Episode 2388： Am Fest Recap： What We Learned And How To Win Moving Forward
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Summary
Charlie Kirk is the founder of Turning Point USA, a political organization dedicated to taking back our country from the deep state. He's also the co-founder of AmericaFest, a leading voice in the anti-war movement, and is a frequent guest on CNN's Hard Knocks. In this episode, Charlie talks about why he founded Turning Point, what it's all about, and what it means to be an activist.
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The reason I got a free shot at all these networks lying about the people.
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I know you've tried to do everything in the world to stop that,
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but you're not going to stop it. It's going to happen.
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And where do people like that go to share the big line?
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I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.
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Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?
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If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.
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Guys, guess what? Christmas came early yesterday.
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About a little over a day ago, I stood here on this stage and I said,
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please pray, not just for me, pray for our attorneys, pray for our witnesses, pray for the judge.
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But, but, but, I'm a Christian, but I'm done turning the other cheek.
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So now when we say, hey, you know, America Fest is completed.
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The easy thing in 2023 would be to complain and say, this is kind of an off year.
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The necessary thing is to say, I'm going to do something in 2023.
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And if you're looking for that place to start, that's why Turning Point exists.
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Turning Point exists to fill you up, make it easier for you to do that for the resources,
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the training, the staffing, the programming, the messaging, all of that, because we need
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2022 is a complicated year, but I think we can look back and say, hey, we've been so
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blessed and we still are blessed to live in the greatest country ever to exist in the
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And our future is solely determined on what we do.
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Let's make a decision to do something meaningful and impactful.
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God bless Turning Point USA and God bless all of you.
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Then we got to bring the criminal charges and send them to prison for treason and selling
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Is there any doubt you've gone through the laptop from hell?
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Remember, it was a year later and they spent all that time with Twitter and Facebook and
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all of them prepping and saying, oh, this is Russian disinformation.
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They had Rudy's, had everybody's that was working on it.
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Now, it was an open coup by Ray and Barr and the DHS CIA and the people that work for
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And we all politics is performative until we get the investigations and get to the bottom
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of every name, the 51 intelligence officers and everybody else that sold this country out.
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We're here for the board meeting upstairs of Turning Point USA.
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It's Tuesday, 20 December, the year of our Lord, 2022.
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We're honored to have, we're here at Charlie Kirk's headquarters at Turning Point USA at
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I got to tell you, I've been to a lot of CPACs and CPACs is terrific.
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Going to the old days when Andrew was there, there was something about this.
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It felt like a ton, thousands and thousands of young people, activists.
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And for the war room posse, they showed up a little older element.
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It's the largest multi-day event in the history of the conservative movement.
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Now, it would have been the largest event if it wasn't for those darn MAGA rallies.
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But it was the largest multi-day event if you exclude party conventions.
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You got 11,200 people that came through there, Steve, of all ages.
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And people said they're going to run for school board now, state rep.
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They're going to start holding people accountable, do FOIA requests.
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And the magic of AmericaFest really was in the breakouts.
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The breakout sessions is where I got the most feedback.
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Because it was about 200 to 300 people in the room.
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What kind of topics did you cover and who was there covering?
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How to spot a woke pastor and why to change your church if they're not preaching the gospel
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correctly and or if they're going in that woke direction, how to run for school board,
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how to run for student body president if you're a student, how to start a turning point chapter.
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And that's really the takeaway we receive from so many people is they feel better equipped.
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So it's not just giving them the technology and giving them the equipment,
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but also giving them a little bit of a chance to see the people they look up to.
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We call them breakout sessions, but what you're referring to are actually working groups
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where you come together, you're giving them the tools, there's a lot of interactivity,
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It's not just, you know, somebody selling you something in there like a seminar.
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You say about how I was stunned by not just the scale of the audience behind the scenes.
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The scale of this 11,000 people, probably at any one time, seven or 8,000 action space.
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Some for-profit businesses, nonprofits, great organizations there.
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500 people just showing up for a war room just to watch every morning at 8 a.m.
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But I went to Media Row to do, we pre-recorded some stuff for Jack.
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And then you turn the corner and there's another Media Row.
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And that doesn't count the online influencers, the ambassadors.
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So think about all the micro events that we had too.
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So we had a pastor's dinner last night, had 195 pastors from across the country.
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We had an educator summit going on simultaneously.
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500 teachers from across the country, government and private school teachers.
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We had our influencer ambassador summit last night that Jack was there.
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Over 120, I think 120, 150 online social media influencers, combined social media reach
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We had our high school breakouts, our college breakouts.
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So you look at kind of every vertical that we have to try to make gains in.
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And the conservative movement, there was specialized training across the board for that.
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And then of course, the big plenary sessions where we had the big guys, Tucker, you, Steve,
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How cool was it, Steve, to hear the stories, to meet the people?
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Because Steve, you say always populism, nationalism.
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I spent more time out kind of in the hall more than any other event I've ever done.
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And you go through and you're always on to this meeting, on to this thing, on to this thing.
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I said, hey, these people, they're in the midst of what I think is an inflation recession.
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We're nice enough to buy tickets and travel across the country.
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I want to spend as much time as I can with them.
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Talk about across the country and across the world.
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How long does it take to plan and get this, to actually do this and to do it at the scale
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But from the event logistics to booking speakers to all that, it's all in-house.
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And that comes with a lot of work and precision.
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And you even had Tim Pool do his show for the first time ever live.
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This is the only time he's done a show outside.
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First time ever in front of people, live audience.
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But look, it's a culmination of all of our events.
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And so if the only thing we did at Turning Point was AmericaFest,
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But it's just a little bit of a window of the machine that we've been blessed with at Turning Point USA.
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This is to summarize where we are and also to fire off the football for 2023.
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So Turning Point Action is also a big part of what we're doing.
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And so a lot of people say, hey, Charlie, I'm not sure how to think about this.
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No, 98.3% of people that attended say that Ronna Romney should be fired.
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And so the approval, disapproval, 98% of our attendees disapprove of the RNC.
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And, you know, we'll see how people end up voting.
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But that Clubby 168, I think, needs to start listening to voters.
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How important is the apparatus of the RNC in your mind to turn around?
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I mean, it's instrumental because according to federal election code,
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not to bore people with, you know, federal regulations or campaign finance,
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the RNC can do stuff that a Super PAC, a C4 and outside groups cannot do.
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It could do voter registration and standing with city and local governments
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The party itself, like it or not, is able to raise money and share data
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And so if you don't have a functioning party, you're not going to win in 2024.
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The poll was big because, and it broke down then for Harmeet and Mike and Rana.
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Nobody came and campaigned and said, Rana, Rana is terrible.
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And no, I mean, by the way, I'm not making this personal about Rana.
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I think she should go run for Congress in Michigan.
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But if you lose, especially a Senate seat in a year that should have been a red wave,
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you should be fired and a new regime should come in.
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Okay, before we lose you, and by the way, the brother Prasovic is going to join Natalie Winters,
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Pretty explosive interview yesterday with Congressman Boeber.
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I asked a very specific question, not knowing there was any kind of a background between
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Bolgert and MTG saying, Marjorie Taylor Greene, whom we all respect, thinks Kevin McCarthy
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And I guess I started some sort of a range war.
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My eyebrows have become kind of like an internet meme now.
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All I see on Twitter are my eyebrows over and over.
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I mean, I was accused of asking direct questions.
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I said, I want to know, are you a hard no or not?
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And I just kept on asking because I'm curious, right?
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Gates, to his credit, was like, yeah, I'm a hard no.
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I was like, well, what if you're head of appropriations?
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I think our students were blessed by their energy.
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It's this great multi-generational convergence that has never happened before.
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And I had so many people come and say, we're so glad we made the decision to come.
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I mean, from all over the country, more impossible.
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And at the end of all that, Charlie Kirk has got to go run to babysit.
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Back here at Charlie Kirk's studio with War Room in a month.
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I guess it was that we're going to do this without an open this time.
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First off, I'm going to turn to Natalie here for her assessment.
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In the first block, we were a little misogynist.
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I had a very reflective speech to give today at the kind of, you know, the last speech
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Well, Jack Posovic's up before me, and Jack Posovic goes Latin mass on me.
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Jack Posovic breaks out into our father, I think it was, right?
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Well, look, you know, that was because, though, Steve, it wasn't just for a gimmick of doing
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We were offering it for Father Frank, and what I said up there was, I said, look, let
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me tell you something about my friend Father Frank.
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Because Father Frank sees what they're doing to these unborn children.
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He sees the machinations of the way that these various groups like Planned Parenthood and
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others work with the administration, Joe Biden, Nancy Pelosi, these people who we are told
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are Catholics, and it makes him very, very upset.
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For the man that's run the priest for life for 30 years, are they going after Biden?
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Marshall with the scoop on this, that it was Pope Francis himself that signed off on this.
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So it's a full, and by the way, and this is something where for folks-
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And didn't the Daily Mail today has a story about the Pope's right hand, the other Jesuit,
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The Jesuit artist that does the paintings with the pedo eyes in it, right?
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Is it the same church in Georgetown that Biden goes to?
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So this is a priest who would have been defrocked.
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This is a priest who would have been suspended completely, but-
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Whereas Pope Francis is our first ever Jesuit priest.
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And the Jesuits, you got to understand, these were like, they were like the navy seals
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I went to Georgetown when it was still Catholic.
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You were there back when they still had slaves, right?
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That's where they've given half the university back then, right?
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By the way, you notice they hid that only for a hundred years.
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And so, what happened though, is somewhere along the line, really in the 1960s, this order
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gets infiltrated, and that is where you see the most liberal pushing the LGBT agenda type.
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It went to only communists back in the 60s, after Vatican II.
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And this is where you get, this is where Pope Francis derives from.
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He hasn't even congratulated his own home team on winning the World Cup yet.
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Not even, Argentina wins, nothing from Pope Francis whatsoever, because the guy is, he
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And I know we're going, we're going high Vatican, you know, hierarchy on this, but it's, you
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have to understand that there is this Jesuit order that has become infiltrated.
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Liberation theology comes out of South America, and then you put that into the Vatican, so
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They'll take care of their friends, whatever they're doing, but you got a guy like Father
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Frank, you got a guy who's standing up for the rights of the unborn.
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And regardless of which, you know, which, which, which church you go to, that is something
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The liberation theology ties to the Frankfurt School that came over around the war.
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But from the University of Paris, these great universities, they realized they couldn't sell
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the Europeans on this, because it was too crazy an idea.
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They said, oh, let's go to Central America and Latin America.
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Let me let me I want to get you two guys in here for tell me about particularly Natalie,
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because you're traditionally what AmFest is about this younger generation.
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Well, I think the sense of camaraderie that events that turning points turning point puts
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You know, I only graduated college less than a year ago.
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I mean, I know people hear about the indoctrination attempts that goes on on campus, but it really
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is demoralization in the sense that what do you mean by that?
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They want kids who not even necessarily are conservative and self identify as conservative,
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but people who don't buy into the mainstream narratives, people who, you know, aren't eager
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to write their papers about feminism and all of these left wing talking points.
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They really, I think, capitalize and weaponize the fact that you feel ostracized and you feel
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And I think that's how they get a lot of these people to kind of join the cult.
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That is, you want to call it liberalism, leftism, wokeism.
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So I think events like turning point, and that was sort of what I gathered from a lot
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of the people my age that I got to speak to, which I usually don't spend much time around
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people my age, was that it's turning point that sort of is the counter to that.
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It's you can still have a sense of community, really a sense of purpose, which I think people
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It's a lot easier to be a young person and be on the left because your entire social calendar
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You know, the activities you have to get involved in, you know, the protests you have to go
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And the acceptance you're going to get both by the faculty and the administration.
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University of Chicago is known as a Bastion of Chicago School of Economics.
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People think of it almost as a graduate school.
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You're telling me even if someplace like Chicago, it's infiltrated by this social justice wokeness.
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They look to I think the Chicago School of Economics is sort of a scarlet letter on their
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And there's no better example of this, not to get anecdotal.
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I had joined a sorority in my first week of being there.
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And I was actually kicked out of it for being affiliated with War Room.
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So I was part of the, whatever the equivalent of the pledge class is, right?
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I don't even know what any of this means because I was never heard of it.
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And I get an email from the chapter president, the vice president, and the national representative-
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I have to appear for a hearing because they say I'm transphobic, which if anyone knows
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me, I mean, get me for hating the Chinese Communist Party, like transphobia.
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So I show up to this hearing and they start questioning me about my beliefs about-
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I show up and they start questioning me about basically what my career plans are.
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If I decide to, if I want to continue working for War Room, working with Raheem and the
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National Pulse and what kind of stories I'd be covering.
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And they very slightly, you know, suggest, because they were holding a vote on whether
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But I said to their face, I said, of course I went off in typical Natalie Winters, you know,
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And I outlined all the reasons why what they were doing was absolutely crazy.
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Also, the transphobia issue aside, they said, we cannot support you becoming a member of
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this chapter because what if one of our other members of your pledge class was transgender?
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And I was like, only would a sorority put the needs and desires of a transgender person
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So I, but, but the silver lining to the story and why to tie it all back to turning point,
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why it's important is because I knew that I had an ecosystem back in Washington, DC,
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like war room, like Raheem and the national pulse and my conservative friends to support
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me where I was confident saying to the sorority, you know what?
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So I said, I don't want to be a part of your sorority.
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I was a third generation legacy at this sorority.
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And I said, I don't want to be your grandmother and your mother and your mother.
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And by the way, I'm going to move to Washington, DC.
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I'm going to start working for war room and you're going to see me on live TV.
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Now we know the backstory of the work ethic of Natalie Winter.
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It was that I had a community to go back to and something to work forward to.
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And knowing that if I wore my conservative values on my sleeve, I could still have a job.
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Because as being from LA, I was told that I was a crazy person.
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By the way, we had a whole nother show scheduled the post game, but I'm so mesmerized by Delta Gamma.
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Very big buried lead, which is uncharacteristic.
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I got a lot of reports, but this was the one of the person explaining how I was transphobic.
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Although I personally am not a black transgender woman, I would not feel comfortable sharing
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a sisterhood with someone who calls my truth clown world.
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The new member's referral to a black transgender woman that was calling attention to the disproportionate
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amount of hate crimes committed against her specific demographic as clown world was shocking.
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The repeated rhetoric about transgender individuals, LGBTQ plus individuals, and same sex marriage
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and the new member's social media and journalism left me extremely uncomfortable.
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I struggled with how I could in good faith encourage a woman who identifies with the demographics
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targeted by this new member in her tweets and journalism to join our sisterhood if I knew
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Natalie Winters might be sitting right next to her chapter calling her truth a clown world.
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Are you telling me, hold on, hang on, the Delta Gamma chapter in the University of Chicago
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Well, I, so to be fair, and this is the funniest part of the whole story, so about two years
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after I left, all of UChicago Greek life basically disbanded because they all said it was too racist
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to still exist, so I was actually ahead of the curve.
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They shut down all the sororities and fraternities?
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It wasn't like Harvard where it was top down like the institution themselves saying-
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Hold on, did it, Harvard kicked the fraternities and sororities all over?
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Oh, you should, we should have talked about this when Charlie was here.
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So, but UChicago, because even though you think UChicago rights level-headed conservative
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No, that, but it's a perfect example of the wokes kind of eating their own because they actually
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disbanded the sororities and, but then they actually all just reformed and started this
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So it's, it's also kids can just party and drink at the core of it, but the berries
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So the thing I said, it's a very interesting story.
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Tell me about the adult, the woman from the chapter.
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She goes, oh, you mean the Chinese woman, right?
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Paul, do you have a Confucius Institute of Chicago?
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So UChicago, well, there are no Confucius Institutes anymore because they got rid of
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So the joke's on them because they actually created their own worst enemy.
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But UChicago is probably one of the worst offenders when it comes to Chinese Communist
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Party, cash influxes and these kinds of propaganda operations.
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The China United States Exchange Foundation, which is one of these groups that I'm always
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They don't try to hide it like Confucius Institute.
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Yeah, they're part of Beijing's political warfare department through and through.
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And UChicago still routinely collaborates with them.
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I think they just held a summit with them on climate change or something.
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The origin story of Natalie Winters is that a suspected CCP agent tried to kick her out of
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The same one that her mother and her grandmother had been in.
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Sets her off on a crusade against the Chinese Communist Party to which she continues.
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She gets the Confucius Institute shut down nationwide.
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I'm glad the war room has comic book rights to that, right?
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But I stand by what I said in that for young people, even though I wish everyone could
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be courageous and the whole thing, but it's really hard when I was 19 at the time to go
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against the grain entirely and know that when I walked out of that skiff, I was going to
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be known as the crazy banded girl, which to me was like the best nickname ever.
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But to everyone else, I was the crazy neo-Nazi that could never get into the parties, that
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wouldn't have a social life, that all my professors would know that, oh, she's the crazy right-wing
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And that's why groups like Turning Point are so important.
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We noticed in doing the show and having people come up afterwards, there were even a lot of
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There are now more Turning Point high school chapters than there are college chapters.
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We had done the Great Reset with Charlie and the guys, the team, about five or six months
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The outpouring of the war and the older demographic was incredible.
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This was the first multi-generational Turning Point event that we've seen.
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But this was the first one that was really multi-generational.
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I mean, we always bring the whole family and the kids.
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So I saw like a bunch of the other ambassadors, parents, that I've never seen before.
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No, this has really become something that you can't even compare it to anything else
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We're going to have to be comparing things to AmericaFest now.
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I also think what's so amazing is someone who was sort of loose...
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I'd never been to a Turning Point event before, but I remember when I was in high school...
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And nothing against organizations like Young Americans for Freedom, but it's just really
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interesting to see that among the younger kind of group, at least who are attending this,
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that the populist movement is alive and well because it's not just talking about tax cuts.
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It's not just the idea that, oh, well, kids become conservative once they start paying taxes.
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I'm like, I'm going to get replaced as the co-host of Worm.
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I always think that, you know, I think young conservatives have always been better informed
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because the narratives that they're sharing go against the mainstream.
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You're sort of formed as the antithesis to what the mainstream is.
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So inherently you're just going to know the facts because you have to, because you're
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Everyone in your class, I know how it was, was always asking you, well, why do you believe
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So I know how these kids are so well informed, but they're really passionate about issues
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You know, whether it's, I think, issues like education for younger kids, right?
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Like the groomer issues and the sort of sexualization of children.
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Just from all these issues, they don't just approach it from the sort of, you know, old
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They approach it with the action, action, action mentality.
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I mean, I was blown away because I'm sort of, not that I'm a pessimistic person, but
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Not a waste of resources because it's important for the camaraderie, but I love to see what
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It's about the action on the other side of things.
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I'm going to say something that Charlie would not have said when he was here.
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And it's something that Turning Point does that if you go and look when, when they sell
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the tickets on there, if you notice the student prices are much, much cheaper than the adult
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And for, when the students come in, they're offered, if they're Turning Point members,
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they get offered a stipend for their hotel, sometimes even their travel.
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So when you look at Turning Point, and this is not me doing a pitch because they don't,
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They actually take the donor money that comes in and they invest it in the kids.
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I've never seen any other organization that does this at that scale.
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And so it puts in, this didn't exist when I was coming up, when I was going to college,
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Somebody that I came out here with was talking about he had twins.
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And there are two colleges in the Midwest, which are, you would think are just standard
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stock, middle of the road colleges, not radical at all.
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Kind of that good Midwestern where you want to send your kids.
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Both of them are conservatives and they say that they absolutely dialed down what they're
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Both of them in communication, different schools.
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They dial it all down and don't come forward to being true conservatives, what they really
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Because the teachers right out of the box, it's a C, right?
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You went to one of the top prep schools in the country.
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Is that pressure in high school and in college?
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I had a teacher who had purple hair, like the whole trope of the like, you know, non-binary
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And I was, this was back in 2016 when Trump was running.
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She threatened to beat me up because I went on a podcast at the time.
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This is not the show we had planned at all, by the way.
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Charlie's going to be like, what did you guys do back when I left?
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So I was always pushing my high school to be more open to political discourse because
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their new initiative was diversity, equity and inclusion.
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I'm like, you tell us every day you've made the new motto of the school diversity.
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Yet if I say anything that is remotely right wing, I'm ostracized and castigated as this
00:40:47.000
So I said, why don't we bring in a conservative speaker?
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For example, to an assembly because they literally brought in a communist one time to come and
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It actually turned out to be Hugh Hewitt that came.
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So then after, after he spoke Andy Pudster, the guy.
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A lot of them have now since become transgender and I'll, I'll leave it at that.
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But, but my, so my point is, so I was, I was talking to the administration.
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I was like, everything you're doing is so hypocritical because you're telling me diversity is so important.
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Yet I'm like, you know, this crazy, I'm being cast as this crazy person because I'm just not a far left Democrat.
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So what the issue was, was that they started kind of replacing the old guard of teachers at my school.
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And frankly, the people who are overseeing administration and admissions with these really, really far left people.
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So the kind of institutional culture of the school changed.
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And unfortunately, I think that's what we're talking about at these Midwestern schools because it's, you know, the tail is old.
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They're all because you have to be a professor, to be even a teacher in high school.
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Now you have to get your master's degree from one of these teaching institutions.
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And they indoctrinate the teachers even worse into wokeness.
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And then they go and let's take a commercial break, take a short commercial break.
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By the way, you know what they said out there at Harvard Westlake.
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She's already wearing the Trump, the MAGA hat, right?
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But yeah, it's one of the most inspiring environments I've ever been in.
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I'm literally in Charlie's chair and he's like still warm.
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But yeah, like being that he never went to college.
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And I think it's like almost like a fraternity or sorority that people can come to join.
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Like college students, the new media, the younger generation coming in.
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I mean, I went to Penn State, but you went to Temple down in the city.
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I think in the debates between Trump and Biden, the one question was like, say one thing that was good about the other side.
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It's easier, I think, for them actually to bind together because they control the apparatus.
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I mean, they look at you, you know, you're just not a Republican.
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You're something that's a Nazi, a white nationalist, something you're something dangerous.
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Republicans and all that, even the young Americans for freedom.
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I think that may be the difference of why it's such a such a virulent hatred.
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Of the MAGA movement in our institutions, particularly college campuses.
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That's why we come to AmFest and we see each other as we are, as patriots or Christians or what have you.
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Kevin, I'm going to throw something out there, too, because you're not even saying it.
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Because, Kevin, you and Taylor Marshall were leading something at 7 p.m. every single day of AmFest right in the back.
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Because, Steve, I come around the corner and what do I see?
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I saw 50 to 60 men and women around the course of what's going on over there on their knees.
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And we we gathered together our our little prayer cards.
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But we assembled them on a chair, you know, just like they do in battlefields.
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And yeah, they're doing battle rosaries back there, Steve.
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Every night at seven, you were praying the rosary for Father Pavone and other special intentions of the week.
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I got a lot of followers from that, a lot of new connections, other Catholic people.
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Do young people, I know older people do, but do young people, I'll go Kevin first and then Natalie.
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I mean, the younger generation needs to be taught still that there is a spiritual world.
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I mean, if you believe in the devil, you know, if you believe in God, you have to believe in the devil.
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Do you think the younger generation thinks of as a spiritual warfare like we do?
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A lot of the young people that I spoke with this past week really were using the talking points of the war room.
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And I think see it through that lens because it is good versus evil.
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And I think for people who are sort of opposed to these type of conferences and think it's a waste of time,
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you know, you're training the next generation of leaders.
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And in a spiritual war, in political warfare, in any form of warfare, information warfare, you need leaders.
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You need the people to be invigorated and want to fight and in the fight and in it wholeheartedly.
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And I think there's a spiritual element to that, too.
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And I think it's events like these that give people hope.
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And Kevin, not to say your thunder, but so, Steve, Kevin goes to traditional Latin mass every week, but he also joins groups.
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And every time when he's traveling, he'll find another one.
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When you're looking at the age demographics in those Latin masses that you go to, are we talking older or are we talking younger?
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That was another, I guess, alternative to like sororities and fraternities is like young adults groups.
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And with social media, that's one of the pros of it.
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Kev, what do you, what do you say about the, uh, St. George?
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What do you say about the, uh, what do you, what do you say about the babies crying?
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I'm the, I'm the one, I'm the voice of the one in the desert.
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Before we go, by the way, we're going to do more of the assessment tomorrow since we,
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We said, but no, when you pull yourself out of the story, University of Chicago as a third
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What they did to that young girl, which would be you, right?
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That was pure evil to try to crush her spirit of actually thinking a different way.
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A calculated attempt to tell me that I'm not allowed to go against the way that they
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I won't have an academic career and I won't have a career.
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Thank the entire production crew here for letting us do the afternoon war room here.
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