Episode 2340: Rail Workers Of America Speak Out; The Chaos Continues At The Border
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Summary
On today's show, we have a special guest, Tony Cardwell, President of the International Brotherhood of Maintenance Workers Division of the Union Brotherhood of Teamsters International, a labor union representing railroad workers and the unions representing other workers.
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this is the primal scream of a dying regime pray for our enemies because we're going with evil on
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these people here's not got a free shot all these networks lying about the people the people have
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had a belly full of it i know you don't like hearing that i know you try to do everything
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the world to stop that but you're not going to stop it it's going to happen and where do people
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like that go to share the big line mega media i wish in my soul i wish that any of these people
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had a conscience ask yourself what is my task and what is my purpose if that answer is to save my
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country this country will be saved here's your host stephen k vann
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thus it makes sense to moderate the pace of our rate increases as we approach the level of
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restraint that will be sufficient to bring inflation down the time for moderating the
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pace of rate increases may come as soon as the december meeting given our price our progress
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in tightening policy the timing of that moderation is far less significant than the questions of how
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much further we will need to raise rates to control inflation and the length of time it will be
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necessary to hold policy at a restrictive level it is likely that restoring price stability will
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require holding policy at a restrictive level for some time history cautions strongly against
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prematurely loosening policy and i'll close by saying that we will stay the course until the job is done
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thank you it is outrageous that every developed country in the world has paid sick leave except the
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united states of america no one should be at risk of losing his or her job by staying home when sick
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needing to see a doctor or getting life-saving surgery so it is progress the agreement provides some
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time off for routine preventive and emergency medical care but what we need is paid sick leave for
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railroad workers and for every american so today the house will take two important actions first we will
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pass shutdown averting legislation to adopt the tentative agreement as negotiated by the railroad
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companies and labor leaders and again with the administration at the table then we will have a separate
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upper down vote to add seven days of paid sick leave to the tentative agreement okay welcome it is
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wednesday 30 november in the year of our lord 2022 uh pal today i think did a mini pivot a little bit
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blinked uh we're going to get more of that tomorrow to go through the math but uh let's say the federal
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reserve i think put the punch bowl a little bit back the markets responded to that and it looked like they
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kind of blinked about this inflation remember it's the easy money policies the negative interest rates
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the zero interest rates that have really done more destruction to working class people and middle class
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people than virtually anything else and uh now with this fiscal uh spending that's been out of
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control the trains of dollars spent you've seen in the easy money printing uh we've got uh you know
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massive inflation another month i think the 20th month in a row that we've had um negative um
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uh income right inflation higher than net income raises than wages so wages down for 20 months in a row
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on a real basis since 1972 ladies and gentlemen adjusted for inflation i think the average income
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earner in this country has had basically a 12 cent raise this is one of the problems in this nation
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right it's one of the problems in the nation is that the prosperity in this country is not shared it's not
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shared by the working class people it's not shared by really the middle class 0.5 percent of the
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citizens of this nation own more assets more real assets and financial assets than the bottom wait for
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it 90 percent that's exactly the type of oligarchy that we fought a revolution for we didn't want to be
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associated with a royal family in their uh in their big trading companies uh these oligarchs in the
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early stages of the british empire that we're going to do that to the united states of america and yet
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we have done this to ourselves the irony is uh a quite complicated and really uh tough to understand
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labor deal cut today and i wanted to bring in we brought in tony cardwell president of the um
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brotherhood international brotherhood of maintenance way employees division it's a one of the teamsters
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unions one of the 12 unions associated with this and one of the bigger ones i think you tony you have
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27 000 members of the union 23 000 were eligible to vote for this here just explain here's what i think
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people understand why is congress first of all why does congress have any role in a labor negotiation
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between between railroad workers the railroads how does congress step in here and start passing
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legislation next thing you know you quote unquote have a deal yeah that the labor laws were written in
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1929 so they go back you know nearly 100 years and so you're in a situation to where the railroad labor act
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gives congress the ability to make a decision or stop our strike um for the interest of commerce and so
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um they they they have that ability through the law and and unfortunately they have a right to intervene
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i don't think the intent of the law was that they intervene unless there is a real dispute that that
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can be resolved um or something that's being previously asked for in this particular case where
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our request was for sick leave uh with the railroads and so it's frustrating that uh that congress would
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intervene on on on uh something like this but they did today um they they passed a bill that stopped
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our strike our expectation is that if they're going to stop our strike then they have an obligation
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to give us what we would otherwise get any rail strike so if we would have had a rail strike we
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would have gotten sick leave they have an obligation to pass a law to give us the sick leave we otherwise
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would have attained uh with the rail strike okay here's what gets to be the confusing part first off
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describe your part of the union your union what do you guys men and women do how many of them are there
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etc just let our audience i want to audience get a feel for what you represent sure i represent
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27 000 americans some of the hardest working americans that build and maintain the track structures in
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america they do the welding they work in the cold the heat they do all the inspections on the track and
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all the rebuilding and restructuring of the track um they they still swing hammers and and use jacks
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and and lift heavy equipment and operate um operate some of the most complex equipment in america so
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um they're some of the most talented people uh and skilled labor in america and and um they they work in
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all the elements and you know quite frankly it's disturbing that we can't you know that some
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some uh politicians are unwilling to to stand with labor and and these fine people and and give them
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the sick leave that they deserve i think people felt that this thing was settled months ago the
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white house got involved it was before the midterms i think it was in august if july and august they got
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very involved and had a deal and it was going to be put to the unions for a vote now there's essentially
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12 different unions and correct me if i'm wrong there's around 100 000 or 115 000 members of the union
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that would be eligible to vote on on these on the uh on the deal is that roughly correct that is correct
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there's about 115 000 employees that were um members that were eligible for vote and the railroads and
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the government continue to talk about how eight of these unions already ratified it's it's a little
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disturbing because it's still over 50 50 percent of the membership has not ratified or failed
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ratification so some of the largest unions in america voted against the tentative agreements
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um and in the number one go ahead sorry because the four the four that didn't ratify were some of
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the biggest parts of it including yours now did yours did your your rank and file did they ratify the
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the the deal they did not ratify the deal um they voted against it
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now was the reason that people voted against it at the time was it had it just come down to the sick
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leave days is that what it came down to it was a basic uh the basic issue um some of it you know
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of course with inflation as high as it is we had a decent wage package it was 24 percent compounded
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but that's over five years and so if you evaluate that out it's it barely keeps up with
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the reported inflation numbers i would argue that inflation is quite a bit higher than what the
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reported numbers are but with that being said our members are suffering um they average 31 an hour and
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this is some of the highest skilled labor in america uh steve i'm pretty sure you understand that 31
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an hour is not enough for for the highest skilled labor that are our employees perform
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well particularly when it can't keep up with inflation that's the issue but here's why did the if
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went through all this negotiation here's i think it it's it's hard to keep up with this for the
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audience if biden and these guys got involved and they said they had a deal and then clearly they
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didn't have a deal because i think even yours wasn't it wasn't like 51 49 it was you know more like
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close to 60 40 so the rank and file rejected this and particularly the bigger the bigger segments
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the bigger unions of the you know the four out they're the bigger um there clearly is dissatisfaction
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in the rank and file you would agree with that there's dissatisfaction and there should have never
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been a report that a deal was done um it wasn't it were a democratic union in the sense that the
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majority wins and the majority of the membership hadn't voted yet so any reports that the deal was done
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and finalized was just simply not true um we told and warned both the white house and and the uh in
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triple c which is the bargaining unit for the railroads that this was going to be an extremely
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complex agreement to try to get ratified uh that there wasn't enough in it and particularly because
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of the sick leave we we negotiated during what they called a cooling off period after after the
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presidential emergency board which is the recommendations that we got uh were issued we
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have a 30-day cooling off period and during that time we negotiated with the railroads to try to
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make an agreement and in doing so we we told them that the agreement was less than satisfactory
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uh they seemed to all believe that it was good enough and we warned them that it was going to be
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difficult to ratify the agreement and the agreements were at failed ratification
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so failed ratification then the day they step in and let me understand this and by the way your guys
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your men and women have never had sick leave at all right if you get sick it's a day off you don't get
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you don't get paid for it is that do i understand that correctly yeah the the duopoly gigantic railroads
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are are claiming that we have sick leave which is just not true we have um you know we have short-term
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disability just like any other large corporation uh in the world or any other union um we have no sick
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days so if you're sick uh if you if if a railroad member is sick and and falls ill tomorrow from the
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flu and he's out for a day of work two days of work he will not get compensated and he has to go to
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work the policies from the railroad require him to be at work the uh the the the railroads have cut
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back so far under their operating scheme it's called precision scheduled railroading they cut back so far
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with in if we've lost about 40 000 members total in the industry in the matter of a couple of years
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it cuts to the bare bones and in doing so they can't afford to have an employee sick if an employee
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is sick then the train doesn't move or the crew doesn't work because they're at very the very
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minimum there's no backup there's no backstop so in other words um it because of the operating system
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the policies have been put into place to force people to go to work sick you call in sick you will
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get written up and just and after so many you'll get disciplined and so it's forcing it's forcing us to
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have to have sick leave in the industry so you're not forced to go to work sick i want to go back to
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this precision scheduling because we had charles stalworth on for a couple of times when this was
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first going on and he was saying hey one of the biggest problems here they're not addressing is
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this they should have at least two it's all about automation everything's getting automated they're
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trying to take all the labor out right and one of the big things they're doing with you guys but
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they're also doing it inside the train itself and he was concerned about train safety saying hey look
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right now it's just they just got one guy with the computer right they eventually want to get
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uh both people out just have it run automatically is is that a stumbling block for the deal or people
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just kicking the can down the road on that it it it was kicked down the can was kicked down the road
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um we have we've asked for intervention and and and and to solidify two-man crews um i fight with our
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brothers in the unions brothers and sisters on the trains um i i don't represent them nor do i speak
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for them but from somebody that knows the industry um it's it's alarming they will the lack of a red
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take action use your agency okay here's your host stephen k van okay my guest is tony uh cardwell by the
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way we have lara logan on deck ben uh burkholm on deck trying to get to the uh also uh carolyn
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rent and some of the folks in arizona a lot going on but we got to get we got to make sure we
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understand this because it's quite confusing um so there's two bills one it just stops the strike
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and that's the reason because the 1929 law and there was a lot of obvious contention around that
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because of the national security aspect of the railroad system and that got quite um contentious
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let's say that right with the military all of it since then they got the government's got the
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ability to come in and just shut down so you can't go out but you've got the second part which is the
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seven days of the sick leave uh which your rank your members uh agree to or want but you're going to
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take a vote you're going to you need a vote in the senate to pass that and to do that you got to
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break filibuster so you need 10 republicans is that essentially where we are tonight
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it is correct as you know and as you're i'm sure your members are your viewers are are pretty
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educated about this process but we we have to get 60 votes in the senate so um it's likely that we get
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all of the republicans you know you always wonder with joe manchin and in cinema but we ultimately
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believe that we we've got the democrats on board um but i really want it to be a non-partisan issue
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it's unfortunate it has to be partisan in these situations um because it's just simply about
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standing with the workers now the senators that are going to be voting on this need to remember
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that they're voting with the thousands of railroakers that live in their in their in their
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territories and so are you going to the question for them is this are you going to stand with the
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workers that you represent are you going to stand with these giant corporations and that's the
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question at stake and for something that's just common decency hard-working members that work out
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in the elements and whatnot and and need sick leave it's it's a reasonable request this isn't you know
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so i know some of the typical union um issues that have historically been in place who are fighting over
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things that are are political and whatnot this is this is a non-political issue um and and we challenge
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republicans to stand with us on this issue stand with the blue collar workers um if you're going to
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gain support from the unions and you're going to win back votes from the unions you have to stand with
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us on these labor issues they're serious labor issues um and we're hopeful that we'll get the
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votes for it we're working hard and we do have some republicans with us our goal is to gain as many
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votes as we possibly can so for the josh hollies uh for for rubio all those we appreciate that
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they're they're they're um what they've said on on publicly we're hopeful that they stick to their
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word that they vote with us we're hopeful that you know john can be another and with us as well
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but here's the question so maybe you help enlighten you know we pride ourselves of being the populist
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nationalist wing of this party or this movement and uh and and you got josh holley's a young fire
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breathing populist got marco rubio's got more populist over time and so here's the confusion
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explain to us when they're sitting and tweeting out as soon as this thing was done they tweet at
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immediately so they're on this and they say hey why should we support the union leaders and the biden
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guys that have put this together when the rank and file has voted against this uh you know i'm not
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saying overwhelmingly but in a day where you're you're down to thousands of votes in arizona and
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everywhere across the country it was a pretty big spread for your members as populist why should we
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go against the rank and file and support the bosses the biden administration and it looks like even the
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corporations why should they do that or are you saying that this that this uh sick leave if they had
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that they would have voted for it because i think there's a lot of confusion here about exactly what
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the workers themselves wanted versus and particularly in a partisan age when you get biden and schumer and
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pelosi you know coming together for something you kind of feel the fixes in sir yeah no our members were
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were polled and they wanted this we talked in thousands of of calls um we had numerous uh town hall
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meetings with hundreds of members on the calls and then there were several issues i mean the members do want
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other things but the number one issue was sick leave it was consistent across the board and the thing
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that i would challenge these folks with the populist group is that our our our members are are are largely
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uh work in conservative states and are many of them are conservatives and populists themselves and
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they want this they believe that it's the right thing to do um we represent members in nebraska and
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colorado and all these different states where you have large groups of very conservative individuals
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that would that would love to vote for these guys and believe in them but they are going to we we are
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expecting a roll call vote and our expectation is for republicans to start standing with labor
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and then we have no problem supporting them or or or making sure that votes go their way
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or pushing votes their way that's important that they stand with labor if they don't and they stand with the
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corporations and the two up ways then we have a problem and i don't think that the populist uh
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the populist movement supports these gigantic corporations and their in their extreme lockdown
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control over the bureaucrats in washington if that's the case and then go ahead and challenge me steve
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you're you're you're the leader of this movement so challenge me on it but no i look i i one of the
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things i think we would like to see more fight on this precision this whole thing about precision
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scheduling and all this we're very opposed to automation coming in and taking out high value
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added jobs this is what's going to kill this economy quicker than anything to turn over to these
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ai and the quantum computing and all that and you don't particularly in something like when you when
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you're tripling or doubling the size of the of the train loads and the trains and you're uh you're
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carrying a lot of dangerous chemicals that need to be shipped across the country for industrial
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production safety is at the forefront and it looks like people are avoiding that and kicking it down
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the road and that ought to be central but i gotta tell you that you you don't have the backing when
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pelosi these guys can step in and basically shut down and don't let you guys go out you you kind of
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you you have very little leverage are you open to talk to people like senator hawley and rubio and
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those types are you open are you making calls are you gonna are you and the other four big parts of
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the union that didn't pass this are you going to make yourselves available to talk to them or has
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everything got to go through uh biden's labor secretary marty walsh yeah i have some of our people
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in dc right now doing some lobby work i had to be home today for uh some of the interviews and other
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things that i had to do i'm going to be there tonight i'm flying into dc tonight and our goal is to
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get any conversations with any republicans in the senate that we can to discuss our issues um our
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our general president has has been actively working the hill as well um the general president of the
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ibt uh is sean o'brien has been extremely active in trying to get the republicans uh to join join us on
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this on this fight as well we'll take anyone that we can get to to stand with working class americans
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uh it's a non-partisan issue in my opinion and so i would be more than willing to sit down and talk
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with them if they want me there if they want to talk tonight i'm available if they want to talk
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tomorrow i'm available um and we do have to come together even after this is over to work with these
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folks to break the backs of these operating systems on the railroad that are destructive and unsafe
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it's unacceptable it's unacceptable it's unacceptable the it's only going to get more dangerous you're
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only going to have more casualties uh and it doesn't have to happen that's all that is about
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squeezing out higher margins on this and uh we understand companies got to make a profit we're
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capitalists here but you can't have one person on one of these trains on a computer as many glitches
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as computers can have and you certainly can't go where they want to go which they want to take all the
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humans out of the process that's quite obvious they're trying to do it in every industry out
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there tony we got to bounce what's your social media tony so people can follow you as this thing
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kind of comes to a climax yeah just you can go to our website at bmwe.org um you can follow us on
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facebook as well um we are on all the all the various different social media um and we're we're
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publishing things you know by the minute we're trying to keep uh all the discussions and voting that's
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going on right now in the senate and available for our membership but it's available for the general
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public as well and we're excited that we've been able to successfully bring our message um to to the
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general you know general general populace out there it's exciting because railroad hasn't got
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the railroad labor hasn't got this much attention since the you know for for many many years so we're
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excited that our message is getting out there and people are understanding this fight
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and we plan on continuing even after this is uh even after this is over tony thank you very much
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for joining us appreciate it thank you i appreciate it thanks for your time steve sir thanks brother
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let's go to uh let's go to ben burquam he's on the road again he's down as one of his favorite places
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eagle pass texas uh you're with constable bowles what's going on down there ben you know you're you've
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been doing great work laboring in the vineyard in arizona you had to go down because we got an
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invasion on the southern border last time i looked sir yeah it continues steve i was just with the
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america project yesterday they announced their lawsuit in arizona and they actually came to texas
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today to announce a lawsuit on behalf of property owners across the border uh against the the washington
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dc and the bureaucrats that have dereliction of their duty of uh committed dereliction of their duty
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and and just to give you an example i'm here with deputy secretary or excuse me deputy constable
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bulls uh constable you were talking this is shocking steve talk to us about the numbers that
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you guys are seeing and what you expect uh once title 42 goes away uh right now ben as uh what we're
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seeing here local law enforcement all up and down the border here in maverick county we're experiencing
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on a slow day about a thousand to fifteen hundred people crossing and that's a slow day uh on a on a
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heavy traffic day we're looking at upwards of three thousand plus per day and these are the people that
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are that are uh turning themselves in these are the people that that want that are what they call
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them the give ups uh they're basically turning themselves in for processing because they're knowing
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that they're going to be processed and they're going to be released into the united states the other
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side of the coin is if we have a thousand people crossing a day uh that give themselves up to turn
00:26:16.280
themselves in we've got at least a thousand if not more that are getting by that are not being
00:26:20.800
processed that are being uh smuggled in using more and more uh complex smuggling operations and we've
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seen that uh the numbers of the the human smuggling uh have increased two three times at least uh since
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the last time you were here uh since the last time we spoke back earlier this year hang on one second
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we're taking a short commercial break we're gonna go back to eagle pass texas about the invasion
00:26:46.060
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here's your host stephen k back okay welcome back you're in the worm go back to eagle pass texas
00:28:39.220
so constable here's where i don't understand we got lara logan coming for a second who's fighting
00:28:44.640
this fight every day you know i love my state of virginia people love florida tennessee wherever
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they're from they love their home state they love the college football teams there's deep affinity
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but texas is even different i'll be honest sometimes the charms of texas are lost on me
00:29:00.100
compared to some of my friends that live there that absolutely say it's paradise on earth okay
00:29:04.760
how can people in texas yes and particularly abbott and republicans and paxton and all these guys and
00:29:11.600
all the other officials and even the at least how can they allow this to happen because what you've
00:29:17.460
described is an exponential growth in this this is not only not getting worse it's not stopping
00:29:22.360
it's it's increasing at an increasing rate so how can texans let's leave biden these guys aside
00:29:29.400
for a second how can texans allow this to happen and not have your back
00:29:33.220
well uh first of all sir the as uh as a texan uh i love my state and god bless texas texas is one of
00:29:44.420
the few states that is actually trying to do something about the border issue that we're having
00:29:49.040
right now not a not so much a border issue border crisis is what we're having uh governor abbott's one
00:29:55.000
of the few governors that's actually trying to do something by deploying the national guard
00:29:59.080
down here to the texas national guard of the southern border also by sending uh deploying the
00:30:05.400
dps the texas department of public safety down here to assist uh the national guard and and to assist
00:30:11.620
the border patrol but the the problem that we that we're having is texans is we're just as mad
00:30:18.700
as everybody else is we don't like this it's what this issue what's happening this has never happened
00:30:25.000
before uh in my lifetime i've seen uh maybe one time it happened about 20 years ago where we kind
00:30:32.580
of had a similar issue with uh people coming across the border from south america but that didn't last
00:30:37.680
very long but the sheer numbers that are coming across within the past two years year and a half
00:30:42.620
are incredible and as texans we're we're not upset about it we're mad we're very angry at what's
00:30:49.900
happening because we're seeing more and more issues with people coming across all the border communities
00:30:55.660
most the majority of the border communities along the texas mexico border are small communities eagle
00:31:02.100
pass is only a community of about 40 to 50 000 people and we have about anywhere between several
00:31:07.860
thousand people coming through per day multiplied that uh by 30 you're looking at anywhere between
00:31:14.440
150 to 200 000 people sometimes coming in per month that's what's crossing through up and through this
00:31:20.780
border and the numbers are amazing all up and down the texas border here we're looking at the size of
00:31:26.280
eagle pass crossing about every 15 to 20 days uh here and those numbers that are crossing on a slow day
00:31:33.360
we'll have a thousand to 1500 people crossing but hang on and i understand biden's only exacerbating
00:31:40.240
this i mean we've said that this is the first issue that we need that we feel needs to be
00:31:44.200
investigated to lead to impeachment of garland mayorkas and biden ultimately okay but given that
00:31:50.760
have texas officials from abbott on down with national guard uh the dps the texas rangers state
00:31:58.660
militia everything do you believe that they've had your back the local people to do everything
00:32:04.420
utmost this is not a small thing you just talk about 200 000 people we had the mayor of valde texas
00:32:10.540
those kids before they were slaughtered in that school they had 50 50 lockdowns because of illegal
00:32:17.480
aliens coming through and the police chasing them the people down there are not living the life even
00:32:22.960
close to the life they could live you're shattering texans and texans and these young kids are being
00:32:29.000
impacted they'll never i mean what's happening to them and the fear and the anxiety and the uncertainty
00:32:35.720
what's going on the community are going to is changing their lives forever we'll never be able
00:32:39.860
to put that back in the bottle do you believe i know the federal government not only doesn't have
00:32:44.800
your back they're working against you but do the senior officials in texas are they doing we have to
00:32:51.880
go to extreme measures now you can't do this with half measures do people are people taking this as a
00:32:58.440
crisis when you tell me 200 000 people that's larger sir than the army that landed at normandy
00:33:03.640
on d-day right these are massive numbers of a scale incomprehensible is everything that can be
00:33:11.120
done at a senior level to have your back being done sir
00:33:13.840
well uh first of all sir i i know that governor abbott is is trying his best and but at the same
00:33:25.020
time uh god bless the border patrol they're trying their best too but the problem that we have is that
00:33:30.380
the sheer number of people that are coming across there is no real deterrent for them there is nothing
00:33:36.280
holding them back to stop them from coming across from coming across the southern border here in eagle
00:33:42.720
past we have the rio grande river which is our border very obvious there is nothing really to
00:33:47.820
stop them once they hit the water and once they start coming across to physically push them back
00:33:52.900
or to keep them physically from crossing so that's why uh the border patrol feels feels very frustrated
00:33:59.820
because before they would apprehend detain and and use whatever means necessary to deal with the
00:34:04.800
person and and and deal with them along the immigration side using immigration laws now they've got
00:34:11.400
basically one hand tied behind their back and they're trying to do their best but they're
00:34:15.500
overwhelmed and now local law enforcement and state authorities are having to deal with along with
00:34:20.620
the texas national guard but the numbers don't stop and there's no way once there's there's really no
00:34:26.640
way right now to stop them from coming across even with the national guard being here even with the dps
00:34:32.640
trying to help up the texas dps just like you said very extreme measures have to be taken now
00:34:38.800
and the the governor governor ab excuse me for interrupting sir but governor ab just a couple weeks
00:34:43.560
ago what we're looking what we're looking for is he just declared an invasion now what does that mean
00:34:50.500
in simple terms well it's granted to the constitution there's certain authorities granted to the states
00:34:57.220
uh by the u.s constitution that allows individual states to do that and to my knowledge this has
00:35:03.200
only been done once before i believe in many many years ago but that's what it's going to have to
00:35:08.620
take now what we're hoping for local law enforcement is for the state authorities governor abbott granting
00:35:14.140
the texas dps and the national guard giving them even more resources or or more uh whatever they need
00:35:22.440
uh in order to assist us in in trying to contain all these people coming across because the vast
00:35:29.940
numbers that we're seeing the the norm along the border has been disrupted it's no longer normal
00:35:35.080
there's been a disruption like you can't believe with the sheer numbers of people coming across
00:35:40.020
we can't deal with it we need lots of assistance and there's no there there's no foreseeable end in
00:35:45.900
sight and and that's what we're hoping for we're looking we're looking to our state uh to governor
00:35:51.840
abbott to help us and hopefully he's taking steps in the right direction even more than what he's
00:35:56.560
doing right now we're glad for what he's doing but the problem is so bad that just like you said
00:36:03.340
extreme measures are going to have to be taken in order to try and avert what's going on right now
00:36:09.020
and steve if i could just jump in on that real quick this i mean what we're talking about is the
00:36:15.060
governor needs to not just declare the invasion but use these national guard troops which are right
00:36:20.400
over here to our left to repel the invasion he i sat in a meeting where he told us he looked
00:36:24.740
the audience in the room and it was a bunch of sheriffs and law enforcement from across the state
00:36:28.140
and he said we're sending down the national guards they're going to repel the invasion that's what he
00:36:32.880
needs to do at this point he has not done that but that when you talk about extreme measures we
00:36:37.160
cannot keep accepting this in we are bleeding out as a nation and and these communities are dying
00:36:42.540
because of it you're destroying but ben you set us up with the mayor of all that you're destroying
00:36:47.040
these communities you're destroying these kids and texas is one of the places have the highest
00:36:52.740
percentage of people volunteering for the military i mean texas is the backbone of the nation you're
00:36:57.320
destroying generations of kids that are being robbed of their childhoods look when the young
00:37:03.380
children that were slaughtered in that school in ovalde when you find that they had 50 lockdowns in
00:37:10.620
the in there that's one a week lockdowns because of illegal aliens and the media then they talk about
00:37:15.900
that how's their lives even affected affected before that you can't live like that it's like
00:37:22.500
you're living in a war zone texas is not a war zone these children are citizens of the united states
00:37:27.660
they do the other thing i want to get to constable we'll move some other stuff around because i want
00:37:33.040
to finish this the sophistication we're not dealing with a bunch of morons the cartels are one of the
00:37:40.480
most adaptive sophisticated uh groups in the world they deal with the chinese tongs these are this is a
00:37:47.880
paramilitary operation more sophisticated i would say than even what we had to deal with in afghanistan
00:37:54.820
and with al-qaeda and isis this is very adaptive very sophisticated very technology savvy and they got a
00:38:03.100
lot of cash okay talk to me about how they've adapted over the last year since we visited you early and
00:38:09.220
you're talking about three times more most of that's driven by the cartels how have they adapted
00:38:15.420
to actually improve their operations to the detriment of the citizens of texas sir
00:38:20.280
well i'll give you two examples i was talking to ben a little while ago one example is on the northern
00:38:27.880
part of maverick county i'm talking here locally what we're seeing is on the northern part of our county
00:38:33.420
we have our our processing center our our border patrol processing center which they process several
00:38:39.580
thousand people per day what we've seen in the past several months and we've caught up on it because
00:38:46.440
we learn as well we we learn by our mistakes as well just as everyone else the smugglers are crossing
00:38:53.260
people closer in areas in very close proximity to the processing center so that they know these people
00:39:00.240
will get picked up quicker and will be processed even quicker and more efficiently and will be released
00:39:05.620
into the u.s rather before as going back into earlier in the year we had people crossing all up and down
00:39:10.980
the border here when ben was here the last time earlier in the year right here where we were standing
00:39:17.060
we were seeing between anywhere between 25 to 50 people crossing per hour and right now those numbers
00:39:23.200
have uh have pretty much come to a standstill we're seeing uh the smugglers have gotten more uh
00:39:29.900
more smarter uh they've gotten more complex they've studied us more and they know what areas are safe to cross
00:39:36.680
where they can cross large numbers of people at all at the same time and where uh in these locations
00:39:43.680
where they're crossing them they know that border patrol is there they know that the national guard is there
00:39:48.500
or they know that local law enforcement will be there to receive these people so they won't be in
00:39:53.000
danger and steve this goes right back to secretary maracas joe biden their idea of controlled flow
00:39:58.880
the reason the cartel is able to do this the cartel is making more money than they ever have in history
00:40:03.320
but it's because we've greased the skids the the idea of controlled flow what democrats in washington dc
00:40:08.840
are doing are as incentivizing more of it we're simply throwing out carrots for them to come and get
00:40:13.920
and we're making it easier that's what we're seeing come through here uh it's just like todd
00:40:18.600
bensman's article and alden was reporting on that the reason that they're they're claiming asylum on
00:40:22.620
the mexico side and coming through across the bridge right above us partly that way is because
00:40:27.160
joe biden these democrats don't want you to see it but this is all we're doing is stuffing money
00:40:32.300
into the cartel's pockets to enrich them and to make them more powerful as you said
00:40:36.040
council let me ask you i read a uh it was classified for texas not not national classification but a report
00:40:42.980
that was done from a consulting group for dps that said basically in the counties of the rio grand
00:40:48.720
valley and in certain counties in south texas that it was questionable whether local authorities were in
00:40:55.360
control or the cartels are in control i want to hold you through the break get a minute are the
00:40:59.740
cartels actually more in control now of our southern border than either federal or state officials sir
00:41:06.540
yes yes they are the the the sheer numbers of people that are coming across the the vast amounts of
00:41:19.120
wealth they are generating uh in crossing uh in crossing the in the human smuggling element and also in the
00:41:26.940
illegal narcotics element the the number of illegal narcotics coming across has also increased
00:41:32.540
tenfold uh the dps puts that out constantly and it is true all up and down the border where we're
00:41:39.480
seeing large groups come in we're seeing it here in eagle pass as well through our ports of entry as
00:41:44.500
well too in del rio and eagle pass laredo they're capturing record numbers of uh of drugs coming across
00:41:51.180
the border uh record numbers coming across to the river it's it's amazing and and all this just
00:41:57.480
generates more and more money for for the cartel and it just it basically gives them a blank check
00:42:03.600
to study and move on and increase their wealth constable bulls why don't you hang on ben burquam
00:42:10.100
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00:42:14.100
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war room mypillow.com promo code war room um as uh the war room audience let's say this they're a little
00:45:09.420
perturbed okay because they're action action action in their beloved country we have a huge audience in
00:45:15.380
texas that loves texas like nobody else loves their state it's just incredible the loyalty and patriotism
00:45:22.000
and pride of the folks in texas about their great state and and what's what's being allowed to happen
00:45:27.120
to it by biden this isn't i've said this now for a year and a half right when he came in in this
00:45:33.200
illegitimate regime and started changing everything president trump had done and we tried to accomplish
00:45:38.620
at the border and at least had some semblance of control uh this is an invasion of the united states
00:45:44.080
and on capitol hill right now there's these huge fights and power plays going on we do report on it
00:45:48.820
every day one of the things in this omnibus bill they're talking i don't know 30 40 billion dollars
00:45:54.400
for ukraine more more arms more more relief for the folks in ukraine and uh and yet no discussion
00:46:01.400
of our southern border there's an invasion on the southern border of the united states i gotta tell you
00:46:06.340
the 12 or 13 generations that came before us would spit on the floor in disgust about what all of us
00:46:14.440
allow have allowed to happen i realize people are saying hey i'm fighting it i'm fighting it
00:46:18.160
but this has got to stop and here's one of the most disturbing things and you know lara logan
00:46:23.720
we're trying to track her down having some technical problems she's going to be
00:46:27.180
on here talking about this situation in uh uh with this spanish or french fashion company it's got all
00:46:33.360
this uh awful stuff about children you know people don't have a conspiracy theories and we're not
00:46:38.220
conspiracy theory guys on here we say there are no coincidences but there's no conspiracies
00:46:42.500
and people mock q and all the people do q but hey when you see a report yesterday ben burquam
00:46:48.020
and constable about from an h from a federal whistleblower to project veritas and she's sitting
00:46:55.740
there talking about hhs and turning over the massive trafficking of young people up through this border
00:47:02.460
our border and government officials looking the other way trafficking for sex trafficking i helped build
00:47:08.300
that wall in el paso texas right there up the side of the mountain where the cartels brought across
00:47:12.700
burquam you were there with me you saw all the horrible stuff that was left behind of the torture
00:47:18.900
of these children and the sexual exploitation of these children and that had all happened and all
00:47:24.120
happened and we're looking the other way right and you see what he what they've done and you go to
00:47:29.200
houston you go down houston they say in this house there's 41 unaccompanied minors with these
00:47:34.420
traffickers in this house there's 21 on our watch with our tax dollars it's disgusting ben burquam
00:47:41.540
and then constable what what is the veritas revelations of now out in the open in the u.s
00:47:47.300
government as a partner to these traffickers well what it is steve is the tip of the iceberg of the
00:47:53.980
largest human trafficking and child trafficking uh operation in world history that's being orchestrated
00:48:00.380
by joe biden secretary marcus and the democrats of washington dc joe biden is the largest human
00:48:05.120
trafficker in the world right now because of his policies and it's a small fraction of what we're
00:48:09.560
seeing i spoke to a woman and i have a friend who actually works in the orr the unaccompanied minors
00:48:14.880
program she's getting us contact and content every day on what's happening there and what she's telling
00:48:20.260
me is they're basically not doing any background checks on anyone who's requesting these kids because
00:48:24.740
as you heard from constable bulls they are so overwhelmed they the floodgates are open these guys can't
00:48:29.560
handle it and and really what they're doing is as you mentioned we're profiting the cartels in mexico
00:48:34.320
but the cartels are in america they are running these sex trafficking operations in america and we
00:48:39.280
are simply giving these children to them to be trafficked it is evil pure and simple it is evil
00:48:45.080
it is evil constable bulls your your observations
00:48:48.560
my observation on this series is firsthand just yesterday i came across two children one nine one six
00:48:57.380
a nine-year-old girl and her six-year-old little brother and it disgusts me uh to know that this
00:49:04.620
is going on they uh these two little kids were crossed on the border and just basically left there
00:49:10.540
to fend for themselves and if i hadn't been on patrol and seen them they i asked them how long
00:49:15.620
they've been there they said they they had no idea and what what are they being left to just being
00:49:22.080
left for someone to find them uh who's taking care of them uh their parents where are they they're
00:49:28.300
coming into this country and they're being processed as unaccompanied children and a lot of times they
00:49:34.260
have addresses where they're going to or or uh what we hope is a relative that they're going to someone
00:49:41.080
that will care for them but ultimately we have no idea or how to honestly verify that and this is the
00:49:47.380
scary part and to me uh i'm a father of two i have two sons and it's disgusting to for me to even just
00:49:54.980
think about that what's going on and i know it's happening because we get reports about that all the
00:50:00.280
time the the the kids that are coming across they're traumatized they're scared they're with
00:50:05.520
their parents without their parents uh they're crossing hundreds if not thousands of miles over
00:50:11.440
several borders to get to the u.s border and once they get here the the many of them they're going
00:50:18.060
to live with that trauma that who knows what they've been through a little just example those two two
00:50:24.100
children the nine nine-year-old girl and six-year-old boy who knows what they went through they were from
00:50:28.620
honduras and they came all the way up from honduras up to here to eagle pass and crossed the border and
00:50:34.760
someone crossed them across the river and literally left them on the side of the river and i just happened to
00:50:39.800
be driving by and came upon them there so this is what's happening here and now yeah and and it's
00:50:46.640
it's disgusting and it upsets me very much constable we got to bounce is there any way for social media
00:50:52.520
of how people can follow you or find out more about what's going on down there uh right now here we're
00:50:59.560
we're down here in maverick county uh they can go to the uh local maverick county website or the
00:51:05.380
eagle pass texas website and see see how we're doing down here uh my constable has a facebook page
00:51:12.440
uh constable joe mike biati on facebook and we show what we're doing there we we apprehend a lot
00:51:19.760
of people that show what's going on and we report uh to the best of our ability what's going on so
00:51:25.140
other people can see god bless you sir you're doing god's work trust me you're doing god's work
00:51:30.480
burquam how do we get to you americasvoice.news frontlineamerica.com at ben burquam on
00:51:37.680
everything but parlor at parlor it's at frontline america thank you sir you're indefatigable ben
00:51:42.700
keep working we'll see you tomorrow okay short break we're gonna be back for the second hour
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