Episode 2052： Live From CPAC Day 1; The Counts Are Still Coming In; Potential Fraud In Arizona; The Economy Is In Constant Decline
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CPAC is a conservative political action conference in Dallas, Texas. President Donald Trump is scheduled to speak on Saturday, and other high profile speakers include Steve Bannon, Sarah Palin, and Sean Hannity. Far-right Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor Orban will also address the conference one week after his racist remark that countries where European and non-European nationals mix are no longer nations.
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I guess you can call them that, are gathering in Dallas for the annual CPAC convention beginning
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today. There is an argument, though, if they really stand for conservative principles.
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However, Donald Trump will address the event on Saturday. That should tell you something.
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Other high-profile speakers include Steve Bannon, Sarah Palin, and Sean Hannity.
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Far-right Hungarian prime minister, as we just heard, Viktor Orban, will also address the
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conference one week after his racist remark that countries where European and non-Europeans mix
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are, quote, no longer nations. Orban has been alienated by much of the European Union.
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But last week he met with Trump. And as the BBC put it, he will be among friends in Texas this
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weekend. Here's what columnist Dana Milbank wrote in a recent column in The Washington Post entitled
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A Hero of the Trump Right Shows His True Colors, Whites Only. He writes in part, quote,
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thank you, Viktor Orban, for showing us where the American right is heading. The Hungarian strongman
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who derailed his country's nascent democracy has been a darling of the MAGA crowd for his
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anti-immigrant policies. He has been invited as a featured speaker to next week's conservative
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political action conference in Texas alongside a who's who of Republican senators, governors and
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members of Congress, as well as former President Donald Trump himself. But Orban made things awkward
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for his American friends a few days ago during a July 23rd address. He gave voice to the belief
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underlying his nationalism. He opposes the mixing of races. His July 23rd speech was an extended
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articulation of the great replacement conspiracy idea. That was too much even for one of Orban's
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longtime advisers who resigned and lambasted the prime minister for, quote, a pure Nazi speech worthy
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of Goebbels. She suggested that, quote, advocating, he was, quote, advocating the openly racist policy
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that is now unacceptable even for the Western European extreme right. But not for the American right.
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CPAC's organizer confirmed on Wednesday that Orban is still scheduled to address the group
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next week. It was good of Orban to spell that out because now we know what Hungary's white
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nationalists and their American fanboys at CPAC have in mind when they rage against immigration
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and the great replacement. They want to take us back to the dark ages.
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Okay. Live from CPAC. It is the War Room. It is Thursday, 4 August, the year of our Lord,
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2022. I'm very honored to have, I guess, two instigators. Of course, I've got Mercedes and
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Matt Schlapp from the ACU and obviously the guys that oversee and put together CPAC, the chairman.
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Mercedes, first to you. You've ruined. Mika's morning's been ruined. Morning Mika's been ruined
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because of the schlaps, right? You've absolutely got her in lockdown. Far right, Sean Hannity.
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But I want to go to the buried lead. She says this is supposed to be conservatives and what they
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really are is far right. So tell us, CPAC has always been, since President Reagan before,
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the backbone of the conservative movement, has not? Oh, absolutely. I mean, we've had
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Ronald Reagan, which I think spoke 13 times here at CPAC. And, you know, Steve,
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I think when Mika is making these criticisms of what we are, so-called conservatives, you know,
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she actually married a once upon a time conservative, Joe Scarborough. I think it's on her,
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you know, she definitely, I think they both have lost their ways, Joe especially. And it's just
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unfortunate that she wants to literally attack everyday Americans who simply love America,
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they love God, and they love their families. And they realize that we are at really at the fight
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of our lives right now to save this country from getting bullied by the left who are trying to
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literally play this identity politics and call us all racist and constantly attack us for what we
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believe in, which is out of freedom. Look at this. I mean, I don't know what they want to call our
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marriage. You know, her people came from a much different part of the globe than my people came from.
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By the way, Schlapp, you married up. I did okay. I did okay. But here's the other thing,
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which is I'm in Hungary. We're at CPAC Hungary in Budapest. And all these people are talking about
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how racist conservatives are because of immigration or that. And I was like, how about this? How about
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in America, we stop killing our unborn children? You know, we're killing young, unborn kids of color.
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More blacks are aborted than are allowed to live. I'm not for that. You're not for that.
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They are the biggest hypocrites. They say that we're the racists. Stop funding Planned Parenthood.
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Stop funding the genocide of that young black child, those kids of color. I want to embrace
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them into our civilization. They want to give them a death sentence.
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One thing CPAC has done is that in going to Hungary and going to Brazil, because here we have
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Viktor Orban. We also have Bolsonaro. You have connected the tissue of a sovereigntyist movement
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or a conservative movement throughout the world. When you go to Hungary, it was jam-packed.
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Everybody in Europe was talking about it. Same with Bolsonaro. You're going to go to Mexico
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before the end of the year. You've already gone to Japan. You just came back from Israel and had
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5,000 young people were there. Talk to us about...
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I'll just say one thing. It's very hard to do white nationalism in Korea, in Japan, in Brazil.
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I mean, it's insane. I mean, it's about freedom and it's about ideas and it's about human dignity.
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By the way, that is the one reason they're most triggered. I mean, they've always been triggered
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to CPACs in the past. But one of the reasons is, is the caliber of speakers you're pulling
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around from the world and in the fact that it unites with the Trump movement.
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And there's a common theme. When you travel across the globe, I remember I was in Brazil
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and I say this story where we can't really understand the speaker. He's speaking Portuguese.
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I mean, I'm fluent in Spanish. Very different. We're sitting there and all of a sudden the
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speaker goes, fake news. And the whole crowd just rises to their feet because they are dealing
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with the indoctrination of the children from the left. They are dealing with fake news that
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won't cover in an objective way. And it's really hard for these politicians to be able to succeed
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in a lot of ways because they're trying to tear them down personally. And that's exactly the leftist
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tactics they're doing across the globe. They're bringing them to America. And their goal, Steve,
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is to call all of us far right. That is their goal, to try to just keep us in a corner. And we have to
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push back because conservatives are the majority in this country as part of our party and part of the
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Republican Party. We're the ones that can push back against the leftist agenda. And if we don't
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do it, then who's going to do it? Remember, this is why they cheat, Steve. Because if you're going
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to win at golf or tennis or whatever, you don't cheat because you're going to win big. When you're
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not going to win, what do you do? And you have no character. You cheat. Right. Right. So that tells
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me everything about who's the majority. They know we're the majority. They know we're right on the
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policies. They know it. And they have one thing left to do. Silence our voices and then steal our votes.
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And that's what they're doing. This is, and you're perfect because you ran this for President
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Trump. The Hispanic vote. A perfect example of why it's alive at the white nationals. The Hispanic
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vote. I had the head of the new TV service that's here at CPAC launching El Americano. He said he
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believes their number is 55 to 60 percent of Hispanics in this midterm voting for Republicans. Talk to us
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about that. Those values are core to the Hispanic community because they're core to the American
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conservative community. Well, and for so many Hispanics, this idea of freedom, that is fundamental.
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The idea of being able to practice their faith, the idea of raising their children in a place where
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they don't have to be worried of them being confused with their gender at the age of five. They don't want
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government in their lives. Many of these Hispanics fled socialism, fled communism, fled oppression to come
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to America so that their kids can live in safe communities. And what are we doing? We're allowing
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the Democrats to push an open borders policy. They don't want to fund the police as much as they say
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they're for the police now because they had to change their tactics. And they're extreme on abortion.
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I mean, there's so many of these issues that the Hispanic community is saying, wait a second here,
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I don't feel comfortable in this party. So yes, are they moving towards the right? Yes,
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but they're still swing voters and they're young Hispanic voters. And this is the moment in time
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for conservatives to close the deal. And Reagan did it. Well, okay, let's talk about that. I want
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you to address literally Mika and Morning Joe about your point. Joe Scarborough came, was obviously a
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guy who's a huge fan of Ronald Reagan. The point is we haven't moved off of Reagan's core beliefs,
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right? This is still the conservative movement. This is Ronald Reagan could come here today
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and it would be a rock star, right? So talk about, talk to Joe Scarborough, what, because every day
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they're hammering that we're far right. We've left the Reagan legacy behind. I mean, the reason I
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got involved in this conservative movement was 15 years ago, 20 years ago, I made that film about
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Ronald Reagan and him taking down communism. How do you connect Reagan's core values to what we do
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today? Do it because it's the Cuban experience too. Right. Well, I got to tell you, I mean, you always
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remember that moment of tear down that wall in Germany. And I, you know, and I think like it
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really sends a direct message. I think people need to realize that our democracy, our Republic is so
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fragile. We can lose our freedoms very quickly. It happened in Venezuela. It happened in Cuba.
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You're seeing this happening in Latin America, just even with the loss in the Colombian election.
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So for Joe Scarborough to go out there and try to be this prophet and try to be this moral crusader
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for the left, it's a betrayal of what we stand for, which is that of defending our freedoms here
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in America. If we are not able to allow for debate and discussion with the other side, if they're
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forcing down our throats, whether it be climate change or this craziness with the gender confusion
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and critical race theory, that's destructive to our families. And the family is the foundation
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to Western civilization. It is the foundation of our country and our faith. Yes. If we lose that,
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we lose everybody. Can I just say one thing to Mika and Joe who, you know, there was a time when we
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were on the show rather regularly. I was on CNN regularly. I was on MSNBC rather regularly. And
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I would just say to Joe, there was a time when you came to CPAC. We're the same people coming today
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that we were 10 years ago when you came. And the other piece is you love Donald Trump when it was
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good for your ratings. You love Donald Trump when you were bro buddies. You know, when you use the
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rooms at Mar-a-Lago, which is pretty swanky place, by the way, I don't blame you for liking it.
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But, you know, you turned on him when it was bad for you. But the same people are animating this
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movement who are animating it when you put them on your show day after day after day. And you liked it.
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How do I know that? You and I talked. You wanted me to help the campaign. You were all in on Donald
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Trump becoming president. And now you're not, for whatever your reasons, I can't know what your
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heart is. But how dare you attack the good people who are grassroots Americans, who simply want to
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take us back to a constitutional order. They don't like parents getting attacked. They don't think
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five-year-olds should be pushed on gender confusion. They don't think America is 16, 19 in BLM.
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They think America is George Washington and the great patriots who set this thing up. And you know
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that. And you know that. And you believe that. But you turned on us. You can turn on me. But don't
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turn on these people. Wow. The objective. It's fire Pelosi, save America. The two things. How we're
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going to win massively in November. And then what we're going to do to deserve that victory
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of turning the country around. Tell us. How do people get here? Tell us what you're going to
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accomplish. Who are the big speakers? What should they come for? Well, you first can still get tickets
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at conservative.org. We have an amazing... You might be standing, but you can come here.
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By the way, this is bigger than D.C. ever was. I mean, there's got to be 3,500 seats out there,
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right? I told you. Stay away from numbers. But it's a bigger room.
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Yeah. Trump asked me. I know. I'm sure he did. This Dallas is actually going to be bigger than
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last year's Dallas. Well, and we live stream it, which gets millions. I think Donald Trump last
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year got 35 million views just alone. Wow. And it's not only just... More than the Grammys and
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whatever it was. Combined. Combined. Oh, combined. Yeah. So, you know, I got to tell you,
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what I love about coming to these events, Steve, is that people connect. There's people from all over
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the country, all over the globe that come here to learn. And then they connect. And then they go
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back home. And then they say, I'm going to run for school board. Or I'm going to go support my
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candidate. Or I'm going to go knock on doors. And they realize what's at stake. And why? Because
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the neighbors, if they trust each other and they talk about the issues that matter, they're more
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important than us. You network at CPAC and you know you're not alone. So, how do people come and get
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tickets and then how they see the live stream? Well, you go to conservative.org to see the live
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stream. And you go there for tickets. We'd love to have you come here in hot Texas, Dallas, Texas.
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But get the tickets quickly. Can't they just watch War Room? Put in code. Well, we're going to be
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nonstop. Real America's Voice. We have a huge set up. Ed Henry starts in the morning. We're here.
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We're going to be all at four hours of live every day from War Room. By the way, put in code War Room.
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You get to do. We're going to have a gathering. Everybody's going to hang out. We're looking for
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all the posse. We got some of the posse members right back here. That's right. We'll be talking to the
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crowd. I want to thank you guys. I want to ask one thing. I'm putting you on the spot.
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I think you need to sign in a silver Sharpie one of the black shirts. And I think we should auction
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the thing off. What do you think? A camo? Deal. And we didn't say it, Steve, but one other thing
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to talk about, we're raising a lot of money for the legal defense for these J6. Where do they go
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for the J6? Go to our website. Go to the first amendment fund. That's right. The first amendment
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This is bigger than the old seat back in DC. That's right. So it's fantastic. Everybody
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to have to stand, but that's okay. It's President Trump. It's only going to be an hour and a half
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Okay, welcome. We're live at CPAC, and we got some war room posse here.
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Hold it. The deplorables. Full army of deplorables right here.
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Awaken deplorables. We're going to be doing interviews out there with our crowd, our gang,
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here momentarily. It's going to be a big crowd at CPAC today. It's like over 100 degrees outside in
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Dallas, but CPAC's close to being sold out. Anybody, a war room member, anybody around,
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make sure you go to conservative.org. Code war room. Put your name in. We're going to be special
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events here. Meet everybody. Hang out with the entire posse. I want to go now to, we got Peter
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Navarro and Steve Cortez. Peter, you call him from a cell block? I keep reading the news every other day.
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Every other day you can roll up. No, I know your lawyer is saying we can't talk about that. So
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that's, hold on. So brother, I got it. I got it. Let me go. Cortez, I got to, Cortez, let me start
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with you. Oh, you can go to him first after that shot. Okay. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Yes, yes, yes.
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I'm going to come. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Cortez, we got, Cortez, that shirt's not tight enough. That shirt's
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not tight enough, Navarro. Hey, Steve, Mercedes was here. We start with Morning Mika. Morning Mika
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is in a complete meltdown about CPAC, about Orban, Bolsonaro, you know, Bannon, Palin, Trump,
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all these far-right characters. The reality is, as you've been telling us, and you were one of the
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key members of President Trump's 2020 campaign, and in 2016, early on, saying, hey, the Hispanic vote
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is full MAGA, and they're deplorables, and we can roll that vote. We had the head of the new
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Hispanic language TV network, El Americano, on yesterday on the show, saying, hey, their target
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number's 56%. What say you, Steve Cortez? Is this a white nationalist movement, sir?
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The mass and the proud Latinas over to the America First movement. Let's talk numbers,
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by the way. CBS News, not exactly a right-wing organization, just put out some polling, and in
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their generic question about who you want to vote for for Congress this year, not a candidate, but
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just a party, they have Hispanics right now saying that they are 42% for Republicans and 45% for
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Democrats. That's within the margin of error, so it's essentially a tie. Now, to put that in context,
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four years ago from CBS polling in 2018 midterms, Hispanics were plus 40 for the Democrats,
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plus 40, all the way to essentially tied today. A 40 percentage point move in four years is an
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absolute political seismic move. It is truly a political earthquake. Why? Well, two reasons. On
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the one hand, the Democrats have effectively made Hispanics into political orphans by becoming an
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incredibly radical party that is in no way welcoming to people of any kind of traditional values and to
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people of hard work and entrepreneurial grit, which is really a definition of Hispanics. On the other
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hand, the America First movement, this muscular vision of nationalism, sovereignty, cultural
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conservatism, it's incredibly attractive to a lot of Hispanics. And let me broaden that out. I think
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it's attractive to working class people, period, whatever their ethnicity, whatever their race. It
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just so happens that most Hispanics fit in that category of working class Americans. So we continue
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to broaden the movement, the patriotic populist movement, and we continue to transform the Republican
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Party. Now, it's a process, and it can be frustrating at times, and there are still a lot of
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corporatist legacy elements in the Republican Party. But the reality is we are continually step-by-step
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transforming the Republican Party into a workers' movement, and that includes a whole lot of Hispanics.
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This is the case, you know, we're trying to, and one of the things we're trying to convince people is
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that we can not just win at the ballot box, but we can also govern. Talk to me about, your Navarro
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report was at the core of thinking through how the big steal took place. Give me your
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impression, sir, since you did so much work in analytics about Arizona. Walk me through what's
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happened in Maricopa County and Pinal County. How can we be two years, what is it, 18 months,
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19 months, 20 months after you published the Navarro report that went through line by line,
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the problems in Arizona, and particularly Maricopa County. Brother, how are we here 18 months later
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under Katie Hobbs and the Republican establishment in Maricopa County, and we still, we're at 82% of
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the vote counted, and they say they're going to drop another 5,000 votes tonight at 7 p.m. How
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First of all, Steve, you do clean up nice, and I love you at that standing desk. You got to do that
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in your home studio. You got to let me help you out with that. Chat room, give me a couple of thumbs
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up on that so he gets the idea. We're standing. We're standing.
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This, like, I talked to Carrie Lake early on in her run for governor, and I found her just to be an
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amazing person, and so I invested in that race. I endorsed her, and so I'm sitting there looking at
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the results. It's like midnight, 1 a.m., 2 a.m. It's like they get to 80%. I'm having flashbacks,
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Steve, of the presidential election night where they stopped the count, right? They stopped the
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count, and we know now they stopped the Trump count so they could figure out exactly how many
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votes they needed to steal the election in each of the battleground states, and so I'm doing like
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this deja vu stuff, so I figured at least by the morning, they'd have a result somehow that they
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could screw Carrie Lake, and we'd be done with it, but now, yeah, this goes on and on and on. It's a
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gift, Steve. This is the best ad for November Carrie Lake is going to have against Katie Hobbs. I mean,
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you can see it now. She can't even count the votes. How's she going to count for the governor? It's like,
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it just won't work, and it's like, it's just such an in-your-face result. We will get to the bottom
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of what happened in the railhead of Arizona. Look, it's a Republican. Yeah, but it's the
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Republican establishment does not want her to have any momentum cover the win. Guys, hang on for one
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second. I want to bring in Joe Kent. Joe Kent's getting the okey-doke up in the great state of
00:23:14.960
Washington. Joe Kent, give us an update in the second most important technological center in the
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United States after Silicon Valley. We're now two days out from the campaign, and they've, I don't
00:23:27.780
know, they counted 53, 70 percent of the vote. Joe Kent, what's going on, brother? Steve, we're at
00:23:34.620
about 70 percent. The numbers are sketchy, though, because this is a high turnout year, so I think a
00:23:39.760
lot of the projections we had going into this are a little bit on the low side, but it appears that
00:23:45.960
there is about 90,000 ballots left to be counted. Last night, we moved from being five points behind
00:23:52.140
to being about three points behind, so I am about 3,900 votes away from Jamie Herrera-Butler.
00:23:59.580
The impeachment voter was still around 90,000 ballots out there. Now, these ballots that remain,
00:24:06.000
we believe, we believe to be mostly day of voters. We think most of the mail-in votes have gotten
00:24:10.660
counted. For instance, I know I dropped my ballot off on election day at the county commissioner's
00:24:16.620
office, and I just checked the online status today, and they still haven't processed my ballot. So we
00:24:22.140
think most of the ballots that are out there are our voters, MAGA voters, so we're still very much in
00:24:26.700
the fight. These are game day voters, you think, coming from rural communities that are going to be
00:24:32.320
just like Carrie Lake. People remember, with Lauren Culp and Joe Kent, Carrie Lake was 10 points
00:24:38.640
down, right, when everybody went to bed, and all those game day voters, all the Trump voters,
00:24:44.180
all the deplorables come in, and what you've got is then a big shift in tide. Is that what we can
00:24:49.660
expect, Joe? Is that what you're thinking? That's what we're thinking. We are cautiously optimistic,
00:24:55.480
but right now it looks like the game day voters are what remains to be counted so far. We've had a
00:25:01.080
record so far of people that showed up and voted in person at the county auditor's offices. By in
00:25:06.940
person, I mean they actually physically carried their ballots in and dropped them off. That's as
00:25:10.140
close as we can get to in-person voting, unfortunately, here in the state of Washington,
00:25:14.680
but we believe most of those guys are, that's MAGA right there, people that held on to their ballots
00:25:19.240
because they don't trust this process. Joe, can you give us your social media because people
00:25:25.000
want to follow this 24-7 and track you and Culp? Yeah, please go to joekentforcongress.com.
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Also encourage people to go to wavote.com. I'll put that out on my social medias. They can check the
00:25:37.880
status of their ballots, and they can see if their ballot has been rejected. If your ballot's been
00:25:43.000
rejected, you have until the 16th to go down to your county auditor's office and fix your signature
00:25:48.560
or fix your ballot. So wavote.gov, I'll put that out. Check your ballot status.
00:25:56.300
Thank you, Joe Kent. Cortez, to you, brother, Carrie Lake had $30 million dropped on her head.
00:26:02.680
As you know, John Gibbs had millions dropped on his head. Joe Kent and Culp out there by the
00:26:08.660
establishment. Do they have any intention, do the banking, real estate, corporate interest in
00:26:14.660
Phoenix, Arizona, have any intention of giving control of that state to the sweep you just saw
00:26:20.780
of MAGA voters, Steve Cortez? Steve, they are not going to hand those keys over easily. The reason
00:26:27.720
they won't is because they're the keys to a sports car that they've been driving at the expense of
00:26:32.360
regular working-class Americans. Look, the administrative state has worked incredibly well
00:26:37.000
for the power structure, for the credentialed elites, and that's been the case for decades. They
00:26:41.700
have used globalization largely as the mechanism to punish regular Americans, and we shouldn't have
00:26:46.700
any fanciful notions that they're just going to hand power over in any orderly way, right? They are
00:26:52.100
fighting tooth and nail as we should expect. But here's the key, too. The oligarchy cannot withstand,
00:26:58.480
for now, the oligarchy is still not so cemented in power that the populist movement can still reclaim
00:27:05.100
our republic, and we're seeing that happen. But to your point, one of the biggest problems even in red
00:27:09.400
states where you elect Republican governors and Republican legislatures, right, is that the
00:27:13.420
corporate interest in those states, I think Georgia's a perfect example, Coca-Cola and UPS and Home Depot
00:27:19.640
in Atlanta, they end up dictating to the Republican Party what they do in that state. What we're saying
00:27:25.020
now and what this movement is demanding now via candidates like Carrie Lake and Joe Kent, both of
00:27:30.000
whom I believe are ultimately going to prevail here, is demanding, no, you will not be dictated to from
00:27:35.680
the corporatists. You are going to listen to the American people. But part of doing that is getting
00:27:39.520
to election practices that make sense. And this isn't rocket science, Steve. This isn't difficult.
00:27:44.300
We need to get to game day voting, voter ID, and paper ballots. And if we do that, we're going to have
00:27:49.820
accurate elections, and we're going to have results that day. Okay, we're taking a short break. Navarro,
00:27:56.040
just hang on, because I want to get your thoughts about what Carrie Lake, if Peter Navarro,
00:28:00.260
the fighter was in Arizona, what Peter Navarro would be doing today to bring this thing to a head.
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Brad from Liberty is in here for the next couple of days. He's going to be one of my wingmen in and
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out. I've got Navarro. I've got Cortez. Before I go to Peter Navarro, I've got Cortez. The Bank of
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England announced today, their analysis, the Bank of England, they increased an interest rate pop,
00:31:15.700
the biggest they've done in 25 years, actually the biggest they've done since they've been
00:31:19.080
independent from the British government. Okay, biggest interest rate pop. In addition, bad news
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for the Democrats. They said inflation is going to peak in October at 13%,
00:31:29.840
and it won't get back to Trump's 2% until at least mid to late 2025. In addition, they said, hey,
00:31:38.820
a long and bitter recession. Steve Cortez, the Bank of England telling us something that we should,
00:31:44.740
are they being more truthful to the American people from London than J-PAL and this class,
00:31:51.180
the clowns here in the United States? Because you compare what the Bank of England just said today,
00:31:55.640
and you compare that to what happy talk we've been hearing here, and we try to give you the
00:32:01.000
numbers every day of Brad and Navarro and Cortez. Who's telling the truth? The Federal Reserve or the
00:32:06.060
Bank of England, sir? So, Steve, it's refreshing. It really is to hear central bankers actually tell
00:32:11.420
the truth, to not lie to their people and say that this is, quote, transitory or that we're,
00:32:16.420
quote, in transition. No, they gave it straight to the British people and said we're going to be in a
00:32:20.780
recession. They said by the end of the year and inflation is going to continue to run at absolutely
00:32:25.340
unacceptable levels. I would also add, Steve, to connect this to politics, this is one of the
00:32:29.080
reasons that Boris Johnson, thankfully, is on his way out. The U.S. and the U.K. have been by far
00:32:34.540
the worst among industrial nations when it comes to growth and when it comes to inflation. The Anglo-American
00:32:39.940
alliance, economically speaking, is worst in show right now. We're doing so much worse on inflation
00:32:45.260
than our peer countries, than France and Switzerland and South Korea and other advanced nations.
00:32:50.320
But, you know, to bring it back to the United States and what I was talking about there in
00:32:53.700
my chalk talk, Steve, those numbers in terms of the percentage of small businesses that can't pay
00:32:58.560
their rent, 45 percent of restaurants in America didn't pay their rent in July. That's not a recession
00:33:05.160
number, Steve. That's a depression number. So, to me, it's no longer even some academic point about
00:33:10.980
whether or not we're in a recession. We are in a deep recession. That is very clear, OK? And the evidence
00:33:15.800
and data tell me that, not the opinion of Steve Cortez or even Peter Navarro as esteemed
00:33:20.300
as those opinions might be. The numbers tell us we are in a recession. It's a deep one.
00:33:24.680
And to me, the danger, Steve, really here, I'm not trying to be too alarmist,
00:33:28.200
but if we make the wrong policy decisions from here, it can tip into depression.
00:33:35.920
But here's the good news, Cortez. To alleviate your fears, Dr. Peter Navarro,
00:33:42.620
the brilliant economist Joe Manchin has come up with Chuck Schumer, another brilliant economist,
00:33:47.760
a great businessman. They've come up with Joe Biden and the group there with the, what is it,
00:33:54.480
the Inflation Reduction Control Act? The Inflation Control Act. Peter, the Inflation Control Act,
00:34:04.300
Well, it's more like a sitcom, one of these HBO specials where it's like, what can we call this
00:34:11.560
that's so far removed from what it actually is, just to be our inside joke on the American people.
00:34:18.080
Here's the thing. If you do the numbers on this Inflation Reduction Act, the primary spike in
00:34:25.060
prices comes over the next two years. And over the next year is going to be the critical time
00:34:31.860
whether policymakers can break the back of what's going to be a wage price spiral and bring
00:34:37.440
stagflation down into control before it really gets a head start. Remember my background here,
00:34:44.180
Steve, I don't know if you can see it, but this is the 1970s stagflation. So this Inflation Reduction
00:34:51.940
Act, are you kidding me? I think it's going to be really important for Cary Lake in Arizona
00:34:57.700
to run on the MAGA platform, which is a strong economy and secure borders and an endless war.
00:35:06.300
And all of this ties together because this Inflation Reduction Act is going to make things
00:35:10.660
worse. The other thing on the Bank of England thing, the other thing I want to say about that
00:35:14.500
to the Steves is once the Fed starts raising interest rates, that actually boosts the US dollar
00:35:22.720
and it puts deep pressure on the pound and the euro and central banks around the world who are
00:35:28.860
forced then to raise interest rates as well. And that becomes a global contraction. So for all the
00:35:36.780
reasons Steve Cortez gave, the Bank of England did what it did. But it's also true they were protecting
00:35:44.680
Let me draft off both those comments for a second. Cortez, and I want everybody in the war room
00:35:49.640
posse to understand this because we pride ourselves of being ahead of the core on finance, capital
00:35:54.380
markets, economics, so that you can make better decisions in your own life. And we pride ourselves
00:35:59.660
on being a news show that actually incorporates that as part of a holistic look at the world
00:36:04.240
because if you're not looking at capital markets, you're not going to look at money, if you're not
00:36:07.580
going to look at the economy, anybody who talks about politics is not linked with that. It's just
00:36:13.220
that's all noise. Okay. In the signal, Steve Cortez said something and Navarra, you and Cortez
00:36:19.100
since the spring of 2021 with the American Recovery Act, you guys started warning about
00:36:26.840
stagflation. You were a year ahead of everybody else. You're the first guys to say this inflation
00:36:31.640
is not going to be transitory. We had Krugman, you had 34 Nobel Prize winners saying that you had the
00:36:36.160
New York Times, Wall Street Journal. The warning today is quite different. And the warning today is when
00:36:41.860
you look at the math and cut away the happy talk, you are one or two policy decisions away from
00:36:48.100
a depression. And people have to understand these are not decisions that can be easily reversed.
00:36:54.020
And right now, you've got a cast of clowns that nobody has faith in. From Powell to Yellen.
00:36:59.240
Steve, Steve, stay with that. That is a brilliant point. Steve, it's a brilliant point, as you said.
00:37:04.640
One or two policy decisions. You're one policy decision away. The Inflation Reduction Act,
00:37:09.460
you pass that. It's no way you control stagflation. Back to you, sir.
00:37:15.000
Absolutely. Because all the happy talk. By the way, Chris and Sinema came out. The only part of
00:37:18.580
that bill I liked at all was the tax on carried interest. And Sinema came out last night and said
00:37:24.500
the one change she has to have is no, is not, hey, no offense. Sinema's gone full hedge fund,
00:37:29.820
full VC, right? We understand now Phoenix is going to be a capital of high tech, right? Because
00:37:35.340
the money's coming down there. Brett, is Steve Cortez and Peter Navarro right? Are we one or two
00:37:40.400
policy decisions away from driving us into a depression that can't be reversed for an entire
00:37:45.660
decade? Correct. And we're one geopolitical event away, right? China, Taiwan, any additional shocks to
00:37:53.480
the economy were doomed. I read an article yesterday, which New Jersey's having a hard time still spending
00:37:59.380
the money they got from COVID, right? So the sugar high is not quite done. It hasn't quite made its
00:38:04.720
way through the funnel all the way. Once that comes to an end, then what these guys have been saying
00:38:09.540
for the last two years comes true. And the labor markets finally show up. That's the last shoe to
00:38:14.420
drop, right? Once it hits the labor markets, then the middle class gets whacked and the news cycle
00:38:20.780
changes. On that topic, Cortez, you and I, give me the buried lead we saw yesterday. All the happy talk
00:38:24.960
from the White House. It's all labor markets strong. We have said on the show, look at the underlying
00:38:29.340
hiring intact. Look at all those numbers in retail are going to come home to roost. Steve Cortez,
00:38:34.180
tell me about the labor numbers off of Dave Brad. Yes. And to that point, we've seen the first
00:38:38.940
significant crack in the job market, and that is job openings. Okay. Job openings have been expanding
00:38:44.700
and remaining extremely elevated basically throughout the recovery off of the spring of 2020 lows. But
00:38:49.960
guess what? The last two months, they have dropped demonstrably. 600,000 fewer job openings
00:38:56.300
this month, or excuse me, it's July, but in July versus June and fewer than May previously. So that
00:39:02.500
is a very significant drop, way below expectations. The markets we're looking for, Wall Street economists
00:39:07.940
were looking for 11.25 million job openings. It came in at only 10.7 million job openings. That is a
00:39:14.700
very significant miss. It's a massive drop, and I fear it's going to be the worst of a lot of drops.
00:39:19.560
And Steve, listen, to some extent, it almost has to happen because just think about the sequence
00:39:23.740
here. If 45% of restaurants in America, and again, this is a huge survey from Alignable. This
00:39:28.700
isn't a small sampling, 3,500 total small businesses surveyed. If almost half of restaurants couldn't
00:39:34.240
pay their July rent, okay, that's the first bill they miss. But then the next cutback, it only makes
00:39:39.240
sense, is going to be, I have to start cutting staff. And that is going to continue to happen. I think
00:39:44.020
it's already unfolding. It's going to accelerate going forward. And so this paints a picture,
00:39:49.420
again, of an economy, you know, stop listening at all to corporate media debating whether or not
00:39:54.240
we're in recession. The question from here is whether or not. Brad just told us, we still
00:40:01.560
have the sugar high. There's still money out there. Think about it. You've got 45% of restaurants
00:40:06.980
not making rent. In August and September, they're not going to be making payroll. They're going to have
00:40:12.440
to cut that payroll back. You still got sugar high. This is why, as I predicted, they were going to come
00:40:17.160
back after the break and have a massive stimulus bill. Guess what? They jumped it before they left.
00:40:23.120
Navarro, back it up. You're saying this thing's inflationary. If the Inflation Control Act passes,
00:40:32.720
You're passing a Keynesian stimulus bill at the same time that the Federal Reserve says inflation
00:40:41.180
is their number one enemy and they're raising interest rates. That should never happen. You
00:40:47.440
should never have fiscal policy and monetary policy fighting it out. And we know that monetary policy
00:40:54.380
is losing. Inflation is spiraling out of control. The last thing, Steve, that you would do would be to
00:41:00.840
add on top of what we face now, that one policy decision that's going to further spike inflation and
00:41:07.920
then call it the Inflation Reduction Act, just to be in your face about it. So this is serious.
00:41:15.180
I go back to the fall of 2020, leading in to the 2020 election, and I sent a memo to Trump
00:41:22.080
and Meadows and said, hey, we're facing this stagflationary crisis. What we really need to do
00:41:28.200
here, and it remains true, is bring home our manufacturing, fix our supply chains, have those
00:41:35.860
manufacturing jobs available to people, increase productivity, and do all the things, and by the
00:41:42.300
way, have cheap energy, that would contain what is a stagflationary crisis now. And the one thing
00:41:49.440
Janet Yellen was right about, she warned of permanent scarring in the economy as we lose small
00:41:56.700
businesses. What I said in that memo was that what they don't understand on Capitol Hill is when you
00:42:02.060
lose a small business, you don't get it back. It's not like you can turn that spigot on and off.
00:42:08.100
That's what that court, that court, that's the scariest thing I've heard in a month. And I've heard a lot of
00:42:14.420
scary things. That's scary, Steve. To connect that back to politics, because Peter makes a great point
00:42:19.740
here, right, about we can't just expect that small business can pop back. And I'm not sure this isn't
00:42:25.540
entirely unplanned. And what I mean by that is the concentration of power, right, is a clear goal of
00:42:32.000
the regime, of the oligarchs. And this might not be entirely by accident. Eliminating small business
00:42:37.580
is the economic equivalent of trying to weaken the family on the social side, right? And they go hand in
00:42:42.720
glove, by the way, right? So the diffusion of power has always been one of the hallmarks, one of the
00:42:47.980
pillars of our movement, subsidiarity. And what we see in destroying small business is the exact
00:42:53.220
opposite of the diffusion of power, the opposite of subsidiary. This is the concentration of power
00:42:58.100
on a massive scale. So remember that, that I hate to be this cynical, but these policymakers
00:43:03.460
might be just fine with what's going on right now. Yep. And real quick, what Steve just said,
00:43:09.500
we're one policy mistake away from disaster. And just for the folks out there, you're feeling
00:43:14.960
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00:43:19.800
I heard, were saying, because we got some good policy people coming on board, we're going to
00:43:24.840
have a hard time getting past the one-yard line for the touchdown, getting these folks elected.
00:43:29.840
So stay informed. If we don't get the good policy guys into office, none of this good stuff happens.
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was complaining. It was a little slow, a little dry with Cortez and Navarro, but are bringing
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the one and only Mike Lindell. Hey, what do we, what do we have to say to Walmart for canceling
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Mike Lindell? Mike Lindell, thank you. So honored to have you join us, brother. And I'm announcing
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here, but Lindell is going to be with us for the entire next hour. We've got Pasova. We've got Dr.
00:47:58.200
Malone. We've got everybody. Let me go to closing thoughts. Dr. Navarro, I know you got to go work
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with your lawyers today. Any, any closing thoughts before we let you bounce? It was a great day
00:48:10.000
yesterday. Arizona is really the key. It's the railhead, Steve. As you've said many times,
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one fall, they all fall. Um, we're going to, as, as a team have to really get behind Lake Fincham
00:48:26.540
masters, um, and, and make sure that that team is, is for the people in Arizona so that we can get to
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the bottom of what happened there and also, uh, build the kind of strong economy and secure borders
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that we're going to have. Arizona can be a microcosm for that. Abbott needs some help. He's
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been trying to sue the feds to secure that border. We get Carrie Lake down there in Arizona. That's
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going to be another, another good thing on the economy. See, just the last thought here, uh, we
00:49:01.640
are on the precipice of the worst stagflation we've had since the 1970s. And you, you, you're brilliantly
00:49:10.320
saying that we're one or two policy decisions away from a point of no return. And we need to focus on
00:49:19.080
this inflation reduction act and hope something goes wrong on the way to those clowns passing that,
00:49:24.800
because that could be the one, uh, that drives us over the edge. But I'll let, let you go here
00:49:30.080
and see pack. You look great. They're standing up at that desk. My brother, Lindell, uh, we're going to
00:49:34.940
be the new standup. Navar has been bugging me for years about doing his standup. I'm going to do it
00:49:41.000
like he used to do the old Bright Barberia. Peter, what's your social media? Yeah, uh, real
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Peter Navarro, but go to, uh, peternavarro.com. That'll get you to Taking Back Trump's America book.
00:49:50.760
It'll get you to Getter, the Twitter killer. Uh, and you can read up on, uh, the latest in the soap
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opera, otherwise known as my, uh, legal issues, uh, with the feds. Uh, but, uh, they didn't change,
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but I need your help there. Yeah. Yeah. Bye. Let's order the book on Amazon.
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By the way, let's go to right now, Amazon board of the book. They didn't chain up, uh, Navarro
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yesterday. So you're making progress. Steve Cortez is, uh, is, uh, Navarro, right? Do we have to
00:50:21.240
outvote the fraud and outvote the money like we did in Arizona, sir? Amen. We, we, we have to,
00:50:27.640
and we will. So Admiral Bannon, I will tell you, listen, as pessimistic as I am near term on the
00:50:32.480
economy, I am just as optimistic right now about the political trajectory of this country and this
00:50:38.700
movement. What we did on Tuesday night was incredible, uh, but we can't rest and celebrate.
00:50:43.780
We have to fight on, on to November and onto victory. We're going to send a group of America
00:50:48.260
first champions who are going to truly represent us in Washington, DC. People like John Gibbs,
00:50:53.160
Blake masters, Carrie Lake and her state Capitol. And then in Washington, DC, more people like
00:50:57.360
Laxalt and Katie Britt and JD Vance. It's going to happen. Uh, we need to work and pray.
00:51:03.760
Yeah. Tudor Dixon in Michigan. It's going to be incredible. Steve, you're, uh, how do you get
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to your sub stack, your show, all of it? Yeah. Please follow me on the, uh, getter. I'm
00:51:13.220
at Steve, very simple. And then at Twitter, I'm at Cortez, Steve Cortez with an S.
00:51:19.220
Brad and Brad, tell us your closing thoughts. Are we one step of one policy step away from a great
00:51:24.000
depression? Yeah, we are. And the, uh, we, we had great candidates elected yesterday. And so keep
00:51:30.680
making noise. This is not time to take a pause. They need your support, uh, going through the
00:51:35.020
finish line and, uh, and, and put the heat on leadership. What happened to me, what happened
00:51:40.580
to some of the, uh, folks who take on the establishment, you don't get any money from the
00:51:44.420
party. Keep your eyes on that, write news articles on that, make sure your candidates are being
00:51:48.560
supported by the conservative party who is support, supposed to support people who love
00:51:53.680
America and want the best, uh, for our economy.
00:51:57.280
Brad, how do people follow now that you're finally up on getter? Thanks to Dave Brat's
00:52:01.820
wife who finally taught him how to use social media. I'm not sure you know how to use it,
00:52:09.760
What are you doing? You're here at CPAC for the next couple of days.
00:52:13.200
Liberty University is the cutting edge of business schools. Tell us, what are you trying to accomplish
00:52:18.580
Yeah, see, I just love meeting the young folks. Uh, and, and, uh, and some of my old friends
00:52:23.080
and politics around. So I, I just spread the good news on Liberty. Come visit me on the third floor
00:52:27.320
up there. I'm Dean of the business school. And then here, it's just fun to be with the old friends,
00:52:32.040
uh, Liberty loving people. It's fun to be with people who like you and I love everybody back.
00:52:36.200
And that's what this is all about. CPAC, Mac and Mercedes Schlapp do an outstanding job and having
00:52:42.200
Bannon here in the war room posse and all this excitement around here. Uh, they're driving the energy
00:52:48.840
By the way, you're an economist, uh, Cortez, a street guy, Navarro's from Harvard. Did, did Walmart
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miss its earnings because they took the classic pillow at the $19.88 cent? You go to mypillow.com
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promo code warm right now again. Is that why they missed earnings? And by the way, they announced
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yesterday they're laying off hundreds of executives at Walmart corporate.
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Yes. I'll give a little fed speak. It's unambiguous that the empirical evidence is they drove the
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arrow in the wrong direction by getting rid of the main man here. Amen. Dave, Brad, thank you.
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One sane thing in Minnesota. Okay, Steve Cortez, thank you. Peter Navarro,
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always thank you, sir. Have a good day today. Brad, thank you for dropping by. I look forward to seeing you
00:53:36.680
tomorrow. Dave Brad will be back with us. We're going to take a short commercial break. When we return,
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Mike Lindell's committed. He's going to co-host with me in the second hour. We got Dr. Robert Malone.
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We got Jack Bosovic in studio. We've got the entire war room posse here. The CPAC starts to
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fill up. We're going to do something. We're going to do some interviews with the deplorables right
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