Bannon's War Room - November 30, 2022


Episode 2338: Breaking Down Voter Fraud; The Threats In Mohave County


Episode Stats

Length

55 minutes

Words per Minute

180.55127

Word Count

9,950

Sentence Count

26

Misogynist Sentences

4

Hate Speech Sentences

2


Summary

In this episode of the Wall Street Journal's newest podcast, we discuss the collapse of the U.S. housing market, the political situation in Pennsylvania, the impending recession, and the collapse in China and Russia. We also discuss the latest jobs report from ADP, the yield curve inverted, and much more!


Transcript

00:00:00.000 this is the final scream of a dying regime pray for our enemies because we're going with evil on
00:00:10.780 these people you're just not got a free shot all these networks lying about the people the people
00:00:17.220 had a belly full of it i know you don't like hearing that i know you've tried to do everything
00:00:21.140 in the world to stop that but you're not going to stop it it's going to happen and where do people
00:00:24.720 like that go to share the big line mega media i wish in my soul i wish that any of these people
00:00:32.540 had a conscience ask yourself what is my task and what is my purpose if that answer is to save my
00:00:40.480 country this country will be saved war here's your host stephen k bannett it's wednesday 30 november
00:00:50.800 the year of our lord 2022 we've got capital markets geopolitics the politics of pennsylvania
00:00:56.380 arizona ballot harvesting uh the coercive nature of the process out in arizona all of it plus we're
00:01:04.900 going to get to ukraine russia china what's happening in beijing and brazil on the next two hours so
00:01:11.220 strap in i want to start with steve cortez we're gonna go to georgia john ferguson join us in a
00:01:16.560 moment uh we've got a brain analysis of ballot harvesting in delaware county that did not certify
00:01:22.040 their election uh in pennsylvania commonwealth of pennsylvania we're gonna go to arizona uh with the
00:01:27.240 officials out there that are saying they're being coerced to into um certifying the election so we've
00:01:33.500 got a lot of a lot of wood to chop and some quite controversial topics to address cortez um the wall
00:01:40.500 street journal want to really give a hat tip to the wall street journal and to uh rupert murdoch and that
00:01:45.840 crack team they finally caught up with the uh the war room six months later in particular i think
00:01:50.460 that i think they're so upset that we focused we featured yesterday so treasury yield curve inverts
00:01:56.780 to deepest level since 1981 right and yesterday a couple people were wanting to mean that is it hey
00:02:04.160 it's a little dry start with cortez going through the thing and but overwhelmingly the audience loved
00:02:08.700 it because they know it's going to impact their life right walk me through walk me through the wall
00:02:12.540 street journal catching up with this and of course ladies and gentlemen we told you this is all going
00:02:17.040 to start to manifest itself into numbers in employment and wages and all of it and surprise
00:02:23.140 surprise who would have thunk it steve cortez it is take it away sir no it's it's starting to happen
00:02:29.260 regarding the wall street journal steve imitation is the sincerest form of flattery so welcome to the
00:02:35.180 party wall street journal you're extremely late but better late than never we've of course been
00:02:39.360 talking about the yield curve for many many months and what a foreboding sign it is the u.s first now
00:02:44.640 the global yield curve inverted i also want to get ahead of the curve for the audience here and let
00:02:48.800 them know not just the yield curve but ahead of the curve of the news flow and information and
00:02:52.980 economics to tell them that inflation is still a really important story but it's transitioning now
00:02:58.740 into the recession that the inflation has caused and so i think we should shift our thinking
00:03:04.460 inflation still matters but the looming recession and particularly looming job losses are going to
00:03:09.820 matter more in the coming months so just as we were ahead talking about the inflation that would
00:03:15.080 explode because of biden's policies and we were very early on that i think we can be early as well
00:03:19.540 on talking about the deepening recession and the massive looming job losses that are going to unfold
00:03:25.420 and this again not just my opinion we got two data points overnight which were really foreboding the
00:03:30.180 first one we'll talk more about this later in the show out of china china pmi purchasing managers
00:03:35.640 index both on the manufacturing and the services side in recessionary contraction territory below 50
00:03:42.660 both of them were very very big misses the combination of a weak u.s consumer on this side of the pacific
00:03:49.300 and the zero covid tyranny on their side of the pacific have resulted in a chinese economy that is
00:03:55.560 crashing into the ditch but the problems aren't of course contained to china here in the united states
00:03:59.700 this morning we got really bad jobs news out on the adp private payrolls number we can show it
00:04:06.660 please on chart number one because again i like data and evidence not just sloganeering if we look at
00:04:12.740 this chart that goes back to the beginning of the biden term this is private payrolls from adp it was a
00:04:18.840 massive miss out this morning as you can see like so many economic metrics biden was given a great
00:04:25.100 handoff from donald trump look at that up arrow in the first several months of the biden regime's
00:04:30.740 term in office the handoff from the trump boom 2.0 was magnificent we had an economy that was
00:04:36.140 aggressively reopening without inflation but biden quickly squandered that wonderful inheritance and it
00:04:42.860 has been a downward trajectory ever since and the worst detail of this report out this morning
00:04:48.200 manufacturing manufacturing manufacturing manufacturing jobs down 100 000 positions 100 000 workers for
00:04:56.140 the month so that this is these are the consequences of the inflation that joe biden has wrought the
00:05:02.240 inflation has tipped the economy because of higher interest rates of the inflation produced has tipped the
00:05:07.140 economy into a significant recession and one that is now producing real job losses tangible job losses for the
00:05:14.660 american people okay i want to go back because these are high value added jobs also in the adp report
00:05:20.840 the day report also wages or is this the 20th month or the 21st month that we still have
00:05:26.260 a negative real wage growth or is adp not cover that because i saw some wage
00:05:31.860 yeah they do now typically when i talk about the consecutive i rely on the cpi report but yes this also
00:05:37.960 certainly points to a 20th consecutive month for now i'm going to stick with 19 which is terrible enough i got
00:05:43.460 uh 19 consecutive but as an indicator but as an indicator they're giving the indication when the
00:05:49.340 cbi comes out that'll be this will be the 20th month my point is wages are not keeping up and now
00:05:55.480 you get the double whammy which we said was going to happen when the biden was given all the happy
00:05:59.980 talk and they run up to the midterms you know tightest job market in history tightest job market in
00:06:05.160 history a lot of that's because people work in two two and three jobs right to make sure that they can
00:06:10.740 put food on the table not run up any more credit card debt i want to go back to the manufacturing
00:06:15.320 jobs and this is key to pennsylvania and all the upper middle what these this is the heart of the
00:06:21.080 nation of these manufacturing jobs these are these are higher value added they're not service jobs this
00:06:26.820 is the type of thing that you can support a family on or attempt to support a family in this day in time
00:06:31.160 of inflation how big a deal is this oh listen i mean it's massive and and you're right these are
00:06:36.700 high income family sustaining jobs uh when you combine that loss in manufacturing with with what
00:06:42.580 we've already seen in tech over 120 000 jobs lost in tech this year also high uh salary jobs high value
00:06:51.140 add positions for the american economy uh this is unfortunately a trend that is only beginning and
00:06:57.180 here's the thing too i wrote a new article about this which the audience can find on my sub stack if
00:07:01.120 they care to read the details i do believe that inflation may have peaked now importantly that doesn't
00:07:06.060 mean that inflation is going to get better right it means it's just going to be less bad less severe in
00:07:11.040 terms of inflation but if it has indeed peaked steve it has only peaked for the worst of all reasons
00:07:16.960 because we have such a deepening recession and we're going to have such severe job losses that it is going
00:07:22.560 to be a restraining force on prices prices are going to remain very high very elevated but they're not
00:07:27.500 going to continue at the upward trajectory they had before but again not for the right reasons for all the
00:07:32.860 wrong reasons the inflation has now caused the recession has caused the beginning of massive job
00:07:38.080 losses which in turn will cause inflation to at least temper a bit from here but again this is this
00:07:43.660 is by no means good news for the american economy let's go to uh also i want to show a little ankle on
00:07:50.420 today obviously the the fed the big day for the fed uh what do you anticipate because listen they're
00:07:56.280 trying to choke down the inflation this is both monetary and fiscal policy trying to get coordinated
00:08:01.980 right the fiscal madness when we say fiscal this is the spending and right now in capitol hill you
00:08:08.560 have this huge battle and mitch mcconnell said yesterday oh i'm going to work with the democrats
00:08:12.400 to get an omnibus we need to put this to bed and not just have a continued resolution kicks into the
00:08:17.880 year when we actually have total control in the house um you see and actually kevin mccarthy yesterday
00:08:23.960 very disappointing i remember it was congressman norman from south carolina said hey i asked him
00:08:29.280 does he support this balanced budget in seven years said no he doesn't mccarthy yesterday i think
00:08:34.400 showed the cards you know he's been having a good run trying to show conservatives in the house
00:08:38.500 freedom caucus and particularly this audience that he's going to be tough but he said he he threw in
00:08:43.520 with the omnibus right that means he doesn't want to have tough votes in the beginning of the year we
00:08:47.600 need tough votes we need to force the biden administration to the table to be actually get
00:08:52.920 to control the spending because the spending is what put put uh through um jet fuel onto this
00:08:59.620 burning dumpster fire right right and and that's one of the biggest reasons so the fed today walk
00:09:05.240 through the apparatchik pow uh today what is he going to do and by the way that's what powell is you know
00:09:12.220 look unfortunately powell is exhibit a among a lot of bad exhibits of the failure of the supposed
00:09:19.240 experts of the credentialed class of permanent washington uh who have great cvs they have great
00:09:24.400 resumes but they actually have no real knowledge of their area of supposed expertise in this case the
00:09:29.500 economy from jerome powell jerome powell is a washington dc lifer born and raised there he is a
00:09:34.620 lawyer by trade he has never worked in financial markets he did a stint at carlisle in the private
00:09:39.800 equity world but the reality is only in a town like washington dc could somebody as untalented and
00:09:45.980 unremarkable as jerome powell become as powerful as he has become he's speaking this afternoon 1 30 p.m
00:09:52.180 eastern time i expect him to mostly strike a hawkish tone meaning that insisting that the fed needs to
00:09:59.120 continue to raise interest rates the reason i say that is his colleagues on the federal reserve uh board
00:10:03.980 the fomc that determines interest rates they have been incredibly blunt and hawkish particularly bullard
00:10:09.700 who over the weekend warned financial markets that they are actually underpricing the risks of the fed
00:10:15.120 being incredibly aggressive so i think the fed has finally found religion on inflation an inflation
00:10:20.480 crisis that it's itself helped to create it deserves a a massive portion of the blame for this along
00:10:26.860 with a profligate congress and then the democrat party um but look powell i will i will tell you this
00:10:32.720 harry truman uh steve used to say that he wanted a one-arm economist because he was sick of economists
00:10:37.580 saying on the one hand on the other hand okay powell is the master of that he'll give us a lot of on the
00:10:42.320 one hand on the other hand this afternoon but on balance it will be more hawkish than not because
00:10:47.480 the fed realizes finally at last the gravity of the crisis that they themselves helped to create
00:10:53.660 okay steve you're gonna hang around with me for the first hour so we got a lot to go through i want
00:10:58.800 to go let's go to john fredericks we have him up in georgia we don't okay fine if we don't okay fine
00:11:05.640 let's go to john fredericks john you're on the uh you're on the uh the the bus down in georgia
00:11:11.660 is uh if herschel walker wins this people have to understand the gravity of the situation you get a
00:11:16.580 power sharing deal at 50 50 which is radically different than if you got uh 51 49 also if you
00:11:24.100 get 50 50 who knows maybe you talk mansion and one of these guys in the flipping that don't want to
00:11:29.060 get uh you know don't want to lose the 2024 race where do we stand with herschel walker
00:11:34.360 well the other thing steven you nailed it people saying well it doesn't matter the democrats have
00:11:40.620 control it matters a lot you're right 50 50 power share share big difference on the committees
00:11:45.260 and you mentioned joe mansion even if he doesn't flip if you're 50 50 you know mansion's up in 24
00:11:51.580 west virginia trump got what 75 of the vote there he's got nowhere to hide at 51 49 he can have show
00:11:59.240 votes go with us 50 times it doesn't matter because harris breaks the tie right so it also
00:12:06.300 makes joe mansion has to man up and give real votes in real time so that's the other thing and the third
00:12:13.620 thing is it's one less seat obviously we have to win to get control in 24 but look uh going into
00:12:19.680 wednesday today herschel's behind my estimates by about 200 000 votes the good news is we you know
00:12:26.300 we're out here on the bus door all we're interested now is ballots i'm in the ballot business i got out
00:12:32.300 of the voting business after november 8th i'm out of the convincing business the narrative business i'm
00:12:38.420 i'm in the i'm in the ballot business i just want to put ballots in boxes that's how they win that's
00:12:43.220 how we're gonna win uh walker had a great two days monday and tuesday getting early ballots in
00:12:49.140 in uh republican areas we had record turnout so he's cutting into that deficit but what really hurt him
00:12:55.860 here is the steve the incompetence of the republican national committee is beyond the pale you can't
00:13:02.640 make this up if i submitted this movie script to you when you were a director and producer you would
00:13:09.060 have sent it back to me and said fredericks i can't even do this it's so stupid nobody would believe it
00:13:13.840 so what the democrats what the republicans did the democrats wanted to start early voting here
00:13:19.320 a week ago wednesday the republicans wanted to start it on monday the democrats also wanted early
00:13:24.760 voting on saturday so the republicans file suit they don't want to do it a judge rules in the
00:13:29.760 democrats favor then the republicans turn around at the rnc with their loser lawyers and they file a
00:13:37.080 number of appeals well this goes on for two weeks finally a judge rules in the democrats favor but the
00:13:45.200 republicans had no contingent contingency plan so starting on wednesday last week wednesday and saturday
00:13:53.080 right and then he had thursday and friday to set this up so they had a four-day head start all the
00:13:59.040 major democrat counties were open for early voting and none of the republicans were because they didn't
00:14:06.840 have the staff they didn't have a contingency plan they didn't set anything up they had nothing so
00:14:11.800 they didn't start early voting until monday so warnock got this humongous start on saturday
00:14:19.020 there were three-hour lines in his biggest counties steve and so that's how warnock now
00:14:25.960 has a major lead because ron or romney mcdaniel once again screwed it up and here we are playing
00:14:32.420 catch up hang on for one second we're gonna go back to georgia with john frederick's we've got a
00:14:37.940 very special guest that's going to walk us through the ballot business as john frederick calls it in the
00:14:43.260 commonwealth of pennsylvania we're gonna go to arizona we've got breaking news out of arizona
00:14:48.600 and uh we've got steve cortez we're packed this morning georgia and pennsylvania next in the world
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00:16:07.400 black community the destruction of strong black men in the family first they passed laws to lock
00:16:13.860 up our fathers and brothers and now the democrat party is coming for your kids democrat senator rafael
00:16:20.140 walnot supports the feminization and sexualization of your sons do you want the democrats to turn your boy
00:16:25.980 into a girl on december 6 stop rafael walnot from creeping on your kids okay that's some of these
00:16:33.280 tough ads that laura loomer and her group are putting up in georgia very tough but this is we're beyond
00:16:38.640 policy on this right now fredericks i think you're this is all about this is pure political muscle who's
00:16:44.800 going to turn out votes via ground game i don't think it's about ads right it's about ground game
00:16:50.740 and my understanding is that the kemp uh governor kemp supposedly has the greatest turnout machine
00:16:56.380 finely tuned in georgia history you saw part of that in the beatdown of stacy abrams by what eight
00:17:03.560 nine points um and supposedly that was that was part of this massive mitch mcconnell carl rove
00:17:10.100 money raise was to rent that and use it as a stand-up operation this is all about get out the vote
00:17:16.660 we got to pull another youngkin where maga has to turn out massively uh for walker to win and walker
00:17:23.400 must win we got to get to a 50 50 senate to get leverage remember the word leverage we got leverage
00:17:28.580 in the house we need leverage in the senate tell me about the ground game do you see it is it happening
00:17:34.200 and how does john fredericks in the war room help well listen the best thing that we can do is what
00:17:40.820 we're doing right now on our bus store go to magabusstore.com we're in early voting areas in the
00:17:45.940 biggest areas that we have to get trump voters out because you know the bottom line is 200 000 people
00:17:51.600 voted for kemp for kemp in november 8th didn't vote for herschel for whatever reason that that number
00:17:57.420 is real and we have to deal with that so look here's the good news um our message is resonating
00:18:03.300 of get out and vote and vote early and get your vote in now i think people understand that uh they
00:18:08.520 have to get out and vote so walker's had a great two days monday and tuesday were phenomenal with record
00:18:13.660 numbers of people turning out in red areas so we're very encouraged by that but look we we're in a big hole
00:18:19.740 and we have to understand we can't wait till game day if we do we're going to get beat again it's
00:18:24.440 not even going to be close we got to get these early votes in so anybody that's out there right
00:18:29.100 now you have a friend you have a family member in georgia get them out get them out today get them
00:18:33.340 out thursday get them up right don't wait till tuesday too many things happen on friday at 5 p.m
00:18:38.220 it's done no more early voting and then you know you gotta have the the the mail-out ballots coming in
00:18:43.960 we have to deal with that and we have to have the game day turnout but everybody that votes early is a
00:18:48.700 phone call that the republican party doesn't have to make on game day to get you out to vote
00:18:53.180 that's really what the key is we're in that we're in the ballot business i'm going to say it again
00:18:56.780 because we really have to understand the business we're in get the ballots in put them in a dropbox
00:19:01.840 that's what we have to do in order to pull this out we're behind it's winnable uh but we're closing
00:19:07.360 and it's a muscle by the way two days you sound like the godfather muscle the business we've chose this
00:19:12.700 is the business we've chosen john frederich real quickly how do they how they get to you on social media
00:19:16.800 how they follow the bus non-stop go to megabusstore.com come out sign the bus we get big crowds
00:19:24.760 wherever you do sign the bus get your ballot in sign the bus and vote sign the bus and vote that's
00:19:28.880 all we ask go to megabusstore.com you want to help us out with a donation we always appreciate that
00:19:34.640 this thing is on a string so uh we need all the help that we can get also you can follow me on social
00:19:39.880 media at jf radio show at jf radio show cory lewandowski interesting today gets on my show
00:19:45.940 on um rav and uh came pretty close to announcing a run for chair of the rnc the more candidates we get
00:19:54.700 in mike lindell lewandowski the better we need change at the rnc steve the incompetence there is
00:20:01.840 like if she was in a public company ron mcdonald ram today they would bring in security with a box
00:20:10.600 put her pictures in and escort her out and throw her on an uber that's how bad this thing is they
00:20:16.580 are so incompetent beyond the pale we need change my strong my strong recommendation to cory who's a
00:20:21.380 great guy sort yourself out first before you try to sort the orange say but it's a free country anybody
00:20:26.780 can run john fredericks thank you very much for my morning laughter thank you sir okay i want to go
00:20:32.880 talk john fredericks says hey i'm in the ballot business not the vote business i want to go to
00:20:38.120 athan uh kutsarombas in pennsylvania one of the smartest analytical guys had him on the show before
00:20:43.860 uh athan uh you've you've written this twitter feed i don't know if you put it into an article but
00:20:49.640 you wrote a twitter uh thread yesterday about delaware county now correct me if i'm wrong has
00:20:54.660 delaware county certified the vote in the commonwealth of pennsylvania by the recent election
00:20:59.260 or are they hesitating about it what's the status of actually the certification
00:21:02.520 luzerne county in northeast pennsylvania that is the county that has yet to certify because
00:21:08.540 on election day they ran out of ballots and thousands of voters were turned away
00:21:13.420 so how did that how did that happen had luzerne was the centerpiece the center of this huge fight
00:21:20.280 how did they run out of ballots uh it's steve i wish i knew you know that is ground zero for
00:21:26.000 mega country that is where the trump democrats live um and they just flat out ran out of ballots
00:21:31.320 it's hard to come up with an excuse for that so talk to us about your your twitter thread i want to
00:21:37.420 talk about this whole issue of early ballots mail-in ballots ballot harvesting etc walk us through
00:21:42.400 your analysis of this because pennsylvania is still the key that picks the lock and we have massive
00:21:47.600 problems out in arizona but walk me through your analysis of pennsylvania i like a lot of people
00:21:52.680 steve was pretty bullish on pennsylvania's midterm in november uh the reason i was was because you look
00:21:58.840 at the national environment and you say wow how can anybody vote for two more years of this but what
00:22:04.040 also got me uh optimistic was looking at the mail-in ballot returns across pennsylvania and i saw that
00:22:11.080 the democrats were underperforming their anticipated mail-in ballot returns and i said okay the
00:22:17.380 democrats have have a depressed turnout as well ultimately things didn't go the right way in
00:22:22.520 pennsylvania and the reason was because republicans didn't vote but what i wanted to do was prove a
00:22:28.840 point with how the democrats do mail-in balloting across pennsylvania to show that we can beat them
00:22:35.660 at their own game and on top of that pennsylvania is still a purple state and mail-in ballots is not the
00:22:42.080 reason pennsylvania went blue this past midterm so walk me through that walk me through how they do
00:22:48.120 a better how we can do a better why that why we didn't lose because of that yeah so what i did was
00:22:54.020 i took every single democratic voter in pennsylvania who applied to vote by mail and who also returned
00:23:00.220 their ballot i did it in all 67 of pennsylvania's counties and then i plotted it on a chart just because
00:23:07.640 i wanted to see how do people apply and how do they return their ballots in 66 of pennsylvania's 67
00:23:14.980 counties there was a clear trend two-thirds of democrats apply to vote by mail in the spring
00:23:21.060 and one-third of democrats apply to vote by mail in the fall the reason it breaks down like that is
00:23:27.500 because the pennsylvania mail-in ballot law mandates that each of pennsylvania's counties send a mailing
00:23:34.760 to prior mail-in voters asking if they want to do it again so you've got close to a million democrats
00:23:41.540 received a taxpayer paid for mailing asking them do you want to vote by mail again and a whole bunch of
00:23:48.200 them said yeah i'd like to do that what the democrats did is they would then chase that taxpayer mailer
00:23:54.100 with a text a robocall a digital ad so two-thirds come during the spring the remaining third of
00:24:02.460 applications come during the fall and that's just because it's the fever pitch of the campaigns and
00:24:07.040 voters are saying i want to vote by mail but there was one county that stood out and that county was
00:24:13.300 delaware county which was a prior republican stronghold in suburban philadelphia and today it's
00:24:19.540 part of the democratic base what made them so unique is that of these 67 counties in pennsylvania
00:24:26.640 66 of them had almost no activity throughout the summer however in delaware county they saw the
00:24:34.280 majority of their applications happen during the summer and you have to ask yourself why the first
00:24:40.560 thing you want to do is try to establish was there any fraud steve there is no evidence of any fraud
00:24:46.600 that i've seen in delaware county in order to commit mail and ballot fraud you can do it in two places
00:24:52.420 number one is that when you apply to vote by mail you have to provide either your social security or
00:24:59.420 driver's license number now we don't have voter id when you walk into a poll in pennsylvania but you
00:25:05.340 need voter id to vote by mail so you need someone that builds a list somehow steals a whole bunch of
00:25:12.500 driver's license numbers submits an application without a voter's knowledge and then completes them
00:25:17.760 that didn't happen the second way you can have fraud is if there's some type of conspiracy in a
00:25:23.720 courthouse to not count ballots i've seen no evidence of that in delaware county ultimately what
00:25:29.760 the democrats did is exactly what republicans used to do prior to the pandemic we used to have
00:25:35.900 coordinated campaigns to get republicans to vote by mail the way we did that is we mailed everybody
00:25:42.380 an application and we would chase it with a phone call what the democrats did is their candidates at
00:25:48.840 the state house level and elsewhere would go to door to door and carry an application with them
00:25:54.340 and say please fill out this application to vote and mail it in there's nothing wrong with that that's
00:26:00.360 just great get out the vote efforts that we've gotten away from in pennsylvania for the past two years
00:26:05.760 and we need to get back to basics if we do that hang on you say there's no fraud because i know
00:26:11.720 there's a big controversy in delaware county we're going to try to get some of these folks on tonight
00:26:15.280 to go through it you say you need a social security number and a or a driver's license number how do
00:26:24.220 you know that there is no voter fraud and i want to talk about the signature verification on that but
00:26:29.060 just on the application itself you're saying you would either have to get a huge grunge of social
00:26:34.680 security numbers or driver's licenses in order to effectuate the fraud at that level
00:26:39.760 steve 100 unless somebody somehow finds a way to tap into the pennsylvania department of
00:26:46.820 transportation database to steal thousands of driver's license numbers they're just not going
00:26:51.800 to be able to pull it off and each county is mandated to check that number on the application
00:26:57.480 against the database in pennsylvania or else that that person can't vote by mail it's that simple it's
00:27:02.740 it's baked in voter id that republicans have been begging for in pennsylvania for years and voter
00:27:09.260 id is an 80 20 issue in pennsylvania we have it today with mail-in ballots and republicans need
00:27:15.820 to start using it let me just go back i'll tell you what we we're going to take a break can you hang
00:27:21.440 over i just want to stay on delaware county for a second um we're going to take a short commercial
00:27:26.700 break we're going to return we're going to pennsylvania we're also going to go to arizona
00:27:30.400 uh steve cortez is still with us we got a lot to get through in the rest of this hour and i commit
00:27:36.160 to you they're going to get to it all short break back uh in the warm in a moment
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00:29:11.260 lock dot com promo code radio here's your host stephen k back okay athen kutzarambas joins us from
00:29:23.740 pennsylvania so i understand the audience i've got it people's heads are blowing up take a deep breath
00:29:29.460 it's the first step of a journey uh and we're going to have you back on by the way you're one
00:29:34.860 of the top analytical guys we've had you on before you're one of the top analytical guys and have been
00:29:38.580 in the commonwealth for many many years i just want to go back because time i've got to get to arizona
00:29:43.600 but athen at least for this inaugural launch i want you to go back and tell our audience how did
00:29:51.740 delaware county because let's let me be blunt unless you get delaware county back into the red
00:29:57.360 category that it needs to be right and start really having ballots and up in lucerne and northeast
00:30:03.340 up around scranton get that mess assorted we're not going to be winning pennsylvania let me just be
00:30:08.520 blunt okay you can't offset what they're doing in philadelphia right with as many votes in the in
00:30:14.380 the heartland of of pennsylvania which is fabulous and even out west and some of the trump country so
00:30:20.500 how did delaware county go from being solidly red to now kind of solidly purple or even slightly blue
00:30:30.020 how did that happen steve i could spend an hour talking about that delaware county is a suburban
00:30:35.660 county right outside of philadelphia on the western border of philadelphia it was so solidly republican
00:30:41.720 that there were books written about republican politics in delaware county there used to be jokes
00:30:47.700 that if you wanted to have your trash picked up in delaware county you needed to be registered
00:30:51.480 republican over time there was an exodus of people from philadelphia specifically moving out of west
00:30:57.920 philadelphia and into delaware county and the delaware county republican machine did their best to
00:31:03.640 explain the reason delaware county is safe the reason delaware county is prosperous is because we have
00:31:09.680 a set of republican values here and please vote for those republican values by voting for republican candidates
00:31:16.560 and the delaware county republican party was able to hold the line way longer than anybody thought that
00:31:22.420 they could have but our challenge has been is that we've got to identify candidates who have the ability
00:31:29.500 to bring the big tent and that's not about becoming a moderate that's not about becoming a rhino that is
00:31:35.880 about being a conservative and communicating it well so what's happened is that while the republican party
00:31:42.060 in delaware county still can do a great job in certain places uh the democrats have taken over
00:31:48.840 the majority of state house seats and state house seats is how you organize at the basic level in
00:31:53.980 pennsylvania and their candidates are workers they're going to knock on the doors and delaware county is a
00:31:59.760 place that's very walkable they're willing to put in the elbow grease to to do the types of changes that
00:32:05.080 they've made so it's a big deal uh we've got to find ways to compete and in bucks county where i live
00:32:10.880 we found that model it is the blue collar conservative model and we've wrapped ourselves in it
00:32:17.120 and we have a strong manufacturing base here in the lower part of our county and and we we roll with it
00:32:23.160 we the realignment of the republican party to being a workers party a populist party that flies in in
00:32:30.600 bucks county it flies throughout pennsylvania that's a message we need to bring the delaware county
00:32:35.000 just last thing how did this republican the mail-in ballot fiasco in in uh in um pennsylvania
00:32:42.500 the last thing we only got about a minute how did the republican legislature
00:32:46.540 get in back of this because 2020 and now 2022 and looking forward i mean we've got a mess in
00:32:52.560 pennsylvania we got to sort out how did a republican legislature approve that so statesmen refer to them
00:33:00.280 as agreements right they they made a trade the trade was we will make an agreement to remove
00:33:06.300 straight party voting in exchange for mail-in balloting the belief was that getting rid of
00:33:12.540 straight party voting would be able to bring more republican votes in philadelphia and the city of
00:33:18.240 pittsburgh in exchange for that we got mail-in ballots now the how do you test that theory in 2020
00:33:25.440 president trump lost pennsylvania but two republicans won statewide office that we hadn't won in nearly 20
00:33:32.820 years so there may be validation to that theory i think what the republicans who voted for this bill
00:33:39.140 never imagined was a global pandemic that would have one party adopt mail-in ballots at an incredible
00:33:46.140 rate while republicans were discouraged from using it republicans used to be the masters
00:33:51.000 at voting by mail it's also it's also as you know we're the centerpiece of president trump did not
00:33:57.200 in fact did not lose pennsylvania he won but it's because of the mail-in ballots and particularly
00:34:02.140 signature verification all of it okay athen um you've done an amazing job we want to get you back on here
00:34:08.240 because this is we got if we don't sort of pennsylvania there's not gonna i don't care who you run
00:34:13.140 in 2024 right donald trump uh our strong belief is going to be win the primary and win the presidency but
00:34:18.760 i gotta tell you this is pennsylvania's key your analysis is is is quite interesting i want to make
00:34:23.780 sure everybody were to put the twitter up how do people follow you because you're going to pick up
00:34:27.660 a lot of followers today and guess what all of them are not going to be fans okay at least at first
00:34:33.320 i can already tell from the live chat you're going to have some you're going to have some challenges
00:34:37.660 here but that's good you're you're a very tough and smart guy uh where they go to get you
00:34:42.540 i'm on twitter at athen underscore k a-t-h-a-n underscore k
00:34:49.220 athen thank you very much for coming back on the show appreciate look forward to having you back on
00:34:54.580 i want to thank alexander preate and jack basovic for tutoring me for 24 hours on how to pronounce
00:35:00.840 uh athen's name so thanks got through that one um let's go out to arizona mojave county
00:35:07.040 supervisor ron gould can we play uh can we go ahead and play the clip for us i want to introduce
00:35:12.160 ron to the clip um i vote i under duress um i found out today that i have no choice but to vote i
00:35:20.560 or i'll be arrested in charge of the felony um i don't think that that is what our founders had in
00:35:26.100 mind when they use the democratic process to elect our leaders our self former self-government i find
00:35:32.280 that very disheartening with your vote of four eyes and zero nays you've approved item 1b anything
00:35:42.020 else for the good of the order we're adjourned okay welcome back for the good of the order ron
00:35:48.980 gould if first off tell me about mojave county uh you know arizona is one of the most stunningly
00:35:53.880 beautiful states in america does tourism from all over the world people come here absolutely
00:35:58.720 jaw-dropping beauty and it's kind of this vast wilderness that's still uh arizona what tell us
00:36:05.440 about what mojave county how big is it how many folks what do you guys do tell me about the county
00:36:11.000 good morning steve mojave county is the fifth largest county in the united states um founded by
00:36:17.600 the colorado river um it is beautiful and it's a outstanding landscape um it's awesome mojave county
00:36:26.000 is pretty much of a rural county the the three main cities that are in mojave county is king
00:36:30.980 bullhead city and lake avasoo city um and it's a solid red county we vote 70 to 75 percent republican
00:36:39.180 it's it's big trump country big maga you have to be a hardy type to live in mojave county right you're
00:36:46.340 not it's people that are people that are pioneer spirit correct correct correct and you'd be amazed at
00:36:53.640 the number of trunk flags that are still flying in uh lake avasoo city in particular and uh an
00:36:59.960 expletive biden flags they're coming in a close second so so so mojave county is massive fifth
00:37:06.140 largest county in the united states of america bigger than many countries not not hugely populated
00:37:12.920 but populated by this kind of hardy uh conservative frontier type um uh you know the backbone of the
00:37:20.320 country this is the salt of the earth in this county a sir you know i've i've watched uh you
00:37:25.840 know been involved in news for i don't know 10 or 15 years now made films before that been all over
00:37:30.960 the world i don't actually ever remember and maybe it's out there and i have the audience send it to
00:37:37.100 me uh a public official stating what was stated into the microphone yesterday about to be in the
00:37:44.560 threat in a democracy being threats arrested can you walk me through what what's that about what
00:37:48.980 happened on this certification process in mojave county yeah what we were doing is called canvassing
00:37:55.420 the election which meant that we were going to accept the results from mojave county's elect not
00:38:01.080 maricopa county's election where phoenix is where they had a ton of problems um our election officials
00:38:06.620 do a solid job of running our elections our elections are fair and honest and transparent so we were
00:38:12.360 approving mojave county's canvass we had postponed the canvas till the very last day just to give
00:38:19.820 everybody more time to do their research and whatnot on any potential challenges and the attorney that
00:38:26.740 was staffing the board of supervisors meeting uh told us if we were to vote no on the canvas that we
00:38:33.860 would be subject to criminal penalties and to me that that just blew my mind if i have the ability to vote
00:38:40.640 yes or no but you're going to arrest me if i vote no that's just not how we do it here in america but
00:38:47.020 apparently it's how we're doing it now in arizona so this who was the attorney who did he who'd the
00:38:53.080 attorney represent he represent the the supervisors or he represent the state no he's the he's an attorney
00:38:59.640 for the county attorney's office and he's the representative for the board of supervisors and he was not
00:39:05.940 making a threat he was informing us of what of what we could uh be up against if we chose to not approve
00:39:13.080 the canvas the other issue with if we didn't approve the canvas then um the candidates in arizona could
00:39:21.200 not challenge the vote it's just a strange way that it lays out and then if we didn't take our votes out of
00:39:29.600 the mix this this is that you got to certify that you called a canvas you got to certify the vote
00:39:35.360 to then contest the election this is controversy with kerry lake let me ask you did you get a chance
00:39:40.840 i know monday you were in these did you get a chance to see any of the activity of citizens
00:39:45.620 testifying in front of maricopa county and what's your assessment of what happened in maricopa county
00:39:51.300 i did see that and from my statements about maricopa county i am not on the christmas card list of
00:39:58.700 any maricopa county supervisors anymore um they've done a terrible job of handling their elections for
00:40:04.820 the last three election cycles they haven't seen you would think they would learn from the first
00:40:09.480 poorly run one but they just don't seem to learn how to run an election properly i guess we need to
00:40:13.820 send some of our officials from up here down there and help them
00:40:16.840 so ron um given the fact that you guys run them transparent and uh and i realize it's a much
00:40:25.560 smaller place but you run them transparently and in fairly um is this your view is this incompetence
00:40:33.140 or is it malfeasance is this level of implosion on election day understanding that trump voters are
00:40:40.320 because of concerns they've got with the counting process and the mail-in ballot process and the
00:40:45.440 algorithms and machines everything that they they have in their mind as free citizens they come out
00:40:49.820 on game day could this just be as you've seen it incompetence or you think it's malfeasance
00:40:54.080 you know i i don't want to uh paint them with the malfeasance but they're surely incompetent
00:41:00.820 you know they should have learned how to run an election by now um you know to not have
00:41:06.680 the the correct ink in your machine to print a ballot that's just unacceptable
00:41:12.840 do you think um do you think that there's all types of you know there's going to be lawsuits
00:41:22.020 people are getting affidavits there's going to be they're going to contest the election one level
00:41:25.760 but also voters are going to start coming in now that they were disenfranchised you got this whole
00:41:30.560 situation in cochise county where they're asking katie hobbs to come and make a presentation
00:41:35.620 to actually walk them through why their voters are not disenfranchised what exactly went on
00:41:40.780 she's i think kind of refusing you've got mark elias has now stepped in here and said hey the
00:41:45.520 only presentation the supervisor is going to see is in a courtroom you know they've already he's
00:41:50.980 already representing groups that are suing the uh the uh supervisors is your sense that that voters in
00:41:59.280 maricopa county were disenfranchised and therefore mojave county was disenfranchised
00:42:05.640 we believe that mojave county voters were disenfranchised by the problems that they had
00:42:11.700 in maricopa county their mistakes are bigger than our entire county vote and i think it's
00:42:19.680 disenfranchised the rural voters across the state not to mention it disenfranchises maricopa county
00:42:26.040 voters and republican voters in particular who are more likely to cast their ballot at the poll
00:42:31.060 so any problems at the poll affect republicans more than they would affect democrats
00:42:35.600 uh could you hang through uh we're going to take a short break i just want to see if you can you
00:42:42.160 hang through for a few minutes on the other side i've also got john solomon who's going to join us
00:42:46.380 about maricopa county uh ron gold one of supervisors up in mojave county uh we're going to take a short
00:42:52.740 commercial break uh we're going to be uh joined by the great john solomon also about the history in
00:42:57.880 maricopa county of essentially incompetence voter disenfranchisement this is a massive massive
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00:45:53.480 look you you you you come across as a patriot obviously it's a it's a uh a county with the
00:46:00.180 great frontier spirit you talk about disenfranchisement what what are you guys going to do now about that
00:46:07.880 issue of disenfranchisement in this election if we were to not canvas our election they would just
00:46:15.260 remove our voters vote from the statewide tally which then uh it actually would flip to the republican
00:46:23.100 seats that we picked up statewide so it'd just add insult to injury but i've got an attorney working
00:46:28.880 on the issue of uh the interpretation that if we were to vote no on the canvas we'd be arrested
00:46:34.620 because i just think that's the wrong decision so we'll appeal that to the attorney general i need
00:46:40.660 to do that fast because we may not control the attorney general seat after the first of the year
00:46:44.920 uh ron how do people uh follow you how do they get to you because this is obviously
00:46:50.580 they're going to contest this there's going to be lawsuits flying all around i'm sure
00:46:54.540 mojave and cochise are going to play a pretty important part going forward how do people get to
00:46:59.260 you um i'm on facebook got ron gould at sitlink.net and uh they want to send me my county email is um
00:47:11.360 google.r at mojave.gov good okay we'll put it up on that we'll put it up on in all the chat rooms and
00:47:19.000 on the site ron a gould from mojave county thank you very much for joining us thanks for having me
00:47:24.040 steve have a great day merry christmas by the way thanks brother merry christmas so john solomon this
00:47:29.140 is a mess he just said that hey the voters in mojave county was disenfranchised by this madness in
00:47:35.000 maricopa you've got a great article up with your correspondent out there walk us through the
00:47:39.620 history of of maricopa county this is not just something that happened there's a history of
00:47:44.020 malfeasance and incompetence excuse me um yeah listen this is a 10-year train wreck in the making
00:47:50.400 it was a slow train wreck uh in 2012 there were so many problems that uh provisional ballots in early
00:47:56.980 ballots took weeks to count and back at that time the local media were outraged in fact they i think
00:48:02.660 it was arizona republic it called arizona nationally disgraced by its performance in elections in 2014
00:48:08.100 similar things happened in 2016 they made changes and the lines were so long that the obama justice
00:48:14.340 department sent a letter saying they were concerned about what maricopa county was doing
00:48:18.120 2018 more long delays in voting counts and of course 2020 the arizona senate came back and found
00:48:24.240 all sorts of irregularities including 5 000 voters they believe voted in maricopa county and at least
00:48:30.020 one other county so potential double voting many other uh ballots called into question 50 000 i think
00:48:36.140 across the state um this has been an issue that uh the local leadership have continually kicked down
00:48:42.540 the line they have not been able to count votes effectively uh sometimes it's machines sometimes
00:48:47.740 it's equipment sometimes it's provisional ballots but the system has been broken for a long time
00:48:53.100 in maricopa county and it was the obama doj and the mainstream media originally concerned until
00:48:58.860 republicans started complaining and then of course uh it became election denialism to raise the same
00:49:03.820 questions but this is a county that has had long problems with counting votes and that's why there's
00:49:09.940 so much distrust in arizona over the largest county and its election system look they've disenfranchised
00:49:16.760 the rest of the state they disenfranchised their own voters you saw the other day this public
00:49:22.780 denunciation it was a denunciation across the board uh they they've got this technical thing that you've
00:49:28.940 and they just the judge ruled last night in the abe hamaday situation that you've got to wait till
00:49:33.080 it's all certified to go to actually contest it but this is going to start to get not just heated up
00:49:39.100 it's going to start to get crazy because of their performance um tell me how you think this is going
00:49:44.600 to play it i know you guys have people on the ground and you're very close to this walk me through the
00:49:48.180 john solomon analysis yeah listen i think there's multiple scenarios the first is abe hamaday's lawsuit
00:49:53.880 will get refiled uh when uh the certification is made by the state the courts will then look at it
00:50:00.860 and see whether there's any merit to it and whether uh there's a remedy if there is merit to it uh carrie
00:50:07.100 lake was on the show last night i know she was on with you yesterday uh she's preparing legislation
00:50:10.940 as well to come out once the certification is she claims she has whistleblowers let's see what that
00:50:16.180 evidence is in order to prevail in the courts according to our legal experts the candidates are going to
00:50:21.320 have to show there are enough um ballots in dispute of voters who voted for them that either aren't
00:50:26.560 counted or didn't get properly counted or were turned away to overturn the election that's a high
00:50:31.740 threshold uh a lot less for abe hamaday because he's 800 votes it's several thousand votes for carrie
00:50:37.540 lake so you got to understand the level of high threshold the long-term question is will any of
00:50:42.080 this litigation prompt this county with 10 years of crisis and problems to actually fix itself so that
00:50:48.240 we don't go through another election i think that's the third scenario we have to watch right
00:50:52.400 now the county's doubling down thinking what it did was fine but you look at the history most
00:50:57.940 arizona voters don't think what maricopa county has done is fine you should be able to walk into
00:51:01.760 maricopa county bahava county or whatever county in arizona and be treated the same way all voters
00:51:06.980 are supposed to have equal protection under the constitution maricopa county has a decade-long history
00:51:12.340 of not meeting that standard look for 2024 and going forward first off there's a huge fight
00:51:18.800 taking place now carrie lake there's no chance that hobbes won this impossible she's got a big
00:51:23.680 article in the the republic today didn't even run a campaign didn't run a campaign this has got to be
00:51:29.400 sorted here that's why it's a national crisis but people have to understand people run around ronda
00:51:34.380 santa's donald trump 2024 hey unless we get pennsylvania and arizona sorted and i mean sorted that this
00:51:40.340 can't happen again not so sure you can pull it off john solomon uh where do people get to you for
00:51:45.960 your great show your website and you personally well i follow you every night at five o'clock six
00:51:51.480 o'clock right here on real america's voice just the news no noise and on social media jay solomon
00:51:55.540 reports and of course just the news.com that's where we have all of our news john solomon thank you
00:52:00.760 very much a great piece we got up on the fiasco in maricopa county thanks steve absolute absolute
00:52:08.480 disgrace absolute disgrace but people have to understand carrie lake and her team are at the
00:52:14.180 ramparts so this is going to be a tough one it's going to be a nasty one short commercial break back
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