Bannon's War Room - November 30, 2022


Episode 2339： The Greatest Threat For The CCP Are Christians; Brazil's Streets Are Still Flooded With Patriots


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Athen Koutsarambas joins us to talk about how to get Delaware County back on the right side of the political aisle. How did Delaware County go from a solidly red county to a purple one?

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00:00:00.400 Here's your host, Stephen K. Mack.
00:00:04.200 Okay, Athen Koutsarambas joins us from Pennsylvania.
00:00:09.220 So I understand the audience. I've got it.
00:00:11.660 People's heads are blowing up.
00:00:13.380 Take a deep breath.
00:00:14.980 It's the first step of a journey.
00:00:17.740 And we're going to have you back on.
00:00:19.120 By the way, you're one of the top analytical guys.
00:00:20.900 We've had you on before.
00:00:21.700 You're one of the top analytical guys
00:00:22.940 and have been in the Commonwealth for many, many years.
00:00:26.080 I just want to go back because time,
00:00:27.500 I've got to get to Arizona.
00:00:28.420 But Athen, at least for this inaugural launch,
00:00:34.300 I want you to go back and tell our audience,
00:00:36.240 how did Delaware County, because let me be blunt.
00:00:39.120 Unless you get Delaware County back into the red category
00:00:43.000 that it needs to be, right,
00:00:45.120 and start really having ballots up in Lucerne
00:00:47.540 and Northeast up around Scranton,
00:00:49.520 get that mess sorted.
00:00:51.060 We're not going to be winning Pennsylvania.
00:00:52.940 Let me just be blunt, okay?
00:00:54.400 You can't offset what they're doing in Philadelphia, right,
00:00:58.060 with as many votes in the heartland of Pennsylvania,
00:01:00.660 which is fabulous,
00:01:01.540 and even out west in some of the Trump country.
00:01:04.940 So how did Delaware County go from being solidly red
00:01:09.220 to now kind of solidly purple or even slightly blue?
00:01:14.900 How did that happen?
00:01:16.180 Steve, I could spend an hour talking about that.
00:01:19.060 Delaware County is a suburban county right outside of Philadelphia
00:01:22.300 on the western border of Philadelphia.
00:01:24.300 It was so solidly Republican that there were books written
00:01:28.300 about Republican politics in Delaware County.
00:01:31.340 There used to be jokes that if you wanted to have your trash picked up
00:01:34.460 in Delaware County, you needed to be registered Republican.
00:01:37.460 Over time, there was an exodus of people from Philadelphia,
00:01:41.080 specifically moving out of west Philadelphia
00:01:43.260 and into Delaware County.
00:01:44.600 And the Delaware County Republican machine did their best to explain
00:01:48.980 the reason Delaware County is safe,
00:01:51.460 the reason Delaware County is prosperous,
00:01:53.620 is because we have a set of Republican values here.
00:01:56.720 And please vote for those Republican values
00:01:59.200 by voting for Republican candidates.
00:02:01.980 And the Delaware County Republican Party was able to hold the line
00:02:04.940 way longer than anybody thought that they could have.
00:02:07.900 But our challenge has been is that we've got to identify candidates
00:02:13.000 who have the ability to bring the big tent.
00:02:16.600 And that's not about becoming a moderate.
00:02:18.500 That's not about becoming a rhino.
00:02:20.440 That is about being a conservative and communicating it well.
00:02:24.800 So what's happened is that while the Republican Party
00:02:26.880 in Delaware County still can do a great job in certain places,
00:02:31.720 the Democrats have taken over the majority of state house seats.
00:02:35.240 And state house seats is how you organize at the basic level in Pennsylvania.
00:02:39.860 And their candidates are workers.
00:02:41.880 They're going to knock on the doors.
00:02:43.580 And Delaware County is a place that's very walkable.
00:02:46.120 They're willing to put in the elbow grease
00:02:48.060 to do the types of changes that they've made.
00:02:50.800 So it's a big deal.
00:02:51.880 We've got to find ways to compete.
00:02:53.900 And in Bucks County, where I live, we found that model.
00:02:57.280 It is the blue-collar conservative model.
00:03:00.420 And we've wrapped ourselves in it.
00:03:01.960 And we have a strong manufacturing base here in the lower part of our county.
00:03:06.540 And we roll with it.
00:03:08.360 The realignment of the Republican Party to being a workers' party,
00:03:12.520 a populist party, that flies in Bucks County.
00:03:16.200 It flies throughout Pennsylvania.
00:03:18.140 That's a message we need to bring to Delaware County.
00:03:20.780 Just last thing.
00:03:21.960 How did this Republican, the mail-in ballot fiasco in Pennsylvania,
00:03:27.860 the last thing, we only get about a minute.
00:03:29.580 How did the Republican legislature get in back of this?
00:03:33.380 Because 2020 and now 2022, and looking forward,
00:03:36.360 I mean, we've got a mess in Pennsylvania.
00:03:37.920 We've got to sort out.
00:03:38.880 How did a Republican legislature approve that?
00:03:43.200 So statesmen refer to them as agreements, right?
00:03:46.300 They made a trade.
00:03:47.880 The trade was, we will make an agreement to remove straight-party voting
00:03:52.340 in exchange for mail-in balloting.
00:03:54.860 The belief was that getting rid of straight-party voting would be able to bring
00:03:59.700 more Republican votes in Philadelphia and the city of Pittsburgh.
00:04:03.680 In exchange for that, we got mail-in ballots.
00:04:06.720 Now, how do you test that theory?
00:04:09.440 In 2020, President Trump lost Pennsylvania, but two Republicans won statewide office
00:04:15.500 that we hadn't won in nearly 20 years.
00:04:18.240 So there may be validation to that theory.
00:04:21.160 I think what the Republicans who voted for this bill never imagined was a global pandemic
00:04:26.940 that would have one party adopt mail-in ballots at an incredible rate,
00:04:31.520 while Republicans were discouraged from using it.
00:04:34.000 Republicans used to be the masters at voting by mail in Pennsylvania.
00:04:37.640 It's also, as you know, we're the centerpiece of President Trump did not,
00:04:42.060 in fact, did not lose Pennsylvania.
00:04:44.220 He won.
00:04:44.900 But it was because of the mail-in ballots, and particularly signature verification, all of it.
00:04:48.500 But, okay, Athen, you've done an amazing job.
00:04:52.060 We want to get you back on here, because this is, we got, if we don't sort of Pennsylvania,
00:04:56.320 there's not going to, I don't care who you run in 2024, right?
00:04:59.300 Donald Trump, our strong belief is going to be win the primary and win the presidency.
00:05:03.500 But I got to tell you, this is Pennsylvania's key.
00:05:06.220 Your analysis is quite interesting.
00:05:08.200 I want to make sure everybody were going to put the Twitter up.
00:05:10.340 How do people follow you?
00:05:11.880 Because you're going to pick up a lot of followers today.
00:05:13.680 And guess what?
00:05:14.540 But all of them are not going to be fans, okay, at least at first.
00:05:18.420 I can already tell from the live chat.
00:05:20.380 You're going to have some challenges here.
00:05:22.940 But that's good.
00:05:23.720 You're a very tough and smart guy.
00:05:26.220 Where do they go to get you?
00:05:27.980 I'm on Twitter at Athen underscore K.
00:05:31.440 A-T-H-A-N underscore K. 1.00
00:05:35.820 Athen, thank you very much for coming back on the show.
00:05:38.080 Appreciate it.
00:05:38.440 Look forward to having you back on.
00:05:39.400 I want to thank Alexander Priate and Jack Pasovic for tutoring me for 24 hours on how to pronounce Athens' name.
00:05:47.700 So thanks.
00:05:48.440 Got to do that one.
00:05:49.880 Let's go out to Arizona, Mojave County.
00:05:52.580 Supervisor Ron Gould.
00:05:54.000 Can we play, can we go ahead and play the clip first?
00:05:56.440 I want to introduce Ron to the clip.
00:05:59.360 I vote aye under duress.
00:06:00.960 I found out today that I have no choice but to vote aye or I'll be arrested in charge of the felony.
00:06:08.440 I don't think that that is what our founders had in mind when they use the democratic process to elect our leaders, our former self-government.
00:06:16.700 I find that very disheartening.
00:06:19.300 With your vote of four ayes and zero nays, you've approved item 1B.
00:06:26.420 Anything else for the good of the order?
00:06:29.820 We're adjourned.
00:06:31.580 Okay, welcome back.
00:06:32.600 For the good of the order, Ron Gould.
00:06:34.160 First off, tell me about Mojave County.
00:06:36.720 You know, Arizona is one of the most stunningly beautiful states in America.
00:06:40.840 There's tourism from all over the world.
00:06:42.380 People come here, absolutely jaw-dropping beauty.
00:06:45.840 And it's kind of this vast wilderness that's still Arizona.
00:06:49.940 Tell us about Mojave County.
00:06:52.040 How big is it?
00:06:52.920 How many folks?
00:06:54.020 What do you guys do?
00:06:55.040 Tell me about the county.
00:06:56.680 Good morning, Steve.
00:06:57.820 Mojave County is the fifth largest county in the United States.
00:07:00.940 It's founded by the Colorado River.
00:07:04.120 It is beautiful.
00:07:05.120 And it's an outstanding landscape.
00:07:08.680 It's awesome.
00:07:10.320 Mojave County is pretty much of a rural county.
00:07:12.380 The three main cities that are in Mojave County is Kingman, Bullhead City, and Lake Abbasu City.
00:07:19.280 And it's a solid red county.
00:07:21.680 We vote 70% to 75% Republican.
00:07:24.000 It's big Trump country, big MAGA.
00:07:27.540 You have to be a hardy type to live in Mojave County, right?
00:07:31.120 You're not.
00:07:31.860 It's people that are a pioneer spirit, correct?
00:07:36.760 Correct.
00:07:37.300 Correct.
00:07:37.660 And you'd be amazed at the number of Trump flags that are still flying in Lake Abbasu City in particular.
00:07:43.860 And an expletive Biden flags are coming in a close second.
00:07:47.340 So Mojave County is massive.
00:07:50.760 Fifth largest county in the United States of America.
00:07:53.280 Bigger than many countries.
00:07:55.640 Not hugely populated, but populated by this kind of hardy, conservative frontier type.
00:08:02.440 You know, the backbone of the country.
00:08:05.580 This is the salt of the earth in this county.
00:08:08.400 Sir, you know, I've watched, you know, been involved in news for, I don't know, 10 or 15 years now.
00:08:13.680 Made films before that.
00:08:15.240 Been all over the world.
00:08:16.460 I don't actually ever remember.
00:08:19.420 And maybe it's out there and I have the audience send it to me.
00:08:23.080 A public official stating what was stated into the microphone yesterday about being a threat,
00:08:29.680 in a democracy being a threat to the rest.
00:08:31.080 So can you walk me through what's that about?
00:08:33.660 What happened on this certification process in Mojave County?
00:08:38.260 Yeah, what we were doing is called canvassing the election,
00:08:40.900 which meant that we were going to accept the results from Mojave County's election,
00:08:45.620 not Maricopa County's election, where Phoenix is, where they had a ton of problems.
00:08:50.200 Our election officials do a solid job of running our elections.
00:08:53.800 Our elections are fair and honest and transparent.
00:08:56.700 So we were approving Mojave County's canvas.
00:08:59.780 We had postponed the canvas till the very last day just to give everybody more time to do the research
00:09:07.240 and whatnot on any potential challenges.
00:09:10.240 And the attorney that was staffing the Board of Supervisors meeting told us if we were to vote no
00:09:16.560 on the canvas, that we would be subject to criminal penalties.
00:09:20.800 And to me, that just blew my mind.
00:09:24.280 If I have the ability to vote yes or no, but you're going to arrest me if I vote no,
00:09:29.340 that's just not how we do it here in America.
00:09:31.500 But apparently it's how we're doing it now in Arizona.
00:09:33.800 So who was the attorney?
00:09:36.980 Who did the attorney represent?
00:09:38.780 Did he represent the supervisors or did he represent the state?
00:09:42.500 No, he's an attorney for the county attorney's office and he's the representative for the
00:09:48.580 Board of Supervisors.
00:09:50.120 And he was not making a threat.
00:09:52.420 He was informing us of what we could be up against if we chose to not approve the canvas.
00:09:58.440 The other issue with if we didn't approve the canvas, then the candidates in Arizona could
00:10:06.020 not challenge the vote.
00:10:08.220 It's just a strange way that it lays out.
00:10:11.240 And then if we didn't approve it, we'd take our votes out of the mix.
00:10:15.920 This is that you got to certify, you called a canvas, you got to certify the vote to then
00:10:20.700 contest the election.
00:10:21.880 This is controversy with Kerry Lake.
00:10:24.100 Let me ask you, did you get a chance, I know Monday you were in these, did you get a
00:10:27.660 chance to see any of the activity of citizens testifying in front of Maricopa County?
00:10:32.720 And what's your assessment of what happened in Maricopa County?
00:10:36.740 I did see that.
00:10:38.500 And from my statements about Maricopa County, I am not on the Christmas card list of any
00:10:43.720 Maricopa County supervisors anymore.
00:10:46.840 They've done a terrible job of handling their elections for the last three election cycles.
00:10:51.780 They haven't seen, you would think they would learn from the first poorly run one, but they
00:10:55.460 just don't seem to learn how to run an election properly.
00:10:57.920 I guess we need to send some of our officials from up here, down there and help them.
00:11:03.980 So, Ron, given the fact that you guys run them transparent and I realize it's a much
00:11:10.380 smaller place, but you run them transparently and fairly.
00:11:14.180 Is this, your view, is this incompetence or is it malfeasance?
00:11:19.140 Is this level of implosion on election day, understanding that Trump voters are because of
00:11:25.680 concerns they've got with the counting process and the mail-in ballot process and the algorithms
00:11:30.680 and machines, everything that they have in their mind as free citizens, they come out on
00:11:34.800 game day.
00:11:35.540 Could this just be, as you've seen it, incompetence or do you think it's malfeasance?
00:11:38.860 You know, I don't want to paint them with a malfeasance, but they're surely incompetent.
00:11:46.200 You know, they should have learned how to run an election by now.
00:11:49.740 You know, to not have the correct ink in your machine to print a ballot, that's just unacceptable.
00:11:57.680 Do you think that there's all types of, you know, there's going to be lawsuits, people
00:12:07.320 are getting affidavits, there's going to be, they're going to contest the election one
00:12:10.360 level, but also voters are going to start coming in now that they were disenfranchised.
00:12:14.660 You got this whole situation in Cochise County where they're asking Katie Hobbs to come and
00:12:19.580 make a presentation to actually walk them through why their voters are not disenfranchised,
00:12:24.420 what exactly went on.
00:12:25.880 She's, I think, kind of refusing.
00:12:27.720 You've got Mark Elias has now stepped in here and said, hey, the only presentation the supervisor
00:12:32.520 is going to see is in a courtroom.
00:12:34.820 You know, they've already, he's already representing groups that are suing the supervisors.
00:12:41.320 Is your sense that voters in Maricopa County were disenfranchised and therefore Mojave County
00:12:49.440 was disenfranchised?
00:12:50.420 We believe that Mojave County voters were disenfranchised by the problems that they had in Maricopa County.
00:12:58.200 Their mistakes are bigger than our entire county vote.
00:13:03.820 And I think it's disenfranchised the rural voters across the state, not to mention it disenfranchises
00:13:10.000 Maricopa County voters and Republican voters in particular who are more likely to cast their
00:13:15.020 ballot at the poll.
00:13:15.880 So any problems at the poll affect Republicans more than they would affect Democrats.
00:13:22.180 Could you hang through?
00:13:23.800 We're going to take a short break.
00:13:25.340 I just want to see if you can hang through for a few minutes on the other side.
00:13:28.620 I've also got John Solomon is going to join us about Maricopa County.
00:13:32.920 Ron Gould, one of the supervisors up in Mojave County.
00:13:36.600 We're going to take a short commercial break.
00:13:38.240 We're going to be joined by the great John Solomon also, but the history of Maricopa County of
00:13:43.660 essentially incompetence, voter disenfranchisement.
00:13:47.560 This is a massive, massive crisis, a national crisis, and it's centered in Arizona.
00:13:53.400 Short break.
00:13:54.260 Back in a moment.
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00:15:03.600 Okay?
00:15:06.540 This is the primal scream of a dying regime.
00:15:10.600 Pray for our enemies.
00:15:13.720 Because we're going to medieval on these people.
00:15:16.980 You're just not going to free shot all these networks lying about the people.
00:15:21.260 The people have had a belly full of it.
00:15:23.220 I know you don't like hearing that.
00:15:24.600 I know you've tried to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to
00:15:26.840 stop it.
00:15:27.280 It's going to happen.
00:15:28.540 And where do people like that go to share the big line?
00:15:31.960 Mega media.
00:15:32.860 I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.
00:15:38.740 Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?
00:15:42.520 If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.
00:15:48.920 War Room.
00:15:49.720 Here's your host, Stephen K.
00:15:51.640 Okay, Wednesday, 30 November, year of our Lord, 2022.
00:15:57.460 You're in the War Room.
00:15:59.100 I want to go back to Cortez.
00:16:00.520 We got a lot to get through.
00:16:01.920 Steve, because one part you do, you obviously, you got a brilliant mind being in the pits,
00:16:07.980 being a boxer that was, you know, come from Georgetown, thrown into the pits of Chicago.
00:16:12.220 You got a lot of street savvy is what we say.
00:16:15.420 I want to get back to that.
00:16:16.720 But I got to ask you, because you're one of the top political messaging guys around and
00:16:20.580 obviously one of the stalwarts of the Trump movement, your observations on, by the way,
00:16:28.560 I want to make sure the audience understands I'm going to have people on from Delaware County
00:16:33.160 tonight that maybe have a slightly different point of view than our previous guest.
00:16:38.440 So I feel he's incredibly smart.
00:16:40.020 They have a very different view about these mail-in ballots and the situation in Delaware
00:16:43.000 County.
00:16:43.320 So we're going to get them and make sure they're able to put forward all their information.
00:16:48.400 Arizona and Pennsylvania, Steve, from what you've heard, what you've seen, give me your
00:16:52.600 assessment.
00:16:53.500 Yeah, Steve, in both of these states, but especially in Maricopa County, what we see are massive
00:16:58.820 violations of the 14th Amendment of the Equal Protection Clause of the Constitution.
00:17:04.780 I mean, this is Bush v. Gore from the year 2000 on steroids.
00:17:09.580 And what I mean by that, Steve, is that there is longstanding precedent that voters must be
00:17:14.500 treated essentially the same, subject to the same levels of verification, the same levels
00:17:21.140 of validation.
00:17:22.380 What we have seen repeatedly in the United States, but especially in places like Maricopa
00:17:27.060 County and Pennsylvania, is voters subjected to entirely different standards of proving who
00:17:33.020 they are, and particularly game day voters who are overwhelmingly Trump voters, being either
00:17:38.660 completely shut out of voting or subject to properly stringent standards of proving that
00:17:43.980 they are valid voters.
00:17:45.640 And none of that applying or very little of it applying to mail-in ballots.
00:17:49.460 So here's the reality, though, Steve.
00:17:51.000 I think, unfortunately, in those states, we know in Pennsylvania nothing is going to change
00:17:54.960 before 2024.
00:17:56.160 In Arizona, if Katie Hobbs is indeed seated as governor, nothing is going to change there
00:18:01.220 until 2024.
00:18:02.080 So given those rigged games, we must adjust our strategy.
00:18:05.860 So in states that we control, that have good election procedures, we can still rely on convincing
00:18:12.040 voters and trusting them to show up on game day.
00:18:14.700 But in these other states, you know, to John Frederick's point from earlier, in these other states,
00:18:20.040 Georgia, Arizona, and Pennsylvania, for now, we have to play by the rules of the rigged
00:18:25.300 game.
00:18:25.560 And what I mean by that is we have to change the mentality that our people are only going
00:18:29.420 to vote on election day.
00:18:30.580 And we need to be just as interested in the mechanics of voting and early voting and ballot
00:18:35.460 collection as we are in winning over hearts and minds.
00:18:38.340 We have to do both.
00:18:39.140 We still have to persuade people.
00:18:40.300 We still have to have the agenda.
00:18:41.620 But we have to do both in these states until we can gain power and then have legitimate election
00:18:47.720 procedures, real accurate mechanics in these states.
00:18:51.720 And what I mean by that, game day voting, voter ID, paper ballots.
00:18:54.820 But until we get there, we have to unfortunately adjust our game plan to the rigged rules of
00:19:00.960 the game in places like Maricopa.
00:19:03.540 By the way, in the Republican establishment, McCain establishment in Arizona, and also just
00:19:08.120 the establishment of the country, they have to understand if you don't fight right now,
00:19:12.360 particularly in Arizona and other places, to show people that you're just not going to
00:19:17.460 let things be stolen, that you're going to have equal protection for citizens of voting,
00:19:21.800 you're going to lose, I don't know, 10, 15, 20 percent.
00:19:25.220 It's going to happen.
00:19:26.240 They're just going to say, I'm going to go live my life.
00:19:28.340 I'm just not going to do this.
00:19:29.620 This is why it's a crisis for conservatives.
00:19:33.300 It's a crisis for the Trump movement.
00:19:34.880 Even if the establishment Republicans ever want economic policies that would somehow have some
00:19:43.560 sort of balance inside of this madness you're seeing on the left.
00:19:46.780 And it is madness when you talk about what's going on at Capitol Hill and kowtowing to the
00:19:51.240 globalists.
00:19:52.460 It's going to be over.
00:19:53.860 People are kidding themselves about the reality of this thing.
00:19:56.280 This is something serious.
00:19:58.060 I got Jack Posobiec.
00:19:59.900 Steve, you've done some great analysis on China.
00:20:02.680 Walk me through this analysis.
00:20:04.500 Sure.
00:20:04.720 So listen, the situation in China deteriorates not just on the political side, the human rights
00:20:09.700 side, but also economically.
00:20:11.260 And I think the two are inextricably linked because the Chinese party has long effectively
00:20:15.060 had an unstated bargain with the Chinese people.
00:20:17.780 You might even call it a bribe to say, we will give you no rights, but we will provide
00:20:22.120 you with economic growth.
00:20:23.960 Economic growth largely funded because they have used slave or quasi-slave labor to replace
00:20:29.760 American workers because of the complicity of the ruling class in the United States.
00:20:33.760 But nonetheless, that has been essentially the deal between the CCP and the citizens of China.
00:20:39.020 But that deal no longer works if they cannot deliver the growth, if they cannot deliver
00:20:44.100 an improved standard of living.
00:20:46.520 And if we can pull up, please, chart number four, this will show Chinese PMI, Purchasing
00:20:51.160 Managers Index, which was released overnight.
00:20:54.140 This is manufacturing PMI.
00:20:56.020 It was well below expectations.
00:20:58.300 And as that chart shows, well below 50.
00:21:01.080 PMI, these are diffusion indexes, meaning when it's above 50, the economy is growing.
00:21:06.060 When it's below 50, it is contracting, as you can see from that chart, in recent months,
00:21:10.500 including this month, well below 50.
00:21:13.300 So the Chinese economy is contracting in a material and intense way.
00:21:18.380 And by the way, these are official data points from China.
00:21:20.800 So this is not a private number.
00:21:22.700 So even Beijing is willing to admit, and by the way, the services number was even worse.
00:21:28.060 It came in at 46.7.
00:21:29.480 So even Beijing is conceding that the economy in China is in significant trouble.
00:21:35.700 Again, why?
00:21:36.220 For two main reasons.
00:21:37.220 Number one, their primary customers here in the United States are weakened.
00:21:40.520 The American consumer is simply spent, is tapped out, is in all likelihood going to have
00:21:45.020 a terrible Christmas shopping season.
00:21:47.420 That reflects back to China.
00:21:49.300 And then on the Chinese side of things, the zero COVID policy has been disastrous for
00:21:53.700 Chinese production, especially Chinese manufacturing.
00:21:56.460 So the situation in China economically continues to deteriorate.
00:22:00.460 And that is feeding into the anxiety of a people who have been terrorized with a zero
00:22:05.120 COVID policy by the Chinese Communist Party.
00:22:07.820 Volatility explodes in China, Steve, on all fronts, the economic as well as the political
00:22:12.960 front.
00:22:14.100 I want to, one last question, because you're going to bridge into Posobics.
00:22:18.500 That's going to talk both.
00:22:20.380 I said, yes, I've said this for a long time, for years, but some of the audience, particularly
00:22:24.220 people that are newly watching the show were like, is Bannon a neocon?
00:22:27.920 I said, until the slaves, China is a slave labor market. 0.98
00:22:33.240 That's how they shipped all the manufacturing jobs over there.
00:22:35.480 Nobody had to pay for the labor. 0.58
00:22:36.640 So it's a slave.
00:22:37.180 That's why we support Lao Ba Ching. 0.96
00:22:38.980 And the point we made is that until the slaves of China are free, people in the United States 1.00
00:22:43.800 are not free.
00:22:44.740 Unlike in the Ukraine, the economies are so inextricably linked.
00:22:48.180 When you see that 100,000 number of manufacturing jobs, remember, Wall Street, the global corporatists
00:22:54.540 and the Wall Street financiers shipped all these jobs to China for their own profit on
00:23:00.760 your pension money, by the way, most of it.
00:23:03.660 Steve, before you leave, talk about, this is different than Ukraine.
00:23:07.360 What happens in China, everything that happens in China directly, for everybody in the audience,
00:23:11.880 understand something, directly affects your life, impacts your life.
00:23:15.680 This is why the Chinese have spent, we're getting gaffed, you know, they've got another 1.00
00:23:19.300 big seminar today.
00:23:20.300 This is why they're spending billions on political warfare here in the United States.
00:23:24.600 This is why every one of your institutions is infected with the contagion of the CCP, whether
00:23:29.880 there's universities, trade associations, Capitol Hill, Wall Street, media, all of it.
00:23:35.000 Until the slave labor in China is free, you're a slave. 0.67
00:23:39.920 Because this depresses worldwide, it depresses worldwide salaries.
00:23:43.520 And it takes away the high-valuated manufacturing jobs.
00:23:46.740 Cortez, make the case for me, sir.
00:23:49.440 No, 100%, Steve.
00:23:50.940 And I've also received this criticism from a lot of folks that I'm somehow a neocon because
00:23:54.760 I care about protecting Taiwan because it's absolutely integral to the U.S. economy.
00:23:58.860 Now, I wish that we weren't dependent on Taiwan, and we need to fix that. 0.99
00:24:02.640 It's going to take years.
00:24:03.680 We should not be dependent.
00:24:04.760 But the reality is, we are.
00:24:06.540 OK, right now, we are totally dependent on Taiwan for chip production.
00:24:10.060 We are far too intertwined with China to not care about what's happening domestically in
00:24:15.060 China.
00:24:15.400 And it matters so much for us domestically here.
00:24:17.760 By the way, none of that is true for Ukraine.
00:24:20.460 OK, Ukraine is immaterial to the United States, especially economically.
00:24:25.280 That is a regional, ancient, ethnic battle that has been raging for centuries and will
00:24:29.720 probably continue to rage for centuries.
00:24:31.860 And thankfully, it involves no U.S. interest.
00:24:34.400 But getting back to the Pacific side of things, let me give you a very concrete, very current
00:24:37.940 example of why this matters to Americans.
00:24:40.960 Look at what Apple is doing right now.
00:24:43.340 And I just posted on my social media, by the way, a video of Tim Cook, the CEO of Apple.
00:24:47.520 The video is a few years old, but it's just as relevant today, where he says that China
00:24:51.720 aligns completely.
00:24:53.000 This is a quote, aligns with Apple's values.
00:24:56.120 Well, what is Apple doing right now in China?
00:24:58.600 What's it doing in the United States?
00:24:59.920 In China right now, it has literally prohibited the Chinese patriots who are in the street
00:25:04.780 demonstrating for their human and civil rights.
00:25:08.060 It has prohibited them from using AirDrop as a function for them to communicate with
00:25:12.160 each other.
00:25:12.760 This is an American company helping, aiding and abetting the thugs of the Chinese Communist 1.00
00:25:18.020 Party, Junta.
00:25:19.240 At the same time, here in the United States, Apple is threatening Twitter, is threatening to
00:25:25.440 remove Twitter as an app from Apple devices.
00:25:29.040 Why?
00:25:29.360 Because Twitter finally, at last, is actually going down a road of free speech.
00:25:33.980 So it believes in repression in China at the behest of the CCP, and it is willing to use
00:25:39.360 Chinese-style tactics, CCP tactics, here in the United States because it has monopoly
00:25:44.700 power, which it shouldn't have, and we need to get to address that in this new Congress.
00:25:48.660 But the point is, look at what Apple is doing, and that shows you that is proof positive of
00:25:53.380 how relevant China is, unfortunately, to the United States.
00:25:57.440 If we lose the—Taiwan is Silicon Valley West.
00:26:01.060 I wish it wasn't, but it is.
00:26:03.220 And the factories you see, these big chip factories in Texas and Arizona, it is years
00:26:07.860 before these things are stood up and functioning at the level you need to be.
00:26:12.100 Remember, the value of chip trading now in the world is bigger than oil trading.
00:26:17.140 Chips run the modern industrial world.
00:26:20.060 If we lose Taiwan, the United States economy will drop 25%.
00:26:24.860 If you think you'd be in a recession, you think you're going to be in a depression, 1930s
00:26:28.160 will look like party time compared to what would happen.
00:26:31.780 So, hey, the Wall Street corporations did it.
00:26:34.580 The Bush apparatus did it.
00:26:35.900 Clinton did it.
00:26:36.640 The Uniparty did it.
00:26:37.580 We are where we are, but we've got to unwind it.
00:26:39.620 But trust me, those people in the streets in Beijing and Shanghai, they're fighting just
00:26:44.820 as much for your freedom as they're fighting for their freedom.
00:26:47.600 And on this, I consider myself an expert, and I will make sure that we explain this going
00:26:52.400 forward so people don't think that Steve Cortez and Steve Bannon turned to neo-gods.
00:26:57.100 We're far from it.
00:26:58.640 Steve Cortez, how do people get to you?
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00:27:54.360 Okay, Poso, connect the dots.
00:28:00.220 Connect what's happening in Ukraine on this, obviously, a battlefield that we've warned
00:28:05.820 was going to be horrible for the Ukrainian people because they're the guys left holding
00:28:09.460 the bag to Washington, D.C., to Beijing.
00:28:13.380 So let me go down the list, right?
00:28:15.260 Whether it's 100,000, whatever the real number is, this was the cost of those counter-offenses.
00:28:20.040 Remember the New York Times would say, oh, the counter-offenses, these amazing counter-offenses,
00:28:23.660 they're so wonderful, they're barely using it.
00:28:25.360 And then she comes out, yeah, actually, we lost 100,000 men.
00:28:28.820 And so that means that's your battle hardened, that's your combat-tested men.
00:28:31.800 That means that as the Russians are now mobilizing again, remember, 300,000 in the first tranche
00:28:38.280 of mobilization, they're just waiting for those farms to freeze down there in the west,
00:28:42.400 down there in the south, up in the north again.
00:28:44.480 The minute those farms freeze, whether it be December 15th, whether it be close to Christmas
00:28:48.960 time, you're going to see the tanks rolling again in from Russia.
00:28:52.240 They have the ability to send waves and waves and waves of this.
00:28:55.780 They have something called strategic depth.
00:28:58.800 That is the threat.
00:28:59.980 That's always been the threat.
00:29:01.160 And now they're getting the bombers involved.
00:29:02.920 They're getting air online.
00:29:04.440 It, it, this is a situation where you need to look for de-escalation.
00:29:08.040 The Russian army is built around tanks and artillery.
00:29:10.820 I looked at the throw weight, the amount of throw weight that Russia has hit Ukraine with 0.99
00:29:15.980 is like mind-boggling.
00:29:17.400 These are World War II numbers.
00:29:19.220 And these guys are just going to keep giving you.
00:29:20.620 Well, it's the same way they fought every single war in their history.
00:29:23.160 It's the same way they always fight.
00:29:24.340 They're going to keep giving it to you.
00:29:25.240 And they said today that you guys, the weaponizing winner, hello, check with Napoleon and Hitler. 0.55
00:29:30.580 I think Napoleon will tell you all about that.
00:29:32.920 We're not arguing the Russian side.
00:29:35.060 What we're saying is that as the country's always done, level hands got to prevail and
00:29:40.880 got to get these people into a room and make a deal because they're not going to stop.
00:29:45.520 And you're going to have 200,000 Ukrainian troops dead.
00:29:48.920 You're going to have 100,000 Ukrainian civilians dead.
00:29:52.360 And all for what?
00:29:53.400 You're going to get back to basically the same spot.
00:29:55.640 And so they're being led down the most fast to the Toronto House.
00:29:59.120 This is where all for what?
00:30:00.420 All for what?
00:30:01.200 Right?
00:30:01.480 And as Gaffney said, let's go on the list here.
00:30:04.060 Quibono.
00:30:04.900 Right?
00:30:05.180 Quibono.
00:30:05.600 Because that's why the phones are ringing off the hooks on Capitol Hill right now, because
00:30:10.120 they know they have only a few more weeks before the Christmas break, before the new
00:30:14.640 Congress comes in, before everybody can get their little tentacles, get their little hooks
00:30:18.760 in this new defense authorization bill.
00:30:20.600 It's about the money.
00:30:22.160 Look, Sam Bankman-Fried, right?
00:30:24.120 The guy from the FTX disaster.
00:30:25.940 He's saying, oh, I didn't launder the Ukraine money, but I wish I did. 1.00
00:30:29.980 He's admitting it, right?
00:30:31.260 Because he's got nothing left to hide.
00:30:32.900 He's got nothing left to lose.
00:30:33.980 He's saying, I wish I was in on that money laundering game.
00:30:36.420 I wish I was getting in the way all the lobbyists are.
00:30:39.300 That's what's going on.
00:30:40.480 That's who's profiting from this, because war is a racket.
00:30:44.620 Has always been, always will be.
00:30:46.700 So you're seeing that on the front end, but on the back end, on the back end of all of
00:30:51.740 this, it's the CCP that's propping up our economy, in a sense, propping up our economy.
00:30:58.160 Why?
00:30:58.380 Because the financial and technological hub of the globalization empire that was built,
00:31:04.360 by the way, from the days of Jiang Zemin, who just died, to today, that's been the deal.
00:31:09.640 You guys will have the slave labor, and that's what you're seeing in Foxconn.
00:31:13.320 That's a slave revolt.
00:31:14.260 They're saying, you need to get those iPhones and those iPads on the ships before Q4.
00:31:19.340 That needs to be one month out, because we need them on the boats to America.
00:31:23.240 You are the manufacturing slaves.
00:31:25.440 We'll give you the capital.
00:31:26.820 We'll give you the IP.
00:31:28.560 That's been the deals from the blood-soaked streets of Tiananmen, was where the system 0.83
00:31:33.980 of globalism was born.
00:31:36.140 They've already said, this is why Skowcroft came over from Bush 41 and said, we got you
00:31:41.000 back.
00:31:41.240 Skowcroft.
00:31:41.580 It's not going to be like Berlin.
00:31:45.160 You could have pushed them over with a feather.
00:31:47.400 If we had responded to Tiananmen Square the way that we responded to the Russian invasion 0.59
00:31:51.940 of Russia, or the Russian invasion of Ukraine, they'd be done. 0.84
00:31:55.420 We wouldn't be talking about the CCP.
00:31:57.200 We'd be talking about the CCP the way we talk about the German National Socialist Workers
00:32:01.420 Party today, right?
00:32:02.540 A thing of the past where they belong.
00:32:05.240 Amen.
00:32:05.640 And this country has been totally different.
00:32:07.720 All the high-valuated manufacturing jobs have been right here.
00:32:11.140 Yeah, and so when you want to talk about it, let me address this as well, because I get
00:32:14.340 this too.
00:32:14.700 They say, Poso, aren't you Mr. America First?
00:32:16.740 Why do you care?
00:32:17.540 Why are you shilling for big neocom?
00:32:19.420 Why are you, excuse me?
00:32:20.860 Go up to the United Auto Workers of Michigan.
00:32:24.340 Go up to the people of Detroit.
00:32:26.200 Go talk to those guys about this, because they understand that what happened to their industries,
00:32:31.360 what happened to these manufacturing centers, what happened to these factories, was done
00:32:34.980 to them.
00:32:35.920 This was a policy, and it was China and the U.S. elites, and there's only been one man in
00:32:40.900 our lifetimes that stood up to do something about it.
00:32:44.120 And that man is Donald J.
00:32:45.180 Trump, the only man who's done that.
00:32:46.960 And that's why there's still Trump 2020 and Trump won flags.
00:32:50.480 You got the Western Michigan.
00:32:51.500 They're still flying them out there because only one man was willing to walk out of the
00:32:56.840 system and tell people, you know what's going on in that back room, everything you thought
00:33:01.900 and worse.
00:33:02.460 And Beijing sees their opportunity to consolidate the Eurasian landmasters, the geopolitical goal
00:33:08.640 of what Charles XII, Hitler, Bonaparte, all of them. 0.75
00:33:11.980 Russia's stuck with China now. 0.57
00:33:13.640 Russia's stuck with China now. 0.57
00:33:14.880 Well, and China's underwriting it.
00:33:16.620 China's got their back financially.
00:33:18.060 Posobiec, how do people get to you?
00:33:19.960 We've got Charlie Kirk following us here at noon.
00:33:22.480 How do they get to your show?
00:33:23.480 How do they follow you on Twitter?
00:33:24.520 Because you are on fire, young man.
00:33:26.360 You got the CCP underwriting the war in Ukraine.
00:33:29.720 You got the CCP cracking down.
00:33:32.060 You got the CCP in bed with Apple, by the way, which is cracking down on freedom of speech.
00:33:35.480 We're going to get into all of this high level analysis later tonight when Human Events Daily
00:33:41.080 rides free.
00:33:42.340 Also this weekend, by the way, announcing very special sit down one hour special with none
00:33:47.340 other than Mr. Matt Tierman.
00:33:49.520 And we're going to do the two freedom uprisings that are happening concurrently in a way that
00:33:54.140 nobody else can talk about, Brazil and China.
00:33:57.080 It's going to be me and Matt at the full hour this Sunday.
00:33:59.600 We're going to promote that.
00:34:01.020 And by the way, by the way, you need to come to AmericaFest.
00:34:04.700 This is the summit for the plan for America.
00:34:07.160 It's myself.
00:34:08.060 It's you, Steve.
00:34:08.920 It's Tucker Carlson.
00:34:09.940 It's Charlie Kirk.
00:34:11.080 We are all going to, the great Tim Pool.
00:34:12.640 We're all meeting together because we know America stands at the precipice.
00:34:16.540 You must secure your tickets.
00:34:17.980 Amfest.com, December 17th to 20th.
00:34:20.220 Be there.
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00:34:23.040 Go there right now.
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00:34:24.680 You get discounts.
00:34:25.500 Go check it out.
00:34:26.420 You got to be there.
00:34:27.140 17th to the 20th.
00:34:28.440 Thank you, Jack.
00:34:29.060 I appreciate it.
00:34:30.360 Thanks, Steve.
00:34:30.800 So Tierman, connect the eastern border, Kiev, this horrible conflict that's going on like
00:34:38.680 World War II to Brazil, to what's happening on Capitol Hill, to Beijing, sir.
00:34:43.900 Well, as your previous segments really gyrated around, it all comes back to China.
00:34:50.180 China, it's not even an axis of evil anymore.
00:34:52.480 It is almost like a unipolarity of evil that all the little sub-evil movements and those
00:34:58.240 who would try and imperially, hegemonically take control of the free world revolve around.
00:35:04.600 And that's China.
00:35:05.500 I mean, they're everywhere.
00:35:06.660 They're in the EU.
00:35:07.500 I mean, we see it.
00:35:08.340 You and I have talked about a certain German MEP who is the only quote-unquote right winger
00:35:13.200 who's on the China-Europe Friendship Committee and says Taiwan is China's destiny, has been
00:35:18.380 writing it for years.
00:35:19.360 They have their hooks so far deep, and we'll be doing big reports on some of that, you know,
00:35:25.440 some of that movements they've done to try and co-opt freely elected in the quote-unquote
00:35:30.080 free societies like Europe.
00:35:32.060 And look, Brazil is now, as I wrote about over these months, the most important battleground 0.68
00:35:37.660 where it is a binary.
00:35:40.040 It is, will democracy reign or will China pick up another major chess piece?
00:35:45.700 And Lula is the pawn for them to take control, full control over Latin America. 0.85
00:35:51.420 The importance of Brazil cannot be overstated.
00:35:55.080 It is so impactful economically as a population center.
00:35:59.260 It is the anchor of Latin America.
00:36:01.480 And this is why people are protesting.
00:36:02.700 This is why you and I are covering this daily as the mainstream media.
00:36:06.300 And I was talking, I was on Tucker two nights ago talking about it.
00:36:08.520 He's the only one in the sort of big global media complex that has covered it all.
00:36:13.120 You've got millions of people, the largest street manifest stations and protests in a
00:36:16.540 democratic society, maybe ever, maybe ever in human history.
00:36:20.000 And nobody's covering this.
00:36:22.060 None of the mainstream media, it's like the old joke.
00:36:24.580 Hold it, hold it, hold it.
00:36:25.660 Whoa, whoa, whoa, bro.
00:36:26.940 They got a CNN in, not just CNN, they got Globo.
00:36:30.680 It's not being covered in Brazil.
00:36:32.880 Forget the global media is not being covered.
00:36:34.740 I want to talk about that.
00:36:36.260 And also for the audience that doesn't understand the direct links of the criminal Lula to the
00:36:42.000 CCP when he was first in power.
00:36:44.620 I mean, the CCP looks at Brazil as Liebenstrom.
00:36:47.620 It looks at that as it's a natural resource powerhouse that they must have control of through
00:36:53.560 the criminal Lula, sir.
00:36:55.740 Look, global communism has always been a global movement since Marx engineered it in the 19th
00:37:01.700 century.
00:37:02.160 It was always workers of the world unite.
00:37:04.080 The mechanism was class warfare that didn't work so well.
00:37:07.060 So in the 20th century with Gramsci and the long march to the institutions, it was much
00:37:11.100 more subtle on social movements, civil rights, gender, climate change.
00:37:15.600 They always have to have their hooks into something where they can turn everybody into an amorphous 0.92
00:37:20.220 proletariat movement.
00:37:22.640 And China has been hand in glove with Lula.
00:37:26.300 And it goes back before even the rise of China as a global hegemon.
00:37:30.880 Lula founded the Sao Paulo Forum in 1990 with, get this, his partner Fidel Castro.
00:37:37.380 Cuba was this hemisphere's anchor for the Soviet attempt at workers the world unite of global 0.96
00:37:43.040 Marxism.
00:37:44.060 They were successful in the Sao Paulo Forum.
00:37:46.240 They incubated Chavez in Maduro.
00:37:48.400 They incubated Boric, who now is running Chile, and Petro in Colombia.
00:37:52.260 And Lula had a good shot to really cement it 15 years ago when his party, PT, the party
00:38:00.400 of workers, they ran the country for 10 years, but they could not get their grubby hands off
00:38:05.980 the money.
00:38:06.540 They were stealing so much, they overshot it, and it got exposed, and the people revolted.
00:38:11.660 They were selling Brazilian natural resource assets to China for cash in bags, and they
00:38:16.920 were laundering it through a chain of car washes, the infamous Operation Car Wash.
00:38:20.900 Lula gets convicted, Dilma, his vice president and chief of staff, takes over, she gets convicted.
00:38:25.940 Same crime.
00:38:26.820 Temer takes over.
00:38:27.840 What did they do?
00:38:28.520 They appointed their friends into the judiciary, which is where we are now.
00:38:32.620 That judiciary is lawless, and who is going to adjudicate a lawless judiciary, right?
00:38:37.740 The judges are supposed to be the impartial ones adjudicating constitutionality of law,
00:38:42.100 law-breaking with the laws that are on the books.
00:38:44.500 So who comes in if the judges are part of the conspiracy?
00:38:47.980 And that's why we've been talking about the last few days, Article 142, and the Brazilian
00:38:52.280 military.
00:38:52.980 And that's heating up.
00:38:53.780 You asked me yesterday morning, what was incremental breaking?
00:38:56.680 And there was nothing in the morning, but by the afternoon, there were some big movements
00:38:59.860 that happened.
00:39:00.860 170 military officers sent an open letter to high command saying, and there are three main
00:39:08.960 takeaway points, quotes, there is no institution or constituted power that can place itself above
00:39:13.940 the law and the democratic order.
00:39:15.860 That is a straight shot at this judicial autocracy.
00:39:19.460 Next, the political, economic, and social pacification, especially for the maintenance of the guarantee
00:39:24.860 of law and order, is the military's role.
00:39:27.260 That's them saying, it's our turn, guys.
00:39:29.380 We need to stabilize society.
00:39:31.260 And then third, we are concerned about the lack of impartiality in the narrative of the
00:39:35.300 facts and in the dissemination of data by various communication vehicles.
00:39:38.720 That is a shot across the bow at the corruption of the media and the judges and the courts'
00:39:44.460 engagement with the media.
00:39:45.480 They censor the media.
00:39:46.780 That is not hewing to their line.
00:39:48.940 And they extol.
00:39:50.060 And in previous administrations, they even gave them money.
00:39:52.600 You know, Glovo will get funded by a Lula presidency.
00:39:55.480 It's just straight out of communism with state-owned enterprise system.
00:39:58.420 And that is what they're trying to work toward.
00:40:00.280 So how do they cover the protest?
00:40:01.740 Two frames.
00:40:02.780 Non-existent or the protesters are thugs who need to be arrested.
00:40:06.180 And the judges, as we've talked about, are working every angle they can to arrest protesters,
00:40:11.820 to find the truckers, to find the businesses that employ the truckers, to take away the
00:40:16.000 kids of the protesters and the truckers.
00:40:18.120 And the only thing defending the protesters is the military.
00:40:21.320 It's the commandants in the barracks saying, our role, our responsibility is to defend the
00:40:26.100 protesters as they exercise their constitutional rights.
00:40:29.280 Not to work for the judges.
00:40:30.740 And that's why I think they're going to have to execute some form of Article 142-driven
00:40:35.940 martial law, expose the election chicanery that the court has obfuscated in the audits,
00:40:41.700 and make arrests, arrest these judges.
00:40:43.520 These judges are not judges in the classical sense.
00:40:46.420 They are not impartial players.
00:40:48.180 They are a partisan cabal appointed by Lula and Dilma and Temer to fix the chessboard,
00:40:54.460 to put the fix in, to rig the game.
00:40:56.220 And they're doing it right now.
00:40:58.040 Yesterday, they're now pushing the certification of Lula was supposed to be December 19th.
00:41:02.900 As of yesterday, they made an announcement.
00:41:04.460 They're going to push it up a week to December 12th, one week further up.
00:41:08.800 Why?
00:41:09.260 Because they're scared.
00:41:10.460 They feel that the military is now going to act.
00:41:12.760 There's more and more military generals making public comments.
00:41:16.120 Like one general tweeted yesterday that Lula's party, PT, said their big regret,
00:41:21.360 they were very public about this 10 years ago, is that they did not defang and neuter the military,
00:41:26.940 the armed forces.
00:41:27.760 They did not make them their own Praetorian Guard like they have with the Federal Police Force.
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00:41:35.680 We're going to talk about Washington, D.C., Brazil, what's happening in eastern Ukraine,
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00:44:56.660 Tierman, some of the audience doesn't realize.
00:44:59.160 A lot of the audience does.
00:44:59.860 I mean, your lineage, your father was one of the great, what we call, you know, European
00:45:04.640 intelligentsia that really fought the Soviet Union and fought him tooth and nail for his
00:45:10.220 entire life.
00:45:11.120 You've kind of carried on that fight.
00:45:13.440 The intelligentsia in the U.S., they, for some reason, they're all over this Ukraine situation.
00:45:20.620 But they're also back in Lula.
00:45:22.300 I mean, the CIA went there in the summer.
00:45:24.780 You got word, I think, that Jake Sullivan may be going down shortly.
00:45:29.640 Biden congratulated this.
00:45:31.700 And this is for everybody's worried about voter integrity and the issue of elections.
00:45:36.320 Arizona, as much as a cauldron that is right now, we're following it nonstop.
00:45:41.720 Brazil kind of proves the case about the machines, right? 0.59
00:45:45.060 Because you did away with paper ballots, you did away with the voting, you did it all
00:45:48.640 through the machines, and here's what you got.
00:45:51.060 So, Matthew Tierman, connect some dots for me.
00:45:52.920 Why is the U.S.
00:45:55.700 intelligentsia so pro, like she used to be fighters against communism, why have they turned
00:46:01.460 and become pro Lula?
00:46:04.800 I think the way things have iterated out for the global technocratic class, the revolving
00:46:10.700 door political class in Europe, in the U.S., in the supranational governance bodies,
00:46:14.760 the U.N., the E.U., the W.H.O., the W.T.O., the World Bank, the more they globalize and
00:46:20.820 harmonize, the more fruitful and prosperous they will become in their sinecures.
00:46:25.380 They can go from government, then they go into Johns Hopkins and teach at SAIS, then
00:46:29.400 they join the board of the World Bank, and then they go back into office.
00:46:32.580 So, for them, it is Adam Smithian rational self-interest that they can continue to grow the
00:46:38.880 technocratic globalist bodies and their roles in it.
00:46:41.960 And Applebaum's a great example.
00:46:43.000 She was a quite incredible fighter against communism and a historiographer of what happened
00:46:47.860 in Ukraine, what happened behind the Iron Curtain, the gulag.
00:46:51.040 The Red Famine is absolutely must-read.
00:46:55.100 It's a brilliant book.
00:46:56.020 Give her a hat tip on that. 1.00
00:46:57.420 Historiographer.
00:46:58.140 But as an activist journalist who was married and is married to the former Polish defense
00:47:04.380 minister, foreign minister, and now he's an EU member, Radek Sikorsky, they were part
00:47:09.120 of the party, the Eurocentric party.
00:47:10.760 Now, for a lot of Iron Curtain nations, they wanted a little bit of Eurocentrism.
00:47:14.220 They wanted to get away from the sphere of the Soviet Union and being blocked out from
00:47:18.280 the West by the Iron Curtain.
00:47:19.880 And Eurocentrizing, joining the EU in 2004, when so many of them ascended, offered them
00:47:24.540 an opportunity for westernization, for prosperity, free enterprise, more freedoms that we have
00:47:30.000 taken for granted.
00:47:30.760 This was more new to them.
00:47:33.040 But what the EU morphed into was another globalist body hellbent on one thing, which is breaking
00:47:37.980 down nation-state sovereignty.
00:47:39.740 And so anyone who works in that frame, and Lula's a great example, Brazil will be integrated
00:47:45.700 via their network of Sao Paulo Forum into the same Latin American continental Marxist framework.
00:47:53.420 Venezuela was the original anchor.
00:47:55.600 Maduro and Chavez, Sao Paulo Forum people.
00:47:58.060 Bolivia and Morales, we've talked about these people.
00:48:00.020 Brazil has been the holdout. 0.93
00:48:01.960 And part of that is the religion in Brazil.
00:48:03.740 People there believe in God.
00:48:05.780 It's order and progress and higher power.
00:48:08.440 And it's not rule of man.
00:48:09.860 They've seen that.
00:48:10.640 They came out of dictatorships.
00:48:12.080 And they really do want rule of law.
00:48:14.000 So when they see this judicial autocracy take hold, they are vociferously against it.
00:48:19.000 And the media is in bed with it.
00:48:20.640 Of course, it's the same thing we've seen since the 60s here.
00:48:23.460 My father fought the Nazis in the late 30s, early 40s.
00:48:26.420 He fought the communists in Poland and the Soviet Union, imprisoned by them.
00:48:30.360 And then he came to New York and he fought the New York liberals.
00:48:32.320 And he used to say, they're all really the same in their mentality and methodology.
00:48:36.640 It's just that the U.S. Constitution prevented the New York liberals from building their gulags the way the Nazis and the Soviets did. 0.68
00:48:42.160 If they could, they would.
00:48:43.720 And now we actually see they're closer than ever to it.
00:48:46.440 So they're all harmonizing.
00:48:48.300 Jake Sullivan's going down there.
00:48:49.740 We reported on them tossing out the idea of him going down there.
00:48:52.980 And then he didn't.
00:48:53.960 Now things are coming to a head with the military.
00:48:56.320 And they may or may not act.
00:48:57.720 You know, the military is not a perfectly angelic structure of, you know, better angels.
00:49:03.040 There are military guys that are in hock with Lula that are already looking to block out any military action.
00:49:07.500 Our mutual friend, Paulo Figueiredo, named three or four of them by name on his Twitter yesterday, obviously from the safety of the U.S.
00:49:13.740 They want his scalp like they want mine, like they want Alan dos Santos.
00:49:17.220 But he named them.
00:49:18.360 And there's a lot of generals who will be happy for a transition because they'll do great in a redux of the klepto state. 0.72
00:49:23.940 But the majority of generals and certainly the majority of officers know that like Venezuelan history in 2000,
00:49:29.620 should Chavismo and Sao Paulo Forum politics come into Brazil, they're going to the gulag first. 0.99
00:49:35.280 They know the history.
00:49:36.000 This is why General Morau pointed out on Sunday, it was the 77th anniversary of when Brazilians turned back the communist scourge in 1935.
00:49:44.480 That was a very important symbol for him to say it.
00:49:46.940 And he said, we're going to be on guard.
00:49:48.820 We'll be continuing to be on guard.
00:49:50.640 That's, again, a shot across the bow.
00:49:52.440 They're signaling that they want to take action, whether they will or not.
00:49:56.200 Well, they better.
00:49:57.200 They better because Brazil will be Venezuela in 12 to 24 months if they do not.
00:50:01.680 Matthew, how do people follow you, particularly your getter and your Twitter account, which are kind of on fire and also your great reporting over at Creative Destruction Media?
00:50:12.600 Yeah.
00:50:12.740 Well, cdm.press, Todd Wood's been great.
00:50:15.000 He's been putting up a lot of stuff.
00:50:16.480 Matthew Tierramond on the social media platforms, M-A-T-T-H-E-W-T-Y-R-M-A-N-D.
00:50:21.260 Brother, thank you so much.
00:50:23.700 Honored to have you on here.
00:50:24.560 Look forward to having you back in the one-hour special with Jack Posobiec.
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