Asatru Folk Assembly - June 2022 Live Discussion

00:00:00.000 hello everybody welcome thank you guys so much for joining me tonight um i am i'm ecstatic

00:00:20.000 right now and i got a lot of really really cool things to share with you guys tonight

00:00:25.200 I know that I have been making you guys promises about it probably since August of last year.

00:00:32.140 But finally, it is ours.

00:00:34.080 We have it.

00:00:35.040 Yortoff is here.

00:00:36.620 It is a thing.

00:00:37.920 We got keys on Friday and we are thrilled.

00:00:42.660 Thank you so much, everyone out there, for your sticking through it with us, for your prayers, for your support,

00:00:53.060 for your generous donations. Those of you that have loaned us funds to make this happen,

00:00:59.520 thank you so much. It is a very exciting day for all of us in the Outstreet Folk Assembly and

00:01:06.620 especially for our folks in the new New York's Hof District. That's right. Each time we get a new

00:01:12.660 Hof, we section off a portion of the country and of the world to be part of that new district.

00:01:21.780 So the new Njordshof district is Florida, Georgia, Alabama, Mississippi, Louisiana, Texas, Arkansas, and Oklahoma.

00:01:40.140 Also, South America and South Africa.

00:01:45.300 And I'm thrilled for our folks there.

00:01:47.820 I'm excited.

00:01:48.600 We're still, you know, this is brand new. So we're doing a lot of planning on getting the getting everything ready for our dedication.

00:01:56.380 We don't want to wait too long on that. Hopefully we can get that in the next couple of months here.

00:02:00.560 And we'll let folks know as that gets a little bit closer.

00:02:05.440 So that's the first one. That's a that's a huge one and just a tremendous blessing that we're also very, very excited about.

00:02:13.080 um another one and uh this is something that we have wanted to see for for decades really but

00:02:27.720 you know over the last you know six seven years it's been a a really big need and now we're able

00:02:35.340 to finally start filling that need uh past couple of days matter of fact the first of this month

00:02:41.520 saw us officially open our registration for the fall to be the first kindergarten class of the

00:02:49.800 Alcetru Academy. The Alcetru Academy is a homeschool program geared to meet the standards

00:02:56.080 of all 50 states, and we're doing some research into trying to meet some Canadian province

00:03:04.120 standards. We didn't know if that would be an option or not, but we're looking into it.

00:03:07.920 I know we've got kids of all ages that want to do their homeschooling. Right now, we only have the curriculum for kindergarten, but we're trying to fix that. Our commitment is that we're going to stay with these kindergartners and complete the next the next grades curriculum before they reach that point.

00:03:25.040 so we'll be set and ready for them and we'll follow them through all the way to see them to

00:03:29.520 success as graduating class of 2035. But we want to go faster than that and we hope that we can

00:03:39.120 accomplish more than a year's worth of curriculum within that time. So hopefully as those other

00:03:44.320 grades begin to open up we will definitely let you guys know but it is a start and it's amazing.

00:03:50.320 huge thank you goes out to the dean of the us true academy go through robert stam he has done

00:03:56.800 a fantastic job he is absolutely the man for the job we are thrilled thrilled with what he is doing

00:04:04.160 it's a very very exciting time for us i'm looking it looks like we already had a

00:04:09.280 question before before we even started tonight so um

00:04:15.440 um humanipulation nation absolutely you can meet folks for you join we don't want it to be some

00:04:23.980 kind of a hard sell we'd love to bring our folk home if uh i didn't catch on the side maybe you 0.50

00:04:30.960 answered since then on where you live and we could direct you to your nearest folk builder

00:04:34.860 but we got people that would be very glad to meet you and explain to you what you're about answer or

00:04:40.340 what we're about rather answer any questions and just get to know you a little bit before

00:04:45.440 you decide you want to join. That's absolutely okay.

00:04:48.040 sorry guys just catching up you guys had a lot to say so far and it's it's only been a couple of

00:05:13.000 minutes. All right. So we've got questions here. Another thing to announce, and I'm really big on

00:05:26.060 doing this. I think it's really important. Officially, as of yesterday, we are started on

00:05:33.820 the quest for Frey's Hoff. Each one of these Hoffs that we get is a step and a much bigger

00:05:43.520 goal and a much bigger mission that we're all a part of. So as soon as we accomplish one,

00:05:49.160 I want to keep that momentum up, start moving for the next one, even if it's a little ways off.

00:05:55.080 So we are starting to fundraise today. We are starting to try to meet some numbers that we

00:06:02.820 need to make that happen. The first, first step is going to be paying off the remainder that we

00:06:07.320 have loaned or that's been loaned to us for New York's Hoff. But we are, we're actively scouting

00:06:14.240 and working on the plans for Fraze Hoff. You have a question on the side, where's Fraze Hoff going to

00:06:18.700 be? I can't tell you exactly where it's going to be because we don't know for certain, but we are

00:06:24.100 looking in the Eastern Pennsylvania, or I'm sorry, the Western Pennsylvania and the Eastern Ohio

00:06:31.220 area to start with and we'll see what that does but that's our plan we're very excited about that

00:06:38.880 we've got some amazing activity in that part of the country and yeah we're going to watch

00:06:43.780 that grow and succeed and see how fast we can we can get there welcome looks like we got some new

00:06:56.840 members over in the chat. That's fantastic. We'd love to see you guys here.

00:07:07.380 We get this sometimes. Morris Taylor, is there a list of approved

00:07:12.560 raiding materials for newbies to oust a true? 0.98

00:07:20.820 I think we have some similar lists that we could get you. I don't think we have a 0.99

00:07:25.260 just general approved lit or like a recommended reading list right now but i want to check on that

00:07:30.140 we should it's important um any of our folk builders in gothar are going to have great

00:07:35.260 recommendations for someone new to also true i always recommend the culture of the teutons

00:07:41.500 house true a native european spirituality by steve mcnalen um there's a lot of good books

00:07:48.220 out there depending on the topic that you want to want to know more about but hopefully and maybe

00:07:52.940 somebody will link up on the side i know we have a couple of like prerequisite reading lists for

00:07:57.740 our gothar program i think that may be a good place to start so some people could help me on

00:08:03.740 the side and try to help see where we've got those listed if not that's something that i'll

00:08:07.740 try to round up maybe for next month and have that ready

00:08:22.940 Tony, I hope you guys do keep me busy the whole hour.

00:08:26.960 I love talking with you guys.

00:08:28.000 I look forward to these every month and appreciate getting to spend the

00:08:32.940 evening with you guys.

00:08:39.300 Storm Chase, you were really close. 0.91

00:08:41.020 It's A-L-S.

00:08:42.780 Other than that, it's spelled right.

00:08:46.480 Ah, Lane got you.

00:08:47.720 Good.

00:08:52.940 thank you go the young i do what i can gotta gotta celebrate njordshoff those you didn't know

00:09:07.380 these are the njordshoff official colors are as close as we can get i know our green is kind of

00:09:13.020 unique for the njordshoff um but yeah that aqua green and gold we're very excited um i know those

00:09:22.800 guys that are going to do beautiful stuff down there with that hoff. I'm looking forward to it.

00:09:27.620 Witten Svon Harrell is going to go work his magic and head down there and paint an amazing mural of

00:09:34.540 Njorther in his hoff. And very excited to see how that turns out. That should be getting done

00:09:41.880 in the first half of next month. Very excited to see just the transformation and that place

00:09:49.640 It's really becoming ours.

00:10:10.140 Brandy, I could a little bit.

00:10:13.040 Brandy asked if I could speak about King Ithanaric of the Goths,

00:10:17.540 who is the hero that we're celebrating in June. And he's one of the recent ones that we've added.

00:10:27.480 A lot of the emphasis in the old days, in the free assembly days, in the early days of the

00:10:33.960 Asatru Folk Assembly, were on a very small segment of our ancestors who practiced Asatru,

00:10:42.960 often being, I guess, in a way, martyred for their faith during the conversion period in Norway.

00:10:53.260 But, and there's a few others like Radbot in Frisia and Hermann in Germany.

00:11:01.260 But the Gothic tribes are very often, I don't know, I think they're very underrepresented for our early faith.

00:11:10.960 King Athanaric was part of the great migrations of Gothic peoples when they encountered the Eastern Roman Empire, I guess, and into the far end of the Western Roman Empire there.

00:11:24.960 And it was a time where folks were converting to Aryan Christianity to interact with the empire and whatever, and they're leaving their ancestral ways behind.

00:11:37.100 And Athanaric took a firm stand down many of many of his own tribesmen that were turning their back on their gods.

00:11:47.600 And he he rallied his people around the gods of our ancestors to hold on to that faith, even in a time of adversity.

00:11:57.420 And he did so with a warrior spirit. And so we honor him and we celebrate him as a true hero of Ossetree that he was.

00:12:07.100 storm chase mike you picked a good time to join great things are happening in the state of florida

00:12:21.860 those guys in florida have had a great momentum now for quite some time

00:12:25.880 it's just accelerated with this new hof and really amazing things are in store in the sunshine state

00:12:37.100 Okay, so we've got a question that I think is comical on the side,

00:12:59.780 but when's there going to be an AFA shirt for fat guys?

00:13:02.440 For a long time, our sizing only went up to XXL.

00:13:07.980 It's a little bit different now.

00:13:09.300 We have a folk builder of ours, Melissa Mills in Missouri, doing, I don't know the term

00:13:16.500 the kids call it these days, but basically doing shirts to order.

00:13:20.360 So she's making them as they're needed and sending them out as opposed to us having a

00:13:24.980 whole bunch of stock left over in strange sizes that don't sell. 0.55

00:13:30.100 But Melissa can make different sizes for different size folks if we're finding it hard to get the sizes that we need.

00:13:38.440 If you reach out to Melissa, she'll she'll probably be able to figure something out.

00:13:52.280 Morris, I think that. So Morris Taylor asked a question where in the present.

00:13:57.600 where is the present time in the norse timeline um post ragnarok are the gods mostly deceased

00:14:06.980 and i think that that

00:14:08.920 i think that looks at our lore in a bit too literal of a way i think that the events of

00:14:20.240 our lore happen in what's sometime referred to as as mythic time or ritual time and I think those

00:14:30.240 the chronology of that functions differently um I think the the events of our lore

00:14:40.040 have a chronological correlation, but I think there's a constant cycle of

00:14:47.440 becoming and being and passing away and becoming again. I think it speaks of a lot of cycles.

00:14:55.980 One truth of our divinity is that our divinity are eternal. They live as long as our folk do,

00:15:01.020 Certainly. No, I wouldn't consider our gods deceased, but the story of their twilight and their returning speaks to us in a very profound way about the cyclical nature of things and about about rebirth.

00:15:20.340 But no, I think that our gods are living, living and existing gods.

00:15:24.680 And I think there's there's evidence of that all around us.

00:15:27.420 I think even when you see in the lore, when a god such as Balder is is killed and goes to Helheim, he's entertained and treated there in in great ceremony.

00:15:39.480 And he's still existing and holding, you know, holding court there until he until he returns back to to Asgard.

00:15:49.420 So I think that's something to keep in mind. I don't think it's nearly as as literal as all that.

00:15:53.960 And but theories and whatever aside, our gods are are living and we're experiencing those blessings right now.

00:16:03.800 But I think that's a good question.

00:16:05.700 okay uh folk builder cody rainard wants to ask about the importance of honor both within ourselves

00:16:23.700 and as well as with other others within uh within our faith community within house of truth

00:16:31.060 so what most of us think of as honor is very different than the conception that our ancestors

00:16:42.560 had and the modern understanding of honor being being your personal

00:16:46.520 your personal value through your personal code that you hold yourself to that's a very very

00:16:54.920 important thing and i want to take nothing away from it but in the most archaic sense of the word

00:17:00.800 And you still see it today when you hear about someone receiving an honor or someone being honored by a community.

00:17:08.160 Honor was a value, not so much that you placed in yourself, but a value that your community placed in you.

00:17:16.040 So much of Ausatru is a communal faith that is built around a society and a support system to where your reputation, your dignity, your honor was, you know, a fluid currency that affected your interactions with people around you.

00:17:36.580 And that honor was was your your tribe, your people placing a value on you as as a man on your worth.

00:17:47.120 And that had to do with all the things that we think of today with honor, like your ability to stand by your word, your character, your ability to to protect yourself, to protect your family, to protect your tribe, to stand up for what's right and what's good.

00:18:01.880 but that's the thing I think is most important to bring up tonight is that honor isn't just

00:18:10.020 your personal opinion of yourself in our situation honor is fundamentally your folks opinion of you

00:18:18.880 and their value that they put in you know whether you are worthy or whether you're not worthy

00:18:23.540 and that's that's an extremely important thing I think a lot of us overlook but it's very important

00:18:29.020 keep in mind and i appreciate that point was really brought home when i read the culture

00:18:34.140 of the teutons for the first time it really made a lot of that sink in for me

00:18:51.020 Alistair asks if I have any insight on Dr. Crawford's translation. I don't think it's

00:19:03.560 meant to be an exact word for word kind of translation of the have them all. It's very

00:19:09.480 much meant to be conveying the meaning in a contemporary you know americana way and i don't

00:19:22.760 the portions that i'm familiar with aren't aren't bad but i think

00:19:31.400 i think it's an interesting one to look at after you've read other versions of the have them all

00:19:35.720 but i would suggest some different versions before you look at dr crawford's version

00:19:40.040 i think it paraphrases it in a way that may be easier for you to understand but i do think that

00:19:45.960 you miss some of the nuance of the more more word for word translations

00:19:59.400 um what are my thoughts on the buffalo shooting and are we headed towards another civil war in

00:20:04.600 this country so i'll answer that question backwards i guess are we headed for another

00:20:14.680 civil war in this country i don't know what i have seen and i think what we've all seen is

00:20:22.040 a very very rapid polarization of traditionally minded people in this country and of

00:20:30.040 extremely liberal minded people. And I think that the middle ground has largely eroded away. And I

00:20:39.920 think that people have moved, I think this is true in the West in general, have moved to one

00:20:45.320 really far side or the other. And there's not a lot of space in between. There's not a lot of

00:20:49.700 commonality. And one thing that I think is, you know, I can't prognosticate on if and when some

00:20:56.460 kind of a hot war will happen. But what I will say is the divide is really concerning for a lot

00:21:03.920 of us, especially those of us, you know, I think the older that we are, the more we see the

00:21:08.760 difference in the time we grew up in and the distance between people now. And something that

00:21:14.580 I think is really challenging is things that many of us more traditional-minded folks,

00:21:24.060 our facts are not the same facts that the extreme leftists have. And I found that even within my

00:21:33.760 own family and dealing with my stepmother and some other things, they're things that they hold

00:21:39.760 to be true and factual are the exact opposite of things that I believe with all my heart are true

00:21:45.120 and factual. And when we can't even agree on the facts, it's very, very hard to coalesce on other

00:21:52.340 things. And so I do think we're seeing a lot of separation and a lot of turmoil with that.

00:21:58.620 I don't think there's any great impending civil war anytime soon. Quite frankly, I think that

00:22:04.720 you don't have regions of the country that are drastically different. I mean, you do in some

00:22:10.000 broad sweeps, but you find very liberal places being 55% liberal and 45% conservative or very

00:22:21.180 conservative places being 55 conservative and 45 liberal and you find that mixture

00:22:28.140 throughout all of society so i don't think it's nearly that clean um but i do think we all notice

00:22:34.380 the the strife that we have and i think that's really unfortunate for for the united states and

00:22:41.100 for the world in general right now unfortunately um no i think any i i think the the buffalo

00:22:48.220 shooting is tragic and really unfortunate. I think it's unfortunate on a lot of levels.

00:22:52.940 I think that, you know, senseless loss of life is always a really bad thing. And I think that

00:23:00.200 I think that people being in a spot where they feel so marginalized and

00:23:12.400 I don't know so ill treated that they resort to those kind of things is is also a very very sad

00:23:21.720 state of affairs and it speaks to what I spoke to earlier but no I think the whole situation is very

00:23:26.080 sad I don't prophesy any kind of you know active civil war in this country anytime soon what I

00:23:33.600 think is unfortunately a time that we're going through with this increased polarization and I

00:23:39.340 hope that we can come back to to some sensible things that make sense to Americans it's there's

00:23:47.260 something to be said for the things that made sense to our fathers to our grandfathers to our

00:23:52.340 great-grandfathers and going back to some things that our ancestors would recognize but I think

00:23:59.960 there's value in that. Jilly Storm, you are certainly one of the people that was behind

00:24:10.460 making your top happen. You helped us a lot behind the scenes. This woman helped us secure

00:24:18.200 the lion's share of the fundraising we were able to get. Also donated very heavily out

00:24:24.260 of our own pocket. We thank you and we really appreciate you.

00:24:29.960 Patrick you can wear which any you can represent any AFA Hoff you would like and or many of them

00:24:40.640 or whatever um unfortunately you could probably only wear one shirt at a time but no you're 0.67

00:24:45.960 encouraged to support all of the Hoffs and all of our gods that's one of the things in the AFA we

00:24:51.440 are we are hard polytheists we love all of our gods and I don't think it takes away from any of

00:24:57.840 them to worship any of their kinsmen, any of their fellow Iser.

00:25:27.840 So, James, oh, okay. Many of you guys may have not seen this. Let me see if I can.

00:25:37.640 Okay, one of the folk builders out there, if you could post up the

00:25:40.760 Freyshoff logo in the chat in case people have not seen it. Those that haven't seen it,

00:25:47.560 the crossed animal heads that we have on the gabling to represent our Hoffs for Freyshoff

00:25:53.220 are going to be elks um james asks why elks and not boars i think that our gothar for that upcoming

00:26:03.220 hoff district the ericsson's would be the perfect ones to answer the question but fundamentally um

00:26:10.740 the stag is certainly a a symbol or an animal associated with fray i think boar are more

00:26:17.060 commonly associated with Freyr. But when he when he trades in his sword and has to sacrifice his

00:26:24.380 sword to win Gerda, he then has to has to go about fighting with the antler of a stag. And

00:26:32.900 that's the weapon that he uses in his battle at Ragnarok. So the stag has become associated with

00:26:40.060 fray and i think that over the years his association with you know the abundant forest

00:26:46.040 has uh has certainly been part of frayer's cult so i think that's why we went with that the stag

00:26:53.020 is in a what's called a hunter green it's really pretty logo i hope they can throw it up over there

00:26:58.160 on the side that you guys can see it um if not we have it posted other places but uh yeah i think

00:27:04.680 they came up with a really beautiful logo. King of cheese. Dr. Crawford is not friendly with

00:27:17.320 Folkashausa, true, unfortunately. And that's, yeah, like I said, that's unfortunate.

00:27:23.140 the salutrian um where in florida is your top we're being a little bit closed lip about that

00:27:39.420 while some while we get through the next i don't know week we can have two weeks here

00:27:45.640 More information will come as we as we get going.

00:27:50.820 But I you will know you'll find out it will wind up on Google Maps here.

00:27:55.880 We're just waiting to to file certain things and get some stuff settled.

00:28:00.380 But I do want to. You said, why did we choose that building?

00:28:07.780 I wish that I had some great mystical, you know, some great mystical answer for you,

00:28:14.500 that there were great signs and portents and whatever else. Unfortunately, no, a lot of our

00:28:21.260 choices are economic choices. We did look long and hard. We found a number of buildings. We're

00:28:25.840 very happy with the building that we got, and even happier with the piece of property that it sits on.

00:28:30.820 I think we got a good deal on both, but the building really was an economic choice.

00:28:36.480 Florida is an interesting state. It has an amazing amount of churches that we could get

00:28:41.020 if we had eight million dollars to put on them they have these amazing huge church campuses

00:28:47.260 there but all those things are a little bit outside of our price range right now

00:28:50.720 so we looked for a number of churches that were within the ballpark of what we're shooting for

00:28:55.140 this one met those and now we we had good fortune while pursuing it and this one we ended up with

00:29:02.320 but it's both a geographical and a and an economic decision at the end of the day on

00:29:08.260 this particular location um austin do we stem from several gods and so singular god based upon

00:29:27.340 our faith uh i don't think based upon our faith i think based upon our reality um we believe very

00:29:35.200 much that when you say we I wonder I wonder if that's a humanity question or us as as Aryan men

00:29:45.940 and women of European descent I certainly believe that our people stem from our gods and yes from

00:29:53.300 many of our gods it's an important thing about who we are as also true ours we are polytheists

00:30:01.000 We believe in many gods that are involved in our divinity and that connect us to the divine.

00:30:10.140 I think that it's, you know, I don't choose to define other, you know, other groups of people's faith or how they came about.

00:30:20.360 But I would assume and I certainly respect indigenous gods of different cultures being the the progenitors of their people.

00:30:28.560 And I hope that gets at what you were asking.

00:30:30.720 Does paganism originate from evil satanic doctrine? Not at all. There's nothing inherently

00:30:36.280 evil about people worshiping the gods of their ancestors for thousands of years.

00:30:43.820 There's nothing satanic about a pantheon that does not include Satan. It's very presumptuous

00:30:51.860 for middle eastern faiths to project their god and their devil on groups of people who've been

00:31:00.900 practicing a faith completely independently for thousands of years before the other was thought up

00:31:08.580 but no there's nothing satanic or uh or evil in authentic doctrines of pagan faiths

00:31:21.860 Thank you.

00:31:51.860 so many of you on here, but it does mean every now and again, I got to stop for a second and

00:31:55.940 see who's asking what. Okay. Vril Vanir. What's the purpose of kindreds? Is it necessary to be

00:32:09.300 part of one? And how does one go about creating one purpose of kindreds? The AFA kindred is

00:32:14.660 basically a local congregation of AFA members. I think that's the best way to put it. But there's

00:32:21.060 a caveat to that a kindred is much more of a tight-knit group of people that share a lot of

00:32:27.220 commonality than just like a standard typical christian congregation you don't need uh that

00:32:35.540 being said just because you're an afa member in air in an area does not mean that you're necessarily

00:32:40.580 invited to or would gel with a particular kindred so we have many kindred sometimes overlapping in

00:32:46.020 the geography that they're in before we had hoffs the kindreds were kind of our best point of

00:32:56.420 i guess local afa identity to where far-flung groups of afa members could rally behind

00:33:02.660 some heraldry that was theirs and feel like they were uh they were a part of the greater whole

00:33:07.940 in in that kind of way you absolutely do not have to be part of a kindred to

00:33:13.300 to participate in the Austro Folk Assembly.

00:33:17.380 You also many times don't have to be a part of a kindred

00:33:20.120 to be invited and welcomed to events that they host.

00:33:22.460 That depends on the individual kindred.

00:33:24.760 But no, you don't have to be a part of a kindred

00:33:27.060 to be in the AFA.

00:33:30.440 I wouldn't worry about that at all.

00:33:31.700 If you were interested in forming an AFA kindred first

00:33:35.080 to join an AFA kindred, I'd find one close to you.

00:33:38.260 I'd get to know the members.

00:33:39.860 And then that's a decision for you all to make down the road

00:33:42.340 you know each other a little bit better if you wanted to start an afa kindred and there's not

00:33:46.500 one in your area or you just don't feel like it's a good fit and there's you know other

00:33:50.500 folks you'd like to have a kindred with um the basics of that are having at least three afa

00:33:58.500 members and uh the three afa members would then apply for uh kindred recognition and

00:34:06.420 I should know this, but I feel like it may have changed recently. We had a year probationary

00:34:15.720 period. I don't know if that's six months now or if it's still a year. I feel a little bit

00:34:19.580 embarrassed. I don't know the answer to that. Hopefully our kindred coordinator over on the

00:34:24.500 side, Jason Gallagher, may be able to answer that better for you. But there's a probationary period

00:34:30.060 that you go through to see if you guys gel well together, if the members stay on the same course

00:34:38.740 spiritually, and if time moves you guys together or if you guys drift apart. So once you're done

00:34:43.860 with that, you would be recognized as an official kindred of the Astro Folk Assembly. Matter of fact,

00:34:49.040 we've had, I believe, three kindreds become official here within the last month.

00:35:00.060 alistair how much am i looking forward to steve's next book i'm i'm really looking forward to steve's

00:35:12.480 next book i i don't have a real understanding of a timeline of when that's going to come out

00:35:17.000 but i know it's a subject and something he spent a lot of years focusing on if i understand what

00:35:22.080 he's what he you know what his idea for the content is and uh i think that'll be really

00:35:28.660 good. And I think it'll probably be really good for, for personal outdoor practice. So yeah,

00:35:32.860 I'm looking forward to that and, uh, I wish him the best with getting that set up and,

00:35:37.160 and distributed. Um, but yeah, I'm absolutely looking forward to that book coming out and I

00:35:41.020 know he's excited about it too.

00:35:58.660 Um, okay.

00:36:27.800 morris has a question is there a resource on how to financially survive when canceled um

00:36:42.600 i'm trying to think like there's not a precise um like a website or something i'd direct you to

00:36:47.880 or a book or something i'd direct you to but there's been a number of people that have

00:36:53.400 suffered persecution in the workplace for their faith um or for you know their views not being

00:37:01.640 far left and uh we've had a lot of people who've gone through that a lot of people come out the

00:37:07.400 other side um you know a lot of people that have dealt with that and uh been just fine and figured

00:37:13.480 out you know a new career path and and gone someplace where they were appreciated for who

00:37:18.680 they are and what their values were i would certainly look and ask those people um

00:37:28.440 if there's a specific legal situation involved our law speaker alan turnage

00:37:33.640 might have some advice on that um but it's not the end of the world it's very easy to see

00:37:42.280 ways that door it's really easy to see the doors that become shut

00:37:47.080 but sometimes it's harder to see the doors that are open and there are a tremendous amount of

00:37:51.000 doors open for you to exist and to exist authentically with who you are and what you believe

00:37:57.400 they may be harder to find and they may not be in in the career path that you're currently on

00:38:03.480 depending but there's a lot of hope out there and there's a lot of great things

00:38:09.720 we know about all the negative stuff but i think it's time that we focused on some of the positive

00:38:14.280 things because there's tremendous amounts of opportunities out there and we see people succeed

00:38:18.360 and win every day um okay we've got a

00:38:35.320 i've got a question um jilly suspects that non-whites are actively being recruited into

00:38:47.160 the u.s military and they're mostly anti-white and wouldn't be on the side of white folks what

00:38:53.560 do you think i think there's a lot of things going on in the united states military that

00:38:59.960 are contrary to things that we would like and that are not in support of our values,

00:39:06.900 unfortunately. And that's really sad because we've got a lot of amazing folks that have

00:39:12.260 put a lot of years and put a lot of their own safety at risk for their nation.

00:39:21.040 And it's unfortunate that a lot of those values are rapidly changing in a very bad way.

00:39:26.220 And I think that, you know, they are certainly trying to recruit people that don't share the values the rest of us have. 0.98

00:39:33.920 And I think that the people that they're trying to recruit are often non-white. 0.75

00:39:40.720 But I know that they're recruiting a lot of white people as well into the military.

00:39:45.200 But I think what's perhaps more concerning is they're trying to recruit exclusively leftists and weed out folks with more traditional values.

00:39:55.580 And I know that's hurting a lot of our people.

00:39:57.860 And I've got friends that I'm very close to that are hurt by the push to make everyone share the same political values in the military.

00:40:08.700 And I find that really, really unfortunate the way that's going down right now.

00:40:15.200 unfortunately my wife is telling me that you guys can't can't post pictures over in the side

00:40:37.180 that's okay um we'll post more about it you guys will see the phrase hoff logo more spots

00:40:43.300 I want to look at something else that I had. There was a couple of questions that I had before this that I want to make sure I get to before I go back to the live questions.

00:40:54.520 So one of our folk builders wanted me to ask, and I feel like it's a good question.

00:40:59.480 If you're. And it's not just rhetorical, if you have a good reason, post it on the side and, you know, we'll think about it, maybe take it into consideration.

00:41:08.340 But question is this. If you're listening to these and you enjoy them and you agree with you agree with our position, are you an AFA member?

00:41:18.300 And if you're not an AFA member, why not? And yeah, that's a suggestion that you should go ahead and join up.

00:41:24.600 But it's also a question. If there's something keeping you back, I'd be curious to know.

00:41:29.840 Oh, oh, oh, a special guest.

00:41:32.760 got the most beautiful little girl in the world right here

00:41:38.400 my daughter Aubrey 0.69

00:41:40.080 and she always likes to come on

00:41:42.380 and see you guys when I am

00:41:43.700 when I am doing these each month

00:41:46.480 I am

00:41:50.800 but I'm always proud to show her off to you guys 0.98

00:41:56.280 she's kind of squirmy

00:41:57.860 so I don't think she's going to be with us super long tonight

00:42:00.120 maybe lose my place all right what else we got here we've got a couple others i'll get to here

00:42:11.880 in a second that were asked before we started it um who do we talk to about hats shorts and more

00:42:22.260 shirts talk to iops you talk to folk builder melissa mills uh m mills at runestone.org

00:42:31.220 she's working on that we're working on some workout shorts and workout tank tops right now

00:42:37.380 and i know she's going to get some t-shirts up for new york's off here very soon

00:42:42.660 um back to the questions uh that i didn't get to because my old daughter distracted me there for

00:42:49.380 a second okay typically the feast of the iron her yar is observed close to veterans day

00:42:55.140 would memorial day be a more appropriate day to observe it

00:43:00.820 i think both are appropriate honestly i think any day would be an appropriate day to have it

00:43:05.860 the value of doing it on veterans day is the tradition the fact that we've done that for

00:43:15.140 decades now in Ausatru and it's picked up it's picked up steam and the feasting and the celebrating

00:43:22.020 at that time of year have really taken on their own their own value because of that tradition

00:43:28.420 if we went back in time and chose to put Feast of the Einherjar on Memorial Day instead I think

00:43:33.540 that would have been you know completely appropriate but um I think there's a tremendous

00:43:39.460 value in keeping it where it is and i don't i certainly don't think it's wrong where it is

00:43:44.020 but the value like i said is in that tradition um did our ancestors accept the practice of polygamy

00:43:53.940 and does modern house to accept this as a form of healthy families

00:43:58.260 that's such a so when we talk about our ancestors we are talking about the people of Europe and

00:44:14.020 large chunks of northern and central Asia during

00:44:21.540 thousands of years of migration. Yes, there were circumstances and times to where

00:44:30.280 members of our folk did practice polygamy. Most often in our history, that was reserved towards

00:44:38.600 royal houses. And there were times to where, you know, that made some sense.

00:44:46.280 modern ausitut does not accept this practice as a form for as something for healthy families

00:44:53.100 and the reason is i don't know there's several but one of the things um and tacitus spoke about

00:45:01.520 this the marital values of our folk were were remarkable for the time that tacitus and the

00:45:10.600 Romans encountered the Germanics. And I think there's something to that. I think that in the

00:45:17.280 day and age that we live in, practicing open polygamy draws a lot of negative attention and

00:45:23.980 puts a lot of confusion on our children. And for that one outlying couple that choose to practice

00:45:29.520 that, for the rest of us to accept that and have that around our children and our families,

00:45:35.380 it's unnecessarily confusing for these children that we're trying to raise um i think so many

00:45:42.420 things like that have a lot to do with the social context and i think that polygamy in today's

00:45:49.220 social context doesn't make sense and like i said goes to to sully and and erode the dignity of our

00:46:00.260 folk and our ability to stand with our head up amongst regular people and it also it confuses

00:46:06.100 our children and i want our children to be raised in a healthy way in a way that's that's going to

00:46:11.860 yield good families and good good value good self-esteem and uh and a solid foundation to

00:46:21.300 pass on to their children and i don't think that we are in a place where polygamy does that in this

00:46:27.380 day and age and i certainly don't think there's any sort of divine mandate that we must do it

00:46:34.260 so if there's no if there's no spiritual reason that we ought to do it i think it's something

00:46:39.300 that we probably aren't best served by doing and incorporating in today's day and age

00:46:47.780 another question story of tyr and fenrir even though the gods had taken fenrir in when he was

00:46:53.140 young and eventually bound him he still ends up killing odin uh which they were trying to change

00:46:59.780 does this show that even though we are free to shape our life according to our skills

00:47:04.980 our end is predestined um no i don't believe so i think that

00:47:12.740 i think that the predestination thing plays too heavy-handed a role in

00:47:18.180 i don't know in in 19th and 20th century conceptualization of of the viking era

00:47:28.820 what i think that story does teach us is that chaos is always dangerous and that the quest is

00:47:37.620 to always stay one step ahead of the chaotic forces that seek to devour us you see that over

00:47:44.660 and over and over again in our myth cycles you see that with uh the wolves chasing the sun and

00:47:49.860 the moon you know they're always right in their grasp and they've got to stay just ahead you see

00:47:56.180 that in the motion of of the sun wheel um so i i don't think that tale is as much about

00:48:04.980 predestination as it is about the need to be ever vigilant against chaos because the second we let

00:48:11.140 our guard down chaos takes over and and causes destruction so to keep chaos at bay and to keep

00:48:22.820 one step ahead of the chaotic forces that are after us i think is a bigger theme of that of

00:48:28.420 of that particular story.

00:48:45.400 Ah, T-man, I understand, you know,

00:48:49.120 gas prices are very difficult for all of us.

00:48:51.620 One thing that a lot of us have done

00:48:53.880 is really tried to focus on carpooling.

00:48:56.180 If you can find members in your area to carpool to the Hoth, that's going to really save everybody money.

00:49:01.600 And it's going to give you kind of a cool opportunity to get to know some folks and spend some quality time with some members of your folk.

00:49:08.880 So I can't recommend that enough where you can carpool.

00:49:12.760 Even if you don't know people, reach out to your local folk builder.

00:49:15.800 They'd be happy to get you in touch with somebody that may be convenient for you to carpool with.

00:49:21.560 And it's a really good chance to get to know people and build relationships.

00:49:26.180 Sorry, guys, I'm catching up on the side.

00:49:46.860 You guys are way ahead of me.

00:49:48.400 It seems like time's going by quick tonight.

00:49:56.180 If you're looking for Steve McNallan, old podcasts and old videos, we do have quite a bit of those

00:50:18.940 on this very YouTube channel. If you go look back at our older content, I've tried to post

00:50:23.840 what I can find, but that's a place to look for some stuff too, Alistair.

00:50:40.700 Got so much chat over in the side. This is great. Do ask questions if you guys have any.

00:50:47.380 It's getting close to seven o'clock hour, and I'm probably going to let you guys go here pretty soon.

00:50:52.000 So if you have things that you do want me to ask or to address, please make sure you post them up over on the side.

00:51:02.740 Sinister Warrior, are there any services in any of the HOFs that the public can attend or is that members only?

00:51:08.640 I wouldn't say that it's members only. There are plenty of services that other also true are can attend.

00:51:14.800 but um you know random members of the public that just want to observe something not so much

00:51:22.640 I mean if if there was a member and he had family that wasn't also true that wanted to come

00:51:26.940 see what we're about I think that would be okay but as far as the general community now I know

00:51:32.340 sometimes uh especially at Baldur's Hoff they've had a lot of community interaction

00:51:36.200 I know they've had you know invited locals and folks in in Murdoch Minnesota there to come sit

00:51:42.440 down and have kind of a meet and greet at the Hoff. And those things do occur periodically.

00:51:49.400 I know out at Odin's Hoff around Yule time, we'll open up for Yule and do a toy giveaway and

00:51:56.780 hot chocolate and story time for local children. And that's a time the community can come out.

00:52:02.360 At each of our Hoffs, every month, we do a food pantry where we give away food to the community.

00:52:08.140 That's the time that community members are welcome to come out and meet folks at the Hoff and see it and get to know us there.

00:52:16.100 So I think those are the opportunities.

00:52:17.600 But as far as an actual worship service, that's done with other Asus who are in their families.

00:52:34.000 Glad to see you here, Bobby.

00:52:37.580 Okay, Morris asks, in the Eddas, there are some heroes that do bad things.

00:52:59.580 Is that a true belief that people are not good or evil, but mostly accountable?

00:53:07.580 Um, I mean, I suppose that's one way of putting it. I don't, people are not perfect. Um, and I think that's something that does come through in our lore, like our, our heroes struggle and, you know, have to make oftentimes actions that are making the best of their circumstance or balancing conflicting obligations.

00:53:35.000 I think. I would say it also true that we don't believe that, you know, people are 100 percent good or evil.

00:53:46.620 We think that people ought to be guided by nobility and by their better selves and should strive towards that.

00:53:53.860 I don't think we're under any illusion that everybody's going to be perfect all of the time.

00:53:57.780 And there's situations that that call for actions that other situations wouldn't call for.

00:54:03.280 But I think the idea of accountability that you mentioned is a fundamental to what we do.

00:54:08.680 When you incur a debt, you need to pay the debt and make it right and move forward, as opposed to washing a slate clean, as you see in other faiths.

00:54:17.980 No, you need to atone for the things you've done by making them right, by fixing and repairing what you've broken, by repairing relationships that you've broken if you wish to continue.

00:54:33.280 Sorry, guys, my computer kind of jumped on my scroll in there.

00:55:03.280 Thank you.

00:55:33.280 all right guys i'm trying to keep up on your conversation on the side here i know there's

00:55:36.480 some dead air going on don't do it on purpose thank you my daughter is very cute i'm glad

00:55:41.040 that you think so ew um i am so very very lucky to uh to have aubrey in my life we had her a little

00:55:49.680 bit a little bit older my wife and i were both 39 when we had aubrey so it's really special that that

00:55:56.640 we uh that we have her

00:56:10.640 okay we've got the storm chase mike asks have a question that i've had to worry about being a new

00:56:29.160 afa member i've been married for 22 years to a spanish lady with a 15 year old son

00:56:34.520 Would that be a problem? She is still Christian. If she is a Spaniard, that would not be a problem. 0.80

00:56:44.440 Spaniards from Spain are absolutely our folk. If her son is also a Spaniard, that would not be a problem.

00:56:52.900 Her still being a Christian might be a problem for you and your family. 0.99

00:56:56.200 I always think it works better when a family is united by their by their faith. 0.93

00:57:02.320 I think that's one of those fundamentals that.

00:57:07.000 Puts a lot of strain on a relationship, if that's not resolved one way or another, I would love to see your wife choose to become also true.

00:57:14.300 But no, I don't think any of those things that you mentioned the way you mentioned them would prevent your participation at all.

00:57:20.000 And, you know, my wife may change her mind on some things when she comes around and meets meets our folk.

00:57:26.620 That's the hope.

00:57:27.500 And I think that, you know, one of the biggest things, even if someone is not currently also true, if they open up their heart to the gods just to see, I think they'd be very surprised and often are very surprised with the results.

00:57:40.000 We've had a lot of people attend FA gatherings and spouses or family members who didn't start out as also true that have really embraced it and that's changed their life for the good.

00:57:56.200 how do i get afa flags looking so crisp if you look at this one it's still got the folds in it

00:58:15.480 from the bag the other one i've just had for a very long time a lot of people have different

00:58:20.180 ideas though about putting them in the washing machine with you know a damp rag and seeing how

00:58:25.360 that goes to get the creases out of them. There's a lot of tricks out there on the flags, but

00:58:31.440 as you can see, I'm not necessarily a guy to ask about those tricks.

00:58:55.360 But we see a lot of the tricks coming in on the side.

00:59:04.140 I see people already have ideas on what you should do with those.

00:59:21.080 So much going on in the chat.

00:59:22.760 I'm sorry, guys.

00:59:23.460 i'm trying to keep up and trying to see if you guys have questions i don't mean to be elusive

00:59:27.780 something else to be aware of um your runestones this month they're taking a little bit longer

00:59:32.500 because we had a couple of big things happen on the first and like i said on friday but this month

00:59:38.500 the runestone it was just getting too big as you guys may have noticed and that's an amazing amazing

00:59:43.540 problem to have it was too full of amazing things that our folk are doing every month so now what's

00:59:49.380 going to happen if you're a subscriber to our runestone is you will get one that's specific

00:59:55.060 to your hoff district and if you want to see all the others that's fine they'll be on the various

00:59:59.940 hoff district websites but also um they'll all be on the main afa website at www.runestone.org

01:00:09.860 but that's kind of a change that uh jessica lambert our folk builder who also

01:00:14.660 is the the editor of the runestone wants me to let you guys know about

01:00:20.760 where will the next off be you hope ohio you're probably right like i said it's

01:00:31.260 going to be in ohio or very very western pennsylvania possibly

01:00:44.660 um king of cheese perhaps i'd have to think on that that would be really cool though i'm i'm

01:00:56.480 excited that you've got that skill and are going to get working on that i think forging is

01:01:00.220 is a really neat uh neat thing um but yeah let me think on that because

01:01:05.620 because we may very well have some things that it would be nice to get forged

01:01:08.800 Roy, there is not a date set for the dedication yet. We're trying to iron that out. I've been

01:01:33.820 working on that on the back end. I need to look at a couple of things. I would love to have it

01:01:39.660 maybe the end of July or perhaps the very beginning of August. I'd love to have it in

01:01:47.440 the end of July, but we'll see if we can make that happen. It's not firm yet.

01:01:51.600 you heard that uh odenshoff people vril vanier on the side really wants to connect with some local

01:02:07.440 uh fellow ostrich or in the odenshoff district um same name on gab or instagram so hopefully

01:02:14.580 we'll have some folks can reach out to to that gentleman

01:02:16.860 um will we live stream the opening ceremony for njordshoff it's a good question um we hadn't

01:02:27.680 thought about that that's something i think we should maybe consider doing i'm not sure

01:02:31.240 we'll uh we'll definitely think about that that's the first time that's been brought up as an idea

01:02:36.160 uh roy we would love to have you come out to any of our hops i know you need to see

01:02:45.580 Baldur's off and York's off and Odin's off. So we'd love to get you out to all of those.

01:02:55.880 The Portuguese are also our folk. That's fine as well, Storm Chase Mike.

01:03:15.580 i appreciate mandy helping me out over on the side because i see i'm i believe i'm missing

01:03:27.720 stuff tonight that's because there's so much enthusiasm over on the side i really appreciate

01:03:32.200 you guys i hope that i'm not missing too much of y'all's questions sorry for the dead air but

01:03:37.800 there's so much to try to follow that uh i'm doing my best on it but i'm i'm really glad so many of

01:03:43.440 you join me tonight. So Mace, I would recommend books by Edred Thorson. I think he is absolutely

01:03:53.160 an expert on the subject matter he writes about. I know that people have varying opinions on him

01:04:00.000 as a man, but as an author and as a runemaster, I think he's untouchable. I think he's very good

01:04:08.580 all of those things. He has spent his entire adult life as a practitioner of paganism, of

01:04:17.840 runic magic, of esoterics. He's also spent that time being a, you know, a lettered scholar in the

01:04:26.720 subject. I think he is the most knowledgeable person living when it comes to runes and all

01:04:35.020 things runic and i would uh i would highly recommend many of edward's books

01:04:49.420 pam idaho is in the odenshof district again i wish i could throw a picture up because i

01:04:56.300 could illustrate where the different districts are that picture will be going up on the the main

01:05:01.980 runestone site though to help understand but idaho is in the odenshoff district the odenshoff

01:05:07.820 district website is www.odenshoff.org

01:05:37.820 All right, guys, I think I'm finally down to the scroll to the bottom of the chat.

01:06:01.820 Does anybody else have any questions for me tonight?

01:06:04.760 we'll give it just a couple more minutes here in case anybody has any last minute questions

01:06:08.600 or things they wanted to to get me to speak on and uh then i will i will let you all go

01:06:31.560 all right guys well thank you so much for joining me tonight

01:06:34.760 What an amazing start to this month. I want to thank everyone who helped make it possible.

01:06:45.380 Every one of you out there that donated and went to your altars with it and helped loan money to

01:06:53.620 get yours off. What a wonderful thing to do for us. More importantly, what an amazing thing to do

01:07:03.260 from your there um hail your there until next time uh oh make it out to midsummer in california

01:07:13.020 if you guys can almost forgot our biggest event of the year we've already got north of 150 people

01:07:19.180 planning to show up if you can make it out to odenshoff in brownsville california here in

01:07:25.020 just a couple of weeks. We would love to see you there. Like I said, it's the biggest event of the

01:07:33.520 year. It's going to be amazing. We'd love to see everybody. If not, I hope you have an amazing

01:07:38.060 midsummer wherever you find yourself, and I will talk to you in July. Hail the gods, hail the folk,

01:07:44.700 hail the AFA.

Asatru Folk Assembly - June 06, 2022

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