Bannon's War Room - Episode 2366： Understanding The Threat Of China; Elon Going Full WarRoom

00:00:01.000 This is the primal scream of a dying regime.

00:00:06.000 Pray for our enemies,

00:00:08.000 because we're going to medieval on these people.

00:00:11.000 You're just not going to free shot all these networks lying about the people.

00:00:15.000 The people have had a belly full of it.

00:00:17.000 I know you don't like hearing that.

00:00:19.000 I know you've tried to do everything in the world to stop that,

00:00:21.000 but you're not going to stop it. It's going to happen.

00:00:23.000 And where do people like that go to share the big line?

00:00:26.000 Mega Media.

00:00:27.000 I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.

00:00:32.000 Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?

00:00:36.000 If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.

00:00:42.000 War Room. Here's your host, Stephen K. Back.

00:00:50.000 Now, you know, Mike Barclay, it wasn't so long ago

00:00:53.000 that Steve King had all of his committee assignments taken away from him by Republicans for saying things that actually look very mild compared to what Marjorie Taylor Greene said this weekend.

00:01:08.000 And again, here's somebody talking about an insurrection and talking about how it should have been armed.

00:01:14.000 You know, Joe, there's there seems to be a consensus that Kevin McCarthy is of limited ability and he has made so many deals thus far.

00:01:21.000 Just listening to Brendan reminded me of this.

00:01:23.000 He's made so many deals thus far over the past three or four years in his pursuit of becoming speaker that he can no longer remember what deals he made.

00:01:31.000 If you want to know the future of the Republican Party, as you were discussing quite articulately last hour, take a look at the cover of the New York Post this morning.

00:01:40.000 Eyes on the spies. And it's the Republicans intention, Kevin McCarthy's intention to subpoena 51 former members of the American intelligence community to pursue the Hunter Biden story.

00:01:54.000 So if you're out there sitting at home, if you're out there sitting at home worried about your home heating oil bill, your grocery bill, the status of your kids in school, forget about that because we've got to get to the bottom of the Hunter Biden story.

00:02:08.000 We've got to cut Clapper and Brennan in and find out why they lied.

00:02:13.000 Yeah, no, we've seen this before where they go after Joe Biden's remaining son.

00:02:18.000 You know, the people like Joe Biden. They this is has been we've gone through this.

00:02:23.600 Haven't we gone through this? The thing is, let the chips fall where they may.

00:02:28.000 If Hunter Biden has done anything wrong, the DOJ is investigating him.

00:02:33.000 Let the chips fall where they may.

00:02:35.000 But this singular obsession, though, as I've said before, they're in a bubble and it causes them to lose.

00:02:42.000 Now, as everybody knows, the New York Post, it's the official paper of Morning Joe.

00:02:47.000 So I don't ever speak ill of the New York Post.

00:02:51.000 I will say they got way ahead of themselves on Durham's hilariously bad investigation.

00:02:58.000 Just like the Wall Street Journal had some op-ed writers way every time they go down this path and they want to investigate the investigators.

00:03:08.000 They want to attack the FBI. They want to attack the CIA.

00:03:11.000 They want to attack the intel community. It never pays off for them.

00:03:16.000 In a world of lies, conspiracies and divisive rhetoric, it is sometimes a tough call on which ones to give oxygen to and which ones to ignore.

00:03:23.000 But this morning, a sitting U.S. Congresswoman suggests that if she had been in charge of the January 6th attack on the Capitol, the crowd.

00:03:30.000 Go ahead, Denver. We're going to cut this. I'll tell you what we're going to do is play.

00:03:34.000 This is so good. I want to play that later. But I got I got wood.

00:03:37.000 I got a chop Monday, 12 December, year of our Lord, 2022.

00:03:42.000 Pretty historic weekend when we talk about investigations and getting to the bottom of the administrative state.

00:03:48.000 And it's it's compliance with complicity with partnership with the Chinese Communist Party.

00:03:54.000 So like on a morning, Joe sitting there laughing. Oh, yeah, that's so funny.

00:03:58.000 The 51 intelligence officers, the New York Post have been covered.

00:04:01.000 We're not going to do that. We're not going to do Hunter Biden.

00:04:03.000 We've got the paper here somewhere, the exclusive yesterday by John Levine or Levine of the New York Post with Comer about the subpoenas are ready to go.

00:04:16.000 So if you look at what's happened in the last 48 hours from coming out of Twitter about the prosecution of Fauci, about, as this audience knows, the Great Barrington Declaration,

00:04:27.000 the way the Stanford and Harvard and Yale professors were crushed by Fauci and in big pharma.

00:04:34.000 That's all going to come out. You've got more information about the intelligence officers, more information about Hunter Biden.

00:04:41.000 And it's a full game on the big headline coming in the New York Post yesterday is that they're ready to go with subpoenas like January 3rd or the morning of the 4th.

00:04:52.000 They've been investigating. Comer has had a staff on this since he says for a year.

00:04:57.000 And so there's so much going on. I want to bring in Boris Epstein. Boris, the the sea change here in the last 72 hours.

00:05:05.000 And here's the reason, you know, Elon Musk has gone full war room.

00:05:09.000 He's saying, hey, we need more signal, less noise over at Twitter and for the mainstream media.

00:05:14.000 He's talking about prosecute Fauci. And most importantly, he admitted he bought a crime scene.

00:05:21.000 He says, oh, you know, this is both a social media platform and a crime scene.

00:05:25.000 The crime is not the merely the Twitter executives don't that's chasing rabbits.

00:05:34.000 Yes, they're complicit in this. But like Jack Posobiec said, this is an intelligence operation.

00:05:40.000 This is a absolute coup against Donald Trump from his own administration, his FBI director, Ray, his attorney general, Barr, his head of DHS, his head of SISA or SISA.

00:05:55.000 DNI, I think, is in there. You've got DOD expert. You have Millet. You got all of it.

00:06:01.000 And it's all going to come out. And in morning, Joe can laugh about it.

00:06:05.000 And by the way, people can walk and chew gum at the same time.

00:06:08.000 That's where we're fighting this omnibus bill, the debt ceiling, all the stuff of the administrative state, all the funding they need from the Federal Reserve.

00:06:15.000 So it's pitched battle in Washington, D.C. Boris Epstein, your assessment of all this, sir.

00:06:22.000 Steve, good morning. Great to be with you. Honored to be with you and the posse this morning.

00:06:27.000 What you're hearing there from Morning Mika and all those deranged members of the establishment is nerves. 0.87

00:06:36.000 They're worried because they know that they have been exposed.

00:06:39.000 They know that what has been now shown to the world is that there's absolutely zero doubt that deep state Democrats and big tech colluded to de-platform, stensor and injure President Donald J. Trump.

00:06:56.000 It was absolutely a part of a coup, coup that has actually started before the election with a Russia hoax, continued through the election with a Russia hoax and two impeachments.

00:07:08.000 And now is continuing as a preemptive coup with these absolutely fake, false and weaponization of law enforcement against President Trump.

00:07:21.000 So all this ties together in a collusion conspiracy against President Trump and against MAGA.

00:07:29.000 And you're totally right. If I had to point to one most important statement from Elon Musk over the last several weeks, it is saying that Twitter is a crime scene.

00:07:40.000 And what is the crime? The crime is the stealing of the 2020 election from President Donald J. Trump.

00:07:47.000 That is what the crime is. Stealing that election from President Trump, stealing it from MAGA and stealing it from the American public.

00:07:54.000 And you better believe that the chickens are coming home to roost.

00:07:59.000 Musk also calling out Perkins Cooley for rigging the election, rigging and stealing of the 2020 election.

00:08:07.000 That is what was undertaken. That is what was attempted. And that is what they did.

00:08:13.000 And you've got all the elements of a crime dead to right. And by the way, this is very important.

00:08:19.000 Those people are going to say, well, this is just Twitter. It's a private company.

00:08:23.000 Sure. But once that private company starts coordinating and colluding with government entities, FBI, DHS, DNI, that is government action.

00:08:33.000 And you've got full on First Amendment violations that Twitter in collusion with the deep state committed.

00:08:42.000 No, I mean, it's pretty shocking. And you look at, you know, you look at and all look, all roads lead back to the CCP.

00:08:50.000 I've got Dr. Thayer in studio. Monica Crowley's on deck to talk about all that, because whether it's the Wuhan lab, whether it's Fauci, whether it's the Great Barrington Declaration.

00:09:00.000 I mean, he's one after the other. But the heart of this is and I want to make sure everybody understands this.

00:09:07.000 It's not just Twitter and his executives. That is not a misdirection play.

00:09:11.000 But that is the noise, not the signal. The signal here is the fact of the FBI and DOJ's direct involvement and really using Twitter as a as a as a platform for an intelligence operation.

00:09:26.000 Am I correct in that, sir? No doubt about it. Absolutely.

00:09:31.000 Twitter was just a tool in the hands of the deep state and attacking President Trump and doing all they can to prevent President Trump from being reelected.

00:09:40.000 And now we have seen inside the belly of the beast. We've seen inside the belly of the beast the revelations of the weekly meetings, the messaging on all of them.

00:09:50.000 This this post needs to be throttled down. This post cannot be allowed to be throttled up.

00:09:55.000 That kind of censorship, that kind of collusion has only been seen historically and this was obviously before Big Tech, but the cooperation between government law, weaponized law enforcement and enterprise has only been seen in tyrannical countries.

00:10:12.000 And Steve, you're right. That's what that's what happens in the CCP companies that appear to be to the outside world to be free and actual businesses are just arms of their deep state.

00:10:22.000 You're a deep state. And now you've got liberals who have been ingrained, woke liberals ingrained as people should know this, right?

00:10:29.000 There's political appointees and then there's career appointees and career appointees in the government make up a huge majority of the staff.

00:10:36.000 And those woke liberal members of the career, career appointees have been colluded with Twitter and others.

00:10:43.000 And it's not just Twitter. We know it's other Facebook, others as well, colluding against MAGA, against President Trump and did all they can to rig and steal the 2020 presidential election.

00:10:56.000 And again, look at the facts. There's no way there's no way that Joe Biden got 81 million votes.

00:11:03.000 There's no way that the numbers out of Wisconsin, Georgia, Arizona and Nevada are real possible.

00:11:09.000 And anybody who called them out for it was punished by this collusion between deep state government, weaponized law enforcement, Democrats and Big Tech.

00:11:19.000 Talk to us about this kind of surprise, at least it caught the mainstream media by surprise development by this federal judge on the contempt issue on Friday.

00:11:29.000 So, you know, that whole development, the whole proceeding is under seal.

00:11:34.000 So I've got to be I've got to be careful. But if you look at the public reporting, you will see the mainstream media is screaming, crying because they were expecting a ruling against President Trump and his team.

00:11:43.640 And what they what they what they received, again, according to public reports is the absolute opposite.

00:11:48.640 And what this tells you is that this weaponization is overreaching by long for by the highest level of law enforcement, by the highest level of the Department of Justice, in quotes.

00:11:59.640 And of course, by the pathetic hope of Biden administration, that overreaching is running into a brick wall.

00:12:06.640 And even liberals, even even liberal appointed judges and justices are saying this is too much.

00:12:13.640 We have to stand up for our country. So there are days and days and days of leaking before Friday.

00:12:20.640 And the Washington Post was acting as the spokesperson for the DOJ and the weaponized law enforcement.

00:12:25.640 And then you haven't heard much from them after because they did not get the result that they pushed so hard for.

00:12:30.640 Again, according to public reports. Boris, how do people follow you now more than ever on your social media?

00:12:37.640 What are your coordinates? Well, Steve, President Trump and his team, we're going to continue to fight against organization.

00:12:44.640 We're going to continue to fight against collusion between Democrats, deep state establishment and big tech.

00:12:49.640 We're going to stand for America and bring our country back to greatness. That's what it's all about.

00:12:54.640 That's what President Trump is running for the Oval Office again.

00:12:57.640 My information, BorisCP.com is the website hot on BorisCP.com.

00:13:01.640 Hot on getter at BorisCP. Hot on Twitter at BorisCP. Hot on true social at Boris.

00:13:06.640 And the hottest on the gram, Boris underscore Epstein.

00:13:09.640 Stay strong. God bless all offense. And I'll talk to you tomorrow.

00:13:13.640 Thank you, Boris. Thank you very much.

00:13:15.640 To start off coming in hot, as we say, Dr. Bradley Thayer is in studio for a couple of segments.

00:13:21.640 I got Monica Crowley on deck. All roads.

00:13:24.640 When you go back to Dr. Thayer in everything Elon Musk is talking about this weekend,

00:13:30.640 all roads go back to the CCP, the Hunter Biden situation, the Great Barrington Declaration,

00:13:36.640 the Wuhan lab prosecuting Fauci, everything, the 51 intelligence officers.

00:13:41.640 It all goes back to the CCP. How does that fall into your new book, Understanding the China Threat?

00:13:46.640 How does it go back into the China Threat that's here and a present danger in this country, sir? 0.99

00:13:51.640 Well, Steve, it's great to join you in the studio today.

00:13:55.640 It shows really what a mess we're in and how we got into this mess through the problem of elite capture.

00:14:03.640 The fact that the Chinese Communist Party designed a strategy to stay, not repeat the mistake that the Soviet Union did,

00:14:12.640 but to enter into a Western economic ecosystem and with the cooperation of Western politicians, Western business people.

00:14:21.640 And so what you had was a lot of individuals for decades, year after year, get rich through this interaction and their influence grew year by year.

00:14:33.640 And so what we've had has you're saying the Soviets had a decoupling from the beginning and that's why they didn't.

00:14:39.640 Let's go to break. We got a short commercial break. I've got got a couple of pens up here.

00:14:44.640 I've got Monica Crowley. We've got Dr. Bradley Thayer, the new book, Understanding the China Threat.

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00:16:11.640 Two things in the, in the post, of course, of the story that was the paper, Alexander Hamilton's paper now owned by Murdoch.

00:16:18.640 I think oldest continuous paper in the country or closer, but the oldest, most prestigious tabloid in the world.

00:16:25.640 And I say that lovingly, just doing a great job.

00:16:27.640 The Sunday morning edition, because all roads, I don't want anybody in this audience to be misled by, cause you're too smart for that.

00:16:37.640 And you've been better trained than that on this show.

00:16:40.640 All roads lead back to our mortal enemy, the Chinese Communist Party, all roads. 0.99

00:16:46.640 Okay.

00:16:47.640 In the Sunday edition, they had an exclusive, John Levin, who's the great reporter that had the exclusive thing on Hunter Biden and the investigation with Comer.

00:17:01.640 And it is absolutely, they've been working on this for a year.

00:17:06.640 And I want to quote, they got, um, uh, what we learned from interviews is that more than that is also an effort to try to help the Chinese Communist Party get their foot in the door and try to purchase drillers.

00:17:16.640 They start buying ownership and infrastructure, American energy industry.

00:17:20.640 It just goes on and on and on.

00:17:22.640 This is China trying to buy ownership into our American industry. 0.91

00:17:25.640 This is a national security threat.

00:17:26.640 They've got subpoenas ready to roll.

00:17:28.640 Subpoenas ready to roll on the afternoon, January 3rd.

00:17:31.640 Comer and the oversight committee, they're ready to roll.

00:17:34.640 You now know the 50.

00:17:36.640 Can we get the, uh, can we get the, uh, the New York post this morning of the 51 this morning?

00:17:41.640 Joe, they're laughing and they're, and you've got to remember what network are they for?

00:17:46.640 MSNBC.

00:17:47.640 Who, who did the Olympics? 1.00

00:17:49.640 Who, who kowtos and kisses the Chinese Communist Party's ass and gives them money for propaganda? 1.00

00:17:53.640 NBC. 1.00

00:17:54.640 NBC is a propaganda arm of the Chinese Communist Party.

00:17:57.640 Look at that.

00:17:58.640 Look at the winter Olympics.

00:17:59.640 By the way, the winter Olympics were Putin, were Putin and, uh, came over and that's where he made the deal with, uh, with Xi.

00:18:06.640 We're going to be partners in the Eurasian landmass.

00:18:08.640 You're going to have to have my back.

00:18:09.640 You're going to have to underwrite me.

00:18:10.640 I'm going to go through some tough times.

00:18:12.640 We're going to cut some big time energy deals.

00:18:14.640 I'm going to give you natural gas.

00:18:16.640 Yes.

00:18:17.640 You have the output deal right now with the Persians in Iran, right? 0.99

00:18:20.640 You're going to get one with the Saudis. 1.00

00:18:22.640 You're going to control the, the, the, the Iranian oil assets.

00:18:25.640 Cause we're going to take it for 40 years.

00:18:27.640 The CCP is you're going to take it in, uh, in the Gulf with the, uh, with the, uh, with the Saudis.

00:18:33.640 And oh, by the way, we're going to do a basket of currencies.

00:18:36.640 It's going to get off the U S dollar.

00:18:38.640 This is very well thought through.

00:18:40.640 These people are, they are hammers.

00:18:43.640 They're controlling great empires and they act like adults, not like the children we have.

00:18:48.640 And they go.

00:18:49.640 So, and that's why understanding the China threat, this is elite capture.

00:18:54.640 This is what they do.

00:18:55.640 Dr. Thayer, all roads lead back to the Chinese communist party and all roads lead back.

00:19:00.640 Sam Faddis, the great Sam Faddis.

00:19:02.640 Gaffney had an interview with the great Sam Faddis who spent a career with the CIA and other intelligence, you know, operations, his entire career.

00:19:10.640 He says, Biden's a controlled, a controlled, uh, controlled asset.

00:19:13.640 This is what elite, when you see the Hunter Biden laptop, it's not about Hunter Biden.

00:19:18.640 He's just, he's just the new business guy.

00:19:20.640 He's drinking what the client's drinking, right?

00:19:22.640 The asset they're trying to monetize is the office of the vice president.

00:19:26.640 And then the office of the presidency of Joe Biden.

00:19:29.640 That's why Joe, Dr. Thayer, this is how they roll, right?

00:19:32.640 This is one of the aspects of when they have a overall strategy, you talk about elite capture, elite capture is through money, blackmail, sex, all of it.

00:19:42.640 And by the way, in Hunter, they got a, like I used to say, you come for the point, you come for the perversion, you stay for the compromise, right?

00:19:48.640 And all this is coming out all and they, and they've got David Brock and these guys trying to intimidate witnesses already.

00:19:54.640 They're coming all of us for defamation. 0.98

00:19:56.640 Hey, suck on a couple of subpoenas. 0.97

00:19:58.640 They're going to come from the oversight committee. 1.00

00:20:00.640 Suck on a few of those before you start rolling a defamation. 0.99

00:20:03.640 People are not going to back off this. 1.00

00:20:05.640 These people are traitors. 0.95

00:20:06.640 Let me be very specific. 0.78

00:20:07.640 The 51 intelligence officers knew at the time it was not Russian disinformation.

00:20:14.640 They knew with what a CEF and these other Chinese Communist Party apparition and that they also had intelligence.

00:20:21.640 Patrick Ho and other intelligence officers that told Hunter Biden, they knew exactly what they had. 0.83

00:20:27.640 These, the Bidens are traitors. 0.98

00:20:29.640 The people around them are traitors. 1.00

00:20:31.640 The 51 intelligence officers are traitors. 1.00

00:20:33.640 Okay. 0.99

00:20:34.640 Traitors guilty of treason.

00:20:36.640 And we're not going to stop. 1.00

00:20:38.640 This is going to get big league ugly and morning Joe and the plagiarist from the Boston Globe, the moronic Irishman. 0.99

00:20:46.640 They roll that guy out as like the drunk, the weird drunk Irish uncle, right? 0.99

00:20:52.640 No. 0.95

00:20:53.640 Laugh all you want.

00:20:54.640 We love you laughing.

00:20:55.640 Hey.

00:20:56.640 Okay.

00:20:57.640 We're as my mom used to say, we're gonna give you something to laugh about.

00:21:00.640 Dr. Bradley Thayer.

00:21:01.640 Sure.

00:21:02.640 Steve, I think we need to recognize, of course, that Deng Xiaoping was one of the greatest strategists of the 20th century, bar none.

00:21:08.640 He was able to reform China, put China on the path for economic reform while refusing to execute political reform.

00:21:17.640 So what we got was a China that was welcome to investment from the West.

00:21:22.640 And, of course, so many Western firms did invest in China.

00:21:26.640 And that allowed a stake basically for politicians, for elites throughout the West to become stakeholders in China's rise.

00:21:37.640 And so what we're witnessing now really are the fruits of that labor.

00:21:41.640 And we've been witnessing it for decades.

00:21:43.640 It's not a new thing.

00:21:44.640 It's coming to the head, obviously, for the reasons that you identified.

00:21:48.640 But this is China's strategy. 0.52

00:21:50.640 And they have many different avenues of advancing it.

00:21:54.640 And that helps also.

00:21:56.640 It's China's strategy. 0.96

00:21:57.640 But in Tiananmen, remember, in that six month period where the Berlin Wall fell because they had been decoupled, right?

00:22:03.640 Scowcroft is flown over by the Bushes to tell Deng Xiaoping when their backs against the wall in Tiananmen to say, hey, look, let's get a partnership, right?

00:22:13.640 You're going to be the manufacturing base.

00:22:15.640 This is our elites have been in on this from the beginning.

00:22:20.640 If the Bush 41 had not flown in and had Deng Xiaoping's back, Tiananmen would have gone throughout the nation and you had a free China today. 0.98

00:22:29.640 The Chinese Communist Party has been in business with the political and economic elites and capital markets elites of the United States of America in the entire West.

00:22:38.640 Right.

00:22:39.640 Since the beginning, this is what McCarthy.

00:22:42.640 McCarthy.

00:22:43.640 I said this the other day, McCarthy came to fame for what?

00:22:46.640 Who lost China in 49?

00:22:48.640 When Marshall, the place was infested with communists in the State Department, infested with communists.

00:22:54.640 John Server, Patrick Davies and those guys, they were all touting, oh, the Chinese Communist Party are just reformers.

00:23:01.640 They're just land reformers. 1.00

00:23:02.640 It's agrarian populism, right? 0.99

00:23:04.640 It's all crap at the time. 0.98

00:23:05.640 The American elites, the American Atlanticist elites, right, have been in business with the Chinese Communist Party since the very beginning. 0.99

00:23:15.640 And now we got it and he caught them red handed with taking money.

00:23:18.640 He caught the intelligence apparatus saying this is a Russian disinformation.

00:23:23.640 Is there any doubt in your mind they knew it was a lie when they said that, Dr. Thayer, given their sophistication?

00:23:28.640 No, none whatsoever.

00:23:30.640 And they recognized what they were doing and the purpose that it was going to serve to help their favorite candidate win the election.

00:23:39.640 Understanding the China threat. 0.80

00:23:40.640 This thing is pretty, by the way, a very prestigious publisher.

00:23:43.640 I got my favorite guy, Lin Chao Han, and he's in the first position.

00:23:46.640 Dr. Thayer, you're such a classy guy in doing that.

00:23:49.640 Lin Chao's the best.

00:23:50.640 This book and Captain Fennell, who I revere, the great naval intelligence officer who gave up his career by going to the Naval Academy and telling the people back, I think in 14 or 15, that the CCP was going to win a kinetic war against us in the South China Sea.

00:24:05.640 How do people get this book?

00:24:07.640 This is when Fennell tells it.

00:24:09.640 Captain Fennell, who is James Fennell, says, Understanding the China Threat by Lin Chao and Dr. Bradworth is the most important book I have ever read about the existential threat from the People's Republic of China.

00:24:21.640 That's a pretty good, that's a pretty good poll quote.

00:24:24.640 It is, and we're very grateful for it and all the support that we've had for the book.

00:24:29.640 It's a very significant work because we do document how the CCP operates really from its inception through the time when it was out of power, then when it came into power in 1949.

00:24:42.640 And fundamental takeaways there are that it's always targeted the United States.

00:24:47.640 Always.

00:24:48.640 And that hasn't wavered.

00:24:49.640 And we fought kinetic wars with the Chinese Communist Party before in Korea, in Vietnam, where they were manning anti-aircraft artillery sites and other ways of undermining our effort to protect South Vietnam.

00:25:03.640 So the war has really, obviously, we need to recognize, as you've noted so often, Steve, that there's an ideological element, an economic element, diplomatic, military.

00:25:14.640 It's an all-azimuth war that we're fighting against the CCP.

00:25:18.640 And we've been slow off the mark.

00:25:20.640 And part of the reason why we've been slow off the mark is because of elite capture.

00:25:24.640 You'll recall, Steve, Clinton campaign, Clinton-Gore campaign in 92 excoriated Bush for coddling dictators from Baghdad to Beijing, as they put it, right?

00:25:35.640 So for two years, the Clinton administration withheld most favored nation status.

00:25:40.640 They linked that to renewal of human rights in China to MNF.

00:25:45.640 Then they reversed it.

00:25:47.640 Until they were captured by bags of cash, right?

00:25:49.640 And then they reversed it.

00:25:51.640 And then they put on the WTO path and then the horse was out of the barn by that point.

00:25:57.640 So that was a very significant failing that we had in the 1990s as well.

00:26:01.640 It's a long and assorted history of mistakes that we've made.

00:26:05.640 It's going to get more sorted because it's all going to come now front and center.

00:26:09.640 It's all going to come front and center with both the perversion of Hunter Biden and the compromise of the Biden crime family.

00:26:15.640 And you're going to see where money's gone all over.

00:26:18.640 And the performative stuff that Garland and DOJ and even under Barr, this perform, they roll up a couple of Chinese professors or a couple of grundoons, apparatchiks, mid-level people.

00:26:27.640 No, the corruption and money is, as Bradley Thayer says, it's totally complete elite capture of Wall Street, of global corporations, of our universities, right?

00:26:38.640 And our political, and by the way, it's Republican and Democrat.

00:26:41.640 When this thing starts, when they scab, the pus underneath this scab is nasty.

00:26:47.640 And it's both parties.

00:26:48.640 It's the uniparty.

00:26:49.640 It's not just going to be the Biden crime family, although they'll be front and center, given as Sam Faddis says, their controlled assets.

00:26:57.640 What social media, how do they get the book and where do they go to follow you, Dr. Thayer?

00:27:01.640 Well, they can get the book at Amazon or they can get it from Rutledge, the publisher.

00:27:05.640 And you can follow me at Center for Security Policy, where I'm the director of the China program there, or at Truth and Getter at Bradley Thayer.

00:27:15.640 We got to get Thayer onto the, we got to get him onto this committee, the China, the Joint China Task Force Committee, right?

00:27:22.640 Select committee.

00:27:23.640 It's got to be, it's got to be hammer time.

00:27:24.640 I guess Gallagher is going to lead it.

00:27:26.640 Dr. Thayer, thank you for coming in today.

00:27:27.640 Appreciate it.

00:27:28.640 Thank you for dropping off these books.

00:27:30.640 There'll be now stocking stuffers for everybody who comes into the war room.

00:27:33.640 Thank you so much, Dr. Bradley Thayer.

00:27:34.640 Thank you, Steve.

00:27:35.640 Sure.

00:27:36.640 Okay.

00:27:37.640 But Dr. Thayer, all roads lead back to Beijing.

00:27:39.640 Remember, Nixon, the grand strategist, the enemy of my enemy is my friend.

00:27:44.640 It was Nixon and Kissinger that flipped the CCP to help us take down the Soviet empire, right? 0.67

00:27:52.640 Now they're unchained.

00:27:55.640 They're unchained because they bribed the American establishment.

00:27:58.640 Monica Crowley is going to put it all in perspective, particularly President Nixon.

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00:30:20.640 Uh, Monica Crowley, uh, Monica, our audience is going to be seeing a lot more of you because you're the person that can connect all the dots.

00:30:28.640 When you see this thing on Twitter, well, let's, first off, nobody was tougher or savvier than Dick Nixon.

00:30:34.640 We knew we had a, not just a massive problem in Vietnam and Southeast Asia, but that was not, he understood that the Chinese and the Vietnam, the Vietnamese were not, let's say kissing cousins.

00:30:45.640 Okay.

00:30:46.640 They did not like each other a lot.

00:30:48.640 Um, it was the Soviet union.

00:30:50.640 He had to take down, had to lay the predicate for Nixon to come for Reagan later to come in and take down the evil empire.

00:30:56.640 That predicate was breaking up the international communist partnership on the Eurasian landmass.

00:31:01.640 What Biden has now forced back together.

00:31:04.640 Right.

00:31:05.640 Unbelievable.

00:31:06.640 After we spent the 20th century, you know, disuniting these people, uh, are these two regimes, not the people, the people, the Lao Bai Zhang and the Russian people don't come any better than those two. 0.90

00:31:16.640 It's the leadership that has been awful and criminals.

00:31:19.640 Uh, tell me about Nixon and his thoughts about the Chinese and dealing with the CCP.

00:31:23.640 Thank you so much for having me, Steve.

00:31:26.640 It's always great to talk to you and to be back.

00:31:28.640 Um, thank you for the questions.

00:31:30.640 Really big question.

00:31:31.640 And I actually wrote my PhD dissertation.

00:31:34.640 About the United States is handling of the people's Republic of China in two eras with the advent of the CCP takeover in 1949, 1950.

00:31:45.640 And then fast forward 20, 25 years to the Nixon Kissinger handling of it.

00:31:51.640 And what I found in all of my research is that when the CCP was taking control of China, the Truman administration looked at it and said, we cannot take on two monstrous communist entities.

00:32:07.640 The priority is the Soviet Union. 0.90

00:32:09.640 So what we're going to do here in 1949 is back off from China for a while.

00:32:14.640 We're not going to try to intervene.

00:32:16.640 We're not going to try to fight two wars.

00:32:18.640 We're going to deal with the Soviet Union and the Eastern Bloc and let China sort itself out. 0.95

00:32:23.640 Well, then there was the China, the Sino Soviet split in 1950.

00:32:28.640 And then there were some sort of movement of the Soviets and the Chinese starting to look at each other again with an appealing eye.

00:32:37.640 Nixon comes in.

00:32:38.640 He realizes that America's resources are now so strained because of the war in Vietnam that he is going to do two things because he cannot take on both the Soviet Union and China aggressively. 0.58

00:32:52.640 Given the war in Vietnam and the political and economic constraints on the country at the time, he's going to do two things.

00:33:00.640 He's going to do detente with the Soviet Union, a warming, if you will, of relations with them. 0.78

00:33:05.640 And he's going to open the door to China. 0.92

00:33:08.640 And, yes, the Vietnam War was a critical component of it, but it was part of a much bigger geopolitical strategy.

00:33:16.640 It was to use China as a strategic counterweight against growing Soviet power in the late 60s, early 70s.

00:33:25.640 Steve, the Soviet Union was expanding their nuclear arsenal, both conventional and otherwise.

00:33:31.640 And the United States simply couldn't match because we were bogged down in Vietnam.

00:33:36.640 So Nixon took a longer term view of China when he did what he did.

00:33:42.640 But Nixon was nothing if not adaptable.

00:33:45.640 And I was with him on his very last trip to China.

00:33:48.640 I believe it was 1992 or 1993.

00:33:51.640 We went to China.

00:33:53.640 This was just a couple of years after Tiananmen Square.

00:33:56.640 And Richard Nixon and maybe Henry Kissinger, Steve, were the only two people on the face of the earth who could lay into the CCP with the brutal truth and have them just sit there and take it.

00:34:11.640 And at that time, the Chinese were trying to get integrated into the global economic system.

00:34:17.640 We know now the result of that, but they were trying desperately to get admittance to the World Trade Organization and so on.

00:34:25.640 And Nixon looked at them and said, if you want me to try to help you get into that global economic system, you have to stop killing your people.

00:34:33.640 Now, he again was really the only one who could say this to them and have them sit there and take it without any pushback or any kind of lies or defensive mechanisms.

00:34:46.640 But, you know, we saw what has happened over the last 30 years since he had that conversation.

00:34:52.640 And the question I get most often, Steve, is what would Nixon think right now?

00:34:57.640 He would have recognized a long time ago that the CCP is our greatest enemy.

00:35:01.640 And I want to share one thing that he told me about the Soviets versus the Chinese.

00:35:06.640 He said that in dealing with the Soviets, obviously they were liars and obviously they were our main competitors at the time. 0.86

00:35:15.640 But he said they were very emotional.

00:35:18.640 So you'd be negotiating with them and they would be lying through their teeth.

00:35:22.640 But they drank vodka and they were slamming the tables.

00:35:25.640 He said the CCP had a much longer time frame for world domination.

00:35:30.640 Millennia, because the Chinese culture is based in millennia.

00:35:34.640 And he said they were inscrutable.

00:35:37.640 You never knew what they were thinking.

00:35:40.640 They were not emotional at all.

00:35:42.640 And they would lie to your face in a very even keeled way, the exact opposite of the Soviets. 0.80

00:35:48.640 So if Nixon were around today, he would consider the CCP our number one adversary.

00:35:54.640 And he would be advising aggressive action across the board.

00:35:58.640 Yeah.

00:35:59.640 When you start reading the emails with Hunter Biden, you'll see this.

00:36:01.640 They have a they have a very well thought through.

00:36:04.640 CCP has a very well thought through plan.

00:36:07.640 It was in it was in that conversation.

00:36:08.640 Remember when they first there with Mao Zedong, when they kind of went over early, when the plane land to see him.

00:36:14.640 And in the chilling lie, the conversation drags and they ask Kishner, what is Kishner asking him as a conversation starter?

00:36:21.640 You know, what's your thoughts since you're revolutionaries?

00:36:23.640 What's your thoughts on the French Revolution?

00:36:25.640 And showing light looks at him and says too early to tell.

00:36:28.640 Right.

00:36:29.640 They they take the law.

00:36:30.640 They take the long view on things.

00:36:32.640 Too early to tell.

00:36:34.640 And by the way, we're getting the French Revolution every day here.

00:36:37.640 That's what the culture.

00:36:38.640 That's what the the cultural revolution was.

00:36:40.640 The Red Guards.

00:36:41.640 I want to go to the you've seen this playbook before.

00:36:47.640 Also, talk about the book Silent Coup, your relationship with Nixon and particularly the fact that the FBI came after Richard Nixon.

00:36:54.640 The FBI in the federal court system has been Jeff Shepard explaining his book.

00:36:58.640 Silent Coup explained in their book.

00:37:00.640 It's the FBI DOJ.

00:37:02.640 The federal courts is the same people surrounding Donald Trump and the same people that took him out in in 2020 and they took him out.

00:37:10.640 This is all going to go to that point, ladies and gentlemen.

00:37:14.640 Write it down.

00:37:15.640 Take your number two pencil out and write that down.

00:37:18.640 Monica Crowley.

00:37:19.640 Yes.

00:37:20.640 It's a really important question, Steve, because it puts all of this into context.

00:37:25.640 So for 50 years, we now have a 50 year arc from Richard Nixon through Donald Trump of the deep state, the weaponization of our own government against us.

00:37:37.640 But when you look at their key targets beginning with Richard Nixon, these are all individuals who are not just conservatives or not just populists, but they're individuals who represent America first and therefore pose an existential threat to them and their absolute grip on power.

00:37:59.640 Remember, in this country, the real power does not lie with the White House or on Capitol Hill or in the courts.

00:38:06.640 The real power is the shadow government known as the deep state and permanent bureaucracy.

00:38:12.640 And then they've got their wingmen in the press.

00:38:15.640 So Richard Nixon was their very first target.

00:38:19.640 Why?

00:38:20.640 Because in Richard Nixon's second term, which he was not allowed to complete, just as Donald Trump was denied a second term.

00:38:28.640 Ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, hang on, hang on.

00:38:31.640 Not able to complete after a stunning landslide victory.

00:38:36.640 Let's always remember that.

00:38:38.640 A blowout landslide.

00:38:40.640 The American people rendered their judgment.

00:38:42.640 OK, they rendered their judgment.

00:38:44.640 Nixon won a blowout.

00:38:46.640 His second term was a blowout landslide.

00:38:48.640 Was it not Monica Crowley?

00:38:50.640 Yes, it was a stunning.

00:38:53.640 And to that point, Richard Nixon had garnered more votes for president than any other candidate in the history of the country, period.

00:39:02.640 So Richard Nixon was he was going to do something really important, Steve.

00:39:06.640 One of his closest advisers was actually a Democrat.

00:39:10.640 It was Daniel Patrick Moynihan, Democrat senator from the state of New York.

00:39:15.640 And Moynihan was an old school liberal.

00:39:18.640 But Moynihan used to say that every 20 years, every generation or so, the entire executive branch needed to be uprooted.

00:39:29.640 Root and branch just pulled up and reformed.

00:39:33.640 And we did it after World War Two.

00:39:36.640 And then in the 1960s, they were going to do it and it never came to pass.

00:39:42.640 So when Nixon was president, it was long past time for a major reform reformation of the executive branch.

00:39:49.640 They knew that.

00:39:51.640 Moynihan's warning was, look, if you let this let all of these people and these policies and these approaches get entrenched, you'll never be able to uproot it.

00:40:02.640 And the corruption will run so deep.

00:40:05.640 And Nixon understood that.

00:40:07.640 And so in his second term, he was going to do exactly that.

00:40:10.640 He was going to pull up the National Security Council.

00:40:13.640 He was going to pull up the CIA, all of the intel agencies.

00:40:17.640 He was going to pull up the permanent bureaucracy and do a major reform.

00:40:23.640 They could not allow him to do that.

00:40:25.640 So, again, I'm not excusing Nixon's behavior in Wargate.

00:40:29.640 The FBI set him up.

00:40:32.640 And one last thing.

00:40:33.640 The CIA also played a significant role in this, because keep in mind that four out of the seven Watergate burglars were in the employ of the CIA.

00:40:45.640 The other two, McCord and Liddy, I guess McCord both ways.

00:40:54.640 He was CIA and FBI, but Liddy, I mean, so five, six of the seven, I think, were either FBI, just a random, no coincidence, were either FBI or CIA operatives or agents.

00:41:06.640 Yeah.

00:41:07.640 Just saying.

00:41:08.640 Monica, it's incredible.

00:41:10.640 And only you can tell the story.

00:41:11.640 We're going to spend a lot more time on this.

00:41:13.640 Monica, how do people get to you on social media and follow your writings and your podcast?

00:41:18.640 Thank you so much.

00:41:19.640 It's the Monica Crowley podcast.

00:41:21.640 I do it three days a week, Monday, Wednesday, Friday.

00:41:24.640 You can get it wherever you get your podcasts.

00:41:26.640 So, Apple, Google, Spotify, Stitcher.

00:41:29.640 There it is.

00:41:30.640 Today, I'm going to have the great Devin Nunes on to talk about this, the deep state revelations from the Twitter files, because he was really the original guy on the Intel committee a couple of years back exposing all of this.

00:41:43.640 And he took a lot of heat for exposing the truth.

00:41:45.640 So, Nunes will be with me today.

00:41:47.640 I'm on Twitter and Truth Social.

00:41:50.640 I am at Monica Crowley.

00:41:52.640 And on Instagram, I am at Monica Crowley underscore.

00:41:56.640 Monica Crowley, thank you very much.

00:41:59.640 Appreciate you.

00:42:00.640 Appreciate you coming on.

00:42:02.640 Always a pleasure.

00:42:03.640 Great insights of Daniel Patrick Monaghan.

00:42:04.640 By the way, Nixon's the first to admit, and Monaghan and those guys will tell you, he wasn't going to take on the debate.

00:42:09.640 He wasn't going to take on the great society.

00:42:11.640 He says, I got to pick my I got to pick my shots here.

00:42:14.640 I can't take on the great society.

00:42:15.640 It's you know, it's out of control.

00:42:17.640 It's going to get worse.

00:42:18.640 But I got to do for the good of the country, the national security aspect of it.

00:42:21.640 People have to make trade offs.

00:42:23.640 OK, short break.

00:42:25.640 We got Darren Beattie.

00:42:26.640 He's got one pom pom up, maybe another pom pom off the floor.

00:42:30.640 We'll talk all about it.

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00:44:41.640 No, no, no conversation about Musk today.

00:44:43.640 Well, I mean, I feel so.

00:44:44.640 You guys have already done it.

00:44:45.640 No, we haven't.

00:44:46.640 No, no, no, no.

00:44:47.640 I just gotta say, to be honest.

00:44:48.640 We gotta judge not to.

00:44:49.640 You know, to be honest with you, when-

00:44:50.640 Not to bring us into more like-

00:44:51.640 When he's so obviously- 0.85

00:44:54.640 Gross.

00:44:55.640 Playing into the sort of, he's doing like this shock opera routine. 0.76

00:44:59.640 You know, like his thing on Anthony Fauci.

00:45:03.640 Again.

00:45:04.640 It's dangerous.

00:45:05.640 Again, I just.

00:45:06.640 It is. 1.00

00:45:07.640 It's stupid. 1.00

00:45:08.640 It's dangerous if you have a lot of money in Tesla. 1.00

00:45:12.640 It's stupid otherwise. 0.99

00:45:13.640 All of this sort of Twitter infighting. 0.99

00:45:15.640 Again, Andrew.

00:45:16.640 Okay, you brought him up.

00:45:17.640 So I'll just say.

00:45:18.640 Okay.

00:45:19.640 Okay.

00:45:20.640 Here's here.

00:45:21.640 It goes on.

00:45:22.640 They're so freaked out about what he did with, with Fauci and Wu Han and the prosecution

00:45:28.640 and all of it.

00:45:29.640 I'm going to bring in Darren Beattie.

00:45:30.640 Thanks for carving out some time.

00:45:31.640 Darren, put it in perspective for us, sir.

00:45:33.640 Because these are monumental occurrences over the last 72 hours.

00:45:37.640 No, it really is quite something.

00:45:40.640 The leaks are great.

00:45:41.640 Elon's doing great.

00:45:43.640 You know, there remains a question.

00:45:46.640 Okay.

00:45:47.640 He got a crime scene.

00:45:48.640 What crimes, if any, will remain undisclosed?

00:45:51.640 That's always a question when he's not releasing all the files and he may end up doing so,

00:45:57.640 but the advantage of doing it in this sort of serialized, tranche by tranche fashion,

00:46:04.640 which has its downsides.

00:46:05.640 It's a little bit annoying, but it has an upside that Mike Cernovich actually pointed out.

00:46:11.640 And I thought it was very insightful.

00:46:13.640 And the people who are actually guilty of these crimes, the criminals, are kept on their toes in a state of just complete anxiety, wondering if they're going to be the subject of the next tranche.

00:46:27.640 And obviously there's big tranche that remains for COVID, everything in relation to COVID,

00:46:33.640 Fauci, big pharma companies.

00:46:36.640 And who knows to what extent the full truth of that will be revealed.

00:46:41.640 But the anticipation of that is a really kind of, I think, effective mechanism of psychological warfare.

00:46:49.640 And you see the anxiety expressed through the utterances of Joe Scarborough.

00:46:55.640 But for all he knows, there's going to be a file on what happened with his intern.

00:47:02.640 Let's talk about Brennan and those guys.

00:47:04.640 Brennan's coming out and saying, oh, you're not a man of honor.

00:47:07.640 You're low class, Tony Fauci.

00:47:10.640 The 51 are already coming to the defense of Fauci.

00:47:13.640 So the whole, look, they're not laughing it off.

00:47:16.640 They're very, very nervous.

00:47:18.640 And it's not just, Twitter just gives you the opening to then get into the deep investigation of how the administrative state,

00:47:25.640 the administrative state rolled on Trump.

00:47:28.640 They rolled on Trump.

00:47:29.640 They rolled on him.

00:47:31.640 Remember, the key things right here are not even, it's not even yet.

00:47:35.640 We're not even to the Garland Biden phase of it.

00:47:37.640 We're all to the Trump era and what happened at that time with Biden's compromise and capture by the Chinese Communist Party monetarily, his son's perversions, right?

00:47:49.640 A lot of it by the Chinese Communist Party and backed up by the Chinese Communist Party.

00:47:54.640 The other things with the Wuhan lab and all of it, it's all coming out as the beginning of investigations.

00:48:00.640 Is that, tell me, is that your perspective on this?

00:48:03.640 Because I say all the Twitter executives, yeah, that's going to be important, but they're just part of a massive intelligence operation by the national security apparatus.

00:48:14.640 Darren Beattie.

00:48:15.640 Well, absolutely.

00:48:16.640 And again, this is another big question mark.

00:48:19.640 I don't know how, you know, if it's good.

00:48:22.640 Elon's giving us the truth, but we don't know if it's the full truth.

00:48:26.640 And I'd love to know the full extent of federal communications with Twitter through sort of back channels.

00:48:34.640 I want to know whether the Atlantic Council, NATO's sort of NGO and cutout, whether they were pressuring.

00:48:41.640 And if so, how much?

00:48:43.640 There's so much we need to learn.

00:48:45.640 As for the Fauci thing, I mean, I hope he gets it completely.

00:48:51.640 I hope the full files on him are out.

00:48:54.640 He's one of the great villains of the century.

00:48:57.640 COVID is one of the biggest scams and crimes of the century.

00:49:01.640 And he's the chief criminal because, you know, there are a lot of people who are criminals simply by virtue of going with the trends, going with the movement.

00:49:10.640 But here's someone who actually had influence.

00:49:12.640 He could have gone either way.

00:49:14.640 But based on his recommendations, we really set through a policy course that was perhaps irreversibly destructive in many ways to our country in so many dimensions that we haven't even fully appreciated.

00:49:27.640 So I think he's actually he's underappreciated as one of the greatest criminals in American history and should be treated accordingly.

00:49:36.640 Revolvers, we've got a couple of minutes, revolvers reporting of this and how you guys are rolling on this.

00:49:43.640 As he's saying now, it's a crime scene.

00:49:46.640 You've got to prosecute.

00:49:47.640 This is this is Elon.

00:49:48.640 It's I bought a crime scene.

00:49:50.640 It is.

00:49:51.640 You've got to prosecute Fauci.

00:49:54.640 We need more signal, less noise over the mainstream media.

00:49:57.640 Talk to me about Revolvers coverage of this really this monumental story about the global public square.

00:50:05.640 Well, you know, we've covered a lot of dimensions of it.

00:50:08.640 But one recent thing that I think is worth pointing out.

00:50:11.640 Remember, you always want a name and a face to tell the story of a more general problem.

00:50:17.640 And about a week ago, we published a piece on the former Apple head of trust and safety, the former chief censor of Apple.

00:50:25.640 And the fact that she was basically the right hand woman to Eric Holder, the most aggressively partisan member of the Obama administration.

00:50:36.640 And just this morning, we published a piece on Yul Roth, who was the chief censor of Twitter, asking, well, who is this guy?

00:50:44.640 This guy empowered to be the number one censor at the world's most important speech and communications platform.

00:50:53.640 And it's really astonishing to look at some of his history. 0.97

00:50:56.640 It's ridiculous. 0.99

00:50:57.640 He's he wrote his Ph.D. on a gay meeting app. 0.99

00:51:04.640 He wrote his entire dissertation on a gay meeting app.

00:51:08.640 And, you know, it's I'm not here to judge lifestyles.

00:51:11.640 But what's what's interesting about this is that he goes into detail in this dissertation, which unfortunately we had to look through in order to do the piece.

00:51:20.640 But he celebrates all of these ways that people on this gay dating platform circumvent the terms of service, you know, celebrating people bending the rules in order to maximize free speech on that platform, which is very ironic. 0.67

00:51:36.640 You look at how he's actually conducted himself as the chief censor on the other side where he was bending rules in order to censor people on the right.

00:51:46.640 He's got a difference between playtime and work time.

00:51:50.640 So, Darren, we're going to put up everything, all your stuff on the other side.

00:51:55.640 I know you've got to bounce.

00:51:56.640 Darren Beattie, Revolver.

00:51:57.640 We're going to get everybody to their site today into a social media.

00:52:01.640 Darren Beattie, thank you very much.

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Bannon's War Room - December 12, 2022

Episode 2366： Understanding The Threat Of China; Elon Going Full WarRoom

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