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Episode 2164： Meckler On Taking Back Washington And Fixing The Structure Of Our Nation.; The Pregame For Taking Back Trump's America; The Freight Strike Might Still Hold Up Transport In America


Summary

On today's show, Steve and Peter Navarro are joined by Mark Meckler, the founder of the Tea Party movement, to discuss: - Coronavirus and its spread around the world - How to win the mid-term election - What to do to win on November 8th - What we should be focusing on in order to win in 2020 - And much more!


Transcript

00:00:00.000 Well, the virus has now killed more than 100 people in China, and new cases have been confirmed around the world.
00:00:05.880 So you don't want to frighten the American public.
00:00:08.180 France and South Korea have also got evacuation plans.
00:00:10.940 But you need to prepare for and assume.
00:00:14.000 Broadly warning Americans to avoid all non-essential travel to China.
00:00:18.240 That this is going to be a real serious problem.
00:00:20.240 France, Australia, Canada, the U.S., Singapore, Cambodia, Vietnam, the list goes on.
00:00:24.700 Health officials are investigating more than 100 possible cases in the U.S.
00:00:28.720 Germany, a man has contracted the virus.
00:00:32.160 The epidemic is a demon, and we cannot let this demon hide.
00:00:35.600 Japan, where a bus driver contracted the virus.
00:00:38.920 Coronavirus has killed more than 100 people there and infected more than 4,500.
00:00:44.780 We have to prepare for the worst, always.
00:00:47.560 Because if you don't, then the worst happens.
00:00:51.040 War Room. Pandemic.
00:00:53.260 Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.
00:00:55.580 Okay, welcome back.
00:00:58.780 We're going to get up Dr. Navarro.
00:00:59.900 By the way, we're doing a, you know, over the weekend, I think the Friday afternoon shows and Saturday morning,
00:01:04.340 we're live from Metro Phoenix area over at Charlie Kirk and the Turning Point USA team's fantastic conference on defeating the Great Reset.
00:01:16.180 And so today, this afternoon, for 5 to 7, we're going to be live.
00:01:20.500 We're going to have, in Washington, D.C., Peter Navarro.
00:01:22.520 We're going to have guest John Tamney, the editor-in-chief of Real Clear Markets.
00:01:26.180 Dave Walsh is going to be there.
00:01:27.420 Dave Bratt is going to be a host of people.
00:01:28.940 We're going to get Mike Lindell beamed in.
00:01:30.600 It's going to be incredible.
00:01:32.080 We're going to go through the politics of what we need to do to win on November 8th and to execute after that what has to happen,
00:01:39.360 the policies that we have to stand firm on.
00:01:41.080 We're going to talk a lot about the deficit, a lot about the budget, a lot about the debt ceiling, all of it.
00:01:46.480 So it's going to be a – Dr. Navarro is going to anchor from a live event with the launch of his new book in Washington.
00:01:53.600 And, of course, we're on the road up until November 8th, so we will be doing it remotely.
00:01:59.300 But it's going to be intense, incredible, and I'm going to be bringing a lot of people into this, so it's going to be great.
00:02:06.260 Dr. Navarro is going to come in in a minute.
00:02:07.600 He's working on some charts, I think, as we chatted about.
00:02:12.060 But I want to bring in Mark Meckler.
00:02:13.200 Mark is one of the founders of the Tea Party movement, a guy I've known for over a decade, not just incredibly smart and very tough, but a great organizer.
00:02:21.520 And he's really been the driving force of back at the Convention of the States.
00:02:23.940 So I had Rick Santorum, Senator Santorum on Friday, tremendous presentation.
00:02:28.280 But a lot of the audience, not a lot, I would say a third to 40 percent, but some of our most dedicated followers.
00:02:35.180 And a lot of people who said, incidentally enough, that they were big supporters of the Convention of the States when you and particularly Mark Levin and others started it,
00:02:42.480 are saying, hey, hang on, I've rethought it, or some guys are coming out and saying everything.
00:02:46.440 So get us up to speed.
00:02:48.400 Where do we currently stand?
00:02:50.220 And they said, hey, some of the states have backed off it.
00:02:52.280 Where do we stand?
00:02:53.580 And quite frankly, Meckler, you're such a special guy.
00:02:56.480 Why have you evolved?
00:02:57.880 You know, you were the Tea Party guy.
00:02:59.300 You were one of the driving forces in back and winning 63 seats in 2010.
00:03:04.920 Why have you really dedicated your professional life to accomplish this?
00:03:10.100 Mark Meckler.
00:03:11.320 Yeah, I'm going to start with the last question first.
00:03:13.400 You know, it's funny, Steve.
00:03:14.560 I remember, literally, I think the first time I met you was standing in line to go into the Russell office building during the height of the Tea Party days.
00:03:20.600 So we've been in this fight a long time together.
00:03:22.900 That goes way back.
00:03:24.120 You probably don't have to wait in line anymore.
00:03:25.740 So, look, this is why I'm doing it.
00:03:29.440 Because back in 2010, we won the largest swing majority in the history of Congress since 1938.
00:03:35.140 I believed everything was going to change.
00:03:36.980 And frankly, not a damn thing changed.
00:03:38.800 They went in.
00:03:39.840 The swamp ate them alive.
00:03:41.740 If I was going to do politics for the rest of my life, I was going to do it in a way that was going to make a difference.
00:03:46.640 And that really didn't make a difference, unfortunately.
00:03:48.240 We helped change the narrative.
00:03:49.480 A lot of good people got elected.
00:03:50.700 I'm glad for that.
00:03:51.780 But Congress didn't really change at all.
00:03:53.600 And so I went back, and with the help of some friends, Mike Ferris among them, re-looked at the system and said, well, if electing this large swing class wasn't enough, what's it going to take?
00:04:03.920 And it wasn't about presidents.
00:04:05.260 It wasn't about elections.
00:04:06.360 It wasn't about personnel.
00:04:07.380 It's that we've broken the structure of our system of governance.
00:04:10.500 We can put as many good people in Washington, D.C. as we want.
00:04:13.720 We're not going to fix it without fixing the structure.
00:04:16.000 And I think it's really important, and you're talking about this.
00:04:17.980 We have to take a legislative branch.
00:04:20.220 We have to take the executive branch.
00:04:21.960 We get that done, and we get more good people on the courts.
00:04:25.400 And then what?
00:04:25.920 Because the problem is any time the administration swings back to Democrat or to radical progressive and Marxist, which is what they really are, we're going to lose a bunch of those gains.
00:04:35.400 And so the way that you fix it is you do the structural fix.
00:04:38.580 The founders gave us the way to do that in Article 5 of the Constitution, and that's what we're doing.
00:04:42.780 Hang on.
00:04:43.020 Hang on.
00:04:43.420 Hang on.
00:04:43.660 I want to get into how you're going to do it, but I just want to set the frame.
00:04:46.060 So if you have a three-pronged approach, and one we're driving for, obviously not just take the House with the appropriations, but really the big is to drive through 2024 to get Trump back in.
00:04:57.500 And in that Schedule F, we now know of the 4,000 political appointees, the whole key is to deconstruct the administrative state, this leviathan that's grown to be a fourth branch of government, and quite frankly, has overwhelmed the other three branches.
00:05:11.540 That's one.
00:05:12.040 We now know in the courts, particularly with Gorsuch as the intellectual, and I say this as much as Roe v. Wade is massive, that the EPA versus West Virginia is actually bigger, and it shows you the direction the court's going.
00:05:24.360 So you have the courts and the young appointees on the federal bench also looking at deconstructing the administrative state.
00:05:31.520 Your point is that that's good, and it's necessary, but particularly the legislative and the executive, we can go back and forth.
00:05:39.540 But you're saying at a deeper level, if you want to take on the leviathan, you've got to structurally do it because what's happened is they've burned the Constitution over the last 30 or 40 years where we've had this leviathan.
00:05:52.360 And your point is that, hey, we need to focus on the administrative state, and the way we need to do that is the statics and dynamics of the structure.
00:06:01.100 And the way we do that, we're not going to amend the Constitution to get out of this.
00:06:05.400 We've got to go back and actually have a convention of states where we can then put forward proposals to do that.
00:06:10.880 Is that essentially the theory of the case?
00:06:13.380 Yeah, that is the theory of the case.
00:06:14.680 And let me be a little bit more specific for you, Steve.
00:06:16.620 You're talking about the administrative state.
00:06:18.580 We need to say constitutionally, no, the federal government may not be involved in education or health care or energy or the environment.
00:06:26.800 These are things that were never intended for a centralized federal government.
00:06:29.740 And the only way to prevent the government from doing them permanently is to prohibit the federal government from doing them permanently.
00:06:36.620 Is that so that's those are the types of things you're talking about.
00:06:39.520 And you're saying the Constitution not just allows for this, but the founders actually thought that this was a way that people could actually keep the federal government in check.
00:06:48.160 Is that also your theory of the case?
00:06:51.300 Yeah, and I would say it's not a theory.
00:06:52.520 This is just fact.
00:06:53.320 If you read Madison's notes two days before the end of convention, September 15, 1787, Mason stands and he says we have a problem.
00:07:00.720 We've given the power to Congress to propose amendments, but not the same power to the people acting through the states.
00:07:05.940 And he says, are we so naive to believe that a federal government that becomes a tyranny will ever propose amendments to restrain its own tyranny?
00:07:12.620 And we know what they said.
00:07:13.820 His his comment there is nincom, which is Latin short for no comment.
00:07:18.080 Nobody argued, no debate.
00:07:19.440 They said we're going to have to give the power to the people to restrain the federal government constitutionally.
00:07:24.840 And that's what we're doing.
00:07:27.200 Let me the other argument people make is opportunity cost in Pandora's box.
00:07:31.960 One, they're saying, hey, the things on.
00:07:33.620 You just saw the we had a lease on Stefanik and Cortez.
00:07:36.860 You have all these created crises, the country, you know, evasion on the southern border, economy out of control, spending out of control, all of it out of control.
00:07:45.560 We got to take all our energy to stop that.
00:07:47.620 And in addition, if this happens, beings that Soros and these guys are so brilliant and so cunning that somehow they will weave their way in here.
00:07:56.800 And next thing you know, you'll have Rachel Maddow and Joy Ann Reed thinking up, you know, let's take out the second member.
00:08:02.660 So what's what about the opportunity cost?
00:08:04.780 Now the house on fire.
00:08:05.960 Do we have time, energy and folks to do it?
00:08:08.560 And number two, are you just going to open up a Pandora's box?
00:08:11.280 Well, first, let's go to opportunity cost, because if we as conservatives can't walk and chew gum at the same time, we're going to lose.
00:08:18.360 This is exactly how they beat us, Steve, is they create crisis after crisis.
00:08:22.280 All we do is we address the crisis.
00:08:24.200 We're always one step forward and two step backs back.
00:08:27.520 That seems to be the Republican way.
00:08:29.060 And that is a loser's way.
00:08:30.480 We're going to lose by playing defense.
00:08:32.340 And so we have to be on offense.
00:08:34.060 And this is an offensive play.
00:08:35.640 And it's not just about convention of states.
00:08:37.740 We participated in over 250 elections around the country at the state legislative level in the last cycle.
00:08:43.840 In 2022, we'll participate in over 450 elections.
00:08:47.620 I'll give you a really specific example.
00:08:49.520 We flipped the Virginia House of Delegates.
00:08:51.280 Everybody knows that.
00:08:52.500 The very last election to be counted in a recount was in Virginia Beach.
00:08:56.420 And the woman who won that election, we have 150 activists in that district.
00:09:00.380 They made over 1,200 calls to low propensity voters.
00:09:03.720 And she won by 115 votes.
00:09:05.900 That's a convention of states district captain.
00:09:08.560 We're doing that all over the country.
00:09:10.100 So we're in the elections at school boards, state legislative, all across the country.
00:09:14.540 And we need to do all of this.
00:09:16.440 We're building the largest and have built the largest grassroots activist army in American history.
00:09:22.120 I want to go back to the state legislature.
00:09:24.220 Part of also the convention of states, and correct me if I'm wrong,
00:09:27.040 is to shift the focus back to the state legislature.
00:09:30.380 And a lot of the work you're doing to get the federal government out of things,
00:09:33.100 you're saying, hey, we need to get them out because that's the rightful purview of the state legislatures.
00:09:38.900 Is that correct?
00:09:40.400 Yeah, that is correct.
00:09:41.380 And we're winning in the state legislatures.
00:09:43.520 If you go back to our Tea Party days, I believe now we're up over 1,400 state legislative seats
00:09:48.660 that have gone Republican since the Tea Party days.
00:09:51.520 And we continue to win.
00:09:52.820 There are something like 164 seats that were won in 2020.
00:09:56.380 I expect to see more of that.
00:09:57.660 We have 31 state legislatures now controlled both houses by Republicans.
00:10:02.060 That'll be 32 or 33 by the end of this cycle.
00:10:05.060 It'll be 34 by the end of 2023 when we flip the Senate in Virginia.
00:10:09.660 That's the place the power needs to be.
00:10:11.820 And then we have the grassroots activists on the ground to make sure that those
00:10:14.500 legislatures are actually doing conservative things.
00:10:18.160 OK, let's talk about the Pandora's box because I want to get back to your grassroots
00:10:22.140 organization here in a second.
00:10:23.600 But I want to go to the Pandora's box.
00:10:24.860 People are afraid that when this thing gets called, it ain't going to be Mark Meckler.
00:10:28.740 It's going to be Mark Elias that's going to be there making decisions and changing,
00:10:32.680 taking away the Second Amendment and a couple of three others.
00:10:35.120 How do you convince people it will be Mark Meckler and Mark Levin, not Mark Elias?
00:10:42.340 Let's just start with what the left is saying.
00:10:44.180 One of the problems we have as conservatives and Republicans is we don't listen to the
00:10:47.940 left and believe them.
00:10:49.420 And this is what they're saying.
00:10:50.360 Five years ago on Good Friday, every single leftist group in the United States of America
00:10:54.420 signed a press release.
00:10:55.540 It was led by Common Cause and Center on Budget and Policy Priorities, both Soros groups.
00:11:00.220 It's Planned Parenthood.
00:11:01.260 It's La Raza.
00:11:02.020 It's Move On, Don't Argue.
00:11:03.280 Hillary Clinton has spoken out directly against this.
00:11:05.680 Howard Dean has spoken out against it.
00:11:07.560 And most recently, you have Russ Feingold, the former socialist senator from Wisconsin,
00:11:12.180 wrote an entire book about it covered by the New York Times, covered by ABC Prime Time.
00:11:16.960 They say that what we're doing is the most dangerous thing happening in America.
00:11:20.640 So if they thought that they could take this over, you'd think they'd be pretty excited
00:11:24.100 about it.
00:11:24.800 And instead, now they're throwing their entire apparatus against us.
00:11:28.060 So for people on the right who say that they're opposed to this, they've now become the tools
00:11:33.020 of the radical left.
00:11:34.120 It's a pretty dangerous place to be.
00:11:36.060 And I'll tell you, Steve, if I found myself aligned with Hillary Clinton and MoveOn.org and
00:11:39.900 Daily Cause and La Raza, I'd reconsider my position.
00:11:43.160 That's where people on the right are if they're opposed to conventionist states.
00:11:46.100 And then specifically about opening the...
00:11:48.600 Let me deal with the opening of the Pandora's box.
00:11:50.700 Before the Pandora's box, I just want to say, Russ Feingold is one of the smartest guys
00:11:54.680 on the left.
00:11:55.800 And that book of his, he took a lot of time to do it.
00:11:57.800 We're going to get into this topic a lot over the coming days and weeks ahead, but I
00:12:01.340 just want to tee the audience up.
00:12:02.640 Tell me about Pandora's box again.
00:12:05.080 Yeah, look, I mean, here, you mentioned the Second Amendment, and this is why it frustrates
00:12:09.380 me so much that people are so scared.
00:12:11.220 First of all, our founders were not fearful people.
00:12:13.320 They were courageous people.
00:12:14.440 The framers were courageous people of faith.
00:12:17.520 And so these people expressed their fear about the Second Amendment, for example.
00:12:20.520 Now, my mom retired as a law enforcement officer.
00:12:22.980 My son's a Marine.
00:12:23.820 We like our guns around here.
00:12:25.200 We're not putting the Second Amendment at risk.
00:12:27.180 And just do the math.
00:12:28.480 Currently, 24 states with constitutional carry.
00:12:31.320 You don't need a permit to carry your firearm.
00:12:33.540 24 states where you can actually carry your firearm in a state capitol.
00:12:36.680 14 states where you can load up a long arm like your AR, sling it across your back and
00:12:41.980 sit in the gallery and watch the proceedings.
00:12:45.020 And I'm not saying that's a good idea.
00:12:46.340 I'm just saying that's the state of play.
00:12:47.940 The idea that you could get 38 states to ratify an amendment to repeal the Second Amendment,
00:12:53.280 that's just asinine.
00:12:53.760 Asinine, Steve, it's ridiculous and it frustrates me that people keep saying stuff like this.
00:12:58.920 Mark, you also have one of the biggest grassroots organizations, particularly focused on things
00:13:03.140 like school boards, things like state legislature, which is so important, particularly House of
00:13:07.200 Delegates.
00:13:08.460 Give us a minute on that.
00:13:09.920 Then I want people to be able to get to your site and start to get all the information.
00:13:12.920 And we're going to work with you to get seminars and town halls so people can debate
00:13:16.860 this and get on board or say, hey, I don't support it.
00:13:20.920 So go ahead.
00:13:21.760 Talk to us about the grassroots, your grassroots movement.
00:13:24.780 Yeah, look, this is your grassroots.
00:13:26.640 I mean, you and I have known each other a long time.
00:13:28.380 That's all I've ever done.
00:13:29.260 I'm not interested in running for office.
00:13:30.680 It's not about having a big fancy office in D.C.
00:13:33.400 What you're looking at is my office in my house.
00:13:35.240 That's where the organizations run from.
00:13:37.500 Over 5 million people in the country supporting this movement.
00:13:40.900 We have activists and supporters in every single state legislative district in the United
00:13:45.120 States of America.
00:13:46.020 We have volunteer leadership teams at the state level in every state, grassroots coordinator,
00:13:51.020 state directors.
00:13:52.080 We have regional directors.
00:13:53.400 We have media liaisons.
00:13:54.880 This is a very sophisticated national grassroots organization that goes all the way down to
00:14:00.060 the state legislative district level.
00:14:02.420 If folks want to be involved in that in all sorts of politics, pro-life, pro-gun, pro-property
00:14:06.800 rights, election reform, they can go to conventionofstates.com.
00:14:10.320 That's where they can sign up.
00:14:11.880 They can donate.
00:14:12.500 They can hit the Take Action tab and volunteer.
00:14:16.020 How did they get to?
00:14:17.240 What's your personal social media?
00:14:19.760 The best place to get me is at markmeckler.com.
00:14:22.520 That's kind of the most intimate place that I post.
00:14:24.760 On Twitter, I'm just at markmeckler and then conventionofstates.com.
00:14:29.520 Okay, Mark.
00:14:30.160 We're going to, we want to do like we did for the Committee on the Present Danger.
00:14:33.180 Do seminars, have people, you know, be able to ask questions, all of it.
00:14:36.800 So we'll have you and Rick Santorum back.
00:14:38.460 But thank you very much.
00:14:39.200 We appreciate your support, Steve.
00:14:40.480 Thanks a lot.
00:14:41.740 Okay, brother.
00:14:42.460 Taking down the administrative state.
00:14:44.300 Got to hit it from every angle.
00:14:45.440 Dr. Peter Navarro on next.
00:14:47.480 And then we have Charles Stallworth with an update.
00:14:50.620 Stallwater with an update on the rail strike.
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00:16:24.780 War Room Pandemic with Stephen K. Bannon.
00:16:28.460 The epidemic is a demon and we cannot let this demon hide.
00:16:31.860 War Room Pandemic.
00:16:34.380 Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.
00:16:36.720 Okay, we've had so much luck with these live events recently and the ones we had at the conference on defeating the Great Reset with Charlie Kirk and the team down at Turning Point.
00:16:49.100 Really want to thank them.
00:16:49.940 It was just spectacular.
00:16:50.880 We're going to be putting up a bunch of clips on Getter and talking about it also this afternoon and tomorrow.
00:16:55.160 But we're doing a massive one this afternoon live with Peter Navarro.
00:17:04.600 Peter, what we know now is there's going to be a live launch event for you two hours from 5 to 7.
00:17:10.200 We're going to be talking economics, politics, how we win in November,
00:17:13.460 but most importantly, after we win, what you have to do to take it back to the House and the Senate and policy.
00:17:20.100 We've got John Tamney, the editor-in-chief of RealClear.
00:17:22.820 Marcus is going to be live.
00:17:24.280 We have Dave Walsh is flying in for it, which is fantastic because so much to talk about in energy.
00:17:28.780 I think Dave Bratt's going to be there.
00:17:29.980 John Fredericks, a host of other folks.
00:17:31.860 Talk to me about what's your theory of the case on the book,
00:17:36.540 and why is the book relevant now for us to do a two-hour special to kind of kick this thing off?
00:17:42.960 Steve, let's start with the title, Taking Back Trump's America.
00:17:46.800 Isn't that not our mission here on the War Room?
00:17:50.100 And what I do in the Taking Back Trump's America book is not only make the case of how and why we need Donald Trump back in the White House in 2024,
00:18:01.860 you and I know, Steve, that the next 50 days mean that we've also, first and foremost,
00:18:08.360 got to get the House of Representatives back from the cold hands of Nancy Pelosi and her partisan Democrats
00:18:15.420 and make sure that that frigging gavel is in the hands of a Trump Republican as Speaker of the House, not Kevin McCarthy.
00:18:26.020 So the Taking Back Trump's America book is all about, Steve,
00:18:29.940 and I go back to the beginning when you and I were in the Trump Tower War Room in August of 2016,
00:18:36.400 and we were working on populist economic nationalist themes to win the 2016 race.
00:18:44.060 And fast forward to 2024 and 2022, it is populist economic nationalism and endless wars, secure southern borders,
00:18:53.680 and yes, bringing our home, our manufacturing base and supply chains.
00:18:56.900 This is the essence of who we are, Steve, and it's all laid out in Taking Back Trump's America.
00:19:02.700 It's a battle plan and blueprint.
00:19:05.160 I just, we're going to have an amazing show.
00:19:07.360 This is why we have the best place in Washington to do a show.
00:19:10.980 This is why we have Walsh and Brad and Tamney.
00:19:15.560 Remember, Tamney, the reason I want to start with Tamney, he's not exactly, remember, we are worker-driven.
00:19:20.760 The whole focus that we've done is to rebuild the manufacturing base in this country
00:19:24.760 and do it around American workers and American products.
00:19:28.460 And so Tamney's going to be on it.
00:19:30.160 He's a little more libertarian, but it's great.
00:19:31.960 Walsh is going to be their energy expert.
00:19:34.720 Brad is going to be there and others.
00:19:36.640 So this is going to be, I'm really excited about this today from 5 to 7.
00:19:40.140 And Peter, we're going to do a bunch of economic analysis.
00:19:42.720 Horrible news today about the 10-year Treasury.
00:19:45.560 Housing, worst number since 2014.
00:19:49.160 10-year bond up or highest since 2011.
00:19:52.220 The Fed's going to meet this week, so we're going to have a lot of economic news.
00:19:56.580 Capital markets, it's going to tie to politics and tie to your life and tie to geopolitics.
00:20:00.840 So, Peter, what's your Getter account?
00:20:03.780 We're going to be doing it live here on Real America's Voice, Frank Speech, all the different platforms of the War Room, up on Getter also.
00:20:10.640 How do people, what's your Getter handle?
00:20:11.980 How do people find out more about this?
00:20:13.420 I'm glad you raised the issue of Getter, Steve, because I am so committed to Getter, the Twitter killer.
00:20:19.040 As I've been doing a lot of these talk shows, talking about taking back Trump's America book,
00:20:24.960 I always make sure that the hosts are aware of Getter, if they have Getter, to help raise the profile in terms of, because Getter is really the key, Steve.
00:20:36.740 Just like the War Room is the key to getting information out in the radio, TV, digital streaming space, Getter is the social media key.
00:20:46.540 So, go to PeterNavarro.com.
00:20:48.700 Real P. Navarro is my Getter handle.
00:20:51.900 It's the Twitter killer, and you can go to PeterNavarro.com and see all things, including Where You Get to Taking Back, Trump's America book.
00:21:00.660 Go to Amazon to get it right now, but you can also now get it in the bookstores starting tomorrow, so that's all good as well.
00:21:08.800 By the way, for all the audience, all the members we met, whether in St. Louis or in the great Q&A in St. Louis, it was amazing.
00:21:15.760 And in Phoenix, and then in Southern California, Huntington Beach, this would be what you guys are, you told me, we love Capital Martin.
00:21:23.280 One other thing, if I may, for the afternoon, one other thing for the afternoon show I want to do is you and I talk about what we need to do to take back Trump's America.
00:21:34.120 And a lot of times I stress how important it is to get Cary Lake in Arizona, Tudor Dixon in Michigan, Doug Mastriano for governors, Fincham, Arizona, Christina Corolla in Michigan for Secretary of State.
00:21:50.260 What I'm going to do today is break down some of the important House seats we need to take that are in play, that we haven't been talking about, but in terms of action, action, action, and the candidate abandon, these candidates need your time or your money.
00:22:08.020 And I'm going to give you a nice list.
00:22:10.420 That's some breaking news for the Battleground show.
00:22:12.800 Perfect.
00:22:13.300 Yeah.
00:22:13.880 Okay, brother.
00:22:14.680 Thank you very much, Peter.
00:22:15.600 We'll see you this afternoon, 5 to 7, live.
00:22:17.800 Peter Navar and a whole team live in Washington, D.C.
00:22:20.260 We're on the road, but we are essentially co-hosting.
00:22:23.860 Okay, Peter, thank you.
00:22:24.860 Ask Charles Stallwater, who's one of the union members of the railroad, because he wrote this brilliant piece.
00:22:29.900 I know he's got some other stuff coming in Newsweek, a brilliant piece in Newsweek about this concept called positive train control, which really is at the heart of what this strike's about, because what they're trying to do, and we're a big believer in really thinking through automation, when it particularly takes not just workers' jobs away,
00:22:47.780 but particularly workers who are kind of on top of transportation, whether it's the airline industry, the trucking industry, cars, the automotive industry, and particularly trains.
00:22:57.900 Charles, I've tried to the degree I could from all the public information out there, from the White House and the mainstream media, drill down on exactly what was agreed to.
00:23:06.060 And I know there's wages, and there's a big debate on whether all 12 unions are going to vote for it or 12 different unions.
00:23:13.060 They all have to do it.
00:23:14.200 But I didn't see anything about this concept of positive train control, and particularly the getting rid of the conductors and just having the engineer run the entire train, particularly when they're 12, 14, 12, 10, 12, 14,000 feet long.
00:23:27.420 Can you get us up to date?
00:23:29.040 Was that resolved in this, or are they kicking the can down the road, sir?
00:23:33.120 Yeah.
00:23:33.500 So it's basically kicking the can down the road.
00:23:36.240 And I think what happened, as a matter of fact, I know what happened, is that this whole situation got so much heat that the railroads,
00:23:43.620 which have been trying to get single-man crews in there just for a long time,
00:23:49.000 they're waiting for everything to kind of get a little bit below the radar before they start trying to implement that again.
00:23:57.800 And that's basically the way that they're going to do this.
00:24:02.440 And the thing is, is that there's no long-term plans in there.
00:24:07.460 The long-term plans are that you're going to go to the single-man crew.
00:24:13.060 If they were to show me something long-term, it would be that both the engineer and the conductor are able to control the train.
00:24:29.440 If you're going to be on the main line actually taking trains back and forth, you would have both people, just like a pilot and a co-pilot,
00:24:38.260 you would have both of those people actually able to control a train because we have had the engineers.
00:24:46.540 But I want to make sure the audience understands there's two converging forces here.
00:24:51.120 You're saying also economies of scale, that the trains are now 10,000, 12,000, 14,000 feet long.
00:24:58.240 You've got these massive trains.
00:24:59.560 And they're still – the concept they have is a single person on a computer that controls a bigger and bigger set of cars.
00:25:10.560 Isn't that setting us up for just catastrophe?
00:25:13.500 Absolutely.
00:25:16.140 So are the unions going to fight – are the unions going to – the union bosses going to take a stand on this?
00:25:22.060 Because this is a massive public safety issue for the American people.
00:25:26.420 They have been fighting on this.
00:25:28.460 It's – here and there, like I said, it's more – we're being approached more like, well, it's coming.
00:25:34.800 But we just might as well be prepared for it.
00:25:36.860 But the thing is, is that if – to me, if the union really wanted to fight for this,
00:25:42.520 this would be something that's on primetime TV.
00:25:45.280 I would have a commercial with a train, which honestly, they really want to go really long term to nobody in the cab at all.
00:25:53.980 And these trains are – and they're basically all computer controlled.
00:25:57.940 That's really what it's – what it really wants – what they really want to do.
00:26:01.740 If the union really wanted to put this in the face of the American people, have a commercial,
00:26:08.360 actually show a train or something like that going down the track with nobody on it.
00:26:13.620 Because that's exactly – or someone or one person that is actually – the person's tired, worn out.
00:26:22.360 You're just – you're completely just in control of this 14,000-foot train.
00:26:27.480 You hope that if something happens to you, that the computer – that there's no kind of issues or anything else.
00:26:33.140 Because we have had issues with the computers losing the GPS signal and things like that.
00:26:38.400 Or actually thinking that it's on a – you know, that it's on possibly the wrong track or something like that.
00:26:43.720 Overall, it's actually a great thing, just like autopilot.
00:26:47.360 It's a great thing.
00:26:48.720 I will say that.
00:26:50.040 But to sit back and say that you're just going to start eliminating people from actually controlling the train,
00:26:56.340 it just makes no sense to me.
00:26:57.800 And like I said, if you want to go long-term, have the conductor dual-qualified with the engineer and say,
00:27:06.260 hey, if something happens to the engineer, which has happened more than just once, it's happened a few times,
00:27:12.120 the engineer has a heart – like I said before, has a heart attack.
00:27:16.080 And next thing you know, this conductor that's not trained to actually control the train
00:27:22.740 is having to be told over the radio how to control the train so we can get this train up,
00:27:27.940 so we can get this body off of the train because, you know, there we are.
00:27:33.040 Charles, we've got to bounce.
00:27:35.200 You're going to come out with another Newsweek column.
00:27:37.400 Is that what I understand?
00:27:38.720 One's in the works right now?
00:27:39.820 Yeah.
00:27:40.640 And the next one is basically – I just want to make sure that people know that it isn't just the transportation side,
00:27:49.500 but it's also the jobs that are being tacked on the maintenance side as well.
00:27:53.060 People that are maintaining the track and things like that.
00:27:56.280 Perfect.
00:27:56.880 Real quickly, what's your social media?
00:27:58.380 How did they get to you, Charles?
00:28:00.260 It's Charles Stollworth.
00:28:01.980 Y'all got my name wrong on that one, but it's Stollworth, S-T-A-L-L-W-O-R-T-H.
00:28:07.480 And it's at metal underscore gear 88.
00:28:12.500 That's my Twitter, and I have my YouTube channel and everything on it.
00:28:16.640 Perfect.
00:28:17.280 Charles, looking forward to having you back up when the Newsweek bars are up.
00:28:20.360 Thank you very much, sir.
00:28:21.040 Appreciate it.
00:28:21.520 Back in a moment.
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00:29:47.260 Okay, we're going to get to, we've got two other people that are driving towards making sure we get victories,
00:29:53.280 not just in November, but victories overall.
00:29:55.480 We've got Karen Siegman who's going to join us in a minute from the American Freedom Alliance
00:29:58.340 and Tony Perkins from the Family Research Council.
00:30:00.620 Remember, we're doing a gathering of the tribes of every grassroots organization that is pushing for victory here
00:30:06.960 because there is no substitute for victory.
00:30:09.040 We've got breaking news.
00:30:09.940 We've got Boris Epstein joins us by phone.
00:30:12.060 Boris, a lot of activity over the weekend, and I do know you went with the president out to Ohio.
00:30:16.040 Can you give us updates on all the legal and how the Ohio rally turned out?
00:30:25.120 Steve, it's an honor to be with you.
00:30:26.760 I'm going to be with the posse, and let me tell you something.
00:30:29.060 It was an absolute, otherworldly, I'd say almost religious experience
00:30:34.120 to be there at the Ohio rally in Youngstown, Saturday night during the Ohio State game,
00:30:40.760 packed house, and President Trump brought nothing but heat.
00:30:44.820 Heat on weaponization of law enforcement.
00:30:47.240 Heat on our destroyed border.
00:30:49.240 Heat on our destroyed American economy, all done by feckless Joe Biden and his pathetic, terrible regime.
00:30:56.320 This rally, I've been, you know, had the honor of being to a good number of them.
00:31:01.100 This rally absolutely stood out.
00:31:03.320 It was bar none.
00:31:05.160 President Trump is in vintage form, and the war room posse, the MAGA movement under the...
00:31:10.840 Hang on, hang on, hang on, hang on, hang on, hang on, whoa, hang on.
00:31:17.140 So Ben Burkholm had to put out a thing.
00:31:19.600 A lot of the mainstream media were showing pictures, you know, an hour beforehand
00:31:23.380 or an hour and a half beforehand, empty seats, and a lot of them were trying to make the case,
00:31:26.620 the mainstream media, that, in fact, Trump's lost heat,
00:31:29.560 and there's harder to fill these venues, and that this venue wasn't totally full.
00:31:33.820 So what's the...
00:31:35.080 Ben Burkholm's actually putting out stuff on Getter and other social media platforms to combat that lie.
00:31:41.280 But tell me from your perspective, what's going on here with the mainstream media?
00:31:44.780 The mainstream media is spinning.
00:31:47.740 They're spinning because the heat is with MAGA, the heat is with President Trump,
00:31:51.880 and they're literally making up stories, just like that fake New York Times story that said,
00:31:56.420 oh, maybe the campaigns don't really want President Trump to come to rallies.
00:32:00.560 That is utterly, disgustingly false.
00:32:02.820 Because every major campaign out there, every major Republican campaign that wants to win
00:32:07.700 is dying for President Trump.
00:32:09.960 And hey, J.D. Vance came out on Breitbart just, you know, a couple of minutes,
00:32:12.760 maybe an hour after that story, Bob's saying, of course we want President Trump.
00:32:16.560 And hey, look at the numbers.
00:32:17.780 President Trump is up by 14, according to Emerson, in the state of Ohio,
00:32:22.520 while the Senate race is effectively tied, according to the state polling.
00:32:25.500 So, you know, any suggestion, any suggestion that there's not absolute and full domination
00:32:33.900 of American politics where President Trump and MAGA is absolutely false,
00:32:38.040 and it was on full display on Saturday night in Ohio, absolutely robust.
00:32:44.460 Okay, can you get us up to speed on all the more the DOJ throwing a, what,
00:32:51.520 a stay-in in the middle of the night on Friday?
00:32:53.320 What's the latest updates?
00:32:55.500 Still, they're doing everything they can to avoid judicial oversight
00:33:00.180 over their review of the documents taken during the illegal, unconstitutional,
00:33:08.600 unwarranted raid of the President's home of Mar-a-Lago.
00:33:11.580 By the way, the President has been commenting about it on truth.
00:33:15.020 He's back at Mar-a-Lago.
00:33:16.260 Now, the scene of that raid and break-in and saying that, yes,
00:33:20.200 you better believe the DOJ absolutely ransacked, beautiful Mar-a-Lago, ransacked.
00:33:25.160 His family home in Florida.
00:33:27.120 So, the DOJ trying to avoid that judicial oversight, going for an emergency stay in the 11th Circuit.
00:33:33.660 They've already put their filing in on that, and the 11th Circuit has requested a reply from President Trump and his team.
00:33:40.280 That is due tomorrow at noon.
00:33:42.640 Also tomorrow, 2 o'clock, the first status conference with the special master,
00:33:47.240 which has been appointed because no matter what's going on now with the back and forth on the stay in the 11th Circuit,
00:33:51.740 and then a separate appeal by the government in the 11th Circuit.
00:33:54.760 They're doing all they can to avoid that oversight, to avoid any sort of transparency,
00:34:00.060 to avoid any sort of responsibility.
00:34:02.580 While all that's going on, the law of the land on this issue is Judge Cannon's ruling,
00:34:07.240 and that ruling has appointed a special master,
00:34:09.820 and it has an injunction in place against the use of any of the documents gotten in the raid in the criminal investigation.
00:34:16.300 So, the first status conference with the special master, Judge Deary, is also tomorrow.
00:34:21.540 That is at 2 o'clock.
00:34:22.780 So, a lot of moving parts, but the bottom line is Judge Cannon's order,
00:34:26.440 her strong, decisive order, is what stands right now.
00:34:30.380 The government is enjoined from using any of the documents, any of the information taken in the raid,
00:34:34.540 in any criminal investigation, and the special master, the judicial oversight, is in place.
00:34:39.440 President Trump continues to win on all fronts.
00:34:42.460 Now, I know we're winning because the Guardian's got a big article up there.
00:34:45.300 I haven't posted on Getter yet saying that, oops, we're finally seeing the sting of the Trump justices,
00:34:52.640 the judges that he put.
00:34:53.980 So, I know, I know now their big complaint is that you got these Trump judges,
00:34:57.940 and they're all fascists, and they're all MAGA, they're all ultra MAGA.
00:35:01.620 So, the progressive left media is now starting to get the joke.
00:35:04.820 They're melting down as people actually start to use the rule of law,
00:35:08.300 and not the weaponization of the DOJ and the FBI.
00:35:11.120 By the way, also in the polling, I think it's the first time ever
00:35:14.500 that the negative, very negative on the FBI outweighs very positive by a significant number.
00:35:20.660 It's pretty shocking.
00:35:21.600 But the FBI has brought this on themselves,
00:35:24.140 and particularly in the case with President Trump and the rest of the MAGA folks.
00:35:27.540 Boris, how do people get to you on social media now more than ever, sir?
00:35:31.840 Steve, here's a little more before I go.
00:35:33.840 And there's an axial story, believe it or not, that shows how big we're winning.
00:35:36.940 And they said, you know, Democrats had a little bit of an uptick in enthusiasm,
00:35:40.040 but now Republicans and MAGA are on the rise.
00:35:43.420 Why?
00:35:43.660 Because the people are disgusted with this raid, with the weaponization of law enforcement
00:35:48.160 and targeting of political opponents.
00:35:49.980 President Trump continuing to stand tall, continuing to fight for our country and our Constitution.
00:35:54.920 You can find me on my website, BorisCp.com, hot on BorisCp.com, hot on Getter at BorisCp,
00:36:00.120 on Twitter at BorisCp, and the hot on Truth Social at Boris,
00:36:03.160 and of course, the hottest on the ground, Boris underscore upside.
00:36:05.920 Stay strong, God bless, and I'll talk to you tomorrow.
00:36:09.680 Thanks very much, Boris. Appreciate it.
00:36:11.240 Okay, I want to bring in Karen Siegman now from the American Freedom Alliance.
00:36:15.840 Karen, first off, you've been fighting the fight of anti-globalization, anti-globalism,
00:36:21.620 for as long as I remember.
00:36:23.400 Walk us through, what's the driving force?
00:36:26.980 What's the raison d'etre of the American Freedom Alliance?
00:36:29.820 What are you guys trying to accomplish?
00:36:32.080 Well, when I first heard about it, which was before I became head of it,
00:36:36.920 the fundamental notion was the preservation and defending of Western civilization,
00:36:43.300 which I remember thinking that sounds a little bit hysterical.
00:36:46.460 But the fact is, as you know, it's not hysterical at all.
00:36:50.520 It's existential. It's very real. It's of real concern.
00:36:54.720 Our Judeo-Christian values on which we are founded are being destroyed
00:36:58.980 on a daily basis.
00:37:00.240 Every fundamental precept on which the United States is built
00:37:06.240 and Western civilization is built has been under attack.
00:37:10.300 I always thought it was by the left, which, of course, it is,
00:37:13.300 but it's deeper than that, as I've learned.
00:37:15.440 Every single institution is under attack.
00:37:17.540 Education, media, religion, banking, you name it, it's under attack.
00:37:23.980 So they want to destroy us.
00:37:26.840 They want to destroy everything that brings prosperity,
00:37:29.320 everything that brings freedom, everything that brings out the best of humanity.
00:37:35.880 They have been seeking to destroy.
00:37:37.940 And my original fight was against the media.
00:37:41.140 Without the media, they couldn't do anything.
00:37:43.040 But now it's definitely grown, that my battle has, my view of it has.
00:37:49.860 It's sort of like putting on, you know, new kind of glasses that allows you to see
00:37:54.860 infrared and various other colors of the spectrum or light of the spectrum.
00:38:00.300 And once you start to see what's going on, you can't help but try to broadcast it,
00:38:05.540 as I know that's your raison d'être as well.
00:38:08.520 As you talk about this, and you say alliance, what are you guys trying to accomplish?
00:38:14.400 I know we're going to talk about the conference in a second, but what's the driving force?
00:38:17.960 What are your objectives?
00:38:20.820 Well, without people working together again, as you know, we're just voices in the wind,
00:38:28.740 or that's what it feels like.
00:38:30.600 And so we are an alliance.
00:38:33.280 When AFA was originally founded, there were five specific threats that we fought against.
00:38:38.220 Islamization of Europe, global governance, radical environmentalism, indoctrination rather
00:38:45.380 than education in schools, and propaganda rather than information in the media.
00:38:50.860 So anybody who was part of any of those fights, we have taken on as allies.
00:38:57.400 Since then and during COVID, we became, you know, more focused on mandates.
00:39:01.620 We had a choose freedom coalition, and we were working in those directions to fight mandates,
00:39:07.920 to fight emergency orders, to fight everything going on in schools.
00:39:11.860 We need to be talking with one another.
00:39:13.940 We need to be working together.
00:39:15.960 I know, probably same as you, every time I turn around, somebody blossoms up and says,
00:39:20.460 oh my goodness, you know, we need to start doing this thing.
00:39:23.400 And you want to let them know that there are already people working on this thing,
00:39:27.100 and maybe we should all be working together.
00:39:30.800 You're also, the alliance has done a great job of reaching out and having voices from Europe
00:39:35.720 and other parts of the world so that an American audience can actually meet these people
00:39:39.380 and understand that this is a joint fight.
00:39:42.700 Tell us about that.
00:39:43.500 Right.
00:39:44.180 We have had allies.
00:39:45.320 We continue to have allies in Europe.
00:39:48.420 October 2019, our last big hurrah before the world shut down,
00:39:53.600 we had a global freedom movements conference, and it was astounding.
00:39:59.100 We had about 24 speakers from around the world, including many, many, many from Europe.
00:40:05.760 We had Thierry Baudet from the Netherlands.
00:40:07.520 We had people from England, Belgium, Italy, France, Germany, Austria.
00:40:13.520 And then we actually had an entire panel from South Korea.
00:40:16.840 And that was absolutely fascinating.
00:40:19.300 And we had decided we would remain allies.
00:40:22.860 And that October 2019 event would be the first of many such annual events.
00:40:30.040 And of course, then the world shut down.
00:40:32.040 But we're trying to spin that back up.
00:40:34.480 And the idea of that was, of that conference, the Global Freedom Movement's conference,
00:40:39.040 was all these people all around the world are fighting each their own battles in their own countries.
00:40:46.600 But who they were fighting against was very similar.
00:40:49.300 Again, it was all against the left.
00:40:51.220 It all turns out against the globalists.
00:40:53.020 It was against the EU.
00:40:54.080 It's against the EU.
00:40:55.360 It's all against these things.
00:40:56.960 But each in their own country were feeling like they were fighting alone.
00:41:00.680 And so getting them all together in this one place in Southern California was unbelievably powerful,
00:41:07.640 not only for our audience, but for the speakers as well.
00:41:12.620 So in Southern California, the 1st and 2nd October, you're going to kick it back off.
00:41:16.900 I'm actually going to be there and be one of the key speakers on the 1st.
00:41:20.340 Tell people, and we want people from all over California and, quite frankly, Arizona, Nevada,
00:41:25.000 and throughout the country to attend.
00:41:26.420 But walk people through, where do they go, what are they going to see,
00:41:30.340 and how do they find more information about this?
00:41:32.480 Because this is going to be a big deal.
00:41:33.560 It's your first one coming back from COVID.
00:41:35.500 It will be astounding.
00:41:38.080 Again, once you start looking at things and you put on different glasses and see,
00:41:42.980 and you're able to see much more, we realized, as, of course, you have,
00:41:48.440 there are globalist puppet masters.
00:41:51.180 Who are they?
00:41:52.080 And two years ago, people had said, you know, we think we have representative government,
00:41:56.940 but we really don't.
00:41:58.000 We think we have local control, but we don't.
00:42:00.300 We think we have, you know, a voice, but we don't.
00:42:03.120 There are really people pulling the strings.
00:42:05.520 Really, two years ago, I thought they were crazy.
00:42:08.260 Now I know they're not crazy.
00:42:09.600 I know that this is all for real.
00:42:11.120 There are globalist puppet masters from NGOs, World Economic Forum, Rockefeller,
00:42:18.980 Club of Rome, to the United Nations, to, you know, all these organizations are woven together.
00:42:26.300 And, you know, this is my international symbol for puppet masters.
00:42:29.580 They're pulling on the strings of who we think are elected.
00:42:32.420 They are elected officials.
00:42:33.940 So how do they get, where do they go to get information?
00:42:37.360 When many people attend online and in person, where do people go?
00:42:40.240 Go to AmericanFreedomAlliance.org.
00:42:43.660 That's where you can find the link for tickets.
00:42:46.000 It will be in Southern California, October 1 and 2.
00:42:48.700 You'll be speaking October 1st at the conference.
00:42:52.240 And we also have a post-conference dinner on the 1st.
00:42:55.300 It's also on the 2nd.
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00:43:05.960 Steve Coghlan, James Lindsay, Michael Fallon, who you were just with.
00:43:10.580 It's going to be an amazing event.
00:43:12.500 So American People, Science, and I'm sure.
00:43:14.900 This is an all-star cast.
00:43:16.320 We're going to do a lot more in the run-up to this.
00:43:18.660 Karen, thank you very much.
00:43:19.560 You've been fighting the good fight.
00:43:20.800 And this is a massive conference.
00:43:22.800 Everybody's got, and particularly in the area, has got to attend online also.
00:43:26.620 Okay.
00:43:26.800 Tony Perkins, Family Research Council.
00:43:29.060 Next.
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00:45:51.020 Ask Tony Perkins.
00:45:52.200 He's jammed for time.
00:45:53.320 But we asked Tony to join us today.
00:45:54.940 Tony, I heard the summit last week.
00:45:58.080 And people should know the structure.
00:45:59.060 When people come here from Labor Day, all the different groups had these summits or conferences.
00:46:03.720 And it's to get the motive force and the drive to the election day, this time for the midterms.
00:46:09.960 Tony, I heard the Family Research Council summit was just on fire.
00:46:14.720 I heard enthusiasm, the size of it, the intensity of it, the quality of the workshops.
00:46:19.240 But just everybody coming together saying, hey, we know what we got to do.
00:46:22.500 Let's go ahead and do it.
00:46:23.580 Walk us through what happened, sir.
00:46:25.440 Well, Steve, thanks.
00:46:26.160 Great to be with you.
00:46:27.000 Well, it was our Pray Vote Stand Summit, and this is reaching those sage cons, which we call spiritually active, governance-engaged conservatives.
00:46:37.740 And you and I have talked about that.
00:46:39.320 But there are about 23 million Americans out there that vote.
00:46:44.060 And they were 14% of the vote in 2020, but they were about 30% of President Trump's vote.
00:46:50.820 This is a very significant crowd.
00:46:52.900 It's why the media wants to ignore them.
00:46:54.280 They want them to go away.
00:46:55.260 That's why we hear all this stuff about Christian nationalism.
00:46:59.200 What we're talking about here over this weekend, the Pray Vote Stand Summit, was about American history, about how people of faith have been involved in our country.
00:47:08.580 And so that was the message we brought.
00:47:11.120 And as you said, folks responded, they are not going away.
00:47:15.400 They're going to engage because they know what's at stake.
00:47:17.840 You know, they had four years of freedom.
00:47:20.700 They had four years of prosperity.
00:47:22.900 And now they have, you know, we're two years into the misery.
00:47:25.820 And people want to see change.
00:47:29.220 The media, and they did this, as you know, because you've been around 2010 and these other years we had these massive wins, particularly in 2010.
00:47:36.420 They always come at the end and try to have these suppression polls on stuff.
00:47:40.080 Right now they're saying, oh, my gosh, Roe v. Wade and the Christian Nationalists and all these crazy evangelicals and traditional Catholics, the craziest of the crazy, the craziest hobbits out there, have now teed off Karen because of the abortion.
00:47:52.860 And they're signing up in bigger numbers and the Republicans went from a tsunami to a puddle.
00:47:58.900 Coming out of the summit, do you buy that?
00:48:02.160 No, I don't.
00:48:03.080 This is what I think.
00:48:04.280 And by the way, all the panels were great.
00:48:06.100 Steve Cortez was there talking about the Hispanic community and the engagement.
00:48:10.460 And here's what's happening.
00:48:12.000 And I think this discovery, this is something I think you and I have been talking about for years.
00:48:16.240 But the fact that the Hispanic community shares our values, the way to reach them are these basic core Americans.
00:48:22.860 It's not government handouts, what the Democrats are going after them for.
00:48:26.200 They want purpose.
00:48:27.500 They want meaning.
00:48:28.020 That's why they're coming to America.
00:48:29.660 And so when we look at these issues of the sanctity of human life in the family, really, in one of the panels we talked about with George Barna and Mark Nuttles was the family has become the last bastion for Americans.
00:48:45.300 Everything else has failed them.
00:48:46.900 And they're going to do whatever they have to do.
00:48:49.240 They're going to circle the wagons around the family.
00:48:51.420 And so this is where the Hispanic community comes in.
00:48:54.620 That's one of the reasons they're coming here to this country is that they want the best for their family.
00:48:59.160 And the last thing they want are some Marxists destroying their family because that's what they fled.
00:49:05.680 Tony, give us a minute on, you know, you and General Boykin have been doing such great work for many, many years.
00:49:12.880 Tell our audience, maybe those who are not that familiar, what is Family Research Council?
00:49:17.600 Why is this so important?
00:49:18.580 And why have you been such a bedrock of the conservative movement?
00:49:22.440 Well, Steve, we've been around.
00:49:23.520 In fact, this next year we'll celebrate 40 years.
00:49:25.500 I've been here going on 20 years at the Family Research Council.
00:49:28.680 So we work on policy in our nation's capital and in state capitals across the country.
00:49:34.760 We work to shape policy as it pertains to the family from a Christian perspective.
00:49:39.100 We're unapologetically Christian.
00:49:40.780 We believe that the Bible, the founders believed that the Bible was good enough to build a nation upon.
00:49:45.800 We believe it's good enough to continue to guide a nation today.
00:49:48.420 And so that's the perspective we come from.
00:49:51.180 We have a political arm, which was a co-sponsor of this event, but our work is primarily on policy.
00:49:57.540 And that's what we did during the Trump administration.
00:50:00.260 You and I talked many times and we made tremendous strides in those four years.
00:50:05.400 Of course, a lot of that has been lost in the last two years.
00:50:08.160 So what we, when you look at the sage cons, and I know that's a term that's unfamiliar to most,
00:50:14.340 that's spiritually active governance engaged conservatives.
00:50:17.520 And if someone wants to take a quick survey to see if they're a sage con,
00:50:21.120 they can actually text the word sage con to six, seven, seven, four, two.
00:50:25.560 That's six, seven, seven, four, two.
00:50:27.460 The word sage con that's S A G E C O N.
00:50:31.440 And you can take a quick 10 question summary survey.
00:50:35.200 And basically it is, it is this, these are people and they're all across this country,
00:50:40.660 Steve, and you know, because you saw how important they were in 2016.
00:50:43.900 They show up regardless of what the media says about the candidate, you know, they did everything
00:50:50.180 they could to discourage these conservative Christians for, for, from voting for Donald
00:50:55.740 Trump, but he embraced conservative policies that were in line with their faith.
00:51:01.400 And the reason they're involved politically is because of their faith.
00:51:05.680 That's why I'm doing this.
00:51:06.760 I was a police officer.
00:51:07.580 I was happy with what I was doing, but I'm engaged in the process because my faith led
00:51:12.560 me to be.
00:51:13.140 And that's what a sage con is.
00:51:15.140 And here's the thing that the media doesn't like Steve.
00:51:17.840 And you know that these people won't go away.
00:51:20.840 So they have to do everything they can to discourage them, marginalize them.
00:51:25.960 And this is why alternative media is so important, like what you're doing and others, because
00:51:30.460 now the legacy media has completely shut them out and does not even talk about their issues
00:51:36.080 from a perspective that they can identify.
00:51:38.820 All that's designed to make them feel isolated.
00:51:41.940 That's why we do the PrayVoteStand Summit.
00:51:44.300 And we, we had so much information and folks can actually find it.
00:51:48.720 They can go back and look at PrayVoteStand.org.
00:51:52.240 We've got all of it archived there with the speakers.
00:51:54.180 A few, a few political leaders, but mostly spiritual, cultural leaders.
00:52:00.060 Those who are actually walking through this, experiencing the hostility in the public school
00:52:05.260 classroom, parents who have had their rights taken away by, you know, the educational establishment
00:52:11.720 attacked by the culture, those that are taking on Disney and woke corporations and how you
00:52:16.920 can be a part of that fight.
00:52:18.140 That is what this weekend was about.
00:52:20.840 Tony, we're going to send everybody to the site and we're also going to have them do the
00:52:24.040 text and take the, take the test and see if they're a stage kind of not.
00:52:27.900 Tony Perkins, you're a rock.
00:52:29.920 I'm telling you, one of the major, major reasons that the first Trump administration was so
00:52:33.660 successful.
00:52:34.260 So thank you very much.
00:52:35.100 Our Tony Perkins, Family Research Council.
00:52:38.080 Back here at five o'clock tonight.
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