Asatru Folk Assembly - September 24, 2021


Matt Flavel on Expedition Truth September 2021


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In this episode of Expedition Truth, host Jack Ashcraft speaks with Matthew F. Flavel, the leader of the Alshatri Folk Assembly. They discuss the ethics and morals of the Aesir and Vanir religions and how they differ from Christianity.

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00:00:45.780 Hope you had a good week. Welcome to the program. I think you're going to like the discussion tonight.
00:00:51.380 I wanted to have my guest back on because I think that a lot of people have a really misunderstanding regarding the ethics and morals of indigenous peoples, specifically the indigenous peoples of Western Europe.
00:01:15.760 and within their native religions.
00:01:22.900 And that's due in large part to Christianity's,
00:01:27.800 to be quite honest, there's some propaganda out there
00:01:31.080 that missionaries put forth over many, many years
00:01:35.400 that these people lacked morals and ethics and values, etc.
00:01:41.480 And I think a careful study of history
00:01:44.740 demonstrates that that's not so.
00:01:49.380 And I think it's a bit of an unfair approach 0.99
00:01:52.460 to any sort of dialogue that Christians would have 0.99
00:01:58.540 with people who adhere to those indigenous religions.
00:02:03.380 My guest is a returning guest,
00:02:05.740 and he's successfully been leading the Alshatri Folk Assembly
00:02:09.600 through its brightest era to date since mid-summer 2016.
00:02:14.400 He's opened two offs under his leadership, one in North Carolina and one in Minnesota.
00:02:20.820 Along with one in California, those temples stand as the first of their kind
00:02:25.460 dedicated to the Aesir in North America.
00:02:29.480 With him at the helm, the AFA has boasted not only a drastic increase in membership numbers,
00:02:36.340 but also the number and quality of national events throughout the United States and Europe,
00:02:40.440 giving folkish Al-Shutru opportunities to gather in worship of their gods
00:02:47.140 and fellowship with communities where there had been none before.
00:02:50.740 You might recognize him from the last program we did on Al-Shutru.
00:02:56.580 My guest tonight is Matthew Flavel.
00:02:59.440 Matthew, welcome to the program.
00:03:01.940 Hey, it's good to be here.
00:03:03.340 Thank you so much for having me back on the show.
00:03:05.740 Thank you for coming back.
00:03:07.020 I enjoyed our last discussion, and I think it was very informative.
00:03:12.900 And so I wanted to do this one.
00:03:15.280 You heard my opening spiel there.
00:03:19.180 I think there is some unfair critique running around out there.
00:03:28.440 Most of it, based on antiquated information, is not likely very accurate.
00:03:34.880 it. And so I wanted to have you on to talk about the ethics of your faith. Would you
00:03:47.080 agree with me that there are some misunderstandings out there, even to this day?
00:03:54.100 Absolutely. And I think you were spot on that a lot of that had to do with early Christian
00:03:59.020 missionary work. What I thought was kind of interesting to note, you know, you use the
00:04:03.260 term antiquated but in the times of antiquity uh tacitus a roman writer wrote about uh germanic
00:04:11.340 pagans of the time to point out the fact that they had you know noteworthy ethics and that you know
00:04:18.700 at the time their ethics were often superior to that in the empire so that would mean that
00:04:24.300 much of what we hear about them is just outright
00:04:28.940 wrong. I would say so, and I think that's
00:04:33.160 probably what any group of people does when they take over an area. You mentioned
00:04:37.220 the propaganda, and I think everybody's guilty of that to one degree or another.
00:04:41.000 True, yeah, the victor writes history, and in this 0.95
00:04:45.340 case, Christianity was the victor, and 0.74
00:04:48.160 history was written from that perspective, and
00:04:51.820 you know sometimes was exaggerated and this is one of those times when it was clearly exaggerated
00:04:57.740 now what i did matthew as i went to your website runestone.org for listeners who are interested
00:05:05.700 and i noticed you have a statement of ethics there and what i'd like you to do
00:05:10.980 is go through each of these these statements and just explain to me how they look in practical
00:05:19.140 terms.
00:05:20.880 And so the first one is
00:05:23.200 the Aesir and Vanir principle. 0.95
00:05:27.580 Okay, well
00:05:29.080 basically we
00:05:32.960 worship our gods and
00:05:34.840 goddesses under
00:05:36.760 their Germanic names,
00:05:39.240 the two tribes, the Aesir and the Vanir.
00:05:44.860 That principle is number one because
00:05:47.120 our worship of our gods is is at the very forefront of what we do and how we how we define our ethics
00:05:53.280 and how we define uh our practice because our gods are watching and we want them at all times
00:05:58.720 to be proud of us and proud of the work we do one of the one of the words used in in the explanation
00:06:05.600 on the website is honor what does honor mean to you so honor's got kind of a dual meaning
00:06:12.560 it's developed in society to where you know the kind of understood meaning is your personal code
00:06:18.560 of of dignity of right and wrong and you know those things that you value personally but
00:06:24.480 originally the term meant um the value that your community placed on you you would receive an honor
00:06:31.840 like when you get an award sometime today they'll still use that term you've received an honor you've
00:06:36.560 been honored by so it's your personal value due to your character to yourself and to your community
00:06:45.600 and those who know you now there's a western european principle honor used to extend to one's
00:06:55.680 personal reputation the reputation of their family their loved ones um would you say the
00:07:01.760 same thing you you maintain that traditional understanding absolutely and that idea of
00:07:06.800 reputation is so important we live in a time where so many people you know suggest that you
00:07:11.120 shouldn't care what other people think and i think we should supremely care what other people think
00:07:15.520 not that that should rule what we do but we should care what our friends think of us we should care
00:07:19.600 what our enemies think of us we should above all care what our families and what our gods and
00:07:24.640 ancestors think of us. Yeah, I think one of the illnesses of postmodern Western society is the
00:07:34.640 fact that there is no real honor. It has been tossed aside. And so we live in a society where
00:07:42.400 someone can cast the most egregious aspersions on your person, on your spouse, your children,
00:07:51.520 your family, your heritage, and do so without any thought of responsibility for that. And
00:08:03.280 we're just supposed to take it, you know, back, you're very aware back in, you know,
00:08:10.800 only 100 years ago or so, if you had done that, somebody would take you out to a duel.
00:08:15.760 and you would have to defend what your mouth spoke.
00:08:21.280 And so people were less likely to shoot their mouths off.
00:08:27.540 I mean, do you think that there's something to honor in modern society
00:08:32.220 that needs to recapture at least the fervor that was once there?
00:08:39.420 Absolutely.
00:08:40.060 Absolutely. And I think one of the problems is, you know, the path that civilization has taken is kind of taking anybody's ability to stand for their honor in a combative way out of their hands.
00:08:52.200 You know, just 30 years ago, if you said certain things, you'd get popped in the mouth and that was completely acceptable.
00:08:57.380 It's not so much today. And I don't really advocate for a more violent society, but I certainly wish we were in a place where our words carried weight, where we said less of them and thought more about the ones that we say.
00:09:10.060 uh you mentioned earlier it's very very little thought very little consequence to people saying
00:09:14.860 some of the most horrendous things about a person about their beliefs about their family
00:09:19.420 and there's very little we can do that fixes that in the verbal arena but one thing that you can't
00:09:26.540 out-civilize reality and that's part of the thing if you're a person who has honor and dignity
00:09:32.060 especially because words are as cheap as they are today
00:09:34.940 people tend to people tend to internalize that and internalize who you are more
00:09:42.460 um you know in spite of criticisms if you shine with example and you obviously carry yourself
00:09:50.520 with a certain amount of dignity a lot of those criticisms matter less than they would have
00:09:55.240 you know years ago yeah i i didn't mean to suggest that uh that you believe we should be
00:10:02.320 oh yeah of course more violent society my thinking is that uh at least in those in those days there
00:10:09.760 was a threat of violence if you shot your mouth off and so you were more careful in your choice
00:10:16.720 of words and i think that that um that made for a more civil society overall certainly it did when
00:10:24.640 you had boundaries that you know there was a consequence to crossing that matter we see that
00:10:29.840 in this day and age now when everyone's so removed on computer on the computer on
00:10:33.760 on the screen you can type the most horrendous things to someone that you'd never say to their
00:10:38.720 face and it's not because you're scared they beat you up that may factor in but you have to look at
00:10:44.560 someone in the eye and see the effect your words have on them and most people don't want to do
00:10:50.000 that but they're very bold when they're across a computer screen or you know talking over the
00:10:54.480 internet yeah social media is a is a poison that's for sure let's uh let's jump to a point
00:11:01.360 two there the folk community principle um yeah so basically um individuality is really important
00:11:10.880 it's great to have really strong individuals but it's supremely important and always was to our
00:11:16.080 ancestors to be a functional part of your community life lived in a context in a community in a
00:11:23.840 a community of people like yourself is at the very heart of you know what we believe the value in
00:11:30.480 existence is your relationship to other people um so much of our faith is based on our relationship
00:11:35.440 with our gods in that community but to our ancestors that was very holistic to to your
00:11:40.640 tribe to your family to uh you know the people that you had to work with or you had to go to
00:11:46.400 battle with, having that sense of community, it's often called the kin sense in Ausatru,
00:11:53.920 is essential to how we practice and how we define ourselves as the role we play in that community.
00:11:59.600 Now you mentioned in this point that you must work to make justice and law rule.
00:12:07.920 What do those two words mean within the context of Ausatru?
00:12:12.080 um well one of our one of our noble virtues is truth and the idea of dealing with things
00:12:19.760 fairly i think especially when you talk about the ideas of justice and law
00:12:24.560 if you're in a position to have power to enforce things it's even more incumbent upon you to do so
00:12:33.360 judiciously and fairly um our people have always been a people of order i think there's a hollywood
00:12:39.760 image of of these anarchist vikings and that's that's not what uh european paganism was ever
00:12:45.600 about it was about making order from chaos so doing what we can in a reasonable way within
00:12:51.680 our power to ensure that people are treated fairly people are out of fair standards that
00:12:56.800 laws and rules are respected and uh and people abide by those and aren't lawless
00:13:02.560 Now, you also mentioned in this point that it's incumbent upon you to work for a better
00:13:10.960 tomorrow, a brighter future for your children. Given how really disordered
00:13:22.320 modern society is, how does that work out in practical terms for members of your faith?
00:13:30.480 there's kind of two different avenues on that also within this community principle is the idea of
00:13:35.760 being good neighbors and being helpful worthwhile members that are doing something to make your
00:13:40.000 community better we've tried very hard at all three of our hofs so far to be involved in food
00:13:45.600 distribution and other charity in the communities that we're in because it's very hard to access 1.00
00:13:51.760 these big you know you mentioned all the macro problems out there of the disordered society 0.99
00:13:57.200 but if we're giving out some food we make somebody's day a little bit better we make 1.00
00:14:02.000 somebody's family a little bit better we can start there and work from it um internally with
00:14:08.400 all of the problems out there in society and all of the disorder we have the opera there's so much
00:14:13.200 out there that can be very daunting to to face and to realize and we don't have control over
00:14:18.960 at least not in a direct way but we do have control over is our brothers and sisters in
00:14:23.680 in the AstroFolk Assembly.
00:14:25.560 And by pooling our resources
00:14:27.000 and focusing on the things that we can do
00:14:30.260 and not all the things that we can't,
00:14:32.500 we're able to accomplish a lot of things.
00:14:34.640 In 2020, when everyone was hunkered down
00:14:37.160 and a lot of people didn't get to go
00:14:40.180 and practice their faith
00:14:41.740 because of the reaction to the COVID thing,
00:14:45.640 we had our best year ever.
00:14:47.020 We acquired two new temples to our gods.
00:14:49.400 We had our largest gathering ever.
00:14:51.620 And we're able to do that
00:14:52.600 because we work together as a community.
00:14:54.280 We built that future within the husk
00:14:56.960 of the things that are decaying around us.
00:15:00.140 You mentioned doing things as simple
00:15:03.620 as giving someone food, et cetera.
00:15:05.700 Is there a program within the assembly
00:15:08.960 whereby you maybe have a storehouse,
00:15:12.840 something like that,
00:15:13.860 in case of emergencies for members of the faith?
00:15:17.120 We do.
00:15:18.220 So we've got a couple of things.
00:15:19.440 Having actual physical locations,
00:15:22.020 which we've only had for a little bit over six years now allows us to do that on site so we can
00:15:28.020 store some supplies certainly we monthly do uh food giveaways to members of the community
00:15:35.300 but we also have food for members of our community that you know find themselves on hard times the
00:15:40.500 other thing we have is the uh folk services program within the afa and if you're a member of
00:15:46.500 the afa family if you're a member or you you know your family needs help and you know natural
00:15:51.620 disaster happens you lose your job or something comes that way we've got a lot of very generous
00:15:56.580 people that have donated of themselves to where we've got a fund to to help those families make
00:16:01.380 it through you know we can't necessarily buy them a new house or whatever but we can put them up for
00:16:05.940 a few nights we can make sure their their kids have a meal we can we can do what we can to take
00:16:10.900 care of them right right meet the immediate needs yeah it's yeah i think matthew to be quite honest
00:16:17.780 i think a lot of people and let me be specific i think a lot of christians are probably surprised
00:16:24.660 by that because uh they they tend not to think of of uh other faiths doing such things you know
00:16:33.860 outside of the uh avrahamic faith well you know i think that's probably true and i'm glad you've
00:16:40.260 given me an opportunity today to to shed some light on it i think you know whenever people
00:16:44.660 don't know nature abhors a vacuum and if you don't know something you can't help but make assumptions
00:16:50.340 so i'm i'm glad for that you know one of the really important things about ossiture as opposed
00:16:56.180 to some other faiths is it's very much based around doing and accomplishing we part of our
00:17:03.460 relationship with our gods and part of what we talked about about honor earlier was we want our
00:17:09.060 gods to be proud of us and they're proud of us through what we do what we accomplish not what
00:17:14.260 we think not what we would like not through faith per se but through action and through our deeds
00:17:20.900 so it's really important for us to do good deeds and to earn reputation through action
00:17:27.220 okay the the next one is the ancestry principle
00:17:30.820 so it's fundamental to our relationship with i guess in the broadest sense we practice
00:17:43.780 ancestor worship and that leads eventually to our ultimate ancestors which are the gods themselves
00:17:51.060 so respecting our roots respecting who we are where we come from and the things that have gone
00:17:57.780 into making that happen all of the countless lives that have been lived to secure a future for us
00:18:07.380 if you know our grandparents hadn't had made it through the great depression we wouldn't be here
00:18:12.500 if their parents hadn't made it through any of the famines of that time we wouldn't be here if
00:18:17.620 people hadn't fought and worked and built for us to have what we have we wouldn't be here so taking
00:18:23.380 appreciating that and appreciating that common heritage and celebrating it and keeping it
00:18:29.300 alive and vibrant is very important to us yeah yeah i would agree with you 100 um anything good
00:18:36.500 that we possess today is the result of the blood sweat and tears of our ancestors and i think to
00:18:44.500 squander that is an insult um to our to our ancestors to our heritage um it's one of the most
00:18:57.220 i think disgusting things in post-modern culture is that there is no respect for our ancestors 0.91
00:19:06.420 And again, I think unfortunately Christianity has gone way too far and I guess the best
00:19:20.780 way to put it is an almost Gnostic dualist approach to the world such that it has rejected 0.69
00:19:32.880 at least on practical terms, the same kind of honored ancestors that you're talking about?
00:19:39.600 Well, something else that I think is important to mention during this and while we're here is
00:19:44.720 often, even in Ausitru, we're very comfortable when someone dies or thinking about, you know,
00:19:50.160 generations past, putting up a picture, lighting a candle, lighting some incense and honoring and
00:19:55.440 celebrating our ancestors. Yet many of us have grandparents that are still alive that we won't
00:20:01.840 call or make any attempt to to have a successful relationship with that's really unfortunate i
00:20:08.400 think respecting your elders especially those that are kin to you is foundational if you're
00:20:15.920 going to honor your ancestors so i wish people had more respect for their elders in this day and age
00:20:20.000 as well yeah i would agree with 100 i mean how many people shuttle their parents off to
00:20:25.760 elder care facilities because they don't want to be burdened. I think it's sad. I grew up in a home
00:20:32.980 with my great-grandmother who was bedridden, my grandmother, my great-uncle. I mean,
00:20:38.800 there were generations of us in the same home, and nobody was ever shuttled off to an elder
00:20:45.660 care facility. The only time I remember my great-grandmother ever leaving the house was
00:20:51.600 when she had a doctor's appointment other than that you know she was cared
00:20:57.360 for by the family and I think that's been lost and it's it's unfortunate so
00:21:06.360 again I have to agree with the ancestry principle on that does does the folk
00:21:14.700 assembly have plans perhaps in the future of of maybe uh if need arises having something like that
00:21:22.940 to to make sure that the elderly are cared for who maybe don't have family i think plans may
00:21:29.660 be unfairly ambitious but dreams absolutely that's something that i know personally i've
00:21:34.060 talked about for years with people we'd love to have a spot one day where the elders avows are
00:21:40.940 true because a lot of time it's sad you'll find these elderly that have spent their life building
00:21:46.140 something often spent their life building the outstreet folk assembly that we have and they'll
00:21:49.980 find themselves in their later years without family impoverished and not with a lot to take
00:21:55.500 care of them we do the best we can but i'd love to have a place where those people could go to
00:21:59.980 and be cared for in you know in their golden years and i'd really love to see that happen
00:22:05.180 Yeah, yeah. I think it would be a good thing because they are an important resource. Because it is true that with age comes wisdom. When I was 20, I probably didn't believe that.
00:22:19.000 But many, many years later in my 50s, I do recognize the wisdom of my great uncle, for example, who I, when I was a teenager, I thought he was just a grumpy old guy.
00:22:36.040 Now I look back and, yeah, he had some grumpy tendencies, but he also had a lot of wisdom to share as well.
00:22:43.960 So, yeah, I hope you can do something like that.
00:22:48.280 uh i think it would be beneficial um when when we come back because we're going to take a break
00:22:56.680 here when we come back we're going to hit a principle that i think is going to really hit home
00:23:02.280 regarding some of the modern issues as well specifically abortion so we'll be back with
00:23:09.000 Nancy Flava, perfect.
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00:29:00.280 Patreon. So let's get back into the discussion here. Matthew, the next point I think is one of
00:29:11.840 the most important, in my mind anyway, and that is the family principle. So there's a lot packed
00:29:21.060 into this one or certainly the implications of it uh reach into a lot of different aspects of things
00:29:27.140 now this one if you read the website we make a point of special of specifying the white family
00:29:32.340 and we've taken some heat for that and it wasn't to be provocative it was to address some clarity
00:29:38.580 um i think that we've seen a forced i think we've noticed a lot in advertisement i'd say last year
00:29:48.100 to two years but we've seen it for a lot longer than that that you can't have a healthy white 0.80
00:29:54.740 family displayed on a commercial anymore it's always an interracial family or a homosexual
00:30:02.340 relationship and it's not by happenstance it's being pushed on us so we really want to take a 0.76
00:30:10.500 stand against that being forced on us and that future being forced on our children
00:30:15.220 um and this this goes through a lot of things those that that haven't read it it talks about
00:30:21.080 how the family principle we want to have kids and grandkids that grow up and you know are
00:30:27.080 recognizable to us and that make more of us in the future so that we can be their ancestors
00:30:32.900 all these principles kind of go together but this one very specifically we want to foster
00:30:39.240 healthy families and we've watched in our society that really change we've watched a lot of people
00:30:48.040 through whatever propaganda choose not to have families until later than later in life and by
00:30:54.600 the time they decide to do that it's too late for a lot of folks so we have a lot less children um
00:31:01.320 you mentioned earlier before the break there is you know there was a time where abortion was
00:31:07.400 universally a bad thing and you had a camp of people that said never and you had a camp of
00:31:12.760 people that said under some really bad circumstances it's the lesser of two evils
00:31:18.840 now we have people openly when new york passed their abortion law last year we had people openly
00:31:24.600 in the streets celebrating infanticide and that shocked me to my core i knew things were bad but
00:31:33.160 that was very shocking to me i tell you matthew what shocked me is i read an article
00:31:39.400 by an abortion advocate who was literally advocating the
00:31:46.040 they called it abortion but it's the murder of children up to the age of seven
00:31:53.000 uh i i was stunned that somebody could publish this sort of genocidal insanity and be lauded for
00:32:07.000 it as this woman was it just stuns me and what you say about the the the progressive attack
00:32:18.040 on the white community i think it's true i i don't think you know you don't have to be
00:32:24.600 uh a part of the alt-right or uh you know they love to toss out the word
00:32:31.240 nazi you don't have to be any of these things to to recognize that there is a lot of propaganda
00:32:39.160 out there that is very much anti-white um you know this uh critical race theory is one of the most
00:32:47.880 disgusting things i've ever seen in my life there is nothing redeemable in uh in critical race theory 0.96
00:32:59.240 as far as white people are concerned they they blame white people for everything white people 0.95
00:33:05.880 cannot be good people uh it is it is a genocidal uh eugenics based hate theory and and somebody 0.88
00:33:18.040 like you who steps up and says well you know we don't hate you but we don't hate ourselves either 0.59
00:33:25.080 uh for some reason you're you're suddenly shouted down as oh look it's a neo-nazi and i think it's 0.54
00:33:31.400 just sickening well it is sickening and one of the results of it i mean all of the things on
00:33:37.080 the face of it that are obviously bad but the suicide rates have increased dramatically amongst
00:33:43.400 our young people and imagine you're you're a young white boy or girl in school and you're
00:33:48.920 being taught from the earliest ages in public school that everything bad in this world is your
00:33:55.960 fault and you have to take special classes on self-loathing to get out of school that are
00:34:02.980 required i can't even imagine what that does you know we've understood as a society for decades
00:34:09.820 now that children's self-esteem is so important when they start life and with their outlook on
00:34:14.500 life we used to tell our kids they could be anything they wanted to be when they grew up 0.93
00:34:18.020 and now we say that unless you're white and that's a horrible thing to start kids with 0.94
00:34:24.560 Absolutely. Absolutely. I know of two cases right now where two boys, one was in middle school, one high school, because of critical race theory being taught in his classroom. 0.99
00:34:39.100 Both of those boys committed suicide.
00:34:42.620 It was directly linked to what they were being told.
00:34:45.880 They could not handle the guilt.
00:34:48.280 they had been pushed into self-hatred 0.98
00:34:53.320 and any Christian who would defend that 0.92
00:34:56.960 is out of their minds as well
00:34:58.440 self-hatred in my opinion
00:35:00.400 in Christian theology would be a sin
00:35:04.880 and I don't know what word you would use for it 1.00
00:35:09.860 but I'm sure it's just as grave
00:35:12.420 so I don't have any problem at all
00:35:16.720 with the family principle and i can't see how any thinking person would there's nothing negative in
00:35:22.880 it there's nothing there that says uh oh and by the way we hate fill in the blank with whatever
00:35:29.760 ethnic group you want that's not there and i think it's unfair to uh claim that that is the position
00:35:37.760 of our true folk assembly just so i can get that out there well thank you for that first and i think
00:35:43.200 you hit on something really important i don't think any thinking person does think it's bad
00:35:47.280 i think people don't think people react and when you've taught them these trigger words that you
00:35:52.720 should react to there's a knee-jerk response and i think a lot of people react and anybody
00:35:58.720 who actually read it slowly to themselves would have a hard time finding a problem with it
00:36:04.560 and the next principle is the organization principle before you answer you know you go
00:36:09.840 into that um we have a question from the chat room from it looks like george joseph um where
00:36:19.520 would you like to see the afa a year from now matt considering we've come so far in such an
00:36:24.400 expedited time i'm curious what your ambitions are uh within the next year i would like to see
00:36:32.080 us have our fourth half we're actually working on that very hard right now and i think that's
00:36:36.480 a very doable thing in the next year um i want to see us beef up our membership in certain places
00:36:42.640 certainly internationally uh things with covid have made it harder for our people to get together
00:36:47.040 in other countries we think we have it bad here in the united states but our members in south
00:36:51.360 africa and in australia and new zealand have had it much harder as far as being able to organize
00:36:56.080 and get together so i'd like to really shore up our international afa kindreds and communities
00:37:02.560 um i'd like to do more shows like this i've been getting a number of interview requests lately and
00:37:09.960 i'd like to get it out there these are excellent opportunities to to put a face on who we are what
00:37:15.000 we do and and what we actually believe in so i'd like to see that like i said i'd like to see that
00:37:20.080 next off come in and uh we're also working on an afa homeschool program i'd like to see at least
00:37:27.580 a couple of years of early childhood homeschooling
00:37:31.180 lockdown. Right now we've got a pretty good situation for kindergarten
00:37:35.260 but we're kind of working our way up through the grades, something that works in
00:37:39.560 all states in the United States. It's hard to make it compliant. Other places
00:37:43.560 don't even allow homeschool some places. But we want to have that
00:37:47.720 squared away. Yeah, I think
00:37:51.620 those are the big ones we're working on right now. Yeah, homeschooling is
00:37:54.960 I mean, that's just, I think, considering where we are today, culturally, I think that's a must.
00:38:04.320 I don't even think that should be considered optional anymore.
00:38:09.600 I think it's an absolute must because otherwise your kids are being propagandized with self-hate, with leftist neo-Marxist propaganda. 0.82
00:38:20.120 I mean, it's a disgusting, disgusting state of affairs. 0.89
00:38:22.920 It hurts to say that. 0.58
00:38:24.340 my mom was a school teacher her entire life she taught first grade mostly occasionally a
00:38:29.460 kindergarten class or a second grade but mostly first grade she loved being a teacher and now 0.88
00:38:35.380 there's there's no scenario where i can imagine putting my daughter into a into a public school
00:38:41.220 um and i don't want to shame anybody that that's not an economic reality for
00:38:45.620 but you know i encourage anybody no matter what your faith is if there is a way to homeschool
00:38:50.660 your children they are precious please do that if you can absolutely get them out of public schools
00:38:58.420 okay that's this organization principle can you explain a little bit about that uh yeah we get
00:39:03.380 stuff done when we work together um it's very easy to get overcome with individualism and be
00:39:09.700 hard-headed and i don't need to listen to nobody it's a very common attitude in the west today
00:39:15.860 but it makes us weak and it makes us ineffectual when we work together as a team when we cooperate
00:39:21.960 when we respect hierarchy we can actually make accomplishments and we've certainly seen that in
00:39:27.120 the afa the more unified we've been in showing support and respect to our leaders and working
00:39:34.100 together even if you know if our people love to be fractious so if you've got if we're in 95%
00:39:40.940 agreement but we got five things you know five percent we disagree on we'll focus on that instead
00:39:45.660 of the 95 commonality that we can build really beautiful and effective things on so working
00:39:53.180 together to accomplish i'd say is the core of that principle yeah i i like that i wrote an article on
00:39:59.900 that a few years back and in it i actually explained why the rugged individualism has
00:40:09.500 become a problem. And that without community, we're less effective. And spiritually speaking,
00:40:21.580 our experience of the world and our spiritual experience, it's all shared. And we are closer to
00:40:33.980 to God, the divine, I guess you would say the Aesir, as a community than individually,
00:40:44.220 I think.
00:40:45.220 Is that close to what you would say?
00:40:48.420 Absolutely.
00:40:50.460 And I think we see this in the West in general, this individualism, but I don't, you know,
00:40:57.080 I'm not going to be so presumptuous to say that the gods don't listen when you approach
00:41:00.700 them individually but i can only imagine they would listen so much more when a group of 50 of
00:41:06.780 us or 100 of us are standing together united as a family worshiping the gods um and i really
00:41:13.740 believe that when we engage in worship as a community it's so much more powerful something
00:41:18.940 happens in a spiritual context in a sacred place when you're you're worth more than the sum of
00:41:25.820 your parts it's more than all of those individuals standing together that togetherness amplifies
00:41:32.060 amplifies that connection it amplifies what you're doing yeah i mean if if we believe that the family
00:41:37.340 is of divine origin and i do then that that extended family is also of divine origin and
00:41:45.420 it meets its created end uh when it is it is uh it gathers together as a community and works
00:41:52.780 together as a community. That's just my thinking. Okay, the next point is the personal excellence
00:41:59.680 principle. So kind of what we've been saying all along, but this makes it real specific. We want
00:42:06.320 to achieve. We want to do more. We want to be more. Our community is only stronger and better
00:42:11.600 when it's made up of better people. The better I am, the more capable, the stronger, faster,
00:42:17.800 smarter wiser wealthier i am the better i can help the guy next to me get there the better we can help
00:42:25.480 each other overcome if we're all doing our best to tomorrow be a little bit better than we are today
00:42:32.520 you know i was looking at this principle here and you you mentioned um several pursuits knowledge
00:42:39.720 wealth there's one that really stuck out to me the practice of skill
00:42:45.800 um and that one stuck out to me because of this you know the pursuit of knowledge
00:42:51.080 i'm certainly not going to say we shouldn't i'm college educated myself but our colleges are
00:42:58.360 are really they are as well um propaganda arms of of the leftist agenda and um so we have to
00:43:09.000 be careful with that um but the practice of skill i've often thought it would be a good thing if we
00:43:17.480 had like trade guilds you know of the past where people could learn this trade uh whether it be
00:43:25.960 metal work uh you know what have you and they they give a certain number of years to learning
00:43:32.840 the trade and then they could go on and and and do it on their own do you think there's something
00:43:38.520 like that in the future for the assembly well i'd love to see that and one of our problems right now
00:43:44.360 is proximity just having enough people who share a common skill in a common location to make more
00:43:50.920 of that feasible but we already see our people working together one thing that i've seen a lot
00:43:56.040 lately just kind of at random is folks that weld we have welders and metal workers within the afa
00:44:01.960 that communicate together that talk about training programs together that pool their resources and
00:44:07.480 And the more we have skilled people, the more we can, you know, we're in a cancel culture to where if you practice wrong think, employment can become more difficult.
00:44:16.860 Well, when you have a marketable skill like this, you are way more employable, and when
00:44:21.780 we pool our resources with those skills, or even the most rudimentary form of the kind
00:44:27.400 of guild you're speaking of, that means that we can hire our own.
00:44:32.040 We can hire people who, you know, share our values to do those things.
00:44:38.280 There's never a point where carpenters or plumbers or electricians are not wanted and
00:44:42.740 not valuable.
00:44:43.740 They're of supreme value in our society.
00:44:46.100 with health health care workers for that matter nursing you'll have a job anywhere you want to go
00:44:49.700 if you've got uh if you've got the skill of nursing yeah and i think i think if uh
00:44:57.140 if things keep progressing the way they are um people are going to have to form self-sufficient
00:45:04.820 communities um i i think we may be getting to that point now and those kinds of skills
00:45:11.780 are going to be of of vast importance um so we've only got uh probably six seven minutes left in the
00:45:21.860 show and we've got three more points here i want to get through honor your oath principle um that
00:45:28.580 one seems pretty straightforward uh don't take your don't enter into an oath lightly i mean it
00:45:34.980 should be pretty straightforward but unfortunately today people are not men of honor so their oath
00:45:41.300 usually means a little what should be i'll say this make less commitments and hold to the
00:45:46.180 commitments that you make dearly be a man of your word and that's you know it's self-explanatory
00:45:52.260 other than that yeah yeah uh the warrior principle so this one often is easy to misinterpret and
00:46:00.900 you know this isn't a call to illegality or any kind of action that way what it is
00:46:06.820 well no because i've had interviewers try to pin me on that not at all it's a call to use your
00:46:12.820 resources to the best of your ability to stand up for yourself and stand up for the things you
00:46:17.700 believe in rather than to roll over and go with the tide of group think that goes on in the world
00:46:24.180 today to stand up to use your voice to use the legal system if you need to to use your funds
00:46:30.180 to use your wits to stand up and be willing to fight for yourself um we've been told to lay
00:46:36.340 down and be completely passive and uh i think the quit you know the best way to get people to stop
00:46:42.340 walking over you is stand up for yourself when you stand up to bullies very often that corrects
00:46:48.900 that problem so when it's within our power and within our skills to stand up and advocate for
00:46:53.620 ourselves and our interests we should do that unabashedly yeah you know when i read the warrior
00:46:59.620 principle i'm a martial artist of almost 40 years so i didn't think violence at all because
00:47:06.340 In my training of that almost 40 years in a Japanese martial art,
00:47:13.620 guardianship never equaled violence, never equaled illegality.
00:47:21.020 It was equated with honor, respect, truthfulness, justice.
00:47:26.720 And that's pretty much what you're saying.
00:47:30.320 Absolutely.
00:47:30.980 And that's where I come from too on it.
00:47:32.740 I'm a practitioner of jiu-jitsu myself.
00:47:35.600 got my got my brown belt i'm excited i just got a stripe taken off of that so
00:47:40.320 yeah we come from a similar mindset on that congratulations by the way thank you i i uh
00:47:46.480 i own a fifth don in a kobudo system so nice yeah yeah i've been at it a long time
00:47:53.520 um all right the last one we've got about five minutes the life is good principle
00:47:58.800 all right so this sums it up really nicely it's a fundamental difference between
00:48:03.160 also true and a lot of eastern faiths and a lot of depending on your interpretation of abrahamic
00:48:08.920 faiths the focus of also true isn't the next world and it isn't that this world is a world
00:48:15.320 of suffering or a world of badness this world's good this world's beautiful it's filled with
00:48:21.560 amazing things and amazing opportunities we want to make the best of our life in this world
00:48:27.640 getting the most out of it doing the most with our facility with what we have building the most
00:48:34.600 fame and reputation and the best future we can for our children but we want to celebrate and enjoy
00:48:41.080 the art of living a good life now we want a good life in the future after this too of course
00:48:47.160 but we're not living for that we're living to do the best with the time we find ourselves in
00:48:52.440 Yeah, I think that's certainly a noble pursuit. I don't see anything wrong with that, though. You're right. Some of those in Abrahamic faith, Christianity, since I understand it most, there does tend to be a rejection of the good that is in this world because they, and it's inadvertent because they reject the negative that's in this world, and that's a shame.
00:49:22.440 Matthew, is there anything else that you would like to tell our listeners that we haven't covered?
00:49:27.140 We've got about three minutes left.
00:49:29.800 You know, if this is something that's remotely interested to you,
00:49:33.920 and you find yourself of this background, of European background,
00:49:38.060 looking into the AstroFolk Assembly, looking into AstroTru in general,
00:49:41.320 I'd really encourage you guys to do it.
00:49:42.920 It's something that so many of our people describe as coming home,
00:49:46.820 because it's not embracing a new way of looking at the world.
00:49:49.840 it's re-embracing the way of looking at the world that's very natural to who you are and to where
00:49:56.100 you come from so given that a fair shake and i'd say the easiest step to do that is by making that
00:50:03.800 connection with your ancestors and the connection with the gods can come after that but the
00:50:08.560 connection with your ancestors who you know for a fact lived and died that you would be here
00:50:13.240 that's a really good place to start
00:50:15.840 and if listeners are interested
00:50:18.840 you can go to runestone.org
00:50:21.160 and that is the website of the
00:50:23.880 Alshatru Folk Assembly
00:50:25.180 you'll find this statement of ethics there
00:50:28.140 you'll find a whole lot of information there
00:50:29.960 that I think will be educational
00:50:32.960 helpful for you to understand
00:50:34.780 the Alshatru faith
00:50:37.580 and Matthew I really appreciate you
00:50:40.240 coming on again tonight
00:50:41.300 i hope we've uh served to dispel some of the misunderstandings out there and i i hope you've
00:50:48.980 you felt welcome and uh and well represented you guys are fantastic i love doing these shows with
00:50:56.340 you and and it's been an honor to be here well it's an honor to talk with you and as i told you
00:51:01.060 during the break uh you know if if you ever want to come on the show there's something that you
00:51:05.540 would like to address something you would like to talk about that we haven't discussed or we didn't
00:51:12.660 discuss deeply enough for your satisfaction then let me know and i'll get you on that schedule
00:51:18.260 sounds great you guys have a good night you too matthew thanks for being here
00:51:22.660 and for us here at expedition truth that's it god bless good night
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