Bannon's War Room - Episode 2109： The Laptop From Hell Was Known To The FBI And They Used FAcebook To Suppress And Cover Up; Malone Banned From Twitter; The Attack On Kabul Airport 1 Year Later

00:00:00.000 handle things when they're a big news item that's controversial. Like there was a lot of attention

00:00:07.440 on Twitter during the election because of the Hunter Biden laptop story, the New York Post.

00:00:12.980 Yeah, we have that too.

00:00:14.100 Yeah. So you guys censored that as well?

00:00:16.220 So we took a different path than Twitter. I mean, basically the background here is the FBI,

00:00:22.460 I think basically came to us, some folks on our team and was like, hey, just so you know,

00:00:27.940 like you should be on high alert. We thought that there was a lot of Russian propaganda in the

00:00:33.260 2016 election. We have it on notice that basically there's about to be some kind of dump that's

00:00:43.000 similar to that. So just be vigilant. So our protocol is different from Twitter's. What

00:00:47.780 Twitter did is they said, you can't share this at all. We didn't do that. What we do is we have,

00:00:53.980 if something is reported to us as potentially misinformation, important misinformation,

00:01:00.880 we also have this third party fact checking program because we don't want to be deciding

00:01:04.140 what's true and false. And for the, I think it was five or seven days when it was basically being

00:01:11.500 determined whether it was false, the distribution on Facebook was decreased, but people were still

00:01:20.700 allowed to share it. So you could still share it. You could still consume it.

00:01:24.100 So when you say the distribution has decreased, how does that work?

00:01:28.040 It basically, the ranking in newsfeed was a little bit less. So fewer people saw it than would

00:01:32.820 have otherwise. So it definitely...

00:01:35.140 By what percentage?

00:01:36.500 I don't know off the top of my head, but it's meaningful. But I mean, but basically,

00:01:40.600 a lot of people were still able to share it. We got a lot of complaints that that was the case.

00:01:48.680 Obviously, this is a hyper political issue. So depending on what side of the political spectrum,

00:01:53.060 you either think we didn't censor it enough or censored it way too much. But we weren't

00:01:57.120 sort of as black and white about it as Twitter. We just kind of thought, hey, look, if the FBI,

00:02:01.900 which I still view as a legitimate institution in this country, it's a very professional law

00:02:07.100 enforcement. They come to us and tell us that we need to be on guard about something,

00:02:11.080 then I want to take that seriously.

00:02:12.520 Did they specifically say you need to be on guard about that story?

00:02:16.580 No, I don't remember if it was that specifically, but it basically fit the pattern.

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00:02:53.940 Ah, the FBI, the FBI, the FBI. Let's bring in Miranda Devine forthwith without any further ado. 1.00

00:03:03.260 Hey, Miranda, look, you have written the definitive book on this issue. It's called The Laptop from

00:03:11.700 Hell, and I urge everybody to buy that book. The question, though, I want to know, first of all,

00:03:18.560 is how early did you get involved in this story? Was it before the election took place? Can you give

00:03:27.720 us an idea? I know that the New York Post lost its Twitter account, I think, over this. And what was

00:03:36.420 your experience? Can you just give us a chronology of your involvement and your take on what you think

00:03:42.840 was going on with the social media?

00:03:46.420 You mean involvement with Rudy Giuliani initially in getting the laptop, or are you just talking about

00:03:52.320 the moment that we published on October 14, 2020? The moment that you published in the post, and then

00:04:01.000 what happened in kind of the social media? And does Zuckerberg's interview with Rogan give you a

00:04:07.760 different perspective on what actually happened? No, Zuckerberg's lying. The morning that we published,

00:04:16.200 we kept the story until we normally publish the night before, you know, 10pm or so. We kept this

00:04:23.600 story until I think we published 5am. And at 11.10am, Andy Stone, who was Facebook's communication

00:04:32.520 manager, came out with a tweet on Twitter saying that we have decided to suppress, let me get the exact

00:04:43.120 wording. He said, while I will intentionally not link to the New York Post, I want to be clear that

00:04:49.480 this story is eligible to be fact-checked by Facebook's third-party fact-checking partners.

00:04:54.920 In the meantime, we are reducing its distribution on our platform. Effectively, they censored it. Now,

00:05:01.940 Zuckerberg's saying to Joe Rogan, oh, you know...

00:05:04.520 Do you remember what day that was?

00:05:06.100 Yeah, that was the 14th of October, 2020.

00:05:11.360 Okay, so this was like the critical time in the election. This was a pivotal time. We now know

00:05:18.800 that if people had been informed fully about the laptop from hell, Trump would be in office. Okay,

00:05:27.280 so continue. Go ahead. So you think Zuckerberg lied? How did he lie? Is he saying that... Are you saying

00:05:33.520 that Facebook did it on its own or that... And the FBI had nothing to do?

00:05:39.860 Facebook was the first. Twitter followed Facebook. It was Facebook. And, you know,

00:05:46.620 Zuckerberg's saying, oh, well, we didn't... We weren't quite as harsh as Twitter because Twitter

00:05:52.200 locked our account for two weeks and only reopened the New York Post account a few days before the

00:05:57.660 election. But Facebook was suppressing the story just as badly. I've had so many communications in

00:06:06.760 the last 24 hours from people who said they couldn't even share it with themselves to read on

00:06:11.660 another device. So, you know, there's no distinction between the two. And Facebook was number one. And

00:06:20.580 Andy Stone, the Facebook communication manager, who sounded the alarm, who set everybody in train

00:06:27.960 to censor this story. He is a former... He worked for a Democratic super PAC. He worked for Barbara

00:06:35.000 Boxer. He worked for the John Kerry for President campaign. He's a Democratic operative, as there are so

00:06:42.360 many of them in Facebook. And so he was... He was doing... He was sending a signal by going onto Twitter

00:06:49.980 to everybody, to Twitter, to the New York Times, to the Washington Post, do not touch this story.

00:06:56.120 This story is dirty. And then the other intriguing part of Zuckerberg's very oily conversation with Joe

00:07:04.940 Rogan was when he's asked, was the FBI warning that you received before the election about Russian

00:07:12.060 disinformation? Was it specifically to do with this story, like before our story came out? And he said,

00:07:19.680 oh, I can't remember. Now, this is not something you would forget. So that's just a dead giveaway that

00:07:29.000 he's not telling the truth. And that is very interesting, because what his conversation with

00:07:35.180 Rogan tells us is, again, the FBI, it's another point of light for the FBI, putting their thumb on the

00:07:41.840 scale. And they did it from... There's an anti-Trump cabal within the FBI in the Washington field office,

00:07:50.920 which has been working against Donald Trump since before he was elected in 2016, continued on through

00:07:59.640 the Russia collusion hoax and the Mueller investigation, trying to leave some sort of a cloud over the

00:08:06.380 president, crippled his presidency. And then you can follow that trail right up into the 2020 election

00:08:13.360 when, in August of 2020, when Ron Johnson and Chuck Grasley were doing really manful work on the Biden

00:08:21.100 corruption influence peddling scheme that was being ignored and introduced. They were ambushed with...

00:08:29.460 Ron Johnson was ambushed with this FBI so-called defensive briefing to warn them about Russian

00:08:36.320 disinformation. And Ron Johnson, a few minutes into this conversation, could smell a rash. He said to

00:08:42.040 the agents who were there, this is absolute BS. This is completely irrelevant to our investigation or any of

00:08:49.100 the witnesses we're subpoenaing. So if I see this in the media, I will know what the game is.

00:08:55.480 And this FBI defensive debriefing came straight hot on the heels of Nancy Pelosi, Adam Schiff, Chuck Schumer,

00:09:05.120 kicking up a stink about the Johnson-Grasley investigation because they knew that they were

00:09:10.280 getting very close to the heart of that corruption that the Bidens had been doing around the world

00:09:16.840 during Joe Biden's vice presidency and beyond. And so the FBI then gave the debriefing. And sure

00:09:26.580 enough, the next minute, you've got the New York Times, Washington Post running leaks about how Johnson

00:09:33.280 and Grasley are peddling Russian disinformation and the FBI had to warn them about it. And then you

00:09:38.460 fast forward from August to October of 2020. And that's when we now know, thanks to the FBI

00:09:44.600 whistleblowers that have come forward to Chuck Grasley, that there were two FBI operatives. There

00:09:50.120 was agent Timothy Teevold and there was analyst, FBI analyst Brian Orton, both in Washington. And

00:09:58.220 they were oppressing the, according to the whistleblowers, any investigation into the Hunter Biden laptop,

00:10:06.340 which the FBI had had in its possession since December 2019, almost a year. So that was the,

00:10:14.600 the next time that they put their thumb on the scale. So, you know, pardon us for being

00:10:19.900 sceptical when we're supposed to trust the FBI now that they've raided Mar-a-Lago, you know,

00:10:26.860 unprecedented invasion of a former president's home. When they won't release the affidavit,

00:10:34.640 I'm sure when we see it, it'll be completely redacted to insignificance. And they refuse to tell us

00:10:42.700 what information they're looking for. So again, what do we see?

00:10:48.000 Let's stay just a minute with this whole social media stuff. So, so is it, are you saying that

00:10:58.960 Twitter and Facebook would have suppressed the laptop from hell anyway, or did it on their own

00:11:05.920 volition? Or are you saying that the FBI went to them and was part of kind of the conspiracy? I mean,

00:11:15.480 what's, what's the timeline on that? Do we, Zuckerberg says the FBI came to them before they

00:11:21.600 did this suppression. Do you believe that? Is it relevant? I mean, what's, what's Zuckerberg's game

00:11:28.100 and why did he wait to 2022? Why would, why would Zuckerberg lie about the FBI coming to him? Because

00:11:36.440 that is a get out of jail free card for him, you see. And if he lied about it, the FBI would make it

00:11:43.360 known. So, and we know that the FBI was going around briefing people before the election of,

00:11:49.340 you know, defensive briefings about Russian disinformation. I just told you about with

00:11:53.540 Bradley and Johnson. So I, I, um, I think what, um, happened is that, uh, John Paul Mac Isaac,

00:12:02.880 just go wind back to December, 2019. He's had the laptop now for, since April. Um, and he's disturbed

00:12:11.880 about the content he's seen on it. Um, it is legal, uh, possession because Hunter hasn't picked it up

00:12:18.540 and, um, he's worried about it. So he does the right thing. He contacts the FBI and he tells them

00:12:25.420 that there's information on there that is disturbing and potentially criminal in nature. And he thinks

00:12:31.220 also that it could be exculpatory for Donald Trump in what was going on right at that minute was, um,

00:12:38.040 the impeachment over Ukraine. And John Paul Mac Isaac knew that there was a lot of material

00:12:44.420 about Biden corruption with regard to Ukraine. And so, um, so the FBI has this information.

00:12:53.420 John Paul Mac Isaac says that when the, one of the agents was leaving his shop with the laptop and the

00:12:59.880 hard drive, he turned around and made a comment that John Paul Mac Isaac thought was sinister,

00:13:05.620 thought might've been a threat. And, um, basically saying, you know, people that keep their mouths

00:13:11.220 shut, don't get into trouble. And then we know that the laptop just sat there and nothing was

00:13:16.280 happening with it. Um, but, uh, we also know that the FBI was monitoring, they had, um, a secret

00:13:23.980 warrant into Rudy Giuliani's cloud. And so whether or not they, uh, caught on to the fact that John

00:13:33.280 Paul Mac Isaac had contacted Rudy Giuliani and given this very eloquent email about the information

00:13:39.860 he had that Bob Costello Giuliani's lawyer intercepted, uh, we don't know. But at some time

00:13:46.700 after that, the FBI went into overdrive with their Russia disinformation warnings. Now, what really we

00:13:54.100 want to know is were they warning that it was going to be something to do with Joe Biden, Hunter Biden,

00:13:59.920 uh, a laptop, a big dump. I mean, that's what Zuckerberg says, a big dump. And he tries to

00:14:06.560 backtrack off to that. That's. Yeah. He was intentionally, he was intentionally obtuse

00:14:13.060 about what exactly he was being asked to suppress. I noted that Miranda, uh, can you hang on for that

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00:16:37.600 Peter K. Navarro in for Stephen K. Bannon. We've been talking with Miranda Devine of the New York

00:16:48.720 Post. And here's the chilling picture that Miranda Devine has presented to us. And she's got street

00:16:59.180 credit on this because she wrote the definitive book on the laptop from hell. In fact, it's called

00:17:04.480 The Laptop from Hell. Get It Today on Amazon. What she described in the last segment should chill

00:17:12.720 the hearts and souls of every American. She described an FBI which seemingly on a sustained

00:17:21.880 basis has coordinated its attempts to take out Donald Trump. That's as gently as I can put it

00:17:31.600 with both the mainstream media, the New York Times, the Washington Post, on the one hand, and then

00:17:40.780 the social media, Zuckerberg at Facebook, the Twitter folks, in ways designed to spread misinformation,

00:17:51.460 suppress information, and thereby swing the election in favor of Joe Biden, which, I mean,

00:17:59.120 if you think about the definition of insurrection, those guys are armed at the FBI. And what they did was

00:18:05.760 they engineered an insurrection. They got rid of Donald Trump. So I got a couple of questions

00:18:11.920 for you, Miranda. Is it your view, as I've said it, that the FBI works closely with the media and social

00:18:20.480 media on its disinformation campaigns? And secondly, and more importantly, is this a rogue operation

00:18:28.240 within the FBI by an identifiable small group of agents? Or is this just endemic to the culture

00:18:37.920 at the FBI? Miranda?

00:18:39.700 Look, I would hope that it's the former, but it looks like it's throughout the FBI. I mean,

00:18:50.100 you just look at the Gretchen Whitmer entrapment case in Michigan, and you see how the guy who was the

00:19:00.180 lead agent on that disastrous case was then promoted to the Washington field office to take charge of the

00:19:07.760 January 6th investigation, which is the largest investigation in FBI history. That's absurd.

00:19:14.800 I mean, this was, you know, it was terrible what happened on January 6th. The violence was appalling.

00:19:20.700 But it was a riot that went on for a few hours. And America had just lived through months of rioting

00:19:29.420 in the summer of 2020, leading up to the 2020 election as a deliberate political ploy to sow chaos

00:19:36.180 and make Donald Trump look bad. So I have grave fears. And I mean, people I know, ex-FBI agents

00:19:45.480 confirm that there is a problem throughout the FBI. Obviously, there are lots of very good FBI agents

00:19:52.220 who are still there and keeping their heads down. But, you know, there's talk that a lot of the conservative

00:19:57.460 agents were basically fired or shuffled out or demoted. And a whole young crew of radicals was hired.

00:20:06.820 And maybe that's the New York Post, you mentioned in the earlier segment, names, you actually named names. Has the New York Post done anything to compile kind of a matrix of FBI agents with their names who participated, for example, in the raid in Mar-a-Lago, or putting me in leg irons or going to Facebook and Twitter, or leading the raid on Roger Stone,

00:20:36.040 or being part of the Russia hoax? I mean, it seems to me that if we were able to look at that matrix and see who the agents are, it's either a small, powerful group, or it's much larger. So I would ask you, has there been any effort at journalism to do that, Miranda?

00:20:56.120 Yeah, not graphically. We've written plenty of stories, but you're right. It really needs to be a kind of a heat map.

00:21:02.160 And the matrix of connections between these people. And it is possible to do that. I mean, Chuck Grasley and Ron Johnson and James Comer have been putting out letters and dribs and drabs. You're getting a few names here, a few names there.

00:21:18.180 We had names of a couple of the FBI agents who were involved in the Mar-a-Lago raid came out in some of the documents that were released.

00:21:28.620 And so, you know, it should be possible. I might do it. Just piece together who's who. I have a list of who's who so far.

00:21:37.040 I haven't got a lot of names yet. But it's certainly there is. There seems to be a cabal, a group, and they seem to be centered in the Washington field office.

00:21:50.380 And they've become politicized. At the very least, you say they are politicized.

00:21:54.780 Let's do journalism. Let's do a little journalism on the fly here, too, because what I've learned is that there's at least one or more people who were at the FBI who have migrated over to the Department of Justice

00:22:11.200 and are now working on investigations related to Mar-a-Lago or me or whatever as part of, you know, it's kind of like, how does that happen?

00:22:23.600 Like, like, how can that be that that the FBI now now has people over at the DOJ?

00:22:29.480 Have you have you tracked any of that at all? Do you know? Have you seen any of that?

00:22:33.740 No, I haven't. But I do know that, you know, Obama people, Lisa Monaco and I can't remember the name of her deputy.

00:22:42.280 They were involved in in the, you know, Russia collusion era at the tail end of the Obama administration.

00:22:51.260 And so Lisa Monaco was at the FBI and now she's at DOJ, right?

00:22:56.220 Yeah. And and her deputy, again, same thing. And he had to resign from the DOJ over the initial warrant to Carter Page.

00:23:08.920 I mean, sorry, when I say he had to resign, he just voluntarily resigned himself as as that was becoming a bit of a hot potato.

00:23:16.860 And now he's back as Lisa Monaco's deputy, Monaco's deputy. I can't remember his name.

00:23:23.140 But where do you place Chris Ray in all of this? Chris Ray is like the head of the thing.

00:23:28.360 Is he like the useful idiot for this cabal? 1.00

00:23:31.340 Yeah. Or is he? 1.00

00:23:32.580 I think he's just he's just weak. You know, he's a pretty boy.

00:23:36.700 He doesn't. He hasn't. I think he really has no idea what to lie, die to what's going on below him.

00:23:42.860 And look, the FBI is a very difficult monster to tame because, you know, it has dozens of field officers all over the country.

00:23:50.980 And Chris Ray boasts about how he he takes the FBI's private jet, which he uses to go on holiday in.

00:24:00.040 And he flies all around the country and visits these field officers and has a discussion with them, you know, very open and everyone can tell him what they think.

00:24:09.020 And then he gets back in his plane, goes back to Washington. He thinks that that's enough, but it's not.

00:24:15.400 He's been told he knows. Just if he looked at the letters that Chuck Bradley and Ron Johnson have sent him, they've given him fair warning about the rock within his agency.

00:24:26.020 But doesn't Chris Ray have to sign off on all of these things?

00:24:31.880 I mean, wouldn't he have had to sign off on Mar-a-Lago, put me in leg irons, Roger Stone, the raid on stone?

00:24:39.980 I mean, and by the way, on the pretty boy thing, I love that.

00:24:43.840 I describe Chris Ray as the only guy who has better hair than Steve Bannon.

00:24:47.800 But back to you, Miranda.

00:24:48.760 Yeah, but yeah, look, and the thing about Chris Ray is that he he comes before the Senate inquiries and he's glib.

00:25:01.220 He backs everything away.

00:25:03.720 He he spends half the time defending the men and women of the FBI.

00:25:08.820 It's not about that.

00:25:10.060 You know, Americans are not conservatives are not anti law enforcement as Christopher Ray and Merrick Garland and the Democratic Party are trying to make out.

00:25:21.520 They're pro law enforcement and nothing's changed, but they're not pro crooked law enforcement.

00:25:28.680 And when you have an element, at least an element, maybe the whole culture of the FBI showing itself to be rotten and politicized, then, of course, you have to root that out.

00:25:42.240 Rooting that out is being for law and order, not against it.

00:25:45.580 I mean, that's a that's a big accusation that that that that the FBI now, as it's presently constituted, is acting.

00:25:55.900 They've weaponized their investigatory powers in a partisan way.

00:26:00.200 But but you stand by that.

00:26:01.460 I mean, we've seen enough evidence now.

00:26:03.680 This latest thing after Mar-a-Lago, this latest thing would seem to be the nail in that coffin.

00:26:09.680 Would it not?

00:26:10.260 I mean, how dare they?

00:26:13.040 And what I'm saying is not an unusual view.

00:26:16.480 Rasmussen poll a couple of weeks ago found that a majority of Americans, maybe not a majority, but about 50 percent of Americans felt that the FBI was acting as Joe Biden's, quote, personal Gestapo, which was a quote from Roger Stone.

00:26:32.660 So the FBI's reputation has plummeted, and it's plummeted not because, you know, people at the New York Post or at War Room have been criticizing the FBI.

00:26:46.320 It's because of what the FBI has done itself.

00:26:49.740 Done.

00:26:50.140 You know, the Gretchen Whitmer trial, yes, go is a perfect example of that.

00:26:56.120 And and and there are so many unanswered questions.

00:26:59.760 Revolver News has done a great job of looking into the pipe bomb mystery, those pipe bombs on January 6th planted at the DNC and the RNC headquarters.

00:27:12.360 We've never heard anything about them.

00:27:14.240 And yet the FBI has all that forensic firepower.

00:27:18.500 Surely they could have found something, a fingerprint, a fingerprint in the in the in whatever gunpowder is in there.

00:27:26.120 And they've got CCTV.

00:27:28.120 Miranda, sadly, we're going to have to end our time together, but I want to give you the last 20 seconds or so.

00:27:35.540 I want to recommend Laptop from Hell.

00:27:37.740 Everybody get that on Amazon right now.

00:27:40.900 Read Miranda's column at the New York Post.

00:27:44.240 It comes out a couple of times a week.

00:27:46.220 And Miranda, what's your best way to follow Miranda Devine?

00:27:52.120 Yeah, at Miranda Devine on Twitter.

00:27:54.080 I'm on Getter, Truth Social everywhere.

00:27:58.640 And and also at the risk of log rolling, look out for Peter's book coming up, which will be great.

00:28:03.760 The sequel to In Trump's Time, Trump Time.

00:28:06.180 And also just like to say that of all the people in America, I think Zuckerberg is the most responsible for Joe Biden being in office.

00:28:16.740 All right.

00:28:17.060 There's some breaking news there, too.

00:28:18.360 Miranda, thanks for your time.

00:28:19.760 We'll be right back in the war room.

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00:29:49.640 War Room Pandemic.

00:29:51.820 Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.

00:29:54.100 Peter K. Navarro in for the great Stephen K. Bannon.

00:30:03.080 We're going to shift gears now and talk with the great Dr. Robert Malone about an issue which I've been fighting side by side with him.

00:30:15.300 Dating back, I think our first article in the Great Washington Times was in July of 2021, where we laid out essentially exactly what has happened with respect to the vaccine,

00:30:34.380 whereby we said at the time it should be used parsimoniously only with people who had the highest risk, senior citizens, people with comorbidities.

00:30:47.780 Otherwise, you would run the risk of creating vaccine-resistant mutants and all hell could break loose going forward there.

00:30:57.460 And in a series of three articles in the Washington Times, and salute Kelly Sadler there as the editor who helped,

00:31:06.820 we identified a number of severe side effects, including myocarditis for young men.

00:31:14.860 And now we're in a situation where the government, Fauci, Biden et al., continues to double down, triple down, quadruple down on the need for boosters.

00:31:29.940 At the same time, data is coming in from all over the world that says that we ought to walk away from that vaccine immediately.

00:31:40.780 So that's kind of the chessboard.

00:31:42.220 Doc Malone, did I get that sort of right?

00:31:46.240 And what's the state of play now?

00:31:47.880 What do you want to share with the posse today about this sad situation?

00:31:55.800 Peter, as usual, you summarized it succinctly and accurately.

00:32:00.800 All I can do is fill in some of the granularity.

00:32:03.780 The data from all over the world is demonstrating that those that are highly inoculated,

00:32:08.220 I'm using that word rather than vaccinated for obvious reasons, are the ones that are being most frequently hospitalized and dying.

00:32:17.540 Now, there are those that take issue with that, and they're picking around the edges saying,

00:32:23.880 well, it may be because the elderly or the high risk or the more highly inoculated.

00:32:29.160 But no matter how you slice it,

00:32:31.320 it's now clear that the vaccines are not only not protecting against infection replication and spread,

00:32:38.340 but they are also not effective in protecting against severe disease and death.

00:32:44.780 That's unequivocal.

00:32:47.780 The Pfizer and Moderna have both launched new products,

00:32:55.380 which have two, at least two different spike proteins,

00:33:00.380 one being the original Wuhan one,

00:33:03.400 which is the one that so many people have been inoculated with repeatedly.

00:33:08.540 And the other one is with a Omicron variant,

00:33:12.460 which they assert will protect against BA5.

00:33:16.200 This has now been authorized under emergency use in the UK.

00:33:20.800 So in this case, instead of Israel, the citizens of the UK are being the guinea pigs on this product.

00:33:27.060 And that's the Moderna version.

00:33:29.420 In our case, we've already purchased over $4 billion of worth of these products,

00:33:33.660 and they will be rolled out and administered.

00:33:37.820 The government hopes to do that before the election.

00:33:42.300 And they assert that these are going to be more effective,

00:33:45.300 but they will not perform any clinical trials prior to the deployment.

00:33:49.980 And that is by allowance of FDA and CDC.

00:33:54.640 So no clinical trials, new composition of matter,

00:33:59.880 hoping that some data comes out of the UK to support the safety.

00:34:05.400 But all over the world, the data are coming in that the highly inoculated

00:34:09.240 are getting more disease and more death.

00:34:13.300 And as an expert in this area, my assessment is the form of...

00:34:16.980 Doc, stop right there, because that's really the crux of the matter here.

00:34:22.740 Why do you think...

00:34:23.720 It's not just that the vaccine's not working to prevent infections and symptoms.

00:34:30.440 Why do you think people have a greater probability, in some cases, of dying if they're vaccinated?

00:34:37.900 You're the scientist.

00:34:39.380 What the hell's going on there?

00:34:40.760 That's like weird or not.

00:34:42.920 So the FDA has acknowledged from the outset the risk of antibody-dependent enhancement.

00:34:50.900 And that is a hard thing to prove.

00:34:56.520 What we have are the clear data of the clinical effects and a huge amount of data about original

00:35:08.180 antigenic sin or immune imprinting, which the government has completely ignored.

00:35:14.720 But now, recently, there's been one small article that was overlooked, published in the Washington

00:35:23.020 Post, that acknowledged the problem of original antigenic sin, which is kind of a synonym to

00:35:30.880 immune imprinting.

00:35:32.760 So this is the problem that we spoke about here on the War Room, and I also testified in the

00:35:37.520 Texas Senate, you know, quite, it seems like, forever ago, at least two months, it seems

00:35:43.400 like.

00:35:44.480 And now it's starting to be acknowledged.

00:35:46.940 But you'll recall, I said back then, that I would absolutely not advise anyone to take

00:35:53.240 these products, and that they looked like the perfect storm for making this problem even

00:36:00.220 worse than it already is.

00:36:02.260 And now there's...

00:36:03.680 So, Doc, again, for the posse out there, we're lay people here.

00:36:08.160 This original antigenic sin, as I understand it, not well, but it's the idea that whatever

00:36:15.060 type of vaccine you get, you run the risk of it kind of imprinting your immune system in

00:36:23.880 such a way going forward that, number one, it can't be undone, and number two, it may

00:36:29.340 make you more susceptible to variants of the virus, and therefore, that's dangerous.

00:36:36.040 Is that originally antigenic sin?

00:36:38.400 Is that it?

00:36:39.420 Yeah.

00:36:39.920 The easy way to think about it is that in all of us, and classically in the military, we're

00:36:46.420 biased by our prior experiences.

00:36:48.380 Hence, the Maginot line in the French with the German Blitzkrieg is just one great example 1.00

00:36:54.740 from history.

00:36:56.160 The same is true with your immune system.

00:36:58.780 Your original exposures to a vaccine or a pathogen will bias all of your subsequent immune

00:37:07.220 responses.

00:37:09.080 And that bias that was created in people that were either infected with Wuhan 1, like I was,

00:37:15.640 or have been repeatedly vaccinated in particular with anti-Wuhan 1 spike drives kind of a focus

00:37:24.620 of your immune system towards that, and Wuhan 1 no longer circulates.

00:37:31.200 And so it's been shown in multiple papers, most notably in a science paper that was a study

00:37:38.320 of healthcare workers in the UK, that if you have infection, particularly with Wuhan 1, and

00:37:47.240 then this subsequent boosting, boosting, boosting, it creates a situation where if you get hit

00:37:54.060 with Omicron, you actually have far worse outcomes and worse immunologic response than

00:38:00.320 people that never got reboosted like that.

00:38:02.860 So that's what's going on, and there may be other things that are going on.

00:38:10.320 I'm not saying that...

00:38:12.460 Is there an autoimmune response problem?

00:38:15.560 The autoimmune thing is where your body can overreact to something.

00:38:22.100 I think...

00:38:23.380 So autoimmunity is another problem.

00:38:27.460 So there's so many problems now with the effects of these vaccines that it's easy to get them

00:38:34.380 all mixed up.

00:38:35.960 The autoimmune problem is complicated and multifaceted.

00:38:41.280 One of the aspects is that spike protein binds to many different cells and platelets, and it

00:38:48.680 can act as a foreign antigen that will cause your body to see your normal antigens as if they're

00:38:56.660 foreign.

00:38:57.900 So this is a classic way that autoimmunity happens.

00:39:01.140 And the consequence of this particular problem is observed in the patients that develop an

00:39:06.740 autoimmune thrombocytopenia.

00:39:09.240 That means that their body is attacking their platelets.

00:39:12.980 Are we seeing that as a problem with the vaccines?

00:39:16.600 Has been a problem with the vaccines and noted as one of the adverse events almost since the

00:39:22.060 beginning of the rollout.

00:39:23.120 But again, another thing that's denied by the CDC, as has been the case with so many

00:39:29.740 others.

00:39:31.080 Is there anybody...

00:39:33.360 Let's take the general population now.

00:39:35.880 Who should get the vaccine, if anybody, and who should not at this point, based on what

00:39:41.760 we know?

00:39:42.600 We'll call it the inoculator because we know...

00:39:45.360 When you said it inoculates, not vaccines, we know it's not a true vaccine.

00:39:49.100 But if you're the head of the CDC or NIH right now advising the president, what do you tell

00:39:57.320 them, Doc?

00:39:58.100 Do you tell them nobody should get it?

00:39:59.700 We need a moratorium now?

00:40:01.340 Do we say give it to only the most vulnerable?

00:40:03.940 Where are we at now with a situation which is becoming increasingly an existential threat to

00:40:11.460 the world population?

00:40:12.800 I don't think that's an over-exaggeration.

00:40:15.780 No, it's not.

00:40:17.220 So I don't have to rely just on my judgment.

00:40:20.580 I represent over 17,000 physicians and medical scientists.

00:40:24.160 And we came out with a clear, unequivocal press conference statement a few months ago in which

00:40:32.100 we said, unequivocally, the data are now sufficiently compelling that we believe that these vaccines

00:40:40.520 are not indicated for any population and should be withdrawn.

00:40:45.080 That's a serious, serious policy shift.

00:40:52.780 And the reason why we're talking about this today, frankly, is because we had this strange

00:40:59.700 thing happen on Capitol Hill where this subcommittee on the coronavirus went after me and President

00:41:09.520 Trump.

00:41:10.020 They went after President Trump.

00:41:11.260 They now want to blame President Trump for all the bad side effects of the virus up on

00:41:19.320 Capitol Hill, even as the White House and people on Capitol Hill continue to push for the

00:41:26.380 virus.

00:41:26.960 So that's why we're talking about it.

00:41:29.780 Do you see any Democrats wanting to declare moratorium?

00:41:34.740 Any Republicans or are we essentially a fringe group still at this point, despite the fact

00:41:42.640 we've been right every step of the way?

00:41:46.600 So thank you.

00:41:48.540 And Dr. Navarro, as you know, just because things are true doesn't mean anything in the

00:41:59.180 environment of the kabuki theater that goes on in environments where a single party controls

00:42:05.800 the government.

00:42:07.120 This is not a partisan issue.

00:42:09.660 It should not be a partisan issue.

00:42:11.280 It has been politicized.

00:42:14.840 The actions by that subcommittee, including their attacks on Scott Atlas, clearly demonstrate

00:42:24.460 this ongoing effort right now to rewrite the narrative and to scrub any information on

00:42:31.660 the Internet that is contradictory to the narrative or which would point to duplicity or guilt on

00:42:40.760 the part of any members of the current administration.

00:42:45.180 I hesitate to call it the Biden administration.

00:42:47.200 This should not be partisan.

00:42:50.880 I want to stop you now simply to give you, we've got like 20 seconds.

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00:46:31.320 War Room Pandemic with Stephen K. Bannon.

00:46:34.980 The epidemic is a demon and we cannot let this demon hide.

00:46:38.780 War Room Pandemic.

00:46:40.920 Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.

00:46:43.280 Peter K. Navarro in for Stephen K. Bannon.

00:46:52.720 It's a somber day.

00:46:54.320 It's the one-year anniversary of the Kabul airport terrorist attack.

00:47:01.420 Americans died. 0.99

00:47:03.120 But the sad news here even more is that more Americans may well die.

00:47:09.860 And we want to bring in Sam Faddis right now to describe the dangers in the wake of the irresponsible way in which the Biden regime exited from Afghanistan.

00:47:23.700 So, Sam, on this somber day, tell us what your concerns are.

00:47:32.760 Well, look, we all know that there needs to be an accounting for the disaster that happened a year ago, right?

00:47:39.400 There are a lot of people that need to be held to account.

00:47:42.100 The immediate danger is this, the immediate problem.

00:47:46.020 As much as we'd like it to, Afghanistan did not go away.

00:47:49.800 It's a terrorist super state now. 0.63

00:47:52.000 It's got billions of dollars in U.S. money.

00:47:55.220 We're talking, for the love of God, about releasing to them $7 billion in frozen funds.

00:48:01.120 The Taliban and al-Qaeda are virtually indistinguishable, right?

00:48:05.600 He hit Zawahiri.

00:48:06.820 He was living in a guest house provided by Siraj Haqqani, one of the top Taliban leaders.

00:48:13.060 These guys have money.

00:48:14.640 They've got resources.

00:48:15.880 They've got a platform from which to launch attacks.

00:48:18.740 Their agenda has not changed.

00:48:21.320 And we have virtually no capacity to inhibit what they're getting ready to do.

00:48:25.360 So the bottom line is we're going to get hit and people are going to die.

00:48:28.560 That's the sad truth.

00:48:29.420 And what kind of hits are we talking about?

00:48:34.380 Obviously not kind of conventional warfare.

00:48:38.220 Are we talking about some of bin Laden type terrorist attacks?

00:48:46.140 Yeah.

00:48:46.900 Look, the hallmark of al-Qaeda and groups that have followed its path was to declare war on

00:48:53.820 what they call the far enemy.

00:48:55.880 That's us and everybody that stands with us.

00:48:58.180 In other words, explicitly the battle is not to be fought there.

00:49:02.780 It is to be fought here.

00:49:04.320 That's what 9-11 was all about.

00:49:05.800 At the time we went into Afghanistan in 2001, Osama had multiple biological weapons programs

00:49:14.040 underway, was pursuing chemical weapons, and was in contact with senior, former senior nuclear

00:49:22.380 scientists from the Pakistani nuclear program, and discussing the construction of an atomic

00:49:28.660 bomb for al-Qaeda.

00:49:32.840 9-11 was never intended to be the end of anything.

00:49:38.040 His ambitions at that time were to follow on with attacks that would make 9-11 look like

00:49:42.780 a good day.

00:49:43.380 That remains their ambition, as thick and twisted as that is.

00:49:48.880 The only reason it hadn't happened is because for 20 years we've stopped them.

00:49:52.520 Now we're not doing that anymore.

00:49:54.180 We're giving them breathing space.

00:49:55.680 The result is inevitable.

00:49:56.760 Can you take us back to that day a year ago and explain to the war room what exactly happened,

00:50:11.980 how many people died, and how it could have been prevented?

00:50:15.020 Right.

00:50:17.840 Well, the immediate cause is a suicide bomber, right, who detonates in a crowd, and we end

00:50:24.600 up losing 13 U.S. servicemen, I believe 12 Marines and one U.S. Army person, if I remember

00:50:31.140 correctly.

00:50:32.260 But the broader context in which this happens is you have placed everyone by that point in

00:50:38.800 a completely untenable position.

00:50:41.260 That airport sits in the bottom of a valley surrounded by high ground.

00:50:46.420 We had pulled out our forces, given up Bagram, and allowed everybody to come in in mass numbers, 1.00

00:50:53.200 crowded around, and virtually onto the airfield, well, in some cases, onto the airfield.

00:50:58.280 So the miracle out of that is not that 13 people died, as horrifying as that is.

00:51:04.580 The miracle is that we didn't end up losing one heck of a lot more people.

00:51:09.880 The 18th Airborne Corps, when they were tasked to handle the evacuation, explicitly drew up

00:51:15.300 a plan saying, we need to hold on to Bagram Air Base because we have to have a base of

00:51:20.060 operations.

00:51:20.780 We have to have troops in the crown.

00:51:22.380 They even put together a plan after we gave up Bagram to jump back in and retake it to handle

00:51:29.620 this.

00:51:30.420 The Biden administration intervened and said, no, here's this completely militarily untenable

00:51:35.660 situation.

00:51:37.480 We're sticking you in it.

00:51:38.720 Good luck.

00:51:39.880 That's precisely what happened.

00:51:42.260 Do you know how many acres the footprint of Bagram is?

00:51:45.840 I'm thinking, I mean, there were so many American weapons that U.S. taxpayers paid for

00:51:51.740 that we essentially gifted to our enemies.

00:51:56.040 It would have been impossible to store a lot of that material on the Bagram Air Force base

00:52:04.420 if we had held on it.

00:52:06.920 Sure.

00:52:07.440 I don't know off the top of my head what the exact footprint is, but it's a very large installation.

00:52:11.900 It was originally built by the Russians.

00:52:14.440 Obviously, when they were in Afghanistan, dramatically expanded by us.

00:52:18.620 If you wanted to, you could make it impregnable.

00:52:22.000 Also, by the way, you can destroy things that we don't take out.

00:52:27.600 I mean, if we can't put everything on a plane and we can't safeguard it, you can at least

00:52:33.420 blow it up and render it unusable to the enemy.

00:52:36.420 That's a relatively simple thing to do.

00:52:38.560 And by the way, since we have complete control of the air, every day that passed after we left

00:52:44.400 Afghanistan, we made an affirmative decision not to go in and destroy armored vehicles,

00:52:51.260 weapons, you know, rifles, machine guns, explosives.

00:52:55.700 We allowed it to sit there.

00:52:57.640 We had at any point the capacity to take it.

00:53:00.600 Sam, what was the mind?

00:53:01.500 We only got a minute left here.

00:53:02.860 What was the mindset of the Biden regime? 1.00

00:53:05.040 Was this just fecklessness or did they have a legitimate rationale, stupid though it might 1.00

00:53:12.800 have been, for doing what they did? 0.99

00:53:14.400 You know, I have to tell you that what I think I see in the Biden administration is the most

00:53:21.280 toxic mix of arrogance and incompetence I have ever seen in my life.

00:53:27.800 So they just have no idea what they're doing, but they are ideologues and they are convinced

00:53:33.200 they are on the right side of history.

00:53:35.480 And God knows how many people will pay the price for the way they handled Afghanistan. 0.80

00:53:40.960 Sam, you were a patriot.

00:53:42.200 How do people follow you?

00:53:45.020 You have social media handles.

00:53:48.440 Easiest way to find me is go to And Magazine, which is at Substack, which my wife and I run.

00:53:55.020 Andmagazine.substack.com.

00:53:57.080 That'll take you to everywhere else we are on the net.

00:53:59.260 All right, my brother, we'll bow our heads in prayer for those who died a year ago.

00:54:05.740 Thank you for being on the war room, sir.

00:54:08.240 I'm Peter K. Navarro out.

00:54:11.360 We'll see you at five o'clock.

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Episode 2109： The Laptop From Hell Was Known To The FBI And They Used FAcebook To Suppress And Cover Up; Malone Banned From Twitter; The Attack On Kabul Airport 1 Year Later

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