Episode 2222： When You Have To Pay For Freedom Of Speech; Florida's State Surgeon General Pushes Back Against The WAPO Accusations
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Stephen K. Bannon is joined by Darren Beattie to discuss the Alex Jones verdict against him and his supporters, and why they should be allowed to speak about tragedies like the Las Vegas shooting and the Sandy Hook Elementary School shooting.
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Well, the virus has now killed more than 100 people in China, and new cases have been confirmed
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around the world. So you don't want to frighten the American public. France and South Korea have
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also got evacuation plans. But you need to prepare for and assume. Broadly warning Americans to avoid
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all non-essential travel to China. That this is going to be a real serious problem. France,
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Australia, Canada, the U.S., Singapore, Cambodia, Vietnam, the list goes on. Health officials are
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investigating more than 100 possible cases in the U.S. Germany, a man has contracted the virus.
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The epidemic is a demon, and we cannot let this demon hide. Japan, where a bus driver contracted
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the virus. Coronavirus has killed more than 100 people there and infected more than 4,500.
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We have to prepare for the worst, always. Because if you don't, and the worst happens.
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War Room. Pandemic. Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.
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Okay, welcome. It's Wednesday, 12 October, Year of Our Lord, 2022. We had a big show planned
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and kind of organized. For the first part, we had to kind of mix things up. A jury just came back and
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awarded basically $1 billion damages against Alex Jones and Infowars. We're trying to get Alex up.
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We've got a cold open. We're trying to load. We're going to know when that's done in a moment.
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Also trying to get Alex Jones by phone to give us an update. But I want to go to Darren Beattie.
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Darren, you've been studying this a long time. What's your reaction to all this, sir?
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Well, it's remarkable and disturbing. We've been covering the case against Alex Jones for quite a
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while now. And you know how they say free speech isn't free. Well, I think we just learned what it
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costs. Free speech costs $1 billion. If you want to speak against the regime and any regime narrative,
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you got to pay up. You'll be destroyed. That's the message that this sends. And if you have video
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proof of what you claim the regime is doing, then they'll kill you like they're doing to Assange. So
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in that respect, Alex Jones is doing comparatively better. But it's really outrageous. It has an
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enormous filling effect. And not to get too much into the details of the case, but really any national
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tragedy. And of course, Sandy Hook was a great national tragedy. But any tragedy of national
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significance with political implication, Americans should be able to say what they want about it.
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And this idea that the regime can selectively exploit the victims' families in order to basically
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Is that what happened here? Because, and we're trying to, like I said, Alex is going to call
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in here a second. Is that what happened here? Or was this going after the families? Because a lot of
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people are going to sit there and go, hey, look, the kids got shot. They got murdered in cold blood.
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And what happened? So make sure, let's walk through the key elements of this so people can
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understand. Because it's not as simple and straightforward as I think, as I try to lay
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out. It's more complex than that. So walk me through the complexity.
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Absolutely. Well, it depends how much granularity you want to get into this. Because it's really
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competing interests of transparency and concern for victims' families. And what I think is the
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reasonable position is, once a tragedy reaches a level of national significance, and basically
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politicians are trying to pass through extremely significant legislation on the basis of a certain
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event, that American citizens should be allowed to basically question that event in any way that
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they deem fit. And the notion that you can use basically the feelings of grieving families to
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silence open discussion about tragedies, that is a very, very dangerous precedent to set.
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Was this an open discussion about a tragedy? Is that what you're arguing?
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Yes. I think that, Alex, you can say that he spoke irresponsibly. And I think even Alex Jones is the
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first to acknowledge that he didn't conduct himself, you know, if he could do it over again, he'd
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probably have more due diligence. But think about the precedent this set. Should people be
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prohibited from being allowed to speak, for instance, on the Las Vegas shooting, the biggest
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shooting in our nation's history that's still curiously unsolved? Should the regime be allowed to pick
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victims' families and have them say, you know what, we feel uncomfortable with people asking
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questions about this? Anything that's a national tragedy is going to have grieving families. And
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the question is, should those families be entitled, you know, through basically, I think they're being
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manipulated, should they be entitled to silence open discussion on things? There's another question
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here is Seth Rich. The family of Seth Rich started suing anyone who, you know, questions the circumstances
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of his death. So for things of national significance, is that the right precedent to say, basically,
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whenever there are any grieving families associated with any national event with profound political
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implications, that you better watch what you say about this. Otherwise, we will completely destroy
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you economically, if not worse. I think that's a very dangerous precedent to set. I don't think it
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conforms to the spirit of the First Amendment. And I think especially now, given what corrupt and
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illegitimate criminals run this country, we need to err on the side of people being able to speak
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openly about events, and even when it's not approved by the regime.
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We're going to start, we've got both Naomi Wolf, Mark Stein has now been notified, he's being
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investigated by the British government for having Naomi on his show on GB News, a couple of nights
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that he's been notified that we're going to have Julie Kelly on at the top at six, about the revelations
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in Schmitz, the AG of Missouri is now running for the Senate. He's got an explosive case, I guess,
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against Facebook, but some of the disclosures about the FBI field office out in Silicon Valley is
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incredibly disturbing about the manipulation of data. Where can, I can't read that. You're going
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to have to put that in English. Thank you. What is Revolver? Give us your analysis of this. Give us
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where people can go to get this. Well, Revolver hasn't responded to this recent verdict, but we did
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lay out a very detailed case responding to defamation suits against Alex Jones. And it has some details
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that I think will, frankly, be really disturbing to your audience regarding what's going on with
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this case, the persecution of Alex Jones. And again, this isn't saying that Alex Jones and his
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reporting was perfect or responsible or anything. This is about the larger precedent of saying that
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basically, there's a chilling effect now on the way people speak about national tragedies is very
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dangerous. And so go to revolver.news. We have a really white, hot and significant piece on the
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very top about the latest censorship predicate the regime is using to destroy us. But number three on
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the site, love him or hate him, the war against Alex Jones is a war against us all. That's something that
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every American needs to read right now to understand this. Hang on. I want to play. I want to play this
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clip. Just hang over a second. I'll play this clip with you here. Also, Alex Jones, he came forward
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very early on in this process and said, Hey, I made a mistake. It wasn't totally accurate. It also
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wasn't a big part of my broadcast or anything like that. I mean, he was pretty forthcoming.
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Wasn't he? I didn't follow in that level of detail, but he's pretty forthcoming about some of the
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things you just mentioned, correct? He was very forthcoming. And look, like, again, a lot of this
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stuff is a lot of memory hold events that the regime doesn't want you to see that's in this piece
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that revolver ran. People don't understand. Alex Jones was on Piers Morgan, the Piers Morgan show in a
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very famous exchange about gun control. Piers Morgan didn't think to bring up Sandy Hook. This issue of
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bringing up Sandy Hook in order to destroy Alex Jones is a post-Trump phenomenon. Alex Jones was not
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hated by the regime to this level prior to Trump. This is a recent thing. And so it just shows you the
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chronology of it shows you how extraordinarily cynical this move is to use Sandy Hook in order
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to silence someone who has been very disruptive to the regime and happens to be have been adjacent
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to Donald Trump in the critical election of 2016. Let's go ahead and play. If you hang on for a second,
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we're going to change our format up a little bit or the lineup. Let's go ahead and play the clip. I want
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Darren B to see this. It's going to be happening. Ain't no money.
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Our verdict as to damages in this case, we award damages to each plaintiff and against Alex Jones
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Number one, compensatory damages. Instructions. Build in both numbers for each plaintiff, then go to
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Now remember, I'm in bankruptcy. We got two years of appeals. The money you donate does not go to
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these people. It goes to fight this fraud and it goes to stabilize the company. They want to shut
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down. That's why the ambulance chasers did this, why they use these families. So saveinfowars.com.
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fight for you? I'm doing it and you see what they do. So you want to fight? That's fine. It's your
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decision. But that's where we are. That's the whacked out system of the left. Did we hit a billion?
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$1,000. $57 million, $20 million, $50 million, $80 million, $100 million, blah, blah, blah. You get
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a million. You get a hundred million. You get a 50 million. Okay, that's Alex Jones live when it
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happened. Darren Beattie, any assessment of Alex Jones? That was live. That was off his show from
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just a few minutes ago. Your assessment, sir? Well, indeed. This has punished Alex Jones at a
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certain point. You know, he's asking, you know, he's being treated as though he's responsible for
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this national tragedy. And again, I think to underscore just how cynical the regime's use
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of this national tragedy is to take out one of their most vocal and effective political opponents
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is just months after the Sandy Hook tragedy. Alex Jones went on CNN of all places. Imagine CNN
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platforming Alex Jones just months after Sandy Hook to talk about gun control. He sits there for a long
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time, like 40-minute exchange with Piers Morgan. And Sandy Hook was so much on the forefront of their
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minds in terms of Alex Jones' culpability that it wasn't mentioned once. So my point here is that
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this whole thing about Alex Jones is responsible for Sandy Hook and we need to use Sandy Hook to destroy
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him and make it such that he's not able to have a platform to communicate with anybody. This is a
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post-Trump phenomenon. It doesn't really have to do with Sandy Hook. It's cynical with respect to how it
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exploits the victims' families. And it's cynical with respect to the spirit of the First Amendment,
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which should entitle really all Americans to be able to speak openly about tragedies of national
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significance. It has a horrible chilling effect and precedent. And really, if the regime is able to
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get its way here, better not talk about the Las Vegas shooting, better not talk about any tragedy
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or question the regime's official narrative on any tragedy where they're grieving families because
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they might be exploited and used to shut you up and put you in bankruptcy.
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You had another huge story on Revolver today, but I don't want to merge these two. I want to talk
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about that tomorrow. So we'll set up my producer to talk to you. But I want to give the title of it
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in the link to it, because I want people to read it tonight. And Darren B is going to join us tomorrow.
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Just talk to us about what that story is that people should go to and read.
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Yep. So we've seen the evolution of censorship predicates to basically shut you up. First,
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they said racist and white supremacist. Then they said you're a disinformation spreader.
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This is about the latest censorship predicate, which is the darkest and most dangerous. And that is this
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pseudo fancy sounding term, stochastic terrorism. It basically means if you disagree with me,
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you're trying to incite violence against me. Therefore, I'm justified in using violence and
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any action against you to destroy you first. And this is the new favorite term of the left. And
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surprisingly enough, it's it describes exactly what the left's been doing to go after people on the
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right, including Supreme Court justices. And so we get into great detail about this new term that
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everyone should be aware of, because you're going to start hearing it a lot.
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Revolver is always ahead of the curve here. I want people we're going to push it out. I want people
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to read it tonight. Darren Beattie is going to join us tomorrow. Darren, thank you for changing your
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schedule to join us today. Appreciate it. Thank you.
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Our verdict has to damages. In this case, we award damages to each plaintiff and against Alex Jones
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Fill in both numbers for each plaintiff, then go to...
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Now, remember, I'm in bankruptcy. We got two years of appeals. The money you donate does not go to
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these people. It goes to fight this fraud, and it goes to stabilize the company. They want us shut down.
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That's why the ambulance chasers did this, why they used these families. So, saveinfowars.com.
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to fight for you? I'm doing it, and you see what they do. So, you want to fight? That's fine.
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It's your decision. But that's where we are. That's the whacked-out system of the left.
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Okay. Well, welcome back. We're going to be joined by Alex Jones by Phonel. Alex, for those
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that don't know the details and just know, hey, this was about, I don't know, insulting
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or going after the dead children of Sandy Hook. When you say you're going after the Goliaths
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coming after you, and now they've issued, I guess a jury granted a billion dollars, or
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close to a billion dollars. Just tell our audience, what is actually going on here, and
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Once Trump won, they made it a huge issue that I'd covered and questioned Sandy Hook.
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She had a show trial for five weeks, and I predicted a billion-dollar verdict.
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The plaintiff's lawyers asked for $8.25 billion, $8 billion, $250 billion, and it's ridiculous.
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I personally, in my bank account, have a million and a half dollars. My company has less than
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a million dollars in it, barely enough to pay payroll. I've never claimed I've got all
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this money. They literally got there and lied and told them I have hundreds of millions of
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dollars. And so it took them 20 minutes to read out the four different charges of over
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a billion dollars. The attorney's fees are $400 million they're claiming. And so this is a
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joke. It's like if I have three gallons of blood in my body, or two gallons, they want
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500 gallons. So it is a joke. So when I laughed about it during the live verdict, I wasn't
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laughing at the travesty of justice. I wasn't laughing at the tyranny. I was laughing at how
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ridiculous it is. If I've got $1,000 in the bank, and the court gives me a fine for a million
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dollars, I'm laughing because I don't have it. It's the same thing here. If I've got a million,
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$300,000 in my personal bank account, I've got a lake house at my regular house, I've got
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a couple of nice cars, you know, drive a Ford truck, drive a Telcat charger. You know,
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I got like a Rolex my dad gave me. I'm not into money. I'm not into stuff. Nothing that
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gets money. Money's great. It makes you free. But I'm literally total assets. I'm in bankruptcy
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right now. And I'm also having to post bond for the first Texas court case. We're about
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to file like next week that I'm worth less than about $5 million total. So they're out there
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when I'm worth less than $5 million trying to claim I'm worth billions of dollars. The jury
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believes it. And they sit there for over 20 minutes, actually about 30, to read out 15
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plaintiffs, including an FBI agent, who I never said his name, never showed a photo of
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him, didn't know who he was, so he sued me. And now the Texas Secretary of State, who's
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a Republican, is talking about suing me for questioning election fraud. I didn't even
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focus on Texas. I focused on the national deal. But they said, Jones released hell on
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us. And so now there's any government bureaucrat is saying they're going to sue anybody. If they
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ever get a threatening phone call or ever get a bad email, it's Steve Bannon's fault.
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It's Donald Trump's fault. It's Alex Jones' fault. So this is a new legal strategy the
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ambulance chasers are creating. And just like what I told people four years ago when I got
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deplatformed, I said, you'll be next, America. And we saw the president deplatformed three
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years later. So people say, how are you taking this so well? I mean, I'm just the first domino
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to fall. I'm worried about everybody else right now. So this is a big, big, big, big deal
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because I don't have the money. But what it signifies is they're coming after everybody
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Let me ask you, you gave a very famous, in fact, it dominated the news cycle for weeks
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and weeks and weeks, interview with Piers Morgan. I think, and Darren Beattie just brought
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up, I think it was a month or two, a couple of months after Sandy Hook happened. You were
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on with Piers Morgan, I thought for the entire hour. This is a huge fight you had with him on
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gun control and about the Second Amendment. Did he ever bring up Sandy Hook at the time?
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This all came about after Trump won, right? My point is they started coming after you after
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Yeah, they only came after me, well, it was right before. Hillary ran $30 million of ads
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with me questioning Sandy Hook at an eclipse to running as Trump saying, Jones is Trump's brain
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was actually Steve Bannon and a few others. I wish I was Trump's brain. And so they said,
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Jones is Trump's brain and Jones is questioning. And then once Trump won, they went thermonuclear
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and just hyped it 24-7 that I was a Sandy Hook man. And then they filed these lawsuits on
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me. Since then, got every bit of discovery, how our company works, who our vendors are,
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how we operate, to shut us down, and then defaulted us so we couldn't have a regular trial.
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So this is a show trial. This is a weaponization of the media. It's bipartisan. It's not just
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Democrats now. The Texas Secretary of State announced yesterday that I, quote, unleashed
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hell on them for threatening election workers. I didn't even cover the Texas election in 2020.
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I covered the national election. We know they almost stole Texas, but they were unable to.
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But I didn't really cover that election. I mean, I covered the national election. I wasn't
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even a leader in questioning the election. And so just like they've sued Fox News and everybody
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else, now they're saying, oh, public officials were threatened. Alex Jones caused it. So now
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we want to sue Alex Jones for questioning the election. So that's all this is, is they sue
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you in Democrat-controlled jurisdiction. And they have a kept jury. The judge finds you in
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default. You can't defend yourself. And they get a giant judgment. This is the weaponization.
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But like you said, when you were being perp-walked a month ago, this is the dying death agony,
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the dying death rattle of a collapsing establishment that's dying. And so I'm just
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blessed to be here. And I don't say that to put a cute face on it. No, I'm in the same position
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you're in. This is real. And I'm just blessed to be a real American that is such a threat to the
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establishment. They're having to literally destroy all checks and balances they're attempting to get
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me. Alex, are you going to be, people want to know, are you going to be on any other media
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tonight that people can plan for? Do you tend to do any, any more interviews tonight?
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Steve? I wanted to come home. My daughter got home from school.
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It's been time to give her my wife. I'm going back to InfoWars.com. There's a special Save
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InfoWars emergency broadcast that was already running for a week scheduled for tonight from
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8 a.m. to midnight. And so I'll be on 8 a.m. to midnight. Steve, you know, I know you're busy,
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but if you want to pop in, that'd be great. We have a live commercial free stream at InfoWars.com
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forward slash show. This is very, very historic. And this just shows when you're over the target,
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you're going to get the flack. And so it's not fun, but I expected it. And again, it's just the
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total weaponization of the judicial system. Okay. Once again, can you give that, I want all our
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viewers to have the option to do this. What time is this going to be and where they go?
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Yes, sir. I'm about to leave in the next 30 minutes, go back to the office. It's 30 minutes
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away. So in the next hour, I'll be back live at InfoWars.com forward slash show or just man.video
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or just InfoWars.com. Click on the live video feed, click on the audio feed. I'm going to be
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broadcasting an emergency broadcast, Save the First Amendment, Save America broadcast until midnight.
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Tonight, got Robert Barnes, a bunch of the lawyers coming on. But absolutely, we'll be covering all
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this, analyzing it, and breaking it all down. And if we don't hang together, we're all going to hang
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separate. So InfoWars.com forward slash show is where folks find the coordinates of liberty.
00:24:33.740
Alex Jones, thank you very much for joining us. Look forward to the broadcast tonight.
00:24:38.660
Thanks. Let me go. Tiffany, just I got I've got breaking news out of London. The government
00:24:44.300
looks one of the government agencies is investigating the great Mark Stein over GB News. Naomi Wolf was on
00:24:49.860
the other day about her broadcast about vaccines. But I want to go to Tiffany. Tiffany, you've got
00:24:54.000
breaking news on events going up in Michigan, a huge fight up there.
00:24:58.260
What's going on? So in Dearborn, Michigan, the other night, there was a school board meeting
00:25:03.760
and there were hundreds of parents there that wanted to have their voices heard. A lot of men,
00:25:08.220
and I want to bring that up because, you know, one of the things that many people have asked me about
00:25:12.200
Moms for Liberty is why not Dads for Liberty? And, you know, to be honest with you, moms have really
00:25:17.320
been fighting this fight. And so the other night in Dearborn, Michigan, we got to see a lot of dads out
00:25:22.140
and it was great to see dads. And they're talking about some of the books that have been in the
00:25:27.020
libraries. Well, that school board there decided that they had too many people in the room. They
00:25:32.860
cited some fire code concerns, shut down the meeting. But we're happy to see that the Dearborn,
00:25:37.580
Michigan school board has another meeting coming up on Thursday night, tomorrow night,
00:25:42.020
to hear the voices of parents. And I just want everyone to know that your voice as a parent is
00:25:48.820
powerful and important. And Michigan parents have a lot to worry about, Steve. I really want your
00:25:55.020
viewers to know about Proposition 3 that's on the ballot in Michigan and the dangers about that
00:26:00.040
because parents are very concerned in Michigan right now. What is Proposition 3? Can you give us
00:26:05.280
a minute on that? Sure. Yeah. Proposition 3 is a proposition that's been offered and it's really
00:26:11.940
Governor Whitmer's trying to sell it as protections for abortion rights. But that's not really the truth.
00:26:18.220
What Proposition 3 is really doing is giving children rights beyond their parents to make
00:26:26.100
decisions about puberty blockers, about gender affirming care. I say it like that because that's
00:26:33.600
what I believe it is. Giving children rights to be able to do things outside of the role and concern of
00:26:40.600
parents and the guidance of parents. And Proposition 3 is going to allow for that. So right now when you're
00:26:47.040
hearing so many things about gender transition in schools, cutting parents out of that decision
00:26:51.640
making process, that's on the ballot in Michigan. So you know we're having a town hall. This Friday
00:26:57.920
I'll be out giving parents a voice town hall. Gubernatorial candidate Tuner Dixon is going to be
00:27:03.560
there. We invited Governor Whitmer. We have not heard a word from her. We will have the Senate and
00:27:09.420
House Education Committee chairs as well as some Board of Education members. And we just found out that
00:27:14.280
Governor Doug Ducey is going to be joining us this year. School choice is on the ballot. There's a
00:27:20.720
ballot initiative. Over 500,000 community members in Michigan have decided that they want parents to
00:27:26.560
have more choice to direct the education of their children. That's really exciting. So we're excited
00:27:31.700
to hear from Governor Ducey about the educational savings account bill that was passed and signed into
00:27:37.000
law in Arizona and how Arizona is leading the way for America right now as far as school choice is
00:27:43.380
concerned. And Michigan parents very badly need that choice. Is this town hall going to be live
00:27:48.440
streamed? Can people put it in their calendar if they can't actually physically get there?
00:27:52.740
Yes, you can. You can go to momsforliberty.org backslash town hall. This event will be live
00:27:57.660
streamed. And we hope to have some of these dads from Dearborn speaking out. Dads, men,
00:28:03.560
we are Moms for Liberty. And we have chapters all over the country, over 245 chapters in 42 states,
00:28:10.180
but we need the men to stand with us. A lot of the pictures looks like the Muslim community in
00:28:14.680
Dearborn is up in arms of this. We're going to check that out and talk to people hopefully tomorrow
00:28:18.520
in Dearborn, Michigan. Tiffany, thank you very much. Honored to have you on here. Sure.
00:28:22.600
It's a question that has to be asked because we're now almost two years into these vaccines.
00:28:30.080
And we know they don't, at the very minimum, they were oversold and underperformed. But the question
00:28:36.840
is, when did these public health commissars know that not only they were... I have the answer.
00:28:42.560
I'm sorry to interrupt. No, I mean, you're talking, I'm one of the few people along with my 3,500
00:28:47.440
experts who have looked at the Pfizer documents. And I can tell you, they knew from a month after the
00:28:52.860
rollout that they did not work. So the reason I say mass murder with such calmness is that if,
00:28:58.120
if, and not only that, the FDA knew, because at the bottom of these documents, it says FDA
00:29:01.840
confidential. The FDA has custody of these 50,000 documents.
00:29:05.880
Those are crammed for time. We're going to do a lot more on this tomorrow. I want to bring in
00:29:08.900
Naomi Wolf because they've announced, like, one of the aspects of the British government has
00:29:12.800
announced that they're doing an investigation on the great Mark Stein in GB News. You know,
00:29:17.560
GB News for Nigel Farage. Mark Stein's got a big show over there. Naomi Wolf's,
00:29:22.500
your interview, I think it was a two-night interview. Can you give us any details,
00:29:26.360
Naomi, about what this whole investigation is about?
00:29:30.520
Yeah, it's a really sad day. I basically went on GB News, on Mark Stein's show,
00:29:36.180
to present exactly what I've been presenting here for six months, especially the material of the last
00:29:42.780
three months that, as you all know, is material produced by this team of 3,500 highly credentialed
00:29:49.700
scientific and medical experts, the War Room Daily Cloud Posse, the War Room Daily Cloud Pfizer
00:29:55.620
Documents Research Volunteers, specifically. And, you know, I was, I was, my source was their 40 reports
00:30:03.040
that, as you all know, detail massive amounts of reproductive harm. And this is not my opinion.
00:30:10.840
It's not interpretive. It's not subjective. This is primary source documentation.
00:30:15.560
This is Pfizer showing polyethylene glycol in the breast milk. This is Pfizer showing an 87%
00:30:22.820
miscarriage rate in one section of the Pfizer documents. This is Pfizer showing, this is
00:30:27.840
Andrology Journal showing a drop in sperm motility and sperm health. This is Pfizer's own documents.
00:30:36.480
Hang on, hang on. Has anybody come, and as you've been going around and doing media here in the United
00:30:41.620
States, has anybody come and question you on your interpretation of the data that you guys think
00:30:49.040
is presented in this material that Pfizer was forced to turn over by a federal court? Has any group come
00:30:56.660
to you and said your analysis is wrong, your methodology is wrong, you're just off here? Have you had any
00:31:05.860
So, in terms of virtually every report, no, except for one in which one of our volunteers made a mistake
00:31:15.520
But that was a, that was a math, that was a mathematical mistake, right? They miscalculated
00:31:19.180
something. It was, I don't know, 24% versus 50%. I remember that. Besides that, the mathematical error,
00:31:25.560
and it still was 24% or some high number. Has any other group come forward or any news group come
00:31:31.560
forward and challenge you on your interpretation of what's in the Pfizer documents?
00:31:37.540
No. And I, and that's the heart of the matter, right? So Ofcom, which is the government's regulatory
00:31:43.380
body empowered to regulate telecommunications and broadcasting in the UK, announced on their own
00:31:50.140
site and on Twitter that they were opening an investigation into Mark Stein on the basis of
00:31:55.540
the interview I gave with him in which literally everything I said was based on primary source
00:32:01.100
documentation in the Pfizer documents. And I guess what's so sad and tragic about this day and this
00:32:07.420
action is just what you highlighted, Steve, which is Ofcom isn't saying, is it true? Is, is she right?
00:32:15.360
Are babies dying? You know, as the BBC reported in Scotland, they've got twice the usual number of
00:32:21.100
babies. Are women's, you know, are women's breast milk sources being contaminated? Are women's placentas
00:32:28.080
being compromised? Is this true? Is she wrong? They're not asking that they're going after. I mean,
00:32:35.320
it's ridiculous Norwellian. They're going after Mark Stein and kind of by extension me, because this
00:32:39.800
is no fun. And now there's a nationwide and forgive me for over texting if I did, but it's scary and,
00:32:45.460
and, you know, disturbing. The Guardian, Independent IE, like all of these news sites now are like,
00:32:50.960
Yes, but does this, I'm going to go to Dr. Latipo, hang on, I'm going to go to Dr. Latipo for a second,
00:32:56.860
but hang on. But this does give you a venue to adjudicate this. This gives you, if they've,
00:33:03.160
if they could call, if you call their bluff and say, Hey, if you're going to do the investigation of
00:33:07.640
Mark Stein, let's get down to the details. I mean, this is a, this is the traditional put up or shut up
00:33:13.020
moment where you have the receipts. If they're going to sit there, they're going to investigate
00:33:16.860
you. So you now have an official venue, which I think is what everybody's looking for. This is
00:33:22.300
what we've been looking for in the election fraud. People want an official venue to adjudicate. This
00:33:27.260
would give you that, correct? Yeah, absolutely. And I've engaged a very good British lawyer to,
00:33:33.620
you know, send legal letters, which I probably shouldn't get ahead of, but yes, presumably we'll
00:33:39.800
have the opportunity there in discovery, just like we have the opportunity here with Twitter
00:33:45.480
to dive into this. But, but short term, you know, my heart is breaking because people of Britain
00:33:51.900
can't get the truth. The women of Britain can't get the truth. And what's worse, the journalists will
00:33:57.600
not worse, but just as bad. The journalists of Britain are being shown that if they bring the
00:34:01.660
truth to the people of Britain or to the women of Britain, or even just data for informed consent
00:34:06.520
or consideration, they, they're, they'll be annihilated. They'll have to, you know, spend
00:34:10.860
thousands of pounds. Hang over a second, because I think there's an opportunity with the Guardian
00:34:15.460
and the Independent too, but just hang over for one second, because I have Dr. Latipo. Dr. Latipo,
00:34:20.020
you put out a report that your office, and you've been trained, you have a PhD, I think in, in,
00:34:25.000
in this kind of analytics field from Harvard, besides your medical degree as a doctor, you have a PhD
00:34:32.480
also, you put out a report, I think it was Friday, a week ago. And, um, I mean, it was Friday.
00:34:38.740
The, the, the, um, they took you down to Twitter, then you got back up. Now the Washington Post has
00:34:43.740
come out with an article and saying, Hey, we've talked to a bunch of these experts and his
00:34:47.900
methodology is wrong. Now I read the article a couple of times. I couldn't really see where they
00:34:52.760
got to the details. So I'd like to give you an opportunity to respond to the, at least the headline
00:34:57.900
in the Washington Post. And correct me if I'm wrong, did they actually go through any details
00:35:02.900
where they said you actually, how you actually didn't calculate it correctly, sir?
00:35:09.260
Well, you know, that's, that's a really plausible outcome, Steve, that a bunch of trained
00:35:14.560
biostatisticians and epidemiologists using data that they've been using for years in Florida
00:35:20.260
somehow are unable to conduct a study using standard epidemiologic methods. So first, hello,
00:35:30.080
Naomi, it's great to see you. And Steve, it's great to see you too. And, you know, it's really
00:35:37.540
fascinating, Steve, if you look at the history of this pandemic, and I'll use myself as an example,
00:35:45.700
but I haven't been the only one. There've been other people. As early as March of 2020,
00:35:52.240
you know, I, I said and wrote publicly that the lockdowns were an ineffective strategy,
00:35:57.820
waste of time, costly, lots of uproar. No, we have to do this. Obviously that was correct.
00:36:05.560
Later on, I talked about the fact that the scientific studies did not support
00:36:10.940
mask being some panacea and really they didn't support any efficacy, any substantial efficacy.
00:36:17.480
When you look at the different studies, outrage, you know, how can he say that he should lose his
00:36:24.120
license and all that? Obviously that's been the case. When we made the policy recommendation against
00:36:31.180
the childhood vaccines, because it was very clear that there was no, there was no good evidence that
00:36:39.400
benefits exceeded risks. Again, lots of outrage and out and lots of complaining. But ultimately,
00:36:47.820
guess what? Very few parents are giving their kids this, these COVID-19 vaccines because they've
00:36:54.960
reached the same conclusion. So here we are again, and here's the next version. And the next version
00:37:01.060
is a study that we've used in, we performed in the Department of Health by trained biostatisticians
00:37:09.140
and epidemiologists, people who are committed to public health. They've looked at the Florida data
00:37:15.320
and they've found a number of different things. The thing that's gotten the most attention, and by the
00:37:21.960
way, not everything they found was unfavorable. Some things were favorable, right? There was a reduction
00:37:27.520
in all-cause mortality among older people who received one of the COVID-19 vaccines, which you might expect
00:37:33.560
since given the increased risk of death in that group from COVID-19. But they also found that there
00:37:39.980
was an increased risk of cardiac death in young men. And that's been the finding that people have been
00:37:48.660
pulling at anything and everything they can find to try to undermine the study, undermine its findings,
00:37:57.600
say it doesn't, it can possibly be true. Meanwhile, well, what else do we have? Is this the only study
00:38:05.220
that has shown that there is a signal of harm? No, it's not. Just a few weeks ago, a study was published
00:38:12.160
in the journal Vaccine that found a serious adverse event rate of around 1 in 800 with the COVID-19 mRNA
00:38:19.860
vaccines that exceeded their estimate for any benefits in terms of at least hospitalization, COVID-19
00:38:27.780
hospitalization prevention. Another study, look at an Israel data, found a correlation between these rollouts
00:38:36.420
of the COVID-19 vaccines and acute cardiovascular events in young people. Another study published in the
00:38:44.180
Journal of American, the Journal of the American, the Journal of the American Medical Association.
00:38:51.220
It looked at the, it looked at the incidence of different cardiovascular effects in people who
00:38:58.580
received the COVID-19 vaccines, the mRNA COVID-19 vaccines in Scandinavia. Well, if you look in the appendix of
00:39:06.740
that study, you'll find things like an increased risk of, of intracranial, intracerebral hemorrhage
00:39:15.060
by a factor of 100 and over 110%. And you think I'm making this up that you can look in the appendix and see this,
00:39:23.940
you'll find an increased risk of other cardiovascular complications anywhere from 10% to, to higher.
00:39:31.140
So this is, this is the same pattern where, for whatever reason, individuals are so attached to
00:39:40.740
what they believe the truth has to be, that data doesn't matter. But it does matter in Florida,
00:39:47.860
and it certainly matters to me, and nothing's going to change that.
00:39:51.460
Dr. Ladipo, before I let you go, did the Washington Post, have they come and asked you to go through
00:39:59.220
and, and, and walk through your study and, and your backup material and all your cross-references? Have
00:40:08.420
Yeah, as if they care about that. You know, their, their objective was a sort of an assassination of
00:40:14.820
the study and of me and of our conclusions. But we stand by our conclusions. I stand by that
00:40:20.660
conclusion. It's, it's the right, it's, it is the correct decision. And no, they're not interested
00:40:26.100
in the details. They're just interested in, in winning, you know, which, which it's a,
00:40:30.900
it's a zero sum game for them. Dr. Ladipo is from Harvard, but his book transcends fear. You've
00:40:36.340
got to get it because it hasn't all been, um, an easy path. Dr. Ladipo, uh, from the free state of
00:40:42.260
Florida, the surgeon general, uh, can we get your social media and how do people get the book and how they
00:40:46.740
track you? Oh, thanks so much, Steve. Well, Florida surgeon general was our Twitter and you
00:40:52.820
can go to Amazon or any of the other major book suppliers and, and find the book. And I want to
00:40:58.580
actually say one more thing real briefly, Steve, which is that, sure. You know, people have asked
00:41:02.820
me, Oh, Joe, there's so much people are saying so many negative things. How do you handle it? And all
00:41:08.900
this and all that. And I know Steve, the first time we talked, I talked about this, which is,
00:41:15.060
and it's one of the things I discuss in my book. And it's frankly, it's, it's actually the most
00:41:19.380
important message of my book, which is that I worked with a guy who helped me deal with my
00:41:26.180
lifetime accumulated stress, my trauma, other issues and emotions that, that were, that were
00:41:33.780
kind of controlling me and keeping me from being my fully expressed self. And when you're able to do
00:41:40.420
that kind of thing, and I was lucky, my wife found the guy. And unfortunately I was, I was able to
00:41:46.580
see him when you're able to do that kind of thing. You know, the, the possibilities are endless and it
00:41:52.820
includes not being disoriented by people making up lies on, on the mistakes. Dr. Ladipo, they're not
00:42:02.180
going to be able to shake you. You're solid as a rock. Trust me. Dr. Joseph Ladipo,
00:42:06.420
Honored to have you on here. Get the book, Transcend Fear. He's a warrior. Naomi Wolf's
00:42:12.660
another warrior and she's in the middle of it next in the war room.
00:42:15.860
It's a question that has to be asked because what we, we're now, uh, almost two years into these
00:42:29.260
vaccines and the point, and we know they don't at the very minimum, they were oversold and
00:42:34.420
underperformed. But the question is, let me go. This was from an interview, a two night interview
00:42:40.180
on GB news, this new news network, this launch had been very successful. Nigel Farage got this huge
00:42:45.020
show on there. Of course, the great Mark Stein has one. He had Naomi for two nights. Naomi,
00:42:49.980
you're an investigative journalist. You, I think you were a columnist for the Guardian.
00:42:54.220
Um, you're a very big name, uh, over in, in England. Have you ever seen anything like this?
00:42:59.740
The Office of Ofcom, which is an Orwellian name of the Office of Communication is now announced.
00:43:04.620
They're doing a formal investigation of Mark Stein show because of your interview. Uh, has this ever
00:43:11.340
happened to you before in any of the controversial investigations you've done in
00:43:14.700
the past? This is, this is a new low or a new, you know, level of government, um, overreach
00:43:22.780
and censorship. I mean, I was aware that the White House colluded with Twitter to suppress
00:43:28.060
my accurate reporting about, uh, menstrual harms over a year ago, but now it is super scary to have
00:43:33.740
another government agency in a whole other country suppress the truth. And I guess the thing that's
00:43:39.900
particularly disorienting is that they're, you know, as we were saying, they're not saying I was
00:43:45.580
wrong. They're saying the truth is harmful. They're saying it's harm, you know, that, that somehow I've
00:43:51.500
caused harm to the people of Britain. They got 411 complaints. And by the way, uh, Matthew Sweet,
00:43:57.580
who's a BBC, uh, hack who, and BBC took millions from the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation has solicited
00:44:05.660
complaints to Ofcom. You know, he's been after Mark Stein and after me, after me for a couple of
00:44:11.660
years now. Um, so this is a very highly orchestrated kind of takedown of the truth, um, that British
00:44:18.380
women deserve to have protecting British babies, you know, British men protecting their sperm, you
00:44:24.460
know, British women protecting their placentas, protecting their, their, their unborn babies.
00:44:28.620
Hey, it hasn't already been a huge story about some of you about Scotland. Tell me about Scotland.
00:44:33.580
Haven't they already announced this problem with the dead babies?
00:44:36.860
Yes. Uh, the BBC finally, uh, reported on the doubling of neonatal deaths in Scotland,
00:44:42.460
a highly vaccinated country, and the neonatal deaths followed the wave of vaccination. Um,
00:44:48.060
and, and the, the numbers were so shocking. Um, you know, a couple of dozen dead babies in a month,
00:44:54.060
you know, 200% rise. The BBC covered it, but they covered it in these ways, like the Ladapo article
00:45:00.140
in the Washington Post, they covered it in these ways as to tell the truth, but tell it slant,
00:45:04.860
as Emily Dickinson would say. They said, oh, there's been a spike in baby deaths, not a doubling
00:45:10.220
of baby deaths. And, you know, the fact is that we've been hammering and hammering, uh,
00:45:15.100
babies dying in Britain. Um, and we've been hammering accurately harms to the women of Britain
00:45:20.460
and the women of Western Europe. And the fact that there's a disproportionate number of adverse events
00:45:24.780
in the Pfizer documents for Britain, um, as well as for the United States. And I guess,
00:45:29.900
you know, it's, it's gotten through, but it's very disappointing to see a government agency tasked
00:45:35.340
with, again, not saying Naomi Wolf, show me your sources, but let's intimidate GB news. Let's
00:45:42.060
intimidate Naomi. Let's make her lawyer to shut her down. Oh, you're not, you're not going to
00:45:46.460
intimidate Naomi Wolf. We've got to bounce, but how do people, I want people to go to your site for
00:45:50.940
not just support, but also get this information on my getter site. I've got all these stories
00:45:55.180
breaking. I'm putting them up right now. Where do they go? Naomi, where they go on your social media,
00:45:59.020
Naomi. Uh, so Dr. Naomi, our Wolf on getter and, um, go to daily cloud.io click on that upper right
00:46:06.300
hand corner on campaigns. You can see, see for yourself. If I'm telling the truth, like, this is
00:46:10.780
what's so maddening. See if I'm telling the truth, if I'm representing the harms to women and babies
00:46:16.220
and to men accurately, that all of the citations are right there. We're not, we're on the largest
00:46:22.300
podcast in Britain for news and politics. I want everybody to get the bodies of others. You got to
00:46:28.460
see the arc of the story of Naomi Wolf about this because Naomi Wolf is going to be quite
00:46:32.780
controversial in the United Kingdom. Naomi Wolf, thank you. The bodies of others, particularly
00:46:37.740
everybody listening to the podcast in the UK. Naomi, look forward to having you back on, ma'am. Thanks.
00:46:41.820
Thank you so much, Steve. Thanks. Huge story out of the UK. Mark Stein and Naomi Wolf now
00:46:46.540
officially under investigation by the office of communication. I want to go to Ben Burquam. This
00:46:51.260
is a terrible, terrible story. Ben, uh, what, tell us where you are and what have you found, sir?
00:46:58.860
Hey, Steve, I want to show you first over here. We're in Brooks County, Texas. Uh, I'm at, uh, two
00:47:04.620
places. One is the impound yard. These are the vehicles that have been apprehended from smugglers.
00:47:09.420
You see a bunch of semis in the background there, uh, approximately 300 vehicles that have been
00:47:13.980
seized and they are constantly, uh, selling these vehicles just to get rid of them. They're overflowing
00:47:18.860
with vehicles. But beside me to my left, this is actually the morgue. They've, they've had to create
00:47:23.820
their own morgue. And these are, these are for all of the illegal aliens that have died out in the
00:47:27.660
desert, uh, trying to come across right now. They have about 30 bodies in there and they're almost at
00:47:32.700
capacity. They're going to have to build another one because they're overflowing from the number of
00:47:37.100
bodies that the open borders policies is sending. And this is just a one small county in Texas.
00:47:43.900
Who are these bodies at the morgue? Are these, uh, are these people that came across the border
00:47:48.780
that died in the desert? I mean, what, what happened? Why, why is there so many people,
00:47:52.380
why are there so many bodies in this morgue? Well, what the, the sad reality is, uh, a lot,
00:47:58.560
a lot of this hasn't been reported. This is across the entire border. This is what you see.
00:48:02.700
And we're actually starting to investigate this. We're talking about thousands of people dying out
00:48:06.980
here, especially now that we have, uh, Joe Biden's open border policies. These are mostly
00:48:10.940
people that die from exposure in the summertime. That's from dehydration and heat on the wintertime.
00:48:16.700
It, it freezes down here. And so they'll die of hypothermia. And this is happening every single day
00:48:21.820
as, as, uh, Sheriff Martinez reported this morning, over a hundred last year, they're already at 80 this
00:48:26.500
year. Uh, and they're, they're, uh, expecting to well surpass last year. And this is, this is
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everywhere. The open border policies kill not just American citizens, but the very people they're
00:48:37.140
pretending to care about. Ben, have the cameraman, the real American voice camera swing back to the
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yard. Look at those vehicles, look at the semis and the cars. This is just Brooke County. This is
00:48:47.360
what's been seized. This is just Brooks County. And this is only over the last couple months. Uh,
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they, they do auctions all the time out here. And so this is, it's constant out here and this is
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what they're seeing. We just heard of another smuggling vehicle that was apprehended every
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all day, every day. This is what these guys are dealing with. We'll get back to you tomorrow,
00:49:08.940
but tell people how they get to you and your new special. It's going to be this week in a real
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America's voice. Yeah. If you guys have missed any of our law and border shows, we are going to be
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doing a binge marathon this Saturday, starting at 4 PM Eastern, going from 4 to 9 PM. Uh, and then our
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next episode will be airing next Saturday. So this weekend you can get caught up on all of our law
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and border episodes again, 4 to 9 PM Eastern time on real America's voice news. Next Saturday,
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we'll be our new episode and you can find me frontline America.com of course, America's voice
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dot news and on all social media at Ben Burkwam. Ben, thank you so much. Uh, very sad report. Look
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forward to getting back to you tomorrow. Julie Kelly, RC Maxwell from a project Veritas has really
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