Bannon's War Room - Battleground EP 207： The Legacy Are Taking A Stand Against McCarthy

00:00:00.000 this is what you're fighting for I mean every day you're out there what they're doing is blowing

00:00:19.040 people off if you continue to look the other way and shut up then the oppressors the authoritarians

00:00:26.800 get total control and total power because this is just like in Arizona this is just like in Georgia

00:00:32.520 it's another element that backs them into a quarter and shows their lies and misrepresentations

00:00:37.660 that's why this audience is going to have to get engaged as we've told you this is the fight

00:00:41.420 all this nonsense all this spin they can't handle the truth war room battleground here's your host

00:00:48.540 stephen k bannon okay welcome it's friday 6 january year of alert 2023 uh historic day and it's going

00:00:57.360 to be historic night i think we're going to reconvene at 10 o'clock for the star chamber

00:01:01.600 you got a hard six you got another what 14 or 15 that are out negotiated a deal i think anna polina

00:01:08.160 luna is going to join us hopefully in a little while by phone to walk us through the look if it

00:01:12.700 happens it's historic right if it happens it's historic people should understand that but by the

00:01:18.880 way it has to happen it has to be actually you heard mike davis you heard myself here john ferricks

00:01:22.840 we're you know davis and i are deal guys i'm always um very concerned when you don't actually have it

00:01:29.140 in your hand particularly when you're dealing with these guys like the cartels however if they we hadn't

00:01:35.280 gone through this exercise and you got the hard six it says no i can't take him a speaker they got the

00:01:40.400 cartel heads got to leave but you wouldn't have never gotten uh you know and this is what you

00:01:45.820 know commander zinke a great guy but you know he's there on cnn every night talking he was a guy that

00:01:51.860 came in from mccarthy early on if you hadn't gone through this exercise which is not painful but this

00:01:56.600 is about change you would have never have gotten the potential historic elements that really people

00:02:02.100 have worked on for 20 25 years i got pedro gonzalez from chronicles one of the editors over there

00:02:07.060 pedro i know you're overseas it's late i want to get you first i got mark mitchell from rasmussen

00:02:11.600 we have the darren beattie we're trying to get anna polina luna um pedro you've had as is your want

00:02:19.980 you've had some pretty uh direct uh tweets today i guess that's the way i can diplomatically say it

00:02:29.740 you know you're one of the young great intellectual lights in our movement uh and i think you've been

00:02:36.180 quite blunt today on on twitter can you tell us what your what your position is as as we sit here

00:02:41.480 tonight uh where they're going to have a star chamber sometimes start at 10 o'clock and try to

00:02:46.280 try to break the hard six yeah well steve first uh thanks for having me on and your uh your opener

00:02:54.580 actually stole some of my lines and i'll come back to that but what i was tweeting today that i think

00:02:59.420 you're referring to is that that basically this was a really important moment right this is one of the

00:03:04.380 most important political debates matt rosendale said on the floor the other night that in the last

00:03:09.220 three days he's participated in more meaningful discussion and constructive debate over the things

00:03:16.300 that affect millions of lives in those three days that he has in the last two years that in other words

00:03:23.080 congressmen are being forced to work and actually negotiate and do things uh and compromise

00:03:30.380 and come to an understanding and inform a consensus right where otherwise they just kind of phone it

00:03:35.000 in uh if you haven't seen that clip where rosendale is saying that if his constituents knew what really

00:03:39.840 happens in congress they'd be shocked and horrified that they think this is what happens every day it's

00:03:44.160 always this contentious debate it's not and i think that's that's part of the problem is we've been

00:03:49.120 encouraged to be so complacent um so this is an important moment needless to say and what i wrote today

00:03:56.980 on twitter was that in this really important moment trump who is you know still considered a sort of

00:04:02.760 like a kingmaker figure in the gop had a chance to chime in and put his thumb on the scale either on the

00:04:09.040 side of the 20 or the rebels whatever you want to call them uh to to basically put his thumb on the scale

00:04:15.340 for them or side with mccarthy and and put pressure on either side and he chose mccarthy i mean there's

00:04:22.380 just no other way to put it trump came in i think after mccarthy failed for the third time to get

00:04:28.520 enough votes and said basically you know okay that's enough time to wrap it up and vote for my

00:04:35.000 kevin and then lauren boebert um gave gave a a speech on the floor where she said that she claimed

00:04:41.860 that trump had actually called uh members of the 20 and told them to quote knock it off and to vote

00:04:47.080 for kevin and i think this is really important because again at this really pivotal moment

00:04:52.540 trump chose not to pressure mccarthy's critics or excuse me trump chose not to pressure mccarthy

00:04:58.960 he could still you know back mccarthy but pressure him to make these concessions that are meaningful

00:05:04.780 and binding to the 20 but instead he actually chose to pressure the 20 and i think that that is

00:05:10.960 really telling and a bad sign for the people who still you know look to him as a kind of anti-establishment

00:05:17.860 figure because trump just put his thumb on the scale for the establishment and going back to what

00:05:22.740 you opened with any meaningful concessions that actually come out of this you know if we actually

00:05:28.420 manage to strap mccarthy to the chair and have him sign uh enumerate concessions on an enchanted scroll

00:05:35.320 that's somehow connected to his soul so he can't you know lie his way out of it uh because i think

00:05:40.560 that's what it would take to get him to not lie his way out of something right if that happens it will

00:05:45.480 be despite immense pressure from pretty much all conservative media with the notable exception of

00:05:51.600 tucker carlson all the legacy gop and trump i mean these 20 really took a stand against everyone and again

00:06:00.620 whatever concessions they get it will be truly just of their own work and will

00:06:06.240 do you by the way we had talked about this a year year and a half ago do you think that president

00:06:13.980 trump if we if president trump had gotten focused do you think he could have actually been selected to

00:06:19.080 be uh speaker on monday night for some interim period of time if he'd been focused i have no idea but i but

00:06:26.000 i know that if trump would have squeezed mccarthy and and used you know the the the pulpit to bully him

00:06:33.120 uh to to to pressure mccarthy's allies or you know to use whatever leverage is still available to him

00:06:39.760 that could have made a a difference uh maybe it would have been able to get these concessions out

00:06:46.020 of mccarthy faster who i mean who knows what could have happened but i mean again imagine if the the

00:06:52.860 gop because again this is where it gets complicated right because we see the establishment well trump just

00:06:57.800 sided with the establishment uh on this important moment so the term establishment almost becomes

00:07:03.440 confusing at this point but you see what i'm saying um i don't know if he could have become speaker

00:07:09.500 but i know that it would have been very easy for him to basically just squeeze mccarthy and say comply

00:07:15.660 with the 20 are telling you to do uh or else you know i'm gonna i'm gonna pull my endorsement from

00:07:21.120 you and endorse a challenger and he didn't do that um what uh i want to go back also to the package if

00:07:31.060 if if you can pull it off and i hate the fact they're giving up their leverage but if you look

00:07:35.220 at this this is a historic package now part of it's to take away the imperial um speakership the

00:07:40.640 others that they just don't trust mccarthy the other they understand we have massive fights

00:07:44.400 on not just the southern border but really on the debt ceiling which is really our big piece of

00:07:48.660 leverage in in the appropriations bill the one that'll be done this this year would any of this

00:07:54.480 have gotten done unless we have gone through the last four or five days and still have much work to

00:08:00.120 do but would have they just coordinated mccarthy where would we be sir absolutely not no i again i think

00:08:08.280 people are really missing the moment if they're listening to guys like mark levin who scream about 1776

00:08:15.420 and the constitution the founding fathers and self-government but then the moment that you

00:08:20.160 know corrupt and abusive leadership is actually challenged they clutch their pearls and say you

00:08:24.360 you people are uh jihadists uh or whatever you know you're you're radicals or so you're insurrectionists

00:08:31.140 i think that's the the term that um killamid used on fox news right uh he it was a kind of a slip

00:08:37.300 where he actually immediately apologized for using the term but it was a slip nonetheless he referred to

00:08:41.960 them as insurrectionists i mean if these 20 had not taken that stand no we would not be in the

00:08:49.340 position where we are in right now where we're even talking about getting something meaningful out

00:08:54.960 of mccarthy and it's taken what i think there's been more than a dozen votes now right 13 we're going

00:08:59.640 13 something like that um for the record the longest and most contentious vote uh was in i think the

00:09:08.680 34th congress and it was 133 votes that lasted about two months so mccarthy could still have uh you know

00:09:16.920 a ways to go if we want to uh if we want to break that record but the point is or rather to your point

00:09:22.920 no absolutely not what the 20 did is incredibly admirable it was necessary and it is really shameful

00:09:30.320 that they did not have more support uh from from the mainstream conservative movement from you know

00:09:37.240 from mar-a-lago from you name it like they were really on their own but these moments are important

00:09:42.920 because they're also revealing you can pay attention to who said what and who took a stand

00:09:47.200 on on uh on what when it actually mattered

00:09:50.860 no in that unforgiving moment is what we call it uh and by the way knowing the 20 pretty well and

00:09:59.840 particularly the the hard the hard six uh they were approached by many dozens all the time to say

00:10:08.800 hey look i really want to come with you i admire what you're doing but i got a donor problem i got

00:10:13.320 this i got that uh and the fact that the conservative media was was all over them all the time uh did not

00:10:19.960 did not help at all as a populist nationalist and and and this being a a a a win we didn't take it

00:10:27.660 unless these guys continue to hold tight and now they're going to start playing games with the

00:10:31.600 denominator people should understand that not just the numerator the denominator so the game's going

00:10:36.740 to be starting to be played tonight that's where they're doing it in the middle of the night um

00:10:40.620 what um what is what is the what's the teaching moment for the populist nationalist movement what

00:10:46.620 should people that are really populist and nationalist uh and traditionalist what what should we take away

00:10:53.260 from this moment listen to all of um dan crenshaw's public mental breakdowns and and do the opposite

00:11:00.360 of what he's saying so you know he's he's saying that these guys are grandstanding they're sabotaging

00:11:05.120 the process actually and i you know this is this is kind of a leftist line uh that you so often hear

00:11:10.960 but this is actually what democracy looks like it's messy and it's painful and it requires contentious

00:11:16.820 debate it requires people taking a stand on principle which i know is something that's totally alien 0.73

00:11:22.520 to losers like dan crenshaw and all of these other grifters in the gop that immediately sided with

00:11:28.120 kevin mccarthy because that's the easy thing to do right um but i think that is really the takeaway 0.94

00:11:33.540 here is that 20 people uh among hundreds can actually make a huge difference i mean that is

00:11:39.920 really remarkable uh you you just don't see this that that often but it and again going back to

00:11:45.960 crenshaw because he's a great foil uh he said that this sets a dangerous precedent right this sets a

00:11:51.140 dangerous precedent that could be repeated in the future i hope it does i hope that this is actually

00:11:56.620 something that we continue to do in the future and we hone it and we become better at it but yes

00:12:03.620 but by the way this is why they won't put out the details about the debt ceiling and the

00:12:07.680 appropriations they understand it scott jenny's trying to do the misdirection plates about people 0.96

00:12:11.280 in montana are going to think that rosendale is holding up the investigations that's all crap 0.66

00:12:15.300 they know where he stands on investigation he's tough as boot leather and they know the 0.75

00:12:19.140 investigation is going to come a couple weeks because the mcconnell faction wants to take you

00:12:23.300 away from debt they want to take you away from money they want to take you away from spending

00:12:26.520 because that's what the oligarchs that's why mcconnell's on their payroll and that's why scott

00:12:31.360 jennings on mcconnell's payroll it's go after the shiny to rain going after the shiny tories we know

00:12:35.680 where the leverage is now even with that they won't even give the details what you do but that we

00:12:41.240 this year in 2023 and that's why i started off with a bang are going to have some massive just

00:12:46.320 simply massive debates on really whether it's the southern border invasion of the southern border

00:12:51.740 whether it's the debt ceiling was he's appropriations bills these if you think it was nasty has been so

00:12:56.700 nasty and personal to date and it got nastier behind the scenes you ain't see nothing ladies and gentlemen

00:13:02.380 if you're fighting for your country we didn't say it was going to be easy we didn't say it was going

00:13:05.660 to be pleasant and it didn't say it wasn't going to be painful and a painful week in a lot of

00:13:10.500 respects but this is what you have to do because the system's so corrupt uh pedro you've been doing

00:13:15.720 fantastic work uh you're brilliant and controversial i think is a great mix how do people track you down

00:13:21.380 on social media the easiest way to find me is on my sub stack at contra.substack.com uh you've got

00:13:28.740 my socials there uh and i also publish original writing and commentary along with roundups of my work

00:13:34.440 from all these other places that i that i publish with and i'm on social media from getter to wherever

00:13:39.940 else uh under the same handle at e-m-e-r-i-t-i-c-u-s but my sub stack uh is it's probably the easiest way

00:13:48.260 to keep up with me thank you for staying up tonight to do this and by the way all of your writing is

00:13:55.000 uh very important everybody should we put it up all the time everybody should read it uh in your social

00:13:59.240 media is incredible the twitter and thank you thank you sir appreciate it i got darren beady and i know

00:14:05.000 darren beady's got a lot to say i'm gonna get to him in one second because i also want to expand it

00:14:08.960 out not just about what's happened today but also uh the historical nature of this day and then i'm

00:14:14.300 i think we can play a clip on ashley babbitt's a mom so we're gonna get to all that i want to bring

00:14:18.480 in mark mitchell from rasmussen mark you've done i guess some flash poll tell us what the polling you've

00:14:23.180 done uh and what do you have how can you help inform this discussion about where we stand

00:14:28.100 on this historic weekend sir well i think people are mixed to ambivalent to quite frankly confused i

00:14:36.420 think we can look at what's happening in the congress and look at those 20 people standing

00:14:41.000 up against kevin mccarthy and say well they probably have good intentions there's objectively good things

00:14:47.480 that are happening from them standing up against the the rest of their party um but you know most

00:14:54.180 people don't really see it uh asking everybody should kevin mccarthy be speaker of the house

00:14:59.900 you know overall voters are mixed and confused and somewhat not sure but looking at republicans

00:15:05.680 48 of republicans say yes which is not a lot but only 29 say no and 23 are not sure i think part of

00:15:14.660 that is you look back at 2020 and trump assembled a huge voting base and i'll tell you what it wasn't

00:15:20.920 all maga it wasn't even all republican it was there were a lot of democrats and independents some people

00:15:26.760 that you know really enticed by his message in 2020 to some people that were just voting against biden

00:15:32.600 and he sort of lost his voice and i think a lot of those people left and what's left is a mix of

00:15:39.220 establishment and maga types and looking at kevin mccarthy's favorability numbers they're just kind of

00:15:45.560 mediocre he's got a 55 percent favorability among republicans you know that's 10 to 12 points less

00:15:52.960 than where pelosi sits with democrats and it just in general republicans aren't as happy with their

00:15:58.340 leaders as democrats are right now part of that is that but isn't that much isn't that much higher

00:16:04.260 isn't that much higher than mcconnell isn't mcconnell's among republicans incredibly low oh his numbers

00:16:10.420 are are horrifying so with mcconnell it's 34 among republicans mccarthy's 55 and trump is still at 76

00:16:19.140 i mean it's not the high 90s like he used to have uh he hasn't been out there racking up wins and i

00:16:25.560 think some of his maga base is probably confused about some of the stances he's taken absolutely

00:16:29.840 uh but what's interesting is that some of those people seem to be willing to to break with trump on

00:16:36.400 issues that they think are hot takes i think the 30 of republicans uh really probably good example

00:16:43.300 of that and i wish it had i wish i had asked him in the same question set but there's a 30 to 40

00:16:48.400 chunk of republicans that never got vaccinated either and of course trump famously supported the

00:16:54.560 vaccines and told everybody to get vaccinated as well so it's interesting that this sort of like

00:17:00.060 chunk of maga that still wildly supports trump then is potentially who's breaking with him here

00:17:06.820 to support these people um but yeah i mean mitch mcconnell are like not worth talking about in the

00:17:12.820 same ballpark as is kevin how how is do you believe that any of this is a trivial mccarthy at 48 which i

00:17:23.060 think people would say is very high i can tell you in the war room live chat or in my getter

00:17:28.120 feed it's 95 5 if that probably 98 too of course we're the hardest core of the probably the trump

00:17:36.500 movement but i noticed a lot of people are upset that president trump has supported him and actually

00:17:40.940 kind of whipped this because i i say trump would have been a much better speaker and if it gotten

00:17:47.340 organized earlier i think trump would have been picked on monday night do you believe any of that 48

00:17:52.600 percent are are people that are trump people and they look at president trump and trump is

00:17:58.480 as it basically oh yeah i think some people are believing and then yeah some people said all right

00:18:05.560 trump wants me to support this guy maybe something's going on behind the scenes sure uh kevin mccarthy

00:18:11.620 hasn't given republicans a ton of reasons to vote against him his unfavorability numbers aren't that high i mean

00:18:17.920 he has a 17 unsure among republicans uh his very unfavorable among republicans is only 10 percent

00:18:24.300 um so you see you hear matt gates say a lot of really strong worded things about kevin mccarthy

00:18:30.200 republicans don't necessarily see it that way uh i think that like yeah pure mega sees that there's

00:18:37.680 good things going on the rest everybody's just kind of confused about this and i think really the optics

00:18:42.740 might sort of blow back we have a question out set out in the field that unfortunately we're not

00:18:48.080 going to get back till next tuesday um but we're asking people how serious of a problem is this delay

00:18:54.360 in in the house getting off the ground and the number is going to be high it's going to be 60 70

00:18:58.580 i saw the first night's results and then we asked voters who's more to blame kevin mccarthy or the

00:19:04.520 republicans standing up to him and i'm pretty sure the numbers for republicans are going to come back

00:19:08.740 mostly split to probably leaning more towards a republican standing up to him so it's more of

00:19:15.060 this there really doesn't seem to be a lot of unity or leadership on the republican side right now

00:19:22.720 um it's it's trump seems to be making calls that are you know some part of his backers sort of

00:19:30.100 question um republican leadership we have mitch mcconnell that's basically voldemort to republicans

00:19:36.040 and then on the you know kevin mccarthy he's not really well known i mean king jeffries is going

00:19:42.540 to come into office and probably have the 20 point higher favorability than kevin mccarthy

00:19:47.260 uh you know among democrats because we asked pelosi two weeks after she lost congress and

00:19:53.660 favorability for her among democrats was 65 percent so like not super high but 10 to 11 points higher

00:19:59.400 than mccarthy is now and we asked the same set is hakeem jeffries going to be a better or worse

00:20:04.720 speaker than pelosi and you know the democrats were all for that guy um so they look at their

00:20:10.380 leadership in dc and they generally see you know harmony if you if you if you asked questions or

00:20:20.220 you've been your previous polling about draining the swamp or that washington's dysfunctional

00:20:25.220 right and and it that rates very highly among republican voters i assume the phrase drain the swamp and

00:20:31.920 you know take care of the lobbyists all that that people understand there's a problem with the

00:20:36.400 dysfunction i'm gonna have to hit our archives for that one steve i you're keep you keep assigning

00:20:41.960 me homework i actually did my homework on the debt we uh we ran a set of that and we're gonna be

00:20:47.300 releasing the numbers next week uh i mean oh we gotta we gotta have we gotta have you on the debt day

00:20:53.280 we have to have you on the debt day that's my baby but no because do they understand that this week

00:20:58.380 was about the process and it's complicated and particularly if you're not dedicated like the

00:21:03.140 war room audience is obviously at a much higher level because people are attracted to these type

00:21:07.400 of issues and will do the homework that you have to do so they understand it does a general republican

00:21:12.800 voter make the connection between when you say drain the swamp or go after the administrative state or take

00:21:20.420 care of this bureaucracy that's out of control connect that to the speeches they heard in this you know

00:21:25.840 from the matt rosendales and and the ability of those 20 and really the capability of those 20 to

00:21:31.700 go after this because this week if if everything happens that they promise is going to happen it would

00:21:37.540 be simply nothing short of historic right if the deals get done and they get executed that's a big if

00:21:43.940 i see why it could be perceived as a swamp draining uh event but i think that this is a really super

00:21:51.700 important thing to do a case study on next week about exactly why republicans in general don't

00:21:57.600 perceive it to be that way because i think the numbers on tuesday are going to show that it wasn't

00:22:01.740 perceived to be that way i think you're going to see a high majority of republicans say that it was a

00:22:06.960 serious problem that the congress didn't get off and running and i think you're going to see a

00:22:11.920 potentially a low majority of republicans blaming uh the people standing up against kevin mccarthy

00:22:18.680 because once again you know trump supported mccarthy um but there will be a a pretty sizable

00:22:24.580 30 to 40 percent of republicans to say it's mccarthy's fault um but i i think part of it is

00:22:31.020 you know there's a really big and unified pundit class still on the republican side that is not happy

00:22:39.840 that this is going on and i think that that reaches a lot of people a lot more than probably the trump

00:22:46.200 can't fix no doubt mark how do they get to you on social media the youtube channel everything you've

00:22:53.580 got you've got other polling coming out we'll have you up next week particularly the debt in the uh and

00:22:58.060 your follow-up the final print on uh on uh who's to blame for this or who's to take uh who's to take

00:23:04.340 credit for it where do people go uh yeah absolutely love to have more subscribers on youtube uh the videos

00:23:10.560 have really been taken off once again we had thank you again for having us on for that died suddenly pull

00:23:15.800 that thing circled the earth a couple times i think millions of people have probably seen that

00:23:19.860 headline and that was a super important message 73 million americans say they know somebody that

00:23:24.800 personally they think died from the vaccine and also to tease you a little bit on the debt one we have

00:23:30.300 a strong majority of americans agreeing with donald trump that the omnibus bill is a monstrosity

00:23:36.320 so that's going to be fun wow now if we could only connect that the the omnibus bill to what happened

00:23:43.840 this week is you want to stop that if it's a monstrosity you got to back the guys that are

00:23:48.820 sitting there trying to do it that's the issue that's what we got to do in the media that's our

00:23:52.160 responsibility but that's our that's our homework assignment uh mark mitchell you're fantastic we

00:23:56.860 love rasmus you do great polling thank you very much sir appreciate you taking time away on a friday

00:24:00.620 to join us oh my pleasure have a good night thanks so i got darren beady from revolver and i got the

00:24:08.160 ashley but i'm gonna play it on the other side give me your response to what's happened today

00:24:13.380 and then hearing what uh mark mitchell at rasmussen said listening to pedro gonzalez which you have

00:24:19.640 enormous respect for and i know he does for you and revolver give us give us your assessment sir

00:24:24.060 well i mean it's really hard to know what to say yet i mean i'm a big fan of the idea of

00:24:34.020 trump being speaker i think that's really maybe one of the only meaningful resolutions the whole

00:24:41.260 thing of course apart from that my chief interest in the outcome here is i want whatever resolution

00:24:48.920 is more likely to implement my subpoena wish list in relation to our denuary 6 reporting i want to get

00:24:57.200 to the bottom of this i want to give the fbi and doj more headaches and very simply very simply i want

00:25:05.580 the full chain of custody of those dnc pipe bomber surveillance tapes and the full and unedited footage

00:25:12.460 so for that's really my my chief interest in this from a sort of practical standpoint what's going to

00:25:20.240 help us get to the bottom of january 6th but from a broader standpoint i really do think you know

00:25:27.200 this is in a way it's given us the little taste of how boring and uninspiring gop politics will be

00:25:36.400 in a post-trump era you know trump is still going to be around and i think he has great shot for 2024

00:25:41.800 but he's not forever and it's just kind of a nightmare to think of you know marshalling some grand

00:25:50.060 battle to determine whether you know kevin mccarthy or somebody like steve scalise is you know the

00:25:56.920 speaker of the house trump is the only thing that would actually make it fun and interesting and real

00:26:04.360 and it would be great for him too because you know i mentioned i keep mentioning i did this amazing

00:26:09.480 interview with him and i'll be honest part of the interview i was kind of poking him a little bit to

00:26:14.440 go back on twitter not because i love twitter so much but because there's this media blackout

00:26:19.880 that it seems like so many of the corporate regime media has sort of agreed we're just going to shut

00:26:25.220 him out if he's not going to go up back on twitter which is sort of the battlefield the public square

00:26:31.080 battlefield speaker of the house is a great way to circumvent that media blackout in an original and

00:26:38.080 truly historical fashion so i think it's just a brilliant idea i understand it's a long shot but it's

00:26:45.140 the only thing that can actually get me excited at this point hang on for a second darren beattie

00:26:52.220 we're gonna come back we're gonna talk about uh j6 what's happening today what's going to happen

00:26:56.560 tonight also got a clip about ashley babbitt's mom back here in a moment

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00:30:00.100 okay welcome back it's going to be a historic night tonight 10 o'clock they're going to come

00:30:06.300 back for the next round i think it's around 14 um want to bring in uh a congressman elect

00:30:12.680 anna polina luna uh who's been a big hero of this and i think people want to know because you had

00:30:19.120 daniel horowitz you've got um other really smart dc drano other really smart people saying hey this

00:30:25.240 historic package you know what has been accomplished here by your group right the the freedom caucus or

00:30:32.060 the scott perry group the ones that signed that letter has been nothing short of historic but it's kind

00:30:36.700 of confusing number one what's actually in it why is it historic historic and then the the other

00:30:42.060 question is people are afraid that hey maybe you guys jumped the gun because you don't really have

00:30:46.360 a solid deal and they're they're completely um i want to say freaked out that kevin mccarthy

00:30:52.100 and the cartel could with all your good intentions bait and switch you guys and you end up with

00:30:57.260 nothing congressman anna congressman elect anna polina luna can you explain that to our audience

00:31:03.540 absolutely and thank you so much for having me back on so i want to say something this what what is

00:31:10.300 being negotiated currently and hopefully what we'll be able to bring to closure this evening is something

00:31:16.140 that when we stepped back and looked at it we realized that this will bring the institutional change

00:31:22.960 to fix a broken system i know a lot of people are disenfranchised with one not only politicians

00:31:28.660 but also the way that congress has been run and to be clear these negotiations and talks didn't just

00:31:35.420 start on january 2nd they started months ago in fact they were in the works from what i gathered even

00:31:41.220 before i got here starting in the summer and then leading into the fall november time frame there you

00:31:47.620 know there was a group of us that met and realized okay how do we fix this we have a speaker's

00:31:51.800 election's coming up but but we really do need to have a part of the conversation and one of the

00:31:57.540 main things was the jeffersonian motion to vacate the chair and what that means is this allows a single

00:32:02.820 person to make the motion to remove the speaker of the house if they go back on their word to the

00:32:07.980 american people and the policy agenda that's been set forth by congress and or in general doing

00:32:13.740 something unconstitutional this for me was incredibly important one not only did it withstand 200 years

00:32:20.200 until nancy pelosi but it is something that allows the representatives to hold the speaker of the

00:32:25.820 house accountable but also too it decentralizes power and that is the difference between how we

00:32:31.400 are going to run the 118th congress and what's going on currently in senate with consolidation of

00:32:36.460 power with mitch mcconnell and the second thing that is in this negotiation currently is a church style

00:32:42.220 committee which allows us to look into the weaponization of three-letter organizations like the fbi

00:32:47.200 against the american people we all know that the sbi has been doing incredibly unethical things

00:32:53.600 and that is going to be something that not only are we going to set up but it's also going to be

00:32:59.200 run by a freedom caucus member that's incredibly important because we are the conservative faction

00:33:04.520 of congress as you saw during this entire process although we were talking and debating and negotiating

00:33:10.940 there were some people that wanted to go and call us terrorists and insurrectionists because we were

00:33:17.900 doing exactly what the american people elected us to do and that's debate these issues and have these

00:33:22.760 conversations because what has happened over the last couple of decades is truly breaking this country

00:33:28.240 i can tell you that every single person all 20 of these people to include the people that are still

00:33:34.840 holding votes right now has been actively a part of accomplishing this incredible i believe once in

00:33:42.460 a lifetime rules package and change that will change the foundation of congress and be around way after

00:33:49.100 we are gone which is exactly why we decided to vote and move in the way that we did it will bring a vote

00:33:55.400 to congressional term limits it will have single subject bills it's called single subject germaneness meaning

00:34:01.180 that you can't have a bill brought to the floor that's loaded with a bunch of nonsense that you

00:34:06.420 know contributes not only to unethical spending but also too they can't put any more you know

00:34:11.580 unconstitutional lines in some of these bills if it's not related to the actual bill

00:34:15.500 as the texas border plan a budget that stops the increase um and actually i think limits some of

00:34:23.700 these increases by about 132 billion dollars and also stops the increase in the debt ceiling and so

00:34:29.700 thomas massey this evening has gone on to tucker carlson and he's actually going to go through some

00:34:34.700 of the financials in it because this is probably a more aggressive approach to really streamline some

00:34:40.920 of this uh fraud waste and abuse that we're seeing coming out of the federal government

00:34:44.080 and ending all covid mandates and funding and then also to a 72 hour rule to actually read the bills but

00:34:52.040 this is only some of the highlights this is about three and a half pages it's on paper you guys will all

00:34:58.060 be able to see that but to be clear our votes are yes currently but that is in good faith that this

00:35:06.960 negotiation will be brought to completion um with absolutely understanding that those that chose to

00:35:15.200 stand up and bring this discussion to the floor in front of the american people that those people would

00:35:22.120 be not disrespected or retaliated against because we are doing the people's work there's a lot in this

00:35:29.080 that i actually had a private conversation with representative massey and he goes look i was a part

00:35:34.900 of basically taking down uh banner right and he's like but it did nothing what we needed to do was change

00:35:42.720 the institution the way that it functions to decentralize power and i do believe that if my 20 brothers and

00:35:49.500 sisters did not have the courage to withstand the nasty barrage of attack that what happened over the last 0.99

00:35:56.640 three days in order to accomplish this we wouldn't have accomplished anything and those people are absolute

00:36:02.420 patriots but i want to be clear about something the media this entire time has been attempting to paint us

00:36:08.340 as wrong for having these conversations the american people deserve these conversations they deserve the debate

00:36:14.760 they deserve to see it and so if we were the congress to do it then so be it but we are very excited about

00:36:20.600 this i know representative chip roy representative byron donalds representative thomas massey scott perry

00:36:27.480 even uh matt gates was instrumental in a lot of these ideas i mean so many people have been a part of this

00:36:34.840 and it's really to fix a broken system so to be clear it is on paper you will all see it um we are

00:36:41.320 you know we have we have some trust issues too but the reason why some of us chose to step forward

00:36:46.720 and say okay right now during the negotiation process we will switch our vote is because this

00:36:51.660 is underway and in securing this it's not for us it's on behalf of the american people and to change

00:36:57.560 the institution and it will outlast all of us okay real quickly this package historic in its nature for

00:37:05.380 the spending for the rules package for the investigations those three big buckets and you got the texas plan

00:37:10.360 and other things would because the incoming you've taken is is not as bad it's bad from the msnbc and

00:37:17.940 cnn but let's be brutally frank conservative media outside of a few tucker the war room and a couple of

00:37:23.680 other outlets and websites you've been taking it there would this ever have happened ma'am if you 20

00:37:31.500 had not dug in and fought like hell over the last four or five days to get it no it wouldn't have

00:37:38.760 and to be clear um you know we were at this was not a fun process nor should it be right because

00:37:46.580 if you want true change no one's ever going to just give it to you but it's important to note that

00:37:53.140 the 20 of us stood together and you know we will continue to make sure that whatever happens tonight

00:38:01.080 regardless that these people are our friends we trust them they're our colleagues they're ideologically

00:38:07.740 aligned with us and so no matter what we're still going to be providing cover for our friends even

00:38:13.320 those that might not agree with this but we will be there and we have their backs

00:38:17.820 last question you said it's yes for now tonight they're coming and they're saying they may change

00:38:24.880 the denominator things may happen to actually get this done they're actually announcing if they do

00:38:29.160 move the speaker vote and it's successful for mccarthy they're going to swear people in immediately

00:38:34.280 they don't care what time of night if it's in the middle of the night and they're going to move the

00:38:37.600 rules package i'm just quoting what's up on twitter now from certain news forces when you say yes for

00:38:43.280 now do you are you going to get this finally accomplished before all that happens or will this be a

00:38:49.480 process that goes on after uh any next the next vote for speaker and the and the subsequent votes for

00:38:56.600 speaker this will be solidified prior it's on paper um this will be done prior to that so that we have

00:39:03.280 an understanding but also to remember a single motion uh to vacate the chair of the jeffersonian

00:39:08.800 motion that's incredibly important and that has been publicly acknowledged and embraced the conference

00:39:14.400 um in regards to being able to vote on these rules i mean these are all things that are accountability

00:39:19.640 tools to the representative so that we uh basically have true true voices in this body you know one of

00:39:28.420 the most alarming things that i found when i got to congress is that i couldn't just bring a bill to the

00:39:33.940 floor i had to go to the rules committee right the rules committee determines every single piece of

00:39:38.840 legislation that hits the house floor and yet on this committee there wasn't fair representation for

00:39:44.280 conservative members of congress members of congress that might think that you know the red flag laws

00:39:49.880 are unconstitutional that voice wasn't there and so when we're wondering why you know when president

00:39:55.520 trump had the house the senate and the executive branch in 2016 why his policy agendas likely were

00:40:01.440 being blocked in congress it was because of committees like this and so to go a little bit into it further

00:40:07.620 um the request was to have fair representation on these committees to have that voice there and present

00:40:14.460 to ensure that our constitution is being protected and with this rules package it's actually doing

00:40:21.160 just that and so you will all be able to see that i know representative chip roy is work uh still working

00:40:28.000 on finalizing final details but please ensure that we are not going to move forward with anything until

00:40:35.060 this is finalized this is in good faith and ultimately i just want everyone can you can you

00:40:41.360 have can can can you have good faith when obviously you don't trust the cartel the entire time you went

00:40:49.180 took all this income and you said hey i have to we have to have all these rules packages that not

00:40:53.880 simply has more conservative representation but opens up a process in one regard plus takes down

00:41:00.540 the imperial speakership i mean kevin mccarthy he's going to start getting lit up not

00:41:04.900 by his other members but by the media that he gave up too much you guys you clearly don't trust him

00:41:10.920 and you don't trust the leadership of the cartel but you still trust it that even in writing tonight

00:41:16.520 that it will be executed and implemented you're prepared to stand by that to your constituents which

00:41:21.180 we know you you won the old-fashioned way going door to door yes and i can tell you that i'm not the

00:41:28.040 only one there are some other staunchly conservative members like representative gosar

00:41:32.340 that are standing with us on that and there's other members too that i think you know are

00:41:38.900 potentially still voting no but i think the other members that are currently no votes once they see

00:41:44.680 this once they see that solidified and ultimately that there are the fail safes in place they might

00:41:50.320 consider switching their votes but to be clear i just want to clarify something the media immediately

00:41:55.080 started circulating that there was a potential chance that there'd be a democrat you know if we

00:41:59.360 didn't if we didn't stop and accept this without making these crazy quote-unquote uh requests that

00:42:05.240 a democrat would take control of the gavel not simply not true and i really think that the leftist

00:42:11.100 media tried to destroy our even our conservative base by working at pitting us against each other

00:42:16.600 and to be expected but just please understand that i'm happy to say just by looking at this and i'm

00:42:22.500 sure as some of you tune into tucker carlson tonight with representative massey that when you hear what he has

00:42:28.700 to say that this is going to you know be one of those things that once put in place it's going

00:42:33.040 to outlive us all and when i you know i'm no longer in dc that at least we were able to decentralize

00:42:39.620 and hopefully get the truth out to the american people that church style committee is going to look

00:42:44.280 into january 6th it's going to look into the weaponization of the sbi against the american people

00:42:49.680 it's going to be looking into the weaponization of the doj and these agencies that we are funding that

00:42:55.720 are that are breaking laws and that needs to happen and so you know uh i just it's been an intense

00:43:03.380 definitely three days we're still here we will likely be voting way into the evening but this has

00:43:09.100 been really something that we all worked on blood sweat tears and when i say we all i mean every single

00:43:13.720 20 of us so congressman uh elect anna polina luna uh how do people follow you on social media how

00:43:21.720 they get to your website i have an official page now set up it's um at rep luna my personal is at

00:43:29.640 real anna polina uh thank you very much for taking time away to join us and we will make sure everybody

00:43:36.820 watches tucker tonight to see tom massey so thank you thank you uh darren beady that the group that's

00:43:46.460 negotiated this and is going to execute on they're taking some incoming give me your sense you've been

00:43:51.000 you've been one of the driving focuses on on particularly these investigations and you know

00:43:55.360 tom massey as well as anybody um you've got uh you you're going to get the weaponization of government

00:44:00.900 they've already said is going to include j6 to get to the bottom of it give us your sense we got you

00:44:05.920 know three or four minutes i want to just have your sense of where we are tonight because we're all going

00:44:09.580 to watch tucker but this is going to be quite contentious trust me over the next couple of days

00:44:14.220 right well it all depends on what the actual detail details are and how it's implemented i don't have

00:44:22.100 special visibility visibility into that i do you know trust and admire a lot of the people involved

00:44:29.600 in the negotiations here but ultimately i think it remains to be seen what we're gonna what we're

00:44:35.780 gonna get out of it i do appreciate that getting to the bottom of january 6 among other abuses of the

00:44:42.600 government and intel agencies is considered to be one of the top priorities um uh part of this

00:44:49.360 negotiation but i think it's you know it's too early to tell and they just need to stick with it

00:44:55.560 and not relent despite the pressure

00:44:58.480 you know um we took down canner in 14 with dave bratt in a primary first time that ever happened in

00:45:07.520 the history of the republic uh in a primary for a sitting majority leader took a boehner boehner was

00:45:12.720 taken out by mark meadows and the motion to vacate and the team at breitbart and others

00:45:16.660 that teamed up to take out boehner with the motion to vacate in i think in 15 uh ryan basically threw

00:45:23.600 in the towel in 18 essentially after screwing president trump when he had we had all we had

00:45:28.740 every branch of government uh and now mccarthy was the last mccarthy was sitting there and this could

00:45:34.880 all have come together i want to make sure people understand the difficult when you say taking on

00:45:39.620 the swamp that's what i think is too cute to term this is nasty work it's hard work because there's

00:45:44.820 so much money and so much power and they're not going to be dug out of here easily do you think

00:45:50.020 if this is not pulled off tonight we have lost a even with the motion to vacate and all the

00:45:54.920 controls around here that we've lost a unique opportunity to really take out take a big part of

00:46:01.740 cartel out like rust vote said once you remove mccarthy then you can negotiate with who's

00:46:06.880 remaining but you got to take out the cartel head the the last of the canter boehner ryan kind of line

00:46:13.940 of royalty sir well again i think it remains to be seen i don't have much faith in mccarthy um but

00:46:22.180 you know he's one of these people who you know sometimes we lament the fact that these people are

00:46:28.420 totally unprincipled and malleable but as supremely vacuous in the literal sense vacuous i don't not

00:46:35.940 really referring to his cognition but is just the space of the mind and the spirit that actually

00:46:42.240 where convictions live that's completely vacant for someone like mccarthy which it's better someone 1.00

00:46:50.020 like that is better than someone who's convicted in the wrong direction problem with someone like

00:46:54.780 mccarthy is the only way he would do anything good is that if he's bullied he has we have to be able

00:47:01.000 to bully him more than the establishment and the donors and the special interests can entice him

00:47:06.960 and threaten him it's just a matter of who's giving him the stronger enticement who's bullying him harder

00:47:12.820 and that's the direction he'll go so i'd like to think that we have the leverage to do that it remains

00:47:19.100 to be seen but if we don't fixate on this church style committee which by the way trump is explicitly

00:47:25.360 endorsed i don't know if you know that he endorsed it in our in our interview so we've got everyone

00:47:31.320 on board with this church style committee and i really hope that the people engaging in these

00:47:37.520 negotiations take it seriously understand the stakes involved because unless we address this problem

00:47:43.480 of the rogue intel agencies we're gonna you know mccarthy is the least of our problems talk about

00:47:50.020 fake and performative everything is effectively going to be mccarthy unless we get the national

00:47:56.220 security state under control real quickly uh and by the way we're going to get to the ashley babbitt

00:48:03.040 uh video and the about her mom's arrest today tomorrow tomorrow show we'll be back at 10 a.m tomorrow

00:48:08.240 morning covering this non-stop and i'll probably be up on getter later as the as the star chamber

00:48:12.900 commences at 10 we're going to try to get uh grace chung and captain ben or try to work out something

00:48:18.120 um your your interview with president trump we've put it up we're pushing it out give our audience

00:48:25.200 tease it because i want people to watch all of it talk to us about it make your pitch sir it's right

00:48:32.000 there at revolver.news right now people are saying it's one of the best they've ever seen if not the

00:48:37.100 best and i will say this this is simply a fact it's the most extensive discussion he's ever had

00:48:42.700 on these revolver news issues on the revolver news war room issues intel abuses intel involvement in

00:48:50.680 censorship extensive conversation on the fed's direction including ray epps the individual known

00:48:57.120 as jake sullivan um we get into you know pretty uncensored talk about mike pompeo mitch mcconnell

00:49:06.920 frank luntz and others um we have a great time talking about these people and in some cases

00:49:13.520 insulting them but it's well deserved um we get into fauci we get into fauci and covid we get into

00:49:21.180 the jfk files very fascinating discussion on that and just to sprinkle a little pop culture on it

00:49:28.100 we get into an unexpected conversation about trump's relationship with michael jackson so there's

00:49:35.520 something in there for everybody something for everything darren be the reason people are raving

00:49:42.040 about the interview you're a smart guy and you know the president used to be a speechwriter so you

00:49:46.260 know you know uh you know how the man ticks that's why it's such an impressive interview darren thank you

00:49:51.360 so much for taking time away on a friday evening to join us appreciate it thank you okay homework

00:49:58.500 assignments eight o'clock uh make sure you check fox for tucker carlson tom mass is going to be there i think

00:50:04.560 he's going to put some math in here particularly on some of the big issues in the debt ceiling

00:50:07.700 there's a lot of moving pieces i mean anna palina luna said it's a yes for now this is what scott perry

00:50:14.320 said um i just to hope it's not the way i would negotiate but hey you got to do what you got to do

00:50:21.200 right that right now i just you know the cartel is the cartel and you've this an opening salvo in the

00:50:27.000 opening weeks of 2023 and ladies and gentlemen it's not going to get easier from here it's just

00:50:33.180 not and we got some massive issues issues of the finances of the company the economy the company

00:50:38.040 the sovereignty of the nation or country sovereignty of the nation all of it okay we'll be back here

00:50:44.640 live 10 o'clock tomorrow morning make sure you're in the war room also check us up on getter tonight

00:50:49.780 for any uh further action make sure you check out revolver see you tomorrow morning at 10

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Battleground EP 207： The Legacy Are Taking A Stand Against McCarthy

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