Bannon's War Room - Episode 2417： The Plan That Started In 2014; Overcoming Day Of Slander

00:00:01.000 This is the final scream of a dying regime.

00:00:06.000 Pray for our enemies,

00:00:08.000 because we're going medieval on these people.

00:00:11.000 You're just not going to free shot all these networks lying about the people.

00:00:15.000 The people have had a belly full of it.

00:00:17.000 I know you don't like hearing that.

00:00:19.000 I know you've tried to do everything in the world to stop that,

00:00:21.000 but you're not going to stop it. It's going to happen.

00:00:23.000 And where do people like that go to share the big line?

00:00:26.000 MAGA media.

00:00:27.000 I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.

00:00:32.000 Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?

00:00:36.000 If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.

00:00:43.000 Warren, here's your host, Stephen K. Back.

00:00:50.000 It started to get weird.

00:00:52.000 And it was 2014 in the Obama era. Talk a little bit about that.

00:00:56.000 Yeah, when you look at what's unfolded today, Joy, to me, all of this started eight years ago

00:01:01.000 when Dave Bratt defeated sitting House Majority Leader Eric Cantor in his primary.

00:01:06.000 It was the first time really that we saw from that Tea Party wing of the party that had emerged

00:01:11.000 them successfully take out what they called the establishment,

00:01:14.000 which they really thought of as the enemy.

00:01:15.000 It's funny because that wing of the party, the Democrats were the opposition,

00:01:19.000 but their own leadership, their own party structure.

00:01:22.000 They saw them as the enemy, and they successfully took out Eric Cantor.

00:01:26.000 And Cantor was part of this trifecta that was anointed as the young guns.

00:01:29.000 It was Paul Ryan, Eric Cantor, and you guessed it, Kevin McCarthy.

00:01:32.000 They were going to be the heir of parents that were going to take over.

00:01:35.000 Cantor goes down.

00:01:36.000 Boehner then, a year later, resigns from Congress.

00:01:39.000 Not just vacating the speaker.

00:01:40.000 He left.

00:01:41.000 He took his ball and went home.

00:01:42.000 McCarthy was supposed to be the leader at that point.

00:01:45.000 The night before the vote's going to happen, the Freedom Caucus puts out 30 to 40 members

00:01:50.000 saying they're not going to vote for McCarthy.

00:01:52.000 24 hours later, McCarthy bows out of the race.

00:01:54.000 Paul Ryan ascends.

00:01:55.000 Guess what happened shortly after that?

00:01:57.000 Paul Ryan leaves Congress.

00:01:58.000 He didn't want to deal with it anymore because it got too crazy.

00:02:02.000 Here we are now, all those years later, and it's the same play playing out.

00:02:06.000 Yeah.

00:02:07.000 A vocal minority of extreme, and in this case, anti-Democratic domestic terror sympathizers,

00:02:12.000 have hijacked the entire caucus.

00:02:14.000 There are 222 Republicans in Congress.

00:02:16.000 How is it possible that these people have allowed 20 of them, led by Matt Gaetz, who,

00:02:21.000 you know, sent Venmos to a child trafficker of some kind?

00:02:25.000 Like, how do they allow this to happen, that they get held hostage?

00:02:29.000 And it's because for every time that this has happened, they capitulate.

00:02:32.000 That's been the Republican response.

00:02:33.000 The reason why Donald Trump was able to hijack the Republican Party was because they surrendered

00:02:37.000 it to him.

00:02:38.000 Trump didn't take it by force.

00:02:40.000 He just won it through attrition.

00:02:41.000 They just gave up.

00:02:42.000 Now they're seeing what happens when you let that happen.

00:02:44.000 There's a reason why, Joy.

00:02:46.000 The United States motto is we don't negotiate with terrorists.

00:02:49.000 This is the reason why.

00:02:50.000 Yeah, for me, a lot of what we're seeing now, which is really the complete neutering of

00:02:55.000 leadership, started about eight years ago in June in 2014 when Dave Brat defeated the

00:03:02.000 sitting House Majority Leader Eric Cantor.

00:03:04.000 That was the first chink in the armor of leadership. 1.00

00:03:07.000 This was the first time that this right wing faction within the Republican Party at the time,

00:03:12.000 the Tea Party now has morphed into the MAGA movement.

00:03:15.000 That side got an actual what they would call a scalp.

00:03:18.000 They successfully took one of the members of the establishment down.

00:03:21.000 They've always been operating from the assumption that Democrats were the opposition, but their

00:03:25.000 own leadership, their own establishment was their true enemy.

00:03:28.000 That's what the Steve Bannons and the Laura Ingrams and the Mark Levens and that crowd at

00:03:32.000 that time, that's what they preached.

00:03:34.000 And in defeating Cantor, they were able to actually see that through.

00:03:37.000 That gave them the momentum to then go after other leaders.

00:03:40.000 A year later, John Boehner not just leaves the speakership, he leaves Congress altogether.

00:03:44.000 A few years after that, Paul Ryan leaves Congress altogether.

00:03:48.000 So they have seen this collective ability to take down the top leaders in the party.

00:03:53.000 And it's just been a few of them, just small voices that have hijacked the party.

00:03:57.000 And every single time this confrontation has come to a head, the Republican leadership capitulates.

00:04:02.000 OK, it's Wednesday, 4th January in the year of our Lord, 2023.

00:04:07.000 We've got Wanshi Shans in Brazil, the hatchet man, the enforcer, and quite frankly, 0.98

00:04:13.000 the evil but brilliant strategist for Xi is in Brazil for Lula's inauguration.

00:04:19.000 We've got a team on the border in Mexico.

00:04:21.000 We've got a team of the Vatican. We have major news.

00:04:24.000 We've got issues with a debt contagion, maybe even spreading from Japan to other places.

00:04:31.000 We have major news.

00:04:33.000 But all that's got to be just put aside for today because we're in a historic moment.

00:04:37.000 And the next couple of hours may determine the direction of all this.

00:04:42.000 Kurt Bardella, welcome to the war room.

00:04:45.000 And I didn't want to start with all the Fox stuff and everything that's happened.

00:04:48.000 We're going to get to that. I got Russ Vogt, one of President Trump's most ardent supporters.

00:04:54.000 And you should understand the framework we're dealing with.

00:04:57.000 President Trump did come out this morning with a truth social, a truth, I guess they call them,

00:05:02.000 with a backing Kevin McCarthy all in.

00:05:04.000 You've got to take the win, take the victory.

00:05:06.000 Let's do it. Send Nancy Pelosi home and move on. 0.99

00:05:09.000 Russ Vogt, one of his most ardent supporters, has come out on Twitter and said,

00:05:15.000 yeah, I love President Trump. We back him, but I'm not seeing this.

00:05:18.000 And these guys are not going to back down.

00:05:20.000 Corey Lewandowski is going to join us.

00:05:22.000 Got Mike Davis, Ralph Norman, and a couple of what is now they're referring to him as a Taliban 20. 0.98

00:05:27.000 This is how ugly it's going to get.

00:05:29.000 But I want to give you the history of this because it's very important because this just didn't happen overnight.

00:05:35.000 This has been building for 10 or 12 years.

00:05:38.000 And the tell here, I've got Dave Bratt and I want to go Kurt Bardella, who is the one of the biggest haters out there.

00:05:46.000 He was Daryl Issa's comms director before he got caught in a controversy and got let go by Issa.

00:05:52.000 A very talented guy, but not an ideologue. He worked for me at Breitbart.

00:05:57.000 He was there. He saw what went on. And he understands the history here.

00:06:01.000 And particularly going back to 2014, it really started with the Tea Party movement in 10.

00:06:06.000 But the real it came to a head at the first wave with defeating Eric Cantor.

00:06:11.000 Remember, Eric Cantor is just not any guy. He was a majority leader.

00:06:14.000 The first time in the history of the American Republic in 2014 that a sitting majority leader was defeated in a primary.

00:06:23.000 And the reason this is so historic for our audience, particularly you guys are just coming on to politics in the last couple of years.

00:06:29.000 You have to understand the history is that Zuckerberg was set. They were going to have a big festival the next day to come on Capitol Hill with what the Republican Party had done about the defeat of Romney in 12.

00:06:41.000 They had this thing called the the assessment or the analysis, and they were going to basically back DACA.

00:06:47.000 They were going to have a massive embryo. It was all set for the like the next day or the day after in Washington.

00:06:52.000 Cantor gets defeated by an unknown economics professor from Randolph-Macon, really led the tip of the spear.

00:06:58.000 Then Laura Ingraham, her radio show, I don't think she wouldn't even on Fox on Laura Ingraham's radio show in the Natalie winners of her day.

00:07:05.000 Julia Hahn, a young 20 year old graduate from the University of Chicago, was her producer, eventually worked for us at Breitbart and went to the White House with us in the victory.

00:07:15.000 And because this was really the beginning of the real Trump movement was that was that very was everything.

00:07:22.000 And one of the things it was all about was about spending and immigration and the border and all of it.

00:07:29.000 And Cantor was defeated. Boehner was defeated by the motion to vacate.

00:07:34.000 Mark Meadows put it in that Boehner just didn't step down. They did a you heard this term motion to vacate.

00:07:40.000 They put a motion to vacate in and Boehner realized he didn't have the support. He was forced out.

00:07:45.000 Then Ryan was essentially forced out. He retired. He couldn't take it.

00:07:48.000 And now can't now McCarthy is the fourth. Right. The fourth of the young guns plus Boehner.

00:07:53.000 And yes, it's not personal. It's about what this is, what the Russ vote calls the heart of the cartel.

00:08:00.000 OK, this is the heart of the cartel. I want to bring in I want to bring in Dave Brat.

00:08:06.000 Start with Brat. We got Russ vote next. Corey after that. Brat.

00:08:11.000 But here's the go in my getter. That's the easiest thing to do. But if you can't and if Denver can put off, there's a couple of articles I have up today. 0.90

00:08:17.000 They look like they're about different things, but they're actually about the thing itself. OK, there's a piece in the hill that says the senators are very concerned now about McCarthy.

00:08:26.000 That he's he's shown so much weakness here. They don't know if he's going to be a control this conference.

00:08:31.000 He doesn't know if he's going to be a controller Republicans. But the buried lead is down like 10 paragraphs.

00:08:35.000 It's the same guys, Cornyn and Thune and all the collaborationist that that worked on the on the omnibus bill.

00:08:41.000 And what are they worried about exactly? Because this audience is the head of the creditors committee.

00:08:46.000 They're worried about two things, the debt ceiling and the appropriations bill. Boom, right there.

00:08:50.000 This is why Fox all night long. And by the way, people have so many colleagues and friends over there.

00:08:57.000 It's not about people, not about people. And things are going to get very personal.

00:09:00.000 It's going to get nasty, but it's not about people. But you got Sean last night.

00:09:03.000 This morning, you got Fox and friends. You got the Wall Street Journal.

00:09:07.000 You got the New York Post. It's all the Murdoch Empire.

00:09:11.000 They're they're against. They understand the debt ceiling in our hands.

00:09:15.000 And here's the thing about the debt, but increase. There's no increase to the debt ceiling.

00:09:18.000 Sorry. No, we're actually going to use it to come up with a plan.

00:09:22.000 There is no increase to the debt ceiling. You're going to have to figure out with the amount of debt you have right now.

00:09:28.000 You're going to have to figure it out. We're going to have to have an adult conversation.

00:09:31.000 No more of this naive kicking the can down the road. The same with the appropriations.

00:09:35.000 This is why they took the power out of McCarthy's hands right now, because they saw that this was coming.

00:09:41.000 This is what it's all about. This is a spiritual war.

00:09:44.000 But right now on Capitol Hill, this is just about two simple things, money and power.

00:09:51.000 OK, money and power and what they want. They do not want this audience.

00:09:56.000 They don't want the grassroots. They don't want the Tea Party. They don't want the remnants of 2014.

00:10:00.000 They don't want the Trump movement. They do not want you at the table.

00:10:04.000 They particularly don't want you at the head of the table as the head of the creditors committee.

00:10:08.000 Dave Bratt, your history from 14. Tell us about it. Why was it so important and why does it resonate today?

00:10:14.000 Kurt Bardell is one thousand percent correct. This is what it goes back to.

00:10:18.000 Right. It's like the movie in the Godfather that you to go back into the history of Sicily, right, to find out what the five families are fighting about in New York in the 1950s.

00:10:27.000 You've got to go back to Sicily at the turn of the century because history has meaning here.

00:10:31.000 It has it has it definitely has deep roots and it's all about the cartel.

00:10:36.000 Dave Bratt. Yeah, well, first place that these are just all my own comments.

00:10:42.000 I don't speak on behalf of anyone or any institution. And secondly, Bardella, you know, the left, they're supposed to be loving people, but he's not too loving to me or anybody else.

00:10:52.000 And he talks about this. You know, I'm part of this grand conspiracy.

00:10:57.000 That's all news to me. When I was on the phone asking people for 500 bucks, they said, hey, Don Quixote, how you feeling today?

00:11:04.000 Every that's what I got. Right. I had nothing. I had one hundred fifty thousand total versus five million.

00:11:11.000 And so there was no movement. I'm not part of some orchestrated group. I was a Presbyterian economist and which is fairly boring. 0.61

00:11:19.000 Right. I mean, this is I was a fairly boring liberal arts prof.

00:11:22.000 You know, I love teaching and all that. But, you know, all these names in this piece just over and over and over.

00:11:29.000 And then they abstract from policy. I ran on policy.

00:11:32.000 Kander was pushing an amnesty, which he said that the basic principles of amnesty on all his commercials said go back to the founding fathers.

00:11:42.000 Don't think so. And then I was an economist.

00:11:44.000 You know, I've been I was I ran on the unfunded liabilities, which were about one hundred trillion back then.

00:11:50.000 And the deficits, which were small then compared to what they are now, they've been dwarfed.

00:11:55.000 And that's Federal Reserve nonsense.

00:11:59.000 Part of it was already done. Right. Oh, eight, oh, nine. That kind of triggered me, got me excited.

00:12:04.000 But, yeah, these these caricatures that come about me or the other the Freedom Caucus guys, they can't sustain themselves on a policy argument.

00:12:15.000 And they never mentioned what you mentioned in the in the dialogue there was the people.

00:12:21.000 The people don't get a voice here because when you say, well, there's just 20 representatives and it's, you know, Gingrich came out with some comments and whatever.

00:12:31.000 But what they're missing is there's only 20, because if you dare speak out, you don't get ten million dollars and you lose all your committee assignments.

00:12:39.000 And there's no that's what I just said is very significant. Right.

00:12:43.000 If you speak out on behalf of your people, your constituents in a republic, you get no money to get reelected.

00:12:52.000 I had the Republican machine come after me as well as the Democrats in elections because I followed, of all things, the Republican creed.

00:13:02.000 Right. If the Republicans would just come out and which they didn't, leadership didn't run on any promises.

00:13:09.000 But the Republican convention produces a platform which says no open borders, which we have.

00:13:16.000 We have. And they actually say in the platform we should have a wall.

00:13:19.000 Leadership doesn't say a word on that. They say we're fiscally responsible.

00:13:24.000 We just had an omnibus bill which further bankrupted the United States of America, adding to thirty two trillion dollars in debt that, as you alluded, is causing, you know, sovereign debt crises around the world right now.

00:13:38.000 Ghana is in the paper today and you just mentioned a few others.

00:13:41.000 That's going to have wrinkles. And then the the everlasting war camp.

00:13:46.000 We have a war going on now. No one's approached the American people on the basic strategy and outcomes and cost benefit of what we're getting out of this war.

00:13:55.000 And so, you know, those are just a few things that might matter to the average American or conservative.

00:14:01.000 In addition to, you know, the Republican platform has God language in it, which is inspiring.

00:14:08.000 And it locates our rights as the entire Western, you know, civ tradition does.

00:14:14.000 Our rights are inalienable rights, which tells you right there they come from God.

00:14:20.000 There's none of that in the left.

00:14:22.000 And so the Republican, the Republican at home just wants to hear that glowing language coming out.

00:14:28.000 Well, the lack of a red wave during the midterms lead to a more emboldened Biden, more wasteful government spending, higher taxes, the deepening of inflation.

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00:16:01.000 Cantor in 14.

00:16:03.000 Boehner threw a motion to vacate in 15.

00:16:06.000 Ryan in 18, retired because he couldn't take it anymore.

00:16:09.000 And now McCarthy in 2023.

00:16:11.000 Dave Brett, I know you've got to bounce, but it gets down to money and power.

00:16:16.000 This gets down to Russ Vogt, who's going to join us next, the theory of the case of the cartel.

00:16:21.000 That was the cartel leadership, right?

00:16:24.000 The heads of it.

00:16:25.000 But it goes much deeper.

00:16:27.000 They all went down.

00:16:29.000 They all went down.

00:16:31.000 And they went down for the muscle of this populist movement.

00:16:35.000 The Tea Party movement.

00:16:36.000 The Trump movement.

00:16:37.000 The Tea Party movement.

00:16:38.000 More than to the Trump movement.

00:16:39.000 The MSNBC guys are right.

00:16:40.000 They're 100% right.

00:16:41.000 You see all this other stuff, all these other networks and Fox and stuff.

00:16:44.000 It's all confusion.

00:16:45.000 But that's all fog of war.

00:16:46.000 The focus on the signal.

00:16:47.000 This is about money and power.

00:16:49.000 The Hill newspaper, which is the newspaper for the lobbyist set.

00:16:52.000 They get it.

00:16:53.000 You go down eight paragraphs.

00:16:54.000 This is what it's about.

00:16:55.000 This is what it's about.

00:16:56.000 It's about the debt ceiling and it's about the appropriations bill.

00:17:00.000 In fact, one of the guys on CNN, a former congressman, said the other day, the biggest mistake, the Senate right now is talking, the biggest mistake they think they made is not putting the debt ceiling into that ominous bill.

00:17:10.000 So we're going to get to Russ's vote here in a minute.

00:17:13.000 Dave, how do people get to you?

00:17:14.000 Because now, and I'm hearing right now that they may not, they're going to convene at 12 o'clock, but there may not be a vote.

00:17:20.000 The fourth vote, remember all the big talk of McCarthy?

00:17:22.000 We're going to stay on the floor and we're going to vote nonstop throughout the night.

00:17:26.000 We're going to keep there until we break them.

00:17:28.000 And they got to that fourth vote and Donald's, Byron Donald showed that the dam was about to break.

00:17:33.000 That's why they wanted to get off the floor so quickly.

00:17:35.000 Remember, McCarthy had told people, I'm going to, if I have to go back into conference, I'm going to retire.

00:17:39.000 I'm going to resign from the Congress and go back, get on a plane to California.

00:17:42.000 They didn't want that fourth vote, right?

00:17:44.000 They knew that other dam was just about to, there's a couple of three or four about to jump over too.

00:17:49.000 And that would be the death knell for them.

00:17:50.000 So all the big talk now, now I'm hearing they're not even going to be a vote at, at high noon.

00:17:54.000 There may be some delay there.

00:17:56.000 They don't want that fourth.

00:17:57.000 Dave Brett, you're a hero.

00:18:01.000 You came in and started this whole thing back in 14.

00:18:04.000 How do people follow you now?

00:18:05.000 Because it is about, and you're going to be back on here many, many times talking about debt ceiling appropriations because it's about money.

00:18:11.000 It's about power.

00:18:12.000 It's about the people versus the cartel.

00:18:14.000 That's what this comes down to.

00:18:16.000 Okay.

00:18:17.000 Very simple.

00:18:18.000 Dave Brett, how do folks get to you?

00:18:20.000 Yeah.

00:18:21.000 And I'll just close by saying we've empowered corporate America over this decade by the continued moderation.

00:18:29.000 Right.

00:18:30.000 And so now it's big tech with ESG and the woke CEO, Fortune 500s, and doing business with a totalitarian surveillance state called China.

00:18:42.000 The history books are going to look back at this period in shock.

00:18:45.000 And back when I was in, we made one promise, just one under Ryan and the Republican leadership, et cetera.

00:18:52.000 We were going to repeal Obamacare, and we didn't do that.

00:18:55.000 And so now we have socialized medicine, and that's a power center and a money center that no one will touch that's led into all sorts of public health fiascos because it's all centralized.

00:19:05.000 Okay.

00:19:06.000 And so your crew knows all this.

00:19:07.000 I could go on and on.

00:19:08.000 Yeah.

00:19:09.000 But I'm at Bratt Economics on Getter, and I don't do a whole lot of social media.

00:19:14.000 I love teaching and being the dean at Liberty University and working with his students.

00:19:20.000 It's my passion, and being in a Christian environment with these kids is just unbelievable.

00:19:27.000 As Dave Bratt leaves us, he said, and Bill Bratt was on here yesterday.

00:19:30.000 He said, Mike Rogers from Alabama.

00:19:32.000 Yesterday, that was a contentious conference they've ever had before they came on the floor.

00:19:37.000 He said, anybody that votes against McCarthy out there, we are stripping you of your committee assignment.

00:19:44.000 We're going to strip you of your committee assignment, which is basically the folks back home. 0.97

00:19:47.000 Hey, screw them. 0.92

00:19:48.000 And we're going to get your primary. 0.99

00:19:50.000 They're playing smash now.

00:19:51.000 This is hardball.

00:19:52.000 I got kicked out of the members' dining room.

00:19:55.000 They couldn't strip me of any more stuff.

00:19:58.000 You got kicked out of Dave Bratt.

00:20:01.000 Such a good man.

00:20:02.000 You're such a good, and you're a holy man.

00:20:04.000 You're a good man.

00:20:05.000 Thank you so much.

00:20:07.000 God bless, everyone.

00:20:08.000 Keep the faith.

00:20:09.000 And God bless everybody down at Liberty.

00:20:10.000 It's such a great university.

00:20:12.000 I got the Russ vote.

00:20:14.000 Russ, it's got a cold open.

00:20:16.000 We specifically pulled from this morning for Russ vote.

00:20:19.000 Let's play that, and we'll bring Russ in.

00:20:21.000 Of these 20 Republicans, he gets a few.

00:20:24.000 Finally, he gets there somehow.

00:20:26.000 What he's offering is a speakership that the remaining crazies can bring to a halt at a moment's notice.

00:20:34.000 So how does anything function?

00:20:36.000 How does anything happen?

00:20:37.000 Yeah, I think it's going to start off really broken.

00:20:40.000 And if he does have to give in, like I said, on the motion to vacate where they can remove him at any time, it could be a very short speakership.

00:20:47.000 You know, this is one of the things that when Paul Ryan took over said, you know, we need to get rid of this rule.

00:20:53.000 We need to change it so this is not hanging over.

00:20:55.000 I mean, we never actually got rid of it, but we kind of got a handshake deal that they wouldn't use it against him.

00:20:59.000 Yeah, he's going to have no leash to do much of anything.

00:21:02.000 The good thing is that expectations are super low that they're going to accomplish a whole lot.

00:21:07.000 It is divided government.

00:21:08.000 But there are some things you have to do.

00:21:09.000 You have to fund the government at some point.

00:21:11.000 The thing that keeps me up at night is you have to increase the debt limit.

00:21:14.000 You have to avoid a debt default.

00:21:16.000 And providing Republican votes to do that is going to be extremely hard.

00:21:20.000 And it's the kind of thing where if you even try to do it, they could kick you out.

00:21:24.000 So I have very low expectations for what they're going to be able to do.

00:21:27.000 And it's not just Kevin McCarthy.

00:21:28.000 I mean, again, this comes down to whoever is in charge.

00:21:30.000 Whoever is going to become speaker is probably going to have to live under these rules because these people have asserted their authority over the rest of the group.

00:21:39.000 And I just don't see any way out of it.

00:21:42.000 Russ Vought joins us now.

00:21:44.000 Russ, he said the quiet part out loud right there.

00:21:46.000 This is what it's about.

00:21:47.000 They're very nervous.

00:21:48.000 They're very nervous.

00:21:49.000 This is why Wall Street Journal, the fact they're coming hard because they understand it's the appropriations process for this coming year.

00:21:54.000 They took the gavel out of our hand for this to pass the omnibus.

00:21:57.000 But the thing the thing that's keeping them up at night, they see the fight for the debt ceiling right here.

00:22:03.000 Russ Vought is this is this us versus the cartel?

00:22:06.000 Absolutely.

00:22:07.000 They want the ability to not change and to be able to keep on doing what they've been doing for decades.

00:22:13.000 And they know all of your history has been totally sound.

00:22:16.000 I love the focus on Dave Brat because that was one of those canary in the coal mine moments where they knew the apparatus is coming down.

00:22:25.000 But they've been able to hide the ball on really the what the cartel is and how it functions.

00:22:31.000 And they want to continue.

00:22:33.000 You know what the debt limit is?

00:22:34.000 The debt limit right now is a balanced budget requirement that we have in law.

00:22:39.000 And then you have this former Republican staff saying the biggest thing keeping me up at night is we're not going to be able to violate the balanced budget requirement in law.

00:22:48.000 I mean, this is why we have failed for decades.

00:22:51.000 It's perfect.

00:22:52.000 That was, by the way, we're talking about that.

00:22:53.000 That was the comms director for Paul Ryan.

00:22:55.000 That was Brendan Buck.

00:22:56.000 He's a he was a big player, still a big player in the behind the scenes.

00:23:00.000 The Ross, I want to go back over that because they get it.

00:23:04.000 Everybody forget all the other happy talk.

00:23:06.000 And it's kind of the other network.

00:23:08.000 Some of the other network is so immature how they run around.

00:23:10.000 It's like it's like you're you're in some high school cafeteria, junior high school cafeteria.

00:23:14.000 This is about money and power.

00:23:16.000 OK, this is about money and power.

00:23:18.000 They understand we're facing a sovereign debt crisis.

00:23:21.000 And the only rational adults in the room is this audience.

00:23:25.000 And that's why Russ fought in what he represents in the balanced budget.

00:23:28.000 He did.

00:23:29.000 Russ, talk to us about this crisis.

00:23:31.000 You've you've given a 10 year plan of not touching Social Security and Medicare.

00:23:36.000 You've given a 10 year plan.

00:23:38.000 That's that's what this fight's about.

00:23:40.000 They understand now that if we empower if we empower the people that have understanding of what this issue is, if we're empowered now that the game stops.

00:23:52.000 Am I incorrect on that?

00:23:53.000 Is that what this fight is?

00:23:54.000 And that's why the Wall Street Journal and all the forces of corporate America.

00:23:57.000 Remember, we gave corporate America everything you want.

00:23:59.000 You gave them every tax cut you could give them all deregulations.

00:24:01.000 And they turned on you.

00:24:03.000 They turned on the American people viciously.

00:24:06.000 Is this fight about money and power, sir?

00:24:09.000 Absolutely.

00:24:10.000 And think about how a cartel works is a political cartel.

00:24:13.000 But think about how a business cartel works.

00:24:15.000 It works up into the point that someone exposes it.

00:24:18.000 A business goes out there and says, well, you know what?

00:24:20.000 I care more about the price that I'm going to get in this case.

00:24:22.000 In this case, I care more about the American people and accomplishing the objectives that they sent me to on a policy basis.

00:24:29.000 And around town, everyone likes to manage the members away from the power, which is the vote on the floor.

00:24:35.000 Or in the case of the spending, to manage them away from the appropriations fight, away from the debt limit fight.

00:24:41.000 Let's have some commissions and hearings and things.

00:24:44.000 No, let's not talk about appropriations.

00:24:46.000 Let's talk about Social Security.

00:24:48.000 Not what we fund every year, the bureaucracy.

00:24:50.000 All of that are shiny object devices that are designed by the cartel intentionally to distract away from the leverage points that the American people have to change the way that Washington works.

00:25:02.000 We are seeing that today and yesterday.

00:25:05.000 Today will be the day of slander.

00:25:07.000 We will overcome the day of slander.

00:25:09.000 And we will continue to crush the cartel.

00:25:12.000 What do you mean?

00:25:13.000 People, just be aware, folks.

00:25:15.000 You and your warriors here are about to be called a lot of bad names.

00:25:21.000 Talk to us about the slander day.

00:25:23.000 Today's going to get pretty ugly and pretty tough.

00:25:25.000 Is it not, sir?

00:25:26.000 It is.

00:25:27.000 I mean, yesterday they tried to project some happy feelings on the floor of the house.

00:25:31.000 And you're totally right.

00:25:32.000 They lost control when all of a sudden 19 posted.

00:25:35.000 No, not the five that Mark Levin's been making fun of.

00:25:38.000 They posted 19.

00:25:39.000 And then Byron Donald showed that the roof was about to cave in.

00:25:43.000 So next thing you know, we're not talking about cots being brought out to have votes throughout the night.

00:25:47.000 Now we're talking about, oh, everyone go to their dinner.

00:25:50.000 So that's going to continue today.

00:25:52.000 And you're going to see that they're going to bring out all the people to say, oh, these people are grandstanding.

00:25:58.000 Why grandstanding?

00:25:59.000 Because that's what the exposure of the cartel does.

00:26:02.000 It's going to happen all day today.

00:26:04.000 And we've got to play whack-a-mole wherever we can, even when it hurts.

00:26:09.000 Even when we have friends and old allies on the line, we've got to play whack-a-mole.

00:26:13.000 You don't call us grandstanders.

00:26:15.000 You're the one that's protecting the cartel.

00:26:17.000 Russ Vogt, today people need to stay in touch with you on social media and over at your great organization on your website.

00:26:26.000 How do people do it?

00:26:27.000 Because there's going to be many friends, many colleagues, people who admire President Trump.

00:26:31.000 You know, there's no two bigger supporters of President Trump than Russ and myself.

00:26:36.000 President Trump came out hard for McCarthy a little while ago.

00:26:39.000 There's going to be friends and colleagues, and it's going to get nasty.

00:26:41.000 So how do they follow you, Russ?

00:26:43.000 At Russ Vogt, at Getter, at Truth, at Twitter, and they can get us at the center at americarenewing.com.

00:26:50.000 Right now, all the action's on the social media channels.

00:26:53.000 By the way, Russ is the exact type of warrior.

00:26:56.000 When you're in a foxhole, you want Russ Vogt next to you.

00:26:59.000 Brother, thank you.

00:27:00.000 Thanks, Steve.

00:27:01.000 Proud to have you on the show.

00:27:02.000 Thank you, sir.

00:27:04.000 Okay.

00:27:05.000 Another warrior, Corey Lewandowski, who's been there from the beginning.

00:27:09.000 Corey's going to join us after a short commercial break.

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00:28:43.000 Okay, welcome back.

00:28:48.000 By the way, still up in the air what we're going to be doing at noon.

00:28:50.000 We thought this was going to be the pregame.

00:28:52.000 I think they're going to convene.

00:28:54.000 Don't even know if they're going to vote.

00:28:55.000 Not having a conference right now.

00:28:57.000 The great John Levin over at the New York Post.

00:29:00.000 He's the weekend editor breaking.

00:29:04.000 Just talked to he's putting a represent of Matt Gates tells Levin at the New York Post.

00:29:09.000 The Gates has the votes to stop Kevin McCarthy from becoming speaker today.

00:29:15.000 I want I want to bring in Corey Lewandowski.

00:29:17.000 Corey was the campaign manager in the primary that this kind of come from behind come out of nowhere.

00:29:23.000 Primary historic primary President Trump 1 in 16 with really Corey Hope Hicks.

00:29:29.000 And I think I think we put Stephen on the plane one or two other people.

00:29:33.000 Corey, people don't know your background.

00:29:35.000 You actually you were state trooper.

00:29:37.000 But before you in fact, you were tapped.

00:29:39.000 Dave Bossie had was on a search, I think, for present then candidate Trump back in as early as I think 14.

00:29:45.000 And he had heard about you and your work as a grassroots organized and a grassroots guy.

00:29:51.000 You probably have a better feel for the grassroots and just about anybody in what we call Trump world.

00:29:56.000 And some things have happened in the last couple of days.

00:29:59.000 We've got the speakers fight, but we also have Ronald McDaniel yesterday.

00:30:02.000 She's on Fox nonstop.

00:30:03.000 Karl Rove and Ronald McDaniel are the kind of flip flop where they throw Newton every now and again.

00:30:07.000 But she's just all in for McCarthy.

00:30:09.000 We've been making the case here that the speakership race in the in the in the in the head of the RNC chair race are kind of inextricably linked.

00:30:18.000 Do you agree with that theory or not?

00:30:20.000 Steve, I absolutely agree.

00:30:22.000 Look, a couple of things we've got to remind your viewers of.

00:30:25.000 Number one, Mitch McConnell should have lost his race for leader in the Republican Party.

00:30:30.000 Now the longest serving Republican leader in history, which is outrageous.

00:30:34.000 We lost the U.S. Senate because of what happened under McConnell's leadership.

00:30:38.000 But he beat back Rick Scott for that challenge.

00:30:42.000 Kevin McCarthy, even though the Republicans took back the majority, is going to be held accountable.

00:30:47.000 I think will ultimately be denied the speaker's gavel because he weighed in in primaries against good candidates.

00:30:54.000 He weighed in against candidates who went on to win not only their primary against Kevin's recommendation,

00:30:59.000 but their general elections because they were America first candidates.

00:31:02.000 And Ronna Romney McDaniel, who has been the RNC chair for six years, who stood up in front of Amelia Island two years ago and said, I just need two more years.

00:31:11.000 This will be my last term is now saying that the 168, the magical 168 is saying they need to have her for two more years. 0.83

00:31:19.000 Steve, when you lose elections, there has to be consequences.

00:31:22.000 And I think what we should see, what we will see is Kevin McCarthy will be denied the gavel and hopefully Ronna Romney will be denied the RNC chairmanship again.

00:31:31.000 Let's go back to, let's take McCarthy first and we'll take Ronna. 0.77

00:31:34.000 When you say denied the gavel, you've been, Corey's the kind of guy also when you're in a firefight, you want him in the foxhole next to you.

00:31:41.000 This is getting intense.

00:31:42.000 It's getting personal.

00:31:44.000 There's no bigger supporter of President Trump than Russ Vought or Corey Lewandowski or Steve Bannon.

00:31:48.000 President Trump came out after thinking about it overnight, came out hard for McCarthy.

00:31:53.000 How tough is it going to get today?

00:31:55.000 And you've been in these fights before.

00:31:57.000 Why are you saying that he's going to be denied the gavel?

00:31:59.000 His guys are right now saying, hey, we don't care about Gates and this guy.

00:32:02.000 We're going to stay and we're going to vote and are going to conference.

00:32:05.000 And we don't care if we keep people here for five days.

00:32:07.000 We're going to break these people.

00:32:08.000 So what's your assessment of that?

00:32:10.000 Well, Kevin made a strategic mistake yesterday by letting people go home.

00:32:14.000 If it were me and I would have been the person running for speaker, I would have made them sit in those chairs until people are smelly and dirty and filthy and said, fine, vote for me because I'll let you go and shower. 1.00

00:32:25.000 He didn't do that. 0.82

00:32:26.000 It shows weakness.

00:32:27.000 If it were Corey Lewandowski, I would have said, I don't care what your plans are.

00:32:31.000 We're staying here until this vote is done and I'm the next Speaker of the House.

00:32:35.000 And if you want to extract me from the speaker's office, you better bring the Capitol Police because Lewandowski isn't going anywhere.

00:32:42.000 Kevin doesn't have that toughness to him.

00:32:44.000 And the truth is, guys like Matt Gates and Anna Paulina Luna and others who are not supporting his speakership are doing so on principle.

00:32:53.000 And these principled individuals aren't going to change because Donald Trump says to or not.

00:32:58.000 I am a huge Donald Trump supporter.

00:33:01.000 I've been there from the beginning.

00:33:02.000 Steve, the grassroots is angry because we've been taken advantage of again.

00:33:06.000 And because six years ago when we thought we had a new speaker coming in and was going to be Kevin at the time, it was a consensus candidate.

00:33:13.000 His name was Paul Ryan.

00:33:14.000 And he screwed us in the first two years of the Trump administration.

00:33:17.000 And we haven't forgotten it yet.

00:33:20.000 I want to go to and by the way, the fight you just saw there and the angle of attack and the attitude is exactly why Trump won the primary with a handful of people.

00:33:29.000 That's exactly that's the swagger.

00:33:32.000 Need a little of that swagger back, brother.

00:33:34.000 I want to go to Rana.

00:33:36.000 People that a guy I consider a brother and you consider a brother, Dave Bossy, and I consider Dave's, you know, we brought him in right away to be the deputy campaign chairman or campaign head in 16 when we won.

00:33:47.000 It was because of guys like Dave Bossy, who knows how to get down the trenches.

00:33:51.000 Dave supports her.

00:33:52.000 So and Dave's been part of that.

00:33:54.000 He's a chairman of Maryland.

00:33:55.000 Dave knows a lot more about that, Corey, than than Corey and Steve.

00:33:58.000 So what's your what's your take?

00:34:00.000 What's your take?

00:34:01.000 What's your beef with Rana?

00:34:04.000 But my beef is this, Steve.

00:34:05.000 Elections matter.

00:34:06.000 And you show me what we have done as the national party to put us in a stronger position.

00:34:12.000 The red wave did not come across that it was supposed to in 2022.

00:34:16.000 We did not see success in 2020.

00:34:19.000 We didn't see success in 2018.

00:34:21.000 And the truth is, Rana will become, if she's reelected, the first chairman in like 100 years to serve four terms.

00:34:28.000 There are other people who can do this.

00:34:30.000 And she sat there in front of the committee two years ago and said, I just want to do two more years.

00:34:35.000 What happens with these people?

00:34:37.000 And it reminds me of members of Congress who talk about term limits is, hey, term limits are for thee, but not for me.

00:34:43.000 The rules apply to everybody else, but not for me.

00:34:45.000 Let's let somebody get in there. 0.99

00:34:47.000 Harmeet is a very smart woman.

00:34:49.000 She's the national committee woman from California.

00:34:51.000 She's the head of Republican lawyers for the country.

00:34:54.000 And look, we need new leadership at the RNC.

00:34:57.000 I'm so sick of hearing, hey, we knocked on this many doors, made this many phone calls.

00:35:01.000 I don't care if we didn't win.

00:35:03.000 So go start winning elections.

00:35:05.000 Go start making sure that our candidates are the right ones.

00:35:08.000 Stop living off the grift and the corruption that takes place through that building and start getting success.

00:35:14.000 And if we would have had a massive victory like we did when Barack Obama was the president or when Bill Clinton was the president, where we won 63 and 54 seats respectively in the first midterm, then Ronald Romney deserves to stay.

00:35:26.000 But that's not what happened here.

00:35:27.000 So let's have some accountability.

00:35:29.000 How do you see this playing out?

00:35:31.000 The Ronald thing is going to heat up, obviously, in the next couple of days.

00:35:33.000 We've got Caroline Wren in the second hour of the show. 1.00

00:35:36.000 How do you see this playing out?

00:35:38.000 You're not just a brilliant strategist.

00:35:40.000 You're a pretty good tactician when you get into a fight.

00:35:43.000 And it's kind of fog of war, the moves you make.

00:35:45.000 I think that even though the dam was going to break and that's why they wanted to get out of the floor, I agree that if you're going to grind these guys, you should have grinded them overnight last night and made it hurt.

00:35:55.000 And now I hear they're not even coming in for a vote at noon.

00:35:59.000 This is what I'm hearing that may be a little different.

00:36:01.000 It's changing minute by minute because they're afraid of losing these votes.

00:36:04.000 How do you think this thing plays out?

00:36:06.000 And do you think it plays out toward Jordan or somebody else will emerge structurally?

00:36:10.000 Walk us through the Corey Lewandowski view of the tactics here.

00:36:15.000 Steve, I think that Ray Yonkour, who is Jim Jordan's guy, should be making calls behind the scenes to say Jim actually wants this job.

00:36:21.000 And if Jim comes out publicly and says, I want it, I think you'll see 80 to 100 votes go for Jim on the next vote.

00:36:27.000 Look, Kevin is losing votes every round.

00:36:30.000 He's down 20 right now.

00:36:32.000 Even guys like Byron Donalds from Florida are starting to vote for Jim Jordan.

00:36:37.000 Once that dam breaks, there's no stopping it.

00:36:39.000 Is Steve Scalise an alternative?

00:36:41.000 Potentially.

00:36:42.000 Is Jim Banks an alternative?

00:36:43.000 Potentially.

00:36:44.000 Look, I've heard the name Elise Stefanik thrown around. 0.91

00:36:46.000 I think where we are is Kevin made the strategic decision to let people go home.

00:36:51.000 I think it was a bad decision.

00:36:52.000 I also think his whip team has been has done a terrible job.

00:36:55.000 They thought they were going into the first round, Steve, with five votes short.

00:36:59.000 There were 19 votes short.

00:37:01.000 How do you not out of count?

00:37:02.000 I mean, give me a break.

00:37:03.000 This is all you guys do.

00:37:05.000 And it tells me the weakness of the operation and what Kevin is going to do potentially is you're going to have to join with Democrats if he actually wants to get this done.

00:37:13.000 And if he does that and gives them the committee assignments that they want and the power that they want to wield, then we have been no better than if Hakeem Jeffries was the chairman of the Speaker of the House.

00:37:24.000 By the way, talk about the tactics.

00:37:26.000 I think itself, the guy from the replace the guy that had the problem up in North Texas, he's telling people yesterday nobody in the whip team ever called him.

00:37:33.000 He said they should have added my name to it.

00:37:35.000 He said I wasn't going to volunteer it, but I would have told him if they called me.

00:37:37.000 He said he's never got a call.

00:37:38.000 Byron Donalds is a McCarthy guy.

00:37:41.000 He was made by McCarthy. 0.90

00:37:42.000 He's kind of a made man.

00:37:43.000 That's not a small thing.

00:37:45.000 When he comes out to CNN after the second round said, hey, I don't see how the guy gets to 218.

00:37:49.000 I'm going to jump on the Jordan train.

00:37:51.000 That's a big deal.

00:37:52.000 He's he's one of Kevin's guys.

00:37:54.000 Go ahead, sir.

00:37:55.000 Self Donald's Andy Ogles from Tennessee who used to work for me.

00:37:59.000 I've known for 20 years.

00:38:01.000 Nobody called Andy.

00:38:02.000 They just assumed he was going to vote for him.

00:38:04.000 No one called Anna Paulina Luna down in Florida, a veteran who is a phenomenal candidate, right?

00:38:09.000 She's our candidate. 0.82

00:38:10.000 We look at these candidates across the country.

00:38:12.000 How does the whip operation not have a communication tool for all of them?

00:38:16.000 I can count to 218.

00:38:18.000 My 10 year old can count to 218.

00:38:20.000 It's amazing to me that the McCarthy team can't count to 218.

00:38:23.000 They are so consumed with getting that gavel in front of them that they didn't do the due diligence.

00:38:28.000 And I I'll tell you, Steve, I don't see how Kevin gets there.

00:38:32.000 I really don't.

00:38:33.000 I think you're going to see a consensus candidate.

00:38:35.000 The fact that Jim Jordan made an impassioned speech from the floor yesterday and Kevin lost a vote on the third vote after Jim made that speech should tell you everything you need to know that even with Jim support, it's not coming around.

00:38:49.000 Big time.

00:38:50.000 Real quickly, if whoever the speaker is, give me your angle of tackle what this house has to do.

00:38:56.000 What's what does this house have to do on appropriations, on debt ceiling, on investigations? 0.88

00:38:59.000 Give us the Corey Lewandowski strategy for the house.

00:39:02.000 Steve, number one, impeach my orca.

00:39:04.000 OK, that's a simple thing to do.

00:39:05.000 It should have been done already.

00:39:06.000 Right.

00:39:07.000 It's the first vote that they should do.

00:39:08.000 And they have the votes to do it.

00:39:09.000 OK, number two, you better stop giving money to the Ukraine.

00:39:13.000 Sixty eight billion dollars.

00:39:14.000 Look, you know, this guy walks in with a flag signed by a bunch of jamokes over in Ukraine. 0.92

00:39:18.000 They say, hey, let's you know, let's give us another sixty eight billion.

00:39:21.000 What the hell is going on here?

00:39:23.000 When when do we start putting America first?

00:39:25.000 Steve, the conservatives are steaming mad because they're taking our money and sending it to everybody else for border security.

00:39:33.000 You close the border.

00:39:34.000 You fund the border wall, which you and I have talked about for the last six years.

00:39:38.000 You make sure America comes first. 0.98

00:39:40.000 It's not America last.

00:39:42.000 You do that as a Republican majority and the Senate will come our way and we win the White House in two years also.

00:39:50.000 You agree that this is the predicate.

00:39:52.000 This is going to be run as the predicate for President Trump's second term.

00:39:55.000 We've got to look at this as two years that we've got to chop, clear a lot of brush underway so that we get back in 20.

00:40:00.000 We get back in January 25 and really run the tables.

00:40:03.000 Correct.

00:40:04.000 That's your theory of the case here.

00:40:05.000 That's exactly right, Steve.

00:40:07.000 And look, our last line of defense right now are these Republican governors around the country.

00:40:10.000 Ron DeSantis and Henry McMaster and others that are stopping what's going on from the administration.

00:40:16.000 I give praise to Greg Abbott down in Texas and so many others who stepped up and said we won't take this anymore.

00:40:22.000 And so, look, if we have to, we will use the governor's executive authorities around this country to prevent the overreach from the federal government and take them to court.

00:40:30.000 Because every time we go to court, Biden's administration loses.

00:40:34.000 We've done a great job on that.

00:40:36.000 We need to keep that pressure on them.

00:40:38.000 Corey, how do people get to you on social media?

00:40:40.000 How do they get to your writings and your website?

00:40:42.000 Look, best thing to do is go to Elon, baby, which is just Twitter.

00:40:45.000 Go to see Lewandowski at the Elon panel, right?

00:40:48.000 I mean, look, Elon is the only thing that saved us.

00:40:50.000 What we now know, Steve, is that the big tech companies have colluded to go against guys like me and you.

00:40:56.000 So thank you, Elon, for giving us a platform.

00:40:58.000 Thank you for exposing the corruption that's going on out there.

00:41:01.000 And let's keep up the fight.

00:41:04.000 Corey Lewandowski, thank you very much.

00:41:06.000 Thank you for your for your swagger, sir.

00:41:08.000 Appreciate it.

00:41:09.000 Take care.

00:41:11.000 That's the kind of fight we need.

00:41:13.000 Right.

00:41:14.000 I don't get I mean, this is what one in 16.

00:41:17.000 And remember, they mocked and ridiculed Corey.

00:41:20.000 Oh, he's some grassroots guy.

00:41:21.000 He's working up with, I think, the Americans for Prosperity up in New Hampshire.

00:41:25.000 Who is this guy?

00:41:26.000 And he ran a magnificent primary campaign, came out of nowhere to absolutely stun everybody.

00:41:32.000 That's the kind of fight, swagger, cussedness that you need right now.

00:41:36.000 It's going to get extremely ugly over the next couple of days.

00:41:40.000 So just strap in.

00:41:41.000 If you want to say, hey, we've got to take it on now.

00:41:43.000 We've got to break the cartel now.

00:41:45.000 We can't we can't we can't give an inch here.

00:41:48.000 If you give an inch, they're just going to run the table.

00:41:51.000 They're just going to roll you. 0.87

00:41:52.000 Okay, we're gonna take a short break.

00:41:53.000 We got Mike Davis is going to join us.

00:41:54.000 Give us his thoughts.

00:41:56.000 We've had quite a morning so far with Brett, Russ and Corey.

00:42:00.000 We got Russ.

00:42:01.000 I got Norman in the in the second hour.

00:42:04.000 We got Caroline Wren, others. 0.66

00:42:06.000 We're also got we got to get some other news into.

00:42:08.000 We're going to figure out how to get it all in around the Ralph Norman interview in the next hour.

00:42:13.000 Short commercial break.

00:42:14.000 Mike Davis will join us on the other side.

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00:44:25.000 Okay, I just want to make sure that because this is inextricably linked with the history of this.

00:44:34.000 And a lot of people, this audience knows most of it.

00:44:39.000 Some of them know all of it.

00:44:40.000 But when you look at the Fox and the CNN MSC, they have no earthy idea what's going on.

00:44:44.000 You had the Reagan revolution in 80, right?

00:44:47.000 Right.

00:44:48.000 And that was sorted by the Bush guy, starting with Jim Baker and that crowd, even as early as 84.

00:44:53.000 Right.

00:44:54.000 You then had the Gingrich revolution in 94.

00:44:57.000 And, uh, and Mike Davis, one of our big contributors was part of that as a young intern towards the end of that.

00:45:03.000 Then had the tea party revolt of 2010, which we won 63 seats.

00:45:07.000 Now we did win it off 174 base.

00:45:09.000 So we got, we got up to the, what the mid two forties, two thirties and house seats.

00:45:15.000 And then you had the day Brad.

00:45:17.000 We started to 14, which Bardell is walking through the day, which the taking down of the kind of the young guns, the canner Boehner, Ryan, and now McCarthy.

00:45:25.000 Then you had Trump come on the scene really in 14.

00:45:28.000 Uh, but particularly in 15 when he announced, but he was actually working it in 14 right after the, uh, in fact, the first time I actually saw him in real action besides the CPACs was in.

00:45:38.000 In 2014 in New Hampshire on the 1st of May, uh, uh, uh, a cattle call put on by Dave bossy, which Trump dominated, right?

00:45:47.000 Uh, 30 days after that was Dave Brett's stunning primary defeat.

00:45:52.000 The first time in American history of a sitting majority leader, Eric canner.

00:45:55.000 When Dave Brad talked about, he only raised $150,000.

00:45:58.000 Dave Brad raised $150,000.

00:46:00.000 He spent 125,000, 25,000 in the bank.

00:46:03.000 He spent 125 in a primary.

00:46:06.000 Eric canner had spent more for one dinner at, uh, at, uh, Johnny Vans or whatever it is, uh, in, in DC for, for donors.

00:46:15.000 He had spent more in one dinner than Dave Brad spent on the entire campaign.

00:46:19.000 And then you had the, uh, then you had the rise of the Trump movement of the surprise stunning victory in 16, which really made Mitch McConnell because we dragged, you know, Blunt and Toomey and Johnson across the finish line and Burr at the end.

00:46:32.000 They didn't think we're going to take the Senate.

00:46:34.000 That was all Donald Trump.

00:46:35.000 And here we are today in 2023.

00:46:37.000 And that's what this, this fight is.

00:46:39.000 It is about the cartel.

00:46:41.000 And if you're going to continue to do it, what the opposition, instead of, Oh, we're constitutional conservatives.

00:46:46.000 You guys are populous. 0.98

00:46:47.000 You guys are terrible. 1.00

00:46:48.000 Just let's, let's, let's, let's cut all the crap. 1.00

00:46:51.000 Let's put all that aside. 0.91

00:46:52.000 Let's talk about the reality here.

00:46:54.000 We're a nation that is stone cold bankrupt, except the fact that our number one export happens to be the U S dollar.

00:47:00.000 Right.

00:47:01.000 And now you're seeing sophisticated people around the country saying, Hey, look, I think we're seeing a potential sovereign debt crisis in Japan.

00:47:06.000 Right.

00:47:07.000 A potential sovereign debt crisis in Italy, which is the seventh biggest industrial economy in the world.

00:47:12.000 Okay.

00:47:13.000 Essentially a sovereign debt crisis in the UK, a sovereign debt crisis in China.

00:47:17.000 And guess what?

00:47:18.000 A Simon are truly a sovereign debt crisis here in the good old United States of America. 0.90

00:47:22.000 This is serious.

00:47:23.000 Until they can come back with a theory of how you actually do this, how you get control of spending.

00:47:28.000 What do you do with the debt ceiling?

00:47:29.000 What do you do with the debt and the unfunded liabilities until they come with a serious adult argument?

00:47:35.000 Screw them.

00:47:36.000 Okay.

00:47:37.000 This is called command by negation in military and in mergers and acquisitions and hostile takeovers.

00:47:42.000 This is called command by negation.

00:47:44.000 All you got to do is hang together.

00:47:47.000 Mike Davis, you've been, you've been around this a long time.

00:47:50.000 Is there anything in my history there?

00:47:52.000 Am I, am I, is it's been the populist grassroots limited government conservative movement versus the cartel for many, many years now.

00:48:00.000 And this is just the latest iteration.

00:48:02.000 And that's why I've all the smoke that run around and all this misdirection play.

00:48:05.000 It gets down to money and power.

00:48:07.000 Is that not true, sir?

00:48:09.000 That's absolutely right.

00:48:10.000 And when you have people like Kevin McCarthy, you know, he takes money from corporate PACs and he does their bidding.

00:48:19.000 Whether it's the trillion dollar big tech, big, big, big tech monopolist, Google, Amazon, Facebook and Apple, the pharmaceutical industry, the military industry.

00:48:30.000 If you want Kevin McCarthy's attention, you better have a $5,000 PAC check because he does not, he has shown over the last many years he does not give a damn about everyday Americans in the real world.

00:48:44.000 Whether it is the BLM Antifa riots, COVID lockdowns, the gender chaos in schools, gender affirming care, which is the Democrats nice way of saying mutilating kids with surgeries and hormone pills.

00:49:01.000 Where has Kevin McCarthy been on these key fights over the last many years?

00:49:07.000 We are under siege since 2020 from the Marxist left.

00:49:12.000 We no longer have a liberal Democrat party.

00:49:14.000 We have a leftist party.

00:49:16.000 Let's leave the Democrats aside.

00:49:18.000 How did the corporate, you got the oligarchs in Silicon Valley, you got big pharma, you got the military industrial complex, you got so many veterans in our movement.

00:49:25.000 How did the corporations, which used to be the bedrock of the Republican party that you take care of the, you know, the business of America's business, you give them tax cuts, you give them deregulation, all's gonna be good.

00:49:36.000 How did that get to be almost a more threatening and more radical aspect than even the radicals in the Democratic party, sir?

00:49:43.000 Because the Marxist left have, have taken over, has taken over every institution in America, whether it's government, academia, corporate boards through, you know, these pain in the pain in the neck employees and pain in the neck, activist investors.

00:50:01.000 These boards have gone woke to try to silence them, Coca-Cola, many other companies.

00:50:07.000 It, they, the left is so much better, so much smarter, so much subversive than, than we are as conservatives.

00:50:14.000 They know how to, to earn power.

00:50:16.000 They know how to take power.

00:50:17.000 They know how to win.

00:50:18.000 And, uh, they've done this over the last two decades, actually longer than that, but they, they, I mean, when they've taken over, they've taken over the military.

00:50:27.000 When the, the Marxist left have, has taken over the, the military, you know, there were in trouble.

00:50:32.000 And where has Kevin McCarthy been?

00:50:34.000 Like, where has he been?

00:50:35.000 He is, he's basically investor relations from the Marxist left.

00:50:40.000 He just takes their calls and does their bidding.

00:50:42.000 And, and, and where you're seeing this most is really the, the thing has choked us down.

00:50:47.000 They had another dump last night of the CIA and the FBI involvement in Twitter about the, about the, the hard drive from hell, the laptop from hell is absolutely stunning.

00:50:56.000 What, what, what big tech did in the merger with the FBI and the CIA is nothing more than a, I mean, I'm stunned by these revelations.

00:51:04.000 They're just, they're actually draw dropping.

00:51:06.000 I tell you what, Mike, if we can hold you through a break, it's a 90 second break.

00:51:08.000 Cause I want to ask Mike Davis, uh, who is a fighter.

00:51:12.000 How does this play out today?

00:51:13.000 We're hearing right now is still up in the air.

00:51:15.000 Are they going to come back and have the fourth vote?

00:51:17.000 They're not going to have the fourth vote.

00:51:18.000 We thought they're going to stay there all day long or they're in conference or not in conference.

00:51:22.000 Uh, it's the fog of war.

00:51:24.000 And that's what this audience likes best in the land of the blind.

00:51:29.000 The one eyed man is King.

00:51:31.000 We're going to play some one eyed Jackson. 0.98

00:51:33.000 We get back short commercial break.

00:51:35.000 Mike Davis joins us.

00:51:36.000 Think we're getting John Frederick's Caroline ran.

00:51:38.000 We're jammed up today on RNC chair and the speakership.

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Bannon's War Room - January 04, 2023

Episode 2417： The Plan That Started In 2014; Overcoming Day Of Slander

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