Episode 2169： Live On The Ground From FAIR And The Catastrophe At The Southern Border; We Are Witnessing The 1970's 2.0 When It Comes To Inflation
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On today's show, we have a special guest on the show, Homeland Security Secretary John Kelly. We discuss the situation at the southern border and how to stop the flow of illegal immigrants across the border into the United States.
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We don't mind. We welcome immigrants, but we want them to come here legally.
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Definitely. I think that providing a safe passage is the right thing to do because
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we keep them from exposing their lives to enter through a river that is very dangerous. And
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risking the lives of children and mothers and families is not the right way. We need to provide
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that safe passage through ports of entry. And I think that right now, something like that is
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already happening through exemptions to Title 42, just amplify and secure that process would be
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excellent. So, Mr. Secretary, let's talk about the border for a minute. We heard from the president
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yesterday, asked about the situation. He noted that the countries, northern trial countries in Mexico,
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fewer migrants at this moment are coming to the United States. Really, instead, it's three other
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nations. It's Venezuela, Cuba and Nicaragua. That's where the issue is. What's your assessment of that
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and what can be done about it? It's very much an evolving picture.
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When I was in office, the numbers were annually about 300, 400,000 a year. We're now getting that
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in a matter of six to eight weeks. Also, when I was in office, as Sister Norma knows, we were dealing
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with migrants from the Northern Triangle, women, children from Guatemala, Honduras, El Salvador.
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That is less so now. It's, as you noted, Cuba, Nicaragua, Venezuela. Those countries are literally
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imploding. And the migration is headed not just to the north, but to the south as well.
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On top of that, we do not have diplomatic relations, good diplomatic relations with these countries. So,
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they do not agree to repatriate their citizens. We can't send them back in the conventional way,
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like you would in Central America. So, the resources we have on the southern border to deal
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with this, the border patrol, the holding facilities, are much bigger now than they were
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seven, eight years. But the numbers are much bigger, and the smugglers are much better at this.
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They have bigger buses. They have more ability to move larger numbers of people.
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Okay, okay. I can't hear any more of the lies and spin. The reason we had Northern,
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Trump had a deal with the Northern Triangle to remain there, remain in Mexico. This is all lies
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and spin. And look, as a Catholic, I can tell you, Catholic Charities is the worst. They're taking
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billions of dollars from the federal government. It's a complete scam. And it's another part of the
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left-wing, radical, progressive apparatus of the Catholic Church, taking government money
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to fund themselves, to basically bring illegal aliens into. They're part of the support mechanism,
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support apparatus for the invasion of our country. And you see there, one of the top guys in the bomb
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administration just lies and spin, right? This is an invasion. They know what they're doing.
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This has all been worked through. We've had Todd Benson. We've covered this for two years since the
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very first days of this administration. And we told everybody what was going to happen.
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Don't want to say another called shot by the worm, but another called shot by the worm. We told
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exactly what was going to happen. And as Peter Navarro said on the live show the other day,
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even I was overwhelmed by the numbers. I never thought the numbers would get over a million or
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two million. These numbers are incomprehensible. And it's a full-on invasion. And now that people
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like DeSantis and Abbott, and Abbott ought to focus on shutting down the border in Texas
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and less about shipping migrants and their illegal aliens into the country.
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But DeSantis is doing it in Martha's Vineyard was a stroke of genius. It's got these guys in
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their back foot. They don't want to talk about immigration in the run-up to, because we told
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you the issue set, it's the issue set in the electorate that you get. The issue set now,
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we're up 36 points on border security. We're up 19 points on immigration. We're up 23 points,
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I think, on crime, if memory serves me correctly. I'll pull my numbers here in a second.
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I want to start. So we're going to go to FAIR, the Federation for American Immigration Reform,
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one of the great groups. They're having their traditional radio row.
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MTG is with John Frenders, Ben Berquam, the entire Real America Voice team. We're going to go
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there momentarily, but I want to start with Colonel Doug Mastriano. Colonel Mastriano,
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the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania, you're running for governor against a radical,
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a radical open borders, soft on crime, radical. And their position in him now is, you know,
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this guy is a savior. This guy's going to do this. Your opponent is a radical open borders.
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How big a problem is illegal alien crime and Biden administration shipping illegal aliens into?
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Because remember, we go through all this, when they talk about these countries, these are economic
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migrants. These are economic people coming here for the economy. I understand it's better here.
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We are not demonizing them. They're making rational decisions because they're getting into the
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United States. It's our leaders that are lying to us. These people have no right to asylum.
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The whole scam is get them in. They don't, New York Times reports, they're not even going to get
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their first hearing, the real hearing until adjudication for seven years. They don't even
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know, the ICE guys will tell you, we don't know where people are. We've had 4 million. New York
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Times admits 2 million. And the other way they're positioning this wrong on the headlines and the
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Chirons, they've been arrested or detained. They're not sent back to Mexico. That's in the
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country, baby. They make it seem like on CNN, oh yeah, there are 2 million arrested, 2 million
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stopped, 2 million detained. No, no, no, no, no, no. That's just giving them, that's giving them the
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EBIT card. That's giving them telling where they can go to school. That's shipping them into the
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interior of the country. Every state's a border state. Every town's a border town. Colonel Doug
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Mastriano, what is the situation in the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania, given the radical,
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radical administration of your, uh, of your opponent who is the attorney general in the
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Commonwealth, sir? That's right. And as you mentioned, he's been the attorney general now
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for six years and he has a record that he's running from because on his watch, we've seen,
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you know, murders go through the roof. Crime is up 37%. You know, Philadelphia is like the wild,
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wild west and the grave diggers. Uh, there was an article that they can't even keep up bearing
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mostly young 16 to 18 year old kids. Most of whom are just caught in the crossfire. You know,
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most of whom are just innocent bystanders and being killed by this lawlessness. Uh,
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he's supposed to be the senior long enforcement official of our state and he's failed in his
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job. Uh, the key note specifically, there's a lot we can talk about on the border and you
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know, how every state, as you said, is a border state. Now that's a fact we've had ghost flights
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coming in here, dumping off illegals. Uh, one plane load this past, uh, after Christmas
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around new year's last year, it was 120 passengers. And of the 120 passengers, 113 were kids.
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I mean, are you kidding me? And I, you know, demanded answers from the governor. Where did
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you drop these, where are these kids? Where are the sponsors who take care of them? Who are they?
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Where are they going? And that Tom Wolf ran from and Josh Peer doesn't care. And, uh, here's the
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deal. I think the exclamation point on this is the fentanyl deaths in Pennsylvania. I mean,
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it's like a plague in America, a hundred thousand last year, Pennsylvania, the fourth highest in a
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nation with fentanyl deaths. And that's coming across that forest border. And, uh, you know,
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we have young people being killed left and right in our cities here in my own district,
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a young man named Tyler thought he's laying up buying a painkiller. It wasn't his fentanyl
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ways to kill them. 18 year old young man, his life's being eliminated because of one bad
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choice. And the dealer was out walking just a couple of weeks later. And, uh, so I've introduced
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the bill to, uh, put, uh, if you're dealing with death and you're a drug dealer and you kill
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somebody 25 years, uh, minimum, but I'm also introducing legislation. I'll also offer the
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death penalty. Now that Josh up here is not doing the job. We're going to have to make sure
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we beat him because this, we are a sanctuary state now, Pennsylvania, because there's no
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mechanism for our law enforcement to ascertain if people are illegal and then what to do
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with them. You said the grave diggers can't even keep up with the bodies. Correct me if
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I'm wrong, but aren't most of these deaths coming from, from being gunned down in cold
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blood of these kids. Aren't most of these minorities, the innocent minorities that are
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being gunned down. Yeah. Most are African American in Philadelphia. Uh, most of them, uh, many of
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them have walked away from school because of the heavy handed policies of the school union,
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which owns Josh Shapiro, by the way, uh, our, the kids are failing in a school. They're,
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they're resuming. And then they're constantly masked. The kids in Philadelphia are back in
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masks again. And a lot of these kids are like, you know what, forget this. And so they're out
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and they're getting killed in cold blood. Uh, Philadelphia, it's time for a change.
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Einstein defined insanity is trying the same thing over and over again and expecting a different
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result. You've had a Democrat mayor since 1950 and they've failed you. You've had a
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Democrat city council since 1962. You got nothing to lose, but everything gain. It's time to try
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somebody who's going to come in and be a new sheriff and town mayor and have law and order
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and make it safe for your kids to survive every day and succeed in schools.
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Correct me if I'm wrong. Although he's got a massive money advantage and that's because,
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uh, every, uh, progressive left, uh, uh, you know, radical is given money from New York
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city and all these other places to Shapiro. The latest polling shows essentially a dead
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heat. Walk me through the polls. Yeah. So, uh, of course, uh, Richard Barris has a great
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polling group, which is highly respected. He's very accurate. He had myself and Shapiro about
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a week, a week and a half ago tied at 43 points each. Uh, Trafalgar had a poll last week and
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I'm just talking recent polls has been two points down from Shapiro and that's with an oversample
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of 4% Democrats. And we know, of course, Republicans come out in greater numbers. And here's the
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thing, Steve, uh, hats off and hats off. You know, I got to nod over to Democrats. They see how
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important Pennsylvania is. If you want a free and fair election in 2024 for president in
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Pennsylvania, we got to win in 2022. I get to appoint the secretary of state. Uh, the Democrat
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organizations from around the nation are pouring millions of dollars, millions and millions of
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dollars into this race here. Uh, the Republican institutions and organizations are not pouring
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money into this race. And so they're, they're, they're willing to lose Pennsylvania. And, uh,
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it's a bit disconcerting that they don't see how important and critical this is. It's chasing
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fantasies in Oregon and other States is nice, but it's not even a realistic thing in my mind,
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Pennsylvania. We can win it, but we need the resources to pull it off. Yeah. The, the,
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the, the order of magnitude of a Pennsylvania win can not be overestimated. We must win
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Pennsylvania. We must win the governorship. Okay. Let's go to, um, uh, here's what I want
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to do is make sure the polling, by the way, Barris has got you in a, in a dead heat. Uh,
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Trafalgar has got you a plus two, but it oversampled the Democrats. Remember it's the
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issue set in the electorate that shows up. Doug Mastriano has to get that electorate out there.
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Doug, where do people go to find out more about your, uh, events and where you're going and where
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do they go to find out how they can support your campaign? Yeah. And we're on all the social media
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platforms, but to make it easy for people, go to my website, it's Doug for gov.com. Doug,
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the number four gov.com. Uh, the events are there. Americans, wherever you live in the world,
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if you're American citizen, you could donate to my campaign. There are no limits in Pennsylvania.
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You could donate up to a million, over a million bucks. You can donate 10 million bucks if you want
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to, but we're, we're a small donation campaign. Obviously that's how we're running it. Um,
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just one more vignette, Steve. So we had the March for life on Monday in Pennsylvania. And there,
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there was at least 5,000 individuals at the March for life at the steps of the Capitol of Harrisburg.
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It was beautiful. It was fantastic. Yesterday, Planned Parenthood did their March. So I told
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you we had at least 5,000 and I'm low balling that. Uh, they had about 85 people for Planned
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Parenthood shut up and they left the mess on the steps. They left crash everywhere. What we're
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being told in the media about how the decision on Roe v. Wade in June by the Supreme court is motivated
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the base of the Democrat party. I believe that's disinformation. I had not seen that. I've seen
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that our base is more motivated than ours. We need to keep that up through November and take our state back.
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Colonel Mastriano, I couldn't agree with you more. I think every set of analysis I'm looking at,
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that's just, that's just media hype. They're trying to suppress our people. They're trying
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to depress our people. And by the way, we're rising, we're ascending and we're winning and
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we're going to win the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania. Colonel Mastriano, one more time, where do people
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go to get to find out more about your campaign? Go to dougforgov.com and then consider making a
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donation. Everything's at stake. We are the keystone state. This is just not another gubernatorial race.
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If you want to have a free and fair election for president 2024, it starts right here.
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This year in Pennsylvania. So please do all you can to get out the vote and donate to
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Colonel Mastriano, an honor to have you on here.
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Every state's a border state. Every town's a border town, but let's go to the border. Mark
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Fincham is running for secretary of state and he is on fire. Fincham, I want to start off with some
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polling. Trafalgar has you up seven. OH Predictive, I think it's just, I don't know if we have that
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back at Real America's Voice headquarters in Denver. I think it has you up five. I don't want
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anybody leaning on any shovels. I don't want anybody to say, well, Fincham's up. I don't need,
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no, no, no, no, no. We need everybody to the ramparts, everybody to turn out. This is a
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grassroots rebellion. You need to do it. And Arizona is the railhead. Fincham, why are you up
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right now in this polling? And quite frankly, tell me, since we're talking about the invasion
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on the southern border, Arizona's books and records are a mess in this. Katie Hobbs is
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purposely the Democrats look the other way. What are you going to do as secretary of state, sir?
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Well, number one, we need to clean up the voter, the voting poll book. We've got people on the
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polls, on the books that shouldn't be there. We've got, and by the way, I want to talk just a
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second about the border coming up. They were talking about women and children. That's BS. These are
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military, these are fit, military age men coming across the border. That's what's being, that's what's
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being interdicted. So we've got people on the voter rolls that don't belong there. These are not legal
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citizens. We've got fictitious individuals that have to be scrubbed from the list. And this all
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goes back to a question of whether or not there's an ability to reassign vote. We've got some evidence
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that, frankly, it is possible, but we've got to catch them doing it. Now, as far as the polls go, we are
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not taking our foot off the gap. Nobody gets to take their foot off the gap. We've got fundraisers from
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today right on through the last weekend before the election that are scheduled. We've got some space for
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other fundraisers that might want to hold for us. Yeah. We need to raise about 500
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K in the next 25. Got to tell you what, Fincham, hang right there. We're going to take a short
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break. Come back with Mark Finch. We're also going to go live to FAIR, their big radio row. We have
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MTG, John Fredericks, and of course, the intrepid Ben Burquam from Real America's Voice. All next,
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is going to be on the second hour. He dropped the suit on the FBI. We also had John Solomon talk about
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a revolt among field agents for the FBI. They know the place is over-politicized. They're starting to
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complain about it, become whistleblowers. All of that in the 11 o'clock hour. Let me go back to
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Mark Fincham. Mark, your campaign is now picking up huge speed, momentum. You can tell that by the
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numbers, but we need to close the deal. Carrie Lake and Mark Fincham's campaign are so on fire
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from a grassroots basis, and I need everybody to go to precinctstrategy.com right now. Remember,
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the key thing is not your money. The key thing is put your shoulder to the wheel. You've got to
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volunteer. We need people in the counting rooms. You've got to go to your local RNC, go to your
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local county, sign up to be a poll worker, election judge, and also precinctstrategy.com. Get engaged
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today. It doesn't cost you any money. Fincham, you had an amazing event in Southern California. They
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tried to shut it down. They couldn't. Of course, the liberal progressive left media is so freaked out.
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One of the event coordinators, they went to her social media from years ago, and that's why I tell you
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you're winning. When you've got Flynn, Bannon, and Fincham, and they're not talking about us.
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They're talking about the event coordinators. That's winning, baby. Fincham, you've got fundraisers
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all over. You're all over the state nonstop. How do people get to your site to follow Fincham? Because
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here's what. Carrie Lake and Fincham are, you can tell, Blake Masters has closed the gap against
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Kelly's money because the state candidates, remember, there's no lieutenant governor in this situation.
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It's really Carrie Lake and Mark Fincham are driving the federal candidates, the congressmen,
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and the senators. So Fincham, you've got nothing but momentum, baby. Tell people how you're going to
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That's the way it ought to be, where it's coming from the states and bringing along the federal
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delegation. So we're just, we're scheduling events. If somebody wants to schedule a fundraiser,
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they can just drop me a note at support at votefincham.com. That's support at B-O-T-E-F-I-N-C-H-E-M.com.
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We've still got some slots open for both lunch hour and for evening events. If there's an open spot,
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we will get you scheduled. And these are, some of these are small events. We've got one later on
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today. I mean, this evening, that's like 12 people, but they're max donor.
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That's perfect. That's perfect. Also go to votefincham.com and click on the donate tab.
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We got to raise 500 K. Um, and I do believe Steve, you, you really hit something that's
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important. It's message over money. We're running an incredibly lean campaign. Same for Blake
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Masters. I mean, if you can call multi-million dollar campaigns lean, but the left is spending
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an inordinate amount of money. Uh, Adrian Pontes has got $4 million.
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You see this in Pennsylvania, Commonwealth of Pennsylvania. Are you going to let them buy your
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country? We know we got to outvote the money and we have to outvote the fraud, right? We can fight
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about all this different stuff in the evening of November 8th. What is most important is
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Mastriano wins. Kerry Lake wins. Mark Fincham wins. We didn't select Arizona and, uh, and
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Commonwealth of Pennsylvania randomly folks. Remember we've been fighting there since late
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in the evening of three November of 2020, particularly Arizona. It was at 11 20 PM Eastern
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daylight time that Fox news called it and everything the world changed since then, right? The way
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to clean that up and have a free and fair and transparent because Democrats are supporting
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Fincham independence is supporting Fincham just like Marchand in Nevada is to get a man of
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integrity in there. So we can have a free and fair election and then it is what it is. Free
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and fair election is what it is. Fincham one more time. Where do people go to find out more
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about your campaign? Votefincham.com. Uh, you can, if you want to know the schedule, just send
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us an email at support at votefincham.com and we'll be putting up a, uh, an event schedule,
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um, for different dates because of security reasons. We don't put the locations down.
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Um, I think it's smart and razoring signs and showing up protesting.
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I'm not going to do that, but we would love to try it. Listen, they, they, they're not,
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they don't want to debate. They want to shut stuff down with it. We're not going to tolerate
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that in Southern California. And I want to really give a compliment to everybody who put
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that on all the coordinators. It was an amazing event under intense pressure. And I got to tell
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you the intensity coming out of there, you're firing off the football Fincham. Your opponent
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is nothing but a source backed hack and you're going to run the tables on him. Uh, Mark Fincham,
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thank you very much, brother. Check back in when we get some new polling, everybody precinctstrategy.com
00:21:39.620
get there. You need to put your, if you put your shows, look, we've got the issue set.
00:21:46.440
We have to make sure we bring the electorate that supports that, uh, that issue set on crime
00:21:52.640
and inflation, uh, in the economy, all of it. You, we've got it. It's right there. This
00:21:58.260
is just execution, but the people are going to execute or you, you, you, you, you, you could
00:22:03.240
change the direction of this country. You just don't have to scream at the TV set anymore.
00:22:06.720
Put the channel changer down. We've got 49, 49 days. Let's go to, uh, Washington DC to fair,
00:22:14.140
uh, the Federation of American immigration reform. One of the best groups out there. They do an annual
00:22:19.360
radio road, John Fredericks. You've been doing this for years. Tell me why you're there. What's the
00:22:24.160
intensity and, and you've got, you've, you've, you've, you've got our, you've got our, the new
00:22:29.200
Mika, your co, our co-host here on a war room MTG. Well, number one, she's much more beautiful
00:22:40.040
than Mika. She's much more intelligent than Mika. She's much more strident than Mika. And
00:22:47.120
she actually makes a difference in the nation, which Mika doesn't because she's a total loser.
00:22:51.800
So let's just get that straight. Look, I've been coming here for 12 years. So we're a veteran
00:22:56.840
coming here. This is what my take is on first day, Steve. I've come here where there's optimism.
00:23:01.740
I've come here where there's concern. I've come here. There's a lot of different environments.
00:23:05.660
What the mood is after four hours being here today, it is a combination of anxiety and a sense of
00:23:14.100
urgency. I think people now know if we don't win this election on November 8th, if we don't get
00:23:20.520
30, 40, 50 seats in the house, three, four, five seat majority in the Senate, there's no country
00:23:26.680
because they've opened the borders. It's not bad policy. Their policy is working. It's a 10.
00:23:32.780
They got 6 million people in. They wanted five. They've exceeded by 20%. It's only September.
00:23:38.480
They don't care about the Fed and all. They don't care about anything. They don't care about anything
00:23:42.140
but power. So the entire Biden-Obama strategy of transforming America through getting illegals
00:23:51.680
and then dispersing them in certain districts to vote, it's a cynical, sick policy. But everybody
00:23:58.700
knows it's working. And we got 48 days to change it, Steve, or we don't have a country. That's been
00:24:04.880
the mood here so far. That's been the mood here so far. So MTG, give us your thoughts and
00:24:15.080
observations. Well, I have to say I was so happy listening to you interview Doug Mastriano and Mark
00:24:22.580
Fitchum. You know how much I love Carrie Lake and I'm so happy that you bring these candidates on
00:24:27.660
because these are the candidates that America is going to elect. And you know what, Steve? Everyone
00:24:33.060
knows that this nation is, we're about to have a complete revival because Americans know who our
00:24:40.760
identity is. We are a Christian nation. We are a country of nationalism. We care about our borders.
00:24:46.920
We care about our economy. We care about our children. And I have to tell you, though, for Arizona,
00:24:52.440
I have a message for Arizona. You guys have a major opportunity. And this is an opportunity, Steve,
00:24:58.240
you're going to understand exactly what I'm saying. Mitch McConnell is pulling his support and pulling
00:25:03.980
money from backing Blake Masters for Senate. And he's doing that because Blake Masters is not the
00:25:10.060
type of senator Mitch McConnell wants in Washington. But Arizona has an opportunity that only they can
00:25:16.740
pull off. If they elect Blake Masters and send him to the Senate here in Washington, D.C., they are going to
00:25:22.900
be cutting the head off the snake and defeating Mitch McConnell, the rhino that has controlled the
00:25:28.040
Senate for years now. This is the message that needs to be sent to Washington, Steve. Arizona needs
00:25:33.940
to win. Arizona needs to elect Blake Masters. They need to elect Carrie Lake, who will be the strongest
00:25:39.320
governor in the United States of America. And then we in Congress, we need to take control of the
00:25:44.460
House. We need to impeach Joe Biden. We need to empower governors to kick illegal aliens, not only out of
00:25:51.480
their states, but deport them out of the country. And we need to save our country, Steve. That's what
00:25:55.980
needs to happen. Let me ask you before I go back to John and give me a history of the affair. He's
00:26:00.680
been doing this for over a decade. Kevin McCarthy's coming out with this statement or, you know,
00:26:05.640
it's a mini contract for America. Does it do you believe it is really something that really gets to
00:26:11.800
the heart of what these key issues are? I mean, we're up 36 points on border security by NBC. We're up
00:26:17.200
23 by on crime, up 19 on immigration, up 19 of the economy, up 14 on controlling inflation,
00:26:24.260
up six on bringing the country together. Don't we have the issue set? Do we need some other unity
00:26:29.100
document or we just hammer, hammer, hammer on these topics, ma'am? Hammer, hammer on these topics, ma'am.
00:26:35.460
I don't think it's a unity document. I think what and I've been an advocate of McCarthy coming out
00:26:40.920
with something because people people are voting against what's going on, but they need to also vote
00:26:46.160
for something. They have to know specifically what they're voting for and what the Republicans
00:26:51.900
are going to do when they take power. The other reason I think it's critical is that we have a
00:26:57.680
blueprint to hold them accountable for, like Newt Gingrich, right? When he had his contract for
00:27:02.380
America, the media kept the estimate. But I disagree. John, I disagree. That was in a time it was very
00:27:08.900
unformed and the Republicans were small. Hey, I'll give you something. We're going to choke off
00:27:13.940
appropriations, no money, huge investigations, and impeach Biden. Is there anything else we need
00:27:19.300
to talk about? MTG, is there anything we need to talk about on a unity document besides those three
00:27:23.680
items? Well, I want you to know, Steve, commitment for America. I'm going with Kevin McCarthy to
00:27:30.740
Pittsburgh for that rollout. And the reason why I'm invested in going and being there for that is
00:27:35.400
because I'm adding the American people's voice to it. I'm going to be pushing what the base wants
00:27:39.740
in what the Republican agenda is. And, you know, I tell you something, we need to be a Republican
00:27:45.120
conference that can walk and chew gum at the same time. We need to have investigations on every
00:27:50.040
single committee in the House. And we need to hold these Democrats accountable and force action to
00:27:56.120
happen. But we also have to have an agenda that we give Republicans and give Americans something to
00:28:01.040
believe in. Because if we just do nothing but investigations with no accountability, and we don't
00:28:07.200
have a plan in place, they're not going to trust us in 2024. And you know, I can't let that happen.
00:28:12.300
We have to win in 22 and 24 to save America. You guys hang on. We're going back to fair to John
00:28:18.700
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today. Take action. War Room Pandemic with Stephen K. Bannon. The epidemic is a demon and we cannot let
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this demon hide. War Room Pandemic. Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon. Okay, welcome back. We got
00:30:04.160
some technical issues. I was trying to do a live pickup from FAIR and that's incredible. We got
00:30:08.160
Ben Burquam down there. We're going to try to get, we got just a amazing, amazing set of guests down
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there if we can get it fixed and we're going to go back. And Denver is working on it right now with
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our crack production team here. Of course, we had Philip Patrick. I want to go to Philip Patrick
00:30:21.060
of Birch Gold. Philip, big game day here in the Federal Reserve. There's all kind of talk going
00:30:28.900
around. It's going to be 75 basis points, 100. I saw somebody say 150. Obviously, for political
00:30:34.740
reasons, if they do a 1% increase, 100 basis points, the markets will melt down. So I think
00:30:43.820
Powell's got enough political sense. I mean, what he should do and what they're going to do is two
00:30:48.140
different things. Philip Packard, give us your assessment, sir.
00:30:52.100
Yeah, I think you're absolutely spot on. My feeling is it'll be 75 basis points. They could
00:30:58.000
be more aggressive, but the markets will suffer dramatically. But we're way behind the curve
00:31:03.880
in terms of interest rates, right? Even if they raise 75 basis points, it'll put us at 3%,
00:31:09.600
right? That's still considered the high end of expensive. Money is too easy today to counter
00:31:16.020
inflation. Let's not forget the long term average, 4.6%, which is considered neutral by the Federal
00:31:23.060
Reserve. At 3%, we're still half as high as the Taylor rule suggests we should be today, which suggests
00:31:30.060
we should be between 6% and 7%. But that's unlikely anytime soon. And you sort of hinted correctly as to
00:31:36.420
why, right? The Fed, I think, is happy to dismiss the Taylor rule today in favor of micromanaging
00:31:42.280
the economy. It's their attempt to engineer a soft landing, right? They want the markets to swoon
00:31:49.100
and come down slowly as opposed to crash. But the problem is by raising rates in such slow,
00:31:55.260
small steps, they virtually guaranteed that inflation is going to be here higher for longer.
00:31:59.800
It's going to be painful, right? And Powell's telling us that. He keeps telling the American
00:32:06.080
people to expect pain in combating inflation. And recently, and I think tellingly, he's been
00:32:12.660
name-dropping Paul Volcker, right? Let's not forget, we remember Volcker for successfully combating
00:32:18.940
inflation. What I think a lot of people forget is how painful it was in combating inflation,
00:32:24.900
right? We had unemployment above 10%. It was the worst banking crisis since the Great
00:32:30.900
Depression, but it eventually ended inflation. So we need some tough medicine today. The Fed
00:32:38.080
are attempting to inch their way forward to combat the issue, but we've got very, very tough times
00:32:47.020
I want to go back to the Volcker situation because we said on day one about Volcker and Reagan,
00:32:51.180
right? I think we're the first people to bring it up. I'm sure the comms department has been
00:32:56.280
giving our clips to him because we're hammering this guy. I want to make sure people understand
00:32:59.360
something. That's why I had Dave Brett on here, I think two or three, two months ago,
00:33:03.000
over two months ago, where we did where the Fed fund rates, where interest rates should really be
00:33:07.160
given this inflation. The story on Volcker, and correct me if I'm wrong, Philip, he was in the
00:33:11.500
White House. He was over at the Oval Office and Jimmy Carr's there and they're talking about the
00:33:15.080
economy and talking about it. And Volcker's just sitting there. He's not saying anything.
00:33:18.520
You know, they're independent, quote unquote. He hears it. He's listening to it. He went back to
00:33:24.700
the Federal Reserve and I think he raised rates that day 500 basis points. That's the day he said,
00:33:29.680
hey, I've heard enough. These people are clowns, right? You've got the same clown show now. If you
00:33:36.020
did real Fed funds rate, the real, if you really took the interest rates, Brad did it two months ago.
00:33:41.420
I think it was over seven. I think it'd be over eight, eight and a half today because the burning
00:33:46.200
dumpster fire is just getting worse. And here's the thing, ladies and gentlemen,
00:33:49.660
what are they talking about today? We're going to try to have Russ vote on tomorrow.
00:33:53.320
It's the continued resolution on they don't have an appropriations bill. And the reason is they don't
00:33:58.580
want to face reality. They don't want to cut back the spending. So the government runs out of money
00:34:02.400
or the ability to spend on 30 September at midnight. They're going to have one of these CRs. And the
00:34:07.200
thing is, we kick it into next year. We're wearing power. And you let the Democrats do it around
00:34:10.900
Christmas at lame duck. But the point still, their safe harbor, Philip, is they're going to go back
00:34:17.060
to 2020 or 2021. Last year's, the numbers were currently in baseline. Well, that was a $1.5
00:34:25.060
trillion unfunded discretionary spending. This means the Fed is going to have to continue to print money.
00:34:31.700
This is why they're in a jam. And the jam they don't want to talk to the American people about
00:34:36.240
is that the fiscal policy, the easy money monetary policy to date, and particularly the profit orgy of
00:34:43.520
spending has backed us into a corner. And there's no exit unless an adult steps up here and takes
00:34:49.980
charge and really gives the strong medicine we need. Philip Patrick of Birchgold, sir.
00:34:54.700
You are absolutely spot on. And sadly, we don't have those characters in office today, right? Volker was
00:35:02.360
a giant of a man. He was figuratively, and I found out not long ago, literally as well. The guy was
00:35:08.780
six foot seven. We need somebody like that, somebody who's willing to take tough decisions
00:35:14.040
and do what needs to be done regardless of the outcome, because it's the only way we can combat
00:35:20.000
the extent of the problems we have today. And who do we have instead? We've got Biden, right? I watched
00:35:27.000
his 60 minute interview. It was an absolute joke. I mean, the guy doesn't have a clue what's going on.
00:35:33.920
He was saying inflation was what was up when it was down. He was saying that, you know, we need to
00:35:40.380
continue to grow the economy. By the way, the Atlanta Fed came out just now. They predicted a
00:35:45.700
third quarter of negative GDP growth. So, oh, ho, ho, ho, ho. Did that just break this morning?
00:35:51.320
Because they took it down to under one percent. Ho, ho, don't bury the lead, baby. Now, first off,
00:35:57.880
I'm going to have you back on because maybe tomorrow or the next day, and we're going to
00:36:01.380
deconstruct. Biden's 60 minutes, and this gets you at the mainstream media and the business media.
00:36:07.760
It was psychobabble. He doesn't even have the concepts correct or the numbers correct. Remember,
00:36:12.480
he said, oh, inflation has been flat for a couple of hours. No, the rate of growth, baby. It's so sick.
00:36:18.880
Hold it. The Atlanta Fed, wait for it. We're breaking some news here on War Room.
00:36:22.900
The Atlanta Fed, which has been taking it down. Remember, the Atlanta Fed, all the feds got a
00:36:26.760
kind of different responsibilities or different strengths. The Atlanta Fed is the ones that
00:36:30.520
project out GDP. Under Trump, growth was what, three, three and a half percent? Here we go.
00:36:36.620
They predict, and this is what Biden was hanging his hat on, which still positive growth were coming
00:36:41.080
out, but it was like one and a half percent, one percent, 0.9 percent. And they come out this
00:36:45.480
morning and said negative growth before the Fed announces the increase to the interest rates.
00:36:56.700
Yeah, it was late. I think late yesterday, but it was their GDP now, their inflation predictor,
00:37:01.760
their GDP predictor said negative growth for Q3 as well. It's really, really, really, really tough.
00:37:09.620
Three quarters now under Biden. And the crazy thing is, the guy's coming out and telling the
00:37:14.060
American people that the economy is growing under his watch. I mean, it was, as you say,
00:37:19.580
psychobabble. But I think looking at that in more detail is a good idea. But hang on, hang on.
00:37:26.140
You've got now, so they can't run around and lie and hide about the recession. Now you've got three
00:37:31.400
quarters in a row. The depression. But here's the key point. Unless they continue to, they can
00:37:37.620
continue to have this massive deficit spending, which is this Keynesian on steroids, right? We
00:37:42.660
can't, we're never going to be able to, we're never going to be able to have, you're never going
00:37:48.180
to get control of this. The burning dumpster fire of inflation will continue. And this is the point.
00:37:55.360
You're going to have now the worst of both worlds. You're going to have increasing,
00:37:58.720
and they're going to do it, you know, a death by a thousand cuts. They're not going to give you that
00:38:03.280
big, what Volcker said is that, look, we can play around here. And I sat there and I listened to,
00:38:07.860
you know, Ham Jordan and Carter and all these losers, right? He walked out and gave a five.
00:38:13.740
Do you understand if somebody gave a 500 basis point increase in the rates of the world? No,
00:38:19.500
no, no, no, no. The world, first off, Philip Patrick and the Birch Gold guys, the phone line
00:38:24.560
would melt. It wouldn't blow up. It would melt because the whole world would melt down, right? So Volcker
00:38:31.200
heard it. And Volcker just went back and didn't tell anybody. He just had a press conference.
00:38:34.980
The other thing I love about Volcker, he would go to testify. This tells you about how old school
00:38:39.360
things were in the seventies. He would go testify on Capitol Hill and all the, all the pictures you
00:38:45.480
see, he's got those cheap cigars. He's got these small cigars. He's smoking a cigar and giving testimony
00:38:52.780
up to the finance committee and the banking committee. It's original gangster. Also as a different
00:38:58.120
country. Remember we were still virtually a creditor nation. We had a massive manufacturing base. We led
00:39:03.760
the world. We're an export nation. All the things that we don't have today, those, he did have the
00:39:09.680
tools or he had the things he could fall back on. Philip Patrick, what happens today after the 2.30
00:39:16.160
conference? We're going to have Cortez and I think David Sokolon. We're going to kind of get some folks
00:39:20.600
on here this afternoon. We're going to have Philip back on hopefully in the next couple of days. But what do you
00:39:24.840
anticipate basic market reaction that's going to be as he's not going to pop it? Looks like if he does
00:39:31.440
a hundred basis points, it's Katie bar the door because he's really setting a signal that the
00:39:35.740
internal numbers are looking at inflation or out of control. But where do you think this heads after
00:39:40.240
his announcement today, sir? Look, I think the markets will continue to see a sea of red. Look,
00:39:47.200
the markets, I think initially when the Fed came out and said, look, we're going to start raising rates.
00:39:51.680
I think that the general consensus was that the Fed would back down as the market started to come
00:39:57.540
down. Now I think the markets understand that the Fed are pretty firm in their decision to continue to
00:40:04.320
raise rates expeditiously. And now we're starting, like I said, to see a sea of red across the board.
00:40:10.480
So I think that could continue. The only savior could be if they're thinking, hey, you know,
00:40:16.520
at least they didn't do a full percent or above that. But this isn't good for the markets. And I
00:40:22.440
think we'll continue to see the air come out of the bubble. We'll continue to see the markets come
00:40:27.080
down. You have bond markets crashing and stock markets crashing. I want to talk about people's
00:40:31.920
personal lives. Mortgage rates, I think, hit a high since 2008 last night. Walk through credit card.
00:40:37.660
We had the biggest long term credit card debt ever. People are living off these credit cards.
00:40:41.320
But your life's about to change after this afternoon because this is not the last one.
00:40:45.780
Talk to us about interest rates on credit cards, on mortgages, on car loans, because the repos are
00:40:50.780
going to increase. You're getting thrown out of your apartment is going to increase. Talk to us about
00:40:54.240
their personal lives, sir. Look, it's going to be very tough. Like I said, we're nowhere near where we
00:41:00.100
need to be. 75 basis points today. They could do another two 75 basis points rate hikes, and we're going
00:41:07.260
to be back at the average rate. We've got to go well beyond that. Obviously, for individuals, those
00:41:13.700
with mortgages or getting or trying to buy a home, those that are carrying debt, this is very, very
00:41:19.140
painful. And particularly when you consider wages are not increasing anywhere near. Then you look at
00:41:25.240
things like food, medical costs skyrocketing. It's a very, very tough climate. Like I said, the 70s was
00:41:33.060
was tough. This looks to be the 70s on steroids. And people, people forget quite how tough that
00:41:39.440
climate was. So people need to hunker down now. They need to make smart decisions.
00:41:44.460
People forget how tough it was. I remember coming to school and I went in the Navy. All my buddies,
00:41:47.920
nobody could get jobs, right? But here's the thing. We were a different country. We had the
00:41:52.000
manufacturing base. We're essentially a creditor nation. We led the world on exports. A very
00:41:57.040
different America. Plus, you had two giants, not just physical giants, because both of them
00:42:01.720
were huge men, Ronald Reagan and Paul Volcker. Look around. You know, this is why we got to win
00:42:07.700
in November. You got to shut it down. We're going to shut it down. But I'm telling you,
00:42:10.560
I put up on Getter today, the spending fights that are just starting now in the CR. And we're
00:42:15.460
going to have hopefully Russ vote on tomorrow because he mentioned this last week about this
00:42:18.660
long CR that at least gets us to January where we're in control versus giving the Democrats
00:42:23.200
in a lame duck situation. I also want to get up if we can. Now more than ever,
00:42:28.160
what we're partnership with with Birch Gold. And one of the things is to try to teach people
00:42:33.340
about money, the politics of money, because we did this series called the end of the dollar
00:42:38.920
empire. First part was the politics of money. The second part is that really the fall of
00:42:43.100
the dollars, the prime reserve currency. And we need people to go to get up to this because
00:42:47.200
this is going to dominate. Politics of money is going to be virtually everything for a while.
00:42:53.000
And you're going to see this in these massive fights in the spending bill. These these the way
00:42:57.140
you choke down this government is through the appropriations process. And right now
00:43:00.660
it's a spending orgy. So we need everybody to go. It's totally free. Birchgold.com
00:43:05.120
a Ford slash Bannon. And you get both copies. You get the original the politics of money that
00:43:10.500
walks you through the history of the republic, particularly in the 19th century when this
00:43:14.600
was really what politics was about. And of course, after the Federal Reserve, we talk about the prime
00:43:19.500
reserve currency. That's what I said yesterday. When you look at the Queen's ceremony and that
00:43:24.260
military precision and everything about the Christian church, that was all from a time when
00:43:28.940
they were the prime reserve currency that shows you the faded glory. When you lose that, when the
00:43:33.300
pound was strong, when the pound was everything, they were at their height, just like the dollar.
00:43:37.520
Hey, Philip, just stay on one second. Short commercial break. Coming back with Philip Patrick
00:43:41.400
of Birchgold on its Fed day to day in the war room.
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going to keep changing because we're in a financial and economic crisis, as we said in the early days when we
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demand. That will trigger an economic crisis. That'll trigger a capital markets crisis. That
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will trigger, remember, a geopolitical crisis. Well, guess what, baby? You got it today over there
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in eastern Ukraine. So they're all heads are on fire on a border conflict halfway around the world,
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but they're not thinking about the invasion of the southern border. We are. We're going to go back
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to Farrah in a second. Philip Patrick, more than ever, I think people need, and this is what I'm saying,
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I don't tell you to go do things and buy things, but what we're trying to do is immerse you in
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information. The one thing you have to do, particularly, and one thing people got to think
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about, this credit card situation is about to blow up in your face. I understand people are barely
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making ends meet, but you got to think about particularly this long-term debt on the credit
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cards. These interest rates are going to eat you alive, okay? So I think more than ever, and by the way,
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so I want to go back, and you got to get the end of the dollar empire because this is the
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overall in the ether of what's going to drive so much in politics over the next decade, okay?
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This financial crisis. This is like the 1930s. So you got to do that. That's birchgold.com
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can start thinking about what they're going to do with their money because this thing's going to be a
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house on fire starting today. And in the future, this is not going to drive down inflation. Now
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you've got the double whammy of burning, a dumpster fire of inflation plus capital markets that both
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As you said correctly, birchgold.com slash Bannon. That's going to get not only the death of the
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of the reasons it's great, they've got all these advisors as you go talk and find out everything
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that's going on, particularly as you see your 401k getting crushed today. Philip Patrick,
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brother, we'll talk to you this afternoon after the Fed, the press conference thinks at 2.30. I'll
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talk to you then and maybe we'll get you back on a night or definitely tomorrow morning. Philip Patrick,
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I want to bring in Joe Croucher. Now, by the way, we're going to go back to John Ferguson,
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everybody at fair with Ben Burkman. We've got a ton of interviews set up, but Joe, I got to ask
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you about iTarget. I think now, particularly with inflation out of control, people have got to
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really husband the resources. It's only going to get worse starting this afternoon. You guys are
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comfortable with the genius thing of how people practice right with their arms, practice with
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their weapons to make sure they're proficient in them and it doesn't cost them a fortune, which
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unfortunately now the range just does because of ammo and range time and all that. Walk through
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iTarget. What do you guys have to offer and what do folks have to do?
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Hey, Steve. Thanks for having me on. Last month, I had the pleasure of introducing our new product,
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the iTarget Cube to you. And there are some questions from some customers about how there are two
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different products, what the differences are. So I'd like to just kind of explain how they're
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different, how they're the same and explain the benefits of using it. So first, both systems use a laser
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that goes into the chamber of your actual gun. So it has this little rubber pad on the back and the
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firing pin hits that and it shoots a laser. So there's no danger of actually a misfire with actual
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ammo or anything like that, since that actually goes where the bullet would go. So I have two systems
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set up here behind me, if you can see them. This is the original iTarget system here where your phone
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goes into this cradle and the phone's camera, looks at the target, and when the laser shoots it,
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So you see the bullet holes go exactly where the laser hit. And this is the iTarget cube system. So
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the regular iTarget system here, it tracks exactly where your shots hit. Now the cube system,
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these are different in that these allow you to set up cubes throughout your house. So it's multiple
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targets, not just one stationary target. You can set these anywhere where you have Wi-Fi. So they use
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a different app and I have it running on this phone. And so this app connects to Wi-Fi to the cube. So you
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can add up to 20 cubes and just have a crazy training scenarios in your own home. So on the app, you just
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press the button, it gives you a countdown and then you're able to shoot them. And it tells you exactly how
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fast you're able to shoot each of the cubes. It gives you the time so you can get more proficient and faster.
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But hang on for a second, but there's for two different skills. First off, they're 100% safe.
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You're not using live ammo. These are just lasers. And so this is cuts the cost of going to the range
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and particularly the ammo is getting out of control now. But they're two different skill sets. You can
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perfect your efficiency on one and the other is kind of a live, essentially as close to a live fire
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exercises you guys can get, correct? Yeah, basically with the cubes, you could do all sorts
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of crazy scenarios. We had one customer put one on a Roomba. He was driving around and he's shooting
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at it. So you could do all sorts of crazy things. You know, it's unlimited as far as like how many
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you could set them throughout your house and practice, you know, like, you know, where would someone
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