Episode 2109： The Laptop From Hell Was Known To The FBI And They Used FAcebook To Suppress And Cover Up; Malone Banned From Twitter; The Attack On Kabul Airport 1 Year Later
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On October 14, 2020, the New York Post published a story about a laptop belonging to disgraced former mayor Rudy Giuliani. It was a story that went viral on social media, but was quickly censored by the FBI and the media, including the media itself. On the heels of this story, a new report emerged about a similar laptop being stolen from the home of former Vice President Joe Biden.
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handle things when they're a big news item that's controversial. Like there was a lot of attention
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on Twitter during the election because of the Hunter Biden laptop story, the New York Post.
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So we took a different path than Twitter. I mean, basically the background here is the FBI,
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I think basically came to us, some folks on our team and was like, hey, just so you know,
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like you should be on high alert. We thought that there was a lot of Russian propaganda in the
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2016 election. We have it on notice that basically there's about to be some kind of dump that's
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similar to that. So just be vigilant. So our protocol is different from Twitter's. What
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Twitter did is they said, you can't share this at all. We didn't do that. What we do is we have,
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if something is reported to us as potentially misinformation, important misinformation,
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we also have this third party fact checking program because we don't want to be deciding
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what's true and false. And for the, I think it was five or seven days when it was basically being
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determined whether it was false, the distribution on Facebook was decreased, but people were still
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allowed to share it. So you could still share it. You could still consume it.
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So when you say the distribution has decreased, how does that work?
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It basically, the ranking in newsfeed was a little bit less. So fewer people saw it than would
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I don't know off the top of my head, but it's meaningful. But I mean, but basically,
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a lot of people were still able to share it. We got a lot of complaints that that was the case.
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Obviously, this is a hyper political issue. So depending on what side of the political spectrum,
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you either think we didn't censor it enough or censored it way too much. But we weren't
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sort of as black and white about it as Twitter. We just kind of thought, hey, look, if the FBI,
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which I still view as a legitimate institution in this country, it's a very professional law
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enforcement. They come to us and tell us that we need to be on guard about something,
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Did they specifically say you need to be on guard about that story?
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No, I don't remember if it was that specifically, but it basically fit the pattern.
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Ah, the FBI, the FBI, the FBI. Let's bring in Miranda Devine forthwith without any further ado.
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Hey, Miranda, look, you have written the definitive book on this issue. It's called The Laptop from
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Hell, and I urge everybody to buy that book. The question, though, I want to know, first of all,
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is how early did you get involved in this story? Was it before the election took place? Can you give
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us an idea? I know that the New York Post lost its Twitter account, I think, over this. And what was
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your experience? Can you just give us a chronology of your involvement and your take on what you think
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You mean involvement with Rudy Giuliani initially in getting the laptop, or are you just talking about
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the moment that we published on October 14, 2020? The moment that you published in the post, and then
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what happened in kind of the social media? And does Zuckerberg's interview with Rogan give you a
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different perspective on what actually happened? No, Zuckerberg's lying. The morning that we published,
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we kept the story until we normally publish the night before, you know, 10pm or so. We kept this
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story until I think we published 5am. And at 11.10am, Andy Stone, who was Facebook's communication
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manager, came out with a tweet on Twitter saying that we have decided to suppress, let me get the exact
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wording. He said, while I will intentionally not link to the New York Post, I want to be clear that
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this story is eligible to be fact-checked by Facebook's third-party fact-checking partners.
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In the meantime, we are reducing its distribution on our platform. Effectively, they censored it. Now,
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Zuckerberg's saying to Joe Rogan, oh, you know...
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Okay, so this was like the critical time in the election. This was a pivotal time. We now know
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that if people had been informed fully about the laptop from hell, Trump would be in office. Okay,
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so continue. Go ahead. So you think Zuckerberg lied? How did he lie? Is he saying that... Are you saying
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that Facebook did it on its own or that... And the FBI had nothing to do?
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Facebook was the first. Twitter followed Facebook. It was Facebook. And, you know,
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Zuckerberg's saying, oh, well, we didn't... We weren't quite as harsh as Twitter because Twitter
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locked our account for two weeks and only reopened the New York Post account a few days before the
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election. But Facebook was suppressing the story just as badly. I've had so many communications in
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the last 24 hours from people who said they couldn't even share it with themselves to read on
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another device. So, you know, there's no distinction between the two. And Facebook was number one. And
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Andy Stone, the Facebook communication manager, who sounded the alarm, who set everybody in train
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to censor this story. He is a former... He worked for a Democratic super PAC. He worked for Barbara
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Boxer. He worked for the John Kerry for President campaign. He's a Democratic operative, as there are so
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many of them in Facebook. And so he was... He was doing... He was sending a signal by going onto Twitter
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to everybody, to Twitter, to the New York Times, to the Washington Post, do not touch this story.
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This story is dirty. And then the other intriguing part of Zuckerberg's very oily conversation with Joe
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Rogan was when he's asked, was the FBI warning that you received before the election about Russian
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disinformation? Was it specifically to do with this story, like before our story came out? And he said,
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oh, I can't remember. Now, this is not something you would forget. So that's just a dead giveaway that
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he's not telling the truth. And that is very interesting, because what his conversation with
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Rogan tells us is, again, the FBI, it's another point of light for the FBI, putting their thumb on the
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scale. And they did it from... There's an anti-Trump cabal within the FBI in the Washington field office,
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which has been working against Donald Trump since before he was elected in 2016, continued on through
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the Russia collusion hoax and the Mueller investigation, trying to leave some sort of a cloud over the
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president, crippled his presidency. And then you can follow that trail right up into the 2020 election
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when, in August of 2020, when Ron Johnson and Chuck Grasley were doing really manful work on the Biden
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corruption influence peddling scheme that was being ignored and introduced. They were ambushed with...
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Ron Johnson was ambushed with this FBI so-called defensive briefing to warn them about Russian
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disinformation. And Ron Johnson, a few minutes into this conversation, could smell a rash. He said to
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the agents who were there, this is absolute BS. This is completely irrelevant to our investigation or any of
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the witnesses we're subpoenaing. So if I see this in the media, I will know what the game is.
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And this FBI defensive debriefing came straight hot on the heels of Nancy Pelosi, Adam Schiff, Chuck Schumer,
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kicking up a stink about the Johnson-Grasley investigation because they knew that they were
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getting very close to the heart of that corruption that the Bidens had been doing around the world
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during Joe Biden's vice presidency and beyond. And so the FBI then gave the debriefing. And sure
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enough, the next minute, you've got the New York Times, Washington Post running leaks about how Johnson
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and Grasley are peddling Russian disinformation and the FBI had to warn them about it. And then you
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fast forward from August to October of 2020. And that's when we now know, thanks to the FBI
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whistleblowers that have come forward to Chuck Grasley, that there were two FBI operatives. There
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was agent Timothy Teevold and there was analyst, FBI analyst Brian Orton, both in Washington. And
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they were oppressing the, according to the whistleblowers, any investigation into the Hunter Biden laptop,
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which the FBI had had in its possession since December 2019, almost a year. So that was the,
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the next time that they put their thumb on the scale. So, you know, pardon us for being
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sceptical when we're supposed to trust the FBI now that they've raided Mar-a-Lago, you know,
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unprecedented invasion of a former president's home. When they won't release the affidavit,
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I'm sure when we see it, it'll be completely redacted to insignificance. And they refuse to tell us
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what information they're looking for. So again, what do we see?
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Let's stay just a minute with this whole social media stuff. So, so is it, are you saying that
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Twitter and Facebook would have suppressed the laptop from hell anyway, or did it on their own
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volition? Or are you saying that the FBI went to them and was part of kind of the conspiracy? I mean,
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what's, what's the timeline on that? Do we, Zuckerberg says the FBI came to them before they
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did this suppression. Do you believe that? Is it relevant? I mean, what's, what's Zuckerberg's game
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and why did he wait to 2022? Why would, why would Zuckerberg lie about the FBI coming to him? Because
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that is a get out of jail free card for him, you see. And if he lied about it, the FBI would make it
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known. So, and we know that the FBI was going around briefing people before the election of,
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you know, defensive briefings about Russian disinformation. I just told you about with
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Bradley and Johnson. So I, I, um, I think what, um, happened is that, uh, John Paul Mac Isaac,
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just go wind back to December, 2019. He's had the laptop now for, since April. Um, and he's disturbed
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about the content he's seen on it. Um, it is legal, uh, possession because Hunter hasn't picked it up
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and, um, he's worried about it. So he does the right thing. He contacts the FBI and he tells them
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that there's information on there that is disturbing and potentially criminal in nature. And he thinks
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also that it could be exculpatory for Donald Trump in what was going on right at that minute was, um,
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the impeachment over Ukraine. And John Paul Mac Isaac knew that there was a lot of material
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about Biden corruption with regard to Ukraine. And so, um, so the FBI has this information.
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John Paul Mac Isaac says that when the, one of the agents was leaving his shop with the laptop and the
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hard drive, he turned around and made a comment that John Paul Mac Isaac thought was sinister,
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thought might've been a threat. And, um, basically saying, you know, people that keep their mouths
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shut, don't get into trouble. And then we know that the laptop just sat there and nothing was
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happening with it. Um, but, uh, we also know that the FBI was monitoring, they had, um, a secret
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warrant into Rudy Giuliani's cloud. And so whether or not they, uh, caught on to the fact that John
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Paul Mac Isaac had contacted Rudy Giuliani and given this very eloquent email about the information
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he had that Bob Costello Giuliani's lawyer intercepted, uh, we don't know. But at some time
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after that, the FBI went into overdrive with their Russia disinformation warnings. Now, what really we
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want to know is were they warning that it was going to be something to do with Joe Biden, Hunter Biden,
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uh, a laptop, a big dump. I mean, that's what Zuckerberg says, a big dump. And he tries to
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backtrack off to that. That's. Yeah. He was intentionally, he was intentionally obtuse
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about what exactly he was being asked to suppress. I noted that Miranda, uh, can you hang on for that
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Peter K. Navarro in for Stephen K. Bannon. We've been talking with Miranda Devine of the New York
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Post. And here's the chilling picture that Miranda Devine has presented to us. And she's got street
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credit on this because she wrote the definitive book on the laptop from hell. In fact, it's called
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The Laptop from Hell. Get It Today on Amazon. What she described in the last segment should chill
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the hearts and souls of every American. She described an FBI which seemingly on a sustained
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basis has coordinated its attempts to take out Donald Trump. That's as gently as I can put it
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with both the mainstream media, the New York Times, the Washington Post, on the one hand, and then
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the social media, Zuckerberg at Facebook, the Twitter folks, in ways designed to spread misinformation,
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suppress information, and thereby swing the election in favor of Joe Biden, which, I mean,
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if you think about the definition of insurrection, those guys are armed at the FBI. And what they did was
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they engineered an insurrection. They got rid of Donald Trump. So I got a couple of questions
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for you, Miranda. Is it your view, as I've said it, that the FBI works closely with the media and social
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media on its disinformation campaigns? And secondly, and more importantly, is this a rogue operation
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within the FBI by an identifiable small group of agents? Or is this just endemic to the culture
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Look, I would hope that it's the former, but it looks like it's throughout the FBI. I mean,
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you just look at the Gretchen Whitmer entrapment case in Michigan, and you see how the guy who was the
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lead agent on that disastrous case was then promoted to the Washington field office to take charge of the
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January 6th investigation, which is the largest investigation in FBI history. That's absurd.
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I mean, this was, you know, it was terrible what happened on January 6th. The violence was appalling.
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But it was a riot that went on for a few hours. And America had just lived through months of rioting
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in the summer of 2020, leading up to the 2020 election as a deliberate political ploy to sow chaos
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and make Donald Trump look bad. So I have grave fears. And I mean, people I know, ex-FBI agents
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confirm that there is a problem throughout the FBI. Obviously, there are lots of very good FBI agents
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who are still there and keeping their heads down. But, you know, there's talk that a lot of the conservative
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agents were basically fired or shuffled out or demoted. And a whole young crew of radicals was hired.
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And maybe that's the New York Post, you mentioned in the earlier segment, names, you actually named names. Has the New York Post done anything to compile kind of a matrix of FBI agents with their names who participated, for example, in the raid in Mar-a-Lago, or putting me in leg irons or going to Facebook and Twitter, or leading the raid on Roger Stone,
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or being part of the Russia hoax? I mean, it seems to me that if we were able to look at that matrix and see who the agents are, it's either a small, powerful group, or it's much larger. So I would ask you, has there been any effort at journalism to do that, Miranda?
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Yeah, not graphically. We've written plenty of stories, but you're right. It really needs to be a kind of a heat map.
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And the matrix of connections between these people. And it is possible to do that. I mean, Chuck Grasley and Ron Johnson and James Comer have been putting out letters and dribs and drabs. You're getting a few names here, a few names there.
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We had names of a couple of the FBI agents who were involved in the Mar-a-Lago raid came out in some of the documents that were released.
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And so, you know, it should be possible. I might do it. Just piece together who's who. I have a list of who's who so far.
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I haven't got a lot of names yet. But it's certainly there is. There seems to be a cabal, a group, and they seem to be centered in the Washington field office.
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And they've become politicized. At the very least, you say they are politicized.
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Let's do journalism. Let's do a little journalism on the fly here, too, because what I've learned is that there's at least one or more people who were at the FBI who have migrated over to the Department of Justice
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and are now working on investigations related to Mar-a-Lago or me or whatever as part of, you know, it's kind of like, how does that happen?
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Like, like, how can that be that that the FBI now now has people over at the DOJ?
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Have you have you tracked any of that at all? Do you know? Have you seen any of that?
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No, I haven't. But I do know that, you know, Obama people, Lisa Monaco and I can't remember the name of her deputy.
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They were involved in in the, you know, Russia collusion era at the tail end of the Obama administration.
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And so Lisa Monaco was at the FBI and now she's at DOJ, right?
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Yeah. And and her deputy, again, same thing. And he had to resign from the DOJ over the initial warrant to Carter Page.
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I mean, sorry, when I say he had to resign, he just voluntarily resigned himself as as that was becoming a bit of a hot potato.
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And now he's back as Lisa Monaco's deputy, Monaco's deputy. I can't remember his name.
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But where do you place Chris Ray in all of this? Chris Ray is like the head of the thing.
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Is he like the useful idiot for this cabal?
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I think he's just he's just weak. You know, he's a pretty boy.
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He doesn't. He hasn't. I think he really has no idea what to lie, die to what's going on below him.
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And look, the FBI is a very difficult monster to tame because, you know, it has dozens of field officers all over the country.
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And Chris Ray boasts about how he he takes the FBI's private jet, which he uses to go on holiday in.
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And he flies all around the country and visits these field officers and has a discussion with them, you know, very open and everyone can tell him what they think.
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And then he gets back in his plane, goes back to Washington. He thinks that that's enough, but it's not.
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He's been told he knows. Just if he looked at the letters that Chuck Bradley and Ron Johnson have sent him, they've given him fair warning about the rock within his agency.
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But doesn't Chris Ray have to sign off on all of these things?
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I mean, wouldn't he have had to sign off on Mar-a-Lago, put me in leg irons, Roger Stone, the raid on stone?
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I mean, and by the way, on the pretty boy thing, I love that.
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I describe Chris Ray as the only guy who has better hair than Steve Bannon.
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Yeah, but yeah, look, and the thing about Chris Ray is that he he comes before the Senate inquiries and he's glib.
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He he spends half the time defending the men and women of the FBI.
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You know, Americans are not conservatives are not anti law enforcement as Christopher Ray and Merrick Garland and the Democratic Party are trying to make out.
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They're pro law enforcement and nothing's changed, but they're not pro crooked law enforcement.
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And when you have an element, at least an element, maybe the whole culture of the FBI showing itself to be rotten and politicized, then, of course, you have to root that out.
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Rooting that out is being for law and order, not against it.
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I mean, that's a that's a big accusation that that that that the FBI now, as it's presently constituted, is acting.
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They've weaponized their investigatory powers in a partisan way.
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This latest thing after Mar-a-Lago, this latest thing would seem to be the nail in that coffin.
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Rasmussen poll a couple of weeks ago found that a majority of Americans, maybe not a majority, but about 50 percent of Americans felt that the FBI was acting as Joe Biden's, quote, personal Gestapo, which was a quote from Roger Stone.
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So the FBI's reputation has plummeted, and it's plummeted not because, you know, people at the New York Post or at War Room have been criticizing the FBI.
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You know, the Gretchen Whitmer trial, yes, go is a perfect example of that.
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And and and there are so many unanswered questions.
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Revolver News has done a great job of looking into the pipe bomb mystery, those pipe bombs on January 6th planted at the DNC and the RNC headquarters.
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And yet the FBI has all that forensic firepower.
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Surely they could have found something, a fingerprint, a fingerprint in the in the in whatever gunpowder is in there.
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Miranda, sadly, we're going to have to end our time together, but I want to give you the last 20 seconds or so.
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And Miranda, what's your best way to follow Miranda Devine?
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And and also at the risk of log rolling, look out for Peter's book coming up, which will be great.
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And also just like to say that of all the people in America, I think Zuckerberg is the most responsible for Joe Biden being in office.
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We're going to shift gears now and talk with the great Dr. Robert Malone about an issue which I've been fighting side by side with him.
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Dating back, I think our first article in the Great Washington Times was in July of 2021, where we laid out essentially exactly what has happened with respect to the vaccine,
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whereby we said at the time it should be used parsimoniously only with people who had the highest risk, senior citizens, people with comorbidities.
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Otherwise, you would run the risk of creating vaccine-resistant mutants and all hell could break loose going forward there.
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And in a series of three articles in the Washington Times, and salute Kelly Sadler there as the editor who helped,
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we identified a number of severe side effects, including myocarditis for young men.
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And now we're in a situation where the government, Fauci, Biden et al., continues to double down, triple down, quadruple down on the need for boosters.
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At the same time, data is coming in from all over the world that says that we ought to walk away from that vaccine immediately.
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What do you want to share with the posse today about this sad situation?
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Peter, as usual, you summarized it succinctly and accurately.
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All I can do is fill in some of the granularity.
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The data from all over the world is demonstrating that those that are highly inoculated,
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I'm using that word rather than vaccinated for obvious reasons, are the ones that are being most frequently hospitalized and dying.
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Now, there are those that take issue with that, and they're picking around the edges saying,
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well, it may be because the elderly or the high risk or the more highly inoculated.
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it's now clear that the vaccines are not only not protecting against infection replication and spread,
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but they are also not effective in protecting against severe disease and death.
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The Pfizer and Moderna have both launched new products,
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which have two, at least two different spike proteins,
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which is the one that so many people have been inoculated with repeatedly.
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This has now been authorized under emergency use in the UK.
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So in this case, instead of Israel, the citizens of the UK are being the guinea pigs on this product.
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In our case, we've already purchased over $4 billion of worth of these products,
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The government hopes to do that before the election.
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And they assert that these are going to be more effective,
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but they will not perform any clinical trials prior to the deployment.
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So no clinical trials, new composition of matter,
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hoping that some data comes out of the UK to support the safety.
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But all over the world, the data are coming in that the highly inoculated
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And as an expert in this area, my assessment is the form of...
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Doc, stop right there, because that's really the crux of the matter here.
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It's not just that the vaccine's not working to prevent infections and symptoms.
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Why do you think people have a greater probability, in some cases, of dying if they're vaccinated?
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So the FDA has acknowledged from the outset the risk of antibody-dependent enhancement.
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What we have are the clear data of the clinical effects and a huge amount of data about original
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antigenic sin or immune imprinting, which the government has completely ignored.
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But now, recently, there's been one small article that was overlooked, published in the Washington
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Post, that acknowledged the problem of original antigenic sin, which is kind of a synonym to
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So this is the problem that we spoke about here on the War Room, and I also testified in the
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Texas Senate, you know, quite, it seems like, forever ago, at least two months, it seems
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But you'll recall, I said back then, that I would absolutely not advise anyone to take
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these products, and that they looked like the perfect storm for making this problem even
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So, Doc, again, for the posse out there, we're lay people here.
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This original antigenic sin, as I understand it, not well, but it's the idea that whatever
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type of vaccine you get, you run the risk of it kind of imprinting your immune system in
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such a way going forward that, number one, it can't be undone, and number two, it may
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make you more susceptible to variants of the virus, and therefore, that's dangerous.
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The easy way to think about it is that in all of us, and classically in the military, we're
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Hence, the Maginot line in the French with the German Blitzkrieg is just one great example
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Your original exposures to a vaccine or a pathogen will bias all of your subsequent immune
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And that bias that was created in people that were either infected with Wuhan 1, like I was,
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or have been repeatedly vaccinated in particular with anti-Wuhan 1 spike drives kind of a focus
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of your immune system towards that, and Wuhan 1 no longer circulates.
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And so it's been shown in multiple papers, most notably in a science paper that was a study
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of healthcare workers in the UK, that if you have infection, particularly with Wuhan 1, and
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then this subsequent boosting, boosting, boosting, it creates a situation where if you get hit
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with Omicron, you actually have far worse outcomes and worse immunologic response than
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So that's what's going on, and there may be other things that are going on.
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The autoimmune thing is where your body can overreact to something.
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So there's so many problems now with the effects of these vaccines that it's easy to get them
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The autoimmune problem is complicated and multifaceted.
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One of the aspects is that spike protein binds to many different cells and platelets, and it
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can act as a foreign antigen that will cause your body to see your normal antigens as if they're
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So this is a classic way that autoimmunity happens.
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And the consequence of this particular problem is observed in the patients that develop an
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That means that their body is attacking their platelets.
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Are we seeing that as a problem with the vaccines?
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Has been a problem with the vaccines and noted as one of the adverse events almost since the
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But again, another thing that's denied by the CDC, as has been the case with so many
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Who should get the vaccine, if anybody, and who should not at this point, based on what
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We'll call it the inoculator because we know...
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When you said it inoculates, not vaccines, we know it's not a true vaccine.
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But if you're the head of the CDC or NIH right now advising the president, what do you tell
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Where are we at now with a situation which is becoming increasingly an existential threat to
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I represent over 17,000 physicians and medical scientists.
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And we came out with a clear, unequivocal press conference statement a few months ago in which
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we said, unequivocally, the data are now sufficiently compelling that we believe that these vaccines
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are not indicated for any population and should be withdrawn.
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And the reason why we're talking about this today, frankly, is because we had this strange
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thing happen on Capitol Hill where this subcommittee on the coronavirus went after me and President
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They now want to blame President Trump for all the bad side effects of the virus up on
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Capitol Hill, even as the White House and people on Capitol Hill continue to push for the
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Do you see any Democrats wanting to declare moratorium?
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Any Republicans or are we essentially a fringe group still at this point, despite the fact
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And Dr. Navarro, as you know, just because things are true doesn't mean anything in the
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environment of the kabuki theater that goes on in environments where a single party controls
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The actions by that subcommittee, including their attacks on Scott Atlas, clearly demonstrate
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this ongoing effort right now to rewrite the narrative and to scrub any information on
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the Internet that is contradictory to the narrative or which would point to duplicity or guilt on
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the part of any members of the current administration.
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I hesitate to call it the Biden administration.
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I want to stop you now simply to give you, we've got like 20 seconds.
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I want everybody to know how to get to Doc Malone, particularly his sub stack.
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Follow our account at substack at rwmalonemd.com.
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Our getter account at rwmalonemd is always the first place I go to to post new information.
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The epidemic is a demon and we cannot let this demon hide.
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It's the one-year anniversary of the Kabul airport terrorist attack.
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But the sad news here even more is that more Americans may well die.
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And we want to bring in Sam Faddis right now to describe the dangers in the wake of the irresponsible way in which the Biden regime exited from Afghanistan.
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So, Sam, on this somber day, tell us what your concerns are.
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Well, look, we all know that there needs to be an accounting for the disaster that happened a year ago, right?
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There are a lot of people that need to be held to account.
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The immediate danger is this, the immediate problem.
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As much as we'd like it to, Afghanistan did not go away.
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We're talking, for the love of God, about releasing to them $7 billion in frozen funds.
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The Taliban and al-Qaeda are virtually indistinguishable, right?
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He was living in a guest house provided by Siraj Haqqani, one of the top Taliban leaders.
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They've got a platform from which to launch attacks.
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And we have virtually no capacity to inhibit what they're getting ready to do.
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So the bottom line is we're going to get hit and people are going to die.
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Are we talking about some of bin Laden type terrorist attacks?
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Look, the hallmark of al-Qaeda and groups that have followed its path was to declare war on
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In other words, explicitly the battle is not to be fought there.
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At the time we went into Afghanistan in 2001, Osama had multiple biological weapons programs
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underway, was pursuing chemical weapons, and was in contact with senior, former senior nuclear
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scientists from the Pakistani nuclear program, and discussing the construction of an atomic
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9-11 was never intended to be the end of anything.
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His ambitions at that time were to follow on with attacks that would make 9-11 look like
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That remains their ambition, as thick and twisted as that is.
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The only reason it hadn't happened is because for 20 years we've stopped them.
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Can you take us back to that day a year ago and explain to the war room what exactly happened,
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how many people died, and how it could have been prevented?
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Well, the immediate cause is a suicide bomber, right, who detonates in a crowd, and we end
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up losing 13 U.S. servicemen, I believe 12 Marines and one U.S. Army person, if I remember
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But the broader context in which this happens is you have placed everyone by that point in
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That airport sits in the bottom of a valley surrounded by high ground.
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We had pulled out our forces, given up Bagram, and allowed everybody to come in in mass numbers,
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crowded around, and virtually onto the airfield, well, in some cases, onto the airfield.
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So the miracle out of that is not that 13 people died, as horrifying as that is.
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The miracle is that we didn't end up losing one heck of a lot more people.
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The 18th Airborne Corps, when they were tasked to handle the evacuation, explicitly drew up
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a plan saying, we need to hold on to Bagram Air Base because we have to have a base of
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They even put together a plan after we gave up Bagram to jump back in and retake it to handle
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The Biden administration intervened and said, no, here's this completely militarily untenable
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Do you know how many acres the footprint of Bagram is?
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I'm thinking, I mean, there were so many American weapons that U.S. taxpayers paid for
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It would have been impossible to store a lot of that material on the Bagram Air Force base
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I don't know off the top of my head what the exact footprint is, but it's a very large installation.
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Obviously, when they were in Afghanistan, dramatically expanded by us.
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If you wanted to, you could make it impregnable.
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Also, by the way, you can destroy things that we don't take out.
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I mean, if we can't put everything on a plane and we can't safeguard it, you can at least
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blow it up and render it unusable to the enemy.
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And by the way, since we have complete control of the air, every day that passed after we left
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Afghanistan, we made an affirmative decision not to go in and destroy armored vehicles,
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weapons, you know, rifles, machine guns, explosives.
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Was this just fecklessness or did they have a legitimate rationale, stupid though it might
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You know, I have to tell you that what I think I see in the Biden administration is the most
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toxic mix of arrogance and incompetence I have ever seen in my life.
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So they just have no idea what they're doing, but they are ideologues and they are convinced
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And God knows how many people will pay the price for the way they handled Afghanistan.
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