Bannon's War Room - December 26, 2022


Episode 2401： A WarRoom Boxing Day Special


Episode Stats

Length

54 minutes

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125.109634

Word Count

6,847

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289

Misogynist Sentences

3

Hate Speech Sentences

8


Summary

Ken Blackwell, former Secretary of State of Ohio and a conservative icon in the conservative movement for decades, joins me to talk about the need for a great awakening in America, and why it is essential that we have one.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 When the snow lay round about, deep and crisp and leaven,
00:00:10.000 Brightly showed the moon that night, how the frost was gluwen,
00:00:15.000 When a poor man came in sight, gathering with a fewen.
00:00:23.000 Hither, page and strand, I know, and the clouds keep telling,
00:00:29.000 Yonder peasant, who is he, where and what he's swearing?
00:00:34.000 Spire in it, how could the pen see me beneath the mountain?
00:00:39.000 Bright against the forest fence, boys, it has its finest fountain.
00:00:46.000 Bring me flesh and bring me wine, bring me pine logs hither,
00:00:52.000 The law and my receiving time.
00:00:54.000 Okay, Merry Christmas.
00:00:56.000 It is Monday, 26 December.
00:01:00.000 In the year of our Lord, 2022, we continue on with our Boxing Day special.
00:01:05.000 I have one of my favorite people on, Ken Blackwell,
00:01:07.000 who now joins us, former Secretary of State of Ohio,
00:01:10.000 and one of the most prominent thinkers and activists
00:01:14.000 in the conservative movement for many, many, many decades.
00:01:17.000 And we just had Dr. Carol Swain was able to join us for the first hour of our special.
00:01:22.000 And she left us with, talked about a great awakening,
00:01:25.000 but it was because if America doesn't have a great awakening,
00:01:28.000 she's fears that America could actually fall.
00:01:32.000 We can see the fall of this republic because we've gotten so far off of the original tenets,
00:01:39.000 the intellectual and spiritual and moral and ethical underpinnings of this great nation.
00:01:48.000 I think in a time of renewal, which is always what Advent and the birth of Christ is about in Hanukkah.
00:01:55.000 What are your thoughts about this?
00:01:58.000 I think Dr. Swain is correct.
00:02:04.000 I mean, you just go to the Declaration of Independence and that powerful second paragraph,
00:02:12.000 which helps us to understand that for the first time in all of human history,
00:02:19.000 we had a nation that was built on a foundational understanding that God, not government,
00:02:26.000 was at the center of our being.
00:02:31.000 And, you know, we've been fighting, Steve, for decades now,
00:02:36.000 the march of relativism, marching towards the destruction of absolute truth.
00:02:43.000 And as someone who grew up in the civil rights movement
00:02:48.000 and who had the privilege of sitting in the living room of Reverend L.B. Booth
00:02:53.000 and listening to Dr. King, his colleague, talk about the fact that if we didn't start with the absolute truth,
00:03:03.000 that we're all created equal and that God is at the center of our being,
00:03:08.000 then we didn't stand a chance to move this nation towards its promise.
00:03:17.000 And so if you, you know, I've been blessed, Steve, as you know.
00:03:20.000 I've traveled the globe.
00:03:22.000 I've been to over 63 of the 190-plus nations on the face of the earth,
00:03:29.000 and I've seen every type of government, totalitarian governments, authoritarian governments,
00:03:35.000 big welfare states, and one of the things that I know is that there is this constant push
00:03:44.000 to run God and faith out of the public square and destroy our families,
00:03:50.000 which are the incubators of liberty, to build a dependence on government.
00:03:56.000 So this attack on the moral absolutes and the authority of God in the life of our nation puts us on a glad path towards destruction.
00:04:09.000 So Carol is absolutely correct.
00:04:12.000 We can't let them run God and faith out of the public square and we can't let them destroy the family.
00:04:21.000 As you and I have talked about before, the family is the incubator of liberty and the family is where traditions are created.
00:04:34.000 You destroy the family, you run God and faith out of the public square, you put a hammer blow on religious liberty.
00:04:46.000 And again, you put us on a glad path towards destruction.
00:04:51.000 If you look at the founding of the nation, but then you look at the big turnings in American history, the revolution, you look at the Civil War, you look at the Great Depression and World War II,
00:05:03.000 and now, you know, guys like myself and others argue in the great fourth turning of American history.
00:05:10.000 In every other time in the revolution, in the Civil War, in the Great Depression and World War II, the Judeo-Christian values informed that culture and that society.
00:05:27.000 It was the foundational bedrock.
00:05:29.000 In people, you go back and you read, I know you're a great student of history and a reader of biographies as I am, and you see in every aspect that they are so steeped in the Christian tradition
00:05:44.000 and so understand how that's based on the values of the Judeo-Christian West from Athens and Jerusalem and Rome.
00:05:52.000 Have we, and particularly what's happened here so recently, it was the reason Dr. Swan said that we had to have, Dr. Swan said we had to have a great awakening.
00:06:02.000 Are we so far removed from that, that you can actually talk about how we can turn this around?
00:06:11.000 If this is a time of renewal and rebirth of the calendar year before the new year, is it time now to reflect upon that?
00:06:20.000 Is it, in Ken Blackwell's opinion, is it too far gone?
00:06:26.000 No, it's not.
00:06:28.000 And Steve, you know, that whole, you know, the birth of Christ, his death, his resurrection, what we know from a study of history is that in that cycle,
00:06:42.000 we moved from being a world headed towards a hopeless end to one where there is endless hope.
00:06:56.000 But as we talk among ourselves and we talk to others, we understand that it is through the regeneration of that faith in our ability to move history.
00:07:12.000 History is not a snapshot.
00:07:14.000 It is a process.
00:07:18.000 And you can either be made by history or you can make and move and shape history.
00:07:25.000 And that's why it's so important.
00:07:27.000 And there's just been an attack on a Judeo-Christian ethic and worldview because those radical extremists, those who want authoritarianism and who want to be the elite that rule the world through government apparatus,
00:07:49.000 they, in fact, know that they have to destroy that ethic and we have to know that we have the human agency to push back and to win.
00:08:00.000 And so, yeah, I mean, Woody Hayes used to always talk about three yards on the football field in the cloud of dust.
00:08:10.000 That's how we have to push it.
00:08:12.000 We're not always going to go to hell, Mary, and get it done.
00:08:15.000 You know, we have to, we have to push, we have to push forward.
00:08:19.000 I remember working in the South and there was, there was in Clarksdale, Mississippi, there was a Baptist preacher who talked about the Constitution and the importance of understanding religious liberty embedded in the Constitution.
00:08:43.000 And he said, I will fight for your constitutional right to be theologically wrong.
00:08:50.000 But what he was saying is that I'm not going to let you stifle me.
00:08:54.000 I'm not going to let you cross and crush the Constitution and religious liberty.
00:09:00.000 I'm going to say that I believe so much in the Judeo-Christian ethic that I can withstand any challenge and debate and conversation.
00:09:17.000 So that's what we have to, we have to get off of the sidelines.
00:09:20.000 You know, this is a battle.
00:09:22.000 This is a point in our history where we, in fact, cannot be sideline sitters.
00:09:28.000 We have to be on the front line and we have to understand the agency that we have to direct history going forward.
00:09:39.000 Steve, you might know, you might not know.
00:09:42.000 I had a great uncle.
00:09:43.000 His name was D. Hart Hubbard.
00:09:46.000 He was my mother's father's brother.
00:09:50.000 He was the first African-American, Black American to win an Olympic gold medal in track and field.
00:09:59.000 He did it in the 1924 games in Paris.
00:10:03.000 And what was so interesting about Uncle D. Hart was that that year he was to run against Eric Little in the 100, get qualified for the 100 and the high hurdles.
00:10:12.000 And when he got to Paris, he was told by the International Olympic Committee that the 100 and the high hurdles were white only events.
00:10:22.000 And so he didn't get to compete against Eric Little.
00:10:25.000 But he told my mom's generation and he told me that God had blessed him because he was able to witness something.
00:10:32.000 And that was Eric Little's fidelity to his faith and his tradition, his Christian tradition, that he, in fact, had a he was hit.
00:10:44.000 He was probably a sure bet to win the 100, particularly with my uncle not being in it.
00:10:50.000 He, in fact, chose not to run to worldly glory to practice the fidelity of his faith.
00:10:56.000 So that became a watchword in our family, fidelity to faith.
00:11:01.000 And that's what we call upon all Americans and human souls who find themselves in this trouble.
00:11:09.000 Fidelity to faith, understanding that we have the human agency to change the direction of history.
00:11:18.000 We don't have to be, you know, shaped by the forces of evil and the forces of authoritarianism.
00:11:27.000 You know, let's fight back.
00:11:30.000 When you say we got a minute or two here before we go to break, when you say fidelity off the Latin term, explain to our audience what you mean fidelity to faith.
00:11:42.000 What does that mean to Ken Blackwell?
00:11:43.000 What was that?
00:11:44.000 What was that tradition passed down?
00:11:46.000 Unshakeable fidelity, a faithfulness to that faith, a commitment to the person.
00:11:54.000 I mean, you know, the Marines have a fidelity, you know, to their ethic.
00:12:02.000 They are unafraid.
00:12:04.000 And Christ, you know, told us to be unafraid.
00:12:11.000 Understanding that we, in fact, cannot retreat to the sidelines.
00:12:18.000 We cannot fear the importance of challenging those who would undermine and that we can do it together.
00:12:30.000 You know, in 435 BC, I think it was, you know, before Christ, you know, Nehemiah had gotten a charge to rebuild the city and the walls of Jerusalem.
00:12:45.000 And he went into the center of the city and he let out a clarion call.
00:12:49.000 He said, come, let us build together.
00:12:52.000 And what he found when he was dealing with Getcham and Sam Ballard and Tobias, the naysayers, the nabob of negativism, he told his folks, keep your focus.
00:13:06.000 Do what you can with what you have, where you are.
00:13:09.000 Let's be force multipliers for each other and get it done.
00:13:13.000 Let's have a fidelity to our mission.
00:13:17.000 And that's what we have to have here in America in our third century.
00:13:22.000 Ken, just hang on.
00:13:24.000 Ken Blackwell, former secretary of state of the great state of Ohio and one of the leaders of the conservative movement for many, many decades.
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00:16:13.220 Okay, welcome back.
00:16:18.780 It's the day after Christmas, 26th December, the year of our Lord, 2022.
00:16:25.260 I want to thank everybody.
00:16:27.600 Audiences have been huge over the holidays, over the Christmas season.
00:16:33.100 I want to thank everybody for that.
00:16:34.140 Ken, you said we have to do what we can do with what's at hand.
00:16:40.180 I want to go back and return to one of the central theses, and particularly this time of year.
00:16:46.440 You continue to say that the family is the incubator of freedom and that in our foundational documents, the founders are very specific that these rights come from God, that your rights do not come from a government.
00:17:03.000 And it makes the two revolutions that took out at the same time, the American Revolution, the French Revolution, quite different.
00:17:10.120 That the French Revolution was all about the state and state power, right?
00:17:14.260 Talked about equality and liberty, but it was very much a – everything they wrote was very much the control of the state.
00:17:22.080 That's why they wanted to have a state that did not have a king at the top, but a republic, but it was a state nonetheless.
00:17:28.580 The American thinking that went into it is that these are natural rights that come from God and can't be interrupted by any government.
00:17:39.100 In that context, how is it that the family is the incubator of liberty?
00:17:43.780 In this time of year where everybody is so family-focused, do you see an erosion in a direct attack on said family, sir?
00:17:55.300 Oh, absolutely.
00:17:56.500 There is a desire to – by the big government, socialist, Marxist, authoritarian, administrative state to, in fact, make us dependent on government.
00:18:14.680 Look, what has made us different in what you just said was that we, as a nation, were founded on the intrinsic, non-negotiable right to be free.
00:18:31.400 And what we know, and you and I have both studied the whole principle of subsidiarity, that government closest to the people is the best.
00:18:45.240 So, you know, there's been a harness placed on the federal government that it keeps trying to break, then the state, then the county, then its township.
00:18:55.180 But that first unit of governance is the family.
00:19:01.720 And so that's why the family has been, whether it's the bourgeoisie in Russia, you know, or Mao's China, it has been to crush the family.
00:19:17.780 And so I believe that as a movement, we have to resist and we have to push back against the attempt of those governmental forces to run God and faith out of the public square.
00:19:32.520 And we have to understand the value of protecting the nuclear family, you know.
00:19:39.880 And so these crazy notions of gender fluidity and the like are attacks on the traditional family.
00:19:56.280 And we, in fact, have to take a stand in that regard.
00:20:02.620 And I grew up in a family where my mom and dad had us always focus on what they called the three books, you know.
00:20:11.920 And there were your date book, your checkbook, and the good book.
00:20:16.740 And quite naturally, the anchor book was the good book because it helped you choose the path of conviction over the path of convenience.
00:20:26.600 But they always had us always focus on that date book because it told how you spend your time and with whom you spend it.
00:20:37.240 And so that's why it's so important in terms of shows and the networking that you do and that we all try to do within the conservative movement.
00:20:47.000 It's so important because it is important that we, in fact, be force multipliers to one another, reinforce those non-negotiable fundamental human rights that has made us, you know, an exceptional nation.
00:21:06.620 And those who would destroy this nation, they don't want us to think about the USA as an exceptional nation.
00:21:15.220 That is not to say that we are a perfect nation.
00:21:18.400 We have, in fact, had periods where we've had to move history in a different direction.
00:21:24.760 But we have.
00:21:25.940 And so in our, you know, 247 years of existence, we, in fact, have come together in moments of challenge to move this country forward.
00:21:46.380 You know, we're not stuck in 1619.
00:21:50.540 We're not even stuck in 1776.
00:21:53.800 We, in fact, watched as we came together as a nation, all races, all ethnicities, both sexes, to, in fact, move this nation through the civil rights era.
00:22:09.440 And we knew that we had to look for that commonality of our human dignity.
00:22:15.980 And so, again, I've just been blessed to not only be in the company of great thinkers who were Christians, but some of our Jewish brethren.
00:22:29.480 And we are at the center of reform Judaism in Cincinnati.
00:22:38.760 Hebrew Union College is actually headquartered in Cincinnati.
00:22:43.240 And so one of the professors in the 60s was Heschel, Professor Joshua Heschel.
00:22:49.700 And he was a confidant, a Martin Luther King, but he, in fact, has to focus on a fundamental understanding that respect discovers the dignity in others.
00:23:05.660 And so that's the way that we move forward, understanding the traditions, understanding the importance of family, but most emphatically understanding the moral foundation of this country based on universal truth.
00:23:25.160 And we, in fact, we put out a clarion call for folks to put their shoulders to the wheel and grind this out.
00:23:46.680 We must save this most exceptional nation.
00:23:50.260 What do we say to people?
00:23:53.860 You've had this massive victory, and the massive victory was because the politics of Trump and this populism and people that came out and worked, and you had this change in the Supreme Court.
00:24:03.660 So you had this monumental reshifting on the Dodd situation and obviously Roe v. Wade.
00:24:12.000 And then immediately we got into this Marriage Equality Act, which I think many of the thinkers who I appreciate their intellect and their understanding of this is saying that this bill is really an oath for the first time in our country's history is really a potential attack, not just on organized religion, but Christianity.
00:24:34.800 What do you say to our audience that is going to put their shoulders to the wheel?
00:24:40.260 And my point is that this was passed by 12 Republican senators.
00:24:45.600 We had never gotten passed in the old days, but 12 Republican senators actually came up and voted for it.
00:24:51.400 And they did 12, not 10, so that they could all run for cover.
00:24:54.280 And then a number of Republicans in the House, sir.
00:24:57.560 Well, you know, we have new and strong headwinds, strong headwinds of new challenges.
00:25:07.100 And, you know, sometimes it's one step forward, two step backwards, two steps forward, one step backwards.
00:25:14.680 You know, history is not without its disruptions.
00:25:20.040 And as we march towards victory, we will have setbacks.
00:25:27.520 And so we can't be defeated or embrace defeatism when things don't work out perfectly.
00:25:36.940 We have to get a ball for the ground and we have to continue to fight.
00:25:42.240 You know, but, you know, one of the things that we know, if you go back to those words in that second paragraph, life, you know, liberty and the pursuit of happiness, we know that you can't have liberty if you don't have life.
00:25:58.120 And so protecting innocent life is paramount to actually winning the soul and maintaining the soul of this nation.
00:26:07.380 We know that it's pretty difficult to pursue happiness if you're enslaved.
00:26:14.220 And so, one, fighting for liberty and being a stand-to-bearer for liberty, no matter, you know, what it is that you can do, you know, everyone can't be a king, Martin Luther King.
00:26:29.960 Everyone can't be a Fannie Lou Hamer.
00:26:32.460 But, yeah, the reality is that you do what you can where you are.
00:26:39.100 And that's the message.
00:26:41.920 You know, don't give in to a setback or don't give in to the cowardness of folks who proclaim to be the stand-to-bearers.
00:26:54.580 Change them.
00:26:56.160 Challenge them.
00:26:57.520 Ken Blackwell, hang with us.
00:26:59.160 It's our Boxing Day special on the day after Christmas.
00:27:04.760 Ken Blackwell honors us with his involvement.
00:27:09.200 And we're going to take a short break.
00:27:10.660 Be back in a moment.
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00:29:50.840 okay welcome back to the war room it's our christmas celebration we always love these
00:30:08.700 shows love the people we have on ken dr swain said that she didn't think that we could get
00:30:15.920 back on track and actually save the country unless we had a great awakening i know that you're a
00:30:21.720 student of this one do you believe she's correct and two what would be the what would be the tenets
00:30:28.480 of a great awakening how how if we need this what is it how do we drive towards that what would be
00:30:36.720 the outcome that would then inform our decisions going forward well i i i think she's she's she's
00:30:45.480 correct um look we we have to understand what is at the essence of the exceptional uh nature of our
00:31:00.960 of our of our country um but you know you you you can't you can't have an an awakening if in fact
00:31:11.160 everybody goes into rent brand winkle mode you you actually have to start with uh those who
00:31:19.440 want to proclaim uh the the magnificence of the word of god and and the gift that god has given us uh in
00:31:28.500 in in this country and it starts with being willing to to take a to take us to take a stand uh and i and
00:31:38.160 and i think it you know it's just doing it steve as i've mentioned it's just doing the the the little
00:31:43.960 things you know you you you won't have it if you run away from the word of god if you if you let them
00:31:51.420 cleanse the the the the public square of of of of biblical direction uh and and and so again uh
00:32:01.840 this this this country has has has been unique in in that uh it uh it has it has always when it has
00:32:10.620 been at its greatest uh had god at its center uh and and we just have to be willing to to to take that
00:32:18.180 to take that stand uh and we when we started by looking at little things whether it is reclaiming
00:32:25.920 uh uh our schools uh uh reclaiming the curricula of our of our schools uh actually uh taking a stand to
00:32:36.640 to to to to to to to protect life to to understand that you know the the left the radical left uh will
00:32:47.440 will will will will be alarmed and they are alarmed uh that this country has found in its uh judicial
00:32:57.120 system uh judges justices with the courage uh to to uh protect innocent innocent life uh and so we we
00:33:07.280 just have to be we have to be engaged and and and one one of the things that you can start to pick up
00:33:14.320 uh as a signal is uh the the number of people who are starting to push back against this notion of
00:33:22.800 gender fluidity uh the the the the attack on the family uh where our efforts to reclaim the curriculum
00:33:30.560 uh and the and the and parental rights uh and the education of our in our in our children it's it is
00:33:39.600 just you know a fundamental understanding that uh there are people who are willing to to fight and
00:33:47.200 to take a you know take rush to heal uh with with the with the word of god so you're very when you
00:33:58.080 see all the everything is happening and you see the parental rights movement kind of come out of nowhere
00:34:02.720 as a reaction to what the school system's trying to do the education system's trying to do you take
00:34:09.600 that as a positive because it springs out it springs up uh as self-organizing and without any organized
00:34:15.760 structure and the next thing you know it's one of the biggest and put parental rights this movement
00:34:21.280 in context of what you've seen before of other rights movements that have built up because it seems
00:34:26.160 like all the rights movements we've seen uh recently are are on the left particularly uh you know the gay
00:34:32.560 marriage situation uh now gender fluidity gender affirmation all of that so is this something that
00:34:39.200 sprung up out of whole cloth from somewhere well look if my mind is and i don't to be profess to be a
00:34:47.600 leading authority on this but you know i i watched uh to the the whole institution of slavery in this
00:34:55.280 country i watched uh them tear down uh the masculine role of the of the male in the family uh and you
00:35:04.800 know i've watched the this whole notion of the welfare state uh which created a a system where uh folks
00:35:15.120 could families couldn't get a hand up if the male was still in the house you know and so the we saw a
00:35:22.000 whole system put in place a social welfare system that got its its its its its energy uh from dividing
00:35:31.760 the family and attacking the male and destroying the the destroying the work ethic uh uh uh and and
00:35:40.160 that that disease now has has crisscrossed uh the country uh regardless of ethnicity race you know or
00:35:49.360 or or income we've we've we've we've watched the work ethic uh be this be destroyed but i i i see
00:35:57.200 whether it's in chicago or detroit or cincinnati or or waco texas i i actually see people fighting back
00:36:08.400 to say one uh i'd rather be free uh and a lower income with opportunity to work my way to
00:36:19.200 middle class than to be a dependent award of the state uh and and and so you know we we people
00:36:28.960 might think that we just give lip service when we talk about human agency and people's people being
00:36:34.800 participants uh in their own upliftment uh but but we're not we're we're playing to a a basic
00:36:42.480 instinct that when we tap into it uh we get folks re-energized and re and and engaged or re-engaged
00:36:50.960 in the process of moving history uh in in the right in the right and more positive direction
00:36:58.640 do you see right now from the grassroots movement you've been a grassroots leader for i don't know 50
00:37:03.600 years uh or plus um and you you were there for president reagan you you've seen uh what we did
00:37:10.880 in the in the gingrich revolution in the uh in in the 90s you've seen obviously the beginning of the
00:37:17.360 trump movement um is your belief now and you see this parental rights come up with something that
00:37:24.240 people hadn't expected in there and it's one of the most important things we have going on
00:37:28.720 do you believe that we're winning right now or that we've got the fight in us to win i and let me say
00:37:36.240 i think we have the fight in us to win uh and um the one one of the things you i've said it on on your
00:37:45.200 show before but um that uncle that i talked about d heart hubbard was one of the founders of the american
00:37:51.840 negro baseball league and uh satchel page uh played on one of the teams not his cincinnati tigers but one
00:38:01.600 of the teams in napolis clowns that he was an investor in uh and so i grew up with you know uh
00:38:10.880 some of these great baseball players moving in and out of uh cincinnati and and my my uncle's presence and so
00:38:18.560 he and he was also a keeper of uh the witty witty remarks of satchel page and satchel page
00:38:26.400 was fond of saying it's it's damn difficult to steal second base if you want to keep one foot on first
00:38:34.160 you know and so you you have to have a risk orientation you have to have a risk to be free
00:38:43.280 you know one of the one of the the the outgrowths of the growth of statism is to make us you know less
00:38:54.320 risk uh oriented uh that we become complacent uh in in in being subjects not citizens uh and one of
00:39:04.400 the things that i've i've witnessed uh over the last two cycles even when we haven't won uh some of the
00:39:12.880 races that we we should have won we wanted to win uh some that uh were riddled with uh abnormalities
00:39:22.080 irregularities and out and out you know incompetence and theft is the ability to take a risk people are
00:39:31.280 becoming you know they're willing to take a risk to be free they're not they're not stuck with one
00:39:37.600 foot on first base people are making the break you know and and they're in and they're doing it again
00:39:44.000 using that principle of subsidiarity they're doing it at the local level you might not see the sweeping
00:39:49.920 changes you know but we we can't lose fact uh we can't lose track of the fact that we've seen
00:39:59.360 a a a positive movement at the township level uh on at on on school boards you know you have people now
00:40:08.960 challenging local health directors uh and and and so we we need to give amplification
00:40:15.840 uh to these voices to keep the momentum to keep the momentum going whether we were satisfied with
00:40:24.000 the margin we we we took the house back people understand and we're getting smart we're getting
00:40:31.760 smart because we we see the evil deeds of the opposition and i i will just tell you heritage
00:40:39.600 foundation and you you might have already had uh mike howell on but they just did a contractor i mean
00:40:48.640 we see the game plan i mean these guys are showing us that they're putting in our face and they're
00:40:55.840 daring us to push back yes but you know i i'll i'll just look one of my favorite professors of philosophy
00:41:05.920 was father ej o'connor and he was he was also the the the the chaplain of our football team now i want
00:41:14.720 to make sure you understand this because he was a great believer uh and and quite naturally in the
00:41:21.120 power of faith in god's word but you know i i remember he he he taught me and a jewish classmate who
00:41:30.720 was one of the few jewish students at xavier to the old golden glove matches with him at the cincinnati
00:41:38.240 gardens and about the 11th bout a young boy from the west side of cincinnati of irish catholic heritage
00:41:47.760 came out and before the before his bout he made the sign of the cross and benji who was jewish
00:41:53.120 asked father said father what's the significance of that he said son you know you come to class and
00:41:58.400 i'll teach you the significance of that from a theological point of view but let me just tell
00:42:02.000 you right now at that moment it doesn't mean enough if he can't fight and so that's what
00:42:10.640 so that's where we are you know we're embracing we're embracing our religion our faith uh but we
00:42:18.240 also are exhibiting human agency to fight back so great ken blackwell hang with us ken blackwell one
00:42:27.200 of the leaders of the conservative movement and uh one of the leaders of the trump movement thank
00:42:31.440 you very much take a short break we're going to be back here in about a minute or two back in the
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00:44:37.360 that night from the cross was true when the poor man came inside carrying with the new
00:44:52.800 okay uh we're back with ken but you know ken what i love and i think it's from the midwest you have
00:44:58.720 you've always had the ability it's lincoln-esque of always bringing in a a a um short story that gets
00:45:07.520 to the point you know lincoln was a master of that right to tell that story particularly in the middle
00:45:12.480 of heated discussions or in cabinet meetings to a short story that the punchline was about exactly what
00:45:19.840 they were talking about you you've got this very rare p i i know so many people in politics and in power
00:45:26.480 on wall street that is very rare it's one of the rare uh attributes that president lincoln had and
00:45:33.280 i gotta tell you of everybody i know in washington politics you are the only person i can say is
00:45:38.160 lincoln-esque in that regard that you always know the perfect story it doesn't not going to help him a
00:45:44.800 lot of me right now if he can't fight his his pure brilliance i'll laugh about that one a lot ken um
00:45:52.560 um and and going forward we got a couple of minutes here and going forward i want to make
00:45:57.040 sure people get access to you because you've um now become become an elder in this in this movement
00:46:05.360 and or someone i've always looked at as a mentor and someone i trust their judgment and discernment
00:46:10.400 and i want to make sure that people uh people get uh get full access to you into into your thinking
00:46:16.560 we talk about the groups we got a couple minutes the groups that you're spending most of your time with
00:46:21.520 where you're putting your effort and then how do people reach you and how do people get to you
00:46:26.240 yeah i'm i'm i chair the conservative action project uh and we've had you come in and and speak and
00:46:34.640 speak to us it's you know uh 120 conservative organizations and we we plot and plan and and debate uh
00:46:45.520 together uh the uh family research council is where i've spent the last 15 years looking at hard issues
00:46:54.240 around uh the preservation of the family uh and i work with some great warriors and tony perkins and
00:47:01.280 jerry boykin over there uh i am at the america uh first policy institute where i uh chair the center for
00:47:11.040 election integrity uh but you can find my and and again i i i i i put my head together with cleta uh
00:47:20.560 mitchell and hans forward heritage and our our great ceo uh there uh at the public interest legal
00:47:30.880 foundation christian adams is just an outstanding leader but so we we we we we keep our shoulders to the
00:47:37.600 uh to the wheel there but you can find me at uh kim blackwell uh uh at kim blackwell on on on getter and
00:47:47.520 um uh twitter uh you can find me on my public page at uh uh facebook at kim blackwell uh it's been
00:47:59.600 fascinating to me i've been stuck at about 110 uh 10 followers uh for about uh uh two years now so i
00:48:11.520 you're living example you're you're living example of that okay you're my old linebacker coaches always
00:48:18.400 tell me keep your feet moving and so i that's what i do
00:48:21.680 sir thank you so much uh merry christmas and have a great uh time during this uh this holiday season
00:48:30.560 you're a um you're a great um um not just a great warrior but someone that i think gives people uh
00:48:38.480 the kind of common sense they need now particularly this thing is that you've got to deal you've got to
00:48:43.520 work with what you've got at hand uh and you can't give up the fight if you give up the fight we're
00:48:47.440 going to lose the country it's that simple and we have small victories some days and some days
00:48:52.640 it's very cloudy and you're going to have defeats but you got to get up and pick yourself up
00:48:56.800 ken blackwell merry christmas thank you very much god bless you brother yes sir thank you
00:49:03.760 ken blackwell okay uh we're going to go out on uh as we always do on our specials or try to with
00:49:09.920 bing crosby the song written in the summer of 1941 before pearl harbor but really came known in the
00:49:15.760 summer and christmas 1942 white christmas bing crosby
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00:50:13.360 i'm dreaming of a white christmas
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