On today's show, we talk about Mike Pence's latest political endorsement in the Arizona governor's race, how it impacts the race, and what it means for the rest of the country. We also hear from Rep. Kyrsten Robeson, Ducey's challenger, who responds to the VP's latest backing of her opponent.
00:01:36.760Obviously, MSNBC doesn't understand the world of MAGA and America First politics, which is the only way, frankly, out of the mess that the swamp got us into.
00:01:48.020And they're thinking that rolling out somebody like Doug Ducey or Mike Pence will do the job.
00:01:54.360I mean, these guys are the laughingstock, frankly, of politics right now.
00:01:58.540The people have turned on them because they turned on the people.
00:02:02.320And my opponent has never been even close to catching up with us in the polls.
00:02:07.780They're trying to act like she's tightening her, you know, her stance with us and getting close to us.
00:02:13.900But all of our internal polling shows were up 11, 12, 13 points all over the state, even in areas that are a little bit swampier that maybe you'd think she would be doing better.
00:02:24.320She still can't pull ahead and can't even come close to us.
00:03:10.140And, you know, I think it's actually good that it was delayed because since it was delayed, we've had these two swamp creatures come out and get behind my rhino opponent.
00:03:19.900So it's just going to up the game and it's going to make it even more exciting.
00:03:23.920We're so looking forward here in Arizona to welcoming President Donald J. Trump.
00:03:28.400You know, when you go out there and you meet voters, right, and I hear this and, you know, so now I'm asking you as a reporter, right, with your other hat on, that when there's sort of this idea,
00:03:41.000and I'm just trying to understand the calculus for Pence here, and does he want to run?
00:09:44.960But we're willing to take that fight and we're willing to take it right up to the Supreme Court.
00:09:49.280And we know in the end we will win because it says it right there in plain language in the United States Constitution.
00:09:57.220And it's just so amazing to me that when you look at some of these, and we were talking earlier on the program about sort of just the basic idea, right?
00:10:07.320The basic idea for why do we have government, do we have government because of this, you know, we want to pool our resources and share things, this socialist idea.
00:10:24.720Well, when you're hearing things like bailouts and gotaways in places where there's children present, right?
00:10:34.500And that this leads to a lackadaisical response, obviously a response that goes completely insane with 400 officers in Uvalde not being able to actually go and neutralize the threat in a way that I think that everybody wants, right?
00:10:48.280And of course, we're going to see prosecutions and investigations over there, but we also have to understand that this situation is something that we can control as a government and as a society.
00:11:02.580All we need to do is elect the right people who have the mindset of we're going to put people first and we're going to defend people first.
00:11:11.100If it's a policing situation, we bring the police in and we have good police.
00:11:27.740Because we are there to defend the American people, period.
00:11:31.800Well, and you talk to any man or woman in the military right now and you ask them, would you rather be down on our southern border securing the United States or over in Ukraine helping out there?
00:11:43.660A hundred percent of them would say I'd rather be in our own country helping secure our border.
00:11:49.000And we're going to get help from other states, Jack.
00:11:51.120Part of my plan is to have an interstate compact with other states, ask them to send their state National Guard to our border, have them help with resources and any information they can provide us.
00:12:05.160Because, look, this is a 50-state problem.
00:12:07.980The fentanyl pouring into Arizona doesn't remain here.
00:12:17.140I've been saying that since I got into this race.
00:12:19.640When you're sending in tons of fentanyl and what we've confiscated already could kill two and a half billion people, frankly, that's a weapon of mass destruction.
00:12:33.880But we will, starting in January of 23 in Arizona, shut this operation down.
00:12:39.480Well, and this is, this also gets to a point that, you know, when I was down there again, and I heard this time and again from Border Patrol, Homeland Security folks I had talked to, they said this idea that there's the border and then there's the true border, right?
00:12:54.940The true border is the one that keeps going north and north and north because you're finding cartel safe houses, you're finding shootouts, you're finding these trafficking corridors,
00:13:04.140you're finding some of these towns who unfortunately do have corruption, you do have a problem with some local politicians there that are on the take from these cartels.
00:13:38.420Kerry, it seems to me like you're talking about finishing the Trump agenda, and yet I hear Vice President Pence seems like he's against that for some reason.
00:14:09.880And they're going to try it again, but they're painted into a corner because when they try to cheat again, they're going to get caught.
00:14:15.880And they thought they finished up with President Trump, and they moved him on out.
00:14:20.000And what has happened is a whole legacy of leaders that President Trump inspired, myself included, who are not willing to let go of America, who are not willing to let this country falter.
00:14:31.120And we're going to save it each and every one of us.
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00:17:02.220Also, breaking from the courthouse, the producers just let me know during the break, the judge has denied Steve Bannon's request, his attorney's request, to delay the trial for one month,
00:17:12.500given the fact that they're going to be letting in this letter from the January 6th committee, which discusses executive privilege.
00:17:19.520However, they are potentially going to allow a one-day delay, so they're going to mull that over.
00:17:25.600They're breaking for lunch pretty soon, but then they're going to come back with four questions.
00:17:29.640So four questions and the potential proffer.
00:17:31.900So we're going to see this all, by the way, going to be recapped in a nightly recap of the trial of Steve Bannon, which is being produced by the Post Millennial.
00:17:43.060It's exclusive Post Millennial podcast and then hosted by Viva Fry.
00:17:46.720If you want to get more into this, right, I'm doing the breaking in real time as we do the show, but that's going to be solely focused on the trial.
00:17:53.220It's going to come out every night, Viva Fry, Post Millennial, Apple, Spotify, wherever you get your podcasts, we'll have it.
00:18:00.180I wanted to bring on, though, now we were talking about a story yesterday here on the program about this police shooting in Minneapolis, right?
00:18:08.640Teckley Sundberg, I got the name right, Teckley Sundberg.
00:18:11.520And we had Drew Hernandez on yesterday and we were asking, why did the police take the shot, right?
00:18:16.980So this guy and BLM is out there, they're protesting, they're raising money.
00:18:21.100They said police shot him. It was an execution. They never would have done that.
00:18:25.260If the suspect was white, it never would have happened, right?
00:18:28.180They're raising money. Ben Crump is already involved.
00:18:31.280And I remember I was going through the timeline on this and Drew Hernandez had done a great job from front lines of putting together a timeline as we had it at the moment.
00:18:40.140But we knew there was this six hour period wherein the police were discussing or negotiating with the suspect.
00:18:47.880And we knew that there was some kind of negotiation going on.
00:18:50.520Okay, so what happened during those six hours and why did they take the shot?
00:18:54.580The family was saying, right, throughout all of this.
00:18:56.900And as they're raising money, they've hired Ben Crump and he's, this was the Floyd lawyer and Ferguson, et cetera, et cetera.
00:19:02.920He's always teleports to these things, right?
00:19:04.580And then we got a report and I saw a report from Julio Rosas, the senior writer over at Town Hall.
00:19:13.880And he has exciting breaking scoop on what actually went down because of his sources within the Minneapolis police department.
00:19:22.220I said, Julio, you got to come on and break this down for us.
00:19:29.460And for folks who don't know, Julio and I met, you know, kind of in the streets in 2020 covering different BLM and TIFA type activity, whether here in D.C.
00:19:51.240But, but I'm really, you know, just, just congratulations, by the way, on your scoop.
00:19:56.000And if you can break down for people what it is that you've been able to reveal about this situation that absolutely I am in my mind debunks everything that this guy Ben Crump is saying.
00:20:09.460And as you pointed out, it's not just activists and random protesters.
00:20:12.540Like his own family is saying that if it was not for the fact that he was a black man experiencing a mental health crisis, the Minneapolis Police Department would not have killed him and they would have actually been able to talk him down.
00:20:53.660And so when, when it come, when it came to the six hour standoff, once police were able to evacuate the building and that family, they, they engaged in a six hour standoff with him.
00:21:02.380And from what I'm told, uh, not only did they actually use a PA system, not only did they try to call him on his cell phone, they also did allow the father to go on the PA system.
00:21:12.220And obviously, uh, the family did try to call him on a cell phone as well, except for most of the time, whenever they tried to engage with tech lay, he would actually turn up the volume on music.
00:21:23.360He was playing in the room that he was in so that he wouldn't hear either the cell phone ring or the, the, the voices outside the PA system.
00:21:31.160In addition to that, uh, the one time that they were actually able to get him on the cell phone, I'm told that he was incoherent.
00:21:39.060He sounded like he was talking to somebody else in the room and he was just yelling kind of random obscenities.
00:21:44.120And one of, uh, one of my sources said that he just, uh, the, you know, the shooter was just not going to negotiate.
00:21:51.120I mean, they, they, they were standing out there again for six hours and trying to throughout the night.
00:21:57.100And, uh, once again, I am told that the reason why the snipers, uh, did finally, you know, made the decision to take him out was because he was moving to basically start shooting again.
00:22:08.280Uh, and after, you know, he already expended multiple rounds, uh, earlier.
00:22:12.540So this wasn't a situation where cops just show up and just start firing your guns blazing right, right out the outset.
00:22:18.420I mean, they, they, they did everything that they could from what we can see from videos that were taken that night from the citizen app, uh, to, you know, to even, uh, you know, the dad of tech lay to, to try to call him down, to try to deescalate the situation.
00:22:34.560But now they're turning it on the police department, the family of tech lay, uh, because the dad wanted to go actually into the building itself to try to talk to him more directly.
00:22:44.020And one of my sources said that that was just a terrible idea because not only was he firing.
00:22:48.620No, you can't, you can't, you can't allow that.
00:22:51.780Cause he was firing through walls and doors.
00:22:53.960So, I mean, he could have ended up shooting his own father if he didn't believe that he was coming in or, or, you know, another worst case scenario would have been that it could have turned into a hostage situation.
00:23:01.960So, I mean, this is not at all a situation like George Floyd, heck, this isn't even like a situation where, you know, like Jacob Blake, but I mean, even in that case, uh, you know, that was also justified police shooting.
00:23:13.500Uh, but this was from, from, from what, from the evidence that we have so far, it seemed like that they made every attempt to avoid, uh, actually shooting him.
00:23:24.040And, you know, we're going to get the body camera footage and they say it's going to take some time because there's over 50 police officers.
00:23:31.080So that's going to be hundreds of hours of footage that they're going to have to go through.
00:23:34.280Uh, but all, you know, available evidence that we have right now indicates that this was not just, you know, white cops in Minneapolis, just trying to gun down, uh, uh, just, uh, an innocent black man.
00:23:45.060No, and, and, and in fact, as far as I know, we don't actually know the races of the snipers or the negotiators or any of the people involved.
00:23:53.100Um, but, but Julio, just, just in some of these basic points, right.
00:23:56.600Some of the basic points that are so easily debunkable, right.
00:24:00.500Which, which you have already done, which video from the citizen app has already done.
00:24:17.500Because it's just standard practice at this point, because it's just, uh, from, from the outset of, from 2020 is just that they, they, they've created this environment where it's profitable for them to get involved, to stir up racial animosity towards, you know, towards, you know, towards police and towards, uh, citizens of, of Minneapolis and other cities.
00:24:38.640Uh, because the culture, the culture has shifted dramatically to where, uh, you know, understandably there, you always have to be skeptical with, uh, or it's, it's wise to be skeptical when it comes to police department claims and everything.
00:24:52.720And that's why we have body camera footage to the head, you know, we can actually figure out for ourselves what's happening in these situations, but it's been taken to the extreme to where, you know, automatically we're just going to not believe, uh, the police department.
00:25:03.400We're not going to, you know, despite the available evidence that's still, you know, they're going to say that, uh, that they're lying.
00:25:09.620And it even seems like the father kind of changed the story a little bit or, or made it seem like, uh, he wasn't able to engage with tech way, uh, at all, which of course wasn't the case.
00:25:20.180So, I mean, it's, it's just that it's profitable.
00:25:22.160I mean, you look at, I mean, the money, uh, that's been pouring in, I mean, uh, the George Floyd family got, I think it was a $27 million in a settlement with the city.
00:25:32.480So, I mean, if they see an opportunity to make, you know, it's a profit off of, right, right.
00:25:39.160Which of course he gets a cut off that.
00:25:42.100So it's just, it's a profitable scheme right now.
00:25:45.060And I'm not saying that there isn't instances of, uh, police misconduct at all, but I mean, it's just in this case, especially with the Minneapolis police department, it seemed like this was a good shoot.
00:25:56.120No, to me, it, it, it looks like, it looks like Ben Crump and the activists here, they are using this as a sales funnel, right?
00:26:02.940They're, they see these incidents, they see some of the videos, they hear what happened.
00:26:06.520And they, and they realized that they can use this as a way to essentially get to that settlement.
00:26:11.460It's all about that settlement at the end, but you actually wrote a book documenting a lot of what you saw in 2020 and all of these situations.
00:26:22.120So, I mean, basically the, the, the whole reason why your earlier question about like why they're doing this is because of the culture and the culture was set because of the riots that happened in 2020.
00:26:31.060Because I mean, again, as you said, it happened, uh, in Minneapolis, you know, what happened with George Floyd shouldn't have happened, but it, and it did, but again, things were taken to the extreme and it just repeated itself throughout basically the rest of the rest of the year.
00:26:45.500Where whenever there was, you know, a perceived instance of police misconduct, the automatic response was just to riot.
00:26:52.320Um, and so, you know, I went everywhere from, you know, Minneapolis to, we were in Chaz, uh, Kenosha, Louisville, Wauwatosa, Wisconsin, uh, just all across the, the, the country.
00:27:04.160Because there were just riots that would just happen, uh, in the name of social justice, in the name of racial equity.
00:27:11.140When in, in a lot of those cases, it was minorities who suffered the most.
00:27:15.640Well, that's actually, you were proper damage.
00:27:18.260Correct me if I'm wrong, but you were actually there, the, in Kenosha, the night of the, uh, the Kyle Rittenhouse, uh, shooting.
00:27:25.060I, I, I was, uh, Kyle Rittenhouse was in the middle of the street.
00:27:28.380I was on the other side of the street when the second half of the shooting, when he shot Anthony Huber and Gage Grosskreutz in self-defense.
00:27:34.160This is when the, when the, when the, the crowd is chasing him down the street at this point.
00:27:38.180So you weren't in the initial parking lot, but as the crowd is chasing him down, then they came up to basically where you were.
00:27:46.100You know, it was right after he shot Joseph Rosenbaum again in self-defense and, and probably my, my claim to fame with, with that case is that it was my video.
00:27:53.100That caught Rosenbaum slinging the N-word around to, to.
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00:31:26.720And we've heard how CNN and the establishment in general is going after the precinct project, precinct strategy, right?
00:31:34.860They're saying, we can't have anybody going after these.
00:31:38.340This is terrible that people are getting into their democracy.
00:31:41.740People are going to be running for office and taking over the parties.
00:31:44.800And we can't have anybody from the war room that's ever getting involved in politics.
00:31:48.880That would just be disastrous for democracy if, just to play it out, if average people were getting up off their couches and getting involved in democracy.
00:31:59.940And so, I wanted to bring Tyler on because, Tyler, that's pretty much your job, isn't it?
00:32:03.960Getting people off their couches and getting them involved in democracy.
00:32:07.240Yeah, you know, Jack, and you've been such an instrumental leader, I want to say.
00:32:10.900With us at Turning Point USA and Turning Point Action, where we work specifically day in and day out.
00:32:18.760I know the audience here knows Dan Schultz really well.
00:32:22.340I've actually known Dan for almost going on about a dozen years here in Arizona, where we've had the grassroots working for a long time, trying to talk the party into, hey, you've got to focus on getting the precincts filled.
00:32:38.960But Turning Point Action, I kind of view as rounding up the younger side of what the Precinct Project has been so good at doing, which is making people totally aware of this thing.
00:32:50.460Which is that the only way for the party to be saved is for individuals to get up off their butts, get off the couch, and get involved today.
00:33:00.520And, you know, if there's one thing that's come from the Trump era, it's that people are realized in this battle for election integrity that we're seeing in four key states in particular.
00:33:12.400And so we have staff full time in Wisconsin, Arizona, Georgia, Michigan, Ohio, and Florida in particular, where our big focus is get individuals, particularly younger people.
00:33:26.960When I say younger people, I mean, you know, 40s, 50s-year-olds, and, you know, obviously people are my age and our age that are in their 20s and 30s, to actually get involved and start rocking and rolling so that we can take back the party and save the country.
00:33:44.500Well, one of the interesting things that I've seen is that Turning Point Action.
00:33:47.660So this is sort of the, this is the C4 arm, this is the political action arm, because we've all seen what Charlie's done over at Turning Point from the C3 side, the chapters on every campus.
00:33:59.560And yesterday he was telling us that at SAS, which is coming up just a couple of days, right, in Tampa, that the chapters are going to take a main focus here.
00:34:08.580But what, what Turning Point Action is now doing is taking all of that incredible organization, that same idea, but then turning it into a political action arm.
00:34:19.920What are some of the other really key states that you're doing?
00:34:23.100And then walk us through some of the operations that Turning Point Action is going to commit to during these midterms or go, or in, you know, in the ahead of the midterms.
00:34:31.740Well, look, Jack, I serve, so I got elected this last time to the Republican National Committee.
00:34:37.100And so I'm actually the national committeeman also for the state of Arizona on the RNC.
00:34:42.060And so many people would agree and say, hey, the RNC has done very little to focus on the precincts and take it back.
00:34:50.160And, you know, that, that's not a, that's not a wrong, you know, observation.
00:34:55.940It's, it's the, the party apparatus in general hasn't, because as we know, we've talked about, and I know Dan's talked about time and time again,
00:35:02.980that the establishment does not want real grassroots people in, because that makes, that you start holding people accountable that run for office.
00:35:11.320And you start challenging people for their offices, and they, they don't want that.
00:35:16.380And so you look at what's happened in states like Michigan, Wisconsin, Arizona, Georgia, and let's focus particularly on Arizona and Georgia,
00:35:24.300where you've had the establishment basically try to take that state over, those two individual states, and box everybody out.
00:35:31.780And so the bench has been really weak.
00:35:34.220And we've seen that during the McCain area, and we're seeing that with some of the individuals who won their primaries in Georgia,
00:35:40.180is that they're, they're trying to keep everybody out, because the last thing that they want is for somebody to come in and take over their job and do it better.
00:35:48.100And so, look, the reality is this, is that we have a ton of incredibly smart grassroots individuals.
00:35:53.900And, you know, I'm, I'm excited because there's a lot of, a lot of Jack-esque and Jack followers that are out there that are wanting to get more involved.
00:36:02.820And that's what we need in the younger era.
00:36:05.060You know, that's what we need from our people that are, you know, sub 40 years old, which is, hey, you know, I know you're having kids.
00:36:12.700I know you've got all these things going on.
00:36:14.700But spend a little bit of time, you know, after you go to church and you're raising your kids right, spend a little bit of time saving the country and giving back.
00:36:23.000And that's what we need you to do as a precinct committeeman, and particularly Georgia, Arizona, Wisconsin, and Michigan.
00:36:29.440Because if we don't save those states, there's a really tough pathway to the presidency in 2024.
00:36:35.060And so we've got to take those states back now while we have the opportunity, particularly in 2022, where this is a huge opportunity for us to take back ground.
00:36:44.040Well, in looking at those states particularly, but also we know, of course, this is a 50-state question.
00:36:48.940And that question, of course, is election integrity, right?
00:36:54.080We all know the issues from Arizona, from Maricopa, where, of course, where you're from.
00:36:58.820And but looking forward, what is turning point action doing?
00:37:02.800What can turning point action do or people just at the precinct level in general when it comes to election integrity?
00:37:09.040And I think that we've seen, you know, to kind of answer my question a little bit, that we've seen that it really is the personnel that matter so much at these local levels when it comes to the conduct and the carrying out of our elections.
00:37:23.340Well, look, I mean, I don't want to break any news here, but, you know, the executive board for the executive committee for this, the Republican Party of Arizona.
00:37:34.000And so most people here are aware that the Republican Party in Arizona is pretty conservative at this point.
00:39:10.600Look, we've seen this time and again with, look at Liz Cheney as an example of this, right?
00:39:15.660Her own party, censoring her, moving to remove her.
00:39:19.140You've got her primary challenger is, I think, double-digit lead, last time I checked, or even more than that.
00:39:24.080We're seeing the numbers where they need to be in state by state, but we also need people inside the party at that level who can actually execute.
00:39:33.820Because the administration, right, or the establishment, whatever it is, right?
00:39:37.500And you're seeing this, by the way, with your beloved governor, Doug Ducey, coming out and essentially throwing cold water over all the MAGA movement, over Trump, over all of this.
00:39:49.140I mean, look, the Harriet example, Hageman in Wyoming, is exactly the party apparatus, also working.
00:39:55.940Wyoming is one of those states where the conservatives took over.
00:39:59.160The chair there is an incredible dude.
00:40:02.460And he, yeah, what they have done is they've gone in, and people don't realize this, but the party, if you take over the party, you can basically say, hey, we're not going to support the incumbent.
00:40:15.120And so part of the reason why Liz Cheney is in such trouble is because good people with some real, you know, backbone stepped up, and they, you know, said, hey, we're not going to elect this guy, elect this girl again, and she's done.
00:40:29.660And that's part of the reason why it's almost impossible for her to win is because the party has done that, because no resources from any Republican apparatus can come in and support her as an incumbent.
00:40:40.200And these are important things that are – sorry, go ahead.
00:40:45.520No, no, no, didn't mean to cut you off.
00:40:46.440But look, we have a couple of minutes left, and I wanted to also say to Tyler, I will, I know, see you later this week at Turning Point Action's focus of where Turning Point Action is actually also hosting, right, part of SAS down in Tampa,
00:41:02.200and actually bringing to stage, I think the only stage in the entire country this summer, possibly this whole year, where Governor Ron DeSantis and President Trump are going to be appearing together.
00:41:14.840And you and I were talking about it a little bit during the break.
00:41:18.540What's the convention center atmosphere look like as you're looking at it?
00:41:21.360What are some of the things that you're looking at going into this incredible immersive experience as Turning Point SAS really turns the center of the conservative galaxy in that one immersive weekend?
00:43:49.640We're going to go back to Dr. Birx and break down the shadow government that she was running during the Trump administration.
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00:47:34.880She always thought you would have to stay in lockdowns forever, as far as I can tell.
00:47:37.780So when she's referring to people advertising that the vaccines would stop infection and transmission,
00:47:44.640she's really talking about Fauci and Walensky and these kind of things.
00:47:47.960So when she says it was a hope, she's really describing them, that they were hoping.
00:47:52.620But she'd been reading the EUAs and seeing very clearly early on that they weren't going to work.
00:47:57.640But what's creepy about Burke's is that she's even worse than what you described, even from early, from middle of the March.
00:48:05.380I mean, she was the one who ultimately convinced Trump to greenlight the lockdowns, right?
00:48:10.400And we know this from her own account from March 11th, March 12th, and all the way through the 16th.
00:48:16.560But when Trump began to realize he'd been sort of hornswoggled by her, he started urging the country to open up because he knew that the American people were suffering and the Trump economy was being destroyed.
00:48:29.980She went into full time, full action to subvert and make it impossible for Trump to achieve his aims.
00:48:41.860She essentially became the effective head of a shadow government that was fully operational between March 20th and then all the way until the middle of December of that year,
00:48:58.200where she, and she has hundreds of pages in her book about this, would weekly alter the data reports that the White House was sending to the states.
00:49:07.840She was flying around from state to state.
00:49:09.600She convinced Abbott and Texas to impose a mask mandate and intensify capacity restrictions and so on.
00:49:16.900She was a full-down lockdowner for the entire year at the same time that Trump was on the stump, you know, arguing for opening and saying this has got to stop.
00:49:31.260We remember this sort of mismatched strategy where you would get President Trump going and, you mind, he's campaigning for re-election at this time.
00:49:42.100He'd be at a rally talking about how we're going to open up and the lockdowns are going to end.
00:49:46.940And then the task force would come out and say, no, we need more lockdowns and now we're moving to vaccines.
00:49:51.400But it wasn't just Birx involved in this, was it, because you had Fauci and then you had Pence as well sort of overtop the entire apparatus?
00:50:00.680You had really essentially the entire administrative state.
00:50:04.100So the entire NIH and CDC and Department of Health and Human Services and the entire bureaucratic state was entirely organized against Trump, who, I'm sorry to say it, and you felt this too, because you were watching this very carefully at the time.
00:50:25.740They were glad to have him out on the campaign trail and announcing this and announcing that, but there was a huge operation to disable his capacity to govern from March all the way to the election.
00:50:43.540And he began to sniff this out, too, because he would try to hire certain employees in the CDC and open things up and get some rational thinking, especially because Scott Atlas showed up and...
00:50:54.420The villain of the book, her villain, the antagonist of Scott Atlas.
00:50:58.260Well, let me tell you, that man saved the world, as far as I'm concerned.
00:51:02.980I mean, what he did was brave and bold.
00:51:05.040I mean, how many of us have walked into the Billy of the Beast and just told them what we really think about everything?
00:51:10.240I mean, that's exactly what Scott Atlas did.
00:51:12.320So she had to kill him, and she's still trying to kill him.
00:51:14.840But actually, her book inadvertently makes him, you know, a great hero for the ages and reveals herself to be, you know...
00:51:28.940And you know what troubles me most about this?
00:51:31.260I mean, this book has been out a while, and I kind of dug through it in detail, and I wondered how it is that she believes that she can get away with this.
00:51:39.380So I've had countless people, very smart people who know what's what, say, isn't what she's admitting to illegal?
00:51:47.540And I don't really know the answer to that, but a more profound question is, like, why does she think that there's no payback for this?
00:51:54.440And the reason is that she, among many other people, is so convinced that the administrative state are the real rulers of this country, that there's nothing you can admit to that's going to get you in any kind of trouble with the bureaucratic...
00:52:09.700Hey, Jeffrey, we are just about out of time.
00:52:13.080We're going to talk to Peter, see if we can get you in for the afternoon show, because there's so much more.
00:52:18.040I think we are just pulling the threads.
00:52:23.600Peter Burks, this is the start of the next leg of it.
00:52:27.820That's right, and let's not forget that Trump tried to put an end to this right before the election with his Schedule F executive order, and that was reversed by Biden.
00:52:36.460So there's warfare going on in this country right now, and this conflict between Burks and the elected politicians is just the beginning of it.