In this episode, Stephen K.K. Warren and Joy Porter talk about the rise of the far-right wing of the Republican Party, and how it has hijacked the entire Republican Party. They discuss the role of the Freedom Caucus, and what it means for the future of the party.
00:05:29.000But I want to give you the history of this because it's very important because this just didn't happen overnight.
00:05:35.000This has been building for 10 or 12 years.
00:05:38.000And the tell here, I've got Dave Bratt and I want to go Kurt Bardella, who is the one of the biggest haters out there.
00:05:46.000He was Daryl Issa's comms director before he got caught in a controversy and got let go by Issa.
00:05:52.000A very talented guy, but not an ideologue. He worked for me at Breitbart.
00:05:57.000He was there. He saw what went on. And he understands the history here.
00:06:01.000And particularly going back to 2014, it really started with the Tea Party movement in 10.
00:06:06.000But the real it came to a head at the first wave with defeating Eric Cantor.
00:06:11.000Remember, Eric Cantor is just not any guy. He was a majority leader.
00:06:14.000The first time in the history of the American Republic in 2014 that a sitting majority leader was defeated in a primary.
00:06:23.000And the reason this is so historic for our audience, particularly you guys are just coming on to politics in the last couple of years.
00:06:29.000You have to understand the history is that Zuckerberg was set. They were going to have a big festival the next day to come on Capitol Hill with what the Republican Party had done about the defeat of Romney in 12.
00:06:41.000They had this thing called the the assessment or the analysis, and they were going to basically back DACA.
00:06:47.000They were going to have a massive embryo. It was all set for the like the next day or the day after in Washington.
00:06:52.000Cantor gets defeated by an unknown economics professor from Randolph-Macon, really led the tip of the spear.
00:06:58.000Then Laura Ingraham, her radio show, I don't think she wouldn't even on Fox on Laura Ingraham's radio show in the Natalie winners of her day.
00:07:05.000Julia Hahn, a young 20 year old graduate from the University of Chicago, was her producer, eventually worked for us at Breitbart and went to the White House with us in the victory.
00:07:15.000And because this was really the beginning of the real Trump movement was that was that very was everything.
00:07:22.000And one of the things it was all about was about spending and immigration and the border and all of it.
00:07:29.000And Cantor was defeated. Boehner was defeated by the motion to vacate.
00:07:34.000Mark Meadows put it in that Boehner just didn't step down. They did a you heard this term motion to vacate.
00:07:40.000They put a motion to vacate in and Boehner realized he didn't have the support. He was forced out.
00:07:45.000Then Ryan was essentially forced out. He retired. He couldn't take it.
00:07:48.000And now can't now McCarthy is the fourth. Right. The fourth of the young guns plus Boehner.
00:07:53.000And yes, it's not personal. It's about what this is, what the Russ vote calls the heart of the cartel.
00:08:00.000OK, this is the heart of the cartel. I want to bring in I want to bring in Dave Brat.
00:08:06.000Start with Brat. We got Russ vote next. Corey after that. Brat.
00:08:11.000But here's the go in my getter. That's the easiest thing to do. But if you can't and if Denver can put off, there's a couple of articles I have up today.
00:08:17.000They look like they're about different things, but they're actually about the thing itself. OK, there's a piece in the hill that says the senators are very concerned now about McCarthy.
00:08:26.000That he's he's shown so much weakness here. They don't know if he's going to be a control this conference.
00:08:31.000He doesn't know if he's going to be a controller Republicans. But the buried lead is down like 10 paragraphs.
00:08:35.000It's the same guys, Cornyn and Thune and all the collaborationist that that worked on the on the omnibus bill.
00:08:41.000And what are they worried about exactly? Because this audience is the head of the creditors committee.
00:08:46.000They're worried about two things, the debt ceiling and the appropriations bill. Boom, right there.
00:08:50.000This is why Fox all night long. And by the way, people have so many colleagues and friends over there.
00:08:57.000It's not about people, not about people. And things are going to get very personal.
00:09:00.000It's going to get nasty, but it's not about people. But you got Sean last night.
00:09:03.000This morning, you got Fox and friends. You got the Wall Street Journal.
00:09:07.000You got the New York Post. It's all the Murdoch Empire.
00:09:11.000They're they're against. They understand the debt ceiling in our hands.
00:09:15.000And here's the thing about the debt, but increase. There's no increase to the debt ceiling.
00:09:18.000Sorry. No, we're actually going to use it to come up with a plan.
00:09:22.000There is no increase to the debt ceiling. You're going to have to figure out with the amount of debt you have right now.
00:09:28.000You're going to have to figure it out. We're going to have to have an adult conversation.
00:09:31.000No more of this naive kicking the can down the road. The same with the appropriations.
00:09:35.000This is why they took the power out of McCarthy's hands right now, because they saw that this was coming.
00:09:41.000This is what it's all about. This is a spiritual war.
00:09:44.000But right now on Capitol Hill, this is just about two simple things, money and power.
00:09:51.000OK, money and power and what they want. They do not want this audience.
00:09:56.000They don't want the grassroots. They don't want the Tea Party. They don't want the remnants of 2014.
00:10:00.000They don't want the Trump movement. They do not want you at the table.
00:10:04.000They particularly don't want you at the head of the table as the head of the creditors committee.
00:10:08.000Dave Bratt, your history from 14. Tell us about it. Why was it so important and why does it resonate today?
00:10:14.000Kurt Bardell is one thousand percent correct. This is what it goes back to.
00:10:18.000Right. It's like the movie in the Godfather that you to go back into the history of Sicily, right, to find out what the five families are fighting about in New York in the 1950s.
00:10:27.000You've got to go back to Sicily at the turn of the century because history has meaning here.
00:10:31.000It has it has it definitely has deep roots and it's all about the cartel.
00:10:36.000Dave Bratt. Yeah, well, first place that these are just all my own comments.
00:10:42.000I don't speak on behalf of anyone or any institution. And secondly, Bardella, you know, the left, they're supposed to be loving people, but he's not too loving to me or anybody else.
00:10:52.000And he talks about this. You know, I'm part of this grand conspiracy.
00:10:57.000That's all news to me. When I was on the phone asking people for 500 bucks, they said, hey, Don Quixote, how you feeling today?
00:11:04.000Every that's what I got. Right. I had nothing. I had one hundred fifty thousand total versus five million.
00:11:11.000And so there was no movement. I'm not part of some orchestrated group. I was a Presbyterian economist and which is fairly boring.
00:11:19.000Right. I mean, this is I was a fairly boring liberal arts prof.
00:11:22.000You know, I love teaching and all that. But, you know, all these names in this piece just over and over and over.
00:11:29.000And then they abstract from policy. I ran on policy.
00:11:32.000Kander was pushing an amnesty, which he said that the basic principles of amnesty on all his commercials said go back to the founding fathers.
00:11:42.000Don't think so. And then I was an economist.
00:11:44.000You know, I've been I was I ran on the unfunded liabilities, which were about one hundred trillion back then.
00:11:50.000And the deficits, which were small then compared to what they are now, they've been dwarfed.
00:11:59.000Part of it was already done. Right. Oh, eight, oh, nine. That kind of triggered me, got me excited.
00:12:04.000But, yeah, these these caricatures that come about me or the other the Freedom Caucus guys, they can't sustain themselves on a policy argument.
00:12:15.000And they never mentioned what you mentioned in the in the dialogue there was the people.
00:12:21.000The people don't get a voice here because when you say, well, there's just 20 representatives and it's, you know, Gingrich came out with some comments and whatever.
00:12:31.000But what they're missing is there's only 20, because if you dare speak out, you don't get ten million dollars and you lose all your committee assignments.
00:12:39.000And there's no that's what I just said is very significant. Right.
00:12:43.000If you speak out on behalf of your people, your constituents in a republic, you get no money to get reelected.
00:12:52.000I had the Republican machine come after me as well as the Democrats in elections because I followed, of all things, the Republican creed.
00:13:02.000Right. If the Republicans would just come out and which they didn't, leadership didn't run on any promises.
00:13:09.000But the Republican convention produces a platform which says no open borders, which we have.
00:13:16.000We have. And they actually say in the platform we should have a wall.
00:13:19.000Leadership doesn't say a word on that. They say we're fiscally responsible.
00:13:24.000We just had an omnibus bill which further bankrupted the United States of America, adding to thirty two trillion dollars in debt that, as you alluded, is causing, you know, sovereign debt crises around the world right now.
00:13:38.000Ghana is in the paper today and you just mentioned a few others.
00:13:41.000That's going to have wrinkles. And then the the everlasting war camp.
00:13:46.000We have a war going on now. No one's approached the American people on the basic strategy and outcomes and cost benefit of what we're getting out of this war.
00:13:55.000And so, you know, those are just a few things that might matter to the average American or conservative.
00:14:01.000In addition to, you know, the Republican platform has God language in it, which is inspiring.
00:14:08.000And it locates our rights as the entire Western, you know, civ tradition does.
00:14:14.000Our rights are inalienable rights, which tells you right there they come from God.
00:14:22.000And so the Republican, the Republican at home just wants to hear that glowing language coming out.
00:14:28.000Well, the lack of a red wave during the midterms lead to a more emboldened Biden, more wasteful government spending, higher taxes, the deepening of inflation.
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00:16:56.000It's about the debt ceiling and it's about the appropriations bill.
00:17:00.000In fact, one of the guys on CNN, a former congressman, said the other day, the biggest mistake, the Senate right now is talking, the biggest mistake they think they made is not putting the debt ceiling into that ominous bill.
00:17:10.000So we're going to get to Russ's vote here in a minute.
00:18:05.000Because it is about, and you're going to be back on here many, many times talking about debt ceiling appropriations because it's about money.
00:18:30.000And so now it's big tech with ESG and the woke CEO, Fortune 500s, and doing business with a totalitarian surveillance state called China.
00:18:42.000The history books are going to look back at this period in shock.
00:18:45.000And back when I was in, we made one promise, just one under Ryan and the Republican leadership, et cetera.
00:18:52.000We were going to repeal Obamacare, and we didn't do that.
00:18:55.000And so now we have socialized medicine, and that's a power center and a money center that no one will touch that's led into all sorts of public health fiascos because it's all centralized.
00:20:37.000Yeah, I think it's going to start off really broken.
00:20:40.000And if he does have to give in, like I said, on the motion to vacate where they can remove him at any time, it could be a very short speakership.
00:20:47.000You know, this is one of the things that when Paul Ryan took over said, you know, we need to get rid of this rule.
00:20:53.000We need to change it so this is not hanging over.
00:20:55.000I mean, we never actually got rid of it, but we kind of got a handshake deal that they wouldn't use it against him.
00:20:59.000Yeah, he's going to have no leash to do much of anything.
00:21:02.000The good thing is that expectations are super low that they're going to accomplish a whole lot.
00:21:28.000I mean, again, this comes down to whoever is in charge.
00:21:30.000Whoever is going to become speaker is probably going to have to live under these rules because these people have asserted their authority over the rest of the group.
00:21:39.000And I just don't see any way out of it.
00:21:49.000This is why Wall Street Journal, the fact they're coming hard because they understand it's the appropriations process for this coming year.
00:21:54.000They took the gavel out of our hand for this to pass the omnibus.
00:21:57.000But the thing the thing that's keeping them up at night, they see the fight for the debt ceiling right here.
00:22:03.000Russ Vought is this is this us versus the cartel?
00:22:34.000The debt limit right now is a balanced budget requirement that we have in law.
00:22:39.000And then you have this former Republican staff saying the biggest thing keeping me up at night is we're not going to be able to violate the balanced budget requirement in law.
00:22:48.000I mean, this is why we have failed for decades.
00:23:38.000That's that's what this fight's about.
00:23:40.000They understand now that if we empower if we empower the people that have understanding of what this issue is, if we're empowered now that the game stops.
00:24:48.000Not what we fund every year, the bureaucracy.
00:24:50.000All of that are shiny object devices that are designed by the cartel intentionally to distract away from the leverage points that the American people have to change the way that Washington works.
00:25:02.000We are seeing that today and yesterday.
00:27:56.000After I've stolen the title, barred against it, or sold the property, it's 60 to 90 days for that person to even figure out that they're the victim of this crime.
00:30:09.000We've been making the case here that the speakership race in the in the in the in the head of the RNC chair race are kind of inextricably linked.
00:30:22.000Look, a couple of things we've got to remind your viewers of.
00:30:25.000Number one, Mitch McConnell should have lost his race for leader in the Republican Party.
00:30:30.000Now the longest serving Republican leader in history, which is outrageous.
00:30:34.000We lost the U.S. Senate because of what happened under McConnell's leadership.
00:30:38.000But he beat back Rick Scott for that challenge.
00:30:42.000Kevin McCarthy, even though the Republicans took back the majority, is going to be held accountable.
00:30:47.000I think will ultimately be denied the speaker's gavel because he weighed in in primaries against good candidates.
00:30:54.000He weighed in against candidates who went on to win not only their primary against Kevin's recommendation,
00:30:59.000but their general elections because they were America first candidates.
00:31:02.000And Ronna Romney McDaniel, who has been the RNC chair for six years, who stood up in front of Amelia Island two years ago and said, I just need two more years.
00:31:11.000This will be my last term is now saying that the 168, the magical 168 is saying they need to have her for two more years.
00:31:19.000Steve, when you lose elections, there has to be consequences.
00:31:22.000And I think what we should see, what we will see is Kevin McCarthy will be denied the gavel and hopefully Ronna Romney will be denied the RNC chairmanship again.
00:31:31.000Let's go back to, let's take McCarthy first and we'll take Ronna.
00:31:34.000When you say denied the gavel, you've been, Corey's the kind of guy also when you're in a firefight, you want him in the foxhole next to you.
00:32:10.000Well, Kevin made a strategic mistake yesterday by letting people go home.
00:32:14.000If it were me and I would have been the person running for speaker, I would have made them sit in those chairs until people are smelly and dirty and filthy and said, fine, vote for me because I'll let you go and shower.
00:33:02.000Steve, the grassroots is angry because we've been taken advantage of again.
00:33:06.000And because six years ago when we thought we had a new speaker coming in and was going to be Kevin at the time, it was a consensus candidate.
00:33:20.000I want to go to and by the way, the fight you just saw there and the angle of attack and the attitude is exactly why Trump won the primary with a handful of people.
00:33:36.000People that a guy I consider a brother and you consider a brother, Dave Bossy, and I consider Dave's, you know, we brought him in right away to be the deputy campaign chairman or campaign head in 16 when we won.
00:33:47.000It was because of guys like Dave Bossy, who knows how to get down the trenches.
00:35:05.000Go start making sure that our candidates are the right ones.
00:35:08.000Stop living off the grift and the corruption that takes place through that building and start getting success.
00:35:14.000And if we would have had a massive victory like we did when Barack Obama was the president or when Bill Clinton was the president, where we won 63 and 54 seats respectively in the first midterm, then Ronald Romney deserves to stay.
00:35:38.000You're not just a brilliant strategist.
00:35:40.000You're a pretty good tactician when you get into a fight.
00:35:43.000And it's kind of fog of war, the moves you make.
00:35:45.000I think that even though the dam was going to break and that's why they wanted to get out of the floor, I agree that if you're going to grind these guys, you should have grinded them overnight last night and made it hurt.
00:35:55.000And now I hear they're not even coming in for a vote at noon.
00:35:59.000This is what I'm hearing that may be a little different.
00:36:01.000It's changing minute by minute because they're afraid of losing these votes.
00:36:04.000How do you think this thing plays out?
00:36:06.000And do you think it plays out toward Jordan or somebody else will emerge structurally?
00:36:10.000Walk us through the Corey Lewandowski view of the tactics here.
00:36:15.000Steve, I think that Ray Yonkour, who is Jim Jordan's guy, should be making calls behind the scenes to say Jim actually wants this job.
00:36:21.000And if Jim comes out publicly and says, I want it, I think you'll see 80 to 100 votes go for Jim on the next vote.
00:36:27.000Look, Kevin is losing votes every round.
00:37:05.000And it tells me the weakness of the operation and what Kevin is going to do potentially is you're going to have to join with Democrats if he actually wants to get this done.
00:37:13.000And if he does that and gives them the committee assignments that they want and the power that they want to wield, then we have been no better than if Hakeem Jeffries was the chairman of the Speaker of the House.
00:37:26.000I think itself, the guy from the replace the guy that had the problem up in North Texas, he's telling people yesterday nobody in the whip team ever called him.
00:37:33.000He said they should have added my name to it.
00:37:35.000He said I wasn't going to volunteer it, but I would have told him if they called me.
00:38:33.000I think you're going to see a consensus candidate.
00:38:35.000The fact that Jim Jordan made an impassioned speech from the floor yesterday and Kevin lost a vote on the third vote after Jim made that speech should tell you everything you need to know that even with Jim support, it's not coming around.
00:40:07.000And look, our last line of defense right now are these Republican governors around the country.
00:40:10.000Ron DeSantis and Henry McMaster and others that are stopping what's going on from the administration.
00:40:16.000I give praise to Greg Abbott down in Texas and so many others who stepped up and said we won't take this anymore.
00:40:22.000And so, look, if we have to, we will use the governor's executive authorities around this country to prevent the overreach from the federal government and take them to court.
00:40:30.000Because every time we go to court, Biden's administration loses.
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00:45:17.000We started to 14, which Bardell is walking through the day, which the taking down of the kind of the young guns, the canner Boehner, Ryan, and now McCarthy.
00:45:25.000Then you had Trump come on the scene really in 14.
00:45:28.000Uh, but particularly in 15 when he announced, but he was actually working it in 14 right after the, uh, in fact, the first time I actually saw him in real action besides the CPACs was in.
00:45:38.000In 2014 in New Hampshire on the 1st of May, uh, uh, uh, a cattle call put on by Dave bossy, which Trump dominated, right?
00:45:47.000Uh, 30 days after that was Dave Brett's stunning primary defeat.
00:45:52.000The first time in American history of a sitting majority leader, Eric canner.
00:45:55.000When Dave Brad talked about, he only raised $150,000.
00:46:06.000Eric canner had spent more for one dinner at, uh, at, uh, Johnny Vans or whatever it is, uh, in, in DC for, for donors.
00:46:15.000He had spent more in one dinner than Dave Brad spent on the entire campaign.
00:46:19.000And then you had the, uh, then you had the rise of the Trump movement of the surprise stunning victory in 16, which really made Mitch McConnell because we dragged, you know, Blunt and Toomey and Johnson across the finish line and Burr at the end.
00:46:32.000They didn't think we're going to take the Senate.
00:47:01.000And now you're seeing sophisticated people around the country saying, Hey, look, I think we're seeing a potential sovereign debt crisis in Japan.
00:48:10.000And when you have people like Kevin McCarthy, you know, he takes money from corporate PACs and he does their bidding.
00:48:19.000Whether it's the trillion dollar big tech, big, big, big tech monopolist, Google, Amazon, Facebook and Apple, the pharmaceutical industry, the military industry.
00:48:30.000If you want Kevin McCarthy's attention, you better have a $5,000 PAC check because he does not, he has shown over the last many years he does not give a damn about everyday Americans in the real world.
00:48:44.000Whether it is the BLM Antifa riots, COVID lockdowns, the gender chaos in schools, gender affirming care, which is the Democrats nice way of saying mutilating kids with surgeries and hormone pills.
00:49:01.000Where has Kevin McCarthy been on these key fights over the last many years?
00:49:07.000We are under siege since 2020 from the Marxist left.
00:49:12.000We no longer have a liberal Democrat party.
00:49:18.000How did the corporate, you got the oligarchs in Silicon Valley, you got big pharma, you got the military industrial complex, you got so many veterans in our movement.
00:49:25.000How did the corporations, which used to be the bedrock of the Republican party that you take care of the, you know, the business of America's business, you give them tax cuts, you give them deregulation, all's gonna be good.
00:49:36.000How did that get to be almost a more threatening and more radical aspect than even the radicals in the Democratic party, sir?
00:49:43.000Because the Marxist left have, have taken over, has taken over every institution in America, whether it's government, academia, corporate boards through, you know, these pain in the pain in the neck employees and pain in the neck, activist investors.
00:50:01.000These boards have gone woke to try to silence them, Coca-Cola, many other companies.
00:50:07.000It, they, the left is so much better, so much smarter, so much subversive than, than we are as conservatives.
00:50:18.000And, uh, they've done this over the last two decades, actually longer than that, but they, they, I mean, when they've taken over, they've taken over the military.
00:50:27.000When the, the Marxist left have, has taken over the, the military, you know, there were in trouble.
00:50:35.000He is, he's basically investor relations from the Marxist left.
00:50:40.000He just takes their calls and does their bidding.
00:50:42.000And, and, and where you're seeing this most is really the, the thing has choked us down.
00:50:47.000They had another dump last night of the CIA and the FBI involvement in Twitter about the, about the, the hard drive from hell, the laptop from hell is absolutely stunning.
00:50:56.000What, what, what big tech did in the merger with the FBI and the CIA is nothing more than a, I mean, I'm stunned by these revelations.
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