Bannon's War Room - November 15, 2022


Episode 2303: The Announcement At Mar A Lago; The Fight For Speaker


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A massive day in Arizona, a massive day everywhere in Arizona as Kerry Lake fights on, and a massive announcement from Donald J. Trump on the future direction of the Republican House of Representatives and the future of the party.

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00:00:00.000 this is the primal scream of a dying regime pray for our enemies because we're going medieval on
00:00:11.420 these people here's not got a free shot all these networks lying about the people the people have
00:00:18.020 had a belly full of it i know you don't like hearing that i know you've tried to do everything
00:00:21.780 in the world to stop that but you're not going to stop it it's going to happen and where do people
00:00:25.360 like that go to share the big line mega media i wish in my soul i wish that any of these people
00:00:33.180 had a conscience ask yourself what is my task and what is my purpose if that answer is to save my
00:00:41.120 country this country will be saved war here's your host stephen k bannett
00:00:55.360 it is tuesday uh 15 november in the year of our lord 2022 a massive day everywhere in arizona
00:01:01.540 as kerry lake uh fights on particularly about how do you certify the uncertifiable we'll get to all
00:01:07.320 that uh throughout the next two hours we've got uh of course mar-a-lago an amazing huge massive
00:01:14.000 announcement today from donald j trump we got wall-to-wall coverage there we're going to go
00:01:18.140 back to ed henry we're going to go back to karen turk a real america's voice we've got a five-man
00:01:22.660 team real america's voices you've got a huge team cash patel liz heron and boris epstein all those
00:01:27.600 will be joining us uh throughout the next couple of hours but i want to start off with literally a a
00:01:33.680 i can't emphasize enough the political knife fights are going on right now about the direction
00:01:39.860 of the republican party in the direction of the trump movement i want to bring in russ vote
00:01:44.220 who's uh president trump's director of management and budget uh russ you've been in the middle of this
00:01:50.700 of all the uh the orgy of spending and the lame duck we got to get into and stopping this
00:01:54.840 appropriations bill and all this madness is about to try to overwhelm us but right now about the
00:02:00.740 direction uh with the called um with the called races last night i think we're down to brandon
00:02:07.880 williams in new york 22 to get to the 218 they're saying one more and i believe all the californians
00:02:14.120 have been called of course arizona uh six has been called uh oregon five got called we'll get into
00:02:20.040 more of the details of that andy biggs is going to join us at the bottom of the hour but russ uh
00:02:24.920 walk me through what is your beef about they had the yesterday they had the conference um you know
00:02:31.480 vote they had the conference a discussion about who should lead uh the republican house which we're
00:02:36.320 going to control maybe by two or three uh votes um or two or three members so what's your beef about
00:02:43.540 kevin mccarthy just taking it from here he did win the majority in the house uh he's been fighting a lot
00:02:49.840 of his picks uh won over the maga picks so so what's what's your what's your beef my beef is that
00:02:57.220 he has not won he did not produce a red wave he has not made a commitment to the american people with
00:03:02.840 an america first agenda he continues to fight some of the basic things that we need on a policy level
00:03:08.760 whether that's big tech reform uh or whether that is using the leverage points that we have to go after
00:03:14.780 the biden regime whether that's oversight whether that's using the impeachment tools so on and on
00:03:20.880 there's a there's a paradigm problem with kevin mccarthy and i would also look back and say you
00:03:26.080 know he spent millions going after mary miller in illinois who was an incumbent of his own party he
00:03:32.100 didn't have to weigh in on that so look you know regardless of of how he has endured that's really the
00:03:39.520 only thing i can say nice guy worked with him in the administration uh he's been there a long time
00:03:44.440 but i've seen him in off in in action behind closed doors and i've seen the decisions that he has made
00:03:51.860 and they will not save this country and we have a particular moment in time where a handful of
00:03:59.040 republicans the democrats are not a threat a handful of republicans can ensure that we have a paradigm
00:04:05.720 shifting speaker that will allow us to actually have an agenda and move forward and use every
00:04:12.580 opportunity that we have against biden we can't have a speaker that's afraid of government shutdowns
00:04:18.160 we can't have a speaker that's afraid of using the debt limit to fix our fiscal house and get it in order
00:04:23.380 we can't have a speaker that's afraid of using the impeachment or to protect the j6 prisoners because
00:04:29.540 somehow you're worried about the notion of being part as an insurrectionist on and on and on
00:04:35.160 he has not shown up and that's why house freedom caucus i is fighting and i'm thankful that they
00:04:40.960 are doing grassroots is behind them i want to make a link let's take the personalities out let's take
00:04:48.140 the andy biggs and the matt gates and the mtgs and the mccarthy's because personalities come obviously
00:04:53.860 personalities human agency divine providence works to do individuals from donald trump to to to many
00:05:00.640 many others i want to talk about with the paradigm and the structural issues and i want to connect
00:05:05.820 what is happening for our audience what is happening in mar-a-lago today and kind of what trump stands
00:05:12.580 for as a populist nationalist against the administrative state in the deep state and what you say we have a
00:05:19.080 chance for a paradigm shift uh up against the cartel on capitol hill walk through the structural issues and
00:05:25.100 why whether it was mccarthy or anybody because he's known as a as a nice guy right uh we call him the
00:05:32.820 pledge chairman here um it's not about the personality you have a fundamental structural issue here that has
00:05:41.140 to be resolved in today's launch in mar-a-lago is one aspect of that what happens on capitol hill is
00:05:47.320 another aspect and we if we finally the democrats that we're up against they are perfectly aligned
00:05:52.320 they're perfectly aligned from their donors to their consultants to the politicians to to to the
00:05:59.020 recruiting to the ngos the not-for-profits all the way up to the nancy pelosis and one of the reasons
00:06:04.580 uh they continue to quite frankly get more of their things through than what we want is because that
00:06:11.940 alignment walk me through the paradigm and how you believe that this issue about the speaker is how
00:06:17.240 you start to lock in that fundamental alignment sir yeah two main points number one ever since
00:06:24.020 donald trump left office the establishment has been trying to go back towards the definition of
00:06:31.100 conservatism that they had prior to 2016 and that was an america first definition they're dying for it
00:06:37.300 they're just absolutely dying for it and he represents that he may be a been on good on terms with
00:06:43.380 president trump at different times but he represents that old version of conservatism and not a
00:06:48.880 particularly strident version of it either i might add so there's that and i think that's an important
00:06:53.800 aspect of are we actually going to tackle the problems that are facing this country given our
00:06:58.960 country's late hour are we going to deal with the drugs in this country are we going to deal with
00:07:03.940 china are we going to deal with the reality of crime of borders are we going to do every single
00:07:10.040 thing we can't are we going to continue to fund ukraine are we going to be everywhere in the
00:07:14.420 world so that's one part of it the second part of it is what has happened over a hundred years it's not
00:07:20.020 just an administrative state the administrative state has kind of gone over the borders of the lines
00:07:27.340 of separation within the constitution it's both an executive and a congressional merging so that when
00:07:34.520 you talk about the president of the united states he often does not have the power that to grab hold
00:07:42.120 of the administrative state without really breaking some china and if you you see it in the congress why
00:07:48.020 is the congress rank and file so dissatisfied the congressional leadership and committee barons so
00:07:53.640 satisfied they're in power they're rank and file or not it's because behind the the de jure
00:08:00.680 a levers of power who sits in these seats the votes on the floor behind all of that is a cartel that is
00:08:08.260 working based on on narratives on paradigms assumptions viewpoints the way we've always done
00:08:15.560 it before and unless you actually can see a different way of looking at the world which i think the america
00:08:21.880 first movement is about and then bust through that cartel and know your leverage points you're never going
00:08:28.380 to have success you're never going to be able to use the opportunities that the founders gave us to
00:08:32.880 save the country it's all there in the constitution but we have 50 years of not being willing to
00:08:38.640 pick the right policies or pick the right leverage points because our paradigms are wrong that's what i mean by
00:08:45.240 it what and when you say the hour is late uh we've got and you say the democrats aren't going to stay in your
00:08:53.880 way or they're weak i think you said earlier what do you mean by that the hour is late and but
00:08:58.100 you're not going to get opposition on this from democrats you're going to have two nights let's
00:09:03.280 say 220 221 222 you'll have a handful of seats uh majority so walk us through the hour is late and
00:09:10.660 maybe i misinterpreted what you said that the democrats are not going to be there to stop it
00:09:15.680 uh what what do you mean what do you mean the hour is late what has to happen and what's going
00:09:20.580 to be the blockage on this sure when i talk about the hour late i'm referring to the country
00:09:26.460 moment we don't have business as usual time forever we have to have uh game changers now's
00:09:33.740 the time for wartime speakers not cartel speakers that's what i mean by that as it pertains to the
00:09:39.740 democrats not but uh being a problem i'm referring specifically to the argument by my friend um and
00:09:46.800 an ally normally marjorie taylor green that somehow the democrats are going to conspire with moderate
00:09:52.820 republicans on the floor that's not possible it will not happen there are fundamental reasons for
00:09:57.940 that and so i'm suggesting that there is the main vote will be on the floor they will oppose
00:10:04.000 the republican person and that will give house conservatives a leverage point that by that time
00:10:10.800 they will be able to use but i think that i think kevin mccarthy's speakership will be on the rocks
00:10:15.940 far in advance of that as soon as today with the house conservatives putting forward their
00:10:20.680 candidacy uh and and making that a holding pattern so that mccarthy knows he doesn't have the vote
00:10:27.020 walk us through how you think this process plays out there's obviously the leadership vote today
00:10:35.160 the the speakership votes january 3rd just give our audience your best guess of how what they should
00:10:40.620 be looking for today to be ahead of the curve yeah i expect today there this is the day that they
00:10:46.760 actually have the vote uh in the cartel this is behind closed doors this is the republican party
00:10:52.660 um in in these kind of the locker room making their determination there's going to be nomination
00:10:58.580 speeches uh and i expect you know house conservatives to put forward andy biggs for that and it will be
00:11:05.840 a case against uh kevin mccarthy and why this is something that should warrant a change in direction
00:11:14.420 uh a pursuit of how uh the house should work on behalf of the american people that gave it a majority
00:11:21.580 uh i think there'll be a post they will post a big number there in terms of of no votes that is not
00:11:27.620 just the three of bob good of matt gates and chip roy i think it will be much larger than that we won't
00:11:34.160 know their names potentially unless they tell us but i think it'll be a big grump group that will be
00:11:39.400 surprising to the mainstream media and then i think you'll go into tomorrow and some of the in the week
00:11:45.780 ahead and you'll get a sense mccarthy will be trying to figure out can i pull some of those folks away
00:11:52.060 with rule changes and i think we need to talk about rules changes rules changes can be good uh but it's
00:11:58.640 important that we not just get the same rules that we had prior to nancy pelosi that we don't want to
00:12:04.200 have to fight this every single week we want if we're going to have a game changer parliamentary
00:12:08.560 style partnership where chip roy is in charge of the rules committee that's one thing but just
00:12:15.200 restoring some of the things like the motion to vacate to the rules in my mind is not an appropriate
00:12:20.360 uh end game but then mccarthy will figure out okay can i pull any of them back it'll be important
00:12:26.660 for the grassroots to support their members throughout this and then when he realizes he doesn't
00:12:32.360 have the votes he'll make indications and at that time it will free the playing field for other people
00:12:38.940 to step forward and and be able to be a unifying candidate that could be a jim jordan that could
00:12:44.680 be a lee zeldin uh someone that we are currently not thinking about right now there are a lot of
00:12:49.500 opportunities along those lines so you think the headline is you think the the vote today is going
00:12:57.220 to surprise people by the number of people that don't vote for him for for leadership even inside
00:13:02.620 the car the cartel or the caucus correct the conference is that what you're is that what
00:13:07.060 you're telling us yeah real quickly if i real quickly if i let you go i'm going to bounce back
00:13:12.620 to mar-a-lago but tell me real quickly that the orgy is about to start the orgy of called the orgy
00:13:17.700 of malfeasance the debt ceiling this appropriations bill how important is this to fight this
00:13:22.840 particular appropriations and kick it into the next year rust vote it's vital i mean we don't have
00:13:29.120 endless limit endless leverage points uh against the biden administration we just don't uh we have
00:13:35.380 appropriations and we have oversight and oversight doesn't really work without appropriations and we
00:13:42.080 have debt limit and so both of those leverage points are on the agenda in this last remaining months
00:13:48.820 of this year and it's important that republicans preserve those going forward i expect them to try
00:13:55.280 to preserve one i don't think that there will be a mass cave on the debt limit although i think the
00:14:00.680 democrats will attempt to do it but that appropriations is very very uh is is very much
00:14:07.220 in danger because you have a lot of retiring senators that want to get their pork projects that want to
00:14:13.640 put the the remaining dick shelby uh community college on there throughout alabama i mean it's 0.64
00:14:19.760 it's danger but i think the discussion that we're having on leadership house and senate and there's a
00:14:25.020 discussion in the senate as well will put pressure on senate appropriators not to be able to cut a full
00:14:30.680 year deal uh real quickly russ how do people get to your social media particularly to follow you on
00:14:37.280 this uh and incredible debate at russ vote and all the channels and america renewing.com
00:14:44.120 russ vote thank you very much appreciate it okay we have a massive fight for house speaker
00:14:51.780 we have the carry lake situation in arizona and of course we've got donald j trump's big
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00:16:22.340 savings with gold okay welcome back you're in the war room of tuesday 15 november the year of
00:16:35.200 or 2022 a week ago uh on a not a freezing but a chilly uh building overlooking the capital a nation's
00:16:42.620 capital historic uh midterm elections i was honored uh to be one of the co-hosts with ed henry
00:16:48.040 and karen turk of the real america voice war room coverage that went really for a couple days we're
00:16:53.200 still guys we're still trying to figure out the house as we talked about those seats but today's
00:16:57.600 another historic day one week later in mar-a-lago his uh his winter home donald j trump will make a
00:17:03.280 quote-unquote big announcement we have ed henry and karen turk from real america's voice uh karen let
00:17:10.660 start with you frame this for us how what's going on this is a big announcement everybody figures that
00:17:17.100 this is the start of president trump's uh third try from the white house to do the three-peat we know
00:17:23.100 he won in 16 of course in the war room we know he won in 20 right uh so how big a deal is this today
00:17:29.200 and what's the enthusiasm down there
00:17:30.860 uh this is huge as donald trump would say it's a bigly announcement we have a lot of people on the
00:17:38.400 ground here in palm beach with us that are anxiously awaiting this announcement we did
00:17:41.940 american sunrise live on the ground here with real american voices and we had a huge crowd
00:17:47.040 and they were all giving their input about what they think is going to happen tonight and for the
00:17:51.200 most part everybody seems to think that he's going to announce that he's running for president
00:17:54.960 a lot of speculation that he may even say that he's going to establish a third party
00:17:59.820 but there's a lot of things that party could be the america first party a lot of speculation from
00:18:05.480 our audience and in our getter chat this morning about what's to come but i think people also want
00:18:10.140 him to be careful about that steve as you know because they want to keep this party united they
00:18:14.380 want ron desantis to wait his turn 2028 they they're anticipating these patriots donald trump going out
00:18:21.160 and giving some guidance about what his plans are and when you talk about setting the scene uh he's the
00:18:26.260 one that most of the folks who came up and talked to us many of them there was a big family from idaho
00:18:30.380 for example they said they wanted to come and pray with us they were in downtown west palm on vacation
00:18:34.880 basically uh and they just found us with our with the real america's voice bus and they said
00:18:38.920 we want trump nobody else he's the man we don't care who he picks his vp we want desantis to wait
00:18:43.820 in the wings they want trump he's the one and only for them that's i suspect for a lot of america first
00:18:48.700 people out there but let me set the scene just got a text before we came on from a friend who drove over
00:18:53.320 the southern bridge that connects which is right across from the island that goes right over to mar-a-lago
00:18:57.720 you've been there before steve he said there's police there already lined up there's patriots lined up
00:19:02.980 with trump flags mega flags 2020 flags 2016 flags 2024 flags so i think they're putting the band
00:19:10.180 back together is my point and we're told because we're going to have you on tonight we're doing a
00:19:14.140 live special at 7 p.m eastern and we hope you join us with others uh we were told we got to get there
00:19:19.380 they're going to let us in at 4 p.m eastern we're told get there 2 33 o'clock because there's thousands
00:19:24.620 of media outlets steve from all around the world as you can imagine who want to be there for the trump
00:19:29.880 announcement so they want to bash him in the mainstream media here or around the world but
00:19:33.800 they all want to be there they want to be part of the action this is in some ways bigger than a trump
00:19:37.480 rally today i mean we're almost you know 10 plus hours outside of this announcement and people are
00:19:42.260 lining up on the southern boulevard bridge this is pretty epic it's history today we're making history
00:19:46.720 no this is history i want to by the way inside the ballroom i'm told that the riser guys and they're in
00:19:55.200 the big ballroom and they've gone you know they're they're longitudinal i guess as i would say it's
00:20:00.200 two it's almost half half of the space is had to take up by the riser there's so much media and
00:20:06.160 international media they've never seen anything like it ed i i gotta ask you you know uh club for
00:20:11.660 growth and and people have uh tried to uh tamp this down and the enthusiasm of the trump base for
00:20:18.860 this a lot of polls out in the last 24 hours that shows desantis well ahead of donald trump in
00:20:25.100 battleground states now listen those polls have lots of problems with them right there's suppression
00:20:28.620 polls but what we understand that the not just the republican establishment the major republican
00:20:35.320 donors i'm talking ken griffin uh you know um uh steve schwartzman right a paul singer the guys
00:20:43.220 have always been the anti-american the globalists neoliberal neocons uh that backed this from wall street
00:20:48.440 into the corporatists and you see this playing out in this fight for the speaker give us set it give
00:20:53.000 me some set that is is is this dampening the spirits is this going to have any impact sir
00:20:59.200 my sense from covering politics a long time is it's firing up the trump base more every time i'm on
00:21:08.300 american sunrise and i even mention ron desantis we have people in the audience say don't don't get
00:21:12.880 behind us and i'm like i'm not cheerleading for desantis a couple of weeks ago all of you fine
00:21:17.560 patriots thought he was the greatest governor god ever ever ever ever and you will not be
00:21:22.160 surprised steve to learn that people are telling me on getter and to social uh what do they say
00:21:27.540 desantis is a rhino come on folks he's not a rhino he may be a lot of things but not a rhino another
00:21:32.660 person yesterday told me he's a traitor come on folks but here i want to get to your question
00:21:36.520 it's an emotional time though people are angry they're angry and i think so two things one i think
00:21:41.680 it can actually blow up on desantis and be better for trump because you got his people saying whoa
00:21:46.380 whoa wait a second trump's the man and number two you get ken griffin and some of these money guys
00:21:51.960 schwartzman and others behind desantis that's what's hurting desantis right now he's got a great record as
00:21:57.660 governor he just had a big big re-election victory by 19 points but once you get these globalists behind
00:22:04.200 them with the money it's seen as not a pro-desantis movement in my opinion steve it's seen as a stop
00:22:10.040 trump movement and that can actually help trump because we're like wait a second desantis is a
00:22:14.460 good guy good governor but he's got these these globalists behind him it might blow up in his face
00:22:19.260 and that's what people are saying that he sold out even though he was their favorite governor just
00:22:23.180 weeks ago all of a sudden now he's a sellout
00:22:25.260 hang on i want to i want to drill down on that for a second ed you've been around a long time
00:22:32.420 talk about how insidious this is you've seen this when you're at fox and other places
00:22:36.140 when the big money comes and they see a vessel they look at ron desantis has been a great governor i
00:22:41.060 know ron a good guy uh been a fabulous governor just a fabulous governor set a tone but when the
00:22:46.860 big money sees their number one thing is not promoting ron desantis not promoting america first
00:22:52.000 of mega policies not going after disney not going after the big pharma none of the stuff that ron
00:22:57.580 desantis is doing every day that's not their interest they see governor desantis as a
00:23:02.340 vessel that they can stop donald j trump in the america first am i correct in that sir
00:23:07.000 100 look i'm not going to trash what my point earlier was i'm not trashing desantis i i think
00:23:14.700 people are being hypocritical in the movement when they bash him and call him a traitor or a rhino
00:23:19.140 that's silliness but the bigger point is yes donald trump is the leader of this party he's the one
00:23:25.600 who had the most endorsement he's the one who made sure that tudor dixon was the nominee she didn't
00:23:29.660 win in the end and there's going to be a question about that is desantis or yunkin or somebody better
00:23:35.500 suited for a general election i'm not saying they are folks don't hear me wrong but there'll be a
00:23:39.860 debate and i think donald trump can benefit from a debate uh you've seen this before you said i've
00:23:44.660 been around you've been around uh sometimes a vigorous primary makes the leader donald trump even
00:23:50.420 stronger it makes people say i want to flirt with desantis but you know what he's not ready for prime
00:23:55.140 time just yet trump is the man and the griffins and the hedge fund guys putting the money when you
00:24:00.900 mentioned fox everybody knows there's big whispers fox is pushing two people desantis and yunkin they
00:24:07.580 see them as maga light they'll keep their audience happy with a little bit of a maga bone here or there
00:24:14.160 but they don't want trump and the attacks the insults so that's going to be the fight in the republican
00:24:19.280 because yeah that's for sure it's a market global go ahead sorry about that yeah karen karen here's
00:24:26.700 what i want people particularly our audience the audience grows every day particularly people are
00:24:30.680 not familiar with mar-a-lago and the geograph explain again the scale of this like we're
00:24:35.220 gonna cut to jane zirkle at the bridge explain exactly where you guys are and how big this is
00:24:40.160 today as an event this is big this is huge i mean we're about two miles away and we had a huge
00:24:48.540 crowd here just this morning but this bridge is not a very big bridge but it's somewhere where
00:24:53.160 people go to show their support for donald trump and we've seen hundreds of people there for flag
00:24:58.240 wavings when they know that donald trump is in town and this is going to be something that's going to be
00:25:02.440 bigger and and just more on a scale that we haven't seen before i would expect that there are going to
00:25:07.380 be thousands of people probably you know marching along that one mile corridor from west palm to palm beach
00:25:14.780 now they may not be able to get over the bridge into palm beach but it's still close enough where
00:25:19.140 that perspective real quick when you say where we're so we're in west palm we're like two or three
00:25:23.000 miles from mar-a-lago and what happens is donald trump golfs his club his golf club is not at mar-a-lago
00:25:28.440 it's in west palm and so every day when he goes over the golf course have lunch play golf or whatever
00:25:32.780 he goes back from west palm here on a couple miles over to southern boulevard to cross this very bridge
00:25:39.140 we're talking about and not every day but a lot of days there are patriots out there waving flag
00:25:43.260 because they know his routine he acknowledges that he waves and he'll wave to him he'll slow the suv down
00:25:48.220 and so this is going to be a big night because when you're talking about that media rise or where
00:25:52.560 will be and others we're actually going to have a hard time broadcasting because i bet we're going
00:25:56.540 to be wedged in there's going to be the bbc and the french tv uh the german tv as well as fox and
00:26:02.880 everyone else because they want to be there and they all want to trash donald trump but they know he's
00:26:07.660 the biggest story in america force he still is the biggest story in the world okay real quickly
00:26:13.120 got about 30 seconds i'll start with karen given that you guys have covered virtually every 0.99
00:26:17.560 meaningful rally over the last couple of years do you think today is smart do you think the timing is
00:26:23.200 right for donald j trump if he does tonight launch his presidential 2024 win karen turk i'll start with
00:26:29.220 you i think he has always been a man of the people and the people are calling for it they want to hear
00:26:36.820 that he's running they want optimism restored and he's going to deliver that in some form maybe not
00:26:41.660 announcement maybe the creation of a new party or maybe a pending what's to come but he's going to
00:26:46.480 deliver what the people want and that's what they're demanding and i agree and you remember when we saw
00:26:49.640 you at cpac in dallas a couple months ago maybe it was july you said then steven i think you're right
00:26:54.340 go in now everybody knows you're gonna run do it now he waited probably for legal reasons with the
00:26:59.400 fundraising whatnot now the cat's out of the bag you got to stave off to santus and the other guys
00:27:03.900 get in there get the money get the support line up the endorsement number one and number two there's
00:27:08.940 another factor i know we're out of time but let's not forget you'll talk about this the justice
00:27:13.160 department is breathing down his neck they've got a grand jury in georgia they've got another grand
00:27:17.140 jury in washington looking at the classified documents of mar-a-lago so he's going to complicate
00:27:22.120 it i think in my opinion i haven't covered this long time the idea of a potential indictment is going to
00:27:27.680 get complicated once he becomes a candidate because this justice department it knows that donald trump's
00:27:34.020 only going to get stronger if they indict him if they go after him because his movement might
00:27:37.820 actually grow karen what time is coverage start tonight on real american voice we're doing the
00:27:43.960 pregame at five o'clock what time is the coverage oh we're we're we're going to be there from seven
00:27:49.960 o'clock through nine o'clock we're going to be in and out all day but our coverage is going to start
00:27:54.100 at seven in prime time and we're going to roll right into the announcement at nine and i have to
00:27:57.780 tell you the crowd went crazy steve they are ready for it they love the war room they love steven k who
00:28:02.140 doesn't love steven k right steve we'll see you tonight we can't wait to see you by the way
00:28:05.960 the the bright the bright sunshine of a more american sunrise the dark specter of the war room
00:28:13.080 what a combo ed henry karen turk thank you guys back andy biggs and we're also going to go back
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00:29:39.740 action action action republicans in this nation so we have to make a change and uh and i know that
00:29:46.720 you've got people that are saying oh andy don't do it now it's the the margin's too thin they would
00:29:52.260 have been if we had a 25 seat majority they'd have been saying oh don't do it now andy because
00:29:56.380 the margin is so great we we just had a big victory they said in 2020 when we lost the the house again
00:30:03.440 they said oh don't do it because we're in the minority that it is time to exit this path and move
00:30:10.540 and turn a new leaf turn a new page so we can go forward for the american people that's what this is
00:30:16.160 about it's not about even kevin mccarthy so much or andy big so much as it's time to change the status quo
00:30:21.980 in washington dc it's past time to do that yeah that's right we had russ vote on and he's been
00:30:29.620 on him russ has not has not really been a political guy so much as he's a a policy guy omb but he has
00:30:36.340 been at the forefront of this and it's and the reason i want to have you on today is ironic this
00:30:40.700 vote takes place at least the first round vote or the leadership vote takes place on the same day
00:30:44.500 as donald j trump's announcement it's a we have a structural problem we're not aligned and and i want
00:30:51.740 you to talk to the audience about what we need to align what the hat what that particularly the
00:30:55.700 house does or the congressional party with these america what trump represents with this kind of
00:31:01.600 populist nationalist america first policies can you walk us through that because it's not really the
00:31:06.600 perhaps the personalities of andy biggs although he's a fighter and a beloved character or kevin
00:31:10.600 mccarthy who may seem to a lot of people to be too corporate or too establishment it's a it's a
00:31:16.320 fundamental deeper issue in that is it not sir it is and it's structural so so you know if you want
00:31:22.460 to have good policy you have to have good procedure and you have to have the structure and you have to
00:31:26.040 rebalance the structure and that's what i'm i'm talking about that on i'm dealing with both these
00:31:31.760 issues quite frankly so the structure has to change how does it change well how about if you if you open
00:31:37.560 up the appropriations process in such a way that you actually can reduce the inflation uh
00:31:45.920 sustaining and fueling budget of this massive federal budget that we have in order to do that
00:31:53.680 you have to fix the internal structure to do it because it's not set up to to fix that the same
00:31:59.240 thing with any kind of conservative idea and and the you know donald trump actually had this right when
00:32:04.640 talked about the swamp and the uniparty and and what goes on here well these people are all this
00:32:10.960 i'll prefer the structure the way it is because they profit off it in order for the american people to
00:32:16.820 profit off it you have to get in and use and resort back to the constitutional uh constraints and so you
00:32:23.140 use that um how about things as simple as i mean seriously as simple as saying a single subject rule on
00:32:28.800 bills no more 3 000 page bills that are given to people with one hour before you vote and saying you
00:32:34.480 got to vote to know what's in it uh those things are structural and they've gotten worse under
00:32:40.560 pelosi but they were bad under the previous administration how about just allowing members
00:32:44.840 of congress to go to the floor and um move to amend you doesn't need you have to don't have to grab
00:32:50.320 just allow them to move to amend and debate it and have a vote on it we haven't had an open uh amendment
00:32:55.820 process in six years steve six years so that's the structural side the policy side is to say look
00:33:03.200 uh me and and the the more moderate side or liberal side of the republicans we agree on certain things
00:33:11.000 let's how about if we find those agreement points that are america first in nature and and put those
00:33:17.120 up in a very simple fashion not uh buried under thousands of pages of crap and just say let's build
00:33:24.860 a fence they want a fence uh and let's fund it build it and go forward and then the other thing is and
00:33:30.700 this is what's key i think too steve to altering the status quo and that is to recognize you have
00:33:36.040 to use every tool in the toolbox to leverage against people who view us not as political opponents
00:33:41.660 not as americans with just divergent viewpoints they view us as political enemies they do and we
00:33:49.240 have to change that in order to change it you have to be ready to fight and use the toolbox of tools that
00:33:55.000 we have so and to do all this do you is you're running for speakership a protest vote or do you
00:34:04.560 have a shot for this like people tell me hey you've got 10 or 12 votes i don't know if mccarthy has the
00:34:09.740 rest but i mean what's the practical purpose of this is this a protest vote is this for you to lay out
00:34:15.160 this alternative vision for we could go or has any bigs got a shot at this
00:34:19.500 well i'm the first to admit that if i have a shot at it it's really a long shot steve um kevin has got
00:34:27.600 this sewn up i mean this the status quo as i said you got people who say well we can't we can't vote
00:34:32.620 for bigs because we have a too thin of a majority uh and and they would they would find some reason to
00:34:38.160 vote always for the for the establishment status quo uh if in the end we get a significant number of votes
00:34:46.280 uh then kevin will still be the nominee but he has to fight it out and we have to have an internal
00:34:51.460 fight and discussion and maybe we can exit the path of the status quo that's defeating this country
00:34:58.440 um by january 3rd because on january 3rd is the actual vote steve that's today's really kind of the
00:35:04.260 primary and january 3rd would be the general
00:35:06.920 so what should people look for in the next couple weeks and is this going to be tied to people's behavior
00:35:13.700 during the lame duck i mean the lame duck we're trying to get the audience up you're going to
00:35:17.280 have a two trillion dollar discretionary spending fiasco in this omnibus bill you got the debt ceiling
00:35:22.840 they're going to try to move they're going to try to make puerto rico a state i mean is is the lame
00:35:26.680 duck inarticulably linked with this fight for the speakership absolutely it is and so that so it's
00:35:33.600 it's critical that we had somebody in the race i got i you know i was drafted people asked me to run so i
00:35:40.200 said okay and and you know what we have to see what they're doing in the lame duck and that that
00:35:45.980 will give you an indication but don't forget that we have a we have a history here of where we've been
00:35:51.420 on this and i will just tell you one other thing steve i think it's important to know uh i actually
00:35:55.860 was the senate president in arizona we didn't have a super majority uh but it wasn't perhaps as thin as
00:36:01.360 this majority is but one thing i proved i think is that i know how to lead and work with people who
00:36:06.720 have divergent viewpoints and we had a very successful uh legislature when i was there
00:36:13.260 because i think my ability to understand what we could do and and move up to the line as far as we
00:36:19.780 could go to protect and preserve the rights of americans and people need to be watching what what's
00:36:25.040 happening in this next three weeks steve i mean by december 16th you'll you'll have a pretty good idea
00:36:31.020 whether um mr mccarthy is is fit for the job and i think a lot of people would say they'd already seen
00:36:38.400 his performance for the past four years or so some of your best allies mtg for instance says
00:36:46.000 andy biggs a great guy i love andy biggs he's a warrior he's one of my partners in this but he's
00:36:50.940 walking down a path that could flip this to the democrats you could have a moderate democrat or liz 0.93
00:36:55.380 cheney or some some crazy idea like that is that realistic in your mind but i love marjorie as you
00:37:01.600 know we've worked together side by side and taken our licks together and fought this battle but i think
00:37:06.520 she's she's wrong here i think and and the reason i say that is um we we have a chance if you don't make
00:37:14.300 a chance because you have a small majority uh and you won't do it because we have a big majority or you
00:37:19.660 won't do it because we're in the minority when will you make a change when will you make a change
00:37:24.380 everything is fraught with risk i don't think this is a serious risk though i don't think uh even uh
00:37:32.020 the the republican who said he would go to democrats he's kind of walked that back already
00:37:37.800 nobody wants to see a democrat uh leading us now when we have a majority i so i don't think that's
00:37:44.200 realistic i think what's much more realistic is that if if we united it doesn't necessarily mean
00:37:49.160 you have to unite behind kevin mccarthy for pete's sakes you can unite about unite behind me and
00:37:54.100 if i'm not the guy uh and you can find a different consensus candidate let's unite behind somebody
00:37:58.940 who will actually uh invoke america first policies and that's what we need to do steve uh this country
00:38:06.100 is ripe for it this body is ripe for reform and transition and we have to exit the suboptimal
00:38:13.160 path and build a new path and it might have some short-term pain but it'll have long-term
00:38:17.400 consequences uh uh and rewards that that will make this country a far better place make this
00:38:23.380 institution a far better more responsive uh institution matt gates is talking about hard
00:38:29.460 nose right now as you see it how many hard nose that will never vote for mccarthy how many hard
00:38:35.220 nose do you have i don't know i i know we've been whipping it and i feel very comfortable that uh
00:38:41.400 uh we we will have a significant number of hard nose here on mr mccarthy and um and we're whipping
00:38:49.580 the count and i would just tell you it's it's a secret ballot a lot of people don't realize that
00:38:53.380 this ballot today is a secret ballot and there are people uh who who uh want to vote no for kevin
00:39:00.140 but they don't want him necessarily to know it because he might uh exact retribution against them
00:39:05.380 and that's also a crappy way to lead it of this body
00:39:08.740 congressman biggs how do people follow you on social media uh go to at uh rep andy biggs az
00:39:18.820 rep andy biggs az
00:39:20.340 everybody ought to be following that social media account a lot happening congressman biggs thanks
00:39:26.520 for carving time out today to join us in the war room you bet steve thanks so much for all you do
00:39:31.120 okay let's go to our our old executive editor let's go to liz herrington i know she's jammed up 1.00
00:39:38.420 today she's communication strategist for president trump uh liz we have liz tell us give us a sense of
00:39:45.500 the place today how big a deal is this and what's going to happen tonight hey steve this couldn't be
00:39:52.640 more huge you already have people lining up on the bridge with american flags and this is the most
00:39:57.940 anticipated announcement for president trump that he'll make tonight his decision whether he will
00:40:05.820 run um it is the most anticipated event i think we've seen and i think the american people are
00:40:12.020 really looking forward to it they want hope they want uh resolve and that's in president trump he's
00:40:18.820 the leader of the greatest political movement our country has ever seen everyone wants to be here
00:40:25.040 and the preparations for this have been enormous we couldn't be more excited and we cannot wait to
00:40:30.840 hear from president trump tonight talk about the crowd how enthusiastic is uh is maga today for this
00:40:38.500 you've been around the country in these rallies it's all bring all brought to bear back to marlago
00:40:42.940 day how enthusiastic is the trump base it is through the roof i mean you can't even imagine i mean you saw
00:40:50.700 the four rallies before november 8th and we haven't seen anything quite like it president trump wasn't
00:40:57.120 even on the ticket and yet we had tens of thousands of people in that rally in miami with the rain coming
00:41:03.140 down you had the rainbow uh before he came on in pennsylvania and latrobe there is an energy here and a
00:41:10.500 spirit that we cannot waver on and president trump certainly is not we know things uh are happening right
00:41:18.840 now you're covering it so well steve uh with arizona and everything else but the maga base needs to know
00:41:25.520 that president trump he is our general washington here he is the leader of this movement this movement
00:41:31.300 is not going anywhere and it's actually growing stronger and stronger by the day
00:41:35.960 liz we know you got to bounce what's your social media you want people to follow you all day how do
00:41:41.800 they do that truth social at real liz usa you got to tune into this tonight
00:41:46.840 oh yeah we're going to be live all day long going to get liz harrington's actually been with us later 1.00
00:41:53.640 in the evening she's busy throughout the day short commercial break our former executive editor liz
00:41:58.220 harrington's on the scene we're going to go back to mar-a-lago we got jane zirkle
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00:43:59.940 you're by the bridge jane that's your favorite perch you've been down there a lot tell us about today
00:44:05.000 the scale of it the enthusiasm about it what's going to happen well steve there is already a huge crowd
00:44:10.980 down here right in front of mar-a-lago the southern bridge has been packed there has been tons of
00:44:16.200 supporters for president trump that are already showing up in anticipation for this evening
00:44:20.760 there are going to be thousands of members of the media and guests here tonight to hear what president
00:44:25.920 trump has to say and the energy is absolutely magnetic if you remembered over the summer we saw
00:44:30.920 these fantastic demonstrations after the fbi raid on mar-a-lago and i'm going to be getting some
00:44:36.600 videos of those that are happening today so definitely check them out on my getter and twitter
00:44:40.700 and it's going to be a fantastic night jane you you've been doing this for us down there
00:44:48.180 particularly these pickups that's across the waters our audience looks at it for the podcast
00:44:52.520 she's standing there right down the other side of the water is mar-a-lago uh the enthusiasm today are
00:44:58.360 they ready to are people ready to fire off the football are they ready for the grind of a presidential
00:45:03.560 uh run for 2024 is the maga base the maga the war room posse are they set for this down there
00:45:09.340 definitely these people are prepared to take action action action and they are maga to the core
00:45:15.880 they brought their trump signs their trump banners i've been talking to a few of them and they are so
00:45:20.520 excited and hope that trump is announcing to run for president tonight they're hoping what that that
00:45:26.120 announcement is for that they're very very excited to see what he has to say and they are going to be
00:45:30.620 here all night long showing support for him and the guests that are coming to mar-a-lago
00:45:35.540 okay jane i know it's a little hot down there but you've done this before i want you to hang out get
00:45:41.680 some shade hang out we're going to come back to our own jane zirkle down outside of mar-a-lago
00:45:46.360 at the famous bridge let's go now to cash patel cash would obviously be one of the senior people in the
00:45:53.540 second uh administration he was uh one of the leaders of the first administration uh and now a
00:45:59.640 renowned author of children's books cash why are you down in uh why are you down in mar-a-lago today
00:46:05.280 why are you going to be part of this you know steve i thought i would come down here and work on my tan
00:46:09.500 but uh no in reality um i spoke to president trump late last night uh you know we had a great
00:46:15.100 conversation and i think you guys know what's coming i was just with the real america's team in
00:46:19.140 downtown palm beach with ed henry and company live there's people out there with banners and
00:46:23.540 stuff we're having a great time i think president trump has realized that there is only one way to
00:46:29.600 go and that is forward and the only way to defeat the critics and the haters is to put the trump agenda
00:46:35.380 back front and center for all of america to see we can do the autopsy in the midterm of the elections
00:46:40.220 in the arizonas and nevadas um whenever you want but president trump wants to remind people
00:46:45.600 americans that is that it is a two-year mission to retake this white house and i think he's going
00:46:50.520 to start by taking it off tonight let me ask you is this a you know because there's critics you've
00:46:57.400 had club for growth come out with these these fake polls uh to try to put a damper on this uh make
00:47:03.280 the case is this unifying or divisive is this causing a a problem and divisive although i think
00:47:10.800 divisive is not always bad because it gets issues to the top or is this going to be a unifying
00:47:15.540 uh effort is president trump going to try to bring people together on our side of the football
00:47:20.120 and say we got one common political enemy or is this going to be just more divisiveness sir
00:47:26.140 no i think it serves the purpose of taking the divisiveness that has happened a lot with to do
00:47:31.860 with the mainstream media and the fake narratives that they've been putting out the disinformation
00:47:35.420 campaigns that there's some sort of hatred between donald trump and maybe some of his inner circle
00:47:39.820 i think what you've seen is another stroke of political genius from president trump
00:47:43.800 he has put on full blast the people that he is going to immediately surround himself with
00:47:48.220 and the others in the republican party such as the paul ryan's of the world have shown their true
00:47:52.700 colors to say they want nothing to do with trump going forward so now you know who to stand with
00:47:57.500 you're either going to stand with president trump as he unifies the mega base as he only can
00:48:02.140 or you're free to stand with the other part of the republican faction that somehow thinks they are going to be the new
00:48:08.300 republican party um and somehow forget the last six years of donald trump's recreation of the republican
00:48:14.060 brand so on that front i believe it's going to be a massive unifying effort but you need i agree with
00:48:18.160 you need a little bit of division ahead of time which is what the last week was about so you know
00:48:22.300 where the lines are and people have to make a decision where are you going to stand are you going to stand
00:48:26.860 with president trump at mar-a-lago or are you going to stand with the paul ryan's and liz cheney's and
00:48:31.980 carl roves of the world as they bash uh one of the greatest presidents we've ever had and uh you
00:48:37.220 know what people got to make a choice look you've been there with nunez and you've won the leader
00:48:45.100 leading fighters against the administrative state the deep state and for america first walk me through
00:48:49.400 the structure i mean we've got the ken griffins you got the paul singers you got their their mouthpieces
00:48:54.180 and paul ryan their factotums what this is really gets down to two different philosophies of the
00:49:01.200 world and of governance and of this country walk me through what those two differences are and
00:49:05.760 they're a little bit irreconcilable don't you agree i agree and it sort of harkens me back to 2015 and
00:49:11.340 no better person than you to take us back to that time and lead us through the winning strategy but
00:49:15.980 what donald trump was all about then and is all about now is you don't buy the american electorate vote
00:49:22.000 you don't bring in the ken griffins of the world and buy it of course money helps run campaigns but
00:49:26.880 we're going back to the days of a grassroots campaign where everybody the mega movement is
00:49:31.520 involved whether it's a dollar a hundred dollars a thousand dollars you want to feel a part of the
00:49:35.540 movement and that feeling is what money can't capture that feeling is what donald trump has
00:49:40.780 captured the essence of that movement is what you're going to see tonight and you know these what
00:49:46.480 we fail to do and some of your audience might not agree with me on this one in terms of the midterms
00:49:50.420 but we have to learn from it we have to learn that the candidates have to go out there and the
00:49:54.760 surrogates have to go out there and hammer on kitchen table values president trump set the 1.00
00:49:58.920 playing field national security the border the economy iran china russia and taking on the global
00:50:04.380 anarchists that are going around the world and helping everyday americans but we have to connect
00:50:08.640 that to the independent voters which is i think something we fail to do in some states and i'm putting
00:50:13.000 mail-in ballot voting aside let's not even bring that up but we have to do a better job of hammering that
00:50:18.780 through and that's going to be my job going forward as i travel the country on behalf of president
00:50:23.720 trump for his candidacy and i think we can do it with great surrogate work and we don't need as i
00:50:29.140 said earlier the ken griffins of the world if they want to take another position with their money
00:50:32.340 that's fine you know what i called i talked to 10 billionaires that are going to be at mar-a-lago
00:50:36.820 tonight so i'm not really worried about it
00:50:38.880 uh cash can you hang on we're taking 90 second break and i i got to ask you about this house because
00:50:46.340 you're you're a man of the house and uh you worked for one of the great leaders we had in the house
00:50:50.980 devin nunez uh if you can stick with us 90 second break we got jane zirkle at the bridge
00:50:55.940 we got uh captain uh mo bannon and our new executive editor natalie winters uh back at the
00:51:01.920 real america voice set in marlin palm beach we're gonna go there we got the great cash patel we're
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