Bannon's War Room - January 03, 2023


Episode 2414： The Congress Cartel Are Being Exposed


Episode Stats

Length

53 minutes

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175.37753

Word Count

9,457

Sentence Count

679

Misogynist Sentences

6

Hate Speech Sentences

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Summary

After weeks of deal-making, House Republican leader Kevin McCarthy will find out today if his GOP colleagues will finally give him the speaker s gavel. But a small right-wing rebellion could keep him from claiming the gavel, and a group of more than a dozen conservatives have signaled their opposition.


Transcript

00:00:00.960 This is the primal scream of a dying regime.
00:00:05.880 Pray for our enemies, because we're going medieval on these people.
00:00:11.080 You're just not going to free shut all these networks lying about the people.
00:00:15.400 The people have had a belly full of it.
00:00:17.360 I know you don't like hearing that.
00:00:18.740 I know you've tried to do everything in the world to stop that,
00:00:20.500 but you're not going to stop it. It's going to happen.
00:00:22.700 And where do people like that go to share the big line?
00:00:26.120 Mega media.
00:00:27.020 I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.
00:00:32.880 Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?
00:00:36.660 If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.
00:00:42.940 War Room. Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.
00:00:50.600 Weeks of deal-making House Republican leader Kevin McCarthy will find out today
00:00:54.940 if his GOP colleagues will finally give him the speaker's gavel.
00:01:00.000 NBC News senior Capitol Hill correspondent Garrett Haake reports.
00:01:04.440 This morning, House Republicans on the verge of a vote
00:01:07.140 that will either make the GOP's Kevin McCarthy the next speaker or make history.
00:01:12.280 The Republican leader, nominated for the top job in November,
00:01:15.800 now has to win an outright majority in today's floor vote to earn it.
00:01:19.520 But a small right-wing rebellion could keep him from claiming the gavel.
00:01:23.860 Do you have to speak the votes for speaker tomorrow?
00:01:27.880 A group of more than a dozen conservatives have signaled their opposition to McCarthy.
00:01:33.400 In the narrowly divided House, just five Republicans could block his bid.
00:01:37.980 There's nothing he's done to earn my vote.
00:01:39.780 He's part of the swamp cartel.
00:01:41.620 If McCarthy falls short today, it would be just the first time in a century
00:01:45.380 that a speaker's vote went more than one ballot.
00:01:48.380 The House can't move on until a speaker is selected,
00:01:51.600 a potentially lengthy process frustrating many in the new Republican majority.
00:01:56.920 I hope we can come together and get focused on what we're going to do.
00:01:59.840 McCarthy's opponents demanding rules changes that would make it easier
00:02:03.100 to remove a speaker in the future and hoping to push the Californian to the right.
00:02:07.940 His allies say he's there.
00:02:09.860 It's time to come together.
00:02:11.200 Time for them to take the win because they've done a good job negotiating.
00:02:15.720 And it's time for us to be successful for the country.
00:02:18.700 Today, Republicans take control of the House for the first time since 2018,
00:02:23.440 planning an ambitious agenda targeting some Biden administration priorities
00:02:27.580 like expanded tax enforcement, as well as investigations
00:02:31.180 into the ongoing migrant surge at the border and the FBI.
00:02:35.540 None of that can start until someone is elected speaker.
00:02:39.020 We've got so much work behind us, and we need to start on the very first day.
00:02:43.000 And this is the Biden McCarthy finds himself.
00:02:45.680 And if he were to secure the number of votes,
00:02:47.680 there is it's going to be an unruly caucus, such a slim margin.
00:02:50.960 But now just hours for the vote.
00:02:52.980 He may have been just dealt another blow here.
00:02:55.640 Joe, the Congress of Scott Perry, head of the chairman of the Freedom Caucus,
00:03:00.380 just put out a statement a second ago about McCarthy.
00:03:03.580 I'll just read a little bit of it here.
00:03:04.840 He says in his 14 years of Republican leadership, McCarthy has repeatedly failed to demonstrate
00:03:09.720 any desire to meaningfully change the status quo in Washington.
00:03:13.560 He says McCarthy's 11th hour pitch to try to win these votes, to try to become speaker,
00:03:18.420 was a vague ultimatum, lacking in specifics and substance.
00:03:22.480 And Perry, in a lengthy statement going through what the Freedom Caucus wants to see from McCarthy,
00:03:26.640 he says McCarthy has let them down.
00:03:28.420 He closes this way, quote, Kevin McCarthy had an opportunity to be speaker of the House.
00:03:34.460 He rejected it.
00:03:36.080 So these are perhaps more votes that are not going to go McCarthy's way,
00:03:40.160 making his path to speakership that much more complicated now.
00:03:43.800 My question to you would be dealing with the party in power, which appears to be a chaotic party.
00:03:49.520 What do you hope, what do you think is possible in terms of getting something accomplished?
00:03:56.840 We certainly are seeing chaos today in Congress.
00:04:01.060 And this is an extension of the extremism that we have seen from the GOP.
00:04:07.400 When you have Marjorie Taylor Greene as your spokesperson, you know you're in for a rocky ride.
00:04:13.380 And the Democrats are united.
00:04:15.120 We are here to keep putting people over politics, to continue the work from the last session of finding solutions for people.
00:04:23.900 But we are watching this unfold with you and the American people.
00:04:29.120 And we don't know how this is going to end.
00:04:32.200 But I do know that Kevin McCarthy has thrown away his moral compass.
00:04:37.580 He will do anything to get that gavel in his hands.
00:04:40.540 And when you're willing to do that, you are no longer a leader.
00:04:44.620 And it is exactly why he finds himself in this situation.
00:04:48.200 It is Tuesday, 3 January, in the year of our Lord, 2023.
00:04:54.080 It is a historic day.
00:04:55.400 And we're doing the pregame at high noon on Capitol Hill in the House.
00:05:01.320 They're going to start the vote.
00:05:03.800 And so we've got pregame on that.
00:05:06.400 We're going to have people look.
00:05:07.400 It's going to be a little.
00:05:08.420 We're going to call a lot of audibles this morning as we're going to get people on phone and in and out of meetings.
00:05:15.480 And we're going to try to get as many on here as possible.
00:05:17.560 We may end up with nobody because it's pretty intense up there already starting at 9 o'clock.
00:05:22.120 I want to go to Russ Vogt, though, who's going to help put us into perspective.
00:05:26.500 Also, we have the Damar Hamlin situation from the University of Pittsburgh, Buffalo Bills safety, with this horrific incident last night on national television.
00:05:36.480 We're going to try to frame that and make sure that that is explained to everybody.
00:05:41.240 So we're going to have Dr. Maria Ryan on later.
00:05:43.680 Dr. McCullough is going to join us at 5 o'clock.
00:05:45.780 Hopefully, Dr. Malone and others are going to be on here.
00:05:49.420 So we're going to be in and out with all of these breaking developments.
00:05:54.120 Russ Vogt joins us.
00:05:55.020 A small right-wing rebellion, Russ Vogt.
00:05:59.060 And also that McCarthy lost his moral compass.
00:06:02.880 Did he ever have one, sir?
00:06:04.120 Well, I think the problem with Kevin McCarthy's candidacy from day one is that he was the cartel candidate, that he'd been here for 14, 15 years.
00:06:12.660 He's been in leadership since, I think, 2009.
00:06:14.820 And the degree to which, at that point, you've lost the ability to have any kind of paradigm-shifting change that will allow us to save the country.
00:06:23.680 And I think what the conservatives brought to him as late as last night was a set of reforms and expectations and commitments, both policy, procedural, and political, that would allow the cartel to change, even trying to negotiate with him.
00:06:40.440 And he rejected those.
00:06:41.500 So they gave him a path forward to the speakership, but what would it have required him to do would have required to him to reject the cartel?
00:06:50.320 And that is something that he could not do.
00:06:52.480 And I think that is the central aspect of what needs to be used with this leverage point.
00:06:57.760 And there's going to be a lot of noise today, and we'll unpack that.
00:07:00.480 But this is about do we have fundamental paradigm-shifting change in this country in the way that Washington works?
00:07:07.120 There's a leverage point for the conservative movement represented by House conservatives in the House of Representatives.
00:07:13.380 It needs to be seized, and so far they're seizing it.
00:07:17.080 I want to make sure everybody understands that you're going to hear this thing.
00:07:20.200 It's chaotic.
00:07:20.960 They don't know what they're doing.
00:07:22.220 The signal here is that this is going to the heart of the cartel system.
00:07:27.260 Remember, when we started doing this, we talked about it before the election, but when we started really focusing on it after the election, people were laughing at us.
00:07:35.360 And this was a complete joke.
00:07:37.640 McCarthy had it, and it was a lockdown, and you had to do this.
00:07:42.040 Hakeem Jeffries is going to take over.
00:07:43.720 We had Russ vote on here a few days after the midterms, and he laid out this concept, this intellectual construct of the cartel.
00:07:52.360 And people just go, this is just more whack job from the fever swamps of the far right.
00:07:56.680 And here we are within a couple of hours of actually voting, and Kevin McCarthy, just to do the math, there are five hard-nosed.
00:08:03.380 That's the Matt Gaetz, Rosendale, five of those with what Norman and a couple of others.
00:08:09.780 Then you've got this nine that Scott Perry represents that signed the letter.
00:08:13.520 Many of those are House Freedom Caucus or a couple are not.
00:08:15.580 I mean, you've got three really freshmen.
00:08:17.960 You've got Anna Paulina Luna.
00:08:19.500 You've got Andy Ogles.
00:08:20.560 You've got Eli Crane, who are all stepping up and being real heroes here.
00:08:23.400 Then you've got Boebert and a couple of the stragglers that need to see massive rules changes, including the motion to vacate, or they're not in.
00:08:32.360 This rounds up to 14, maybe as many as 18.
00:08:34.760 So Kevin McCarthy, from the time that he, even the last number of years, but even from post-midterms, Russ, had weeks and weeks and weeks, and it looks like the number gets bigger every day.
00:08:45.560 I want to go back to the construct that you laid out for people because everybody's picking it up now.
00:08:49.480 What is the cartel, and why was what Gates and others did to have a paradigm shift?
00:08:57.440 What is your definition?
00:08:58.240 What's the cartel, and what's your definition of a paradigm shift as people look today and watch this?
00:09:03.840 Yeah, the cartel is kind of the bipartisan uniparty, both in government and out of government, both nonprofits, off the hill, on the hill.
00:09:13.980 The leaders that try to make decisions, K Street's a part of it, what they do is they want power to be exercised behind closed doors, not on the floor of the House and the Senate.
00:09:26.620 They want massive opportunity to write the bills as they see fit in the administrative agencies.
00:09:32.620 So it's a part of the administrative state as well.
00:09:34.780 And what they do is they look, that's where power is exercised and wielded, but then they use these leverage points that they have to constitutionally to then pile drive the result into law.
00:09:48.400 So that's the omnibus bill.
00:09:49.700 The omnibus bill is cartel governing.
00:09:52.740 Anytime you have a conference meeting, Republican conference meeting, where these decisions are made, apparently, that is cartel governing.
00:10:00.080 And so where's the real vote?
00:10:02.080 The real vote's not behind closed doors.
00:10:05.080 Constitutionally, the real vote is on the floor of the House.
00:10:07.860 And we have an opportunity today where the real vote happens, and often the leverage is on the House or the floor.
00:10:14.620 The cartel has just convinced members that you can't ever use that because it's too chaotic.
00:10:18.920 But you know what?
00:10:19.460 We're not going to save the country without a little bit of risk and a little bit allowing these things to play out before the American people.
00:10:27.560 It will not be chaotic.
00:10:28.820 It will be how the founders intended these situations to work, and it will proceed along the lines of how House conservatives decide to dictate it based on who comes to the table and is willing to have paradigm-shifting change in this country.
00:10:45.560 And so I want to go – it's about – and McCarthy put out this proposal the other day and signed it on Saturday.
00:10:52.880 This is a two-front piece.
00:10:54.520 One is about the rules and actually how you govern and how you break the cartel.
00:10:58.900 The second part is actually the content.
00:11:00.740 And I want to make sure everybody understands.
00:11:03.840 When you're hearing all the spin today, and even from Conservative Inc., and particularly from Fox, and we'll play Kilmeade's tirade in the B Block about this.
00:11:12.940 It's chaos.
00:11:13.580 You're giving all this up.
00:11:15.740 There's actually a strong signal here.
00:11:17.300 We've got to break up the way this government – you're just going to have more omnibus.
00:11:20.300 You're just going to continue on.
00:11:21.260 There's three aspects of it, the administrative state, this leviathan that's been created that has to be taken down and taken apart, both the biomedical part of it, the national security part of it, just the welfare state part of it.
00:11:32.840 All of that has to be taken apart.
00:11:34.560 Then you have the – what I call the fiscal domination, where they just pass these bills that cannot possibly be funded.
00:11:40.360 And they go, oh, yeah, we're going to have a 10 percent increase in defense spending.
00:11:43.140 We'll give you a 7 percent increase in social welfare spending, the fiscal domination.
00:11:46.960 And then it's the Fed just continuing to print money.
00:11:49.160 Russ, before we go to break, we've got a couple minutes, but I want you to walk through the audience because this is the fog of war right now.
00:11:56.680 Why whatever outcome happens today, this is a massive victory for the right, even to be at this place and particularly to have these rules.
00:12:04.480 We just had the House – we had the Club for Growth just come in, which is oftentimes opposite of MAGA, sometimes with MAGA, but they came in and 100 percent supported Scott Perry and the House Freedom Caucuses and Matt Gaetz's rule changes.
00:12:17.440 So walk us through why this is a victory today for us and what are those key attributes of this victory.
00:12:23.260 So if I was one of those members going to talk to Kevin McCarthy, I would be in a – I'm not voting for you because I think that you represent the cartel and we've got to start the negotiations with your successor.
00:12:33.560 That said, even if they had accepted something based on what their final offer was, it would have been a massive victory versus where we were because they were saying we need three members or four members hard who are conservatives on the rules committee.
00:12:50.760 And that's the kind of thing that breaks the cartel open.
00:12:54.060 When you control the floor, you control the cartel.
00:12:57.220 That's what this is procedurally about.
00:12:59.160 It's not just about can you offer your amendment.
00:13:01.420 It is a lot of that.
00:13:02.820 But this is about the rules committee procedurally.
00:13:05.940 Politically, it's don't go after members like Mary Miller in primaries.
00:13:09.620 You try to say that you're representing all members, then you won't – you represent all members and you don't sick your leadership fund after Mary Miller and make her raise a gazillion dollars to have to fend off a moderate member within the conference.
00:13:23.440 So there's all sorts of what this looks like.
00:13:27.000 That – and that's if they had agreed to something last night.
00:13:29.700 He wasn't willing to do it.
00:13:30.760 But now they're headed into the real high-stakes game on the floor, and I expect this to go for a number of votes.
00:13:38.880 I expect McCarthy to really try to try to break the conservatives and expect that conservative Inc. will come to the rescue.
00:13:46.160 And I think there's going to be a situation where we either get a speaker who has a desire to change the paradigm, and there are people like a Jim Jordan and Kevin Hearn.
00:13:57.080 They will not come forward unless Kevin McCarthy is out.
00:14:01.520 And so this whole notion of do you have your own candidate, it is a total shiny object to the conversation.
00:14:08.400 And it's – anyone who says that is pushing a line on behalf of Kevin McCarthy's team.
00:14:15.880 Okay, Russ, hang on.
00:14:17.060 We're going to keep Russ from part of the B block here.
00:14:19.320 We've got a lot to go through about the tactics of all of it.
00:14:22.340 Russ is 100 percent correct.
00:14:23.520 At 9 o'clock, what he had as Perry, he wanted the House Freedom Caucus to present to the entire country.
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00:15:34.220 He won't do anything on the border.
00:15:35.680 He's not doing anything with under Biden.
00:15:37.820 He's not going to do anything to go really in spending.
00:15:40.340 None of this is true.
00:15:41.320 So it's almost as if they're debating things that are their egos, nothing to do with America.
00:15:47.140 I'm not even talking about Republicans.
00:15:48.640 Republicans are Democrats.
00:15:49.980 They can't grab onto anything except for, I guess they want to get a little bit more notoriety in their lives.
00:15:56.780 You're going to see Fox.
00:15:57.960 One of the big aspects of yesterday was that Fox ran, you know, McCarthy reached out to Newt.
00:16:03.960 You had Newt on.
00:16:04.960 He's loving being relevant again.
00:16:07.340 You had Karl Rove.
00:16:08.280 I want this audience to understand that that backfired.
00:16:11.360 The Murdochs are in complete freakout mode.
00:16:13.580 Remember, Paul Ryan sits on the board of News Corp and Fox News, and their selection is McCarthy.
00:16:23.220 That is the corporatist media-controlled opposition.
00:16:26.260 They are in complete panic mode, have been, since Sunday morning on Fox & Friends when the young host went after Matt Rosendale from Montana.
00:16:38.120 And they've had Newt on there, and they're saying the five, the hard five, are psychopaths and pathological and, you know, the worst people in the world.
00:16:48.080 It's all about their egos.
00:16:49.000 Nothing could be farther from the truth.
00:16:51.600 But here's the thing that happened yesterday, and this goes back to when I was running Breitbart in 15, when Megyn Kelly came and tried to kneecap Trump in that first debate.
00:17:00.660 And we came in hard on Megyn Kelly.
00:17:02.400 I mean, they did a whole PBS special years afterwards of which, you know, she had the big salt, you know, big crocodile tears, how bad it was.
00:17:08.800 Because, yeah, we went after Fox and backed him off, said, you're not going to go do a drive-by on Trump from his, you know, Facebook account and Twitter account from years ago.
00:17:20.260 Same thing's happened here in the last 72 hours.
00:17:22.480 They have come in hard, and it's backfired.
00:17:24.980 My understanding is that the calls are coming in 99 to 1, even in modest – because remember, even in these, quote-unquote, moderate districts, two-thirds of the base of the vote are MAGA.
00:17:34.180 They can't lose the MAGA vote at all.
00:17:36.400 You have tremendous power.
00:17:37.380 This whole thing, by the way, is about this audience.
00:17:39.720 It's about MAGA and the deplorables.
00:17:42.360 They don't want you to have any say-so in what goes on.
00:17:44.760 They want you to pat you on the head and go away.
00:17:46.560 We're going to run things like the cartel likes to run them.
00:17:50.920 So, Ross, they started in the morning with McCarthy's big move this morning.
00:17:56.720 It was to make Scott Perry stand up there at 9 o'clock and present the list of demands, which they rejected.
00:18:01.700 And here's what happened.
00:18:03.580 I am told that last night in that meeting, the reason was so short.
00:18:06.920 They went through the rules changes.
00:18:08.820 They went through what they wanted on committees.
00:18:11.140 They went through all the other things they talked about, death scene and things like that.
00:18:13.720 But it was really about rules and about structure.
00:18:16.300 And McCarthy's response was, well, hey, why don't I just make you guys speaker?
00:18:20.220 Because if I do that, I'm speaker.
00:18:22.320 Your concept of, hey, last night was the time to make the deal.
00:18:25.460 If it's not, what you want to do is what they should focus on is dealing with his successor or potential successor.
00:18:31.600 That it's over with him.
00:18:32.800 He's had his shot, et cetera.
00:18:34.380 Walk me through the tactics of the day.
00:18:36.060 And how do you believe?
00:18:37.060 Walk the audience through how you think this is going to play out.
00:18:38.920 Well, today, this morning, what they're doing is these conference meetings.
00:18:42.740 And just to give the audience a little bit of a feel for it, these are the most cramped rooms that they get the team.
00:18:48.460 They try to make it like a locker room where the big coaches come in front of you and rah, rah, rah.
00:18:52.880 And they give you a standing ovation, leaks out to Twitter.
00:18:56.660 All of that is by design.
00:18:58.580 It's going to be a pressure cooker today.
00:19:00.300 They like to put the member's head in a vice grip and start to turn it and build the pressure throughout the day.
00:19:05.900 And that's what Kevin McCarthy seems to be wanting to do on the floor of the House.
00:19:10.160 They're going to lose a first vote.
00:19:11.740 They're going to lose a second vote.
00:19:13.100 He's going to keep going throughout the day.
00:19:15.420 And he's going to try to do this on the floor of the House.
00:19:17.880 And I say, great.
00:19:19.480 Do it on the floor of the House.
00:19:20.720 You know why?
00:19:21.180 Because that's the end of a cartel government.
00:19:23.180 And every opportunity to be able to win this debate, to explain to the American people what this debate is about throughout this day into tomorrow.
00:19:33.260 I think that I've been through three of these.
00:19:35.480 I've never seen the size and the commitment of the members publicly on day one heading into a vote as I do this morning.
00:19:44.440 And so I think we're going to see that.
00:19:45.700 I can't tell you how the day is going to go beyond that.
00:19:48.300 But I think that this is going to be something where there are multiple votes, and I think you're going to have an ongoing debate in this country about how the cartel, is it going to go away?
00:19:59.000 Or are we going to be able to change and have true structural reforms procedurally, politically, and policy?
00:20:08.720 Let me go back to that because my understanding, particularly after the onslaught of calls, and people should understand, you should get your – and we'll put the number up.
00:20:18.300 In the next segment of the call to house to make sure that your voice is heard because, trust me, they're listening because I heard there's a lot of people who said, hey, look, I'm with you for the first round, but I can't hang in there too long because I'm getting blown up back home.
00:20:29.300 It's going 99 to 1 against McCarthy, right?
00:20:32.340 People are just saying it's got to be a change.
00:20:34.120 We have to have a change.
00:20:36.260 I have said after the first vote, and let's say the 14 to 18 hang in there, that means McCarthy barely got over 200, right?
00:20:42.460 That is a shocking and stunning number.
00:20:44.480 This is your third rodeo.
00:20:45.720 You're saying you've never seen a consolidated anti-speaker vote for this.
00:20:50.680 There's two options they have then.
00:20:52.680 The option is to get off the floor and go in back to the locker room and fight it out there, bleed it out there, or continue to vote, right?
00:21:01.420 I'm a big advocate of getting to the locker room and bleed it out there.
00:21:05.420 You're saying you like the multiple votes because it will be up there as the cartel is trying to put pressure.
00:21:11.860 You're actually going to see who stands and delivers and who craters.
00:21:15.180 Do you think that McCarthy gets any stronger in a second or third ballot if it happens in succession?
00:21:21.960 I think that he may, at the margins of one or two members, get slightly stronger, but the fundamentals will not help him on the floor.
00:21:31.160 And this is what we've been saying on this program about the fundamentals from day one.
00:21:35.320 The fundamentals are about the member and the voter.
00:21:37.860 And the member has to stand up and say the words Kevin McCarthy after Andy Biggs has already gone and said Andy Biggs or Jim Jordan or someone else.
00:21:49.780 They don't have the ability to explain that to their voters fundamentally.
00:21:54.240 And so you're going to keep them on the floor of the House.
00:21:56.640 You're going to keep them away from all of the fake news and conservative ink that's providing air cover to the American people.
00:22:03.180 I don't think it's going to be something that strategically helps him in the way that he thinks it does.
00:22:09.800 It's a show of force, but I think in of itself it's going to show how weak he is.
00:22:14.380 This will go back to the locker room at some point, and they've got to sleep.
00:22:19.320 They're not going to go through.
00:22:20.300 I don't foresee them not sleeping, but maybe they do.
00:22:25.400 But this will have to go behind closed doors at some point,
00:22:28.540 and there will be a debate when someone realizes that Kevin McCarthy is out and they're going to want to go for it,
00:22:34.000 and they're going to want to go and rally around paradigm-shifting changes, the rules committee.
00:22:38.920 Who controls the rules committee?
00:22:40.340 Does the American people control the rules committee, or does the speaker?
00:22:44.000 And I think those are the kinds of debates that will happen as we go forward throughout the day and beyond.
00:22:48.800 I've heard people close to this situation say that Kevin McCarthy said that if it gets forced off,
00:22:54.640 they go back into the locker room, he'll know it's over, and he will resign actually from Congress.
00:22:59.880 He won't even be part of this.
00:23:00.920 He'll just say, I'm out, and he'll take it from there.
00:23:04.180 That the moment that it goes back into the locker room, that's why I think they're determined.
00:23:09.100 They're determined to stay on the floor and keep voting.
00:23:12.480 The media, people have to understand, because this is going to be fog of war today.
00:23:15.300 The media, and particularly MSNBC, CNN, the New York Times, Twitter, is going to be all over the radicalness,
00:23:23.140 the extremism, the chaos, that this is not what America needs because tomorrow, remember, nothing happens randomly.
00:23:30.200 This is why Biden's up with Mitch McConnell.
00:23:32.360 The cartel is going to be in Kentucky tomorrow rubbing up on each other, right, saying how this bipartisanship,
00:23:38.360 the Uniparty, is going to say, oh, this is the salve for the scars that are left today, Russ Vogt.
00:23:50.180 Yeah, and I would say just an end point on that.
00:23:52.900 They're starting to, you're getting some from the Twitter reporters who are saying, you know,
00:23:57.100 this is about Kevin McCarthy finally throwing down with the grassroots on the floor in a way,
00:24:02.980 in a fight that's been brewing for 12 years.
00:24:04.760 Well, think about their framing, they're coming now to the battlefield in the way that recognizes
00:24:10.580 that what we've been saying, this is about the cartel versus the American people.
00:24:15.820 Are we going to have that battle, or are we going to listen to the noise of conservative ink?
00:24:20.280 That's what today is about.
00:24:21.640 The members that I'm talking to are not going to listen to that noise.
00:24:24.560 They're ready for battle.
00:24:25.860 Let's see how the day plays out.
00:24:27.980 But, Russ, that's not a random, that's 12 years as the Tea Party revolt of 2010.
00:24:32.120 Actually, the people putting that up there is absolutely, that's correct.
00:24:35.480 That's what this really boils down to, is the MAGA movement, the grassroots, the populist movement,
00:24:40.180 the Tea Party movement in a fight with the cartel.
00:24:43.320 I mean, they're absolutely correct.
00:24:44.400 That's a throwdown.
00:24:45.120 And McCarthy started the day in the conference to say, okay, tough guy, stand up here and show,
00:24:49.940 I want the moderates, the Fred Uptons of the world and these guys to hear exactly how extremist you are,
00:24:54.780 how you really do want to take part of the process.
00:24:56.900 So Twitter right there is absolutely correct.
00:24:58.700 This fight has been brewing since the Tea Party revolt of 2010, of which, as you know,
00:25:04.540 they compromised so many of those great Tea Party guys, that 63 people that won, right?
00:25:10.220 The cartel sucked them in right away.
00:25:12.580 This fight has been brewing for 12 years, has it not, Russ Vogt?
00:25:16.200 It has.
00:25:17.260 And it comes down to today when we have leverage points.
00:25:21.140 The American people have leverage on the cartel.
00:25:24.700 Will it be used?
00:25:25.580 Russ, how can people follow you during the day?
00:25:30.420 Because this is going to be historic.
00:25:34.020 So how do people follow you?
00:25:35.080 How do they get to your great centers doing so much work?
00:25:36.960 We'll get you back on.
00:25:37.720 We've got to talk debt ceiling and spending and all that.
00:25:40.880 But that's for another day.
00:25:41.800 How do people follow you today in the heat of battle?
00:25:44.860 On all the social media channels, it's at RussVote and AmericaRenewing.com.
00:25:50.920 We'd love to be able to inform and educate you there.
00:25:53.600 People should understand that we would have never gotten to this place if it had not been
00:26:00.460 for Russ Vogt and his team.
00:26:02.280 Behind the scenes, the framing of this, the work that went on, the analysis that went on,
00:26:06.720 this is, there's a, you see the actors in the front in this kind of Shakespearean drama.
00:26:10.600 But there are many hoplites in the back.
00:26:13.800 And one of the leaders of this movement is Russ Vogt.
00:26:16.400 And what your center has done, Russ, has been historic against all odds.
00:26:19.800 I mean, you were, we were mocked and ridiculed.
00:26:23.420 And you particularly, when this thing first started, McCarthy's got this in a slam dunk.
00:26:27.480 It'll be quick and dirty.
00:26:28.420 Well, that is not the case.
00:26:29.460 It's 12 years of kind of anger and resentment and actually knowing what the American people
00:26:34.800 need and what the country needs comes to the front today.
00:26:37.720 So, Russ, thank you so much.
00:26:39.340 Honored to have you on here and just great work.
00:26:41.880 Same here.
00:26:42.220 Thank you, Steve.
00:26:42.700 Okay, so it all begins.
00:26:47.340 And so we're going to have Mike Davis is going to join us.
00:26:50.260 MTG is going to join us.
00:26:51.640 MTG is going to make her closing argument right before they walk onto the floor of why
00:26:55.880 she is a supporter for Kevin McCarthy.
00:26:57.860 And I understand many of the folks in this audience that love her are outraged about this.
00:27:02.960 She's going to make a closing argument.
00:27:05.120 Hopefully, we're going to try to do this.
00:27:07.060 We're also going to try to get some of the other folks to get their arguments in here.
00:27:10.540 We're going to shift, also talk about this horrific incident last night in Cincinnati
00:27:15.640 in the Buffalo Bills-Cincinnate Bengals game with Damar Hamlin.
00:27:21.320 Short commercial break.
00:27:22.520 We're going to be back, strap in.
00:27:24.380 It's a historic day.
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00:28:23.680 Here's your host, Stephen K. Vann.
00:28:27.820 Okay, the signal, not the noise, is that the Twitterverse is actually correct.
00:28:32.840 This is 12 years of bad blood coming forth today.
00:28:36.820 And this is all started about the Tea Party revolt in 2010 and what has happened, the Trump
00:28:42.080 movement, this rise of the populist nationalist right against the cartel, against the way things
00:28:47.840 are.
00:28:48.040 You're going to be overwhelmed today, and particularly on Fox News, you're going to be overwhelmed
00:28:51.860 today that this is terrible, this is chaotic, this is all of it.
00:28:55.200 That is nothing but controlled opposition.
00:28:57.260 If you want to make the changes, and you have to understand, we just passed a $1.7 trillion
00:29:03.560 in spending, if you add the financing charges, over $2 trillion that we don't have the money
00:29:07.860 to do.
00:29:08.580 And not just that, it's structurally so awful, but it's also embedded with basically financing
00:29:13.880 your own demise.
00:29:14.840 This is the managed decline of our country manifested in the spending.
00:29:18.860 If you want to take that apart, if you want to get into it, you're going to have to break
00:29:22.360 some furniture.
00:29:22.980 You're just going to have to.
00:29:24.100 That's what today's about.
00:29:25.840 And we're going to be covering this nonstop.
00:29:27.980 Mike Davis is going to join us.
00:29:29.340 MTG is going to join us.
00:29:30.420 Hopefully, some of the contestants here that are standing up are going to join us also as
00:29:37.180 they're in and out of meetings to get ready for the 12 noon vote.
00:29:41.400 I want to go to, by the way, the number is 202-225-3121.
00:29:47.300 Please take the time this morning, even during the broadcast, to make sure that you have your
00:29:51.520 voice heard of what you want to see happen on Capitol Hill today.
00:29:54.840 I can tell you from yesterday that they were shocked and stunned on a day off that a lot
00:29:59.740 of these things just went to voicemail.
00:30:01.020 But the local office is about the amount of, how do I say, not anger, but focus by the
00:30:09.180 war room cadre and posse, and particularly Fox News running these Karl Rove and Newt Gingrich
00:30:15.740 pieces that this is terrible, these people are pathological, it's all about their own egos.
00:30:20.280 The American people, the MAGA movement is letting people know, no, no, no, no, it's not just
00:30:25.620 Gates and these guys, it's not just Scott Perry and the House Freedom Caucus, it's not
00:30:28.580 just Boebert, this is us, and we want to have a say-so.
00:30:32.040 So a huge throwdown today.
00:30:34.160 We're going to be covering it nonstop.
00:30:35.380 We're back, also going to be here live five to seven tonight as this keeps rolling, whether
00:30:39.500 there's going to be multiple votes, whether they're going to be in a conference, we'll figure
00:30:42.460 it all out.
00:30:43.680 202-225-3121.
00:30:46.660 Remember, this is about you.
00:30:48.620 When they say it's the 12 years, it's about the Tea Party.
00:30:50.680 Remember, after the Tea Party, we won the 63 seats, and people say, you know, well, you
00:30:55.580 only won 10 seats.
00:30:56.480 Remember, back in the Gingrich Revolution in 1994, and again in the Tea Party Revolt in
00:31:02.540 2010, the base of members we had was about 174, 175.
00:31:07.020 So those huge wins, historic wins, only got us up to basically the numbers, just above
00:31:12.740 the numbers you had today.
00:31:14.280 So remember, Nancy Pelosi ruled with an iron fist with a majority this big.
00:31:20.240 So it can be done.
00:31:21.740 This has nothing to do with that.
00:31:23.160 That's all noise and smoke.
00:31:25.380 This has to do with cartel.
00:31:26.960 This has to do with how you got to the omnibus bill, right?
00:31:30.260 Because McCarthy's guys knew what was going on.
00:31:32.100 This is about breaking the cartel, that interlocking lobbyist, corporatist, donor, and the uniparty
00:31:40.680 in the foreground.
00:31:41.440 Exactly what you're going to see tomorrow with the Republican collaborationists that are going
00:31:46.220 to be in Kentucky, represented by Mitch McConnell.
00:31:48.780 They got you the Recovery Act.
00:31:50.500 They got you the infrastructure bill.
00:31:51.860 They got you the marriage bill.
00:31:54.240 They got you the mini Build Back Better bill.
00:31:57.340 And it got you this omnibus.
00:31:59.140 So it's basically, I don't know, counted up $4 to $8 trillion, however you counted up.
00:32:03.100 Things that are unfunded that you have to print money on, right?
00:32:07.140 This is over and above everything else.
00:32:08.900 So we're going to get to that.
00:32:10.240 Now, last night, I got Dr. Maria Ryan, but I want to, let me, I'll tell you what, here's
00:32:15.540 what I want to do.
00:32:16.040 Dr. Maria, come in.
00:32:17.180 I want to give your bona fides first, particularly about this type of medicine.
00:32:21.240 You're a PhD, but I want to give your bona fides in this.
00:32:24.300 And then I want to play a cold open clip and then bring you back to assess it.
00:32:28.200 So what is your expertise in this area about what happened last night, this horrific incident
00:32:33.200 in Cincinnati, ma'am?
00:32:36.240 So I am a board-certified nurse practitioner.
00:32:39.540 I've provided emergency medicine for many decades.
00:32:43.460 I've also had a PhD in healthcare administration and was a former CEO.
00:32:49.100 So, and the minute I-
00:32:52.100 Yeah, you're CEO, you manage these hospitals and particularly in rural areas, but you know
00:32:58.700 what goes on.
00:32:59.300 Let's play the cold open.
00:33:00.240 Then I want to bring you back for your assessment because there's a lot of speculation running
00:33:03.180 around about exactly what happened here.
00:33:05.840 Well, it's very emotional to watch.
00:33:08.000 First of all, you and I was at the hospital yesterday and everyone was talking about this.
00:33:11.900 And that was the suspicion at that time that somehow he had suffered some sort of cardiac
00:33:17.180 arrest on the field and that it was due to this sudden blow to the chest, commodio cortis,
00:33:24.080 as it's called, which is a really rare situation.
00:33:27.780 I mean, this is something that you hear about maybe a couple of dozen times a year and not
00:33:32.220 typically in football, but more as you see there on the screen, sports like baseball, where
00:33:37.140 you get a small projectile that travels at a high rate of speed, hits the chest at the
00:33:42.960 right spot at the wrong time, essentially, and causes the heart to go into this abnormal
00:33:49.760 heart rhythm here.
00:33:51.000 I'll just show you on a model here.
00:33:53.060 You think about the chest wall and then the projectile or the blow coming to the heart at
00:33:59.900 that exact time when the heart is beating in a very particular way.
00:34:02.920 Um, and that causes the heart to go into this abnormal heart rhythm known as ventricular
00:34:07.600 fibrillation.
00:34:09.760 Okay.
00:34:10.340 Uh, so Dr. Ryan and we're going to have Peter McCullough on tonight cause he had commentary
00:34:14.060 last night about this.
00:34:14.980 There's a huge, this kind of firestorm.
00:34:17.660 Is this related to the VAX or whatever?
00:34:20.100 Is it commotio cortis, commotio cortis?
00:34:23.680 Walk us through what they're talking about.
00:34:25.340 The two different elements here, either the, the heart rhythm issue, or is this a side effect
00:34:31.220 from the VAX, ma'am?
00:34:32.920 He did suffer from sudden death syndrome and under sudden death syndrome is an umbrella
00:34:40.740 of different diagnosis.
00:34:42.820 As a provider, we treat right away what's wrong.
00:34:47.480 He didn't have a pulse and he didn't, he wasn't breathing.
00:34:50.900 So he was dead.
00:34:52.800 We know that most of the time when somebody has sudden death syndrome, it is due to a chaotic
00:34:59.180 lethal arrhythmia called ventricular fibrillation.
00:35:02.420 So what you need to do is get a defibrillator immediately.
00:35:07.000 You start CPR until you get that defibrillator and you shock.
00:35:12.160 That is what's going to save somebody's life is to get that really chaotic rhythm removed
00:35:21.040 and you become, you know, start having a pulse and start to, to breathe.
00:35:26.440 Now, under sudden death syndrome is, is like I said, a multitude of different things could
00:35:32.500 be going on.
00:35:33.400 You need to assess whether the person had myocarditis.
00:35:38.140 Oh, hang on, hang on, hang on.
00:35:40.140 Don't get ahead of the wagon train here.
00:35:42.000 I want to go back to the incident itself because this is why they, they give it the, the, what
00:35:47.200 happened because I think for people who've watched football for years, I don't ever remember
00:35:51.480 an ambulance actually coming on the field, what, what actually happened to get the heart
00:35:55.320 going again and the CPR, there was equipment there and technicians there that knew what
00:36:00.220 were going on, which saved his life, uh, at the time.
00:36:04.180 Walk us through exactly what happened and why this equipment, why this equipment and you
00:36:07.900 need people to know how to use it and you need this equipment there for a situation like
00:36:11.800 this.
00:36:12.740 I'm at, I'm actually glad you brought this out.
00:36:15.420 So in an emergency department, if somebody came in not breathing, not having a pulse, I
00:36:21.320 can read the rhythm on the monitor and I know what to do besides CPR.
00:36:26.060 If it's a systole, I'll give certain medications, but if it's ventricular fibrillation, I will
00:36:32.140 defibrillate.
00:36:33.680 Most people cannot read a rhythm.
00:36:35.960 Not every doctor can, not every nurse practitioner can.
00:36:39.480 So there is something called an AED, an automatic electrical or external defibrillation in lay people
00:36:48.460 can use it.
00:36:49.360 Actually, there are, um, places that you can hit something to open it at the airport.
00:36:55.320 So what happened with, uh, Damar Hamlin was sudden death.
00:37:00.340 They immediately realized no pulse, no breathing CPR.
00:37:04.900 They got that AED.
00:37:06.640 So the, right when you put on this defibrillator, it'll say, put the pads on the chest, one on
00:37:16.260 the front, one on the back.
00:37:18.140 So it takes you all through it.
00:37:20.940 And then it'll say, it reads the rhythm and it'll say shock advised, press this button.
00:37:27.500 It says all clear, boom, you get a defibrillation.
00:37:32.500 You want to shock that chaotic, lethal arrhythmia, so it actually goes into asystole, flatline for
00:37:40.760 a minute and start normal.
00:37:42.800 It's not always successful.
00:37:44.480 You got to keep on different ways.
00:37:46.360 So explain to the audience last night, this is what, when the players were around him on
00:37:50.620 the field, he was getting both AED and CPR.
00:37:54.060 Walk us through the process that actually saved his life on the field.
00:37:57.640 Correct.
00:37:58.900 The thing, even beyond CPR, Steve, was the defibrillation.
00:38:04.780 We've watched this in healthcare for a long time.
00:38:07.620 Before we had AEDs posted everywhere, people who experienced sudden death syndrome, their
00:38:14.240 mortality was very low.
00:38:16.700 But through the years, it kept going up and up and up.
00:38:19.820 If you have immediate defibrillation within the third, three minutes, you know, every
00:38:25.860 time, the longer it takes to defibrillate, the less you're going to survive.
00:38:30.800 It's about 58% now of survival.
00:38:34.180 They did do a good job.
00:38:36.080 They got quickly to him.
00:38:38.220 They defibrillated for him.
00:38:40.580 Um, and one thing, the humanity is the, those people surrounded him to have his dignity,
00:38:48.960 to not see what they were doing to him.
00:38:51.500 And they were in prayer.
00:38:52.900 And that really meant everything is the humanity.
00:38:57.420 But the, but the, but these first responders that were there for the national football league
00:39:01.540 or for the stadium of the Cincinnati Bengals are incredibly well-trained.
00:39:05.300 You've got, because the injuries you can get in football are pretty horrific.
00:39:08.000 I mean, these are first tier, first responders that know how to use the equipment and immediately,
00:39:13.560 and if they had not immediately gone into action, it might've turned out very differently,
00:39:17.240 right?
00:39:17.540 This is not something that I've got to read the instructions.
00:39:20.020 These, these are highly trained emergency personnel, correct?
00:39:24.640 Clearly, but they did use an AED.
00:39:27.720 Um, so they put the machine, the pads on Damar and the machine did read the rhythm in advised
00:39:36.280 shock.
00:39:37.100 So that is why he was successfully, um, resuscitated, but he is still in critical condition.
00:39:45.840 And then, but hang on, but hang on, before, but hang on, before we got there for people
00:39:50.720 to watch a lot of football.
00:39:52.580 And, um, this was not a particularly brutal hit.
00:39:56.120 I mean, this was a pretty standard, maybe to the upper scale.
00:39:59.180 So walk and he's, he's padded.
00:40:01.000 He's got the shoulder pads down to come down and protect the chest.
00:40:03.440 That's what the pads do walk people through how do you, because we understand this is
00:40:08.720 a very rare occurrence in sports.
00:40:11.160 Normally with what doctor, uh, uh, the doctor on CNN was saying was that it's a baseball
00:40:17.080 normally hit in the chest or, or, or something like that.
00:40:20.340 How rare is this to happen?
00:40:22.200 And could this just been caused by the hit that, that you saw, or was there something
00:40:28.540 wrong with the heart to start with?
00:40:29.920 We call this differential diagnosis.
00:40:33.700 We don't really know if it was from the hit.
00:40:36.120 He did have a hit to the chest in the pre-cordial area.
00:40:41.320 So this usually happens with more like a projectile in baseball or hockey.
00:40:47.200 It's very rare.
00:40:48.780 Average age is 15.
00:40:50.860 And the reason is the chest is still thin.
00:40:53.760 As you get older, you get bulked up and you have a thicker chest wall.
00:40:57.740 But it could happen.
00:41:00.120 We did see that he was hit with the helmet of the opponent.
00:41:05.400 And if it happens during a particular electrical process in the heart called, I don't want
00:41:12.560 to get too technical, but it's R and T phenomenon.
00:41:16.440 It will stop a normal rhythm and make it a chaotic rhythm.
00:41:22.160 That's lethal.
00:41:24.000 And the minute he stood up and walked back, I said, he's sudden death.
00:41:30.140 I don't know if it's necessarily commotial cordis, which is the rare phenomenon that everybody's
00:41:38.320 talking about.
00:41:38.980 It could.
00:41:39.420 It could.
00:41:40.320 It could be having an electrical disturbance that came out of the blue.
00:41:45.760 Oh, yeah.
00:41:46.760 Hang on one second.
00:41:47.800 We're going to take a break.
00:41:48.460 I want to come back and define those two terms so people understand today.
00:41:52.240 This is going to be another massive topic.
00:41:55.300 And we're also going to talk, was it a vax side effect?
00:41:59.160 Charlie Kirk even brought that up last night.
00:42:00.900 I thought very appropriately.
00:42:02.220 And of course, they're all over him for being a barbarian, right?
00:42:05.160 Short commercial break.
00:42:06.120 Dr. Maria Ryan.
00:42:07.200 We've got Steve Stern from the grassroots.
00:42:09.080 Mike Davis, MTG.
00:42:10.500 We're jammed up today, but it's a historic day in the pregame for the big vote for the
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00:44:23.040 I want to go back to Dr. Maria Ryan.
00:44:25.760 So, what is it?
00:44:27.700 Commotio, cortis?
00:44:29.160 What is that?
00:44:29.940 And why is that a concept people should understand in this context, ma'am?
00:44:34.080 It is when there is a hit, a force of, whether it's a baseball to the chest in the precordial area, or a hockey puck.
00:44:46.700 It is rarely, I'm going to have to look up, this may be the only time in a football.
00:44:51.820 So, it's one of many differential diagnoses to see why he had sudden death syndrome.
00:44:58.840 But right now, because he was hit, it's looking like, but not 100%, that this is what it is, is commotio, cortis.
00:45:09.160 Is that a subset of what you just called sudden death syndrome?
00:45:14.880 Correct.
00:45:15.160 It's an umbrella.
00:45:16.520 So, there's a number of different verticals underneath this.
00:45:18.980 This is one of the verticals, correct?
00:45:20.920 Right.
00:45:21.840 Absolutely, Steve.
00:45:23.440 So, when he got hit, or someone gets hit, during a particular phase of the heart rhythm, and it's, like I said, it's so rare.
00:45:33.380 So, they get hit, and it disrupts the rhythm.
00:45:36.900 And instead of having a normal rhythm, it gets all chaotic.
00:45:41.080 The ventricle is not supplying blood anywhere.
00:45:44.800 You have no cardiac output, and you lose your pulse, and you lose your ability to breathe.
00:45:50.360 And defibrillation.
00:45:51.140 It's almost, it's almost, it's almost, that's a, so it's almost a, the odds and the randomness.
00:45:57.100 I believe there's been one time in National Football League history, I think it was the Lions versus the Bears, when Buckets played, back in the 70s.
00:46:03.940 I forget the player's name.
00:46:05.580 But there was a player that died, or essentially died on the field.
00:46:08.460 I think he died a little bit later in the emergency room.
00:46:11.580 And I believe it was because of this.
00:46:12.980 Or they're saying that it might have been because of this.
00:46:14.780 This is back, I think, in 1971.
00:46:16.320 You can actually go into a lethal arrhythmia from electrolyte disturbances.
00:46:29.080 You could have myocarditis.
00:46:31.380 About 20% of athletes who have died, sudden death syndrome from myocarditis, had inflammation of the heart that disturbed the electrical rhythm.
00:46:42.320 And it's just because some, you've seen it.
00:46:47.000 Okay, but hold it, but hold it.
00:46:47.840 But this gets back to the side effects of the vaccine.
00:46:52.820 Because all the National Football League, I think, except for Aaron Rodgers, or just a handful of people, were bold enough to sit there and go, I don't know if I want to do this.
00:47:01.100 But everybody else, and I think, I read last night that the bills, I think, are 100% vaccinated.
00:47:05.740 What about the argument that Charlie Kirt and people are saying, you've got to consider the vaccine issues in this regard?
00:47:12.920 You have to.
00:47:14.000 As I said, we call them differential diagnosis.
00:47:16.980 Our first priority is to resuscitate.
00:47:19.580 After you resuscitate, you start running blood tests to see for electrical disturbances.
00:47:25.940 Is there any other drugs in the system that may cause this?
00:47:29.840 You look at an EKG to see the rhythm.
00:47:32.820 Then you look at an echocardiogram, which is a sonogram of the heart, to look structurally.
00:47:39.420 Is everything okay?
00:47:41.160 And then you look, you know, did you get mRNA injection within the last six months?
00:47:48.160 You know, you have to.
00:47:49.140 It's all deductive reasoning and looking at everything.
00:47:51.900 So it can't be ruled out.
00:47:52.920 It's not foolish for anyone to bring it out.
00:47:55.620 But most likely, it is either due to this commotio cortis and or myocarditis.
00:48:06.180 But we will know more.
00:48:07.480 But the myocarditis, but the myocarditis, are you implying that most of the vaccine things relate to blood clots and not myocarditis?
00:48:15.600 I mean, myocarditis is one of the major issues about the vax, correct?
00:48:20.100 It is true.
00:48:21.940 You are so right.
00:48:23.020 And young people, unfortunately, they have suffered anywhere from very mild myocarditis to life-threatening myocarditis.
00:48:31.760 But people have gotten myocarditis even before mRNA injections.
00:48:38.200 I have a hard time calling it a vaccine.
00:48:40.800 But it could be.
00:48:41.460 Yes, the experimental gene therapy.
00:48:44.160 Okay, real quickly.
00:48:44.880 We only got a couple of minutes.
00:48:45.920 And going forward, because, you know, Charlie even brought this up, and he's been dragged.
00:48:51.240 He's a barbarian.
00:48:52.800 To get to the bottom of what happened, and not for the care of Lamar, what is, what has to, I mean, Damar, Hamlin, what has to happen?
00:49:06.420 How do they go through and get to the bottom of exactly what caused this?
00:49:10.100 They have to do it through testing and deductive reasoning and looking at all of it.
00:49:16.540 And it may take some time.
00:49:19.140 There are ways, certain blood tests that we know are injuries, troponin levels, we have to look at that.
00:49:26.740 It does take a little bit to get to it.
00:49:30.000 They also, if you want to go down the vaccine route, you look how far long ago he had the vaccine.
00:49:37.100 It's typically close to when they get the vaccine, when you have sudden death syndrome, or within six months.
00:49:45.760 But because he had impact, even though it's very rare, you can't rule that out either.
00:49:52.260 And you can tell by certain echocardiograms and EKGs if there was some bruising within that.
00:50:01.420 I've got about a minute.
00:50:04.440 This equipment, the AEDs, is this needed in more, I don't know, health clubs?
00:50:09.240 Or is there a process to advocate that this needs to be installed and people need to be trained on it, like people are taught how to do CPR?
00:50:17.500 My main reason for going on TV shows, radio, is often to teach, and this is a teachable thing about getting AEDs, automated external defibrillators, in most centers where people congregate, in malls, in airports, sports arena, because it saves lives.
00:50:41.640 When anybody drops dead, and you don't know why, you get that AED on.
00:50:49.740 And if it's not advised to shock, the machine won't shock.
00:50:54.080 But it is one of the ways we save lives and immediate CPR.
00:50:59.560 Maria, how do people follow you on social media and your podcast?
00:51:02.660 You've got about 30 seconds.
00:51:04.220 Thank you.
00:51:04.820 I am on Getter at Dr. Maria, on Truth at Dr. Maria, and I also have a website, DrMariaRyan.com.
00:51:15.260 In my show, I'm covering the truth with Rudy Giuliani every Sunday on WABCRadio.com.
00:51:23.740 Dr. Maria Ryan, thank you.
00:51:25.240 Appreciate it.
00:51:25.740 We'll have you back on to follow up on this.
00:51:27.700 Okay, 90-second break.
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