Bannon's War Room - Episode 2338： Breaking Down Voter Fraud; The Threats In Mohave County

00:00:00.000 this is the final scream of a dying regime pray for our enemies because we're going with evil on

00:00:10.780 these people you're just not got a free shot all these networks lying about the people the people

00:00:17.220 had a belly full of it i know you don't like hearing that i know you've tried to do everything

00:00:21.140 in the world to stop that but you're not going to stop it it's going to happen and where do people

00:00:24.720 like that go to share the big line mega media i wish in my soul i wish that any of these people

00:00:32.540 had a conscience ask yourself what is my task and what is my purpose if that answer is to save my

00:00:40.480 country this country will be saved war here's your host stephen k bannett it's wednesday 30 november

00:00:50.800 the year of our lord 2022 we've got capital markets geopolitics the politics of pennsylvania

00:00:56.380 arizona ballot harvesting uh the coercive nature of the process out in arizona all of it plus we're

00:01:04.900 going to get to ukraine russia china what's happening in beijing and brazil on the next two hours so

00:01:11.220 strap in i want to start with steve cortez we're gonna go to georgia john ferguson join us in a

00:01:16.560 moment uh we've got a brain analysis of ballot harvesting in delaware county that did not certify

00:01:22.040 their election uh in pennsylvania commonwealth of pennsylvania we're gonna go to arizona uh with the

00:01:27.240 officials out there that are saying they're being coerced to into um certifying the election so we've

00:01:33.500 got a lot of a lot of wood to chop and some quite controversial topics to address cortez um the wall

00:01:40.500 street journal want to really give a hat tip to the wall street journal and to uh rupert murdoch and that

00:01:45.840 crack team they finally caught up with the uh the war room six months later in particular i think

00:01:50.460 that i think they're so upset that we focused we featured yesterday so treasury yield curve inverts

00:01:56.780 to deepest level since 1981 right and yesterday a couple people were wanting to mean that is it hey

00:02:04.160 it's a little dry start with cortez going through the thing and but overwhelmingly the audience loved

00:02:08.700 it because they know it's going to impact their life right walk me through walk me through the wall

00:02:12.540 street journal catching up with this and of course ladies and gentlemen we told you this is all going

00:02:17.040 to start to manifest itself into numbers in employment and wages and all of it and surprise

00:02:23.140 surprise who would have thunk it steve cortez it is take it away sir no it's it's starting to happen

00:02:29.260 regarding the wall street journal steve imitation is the sincerest form of flattery so welcome to the

00:02:35.180 party wall street journal you're extremely late but better late than never we've of course been

00:02:39.360 talking about the yield curve for many many months and what a foreboding sign it is the u.s first now

00:02:44.640 the global yield curve inverted i also want to get ahead of the curve for the audience here and let

00:02:48.800 them know not just the yield curve but ahead of the curve of the news flow and information and

00:02:52.980 economics to tell them that inflation is still a really important story but it's transitioning now

00:02:58.740 into the recession that the inflation has caused and so i think we should shift our thinking

00:03:04.460 inflation still matters but the looming recession and particularly looming job losses are going to

00:03:09.820 matter more in the coming months so just as we were ahead talking about the inflation that would

00:03:15.080 explode because of biden's policies and we were very early on that i think we can be early as well

00:03:19.540 on talking about the deepening recession and the massive looming job losses that are going to unfold

00:03:25.420 and this again not just my opinion we got two data points overnight which were really foreboding the

00:03:30.180 first one we'll talk more about this later in the show out of china china pmi purchasing managers

00:03:35.640 index both on the manufacturing and the services side in recessionary contraction territory below 50

00:03:42.660 both of them were very very big misses the combination of a weak u.s consumer on this side of the pacific

00:03:49.300 and the zero covid tyranny on their side of the pacific have resulted in a chinese economy that is

00:03:55.560 crashing into the ditch but the problems aren't of course contained to china here in the united states

00:03:59.700 this morning we got really bad jobs news out on the adp private payrolls number we can show it

00:04:06.660 please on chart number one because again i like data and evidence not just sloganeering if we look at

00:04:12.740 this chart that goes back to the beginning of the biden term this is private payrolls from adp it was a

00:04:18.840 massive miss out this morning as you can see like so many economic metrics biden was given a great

00:04:25.100 handoff from donald trump look at that up arrow in the first several months of the biden regime's

00:04:30.740 term in office the handoff from the trump boom 2.0 was magnificent we had an economy that was

00:04:36.140 aggressively reopening without inflation but biden quickly squandered that wonderful inheritance and it

00:04:42.860 has been a downward trajectory ever since and the worst detail of this report out this morning

00:04:48.200 manufacturing manufacturing manufacturing manufacturing jobs down 100 000 positions 100 000 workers for

00:04:56.140 the month so that this is these are the consequences of the inflation that joe biden has wrought the

00:05:02.240 inflation has tipped the economy because of higher interest rates of the inflation produced has tipped the

00:05:07.140 economy into a significant recession and one that is now producing real job losses tangible job losses for the

00:05:14.660 american people okay i want to go back because these are high value added jobs also in the adp report

00:05:20.840 the day report also wages or is this the 20th month or the 21st month that we still have

00:05:26.260 a negative real wage growth or is adp not cover that because i saw some wage

00:05:31.860 yeah they do now typically when i talk about the consecutive i rely on the cpi report but yes this also

00:05:37.960 certainly points to a 20th consecutive month for now i'm going to stick with 19 which is terrible enough i got

00:05:43.460 uh 19 consecutive but as an indicator but as an indicator they're giving the indication when the

00:05:49.340 cbi comes out that'll be this will be the 20th month my point is wages are not keeping up and now

00:05:55.480 you get the double whammy which we said was going to happen when the biden was given all the happy

00:05:59.980 talk and they run up to the midterms you know tightest job market in history tightest job market in

00:06:05.160 history a lot of that's because people work in two two and three jobs right to make sure that they can

00:06:10.740 put food on the table not run up any more credit card debt i want to go back to the manufacturing

00:06:15.320 jobs and this is key to pennsylvania and all the upper middle what these this is the heart of the

00:06:21.080 nation of these manufacturing jobs these are these are higher value added they're not service jobs this

00:06:26.820 is the type of thing that you can support a family on or attempt to support a family in this day in time

00:06:31.160 of inflation how big a deal is this oh listen i mean it's massive and and you're right these are

00:06:36.700 high income family sustaining jobs uh when you combine that loss in manufacturing with with what

00:06:42.580 we've already seen in tech over 120 000 jobs lost in tech this year also high uh salary jobs high value

00:06:51.140 add positions for the american economy uh this is unfortunately a trend that is only beginning and

00:06:57.180 here's the thing too i wrote a new article about this which the audience can find on my sub stack if

00:07:01.120 they care to read the details i do believe that inflation may have peaked now importantly that doesn't

00:07:06.060 mean that inflation is going to get better right it means it's just going to be less bad less severe in

00:07:11.040 terms of inflation but if it has indeed peaked steve it has only peaked for the worst of all reasons

00:07:16.960 because we have such a deepening recession and we're going to have such severe job losses that it is going

00:07:22.560 to be a restraining force on prices prices are going to remain very high very elevated but they're not

00:07:27.500 going to continue at the upward trajectory they had before but again not for the right reasons for all the

00:07:32.860 wrong reasons the inflation has now caused the recession has caused the beginning of massive job

00:07:38.080 losses which in turn will cause inflation to at least temper a bit from here but again this is this

00:07:43.660 is by no means good news for the american economy let's go to uh also i want to show a little ankle on

00:07:50.420 today obviously the the fed the big day for the fed uh what do you anticipate because listen they're

00:07:56.280 trying to choke down the inflation this is both monetary and fiscal policy trying to get coordinated

00:08:01.980 right the fiscal madness when we say fiscal this is the spending and right now in capitol hill you

00:08:08.560 have this huge battle and mitch mcconnell said yesterday oh i'm going to work with the democrats

00:08:12.400 to get an omnibus we need to put this to bed and not just have a continued resolution kicks into the

00:08:17.880 year when we actually have total control in the house um you see and actually kevin mccarthy yesterday

00:08:23.960 very disappointing i remember it was congressman norman from south carolina said hey i asked him

00:08:29.280 does he support this balanced budget in seven years said no he doesn't mccarthy yesterday i think

00:08:34.400 showed the cards you know he's been having a good run trying to show conservatives in the house

00:08:38.500 freedom caucus and particularly this audience that he's going to be tough but he said he he threw in

00:08:43.520 with the omnibus right that means he doesn't want to have tough votes in the beginning of the year we

00:08:47.600 need tough votes we need to force the biden administration to the table to be actually get

00:08:52.920 to control the spending because the spending is what put put uh through um jet fuel onto this

00:08:59.620 burning dumpster fire right right and and that's one of the biggest reasons so the fed today walk

00:09:05.240 through the apparatchik pow uh today what is he going to do and by the way that's what powell is you know

00:09:12.220 look unfortunately powell is exhibit a among a lot of bad exhibits of the failure of the supposed

00:09:19.240 experts of the credentialed class of permanent washington uh who have great cvs they have great

00:09:24.400 resumes but they actually have no real knowledge of their area of supposed expertise in this case the

00:09:29.500 economy from jerome powell jerome powell is a washington dc lifer born and raised there he is a

00:09:34.620 lawyer by trade he has never worked in financial markets he did a stint at carlisle in the private

00:09:39.800 equity world but the reality is only in a town like washington dc could somebody as untalented and

00:09:45.980 unremarkable as jerome powell become as powerful as he has become he's speaking this afternoon 1 30 p.m

00:09:52.180 eastern time i expect him to mostly strike a hawkish tone meaning that insisting that the fed needs to

00:09:59.120 continue to raise interest rates the reason i say that is his colleagues on the federal reserve uh board

00:10:03.980 the fomc that determines interest rates they have been incredibly blunt and hawkish particularly bullard

00:10:09.700 who over the weekend warned financial markets that they are actually underpricing the risks of the fed

00:10:15.120 being incredibly aggressive so i think the fed has finally found religion on inflation an inflation

00:10:20.480 crisis that it's itself helped to create it deserves a a massive portion of the blame for this along

00:10:26.860 with a profligate congress and then the democrat party um but look powell i will i will tell you this

00:10:32.720 harry truman uh steve used to say that he wanted a one-arm economist because he was sick of economists

00:10:37.580 saying on the one hand on the other hand okay powell is the master of that he'll give us a lot of on the

00:10:42.320 one hand on the other hand this afternoon but on balance it will be more hawkish than not because

00:10:47.480 the fed realizes finally at last the gravity of the crisis that they themselves helped to create

00:10:53.660 okay steve you're gonna hang around with me for the first hour so we got a lot to go through i want

00:10:58.800 to go let's go to john fredericks we have him up in georgia we don't okay fine if we don't okay fine

00:11:05.640 let's go to john fredericks john you're on the uh you're on the uh the the bus down in georgia

00:11:11.660 is uh if herschel walker wins this people have to understand the gravity of the situation you get a

00:11:16.580 power sharing deal at 50 50 which is radically different than if you got uh 51 49 also if you

00:11:24.100 get 50 50 who knows maybe you talk mansion and one of these guys in the flipping that don't want to

00:11:29.060 get uh you know don't want to lose the 2024 race where do we stand with herschel walker

00:11:34.360 well the other thing steven you nailed it people saying well it doesn't matter the democrats have

00:11:40.620 control it matters a lot you're right 50 50 power share share big difference on the committees

00:11:45.260 and you mentioned joe mansion even if he doesn't flip if you're 50 50 you know mansion's up in 24

00:11:51.580 west virginia trump got what 75 of the vote there he's got nowhere to hide at 51 49 he can have show

00:11:59.240 votes go with us 50 times it doesn't matter because harris breaks the tie right so it also

00:12:06.300 makes joe mansion has to man up and give real votes in real time so that's the other thing and the third

00:12:13.620 thing is it's one less seat obviously we have to win to get control in 24 but look uh going into

00:12:19.680 wednesday today herschel's behind my estimates by about 200 000 votes the good news is we you know

00:12:26.300 we're out here on the bus door all we're interested now is ballots i'm in the ballot business i got out

00:12:32.300 of the voting business after november 8th i'm out of the convincing business the narrative business i'm

00:12:38.420 i'm in the i'm in the ballot business i just want to put ballots in boxes that's how they win that's

00:12:43.220 how we're gonna win uh walker had a great two days monday and tuesday getting early ballots in

00:12:49.140 in uh republican areas we had record turnout so he's cutting into that deficit but what really hurt him

00:12:55.860 here is the steve the incompetence of the republican national committee is beyond the pale you can't

00:13:02.640 make this up if i submitted this movie script to you when you were a director and producer you would 0.99

00:13:09.060 have sent it back to me and said fredericks i can't even do this it's so stupid nobody would believe it 0.98

00:13:13.840 so what the democrats what the republicans did the democrats wanted to start early voting here 0.84

00:13:19.320 a week ago wednesday the republicans wanted to start it on monday the democrats also wanted early

00:13:24.760 voting on saturday so the republicans file suit they don't want to do it a judge rules in the

00:13:29.760 democrats favor then the republicans turn around at the rnc with their loser lawyers and they file a

00:13:37.080 number of appeals well this goes on for two weeks finally a judge rules in the democrats favor but the

00:13:45.200 republicans had no contingent contingency plan so starting on wednesday last week wednesday and saturday

00:13:53.080 right and then he had thursday and friday to set this up so they had a four-day head start all the

00:13:59.040 major democrat counties were open for early voting and none of the republicans were because they didn't

00:14:06.840 have the staff they didn't have a contingency plan they didn't set anything up they had nothing so

00:14:11.800 they didn't start early voting until monday so warnock got this humongous start on saturday

00:14:19.020 there were three-hour lines in his biggest counties steve and so that's how warnock now

00:14:25.960 has a major lead because ron or romney mcdaniel once again screwed it up and here we are playing

00:14:32.420 catch up hang on for one second we're gonna go back to georgia with john frederick's we've got a

00:14:37.940 very special guest that's going to walk us through the ballot business as john frederick calls it in the

00:14:43.260 commonwealth of pennsylvania we're gonna go to arizona we've got breaking news out of arizona

00:14:48.600 and uh we've got steve cortez we're packed this morning georgia and pennsylvania next in the world

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00:16:13.860 up our fathers and brothers and now the democrat party is coming for your kids democrat senator rafael 0.98

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00:16:33.280 tough ads that laura loomer and her group are putting up in georgia very tough but this is we're beyond

00:16:38.640 policy on this right now fredericks i think you're this is all about this is pure political muscle who's

00:16:44.800 going to turn out votes via ground game i don't think it's about ads right it's about ground game

00:16:50.740 and my understanding is that the kemp uh governor kemp supposedly has the greatest turnout machine

00:16:56.380 finely tuned in georgia history you saw part of that in the beatdown of stacy abrams by what eight

00:17:03.560 nine points um and supposedly that was that was part of this massive mitch mcconnell carl rove

00:17:10.100 money raise was to rent that and use it as a stand-up operation this is all about get out the vote

00:17:16.660 we got to pull another youngkin where maga has to turn out massively uh for walker to win and walker

00:17:23.400 must win we got to get to a 50 50 senate to get leverage remember the word leverage we got leverage

00:17:28.580 in the house we need leverage in the senate tell me about the ground game do you see it is it happening

00:17:34.200 and how does john fredericks in the war room help well listen the best thing that we can do is what

00:17:40.820 we're doing right now on our bus store go to magabusstore.com we're in early voting areas in the

00:17:45.940 biggest areas that we have to get trump voters out because you know the bottom line is 200 000 people

00:17:51.600 voted for kemp for kemp in november 8th didn't vote for herschel for whatever reason that that number

00:17:57.420 is real and we have to deal with that so look here's the good news um our message is resonating

00:18:03.300 of get out and vote and vote early and get your vote in now i think people understand that uh they

00:18:08.520 have to get out and vote so walker's had a great two days monday and tuesday were phenomenal with record

00:18:13.660 numbers of people turning out in red areas so we're very encouraged by that but look we we're in a big hole

00:18:19.740 and we have to understand we can't wait till game day if we do we're going to get beat again it's

00:18:24.440 not even going to be close we got to get these early votes in so anybody that's out there right

00:18:29.100 now you have a friend you have a family member in georgia get them out get them out today get them

00:18:33.340 out thursday get them up right don't wait till tuesday too many things happen on friday at 5 p.m

00:18:38.220 it's done no more early voting and then you know you gotta have the the the mail-out ballots coming in

00:18:43.960 we have to deal with that and we have to have the game day turnout but everybody that votes early is a

00:18:48.700 phone call that the republican party doesn't have to make on game day to get you out to vote

00:18:53.180 that's really what the key is we're in that we're in the ballot business i'm going to say it again

00:18:56.780 because we really have to understand the business we're in get the ballots in put them in a dropbox

00:19:01.840 that's what we have to do in order to pull this out we're behind it's winnable uh but we're closing

00:19:07.360 and it's a muscle by the way two days you sound like the godfather muscle the business we've chose this

00:19:12.700 is the business we've chosen john frederich real quickly how do they how they get to you on social media

00:19:16.800 how they follow the bus non-stop go to megabusstore.com come out sign the bus we get big crowds

00:19:24.760 wherever you do sign the bus get your ballot in sign the bus and vote sign the bus and vote that's

00:19:28.880 all we ask go to megabusstore.com you want to help us out with a donation we always appreciate that

00:19:34.640 this thing is on a string so uh we need all the help that we can get also you can follow me on social

00:19:39.880 media at jf radio show at jf radio show cory lewandowski interesting today gets on my show

00:19:45.940 on um rav and uh came pretty close to announcing a run for chair of the rnc the more candidates we get

00:19:54.700 in mike lindell lewandowski the better we need change at the rnc steve the incompetence there is

00:20:01.840 like if she was in a public company ron mcdonald ram today they would bring in security with a box

00:20:10.600 put her pictures in and escort her out and throw her on an uber that's how bad this thing is they 1.00

00:20:16.580 are so incompetent beyond the pale we need change my strong my strong recommendation to cory who's a

00:20:21.380 great guy sort yourself out first before you try to sort the orange say but it's a free country anybody 0.89

00:20:26.780 can run john fredericks thank you very much for my morning laughter thank you sir okay i want to go

00:20:32.880 talk john fredericks says hey i'm in the ballot business not the vote business i want to go to

00:20:38.120 athan uh kutsarombas in pennsylvania one of the smartest analytical guys had him on the show before

00:20:43.860 uh athan uh you've you've written this twitter feed i don't know if you put it into an article but

00:20:49.640 you wrote a twitter uh thread yesterday about delaware county now correct me if i'm wrong has

00:20:54.660 delaware county certified the vote in the commonwealth of pennsylvania by the recent election

00:20:59.260 or are they hesitating about it what's the status of actually the certification

00:21:02.520 luzerne county in northeast pennsylvania that is the county that has yet to certify because

00:21:08.540 on election day they ran out of ballots and thousands of voters were turned away

00:21:13.420 so how did that how did that happen had luzerne was the centerpiece the center of this huge fight

00:21:20.280 how did they run out of ballots uh it's steve i wish i knew you know that is ground zero for

00:21:26.000 mega country that is where the trump democrats live um and they just flat out ran out of ballots

00:21:31.320 it's hard to come up with an excuse for that so talk to us about your your twitter thread i want to

00:21:37.420 talk about this whole issue of early ballots mail-in ballots ballot harvesting etc walk us through

00:21:42.400 your analysis of this because pennsylvania is still the key that picks the lock and we have massive

00:21:47.600 problems out in arizona but walk me through your analysis of pennsylvania i like a lot of people

00:21:52.680 steve was pretty bullish on pennsylvania's midterm in november uh the reason i was was because you look

00:21:58.840 at the national environment and you say wow how can anybody vote for two more years of this but what

00:22:04.040 also got me uh optimistic was looking at the mail-in ballot returns across pennsylvania and i saw that

00:22:11.080 the democrats were underperforming their anticipated mail-in ballot returns and i said okay the

00:22:17.380 democrats have have a depressed turnout as well ultimately things didn't go the right way in

00:22:22.520 pennsylvania and the reason was because republicans didn't vote but what i wanted to do was prove a

00:22:28.840 point with how the democrats do mail-in balloting across pennsylvania to show that we can beat them

00:22:35.660 at their own game and on top of that pennsylvania is still a purple state and mail-in ballots is not the

00:22:42.080 reason pennsylvania went blue this past midterm so walk me through that walk me through how they do

00:22:48.120 a better how we can do a better why that why we didn't lose because of that yeah so what i did was

00:22:54.020 i took every single democratic voter in pennsylvania who applied to vote by mail and who also returned

00:23:00.220 their ballot i did it in all 67 of pennsylvania's counties and then i plotted it on a chart just because

00:23:07.640 i wanted to see how do people apply and how do they return their ballots in 66 of pennsylvania's 67

00:23:14.980 counties there was a clear trend two-thirds of democrats apply to vote by mail in the spring

00:23:21.060 and one-third of democrats apply to vote by mail in the fall the reason it breaks down like that is

00:23:27.500 because the pennsylvania mail-in ballot law mandates that each of pennsylvania's counties send a mailing

00:23:34.760 to prior mail-in voters asking if they want to do it again so you've got close to a million democrats

00:23:41.540 received a taxpayer paid for mailing asking them do you want to vote by mail again and a whole bunch of

00:23:48.200 them said yeah i'd like to do that what the democrats did is they would then chase that taxpayer mailer

00:23:54.100 with a text a robocall a digital ad so two-thirds come during the spring the remaining third of

00:24:02.460 applications come during the fall and that's just because it's the fever pitch of the campaigns and

00:24:07.040 voters are saying i want to vote by mail but there was one county that stood out and that county was

00:24:13.300 delaware county which was a prior republican stronghold in suburban philadelphia and today it's

00:24:19.540 part of the democratic base what made them so unique is that of these 67 counties in pennsylvania

00:24:26.640 66 of them had almost no activity throughout the summer however in delaware county they saw the

00:24:34.280 majority of their applications happen during the summer and you have to ask yourself why the first

00:24:40.560 thing you want to do is try to establish was there any fraud steve there is no evidence of any fraud

00:24:46.600 that i've seen in delaware county in order to commit mail and ballot fraud you can do it in two places

00:24:52.420 number one is that when you apply to vote by mail you have to provide either your social security or

00:24:59.420 driver's license number now we don't have voter id when you walk into a poll in pennsylvania but you

00:25:05.340 need voter id to vote by mail so you need someone that builds a list somehow steals a whole bunch of

00:25:12.500 driver's license numbers submits an application without a voter's knowledge and then completes them

00:25:17.760 that didn't happen the second way you can have fraud is if there's some type of conspiracy in a

00:25:23.720 courthouse to not count ballots i've seen no evidence of that in delaware county ultimately what

00:25:29.760 the democrats did is exactly what republicans used to do prior to the pandemic we used to have

00:25:35.900 coordinated campaigns to get republicans to vote by mail the way we did that is we mailed everybody

00:25:42.380 an application and we would chase it with a phone call what the democrats did is their candidates at

00:25:48.840 the state house level and elsewhere would go to door to door and carry an application with them

00:25:54.340 and say please fill out this application to vote and mail it in there's nothing wrong with that that's

00:26:00.360 just great get out the vote efforts that we've gotten away from in pennsylvania for the past two years

00:26:05.760 and we need to get back to basics if we do that hang on you say there's no fraud because i know

00:26:11.720 there's a big controversy in delaware county we're going to try to get some of these folks on tonight

00:26:15.280 to go through it you say you need a social security number and a or a driver's license number how do

00:26:24.220 you know that there is no voter fraud and i want to talk about the signature verification on that but

00:26:29.060 just on the application itself you're saying you would either have to get a huge grunge of social

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00:26:39.760 steve 100 unless somebody somehow finds a way to tap into the pennsylvania department of

00:26:46.820 transportation database to steal thousands of driver's license numbers they're just not going

00:26:51.800 to be able to pull it off and each county is mandated to check that number on the application

00:26:57.480 against the database in pennsylvania or else that that person can't vote by mail it's that simple it's

00:27:02.740 it's baked in voter id that republicans have been begging for in pennsylvania for years and voter

00:27:09.260 id is an 80 20 issue in pennsylvania we have it today with mail-in ballots and republicans need

00:27:15.820 to start using it let me just go back i'll tell you what we we're going to take a break can you hang

00:27:21.440 over i just want to stay on delaware county for a second um we're going to take a short commercial

00:27:26.700 break we're going to return we're going to pennsylvania we're also going to go to arizona

00:27:30.400 uh steve cortez is still with us we got a lot to get through in the rest of this hour and i commit

00:27:36.160 to you they're going to get to it all short break back uh in the warm in a moment

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00:29:11.260 lock dot com promo code radio here's your host stephen k back okay athen kutzarambas joins us from

00:29:23.740 pennsylvania so i understand the audience i've got it people's heads are blowing up take a deep breath

00:29:29.460 it's the first step of a journey uh and we're going to have you back on by the way you're one

00:29:34.860 of the top analytical guys we've had you on before you're one of the top analytical guys and have been

00:29:38.580 in the commonwealth for many many years i just want to go back because time i've got to get to arizona

00:29:43.600 but athen at least for this inaugural launch i want you to go back and tell our audience how did

00:29:51.740 delaware county because let's let me be blunt unless you get delaware county back into the red

00:29:57.360 category that it needs to be right and start really having ballots and up in lucerne and northeast

00:30:03.340 up around scranton get that mess assorted we're not going to be winning pennsylvania let me just be

00:30:08.520 blunt okay you can't offset what they're doing in philadelphia right with as many votes in the in

00:30:14.380 the heartland of of pennsylvania which is fabulous and even out west and some of the trump country so

00:30:20.500 how did delaware county go from being solidly red to now kind of solidly purple or even slightly blue

00:30:30.020 how did that happen steve i could spend an hour talking about that delaware county is a suburban

00:30:35.660 county right outside of philadelphia on the western border of philadelphia it was so solidly republican

00:30:41.720 that there were books written about republican politics in delaware county there used to be jokes

00:30:47.700 that if you wanted to have your trash picked up in delaware county you needed to be registered

00:30:51.480 republican over time there was an exodus of people from philadelphia specifically moving out of west

00:30:57.920 philadelphia and into delaware county and the delaware county republican machine did their best to

00:31:03.640 explain the reason delaware county is safe the reason delaware county is prosperous is because we have

00:31:09.680 a set of republican values here and please vote for those republican values by voting for republican candidates

00:31:16.560 and the delaware county republican party was able to hold the line way longer than anybody thought that

00:31:22.420 they could have but our challenge has been is that we've got to identify candidates who have the ability

00:31:29.500 to bring the big tent and that's not about becoming a moderate that's not about becoming a rhino that is

00:31:35.880 about being a conservative and communicating it well so what's happened is that while the republican party

00:31:42.060 in delaware county still can do a great job in certain places uh the democrats have taken over

00:31:48.840 the majority of state house seats and state house seats is how you organize at the basic level in

00:31:53.980 pennsylvania and their candidates are workers they're going to knock on the doors and delaware county is a

00:31:59.760 place that's very walkable they're willing to put in the elbow grease to to do the types of changes that

00:32:05.080 they've made so it's a big deal uh we've got to find ways to compete and in bucks county where i live

00:32:10.880 we found that model it is the blue collar conservative model and we've wrapped ourselves in it

00:32:17.120 and we have a strong manufacturing base here in the lower part of our county and and we we roll with it

00:32:23.160 we the realignment of the republican party to being a workers party a populist party that flies in in

00:32:30.600 bucks county it flies throughout pennsylvania that's a message we need to bring the delaware county

00:32:35.000 just last thing how did this republican the mail-in ballot fiasco in in uh in um pennsylvania

00:32:42.500 the last thing we only got about a minute how did the republican legislature 0.94

00:32:46.540 get in back of this because 2020 and now 2022 and looking forward i mean we've got a mess in

00:32:52.560 pennsylvania we got to sort out how did a republican legislature approve that so statesmen refer to them

00:33:00.280 as agreements right they they made a trade the trade was we will make an agreement to remove

00:33:06.300 straight party voting in exchange for mail-in balloting the belief was that getting rid of

00:33:12.540 straight party voting would be able to bring more republican votes in philadelphia and the city of

00:33:18.240 pittsburgh in exchange for that we got mail-in ballots now the how do you test that theory in 2020

00:33:25.440 president trump lost pennsylvania but two republicans won statewide office that we hadn't won in nearly 20

00:33:32.820 years so there may be validation to that theory i think what the republicans who voted for this bill

00:33:39.140 never imagined was a global pandemic that would have one party adopt mail-in ballots at an incredible

00:33:46.140 rate while republicans were discouraged from using it republicans used to be the masters

00:33:51.000 at voting by mail it's also it's also as you know we're the centerpiece of president trump did not

00:33:57.200 in fact did not lose pennsylvania he won but it's because of the mail-in ballots and particularly

00:34:02.140 signature verification all of it okay athen um you've done an amazing job we want to get you back on here

00:34:08.240 because this is we got if we don't sort of pennsylvania there's not gonna i don't care who you run

00:34:13.140 in 2024 right donald trump uh our strong belief is going to be win the primary and win the presidency but

00:34:18.760 i gotta tell you this is pennsylvania's key your analysis is is is quite interesting i want to make

00:34:23.780 sure everybody were to put the twitter up how do people follow you because you're going to pick up

00:34:27.660 a lot of followers today and guess what all of them are not going to be fans okay at least at first

00:34:33.320 i can already tell from the live chat you're going to have some you're going to have some challenges

00:34:37.660 here but that's good you're you're a very tough and smart guy uh where they go to get you

00:34:42.540 i'm on twitter at athen underscore k a-t-h-a-n underscore k

00:34:49.220 athen thank you very much for coming back on the show appreciate look forward to having you back on

00:34:54.580 i want to thank alexander preate and jack basovic for tutoring me for 24 hours on how to pronounce

00:35:00.840 uh athen's name so thanks got through that one um let's go out to arizona mojave county

00:35:07.040 supervisor ron gould can we play uh can we go ahead and play the clip for us i want to introduce

00:35:12.160 ron to the clip um i vote i under duress um i found out today that i have no choice but to vote i

00:35:20.560 or i'll be arrested in charge of the felony um i don't think that that is what our founders had in

00:35:26.100 mind when they use the democratic process to elect our leaders our self former self-government i find

00:35:32.280 that very disheartening with your vote of four eyes and zero nays you've approved item 1b anything

00:35:42.020 else for the good of the order we're adjourned okay welcome back for the good of the order ron

00:35:48.980 gould if first off tell me about mojave county uh you know arizona is one of the most stunningly

00:35:53.880 beautiful states in america does tourism from all over the world people come here absolutely

00:35:58.720 jaw-dropping beauty and it's kind of this vast wilderness that's still uh arizona what tell us

00:36:05.440 about what mojave county how big is it how many folks what do you guys do tell me about the county

00:36:11.000 good morning steve mojave county is the fifth largest county in the united states um founded by

00:36:17.600 the colorado river um it is beautiful and it's a outstanding landscape um it's awesome mojave county

00:36:26.000 is pretty much of a rural county the the three main cities that are in mojave county is king

00:36:30.980 bullhead city and lake avasoo city um and it's a solid red county we vote 70 to 75 percent republican

00:36:39.180 it's it's big trump country big maga you have to be a hardy type to live in mojave county right you're

00:36:46.340 not it's people that are people that are pioneer spirit correct correct correct and you'd be amazed at

00:36:53.640 the number of trunk flags that are still flying in uh lake avasoo city in particular and uh an

00:36:59.960 expletive biden flags they're coming in a close second so so so mojave county is massive fifth

00:37:06.140 largest county in the united states of america bigger than many countries not not hugely populated

00:37:12.920 but populated by this kind of hardy uh conservative frontier type um uh you know the backbone of the

00:37:20.320 country this is the salt of the earth in this county a sir you know i've i've watched uh you

00:37:25.840 know been involved in news for i don't know 10 or 15 years now made films before that been all over

00:37:30.960 the world i don't actually ever remember and maybe it's out there and i have the audience send it to

00:37:37.100 me uh a public official stating what was stated into the microphone yesterday about to be in the

00:37:44.560 threat in a democracy being threats arrested can you walk me through what what's that about what

00:37:48.980 happened on this certification process in mojave county yeah what we were doing is called canvassing

00:37:55.420 the election which meant that we were going to accept the results from mojave county's elect not

00:38:01.080 maricopa county's election where phoenix is where they had a ton of problems um our election officials

00:38:06.620 do a solid job of running our elections our elections are fair and honest and transparent so we were

00:38:12.360 approving mojave county's canvass we had postponed the canvas till the very last day just to give

00:38:19.820 everybody more time to do their research and whatnot on any potential challenges and the attorney that

00:38:26.740 was staffing the board of supervisors meeting uh told us if we were to vote no on the canvas that we

00:38:33.860 would be subject to criminal penalties and to me that that just blew my mind if i have the ability to vote

00:38:40.640 yes or no but you're going to arrest me if i vote no that's just not how we do it here in america but

00:38:47.020 apparently it's how we're doing it now in arizona so this who was the attorney who did he who'd the

00:38:53.080 attorney represent he represent the the supervisors or he represent the state no he's the he's an attorney

00:38:59.640 for the county attorney's office and he's the representative for the board of supervisors and he was not

00:39:05.940 making a threat he was informing us of what of what we could uh be up against if we chose to not approve

00:39:13.080 the canvas the other issue with if we didn't approve the canvas then um the candidates in arizona could

00:39:21.200 not challenge the vote it's just a strange way that it lays out and then if we didn't take our votes out of

00:39:29.600 the mix this this is that you got to certify that you called a canvas you got to certify the vote

00:39:35.360 to then contest the election this is controversy with kerry lake let me ask you did you get a chance

00:39:40.840 i know monday you were in these did you get a chance to see any of the activity of citizens

00:39:45.620 testifying in front of maricopa county and what's your assessment of what happened in maricopa county

00:39:51.300 i did see that and from my statements about maricopa county i am not on the christmas card list of

00:39:58.700 any maricopa county supervisors anymore um they've done a terrible job of handling their elections for

00:40:04.820 the last three election cycles they haven't seen you would think they would learn from the first

00:40:09.480 poorly run one but they just don't seem to learn how to run an election properly i guess we need to

00:40:13.820 send some of our officials from up here down there and help them

00:40:16.840 so ron um given the fact that you guys run them transparent and uh and i realize it's a much

00:40:25.560 smaller place but you run them transparently and in fairly um is this your view is this incompetence

00:40:33.140 or is it malfeasance is this level of implosion on election day understanding that trump voters are

00:40:40.320 because of concerns they've got with the counting process and the mail-in ballot process and the

00:40:45.440 algorithms and machines everything that they they have in their mind as free citizens they come out

00:40:49.820 on game day could this just be as you've seen it incompetence or you think it's malfeasance

00:40:54.080 you know i i don't want to uh paint them with the malfeasance but they're surely incompetent

00:41:00.820 you know they should have learned how to run an election by now um you know to not have

00:41:06.680 the the correct ink in your machine to print a ballot that's just unacceptable

00:41:12.840 do you think um do you think that there's all types of you know there's going to be lawsuits

00:41:22.020 people are getting affidavits there's going to be they're going to contest the election one level

00:41:25.760 but also voters are going to start coming in now that they were disenfranchised you got this whole

00:41:30.560 situation in cochise county where they're asking katie hobbs to come and make a presentation

00:41:35.620 to actually walk them through why their voters are not disenfranchised what exactly went on

00:41:40.780 she's i think kind of refusing you've got mark elias has now stepped in here and said hey the

00:41:45.520 only presentation the supervisor is going to see is in a courtroom you know they've already he's

00:41:50.980 already representing groups that are suing the uh the uh supervisors is your sense that that voters in

00:41:59.280 maricopa county were disenfranchised and therefore mojave county was disenfranchised

00:42:05.640 we believe that mojave county voters were disenfranchised by the problems that they had

00:42:11.700 in maricopa county their mistakes are bigger than our entire county vote and i think it's

00:42:19.680 disenfranchised the rural voters across the state not to mention it disenfranchises maricopa county

00:42:26.040 voters and republican voters in particular who are more likely to cast their ballot at the poll

00:42:31.060 so any problems at the poll affect republicans more than they would affect democrats

00:42:35.600 uh could you hang through uh we're going to take a short break i just want to see if you can you

00:42:42.160 hang through for a few minutes on the other side i've also got john solomon who's going to join us

00:42:46.380 about maricopa county uh ron gold one of supervisors up in mojave county uh we're going to take a short

00:42:52.740 commercial break uh we're going to be uh joined by the great john solomon also about the history in

00:42:57.880 maricopa county of essentially incompetence voter disenfranchisement this is a massive massive

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00:45:53.480 look you you you you come across as a patriot obviously it's a it's a uh a county with the

00:46:00.180 great frontier spirit you talk about disenfranchisement what what are you guys going to do now about that

00:46:07.880 issue of disenfranchisement in this election if we were to not canvas our election they would just

00:46:15.260 remove our voters vote from the statewide tally which then uh it actually would flip to the republican

00:46:23.100 seats that we picked up statewide so it'd just add insult to injury but i've got an attorney working

00:46:28.880 on the issue of uh the interpretation that if we were to vote no on the canvas we'd be arrested

00:46:34.620 because i just think that's the wrong decision so we'll appeal that to the attorney general i need

00:46:40.660 to do that fast because we may not control the attorney general seat after the first of the year

00:46:44.920 uh ron how do people uh follow you how do they get to you because this is obviously

00:46:50.580 they're going to contest this there's going to be lawsuits flying all around i'm sure

00:46:54.540 mojave and cochise are going to play a pretty important part going forward how do people get to

00:46:59.260 you um i'm on facebook got ron gould at sitlink.net and uh they want to send me my county email is um

00:47:11.360 google.r at mojave.gov good okay we'll put it up on that we'll put it up on in all the chat rooms and

00:47:19.000 on the site ron a gould from mojave county thank you very much for joining us thanks for having me

00:47:24.040 steve have a great day merry christmas by the way thanks brother merry christmas so john solomon this

00:47:29.140 is a mess he just said that hey the voters in mojave county was disenfranchised by this madness in

00:47:35.000 maricopa you've got a great article up with your correspondent out there walk us through the

00:47:39.620 history of of maricopa county this is not just something that happened there's a history of

00:47:44.020 malfeasance and incompetence excuse me um yeah listen this is a 10-year train wreck in the making

00:47:50.400 it was a slow train wreck uh in 2012 there were so many problems that uh provisional ballots in early

00:47:56.980 ballots took weeks to count and back at that time the local media were outraged in fact they i think

00:48:02.660 it was arizona republic it called arizona nationally disgraced by its performance in elections in 2014

00:48:08.100 similar things happened in 2016 they made changes and the lines were so long that the obama justice

00:48:14.340 department sent a letter saying they were concerned about what maricopa county was doing

00:48:18.120 2018 more long delays in voting counts and of course 2020 the arizona senate came back and found

00:48:24.240 all sorts of irregularities including 5 000 voters they believe voted in maricopa county and at least

00:48:30.020 one other county so potential double voting many other uh ballots called into question 50 000 i think

00:48:36.140 across the state um this has been an issue that uh the local leadership have continually kicked down

00:48:42.540 the line they have not been able to count votes effectively uh sometimes it's machines sometimes

00:48:47.740 it's equipment sometimes it's provisional ballots but the system has been broken for a long time

00:48:53.100 in maricopa county and it was the obama doj and the mainstream media originally concerned until

00:48:58.860 republicans started complaining and then of course uh it became election denialism to raise the same

00:49:03.820 questions but this is a county that has had long problems with counting votes and that's why there's

00:49:09.940 so much distrust in arizona over the largest county and its election system look they've disenfranchised

00:49:16.760 the rest of the state they disenfranchised their own voters you saw the other day this public

00:49:22.780 denunciation it was a denunciation across the board uh they they've got this technical thing that you've

00:49:28.940 and they just the judge ruled last night in the abe hamaday situation that you've got to wait till

00:49:33.080 it's all certified to go to actually contest it but this is going to start to get not just heated up

00:49:39.100 it's going to start to get crazy because of their performance um tell me how you think this is going

00:49:44.600 to play it i know you guys have people on the ground and you're very close to this walk me through the

00:49:48.180 john solomon analysis yeah listen i think there's multiple scenarios the first is abe hamaday's lawsuit

00:49:53.880 will get refiled uh when uh the certification is made by the state the courts will then look at it

00:50:00.860 and see whether there's any merit to it and whether uh there's a remedy if there is merit to it uh carrie

00:50:07.100 lake was on the show last night i know she was on with you yesterday uh she's preparing legislation

00:50:10.940 as well to come out once the certification is she claims she has whistleblowers let's see what that 1.00

00:50:16.180 evidence is in order to prevail in the courts according to our legal experts the candidates are going to

00:50:21.320 have to show there are enough um ballots in dispute of voters who voted for them that either aren't

00:50:26.560 counted or didn't get properly counted or were turned away to overturn the election that's a high

00:50:31.740 threshold uh a lot less for abe hamaday because he's 800 votes it's several thousand votes for carrie

00:50:37.540 lake so you got to understand the level of high threshold the long-term question is will any of

00:50:42.080 this litigation prompt this county with 10 years of crisis and problems to actually fix itself so that

00:50:48.240 we don't go through another election i think that's the third scenario we have to watch right

00:50:52.400 now the county's doubling down thinking what it did was fine but you look at the history most

00:50:57.940 arizona voters don't think what maricopa county has done is fine you should be able to walk into

00:51:01.760 maricopa county bahava county or whatever county in arizona and be treated the same way all voters

00:51:06.980 are supposed to have equal protection under the constitution maricopa county has a decade-long history

00:51:12.340 of not meeting that standard look for 2024 and going forward first off there's a huge fight

00:51:18.800 taking place now carrie lake there's no chance that hobbes won this impossible she's got a big 1.00

00:51:23.680 article in the the republic today didn't even run a campaign didn't run a campaign this has got to be

00:51:29.400 sorted here that's why it's a national crisis but people have to understand people run around ronda

00:51:34.380 santa's donald trump 2024 hey unless we get pennsylvania and arizona sorted and i mean sorted that this

00:51:40.340 can't happen again not so sure you can pull it off john solomon uh where do people get to you for

00:51:45.960 your great show your website and you personally well i follow you every night at five o'clock six

00:51:51.480 o'clock right here on real america's voice just the news no noise and on social media jay solomon

00:51:55.540 reports and of course just the news.com that's where we have all of our news john solomon thank you

00:52:00.760 very much a great piece we got up on the fiasco in maricopa county thanks steve absolute absolute

00:52:08.480 disgrace absolute disgrace but people have to understand carrie lake and her team are at the

00:52:14.180 ramparts so this is going to be a tough one it's going to be a nasty one short commercial break back

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Bannon's War Room - November 30, 2022

Episode 2338： Breaking Down Voter Fraud; The Threats In Mohave County

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