your marriage.

00:22:20.080 to start building your life and your family and your relationship together inviting the

00:22:25.760 gods in with them as a part with them bearing witness to your vows with them interwoven in

00:22:32.880 your relationship from the outset and you think that's really important our funerals

00:22:39.280 one of the things that i find most offensive is when people have a christian funeral

00:22:44.240 and the funeral is all about jesus yeah and they talk about the deceased they you know

00:22:53.120 talk about the deceased only in the context of that deceased practice of christianity and then

00:23:00.280 they give they use it as an opportunity to sermonize about jesus and their idea of their

00:23:07.460 afterlife and how you need to do what jesus tells you um yeah the last the two you saying that the

00:23:12.980 last two funerals i've been to that was so heavy they turned it into a sermon they see a funeral

00:23:19.060 as like a recruiting opportunity and it turns into more jewish jesus worship than even talking

00:23:26.920 about the person that just died i thought it was disgusting yeah i that deeply offends me

00:23:33.720 our funerals are very much about celebrating the person who's passed about giving an opportunity

00:23:39.300 for people to come up and speak about them to share memories about them to you know raise horns

00:23:46.400 in their in their honor and to uh to really celebrate who that person that person's life

00:23:52.960 and that person's journey to the afterlife so that's a very big focus um and we also we have

00:24:00.120 we inter ashes of our loved ones at all of our hosts and that's very important to us so we do

00:24:08.100 have the the facility to do that at all of our all of our elite sites that's cool

00:24:14.740 any other rituals any any sacrifices or rituals that we should know about um

00:24:22.260 or ceremonies or holidays that type of thing yeah we have ritual observances every month

00:24:29.700 at our hops we usually celebrate a uh we tie it once a month we have two main rituals

00:24:38.500 a bloat and assemble bloat is

00:24:47.700 bloat is a uh communal participation in the gift cycle we believe very much in the exchange of

00:24:56.260 gifts between us and the gods we exchange worship and loyalty in exchange for blessings

00:25:06.820 torment that cycle is never ending so the bloat is the writ large it's very often we gather in a

00:25:14.340 circle bloats are officiated by our gothar there is a round of offering typically over a horn of

00:25:24.660 mead we'll go around in the simple and people will place their worship and their devotion

00:25:31.780 into the horn and placing your hands on it and imbuing their energy then offer that to whichever

00:25:40.100 god we're giving blood to and we ask that in return if they accept our offerings and if they

00:25:46.260 find us worthy to give us their blessings and so we'll have a additional horn that will

00:25:53.220 they will fill with the might and the blessings they want to bestow upon the folk in

00:26:02.660 jothi will go around the circle and either through drinking from the horn or if it's a

00:26:08.980 large group through spurgement we will distribute those blessings and those are the fundamentals

00:26:14.980 that can look different depending upon the occasion sometimes gifts or offerings are

00:26:23.460 are put into the ritual fire to send up to the the isir and that's our big

00:26:32.660 it's our big ritual of interaction with the gods the other ritual

00:26:37.780 involves toasting the gods but it also involves celebrating our uh our loved ones and those that

00:26:44.020 have passed that's called us that's a communal toasting that goes on italy in three rounds

00:26:54.420 one round everyone there will as the horn comes to them make a toast in honor of one of our gods

00:27:00.500 the second round we'll raise horns to our ancestors and those that have passed

00:27:06.260 Then the third round, it's more of a freestyle round celebrating people that we know, people that are important to us, our heroes, often other people who are participating in the Sambul.

00:27:23.740 So it really binds our community both with the living, with those who have passed, and also with our gods.

00:27:30.820 a lot of mead you keep you you keep mentioning like raising horns this is

00:27:36.360 mead in horns and you guys take a drink typically um any other drinks or is it just mean

00:27:43.260 it doesn't have to be it's typically mead i think that's the most celebrated and the one that we

00:27:48.860 kind of go to and we also have a lot of people that brew their own mead which is i was going

00:27:52.300 to ask that do you guys brew it yourselves or do you buy it yes we do both it really depend

00:27:58.440 depends it's nice if we have somebody who provides us with you know meat that they've brewed but we

00:28:03.400 also end up buying quite a bit as well but sometimes people do it with beer or with uh with

00:28:08.920 wine do you have a favorite type of mead i do and there's it's not a there's not a two that are

00:28:17.480 running for the top spot and they're both hungry there's a uh spiced pear that was absolutely

00:28:23.880 delicious and then a spiced orange i'm a sucker for sweet meads and those are those pretty awesome

00:28:31.000 yo those pear and orange sound like they'll be sweet but not too sweet

00:28:35.800 sounds good yeah they're nice um it's hard to get the fruit character out without being sweet

00:28:40.680 although i do know a guy that made uh some strawberry meat that was exceptionally dry

00:28:46.680 like you could like the strawberry flavor was very prominent without with it being a very dry

00:28:52.520 i mean i don't know how he did it but i was really impressed by us how big is i'm saying it wrong

00:28:59.680 it's not a saw true it's also true right how big is it how many locations how many countries

00:29:06.760 folk assembly we have members in 12 different countries at present um we have four hoffs

00:29:14.700 we are very close and hopefully we'll be announcing our fifth hoff very soon

00:29:19.780 pictures from Thorshoff in Linden, North Carolina. Are they usually, are they all former churches?

00:29:32.200 Yes, with an asterisk. Three of them are former churches. The other one

00:29:36.300 started out as a Grange Hall. It's been used as a church over its time. It was built in 1938.

00:29:43.320 That's Odenshof. So it's been a number of different things. It started out as a Grange

00:29:47.900 hall for the grangers um the other three are former former churches so the synagogues turned

00:29:55.980 into churches that turned that they took over pagan temples ages ago and then now you're taking

00:30:03.560 the churches back that's the idea that's the idea and so there is a spiritual value to that that's

00:30:09.820 really cool there you know that's what was done to us there's kind of a poetic i don't know a

00:30:17.160 poetic justice to it. But also, they're buildings that were built for very much the same kind of

00:30:23.340 purpose. They're built for communal worship. So they're set up really well. They typically have,

00:30:30.560 you know, a spot for communal eating, which is a big part of what we do. We share meals together.

00:30:35.820 They're set up for just the right thing. And they're also zoned for the right purpose, which

00:30:42.160 is helpful i've got a stained glass image it might have been in the ai intro of me with

00:30:51.100 two wolves on each side there all these pictures of your gods kind of look like me do you notice

00:30:55.400 that well okay so god's here this looks like it was a church that used to have a nativity scene

00:31:02.880 too with this little house thing in here oh so yes but i think it's important yes our gods look

00:31:09.720 like us and we look like our gods we don't believe in this universal faith that our gods are the

00:31:18.120 gods of all people we certainly don't believe that other people's gods are our gods our gods

00:31:24.680 look like us because they're our gods and we're their people and we really like it that way all

00:31:30.600 of our murals were uh needed by one from i guess spawn hero a good friend of mine and a very devout

00:31:38.280 man um who's served our gods for a really long time and he really does something special when

00:31:43.320 he paints those murals i'm fortunate enough he kind of you know includes me in in the process of

00:31:49.960 of painting them and i get you know before and after and progress pictures but

00:31:54.120 he does a really beautiful job with them that's the first one he painted very cool

00:31:58.680 nice so um you said there's four in the u.s right yes we got uh in brownsville california

00:32:11.880 we've got thorshoff in lyndon north carolina aldershoff in murdoch minnesota

00:32:18.840 words hoff in white springs florida so have you guys run into any like legal issues with them

00:32:27.400 trying to shut you down or slander attacks or christians trying to interfere with what you guys

00:32:35.200 are doing any anything like that no legal interference no dishonest media slander

00:32:46.180 interference and trying to you know get the community to turn against us get people scared

00:32:52.460 to join because they label you right stuff like that yeah sure um the media has really gone out

00:33:00.720 of their way to because again that's what's sexy is to talk about racism they don't talk about

00:33:06.680 our faith they do take issue with the fact that we're an ethnically exclusive faith um and so

00:33:14.240 that is the headline in the story and you know they call someone racist and it's scary

00:33:20.200 they don't call it synagogues racist because it's jews only and they don't want converts right

00:33:25.480 but um that's a very special that's a very special circumstance that they don't criticize

00:33:30.600 pretty much ever so it is legal to have a apply to uh those rules don't apply to white people

00:33:37.380 yeah so it is legal though what you guys are you're legally allowed to say only europeans

00:33:42.660 for european faiths certainly certainly and we we overtly do we are we only allow heterosexual

00:33:49.300 white people as members of the astrofollow assembly okay media does not like that but we

00:33:54.020 have an absolute religious right to do that and those are sincerely held religious beliefs they're

00:33:59.280 not just trying to be edgy or trying to be mean-spirited um what are your thoughts on

00:34:08.080 christianity and christians today i i argue with christians and they say that you're anti-white if

00:34:15.100 you criticize christianity and meanwhile i think it's anti-white if you hate on european ethnic

00:34:21.460 religions it's specifically anti-white if you hate on european ethnic religion my definition

00:34:31.020 a strange thing to say about christianity is the majority of the world's christians at present are

00:34:37.500 not white folks that's a funny thing to say i think it was interesting you said that the pictures

00:34:43.140 of our gods look like you it's funny that the pictures of the king of the jews also

00:34:49.860 tends to look like you when it's painted by european people yeah and i think that that's

00:34:55.700 part of the delusion there's there's a book called the germanization of early medieval christianity

00:35:02.980 and i think it explains a lot our people are very confused and intentionally so when christianity

00:35:09.700 came into europe to convert people they had to present you know a triumphant warrior saying

00:35:17.940 white jesus that really has no relation to the jesus of the gospels

00:35:24.100 and so a lot of the things that our people

00:35:32.020 are moved by in christianity are stolen from our native faiths and the existent culture

00:35:39.700 the more people focus on their their middle eastern biblical christianity the less appealing

00:35:47.020 it is for our folk um but you ask a question like what i think of christians and what i think of

00:35:52.180 christians today and i think it's two separate things um christianity is wrong and it's certainly

00:35:59.420 wrong for our folk it is a um disloyalty to our people to our ancestors and to our gods

00:36:06.880 but i think that's really different from you know christians today i think most christians today

00:36:14.400 don't know that there's an option i think most people who would identify as christians today

00:36:20.100 it's what their parents were it's what their grandparents were it's what you know again

00:36:26.480 probably a thousand years worth of their ancestors were doing so i don't think it's given a lot of

00:36:33.760 thought I think it's kind of a cultural default that a lot of people have I think we're getting

00:36:39.340 more and more to a day where there's a lot of atheism but you know I'm in my 40s and I think

00:36:43.580 people you know my generation and previous it's kind of your default setting if you're a person

00:36:48.820 who is religious in the United States Christianity is kind of what that looks like so I think a lot

00:36:54.720 of people are well-meaning they just really do not know any better I hear the argument from

00:37:00.060 Christians a lot that in order for Europe to survive, in order for Europeans to survive, 0.96

00:37:06.960 we need Christianity to unite us and for birth rates. What do you say to that? Does your faith 0.66

00:37:14.600 have answers to those questions? I wonder what they mean when they say that. I think different

00:37:23.300 camps of people probably say that with birth rates. I don't think there's any particular

00:37:28.760 enhanced fecundity with christianity um yeah it just says be fruitful and multiply once

00:37:35.780 that that's about it yeah and then all of their priesthood are supposed to well 1.00

00:37:41.320 the catholics with their priesthood are largely celibate if not perversely predatory um gay pedos 0.98

00:37:52.360 yeah um no i think that in any ethnic faith the it's an inherent and very important aspect of 0.98

00:38:03.560 their faith to have children continue their bloodline so i think there's the the birth

00:38:09.660 rate thing makes no sense if the idea is to save europe by repopulating it with other races of

00:38:17.440 people because you feel that europe's population is declining i don't think that saves europe i

00:38:23.440 think that destroys europe and i think we see that right now uh christianity is allowing all of those

00:38:29.680 things and you know europe is a it is a culture it is an ethnic homeland it is a civilization it

00:38:41.200 does a lot of things it's not just a geography and it increasingly becomes just a a spot on the map

00:38:49.600 when it is indistinguishable and repopulated by non-european peoples and that doesn't

00:38:57.040 save europe at all it does quite the opposite have you seen the movie midsummer and how they portray

00:39:06.000 a little pagan community i have not for the same reason i didn't watch that netflix cartoon or i

00:39:13.800 try to you know avoid the pop culture portrayal of our faith because it's usually blasphemous at 0.90

00:39:23.640 best yeah it's it's i think directed and written by a jewish guy from new york and he makes these 0.97

00:39:31.600 pagans up in sweden look like psychopaths like murderous psychopaths 0.61

00:39:39.280 i'm surprised you hadn't seen it even just for research purposes to understand the propaganda 0.98

00:39:43.760 that's being put out against what you're doing because i know it's there and i get you know

00:39:48.240 people tell me about this stuff the effort is constant to demonize increasingly anything that's

00:39:57.360 good and healthy and makes sense especially if it benefits um traditionally minded white people

00:40:04.240 and uh i know i think a lot of folks are waking up to that um but no i try to i don't know i try

00:40:11.440 to keep my head out of that and focus on on building and on what we're trying to do because

00:40:16.800 it's really easy to get bogged down you know trying to look at all the points of negativity

00:40:22.160 well i just find it funny that like the only big budget movie about anything pagan is like a horror

00:40:29.580 film that depicts them in a really nasty way another question we get that yeah we get barbarous

00:40:36.380 stuff too it's either it is either overtly they're evil and bad or they're barbarous

00:40:42.720 savages and that's not an accurate reflection either our folk were absolutely very civilized

00:40:48.420 people they were the civilizing people um they were known for their technological advancement

00:40:54.900 their cleanliness um yeah so the the the hollywood portrayal is never something i want to spend a lot

00:41:03.940 of time assuming yeah wasn't it tacitus wrote wrote about uh the northern men i'm not sure

00:41:13.460 he called them yeah he wrote about the germanic tribes germanic tribes right and he spoke well

00:41:19.460 of them right what do you do you know exactly what he said something about their families

00:41:22.660 they're monogamous what was it what did he say he said a lot of things one of the big themes of

00:41:28.340 uh germania by by tacitus was their moral uprightness compared to rome at the time

00:41:36.340 uh he spoke about their tendency to be moral in their you know in their sexual relations

00:41:46.180 of being you know hippified by a certain amount of monogamy and by a loyalty

00:41:52.340 i talked a lot about their virtues of you know stunning and being appalled by both cowardice

00:42:01.780 and homosexuality and uh that not being tolerated there yeah their their moral

00:42:08.580 uprightness is put in contrast with you know roman uh hedonism of the time

00:42:17.620 um what about the viking show do you have an opinion on that did you did you watch any of that

00:42:23.300 do you think that accurately describes the faith that shows gross i think that shows terrible um

00:42:30.260 i did watch some of that show early on it was you know it was kind of cool to see

00:42:38.900 at the time like the first episode i remember it was kind of cool to see um our gods

00:42:47.140 portrayed in in media in that way at the very beginning there were some you know messages from

00:42:54.740 and visions of odin and ravens and it was kind of cool but it very very quickly just became 0.97

00:43:03.700 silly and reinforcing ridiculous stereotypes and there was like gay stuff and they were 0.97

00:43:10.580 trying to denigrate it clearly yes absolutely and everybody was again they were gross wearing like 1.00

00:43:16.340 roadkill shoulder pelts everybody is you know wearing everything's black and uh you know this

00:43:23.460 like again it reinforced that everybody's barbarous that wasn't the case the archaeology

00:43:28.820 tells us it wasn't the case contemporary accounts tell us it wasn't the case

00:43:35.460 uh let's get the power chats turned on i saw a few questions probably came in here

00:43:39.300 um i'll get this screen shared so you can hear those come through and let's do this there we go

00:43:49.620 so all right we should be able to oops here's some of those coming in now

00:44:01.260 usually just takes a second 45 minutes okay we'll get some questions here what do you guys have to

00:44:06.300 ask Matthew here God I hate calling you Matthew I want to call you some cool like Viking Viking

00:44:12.240 Name. Oh, here we go. Okay. Lane sent $5. Hail, Adam. Thank you. And again. Lane sent $5. Hail, Adam. Thank you.

00:44:29.360 Michael57 does sent $20 on Rumble. Hail, Adam. Hail, Matthew. Hail, our folk and hail, our gods. At work, so I can't chat much, but we'll be listening. Good to see.

00:44:40.220 off on the stream a lot of good exposure yeah happy to happy to hear what you guys are doing

00:44:48.460 thank you indomitably going to have to save this one for replay but hail to both of you

00:44:54.040 hail our gods hail our people

00:44:56.220 prussian buffalo sent twenty dollars on rumble hail the gods glad to see a positive folk building

00:45:06.220 message here gentlemen down with yahweh corn pop the bad dude one cent five dollars on rumble

00:45:15.100 when i was a kid after work in the field we'd light a fire and jump over it had no idea until

00:45:20.540 now that was a pagan ritual of purification and connection to the power of the sun

00:45:25.900 do you guys do that one well yeah that's something we at different times during the year we'll do the

00:45:32.460 the jumping over the fire uh specifically around uh austria to uh like he said as

00:45:38.700 as cleansing and purification to start the new year wow people have to sign a waiver before

00:45:45.420 they do that one it sounds a little dangerous it depends on how big the fire is i see that

00:45:51.740 getting dangerous but no we never had a never had a problem okay just like roasting marshmallows

00:45:58.380 size fire and then you don't have to worry about it too much i got it that's interesting

00:46:01.980 any other cool stuff like that that you guys do

00:46:06.380 all kind of other cool stuff trying to think of what's uh what's the one in these pictures where

00:46:11.580 you uh you have the strings or the ribbons and go around the thing in the center there

00:46:17.500 yeah maple uh we dance around the maypole and um depends if we have an evenly split 0.86

00:46:25.020 audience of male and female but typically ladies are going one way the men are going

00:46:30.860 a different way and you um proceed around the circle uh going over under over under weaving

00:46:40.140 weaving the ribbons around the maypole and that makes a really cool pattern it's literally weaving

00:46:48.460 folk together and binding us a community and it's certainly you know all about that the fertility

00:46:56.860 and that that fecundity that's you know exemplified by uh by that maple

00:47:06.700 you know what irritates me i'm sorry go ahead oh no you're fine you know what irritates me is 0.88

00:47:12.460 when i see christians online talking talking nasty about europeans ancestral faiths and they 0.84

00:47:20.940 celebrate Jesus conquering the pagan gods. They celebrate the Judaization of Europe and the world

00:47:30.580 through Jesus. And the original goal of the Jewish Messiah conquering all the nations and all the 0.99

00:47:38.140 world was the Jewish objective of their Messiah. And then now the Christians act like, especially 1.00

00:47:43.720 the so-called pro-white Christians, act like, how are they so blind that they don't see that?

00:47:49.900 they're advancing like the jewish goals of the god of israel the god of the hebrews and the chosen

00:47:56.080 people conquering all of the world and then they celebrate the rabbis celebrate jesus conquering 0.83

00:48:01.980 the pagan world and then the christians celebrate yahweh conquering the pagan world how do they not

00:48:09.360 see it we have a tremendous capacity to do absurd mental gymnastics to avoid things that are hard

00:48:19.880 and we've seen that take a lot of really strange uh manifestations in in that particular struggle

00:48:27.420 there's a lot of you know there's like the british israelite thing there's you know let's pretend

00:48:33.820 you know we was jews there's all kind of again there's all kind of really yeah saying jesus was

00:48:41.700 arian jesus was a white blue-eyed uh arian chad he was really a white guy and he wandered in and

00:48:48.320 He wasn't the guy that they made the extensive lineage of back to David.

00:48:56.560 Hello.

00:48:57.400 This is Aubrey.

00:48:59.960 Hey, Aubrey.

00:49:01.560 Yes.

00:49:01.900 A little princess there, a little Viking princess with her wand, huh?

00:49:05.480 There you go.

00:49:07.120 Yeah, it amazes me, and I think that a lot of people don't know.

00:49:10.100 And I think, again, they don't put up a picture of a Jewish rabbi, and that's not who you're talking about on Sunday. 0.76

00:49:18.600 There's a picture of, you know, a white Jesus, and the imagery is all European people, and they try to make it a cultural norm, as everybody does. 0.93

00:49:30.720 as you got the super swole korean jesus you got various you know al sharpton haired looking uh 0.93

00:49:37.440 black jesus ever christianity tends to do that wherever it goes because people naturally want 0.92

00:49:44.320 to gravitate to the faith of their people and something that's ethnically congruent

00:49:50.320 and i think that it's just easy to pretend there's not a big jewish objective to uh

00:49:56.320 Christianity. It is disappointing when it comes from people that are supposedly very aware of

00:50:03.180 what we're doing. You make me want to go get my daughter to show off

00:50:10.800 all these young Viking princesses. She found this crown in her wand in the back of the closet 1.00

00:50:19.340 somewhere today. So it's this new discovery this morning. Yeah. My two daughters have the same

00:50:23.660 wand in the same uh the princess outfits i got i got two girls also girl congratulations on that

00:50:31.580 yeah i people people are silly but i think that those people are also fertile ground to come

00:50:36.460 around i think they do what's easy and one of the uncomfortable things is getting out of your

00:50:42.140 comfort zone is very hard and we often don't want to admit that but it's much easier for you to

00:50:49.660 pretend and go along and get along with you know with your family or with things that you're used

00:50:55.820 to than it is to take the courageous stance and you know carve a new path into the future

00:51:01.980 but if some of us don't do it a number of us making the difficult choices makes it that much

00:51:09.260 easier for our children for our daughters to not have to deal with those difficult choices in the

00:51:15.660 future well that's another question i wanted to ask the can you contrast for us the difference

00:51:22.460 between how uh pagan religions uh nordic religions view women compared to christianity

00:51:31.260 sure uh there's not a there is like a very old middle eastern war on women and it's

00:51:49.740 i don't know it's it's funny odd and it's certainly concerning uh when you go back there's a

00:51:58.940 there's a lot of mistreatment and um like a blame logical yeah but there's like this pathological

00:52:10.660 need to in a very paranoid way like be mean-spirited to women and that's certainly not

00:52:18.200 present in also true gender roles are natural and understandable and there's no such thing as 0.96

00:52:26.160 equality we all understand that everybody's different has different strengths and weaknesses

00:52:30.480 there's no need to have to rigidly enforce that by some kind of fatwa or making them

00:52:38.380 walk around in you know garbage bags or whatever else uh there was always a understanding of

00:52:45.700 the special sacred things of women in amongst our ancestors and uh one of the things in

00:52:52.880 also true is understanding their special connection to divinity women have a

00:53:00.640 they're different they're made different they are imbued with different strengths and weaknesses 0.96

00:53:07.280 one of those is they connect with the gods in a really special and different way um they're able

00:53:12.960 to i don't know access spiritual things in a in a unique way that's always been celebrated and

00:53:20.480 beneficial so yeah there's there's none of that inherent anti-women stance

00:53:30.160 that's good yeah i see a lot of amongst christians and catholics online today a

00:53:34.320 lot of very anti-women sentiments maybe some of it originates with blaming eve for the genesis

00:53:41.280 story of taking the apple and and you know tempting adam or whatever they do have mother

00:53:46.800 mary and stuff also there's the don't speak in church there's they got to cover up there i think

00:53:52.520 in christianity there's a sense of like man is made in the image of god and he's the leader

00:53:57.800 and that everything else is like subordinate to them including including women in a degree

00:54:02.940 another question i had is most of the people that join number one how do you join

00:54:08.960 do you have a like a conversion process for former christians are a lot of people that join

00:54:16.280 are they former christians are they former atheists how does that breakdown look that's interesting um

00:54:25.160 kind of two questions there so how does one join

00:54:29.480 there's no immediate expectation that someone's going to go from not believing in the gods to

00:54:37.960 having some deep and profound enduring loyalty to them that's kind of an absurd expectation

00:54:43.480 to go there in an instant so joining the austral folk assembly you have to as i mentioned before

00:54:50.360 be a heterosexual white person and you have to want to believe in the icier and we want to

00:54:57.560 encourage you along that path to naturally build that relationship with our gods so

00:55:06.120 there's not a great deal involved in joining there's the other thing that comes to it is

00:55:12.440 it's not really a conversion in a way it's a reversion back to what's natural and what you

00:55:18.680 inherently are by default as an aryan man or woman coming home we describe it as coming home to house

00:55:26.120 a true because that really is your spiritual default appropriate setting for our folk so it's 0.84

00:55:33.160 not like you're converting something it's like you're casting off the false religions or the

00:55:39.160 foreign things that burdened you and you're coming back to a place of wholeness and integration

00:55:46.820 with yourself, your culture, and your gods. So it's much more of a homecoming than it is

00:55:53.180 some kind of a conversion process. Yeah, when you join, you're invited to get involved and talk

00:56:02.580 with other members and attend events and start participating in that gift cycle. Biggest thing

00:56:08.880 we want is that you're you have an open mind and an open heart when you participate there

00:56:13.440 and you allow for something special to happen and when you do that you know again there's there's

00:56:19.540 elements involved the participant needs to be open to it but the gods on the other end need to

00:56:25.700 do their part to facilitate that as well and ideally our go thar can be a a bridge to help

00:56:33.340 enable those interactions to take place so uh that happens you were asking if

00:56:39.900 most people come from christianity or most people come from atheism i think we've seen that change

00:56:45.340 you know certainly over over our lifetimes depends on what part of the country and what part of the

00:56:51.260 world uh we've seen a big increase in people coming from atheism i'd say that you know 30

00:57:00.140 years ago most of most of our people were raised christian and came over from if not an not a

00:57:09.100 regularly church attending family at least a family that was you know much like my family

00:57:14.780 identified as christians whether they participated in their faith or not but more and more you see

00:57:21.420 people coming over from uh atheism or at least agnosticism you mentioned your faith uh what

00:57:28.460 what background are you what ethnicity are you um

00:57:35.420 american so my my ancestors been here for a really long time

00:57:40.140 most of my ancestry comes from the british isles

00:57:45.660 in fact the most recent of my ancestors to come to the americas was a uh a swissman and his french

00:57:54.220 wife but uh most of my ancestry before that is from the british isles mostly english but uh some

00:58:01.340 some scotsman and there's flavel is flavel english flavor is a uh yeah it's like norman french it's

00:58:09.020 an english name by you know since 1066 i guess so so what's the vetting process then how do you

00:58:15.580 know do you guys just judge if somebody seems european enough to join or how does that work

00:58:21.100 and also i saw a super chat i do allow not i don't even want to ask this but

00:58:26.460 how do you know if they're homosexual or not just what they say scouts honor

00:58:32.860 the list um the list yeah do they have a lisp that's funny what's their fashion sense i so

00:58:42.300 here's the thing there's a certain amount of good faith effort that we don't run down all the things

00:58:47.740 we do ask you to affirm when you join you know are you a heterosexual white person that's not

00:58:53.660 involved in an interracial relationship and you check the box and we trust you and then if we

00:58:59.020 have reason to not trust you then we'll remove you from membership if you've been dishonest on that

00:59:05.580 we also run a background check to make sure one that you're not a sex offender and where you're

00:59:11.980 certainly not a registered sex offender and we also run a check to make sure that

00:59:18.140 you know your criminality if any hasn't been shocking in in its nature

00:59:27.260 and that's mostly crimes of of cruelty our big concerns are safety if there's a lot of things

00:59:36.540 that you can understand in the right circumstance there's cruelty towards people under their power

00:59:44.060 cruelty to animals cruelty to elders cruelty to women or children that aren't justifiable under

00:59:51.660 any circumstance and speak of a dangerous mental defect is it true that people have like accused

00:59:58.860 you guys is any truth to it that there's like a prison gang is asatru in in prisons something like

01:00:05.100 that um yeah i think that's a stigma that is kind of situational um there is a lot of

01:00:15.980 ouser true going on in prisons it's become kind of the default in a lot of uh a lot of institutions

01:00:22.700 for all their white prisoners i went and i did uh some prison ministry in high desert prison in

01:00:31.100 uh susanville california and it was expressed to me that 100 of their white inmates were uh

01:00:39.580 were also true and i was i was given reason to believe that that was enforced so i think that

01:00:47.820 that kind of happens we all know that in uh in prisons racial groups tend to i've heard there's

01:00:55.020 a lot of christian identity that british israelism also was in prisons so i i haven't heard that it

01:01:02.540 wouldn't surprise me i think that it depends on the institution you're in i do know that there's

01:01:08.140 you know a lot of people come home to house a true uh for being incarcerated but i don't think

01:01:12.300 that's the majority of you know certainly our participants uh that's not reflected in my

01:01:18.140 membership percentages at all on people who you know have former convictions what are the

01:01:24.140 religions of the non-whites in prison i wonder christian jesus so the one the one went to

01:01:30.940 they all believe in jesus they all find jesus in prison huh oh a lot of them do i know that 0.99

01:01:38.060 there's a lot of like black muslims in prison i know that that's a big thing amongst black

01:01:43.820 population it's hard to say uh i went there the chaplain at the facility i went to was uh

01:01:51.340 he was a scotsman actually but he was um he's a uh catholic priest and he his entire

01:02:01.900 you know his entire congregation there is all of the the latinos so

01:02:09.340 i'm not sure how it always breaks down i've been fortunate in my life that

01:02:12.940 it's never been a place i've i've found myself other than when i've gone in to minister there

01:02:17.180 a couple of times uh-huh well that's interesting um here we got a couple more super chat questions

01:02:25.900 here or power chat questions let me get a share screen so you can hear those again get those back

01:02:31.900 turned on usually just takes a second um you said you weren't christian growing up right

01:02:39.260 okay so i wasn't hold on yes we were nominally we were hold on hold on

01:02:43.820 Anonymous sent $20. Is it possible for a former homosexual to join the IFA?

01:02:50.220 Another one's coming through and you can answer that. I think we kind of did that already. Here 0.98

01:02:53.260 is another one. Evil Zombie Toast sent $5 on Rumble. Hail from Jurdshaf. Good to see you here.

01:02:59.420 Mr. Flavelin hope to see you in Texas one day. Hail the gods. Hail the IFA. Hail our folk. And

01:03:05.480 hail our ancestors. What's that word he said? Nordshav? Oh, wait. Another one. Here we go.

01:03:10.640 The Bad Dude won $0.05 on Rumble. Viking women went on raids with men. When the man went on a raid, he made a public event of handing her the keys to the house and she was in charge of everything while her husband was on a raid. 1.00

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01:03:33.480 Thank you.

01:03:35.080 Oh, Thunderstorm. 0.62

01:03:36.560 thunderstorm nine cent ten dollars on rumble been ethnic faith since i was a kid learned it

01:03:42.000 from my grandma thank you both for your work and other people keeping ethnic european traditions

01:03:46.800 alive thank you all right what was that word that we saw there i think he was saying nords

01:03:56.080 hof texas is part of the nords hof district yeah and that's the hof that's located in white springs

01:04:02.480 florida um you asked me right before we went in that if i was raised christian yeah i suppose

01:04:08.560 loosely culturally my parents were you know would have described themselves as christian but we

01:04:13.200 never went to church growing up there was a time uh my aunt and my cousins were jehovah's witnesses

01:04:19.680 and in in high school and you know maybe the first two years out of high school i tried to be a

01:04:27.120 jehovah's witness and i tried hard to get it right but one of the things i appreciate about the

01:04:32.560 witnesses is they take out all of the european elements of their christianity and try to keep

01:04:38.640 it exclusively middle eastern and biblical and it really makes that stark contrast to where it was

01:04:46.000 apparent to me that this wasn't for us and it wasn't a noble faith for our people um also on

01:04:52.640 the question somebody asked is it possible for a former homosexual

01:04:58.640 for male homosexuals i don't think there's such a thing as a former homosexual i think that's a 0.52

01:05:04.400 bridge that you can't uncross um only with jesus only you can pray the gay way with jesus only not 0.54

01:05:11.600 with thor yeah i don't i don't trust that um i don't trust i think at that point something is 0.83

01:05:18.400 broken psychologically where you're willing to engage in that way that kind of makes you forever

01:05:29.920 a little bit of a danger to be around one of the bigger things aside from you know it's icky is

01:05:36.560 it is disproportionately predatory to children it's one of the unfortunately one of the mental

01:05:43.760 ailments of our folk that is passed on uh for lack of a better term vampirically to where it tends to 0.95

01:05:53.360 be gay men abuse boys the bad dude one sent five dollars on rumble i have a friend who is interested 0.90

01:06:00.800 in getting into the religion that is in sorry another super chat came through did that interrupt 0.98

01:06:08.240 to you could you hear that i didn't hear it i saw text on the screen but i wasn't able to read it

01:06:13.920 fast enough yeah no i i skipped it so it wouldn't interrupt your talk in there all good okay next

01:06:22.800 question uh what is the belief in an afterlife is it valhalla um so i think that's one really really

01:06:31.600 select circumstance that people kind of hearken to other people sent five dollars and talked about

01:06:38.960 because it's a it's particularly cool and special outcome but no i think in general our afterlife as

01:06:45.360 we go to be with our ancestors um in the very rare occasion that somebody is completely of no

01:06:53.040 redeeming value then those people are uh their souls get devolved dissolved and you know i

01:07:01.920 guess recycled for lack of a better word um on now strand but for most of our ancestors or for most

01:07:09.760 of us who pass we go to our ancestors are welcomed by them are judged by them and then for the select

01:07:17.200 few that the gods choose they can you know elevate our elevate those who pass to something more and

01:07:25.680 that's often depicted as you know inviting them to the halls of the gods inviting them to you know

01:07:31.440 valhall being the the prime example i think most people are familiar with and you know the all

01:07:37.520 father can choose which of us he wants to invite there or not yeah i think that's the rarity the

01:07:44.880 the norm is you being with your ancestors and returning to to the halls of the ancestors

01:07:53.040 but what if some of our ancestors are in heaven with jesus and all the the rest of the world 0.97

01:08:00.240 no it's just a joke i don't think jewish rabbis can like pluck our people out of our 0.85

01:08:05.680 out of their afterlife and move them to the hebrew afterlife i don't think it works like that 0.96

01:08:09.760 I agree. I don't think so. You mentioned Aryan a couple times. What does that mean to you guys? 1.00

01:08:18.460 It means noble. And it's really important because it's a self-identifier. It's a great goal. Identifier of our people. And there's nothing wrong with it. It certainly has gone out of fashion and is taboo to use in a lot of circles after World War II.

01:08:36.860 but it's a very ancient word that people defined ourselves by our nobility it's you know

01:08:45.980 that was a very important defining factor for our folk and it's something to aspire to

01:08:51.020 but certainly it means all you know all white people all indo-european occasion people

01:08:59.580 so more on that like the lord you believe europeans are all

01:09:03.340 all came from like an aryan civilization sure when we see that with archaeology and migratory

01:09:13.980 patterns and language development we see all of those things and our gods are real our gods aren't

01:09:21.100 social you know constructs or literary characters that being that being the case

01:09:27.740 they've been with our people since our people existed and that certainly ties back to our

01:09:33.820 points of commonality and our common origins and these are the same gods that have been with us

01:09:41.100 since us existed so so where did the aryan civilization originate

01:09:47.980 that's always been a debated question because you fought you grace the linguistics and the

01:09:59.200 archaeology back as far as you know I think likely in you know in the Bacchus mountains

01:10:05.840 somewhere tends to be the running theory but I think there's a lot to be said for a

01:10:12.220 hyperborean polar origin that really hold on you said polar did you say polar origin i did say

01:10:21.900 polar um what do you mean by that i mean um snow people ice age people yeah kind of there's a lot

01:10:31.160 of theories on that and then again this is not a pennant of the austro folk assembly but when you

01:10:35.920 start going in the way back the lore takes on a lot of uh very northern imagery and a lot of

01:10:42.400 imagery that implies it being you know in the arctic very early origin point and i mean that's

01:10:51.320 a fascinating thing to wonder on and to think on and i don't think you have to believe that but

01:10:55.560 it's interesting there's a book by uh bal tillak called i think it's called arctic homeland in the

01:11:02.460 in the fellas he talks about the most ancient indian lore talking about a lot of those um

01:11:11.420 hyperborean mythos so i've heard the term we was jeets because like the arians are related to

01:11:19.740 india have you have you seen that like can you straighten that out at all the idea that

01:11:25.820 were ancient indians or something were you know it's very easy for our people to see

01:11:37.980 central american uh very obviously incan or aztec people and you know say

01:11:47.260 you wouldn't confuse them with spaniards even though they speak a spanish language

01:11:52.540 and a lot of their civilization comes from spain they're not spaniards and i think that's a that's

01:11:59.900 a really similar thing again there's during the aryan migrations of our people some of our people

01:12:06.140 went into the indus valley some of our people went across the steppe some of our people took

01:12:11.900 our language and our most ancient lore and you see it take root there and that's why you see

01:12:17.740 a lot of linguistic similarities but when you intermix with the indigenous population for

01:12:24.940 thousands of years the result of that ceases being since one of those you asked earlier you

01:12:31.500 know like you know if you're if you're white or you determine eligibility but we all know that

01:12:37.420 we see one another and we recognize once versus not us no it's not the scientific answer that

01:12:44.140 some people you know want to get out the skull calipers or whatever but realistically our people

01:12:49.660 have always been able to identify this is one of us this is not one of us and i think that you know

01:12:54.940 mammalian creatures tend to be able to do that pretty well we don't try to get up in everybody's

01:13:00.060 business or you know overly intrusive but does this person look like they're one of us or not

01:13:06.620 and that really is the standard okay a couple more super chats here and then we'll get it

01:13:14.140 get us uh closed out if i could just fix that up and shoot okay there it is

01:13:21.900 get this back turned on i saw a few more come through appreciate everybody for the support

01:13:27.300 today hope you enjoyed the show we'll get these questions and then find out where we're here where

01:13:33.460 we can learn more and follow matthew and what he's doing here all right they should be coming

01:13:39.740 through any seconds there it is pebble in the pond 2020 sent 20 dollars on rumble hail the gods

01:13:48.720 hail our folk thank you adam for an amazing guest yeah by popular request glad to finally have it

01:13:55.720 get it done watcher sent 30 dollars i recently stumbled upon arianity on odyssey and on their

01:14:01.620 website on the surface it sounds a bit like a poison pill but reading the material it seems

01:14:08.000 relatively based great interview might join the alpha one of these days best of luck thank you

01:14:16.560 watcher got a question about wotanism as well is that something you guys do is that the same god

01:14:27.920 different thing what do you think yes okay so there's a tendency amongst our folk to everybody

01:14:36.140 wants to do their own thing and call it something slightly different because i think why don't as

01:14:41.980 people we have trouble conforming to stuff and i get that i think it also prevents us from

01:14:48.620 building lasting institutions and being a significant uh group of people accomplishing

01:14:55.580 significant things it all depends on who you're talking to on how to answer that question because

01:15:02.860 there's certain groups of people that would brand what they do as a photonism and there's other

01:15:09.020 people who might just use the term for a different reason it really depends kind of when to that was

01:15:14.940 a certainly a very um the formal usage of that term tended to be uh people who are very racially

01:15:23.020 aware very very racially engaged i think a lot of people who tended to gravitate

01:15:32.780 to that expression of house of truth through a prison background doesn't mean it's wrong or

01:15:37.880 it's bad but i think that the increased need to call all of those different things they want to

01:15:43.720 do something else makes it harder for people to figure out who we are and what we do but yeah

01:15:48.800 fundamentally that is a form of house of truth so you wotan is one of the gods in your faith

01:15:56.980 yeah that's the germanic name for odin okay all right i saw we had one more in from liam

01:16:03.620 a good question that i don't know the answer to and i'm glad you asked it liam

01:16:07.700 he says well we'll hit it on the screen thank you white stag white underscore stag sent five

01:16:13.620 dollars on rumble what does the name massatra mean great guest and show

01:16:18.180 so also true is a word that combines two old norse words uh the icier individually and icier is an

01:16:31.140 out so it means what you cut out there a what what is it so an individual member of the icier

01:16:42.020 is an house so also true is loyal to the icier crew um what is the icier that's god

01:16:50.980 the icier are the the tribe of gods that are the god's very folk um tribe of gods

01:16:58.020 yeah so it's all the gods okay the pantheon of our gods are collectively the icier okay

01:17:04.420 Okay. So also true is trough to the ice here. The true part is, you know, the root of our

01:17:12.660 word through or proof, the same phonetic word, but it implies true in the sense of trusted

01:17:20.520 or loyalty. So loyal to the ice here. There's some thought to suggest that means belief.

01:17:29.220 again belief goes back to trust and that's one of the the big points so it's not just you know

01:17:36.140 we believe that they exist it's that not only do we believe in their existence but we actively

01:17:41.760 are in a relationship of loyalty to them got it cool that's interesting the same root word true

01:17:49.280 is in both of them what is this whole long word here too that's on the wikipedia let me try this

01:17:54.940 can you say that word also true or failure or failure and i hope i got it close to right

01:18:08.380 that is the icelandic organization and it means like the also true fellowship roughly association

01:18:16.880 yeah okay are you still connected to the iceland one to the iceland branch

01:18:23.400 have you been to Iceland I have not been to Iceland I have been to Denmark Norway and Sweden

01:18:32.140 but I've never made it to Iceland yet we don't have any formal relationship with those people

01:18:37.220 as I mentioned before they no longer as an organization believe in the gods and I think

01:18:43.580 their existence at this point is kind of blasphemous but I'm sure there's great members

01:18:48.480 of that group that just happen to be people in Iceland who are sincere certainly their founders

01:18:53.300 we'd celebrate um two of their founders as official uh heroes with days of remembrance

01:19:00.120 that we honor as heroes of our fault um but in their current state we don't have any relationship

01:19:07.880 with them they're too woke right among other things that's one of the big problems that's

01:19:15.780 some of the things that christians say sometimes they're extremely too woke and they've been able

01:19:21.680 to become that because they're no longer actively religious once you stop having that

01:19:27.740 core of sincere belief they're answering to the media and not answering to the gods

01:19:34.660 okay another question that i had that i'm curious about i know in the northern men movie and in the

01:19:46.020 viking show they depict uh the pagans as doing like magic mushroom rituals do you guys have

01:19:54.000 any ritual like that has that ever been a thing or what's the deal with that

01:19:58.760 no because uh those sort of hallucinogens are illegal in most of the countries where we have

01:20:10.280 membership and we don't encourage our people to engage in illegal activities so uh no we certainly

01:20:16.000 don't have a uh okay let me ask it again if we were in a place if you were in a place where it

01:20:21.200 wasn't illegal would that be part of the faith would it be part of the faith for everybody i

01:20:32.180 don't know is there a place for it in the practice of also true if it were legal yes i could

01:20:38.860 absolutely see there being a place for that is there anything in that in like um some of the

01:20:43.180 books you mentioned earlier do they mention any of that there's a lot of thoughts that there's

01:20:48.940 allusions to it in certain things uh not so much overtly i think that there's a there are a lot of

01:20:58.980 different theories there's so much smoke that it's hard to believe there's not a little bit of fire

01:21:04.820 to it but no not overtly um in that kind of an exact way there's long been speculation that that's

01:21:13.460 part of the the concept of the berserker gang or the trance that the berserkers would go into

01:21:19.060 um there's some talk in you know distant i guess tangential relationship that in india the soma

01:21:28.660 or their sacred drink had some of those elements to it but again a lot of that's theory and

01:21:34.660 speculation it's kind of a taboo thing because it is illegal in most of the places where our folk

01:21:39.940 find ourselves i understand okay a couple more super chats in here before we uh close it down

01:21:49.460 and i apparently missed one i'll try to find that uh here's pebble in the pond

01:21:53.380 hopefully this one plays correctly

01:21:56.260 do you guys sing

01:22:03.480 i hated singing in church by the way so i hope the answer is no

01:22:10.380 so no but i wish we did um some people have their own uh some people have made songs and

01:22:17.540 some people made some really cool songs that they may sing or perform for us

01:22:21.060 um no we don't sing like as a choir i think it'd be cool that was the game can anyone go to the

01:22:27.560 hofs even if they're not hold on hold on matt oh sorry the the thing popped on can anyone go to

01:22:33.460 hofs even if they're not members 20 dollars on rumble can anyone go to the hofs even if they

01:22:38.340 are not members sure we would like to have people come check out white underscore stag

01:22:44.520 dollars on rumble and give it a fair thought you don't have to necessarily be a member to

01:22:50.280 attend one of our Hoffs and come check things out sorry sorry he's almost done

01:22:59.360 to your daughter we're trying to close it out here uh hold on brother brother b i'm trying

01:23:06.800 to find what you left okay do you do you believe in reincarnation or astrology

01:23:11.400 so that's a complex one as far as one for one reincarnation no i don't think that's typically

01:23:22.800 a thing i think that the gods can do what they want so i hesitate to say it's not possible but

01:23:28.960 i do think it's not typical there are elements of our soul though that are absolutely passed

01:23:35.020 on his inheritance and sometimes those take the form of you know memory or seeing

01:23:42.860 crates of an ancestor re-emerged in uh their uh their descendants we'd see elements of the soul

01:23:52.460 that in a way do get reincarnated or passed down as as a spiritual inheritance but you know the

01:23:58.460 one for one like i was napoleon i was whatever that's certainly not the norm how that works as

01:24:05.980 far as astrology goes don't not believe in it i don't think it's an overtly necessary

01:24:12.460 out of truth thing and i don't have um you know i don't know enough about it i certainly don't wanna

01:24:19.740 so there's no like stars or so is there sun worship i saw like the um what's what's the

01:24:24.620 sun symbol i saw behind the guy there yeah the solar cross there is there is a degree of sun

01:24:29.980 worship not so much the sun as you know the physical sun but the goddess with dominion over

01:24:39.740 the sun uh soul or suna we do give her worship and acknowledgement we view her as one of the heavenly

01:24:47.340 wardens it's not kind of the same level of closeness with the icier but uh yeah we do

01:24:54.860 we do give her worship and honor especially around midsummer

01:25:01.340 cool yeah at least the sun's real better than worshiping a fake mythical uh jewish rabbi

01:25:06.780 here's the one i missed sorry uh i think i've missed corn pop also we'll do that one first

01:25:12.940 corn pop the bad dude one cent five dollars on rumble i have a friend who is interested in

01:25:18.780 getting into the religion and is in houston lmk if i can get matthew in touch with him and maybe

01:25:23.820 he could start something in houston if you want to expand get in touch with them where can where

01:25:29.660 can they get in touch with you so uh website for the afa is runestone.org and that's gonna have

01:25:40.060 contact information for everybody me personally matt lavel f-l-a-v-e-l at runestone.org is my

01:25:49.980 web or is my email address i'd be really happy if anybody wanted to reach out and uh yeah yeah

01:25:57.020 i we would love to have we would love to have growth everywhere we'd certainly love to have

01:26:02.300 growth in the houston area cool i think i saw another super chat here that i missed uh thunderstorm

01:26:10.060 thunderstorm nine cent ten dollars on rumble been ethnic faith since i was a kid learned it

01:26:17.960 from my grandma thank you both for your work and other people keeping ethnic european traditions

01:26:22.760 alive yeah thanks for keeping it alive seriously um and here's the brother b when i missed

01:26:31.580 brother bd sent five dollars on rumble i'm down with folklore and honoring our ancestors but as

01:26:39.360 a former christian i'm not down with worshiping a god would i still be accepted

01:26:43.040 if yeah are you accepted if you don't think the gods are real or in is are you worshiping the

01:26:50.380 gods in the same way that a christian worships jesus um i mean it's hard to say in the same way

01:26:58.080 yes we're absolutely worshiping the gods and you know any conventional use of the term worshiping

01:27:04.380 um and uh no i mean i can appreciate that but we are we are a religious body we are a church

01:27:13.020 you can't be a part of that you can't be loyal to the icr if you don't believe the icr exists

01:27:19.880 but what if you just you're european you want to have a community you you want to replace the void

01:27:27.700 that christianity left but you don't really believe that they're real then they're not allowed still

01:27:32.660 well yeah because we're a serious church of course you're not allowed to be loyal to the

01:27:39.180 if you don't believe in them but as i said earlier if you don't know and you want to give it a try

01:27:45.900 and you are wanting to believe in them then sure we don't expect that you know people are going to

01:27:51.740 magically have a belief out of nowhere uh but you can't be firm not believing in them and then still

01:27:58.560 still participate so believing that they're like the one for the other so believing that they're

01:28:04.000 like symbols or metaphors or archetypes it that's that's not good enough no because that's not

01:28:11.060 believing in them or worshiping them as gods and that's the thing we're not a cultural organization

01:28:16.700 we're not a club we're absolutely a church we're a legitimate religion that worships our gods

01:28:22.200 um and all those things go together all those things that people want

01:28:26.440 but without the religion part the religion part is what makes all those other things work

01:28:32.180 got it got it cool well this was very interesting talk matt i'm glad to uh finally have somebody

01:28:39.780 from uh asatru come on and um runestone you said it was runestone.org is the website and if you

01:28:51.120 guys want to follow on twitter this is the the count to follow folk assembly folk asa true

01:28:57.400 asa true i keep getting it wrong i'm sorry you need you need those little dots on there to

01:29:03.720 highlight the a that would make more sense that's the second a is the one you highlight asa true

01:29:08.940 right no so it's also true the little apostrophes yeah go over the a and the u okay that helps

01:29:17.780 that'll that's what i need i'll know i'll get it right i've been saying it wrong forever so

01:29:23.920 you're you're fine you're fine all right appreciate you having me on um it's an honor to be on the

01:29:30.520 show and to get to talk to your audience i appreciate everybody who is you know asked

01:29:35.580 that i get to come on and help me get the opportunity and everybody who's been in the

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Asatru Folk Assembly - July 29, 2025

Allsherjargoði Matt Flavel appears on Know More News with Adam Green 07⧸24⧸2025

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