00:00:00.000Well, the virus has now killed more than 100 people in China and new cases have been confirmed
00:00:04.660around the world. So you don't want to frighten the American public. France and South Korea have
00:00:09.160also got evacuation plans. But you need to prepare for and assume. Broadly warning Americans to avoid
00:00:15.620all non-essential travel to China. That this is going to be a real serious problem. France,
00:00:20.400Australia, Canada, the U.S., Singapore, Cambodia, Vietnam, the list goes on. Health officials are
00:00:25.200investigating more than 100 possible cases in the US. Germany, a man has contracted the virus.
00:00:31.900The epidemic is a demon, and we cannot let this demon hide. Japan, where a bus driver0.92
00:00:37.120contracted the virus. Coronavirus has killed more than 100 people there and infected more than 4,500.
00:00:44.520We have to prepare for the worst, always, because if you don't, and the worst happens.
00:00:49.540war room pandemic here's your host stephen k bannon it's thursday 25 august year of our lord
00:00:59.1002022 massive breaking news this afternoon i want to go to tom finton ahead of judicial watch
00:01:03.900uh the magistrate judge made a decision today tom one can you tell our audience you and the
00:01:09.260new york times and others but you and the new york times are the tip of the spear to go in
00:01:13.000uh and and and want want this document walk through what your objective was the beginning
00:01:18.340what is the magistrate's ruling today? Well, in this case, the New York Times
00:01:22.940follow our lead. You know, we leapt to, you know, immediate action once we saw this abusive
00:01:29.260political raid of Trump's home. We asked for an immediate, you know, we immediately asked for
00:01:36.400the court to unseal the warrant and the supportive materials. We knew there'd be
00:01:43.060likely an affidavit. The Justice Department was forced into releasing the warrant initially,
00:01:51.580and then the court wanted answers from the DOJ about this affidavit discussion and ordered the
00:01:59.500Justice Department and rejected the Justice Department's efforts to keep this material
00:02:03.900completely sealed and said, look, there's material here that can be unsealed despite what you're
00:02:08.720saying that we're going to see what's unsealed tomorrow because the court has been satisfied that
00:02:14.160the material they've released is obviously appropriate and the material that they haven't
00:02:20.360released is also appropriate. And so we'll see what's released and then we'll see if we need to
00:02:25.440fight more for transparency. It's my position, Steve, that you can't raid a president's home
00:02:32.120for secret reasons. It's as simple as that. And what's been out there, the modified limited hangout
00:02:40.180shows they really have contempt for the court process because they're telling the court,
00:02:43.780we need secrecy. We don't want anyone to know what we know and who we talk to.
00:02:48.300While at the same time, they're leaking all of that directly to their media allies.
00:02:53.560And, you know, they expect us, the American people, to be satisfied
00:02:58.780with whatever they tell us as they take this unprecedented move, in my view,
00:03:06.400against a Republican form of government by targeting the president on such specious grounds.
00:03:12.580Well, the magistrate really agreed with you, at least he said it was unprecedented.
00:03:15.500Tom, this is not your first rodeo in affidavits and FISA and search warrants.
00:03:20.380Give us your background and why you're so skeptical and kind of cynical about what the FBI
00:03:27.240is in this affidavit and what the FBI actually told the magistrate?
00:03:32.360Well, they lied to spy on Trump, this FBI, this Justice Department with these FISA warrants. I
00:03:39.340think, what's the count? 17 material omissions or misstatements in those FISA warrants that
00:03:46.700resulted in the spying on Carter and indirectly on Trump. And of course, there was all sorts of
00:03:51.200gamesmanship with direct spying on trump through the fbi and then you know directly we had fought
00:03:58.740this very issue over bill clinton's sock floor tapes he kept tapes of conversations that an
00:04:05.460author had recorded of conversations he had with members of congress and foreign leaders which are
00:04:12.020presumptively classified and we took the position the justice department's now taking look he's got
00:04:17.120these records the archives should go after them and the justice department came back and they said
00:04:22.280if he has those records they're presumptively personal and the court found that the president's
00:04:28.520decision making in terms of presidential versus personal and what he keeps is something that
00:04:34.120can't be second-guessed by the court or the archives and i saw early on and back in february
00:04:40.160they turned on a dime and started pretending that the records the president had at his home were
00:04:44.980government records and they weren't and my view steve you should never turn anything over at least
00:04:50.900under the gut under the rubric that they had which was that these were presidential records
00:04:55.540and or classified you should have said look these are my personal record if you want to keep them
00:05:00.380uh because you're concerned about security issues or uh you know or you for history i'm happy to
00:05:06.720give them to you and voluntarily share these class these personal records with you but they're mine
00:05:13.300And I'm giving you to the bond thoroughly. And that wasn't the approach his team took. And lo and behold, he ended up getting ready.
00:05:22.480Tommy, actually, hang on a second. We'll go to Boris Epstein. Before I go to Boris, given the rapidity of which the judge made the decision day, is in your mind, Judicial Watch, is this at least where we stand till we see the redaction? Is this a victory so far?
00:05:35.780it is the warrant typically would never have been released the uh affidavit they did not want to
00:05:43.320release at all so uh we have more information than we otherwise would have and obviously we
00:05:50.400want more transparency uh because the justice department really has no good faith reason to
00:05:56.800hide this from the american people because as i said they've been leaking and the public interest
00:06:01.820outweighs any interest they have in keeping this material secret. You can't raid a president's home
00:06:08.160and expect people to be quiet about it and not demand accountability and transparency.
00:06:14.180And the court should recognize that and use its powers as it has to release this stuff publicly.
00:06:20.680There's nothing under law that requires that any of this be kept secret. This is all discretionary
00:06:25.540on the part of the Justice Department and ultimately the court.
00:06:28.360tom hang on for one second i'll bring boris epstein in by phone boris give us your assessment
00:06:34.120i know you're importing meetings today give us your assessment of the drone because i think we
00:06:38.000talked to you earlier you didn't even you thought the magistrate might take a couple of days
00:06:41.660even to decide well give us your update on your thinking steve thank you so much an honor to be
00:06:48.220with you honor to be with the war on posse today the the judge obviously had his mind largely made
00:06:53.980up that that the proposed redactions you know unless they were overwhelming as he said before
00:07:00.320were going to be what what he approved we'll see tomorrow i think it's very tough to judge you know
00:07:05.680to judge and assess as of now you know just how extensive this is going this is going to be uh
00:07:11.760and what we'll see in the affidavit here's what i will tell you that what you're going to see in
00:07:16.580that in the affidavit and the application is absolutely incorrect as it applies to president
00:07:22.560Trump, because these statutes that were used do not include the only statute applying to
00:07:28.740President Trump, and that's the Presidential Records Act.
00:07:31.260The PRA, the Presidential Records Act, is the only statute which has any application
00:07:36.320at all on dot, dot, dot, presidential records.
00:07:40.720The Presidential Records Act also does not have an enforcement mechanism.
00:07:44.300Because of that lack of enforcement mechanism, what you have here is the GOJ corruptly doing
00:07:49.320an end around a circumvention of that act and throwing out these other acts which did not apply
00:07:55.220to president trump in any way whatsoever and that is what the positive should expect to see
00:08:01.040in this affidavit and you know and further than that this judge likely and as it appears from his
00:08:08.780orders feels that he was either duped fooled or forced to sign this warrant because this warrant
00:08:16.820not only applied the wrong statutes which don't apply to president trump it also overwhelmingly
00:08:22.340likely that the affidavit did not include the multiple instances of full and utter cooperation
00:08:28.920between the applicable agencies the archivist the doj and president trump and his team and if that
00:08:36.140affidavit if what we see if the if the version we see tomorrow does not let it be known for the
00:08:41.260whole world that there was full cooperation between president trump and his team and every
00:08:45.380applicable agency we will have to assume that that information was not given to the judge
00:08:51.120and that act of omission was used by the doj for the un-american unwarranted unnecessary and
00:08:58.560unlawful raid and break-in of the president's home beautiful mar-a-lago i just want to make
00:09:04.560sure i get this correctly you're saying that the affidavit tomorrow will show one of three things
00:09:09.700he was either duped fooled or forced uh to to to agree to this uh search warrant is that what i'm
00:09:16.980hearing that's what i expect to see because we know for a fact we know for a fact that there
00:09:23.140was full compliance and cooperation from president trump and his team with the national archives with
00:09:30.340the doj and there was absolutely no need for this unwarranted unnecessary and unconstitutional
00:09:36.580break-in of the president's home. And we know that the DOJ has a long and extensive history of
00:09:41.900omission and commission in these affidavit and warrant applications. Look at FISA, look at
00:09:48.920General Flynn, look at Carter Page, so on and so forth. So again, I fully expect that this
00:09:56.580affidavit, the application for the warrant, if it is left unredacted enough, will show that this
00:10:05.700judge should have never signed that warrant. Beyond that, if what we see tomorrow does not
00:10:12.400fully spell out, and if the DOJ did it, they should leave it unredacted. If it doesn't spell
00:10:17.840out that there was full cooperation between President Trump and the DOJ, it doesn't talk
00:10:23.620about the June 3rd meeting where President Trump said, let us know if we need anything else.
00:10:27.760If it doesn't have that in there, that means that the DOJ lied to the judge by omitting that
00:10:35.260vital information. Before I go back to Tom Fitton, Boris, I know you've got to jump back in your
00:10:40.680meetings. Any update you can give us? You're not really a party to today's events, but tomorrow
00:10:44.940you're making your filings in the Southern District of Florida. Any updates on the filings?
00:10:49.140Those filings are very important, Stephen. What those requests from Judge Cannon are,
00:10:55.040Judge Cannon, a judge in the Southern District of Florida sits in Fort Pierce. What those are,
00:10:59.680are requests for supplemental motion. And you're going to see robust information that again lays
00:11:05.240out that the acts applied and the warrant were wrong that that that spells out why the special
00:11:11.940master appointment has to go through the district court as it has done has been done in the southern
00:11:16.500district of new york and why this judge judge can has the proper jurisdiction over this case
00:11:21.780these are the uh judge reinhardt who wrongfully approved that warrant and you are correct steven
00:11:26.700tom fitten judicial watch we're doing a great job on this the president who has made his position
00:11:31.220very clear publicly about judge reinhardt and uh and the need for him to refuse himself because a
00:11:36.820he's recused himself before and b because of his very negative and obviously biased statements
00:11:42.620against president trump president trump and his legal team are not a party to this motion practice
00:11:47.540to these to these filings regarding the affidavit the filing for filings of president trump and his
00:11:53.660team are to come tomorrow boris what's your social media people can follow you no doubt about it
00:12:00.700Steve. Lots happening. Pleasure to be here. It's an honor to be updating the war room posse on
00:12:04.920President Trump standing up for America, standing up for our Constitution, and standing up for all
00:12:09.480presidents. This isn't just about President Trump. This is about all presidents and their right not
00:12:14.800to be railroaded by a politicized, weaponized law enforcement. BorisCP.com is the website. Hot
00:12:20.580on BorisCP.com. Hot on Getter at BorisCP. On Twitter at BorisCP. Hot on Truth Social at Boris
00:12:25.940and the hottest on the gram, Boris underscore Epstein. Stay strong. God bless, and I'll talk
00:12:30.300you tomorrow. Thank you, Boris. My beloved father, who just passed away at 100 years old earlier this
00:12:36.000year, was a longtime donor to Judicial Watch and would always tell me, particularly during the
00:12:42.600Obama years, when Eric Kohler, he said, you know, Tom Fitton really runs the People's Justice
00:12:47.840Department. And he said, Tom Fitton is the single best man in Washington, D.C. Tom, and that's a
00:12:54.800pretty high uh that's a pretty high uh remark where i come from do you believe do you buy what
00:13:00.500boris just said uh that that you're going to see tomorrow with the details in this affidavit that
00:13:05.160you quite frankly broke free here the new york times kind of drafted off you that the magistrate
00:13:09.460was either duped fooled or forced into signing the search search warrant yeah i don't know you
00:13:15.720know forced you don't really it's hard to force the judge to do anything uh but when you present
00:13:20.440material in a dishonest way to the court, and this is where I think the breakdown in honesty
00:13:26.780is going to emerge once this affidavit is released, and it will be released, I think,
00:13:31.380eventually in large measure, is that they told the judge, they told the magistrate,
00:13:38.120this is classified material. These are presidential records. This is government property.
00:13:43.600And as I've highlighted, that's a disputed legal assertion. And it's one that is at odds with prior Justice Department and Archives decision making and the court's decisions previously on this in D.C. Amy Berman Jackson, one of the most liberal judges here up in D.C., found the Archives has no role in determining what records are what.
00:14:09.160But who are we kidding here? And if they didn't tell the court that there's a dispute here as to whether these are government versus personal records, then then he was due. And but, you know, in the end, what they got around, they got away with spying on an incoming president, spying on a president.
00:14:28.180And I suspect they're willing to do anything because they think they'll get away with raiding his home based on a sham reading of the law and dishonesty with the court.
00:14:38.620I mean, that's the danger you're in when you don't have this accountability.
00:14:42.020They'll keep on doing it until they're really held accountable as people remain.
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00:16:25.340War Room Pandemic with Stephen K. Bannon.
00:16:28.980The epidemic is a demon, and we cannot let this demon hide.
00:16:33.300War Room. Pandemic. Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.
00:16:40.000Tom, we've got Tom Fitton with us at Judicial Watch.
00:16:42.500Tom, I just want to give people some perspective.
00:16:44.480You really rose to prominence taking on Eric Holder every day, Fast and Furious.
00:16:49.240I mean, the battles you had during the Obama administration and Judicial Watch were nothing short of epic.
00:16:54.900And now with Garland. Walk our audience through it.
00:16:57.940compare obama's justice department and with garland and was there any relief in the in the
00:17:05.320four years of trump in the justice department sir there was some mild relief because of the
00:17:10.500president's personal commitment to transparency that sometimes forced out the documents despite
00:17:15.920the insistence of his own political appointees in the justice department not only under just
00:17:21.740Sessions, but under H.G. Barr. Look, I mean, we were in court earlier this year fighting the
00:17:30.060Biden administration over the key document that was used to open up the spying on Trump,
00:17:39.080the memo written to himself by Strzok, authorizing himself to spy on Trump. Incredible,
00:17:45.320incredible corruption. And we're fighting them tooth and nail on what's getting released.
00:17:50.380And, you know, I couldn't. The disappointing thing, obviously, was fighting, but also remembering that we probably would have had the same type of battle with the prior Justice Department.
00:18:01.200The resting state of the deep state is secrecy.
00:18:06.840And there has to be a proactive commitment by the president.
00:18:12.080And we had that with Trump, but also by his appointees, the transparency, especially about these matters of corruption.
00:18:18.980And as far as I'm concerned, the Justice Department and the FBI can't be trusted to prosecute a jaywalking case, let alone anything sensitive like this.
00:18:29.540And it's because of this contempt for the people's right to know in large measure, in addition to the corruption that's being covered up with their illicit secrecy.
00:18:41.320The New York Times and other media companies are party to this. But if Tom Fenton and the Judicial Watch, as you often say, had not taken the lead and been all over this, you essentially shamed them into coming in on this.
00:18:54.380So this is your baby. What do you anticipate tomorrow in the redaction? And where does Judicial Watch go in this in this endeavor?
00:19:01.280Well, you know, to really have information will be information designed to make Donald Trump look bad. So that's virtually guaranteed. But we'll see. You know, this is the modified limited hangout approach to disclosure of corrupt government action by the Garland Justice Department.
00:19:21.900You know, it's interesting. They released information, essentially accusing Trump of a crime without fully disclosing the other documents they used to justify this raid, which is, again, was unprecedented.
00:19:33.360And I think eventually what you're going to see is they manufactured a document dispute based on a purposeful and malicious misreading of the law to try to jail, obviously to raid his home as part of an effort to jail and prosecute.
00:19:52.900And it doesn't get any simpler than that. And my concern about this, Steve, is that, you know, we talk about Ukraine and China and such.
00:20:01.040You know, you've got to wonder what the leaders in foreign capitals are thinking when they look at what's going on in this country.
00:20:06.240It's extremely destabilizing to America standing in the world because they see a president raid the home of another president.
00:20:14.840And they recognize that because, you know, many of those countries, that's far for the course.
00:20:19.360It wasn't supposed to be the American way, though, and they must be worried.
00:20:24.080Our enemies may be looking at us thinking, what are they up to there?
00:20:28.140and our friends must be thinking oh is america falling tom how do people follow you on social
00:20:35.560media and how do they get to judicial watch to learn more about it and if they're so interested
00:20:39.540donate yeah they can go to judicial watch.org uh we're all over um social media despite being
00:20:46.920banned here and again uh but we're on twitter judicial watch tom fitton we're at we're on
00:20:52.540getter we're on true social uh facebook and youtube and rumble everywhere we're everywhere
00:20:58.580steve we got to be everywhere uh because uh we can't see any ground to the media and to the big
00:21:04.120tech and to the left because uh if that were the case they'd have us all in the you know the
00:21:10.500corners of the internet that no one could ever see tom uh honored great work uh looking forward
00:21:16.740to talk to you tomorrow and good luck tomorrow thank you tom fitner judicial watch and like i
00:21:23.380said if it had not been for tom fitnan these guys move with alacrity they are action action action
00:21:28.900if they had not moved on this we wouldn't be anywhere and the mainstream media has been
00:21:32.820drifting and they're saying oh yeah we're fighting from first man it's all crap
00:21:35.720they judicial watch shame them and that's why they're at this okay there's so much to go through
00:21:43.040breaking news all over but one is on the economy dave walsh i just want to
00:21:48.840there's all kind of debates now about what the second quarter was is a less recession
00:21:54.180you know we did a big economic analysis today in the six o'clock hour we're going to go through
00:21:59.260with dave bratt once again and and drill down on this productivity issue everything though gets
00:22:05.140back to energy i just want you to put it in perspective right now where do you think we are
00:22:09.680where you get just past this $800 billion bill,
00:22:13.040everybody's yammering about where the economy is.
00:22:31.840It's going to be our energy assets and our resources.
00:22:34.520Where do you think we stand today in the United States, sir?
00:22:36.940well we have uh gasoline at the pump uh demand destruction we're down about nine percent
00:22:44.780year on year in gasoline demand which has you know aided price reductions mainly that's been
00:22:50.040the main driver of price reductions and but we so that the uh gdp growth being negative i'm going
00:22:58.900to suggest is um understated the negative uh the decline the the recession is is here in the view
00:23:06.320of most of us. But if you want to, we left off yesterday, probably five quick things could be
00:23:13.140done by the administration to, okay, we've got massive exportation of natural gas. That's good
00:23:18.440for the balance of trade. In the longer run, that is part of energy dominance. But what can be done
00:23:22.600that we can do both? Serve our domestic clients, our domestic folks, in the face of these 160.98
00:23:28.920billion of late payments now to utilities, broadcast yesterday by Bloomberg. 18% higher
00:23:36.540bills, 20% higher in Japan, 36% higher in the Eurozone, 52% higher in the UK for electricity.
00:23:43.380What can we do here? Suspend the EPA blocks on fracking, New York blocks on fracking.
00:23:51.800The issues raised in the Permian Basin on NOx emissions by the EPA, suspend those.
00:23:55.960free up, free up fracking, free up natural gas production, free up oil production in the Gulf
00:24:01.380offshore. Open up these domestic pipelines. We talked yesterday about the Mountain Valley
00:24:06.500Pipeline, the Atlantic Coast Pipeline, Michigan Pipeline number five. And I'm going to concede
00:24:12.620possibly on exportation. The DOE has to approve the exportation levels from the major LNG terminals.
00:24:20.220We could, during a crisis such as this, look at maybe a 7 to 3 ratio of mandating 70% domestic utilization for every 30% exported and have some balance with the supply of natural gas for a time, hopefully not forever.
00:24:37.980But then also, and this would be deadly to the left, shift subsidization now from non-reliable
00:24:45.900intermittent resources that aren't helping us, part-time solar and wind, over to natural
00:25:01.600Let's move forward with that and look at subsidization for the time being to restart
00:25:05.620that, along with subsidization to support natural gas elevation. If we're going to remain on the
00:25:11.040path of exporting 28 billion cubic feet per day, which we're headed to, and is Europe exportation,
00:25:18.740on which we're making a great deal of money, let's subsidize kicking that into higher gear.
00:25:24.220Finally, moving to motivate NATO members, the EU, to develop the North Sea again, get back to 10
00:25:31.440million barrels a day production and associated natural gas out of the north sea develop the
00:25:36.320natural gas fields and frack in lower saxony in germany and poland move forward with that
00:25:41.300we need to motivate them to think about harvesting their energy resources their thing but but i want
00:25:47.080to we don't have time to play it but macron just came out yesterday and said the the we're at the
00:25:52.860end of the era of abundance and we're at the beginning of the era of scarcity and people
00:25:58.860are going to have to realize they're going to have to make sacrifice, not just to defend democracy
00:26:02.300in Ukraine, but also just in the way they live. That mentality, we're at the end of the era of
00:26:08.100abundance. Is that a law of physical property dealing with our energy? Is that because of
00:26:12.720human action, sir? It's because of human action. It's because of the increased and increased
00:26:17.620dependence, particularly in Western Europe, the average country there, 19 to 28 percent dependent
00:26:23.560on renewables that are part-time intermittent and basically don't work and are non-reliable.
00:26:28.860You've got this energy cost and energy shortage issue, along with the Greta, if you will, push that has caused North Sea oil production to diminish by 65%.
00:35:29.980It's our pension funds. It's our 401k plans and so on. When we add that into the mix, we decided that we would do a separate series at one o'clock on Tuesdays, one o'clock on Thursdays, one o'clock on Tuesdays, Eastern Time, to look at who these guys are.
00:35:47.880Who are the people that are enabling this mortal enemy, as you said, the enemy is foreign, the enemy is domestic.
00:35:56.420We did a terrific program earlier this week in which we talked with a number of the folks who are very much rock stars in the War Room pantheon, Brian Kennedy, Trevor Loudon, Kevin Freeman, Jerry Boykin, and Brad Thayer, who's going to be with us again shortly.
00:36:21.180this was about a kind of report card on what not just individuals or corporate leaders or
00:36:30.480others, the United States government is doing to enable the Chinese Communist Party's war against
00:36:37.600us. It was looking at what Team Biden is doing to enable our mortal enemy to pose an ever greater0.58
00:36:44.500threat. It was stupendous, chilling, but stupendous and really required viewing.
00:36:49.960And that can be obtained for free at presentdangerchina.org today. We don't have the video up just yet, but we will shortly. We did another one about this wolf warrior diplomacy, as it's called, as an example of the kinds of techniques that the Chinese are using to attack us.
00:37:09.600In this case, to attack us rhetorically. But the trouble is, as an extraordinary group of people, including Matt Pottinger, who was a deputy national security advisor, two former undersecretaries, one of state, one of defense, Bob Joseph and Doug Fite, Robert Charles, an assistant secretary of state, and our own Gordon, excuse me, Grant Newsom, Colonel Grant Newsom,
00:37:36.820talked about the fact that we are not pushing back when they use belligerent rhetoric when they
00:37:45.400demean our country when they attack our people um you know for being racist and everything else
00:37:52.320the ambassador to the united states just gets the ambassador the united the chinese ambassador
00:37:56.460united states just took 90 minutes at a press conference in the nation's capital of the united
00:38:01.340States of America, not Beijing, to essentially lecture the American government like it's a
00:38:06.820tributary state, Frank Gaffney. That was the most recent example of this phenomenon of wolf warrior0.74
00:38:14.480diplomacy. And you've talked about it here on the program, Stephen, it inspired that particular
00:38:19.060webinar. And what the consensus of these very experienced national security practitioners were,
00:38:26.360If you don't push back when a bully is punching you in the nose, rhetorically at the moment, in this case, you're going to get a lot more punches in the nose.
00:38:37.600And so what we really, I think, laid out here is not only that there's a grievous shortfall in protecting our vital interests, but it is going to translate into more belligerent behavior as well.