Bannon's War Room - Episode 2234： Elise Stefanik： Piercing The Veil; Bishop Athanasius Schneider： The Current Administration In The Vatican⧸The Fight For Life And Death

00:00:00.000 You know, Willie, you look at what the former president said about focusing on Republicans and how mean they are instead of and how shocking they are.

00:00:13.820 I mean, it's exactly what they want Democrats to do.

00:00:16.840 It's what they want media to do instead of the issues that most Americans really do care about.

00:00:23.240 And it doesn't work as well for the Democrats.

00:00:26.020 He also had quite a few things to say about wokeness, identity politics.

00:00:32.520 Now, he's talked about this before.

00:00:34.260 He's talked about it for quite some time.

00:00:36.760 But certainly it was a very clarifying interview, a clarifying voice.

00:00:44.780 Barack Obama giving Democrats some advice.

00:00:47.280 They should listen.

00:00:48.880 Yeah, it's interesting.

00:00:49.740 He steps in at certain times, doesn't he?

00:00:51.800 Not often, but every once in a while.

00:00:53.420 tries to sort of recalibrate Democrats and the message a little bit. He's right objectively,

00:00:59.060 if you look at polling, that it is the economy by a wide margin that's on people's minds. But

00:01:03.880 that's not to say that the other issues are not important. So it's that balance of you have to

00:01:09.140 pursue the preservation of democracy. You have to listen to the January 6th select committee.

00:01:13.900 You have to take seriously all these candidates who say we're not going to respect the outcomes

00:01:17.420 of elections in the future. You have to take seriously the concerns of women and families

00:01:21.740 across the country about the issue of abortion but as you say coming down the stretch here

00:01:26.120 voters have made clear that it is the economy it is inflation that's going to swing this election

00:01:30.980 are we going to fire nancy pelosi once and for all

00:01:33.600 are we going to fire kathy hochel and take back new york yes we are the american people are coming

00:01:41.660 this is your country we the people i will always stand up for our second amendment

00:01:45.320 constitutional rights god bless you and god bless the united states of america thank you for being

00:01:49.860 it's tuesday 18 october in the year of our lord 2022 we're three weeks away from the most important

00:02:00.620 midterm election since the early years of the civil war 1862 we've got a lot to go through

00:02:06.840 today and we've got a lot to go through in the next three weeks to actually have the opportunity

00:02:12.340 because it's all converging to destroy the democratic party as a national political

00:02:17.120 institution, and we're seeing it all over. Last night, Governor Kemp in Georgia, I think he's

00:02:21.520 eight or nine points ahead of Stacey Abrams' debate, and J.D. Vance taking it to Tim Ryan

00:02:27.340 in Ohio in these Senate races. We've got a lot to get to today. First thing, I want to bring in

00:02:31.680 Congressman Elise Stefanik. She's chair of the Republican Conference and a congressman from

00:02:37.280 New York State. And I want to go to talk about signal, not noise, and how this has all come

00:02:45.660 together because it just didn't happen when you have a morning joe we got a longer piece we'll

00:02:50.800 play at the beginning of the second hour when they are actually admitting now when barack obama

00:02:55.300 they're talking there about this interview barack obama gave about wokeness and about identity

00:02:59.380 politics about not focusing on the right things this just doesn't happen this is what strategy

00:03:04.520 is about this is about what's focused on certain things that at the time may not be totally clear

00:03:09.500 to everybody but you can see over the other side of the hill and you kind of see where things are

00:03:13.180 going one of the most important uh events in this election cycle was the removal of liz cheney

00:03:20.280 uh as conference chair not principally because of her virulent hatred for magra maga and president

00:03:28.700 trump personally it was she represented a neoliberal neocon worldview that is not where

00:03:37.100 this country is and particularly where voters in this country are and that is at least stefanik

00:03:43.560 replacing her and i want to go to a piece of evidence congressman stefanik thank you very

00:03:47.960 much the new york times yesterday and a lot of people are now talking about this gop gains uh

00:03:53.460 edge in poll as economy sways voters it was the front page story but once again the new york times

00:03:59.520 buries the lead uh the and i actually have highlighted here i want to bring up the chart

00:04:04.920 here in a second um the biggest shift came from women who identified as independent voters in

00:04:11.360 september they favored democrats by 14 points now independent women back republicans by 18 points

00:04:18.200 a striking swing given the polarization of the american electorate and how intensely democrats

00:04:24.200 have focused on that group specifically and on the threat republicans pose to abortion rights

00:04:31.040 congressman stefanik first off talk to us because i think you are one of the principal if not the

00:04:35.720 principal architect in the shift of these republic of independent women now to back republican

00:04:41.380 candidates and maga candidates of which could be a realignment in this country ma'am like 1932

00:04:47.540 uh your analysis and observations well first of all steve you're correct that isn't it amazing

00:04:54.140 that the mainstream media always seeks to bury these polls bury the lead uh the reality is this

00:04:59.760 is great news for America. It's great news for Republicans as we're working to earn back the

00:05:04.760 House. This is a 32 point swing among independent women who now overly overwhelmingly support

00:05:11.920 Republicans on the generic ballot this November. And we are just 21 days away. What did I do as

00:05:18.100 conference chair? Well, House Republicans work together to talk about issues that actually

00:05:22.160 matter to the American people actually matter to independent women. That's inflation, that's

00:05:26.580 economy, that's crime, that's security, that's the border. And we are winning on each of those

00:05:32.640 top issues. Also in that poll, in another poll, it lists out what are the most important issues.

00:05:38.460 37% of the American people rate inflation as the top issue. Number two is the economy and job

00:05:44.540 with 29%. So that is a huge, huge portion of the electorate whose top issue are economic related

00:05:52.540 issues, because we're facing a really unprecedented economic crisis, certainly for my generation,

00:05:57.100 who's never seen this rate of inflation. You have to go back to before I was born.

00:06:02.280 And immigration, 23% rate that as the most important issue. That's an issue that we win

00:06:08.040 on both when asked on immigration, but also on border security, crime and drugs. Here in New

00:06:13.280 York State, the crime crisis is one of the top two issues statewide. It's one of the reasons

00:06:18.180 that Lee Zeldin is going to win for governor. But this bodes very well because the American people,

00:06:24.760 they are have just seen the results of unified single party Democrat rule. And it's created

00:06:30.700 crisis after crisis. And they're looking for a new direction. House Republicans, and I've focused

00:06:35.740 on this as House Republican conference chair, is talking about these issues that matter. And we're

00:06:39.520 going to win on these issues. I want to go back to when you replaced Liz Cheney. I think it was in

00:06:44.820 the spring of 2021 and this is i think even before liz cheney got involved in the in in j6 and it

00:06:50.900 kind of went down that path of which led to her crushing defeat uh among uh her uh voters in uh

00:06:56.940 in wyoming later or in the spring um i actually guess it was in uh in uh august um well how did

00:07:04.960 you know at the time walk me through your your your thinking of how you were saying back a year

00:07:10.360 and a half ago, these are going to, because there's a lot of, you know, in the fog of war,

00:07:14.280 everything happens. How did you know it was going to be this issue set that was going to be prominent

00:07:19.140 in October in the run up to the 2022 midterm, ma'am? Well, the most important role that any

00:07:26.300 official, elected official does is making sure they listen to their constituents. And I spent

00:07:30.800 a lot of time listening to my constituents and listening to the American people. And it was

00:07:35.480 clear that inflation just continued was continuing to tick up at that time and was continuing to

00:07:42.100 really be a source of concern for families. It was being discussed at family dinner tables every

00:07:48.260 night. And Liz Cheney was just leaving those issues on the table. It was important for House

00:07:53.500 Republicans to hone in on the issues that matter to the American people and the crises that have

00:08:00.120 been created. And I'll never forget, Steve, when I had my first press conference as the House

00:08:04.660 republican conference chair uh after our weekly conference meeting i was ridiculed by a new york

00:08:10.240 times reporter uh saying the border crisis the inflation crisis the crime crisis and he said

00:08:15.480 well it's too many crises you don't have a message it's going to distract the american people

00:08:19.480 look how wrong the new york times was it's not the first time it's not the last time

00:08:23.900 and uh certainly the america hang on hang on hang on hang on you gotta give me that story again

00:08:30.300 what the new york times what the new york times writers say there was a new york times reporter

00:08:35.960 in the audience and they said well you say economy crisis you say the border crisis you say the crime

00:08:41.440 crisis this is too many crises for the american people for a message it's not going to resonate

00:08:45.840 and my answer was first thank you for pointing out all the crises that joe biden and house

00:08:50.840 democrats have created and the american people know there's multiple crises and it has been a

00:08:56.200 winning message since we are winning on each of those issues of top concern that the American

00:09:01.620 people have. I want to go to this concept of piercing the veil. People have to understand

00:09:07.360 when people think about these, these are national races, these midterms, and they're actually

00:09:12.720 referendums on the president's first couple of years of the two years. And that's why I say the

00:09:17.300 presidency now is kind of chopped into two-year cycles, not four-year cycles. New England,

00:09:23.860 let's add new york and maybe even new jersey it's kind of been a bastion right that they can depend

00:09:28.900 upon of really owning the the democrats both senate and particularly in the house they have

00:09:33.900 that they don't have to spend a lot of money they roll it gives them a great base and then people

00:09:37.900 particularly in new york boston they raise a ton of money right and go out throughout the country

00:09:42.340 and this is how they've been able to win you came up with this theory of piercing the veil and i

00:09:46.940 remember at the time people were talking to me said this is crazy this is going to be a waste

00:09:50.480 of effort this will never get there yet today in rhode island two we're up six to eight points

00:09:56.560 we're competitive in connecticut two and five we're competitive in both house seats in uh in

00:10:02.900 new hampshire in maine two so we pierced the veil of uh of massachusetts plus i think they're nine

00:10:09.460 and people are telling me maybe 14 or 15 to play in new york state walk me through your theory of

00:10:14.760 piercing the veil and when it looked like a long shot what did you see that other people didn't see

00:10:19.420 well what's unique about states that are traditionally blue states is they get a

00:10:25.280 double whammy of single-party democrat rule both in washington and in albany so when it looks when

00:10:30.540 you think about new york state for example which of course is where i'm from originally and where

00:10:35.060 i represent new york 21st congressional district we saw the impacts of horrific management from

00:10:41.100 the corrupt andrew cuomo the worst governor in america that's been continued by kathy hokal

00:10:45.660 We saw the crime crisis as a result of the failed bail reform movement, the defund the police movement, the slashing of the NYPD budget.

00:10:53.420 And since then, crime has skyrocketed.

00:10:55.520 Blue states really suffer from single party Democrat rule in a very, very damaging way that people are waking up.

00:11:04.420 And it's not just Republicans, obviously, who are looking for a new direction.

00:11:07.720 It's independents and registered Democrats as well.

00:11:10.880 I also think in New York State, Democrats, if you look at the congressional races, we can win back the majority just in New York State alone.

00:11:18.360 Albany Democrats had a supermajority.

00:11:20.060 They egregiously and unconstitutionally gerrymandered the congressional maps, and the people of New York won the court case to have fair lines.

00:11:27.560 So now we have fair lines, what would have been a very gerrymandered illegal map, and we could win the majority and pick up those seats just in New York alone.

00:11:35.560 You have three seats in the Hudson Valley that continue to trend in Republicans' direction.

00:11:39.800 The fact that the Democrats are having to spend millions for Sean Patrick Maloney's campaign, and yet Mike Lawler continues to pull ahead, he's going to win on Election Day.

00:11:50.340 We are all in, as well as our other Hudson Valley candidates, Colin Schmidt, who is taking on the newly elected Pelosi puppet, Pat Ryan, and Mark Molinar was going to win on Election Day this November.

00:12:02.580 We're going to do well on Long Island and pick up two seats there, George Santos and Anthony D'Esposito, and then broadening this out to New England and including New Jersey as well.

00:12:12.660 Maine, with Bruce Poliquin on the ballot, we think we're in a great position to win there.

00:12:17.580 New Hampshire, both seats look really good.

00:12:19.800 Caroline Leavitt, I'm most familiar with, and New Hampshire won.

00:12:22.400 She worked in my office previously.

00:12:23.860 I was proud to endorse her.

00:12:26.240 And she is giving Pappas a run for his money, and the enthusiasm is on her side.

00:12:31.160 The energy is on her side.

00:12:32.580 and supporting her is going to be really important.

00:12:35.260 New Jersey, you have Democrats in free fall

00:12:37.520 like Tom Malinowski, who had multiple illegal trades

00:12:42.680 profiting off of insider knowledge of Congress.

00:12:45.640 And he's gonna be held accountable from the voters.

00:12:47.620 And that's why we'll elect Tom Kane.

00:12:48.980 And then Connecticut, you again, have a blue state

00:12:51.740 where Democrats control everything.

00:12:54.140 The state is in free fall,

00:12:55.480 which is why you have George Logan in such a great position

00:12:58.780 and why we are making sure

00:13:00.800 that we're investing in that race.

00:13:02.000 I was just with him last week and there's tons of enthusiasm. And Rhode Island, Alan Fung is going to be a member of Congress. He is just out there working every single day. This is going to be the most diverse class of newly elected Republicans ever in our nation's history.

00:13:16.100 And we're going on offense in not only the states in the Northeast and New England, but specifically traditionally blue areas that Democrats have taken for granted, that they have not represented well, that they've caused crises in these communities.

00:13:31.460 And Republicans are going to bring leadership that these that their constituents deserve.

00:13:38.080 OK, we're going to take a break and we'll bring Elise back after the break.

00:13:41.540 But I just want to reset and make people understand something that you at least Stefanik is saying we could actually take the majority just on the wins we're going to get in New York State.

00:13:50.860 Think about that for a second. Who in February, March or April of 2021 would even think that that was anything but crazy talk in that the buried lead there is Sean Patrick Maloney is is the head of the DNCC.

00:14:04.680 They're pouring millions of dollars in to defend his seat, to defend his seat.

00:14:09.580 Also, you can pick up the majority just if you look at the pickups in New England, in New England.

00:14:15.860 Stunning turn of events.

00:14:17.280 We're on offense today in the war.

00:14:18.820 We're going to take a short commercial break.

00:14:20.480 We're going to return with the Republican Conference chair and the architect of a lot of this, Elise Stefanik from New York 21.

00:14:27.740 Be back in a moment.

00:14:34.160 the games you want to play bring it on and now we'll fight to the end just watch and see it's

00:14:41.340 all started everything's begun and you are over because we're taking down the ccp

00:14:50.760 you know what's never good when your nation's supposed authority on

00:15:03.960 economic policy completely misses the flashing red lights of impending inflation now treasury

00:15:10.960 secretary janet yellen has finally admitted quote there's been an unanticipated and large shocks to

00:15:16.800 the economy that have boosted energy and food prices and supply bottlenecks that affected our

00:15:21.980 economy badly that i didn't at the time fully understand end quote you know who understands

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00:16:28.840 The epidemic is a demon, and we cannot let this demon hide.

00:16:32.980 War Room. Pandemic. Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.

00:16:39.840 Okay, it's Tuesday, 18 October, in the year of our Lord, 2022. We are 21 days. That is three weeks from this evening.

00:16:46.800 Today will be voting day on the most important midterm election since 1862.

00:16:52.320 That came just, what, a month and a half after the battle of Antietam.

00:16:56.840 we're gonna get to all that later in the show i want to return to alice stefanik i i want to make

00:17:02.000 sure people understand the magnitude of a guy like sean patrick maloney he is the head strategist he

00:17:08.420 is the top guy in defending the house and they knew they had to defend the house or uh the joe

00:17:14.720 biden uh regime ends on the evening of november 8th so i want to make sure at least before we

00:17:20.420 leave this topic how important is a guy like that at the senior levels the chief fundraiser and the

00:17:26.500 strategist for holding the house he is under siege i just read a report they're pumping four

00:17:31.340 million dollars and we had eli crane on last night from arizona too tom o'halloran is out there in

00:17:36.660 arizona too saying hey i raised this money that money is my money you're not giving it to me and

00:17:42.520 eli crane is going to win this district if i don't get support and you're hearing this all over the

00:17:46.420 country you've basically besieged the leader of the dncc how did that happen man well first of all

00:17:54.220 be to just make sure the listeners understand the democrat congressional committee their

00:17:58.180 responsibility is to uh try to maintain their majority and the fact that the head this elected

00:18:04.020 leadership position is likely to lose his seat shows how much of a red tsunami this year is going

00:18:09.940 to be uh sean patrick maloney uh is well known as the most arrogant elected official in new york

00:18:16.660 state politics and boy is that saying a lot given all the players in new york state uh this guy

00:18:22.500 when these districts were redrawn, didn't even pick up the phone to call his Democrat colleagues

00:18:27.560 and moved into another district, kicking Mondaire Jones out to run in a different district. So he's

00:18:32.740 despised even among his own party. And it's one of many reasons why he is going to lose this

00:18:37.860 November. In addition, Sean Patrick Maloney, when he ran for his failed campaign for New York State

00:18:44.340 Attorney General, he said his number one priority was to support Democrats' failed bail reform,

00:18:51.240 which has led to the crime crisis, which is the top two issue in New York state and the top one

00:18:57.200 issue in parts of the state. It is the most effective issue we have when it comes to holding

00:19:03.220 Sean Patrick Maloney accountable for his out of touch policies, his rubber stamp for Joe Biden

00:19:08.980 and Nancy Pelosi, and just his sheer arrogance and entitlement. On top of that, what has Sean

00:19:14.800 Patrick Maloney been doing the last couple of weeks? He's been raising money in Paris, in London,

00:19:20.380 in European cities. That's where the Democrat majority is having to go to try to raise their

00:19:26.900 final funds as we push these last 21 days for the election. Republicans are outraising Democrats.

00:19:34.000 We're going to win that race. Mike Lawler is an exceptional candidate who was our Republican

00:19:38.120 nominee. Is that the picture I saw that they were sitting on the balcony with the Eiffel Tower in

00:19:44.400 the background? There's some beautiful apartment on the river right there in Paris. Was that

00:19:50.360 that it that's a fundraiser they're raising money they're raising money in paris to to put it into

00:19:55.200 you know this is not the first time i think that picture was the last time that sean patrick maloney

00:20:00.300 had fundraisers in paris and european cities sean patrick is known for doing european fundraisers

00:20:05.980 of american expats and uh it just shows out of touch uh the democrat leadership is and the

00:20:13.400 democrat party is with the needs of the american people and the needs of the constituents in the

00:20:18.840 Hudson Valley district. It's one of many reasons why Mike Lawler is going to win. He's an assemblyman

00:20:24.840 who flipped a district from Democrat to Republican that no one thought, the media thought Republicans

00:20:29.080 could not win. And Mike Lawler is going to do it again and make history this November when he

00:20:33.460 defeats Sean Patrick Maloney. When you've got the head of the DNCC that is looking at saving himself

00:20:39.920 and taking cash and put into his own race, talk to me about what that means for the rest of the

00:20:44.200 nation. How does that expand the battlefield, the map, so that you can now get aggressive

00:20:48.500 throughout the country? Your number one job, whether you're the chair of the NRCC, which is

00:20:54.760 the Republican Congressional Committee, or the DCCC, the Democrat Congressional Committee,

00:20:59.180 is to win or keep the majority. And Sean Pat Maloney is spending an inordinate amount of

00:21:05.800 resources and an inordinate amount of time and energy focused on holding his own seat that he's

00:21:11.480 going to lose. That means that all these other Democrats that are in free fall across the

00:21:16.240 country, they're either going to get cut from the budget and lose, or they're going to be short

00:21:21.380 changed and lose. And that's why you're seeing Democrats really cry out that they're in free

00:21:26.980 fall. There's no cavalry coming for them. The cavalry is coming for Republicans, both from

00:21:32.800 grassroots donors across the country. And if you want to support, you can get to give to

00:21:36.560 redwave2022.com. But the most important cavalry that's coming are the American people and the

00:21:42.320 voters who are going to put a stop to single-party Democrat rule, who are going to overwhelmingly

00:21:47.820 elect Republicans. I believe we're on pace to earn a historic majority. That would be picking

00:21:53.660 up 35 seats. Your call right now, as you see it, is a pickup of 35 seats would leave us almost a

00:22:00.660 historic high, right? It'd be, what, 247 seats? That would be almost historic. It would be the

00:22:06.380 largest majority it would be the large majority since the great depression steve and uh certainly

00:22:12.820 a huge opportunity for us to have uh lasting effective policies to solve our inflation

00:22:19.580 inflation crisis to secure the border etc so your call right now is 35c so your uh your great aide

00:22:26.340 to camp alex degrasse said a couple of weeks ago you're going to hit an inflection point

00:22:30.380 a couple of weeks out where you're going to see the democrats culling the herd you're going to

00:22:34.960 see them just go back to the core they have to to uh to defend do you think we're at this point

00:22:40.440 right now you think we're going to start seeing big names that start get cutting loose and the

00:22:44.320 democrats turn on themselves an internal civil war that they've needed to have this is what

00:22:49.020 obama was saying the other day we started off with that cold open for morning joe he's talking

00:22:52.820 about the wokeness he's talking about the identity politics it's kind of ironic for obama to be

00:22:57.140 talking about that how it hurt him when did the democrats start turning on themselves when can

00:23:01.220 we see this open civil war as they panic and have to really start throwing overboard some

00:23:06.560 prominent Democrats? Well, they already are turning on each other, Steve, and the mainstream

00:23:12.920 media loves to brush that under the rug. But the reality is, I mean, members of Congress, we know

00:23:18.600 the concerns. We know folks on the other side. And there are huge complaints about both Pelosi's

00:23:25.120 leadership and Sean Patrick Maloney, huge complaints about Joe Biden and his absolute

00:23:29.360 failure. And I think the Barack Obama interview is notable not just for his critiques, which are

00:23:36.240 very obvious of today's Democrat Party, but also the fact that he's trying to protect his political

00:23:41.960 identity because he knows Democrats are about to face a historic wipeout. And people are going to

00:23:48.260 try to save their own reputations politically as we work through this final bit. You know,

00:23:54.920 21 days is still quite some time before the election, but it's trending in our direction.

00:23:59.540 Things start to break when we get to mid-October, and they are breaking towards Republicans,

00:24:04.020 and I still believe the polls are underestimating both our enthusiasm and how much of a turnout

00:24:09.240 advantage we are going to have.

00:24:11.040 Also underestimating those who don't feel comfortable answering polls.

00:24:15.440 By the way, everybody has to, we still have to get to the ramparts.

00:24:18.440 Think, this is a long way from over.

00:24:20.160 Everybody, we want people volunteering.

00:24:21.860 You can go to all the different sites we put up.

00:24:23.380 You can go to the site of a lease and get more information.

00:24:27.200 Real quickly, Politico's lead story today is about how that the wunderkind class of 2018, all these superstars that the Democrats were hoping to basically get ready to run statewide are all under pressure right now.

00:24:41.580 You could lose two thirds of the class of 18.

00:24:43.940 This is how you destroy the Democratic Party as a national political institution.

00:24:47.880 But let me pivot to New York State.

00:24:49.980 The most underreported story in this cycle right now is the red wave coming in the great state of New York.

00:24:56.260 You just walked through the congressional seats. Talk to me about the governor's race, the attorney general, all of it,

00:25:02.200 because all I'm hearing right now is Lee Zeldin is on fire in closing Hochul very rapidly.

00:25:09.540 Lee Zeldin is absolutely on fire in terms of closing the gap. We have seen those numbers shift tremendously.

00:25:14.580 And again, Kathy Hochul, no one thought we could have a worse governor than Andrew Cuomo, but Kathy Hochul achieved that unbelievable achievement. She has been a worse governor. There are more corruption headlines every single day. She basically is using taxpayer dollars to give unethical, corrupt deals to her campaign donors to try to drag her over the finish line.

00:25:37.460 Meanwhile, you have crime erupting in New York state, including literally on Lee Zeldin's doorstep. And he is out there every single day bringing attention to issues, whether it's the congestion pricing, which is a tax on hardworking New York City and New York residents, or whether he's highlighting just the failed bail reform policies that have prioritized criminals over law abiding citizens.

00:25:58.120 But I did want to touch upon that article you referenced about the quote unquote 2018 wonder kids.

00:26:04.080 That was a wave election year for Democrats.

00:26:07.400 And I've always said that class of elected Democrats is ripe for a rude awakening and they are about to get one.

00:26:14.380 They ran in 2018, which was a blue year. And then, you know, they ran in a very nationalized election between Joe Biden and Donald Trump.

00:26:22.640 Those Democrats do not have individual voting records. They are in lockstep with Nancy Pelosi and Joe Biden, and they will finally be held accountable. I've run in red wave years and I've run in blue wave years, and we've won the district in both ways. This was a district that we flipped.

00:26:38.300 But I think most of those rising stars are going to get wiped out this election cycle because they haven't kept their promises to their voters.

00:26:44.800 In fact, they're not independent Democrats.

00:26:46.980 They are just rubber stamps for Nancy Pelosi, who's been in the majority since they were elected, and Joe Biden.

00:26:53.760 You're saying that political article, we're talking about this the second hour because I know you've got to bounce.

00:26:57.780 You're saying right now you're called shot, not just 35 seats.

00:27:00.820 You're saying that the great class of the Democrats, their bench, the one in 18, you think that's going to get wiped out?

00:27:08.300 I think that class, I mean, that's the class that built the majority. And those are the seats that we are going on offense. And we have a much bigger playing field than just those seats. So I think we're going to have clearly a much larger majority if we continue to do our job and voters really make sure that every vote matters and every vote turns out.

00:27:24.840 But those high profile candidates who were featured as the majority makers, they're about to lose their election because, again, they voted in lockstep with Nancy Pelosi.

00:27:36.380 They own this inflation crisis. They own this crime crisis. They own this border crisis. They own all of it.

00:27:42.220 They cause these crises and the American people are smart. They see through it.

00:27:46.780 And there's tons of infighting on the Democrat Party side.

00:27:49.700 Again, the mainstream media outlets that no one in America watches like Morning Mika and other shows never like to focus on the infighting among Democrats, but it's real and it's going to have implications on Election Day.

00:28:04.160 Elise, real quickly, give us your website.

00:28:06.800 How do people get to this?

00:28:10.460 RedWave2022.com

00:28:11.920 Elise Stefanik, conference chair.

00:28:15.380 Thank you for your insights.

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00:29:56.160 hide. War Room Pandemic. Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon. Okay, welcome back. We're very honored

00:30:06.100 to have a very special guest bishop anastasius schneider from kazakhstan bishop thank you so

00:30:12.980 much for uh joining us bishop we're known uh throughout the world as as the uh the platform

00:30:18.660 for the anti-communist party movement to take down the ccp uh everyone asks us uh cardinal zen

00:30:26.500 can you give us any update on cardinal zen and particularly why we don't see a lot coming out

00:30:32.260 of the Vatican and supported Cardinal Zen now that he's in this trial?

00:30:36.160 It is very tragic, the situation that this heroic cardinal, Chinese cardinal, who served

00:30:47.640 the church so faithfully all his life, and now he is almost over 90 years old, and always

00:30:57.400 spoke courageously defending the true freedom and the faith of those who were persecuted

00:31:09.400 by the ruling communist party in China, that he is now practically abandoned by the Holy See

00:31:19.640 and by the Pope.

00:31:22.100 This will go down in history, I think,

00:31:25.820 as a stain for the Holy See

00:31:30.240 to have committed this grievous omission

00:31:35.140 to support one of her most faithful

00:31:39.920 and heroic cardinals in our time.

00:31:44.540 You know, I've had the honor to spend a lot of time

00:31:47.900 or some time with Cardinal Zan and obviously spent a lot of time in China.

00:31:51.880 He is revered, not just by people in Hong Kong,

00:31:55.420 he's revered by the underground,

00:31:56.920 the true underground persecuted church in China as a hero.

00:32:01.940 And I think one of the issues or the issue he had,

00:32:04.640 even at the age of 90, to fly from Hong Kong to the Vatican

00:32:08.140 was about this secret treaty that the Vatican has signed

00:32:12.360 with the Chinese Communist Party that essentially lets the CCP,

00:32:15.420 which is not just an atheistic criminal organization, but a murderous, atheistic criminal organization

00:32:21.960 that specifically targets Catholics and Christians because they have a great fear of Christianity.

00:32:29.080 What is it, particularly coming from Kazakhstan and the Eurasian landmass,

00:32:33.600 why has the church signed a secret deal with a murderous, atheistic, transnational criminal organization

00:32:40.420 organization and refuses

00:32:42.140 to put that forward

00:32:44.740 so that people in the church

00:32:46.540 can review and study it?

00:32:47.640 I think this

00:32:49.480 act

00:32:52.320 with the Holy See did

00:32:53.540 signing such an agreement

00:32:55.600 with an obvious

00:32:57.980 government

00:33:01.860 obviously persecuting

00:33:04.220 Christians and even

00:33:05.980 committing

00:33:07.400 crimes against basic

00:33:09.680 human dignity in China, it is only our last step of an evolution which started 60 years ago

00:33:21.680 with the so-called Ostpolitik of the Vatican, which started with Pope John XXIII,

00:33:29.300 with his approach into the Soviet communist government and the other East European communist

00:33:36.960 governments. In those times, maybe they had good intentions to gain more

00:33:45.600 freedom for the church in the communist countries, but basically they abandoned

00:33:52.860 the Holy See with the Ostpolitik, the faithful Catholics, priests and bishops

00:33:58.180 who were suffering for the church, for Christ, and they were

00:34:04.140 And the prize of this Ostpolitik, and we saw this in the communist time,

00:34:12.300 where they were put in leadership in the church, bishops, people, weak clerics,

00:34:20.820 who were basically in some way collaborators with the ruling communist system

00:34:28.820 or completely weak persons who did not resist the atheism, the communism.

00:34:36.920 And so this is a continuation of these politics brought to its logical end.

00:34:45.920 To do such an agreement with a government, which is today China,

00:34:52.420 is so obviously, in a criminal way, persecutes Catholics and other Christians and tramples

00:35:03.380 the basic rights of human dignity, I think it is very grievous, and we have to regret

00:35:13.360 this, and the Holy See should not do this.

00:35:16.540 When you talk about weak, this is part of, as our due diligence and study showed us that

00:35:22.180 this was part of the McCarrick influence at the highest levels of the Vatican. Of course,

00:35:28.420 we've had tremendous problems with that McCarrick influence here in the American church.

00:35:32.620 Is that now being broomed out of the Vatican? I mean, what's the update? McCarrick was the

00:35:38.080 architect, really, of this relationship with China. And I hear that his influence led to a lot

00:35:45.260 of these things going on throughout the world, the globalization or the globalism of the current

00:35:52.000 pope came from a lot of the McCarrick influence. Is that being offset? Are people standing up

00:35:58.240 against that? It is, I think, globally spoken, the attitude of the Holy See and the current pope

00:36:07.360 is a sign of weakness. Why? Because they try to please the world. They try to please

00:36:18.760 those who are powerful, politically powerful.

00:36:23.200 And now China is a very politically powerful government

00:36:27.800 in the world today, a world power.

00:36:31.560 And so I think this is...

00:36:33.320 From Kazakhstan, you would know that.

00:36:35.420 Yes, I know this.

00:36:36.440 They are our neighbors.

00:36:38.920 And now we know the influence of China all over the world.

00:36:44.000 It's evident.

00:36:44.680 And now it seems that the Pope, Pope Francis, and the current administration in the Vatican

00:36:52.520 likes to please these powerful people in the world.

00:36:58.960 So this is, for me, the contrary, a weakness of the Vatican.

00:37:06.080 The contrary, the true Catholic attitude, which this should be as the successors of the Apostles,

00:37:14.680 to be courageous in front of the powerful of this world.

00:37:20.600 And these were the Christians in the first centuries, the popes of the first centuries.

00:37:25.680 They were courageous. They were not afraid of the Roman pagan emperors.

00:37:32.360 And so the other examples in history, we know the glorious, heroic attitude of popes

00:37:39.680 who resisted, even Christian emperors who were abusing their power and this is a glory for the

00:37:48.320 Catholic Church. But today this sometimes servile attitude of the Vatican administration towards

00:37:58.720 those who are powerful currently, it is a sign of weakness and is not a true attitude

00:38:07.280 which should be the successor of St. Peter and the other apostles.

00:38:13.300 Do you see that changing?

00:38:15.480 Do you see a young cadre of priests coming up,

00:38:18.040 a young cadre of bishops?

00:38:21.900 We understand how often your travel is restricted

00:38:25.280 or other people that have a voice.

00:38:26.820 Do you see that?

00:38:27.580 Do you see out there that that's changing right now?

00:38:29.940 Yes.

00:38:30.280 Thanks be to God, we can observe all over the world

00:38:33.740 a new movement amongst the young people, the young families, and the young seminarians,

00:38:42.500 young clergy, who are promoting the true tradition of the church,

00:38:51.340 the non-changing, constant faith all over the centuries and millennium,

00:38:57.600 the constant true liturgy, the so-called traditional Latin liturgy.

00:39:03.740 the true moral, spiritual life, the missionary zeal.

00:39:09.760 This all, what the Church did in 2,000 years, is now again, thanks be to God,

00:39:16.060 awakening in the young generation.

00:39:18.320 And this is a question of time, that these young clergy will become,

00:39:25.080 hopefully, also bishops, maybe cardinals,

00:39:27.500 And then the church, the Catholic church, will regain its worthy attitude and mission in midst of the world.

00:39:41.120 So let's talk about that, because you've challenged the hierarchy of the church.

00:39:46.240 When the Latin Mass was allowed back into the United States, my parents immediately joined another parish that was a Tridentine Rite parish.

00:39:55.380 And that actually is a young boy, actually been an altar boy in the pre-Vatican II rite.

00:40:03.760 You've actually come up and challenged.

00:40:06.620 You were considered, I think, one of the heads, if not the head of the traditionalist movement in the church.

00:40:11.120 You've challenged the church in particularly about almost going back to a syllabus of errors that you think that we have to go back to a pre-Vatican II.

00:40:20.340 the traditions of the church and around the mass.

00:40:27.300 Explain to our audience, particularly we have a lot of Catholics and

00:40:29.920 we also have a lot of Christians who are not Catholics. Explain to them why

00:40:33.160 are you fighting? Because they would say this is just going back in time, this is the stuff

00:40:37.940 that is from ancient times, we should just leave it. Why do you lead that

00:40:41.900 fight and why do you think that fight is so important? It's so important

00:40:45.780 because it's a fight for life and death.

00:40:50.340 because the faith of our ancestors, of the saints throughout the millennium, was given by God.

00:40:58.840 And therefore, we give our life for this faith.

00:41:03.340 We will not give our life for an ephemeral, passing, fleeting ideas, changes of some clergy of our day.

00:41:13.840 And so, and even the same is with the liturgy.

00:41:18.840 The Latin Mast, the so-called Latin Mast, is an expression of this unchanging faith of the Millenniums.

00:41:29.500 And this form of the liturgy was celebrated through the Millennium, not only decades, but by the saints whom we know, venerate.

00:41:40.780 and therefore

00:41:43.400 this was very

00:41:45.900 alive

00:41:47.860 it's not such

00:41:50.120 only tradition or a piece of

00:41:52.180 museum, no

00:41:53.480 the traditional liturgy was

00:41:55.500 filled with life

00:41:57.200 with reverence

00:41:58.920 with an expression of

00:42:01.800 the true faith

00:42:04.100 and proven

00:42:05.740 through centuries, through millennium

00:42:08.200 and these

00:42:09.680 greatest treasure of the church,

00:42:12.520 the faith and the traditional liturgy,

00:42:15.320 we have to hand

00:42:16.300 down to the next generation.

00:42:19.160 This is our task.

00:42:20.960 And therefore, the novelties

00:42:22.260 which were introduced after

00:42:24.200 the Second Vatican Council

00:42:25.660 undermine, in some way,

00:42:29.040 this treasure.

00:42:30.740 And therefore, we have to,

00:42:32.400 for the sake,

00:42:34.280 for love for the church,

00:42:37.140 for love for the

00:42:38.480 Future generations, we have to fight respectfully, of course, with dignity to hand over this precious treasure to the next generations, the Catholic, the integral, full Catholic faith and the integral, full Catholic liturgy to traditional Mass, as you mentioned.

00:43:02.740 You're saying what's been handed down generation to generation until Vatican II.

00:43:08.080 Okay, we're going to take a short commercial break.

00:43:09.800 We're in return with Bishop Snyder.

00:43:12.180 He is visiting us from Kazakhstan.

00:43:14.520 Be back in the war room in a moment.

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00:45:30.460 Welcome back. We're with one of the leaders of traditionalism throughout the world and also standing up against the power of criminal organizations like the Chinese Communist Party from his beloved home country of Kazakhstan.

00:45:43.560 on um bishop snyder you see something pretty provocative in the last segment you said that

00:45:49.900 vatican ii brought in a lot of novelties and so particularly not just for a catholic audience

00:45:54.620 because there's a lot of catholics that are not latin mass or traditional but also for our

00:45:59.020 broader christian and even secular audience vatican ii explain what it was why it was

00:46:05.020 important why it changed the church after 2 000 years and kind of a totally different and pretty

00:46:10.020 radical direction. Vatican II was a so-called ecumenical general council of

00:46:15.300 the Catholic Church, as there were already 20 councils before Vatican II

00:46:20.460 from the first century on. And this is a meeting of the Pope with the bishops to

00:46:27.720 address the most important issues of the life of the Catholic Church. All

00:46:34.800 All the past councils were convoked only for the aim to address some heresies to correct evident dangers in the life of the church.

00:46:48.880 All the other councils have been specifically come together about heresies and what to do with them.

00:46:53.860 Exactly. This was always the aim of a council, convoked to correct a specific crisis.

00:47:03.860 I mean, in faith, heresies, or schisms, or a crisis in discipline, immoralities, and so on.

00:47:13.600 And not just to meet and to speak.

00:47:16.840 And now, Vatican...

00:47:18.140 But when this came, the church was never more...

00:47:20.540 I mean, the United States, it was the church, I don't want to say powerful, but the church was growing.

00:47:26.200 It was robust.

00:47:27.740 There was no schism.

00:47:29.520 There was no crisis.

00:47:31.020 Why would they call a council if there was not a crisis in faith,

00:47:34.600 there was not a crisis actually in the church?

00:47:36.680 You would actually argue it was a golden age of Catholicism.

00:47:40.520 Yes, you are correct.

00:47:42.180 And this is the question.

00:47:44.240 Why should it be convoked a council and with almost no purpose only to speak,

00:47:51.300 but the Pope, John XXII, XXIII, who convoked this council,

00:47:58.880 that it should have a pastoral character simply to speak, to adapt the life of the Catholic Church

00:48:07.880 to the so-called needs of our time and to take into account the changes in the secular world.

00:48:16.880 But this is not the mission of the Church, to take into account the changes of the secular world.

00:48:25.880 Christ came

00:48:28.000 and he did not

00:48:29.340 take into account

00:48:31.720 those times

00:48:33.120 what went on in the Roman Empire

00:48:36.440 the wars and so on and the apostles

00:48:38.120 they simply preached the divine truth

00:48:40.220 directed to the

00:48:42.380 salvation of the

00:48:44.360 souls for the eternal life

00:48:46.080 this is the mission of the church

00:48:47.640 and not a primarily

00:48:50.380 temporal mission

00:48:51.620 and so

00:48:52.920 hadn't the church

00:48:55.320 from the 19th century kind of fought

00:48:57.440 against modernity? I mean

00:48:59.180 there was a huge movement, this understanding where

00:49:01.360 the modern world was going, said we have to

00:49:03.100 be a bulwark

00:49:05.120 against modernity. Exactly, bulwark

00:49:07.120 because since the French Revolution

00:49:09.520 there was spread

00:49:11.440 in the world, in the western

00:49:13.400 world, a movement

00:49:15.160 practically against Christ

00:49:17.460 against the church, against

00:49:19.640 the supernatural divine

00:49:21.520 revelation. To simply

00:49:24.140 a temptation to adapt

00:49:26.780 the Catholic Church to the spirit

00:49:29.860 of this world. This was called the

00:49:32.760 modernism in the end of the 19th century, which

00:49:35.680 infiltrated the life of the Catholic Church, not so much

00:49:38.780 but already. And then, thanks be to God,

00:49:41.800 God gave us Pope Pius X, the Holy Pope,

00:49:45.260 100 years ago, more than 100 years ago, who

00:49:47.880 intervened effectively and condemned and unmasked this infiltration by modernism in the

00:49:57.160 seminaries, in the theological faculties, and he wrote an encyclical and commanded to make an

00:50:04.760 anti-modernist oath. And so, but the Second Vatican Council tried to adapt in some way

00:50:15.800 the church

00:50:17.580 to the spirit of

00:50:19.220 or to make reconciliation

00:50:20.500 as they said

00:50:22.040 reconciliation with the spirit

00:50:25.200 of the modern world

00:50:26.700 are you essentially saying that

00:50:28.880 the Vatican

00:50:31.120 Council

00:50:31.620 the Vatican Council

00:50:33.160 looked at almost the church

00:50:36.740 teachings from time immemorial

00:50:38.800 as the heresy and they had to change

00:50:41.040 that

00:50:41.380 by bringing in the modern world

00:50:45.240 Yes, there was no, the contrary, I think that the Vatican too should have addressed the errors of the modern world,

00:50:56.580 concretely the naturalism, the rejection of the supernatural revelation of Christ.

00:51:04.320 This was the greatest error of the modern time.

00:51:07.480 And also the so-called anthropocentrism, which was a sign of the spirit of the modern world, which means that man puts himself on the place of God, the creator.

00:51:24.200 And now we are witnessing these, all the consequences of these.

00:51:27.940 And this was an error of Vatican II to have, in some way, a naive spirit to adapt.

00:51:37.280 Naive or dangerous?

00:51:39.180 Naive, also dangerous, I would say.

00:51:42.240 And now we have the consequences.

00:51:43.900 And therefore, they produce documents with which language oftentimes ambiguous.

00:51:50.320 And so you could interpret them in both sides.

00:51:53.460 And this is our crisis, basically, that followed the Council, the ambiguity.

00:52:02.580 We're going to take another commercial break.

00:52:04.300 I want to bring up two things.

00:52:05.800 Number one, the oath against modernity was dropped shortly after that we'll talk about.

00:52:10.860 also um it's how you get to the amazon synod to have the pantheism or the paganism of the

00:52:18.780 the anthem the amazon uh river actually was at the in rome what a couple of uh six months ago okay

00:52:25.980 we're gonna take a short commercial break bishop snyder can stay with us uh we're gonna have enjoy

00:52:32.380 his company here and we return with a little more controversy about the oath against modernity all

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Bannon's War Room - October 18, 2022

Episode 2234： Elise Stefanik： Piercing The Veil; Bishop Athanasius Schneider： The Current Administration In The Vatican⧸The Fight For Life And Death

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