Bannon's War Room - December 07, 2022


Episode 2356: Attacking And Dismantling The Bureaucratic State


Episode Stats

Length

53 minutes

Words per Minute

185.28215

Word Count

9,978

Sentence Count

26

Misogynist Sentences

4

Hate Speech Sentences

8


Summary

81 years ago today, on this day in 1941, the United States entered the kinetic part of World War II, the continuation of the Great War of the 20th century, the Pearl Harbor scandal, the Korean War, the Watergate, the Iran Contra scandal, and the Watergate scandal.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 this is the primal scream of a dying regime pray for our enemies because we're going with evil on
00:00:10.600 these people here's the time i got a free shot all these networks lying about the people the
00:00:16.760 people have had a belly full of it i know you don't like hearing that i know you try to do
00:00:20.740 everything in the world to stop that but you're not going to stop it it's going to happen and
00:00:24.080 where do people like that go to share the big line mega media i wish in my soul i wish that any of
00:00:31.920 these people had a conscience ask yourself what is my task and what is my purpose if that answer
00:00:39.020 is to save my country this country will be saved war here's your host stephen k vat
00:00:47.400 81 years ago today 7 december 1941 uh what uh got the united states actively into the kinetic part
00:00:58.220 of the uh of world war ii uh the continuation of the great war of the 20th century the really
00:01:04.480 curtain came down on that with the fall of the berlin wall in tiananmen square in the
00:01:09.540 the late 80s beginning the early 90s um like i said there've been seven i think there's seven
00:01:16.820 pearl harbor commissions investigations all of it many many many many many questions still up
00:01:23.580 on pearl harbor i think that's the beginning of people saying well hang over a second because
00:01:26.740 people don't realize this that as we were fighting the war this whole pearl harbor controversy was
00:01:32.100 quite big quite big and admiral kimmel's family to till today still fights to have his name cleared
00:01:39.460 the admiral that was in charge of the pacific fleet headquartered out of pearl um
00:01:44.160 so and we'll talk about more about that maybe i've got maybe this afternoon where i can go
00:01:49.640 through more of it because it's it's relevant to today up on capitol hill i know people are very
00:01:55.000 upset about georgia you should be upset about georgia we gave them a seat let's be blunt we gave
00:01:59.180 them a seat um what's happening on capitol hill right now the power moves the power struggles are like
00:02:06.660 it's shakespearean you have and this is why it's so important and i you know i've been a big
00:02:12.340 advocate president trump ought to be more engaged on this i just don't think he's engaged enough
00:02:16.940 and as you know we're the centerpiece of the uh media for the trump movement for support of
00:02:23.040 president trump but you got to call them you got to call balls and strikes like you see them they
00:02:26.440 got to be more engaged what's and here's why they are structurally doing things right now
00:02:30.940 that are not just detrimental to the overall country but are going to handcuff a second trump
00:02:36.560 presidency the omnibus bill the defense authorization act amnesty and debt ceiling those four and there's
00:02:42.660 many more they're working on trust me they got stuff working all over the place electoral count
00:02:46.240 act i can go up and down but i'm talking about these big four uh and i think because i see now
00:02:51.120 thune and people i think maybe the debt ceiling we've put to bed amnesty is still out there although
00:02:56.120 josh hawley lee the populace member came out and said over my dead body will they do amnesty and
00:03:01.680 the lame duck because you need a national consensus on that we have an invasion on the southern border
00:03:05.600 it's even obscene to be talking about and spending time on and by the way dick durbin and lindsey
00:03:10.460 graham got their hands all over that they got tillis as their front guy but lindsey graham's hands he'd
00:03:14.440 been fighting he'd been working this non-stop ever since i was in the way ever since i've known him he's
00:03:19.900 a huge open borders guy um you've got the defense authorization which is now 800 for almost a trillion
00:03:25.960 dollars but it's totally woke this is why recruitment in the south has collapsed because of the wokeness in
00:03:32.480 there and they're giving us a tip about the vaccines going forward there's supposed to be a
00:03:35.720 huge republican win anytime the media says huge republican win remember they're trying to cover
00:03:40.720 up something the omnibus is probably the most offensive because a couple weeks we can certainly
00:03:45.520 wait we've kicked the can down the road in this thing all the time it's no urgency to get this done
00:03:50.040 this is just about paying off lobbyists corporate sponsors for shelby and these guys are all going to
00:03:54.120 be leaving in the democrats this omnibus is going to be a couple you know trillion three and a half
00:03:58.620 dollars totally unfunded completely unfunded and by the way it's going to happen again nine months
00:04:02.760 in september it's going to happen another year this is a system we're at the end of this road
00:04:09.140 we're not we're at uh we're just the end of it and but how do you start to get the end and so what
00:04:15.200 you have to do you have to have smart tough people russ vote is probably one of the smartest guys not
00:04:19.340 the smartest guy about the complexity and what's really in the budget are the appropriations well you
00:04:25.820 know how money comes in but more importantly how it gets spent and how it gets monitored to see
00:04:30.580 programmatically what's even if what's working and what's not working he's worked with his
00:04:36.060 organization to come up with a balanced budget here's why it's important we're going to try to
00:04:39.240 pull the the clip here for later in the hour um it ties directly to the fight it ties directly to
00:04:46.500 what's going on and the power moves about who's in charge starting early part of next year and here's
00:04:51.640 why until we get control of the spending until you get control of the spending everything else is
00:04:57.280 kind of a side issue because right now we're at a precipice right and we have to show that we can
00:05:04.260 do this we have to show we have the world this is why the american people put the put gave the house
00:05:10.260 of representatives to to the republicans remember we had over six million more votes one is to stop the
00:05:15.100 madness of biden spending to do that you have to have a pathway of eventually how to get to a balanced
00:05:20.820 budget ralph norman this congressman from south carolina who's kind of i'm not saying a back
00:05:26.960 bencher but has never really been at the forefront publicly he said he asked kevin mccarthy in that
00:05:31.680 private session they had a week ago he said look i got a question here's what i want to know most
00:05:36.620 because this is the this is the thing itself this is what's important this is signal not noise
00:05:41.760 where do you stand on this republican study committee or vote these guys working on this been working for a
00:05:47.360 long time on this balanced budget that balances i think in seven years kevin where do you stand on
00:05:52.640 that well won't do it not interested not going to happen boom ralph norman said at that moment he
00:05:58.220 became a hard no he said if you're not prepared to do that fight then everything else is just happy
00:06:03.060 talk so i want to bring in russ vote i think today russ we're going to start rolling out what you've been
00:06:07.980 working on and this is going to be a centerpiece of going forward because hey the the left-wing media is
00:06:14.600 going to be all over this is the cruel heartless republicans that are now trying to take food out
00:06:20.540 of the mouths of babies right but somebody's got to step up and say we can't because otherwise you're
00:06:25.680 just going to have these omnibus bills every 12 months unfunded to train to have to train and that's
00:06:32.920 without the financing charges the scam is they don't really even bake that into the system the financing
00:06:37.680 charges now are going to be another trillion dollars so here's where you get these silos of trillions
00:06:41.960 train for over train for social security over train for medicaid over train for medicare
00:06:47.440 over a trillion for national defense and now a trillion for let's throw a train in there for
00:06:52.720 financing the five trillions the five building blocks of this um russ vote walk us through what
00:06:59.160 you guys have come up with and talk about the process first and what do you have and how we're
00:07:03.740 going to roll it out sure thanks steve for the opportunity so this is really really timely as you
00:07:09.420 mentioned because it is specifically written for the fiscal 23 year that they are appropriating or
00:07:15.260 spending money to right now in this lame duck and by the way we are on the cusp of having a major
00:07:20.400 victory as a result of this show in being able to get that pumped uh pumped over into the new year
00:07:27.080 with a short-term cr so that the new majority can use this budget to turn that into law and that we
00:07:34.140 did that intentionally so you have a kevin mccarthy that's out there saying number one you just can't get
00:07:38.980 the balance we wanted to prove that wrong we'd already proved it wrong in the trump administration
00:07:43.220 but we wanted to do it in a 10-year period which is the typical budget window and we wanted to say
00:07:48.840 look we're going to do it within the constraints of how we wrote the trump budgets we're going to do it
00:07:53.660 in 10 years and we're going to give you the moral high ground in a way that you've never had before
00:07:58.660 and really that's what we're trying to do is that this has always been a debate about well two people
00:08:05.120 agree on a program existing section eight housing uh cdc funding and we're just talking about whether
00:08:12.140 you can afford it or not you've got to get out of the affordability this is not about bureaucracy that
00:08:18.500 is good for the country and should just be afforded uh spent based on what you can afford this is money
00:08:26.160 that is being put it was putting sewage in your community when you have a million and a half going to
00:08:31.620 the university of texas to train teachers on how to do critical race theory and social emotional
00:08:37.980 learning and math that's sewage into your school that's that's not teacher improvement to make sure
00:08:43.880 they teach math better that's way of figuring out how to have marxist revolutionaries in your schools
00:08:49.740 recruit more marxist revolutionaries in your school and so we're trying to say with this budget
00:08:54.640 we're dealing with statesmen here or we're trying to lead and and be able to create statesmen and
00:09:00.200 everyone on this show is a statesman at the local level and so that's not single issue voting that
00:09:06.020 is okay you've got multiple threats you have a fiscal threat of 31 trillion dollars in debt
00:09:10.320 and you've got this woke and weaponized bureaucracy that is immediately arrayed against the american
00:09:16.580 people what do you do about that you've got to merge them you've got to say that this bureaucracy
00:09:21.500 exists because of the funding sources that is causing our fiscal imbalances and by merging them all of a
00:09:28.740 sudden you've given yourself a strategic moral high ground to be able to go after these spendings
00:09:34.320 in a way that busts the cartel in a fundamental way so just the bottom line what we're trying to do
00:09:39.640 this strategically we're trying to delegitimize the regime we're trying to show you what the regime is like
00:09:46.860 this is not foreign aid which i would oppose anyways this is spending money to train lgbt activists
00:09:53.560 in senegal this is to have drag queen theaters in ecuador this is about having a bob dylan statute
00:10:01.200 in mozambique this is about funding gay pride parades in prague that's what you are getting
00:10:07.140 with your money and we want to be able to delegitimize the regime and then starve it of
00:10:13.300 every dollar that is going to the to what is woke and weaponized i just want to make sure people
00:10:19.040 you're saying the administrative state and the rogue part the deep state part of that
00:10:22.760 is perpetuated by these massive this five and a half trillion the particularly the unfunded
00:10:29.880 discretionary spending you're merging the crisis in the debt right in the exploding interest rates
00:10:35.960 with the administrative state this is leviathan this is the beast and every time you spend a penny
00:10:41.980 you're feeding that beast so let's figure out how we deconstruct the beast by cutting off the money
00:10:48.100 program by program is that essentially your theory of the case that's the theory of the case that is
00:10:53.740 the central threat that statesmen need to rise to and what they have been go ahead hang on it's taken
00:11:01.600 30 years to get their vote you know that because but go back to how people used to think about it if
00:11:08.220 you think about it in this construct if you think about it in that framing you'll get to a solution
00:11:13.620 but the fight just to get there has been pretty monumental right i mean we're still not there
00:11:18.000 trust me we're starting it but before it was all about affordability right correct this is a major
00:11:24.300 shift in the overton window no that's exactly right i mean like i used to have these debates about stuff
00:11:30.780 that i wanted to fund you know the wall or the navy uh or you know nasa space exploration things that
00:11:37.400 conservatives want and i'd say well you know what's the delta what do i need to be able to fund what we
00:11:42.980 really need and they'd say five billion i was like well why are we even having this conversation take
00:11:48.100 it from some place in hud that doesn't need it and so we've been trapped in these paradigms and then
00:11:53.080 you look at that funding you just took it from hud and you're thinking oh man i really i really hurt
00:11:57.160 the the homelessness issue or i'm gonna really have to explain that but then you realize and you
00:12:02.860 realize that section eight housing is this massive program that's leading to crime in our
00:12:08.460 neighborhoods that's leading to uh depressed home values then you realize there's a fair housing
00:12:14.100 network that's funded by the hud that's all they do is a bunch of left-wing activism that's designed
00:12:19.460 to break up single-family zoning and so you've got to really begin to think through this is not about
00:12:25.460 affordability this is about specifically what do we want to fund and we're going to fund those and what
00:12:30.460 are we not going to fund because they're our enemy and we're going to defund that in an increasingly
00:12:35.700 accurate way and so this is the start of it did we get everything no but we've got a lot of it
00:12:41.280 and we're going to keep going after the bureaucracy each and every opportunity that we have before we
00:12:47.820 go to break and i'm gonna get cortez in here at the break let me um walk me through how in 10 years
00:12:54.520 had just the macro how do you get to balance now that you do your two trillion dollars not counting the
00:13:02.100 interest cost on discretionary how do you even how do you even get this in 10 years to balance
00:13:08.660 sure uh here's the basic plan that we put forward number one you got to have economic growth
00:13:15.220 you can't not you can't balance the budget without economic growth and so we extend the tax cuts we
00:13:20.460 assume all the things that we would do in a trump administration and we get the economy growing at
00:13:25.340 three percent 3.1 next year and then 2.8 throughout the rest of the the window and that's critical
00:13:31.460 because if you don't grow the economy your target keeps getting bigger and the country is hurting
00:13:36.680 from unemployment and you just don't have an ability to have a political coalition to get it done so
00:13:41.740 that's step one the next one is spending restraint and you can't balance the budget without spending
00:13:47.920 reform and cuts so we're putting forward nine trillion dollars in spending cuts three trillion of
00:13:54.680 it is is focused on the woke and the weaponized bureaucracy well the lack of a red wave during the
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00:15:03.000 use your agency here's your host stephen k bannon okay welcome back um i want to make sure that this
00:15:15.280 is uh this is uh the thing itself because this is going to drive so much of the conversation
00:15:20.260 um we've got russ vote restoring america has put together this budget different than the rc has got
00:15:26.300 some pretty big differences cortez give me your initial thoughts and then i want to get into some
00:15:30.560 more details of the russ sure well steve first of all this is incredibly exciting you know and i really
00:15:35.600 mean that as you know i'm kind of an economic and interest rate geek so this kind of talk is music to
00:15:40.780 my ears but it's so important for our entire country even if you're not really into those topics this
00:15:45.720 matters so much on the political side let me say that i hope kevin mccarthy will take this proposal
00:15:50.780 really seriously and read it i'm excited to read the details i hope he will do the same and consider
00:15:55.360 this i think that it would make his bid for the speakership much much stronger but on the economic
00:15:59.840 side too i want to talk about the interest rate component and russ i want to you know ask you about
00:16:04.120 this because i think this is critical on election day in 2020 when joe biden prevailed 10 year yield was
00:16:10.160 0.8 money was practically free which really uh amassed a lot of this budget profligacy right a lot
00:16:17.540 of our exorbitant borrowing and spending uh was was sort of allowed because of extremely low suppressed
00:16:24.320 artificially suppressed interest rates uh the 10 year yield is now four times that amount so debt service
00:16:29.500 costs really matter deficits really really matter all of a sudden all over the world we saw what
00:16:35.040 happened in the uk so russ what are your projections regarding interest rates and debt service costs
00:16:39.980 and how does that factor into your ability over 10 years to get us back to a balanced budget a place
00:16:45.120 of fiscal sanity you know every morning is what's that 10 year yield looking like and uh when i left
00:16:54.980 uh it was you know 80 basis points 90 basis points and uh we're looking at a situation where we had to
00:17:02.420 adjust for higher interest rates and we assume a three percent uh not because that's we're going to end
00:17:08.820 this year at 2022 but just in terms of the average over the course of the year and then we assume
00:17:13.960 that interest rates will go up higher in 2023 which is the main budget year of this proposal
00:17:18.480 to 3.9 and then we believe because this is post policy this is on the other side of our policy
00:17:24.780 changes that it will come down to 3.2 percent over the life of the window but we're not assuming that
00:17:30.280 we go back to kind of those glory days those heady days of you know the lords of easy money pumping a ton of
00:17:36.860 money into it of and depending on the u.s to be the reserve capital for the rest of eternity at at
00:17:42.740 at such low interest rates so that's kind of how we see the projection of this and we think that as
00:17:48.200 a result this is is is a more credible budget than you're going to see from the administration or even
00:17:53.020 cbo to some extent right and by the way i would just say you know as a guy who traded bonds for 25
00:17:58.260 years for a living i think you're approaching it exactly correctly assume first that interest rates
00:18:03.160 actually get worse from here because that's likely going to happen but then over time with a more
00:18:07.480 restrained budget with better economic growth because of it interest rates actually start to
00:18:11.380 come back down i think that's exactly the correct approach and really gives you i think a lot of
00:18:15.680 credibility to your projections yeah big time i i think and steve i think we can talk about some
00:18:20.320 assumptions because growth rate and interest rates and we want the audience you've got to get up to
00:18:24.520 speed on this nomenclature because this affects your personal life also your political life but your
00:18:30.460 personal life uh because russ is kind of laying out uh what the future could look like i want to
00:18:36.220 make sure though that there's some huge differences you guys have done and i want to make sure the
00:18:41.620 audience understands that and you get a chance to explain it in in these nine trillion dollars worth
00:18:46.760 of cuts three trillion uh from uh what programmatically and then nine trillion um it from it looks like from
00:18:55.600 existing i don't know medicaid you don't i just want to show the audience understands or six
00:18:59.840 strand you don't touch for beneficiaries social security or medicare right now are not really
00:19:06.280 touching this correct correct that's a major difference that we are intentionally making a
00:19:11.660 strategic play call very consistent with the the promises that president trump made when he ran for
00:19:18.060 office i wrote four of his budgets these were how we got to balance and we avoided cuts any cuts to
00:19:24.180 social security retirement and we made sure that any changes to medicare were not going to be cuts to
00:19:29.800 beneficiaries so we have changes to medicare uh things like prescription drug reforms when you have
00:19:35.820 prescription drug reforms you get 200 billion dollars in savings that lower the cost of the beneficiary
00:19:41.160 just by going and making sure that we're going to get the same price that pharmaceutical companies are
00:19:47.560 giving to other nations across the country another thing that you could do is just site neutrality
00:19:52.620 that's a word that says like if medicare is paying for a cat scan like 230 at uh the hospital but
00:20:00.540 they're only paying for 118 in the physician's office we want to get that lowest price that's not
00:20:06.900 hurting the beneficiary that's site neutrality and you can get substantial amount of money from that
00:20:11.380 so we have very protected beneficiaries to make sure both politically and i think there's like
00:20:18.780 there there's always a logic to the promises that were made on behalf of these beneficiaries they
00:20:23.700 paid into trust funds for decades that and led surpluses in those trust funds and then the fiscal wonks
00:20:30.000 all said that that was a dedicated trust fund it though that was all spent money on government on
00:20:35.980 bureaucracy and so i think the american people are looking at sitting back and saying you know until you
00:20:40.580 deal with the statute of bob dylan in mozambique don't come and ask me to raise the retirement age in
00:20:46.560 social security and we don't do that this is a budget that could pass next year uh with the
00:20:51.580 commitments to donald trump made and also every republican's constituency should be able to pass
00:20:56.620 this budget this is uh a key point and differentiates what you guys have done from so much else
00:21:04.220 um and we're going to go back and make sure we reiterate that for the hours over because people
00:21:08.680 have to understand it okay so if i have essentially social security and medicare off to the side except for
00:21:14.640 some marginal tweaks and like prescription drugs um which would make it even better to the to the
00:21:22.240 beneficiaries um i've then got the whole discretionary part which is the defense budget and everything
00:21:28.020 else plus medicaid right is that essentially what is in the field of things i can deal with right the
00:21:34.560 discretionary part of this which is defense and all the other all the other departments agencies
00:21:39.300 the administrative state plus medicaid that is your field of hey let's go and figure out how we how we
00:21:46.400 deconstruct that is correct yeah well we have more mandatory reforms than just medicaid but you're
00:21:52.160 hitting the big moving targets the heart of this budget is on that discretionary piece why because that's
00:21:58.140 what members have a vote on every single year we talk about it on this program and they don't have a vote
00:22:04.040 on the mandatories every year they have to create a vote to do that and so not only is the number one
00:22:09.260 threat facing the country it's what the members have a vote on it but we deal with food stamp nation
00:22:14.060 we deal with the the fact that we're subsidizing colleges and universities through these subsidies to
00:22:20.920 for post-secondary degrees and graduate degrees we go at a lot of different things all from the
00:22:27.640 america first perspective and then we try to spend where we need to on infrastructure we increase money
00:22:33.140 for the department of transportation on nasa we we get rid of science and we put it towards space exploration
00:22:40.060 we give money to career and technical education in education because we want to be able to further that
00:22:46.040 and and de-emphasize hit the gas on on this notion that you don't need a college degree to be successful
00:22:52.700 and have a six-figure job down the road in some of these key areas where the economy has needs so that's really
00:22:59.420 how we're trying to go about this and all of the reforms that we are doing on the mandatory side
00:23:04.520 really fit in with getting the labor force participation uh growing and expanding so that
00:23:12.320 we can get better economic gains and reducing welfare so disability insurance people gain disability they
00:23:18.500 have an ability to get back in the workforce it's a form of welfare at this point we change that with
00:23:24.520 some common sense reforms over 10 years before we go to break and i want to get cortez in here but
00:23:29.360 real quickly over 10 years the aggregate spending that you took the nine train off was what what was
00:23:35.580 the aggregate spending in aggregate over the 10 years uh aggregate spending under the baseline
00:23:41.500 um would have been um about 30 um about 72 trillion dollars of spending over 10 years
00:23:52.080 72 trillion in that you cut that that is what's cut by nine trillion dollars over the 10 years right
00:23:58.780 that correct yep so we had just to give you a better perspective the baseline and that's just budget code
00:24:05.020 for um what you're currently expecting to spend under current law deficits are 15 trillion dollars
00:24:11.880 we turn those deficits into four trillion dollars and that's why we see the impact from a standpoint of
00:24:18.240 balance and why we believe you're putting the country on a fiscal trajectory that they can then
00:24:22.800 uh pay for we're going to go through that in the next segment um steve cortez i know you got to bounce
00:24:31.280 your summary thoughts here before we measure well listen there is a global bond market revolt going on a
00:24:37.040 revolt against joe biden and his budgets here in the united states so to some extent we don't have a
00:24:42.160 choice okay steve we have to pursue these reforms the bond market is forcing us into that but it's also a
00:24:47.480 good thing because as russ is pointing out it doesn't just make eminent economic sense it's also
00:24:52.880 the method to starve the beast that is permanent washington and all the damage that it is doing to
00:24:58.960 american society culturally uh politically in all ways economically starve the beast and the way we do
00:25:05.940 that is remove the funding for permanent washington yeah the administrative state is 72 trillion dollars
00:25:11.620 also you starve the beast you also it's also the crowding out in capital markets of
00:25:17.240 having to finance this over and over again yeah this has to happen it's just the methodology it's
00:25:23.200 going to happen and we're going to talk about that next cortez how do people get to you on social
00:25:27.380 media there's so much news breaking all the time and your live streams are fantastic your sub stacks
00:25:31.960 are fantastic i learn stuff every day thank you and i have a live stream today i'm going to be the
00:25:36.760 warm-up act for the afternoon war room so 4 p.m eastern i have a live stream on florida as the
00:25:41.820 political model uh for america 4 p.m on getter i'm at steve there at getter on twitter i'm at
00:25:48.180 cortez steve please see me at four and then tune in of course to war room at five but by the way i put
00:25:53.780 this de santis piece up which you hadn't had a chance to get to it's really amazing you're on
00:25:57.940 de santis piece so i hope you go through that in great detail by the way governor de santis i put
00:26:02.140 up on getter throwing down on the vax throwing down on modern and pfizer kind of hold him accountable
00:26:08.680 we're going to try to get his uh his uh surgeon uh general uh lapido dr lapido on here because he's
00:26:15.340 obviously a central part of that steve cortez thank you we're going to return uh with russ vote uh we're
00:26:20.820 going to be talking about your future because that's what these numbers do the manifestation of
00:26:25.680 this is the future for your children and your grandchildren all next in the war room
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00:27:54.320 stephen k van okay uh we want everybody out in metro phoenix december 17th through the 20th war room's
00:28:03.080 going to be there charlie kirk the team at turning point usa putting on this america fest everybody's
00:28:08.800 going to be there the list of speakers go to the website right now list of speakers going to be
00:28:12.380 amazing from josh hawley to tucker carlson candace owens yours truly uh i'm going to be there uh make
00:28:19.500 some presentations uh we're going to do the show live from there all of our production staff will
00:28:23.760 be there you get to meet everybody so we're going to do meet and greets make sure everybody gets to
00:28:28.500 know each other so make sure you come great way to end the year and most importantly focus on
00:28:32.660 2023 and beyond do we have the do we have the norman let's i want to play this this is how this
00:28:38.500 is what we're talking about on the politics of it ralph norman from south carolina one of the hard
00:28:43.820 nose in relation to us um kevin mccarthy let's hear it we're now honored to be joined by congressman
00:28:49.720 ralph norman from south carolina five uh congressman norman uh you were on the john solomon show last night
00:28:55.680 made some uh waves by saying that you were a hard no on kevin mccarthy as uh for speaker could you
00:29:02.240 walk us through your thinking on that sir sure well steve first of all uh there's nowhere it's
00:29:10.740 written that only one person can take the mantle of speaker kevin mccarthy has had four years to i
00:29:18.600 guess make the case why he's the best uh to handle the what's going to be a very difficult job
00:29:24.720 speaker of the house is the most powerful position i would argue in the country today particularly as it
00:29:31.380 affects the purse strings which the house controls um he did it with me or i guess this was the the
00:29:39.900 thing that one i didn't understand and two i was shocked when in front of the caucus i said
00:29:46.160 uh kevin would you agree to go with the rsc budget of seven years of balancing the budget which had some
00:29:53.880 severe cuts and uh he just said no and not only is the leader responsible for presenting the plan
00:30:02.280 but just a solid no uh led me to believe he's really not serious about it i'm done with 20-year
00:30:10.780 budgets the american people are done this country's got a cancer and uh ashburn's not gonna cure it and
00:30:17.500 do i want mccarthy going in negotiating with uh schumer and uh with the powers that be it's just not
00:30:26.560 in him to do it he's a nice man i like him but this country's we've got problems and economic
00:30:33.560 economic security is national security the two go hand in hand and i just don't think he's taking
00:30:38.680 it seriously and it's not business as usual in washington do you think you and i would be having
00:30:42.800 this conversation if the house if we had a 30 to 40 seat margin no it'd just be business as usual
00:30:50.520 and and went on and the great thing about what happened i never thought i'd say this is is a
00:30:56.260 slim majority uh that's ralph norman from south carolina uh interview we had a couple weeks ago now
00:31:02.860 uh russ vote i want you to respond to uh congressman ralph norman who said this country has a cancer
00:31:12.060 and aspirin's not gonna salt not gonna cure it sir yeah i agree with them i mean i think this is why
00:31:19.040 we wrote this budget is that there is a view on capitol hill that balance is not possible and that
00:31:26.820 there is not a real plan to be able to deal with our fiscal imbalances and so it allowed people like
00:31:33.100 kevin mccarthy to say well show me your plan uh and we wanted to be able to do that and so he right now
00:31:39.600 is not a paradigm shifting speaker because he has rejected really easy requests uh for instance why
00:31:47.420 didn't the commitment to america that they ran on no one probably knows that they ran on it but
00:31:52.340 you know why didn't that include a very simple we're going to balance in 10 uh maybe you don't
00:31:58.000 want to go to balance in seven because of some of the things you need to do in social security why not
00:32:01.380 balance in 10 and that would be something that then you just tell your budget chairman that's what
00:32:07.120 you need to do we're not having that debate because they didn't do it so we had to come
00:32:11.840 forward and give them a plan to do it so that whoever's the house budget committee chairman say
00:32:15.780 i may have some disagreements for how you got there but don't tell me it's not possible that's
00:32:20.680 what we're trying to solve and as a result we're busting through the cartel in a way that that really
00:32:25.920 shows them what can be done and allows a member like ralph norman to go into the speaker's chamber
00:32:31.120 and be able to say this has been done you guys need to get on board or you're not going to get my
00:32:35.660 vote the founders the in the wisdom of the founders they put the control of the appropriations
00:32:41.920 in the house because you're most responsible to the people this was the vision they had but to use
00:32:47.400 that leverage you got to get access to that leverage this is the whole thing this is why we fight this
00:32:52.260 omnibus every second of every day up here and then after the show because right now what they want
00:32:57.360 to do is give nancy pelosi a kiss all these people shelby and everybody they want to cut a big thing
00:33:02.220 for their lobbyists for their donors for their sponsors when they go out the door and really
00:33:06.720 handcuff uh the new house majority because let's talk about it you're fighting to say no we got to
00:33:13.260 do a short you guys have done so many short terms do another short term let's get into january
00:33:16.960 once we get into january i keep saying you're going to need titanium stones to do this just in year one
00:33:24.620 i want to make sure the audience gets a fair assessment of this just in year one the fiscal
00:33:29.120 year that we're talking about that we don't want to do the omnibus we'll handle next year
00:33:32.700 what type of cuts in discretionary spending are you arguing for sir when you read our budget most of
00:33:40.680 our numbers are going to be in fiscal year 21 when we missed a year because that's kind of how
00:33:45.240 the most accurate information we had but let me give you the number as a fiscal year 22 okay this is the
00:33:51.420 real numbers from a non-defense perspective we're asking for about 25 cut we're actually
00:33:56.740 increasing defense spending by six percent not as much as they want they want a 10 increase in this
00:34:02.100 ndaa and then we've we restrain it in the years ahead as we get a hold of our america first
00:34:07.920 commitments overseas entanglements but for next year you know you've got a six percent increase in
00:34:13.420 defense and you've got a 25 cut non-defense and we've given you every opportunity to have provide a
00:34:19.200 specific so we can tell you exactly where we believe your surgical scalpel should be we're
00:34:24.960 not asking for across the board cuts here hold it so and first off you know and i know there's logic
00:34:31.620 there i i'm for and i'm a hawk i'm for we have to cut defense and i think we have to have some real
00:34:37.580 cuts in defense start using economic warfare more than navy's got to be built up we have we have to
00:34:42.660 reorganize the defense budget's out of control right it's just out of control and it's no thinking i don't
00:34:47.900 even know if we got audits we'll get into that later but let's wonder when you say 25 you you say
00:34:52.780 take defense out of all the other discretionary spending right you're saying that it's going to
00:34:59.120 be a top line 25 cut but you're going to go through program programmatically programmatic to program
00:35:05.100 is is have you met a republican yet that's prepared because that means you're you're you're forcing a
00:35:13.100 showdown with biden that they'll clearly shut down the government right do you have you met a
00:35:18.640 republican yet that has the guts to put to stand and deliver on that uh on on those type of cuts
00:35:25.420 coming out of the box i believe so i think your members in your house freedom caucus
00:35:31.300 we've been working with a lot of them to preview what we're doing they asked for this budget they have
00:35:37.200 the guts to do that but here's the thing steve we intentionally wrote this budget from a non-accounting
00:35:44.560 austerity perspective so what what does that mean it means we're funding things that we believe are
00:35:49.840 important as conservatives america first uh individuals and we are cutting things that any
00:35:55.440 conservative should be able to go home and explain to their voters why they have the moral high ground to
00:36:00.860 cut it so whether that's hud whether that's epa that's putting navy veterans in jail for violating
00:36:06.060 waters of the united states and putting four ponds on their ranch in every agency we have given the
00:36:11.740 moral high ground for why they can be for the cuts and so do we have all republicans supportive of this
00:36:17.540 no not yet but we're we're calling their bluff to say we have written a budget that you can sell in any of
00:36:25.060 your constituencies we go light on farm programs we have increases for florida in in in nasa space
00:36:31.760 exploration we increase funding for veterans we have an increase for defense but we we do to your
00:36:37.140 point make significant reforms to the complex the the industrial complex but we're calling the bluff of
00:36:43.220 the appropriators the republican establishment cartel members to say don't be for autopilot bureaucracy
00:36:50.820 as far as the eye can see come and look at why they are arrayed against your own voters and then take
00:36:58.060 that to the floor of the house and vote it because we believe this is something that you can sell and
00:37:02.540 win politically yeah okay so we're going to take a lot more time on this i think what we're going to do
00:37:07.900 is actually have a special either on getter i'll take the six o'clock show where i have a little more
00:37:12.380 breathing room to go through it here's why russ vote is the guy to do this and here's why when we were in
00:37:19.080 the white house with this massive five and a half six trillion dollars you can call russ up and say
00:37:24.960 hey look i got questions about this program and then he said give me 20 minutes he come over with
00:37:30.880 two guys right the two guys with the you know the veins running up the cranium of the forehead to the
00:37:36.180 smartest guys ever met in any program he would walk you through the details on a week-by-week basis of
00:37:41.380 how the money was going out and where it was going programmatically so if you have to talk about
00:37:45.960 somebody programmatically so many people just spin it top line russ vote can bring the receipts
00:37:51.980 he spent essentially his life or at least the last couple of years with president trump going through
00:37:58.240 every line of this budget so he can sit there in front of somebody and say hey here's how you have
00:38:02.400 to do it so in that budget it's not just oh we're just going to do across the board 25 cut you actually
00:38:08.280 go into the administrative state program by program essentially and say we're not funding this
00:38:13.980 anymore right this is ridiculous this is anti not just conservative a lot of this stuff goes against
00:38:19.880 uh even the basic foundational elements of the country in addition in addition you got to take
00:38:26.980 the calculation of how you're going to finance it and what russ is saying i'm going to bring interest
00:38:32.400 rates down and get growth up because i'm a show that we're going to take the beast down we're going to
00:38:37.080 take the leviathan down take out the crowding out of in the capital markets of this continual
00:38:42.800 federal reserve having to go out and print additional money that's essentially the theory
00:38:47.780 of the case it's program by program right it's not just some general cut program by program do you
00:38:52.620 get to the cuts and you'll see a concomitant eventual drop in interest rates and you'll see
00:38:57.760 an increase in growth is that essentially the model you nailed it we want to give people who want
00:39:04.840 to deal with our fiscal house we want to give them moral high ground to know that they are saving
00:39:09.940 the country from a government that is oppressing them right now okay so russ vote you're gonna
00:39:15.900 i know you got to bounce uh and i want to give you a couple minutes you're going to roll this out
00:39:19.900 by the way they're going to rip russ votes face off just understand because this is what dc's dc is
00:39:28.520 about money and power okay and russ vote is walking in and say hey i got a way to both uh take down the
00:39:36.480 money and get it back to the american people and decrease your power so ought to that is the heart
00:39:41.540 drain the swamps too too cute a term this is the kill zone this is where it'll get nasty it'll get
00:39:47.520 personal this is why they get the fbi and doj all in twitter this is this is their greatest fear
00:39:53.860 this is trump this is trumpism weaponized this is trumpism going to the heart of the problem the
00:40:01.640 administrative state okay and how it's funded how it grows is what's into and russ is sitting there
00:40:07.740 going you know i think you're in a couple of areas he shouldn't be and here's what we're going to do
00:40:12.000 how about zero how about zero the fights on capitol hill are going to be firefights like you've never
00:40:18.240 seen before literally that russ voting of a big picture of russ voting a poster of taking food out
00:40:23.080 of baby's mouths of kicking people into being homeless of you're going to be you're going to be
00:40:28.580 scrooge on testosterone correct russ vote you know it's coming yeah we know it's coming and that's
00:40:34.500 what this is all about you're not going to save your country by by avoiding the fire the only way
00:40:39.920 out is through the fire the people on this on this show are those who realize that they are the cavalry
00:40:46.700 and we want to arm every statesman at the local level to know exactly how to save their country
00:40:52.440 fiscally and culturally because it can be done and right now what you're seeing in this lame
00:40:58.400 duck is you are seeing this show will politicians to fight for a new speaker to fight against the
00:41:05.340 lame duck spending package and to fight for a balanced budget that deals with woken weaponized
00:41:10.700 bureaucracy that is what we know we have behind us in this fight and that's going to give us
00:41:17.200 encouragement every step of the way as this gets hot and heavy we're going to keep russ for a few
00:41:22.840 minutes after the break because we're going to ask him about specifically about the rollout today
00:41:26.100 heroic measures uh from his center we're getting all that how it's going to be rolled out how you
00:41:31.800 learn more about it short break russ vote for a few minutes on the other side
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00:43:50.100 okay russ vote is i guess again for a few more minutes by the way up on capitol hill russ debt ceiling
00:43:56.340 i think we might themes even kind of signal that might have been kicked into next year because we've made
00:44:01.400 it too hot to handle uh the the amnesty thing we're going to fight that's josh hawley and others
00:44:07.140 even cornyn said there'll be no immigration deal so cornyn who's never really been that hard on it
00:44:11.820 said ain't happening because he runs their understanding of running out of texas um we've
00:44:17.040 got the defense authorization that's a whole fiasco tell us about omnibus are we going to have a chance
00:44:22.520 to allow you to provide the tools to the new house whoever the speaker is to fight this is this going to
00:44:30.460 get kicked into january are we going to are they going to cut deals we're going to lose this right now as
00:44:34.580 you see it right now the trend lines are going in our direction on kicking that spending leverage
00:44:41.620 point into the new years yesterday mitch mcconnell said and floated the idea of a short-term cr
00:44:47.980 obviously this program has been pushing that for months a year frankly and so we are in we're on the
00:44:55.640 cusp of winning on the debt limit we've i think we already have one on that we are about to win on the
00:45:00.680 omnibus bill we have immense pressure on the speaker's race i don't my hope is that the folks
00:45:06.300 who listen to this and interact with their members of congress in a real way don't get tired of winning
00:45:10.640 because we have a real shot to have paradigm shifting results we just got to keep it up for
00:45:16.260 a couple more days to get this out of the hands of the retiring big spenders like roy blunt and dick
00:45:22.640 shelby and into the new congress where you have a slim house majority that can use the power of the
00:45:28.320 purse effectively um and i want everybody to man the phones get to your house members today because
00:45:34.400 this fight so mitch mcconnell i think was also signaling to the guys that he wants to cut the
00:45:39.380 deals you better cut the deals you got like 24 hours to cut your deals i don't have to go in a
00:45:43.120 different direction so trust me mitch mcconnell wants the omnibus done um ross for our audience how
00:45:51.520 does it where do you go on the rollout of this now where should they be looking it's going to look
00:45:56.400 like a lot of hand-to-hand work where we're going to be getting in front of members of congress
00:45:59.880 and educating on what we do in various aspects of this and winning the debate look we we try to pick
00:46:05.240 big confrontation big fights nationalize the debate over strategic leverage points so now we're going
00:46:11.260 to go and nationalize it and win the debate and this is a huge part of what we're trying to do
00:46:16.640 you can get me at any of the channels at russ vote you'll get details if you go to americarenewing.com
00:46:22.780 you'll see a two-page executive summary you'll see the whole hundred page budget you'll see a list
00:46:28.260 of our examples of the worst the worst of the woke and the weaponized and you'll see an introduction
00:46:33.400 from me which gets at the ways that we're trying to change the paradigms that has caused us to lose
00:46:39.260 for 20 years i'm trying i'm tired of being in a cul-de-sac where we lose on every budget battle
00:46:44.080 because we don't have the moral high ground because our own people are defending leviathan
00:46:48.620 i want to delegitimize leviathan by the way this is going to be the fight i mean this is going to be
00:46:54.720 it's going to be gnarly but it should be it's got to be you're going to save the country this is the
00:46:59.340 fight you have to have russ vote one more time how do they get to the site i want people to get their
00:47:03.780 up to their elbows in this thing to know the details they can go right now americarenewing.com
00:47:10.500 the budget is all all over the place uh find the details and then on getter truth and even twitter
00:47:17.920 at russ vote they can get all the details russ vote uh thank you honored to have you on here great work
00:47:24.540 and uh we'll help you we we will have your back in nationalizing this debate about leviathan thank you
00:47:30.200 sir thanks steve the paradigm shift is the administrative state and the funding mechanism for
00:47:36.340 it this is why things are out of control and too many people you elect get there and they've got the
00:47:40.400 uh the administrative state do we have larry fink what a great way let's i tell you what let's go
00:47:44.560 ahead and play larry fink uh one of the worst people in this country uh yammering on at uh at deal book
00:47:50.920 at the conference let's play it i don't think there's been any changes at all we've always talked
00:47:56.400 first of all we're writing things that we think about are really being impactful the long term
00:48:01.540 unfortunately the long term is not something that is topical today and let's be clear populism is not
00:48:07.640 about long termism populism is about the moment and let me be clear one of the greatest reasons
00:48:12.980 we have inflation is because of populism we are doing things for the short term we're trying and
00:48:18.580 so many of things i mean i could go on on the whole short termism of populism what we've done
00:48:23.520 and created this inflation but um you know i've always spoken guy is this guy's a bozo a former bond
00:48:32.100 trader okay this guy's a clown he couldn't stand everything he said there's a lie he's blaming
00:48:39.320 inflation on populism he's blaming inflation on populism uh ronda santis did the other day he jerked
00:48:47.400 two billion dollars i think it was two billion dollars of florida pension funds state controlled
00:48:52.240 out of black rock black larry fink is one of the most evil destructive individuals in this nation
00:48:58.360 okay evil destructive individuals with no real academic background there's no real he's a bond trader
00:49:04.640 that's an asset manager now okay a bond trader is an asset manager and yet he's the great titan of
00:49:10.520 wall street he's going to dictate esg all this this incredibly destructive ideas and
00:49:17.060 concepts emanate from all these intellectuals the intelligentsia right around him and then he comes
00:49:22.960 up with it and he's the great uh he's the great prophet of this larry fink is a clown a dangerous
00:49:28.620 clown and we're going to make him famous because larry fink's one of the guys the guy has to be
00:49:33.580 confronted and this gets to all this donor class the big donor class also in back of the republican
00:49:39.620 party larry fink's not that he's a uh you know he's a hardcore you may lie about it he's a hardcore
00:49:44.980 democrat but this is you know populism's uh the inflation problem is because of populism
00:49:50.240 inflation problems because of populism well larry why don't you address uh russ vote's
00:49:55.320 uh budget because this appropriation is this budget the spending of money this is a pot the the populist
00:50:02.520 don't want to feed the beast and they don't want to feed dangerous clowns like you who are in business
00:50:09.840 with the chinese communist party let me give you some long-termism right a couple with some short
00:50:15.060 termism ask laobai jing about larry fink ask laobai jing the enslaved people of china about larry fink
00:50:22.140 in the in the oligarchs on wall street we'll get into all that five to seven back here we're going to
00:50:27.560 be lit today as every day see you back here at war room at uh at uh 5 p.m until then make sure by the
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00:50:43.260 action i want everybody to show up we want to meet everybody we want to hang out we also want you to
00:50:48.760 be around the show while we're putting together the year end in the beginning of a new dawn in 2023
00:50:55.160 okay see you back here at fiber block
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