Bannon's War Room - Episode 2376： The Egregious Spending By The RNC

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00:00:43.780 War Room. Here's your host, Stephen K. Vance.

00:00:48.600 Thursday, 15 December, in the year of our Lord, 2022.

00:00:52.500 Welcome back. You're here for the second hour of the morning edition of War Room.

00:00:56.540 I really want to thank, we have Jennifer Von Lahr from Red State, an incredible piece put out overnight.

00:01:05.280 It looked like it took a ton of research to get here.

00:01:07.500 Jennifer, thank you so much for joining us.

00:01:11.440 Just walk us through.

00:01:12.940 We've got the story we put up in all of our live chats.

00:01:15.580 We've put it up everywhere.

00:01:17.840 Just walk us through it.

00:01:18.920 Can you just walk us through what you found in your analysis of the RNC's budget and spending?

00:01:25.160 Yes, absolutely.

00:01:26.080 And it did take a ton of research, more than six days of just devoted to going through these FEC filings,

00:01:33.400 partly because there were so many misclassified expenses that I had to go through every line item on the files.

00:01:41.600 So, what I found was that since 20...

00:01:44.920 Hang on for one second.

00:01:46.960 What do you mean?

00:01:48.060 So, this was all public information out on FEC filings, correct?

00:01:52.780 Number one?

00:01:53.380 All the financial things.

00:01:54.720 Yes.

00:01:55.520 Yes, I did speak to a number of insiders too, but all of the financials are completely public.

00:02:02.480 So, what do you mean, tell our audience first, what do you mean by misclassified?

00:02:06.460 So, just in the third quarter of 2022, almost $5,000 was spent at Lululemon, which is basically expensive yoga pants and exercise gear.

00:02:18.420 And it was listed as an office expense.

00:02:22.640 Okay.

00:02:23.540 I got it.

00:02:24.060 So, there's things like that.

00:02:26.200 Okay.

00:02:26.840 So, then walk us...

00:02:27.700 You took care of the misclassifications.

00:02:29.640 Walk us through your report.

00:02:31.220 So, since 2017, the RNC has spent $3.1 million on private jets, $1.3 million on limo and chauffeur services, $17 million for donor mementos, which is just insane, three quarters of a million dollars on floral arrangements, $80,000 in alcohol expenditures, including drizzly deliveries to the office.

00:02:58.540 And that's where you can, like a door dash for alcohol.

00:03:03.980 They also had very exclusive staff retreats, almost $400,000 on entertainment things like tickets to the Lion King on Broadway, a private box at a Raiders game, a staff retreat for more than 30 employees and their families at the Salamander Resort and Spa in Virginia, which is about $1,000 a night place.

00:03:26.440 So, let's go back.

00:03:30.740 Is this...

00:03:31.960 When you have these huge numbers, like $3.1 million for private jets, $1.3 million for limos, the $17 million for donor tchotchkes, I guess, or donor awards, is that part of it all for donors?

00:03:45.660 Is that part all to not reimburse donors, but to actually get donors, make them excited and have them give more money, or is this to reward them for the money they've already put in?

00:03:55.260 So, the donor omentos is, I believe, just to give them recognition for what they've donated and, yeah, I'm sure to incentivize them to spend more.

00:04:07.680 But the private jets and the limo and everything, that's just all expenses for RNC employees on top of whatever commercial flights that staffers would take to get to whatever races they're working on.

00:04:19.720 So, correct me if I'm wrong, I understand they're big donors, and they're large donors, and they have to be feted.

00:04:31.820 And although I think most of them say, hey, I can do my own parties on my own, I can spend time with my family or my significant others on my own, I don't need to do it at the RNC expense because it's just kind of taking money out of what I'm putting in.

00:04:45.160 But still, the bulk of the money is by little donors.

00:04:49.140 Still, they have a vast fundraising apparatus that specializes in getting $50 bills from people on a monthly basis.

00:04:56.820 Or when they put a call out, one of these emails that said, hey, if you don't send $50, we're going to lose everything.

00:05:03.480 Is there any money spent, was there any money spent fedding the little guy?

00:05:08.920 Was this, where this is the little guy's money that was spent?

00:05:11.780 Is there anything giving them a pat on, did they get a donor tchotchke in your review?

00:05:19.940 It didn't go through and say exactly to which donors certain things were spent.

00:05:24.860 But I, from small donors I've talked to, they maybe, what they usually get is another solicitation for more money.

00:05:32.800 If you're a $25, $50 a month donor, you're just basically going to get, okay, thanks, you did your duty, now give me more money.

00:05:40.680 And I spoke to some large donors while researching this story too, to get their feelings on how this money was being spent.

00:05:49.000 And you're right, the large donors, they don't care.

00:05:52.140 They can go to a private box at an NFL game anytime they want.

00:05:55.620 They don't need to go, and that was actually a staff retreat, but things like that, they don't need.

00:06:01.200 They would rather have things that the RNC can easily give them almost for free, like maybe FaceTime with senators or representatives at some kind of a private event, maybe even at someone's home.

00:06:14.200 They don't need to be sent, you know, $200 custom pins by a jeweler.

00:06:24.380 Let's go to the, is the top ones, is the private jets in the limos, is that all for, is that related to donors or is that more related to staff?

00:06:33.100 In other words, you've got the three.

00:06:34.240 It's not related to donors.

00:06:36.880 That's related to, that's related to staff.

00:06:38.800 Is there, is the jets used in emergency situations where, in other words, you need to get lawyers to certain locations to file things?

00:06:47.520 I mean, is there any justification for that or any context for that that we can?

00:06:52.460 No context.

00:06:53.120 But when I looked at the DNC's financials for this past election cycle, so during this election cycle, it was about half a million that was spent on private jets for the RNC.

00:07:03.800 It was $35,000 for the DNC.

00:07:05.980 Mm-hmm.

00:07:08.300 What about, what about the, the limo services?

00:07:11.120 I take it the flowers is a big, the roughly what, $750 or a million dollars for the flowers versus what, the DNC spend?

00:07:18.060 A thousand.

00:07:21.880 As you talk to people, because you, you have, you've gone through all the FEC reports and classified it correctly, not misclassified it.

00:07:30.260 And then you've talked to people who would talk to you on background, right?

00:07:34.000 To keep their anonymity.

00:07:35.280 What, what was the general sense of, of, you talked to two groups, donors and, and, and staff or former staff.

00:07:43.880 What was, what was the sense of what the, what the staff had to say?

00:07:48.020 They're just astounded by what they see.

00:07:52.280 I also spoke to several national committee people who will be voting in this upcoming election, about six of them.

00:07:58.680 And most of them didn't know these numbers.

00:08:01.020 That was the most surprising thing to me was that, and they said that they're not given anything at their meetings except the very top line.

00:08:08.460 Like, Hey, we spent this much on office supplies.

00:08:10.660 We spent this much on travel.

00:08:13.640 You know, we spent this much on it.

00:08:15.620 And when they asked even the budget committee chair for more detail on that, that chair doesn't have that detail either.

00:08:23.840 They all said that the spending decisions are all made at the very top with no input or oversight.

00:08:31.320 Well, is that a problem with their being on top of things?

00:08:34.660 I mean, if the budget committee chairman is saying, Hey, you know, isn't it a little surprising that people either on the board or this one 68, if they're saying they're surprised in seeing this, is that because they're not on top of things and asking those pointed questions that you always have to ask as part of your fiduciary responsibility, or is it being purposely hidden from them?

00:09:00.060 From what they said to me, it's purposely being hidden from them.

00:09:04.660 Yeah, then that's a problem.

00:09:06.720 All right.

00:09:07.000 That's a problem.

00:09:08.080 Are there any of those people you get a sense going to start coming?

00:09:10.720 We saw that Nebraska said that they're not going to support anybody, right?

00:09:16.160 They've put the Texas and I think Arizona is the same.

00:09:19.460 And this is before this.

00:09:21.280 And Tennessee.

00:09:22.300 So the six in Tennessee, the, the, the, the six national committee men that you talked to committee men and committee woman that you talked to all six were surprised by these numbers.

00:09:32.840 Yeah, completely.

00:09:34.160 Especially for the donor gifts.

00:09:36.780 That's a lot of money.

00:09:39.240 The donor, what would the donor gifts?

00:09:41.000 The donor gifts are such a big number.

00:09:43.000 It's got to be, it has to be something else classified in there.

00:09:47.480 Couldn't they couldn't have spent $17 million on tchotchkes?

00:09:51.440 Could they?

00:09:52.140 I mean, the donors have everything they need.

00:09:55.440 You can't, what are you going to give them a nicer pin or a brooch or something like that?

00:09:58.600 Well, it's, it's, I'm sure some of these are in great, you know, embroidered jackets, right?

00:10:03.920 Bomber jackets.

00:10:04.760 Right.

00:10:04.880 So I feel like a big shot, but that only costs so much.

00:10:08.200 The 17 million is obviously is a number that jumps off the page.

00:10:11.020 Do you think it's any chances?

00:10:12.120 There's misclassification of that, or do you think they actually spent $17 million on, on

00:10:18.620 gee gaws, as we used to call them?

00:10:20.680 Well, they, there's definitely misclassification because I found one expense for SoulCycle classified

00:10:26.920 as donor memento, which SoulCycle is a gym, you know, where you go and do the, the bike

00:10:34.120 riding on those incredibly difficult classes.

00:10:37.680 So I don't think that they were giving that to a donor, but there is quite a few expenses

00:10:42.660 to the big companies that do, uh, corporate gifts and all those personalized gifts and

00:10:48.620 a lot to, uh, this legendary jeweler, Anne Hand in Washington, DC, who makes beautiful

00:10:54.540 custom pins.

00:10:55.640 So, and then the Christmas, the white house Christmas ornament people, but those ornaments

00:11:00.200 even at cost are over a hundred dollars.

00:11:04.640 Did you approach after you had finished your initial cut and talk to people, did you approach

00:11:09.740 the RNC officially and say, Hey, look, I've gone through the public reporting and, and

00:11:15.040 this is where I'm coming out with, you guys have comments or am I, can you contextualize

00:11:19.140 it for me?

00:11:20.020 Am I, am I, you know, inadvertently misrepresenting what mathematical reality is that, did you approach

00:11:26.900 the RNC?

00:11:28.100 I did approach them and I did not get a reply before publication time, uh, spent hours and

00:11:36.020 hours trying to find personal contact information for, uh, Ronna McDaniel and was not able to

00:11:43.040 even get that from the committee people that I spoke to, but sent an email to the address

00:11:47.580 that I could find online and didn't hear anything.

00:11:49.820 But within about 30 minutes after my story published, Emma Vaughn, who both works for the

00:11:55.640 RNC and says that she's spokesperson for Ronna McDaniel, sent me a message that she insisted

00:12:02.300 I post verbatim, basically saying that it's a hit piece because Harmeet Dillon has represented

00:12:08.560 me in the past and that, uh, that I should do the math and realize that it only adds up

00:12:14.760 to 0.8% of the total amount the chairwoman raised.

00:12:20.020 Okay.

00:12:20.480 So let's go back or let's take that from the top that, that the spokesman came to you and

00:12:24.840 said she wanted you to put a, uh, I guess something on the article so people could see it.

00:12:29.500 And what would that say?

00:12:32.500 It said a client of Harmeet Dillon decided to publish a hit piece in the middle of the

00:12:36.300 night without making a serious attempt to engage with the RNC or chairman McDaniel's

00:12:40.540 team.

00:12:41.180 This blog post is blatantly false as the lies is as blatantly false as the lies she has 0.89

00:12:45.680 been spreading that RNC members are being bribed for their votes.

00:12:48.880 If critics want to misrepresent and push false narratives about the RNC spending this past

00:12:54.080 cycle, they should do the math before realizing it adds up to only 0.8% of the total amount

00:12:58.540 the chairwoman raised.

00:13:00.600 Okay.

00:13:01.120 Let's, let's take those in order.

00:13:02.720 Are you a client of Harmeet Dillon's?

00:13:05.860 Yes.

00:13:06.340 And that's disclosed in the article.

00:13:08.800 It wasn't when it was published too.

00:13:11.840 Did you make an effort?

00:13:14.440 Was this one of the ones that, Hey, I've got a piece that's coming out at a nine o'clock

00:13:20.420 at night and you contact them at 8 45 PM and say, Hey, do you have any comments on this?

00:13:25.280 Or when did you start reaching out to the, I did contact her late?

00:13:29.680 Yeah, I did contact her later in it.

00:13:31.840 Um, as you know, from your time in journalism, sometimes when people who are very powerful

00:13:37.800 find out that something is going to be released, they, uh, take efforts to spike it before you

00:13:43.400 can publish.

00:13:44.000 So, uh, did, I did want to avoid that.

00:13:50.160 So is, would you, would you agree or disagree with her statement that you didn't make an

00:13:57.720 effort?

00:13:58.260 She says you did not make a real effort to contact RNC people to have them respond to

00:14:02.980 this.

00:14:03.520 Would you agree that she's closer to being right or closer to being wrong?

00:14:09.400 Uh, I don't really have an opinion on, on that.

00:14:14.320 I do believe that if people want to be contacted about things, they should make their contact

00:14:19.160 information easily available.

00:14:21.900 Okay.

00:14:23.040 Look at Breitbart, we did a number of these, you know, Hey, it's going to come out.

00:14:26.980 Cause you know that it could be spiked or it could be things.

00:14:29.680 So I, but it is, you can judge that.

00:14:32.460 Hey, maybe, maybe you didn't get the full, the full vetting by the RNC.

00:14:36.400 Can you hang on one second, uh, Jennifer Von, uh, Lahr from over at red state, very powerful 0.98

00:14:43.500 article.

00:14:44.100 We're going to take a short commercial break.

00:14:45.400 We're going to return and go back through more of it.

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00:16:07.460 Back.

00:16:09.660 Okay.

00:16:10.300 Jennifer Von Blar is the managing editor at Red State.

00:16:14.440 Jennifer, you said, I just want to make sure everybody's clear about this.

00:16:17.120 You said that Harmeet Dillon did represent you.

00:16:21.280 How did she represent you?

00:16:23.000 Where'd she represent you? 0.99

00:16:23.840 So, uh, back in 2019, I broke the story about Katie Hill's, uh, abuse of her staffers and

00:16:32.260 the affair that she was having with one of her staffers.

00:16:34.600 And Katie sued me over that. 1.00

00:16:37.020 She lost, uh, Harmeet Dillon.

00:16:40.560 She still technically represents me because, uh, because Katie still owes me $85,000 that 0.99

00:16:47.540 we're trying to provide.

00:16:49.860 Okay.

00:16:50.400 Something just happened to your audio.

00:16:51.740 So if we can, yeah, Denver can get that click back in.

00:16:54.460 Uh, so she sued you for your piece on her that eventually led to her resignation from

00:16:59.820 Congress.

00:17:00.720 Uh, and you, and Harmeet represented you on that.

00:17:03.300 And you said that you won that and she still owes you, uh, the, the former Congress person

00:17:08.860 still owes you what?

00:17:09.640 $85,000.

00:17:10.500 Yes, $85,000.

00:17:15.060 Okay.

00:17:15.880 Did Harmeet Dillon, did you, did Harmeet see this piece before you publish it?

00:17:21.160 No, she did not.

00:17:23.560 And Red State, Red State and yourself as managing editor, you stand by all the numbers that are

00:17:28.840 in here?

00:17:30.280 Absolutely.

00:17:31.020 They're all public record for the numbers.

00:17:33.260 Uh, obviously I, like I said before, I had to reclassify some of them that were clearly

00:17:38.720 misclassified.

00:17:41.640 So the response from the spokesperson that you didn't really track anybody down, this

00:17:46.140 a hit piece, um, you're in league with Harmeet Dillon and it's no big deal because it's only

00:17:52.500 0.8% of the money was raised.

00:17:55.760 Uh, what is, uh, you've been kind enough to read that to us on, on air.

00:17:59.740 Uh, just give us your response to those.

00:18:04.560 I believe it's a pretty weak defense because it's a lot of money.

00:18:08.860 It doesn't matter that it's only 0.8%, especially to the people who are sending in 25, $50 a

00:18:14.160 month and it's being spent this way.

00:18:16.120 And we lost the Nevada Senate race by less than 1%.

00:18:19.340 That money could have been spent on voter contact to win the race.

00:18:25.920 Um, okay.

00:18:26.920 Okay.

00:18:27.220 Is there any additional developments or is this story going to have another chapter to

00:18:31.600 it?

00:18:31.720 Are you working on other things, uh, on this story?

00:18:34.020 You don't need to tell us the details of if you're going to drop them as scoops, but

00:18:37.680 are you working on additional things on the story that we will see?

00:18:42.280 Yes, I am.

00:18:44.640 Would you be open to, if the RNC was open to it, to sit down with their staff and they're

00:18:49.000 sitting there going, you, you didn't really understand what the numbers are.

00:18:51.800 Are you in red state open to sit down with the RNC and have them walk you through the

00:18:56.460 numbers to, to correct any, any in their eyes, uh, you know, uh, not misinformation, but

00:19:04.560 maybe not understanding the context.

00:19:08.040 Absolutely.

00:19:10.720 What, um, in the, in the national committee, man, how many people have reached out to you

00:19:15.580 this morning?

00:19:16.000 Generally when this story broke, because, you know, I probably had, I don't know, a hundred

00:19:20.800 people send the story to me this morning.

00:19:23.000 I guess you put it out late last night.

00:19:24.860 Um, how many national committee people have, have, have reached out to you about this?

00:19:31.160 Uh, I'm in Los Angeles, so it's pretty early still here, but I've had several people reach

00:19:38.040 out.

00:19:38.340 Um, okay.

00:19:40.580 Anything else our audience should know about this?

00:19:42.640 I take it once again, red state stands by the story.

00:19:45.260 You stand by, uh, your contacts with former staff and national committee people and you,

00:19:50.800 uh, and you stand by all the numbers, correct?

00:19:54.340 Yep, absolutely.

00:19:56.400 Okay.

00:19:56.980 Anything else we need to know on this?

00:19:59.140 Nope.

00:19:59.480 That's all really until the next installment comes out.

00:20:02.900 The next installment, well, Jennifer, uh, Von Lair, um, a very powerful story and, uh,

00:20:10.500 we've reached out to the RNC and we're going to try to get their side of it too, but, uh,

00:20:13.720 very, very, uh, let's say this, it's a story that everybody's reading, everybody's talking

00:20:18.100 about.

00:20:18.360 So thank you very much, uh, for joining us, changing your day out in Los Angeles to join

00:20:23.000 us early in the morning.

00:20:23.780 Thank you.

00:20:24.840 Thank you.

00:20:26.620 Okay.

00:20:27.300 Um, so you've got the opening volley, which is this story.

00:20:30.860 You've got the, at least the pushback somewhat, which she was nice enough to read.

00:20:35.420 Um, and we're going to try to get the RNC and heart on here tomorrow.

00:20:38.780 I'm sure there'll be other people want to come on this afternoon, et cetera, because this

00:20:42.040 is a story that's getting a lot of traction right now.

00:20:44.640 Uh, and this whole issue of the RNC.

00:20:46.440 Okay.

00:20:46.940 Um, I want to go back to the fights we've got, uh, particularly around the omnibus, but

00:20:53.500 there's other big things that are happening.

00:20:55.920 Uh, do I have both, uh, Natalie and Naomi?

00:20:58.340 Okay.

00:20:58.520 So you had a DeSantis yesterday, I think it was yesterday or the day before, uh, throw

00:21:03.360 down hard on big pharma.

00:21:05.240 And of course, governor DeSantis is every day is taking on the marriage equality act.

00:21:09.480 He's going across the board on a lot of these issues that are at the forefront of people's

00:21:14.320 thinking.

00:21:15.260 Uh, but this one was particularly big, but other things broke yesterday.

00:21:19.280 The Republicans put, are putting forward a report.

00:21:22.720 There's new polling on Fauci.

00:21:24.500 I want to bring Natalie Winters in, who's been really the tip of the spear in the investigative

00:21:27.720 side.

00:21:28.560 Walk us through this, this report, uh, and particularly how much is fresh, how much is

00:21:33.940 new, how much is repurposed.

00:21:36.080 But the timing of this is quite interesting coming as it does on DeSantis's throwdown and

00:21:41.860 particularly him calling out Fauci.

00:21:43.560 And of course, um, Elon Musk saying, you got to prosecute Fauci and then connecting Fauci

00:21:50.160 directly to the gain of function experiments, which you said killed 6 million people.

00:21:54.680 So walk us through this report from, remember the Republicans are in the minority right now,

00:21:59.020 but you can kind of see directionally where they're going to go when they're in the majority.

00:22:03.260 Remember the appropriations bill.

00:22:04.840 The reason we're fighting it on the omnibus is the anvil.

00:22:07.780 The investigations are the hammer.

00:22:09.500 And this is one of the hammers, Natalie Winters. 0.54

00:22:11.640 Well, I remember when I was on a few days ago, there was that wonderful clip of Anthony Fauci

00:22:16.960 doing his farewell tour where he basically calls Twitter, um, a cesspool of misinformation.

00:22:22.240 And I think that that line is very interesting coming from Anthony Fauci, because it seems

00:22:27.460 that Elon Musk is teasing that there's going to be some inner either communications or cables

00:22:32.780 leaked about the messaging going on at Twitter, particularly with Fauci's involvement, um, coming

00:22:38.740 from the government in terms of censoring stories about the origins of COVID.

00:22:42.180 So I think it's interesting.

00:22:43.280 That's a little tell, a little slip of the tongue from Anthony Fauci and that he's trying

00:22:47.340 to get ahead of himself, trying to sort of lay the groundwork for maybe why he was so

00:22:51.740 involved with these social media platforms in terms of censorship of certain viewpoints

00:22:56.400 on the origins of COVID.

00:22:57.900 And this all sort of dovetails together, I think very, very nicely.

00:23:01.500 I would almost add curiously, um, with a report that was just dropped from the House

00:23:05.940 Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence from the, from the Republicans.

00:23:09.480 And some of the information in there about the origins of COVID, um, is stuff that the

00:23:14.300 war room audience has known, I think, since you started the show, although they do use

00:23:18.440 the word bioweapon and link it specifically to the Wuhan Institute of Virology.

00:23:22.940 But what I think is a revelation in this report and sort of a buried lead, um, of course, coming

00:23:28.820 on the heels of, you know, congressional Republicans also saying that they want to investigate the

00:23:33.940 51 members of the Intel, uh, the intelligence community who said that Hunter Biden's hard

00:23:38.680 drive was Russian disinformation is that this report actually singles out American intelligence

00:23:44.800 officials, not China's ministry of state security.

00:23:47.500 Um, but people here at home, um, who actually played a pivotal role in suppressing the lab leak

00:23:53.680 theory.

00:23:54.020 And I'll read a direct quote cause I think it's worth, it's worth reading the intelligence

00:23:58.020 community withheld key information from the public information that could have been shared

00:24:03.100 without damaging national security.

00:24:05.480 These emissions likely skewed the public's understanding of key issues and deepened mistrust.

00:24:10.720 And if you continue reading the report, you can see, um, that these members of the, the IC

00:24:15.340 consulted with external advisors and they don't name who these people are, but as someone who's

00:24:21.120 kind of tracked the, uh, the main purveyors of disinformation in terms of the origins of COVID-19,

00:24:26.480 I'm sure people like Peter Doshak, people who are part of that world health organization,

00:24:31.100 COVID origins, investigative team, um, people who really set out from day one to quash the

00:24:37.240 lab leak theory.

00:24:38.160 I'm sure that they were involved.

00:24:40.100 Um, but what's really interesting.

00:24:41.280 And I think again, another buried lead here, some signal, not noise is that they actually

00:24:45.860 single out a lot of, of these members of the intelligence community for failing to comply

00:24:50.880 with requests from Congress.

00:24:53.100 Um, they haven't escalated to the level of, you know, subpoena yet or hearings.

00:24:57.160 Um, but in terms of providing any transparency as to why they decided to not disclose fully

00:25:04.560 the origins of COVID-19 and why they kind of went very soft on the Chinese communist party.

00:25:10.340 So I think again, there, they might be laying the groundwork for yet another avenue of investigation,

00:25:15.200 not just into the intelligence community, but really there, I would call it collusion or at

00:25:20.180 least acting, um, in complete allegiance with the Chinese communist party.

00:25:26.180 This is kind of stunning.

00:25:27.420 I want to make sure we go back over this and the timeframe for this is, uh, the timeframe

00:25:31.520 for this goes all the way from the time.

00:25:33.760 This became an issue back in the spring of 2020, correct?

00:25:38.120 So I just want to make sure this was a big part of this is doing president Trump's presidency.

00:25:43.840 Am I correct on that?

00:25:44.800 Yes. And the other report that they single out was from October, 2021 from the office of

00:25:52.100 the director of national intelligence. So I think it's sort of, again, it really, I think

00:25:57.680 dovetails with a lot of this stuff that we're talking about, whether it be at Twitter, whether

00:26:02.280 it be people like Mike Pence, uh, coordinating with people like McConnell to sort of act as

00:26:07.720 the shadow government, um, amidst the Trump administration. And then once of course their efforts

00:26:12.960 to collude to get Trump out of office in 2020 worked, uh, you know, they sort of had a field

00:26:18.000 day and that's why you see such just a blatant disregard for truth in that 2021 report from Joe

00:26:24.480 Biden's director of national intelligence. Um, but I think that the bigger issue here, not only does

00:26:31.100 it speak to how I think the Chinese communist party has worked in tandem with a lot of the highest

00:26:36.960 level, I would say officials in the American ruling class to sort of cover up the origins of COVID-19,

00:26:43.280 but just ideologically, I mean, if you look from top to bottom, the people who, who compose Joe

00:26:49.520 Biden's Intel community, whether it's, you know, the director of the CIA as someone who was taking cash

00:26:55.060 from Chinese communist party influence groups during his tenure at the Carnegie Endowment for

00:26:59.620 International Peace and putting Chinese communist party members on his board or people like Jake

00:27:04.780 Sullivan who are up, uh, serving at the Belfer center, which is also flush with Chinese communist

00:27:09.620 party cash. You know, all of these people, if you read their writings, they've never wanted to actually

00:27:14.580 confront China. They're not, they've said in their own words, they're not in the, the policy. They're

00:27:19.340 not for the policy of containment, right? They want to encourage China's rise, right? That's a direct 0.96

00:27:23.980 quote from Joe Biden. And there would be no more confrontational, uh, I think approach to take to

00:27:28.860 the Chinese communist party than calling them out for creating COVID-19, calling them out for being 0.98

00:27:34.680 responsible for the origins of COVID. And making sure we can tie, connect it right to a bioweapons

00:27:41.200 program. They're not supposed to have an offensive bioweapons program. Okay. Uh, stick right there,

00:27:46.360 Natalie Winters, our executive editor and co-host. And we've got Dr. Naomi Wolf, uh, to tie it all

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00:29:31.060 Here's your host, Stephen K. Back. Okay, welcome back. Turning Point, TPUSA.com. Go there right now.

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00:30:02.260 the new year. Just one more. Do I have, is Naomi Wolf up? Naomi, can I, I want to connect this with

00:30:09.600 what Ron DeSantis did the other day and also the work that you guys are doing nonstop because you're

00:30:16.160 now getting in to sue people. Walk us through the developments of this report. Now you've got the

00:30:20.840 house and this will get more intense as we actually take the gavel on this. And of course,

00:30:26.100 they're tying in American intelligence to it, Chinese Communist Party, you know, CCP,

00:30:30.560 potential bioweapons program out of Wuhan, which we've said from day one. Put it in perspective 0.90

00:30:36.900 and particularly given that DeSantis, you got polling out now on Fauci, his numbers are collapsing and

00:30:42.580 they're only going to collapse more. That's why he's on this farewell tour. He won't stop. He's

00:30:46.780 every day. He's going to go to, he doesn't care if it's a three, three o'clock in the morning show

00:30:51.360 with five people watching. He's, he's addicted to it and he's going to go keep making his case.

00:30:55.720 Naomi Wolf. Well, what Natalie just laid out, you know, very eloquently is it has a, a flip side in

00:31:05.740 the, in the lives, the daily lives and the suffering of ordinary American families. And so what's being

00:31:12.260 pieced together now is the origin of the virus as a bioweapon. And the fact that China and Chinese 1.00

00:31:20.520 money has bought up, as we've been saying for months and months and months, key influencers,

00:31:25.980 elected officials, political figures to create a kind of meta stratum of treason. But the other side

00:31:33.900 of where all of that corruption went is the vaccine, which is, you know, manufactured by the exact same

00:31:41.840 people who were manufacturing the virus as a bioweapon, essentially the Chinese communist party. And 0.99

00:31:47.920 the, and, and the, the rollout was defended and promoted and lied about, you know, by, by the same

00:31:57.420 kind of, uh, influencers buoyed by this money flow from China and from pharma. So, um, governor DeSantis,

00:32:04.920 uh, did make it an important, uh, step, um, kind of shining a light on and calling for a grand jury

00:32:12.940 investigation of the rollout and the lies told by the pharmaceutical industry and their, their

00:32:19.620 influencers. Um, and that's going to be really salutary. As I said, you know, last time I was on

00:32:26.900 about this, uh, in the same way that, uh, Natalie Winters pointed out the, the disclosure, you know,

00:32:31.480 we're going to see the, we're going to get the receipts. We're going to see the emails. We're

00:32:35.040 going to see, you know, who was, um, lying to the American people about pharmaceutical products and,

00:32:41.220 and who paid for the lies. And I just want to say, you know, this ties in very much with what

00:32:47.440 Amy Kelly and our 3,500 experts have most recently revealed. Um, and this is a really dark day in terms of,

00:32:55.720 you know, how these lies landed in the lives and damaged the bodies of, of Americans. Like these

00:33:02.220 traitors are also mass murderers. There's just no other way to put it. Um, Amy Kelly's team of, 0.97

00:33:09.360 uh, war room daily cloud researchers have published a new piece. Um, it's up on daily cloud showing that

00:33:15.600 in one country alone, um, there were so many thrombotic events, meaning blood clotting problems

00:33:22.700 after the MRNA injection that there were over 150, um, crises, uh, of thrombotic events and 18 people

00:33:32.820 died. I'm going to say that again in one small country, Britain, which is smaller than some of

00:33:38.180 our States in terms of population three within three months after the Pfizer vaccine was injected

00:33:45.500 in people. Um, there were 18 deaths and over 150 thrombotic events. And these are, these are, this is

00:33:53.200 within the Pfizer documents, right? This is not a conspiracy theory. It's not speculation. It's from

00:33:58.360 these internal documents that, uh, Pfizer thought and the FDA thought would never see the light of day.

00:34:03.280 These are, this Pfizer's own tally, 18 dead people. So all of those deaths are squarely at the feet of

00:34:09.520 Dr. Fauci, you know, the, the people who are being revealed to have colluded with China, protected

00:34:15.460 China, kept Americans from finding out early on, you know, how involved China was in, in manufacturing

00:34:22.480 the virus as a bioweapon that may have made them more skeptical, um, about, you know, a big push,

00:34:28.340 a big PR push that poured money into universities like Yale, into, uh, media companies like the Guardian,

00:34:34.860 into every single aspect of our lives, driving people to, um, get injected for what they believed

00:34:41.140 was a, you know, wet market release or something that just spilled over or something organic. Um,

00:34:47.060 these people are, are, are literally murderers as well as traitors. And I want to say one other thing, 0.98

00:34:51.660 if I may, I'm pretty angry today because, um, last night, a loved one who had been in perfect health

00:34:57.980 before she got three mRNA injections, um, told me she had had to go to the ER with heart tightness,

00:35:06.860 whatever chest tightness, and they found hypertension. And of course, you know, her doctors

00:35:11.240 are like, we have no idea. Why would there be hypertension? It just sort of happened. Of course,

00:35:16.240 I asked Amy Kelly to do what she's doing pro bono for grieving and suffering families across this

00:35:22.320 country, which is a search of the Pfizer documents through this tool abstractor that one of our

00:35:27.440 volunteers created and that we're funding the hosting of, which searches by subject,

00:35:32.600 all of these 55,000 documents. And she found that there are 272 hypertension, uh, crises mentioned

00:35:40.640 in the Pfizer documents. And that when she searched VAERS, which is fully available for all of the

00:35:45.940 doctors in America to search for hypertension as an adverse event of Pfizer and Moderna COVID vaccines,

00:35:51.360 this is the message she got quote, this request produces 108,234 rows, but 10,000 is the maximum

00:36:00.880 allowed. So she concludes there's so many hypertension adverse events reported in the VAERS database,

00:36:06.600 the CDC zone database for the Pfizer and Moderna vaccine, that it cannot produce the results unless

00:36:12.360 I do multiple reports separately. In other words, there are so many Americans suffering from hypertension

00:36:18.560 who never had it before, right? Or, you know, it was a crisis after the Pfizer and Moderna injections.

00:36:24.660 So many reported and only a tiny fraction of the total are reported, right? It's been estimated by

00:36:30.560 Harvard 10% of the total number of events are reported in the VAERS database. So you're looking

00:36:36.440 at what could be a million cases of hypertension after being injected with the Pfizer document in the

00:36:42.300 health population. But here's what's confusing to people. Is Denmark or the UK or Germany, are they

00:36:51.380 bringing forward this information when they're saying we don't want people under 40 or 50 years

00:36:56.180 old now should not get, I think, the bivalent booster, the third one? And is the FDA, are they

00:37:03.000 disclosing in their conversations, because they're continuing to approve this now for babies as low as

00:37:09.340 six months? This evidence you're bringing forward, is this the type of thing DeSantis is going to bring

00:37:13.880 forward? Or is this being discussed at the FDA now? Because I think the bid and the ask on this is

00:37:19.220 people sit there and go, hey, if this information is there and it's in their documents, how can possibly

00:37:24.640 responsible people using their fiduciary responsibility at the FDA and the CDC not also be putting

00:37:32.140 forward this information when what you get is the exact opposite. They're continuing to say that it's safe and

00:37:38.060 effective, safe and effective. In fact, Fauci on his farewell tour is not doubling down, he's quintupling

00:37:45.200 down to say it's safe and effective, safe and effective, safe and effective. In fact, it saved

00:37:50.300 millions of lives. A quote from the thing last night, it saved millions of lives. It is what's gotten us

00:37:56.380 through this pandemic and with now people loosening the requirements of masks when it sweeps back in,

00:38:03.400 it's what's going to save you in the future, ma'am. I mean, you're, this is exactly the right

00:38:09.120 question, right? And the answer is absolutely absurd, Steve. Literally, no, you know, Denmark is

00:38:15.060 not disclosing this information. The Guardian is not disclosing this information. Literally, this is

00:38:21.920 not, you know, Amy didn't get this information from the British Journal of Medicine or the Lancet or any

00:38:31.160 other peer reviewed journal that's supposed to be studying this sort of thing. Literally, you know about

00:38:37.080 it. And everyone watching now knows about these over 100,000 cases of hypertension, the VARS database

00:38:43.380 post mRNA injection, because one person on our staff supported by you and the posse did a search created by

00:38:51.680 another volunteer living in Britain, you know, literally in the hands of good people who are trying

00:38:57.480 to save humanity from being injured or killed. I mean, it's, it's down to that. Like, like, no,

00:39:04.680 the CDC should have done their own search of hypertension, because it's certainly a signal in

00:39:10.660 the VARS database. It is certainly a signal. And it is their job to alert us when there's a signal.

00:39:16.120 Okay, but the hundreds, the hundreds of people, okay, this is what's confusing. The hundreds of

00:39:21.280 people, thousands of people on their staff, thousands that are all from the best schools

00:39:27.960 in the country and trained at the best locations are totally credentialized. Somebody in the thousands

00:39:33.580 had to say, hey, maybe go to Google and check there or check the database of the Pfizer stuff we

00:39:39.080 already have, do our search and see booms and hypertension will pop up. Are you saying that

00:39:45.760 you don't think anybody did that or it's been? Okay, go ahead. It's worse than that. The VARS

00:39:50.220 database is, is owned and in the custody of the CDC. Rochelle Walensky owns this database. It's her job

00:40:00.600 to monitor it. And they missed a signal of such a serious side effect, which requires,

00:40:06.520 you know, medicalization, right? It requires medication, more profit to pharma to treat

00:40:13.560 hypertension, right? It is such a massive signal that the database itself can't even handle it

00:40:20.960 without printing out multiple reports. It breaks the pipeline. It's such a serious signal. And over in

00:40:27.340 terms of the thrombotic events, you know, 18 deaths, 18 deaths from a clotting disorder that,

00:40:34.620 you know, barely existed before this thing was rolled out. And no one notices that not in Britain,

00:40:40.200 not the FDA, again, who's custody that databases, the Pfizer documents, these are massive, massive

00:40:47.400 signals. And yes, it's the, it's the FDA's job to notice that 18 people died within three months

00:40:53.460 after being injected with a Pfizer vaccine in Britain, of the clotting crisis that, you know,

00:41:00.380 there were over 150 reports of, and it's Rochelle Walensky's job to notice that over a hundred

00:41:06.080 thousand Americans had hypertension that they hadn't had before, or it got worse, or they had a crisis

00:41:12.200 after being injected with an mRNA vaccine. It's, it's her job. And these people have fallen down on the

00:41:18.060 job. And, and directionally, directionally, if you look at DeSantis' announcement about he's going to get

00:41:23.640 a grand jury in, I think, Tampa to go to the Supreme Court of Florida and conduct his own, a grand jury

00:41:29.720 and his own commission. You've seen the Republicans, even in the minority, put forward this report today

00:41:34.900 that, trying to get to the bottom of this. Do you think, and you're seeing Denmark, Germany, and other

00:41:40.280 countries saying, hey, under 40 years old, maybe we don't take it, or unless you have a comorbidity

00:41:46.020 or some chronic disease, do you think directionally, as you see things today, that it's moving in your

00:41:52.480 direction, that more exposure, more information, more data, more evidence, so people then can make

00:41:58.960 up their own mind without being inundated with the TV ads that you've got nonstop to continue to take

00:42:04.920 these? Ma'am. Great question. I mean, the TV ads are not, are not ending. There are many states,

00:42:11.740 and I think that our lawyers' letters to attorneys general have had an impact on this, because one of

00:42:17.480 the things our lawyers have pointed out to attorneys general is that these TV ads are lying, and that's,

00:42:23.480 as Governor DeSantis points out, illegal. You can't do that. That's fraud. Ed Dowd also, you know, has

00:42:29.540 talked a lot about fraud and totally, you know, lying about the safety and effectiveness of a drug,

00:42:35.520 and thus getting people to take it through coercion, basically, in a way that they wouldn't have if they

00:42:40.660 had accurate information is literally against the law. But in other states, I keep hearing reports

00:42:45.380 that the drumbeat is relentless, the states are taking the money, the radio stations are taking

00:42:50.500 the money, and it continues. Now, in terms of your other question, sure, yes. And again, thanks to you,

00:42:59.000 thanks to Natalie Winters, thanks to the last remaining six, you know, people doing journalism in

00:43:04.260 this country. There's more information out there, but it is no, in no universe commensurate with

00:43:10.140 what's needed. And even Denmark and Sweden are not being honest about why they're pulling back.

00:43:15.920 Naomi, hold on. Natalie, hold on. We're going to hold you to the break. We'll be back in the warm 0.79

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00:46:56.100 all of this together is that to the, you know, even now doctors who are treating people injured by

00:47:00.920 these bioweapons don't admit that they're caused by the bioweapons. So even to this day, people are

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00:47:30.720 Thank you, ma'am. Thank you, Naomi Wolf. Look forward to having you back on.

00:47:33.840 Fight the good fight. Thank you.

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00:47:48.220 Okay. We're going to have you back on about this report. Quite a disturbing report put out by the

00:47:55.480 House Republicans. Remember, this is when they're in the minority. Once they take over, that's where

00:47:59.620 we've got to crush this omnibus bill. You need to have both the anvil of appropriations and the hammer

00:48:04.700 of investigations. Natalie, thank you very much. Look forward to having you back on, ma'am.

00:48:08.680 Thank you.

00:48:12.560 Joe, I want to, I want to tease, you come on later tonight, talk to me about this, another explosive

00:48:18.660 artificial intelligence story that's kind of up in your grill, sir.

00:48:23.500 Yes, Steve, there's a story that's up right now at Daily Mail. It's, if Denver can throw up the

00:48:29.300 screen grab, maybe the audience can get through it easily. But this basically is discussing the

00:48:36.920 implications of what happens when these chatbots, particularly chat GPT and other large language

00:48:43.860 models, start to replace riders. And Elon Musk, who funded OpenAI at its inception, has actually

00:48:52.960 expressed some concern that it will replace humans. I don't know that he's really worried about that

00:48:57.800 given his trajectory, but that's what he's saying. And I've been covering it via social media for the

00:49:04.540 last couple of weeks pretty heavily. I mean, the stories just keep on coming and coming.

00:49:08.680 And when you look at this new program, chat GPT, it undoubtedly represents a huge advance in large

00:49:16.160 language models. Basically, these are AI programs that scour previous literature and other bits of

00:49:23.340 writing and the internet and allow the user to simply ask it a question. And it will, some of them

00:49:30.040 produce conversational responses. Chat GPT is geared to produce short essays. And these essays or scripts

00:49:39.820 or short stories or whatever you ask for are convincingly good, right? It's not, the program

00:49:49.260 stumbles. It wouldn't fool you every time to make you think it was a human. But the implication is that

00:49:56.400 more and more, you're going to have media companies, you're going to have various corporations

00:50:00.860 that will put copywriters out of a job. Copywriters will be there, much like translators are now,

00:50:08.120 to simply edit the products of artificial intelligence. I've said for a long time, the biggest impact of

00:50:14.660 this will be sociological and psychological. People will be demoralized, and I don't really think

00:50:22.820 the creators care. There's two things. Number one, people think that, oh, the AI and the regenerative

00:50:30.780 robotics, all that's just going to take the place of workers on a GM or a Ford factory line,

00:50:36.860 right? The kind of the advanced robotics. This is showing you it's going to take the place of the,

00:50:41.660 of people that work in administration, you know, lawyers, already the creators, the artists are already,

00:50:48.880 you know, people that draw for a living or do commercial, um, uh, prints are sitting there

00:50:54.500 going, you know, what are you doing here? Cause they're doing the art there. Now they're doing

00:50:57.840 the writing. The other thing we'll get you back on at six. Um, it's increased, what's coming out of

00:51:04.140 these labs is increasing at an increasing rate. Like you said, you were a little surprised.

00:51:09.040 The professionals that cover this were surprised, I think by the advances, this is what's happening

00:51:13.900 every day is that coming from a research lab or coming from some company with your venture

00:51:18.580 capital money, your pension fund money, the advances are much greater than what people

00:51:25.120 thought. It's a little bit like the Neuralink presentation the other day. They're much farther

00:51:28.760 advanced than what people talked about in every different aspect of this. That's only, this is

00:51:34.040 going to accelerate at an accelerating rate. That's when you have a problem and nobody's got their arms

00:51:39.920 around it. Joe, uh, how did people get to you between now? We'll have you back on at six o'clock

00:51:43.480 tonight. Uh, you guys can find a new article I have up right now. White hot, uh, demon spawn, 0.81

00:51:50.740 artificial wounds in ancient India. Uh, it's up at jobot.xyz. It will be up on my social media

00:51:57.920 in two seconds. And, uh, you can also find it at war room.org under the transhumanism tab.

00:52:04.740 Okay. Uh, thank you. Uh, whenever we're back here at five, I think at five o'clock, we're going to

00:52:09.820 start. I think we've got somebody associated either with the RNC or associated with the RNC

00:52:13.880 that's going to walk through these numbers and contextualize them. So the audience has a, a full,

00:52:19.240 uh, vetting of all this. So we're back here at five, five to seven night. We'll be on fire.

00:52:24.200 I'm going to spill massive fights on Capitol Hill. They're trying to push through statehood,

00:52:28.320 I think for Puerto Rico. Uh, we'll be getting to all of it five to seven back here in the war room.

00:52:33.680 We'll see you then.

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Bannon's War Room - December 15, 2022

Episode 2376： The Egregious Spending By The RNC

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