00:00:23.200The path you take to avoid your fate often brings you to it.
00:00:26.160And this is, again, I think this is an interesting debate amongst the folk in relation to willful action or fatalism, as it's often referred to on the other side, where it doesn't matter what you do, your fate is your fate, or is it a certain mixture of will and fate and things like that.
00:00:46.540I think that also was part of the real drive of the story. And so I think it's ultimately a warning, a warning about in the face of danger, we laugh oftentimes. I think culturally for most people on this call will know what I mean by we laugh in the face of danger, we meet our end smiling and we go forth in glory. And that is culturally an aspect of our lives.
00:01:14.740um this is kind of saying be careful about hubris versus thumos and i'm using the greek words because
00:01:23.080those are a little bit easier to kind of um like allocate on on the internet if you look up you
00:01:29.280know and again that's very hellenic too so there's a an overarching uh concept of thumos is about
00:01:38.840bravery and about honor and about living a bright life hubris is when you take it too far and you
00:01:46.480um you fail wisdom and so you know courageousness tempered by wisdom is thumos and
00:01:56.460courageousness without it is hubris in a lot of ways so um yeah it was i would say it would be a
00:02:03.320warning i don't know if it's necessarily a warning to a mother um again but the overall
00:02:09.120arching point of the story is is that we must do all that we can because the option to do nothing
00:02:14.660is is was seen far worse so do all that you can but um when when the gods are throwing things at
00:02:22.340balder that is definitely a painting of that kind of hubris moment that allows for the deceitfulness
00:02:30.620of loki to sneak in to find the blind and to guide his hand and he searched for the gentle
00:02:39.360mistletoe that that frail and tiny and and and joyous piece the child of the oak and
00:02:46.060the the one thing that wouldn't do any harm does the greatest harm there's a lot of things we can
00:02:51.980see in like the grim fairy tales and even in like slavic lore and hellenic lore there's a lot of