On today's show, we have a special guest on the show to talk about a new report from Red State on the amount of money the Republican National Committee (RNC) spends on their own parties and the amount they give to the wealthy.
00:05:16.000Well, I read the story late last night. I just got off a plane.
00:05:19.000I've been running around on my chair race. And let me tell you something.
00:05:24.000First, some of these things do not surprise me, unfortunately, because we actually had a contested race for treasurer of the RNC two years ago.
00:05:32.000In the course of that, one of the candidates, the challenger candidate, pointed out some of these things, mainly excessive staff spending on alcohol and, you know, frivolous things that don't help us win elections.
00:05:43.000You know, most of us in the private sector buy our own drinks if we drink.
00:05:48.000And and and so that's the starting point of this.
00:05:51.000But some of the things I saw on there shocked me.
00:05:53.000I had no idea that we're spending 17 million dollars plus on donor gifts.
00:06:47.000And so I am just stunned at the number of people at the RNC who are, you know, frankly, I think ripping off the donors or at a minimum showing contempt for big and small donors.
00:06:57.000But more importantly, members of the RNC have known about this.
00:07:00.000I did. I voted for change at the RNC two years ago, and I'm urging change across the board at the RNC this time around.
00:07:06.000But a lot of members are just very happy in their sinecures of, oh, I'm the chair of this committee, I'm the chair of that committee.
00:07:12.000Or they've been reminded Rana transferred X amount of dollars to our state over the last few years.
00:07:16.000And so we owe her a debt of gratitude.
00:07:19.000This is not a person's particular piggy bank.
00:07:58.000So I'm looking forward to hearing more.
00:08:01.000Is it the here's the thing still the bulk of their when they talk about donors, I know they got people to give large sums, but those donors are also wealthy.
00:08:48.000When we have donor retreats, the donors pay their own way.
00:08:51.000OK, like if I go to a donor retreat to help the RNC with fundraising on legal issues, which I've done numerous times at my own expense, I go and I pay for it.
00:09:18.000You're saying that they pick out one from the Salamander, which, by the way, is owned by the is founded by the wife of, I think, Robert Johnson, the founder of BET, who are some of the biggest supporters of the Democratic Party.
00:09:30.000I think I might be wrong there, but I think they're big supporters of the Democratic Party.
00:09:35.000They highlight this one in Middleburg at Salamander.
00:09:38.000But you're saying those are not donor retreats, that that's just for the staff?
00:09:43.000I mean, donor retreats are to raise money.
00:09:45.000And and of course, you have to spend money to raise money.
00:09:48.000That's a whole separate issue of what our overhead is for raising money.
00:09:51.000I've been told by people who are familiar with the facts that our overheads for raising money at these big donor events is like 40 percent, which is obscene.
00:10:00.000You know, we have friends at Turning Point USA, which raises, you know, 100 million dollars.
00:10:06.000They raise it with a about less than maybe a fifth of that cost of overhead.
00:10:10.000So I'm not sure who is getting rich off of these events, but it sure isn't electing Republicans.
00:10:15.000But the but but if you read this story, it's talking about like a Raiders box for the staff.
00:10:22.000It's talking about a hundred thousand dollar plus retreat for the staff where we where we flew people on their plus one in first class to this retreat.
00:11:07.000Every single penny that we raise should be used to the greatest extent possible towards the goal, making this country greater, electing sound constitutional conservatives with fines to change the degradation of our country.
00:11:22.000That's not what this money is being used for.
00:11:24.000And every single penny of it used for that, not for fancy coffee and shots.
00:11:28.000What is the state party, the three people per state?
00:12:03.000Or is this going to be a shock to them?
00:12:05.000So some of the story was a shock to me.
00:12:08.000Actually, most of the story was a shock to me. I couldn't believe it.
00:12:11.000Some of these things are are going to be a shock to almost all the members.
00:12:17.000I'm going to give them the benefit of the doubt.
00:12:19.000There are very few members of the RNC who think this is OK.
00:12:22.000I hope we'll find out in coming days and weeks.
00:12:25.000However, the fact that some of this stuff was happening, mainly on the excessive spending on the staff side, was pointed out two years ago in the chair race.
00:12:34.000And, you know, our chair aggressively with the votes for the treasurer who she brought on when she came, became the chair of the RNC, Ron Kaufman from Massachusetts.
00:12:45.000And Ron had worked on Mitt Romney's campaign for governor there.
00:12:49.000And so we hear about that every few minutes.
00:12:51.000And so, you know, that combination has allowed virtually no transparency in our finances.
00:12:58.000And if you even ask members of the finance committee about some of these things, they have no idea.
00:13:03.000I mean, the power and the spending are very closely held at the very top.
00:13:07.000Members who I saw a line in the story, it would be from one of my other colleagues.
00:13:11.000Members who ask questions, you know, are marginalized.
00:13:14.000I've actually referred referred to this in this race last week.
00:13:20.000I'm shocked, shocked to hear that there's gambling going on in the establishment.
00:13:23.000You know, people, people clutch their pearls in horror that anybody would promise anybody anything like a committee appointment or chairmanship or, you know, support for a particular program in their state in exchange for their support.
00:13:36.000That's exactly what happens in politics.
00:16:25.000But I got Lindell who's also running for sure of the RNC.
00:16:29.000But I want to, Dave Bratt, before I bring up Mike, you've got a connection.
00:16:33.000Connect some dots here between what you've seen about the spending and the problem we have here in our nation's capital as we throw down on these huge, massive fights that are taking place over the next couple of days.
00:17:13.000It's the grassroots versus the establishment over and over and over.
00:17:19.000The grassroots is treated to, you know, 7%, 8% inflation rates, huge indebtedness, near sovereign debt crises, and the list of the horribles.
00:17:33.000And the elites are treated to airplane rides and caviar, et cetera, right?
00:17:37.000So there's just this total disconnect up at the leadership of the RNC, of the leadership in Congress on both sides.
00:17:44.000And it's just symbolic of the entire budget process at the federal level, too, which is, you know, it's not just a budget.
00:17:51.000You're funding the administrative state.
00:17:53.000So anyone that follows this show, you're funding wars abroad to the tunes of $100 billion this year with a potential trillion-dollar state build back.
00:18:05.000You're funding the radicalization of our Defense Department while the senators who are trying to pass this huge budget bill, $1.5 trillion, with the biggest deficit ever reported a couple days ago.
00:18:22.000And they're, you know, bringing in all the usual tricks right before Christmas.
00:18:27.000And the defense secretary comes out and says, this is a matter of national security.
00:18:31.000And they'll send letters back to your constituents if you don't vote for it.
00:18:36.000And then, you know, even McCarthy and leadership, I hate to say this, but they did the same thing to us Republicans.
00:18:43.000They treated us to these same budget tricks when Paul Ryan was the head of the ship and arranged these late votes before Christmas and did the same thing to us.
00:18:52.000And I wouldn't vote yes for trillion-dollar deficits.
00:18:56.000And so, you know, I paid the price for that in terms of the usual, no funding for elections, no committee, prime committee assignments, et cetera.
00:19:05.000But I sleep well at night on that front.
00:19:21.000Yeah, there's no tone of austerity or embarrassment at, you know, living a life of luxury when the middle class and the poor are getting pummeled right now.
00:19:36.000And the pummeling is just beginning, right?
00:19:38.000The Fed, I think, is still going to keep jacking up rates to end the Greenspan put, and they're going to drive us into a mild to medium recession.
00:19:47.000And so the hardship, of course, always falls on the poor.
00:19:51.000I hope Powell's doing the right thing here, but we'll see.
00:20:15.000You know, when I raise any time, you know, over the past two years when I've had my Lindell legal offense fund, I'll tell you what, every dollar goes to help the country.
00:20:27.000It doesn't go for private jets or go for flowers or candles.
00:20:31.000But one of the things I was watching, Harmeet, what she brought up, 40% of the money, it costs 40% to raise money at donor events and stuff, the overhead of 40%.
00:20:45.000So, if you have a dollar, 60 or 40 cents is going to the overhead, that is, I'm telling you, I have never heard of such a thing.
00:20:54.000Is the overhead at MyPillow 40%, is MyPillow 40%?
00:21:01.000I couldn't even wrap my head around that.
00:21:04.000I go, if I'm a donor, I am just, you know, you asked her if it was a shock to the 168.
00:21:10.000I can't imagine the shock to the donors that woke up this morning to this story.
00:21:15.000And this is, you know, this is why I'm running, this is my wheelhouse.
00:21:18.000So, you know, we go, once we get the RNC righted, the ship righted, the holes filled, now you can go to a donor and say, you know what, your money, every possible dime is going to go to help save the country and help get these Republicans elected.
00:21:33.00040% of a donor gives $100,000, $40,000 would go to overhead.
00:21:40.000I mean, how much are they paying these guys to go out and solicit money from these guys?
00:21:59.000I mean, I don't think people know, like right now, so much of the legal stuff is coming out of, I mean, just say it.
00:22:10.000You're underwriting with your legal fund.
00:22:13.000Many of these fights are going around in the country.
00:22:15.000I mean, you're putting money out all the time.
00:22:18.000People behind the scenes know that Lindell's sitting there and his legal fund and these other things you've got are paying for this.
00:22:24.000How do you feel seeing the use of proceeds go for some of these things when you're, you know, you're doing what you would argue the RNC should be doing in some of these fights?
00:23:16.000I mean, this is, you know, when I asked people, when I asked 168, why would Ronna even run if she loves her country and you failed, failed and failed?
00:24:00.000I have, I have phone calls all day with them.
00:24:02.000And, uh, I will be, I'll be saying to them, were you aware that it costs 40% to, to, uh, go out and, and, uh, uh, camp or camp or get money to solicit money from donors.
00:24:15.000I said, were you aware of that, that the, that where it's costing 40%.
00:24:19.000I bet most of them aren't aware of that.
00:24:21.000And I'll say, you know what, that's my wheelhouse.
00:24:24.000If I'm going to, we're going to fix this.
00:24:26.000You got to know that you got to bake to your donor.
00:24:30.000You got to be able to look your donor in the eye and say, Hey, every dime or every, every dime possible, you know, or maybe you just open, say it's going to cost 5% overhead to by the time we get your money to the front lines where it's needed.
00:24:43.000But I'll tell you what, those front lines where it's needed, we're going to improve on each and every one, whether it's ads, whether it's on the ground, whether it's, whether it's getting involved in any lawsuits that have any bearing on, on, uh, saving our country.
00:24:58.000Every single dime spent will be completely transparent.
00:25:02.000It sounds to me like everybody's a little surprised that these were hid from, from, uh, the members and from the donors.
00:25:08.000These expenses, uh, you know, it's bad enough that you're spending the money in the wrong places that, that don't manifest to, um, return on the investment.
00:25:19.000But when you're taking money and you're completely spending it over here, we'll just say frivolously for now, we won't say, um, anything was done wrong.
00:25:27.000It was absolutely morally wrong, but that will all stop immediately.
00:25:31.000And the, and you, uh, this isn't going to take long either.
00:25:36.000Um, I'm not, I will never, Steve, I wouldn't be able to go to a donor and look them in the eye and collect $1 until this thing was right and say, here's where your money's going to go now.
00:25:46.000And here's what, and here's what's going to cost the overhead to take your money out there.
00:25:51.000I would never donate anything where I know you have a 40% overhead.
00:25:55.000That's just going to get flushed down the drain.
00:25:57.000I it's, I can't even wrap my head around this right now.
00:26:00.000I think, I still think the ball come from little donors.
00:26:04.000What do you say to the little guys, the bulk of the war room audience, the people that give you 50 to a hundred bucks.
00:26:42.000Instead of, instead of they see loss, loss, loss.
00:26:46.000And they, and now that something like this comes out, you know, right now, this makes it even more critical that we have to have change.
00:26:54.000Rana has to go, or, you know what the RNC, I mean, this is the, the micro donors, the macro donors, how are they going to get by this Steve?
00:27:02.000I mean, I don't know how they could even think that it was bad enough before going, you failed, but now they find that during these failures, you're spending all this money.
00:27:44.000We're going to talk about, uh, your involvement and saving your country.
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00:30:25.000We remember we started talking about these before Thanksgiving, about the lame duck, what was going to happen right after the, uh, right after the election.
00:31:48.000They are in a lame duck with a Congress has already been voted out in a new direction for the country.
00:31:55.000They are trying to do things that are structurally so massive that can't be done with full debate.
00:32:02.000They can't be done to bring the country together to actually argue it out in horse trade and have compromise and maybe say, okay, we could do this or have total opposition of one side or the other.
00:32:13.000So this is just trying to, and Kevin McCarthy used our terms, jamming it through, trying to jam people up.
00:33:40.000I think Town Hall had a great article about the Tillis bill late last night that Amnesty bill looks like it's dead.
00:33:46.000Because to do Amnesty right now with the invasion of the southern border, what's happened in El Paso would be, it'd be the end of the country immediately.
00:33:52.000You would have 100 million people up here forthwith.
00:33:56.000I think Amnesty, and that's because of your calls and your pressure.
00:34:02.000The omnibus, the omnibus is we finally, McCarthy has finally, as you could tell, we started to show that that's not exactly a full throated, he didn't exactly go war room on him, right?
00:34:13.000But for right now, that's about as much as you can do.
00:34:17.000This omnibus has two, the next two elements, the electoral count act.
00:35:13.000If I can pull up the, the article from the Hill and this Hill article is about McCarthy coming out yesterday, upset McConnell in the worst way in the, in the, in the, in the inner workings of the Senate, because man, McCarthy came out and made our job so much harder.
00:46:49.000And the reason we didn't win more is because the Republican establishment and these people that call themselves Republicans that don't back you on the cultural issues and don't back you on going after the administrative state to get to the bottom of all this.
00:47:01.000They just want their tax cuts and they want their deregulation.
00:47:04.000They want their own fat lives to be fatter.
00:51:49.000We've got Natalie Winters and Naomi Wolf, a blockbuster story coming out about a report done by the House Republicans on the Wuhan lab, the COVID, CCP COVID virus.
00:52:01.000This is all going to flow into exactly what Ron DeSantis is doing in Florida.
00:52:05.000He's throwing down hard on big pharma.
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