Bannon's War Room - Episode 2008： How To Win The Long War： The War Room Solution Cont.

00:00:00.000 And our thanks to Miguel Marcos for that reporting.

00:00:02.640 A quick programming note, join CNN's Drew Griffin for a new investigation into Steve

00:00:07.760 Bannon and his master plan to reshape the U.S. government and the Republican Party and

00:00:11.920 indeed the United States.

00:00:13.660 The CNN special report, Steve Bannon, Divided We Fall, begins at 8 p.m. Eastern on Sunday

00:00:18.720 evening.

00:00:20.960 OK, we did cooperate that.

00:00:22.520 Obviously, I want everybody in the Warren Posse.

00:00:24.320 I know you might have a tough time finding CNN on your dial, but we're going to be doing

00:00:28.000 some live stuff during that.

00:00:29.600 We'll have some fun.

00:00:30.540 I want to make sure everybody's watching it.

00:00:32.740 It's a whole room of Posse, so we're going to get a lot of information on Getter.

00:00:37.500 Jerome Revere from the new party is Take Back France?

00:00:41.580 Yeah, it's Take Back because we feel that France has escaped us.

00:00:47.480 Formerly Front National, formerly National Rally, senior personages and a member of the European

00:00:53.060 Parliament.

00:00:54.000 Of course, Ben Harnwell.

00:00:54.900 Ben Harnwell had his awakening.

00:00:56.460 He runs our Rome Bureau now, the International Bureau.

00:00:58.680 Ben, you had your awakening when you went to the European Parliament.

00:01:02.900 You came out, I think, at a regular parliament, went to the European Parliament as a gung-ho

00:01:07.480 European, you know, one of these EU guys and a globalist.

00:01:14.440 And it didn't take you too long to realize it was kind of a con, correct?

00:01:17.400 No, not correct.

00:01:19.720 It took me quite a bit of time, to be honest, Steve.

00:01:22.500 I'm sometimes a little slow on the pickup.

00:01:26.500 Hold it.

00:01:27.020 Ben Harnwell slow in the uptake?

00:01:30.020 No way.

00:01:30.540 Not since you've been here at the War Room.

00:01:31.680 Not since I've been here at the War Room, for sure.

00:01:35.760 It took me a few years.

00:01:39.280 Well, look, I'd spent 10 years, throughout working in the Tory party, I was one of, perhaps

00:01:45.480 the 20% of the party then that was really quite principally Tory European.

00:01:50.740 And that was my background, that was my milieu, that's where I operated in.

00:01:57.120 And as I say, it was going to work in the European Parliament itself that I realized that

00:02:01.220 the whole thing was a racket.

00:02:03.820 Perhaps it took me about six months when I was there for the scales to fall, but fall

00:02:08.640 they did.

00:02:10.780 And it was an awakening.

00:02:12.300 So look, I want to finish now, Steve, with this quick story from last week, which ties

00:02:17.760 together everything that we've just been talking about.

00:02:20.640 In fact, it's really the perfect illustration. 0.94

00:02:23.280 So I say, you know, these guys that run the West, they're sociopaths, right?

00:02:28.240 And you say, well, so you say to me, Han, well, that's a bit extreme. 0.70

00:02:31.660 Sociopaths, really?

00:02:32.640 You mean they're psychos?

00:02:35.620 Listen to this, and I'm going to tell you what I saw in the FT last week.

00:02:41.240 And you tell me whether these people are sociopaths, okay?

00:02:44.680 You know how it is when you're just flicking to the morning papers,

00:02:47.260 and you see a story, and you think, no, no, no, no, no, I can't have read that properly.

00:02:52.520 And you read, because I've not heard this anywhere, you know?

00:02:56.960 And then you think, well, hang on, you read it again, and you think, well, that is actually

00:03:00.680 what it says.

00:03:01.980 And it's the FT, which, as I say, the FT, The Economist, Axios, Reuters, they're good

00:03:09.280 for facts, hopeless on the interpretation.

00:03:12.560 So here was a story that we did, that you and I both pushed out quite a lot on Getter.

00:03:20.320 But it's the first time we've had an opportunity to talk about it.

00:03:22.880 And I'll use that as a quick open brackets to say, this is why, folks, brilliant if you

00:03:28.740 follow us every day on The War Room.

00:03:30.860 But really, there's a lot of stuff that we're all doing.

00:03:33.080 All the people you know, all the folks you know that are out front of camera on The War

00:03:38.400 Room, we're pushing out a lot of stuff on Getter as well.

00:03:42.480 So even though we haven't had a chance to talk about this particular story, it's probably the

00:03:46.600 most important thing we've been doing on Getter.

00:03:48.760 So what's this story?

00:03:49.840 Well, the FT carried an article in the middle of the week saying that there was a fear that

00:04:00.800 the arms that the West had been supplying to Ukraine were slipping beyond the – I put

00:04:07.300 it euphemistically – were slipping out of the control of the Ukrainians and ending up

00:04:12.020 on the black market.

00:04:13.200 And I will leave the interpretation of that to a later moment.

00:04:21.160 And right down – talk about a buried lead, Steve.

00:04:23.500 Right at the bottom of the article, here is – here's the killer line, which I'm just

00:04:29.320 going to – Europol, which is basically the European Union's FBI.

00:04:34.360 Europol, the EU's law enforcement agency, said in April that its investigations indicated

00:04:41.760 that weapons trafficking from Ukraine into the European Union bloc to supply organized

00:04:49.200 crime groups had begun and was a potential threat to EU security.

00:04:54.300 Now, that actually isn't – that isn't the buried lead of this story.

00:04:59.000 The buried lead is in the – there is a – I say it's at the bottom of the article.

00:05:02.640 There is actually a paragraph left to come.

00:05:04.420 And it said Europol had told this in a briefing that sent to governments.

00:05:10.460 That, I think, is actually the killer line here.

00:05:13.700 What does – why is that the killer line?

00:05:15.780 And why does it justify everything we've just been saying over the past hour?

00:05:19.060 Because it means, Steve, that once we – as we've been seeing our European – at least 0.82

00:05:25.860 our European Union leaders – and I would expect Europol to have shared this with the Americans.

00:05:31.180 When we saw the daily, the weekly pilgrimage to Kiev on behalf of our European leaders,

00:05:39.200 Ursula von der Leyen went, Mario Draghi, the prime minister of Italy went, they all went

00:05:47.240 to kiss the ring, all of them, for the photo op, right, to parade our values.

00:05:52.440 They knew, Steve, at the time of the arms that they were supplying to Kiev were ending up

00:06:00.940 on the black market.

00:06:02.480 When they were going there, shaking their hands, you know, you remember with the manicured

00:06:06.940 green – the immaculately manicured green lawns in the background, which is quite something

00:06:12.340 for a war zone.

00:06:13.760 Let it pass.

00:06:14.740 We're going to – let that pass.

00:06:16.540 We all saw the photo ops.

00:06:18.940 When they were going there, smiling in front of the cameras, saying we're going to send

00:06:23.340 more arms to the Ukrainians so that they can defend themselves and defend their freedom,

00:06:28.460 they knew whilst they were saying it that those arms were ending up on the black market. 0.98

00:06:33.920 That's why they're sociopaths. 0.88

00:06:35.420 No, no, no.

00:06:36.060 But don't bury the lead.

00:06:37.320 You've got to go back to the article.

00:06:38.440 Don't bury the lead.

00:06:40.060 Because McConnell and those guys were over there.

00:06:41.480 But when the heads of the EU went over – remember we had that weekend, we had the beaches.

00:06:45.140 I just remember the beaches looked like Miami Beach.

00:06:47.660 I said, I want the umbrella concession in Kiev on the beaches.

00:06:52.620 Hold it.

00:06:53.360 Hold it.

00:06:53.800 But the buried lead, which is unbelievable, it's affecting the security of the individual

00:07:00.160 EU countries.

00:07:02.360 The oligarchs and the gangsters are selling it back to gangs.

00:07:06.060 I think it's selling the Russians too, but back to gangs in the EU.

00:07:08.800 So in Italy, France, Germany, all of it, you're less safe as a citizen.

00:07:16.540 First off, it's your tax money. 0.97

00:07:18.920 These clowns are sending in to Zelensky and these con artists. 0.98

00:07:22.820 We told you the oligarchs have put no money in the game. 0.98

00:07:26.000 EU has sent now I think a total of $40 billion.

00:07:28.300 I think the Americans are almost up to $70 billion.

00:07:30.180 So it's over $100 billion has been sent in aid, $1.7 billion the other day to nurses.

00:07:37.520 I put it up on Getter.

00:07:38.820 In the Rio Grande Valley, have we spent $1.7 billion on health care and in nurses?

00:07:45.900 I ask you that.

00:07:47.240 The answer is no.

00:07:48.160 We approved a $1.7 billion payment for their health care system.

00:07:54.760 We've already bailed the pension out.

00:07:55.980 But here, just read that line for me again, what the FBI of the EU says, the arms are

00:08:03.800 coming back to the gangs in the EU member nations and making it less secure.

00:08:08.900 Just read that line to me again.

00:08:10.420 Hey, guess what?

00:08:11.460 The guys who run the EU are simps, okay?

00:08:14.400 They deserve this.

00:08:15.400 But the citizens, and this is on Europe, you guys have got to step up.

00:08:20.220 If you're going to be populist, you're going to be economic nationalist, you've got no more.

00:08:23.880 You know, you've had some of these great groups try to go, Front National, Salvini, you've

00:08:29.480 got them all over.

00:08:30.820 If you don't throw the yoke of your masters off, the sociopathic overlords, as Ben Hardwell

00:08:37.560 so subtly describes it, this is what you get.

00:08:41.420 You get taxed.

00:08:43.040 Your economy, your natural gas, you don't have air conditioning this summer, you're going

00:08:45.980 to freeze this winter.

00:08:47.380 The food price is going through the roof.

00:08:49.040 Inflation is going through the roof.

00:08:50.240 If your tax dollars are sending arms to the EU, excuse me, to Ukraine, they're stealing

00:08:56.440 them.

00:08:57.400 The oligarchs are stealing them right here.

00:09:00.740 West fears arms sent to Ukraine end up on Europe's black market.

00:09:05.540 But the buried lead is they're selling them back to gangs so that you're less secure.

00:09:10.400 So when you walk down the street with the gangs shooting like in France a couple of months

00:09:13.600 ago, that's coming from your tax dollars.

00:09:15.700 And if you don't overthrow, if you don't overthrow them, then I hate to say you're doomed.

00:09:22.160 You're doomed.

00:09:22.920 Ben Hardwell, fabulous, fabulous pull out of there, sir.

00:09:27.320 You want me to read the line again then?

00:09:29.640 Read it to me, baby.

00:09:30.760 I may record this and just have it play, you know, at night when I'm in bed, have Ben's

00:09:35.500 sonorous voice.

00:09:37.640 Just read, you've got to read this to me again.

00:09:40.400 So Europol, the EU's law in for this is by this is the Financial Times.

00:09:44.920 I just want to stress this.

00:09:46.200 This is the you can't get a newspaper more sedate and genteel and less alarmist and the

00:09:52.400 Financial Times.

00:09:53.160 I'm not reading this from Infowars.

00:09:55.020 OK, you're the poll.

00:09:57.300 It's this is not the this is not Gateway Pundit or it's not Alex Jones.

00:10:01.660 No, Europol, the EU's law enforcement agency, said in April that its investigations indicated

00:10:10.300 that weapons trafficking from Ukraine into the bloc to supply organized crime groups had

00:10:17.620 begun and was a potential threat to EU security.

00:10:23.340 Ben Hardwell, I know you got a bolt.

00:10:25.280 I want to thank you for taking time on your Saturday away to join us.

00:10:29.560 How do people get you on and hopefully you'll do some live broadcast over the weekend?

00:10:35.460 Make sure, Ben, we want you live streaming during the during the or at least being up

00:10:39.180 on your account during the CNN, the CNN thing at eight o'clock Eastern time or that may be

00:10:45.960 too late.

00:10:46.360 That may be like so dark in the morning.

00:10:48.000 Ben is very persnickety about getting to bed at the appropriate time.

00:10:51.900 Ben Hardwell, how do they get you on Getter?

00:10:54.160 It's simply my surname.

00:10:57.840 It's at Hanwell at Hanwell.

00:11:01.100 The little verified mark checkmark to it.

00:11:04.520 I'm there and I'm pushing out all my controversial analysis that I that you won't let me bring

00:11:09.780 on to the war room.

00:11:10.820 It's all there on my get to feed.

00:11:16.260 Jerome, thank you for joining us here on Saturday.

00:11:18.720 We we appreciate it.

00:11:20.480 Am I going to get that blowback the entire time the let's make sure we take that down?

00:11:26.160 OK, fine.

00:11:26.960 That goes out.

00:11:27.500 OK.

00:11:29.460 The story from the from the financial time I'm crushed.

00:11:33.820 I'm crushed.

00:11:34.520 You're laughing.

00:11:35.340 Ben was laughing.

00:11:36.240 I'm crushed because they are going back to to exactly to to to my country.

00:11:41.020 You see, it's it's well, so I saw those videos of all the of all the what the the the guys

00:11:46.320 that just arrived from North Africa or sub-Saharan Africa, the some of the some of the guys are

00:11:52.660 coming in.

00:11:53.280 Immigration had this. 0.99

00:11:54.480 This is a couple of months.

00:11:55.240 This is a couple of months ago.

00:11:56.460 Yeah.

00:11:56.880 It's an invasion.

00:11:57.980 That's why we have to call things the way they are regarding this immigration.

00:12:01.040 You see them coming in in Spain, especially.

00:12:04.460 And you have those no women, no children, only young men are just 30 years old, fighting

00:12:10.200 age, fighting age band and and dressed with with fighter clothes.

00:12:13.760 So they are they are invading literally Europe. 0.98

00:12:16.760 And that's they are they are.

00:12:18.100 Why can't why can't why can't why can't why can't Europe stop it?

00:12:22.280 Because Europe doesn't Europe.

00:12:24.080 Two things.

00:12:25.100 Europe is one thing.

00:12:26.120 It's a huge continent.

00:12:27.180 It's a it's a civilization that I worship.

00:12:29.460 I hate the European Union.

00:12:31.880 The European Union is a political agency that is trying to shape Europe and make the 0.72

00:12:38.380 nations disappear.

00:12:39.480 And this is what Ben was explaining, that it took him a couple of months, but not that

00:12:44.040 long to realize that the European Union, which is the organization, the supranational

00:12:48.920 organization that wants to organize Europe, that has to be changed, totally changed, totally

00:12:54.500 challenged.

00:12:55.000 Because the Europe has existed for, you know, it's a geographical space.

00:13:02.340 It's an historical measure for millennia.

00:13:05.480 And it is also a collaboration between nations.

00:13:08.540 And I think that some kind of European organization is really nice.

00:13:12.860 But each nation has to be in charge of its own immigration policies.

00:13:16.680 And the Spanish should be able to say, with a party like Vox, which is a great national

00:13:22.720 party, a great populist party, they should be able to say, look, we do not want more

00:13:28.100 migrants.

00:13:28.900 But no, it's the European Union setting the standards.

00:13:31.980 This is where the problem lies.

00:13:33.580 It's because we have a supranational entity.

00:13:36.080 It's worse than a federal government.

00:13:39.140 I'm not a great lover of federation.

00:13:44.420 Switzerland is a confederacy.

00:13:46.080 It works very well.

00:13:46.880 And I think that Europe could have some type of organization like that because our nations

00:13:50.940 are 2,000 years old.

00:13:52.600 So they work together.

00:13:53.660 They have their specificity.

00:13:55.940 Where it be in education, where it be in justice, the way we deal with our own system is different

00:14:02.200 one nation from the other. 0.85

00:14:03.300 But still, we can cooperate on many issues, especially economic issues, and make a nice

00:14:10.280 market where people can share their wealth and organize a wealthier continent.

00:14:15.460 But here, the target, the goal of the European Union is to destroy the nation and replace

00:14:20.560 it with a globalist agenda.

00:14:22.120 This is where the problem lies.

00:14:23.720 Okay.

00:14:23.920 We're going to take a short commercial break.

00:14:25.160 We're going to get into all that, the Ukraine war, the geopolitics of it, the economics of it.

00:14:29.880 Also, I think we're trying to talk to Mike Lindell.

00:14:32.020 Well, he's dying to get the pitches you guys got earlier in the week about paper ballots

00:14:37.880 and people that count them right after elections and come out by 8, 9, 10 o'clock at night

00:14:43.520 and know exactly what went on.

00:14:44.640 Okay.

00:14:45.180 Short commercial break.

00:14:46.140 Be back in the war room special.

00:14:47.720 How to win the long war the war room's way, not the economist's way.

00:14:52.560 All next.

00:14:53.000 And our thanks to Miguel Marquez for that reporting.

00:15:02.620 A quick programming note.

00:15:03.920 Join CNN's Drew Griffin for a new investigation into Steve Bannon and his master plan to reshape

00:15:09.840 the U.S. government and the Republican Party and indeed the United States.

00:15:13.860 The CNN special report, Steve Bannon, Divided We Fall, begins at 8 p.m. Eastern on Sunday

00:15:18.700 evening.

00:15:20.760 Welcome back to the war room.

00:15:22.600 Here with Mike Lindell.

00:15:24.140 Hi, Mike.

00:15:25.520 Hello.

00:15:26.040 How are you doing?

00:15:27.880 Quite good.

00:15:28.960 I like that you're looking at the French system for the ballots.

00:15:32.700 Yeah, absolutely.

00:15:33.920 You know, in any business, in my business, if you're an entrepreneur, if you're going into

00:15:39.840 any business, you learn from someone that's already been there, or if you're changing a

00:15:43.980 paradigm in an industry, if you're doing anything, you go, hey, I wonder if someone's

00:15:48.640 done this before and you look to them.

00:15:50.960 Well, that's why I've reached out to you guys and how amazing you do 70 million people

00:15:56.500 and you're done in one day.

00:15:59.280 And I don't know, what does it take?

00:16:01.760 About 30 seconds of ballot to validate or whatever it is.

00:16:05.200 And it's just amazing.

00:16:07.160 And I've looked at not only yourselves, or you guys at France, but also different ones

00:16:14.040 that have done this here in the United States.

00:16:15.940 And it seems to match the same time.

00:16:19.300 And one of the big lies is, oh, it's going to take so long.

00:16:21.960 But it's amazing.

00:16:22.820 You guys do a great job over there.

00:16:25.620 Yeah, it is kind of archaic because it's paper belt, but it is quite accurate. 0.52

00:16:30.520 And when you look at the other side, in France, we have tried to experiment with the electronic

00:16:37.840 ballots and people do not believe in it.

00:16:42.620 They feel that it can be played with.

00:16:45.380 They feel that people can cheat.

00:16:47.380 So there is this feeling by the people that this is not a good system.

00:16:51.200 So we are very attached to our ballot by ballot system.

00:16:57.240 So I hope you can get it through in the US.

00:16:59.160 Yeah, sometimes the best thing in the world are done by hand.

00:17:03.240 And I'll tell you, if it doesn't scare people, all they got to do is, of using machines, just

00:17:08.520 look at Venezuela, look at Australia, and then now look at the United States.

00:17:13.300 They've tried to completely take our country. 0.95

00:17:15.880 But there are great things going on.

00:17:18.580 We just had last week, earlier, it's a judge in Arizona.

00:17:26.440 That was our first preliminary injunction to get rid of the machines.

00:17:31.300 He's looking at the evidence now on July 21st.

00:17:35.900 It's a big breakthrough.

00:17:37.420 Where a judge is actually going to look at the evidence and make a call saying, hey, we can't use these machines.

00:17:43.820 And, you know, the government system came out and said, you can't, these are defective or that they're vulnerable.

00:17:51.180 ES&S, one of our voting machine companies out of Omaha, one of the biggest ones, if not the biggest, they were right there at a hearing in Louisiana.

00:18:00.600 And they said, all machines are vulnerable.

00:18:05.900 All.

00:18:06.320 They didn't say you can put stuff on them to make them that they can't be hacked or can't be cheated.

00:18:11.400 They said, no, they're all.

00:18:13.400 You can't make a machine.

00:18:15.360 You can't use a voting machine that can't be hacked or that can't be vulnerable to cheating.

00:18:20.260 And when you can cheat with the machine, one person can cheat by a million votes.

00:18:25.760 The other way, when you're hand, you'd have to have, if you were going to cheat by a million votes, you would take about a million people.

00:18:32.280 So you're, and you guys having your elections over there by paper and hand counted, the people trust that, don't they?

00:18:41.120 They trust it.

00:18:41.900 They do.

00:18:43.680 And the one thing that baffled me when I was there for the presidential election in 2020 is the fact that it takes so long to get results.

00:18:52.980 In France, the last polling station will close at 8 p.m.

00:18:58.520 And we know the results by 8 p.m.

00:19:00.400 because some of the polling stations started counting at 7.

00:19:04.460 And you basically have an idea of what's going on.

00:19:07.180 So a couple of races in Congress, for example, where there will be only a difference by 10 votes, will take longer.

00:19:14.980 But we never go past midnight.

00:19:17.060 We know the results.

00:19:18.660 Wow.

00:19:19.000 I don't see how people can go to bed not knowing who's the president.

00:19:23.760 Right.

00:19:24.220 So let me get this right.

00:19:26.480 You have about 60 to 70 million people.

00:19:28.740 They do an election and you're done by paper and you're done hand counting at the worst scenario by midnight.

00:19:38.100 Well, isn't that amazing?

00:19:39.900 Now, here, what I would say, because I'm a businessman, we do time studies in my business every day, whether it's a product.

00:19:47.420 You do time studies, how long it would take and what's the best process to use.

00:19:51.360 And, in fact, we've done a study with our paper ballots now going, okay, if we did this and hand counted and with the paper, all you'd have to do with your France system or anybody, you just add a few more people.

00:20:09.980 You're adding more people.

00:20:11.360 It's all relevant.

00:20:12.220 So let's say there's 150 million people in the U.S., you just double what you do in France.

00:20:18.500 So if you have six people doing this many, you know, you add more people so you get it done before midnight here, you know, that you guys have proven that you are a great prototype example to the world and that this is the best way.

00:20:33.440 Number one, I want to say this, even if it took two days, what if it even took two days?

00:20:40.280 Is that better to have people to trust a paper and to count accurate counts than to sit here?

00:20:49.000 And we still don't.

00:20:50.180 We still, for months, for years now, we still have it with the audits and whatever, and we're going, okay, when this machine, even to do an audit, if they ever let you do one, it takes months and months and months.

00:21:07.560 Or if you're doing a count, nobody trusts them anymore.

00:21:10.280 Nobody trusts them anymore.

00:21:11.320 So there is only one solution.

00:21:14.120 And I just think it's great that we've got.

00:21:18.440 And, Mike, it makes the people doubt.

00:21:20.760 Yeah, and you get rid of the doubt.

00:21:22.180 It makes the people doubt.

00:21:23.420 We're at a point in the United States right now, we're at an apex in history.

00:21:27.100 If we don't go to paper and hand count on cameras, it's over.

00:21:32.020 Machines are, they've stole our elections.

00:21:34.860 Do you know that just a month ago, in May 24th, three Democrats in Georgia, the one lady, it was three Democrats running.

00:21:43.500 The one gal and her husband, nice lady, she only got, or she got zero votes. 1.00

00:21:48.380 Zero.

00:21:48.720 So they looked into the machines, what a concept, said, oh, there was an error, a programming error.

00:21:54.760 She really got 3,700 and some.

00:21:57.360 She went from third to first. 0.79

00:21:59.320 People do not trust.

00:22:00.900 I don't care if you're a Democrat, Republican in this country.

00:22:04.300 The people don't trust the machines and the election, whether it was 2020 or anything after that.

00:22:10.180 They're never going to get the trust back unless we go to a paper where you can see on camera the hand count.

00:22:18.400 That brings the trust back, and that saves our country.

00:22:22.880 We have to have a new common sense book telling the people that this is common sense to go back to the paper ballot.

00:22:30.360 And, you know, the other thing that is quite interesting is also, as you mentioned, you need a lot of hands to be able to look at those, to count the ballots.

00:22:38.740 But during the day, in a polling station, you have a chairman of the polling station, and you can ask citizens that are coming to vote if they want to be part of the process.

00:22:49.080 And a lot of people are very happy to be part of the process, and they will sign their name.

00:22:54.460 They are voters in the polling station at night.

00:22:57.000 They are allowed to come in and count the votes.

00:23:00.360 So it makes it even more transparent, and people get involved, and when they get involved, they tend to vote.

00:23:06.900 Right, and people are working together.

00:23:09.060 That's a good point you're making there because in this next election in 2022, people are going to come out in droves to be poll watchers just to watch.

00:23:20.680 Well, you can't watch a machine.

00:23:22.440 You don't know what's going on inside it.

00:23:24.300 You can sit and stare at that machine and just stare and go, I've seen it move.

00:23:30.600 No, you don't know what's going on.

00:23:32.160 So when we don't have machines, all these people that we're going to stare at them on the top of a machine, they can sit there and help.

00:23:40.220 And there's volunteers.

00:23:41.240 They will help take the ballot, go along.

00:23:43.920 Here it is.

00:23:45.540 And you're going along, and they're the ones that can do the hand count.

00:23:48.980 And it's very – because we're going to put them on cameras, live stream and on camera, where you can see.

00:23:55.960 Here's the votes.

00:23:57.260 And that is also the audit.

00:23:59.420 When you do in France, what if you had to do an audit?

00:24:03.060 Do you just recount, do a complete recount, hand recount?

00:24:06.100 Or is it on camera?

00:24:07.340 Yes, we do.

00:24:07.480 No, we don't have on camera.

00:24:10.620 It is not filmed.

00:24:11.540 What we do is recount them.

00:24:12.940 So at the end of the night, you can request a recount depending on the gap between the candidates.

00:24:19.260 Right, right.

00:24:19.900 And then there is a global recount.

00:24:22.440 But again, a polling station doesn't have many people in it.

00:24:25.720 So the maximum will be 1,200 people in a polling station.

00:24:29.300 You have 60% of people coming in.

00:24:31.240 So you might have 700 votes.

00:24:33.420 So 700 ballots to count is not that much.

00:24:35.660 You can do it pretty fast.

00:24:37.980 You make four tables.

00:24:39.660 You divide it.

00:24:40.240 And you have people counting and recounting them.

00:24:42.680 And then what we do is after – once the elections are proclaimed, everything is burnt.

00:24:49.040 Everything is destroyed.

00:24:50.580 But there is no doubt in our electoral system.

00:24:53.740 People never doubt the election.

00:24:55.940 So there might be some contention when there is a couple of ballots that are missing

00:25:02.980 because the gap is only four, five, ten ballots.

00:25:07.600 And you see that the signature – you can contest the signature of the person that came saying

00:25:11.500 he was maybe not the right person to vote.

00:25:14.900 But it is very, very quickly dealt with by the justice system.

00:25:18.800 And basically, we have – it never becomes a political issue.

00:25:24.180 It makes it sound like you have – you know, that's – you know, to have – it's the perfect prototype to have trust.

00:25:32.160 And the people have trust.

00:25:34.040 Now, both parties or whatever parties you have over there, I don't know how it works, but they're all –

00:25:40.200 We have a lot.

00:25:41.460 You have what?

00:25:43.440 A lot.

00:25:44.160 Many parties.

00:25:44.840 We have multiple parties.

00:25:45.720 So they're all – and they're all in.

00:25:47.200 They're represented, right?

00:25:48.340 All being part of it.

00:25:49.440 So you're working together with your neighbor.

00:25:51.200 There's not this political divide, which we have here in the U.S., this political divide.

00:25:56.920 Actually, it's not – you know, and I've said it's not even really a political divide.

00:26:01.380 You have this corrupt uniparty here that has done – where it's exposed itself.

00:26:06.200 But then you're going, okay, the bad people, whether they're the Democrat Party or whether they're these Republicans that we've caught here, like your Brad Ratsenberg, going – working against the people.

00:26:20.780 So the only way you can bring that back is the transparency of paper.

00:26:24.900 But then it's in there to meet everybody.

00:26:27.780 You have to have people allowed in there to meet the one county.

00:26:31.760 Normal people.

00:26:32.480 Mike, we'll come back right after a short commercial break.

00:26:36.780 Thank you.

00:26:37.380 And our thanks to Miguel Marquez for that reporting.

00:27:02.100 A quick programming note, join CNN's Drew Griffin for a new investigation into Steve Bannon and his master plan to reshape the U.S. government and the Republican Party and, indeed, the United States.

00:27:13.840 The CNN special report, Steve Bannon, Divided We Fall, begins at 8 p.m. Eastern on Sunday evening.

00:27:20.600 Okay, welcome back.

00:27:22.300 You're in the war room.

00:27:23.460 It's 16 July, Year of Our Lord, Saturday, 16 July, Year of Our Lord, 2022.

00:27:27.820 I had to jump back in here.

00:27:29.060 Jerome was doing such a good job.

00:27:31.880 I was afraid it's like Lou Gehrig, Wally Pipp.

00:27:34.780 I felt like Wally Pipp is going to have a guy replace you and then he takes the job full time.

00:27:39.540 Yeah, I took over your chair.

00:27:40.800 And the beautiful cross reminds me of my office at the European Parliament.

00:27:44.200 I know that upsets him.

00:27:45.360 We'll get into that in a second.

00:27:46.200 I know, Mike, you've got to bounce.

00:27:47.940 Mike Lindell, the French have a system we have to go to. 1.00

00:27:51.640 Earlier in the week, you've been fighting this.

00:27:53.260 I think you have a court date next week to fight it more to take the machines out. 0.51

00:27:57.040 Before you bounce, can you just give the audience a summary?

00:28:00.660 We want to go to the French system.

00:28:02.660 You want to start by taking the machines out first.

00:28:05.380 Where do we stand and how much can we really bank on that for this fall, sir?

00:28:10.200 Steve, no, it's doing both the same time.

00:28:12.640 We have the paper.

00:28:13.560 It's part of our injunctions.

00:28:17.880 Here's your replacement system.

00:28:19.800 And it is using France's system.

00:28:23.220 But we've just added cameras to it so that you can live stream.

00:28:26.980 So your hand count becomes your audit.

00:28:29.500 The people in our country, Steve, they don't trust anything anymore.

00:28:33.220 Probably not even a hand count unless they can see it with their eyes.

00:28:36.500 So this is the world of cameras.

00:28:38.960 You have a camera with a live stream and you're watching.

00:28:41.340 This one, two, three, a very simple.

00:28:44.460 That is your audit also.

00:28:47.080 So if anybody questions it, you can just rewind the tape.

00:28:50.280 But great news, everybody.

00:28:51.980 This first preliminary injunction, remember I've said the judges are going to help this

00:28:58.200 country.

00:28:58.900 I'm telling you, this judge made a great ruling.

00:29:01.640 It's historical.

00:29:03.000 I'm going to look at the evidence.

00:29:05.180 On July 21st, I got a plane load of lawyers, cyber guys, experts.

00:29:11.340 Flying into Arizona, Carrie Lake for her and Mark Fincham, they were the plaintiffs.

00:29:16.860 They're so happy because this judge is going to look at it and say, what?

00:29:22.920 This is what really happened in Arizona?

00:29:26.700 Goodbye.

00:29:27.500 Boom.

00:29:27.800 We should get rid of these machines tomorrow.

00:29:30.120 Steve, do you think?

00:29:31.260 I want to ask you this.

00:29:32.540 Do you think Fox or Newsmax or Salem Media are going to report today?

00:29:37.440 Because I'm going to be on them going, hey, did you know this is coming up?

00:29:40.880 This is news.

00:29:41.800 This is historical news.

00:29:43.680 And, you know, that's my question there.

00:29:45.580 But I asked you another question.

00:29:47.500 In Wisconsin, where they ruled, the Supreme Court of Wisconsin ruled that it was an illegal

00:29:52.760 election.

00:29:54.080 Did anybody see that on Fox or Newsmax or Salem Media?

00:29:58.180 The answer is no.

00:29:59.260 So it's, you know, we got to win this with the judges.

00:30:03.060 Thank God for this judge.

00:30:04.560 He's going to open it up.

00:30:06.020 And yes, Steve, by this next, by this fall, I don't know how many states we're going one

00:30:11.240 by one.

00:30:12.280 Alabama, Minnesota, Wisconsin, Florida, Texas.

00:30:16.080 It just keeps going.

00:30:17.100 But we're very, my lawyer, everybody on the team, everybody is just ecstatic going, wow,

00:30:22.060 this is going to move pretty fast.

00:30:23.580 Now, once you see the evidence and all this stuff, this judge, you know, whatever he does,

00:30:29.880 we don't know.

00:30:31.040 But once you see it, what I've seen and know what I know, when you see this, what went on

00:30:35.940 with the machines, you know, it's a common sense thing.

00:30:40.420 You've got to get rid of them.

00:30:41.880 We don't have a choice.

00:30:42.800 We got to go France.

00:30:44.180 We're going to call it.

00:30:44.800 We need to go France.

00:30:45.860 That'll be the new slogan.

00:30:47.220 Don't go Fox on us.

00:30:48.700 Go France. 0.84

00:30:49.400 Mike, I know you're incredibly busy.

00:30:54.640 We're going to do wall-to-wall coverage on the 21st of your hearing out there.

00:30:59.260 The first time, really, we get to adjudicate this in a formal legal setting where Mike Lindell

00:31:03.920 and the team, and by the way, Mike has sacrificed.

00:31:05.900 People in the audience should understand Mike Lindell sacrificed so much, so much of his

00:31:09.160 business, so much personally.

00:31:11.280 They've attacked him.

00:31:12.180 All the big box stores kicked him out.

00:31:13.640 That's one of the reasons we're so prominent now with MyPillow is because they pulled him

00:31:19.140 out of Walmart.

00:31:19.780 They pulled him out of the big box.

00:31:20.880 And, Mike, here's what I think the nation owes you and the MAGA movement and our audience.

00:31:25.840 You have never wavered.

00:31:26.960 I tell people, I talk to this guy at 3 o'clock in the morning, and he's getting off a plane

00:31:30.600 somewhere in some other obscure county to go fight, to fight for the transparency of 2020.

00:31:37.500 And particularly, what your crusade is, is that whether you believe in the machines

00:31:41.240 or not, you've said, hey, let's go to the French system.

00:31:43.780 Let's go to a modified French system where it's paper ballots.

00:31:46.780 You count them all in one day, and by 9 or 10 o'clock at night, you know what the answer

00:31:50.800 is.

00:31:51.000 You don't go to sleep.

00:31:52.060 And if France can do it, the United States can do it.

00:31:54.800 And I think you've done such a great job of pursuing this, and it's a model we have to

00:31:58.820 go to.

00:31:59.340 So I know you've got to bounce, but I want to thank you.

00:32:01.660 How do people get to your TV show and all of your content, particularly in this upcoming

00:32:06.500 week, where they're going to want to follow Mike Lindell nonstop?

00:32:09.800 Because quite frankly, you've got this court date that's going to be absolutely huge about

00:32:16.080 the first time you get to present all the, with the technology people, Kerry Lake, Mark

00:32:20.600 Fincham, all the cyber experts you've brought in to really go through with a judge and go

00:32:27.020 through this injunction about stopping the machines.

00:32:29.840 Mike Lindell.

00:32:30.920 Right.

00:32:31.340 Yeah.

00:32:31.580 Frank's speech, everybody.

00:32:32.620 Go to the app store, Frank's speech, and get that and watch all of us every day with

00:32:38.580 the evidence is all there.

00:32:39.740 It's a one-stop shop.

00:32:41.520 You need to get there and get the word out about Frank's speech.

00:32:45.180 If you're going to help me, that's what we need to do.

00:32:47.800 Steve, just so you know, the newspapers in our country, they've all turned down my ad

00:32:52.960 to get people to Frank's speech, to tell them about this network, the Lindell TV, the

00:32:58.360 newspapers shut it down.

00:32:59.860 They don't want the truth to get out.

00:33:02.300 And they, and we've got the, this is all leading up to the biggest event, the most historical

00:33:07.200 event this country's ever seen.

00:33:09.600 And I'm saying that because I really, truly believe it.

00:33:12.820 August 20th and 21st, it'll be live streamed to the world.

00:33:17.380 I want it to be as big or bigger than Elvis Presley.

00:33:20.320 Hello from Hawaii, because it's the most important info that's going to come out of this to help

00:33:26.360 save our country.

00:33:27.080 It's going to be amazing.

00:33:30.100 Mike, we're going to be there.

00:33:31.200 We're going to be there live when we do that.

00:33:32.940 It's going to be a three-day.

00:33:34.120 It's going to be amazing in the middle of August on the 21st.

00:33:37.520 Mike, thank you so much.

00:33:38.660 Honored to have you join us.

00:33:40.000 Thank you, sir.

00:33:40.980 Thanks, you guys.

00:33:41.940 God bless.

00:33:42.440 See you.

00:33:43.420 That's a patriot.

00:33:44.620 When you talk about, when you talk about this movement globally, Jerome, you talk about

00:33:49.060 patriots and you talk about sovereignty, right?

00:33:51.040 Yeah.

00:33:51.220 That's Lindell.

00:33:52.340 When we finally get to the system, I don't know if you understand how big a role you've

00:33:56.860 had in this, because I know you've come on here and talked about it, but we're obsessed

00:34:00.540 with this model because you guys are 80 million people and you get it done with so effortlessly.

00:34:07.680 That's why everybody says you have to have the machines.

00:34:09.560 You have the machines.

00:34:09.880 Machines are so complicated.

00:34:11.220 Yeah, but you need people like Mike, as you said, dedicated and being able to go from

00:34:16.200 county to county.

00:34:17.420 And he's improving his idea of having it live, a live stream of the counting is a great idea.

00:34:22.880 I think that France could benefit from that, too, because it makes the people participate

00:34:27.500 in the electoral process.

00:34:28.960 So I think it also creates a desire to be part of the electoral process.

00:34:33.660 People will go and vote.

00:34:34.920 The turnout will be better because they will see that this is something physical.

00:34:39.540 There is a ballot there instead of just some kind of digits.

00:34:43.700 We got a little bit remaining in this block and then the next block I want to make sure

00:34:47.640 we go to.

00:34:48.720 I got to cover the Ukraine.

00:34:50.520 Give us your perspective.

00:34:51.440 European member parliament, formerly Front National, the right, I don't want to say right

00:34:57.560 wing, but not the far right wing, but the right wing part.

00:34:59.960 You're now in Zamora's party.

00:35:01.820 Give the American audience your assessment, unbridled assessment of the situation in the Ukraine.

00:35:09.540 I feel that we have gone into the footsteps of the Biden's policies without thinking of

00:35:16.660 the consequences for Europe and specifically for France.

00:35:20.380 France has had a long, long relationship with with Russia.

00:35:23.980 And we decided Macron decided to destroy fully this relationship at the request or at the demand

00:35:30.100 of the Biden administration.

00:35:31.960 That was you guys in France.

00:35:33.560 You guys say that this was U.S. driven.

00:35:35.360 Yes, this is fully U.S. driven.

00:35:36.920 This is there is nothing else but a Biden drive.

00:35:40.900 I'd rather say a Biden drive than a U.S. drive, because I don't believe that there is a consensus

00:35:46.160 in the United States around this subject.

00:35:48.780 But, you know, the United States for France is a friendly country and an allied country.

00:35:55.000 Russia is a partner.

00:35:56.020 It's not a friend.

00:35:56.880 It's not an ally.

00:35:57.460 But it is a partner.

00:35:58.480 We live on the same continent.

00:35:59.740 We have strong trade tides.

00:36:01.700 And we share a common civilization.

00:36:04.060 This is a with a Christian background.

00:36:07.400 So we cannot decide suddenly to alienate them the way we have done it.

00:36:12.520 Plus, we alienate them for reasons that are quite obscure, because I've had the opportunity

00:36:19.180 to go several times to Ukraine and to Russia.

00:36:21.840 I used to be a member of the NATO Parliamentary Assembly, and I was a member of the Ukraine-NATO

00:36:28.220 and the Russia-NATO committees.

00:36:29.660 Oh, so you know this area quite well.

00:36:31.040 Yes, I know them quite well.

00:36:32.520 And I can tell you that Ukraine was a very, very, very corrupt country. 0.65

00:36:38.880 I met a lot of corrupt. 1.00

00:36:41.980 Corrupt, corrupt, corrupt. 1.00

00:36:42.780 Corruption is endemic over there. 0.79

00:36:44.080 Well, it's the third-ranked corrupted country in the world, according to the assessment this time.

00:36:48.640 And you can tell when you meet a member of the Parliament over there, all they were talking about was money,

00:36:54.340 how they were making money depending on the committee where they were.

00:36:58.460 I remember a member telling me that he was in the Energy Committee, and he was very happy

00:37:03.440 because he was making more money with the bribes he was getting than being on the Transport Committee.

00:37:08.840 So this is what I witnessed firsthand.

00:37:11.000 So I have very many doubts on the fact that we are fighting because Ukraine is an emblematic democracy.

00:37:18.360 It is not.

00:37:19.020 In fact, what the Biden administration is doing, and Europe is going in the footsteps of this administration,

00:37:26.360 is pushing Russia outside its comfort zone and backing it into a place where the reaction might be swift and dangerous for Europe. 0.75

00:37:36.600 You don't care very much here because you are far away, and the fallbacks will be for the European citizens. 0.99

00:37:43.460 You mentioned earlier with Ben, you were talking about the weapons.

00:37:46.840 Yes, I believe, and we know now from the Financial Times, that some of the weapons that we're providing,

00:37:53.720 whether it be U.S. weapons or French weapons that we're providing to Ukraine, are going to the black market

00:38:00.360 and will be sold to either terrorists or to gangsters that are roaming the streets of the Western world.

00:38:08.160 And this is something I cannot feel comfortable with.

00:38:10.720 This is something that the European leaders should not feel comfortable with.

00:38:15.500 But this comes in the globalist agenda, and the globalist leaders, and Biden is definitely one of those leaders,

00:38:21.800 have decided that this is what they want to do.

00:38:24.340 They want to kick Russia out of the game.

00:38:26.100 But the truth is, Steve, is right now, when we believe that from the European perspective,

00:38:31.220 that we are pushing Russia outside as an outcast. 0.77

00:38:34.740 In fact, we are outcasting ourselves.

00:38:36.880 Russia is talking to China.

00:38:38.360 Russia is talking to Africa. 0.91

00:38:39.880 Russia is talking to South America. 0.69

00:38:41.620 Russia is having discussion and trade agreement with the rest of the world, but Europe.

00:38:46.860 And one day the United States will wake up and be like, oh, you know, it's a big partner.

00:38:50.780 We're going to do something. 0.99

00:38:51.920 And the people that are going to be the fools are going to be the Europeans. 1.00

00:38:55.120 Is this, let me play devil's advocate here. 0.99

00:38:57.580 They always say that the Front National National Rally is because you guys are so right-wing,

00:39:02.320 you're attracted to the fascists, and that's why you like the strong man of Putin.

00:39:07.280 What's your answer?

00:39:08.140 Macron is more the cosmopolitan, you know, the sophisticates.

00:39:12.880 What's your answer to that?

00:39:14.200 That this is not the case.

00:39:16.320 Definitely Putin is a way of ruling this country,

00:39:22.300 which is not compatible with our democratic values.

00:39:26.940 Yes.

00:39:27.260 Would I want Putin as a leader of France?

00:39:29.560 No.

00:39:30.080 But do I want him as a leader of Russia?

00:39:32.120 Yes, because he's taking care of his country.

00:39:34.000 I have the opportunity to meet a lot of Russian politicians. 0.96

00:39:37.020 And I can tell you that some of them are definitely lunatics that would launch action against us, 0.96

00:39:43.580 that would be way more dangerous than Putin. 0.93

00:39:45.520 Putin is a rational man that we can talk with.

00:39:48.760 And he's the choice of his people.

00:39:51.040 So I don't like the fact that...

00:39:52.620 Do you think they have free and fair elections in Russia when he wins, what, 90% of the vote?

00:39:57.000 I believe that it is free and fair, as in many other countries.

00:40:02.020 I do know, Steve, you are looking at me and you know what you are thinking about.

00:40:06.400 So I don't think we can talk about free and fair election and doubting everybody else's system.

00:40:11.300 I'm talking about my system.

00:40:12.560 And I respect the Russian system as the Russians.

00:40:15.240 Let's take a short commercial break.

00:40:16.540 We're back to wrap up with Jerome Revere.

00:40:18.740 He's been nice enough to carve out some time today to join us.

00:40:21.200 I think you're hearing a voice that, unfortunately, is not heard enough.

00:40:25.960 The voice of the conservative part of Europe that has not been taking into consideration here

00:40:32.020 of exactly what's going on and what is called how to win the long war,

00:40:36.420 is what The Economist, the tip sheet for the party of Davos,

00:40:40.680 and their recommendation is that we start to grind up the Russian military and go in and combat it,

00:40:46.060 take all that territory back on the eastern Russian-speaking border of Ukraine.

00:40:49.260 And I don't think that's going to happen.

00:40:52.340 So we're giving you another alternative.

00:40:53.640 Short commercial break.

00:40:54.320 Back in mind.

00:40:59.960 And our thanks to Miguel Marquez for that reporting.

00:41:02.140 A quick programming note.

00:41:03.960 Join CNN's Drew Griffin for a new investigation into Steve Bannon

00:41:08.060 and his master plan to reshape the U.S. government and the Republican Party

00:41:11.620 and, indeed, the United States.

00:41:13.860 The CNN special report, Steve Bannon, Divided We Fall,

00:41:17.100 begins at 8 p.m. Eastern on Sunday evening.

00:41:20.240 Okay, welcome back.

00:41:21.640 I want to make sure everybody watches that CNN special.

00:41:23.540 Tell me what you think.

00:41:24.540 Maybe we'll watch it, too.

00:41:25.800 I don't know.

00:41:26.300 We'll have to decide.

00:41:27.920 Jerome Revere, you're a member of the European Parliament.

00:41:31.840 What would you like the American audience?

00:41:34.060 We've got a couple of minutes here before we wrap up.

00:41:35.920 What would you like the American audience to understand about this Ukraine war

00:41:41.580 that you don't think they're hearing from the way it's being spun right now?

00:41:45.500 What should be our takeaway, or how should we start to think about it?

00:41:49.260 I mean, we've been very adamant from the beginning that the Biden administration's escalatory policies

00:41:55.360 have driven this and made it a bigger conflict than it had to be.

00:42:00.460 But what would you like the American audience to know, given your understanding of Ukraine?

00:42:04.060 Is Ukraine, because they say it's like a cradle of democracy, the way it's been positioned here.

00:42:09.100 Do people in Europe consider that a joke?

00:42:11.340 They know how corrupt it is?

00:42:12.220 It's a joke.

00:42:12.840 It is a joke.

00:42:14.100 We had a couple of ministers from Ukraine coming in.

00:42:18.180 You know from the way they talk, the way they look, and from their past history that they are not great democrats.

00:42:25.160 I think that we have to remember history in order to understand what's going on right now.

00:42:29.300 We make promises.

00:42:30.700 When I say we, I'm talking about the free world, the way it was when we had to face communism,

00:42:37.560 when we were fighting against USSR, when together we defeated USSR with the collapse of USSR,

00:42:44.560 we told the Russian people, we told the Russian leadership, look, we understand we are not going to push NATO all the way to the Russian border.

00:42:53.640 We understand that you need some space because we respect you as a nation.

00:42:58.700 We hated USSR.

00:43:00.260 We despised the communists.

00:43:01.860 We fought them and we won.

00:43:03.560 But we never said to the Russians, look, we are going to crush Russia.

00:43:06.020 You have to remember in 62, when the USSR brought missiles into Cuba, you had the right, as Americans, to say we don't want such missiles at our borders.

00:43:16.320 Right now, what we are doing and what the Biden administration is pushing by asking Ukraine to become a NATO member

00:43:23.020 is the possibility to put nuclear missiles, American nuclear missiles, in Ukraine at the border of Russia.

00:43:29.800 It is something that is not acceptable, first of all, because Russia is a large country and they don't want such a threat. 0.91

00:43:37.080 Second of all, we are breaking our promises.

00:43:39.920 We told them we would not do that.

00:43:41.920 And I don't see the point.

00:43:44.140 There is no security threat that will be taken by nuclear missiles in Ukraine.

00:43:50.100 So it is a standing just to make provocation against the Russian government.

00:43:55.640 I think that we have to tell Russia that Ukraine has to be a free country.

00:44:00.000 We have to tell them, look, we want Ukraine to be a free country.

00:44:02.280 But we also have to provide them with our security.

00:44:04.940 So we need an international conference.

00:44:07.260 This is what is lacking since the collapse of the Soviet Union.

00:44:11.420 We never have had an international conference bringing all the parties together, deciding and talking about what the problems are and how we solve them.

00:44:19.920 It is still we still have a possibility via diplomatic reasoning to end up this war.

00:44:28.660 But we need to make concession.

00:44:30.200 Both sides will need to make concession.

00:44:32.340 Russia will need to acknowledge that Ukraine is a country and that as a country they can decide about their fate.

00:44:38.140 But we have to tell them, look, we understand they will not be part of the European Union and they will not be part of the NATO.

00:44:44.100 How can you put that, Jeannie, back in the bottle when the EU has already said, let's start the process and they've said in Ukraine, at least the leadership is saying we want to be part of the EU.

00:44:52.500 How do you reverse that?

00:44:53.960 This is why we have election and this is why with Marine Le Pen and Eric Demour.

00:44:57.420 Oh, you think you think you think you're a change.

00:44:59.760 You think you have to change governments in Germany and France and other places?

00:45:02.380 Definitely, you have to have populist patriotic government in those countries that say, look, we know what is good for our countries.

00:45:08.980 It is not good for our countries.

00:45:10.640 The French agriculture is deeply penalized by the fact that we cannot export agricultural product to Russia.

00:45:16.660 So it is hurting our agriculture.

00:45:18.800 It is hurting our industries.

00:45:20.480 This is not good for the French citizen at all.

00:45:22.880 Talk about natural gas.

00:45:25.100 How did they get into this war not understanding the second and third level problems you were going to have with both food, wheat, but particularly natural gas?

00:45:33.580 How did Germany particularly get caught up in this?

00:45:36.060 And now you're seeing about a cold, bitter winter in particularly Italy and Germany and other countries, maybe not so much France, given your nuclear power industry.

00:45:47.280 But what about the natural gas?

00:45:48.700 Yes, it is not understandable how a political leader can make such drastic decisions. 0.98

00:45:54.580 It's ridiculous. 0.99

00:45:55.140 It is ridiculous. 0.99

00:45:56.180 It is it is against the interest of the country. 0.84

00:45:58.540 It is against the interest of their industry.

00:46:00.600 I don't know how the German industry and the Germans are very proud of their strong industry.

00:46:04.780 How the German industry is going to resist to such lack of electricity this this winter.

00:46:10.320 So I don't ask me to explain because I don't understand.

00:46:13.280 It doesn't make any sense.

00:46:15.240 So the German people are going to suffer. 0.96

00:46:16.980 The German industry is going to suffer.

00:46:18.700 But and honestly, on a cynical viewpoint, it is very good for the United States because you installed the Biden administration, installed fear in some of the European governments.

00:46:31.780 So as we are talking about increasing the defense budget in various European nations, the first thing they do is spend it on the defense industry in the United States.

00:46:42.340 So this is not what I want.

00:46:43.820 I want to be a good friend and ally of the United States, but I want to be myself.

00:46:47.880 I want France to be France. 0.91

00:46:49.340 I want to have my own defense industry and I want to be able to to buy it by to buy my own weapon system in order to fight my own fights.

00:46:57.880 I don't want to be on the leash of a US administration that is specifically targeted towards implementing a globalist agenda that I fight in France.

00:47:11.320 Jerome is a member of the European Parliament.

00:47:15.020 I want to thank you so much for coming here.

00:47:16.120 Make sure you watch the CNN special on Sunday night.

00:47:19.400 Also, I'll be up on Getter obviously all weekend putting up news and analysis.

00:47:24.660 How do people get to you?

00:47:25.600 You're on Getter.

00:47:26.300 You're also on Truth Social.

00:47:27.240 How do people get to you?

00:47:28.000 Yeah, the handle is at Jerome, J-E-R-O-M-E underscore Riviere, R-I-V-I-E-R-E.

00:47:37.600 You had a real star turn on the show the other day, so I really want to thank you for coming in.

00:47:42.260 Thank you for having me.

00:47:43.460 There's a rally today.

00:47:45.940 Real America's Voice is going to be all over that.

00:47:48.380 I want to thank you.

00:47:49.300 We're going to have this show up and hopefully play it multiple times on the weekend.

00:47:52.860 Remember, I'll be on Getter all weekend.

00:47:55.020 I'm putting up news and analysis.

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00:48:08.080 I think you probably heard it in the war room, so you'll be able to see what went on.

00:48:11.380 I really want to thank everybody in Real America's Voice, particularly in Denver and the team in Washington, D.C., for helping us put this on today.

00:48:19.640 I want to thank Mike Lindell and Ben Harnwell for doing this.

00:48:22.340 Of course, our crack team here until Monday morning.

00:48:24.840 And you can get us on Getter live over the weekend, particularly during the CNN situation.

00:48:29.220 I want to thank everybody for our special The Long War, How to Really Win It.

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00:48:35.240 It's the war room way.

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Bannon's War Room - July 16, 2022

Episode 2008： How To Win The Long War： The War Room Solution Cont.

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