Bannon's War Room - Episode 2340： Rail Workers Of America Speak Out; The Chaos Continues At The Border

00:00:00.000 this is the primal scream of a dying regime pray for our enemies because we're going with evil on

00:00:09.860 these people here's not got a free shot all these networks lying about the people the people have

00:00:16.460 had a belly full of it i know you don't like hearing that i know you try to do everything

00:00:20.220 the world to stop that but you're not going to stop it it's going to happen and where do people

00:00:23.800 like that go to share the big line mega media i wish in my soul i wish that any of these people

00:00:31.620 had a conscience ask yourself what is my task and what is my purpose if that answer is to save my

00:00:39.540 country this country will be saved here's your host stephen k vann

00:00:46.720 thus it makes sense to moderate the pace of our rate increases as we approach the level of

00:00:56.460 restraint that will be sufficient to bring inflation down the time for moderating the

00:01:01.260 pace of rate increases may come as soon as the december meeting given our price our progress

00:01:07.180 in tightening policy the timing of that moderation is far less significant than the questions of how

00:01:11.840 much further we will need to raise rates to control inflation and the length of time it will be

00:01:17.540 necessary to hold policy at a restrictive level it is likely that restoring price stability will

00:01:22.420 require holding policy at a restrictive level for some time history cautions strongly against

00:01:27.980 prematurely loosening policy and i'll close by saying that we will stay the course until the job is done

00:01:34.620 thank you it is outrageous that every developed country in the world has paid sick leave except the

00:01:45.260 united states of america no one should be at risk of losing his or her job by staying home when sick

00:01:52.920 needing to see a doctor or getting life-saving surgery so it is progress the agreement provides some

00:02:01.000 time off for routine preventive and emergency medical care but what we need is paid sick leave for

00:02:08.000 railroad workers and for every american so today the house will take two important actions first we will

00:02:15.180 pass shutdown averting legislation to adopt the tentative agreement as negotiated by the railroad

00:02:21.600 companies and labor leaders and again with the administration at the table then we will have a separate

00:02:27.900 upper down vote to add seven days of paid sick leave to the tentative agreement okay welcome it is

00:02:35.900 wednesday 30 november in the year of our lord 2022 uh pal today i think did a mini pivot a little bit

00:02:43.960 blinked uh we're going to get more of that tomorrow to go through the math but uh let's say the federal

00:02:48.900 reserve i think put the punch bowl a little bit back the markets responded to that and it looked like they

00:02:55.020 kind of blinked about this inflation remember it's the easy money policies the negative interest rates

00:03:00.280 the zero interest rates that have really done more destruction to working class people and middle class

00:03:05.060 people than virtually anything else and uh now with this fiscal uh spending that's been out of

00:03:11.380 control the trains of dollars spent you've seen in the easy money printing uh we've got uh you know

00:03:16.800 massive inflation another month i think the 20th month in a row that we've had um negative um

00:03:24.020 uh income right inflation higher than net income raises than wages so wages down for 20 months in a row

00:03:31.900 on a real basis since 1972 ladies and gentlemen adjusted for inflation i think the average income

00:03:40.800 earner in this country has had basically a 12 cent raise this is one of the problems in this nation

00:03:46.080 right it's one of the problems in the nation is that the prosperity in this country is not shared it's not

00:03:51.800 shared by the working class people it's not shared by really the middle class 0.5 percent of the

00:03:58.760 citizens of this nation own more assets more real assets and financial assets than the bottom wait for

00:04:08.780 it 90 percent that's exactly the type of oligarchy that we fought a revolution for we didn't want to be

00:04:15.920 associated with a royal family in their uh in their big trading companies uh these oligarchs in the

00:04:23.300 early stages of the british empire that we're going to do that to the united states of america and yet

00:04:26.840 we have done this to ourselves the irony is uh a quite complicated and really uh tough to understand

00:04:36.660 labor deal cut today and i wanted to bring in we brought in tony cardwell president of the um

00:04:43.600 brotherhood international brotherhood of maintenance way employees division it's a one of the teamsters

00:04:48.480 unions one of the 12 unions associated with this and one of the bigger ones i think you tony you have

00:04:53.860 27 000 members of the union 23 000 were eligible to vote for this here just explain here's what i think

00:05:01.320 people understand why is congress first of all why does congress have any role in a labor negotiation

00:05:07.860 between between railroad workers the railroads how does congress step in here and start passing

00:05:13.900 legislation next thing you know you quote unquote have a deal yeah that the labor laws were written in

00:05:20.780 1929 so they go back you know nearly 100 years and so you're in a situation to where the railroad labor act

00:05:27.620 gives congress the ability to make a decision or stop our strike um for the interest of commerce and so

00:05:33.660 um they they they have that ability through the law and and unfortunately they have a right to intervene

00:05:40.240 i don't think the intent of the law was that they intervene unless there is a real dispute that that

00:05:46.300 can be resolved um or something that's being previously asked for in this particular case where

00:05:52.140 our request was for sick leave uh with the railroads and so it's frustrating that uh that congress would

00:05:57.820 intervene on on on uh something like this but they did today um they they passed a bill that stopped

00:06:03.580 our strike our expectation is that if they're going to stop our strike then they have an obligation

00:06:08.200 to give us what we would otherwise get any rail strike so if we would have had a rail strike we

00:06:13.500 would have gotten sick leave they have an obligation to pass a law to give us the sick leave we otherwise

00:06:18.100 would have attained uh with the rail strike okay here's what gets to be the confusing part first off

00:06:24.100 describe your part of the union your union what do you guys men and women do how many of them are there

00:06:30.960 etc just let our audience i want to audience get a feel for what you represent sure i represent

00:06:36.920 27 000 americans some of the hardest working americans that build and maintain the track structures in

00:06:43.880 america they do the welding they work in the cold the heat they do all the inspections on the track and

00:06:49.580 all the rebuilding and restructuring of the track um they they still swing hammers and and use jacks

00:06:55.780 and and lift heavy equipment and operate um operate some of the most complex equipment in america so

00:07:01.780 um they're some of the most talented people uh and skilled labor in america and and um they they work in

00:07:08.280 all the elements and you know quite frankly it's disturbing that we can't you know that some

00:07:13.500 some uh politicians are unwilling to to stand with labor and and these fine people and and give them

00:07:20.300 the sick leave that they deserve i think people felt that this thing was settled months ago the

00:07:27.560 white house got involved it was before the midterms i think it was in august if july and august they got

00:07:32.320 very involved and had a deal and it was going to be put to the unions for a vote now there's essentially

00:07:38.860 12 different unions and correct me if i'm wrong there's around 100 000 or 115 000 members of the union

00:07:45.800 that would be eligible to vote on on these on the uh on the deal is that roughly correct that is correct

00:07:52.300 there's about 115 000 employees that were um members that were eligible for vote and the railroads and

00:08:01.120 the government continue to talk about how eight of these unions already ratified it's it's a little

00:08:06.880 disturbing because it's still over 50 50 percent of the membership has not ratified or failed

00:08:13.840 ratification so some of the largest unions in america voted against the tentative agreements

00:08:19.760 um and in the number one go ahead sorry because the four the four that didn't ratify were some of

00:08:25.660 the biggest parts of it including yours now did yours did your your rank and file did they ratify the

00:08:33.600 the the deal they did not ratify the deal um they voted against it

00:08:38.480 now was the reason that people voted against it at the time was it had it just come down to the sick

00:08:45.700 leave days is that what it came down to it was a basic uh the basic issue um some of it you know

00:08:51.860 of course with inflation as high as it is we had a decent wage package it was 24 percent compounded

00:08:59.280 but that's over five years and so if you evaluate that out it's it barely keeps up with

00:09:04.400 the reported inflation numbers i would argue that inflation is quite a bit higher than what the

00:09:09.000 reported numbers are but with that being said our members are suffering um they average 31 an hour and

00:09:15.040 this is some of the highest skilled labor in america uh steve i'm pretty sure you understand that 31

00:09:20.740 an hour is not enough for for the highest skilled labor that are our employees perform

00:09:25.740 well particularly when it can't keep up with inflation that's the issue but here's why did the if

00:09:32.940 went through all this negotiation here's i think it it's it's hard to keep up with this for the

00:09:38.640 audience if biden and these guys got involved and they said they had a deal and then clearly they

00:09:46.240 didn't have a deal because i think even yours wasn't it wasn't like 51 49 it was you know more like

00:09:51.660 close to 60 40 so the rank and file rejected this and particularly the bigger the bigger segments

00:09:58.900 the bigger unions of the you know the four out they're the bigger um there clearly is dissatisfaction

00:10:05.700 in the rank and file you would agree with that there's dissatisfaction and there should have never

00:10:10.860 been a report that a deal was done um it wasn't it were a democratic union in the sense that the

00:10:18.080 majority wins and the majority of the membership hadn't voted yet so any reports that the deal was done

00:10:23.900 and finalized was just simply not true um we told and warned both the white house and and the uh in

00:10:32.680 triple c which is the bargaining unit for the railroads that this was going to be an extremely

00:10:36.960 complex agreement to try to get ratified uh that there wasn't enough in it and particularly because

00:10:42.660 of the sick leave we we negotiated during what they called a cooling off period after after the

00:10:48.460 presidential emergency board which is the recommendations that we got uh were issued we

00:10:53.960 have a 30-day cooling off period and during that time we negotiated with the railroads to try to

00:10:58.420 make an agreement and in doing so we we told them that the agreement was less than satisfactory

00:11:03.780 uh they seemed to all believe that it was good enough and we warned them that it was going to be

00:11:09.000 difficult to ratify the agreement and the agreements were at failed ratification

00:11:12.680 so failed ratification then the day they step in and let me understand this and by the way your guys

00:11:19.380 your men and women have never had sick leave at all right if you get sick it's a day off you don't get

00:11:25.180 you don't get paid for it is that do i understand that correctly yeah the the duopoly gigantic railroads

00:11:32.460 are are claiming that we have sick leave which is just not true we have um you know we have short-term

00:11:37.820 disability just like any other large corporation uh in the world or any other union um we have no sick

00:11:44.980 days so if you're sick uh if you if if a railroad member is sick and and falls ill tomorrow from the

00:11:53.180 flu and he's out for a day of work two days of work he will not get compensated and he has to go to

00:11:59.620 work the policies from the railroad require him to be at work the uh the the the railroads have cut

00:12:08.100 back so far under their operating scheme it's called precision scheduled railroading they cut back so far

00:12:14.260 with in if we've lost about 40 000 members total in the industry in the matter of a couple of years

00:12:20.780 it cuts to the bare bones and in doing so they can't afford to have an employee sick if an employee

00:12:27.280 is sick then the train doesn't move or the crew doesn't work because they're at very the very

00:12:32.820 minimum there's no backup there's no backstop so in other words um it because of the operating system

00:12:39.300 the policies have been put into place to force people to go to work sick you call in sick you will

00:12:45.680 get written up and just and after so many you'll get disciplined and so it's forcing it's forcing us to

00:12:53.020 have to have sick leave in the industry so you're not forced to go to work sick i want to go back to

00:12:58.760 this precision scheduling because we had charles stalworth on for a couple of times when this was

00:13:02.660 first going on and he was saying hey one of the biggest problems here they're not addressing is

00:13:06.780 this they should have at least two it's all about automation everything's getting automated they're

00:13:11.700 trying to take all the labor out right and one of the big things they're doing with you guys but

00:13:15.520 they're also doing it inside the train itself and he was concerned about train safety saying hey look

00:13:20.900 right now it's just they just got one guy with the computer right they eventually want to get

00:13:25.840 uh both people out just have it run automatically is is that a stumbling block for the deal or people

00:13:31.460 just kicking the can down the road on that it it it was kicked down the can was kicked down the road

00:13:38.120 um we have we've asked for intervention and and and and to solidify two-man crews um i fight with our

00:13:46.200 brothers in the unions brothers and sisters on the trains um i i don't represent them nor do i speak

00:13:52.360 for them but from somebody that knows the industry um it's it's alarming they will the lack of a red

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00:15:01.020 take action use your agency okay here's your host stephen k van okay my guest is tony uh cardwell by the

00:15:10.740 way we have lara logan on deck ben uh burkholm on deck trying to get to the uh also uh carolyn

00:15:16.040 rent and some of the folks in arizona a lot going on but we got to get we got to make sure we

00:15:20.040 understand this because it's quite confusing um so there's two bills one it just stops the strike

00:15:26.200 and that's the reason because the 1929 law and there was a lot of obvious contention around that

00:15:31.620 because of the national security aspect of the railroad system and that got quite um contentious

00:15:37.200 let's say that right with the military all of it since then they got the government's got the

00:15:41.960 ability to come in and just shut down so you can't go out but you've got the second part which is the

00:15:46.820 seven days of the sick leave uh which your rank your members uh agree to or want but you're going to

00:15:55.320 take a vote you're going to you need a vote in the senate to pass that and to do that you got to

00:15:59.780 break filibuster so you need 10 republicans is that essentially where we are tonight

00:16:03.540 it is correct as you know and as you're i'm sure your members are your viewers are are pretty

00:16:10.160 educated about this process but we we have to get 60 votes in the senate so um it's likely that we get

00:16:17.480 all of the republicans you know you always wonder with joe manchin and in cinema but we ultimately

00:16:23.200 believe that we we've got the democrats on board um but i really want it to be a non-partisan issue

00:16:29.020 it's unfortunate it has to be partisan in these situations um because it's just simply about

00:16:33.960 standing with the workers now the senators that are going to be voting on this need to remember

00:16:38.160 that they're voting with the thousands of railroakers that live in their in their in their 1.00

00:16:43.620 territories and so are you going to the question for them is this are you going to stand with the

00:16:49.400 workers that you represent are you going to stand with these giant corporations and that's the

00:16:54.620 question at stake and for something that's just common decency hard-working members that work out

00:17:00.860 in the elements and whatnot and and need sick leave it's it's a reasonable request this isn't you know

00:17:07.960 so i know some of the typical union um issues that have historically been in place who are fighting over

00:17:13.860 things that are are political and whatnot this is this is a non-political issue um and and we challenge

00:17:19.640 republicans to stand with us on this issue stand with the blue collar workers um if you're going to

00:17:25.380 gain support from the unions and you're going to win back votes from the unions you have to stand with

00:17:31.400 us on these labor issues they're serious labor issues um and we're hopeful that we'll get the

00:17:36.580 votes for it we're working hard and we do have some republicans with us our goal is to gain as many

00:17:41.120 votes as we possibly can so for the josh hollies uh for for rubio all those we appreciate that

00:17:47.940 they're they're they're um what they've said on on publicly we're hopeful that they stick to their

00:17:53.380 word that they vote with us we're hopeful that you know john can be another and with us as well

00:17:58.380 but here's the question so maybe you help enlighten you know we pride ourselves of being the populist

00:18:06.000 nationalist wing of this party or this movement and uh and and you got josh holley's a young fire

00:18:12.920 breathing populist got marco rubio's got more populist over time and so here's the confusion

00:18:18.680 explain to us when they're sitting and tweeting out as soon as this thing was done they tweet at

00:18:23.480 immediately so they're on this and they say hey why should we support the union leaders and the biden

00:18:32.540 guys that have put this together when the rank and file has voted against this uh you know i'm not

00:18:39.040 saying overwhelmingly but in a day where you're you're down to thousands of votes in arizona and

00:18:43.380 everywhere across the country it was a pretty big spread for your members as populist why should we

00:18:50.240 go against the rank and file and support the bosses the biden administration and it looks like even the

00:18:56.860 corporations why should they do that or are you saying that this that this uh sick leave if they had

00:19:05.920 that they would have voted for it because i think there's a lot of confusion here about exactly what

00:19:09.700 the workers themselves wanted versus and particularly in a partisan age when you get biden and schumer and

00:19:15.900 pelosi you know coming together for something you kind of feel the fixes in sir yeah no our members were

00:19:23.040 were polled and they wanted this we talked in thousands of of calls um we had numerous uh town hall

00:19:30.260 meetings with hundreds of members on the calls and then there were several issues i mean the members do want

00:19:35.660 other things but the number one issue was sick leave it was consistent across the board and the thing

00:19:41.720 that i would challenge these folks with the populist group is that our our our members are are are largely

00:19:50.040 uh work in conservative states and are many of them are conservatives and populists themselves and

00:19:56.840 they want this they believe that it's the right thing to do um we represent members in nebraska and

00:20:03.140 colorado and all these different states where you have large groups of very conservative individuals

00:20:09.120 that would that would love to vote for these guys and believe in them but they are going to we we are

00:20:14.820 expecting a roll call vote and our expectation is for republicans to start standing with labor

00:20:20.600 and then we have no problem supporting them or or or making sure that votes go their way

00:20:26.080 or pushing votes their way that's important that they stand with labor if they don't and they stand with the

00:20:31.880 corporations and the two up ways then we have a problem and i don't think that the populist uh

00:20:37.020 the populist movement supports these gigantic corporations and their in their extreme lockdown

00:20:43.100 control over the bureaucrats in washington if that's the case and then go ahead and challenge me steve

00:20:49.260 you're you're you're the leader of this movement so challenge me on it but no i look i i one of the

00:20:54.400 things i think we would like to see more fight on this precision this whole thing about precision

00:20:58.740 scheduling and all this we're very opposed to automation coming in and taking out high value

00:21:05.740 added jobs this is what's going to kill this economy quicker than anything to turn over to these

00:21:09.820 ai and the quantum computing and all that and you don't particularly in something like when you when

00:21:15.720 you're tripling or doubling the size of the of the train loads and the trains and you're uh you're

00:21:20.380 carrying a lot of dangerous chemicals that need to be shipped across the country for industrial

00:21:24.540 production safety is at the forefront and it looks like people are avoiding that and kicking it down

00:21:30.800 the road and that ought to be central but i gotta tell you that you you don't have the backing when

00:21:34.780 pelosi these guys can step in and basically shut down and don't let you guys go out you you kind of

00:21:40.540 you you have very little leverage are you open to talk to people like senator hawley and rubio and

00:21:47.700 those types are you open are you making calls are you gonna are you and the other four big parts of

00:21:53.200 the union that didn't pass this are you going to make yourselves available to talk to them or has

00:21:57.680 everything got to go through uh biden's labor secretary marty walsh yeah i have some of our people

00:22:04.400 in dc right now doing some lobby work i had to be home today for uh some of the interviews and other

00:22:09.740 things that i had to do i'm going to be there tonight i'm flying into dc tonight and our goal is to

00:22:15.080 get any conversations with any republicans in the senate that we can to discuss our issues um our

00:22:21.600 our general president has has been actively working the hill as well um the general president of the

00:22:27.120 ibt uh is sean o'brien has been extremely active in trying to get the republicans uh to join join us on

00:22:35.280 this on this fight as well we'll take anyone that we can get to to stand with working class americans

00:22:41.780 uh it's a non-partisan issue in my opinion and so i would be more than willing to sit down and talk

00:22:48.960 with them if they want me there if they want to talk tonight i'm available if they want to talk

00:22:53.920 tomorrow i'm available um and we do have to come together even after this is over to work with these

00:23:00.160 folks to break the backs of these operating systems on the railroad that are destructive and unsafe

00:23:04.980 it's unacceptable it's unacceptable it's unacceptable the it's only going to get more dangerous you're

00:23:13.680 only going to have more casualties uh and it doesn't have to happen that's all that is about

00:23:18.740 squeezing out higher margins on this and uh we understand companies got to make a profit we're

00:23:23.700 capitalists here but you can't have one person on one of these trains on a computer as many glitches

00:23:30.380 as computers can have and you certainly can't go where they want to go which they want to take all the

00:23:34.160 humans out of the process that's quite obvious they're trying to do it in every industry out

00:23:37.500 there tony we got to bounce what's your social media tony so people can follow you as this thing

00:23:42.540 kind of comes to a climax yeah just you can go to our website at bmwe.org um you can follow us on

00:23:49.880 facebook as well um we are on all the all the various different social media um and we're we're

00:23:56.840 publishing things you know by the minute we're trying to keep uh all the discussions and voting that's

00:24:02.240 going on right now in the senate and available for our membership but it's available for the general

00:24:08.100 public as well and we're excited that we've been able to successfully bring our message um to to the

00:24:15.500 general you know general general populace out there it's exciting because railroad hasn't got

00:24:20.920 the railroad labor hasn't got this much attention since the you know for for many many years so we're

00:24:26.200 excited that our message is getting out there and people are understanding this fight

00:24:29.460 and we plan on continuing even after this is uh even after this is over tony thank you very much

00:24:37.340 for joining us appreciate it thank you i appreciate it thanks for your time steve sir thanks brother

00:24:42.380 let's go to uh let's go to ben burquam he's on the road again he's down as one of his favorite places

00:24:47.240 eagle pass texas uh you're with constable bowles what's going on down there ben you know you're you've

00:24:53.480 been doing great work laboring in the vineyard in arizona you had to go down because we got an

00:24:58.740 invasion on the southern border last time i looked sir yeah it continues steve i was just with the

00:25:05.420 america project yesterday they announced their lawsuit in arizona and they actually came to texas

00:25:09.160 today to announce a lawsuit on behalf of property owners across the border uh against the the washington

00:25:15.140 dc and the bureaucrats that have dereliction of their duty of uh committed dereliction of their duty

00:25:20.220 and and just to give you an example i'm here with deputy secretary or excuse me deputy constable

00:25:25.080 bulls uh constable you were talking this is shocking steve talk to us about the numbers that

00:25:30.520 you guys are seeing and what you expect uh once title 42 goes away uh right now ben as uh what we're

00:25:37.640 seeing here local law enforcement all up and down the border here in maverick county we're experiencing

00:25:42.420 on a slow day about a thousand to fifteen hundred people crossing and that's a slow day uh on a on a

00:25:48.940 heavy traffic day we're looking at upwards of three thousand plus per day and these are the people that

00:25:55.420 are that are uh turning themselves in these are the people that that want that are what they call

00:26:01.340 them the give ups uh they're basically turning themselves in for processing because they're knowing

00:26:05.640 that they're going to be processed and they're going to be released into the united states the other

00:26:09.720 side of the coin is if we have a thousand people crossing a day uh that give themselves up to turn

00:26:16.280 themselves in we've got at least a thousand if not more that are getting by that are not being

00:26:20.800 processed that are being uh smuggled in using more and more uh complex smuggling operations and we've

00:26:27.940 seen that uh the numbers of the the human smuggling uh have increased two three times at least uh since

00:26:34.660 the last time you were here uh since the last time we spoke back earlier this year hang on one second

00:26:39.980 we're taking a short commercial break we're gonna go back to eagle pass texas about the invasion

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00:28:31.440 here's your host stephen k back okay welcome back you're in the worm go back to eagle pass texas

00:28:39.220 so constable here's where i don't understand we got lara logan coming for a second who's fighting 0.88

00:28:44.640 this fight every day you know i love my state of virginia people love florida tennessee wherever

00:28:50.900 they're from they love their home state they love the college football teams there's deep affinity

00:28:54.780 but texas is even different i'll be honest sometimes the charms of texas are lost on me

00:29:00.100 compared to some of my friends that live there that absolutely say it's paradise on earth okay

00:29:04.760 how can people in texas yes and particularly abbott and republicans and paxton and all these guys and

00:29:11.600 all the other officials and even the at least how can they allow this to happen because what you've

00:29:17.460 described is an exponential growth in this this is not only not getting worse it's not stopping

00:29:22.360 it's it's increasing at an increasing rate so how can texans let's leave biden these guys aside

00:29:29.400 for a second how can texans allow this to happen and not have your back

00:29:33.220 well uh first of all sir the as uh as a texan uh i love my state and god bless texas texas is one of

00:29:44.420 the few states that is actually trying to do something about the border issue that we're having

00:29:49.040 right now not a not so much a border issue border crisis is what we're having uh governor abbott's one

00:29:55.000 of the few governors that's actually trying to do something by deploying the national guard

00:29:59.080 down here to the texas national guard of the southern border also by sending uh deploying the

00:30:05.400 dps the texas department of public safety down here to assist uh the national guard and and to assist

00:30:11.620 the border patrol but the the problem that we that we're having is texans is we're just as mad

00:30:18.700 as everybody else is we don't like this it's what this issue what's happening this has never happened

00:30:25.000 before uh in my lifetime i've seen uh maybe one time it happened about 20 years ago where we kind

00:30:32.580 of had a similar issue with uh people coming across the border from south america but that didn't last

00:30:37.680 very long but the sheer numbers that are coming across within the past two years year and a half

00:30:42.620 are incredible and as texans we're we're not upset about it we're mad we're very angry at what's

00:30:49.900 happening because we're seeing more and more issues with people coming across all the border communities

00:30:55.660 most the majority of the border communities along the texas mexico border are small communities eagle

00:31:02.100 pass is only a community of about 40 to 50 000 people and we have about anywhere between several

00:31:07.860 thousand people coming through per day multiplied that uh by 30 you're looking at anywhere between

00:31:14.440 150 to 200 000 people sometimes coming in per month that's what's crossing through up and through this

00:31:20.780 border and the numbers are amazing all up and down the texas border here we're looking at the size of

00:31:26.280 eagle pass crossing about every 15 to 20 days uh here and those numbers that are crossing on a slow day

00:31:33.360 we'll have a thousand to 1500 people crossing but hang on and i understand biden's only exacerbating

00:31:40.240 this i mean we've said that this is the first issue that we need that we feel needs to be

00:31:44.200 investigated to lead to impeachment of garland mayorkas and biden ultimately okay but given that

00:31:50.760 have texas officials from abbott on down with national guard uh the dps the texas rangers state

00:31:58.660 militia everything do you believe that they've had your back the local people to do everything

00:32:04.420 utmost this is not a small thing you just talk about 200 000 people we had the mayor of valde texas

00:32:10.540 those kids before they were slaughtered in that school they had 50 50 lockdowns because of illegal

00:32:17.480 aliens coming through and the police chasing them the people down there are not living the life even

00:32:22.960 close to the life they could live you're shattering texans and texans and these young kids are being

00:32:29.000 impacted they'll never i mean what's happening to them and the fear and the anxiety and the uncertainty

00:32:35.720 what's going on the community are going to is changing their lives forever we'll never be able

00:32:39.860 to put that back in the bottle do you believe i know the federal government not only doesn't have

00:32:44.800 your back they're working against you but do the senior officials in texas are they doing we have to

00:32:51.880 go to extreme measures now you can't do this with half measures do people are people taking this as a

00:32:58.440 crisis when you tell me 200 000 people that's larger sir than the army that landed at normandy

00:33:03.640 on d-day right these are massive numbers of a scale incomprehensible is everything that can be

00:33:11.120 done at a senior level to have your back being done sir

00:33:13.840 well uh first of all sir i i know that governor abbott is is trying his best and but at the same

00:33:25.020 time uh god bless the border patrol they're trying their best too but the problem that we have is that

00:33:30.380 the sheer number of people that are coming across there is no real deterrent for them there is nothing

00:33:36.280 holding them back to stop them from coming across from coming across the southern border here in eagle

00:33:42.720 past we have the rio grande river which is our border very obvious there is nothing really to

00:33:47.820 stop them once they hit the water and once they start coming across to physically push them back

00:33:52.900 or to keep them physically from crossing so that's why uh the border patrol feels feels very frustrated

00:33:59.820 because before they would apprehend detain and and use whatever means necessary to deal with the

00:34:04.800 person and and and deal with them along the immigration side using immigration laws now they've got

00:34:11.400 basically one hand tied behind their back and they're trying to do their best but they're

00:34:15.500 overwhelmed and now local law enforcement and state authorities are having to deal with along with

00:34:20.620 the texas national guard but the numbers don't stop and there's no way once there's there's really no

00:34:26.640 way right now to stop them from coming across even with the national guard being here even with the dps

00:34:32.640 trying to help up the texas dps just like you said very extreme measures have to be taken now

00:34:38.800 and the the governor governor ab excuse me for interrupting sir but governor ab just a couple weeks

00:34:43.560 ago what we're looking what we're looking for is he just declared an invasion now what does that mean

00:34:50.500 in simple terms well it's granted to the constitution there's certain authorities granted to the states

00:34:57.220 uh by the u.s constitution that allows individual states to do that and to my knowledge this has

00:35:03.200 only been done once before i believe in many many years ago but that's what it's going to have to

00:35:08.620 take now what we're hoping for local law enforcement is for the state authorities governor abbott granting

00:35:14.140 the texas dps and the national guard giving them even more resources or or more uh whatever they need

00:35:22.440 uh in order to assist us in in trying to contain all these people coming across because the vast

00:35:29.940 numbers that we're seeing the the norm along the border has been disrupted it's no longer normal

00:35:35.080 there's been a disruption like you can't believe with the sheer numbers of people coming across

00:35:40.020 we can't deal with it we need lots of assistance and there's no there there's no foreseeable end in

00:35:45.900 sight and and that's what we're hoping for we're looking we're looking to our state uh to governor

00:35:51.840 abbott to help us and hopefully he's taking steps in the right direction even more than what he's

00:35:56.560 doing right now we're glad for what he's doing but the problem is so bad that just like you said

00:36:03.340 extreme measures are going to have to be taken in order to try and avert what's going on right now

00:36:09.020 and steve if i could just jump in on that real quick this i mean what we're talking about is the

00:36:15.060 governor needs to not just declare the invasion but use these national guard troops which are right

00:36:20.400 over here to our left to repel the invasion he i sat in a meeting where he told us he looked

00:36:24.740 the audience in the room and it was a bunch of sheriffs and law enforcement from across the state

00:36:28.140 and he said we're sending down the national guards they're going to repel the invasion that's what he

00:36:32.880 needs to do at this point he has not done that but that when you talk about extreme measures we

00:36:37.160 cannot keep accepting this in we are bleeding out as a nation and and these communities are dying

00:36:42.540 because of it you're destroying but ben you set us up with the mayor of all that you're destroying 0.55

00:36:47.040 these communities you're destroying these kids and texas is one of the places have the highest

00:36:52.740 percentage of people volunteering for the military i mean texas is the backbone of the nation you're

00:36:57.320 destroying generations of kids that are being robbed of their childhoods look when the young

00:37:03.380 children that were slaughtered in that school in ovalde when you find that they had 50 lockdowns in

00:37:10.620 the in there that's one a week lockdowns because of illegal aliens and the media then they talk about

00:37:15.900 that how's their lives even affected affected before that you can't live like that it's like

00:37:22.500 you're living in a war zone texas is not a war zone these children are citizens of the united states

00:37:27.660 they do the other thing i want to get to constable we'll move some other stuff around because i want 0.99

00:37:33.040 to finish this the sophistication we're not dealing with a bunch of morons the cartels are one of the 0.96

00:37:40.480 most adaptive sophisticated uh groups in the world they deal with the chinese tongs these are this is a 0.98

00:37:47.880 paramilitary operation more sophisticated i would say than even what we had to deal with in afghanistan

00:37:54.820 and with al-qaeda and isis this is very adaptive very sophisticated very technology savvy and they got a

00:38:03.100 lot of cash okay talk to me about how they've adapted over the last year since we visited you early and

00:38:09.220 you're talking about three times more most of that's driven by the cartels how have they adapted

00:38:15.420 to actually improve their operations to the detriment of the citizens of texas sir

00:38:20.280 well i'll give you two examples i was talking to ben a little while ago one example is on the northern

00:38:27.880 part of maverick county i'm talking here locally what we're seeing is on the northern part of our county

00:38:33.420 we have our our processing center our our border patrol processing center which they process several

00:38:39.580 thousand people per day what we've seen in the past several months and we've caught up on it because

00:38:46.440 we learn as well we we learn by our mistakes as well just as everyone else the smugglers are crossing

00:38:53.260 people closer in areas in very close proximity to the processing center so that they know these people

00:39:00.240 will get picked up quicker and will be processed even quicker and more efficiently and will be released

00:39:05.620 into the u.s rather before as going back into earlier in the year we had people crossing all up and down

00:39:10.980 the border here when ben was here the last time earlier in the year right here where we were standing

00:39:17.060 we were seeing between anywhere between 25 to 50 people crossing per hour and right now those numbers

00:39:23.200 have uh have pretty much come to a standstill we're seeing uh the smugglers have gotten more uh

00:39:29.900 more smarter uh they've gotten more complex they've studied us more and they know what areas are safe to cross

00:39:36.680 where they can cross large numbers of people at all at the same time and where uh in these locations

00:39:43.680 where they're crossing them they know that border patrol is there they know that the national guard is there

00:39:48.500 or they know that local law enforcement will be there to receive these people so they won't be in

00:39:53.000 danger and steve this goes right back to secretary maracas joe biden their idea of controlled flow

00:39:58.880 the reason the cartel is able to do this the cartel is making more money than they ever have in history

00:40:03.320 but it's because we've greased the skids the the idea of controlled flow what democrats in washington dc

00:40:08.840 are doing are as incentivizing more of it we're simply throwing out carrots for them to come and get

00:40:13.920 and we're making it easier that's what we're seeing come through here uh it's just like todd

00:40:18.600 bensman's article and alden was reporting on that the reason that they're they're claiming asylum on

00:40:22.620 the mexico side and coming through across the bridge right above us partly that way is because

00:40:27.160 joe biden these democrats don't want you to see it but this is all we're doing is stuffing money

00:40:32.300 into the cartel's pockets to enrich them and to make them more powerful as you said

00:40:36.040 council let me ask you i read a uh it was classified for texas not not national classification but a report

00:40:42.980 that was done from a consulting group for dps that said basically in the counties of the rio grand

00:40:48.720 valley and in certain counties in south texas that it was questionable whether local authorities were in

00:40:55.360 control or the cartels are in control i want to hold you through the break get a minute are the

00:40:59.740 cartels actually more in control now of our southern border than either federal or state officials sir

00:41:06.540 yes yes they are the the the sheer numbers of people that are coming across the the vast amounts of

00:41:19.120 wealth they are generating uh in crossing uh in crossing the in the human smuggling element and also in the

00:41:26.940 illegal narcotics element the the number of illegal narcotics coming across has also increased

00:41:32.540 tenfold uh the dps puts that out constantly and it is true all up and down the border where we're

00:41:39.480 seeing large groups come in we're seeing it here in eagle pass as well through our ports of entry as

00:41:44.500 well too in del rio and eagle pass laredo they're capturing record numbers of uh of drugs coming across

00:41:51.180 the border uh record numbers coming across to the river it's it's amazing and and all this just

00:41:57.480 generates more and more money for for the cartel and it just it basically gives them a blank check

00:42:03.600 to study and move on and increase their wealth constable bulls why don't you hang on ben burquam

00:42:10.100 we're going to return they're talking they're arguing up here about another 40 billion dollars

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00:45:00.760 war room mypillow.com promo code war room um as uh the war room audience let's say this they're a little

00:45:09.420 perturbed okay because they're action action action in their beloved country we have a huge audience in

00:45:15.380 texas that loves texas like nobody else loves their state it's just incredible the loyalty and patriotism

00:45:22.000 and pride of the folks in texas about their great state and and what's what's being allowed to happen

00:45:27.120 to it by biden this isn't i've said this now for a year and a half right when he came in in this

00:45:33.200 illegitimate regime and started changing everything president trump had done and we tried to accomplish

00:45:38.620 at the border and at least had some semblance of control uh this is an invasion of the united states

00:45:44.080 and on capitol hill right now there's these huge fights and power plays going on we do report on it

00:45:48.820 every day one of the things in this omnibus bill they're talking i don't know 30 40 billion dollars

00:45:54.400 for ukraine more more arms more more relief for the folks in ukraine and uh and yet no discussion

00:46:01.400 of our southern border there's an invasion on the southern border of the united states i gotta tell you

00:46:06.340 the 12 or 13 generations that came before us would spit on the floor in disgust about what all of us

00:46:14.440 allow have allowed to happen i realize people are saying hey i'm fighting it i'm fighting it

00:46:18.160 but this has got to stop and here's one of the most disturbing things and you know lara logan

00:46:23.720 we're trying to track her down having some technical problems she's going to be 1.00

00:46:27.180 on here talking about this situation in uh uh with this spanish or french fashion company it's got all

00:46:33.360 this uh awful stuff about children you know people don't have a conspiracy theories and we're not

00:46:38.220 conspiracy theory guys on here we say there are no coincidences but there's no conspiracies

00:46:42.500 and people mock q and all the people do q but hey when you see a report yesterday ben burquam

00:46:48.020 and constable about from an h from a federal whistleblower to project veritas and she's sitting

00:46:55.740 there talking about hhs and turning over the massive trafficking of young people up through this border

00:47:02.460 our border and government officials looking the other way trafficking for sex trafficking i helped build

00:47:08.300 that wall in el paso texas right there up the side of the mountain where the cartels brought across

00:47:12.700 burquam you were there with me you saw all the horrible stuff that was left behind of the torture

00:47:18.900 of these children and the sexual exploitation of these children and that had all happened and all

00:47:24.120 happened and we're looking the other way right and you see what he what they've done and you go to

00:47:29.200 houston you go down houston they say in this house there's 41 unaccompanied minors with these 0.99

00:47:34.420 traffickers in this house there's 21 on our watch with our tax dollars it's disgusting ben burquam

00:47:41.540 and then constable what what is the veritas revelations of now out in the open in the u.s

00:47:47.300 government as a partner to these traffickers well what it is steve is the tip of the iceberg of the

00:47:53.980 largest human trafficking and child trafficking uh operation in world history that's being orchestrated

00:48:00.380 by joe biden secretary marcus and the democrats of washington dc joe biden is the largest human

00:48:05.120 trafficker in the world right now because of his policies and it's a small fraction of what we're

00:48:09.560 seeing i spoke to a woman and i have a friend who actually works in the orr the unaccompanied minors

00:48:14.880 program she's getting us contact and content every day on what's happening there and what she's telling

00:48:20.260 me is they're basically not doing any background checks on anyone who's requesting these kids because

00:48:24.740 as you heard from constable bulls they are so overwhelmed they the floodgates are open these guys can't

00:48:29.560 handle it and and really what they're doing is as you mentioned we're profiting the cartels in mexico

00:48:34.320 but the cartels are in america they are running these sex trafficking operations in america and we

00:48:39.280 are simply giving these children to them to be trafficked it is evil pure and simple it is evil

00:48:45.080 it is evil constable bulls your your observations

00:48:48.560 my observation on this series is firsthand just yesterday i came across two children one nine one six

00:48:57.380 a nine-year-old girl and her six-year-old little brother and it disgusts me uh to know that this

00:49:04.620 is going on they uh these two little kids were crossed on the border and just basically left there

00:49:10.540 to fend for themselves and if i hadn't been on patrol and seen them they i asked them how long

00:49:15.620 they've been there they said they they had no idea and what what are they being left to just being

00:49:22.080 left for someone to find them uh who's taking care of them uh their parents where are they they're

00:49:28.300 coming into this country and they're being processed as unaccompanied children and a lot of times they

00:49:34.260 have addresses where they're going to or or uh what we hope is a relative that they're going to someone

00:49:41.080 that will care for them but ultimately we have no idea or how to honestly verify that and this is the

00:49:47.380 scary part and to me uh i'm a father of two i have two sons and it's disgusting to for me to even just

00:49:54.980 think about that what's going on and i know it's happening because we get reports about that all the

00:50:00.280 time the the the kids that are coming across they're traumatized they're scared they're with

00:50:05.520 their parents without their parents uh they're crossing hundreds if not thousands of miles over

00:50:11.440 several borders to get to the u.s border and once they get here the the many of them they're going

00:50:18.060 to live with that trauma that who knows what they've been through a little just example those two two

00:50:24.100 children the nine nine-year-old girl and six-year-old boy who knows what they went through they were from

00:50:28.620 honduras and they came all the way up from honduras up to here to eagle pass and crossed the border and

00:50:34.760 someone crossed them across the river and literally left them on the side of the river and i just happened to

00:50:39.800 be driving by and came upon them there so this is what's happening here and now yeah and and it's

00:50:46.640 it's disgusting and it upsets me very much constable we got to bounce is there any way for social media

00:50:52.520 of how people can follow you or find out more about what's going on down there uh right now here we're

00:50:59.560 we're down here in maverick county uh they can go to the uh local maverick county website or the

00:51:05.380 eagle pass texas website and see see how we're doing down here uh my constable has a facebook page

00:51:12.440 uh constable joe mike biati on facebook and we show what we're doing there we we apprehend a lot

00:51:19.760 of people that show what's going on and we report uh to the best of our ability what's going on so

00:51:25.140 other people can see god bless you sir you're doing god's work trust me you're doing god's work

00:51:30.480 burquam how do we get to you americasvoice.news frontlineamerica.com at ben burquam on

00:51:37.680 everything but parlor at parlor it's at frontline america thank you sir you're indefatigable ben

00:51:42.700 keep working we'll see you tomorrow okay short break we're gonna be back for the second hour

00:51:46.640 lara logan will join us next

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Bannon's War Room - December 01, 2022

Episode 2340： Rail Workers Of America Speak Out; The Chaos Continues At The Border

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