00:01:47.660Thank you for everybody that has taken the time this evening.
00:01:50.560uh since last i talked to you um i had a really really nice interview with reverend ashcraft at
00:02:02.740expedition truth and if you guys haven't checked that out please stop by our youtube um and take
00:02:10.520a look it was uh the second time he's had me on his program and both times they've been amazing
00:02:18.080They've been great hosts, wonderful questions.
00:02:23.060It's really nice to do an interview where we're talking about House of True and about our faith instead of just the mundane political issues that reporters and things like to talk to me about.
00:02:33.680So it was really nice to do, and I really appreciate them having me on.
00:02:37.400Also, the folks at Full House had me on their podcast since last we spoke, I believe.
00:02:43.820And that was really nice, too. Those guys were great. And we had a lot of interest from that. So that's that was a really good opportunity that we're appreciative that we had.
00:02:54.100And like I say, both of those are on our YouTube channel.
00:03:04.860So I'm thinking of where to start tonight. There's been a couple of questions that we've been getting over the last month.
00:03:11.500And I appreciate it. If you guys have ideas for questions that you'd like to hear me address on the podcast or not podcast, I'm sorry, on my live discussions each month, please feel free to email those to me.
00:03:25.020I will do my best to remember them. The closer to the show, the better chance you have of me remembering them when the show comes around.
00:03:31.800um but we have a have a couple that are interesting first we've we're very proud of our
00:03:39.360food charities that we do at each of our hops we've had a lot of questions about those lately
00:03:43.780one of the big questions was where does that food come from how do we get the food where does you
00:03:50.280know money and supply come for the for the food that we're able to give out and that's a little
00:03:55.760bit different in each of the cases, but that's all donated food that various businesses and
00:04:02.460I think it all comes from various businesses. But like out in California, for example,
00:04:09.920there's an interfaith food distribution place that is kind of a warehouse that services
00:04:15.120different houses of worship that want to do food charity. And they're very, they've been great
00:04:21.620working with us. They're very happy to work with us. Odinskopf is in an area that's not very well
00:04:26.300served by the current food charities, so we're able to really make an impact in that community
00:04:31.520and really help the folks out. But like I say, in Thorshof and Baldershof, those come from
00:04:38.960different local grocery businesses, and people have been really generous businesses in the
00:04:47.260community helping us out with donating that food. But that is all donated by these businesses and
00:04:52.080we certainly appreciate them working with us and helping us to make sure that hungry folks get to
00:04:56.960eat. I'm sorry guys, I keep looking over the side. I want to make sure I'm not missing any questions
00:05:10.180or anything anybody's asking over there. Another question I got, I believe I got just this morning
00:05:16.180that somebody wanted me to address. They were really distressed about a lot of the political
00:05:21.600things we see in the world today. And it got him thinking about evil. And he wanted me to speak a
00:05:28.380little bit about the concept of evil within Alcetru and what evil means to us. And
00:05:37.400i think there is a misunderstanding out there that also true doesn't have a concept of evil
00:05:46.560because we tend to not frame things in terms of good and evil in the same way that some other
00:05:53.280faiths do in australia we very often frame it in terms of order and chaos and that duality
00:06:00.140Um, I would say that succinctly evil is the intentional destruction of the right order
00:06:14.580or the order that's been ordained by our gods.
00:06:17.560Um, when forces of chaos and people who are beholden to that lifestyle and that ideology
00:06:25.620deliberately do things to hurt the structure and order of how the world should be, of how
00:06:34.300politics should be, of how the family should be, of how these institutions should be. The people
00:06:42.480that are intentionally trying to destroy those and bring those down, that's kind of our definition
00:06:47.200of evil. And we also, along with order and chaos, we have a duality between honor and dishonor and
00:06:56.360acting nobly and acting ignobly. And if you habitually act ignobly or without honor, I think
00:07:04.140that borders on the evil as well. So much of what we do is based on trust and relationships. And
00:07:11.920you're a person who is defined by the breaking of trust or destroying of relationships by not
00:07:19.440honoring your word by not honoring commitments then that that also is is certainly in the realm
00:07:26.320of evil if that's you know you're defining characteristic but i think that's that's our
00:07:30.960best concept of of evil is those that are intentionally out to destroy to break down
00:07:39.600good things and things ordered the way that they should be
00:07:50.560appreciate that mary thank you um i kind of like to do this sometimes i like to grow my beard from
00:07:57.600equinox to equinox so yeah i just started on a while i don't have a lot to show for it yet
00:08:03.600but uh you know we'll trim it up when it starts getting getting a little bit too unruly but
00:08:07.520But, yeah, probably going to have a beard till the springtime.
00:08:12.000That's always something enjoyable to do.
00:08:14.060I can keep track of watching the gray come in.
00:08:20.020So something to point out, our members also personally have donated both money and food items with the specific intent of giving them away at our food shelves.
00:08:29.360Brandy pointed that out to me, and I think that's important.
00:08:32.080so all of the uh point being the food that's supplied at the food shelves doesn't come out
00:08:40.960of membership dues it comes out of directed donations from individuals and from uh from
00:08:47.280businesses in the community and most often the bulk of it is from businesses in the community
00:08:52.000that want to want to support what we're doing and help us out and we're really thankful for that
00:09:01.440All right. I hope you guys all hear that on the side. Mary admonishes menfolk out there.
00:09:16.800You're supposed to have beards. So that's the voice of one of our ladies on it, guys.0.62
00:18:21.660I'm going to make some chai white Russians and some cream cheese swirl pumpkin bread.
00:18:29.120And it's going to be delicious and we'll see what everybody else brings.
00:18:31.540But this is a good excuse to have people over and to share a meal and to raise a horn.
00:18:36.500And those are simple stuff you can do as a family that's very accessible to any AFA member.
00:18:41.320But the more we do that, the more we, the more we honor, the more we celebrate, the more we posthumously raise these people's fame beyond the veil.
00:18:53.360And I have to believe they look on and appreciate, you know, so many years after they've passed, many of them, that we're still celebrating them and doing them honor.
00:19:12.280um as a christian looking into ausitru what is a good place to start and or study materials
00:19:29.080as far as study materials go i'm certainly a good
00:19:34.200i think a good primer on ausitru and just
00:19:36.680just why we do what we do and how we got here is Stephen McNallan, our founder's book,
00:19:43.220Ausatruh and Native European Spirituality. I think that will help a lot with you get kind
00:19:48.620of a basic understanding of modern Ausatruh and why and how. Certainly, I think that after that,
00:19:57.840you want to read The Culture of the Teutons by Wilhelm Groenbeck. And you'd like to read
00:20:03.560the prose edda and the poetic edda. And I think that as a Christian, you need to go into it under
00:20:10.780the understanding that it's not like a Bible. Every word of our myths are not divinely inspired
00:20:17.060by our gods. They are not meant to be literal truth. They're meant to explain truth to us in
00:20:25.560a way that our ancestors understood and made a picture that they were able to wrap their minds
00:20:31.020around and to ponder on. So there's so much truth in them, but don't read them as if they're literal
00:20:36.260truths because that's not how myth is intended. So I think that's important to reflect on those
00:20:42.000stories. What I think is more immediately important to somebody that wants to check it out
00:20:49.740is to see what else your truth does, how it's practiced. I think the best things I can suggest
00:20:56.080to do that or going to www.runestone.org, checking out our old issues of the Rune Stone.
00:21:04.560You can see, you know, it's kind of our monthly newsletter that shows what people are doing and
00:21:09.040how they're getting together and how they're honoring our gods. Also looking at our YouTube
00:21:13.460videos, not just me yapping on here, but we have, after each of our major national events,
00:21:19.580We've been doing these like video slideshows of what goes on there.
00:21:25.160I think watching those and seeing what it's really like will give you a lot of context to look at our high mythology and familiarize yourself with.
00:21:40.020So that's what I would suggest is a good place to start.
00:21:42.220as far as worship goes coming from a christian background one thing that's always a really good
00:21:49.420entry into practicing also true fundamentally also true is ancestor worship and we see our gods as
00:21:55.340our most ancient ancestors so honoring your immediate ancestors that you knew that have
00:22:02.060passed your grandparents your great-grandparents and working on that connection will help bring
00:22:07.740you closer to a relationship with our gods
00:22:32.220daughter of the west that is a really good idea as far as0.75
00:22:35.500stuff people can do for personal advancement she advised over in the in the side over there
00:22:40.540to always sit down and have a look at yourself and figure out the one thing or or a thing that
00:22:46.780is holding you back or preventing you from having what you want one thing that i learned out of the
00:22:52.780nine doors of midgard which is a foundational document for the rune guild but whether you
00:22:59.020want to be involved in that or not it's got a really good techniques in it one of the ones that
00:23:04.540really stuck with me was they want you to to sit down over the course of a few nights and be
00:23:09.660brutally honest with yourself make a list of your strengths make a list of your weaknesses
00:23:15.580don't show them to anybody else and just be scathingly honest and be unashamed and unabashed
00:23:22.460of singing your praises but be brutal on the things that you know you need to fix about yourself
00:23:28.140keep that list and consult it i'd say consult that list you know every month and see if you
00:23:33.740You can take things off the bad list or add things to the good list.
00:23:38.280That really put a lot of stuff in perspective for me, and it's something I find myself still
00:23:42.000going back to that list that I made so many years ago and seeing how I'm developing on
00:23:47.640that and where I'm coming and if I'm making the progress that I want.
00:23:52.420That's a really good idea that I learned, and you spurred that on the side of the West.
00:24:00.740sorry guys I don't I wish I had some cool like background music for you while I'm reading over
00:24:17.540here on the side I know dead air is not not cool but I do got to be able to read the read the
00:24:23.140questions um okay one of our folk builders cody reynard asks if i could explain about
00:24:31.940the blessings of the meals and what is said to bless the meal
00:24:38.180so different people do it different ways
00:24:41.940meal blessing is it's saying grace before a meal it's you know we could act like it's
00:24:47.620something special or different, but I think that any reverent people, when they get sustenance,
00:24:56.860offer thanks to their deities that they believe in. Certainly our ancestors would do that. They
00:25:04.460would very often do it with a sign of a hammer, either with a ritual hammer or in a modern
00:25:11.440context. I believe this was started in the late 1970s or the early 1980s. And I think it was
00:25:19.780innovated by Edred Thorson, Dr. Stephen Flowers, Edred Thorson being his pen name.
00:25:26.200And he'll make the sign of the hammer. And what we like to do, what Steve McNowan has always done,
00:25:31.460and I kind of start my blessings as, is in the sign of the hammer and the holy names of Odin,
00:25:36.500balder fray and thor may this food be blessed
00:25:41.220may these folk that share this food be blessed and then if we're in uh in one of our hafs i ask
00:25:50.120that that sacred place be blessed um oftentimes if we're doing it on a specific occasion i'll say
00:25:57.280a word about the occasion and uh and that's it it can be that simple and at the end hail the gods
00:26:05.480or hail whichever God you're thanking. The point is to take a moment of reverence with you and your
00:26:12.260family or whoever's sharing your meal with you, to acknowledge your blessings, to acknowledge all
00:26:17.360the good things that you've, you know, that you have, and to give thanks to our gods for being
00:26:23.380there for you, for their support and for their blessings. Our gods tend to help us in a lot of
00:26:28.960ways that are so subtle that sometimes we don't stop and give thanks. And being pious and reverent
00:26:34.880enough to take a moment to acknowledge that and give thanks really helps center your life and
00:26:41.120focus you on spirituality rather than on the mundane. And fundamentally in our faith, sharing
00:26:46.860food with one another is one of our most ancient and our most special rituals. We do that at every
00:26:53.360AFA event. You do that every day with your family. Sharing food around your table with one another
00:26:59.020is a sacred act in and of itself, and starting it by a meal blessing puts that in a sacred context.
00:27:29.020got a question on the side any militant practices can you give me more about what you're asking i'd
00:27:48.060like to answer your question but i'm not sure exactly what you're asking me so if you could
00:27:51.740could clarify that I'll do my best. Okay, one of our folk builders, Tim Dumas is asking if there's
00:28:10.680anything I want to say to the folk that are considering joining the AFA that are but are
00:28:15.260hesitant. Yeah, come on home. Don't be hesitant. Give it a shot. Sometimes you've got to take a
00:28:27.600leap of faith and dive in. I appreciate if you're spending your time on the back end, you know,
00:28:32.160thinking about it and contemplating whether it's it's really something for you. But fundamentally,
00:28:37.020if you read our Declaration of Purpose, you read our Statement of Ethics,
00:28:42.000and you agree with those things, give it a try. Come on home, be part of what we're doing.
00:28:49.720And I think you'll be very happy with it once you do. If you want to really see who the AFA is and
00:28:56.360what the AFA is about, I'd suggest looking at our event slide shows on YouTube. Yes, I plug those a
00:29:03.160lot, but I make them myself and I'm really excited and proud of them every time I get home from an
00:29:06.960event. And you'll see our folk, what we look like, what we do. You'll see smiling faces and hugs and
00:29:16.060children and reverence and beauty and all the things that are such a special part of the things
00:29:22.500we do. And I think that that's a really good representation of who we are and what we do.
00:29:27.640So I'd suggest you do that and just give it a shot and see what happens. But we'd love to have
00:29:35.760you when you're ready. And yeah, I would encourage you to take a leap of faith and you'd be surprised
00:29:43.380how well rewarded you are for it. All right. Brandy is asking me with the upcoming Winter
00:29:57.120Nights celebration. For those of you who don't know, our big holiday this month is Winter Nights.
00:30:02.420um i hope that you celebrate it no matter where you are but here in
00:30:08.820it's getting close here in about a week and a half our big winter nights gathering in uh in
00:30:18.920the poconos is going on this will be the 10th year we do that and that's a really special event
00:30:23.600So Brandy asks how we celebrate our desir and why. For those of you who don't know, desir, des translates into a form of priestess.
00:30:45.980And it's a priestess that looks after something because Freya served that function for the Vanir.
00:30:53.540She was known as the Vanadis. But for our families, the women that preserve our our kin group,
00:31:01.080that preserve our families, that look on and take care of their loved ones after death.
00:31:08.060Those are our desir. Those are your personal desir.
00:31:11.440one of the fundamental components to honorable womanhood for our folk has always been a devotion0.99
00:31:21.860and a care for their families for their children for their husbands for for their families making
00:31:29.440sure that their home is cared for that they're raised well that they're fed that they're comforted
00:31:35.400that they have what they need and we are under a sincere belief that they do that after they
00:31:41.020pass beyond the veil as well. The great and celebrated women of your line look on from
00:31:49.080beyond and care for you still. In the fall and the winter, we believe we enter a time
00:31:55.880period where it's a liminal space where the veil between the worlds is thinnest. When
00:32:06.080things slow down and the air gets thin and things contract we're more aware we're closer to the
00:32:14.800spirit world we're closer to the world beyond our ears and our minds and our hearts are opened to
00:32:22.160those who've who've passed on and we're much more receptive and it's we find it's easier at that
00:32:27.120time of year to to interact and to communicate both ways between us and our past loved ones
00:32:34.960and between our past loved ones and us. And the de-seer are a huge part of that. So we do
00:32:41.780de-subloat at winter nights and we speak to our ancestral mothers and we interact with them in a
00:32:56.820very tangible way. I'll say them, and I mentioned this on the Full House interview I did, but
00:33:03.380The most powerful ritual I've ever been a part of was a de-sear bloat. It was officiated by Agithya at the time, Patricia Hall. And the smell, the feel, the tangible presence of my grandmother in that ritual was beyond words that I could describe.
00:33:24.700and i think that's because our dc are especially ones that maybe we've known in life that have
00:33:30.060passed that connection is so strong the further back you go and if you go all the way back to our
00:33:36.940gods they have millions of folk to care for but your grandma only has a few grandchildren
00:33:45.980and that connection is so much more more powerful and more more visceral than some of these other
00:33:52.460connections we have often so take time to to honor your female ancestors this winter nights
00:33:59.340and to uh to thank them and to welcome them into your heart and your home
00:34:15.740um all kind of stuff we got somebody asking what kind of activities go on at winter nights
00:34:20.780winter nights in the poconos a lot of activities it's chilly it's in the you know the hills in
00:34:25.500pennsylvania there um we have bloats we have talks we have assemble um we're gonna be othing
00:34:38.220in some members of leadership in different capacities we're gonna share meals together
00:34:46.060there's activities set up for the kids i know kids are bringing costumes and they've got a
00:34:50.780kind of halloweeny thing they're going to be doing um it's a really really great time with
00:34:56.860your folks at a really beautiful camp we've done it at the same camp every year now for 10 years
00:35:02.780it's a really special place it's where i met my wife mandy
00:35:06.540um a lot of really good memories for us there so i hope that you come out and
00:35:10.860I'm looking forward to seeing you there. Nick, you would not be the only one. I can't go into
00:35:28.760that story about that ritual I was in with my grandma to where I don't tear up a little bit
00:35:34.060too. Winter nights, I'll say this, and I've seen plenty of grown men, myself absolutely included,
00:35:40.020brought to tears by a lot of powerful rituals but i would say that the de-sear bloat at winter nights
00:35:46.180has had the most people just crying like little kids because they were so moved
00:35:52.580so it can be a really really powerful experience
00:36:02.660if you are coming to winter nights please bring warm things warm sleeping bags warm stuff the
00:36:08.740cabins are not heated it's a beautiful camp it's a lovely camp it's a wonderful time but
00:36:13.540do make sure you bring stuff to stay warm what else do we have tonight what else would you guys
00:36:20.100like to speak about i figured i could uh update you guys a little bit on
00:36:31.700big thing we've been focusing a lot of attention on is getting our fourth half new york's off
00:36:38.740And you all have been extremely generous in donating to and trying to support that effort.
00:52:04.200Um, Nate, Noah, he asks if using symbols of our gods under regional names is discouraged on the Hoff grounds or at gatherings.
00:52:19.480That's really never come up first. No, our gods are our gods and celebrating them at our Hoffs or in any of our holy spaces is a great thing to do.
00:52:28.740When you ask the question, it makes me wonder, you know, if there's a specific thing you had in mind.
00:52:33.900But no, if it is legitimately one of the gods of our folk, absolutely, our gods are our gods are welcome.
00:52:41.740What I will say is in in Alcetru, we we worship the gods of order and we turn away from the forces of chaos.
00:52:49.240us. So if it's a malevolent Jotun or if it's Fenrir or if it's Loki, then absolutely not.
00:52:57.240We don't honor those deities or I don't even know if you'd call them deities. We don't honor those
00:53:02.600spiritual personages in any of our holy space. We keep chaos out of what we're doing in that way.
00:53:19.24010th noble virtue, Cody's asking. In the AFA, we like to talk about the 10th noble virtue,
00:53:27.040and that is victory. And a lot of people don't initially conceptualize victory as a virtue,
00:53:35.600but it very much is. To our ancestors, a person's luck, a person's ability to win,
00:53:41.640to accomplish, and to do was vitally important, and it was a reflection of their spiritual gravitas
00:53:48.360on their value as a person it's very easy to talk a big game it's very easy to believe stuff it's
00:53:55.400much harder to do stuff um we are known by our deeds in house the truth we're known by our
00:54:03.080accomplishments and so going out and winning victory is fundamental to our virtues and it's
00:54:11.240meant by what a virtuous man was to our ancestors. Certainly winning and achieving victory and
00:54:19.420conquering and making things happen is at the very root of the word virtue. The Latin root of
00:54:27.660virtue means manliness. And that was what was thought of being a good man, was a man who's
00:54:33.540capable of accomplishing and of doing. So victory is essential to what we do in the AFA. We have
00:54:40.340taken this to heart, and we've been able to accomplish so much by focusing not on all the
00:54:45.500things we can't do or wish we could do, but on the things we can do and the things we can accomplish.
00:54:50.880And by viewing things with what's possible, what can we do? We've been able to do a lot,
00:54:57.140and there's no end in sight to what we're doing. So victory guides us to great things,
00:55:02.680and victory builds upon itself. You build layers of victory that gets you to the bigger victories.
00:55:10.340So as long as you are worshiping Aryan gods, the gods of our folk, I think that's completely appropriate.
00:55:26.140I think that you mentioned the Celtic deity. The Celts and the Germanics are the same people.
00:55:35.700the defining characteristics are overlapped very
00:55:39.720very often they're overlapped our founder Steve McNallan wrote a really good article about the
00:55:48.040Germans and the Celts and I'm trying to think I know that it's available in our library on our
00:55:54.480website but it'd be worth looking into and it talks about a lot of those similarities but yes
00:56:00.460The Celtic conception of our gods is absolutely welcome because those are the same divinities.
00:56:07.480They go back to the same root and the same spiritual source of our folk.
00:56:10.820Nate that's absolutely welcome um another another Frisian uh goddess that that I did a
00:56:36.180I did a paper on in my, when I was going through my ordination process was free agave.
00:56:46.400There's tons of local deities to our folk and honoring those in AFA Hoffs or an AFA event is absolutely acceptable.
00:56:55.320um i have i have booked the same i've double booked tonight a little bit and the witten has
00:57:04.620been been kind enough to postpone our meeting for an hour but i do got to end it rather promptly
00:57:10.960here because i have that meeting to go to um i had really good questions tonight i'm glad everybody
00:57:20.580has joined us if there's any last minute questions please go ahead and get those in in the next few
00:57:25.300minutes and I will answer them to the best of my ability. I thank you guys for being here. Thank
00:57:30.020you guys for asking questions. Please feel very free to ask anything you want. I know that often
00:57:37.080a question, you know, may seem impolite or whatever, but please feel free to ask me anything
00:57:45.080you want. And if you don't want to ask it publicly, you can always email me mattflavell
00:57:49.500at runestone.org and I will do my best to get you an answer on it. But I do want you guys to know
00:57:54.940my door is always open and i'd love to hear from you guys and if like i say if you have questions
00:58:00.220or concerns please let me know um just because i don't necessarily do what you want on acting on
00:58:06.460them doesn't mean i don't care and it doesn't mean i don't want to listen i absolutely care
00:58:12.540look forward to these every single month i am
00:58:17.980excited that you guys are showing up and let's see i think we got a couple of last things here
00:58:24.940Is the AFA involved in community outreach?
00:58:32.300Yes. How to do that, I think, is an interesting question, I suppose.
00:58:39.680AFA is involved in community outreach. We try not to shove ourselves down people's throats or to be obnoxious.
00:58:45.600We don't have a door-to-door ministry like the Jehovah's Witnesses or the Mormons.
00:58:50.040But we do specifically in the communities where we have our Hoffs try to interact with those communities and build a good name for ourselves as good neighbors in those communities.
00:58:59.520We also do that in a number of different ways with beach cleanups, with adopt a highway cleanups and with groups of AFA, with kindreds of the AFA and other groups of AFA members participating in charities and other things in their community to build a good name for us.
00:59:19.940and to build our reputation as good neighbors.