Bannon's War Room - July 18, 2022


Episode_2010： The Elites Fear The Precinct Project; The Left Doesn't Care About Your Safety; Dr. Birx： 'We're Hoping' The Lockdowns & Vaccines Would Work


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Stephen K. Bannon has a plan to take over the Republican Party and the United States. It s called the Precinct Strategy, and it s based on a plan that Bannon has been working on for years: get good people into politics.

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00:00:00.000 Well, the virus has now killed more than 100 people in China,
00:00:03.100 and new cases have been confirmed around the world.
00:00:05.600 So you don't want to frighten the American public.
00:00:07.880 France and South Korea have also got evacuation plans.
00:00:10.580 But you need to prepare for and assume...
00:00:13.700 ...broadly warning Americans to avoid all non-essential travel to China.
00:00:17.940 ...that this is going to be a real serious problem.
00:00:19.960 France, Australia, Canada, the U.S., Singapore, Cambodia, Vietnam, the list goes on.
00:00:24.400 Health officials are investigating more than 100 possible cases in the U.S.
00:00:28.440 Germany, a man has contracted the virus.
00:00:31.860 The epidemic is a demon, and we cannot let this demon hide.
00:00:35.320 Japan, where a bus driver contracted the virus.
00:00:38.620 Coronavirus has killed more than 100 people there and infected more than 4,500.
00:00:44.500 We have to prepare for the worst, always.
00:00:47.280 Because if you don't, then the worst happens.
00:00:50.740 War Room. Pandemic.
00:00:52.960 Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.
00:00:55.280 These three women, and millions like them, are what Bannon hopes is the future of the Republican Party and the United States. 0.67
00:01:05.980 Bannon calls it the precinct strategy.
00:01:08.460 Ergo, we're going to take over everything from school boards all the way up to the House and the Senate.
00:01:13.520 He is really talking about, from the ground up, remaking a party that is a Trump-loyal, MAGA-loyal kind of party.
00:01:22.060 Okay, I want to start with Dan Schultz, precinct strategy.
00:01:25.100 The precinct strategy's author is a Bannon regular, Dan Schultz, a local Arizona attorney.
00:01:31.020 If we conservatives don't take over the Republican Party, we're going to lose our republic.
00:01:37.240 President Trump comes out and endorses the precinct strategy.
00:01:40.100 His step-by-step tutorial for taking over Republican politics is now considered almost gospel, inspiring thousands of believers in the election lie to get involved.
00:01:51.140 GOP leaders in more than 20 counties, in mostly battleground states, told CNN they've seen a spike in participation.
00:01:58.800 The precinct committee strategy, that's the first thing.
00:02:01.000 Dan Schultz, I'm like, oh my gosh, I'm calling everybody I know.
00:02:04.840 Did you even know that we had a precinct in my neighborhood?
00:02:07.100 I'm the committee person now.
00:02:09.260 You know, just feeling like, hey, I'm actually doing something.
00:02:14.500 They are all doing something because of Bannon.
00:02:18.520 They're all doing something because of Bannon.
00:02:22.060 Dan, Dan, Dan.
00:02:23.540 I actually like this.
00:02:24.920 I would go back and recommend that everybody watch this thing.
00:02:27.800 Because we were going to lead the show with this, but we had to get the star on, Mr. Dan Schultz himself, to actually be able to respond.
00:02:36.040 Dan couldn't join us until the second hour, so we're going to lead the second hour with it.
00:02:40.000 But it's like, is it not what I said?
00:02:42.680 This is just playing the greatest hits of War Room and putting ominous music on top of it.
00:02:48.100 And Sarah Murray there from CNN.
00:02:49.800 Oh, boy.
00:02:50.660 Sarah Murray.
00:02:51.120 I remember her when I used to be in the White House Correspondence Room and Sean Spicer or Sarah Sanders would be talking and she'd just be sitting there swiping Instagram all day long and then listening to whatever comes in over her earpiece.
00:03:02.340 So, sorry, Sarah.
00:03:03.360 Sorry to the other people in the White House Correspondence Room.
00:03:06.160 But we know that's basically the level of your reporting, the level of what you're actually doing.
00:03:11.040 Here in the War Room, it's about action.
00:03:12.940 Here in the War Room, it's actually about doing something.
00:03:15.900 So, I want to read, do we have Dan?
00:03:18.140 Mr. Dan Schultz, the star turn.
00:03:22.160 Amazing.
00:03:22.860 How did you feel about your portrayal?
00:03:24.680 Apparently, you are the man that is somehow taking down democracy by participating in democracy, if I have this correct.
00:03:35.160 Yeah, it was interesting because I thought Ben Ginsberg hit the nail on the head.
00:03:41.640 And because he said, there's nothing wrong with participating in politics as long as you do it fairly and nicely.
00:03:54.000 And, you know, it's basic American civics, participatory democracy, whatever term you want to use.
00:04:00.700 And that's all that the precinct committeeman strategy is.
00:04:03.780 It's an attempt to get good, decent Americans into our party.
00:04:11.300 And that's the best thing to do is to get into our party.
00:04:16.160 Not too long ago, somebody on War Room said, oh, the thing to do is just join a group.
00:04:25.900 Well, the best group to join is the Republican Party where you live.
00:04:29.740 And that's, you know, you hit so many birds with one stone when you do it because you're not only are you in the best position to get out the vote for the candidates that you like, but you're also part of the apparatus of the party and you're able to change the party from within.
00:04:48.180 And it's there for the changing because over half of these slots on average, wherever you happen to be, are vacant.
00:04:55.720 That's exactly right.
00:04:56.860 I can remember even being younger, just growing up outside the Philadelphia area and, you know, getting involved and understanding at the local level, the power of the precinct, but then the local committee.
00:05:08.860 And then that flows all the way up through the county and then eventually you get your state parties and the state delegates and they actually wield some serious power over the state party itself.
00:05:17.920 They can choose the state chairman and now you're talking money, right?
00:05:20.160 Now you're talking who actually controls, you know, which candidates get the backing when it comes to some of these primaries.
00:05:25.660 A lot of this goes on.
00:05:26.860 Of course, my background is more Pennsylvania in terms of that.
00:05:30.340 But you see these exact same dynamic play out across the country.
00:05:33.280 And you really do want to take back the party.
00:05:35.600 It's got to be from the precinct level.
00:05:37.420 And we actually did see a considerable amount of this back during the Tea Party days, which I did play a role in back some 10 years ago now, 10 plus years ago now, believe it or not.
00:05:47.600 And of course, we all know Steve did.
00:05:49.340 But so when, so Dan, you're going through, you're talking to people saying, hey, we need citizen, you know, citizen politicians, right?
00:05:58.380 Citizen leaders stepping up, joining the party, taking these, you know, taking these movements, taking over these actions.
00:06:05.500 You've been doing this for years now.
00:06:07.000 Now, all of a sudden, CNN turns you into some kind of boogeyman that they're portraying as if it's some horrific tragedy.
00:06:16.860 It's authoritarianism.
00:06:17.940 This is this is Orban and Putin and the return of Franco, right, because you're organizing people to run for committee men and they're in the precinct and school board.
00:06:27.480 Now, there's a committee woman, too. 1.00
00:06:28.480 Of course, every precinct has one of each.
00:06:31.080 We haven't gone down to all 56 genders yet for the committee positions, but maybe we'll be there in some point.
00:06:36.620 And of course, in New Jersey, they've got transgender women in the women's facilities impregnating other prisoners. 1.00
00:06:42.260 So so then tell me, what did it feel like to see yourself on CNN, even though I know not a lot of people watch them?
00:06:49.760 I think war room audience is probably bigger.
00:06:51.420 But what did it feel to see yourself portrayed like that?
00:06:53.420 Well, actually, I thought they did a fairly fair portrayal.
00:07:00.120 They didn't I don't I didn't think they tried to make me out as a boogeyman.
00:07:04.720 But what they did is they they fashioned the entire program that over an entire hour, eventually they were trying to show us here in the United States as being scary, like the scary people over, you know, in in Europe, which, of course, we're not, you know, it's we're the United States of America.
00:07:26.460 We're Americans.
00:07:27.880 Americans, I thought the portrayals of the the ladies that they and the women that they interviewed, I'd really like to talk to them.
00:07:36.860 I haven't had a chance to follow up with them yet, but I'd like to ask them, how are you treated by CNN?
00:07:43.420 I thought they treated them well.
00:07:46.520 I highly recommend that everybody go and read the CNN piece that they have about the documentary.
00:07:56.260 There's, you know, great tutorial videos.
00:08:01.520 There's, you know, they they make the point, for example, that every state is unique.
00:08:08.480 You know, which I try to always weave into when I get three or four or five minutes with Steve, that each state's unique.
00:08:16.500 You've got to learn the terminology because it's not called precinct committeeman in every state.
00:08:21.980 And they made and they made those distinctions.
00:08:25.240 So I thought they actually did a pretty good public service.
00:08:29.480 But of course, what they tried to do over the course of the entire hour is end with, you know, saying things about, you know, I wrote some of it down that that Steve was diabolically disingenuous and a danger to democracy.
00:08:48.620 And what are you talking about?
00:08:50.980 All we're trying to do is encourage people to get involved and engage in basic American civics.
00:08:57.100 And you can learn how to do that, of course, at my site, precinctstrategy.com.
00:09:01.080 Well, I do have a, I have a, I have a rubric for being able to translate this and it actually comes via Adrian Vermeule.
00:09:07.980 And now I don't usually make a habit of quoting Harvard professors on a regular basis, but Adrian Vermeule is a, you know, sort of the, one of the token conservatives over there at Harvard.
00:09:17.800 And he had a great line about this.
00:09:19.060 He said, he said, whenever they say democracy, they mean liberalism.
00:09:24.560 That's actually what they're talking about.
00:09:26.200 So this idea that our regime is controlled by this, this neoliberal uniparty establishment, that it really only has one option, right?
00:09:37.220 Even though we've got two flavors of that option, there really is only one option forward.
00:09:41.940 And so whenever they say there's a threat to democracy, which really has been the sort of cause du jour, the force majeure of the latest push here, what we're talking about is there's a threat to the ruling establishment.
00:09:54.080 There's a threat to the ruling class in both, and of course the political parties are the means by in which the ruling establishment establishes their power.
00:10:05.040 And so what you're doing is a direct threat to that power.
00:10:09.220 But of course, you're doing so openly and honestly and transparently and saying, yes, of course, this is a citizen-led grassroots movement.
00:10:17.860 This is the people of the war room, this is the people of the 50 states actually stepping up, saying, we want to take power back for ourselves.
00:10:25.820 We're sick of the moneyed interests, we're sick of the corporate interests.
00:10:28.360 We just want people to be able to actually run back.
00:10:32.020 I remember one of the first places I got involved in this was there was a golf course, right, in Montgomery County, Pennsylvania.
00:10:38.340 And all of the residents of the area wanted to keep the golf course there, but a hospital was trying to come in.
00:10:45.880 And what did they start doing?
00:10:46.920 They started paying off people in the committee.
00:10:48.580 They started paying off people on the local board and the zoning board.
00:10:51.780 And sure enough, guess what?
00:10:52.860 That hospital is sitting there today because that's how corporate interests run so many of these things.
00:10:58.700 And that's why you need serious citizen leaders in these positions that are actually going to look to the good of the community.
00:11:06.840 They're going to look to the good of the local area.
00:11:10.340 And to your point as well about how all 50 states are different, that's what people need to understand.
00:11:15.280 So, again, if I say something that sounds more like a Pennsylvania thing, that's because that's my background.
00:11:19.860 That's where I'm from.
00:11:20.580 That's where I've done most of my work.
00:11:21.680 That's what I know.
00:11:23.440 Yeah, right.
00:11:24.180 And, you know, like here's my little book, you know, how to get into the real ballgame of politics, where you live, help President Donald J. Trump make America great again.
00:11:33.320 I came up with that really catchy title.
00:11:36.040 Anyways, it's just seventh grade civics.
00:11:38.340 It's everything that I learned in seventh grade.
00:11:40.340 And, unfortunately, they don't teach it anymore because the progressives succeeded in getting basic American civics out of the seventh and eighth grade curriculum, by and large.
00:11:51.460 I know here in Arizona, they had succeeded in doing it.
00:11:57.280 I was able to get some of it back in.
00:11:59.500 I worked at the Department of Education a few years ago and helped, you know, slip back into the curriculum standards.
00:12:09.400 You know, things like what's a precinct committeeman and how are the electoral college members, you know, determined in Arizona?
00:12:18.280 Nobody, they weren't teaching the kids any of that stuff.
00:12:22.180 But I got taught it in seventh grade way back in 1968 and 1969 in public school back in Wisconsin.
00:12:29.260 And that's what's in my book.
00:12:30.660 It's just what I learned in seventh grade civics because I knew that they weren't teaching it anymore.
00:12:36.240 And so I've tried to put on my website at precinctstrategy.com something for every state.
00:12:44.500 I've got something there for all 50 states.
00:12:47.200 And then, yeah, there's the button connect with other conservatives in your state.
00:12:51.360 That's the communications and collaboration platform.
00:12:54.920 You click on there, you sign up, you come into the communications and collaboration platform.
00:12:59.680 Like, for example, we've got close to 1,000 people in California on that platform, 6, 7, 800 in Florida, almost 600 here in Arizona.
00:13:12.200 Get on the platform, start communicating and collaborating and learning from one another, share documents, set up chat rooms.
00:13:19.300 That's what we need to do.
00:13:20.680 My goal is to get, as soon as possible, about 300,000 America Firsters on the platform, working together to help change the party and change the outcome of the all-important, usually very low-turnout primary elections.
00:13:40.800 Well, and that is the bottom line up front, right?
00:13:44.060 Saying the quiet part out loud because CNN themselves has pinpointed this as the pain point.
00:13:50.720 This is the pain point for the regime.
00:13:53.500 This is what they're worried about.
00:13:55.000 This is why they're worried about losing influence because they realize that you have come up with a way of doing the work.
00:14:00.980 And it's the march through the institutions like the parties.
00:14:03.640 It's going to be a march to the institutions of our universities, through academia, through corporate sector, again and again, Hollywood, right?
00:14:10.420 That's what the left did.
00:14:12.180 That's what the establishment did.
00:14:13.440 They walked through all these institutions, took them over, and all we have to do is do the work.
00:14:18.380 Get down, get the dirt under your fingernails and do the work.
00:14:22.660 And that's why I appreciate so much what you're doing.
00:14:24.460 You're doing the grubby work some days, right?
00:14:26.640 There's forms, there's, you know, the filing, the notarization, right?
00:14:30.460 It is not rewarding work.
00:14:33.000 But at the end of the day, when you start to see the change, it's amazing.
00:14:35.680 Dan Schultz, thank you so much for your time today.
00:14:37.140 All right, we are coming up next.
00:14:42.420 We have Charlie Kirk.
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00:16:24.680 War Room Pandemic with Stephen K. Bannon.
00:16:28.440 The epidemic is a demon, and we cannot let this demon hide.
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00:16:49.640 I want to give a couple of shout-outs right now.
00:16:52.320 Of course, first of all, shout-out to the Real America's Voice audience.
00:16:56.780 Thank you so much for continuing to support War Room, continue to stream us.
00:17:00.400 Our next guest is actually the person who follows us.
00:17:03.560 So if you're watching on Rav, do not turn that dial, stay tuned, because Charlie Kirk comes up after.
00:17:07.800 But I also want to give a shout-out to, I just got a text message in the break,
00:17:11.800 my one-year-old, AJ, who is watching the show and apparently has been yelling Dada at the screen through the entire time.
00:17:20.080 So, hi, AJ. I'll see you soon. See you when I get home.
00:17:22.960 But I want to bring on, we're very honored to bring in here to the War Room,
00:17:27.280 Charlie Kirk, founder and president of Turning Point USA.
00:17:31.060 Charlie, we've just been having a discussion about the precinct strategy that the War Room has been putting together,
00:17:37.180 and CNN is going after this, saying,
00:17:39.620 how dare you recruit people to run for local committee man and committee woman?
00:17:43.280 How dare you recruit people for school board, running for state delegate, running for state committee man positions?
00:17:49.420 How dare? How dare the War Room posse do something like that?
00:17:52.580 How dare conservatives and America firsters?
00:17:54.540 Charlie, do you have any opinions on that? Why is CNN targeting that specifically?
00:17:59.260 Well, it's not just CNN, though, Jack.
00:18:00.780 You have to understand, the Republican Party doesn't want precinct positions to be filled.
00:18:04.280 The establishment of the Republican Party, you see, the Republican Party has a majority,
00:18:09.720 a vast majority of national precincts empty and vacant.
00:18:13.560 I'd say anywhere between 75% to 80%. That's an approximation.
00:18:17.600 But I know here in Arizona, we're not even going to have 50% of our precinct positions filled.
00:18:21.860 And something that I was always pushing President Trump to do, and I'm still going to try to get it done,
00:18:26.760 is that at every one of these rallies, why doesn't he have people sign up to become precinct committeemen?
00:18:30.400 It's the easiest transfer from rally attendants to actually holding the Republican Party accountable
00:18:35.160 to be able to have a grassroots infrastructure.
00:18:37.560 And the pioneer of this on our side is Tyler Boyer, who runs Turning Point Action.
00:18:41.440 He has been hitting precinct committee positions for as long as I have known him.
00:18:46.660 But I understand, the Republican Party, they do not want a grassroots, bottom-up party.
00:18:50.740 They would rather have a Chamber of Commerce party, raise money, go to fundraisers, run a bunch of ads.
00:18:55.960 But as soon as you have precinct committee positions that are thousands or tens of thousands of people in a state party,
00:19:01.920 for example, in Arizona, or even a smaller state like Wyoming or Missouri,
00:19:07.520 then all of a sudden, you will be able to control the entire party process.
00:19:11.260 You can control open or closed primaries.
00:19:13.360 You can control who your committeemen are.
00:19:15.480 You can control who your state party chairman is.
00:19:17.600 You can control your party guidelines and platform, I should say.
00:19:21.260 That all happens from the bottom-up of the precinct committee position.
00:19:24.700 And so everyone should become a precinct committeeman.
00:19:27.300 There's been a lot of great people on this program, I know,
00:19:29.580 that I've been talking about precinct committee strategies.
00:19:32.160 It's something I'm a big admirer and fan of.
00:19:35.420 Well, that's exactly right.
00:19:36.600 And I think it really has been the pain point for the establishment.
00:19:40.140 Because last time I checked, because I'm trying to follow the throughput of the logic here.
00:19:44.460 So this is CNN upset that America Firsters are running for Republican committee positions.
00:19:50.640 I don't believe, and, you know, Producer Cameron, correct me if I'm wrong,
00:19:54.120 I don't believe that Steve has ever advocated for anyone to run for the Democrat Party.
00:19:58.400 So CNN is actually defending the establishment of the Republican Party
00:20:03.980 in going after this precinct strategy.
00:20:06.400 And that's a very interesting concept and dynamic for people to understand.
00:20:10.540 Yeah, because they need controlled opposition.
00:20:13.040 So they need a Republican Party that is going to heal whenever they tell them to heal.
00:20:17.940 So they need people like Kinzinger and whatever.
00:20:20.520 And so a grassroots precinct committee strategy makes a Republican Party stronger.
00:20:25.660 And that really bothers CNN and bothers the national regime media.
00:20:29.760 Remember, they do not want to obliterate the Republican Party.
00:20:32.900 They just want a Republican Party that will be perpetually in the minority and obedient to their commands.
00:20:37.620 Charlie, one thing that I know that you've been digging into today and we were talking a little bit during the break is we've got the juxtaposition of two horrific events.
00:20:49.520 And Drew Hernandez is going to come up after you and go through some of these these these violent events that we've seen crimes.
00:20:55.400 One at a mall outside of Indianapolis, where apparently a good Samaritan with a gun was able to stop a mass shooter in his tracks.
00:21:05.200 But we've also just got the 80 page report of the Uvalde police failure, right, failure to essentially do anything.
00:21:15.280 Right. 400 officers and agents were on the scene.
00:21:18.100 We're also hearing that this town or this town, this area of Uvalde, because it's on that border nexus of the corridor, the trafficking corridors between Del Rio and Eagle Pass.
00:21:28.820 They've had 47 lockdowns at this school, including the day before the shooting, right, just this year, just this year, 47 lockdowns because of human trafficking activity.
00:21:40.920 They call them bailouts. The car crashes. The illegals spill out of the car. 1.00
00:21:45.720 They thought when they got the security alert that it was just another one of the bailouts.
00:21:50.040 This is what's going on on our border. That's why it's got these these law enforcement.
00:21:54.260 And one of the reasons that it's got them in vapor lock. Meanwhile, you juxtapose that with this kid, 22 years old, right, you know, young adult.
00:22:02.440 At the Greenswood Mall, just outside of Indianapolis in the Midwest, where you're from, who stops a mass shooter in his tracks.
00:22:09.180 Charlie, what's going on with our country right now? What's going on with this generation? 1.00
00:22:13.560 So we're going to talk about this in the next hour. There is a news headline that we're going to have to read and really dissect.
00:22:19.100 So Fox 59, the local Indianapolis Fox affiliate, covered the Good Samaritan, preventing a severe mass shooting.
00:22:27.280 Now, four people still died. And so it's still a tragedy.
00:22:30.120 But as we've learned from Uvalde and as we've learned from Highland Park, is that number can get very high very quickly, Jack,
00:22:37.200 is it can go from four to 20 very quickly and tragically.
00:22:40.320 So this Good Samaritan comes in armed and neutralizes the shooter, kills the shooter.
00:22:45.680 And how does the media thank him? Well, according to Fox 59, it says,
00:22:50.860 Good Samaritan stops shooter, comma, disobeyed mall's code of conduct.
00:22:58.380 The shooter goes in and saves lives. And how does the media thank him?
00:23:04.660 Not with a profile piece, not with a big picture like Stacey Abrams, you know, like a big cape. 0.82
00:23:10.060 No, no, no. Saying, hey, just so you know, in the headline, Jack, he violated the code of conduct.
00:23:17.380 That's what I saw. I was I was getting some comments in last night as I was doing show prep.
00:23:22.560 And when I prep, I like to kind of tweet as I prep, as I go, some of the thoughts that I may have.
00:23:27.500 And one of the comments I got in was, hey, I thought that you you conservatives were all pro-lifers.
00:23:32.960 You know, that's what your Bible says. It says to be pro-life.
00:23:35.080 How can you support someone right that that shot someone? And I said, stopping a mass shooting is aggressively pro-life.
00:23:41.880 It's aggressively pro-life. I mean, maybe they that a person sounds like an atheist who's never opened the Bible.
00:23:48.020 Using force to stop evil is not just allowed. It's commanded in the Bible.
00:23:54.240 Precisely. Now, Charlie, you and I, we're going to be together later this week.
00:23:58.320 Tampa, I know the last time I was here, we talked about this, but I'm going to fly down Wednesday.
00:24:03.520 I know we're going to be doing human events daily from there. I'll do war room from there if need be.
00:24:07.420 Rav will be down on the scene. But we've got Turning Point USA, SAS, Tampa, Governor DeSantis Friday, President Donald J.
00:24:15.720 Trump Saturday. Tell us what do we have in store this weekend down in Florida, down in Tampa?
00:24:21.780 How is it shaping up? It's going to be amazing.
00:24:24.060 It's going to be the center of the conservative universe for a couple of days.
00:24:26.520 I think it's going to be the biggest conservative event of this entire summer.
00:24:30.620 The numbers are incredible, Jack. It's going to be much bigger than last year.
00:24:34.140 And you remember last year. It was a real sight to be seen.
00:24:36.920 And so, as you mentioned, we have Ron DeSantis and Donald Trump, who will be sponsored by Turning Point Action, our political vehicle, as Ron DeSantis is running for governor right now of Florida.
00:24:46.600 And who knows what Donald Trump's going to do anytime soon.
00:24:49.000 And then we're going to have a straw poll, Jack.
00:24:50.980 Well, Charlie, you're not you're not saying that we might get an announcement at SAS.
00:24:54.780 No, I don't. Is that is that potentially in the cards? What do you think?
00:24:57.360 No, we just have to be careful at Turning Point, you see. So if he becomes a candidate on stage, they're got to make sure that the right organization is sponsoring him.
00:25:04.820 He's not a candidate yet, but we're going to have a straw poll on starting voting opening Saturday evening.
00:25:11.360 And we'll see what happens, as President Trump would say.
00:25:14.120 So that's going to be very interesting to see.
00:25:16.120 And so we'll have students from all across the country.
00:25:19.380 If anyone wants to come, it's tpusa.com slash SAS.
00:25:24.280 Or if you just can't remember that, just go to tpusa.com.
00:25:27.300 There's a big pop up.
00:25:28.160 Not to mention, we have Greg Gutfeld, Laura Ingram, Donald Trump Jr., Kimberly Guilfoyle.
00:25:34.100 We have Ted Cruz, Josh Hawley, the biggest speakers you could possibly imagine, breakouts that will change your life.
00:25:41.480 The entire theme this year, Jack, is celebrating Turning Point USA chapters.
00:25:46.960 We believe chapters change the world at Turning Point USA.
00:25:50.400 We believe our high school and college chapters are the backbone of everything that we do.
00:25:53.980 And we want the greater population of America to know about how our chapters are moving the dial to actually have meaningful educational activity happen on these campuses.
00:26:05.700 That I think it's one of the great untold stories of the last decade of how many Turning Point USA chapters there are and what they're doing.
00:26:12.200 So that's going to be kind of one of the themes of SAS because I feel as if sometimes we have these events, Jack.
00:26:16.460 And, you know, okay, great, these great speakers.
00:26:18.480 But I want the focus to be on the students, not as much even on the speakers.
00:26:22.240 Yeah, what next?
00:26:22.660 Yes, and then what do we do on campus, right?
00:26:24.980 So we have a goal to charter a couple hundred new chapters throughout SAS, both in person and remotely.
00:26:30.640 So tpusa.com slash SAS.
00:26:33.000 People of all ages are welcome.
00:26:35.160 Get your tickets right now.
00:26:36.120 They're running thin.
00:26:37.300 Where else could you hear from DeSantis and Trump, not to mention Gutfeldt, Hawley, Cruz, Ingram, and all the others?
00:26:43.580 And, Charlie, just to close us out, I understand that you also have something of announcement yourself coming out.
00:26:49.600 That's right.
00:26:50.240 So we have my new book, The College Scam, which we will be talking about this week.
00:26:54.900 All proceeds go to Turning Point USA, which is really fun, Jack.
00:26:58.220 So you can get a book to learn about how awful college is and then fund the organization that is actually starting college campus chapters.
00:27:06.480 Right, right, right.
00:27:07.440 So they can go to collegescam.com.
00:27:10.020 I was thinking about that just now.
00:27:10.580 Right, right.
00:27:11.660 So all what you would consider to be royalties doesn't go to me.
00:27:14.380 It goes to Fund Turning Point USA.
00:27:16.020 It's a phenomenal book.
00:27:17.000 I've worked on it for a while.
00:27:18.600 I could talk about it at length, but I'll be very blunt.
00:27:21.100 College is a scam unless you send your kid to Hillsdale College.
00:27:24.200 Then that's different.
00:27:25.060 Almost every single college is a scam, and we have to say it out loud.
00:27:29.140 We have to understand the financial implications, the spiritual implications, the political implications of what I consider to be the third rail of American politics.
00:27:37.920 So many people complain to me.
00:27:39.320 Charlie, why is the country liberal?
00:27:41.120 Why do people hate themselves?
00:27:42.560 Why do they believe there's no God?
00:27:43.980 Why do they believe there's no country?
00:27:44.980 Well, maybe it's the multi-trillion dollar albatross that you send your grandkids to that you think is not a problem, but in reality is harming everything.
00:27:52.900 Jack, I will say this.
00:27:54.180 There's people that dance around the edges on this topic, but no one has really been, I think, as forceful as we have been in this book, as factually as we've been, saying don't send your kid to college, period.
00:28:04.360 If you want to play Russian roulette with your grandkids' values or your kids' values, send them to college.
00:28:10.060 All right, stay tuned.
00:28:11.040 Make sure to watch Charlie right after us.
00:28:13.620 War Room.
00:28:14.380 We've got another couple of segments as we continue the rest of the day.
00:28:17.180 Thanks so much, Charlie, for being with us.
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00:29:47.720 You guys are celebrating his life.
00:29:49.880 It was a terror.
00:29:50.700 I'm sure it was a terror.
00:29:51.740 This is not okay.
00:29:52.800 It's not okay.
00:29:53.720 You're alive. 1.00
00:29:54.740 Shut up. 1.00
00:29:55.400 You guys need to just let it go. 1.00
00:29:58.180 Breathe in silence.
00:30:00.380 This is not okay.
00:30:01.460 This is not a George Floyd situation.
00:30:05.060 George Floyd was unarmed.
00:30:08.040 He was unarmed.
00:30:09.420 You're alive.
00:30:10.380 I'm sorry.
00:30:10.680 This is not okay.
00:30:14.080 My kids have to deal with this and probably have a mental illness now because they almost
00:30:18.900 lost their life.
00:30:20.300 There's bullet holes in my kitchen because he's sat in the hallway watching my move.
00:30:30.020 I wish it never happened either.
00:30:32.000 I don't have a place to call home.
00:30:33.940 I can't do that.
00:30:35.720 She's obviously going through a moment.
00:30:37.780 This is not okay.
00:30:38.860 This is what they want to show on the TV.
00:30:41.140 This is obviously going through a moment.
00:30:43.080 This is not okay.
00:30:44.680 Just go home.
00:30:46.880 Go home.
00:30:48.200 Because none of you guys knocked on that man's door to check his house. 1.00
00:30:51.580 Shut up. 0.98
00:30:52.320 He's coming by. 1.00
00:30:53.080 I want you to shut up. 1.00
00:30:54.260 You're freaking alive. 0.99
00:30:55.260 He did not come.
00:30:56.220 He did not.
00:30:58.100 You guys did not come and visit that man.
00:30:59.780 This is not the time.
00:31:01.060 This is not the time we're going to play.
00:31:02.440 It wasn't even.
00:31:03.560 This is not the time we're going to play.
00:31:04.940 Get away from me.
00:31:07.800 Get away. 0.73
00:31:08.840 No, because you think it's okay to get my kids in the car.
00:31:12.480 My kids in the car.
00:31:13.900 My kids in the car.
00:31:14.100 My black kid is in the car. 0.99
00:31:16.480 He killed me. 0.99
00:31:17.400 He tried to kill me in front of my kids. 0.95
00:31:19.760 He tried to kill me in front of my kids.
00:31:22.100 What you're listening to there, so for folks who haven't seen this clip on, it's been viral
00:31:31.540 on social media, 4 million views the last time I checked on Twitter alone, and I haven't
00:31:36.380 checked Getter or Truth or some of the others.
00:31:38.520 That's a mother who was the victim of a shooting, took place in Minneapolis in her apartment
00:31:46.780 home, right?
00:31:47.720 So the apartment building where she lived.
00:31:49.220 And it sounds, and I've listened to it a few times to me, it sounds like she's saying
00:31:53.460 she was moving in, right, with her children and her two children, both under five, we've
00:31:59.360 heard from reports, and that an individual came into the hallway and started shooting
00:32:04.040 at them, a single mother and her two young children.
00:32:09.080 Police then came, neutralized the threat.
00:32:12.060 And yet Black Lives Matter went and started protesting on behalf of the criminal, and 0.81
00:32:20.820 then she's confronting them saying, why are you doing this?
00:32:23.580 And so to break this all down, because like I said, I've been doing show prep all night,
00:32:29.800 later this morning, double duty.
00:32:31.440 By the way, did get the text.
00:32:33.100 The one-year-old AJ did hear his shout out.
00:32:35.520 Don't worry, AJ.
00:32:36.280 Dad will be home soon, right?
00:32:37.980 Hi, AJ.
00:32:38.660 Hope you're not driving Nana crazy.
00:32:39.920 But I wanted to bring Drew Hernandez on now, because I wanted him to break down just what
00:32:46.000 exactly is going on here when BLM is actually confronted by the victim of one of the people
00:32:54.940 that they're supporting, Drew.
00:32:56.720 Well, we know that BLM doesn't really care about Black people. 0.98
00:33:00.380 They don't really care about Black lives. 0.87
00:33:02.320 It's just as long as it fits the narrative. 1.00
00:33:04.260 If it's a white killer, white supremacist killer cop going after an unarmed Black person, 0.99
00:33:10.400 that's the narrative they try to exploit. 0.99
00:33:12.680 But what happened here was the total opposite. 0.99
00:33:15.580 It's a deranged psychopath Black guy that decided to shoot at an apartment, literally 0.98
00:33:21.200 an apartment, not an apartment building inside, at the apartment itself. 0.98
00:33:25.140 Children inside with a single mother inside.
00:33:27.480 It's a very traumatic situation, a life-threatening situation.
00:33:31.440 So police ended up getting called and responded to the scene.
00:33:36.000 Apparently, this individual put himself, barricaded himself inside of the apartment.
00:33:40.500 The victim herself, the single mother, put out images herself so she could put out the truth.
00:33:46.300 She put out photos.
00:33:47.180 You could see bullet holes in the bathroom, through the sink, through the entire apartment.
00:33:50.820 And this guy was attempting to kill, to murder these people, because not only the children
00:33:57.140 inside and the single mother, but the surrounding residents in the apartment as well.
00:34:01.480 So BLM shows up because there's like a six-hour standoff between the police and this guy.
00:34:06.580 They try to negotiate with him to surrender peacefully.
00:34:09.420 He obviously doesn't.
00:34:11.160 So according to police reports, two snipers took out this individual.
00:34:15.100 It's not clear as to what triggered the police and the SWAT to actually take him out.
00:34:20.180 But he was obviously a violent threat to the community and himself at large after shooting
00:34:26.080 at an apartment building with a single mother and two little children inside.
00:34:29.620 So BLM shows up and defends the shooter.
00:34:35.020 BLM shows up to protest the police taking out a violent threat to their own community, 0.69
00:34:40.740 predominantly black in the area and the region. 1.00
00:34:42.920 And by the way, in that viral video, that single mother is literally telling these stupid 1.00
00:34:47.980 BLM morons to their face that, I have black children. 1.00
00:34:52.000 What about their black lives? 1.00
00:34:53.800 What about this psycho black guy that tried to kill me and my black children? 1.00
00:34:57.360 Oh, no, no. 1.00
00:34:57.780 Be quiet.
00:34:58.420 Be quiet.
00:34:59.180 Go back into your car.
00:35:00.520 Go back into your car. 1.00
00:35:01.460 Shut up. 1.00
00:35:01.680 But this is what BLM does. 1.00
00:35:03.720 Anytime it doesn't fit their narrative, even black people, shut up, black person. 1.00
00:35:08.560 You don't have a voice right now. 1.00
00:35:10.000 Your black life doesn't matter because we're here to defend the criminal. 1.00
00:35:13.740 We're here to defend the criminal black guy that tried to shoot your black kids so you 1.00
00:35:18.480 don't get a voice. 1.00
00:35:19.460 You have to shut up. 1.00
00:35:20.600 We don't believe all women anymore. 1.00
00:35:22.260 We're just going to tell you to shut up, get in your car and call you all kinds of profanities 1.00
00:35:26.200 and just mock her. 0.99
00:35:28.340 They're literally mocking her. 0.97
00:35:29.460 It's always like those white liberals that are getting in her face. 0.94
00:35:31.720 Calm down. 0.94
00:35:32.520 Calm down.
00:35:33.300 Calm down.
00:35:33.560 No, the poor woman just went through a traumatic situation and they want to say – the attorney
00:35:38.840 Ben Crump takes to Twitter and says, oh, this is mental illness.
00:35:41.620 They're blaming mental illness as to why this guy decided to shoot these people. 0.83
00:35:46.020 So wait.
00:35:47.060 Let's pump the brakes there a little bit.
00:35:48.960 Ben Crump, right?
00:35:50.540 Walk the audience through who doesn't know.
00:35:52.940 Who is Ben Crump?
00:35:54.900 How did he become associated with this situation and why is this so notable that Ben Crump was
00:35:59.420 already involved here?
00:36:01.100 Well, Ben Crump is essentially a race grifter.
00:36:03.500 I mean he's essentially the same as Al Sharpton. 0.97
00:36:06.500 I mean these people are like vultures, okay?
00:36:08.460 They take the opportune opportunity. 0.99
00:36:10.720 They pounce on the black community whenever there's something they can exploit to make 1.00
00:36:15.320 a dime off of.
00:36:16.200 They take advantage of these families and immediately these attorneys like Ben Crump pounced on the
00:36:20.940 family, the shooter, and started to victimize the shooter as somehow the shooter is the victim
00:36:26.500 in the situation, blaming it on his mental illness.
00:36:29.380 The police should have never took him down. 0.97
00:36:30.800 But he doesn't say a word, like I said, about the black children or the black community 0.99
00:36:35.380 at large because these people are race grifters. 0.99
00:36:38.040 That's exactly what they are. 0.97
00:36:39.820 Right.
00:36:40.080 And Ben Crump, for folks to understand the background, this is the George Floyd lawyer.
00:36:44.860 This is Ferguson.
00:36:46.780 This is Trayvon Martin, right?
00:36:48.040 He goes all the way back.
00:36:49.780 And when I look at the situation, and your heart breaks, right?
00:36:53.540 Obviously your heart breaks.
00:36:54.620 But the question that if this was somebody with a mental illness and that they ended
00:36:59.600 up this way, but at the same time, right, if you are law enforcement and you understand
00:37:04.680 there's a situation where you have an unstable member of the community who is presenting a
00:37:10.120 threat to the lives of others and is shooting at a woman and her children, right?
00:37:16.680 This is why we have law enforcement.
00:37:19.520 This is why we have these public services, right?
00:37:22.900 The same reason if your house is burning down, right, you're not going to start asking about,
00:37:26.940 well, who are the people that live in the house and what are the people that live on
00:37:29.480 the street and what did they have on Facebook, you know, in 24...
00:37:32.280 No, we want public services to be able to go in and protect the people.
00:37:36.400 We're just talking about with Charlie Kirk and we got into this Indianapolis area, the
00:37:41.460 mall situation with the Good Samaritan, right?
00:37:44.400 And we juxtaposed that with Uvaldi, where the police, of course, didn't take the shot.
00:37:48.280 And we saw how many people died in Uvaldi.
00:37:50.620 And so then you have a Good Samaritan, right, in Indianapolis.
00:37:54.560 But look at the situation here, right?
00:37:57.340 In Uvaldi, we're criticizing the police for not doing enough, right?
00:38:02.000 Then you turn around and you go to a place like this in Minneapolis and the police do
00:38:06.240 take out the shooter.
00:38:07.540 And they're the ones who are being protested because they're called...
00:38:10.980 We have no idea, by the way, right, what the race of the officers were or any of the
00:38:14.860 chain of command or any of the stuff, right, from the scene because we don't have to report
00:38:17.480 yet.
00:38:17.620 And hopefully we do get them, and I'm sure that you will, because I know that's what
00:38:20.340 you do at Frontlines and TPUSA every day is pull together this stuff and deal with some
00:38:25.060 of these insane situations.
00:38:26.500 But we also have to realize that for the, you know, sort of the Blue Lives Matter community
00:38:32.000 out there, for the people who are police families, people like the family of David
00:38:35.680 Dorn, right?
00:38:36.200 People don't realize that his widow, right, his former wife, she herself was a police
00:38:41.340 officer, right, who was currently serving the night that he was shot and killed.
00:38:45.080 And people don't understand what it's like to come from one of these families.
00:38:48.880 But they also don't understand, when you look at these situations, that on one hand,
00:38:53.020 you've got 376 officers in a border town that can't go in and take out one 18-year-old
00:38:58.840 versus a place in Minneapolis where they do do it.
00:39:01.860 And then they're protested because you got guys like Ben Crump who have turned it, and
00:39:05.280 to your point, Drew, he's turned it into a business model, bilking these cities out of
00:39:10.620 their funding, suing them, going after them like crazy.
00:39:14.280 Why?
00:39:14.860 Because he gets, what, he gets a third of some of these settlements?
00:39:17.840 It's insane.
00:39:18.360 They didn't even, by the way, and again, Minneapolis, right, George Floyd, he didn't even have to
00:39:22.700 file the suit.
00:39:24.140 They settled before it would even went to court.
00:39:28.740 Absolutely.
00:39:29.440 It's a total race grift what these people do, Jack.
00:39:32.080 And like, I mean, it's just, it's crazy to see like how upside down we really are.
00:39:37.160 I think that video pretty much shows us where we're at, where you have a mother that's gone
00:39:41.300 through such a tragic situation.
00:39:43.580 Her little children have gone through a tragic situation.
00:39:45.120 This is one of the most horrific videos that I've seen in all of this.
00:39:47.620 Yeah.
00:39:47.880 This is terrifying.
00:39:49.940 It's literally like zombies just showing up.
00:39:52.280 Like you become the, you become, you know, the aggressor in the situation.
00:39:56.680 You become the wrong one when literally it's you and your family that just got shot at
00:40:00.680 and everyone's sitting there telling you like, no, you need to shut up.
00:40:03.020 You need to go inside. 1.00
00:40:03.880 You're the idiot right now in this situation. 1.00
00:40:05.440 But this is what Black Lives Matter does. 1.00
00:40:07.460 Like I said, they don't care about black people. 0.96
00:40:09.880 They don't care unless it fits their narrative. 0.98
00:40:11.560 And you see this time after time after time. 0.99
00:40:14.600 And the American people are sick of this communist organization that exploits black people and 0.94
00:40:19.280 even the black community and minority communities themselves to take a look at this and say, 0.94
00:40:24.000 you know what? 0.97
00:40:24.920 Enough is enough with this community because they don't give a damn about us.
00:40:28.180 I mean, it literally is as simple as that, Jack.
00:40:29.960 Well, what's so interesting to me is, and we had Richard Barris on earlier, and he was talking
00:40:34.520 about the D.C.
00:40:36.340 jury pool.
00:40:36.880 And of course, one of the reasons, and we've said it throughout the show, that I'm guest
00:40:39.900 hosting today is that our favorite host, the general, the Commodore, I think the Commodore
00:40:45.420 is what we came up with last time I was here with my brother, Stephen K. Bannon, is facing
00:40:49.020 down the regime in the Perryman federal courthouse, just a few blocks away from where I sit, going
00:40:54.300 toe to toe with the regime today in his federal courthouse.
00:40:57.820 But Richard Barris said when he was talking about the D.C.
00:40:59.840 jury pool and he was doing polling here and opinion surveys, he found something that he
00:41:04.720 called the illusory truth effect.
00:41:07.200 And I wrote that one down with Steve Bannon's pen right here to say that it's amazing to me,
00:41:12.280 the illusory truth effect.
00:41:13.920 And it's similar to, I guess, the mass formation psychosis that Dr. Malone talks about.
00:41:17.540 But this idea that what Barris specifically said, and you hear this on the video, and I
00:41:22.700 think it's exactly what you're getting at, that when people who are under the spell, right,
00:41:28.740 the enchantment of the illusory truth effect, when they're so wedded to a specific narrative
00:41:33.200 or ideology or a source that they've gotten it from, that even if you present them with
00:41:38.020 direct evidence, direct video, a woman with her children, I believe her children are in
00:41:42.700 the car in the video, right?
00:41:44.040 And she's telling you, this person shot at me in my home.
00:41:49.000 He almost killed me.
00:41:50.100 He almost killed my children. 1.00
00:41:51.200 And you hear people telling her to shut up. 1.00
00:41:53.100 They hear people say, oh, she's, you know, she's having a moment, right?
00:41:56.460 Something like this.
00:41:57.140 No, she's telling you, right?
00:41:58.380 This happened.
00:41:59.420 This happened to me.
00:42:00.280 I was a victim.
00:42:01.340 You need to reconsider your action.
00:42:02.740 But because of the illusory truth effect that they have imposed upon themselves, believing
00:42:08.360 that they are, you know, sort of the main character in the struggle against all law enforcement
00:42:14.440 is trying to go after them.
00:42:16.100 They refuse to believe the words of a mother whose children were nearly killed.
00:42:21.960 Absolutely.
00:42:24.020 I mean, it's such a joke. 0.97
00:42:25.260 It's such clown world, Jack. 0.86
00:42:26.540 I mean, when they say that, they're mocking her, you know, and they're saying she's having 0.97
00:42:30.980 a moment.
00:42:31.440 She's having a moment there.
00:42:32.520 Of course, she's having a moment.
00:42:34.540 She should have a moment.
00:42:36.200 The whole world should listen to what she has to say.
00:42:38.320 I'm surprised that she didn't swing at her, to be honest.
00:42:40.860 When I'm watching that, if that were my wife, look, if that were my wife and my wife 1.00
00:42:45.420 is Slavic, I'm just saying if that not God forbid we were ever in a situation like that, 1.00
00:42:49.220 but you've got in her face just saying, I don't know if you'd be getting out of it.
00:42:53.000 Yeah, man.
00:42:53.500 I mean, she should totally have her moment.
00:42:55.100 The whole world should listen to what she has to say.
00:42:56.820 And it's crazy because they say it's mental illness.
00:42:58.840 We care so much about mental illness, mental illness, mental illness.
00:43:01.420 And she comes out and tells the truth and says, hey, you guys are wrong.
00:43:04.840 This guy's was this guy was the aggressor.
00:43:06.620 He tried to kill me and my family. 0.98
00:43:09.000 Now my children are probably going to have a mental illness.
00:43:11.580 She brings that up because obviously the kids are going to be traumatized for the rest of
00:43:15.380 their lives.
00:43:16.020 Oh, no.
00:43:16.420 How do you know?
00:43:17.200 Did you hear the clip, Jack?
00:43:18.100 How do you know?
00:43:19.220 How do you know?
00:43:20.120 How do you know?
00:43:20.560 What do you mean?
00:43:20.760 How do they?
00:43:21.280 How do you?
00:43:21.680 She's their mother.
00:43:22.220 What do you mean?
00:43:23.200 But they don't care.
00:43:24.000 It's a drip, Jack.
00:43:25.080 It's a lie.
00:43:25.600 We're out of time.
00:43:26.220 Where can people follow you, Drew?
00:43:27.280 Where can people catch you?
00:43:27.940 You guys can follow me on Twitter, Drew HLive, and watch me daily on the Turning Point USA
00:43:31.880 YouTube channel Frontlines every single day at 4 p.m. Eastern.
00:43:36.860 Thanks so much, Drew.
00:43:37.540 All right, coming up, last segment.
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00:44:37.420 But I also wanted to bring on, because we're finishing out the show, the editor-in-chief.
00:44:42.480 We've been able to land it, folks.
00:44:43.940 Producer Cameron worked all night to land this one.
00:44:46.120 He had to woo her.
00:44:47.060 He had to woo her in.
00:44:47.960 But we've got Libby Emmons from the Post Millennial joining us. 0.94
00:44:51.100 Libby.
00:44:52.380 Hey, Jack.
00:44:53.220 How's it going?
00:44:54.600 Yes, yes, yes.
00:44:55.460 The wooing was successful.
00:44:56.640 And it wasn't the Ric Flair, you know, the woo.
00:44:58.660 No, no, no, no, no.
00:44:59.640 So the Post Millennial, so much going on this week.
00:45:03.200 Also, I believe the Post Millennial is going double barrel in terms of coverage of the trial of Steve Bannon.
00:45:10.780 But then also, you yourself, you're running the page on a regular basis, running the outlet.
00:45:15.020 But you've got a huge report for us on Dr. Birx's book.
00:45:19.180 So tell us a little bit, what's Post Millennial up to this week?
00:45:21.580 Trial of Bannon, SAS, and then let's get into Birx.
00:45:25.100 Yeah, we have a great limited podcast series coming up this week.
00:45:29.220 Viva Frey is working on that with attorneys who are reporting live from the trial of Steve Bannon.
00:45:36.220 And everyone should check that out.
00:45:37.640 It's going to be really fascinating.
00:45:39.800 This is kind of a wild show trial based on the subpoena from a different wild show trial that we have going on in Congress.
00:45:49.320 So it will be certainly interesting to see how the January 6th committee continues to prosecute their political opponents.
00:45:57.020 So you've got, and just to be clear, so Post Millennial will have someone, obviously Viva, and we had him on earlier in the show, is going to be doing the limited podcast series every day.
00:46:07.400 A new episode, I think every night is what he said.
00:46:10.020 And then, but Post Millennial will also have someone boots on the ground in the courtroom itself, the Perryman Feral courtroom. 0.92
00:46:15.980 Yeah, working with Viva.
00:46:19.160 So he's working with some attorneys who are checking out that trial live.
00:46:22.680 And then he's going to, yeah, be working with them directly.
00:46:25.080 So I think that's really exciting.
00:46:27.800 And then, and then will Post Millennial, will I see Post Millennial down at SAS later this week in Florida?
00:46:33.720 You sure will.
00:46:34.640 We have a couple of our great reporters and editors heading down there who will be covering SAS, covering some of the great speakers.
00:46:43.600 I know that you're going to be speaking, Governor DeSantis is going to be speaking, and we will for sure be there covering that.
00:46:49.760 So you can find all your SAS related news right at the Post Millennial.
00:46:54.980 I was going to say SAS, so DeSantis is actually speaking before me.
00:46:58.400 So he's my warmup act for the, for the evening, but then I'm on the warmup for President Trump.
00:47:01.920 So it goes, so it goes, at least the last, the last schedule I saw, who knows, Charlie probably, will probably yank me after that last comment.
00:47:07.620 But you were digging into, and we've got about four minutes left here in the program, but you were digging into, and this is so important, Dr. Birx's new biography, which to me reads like a confession.
00:47:21.620 When I've read some of these excerpts, you really dug into it.
00:47:25.300 You went down the rabbit hole. Tell us, what did Dr. Birx mean when she said that she hid and obfuscated data on COVID-19 to President Trump in order to achieve the lockdown protocols?
00:47:41.460 Yeah, so it was actually really interesting. I took a look at that. I listened to some per congressional testimony, and she said that the U.S. did not have sufficient data to back up the plans that she wanted for lockdowns and for economic shutdowns.
00:47:57.520 She said, actually, that the goal was to introduce greater and greater shutdown measures, but to do it slowly, one piece at a time.
00:48:05.940 She brought each new plan for the shutdown, such as the 15 days to stop the spread and all of this, one little piece at a time, not revealing that her true intentions were to go much further.
00:48:19.040 She was literally advocating for boiling the frog slowly, and we Americans and her rights were definitely the frogs.
00:48:26.080 So at each step of the game, when Americans would give up their rights and would say, okay, we'll do this little piece, you know, 15 days to stop the spread, we all remember that.
00:48:35.880 It sounded so reasonable, and it turned out that even when that 15 days to stop the spread was being proposed by Birx and her team to the Trump administration,
00:48:44.900 they knew already that that was really just step one. And in her book, she reveals that there was not enough domestic data to support this,
00:48:53.040 and that they were going off of data from Italy, South Korea, and China primarily.
00:48:59.140 It was really interesting, too, because Jim Jordan was questioning Birx in a congressional hearing last month
00:49:05.960 and asked her outright if the government was guessing or if they were lying when they talked about vaccine efficacy and all of these other things.
00:49:15.360 And she said, Dr. Birx said that the government was, in fact, hoping that they were hoping that their plans were correct because they were based on domestic data.
00:49:24.420 They were hoping that's correct.
00:49:26.020 They were hoping that the lockdowns and the vaccine strategies would be successful.
00:49:29.160 But she knew at the time she didn't have that. I'm sorry, Libby, this reads to me like a confession.
00:49:37.540 This reads to me like a confession. It reads like a tell-all.
00:49:40.560 Yeah.
00:49:40.860 Like she's getting it off of her chest.
00:49:42.980 It's something that they're proud of. She's very proud of the strategies that she took and the way that she and her team were able to convince the Trump administration
00:49:51.400 and the economic advisors who, you know, Trump was very concerned with shutting down the economy.
00:49:57.540 This was not a great idea. We're seeing now. This was not a great idea. Yet here we are.
00:50:03.100 And she was very proud of her strategies.
00:50:05.080 I think a big part of the reason that she wrote the book and certainly what she said to Congress was to say outright that the U.S.
00:50:13.280 should be doing a better job of forcefully collecting data.
00:50:16.520 The CDC primarily does voluntary reporting and Birx and many in her cohort think that this should be, you know, much more robust and mandatory data collection.
00:50:29.540 Well, I think I think this is something we need to be digging into all week.
00:50:32.180 We're pretty much out of time here for the show today. Libby, where can people find you?
00:50:35.080 Because I know you're going to be breaking report after report on Dr. Birx and also the way that she modeled this after the CCP.
00:50:41.080 Yeah, you should check me out at Libby Emmons on Twitter. You can follow the Post Millennial on Twitter at T Post Millennial.
00:50:50.360 And of course, we're at the Post Millennial dot com every day.
00:50:53.840 All right. Thank you so much, Libby Emmons. Now, I remember now CNN and the Atlantic, some of the places they heard Steve say something here on the worm the other day.
00:51:01.300 They said he was going to go medieval. He was going to go medieval. Right.
00:51:04.900 So I heard that and I said, go medieval. All right. We're going to go medieval. I'm going to go medieval as we close it out here.
00:51:12.240 Amen.
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