Episode 2422: The Fight For The Gavel Continues
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Summary
When's it going to end? Is the debt ceiling crisis over? What's next for the House of Representatives and President Trump? Is it time for a new Speaker of the House, and who will be the new Speaker?
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Because we're going to medieval on these people.
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You're just not going to free shot all these networks lying about the people.
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I know you've tried to do everything in the world to stop that.
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But you're not going to stop it. It's going to happen.
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And where do people like that go to share the big line?
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I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.
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Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?
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If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.
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And we, you know, exhale when there are signs of...
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The people that are in charge are the insurrectionists,
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the wax, the kooks, and Marjorie Taylor Greene.
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They're in charge, and they don't want it to end.
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And understand, they've been trying for a long time to be in charge.
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because as soon as they let this moment go in regular order,
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they just, even with some of these concessions,
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they still aren't going to have the same control.
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in the face of an impossible or an immovable object,
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And that is being tested by both sides right now.
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Kevin McCarthy today needed to demonstrate that he could move voters.
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So now the question is, where do we go from here?
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There are those that are willing to consider moving towards Kevin,
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And trust, as Garrett said, is one of the biggest currencies in this.
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In the Never Kevin, the true Never Kevin crowd,
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There is no concession that you could give them
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because they don't trust Kevin will come through with it.
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So, Kevin's option right now is to show that he can move people.
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And maybe he can move a few, but he can't move five or six of them.
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If that's it, you take the blood oath and you say,
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One of them has to shift this power dynamic right now.
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You want to compromise in a coalition and to get the people paid
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and get on with the business and set up the committees.
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Donald J. Trump will be voted tonight or tomorrow
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And the Republicans say, we're going to do it for a hundred days.
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And in the hundred days, you get everything set up,
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They said, oh, the crisis is going to hit us in the summer of fall.
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that understands how to do these types of negotiations
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and his entire professional career is doing that
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You want to talk about a national security problem?
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We're now into the numbers of votes that it was,
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the most being 133 that brought Nathaniel Banks
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okay um andy biggs right there heard his voice voted voted for her of
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oklahoma i think we're the first ones the other day to be talking about her he's voting for mccarthy
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uh general um donald bacon's congressman now from um nebraska uh congressman bacon has now gone on tv
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a couple times and said uh about how they're going to get some sort of moderates to start working with
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democrats brett bear of fox news proposed that as saying that's the way mccarthy can break this
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that's an alternative said that on one of the fox shows at uh at noon the one that they're sitting
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on the couch um he proposed that we'll get to that at the bottom with um with um uh boris
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boris will be here at the bottom or seb gorka next uh i want everybody to and and then he said something
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about you know in the districts we want to hear from people we're hearing from people no in the
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districts right now what you're hearing is overwhelmingly uh we don't want you to vote for
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mccarthy we know that the number is 202-225-3121 make sure you call and let your congressman
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know what you're thinking make sure you know if you have to get the local office number of your
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congressman and call his local office and let them know and by the way if you support mccarthy that's
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fine tell me you support mccarthy we're not here to tell you what to think uh but we do believe it is
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very important for you to have your voice heard because that's one of the one of the things we're
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look we know there's a lot of people on the fence on either on on one side of this i think david jolly
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and david is a former congressman from florida he's no friend of uh he's no friend of maga and he's no
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friend of uh of the trump movement uh but he is uh he is a um uh he's a very smart guy and he he the of the
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20 you have two camps you have one that have pushed this and wanted a package to make this
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less central control by the speaker the speaker's taking dictatorial power right and they want to
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break that and for all my constitutional conservative uh colleagues uh and friends and all that um that
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are particularly the people that are all over uh these 20 as just being the worst thing and slowing
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down all the people at fox news um why did it take them to get this reform package this reform
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package is huge in fact the reason mccarthy can't totally close the deal he's got guys in in in his
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camp they're saying you're giving too much particularly on the rules committee on on some
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of these subcommittees on on the joint uh task force of uh of uh the committee the new church committee
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church commission you're giving too much and and even some seniority in these in these uh in these
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committees saying i'm not prepared to give up my seniority his his blowback his pushback right now
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is giving up too much but why was that never mentioned by anybody why did why did it take
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these 20 and they've been vilified they've been vilified by people that call themselves constitutional
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conservatives constitutional conservatives why did it take them to do it if they had just rolled
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over all these guys to get the pom-poms out for mccarthy if they had just voted and done it none
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of these reforms have been made you would not open up one of the great and trump once again had it
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right one of the great um this is a teaching moment you know a lot of people are actually watching
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congress for the first time and a lot of people are under the impression it's like the house of
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commons for for those like political debate if you watch question time it comes on i think weekly on
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bbc bbc american for junkies like myself and others you watch it just incredible they're up
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and then the grill of the prime minister and they're asking questions always very articulate
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in the kind of the the the the the high version of the english language and also you know you've got
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the east enders but it's just fantastic and it's give and take you got to be on your feet it's it's
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tough it's brutal as it should be that's how they wanted commons to be people are under the impression
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that's happens in congress every day i mean matt rosendale we're so proud to have matt on here
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congressman from eastern montana we'll play that maybe in the six o'clock hour have a little time he
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gave a a uh a speech to put donald's name byron donald's name in in nomination today and it was
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a fantastic speech about how this is a teaching moment people think this is how it always works
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it doesn't all the reforms if you've gone along with the folks who just wanted mccarthy
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none of this would have been done so in as course we're not saying vote for mccarthy
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but the those are the 20 that are there are people in the 20 that think about us no doubt
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they're negotiating back and forth now there are some of the 20 david jolly said there's one core
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was one group that's never going to happen they don't trust him they said we opened the show with
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they about trust they don't trust him there's others that don't trust him but think that if they
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get this package they'll open it up so much and particularly change the rules remember the speaker
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this one thing where the speaker determines what comes to the floor to be voted on
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no you want to you want to build the wall you want to um you want to designate the uh the mexican
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cartels as a terrorist organization would do all these things you want to do right term limits all
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this you want to do that the speaker is the one that that that runs the deal there they have really
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taken power away from these imperial speakers so for all my constitutional conservatives that are
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dumping on the 20 excuse me you guys want to roll over and vote for mccarthy right then you
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didn't want any reforms you weren't reformers you didn't want to take the institution and break it
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apart let me bring in dr seb gorka dr gorka thank you we've got it right there if if uh because i can't
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see right because of you know don't have my glasses on if you can please tell me when we hit the magic
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number right that he'll lose the 10th round because he's going to lose it here momentarily
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dr gorka give us your assessment of where we are sir i'm just massively impressed you're the only
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podcast host in america who knows what east enders is um so you know i i think my newsmax colleagues
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were shocked yesterday when i told them this is what parliamentary republicism looks like i enough
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with the stinking behind closed doors deals and in conference i couldn't give a damn about your
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conference you can't wait two days after 40 years of the gop screwing us you can't wait two days i mean
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i had a caller on my show today said we know the republican voters have been charlie brown for 40
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years and and and the rhinos have been lucy taking away the football well now it's our turn you can
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wait two days you can wait two weeks and and um i had dave bratt on on my show just a few moments ago
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and he made this point as a former congressman and i know he's a regular on your show you got to
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understand the speaker is an emperor it's just like you said he gets to decide what legislation comes to
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the floor he gets to apportion the committee seat so hang on a second this isn't this excuse i keep
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hearing oh well the freedom caucus 20 can just block any legislation they don't like no not if the king
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is kevin mccarthy so i he'll probably be speaker but hang on let me just share with you you know hot
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off the press before i went on the air today somebody from mar-a-lago who you know but whose uh
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name will not be released um sent me the following now the the gateway pundit not always reliable but
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there's this article from the gateway pundit it's about somebody called steve bannon huge steve bannon
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calls for president trump to for speaker and here's the buried lead reliable source says president trump
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would do it now that's from mar-a-lago about two hours ago i tweeted this in response that i think is
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is rather fun how about president trump comes to dc tomorrow to broker the deal for speaker or become
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the speaker on january the 6th uh peaceful and patriotic hashtag
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dr gorka uh welcome by the way i want to report that uh that mccarthy has lost the 10th round so
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we're now in truly in historic uh territory uh we are now in pre-civil war america essentially about
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the fight here but this fight is for high principles don't believe that don't believe the chaos theory this
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is not chaos at all there is a process here dr gorka you mentioned the parliamentary we're not a
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parliamentary system but what has happened over the last couple days has been nothing sure of
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extraordinary would you agree with that utterly and in a good way so you know as i tweeted out
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less than 24 hours ago and it's already got you know 104 000 impressions i was shocked i said
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um i'm okay with a little bit of chaos how about you i i can stand it if if we've been through
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you know a civil war world war one world war ii korea vietnam 9 11 i think we can delay congress
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for a couple of days because the average american the real american that runs this country by driving
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the trucks by you know welding the rigs do you think they'd notice if congress didn't function for
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the next six months steve no honestly not at all no not at all no not at all so so what what we're
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seeing right now and my gosh i'm so glad he walked it back when newt said yesterday that the the the the
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the freedom caucus 20 have a moral right to kevin mccarthy to vote for him i kind of lost it because
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for me you and newt are the best political minds in america and i said what do you mean moral authority
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and moral right to vote for kevin mccarthy the only moral right they have is to god the u.s
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constitution and their constituents they are representing their constituents and the math
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here is fascinating we discussed this on the show today okay out of the conference 80 percent
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want kevin and 20 percent don't or 90 and 10 but it doesn't matter that's irrelevant because if you
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look at republican voters steve 80 percent of republican voters don't want kevin mccarthy so
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the conference is not how we measure america steve right and and they're not representing really
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representing their people by the way the number is 202-225-3121 make sure that your voice is is
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heard listen here's the other thing the reforms would never have been done no these reforms are mad and
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it's inside based on people say steve don't talk about it's too boring but no our audience loves
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this stuff this is real this will they're huge this will actually this will take away the imperial power
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the only problem i have with the republicans on the floor now what particularly some of these
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introductory speeches and by the way rosendales is perfect you got to point the finger to the
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democrats because you have the democrats on tv saying well you're seeing our party as a party
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you can govern no no no no no no pelosi you had pelosi bainer ryan pelosi the imperial speakers
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that's what we're talking about and they're taking away the power from the imperial speaker
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and investing it back into the people's uh delegates that's essentially one part of what this fight's
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about the other part is that we don't trust mccarthy he's completely part of the cartel
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and we're never going to give up so david jolly's right there are two elements to the 20 right
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part of it is there are but but if but if we just want to be totally prosaic then then we understand
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it is not you don't need to be a you know a rocket scientist you don't have to be elon musk to
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understand kevin mccarthy is in the mold of bainer and ryan it's very simple he'd be another bainer or
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ryan now i agree with you know uh mark levin not in the last few days but he said previously said at
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christmas time you know mitch mcconnell is evil at least kevin mccarthy is an evil but what has he done
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in 14 years that's my question but to you i i you know i i you've said to me offline you don't think
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that mccarthy's got the votes in that case what happens because i've heard and it shocks me people
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say that scalise would be just as bad so what's the the the senior strategists scenario steve
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i have a simple one because seb this is about money and power right now yeah if you if you look at every
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article that's coming out but the fit in the headline in the hill this morning is about the debt ceiling
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the debt ceiling the spending that is why they took the gavel away from mccarthy in the first place
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that the the smart globalists in the senate in the democratic party knew what exactly was going
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to happen they know the fact that the american people are worked up and they got this kind of
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representation called command by negation they the debt ceiling is what freaks them out because that
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continues to let them keep the credit card that's how we've gone from 10 trillion in in debt in a few
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years to 30 trillion in debt so i think the solution to the coalition to bring it together in republican
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party and to lead the negotiation and don't wait when they say the debt ceiling is going to be well
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it's going to be summer or fall no that's when they're out of cash and they got a gun to your
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they got the shotgun to your head saying oh we're going to default on treasuries we got to increase the
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debt ceiling five trillion dollars immediately you're you're you're going to cause a global economic
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crisis start the debt get trump let's get his name nominated i think it'd be quite symbolic now that
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you've mentioned it to do it to do it let's vote on 6 january 2022 to make trump the speaker of the
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house it has a certain it has a certain symmetry to it does it not certain poetry there's a certain
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poetry to it i think we have to start using the war room has to start using hashtag patriotic and
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peaceful okay tomorrow hashtag patriotic and peaceful 100 days starting tomorrow january 6 so trump trump
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has it for 100 days as a speaker maybe they extend it but 100 days that's recommenced and what he what
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he does is he sets up they get organized he sets up the investigations and make sure they're going to
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be real investigations and not not trade gowdy and the benghazi you know crap he's just spouting over
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at fox not that crap you have he sets up real investigation but most importantly he he immediately
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gets into a discussion about the appropriations process exactly what we're going to do a balanced
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budget you know russ vote comes in with it used to be his own b director he already
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has the tenure and then trump goes okay in doing this we're also going to talk we're going to
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negotiate the debt ceiling right now right and then the federal reserves role we just do it all in 100
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days and may go longer than that trump is the person he's the uniquely skilled individual to do this
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he is the best is my one is my one caveat you know the man you worked for him as i have um he's not
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shy and retiring could you imagine a donald trump uh in practice demoting himself because he's gone
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from president to third in line for the president is that feasible knowing the man hold it hold it
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hold it we got the motion to vacate if he got the motion to vacate the chair no any one person he agrees
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to all the reform package he agrees to all their form package my fear is that they ask him to stay on and
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people say we can't run for president he would step aside when he stepped down and run for president
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what a better way but i know he wouldn't stay there for more than a couple of months he wouldn't stay
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there but but would he do it in the first place let me say this let me say something else and trump
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put this out the other day think about it for a second trump says you know this thing has been in an
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odd way he said this has actually been incredible because everybody's talking about it everybody's
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watching it and as as the guys stand up they say hey you at home think this is like this every day
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that the chamber's full there's nobody ever in the chamber it's like the british part but here's what
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can you imagine trump sitting up there as speaker and he calls everybody in no it'd be the greatest
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television show in the world you know what it'd be it'd be debates like in commons you'd have the
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democrats by the way i love when the democrats get up there and start banging on the table and and
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they're making their point of view this is what democracy is about and then the republicans
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counter it quite frankly the american people would sit there and go hey man a lot of the
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stuff the democrats say is playing crazy right but that's what we want let's have donald trump
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as speaker bang the gavel in and let's once a week have all congress come together and let's
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debate these bills let's do it like it would be the it would be the apprentice but with real stakes
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right real stakes it would be the apprentice with real stakes i mean high stakes and i'm saying have
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a full debate i would love the democrats have some incredibly smart very smart policy
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very articulate great speakers uh and great and the republicans have the same thing put the biggest
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but put the put the appropriations put the budget put the debt ceiling let's put the let's put the
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invasion of the southern border let's put the biggest issues out there today every week how do we
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how do we make this happen i sent my tweet tomorrow i'll go about the president coming down tomorrow how
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do we make it have it happen with the hobbits i think well first of the hobbits uh number one i think you
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can uh i think you can call or go and make make sure uh trump speaker speak it was trending trump
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speaker on twitter make sure you get on your social media or make sure you call that call to
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the general number for the trump for the you know the trump campaign say hey i think it'd be great as
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trump a speaker show you support if you support it if you think it's a crazy idea say it's a crazy idea
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but it has a symmetry to it not just that it has two elements trump is by far the best person you
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want in the room to basically negotiate away from this financial crisis the debt ceiling the spending
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all in a big package right number one number two if the american people like what they've seen for
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the last couple days of matt rosendale and all these folks sitting there going we're never together
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and and we like hearing from the other side and and we'd like contested debate and i'm always i'm
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always a person says more speech not less we want these debates you put it on by the way c-span
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would be number be a number one number would you rather watch would you rather watch these people
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going at it with what they believe what donald trump's in there hang on or watch the same crap
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you see every night on msc cnn and yes except for tucker fox news right you'd watch this non-stop
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this is perhaps the most exciting aspect of what we're talking about because it has the potential to
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shatter the the kevlar tungsten separation between america the american people and the
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elite because suddenly politics matters suddenly people who live everywhere watch and get engaged
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in politics and and for the last 60 years this idea that that's dc i have no impact on it i'm not
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interested in it you know why it has drama it has it has drama and it has personality and it has
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narrative yes it's not this bloodless thing it's not all the juice sucked out of it so you hear this
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thing they're talking in congress speak you don't know what they're talking about and you don't care
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but it's so it's so directly engaged in life seb i know you gotta bounce what how do people get to
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all your content particularly social media because you've got to be following seb now uh while this
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uh while this vote's going on i am so excited about this i am so i have no no idea if we have a chance
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but this is super exciting in the meantime i am everywhere except the fascistic youtube so uh
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the website is said gorka.com the sub stack is my full name sebastian gorka.substack.com we're on
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truth social twitter facebook instagram uh rumble you name it uh follow me look for seb gorka
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sebastian gorka and i will be there i'm pumped this is cool dr seb gorka thank you honored to have you
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on here sir thank you god bless happy new year steve happy new year brother dr seb gorka my deputy over
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there in the white house and uh editor at breitbart um has become huge content uh provider generator okay
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we're gonna take a short break i'm gonna come back talk more about all of this i'm gonna get
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boris epstein in to get uh his thoughts next in the world because we're taking down the ccp
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yeah so brett what is the difference i mean nancy pelosi you can find out what's in the bill once
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we pass it i mean she was like the honey badger of house speakers can can you can you be that if
00:29:23.240
you're kevin mccarthy now can you just be bold no no no i'm the only one who thinks that because
00:29:29.560
everybody on the couch is saying no a lot of power you you think that john bainer had it tough you think
00:29:35.880
that paul ryan had it tough with a a you know tea party or a recalcitrant uh you know wave of the
00:29:43.880
party that said we're not going to do this and they stand up and blocked different bills just wait
00:29:49.080
just wait when the debt ceiling battle comes down the pike just wait until uh other controversial
00:29:55.160
legislation comes down uh he will not have a lot of power and that's what i think he was trying to
00:30:00.520
protect but he has negotiated away yeah but you have bob good telling reporters today i will always
00:30:06.520
vote against kevin mccarthy always you just had matt gates vote for former president trump that's one of
00:30:13.240
the others gates voted for trump as speaker um and so listen there's one way that this could be solved
00:30:20.920
and that is the negotiation includes democrats there's some kind of thing that happens as far
00:30:26.040
as what they get i don't know what it is but 40 of them vote present and then the majority to win
00:30:32.680
becomes 198 and kevin mccarthy becomes speaker because the magic number shifts from 218 to 198 yeah it's
00:30:41.640
possible but that means that he's giving up a lot to democrats and that would cost him inside his car
00:30:48.040
i mean i can't believe proposing gimmicks right there gimmicks to get around the power of the
00:30:52.040
american people so that we can they've taken away the the power of the uh imperial speaker you know i
00:30:57.800
keep saying nancy pelosi ran it with an iron fist um but pelosi boehner um ryan pelosi again
00:31:06.680
and now uh and and now whoever's going to be that that that day's over this massive reform package
00:31:13.160
and there's two sets of people there are people here that were just looking for reform there are
00:31:17.720
others that are never mccarthy it's the trust issue and i think the never mccarthy is is more than
00:31:22.440
single digit things in the double digits and so right now there is breaking news i want to make
00:31:26.360
sure everybody's up to speed on it uh this is from um uh jake sherman let me see if i can get this
00:31:32.520
yes uh new sources tell us uh a deal between mccarthy and his opponents is close chip roy and
00:31:39.720
patrick mchenry have been negotiating it all the big players are now in tom emmers tom member is going
00:31:45.000
to be the whip first floor office ralph norman says he expects an offer in writing tonight remember
00:31:51.720
ralph norman from south carl was on the show i said hey if they want to make a proposal give me a you
00:31:56.360
know he's a real estate guy get show me a deal also jake sherman a punch bowl just put this up
00:32:01.320
mchenry the leadership's chief negotiator said he feels very favorable about where things are
00:32:06.760
heading and the pieces he said are coming together mchenry is a very careful speaker he's been in and
00:32:12.760
around leadership for a very long time i want to bring in uh boris uh epstein boris um they talk
00:32:19.640
about chaos but there's a method to this madness and the method to the madness are twofold number one
00:32:24.280
there are a number of of of these individuals and i would respectfully say i think the vast majority
00:32:32.840
of the republic not just the base but republican voters i would say at least 80 percent are in the
00:32:38.360
hey it can't be mccarthy right it's just a trust issue he'll negotiate everything away we got these
00:32:43.880
really horrific negotiations coming up and you've seen how he's given up everything here just to get
00:32:49.000
the job we don't want him then you've got another subset of that that are people like ralph norman
00:32:54.120
like chip roy the concern about the debt ceiling you've got others that want to take away the
00:32:57.720
imperial power and i know it sounds like inside baseball but these rules changes are massive and
00:33:02.920
and speakers have never given it off that's why brett bear was saying the guy would basically be
00:33:07.160
incredible not just on the one for the motion to vacate but for all the different changes in the
00:33:11.160
rules this the committee structure the heads of it uh etc uh give us your assessment boris of where
00:33:18.120
we stand now i do want to talk about the president trump situation but let's get out of the way
00:33:22.040
the housekeeping of where you think we stand as as mccarthy has just lost a historic or is in the
00:33:26.760
process of losing our historic 10th vote on the floor right now
00:33:36.920
okay i think we have trouble with boris's uh let's see if we can't fix boris's audio
00:33:42.840
i'm here okay you got you but you got to take it i know it's a long time since we had you on
00:33:47.000
skype but you got to take it off mute you realize how they work the technology now no it wasn't
00:33:52.920
it was a deep state that's preventing my phone connection to the war room possible i'm always
00:33:59.080
going to fight through that i'm always going to fight through and always going to be there for
00:34:02.760
for the posse and for war room so another historic day a lot of movement now appears to be some sort
00:34:09.640
of deal in the works you know we'll see what uh how that ends up obviously they're voting through it
00:34:14.840
now they're on the 10th vote that seems to have a a similar a similar result from the previous so
00:34:19.560
we'll see what the uh we'll see what the bottom line is here's the issue that fox news has called
00:34:24.760
this one about as right as they called the arizona election in 2020 this is an absolute and total
00:34:30.600
disaster for them uh in this notion of oh let's just make a deal with the democrats all you have to
00:34:37.560
know about fox news all you've got to know about country club republicans is right there yeah let's
00:34:43.960
just make a deal with with the democrats and we'll be okay it's gonna work out we'll just sell our
00:34:48.520
country down the river we'll have some more omnibus type uh packages our kids are going to be poor our
00:34:54.280
grandkids are not going to have a country but that's okay because uh i think everybody's going to be
00:34:58.520
happy absolute and total nonsense is that what that is is what that is it is absolutely unacceptable for
00:35:05.480
a republican controlled house for a republican majority to go and make some sort of deals with the other
00:35:11.320
side that is not where we are where we are standing strong and yes we've got to elect the speaker i said
00:35:17.080
it yesterday i'll say right now and i hope they do come to some sort of deal and figure it out and
00:35:21.560
and we all move on to the to the business of investigating prosecuting pushing back against
00:35:28.120
the weaponization fighting against the targeting of political opponents and yes calling back some of
00:35:33.560
the disastrous spending that's happened i absolutely absolutely require that and i think it's actually
00:35:39.880
vital for us as a country for that to happen but it cannot happen through some sort of coalition
00:35:45.080
or another frankenstein type deal where republicans sell our country down the river to the democrats
00:35:52.440
look president trump said something the other day uh that it took even me a while to catch on he says
00:35:57.480
hey and all this thing and people say it's all so awful there's actually something great coming
00:36:01.880
of it and people actually walk and watch in the process everybody's talking about it then matt
00:36:05.560
rosendale gave this talk today about really this has been the best civics lesson this people will
00:36:09.800
focus on this because nobody ever watches you have it up on c-span or you'll have it on a short clip
00:36:14.840
on msmc or fox for 30 seconds somebody sitting in an empty house this is more like parliament it's it's
00:36:20.920
it the place is packed think about if trump and this is why i'm adamant about trump as speaker
00:36:25.880
number one he's the only one that can bring everybody together on on the in the conference
00:36:30.360
right because quite frankly oh i think 55 of them have been elected since on his first presidential
00:36:35.960
election in in 16 they are really the republican party that trump made number one number two think
00:36:42.120
about if trump was once a week just got everybody there and we debated the biggest issues in the
00:36:47.160
nation that are going to come up as bills the debt ceiling the appropriations the budget the southern
00:36:51.720
border right take it ukraine the the the intensity it would be must watch tv people like this and this is
00:36:59.720
really on something fairly arcane about the direction of the country but in a highly technical
00:37:05.000
way think about if you had the juice and the drama and particularly get so many democrats that can sit
00:37:09.800
there and trust me they can argue their position big league right and so can the republicans but you
00:37:14.840
have it right there with trump as the speaker number two boris with all the massive issues and look
00:37:20.440
why do the murdochs why the why the murdochs have it from from fox and friends all the way to the uh to
00:37:26.280
hannity at night and laurian why are they they saying the same thing it's gotta be mccarthy
00:37:30.360
got it the murdochs understand they want the destiny increased right they're their world economic
00:37:36.760
forum right they're 100 in this they they don't want trump around they don't want maga around they
00:37:41.560
don't want any of that around they want your eyeballs to watch your show then they put shiny
00:37:45.480
toys out there they're not relevant this is why and they don't want trump you want trump
00:37:50.120
in the room to negotiate the big deals there's not going to be a bigger deal coming up
00:37:54.200
than the financial capital structure of the country based around the debt ceiling and that's
00:37:58.840
why everybody's talking about it and every you know today on mscnc we'll say hey they can't control
00:38:03.640
this how they're going to control these crazies during the debt ceiling negotiations part of what's
00:38:07.960
going on behind the scenes with ralph norman and chip boy there is going to have some element of the
00:38:13.400
debt ceiling and some commitment some commitment to do spending cuts and that's not even what we're
00:38:18.600
asking for our position or war room not one penny increase the debt ceiling in anything that has to
00:38:23.720
be on any debt ceiling uh restructuring possible has to tie to the ownership of the federal reserve
00:38:29.480
boris is there a better individual in our nation to bring the conference together to negotiate the
00:38:35.160
toughest deals we have as speaker and also to bring people together in what would be a robust debate
00:38:40.520
about the cores of the the biggest issues facing the american republic today than donald john trump
00:38:48.600
sir well see let me say this and it's an honor to say to you honor to say to the posse and i say
00:38:54.040
this as an american citizen not in any of the roles i have as an american citizen there's not a
00:38:58.600
leadership position in this country that i think there's anybody better for than president donald j trump
00:39:05.000
president trump absolutely embodies the leadership the ability to negotiate to stand strong and all
00:39:10.360
you've got to do is look to look at his career as a businessman and then look at his four years look at
00:39:15.560
the new look at the usmca look at the new napa look at his negotiating with with the chinese with
00:39:21.880
the chinese look at the look at the strong tariffs he put in place look at his negotiating with our
00:39:27.640
allies like the french on tariffs uh same with south korea look at a strong stance against iran
00:39:34.760
president trump is so hold on whoa whoa whoa don't bury don't don't hold it don't don't bury the lead
00:39:39.720
what about what about the abraham accords that's not an easy group to negotiate with all of them
00:39:44.760
right what about the abraham accords you let me hey that's you just named 10 big deals that he
00:39:50.840
negotiated when he's got the fbi and the cia and the military trying to do a coup as we now know
00:39:56.600
seriously he's negotiated historic trade deals put china on notice the first deal that she had was
00:40:02.920
forced to sign he's got nafta right he he went and did the abraham accords he got nato to pay the two
00:40:09.240
percent he's got a punch list a mile long you don't think he can't get in here and clean this mess up
00:40:13.400
and by the way it doesn't be permanent a hundred days if it works to another hundred and then he
00:40:17.400
goes out he cleans this mess up and then goes out and gets back on the on the campaign trail what
00:40:22.120
punch a hole in my logic brother well i'm not here to punch holes in strong logic okay i can't speak
00:40:29.400
for the president on this specific issue right but i what i will say is looking to president trump
00:40:35.640
for leadership looking to president trump for guidance looking at president trump for strength is
00:40:41.080
exactly what this country should be doing and that is why we need him we need him to lead our
00:40:46.280
country he's i mean if you look at joe i mean look at the pathetic hopeless biden today again referring
00:40:51.720
to kamala harris as president harris talk about 20 000 20 000 sets of fentanyl which would kill pretty
00:40:59.080
much the whole country and he's he's all killed about a thousand people we have an embarrassment in the
00:41:03.720
white house we have an embarrassment we have embarrassment on in the senate on both sides
00:41:08.600
and now we've got this debacle going on in the house so yes it is absolutely logical to be looking
00:41:13.080
to president trump for strong tough leadership and to steer our country back to where it was under his
00:41:20.360
guidance when he was president and i will tell you this for one thousand percent sure it is absolutely
00:41:27.080
vital to the survival of the republic to survival of the united states for president trump to walk back
00:41:32.920
into the oval office no later than jan 20 20 25 no matter what happens between now and then but if
00:41:40.600
you haven't cleaned up you know if you haven't think of think of uh of uh the enormous mess we're
00:41:46.040
going to have if we don't get it straight right now and here's the thing that the the the never
00:41:50.520
mccarthy first off in the numbers 202-225-3121 take general uh bacon up on his uh on his challenge he
00:41:59.160
said it would be overwhelmed in the districts with people that wanted mccarthy and wanted people to
00:42:03.000
roll over for mccarthy let let your voice here if you support that it's a free country calling and
00:42:07.720
let your voice heard for kevin mccarthy if not call and give the alternative what you think ought to
00:42:12.440
happen boris can you hang on i know i know you're you're you're rushed for time but i got a couple more
00:42:16.840
questions in this regard because it's such a historic day uh it looks like um uh mccarthy uh has lost in
00:42:23.080
the 10th round and i think you're going to keep going i don't think they're going to let them have an
00:42:27.160
a german i think they're going to keep punching out although there's all types of types of leaks
00:42:30.120
now about potential deals being done um we're going to take a short commercial break boris is
00:42:34.920
going to hang with us we're going to be back uh maybe go a little bit live to the floor also just
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boris i i want to go how do you think we know they're cutting deals is uh mccarthy has has been
00:45:10.840
forced to accept this package okay he's about to force to accept this package to break the imperial
00:45:15.240
speakership uh has in your mind has he given too much away now and lost too much respect now that
00:45:22.520
he's about to lose his 10th uh vote on global television to be effective a speaker of the house at all
00:45:31.640
has he given away too much too i that's that's a decision he's got to make there's in a lot of ways
00:45:37.720
there's no such thing as too much because in the end the house is a deliberative body and depending on
00:45:43.720
what this deal looks like what it is in the end if it forces more deliberation and and and thereby
00:45:51.560
guarantees a strong stance stance on that feeling guarantees fights against the omnibus guarantees
00:45:57.000
a fight for the border guarantees a fight against weaponization of law enforcement that's a good
00:46:01.640
thing and nobody can argue against it so no i again i haven't seen the details of the deal but depending
00:46:07.960
on what or what those are what they look or what they look like i i think it's it's likely going to
00:46:14.120
be heralded as a as a win for you know the mega patriots out there what about the group there is a
00:46:22.200
larger group in the 20 that just say hey it's been a breach of trust we reached out to this guy months
00:46:27.160
ago he didn't do anything he hasn't done anything for years you've heard some of these dramatic speeches
00:46:31.560
on the floor of the house that the the way he's run even the conference has been uh has been as
00:46:36.760
a minority leader has been very dictatorial hasn't had any of these reforms and they don't trust him
00:46:41.720
in fact giving stuff away what about those people and david jolly said they've taken essentially a blood
00:46:46.040
oath if he can't if he can get part part of this 20 with some sort of reform package but he can't get
00:46:52.440
the rest how long does this go on they're prepared to stay here as gate said until the cherry boss
00:46:58.920
blossoms bloom to go past 133 than nathaniel banks did in 18 what 55 or 56 uh what is your assessment
00:47:06.600
of how this rolls forward well yeah i think tonight is another big inflection point yeah last night
00:47:14.520
was and now on to tonight it depends on how many sign on to the deal if if there's 10 or more who sign
00:47:21.960
on to this deal i think that's a major indication uh but again the numbers are so tight steve right
00:47:28.680
so if it's if you still have five seven eight strong holdouts then what's the question is going
00:47:36.680
to be what is that next step and then the next step has got to be to continue working it out
00:47:41.720
among republicans and not go and you know do some sort of fancy deal that uh that involves democrats and
00:47:47.880
gives an inch away to the democrats now the democrats say hey we're just gonna we want to move forward
00:47:53.240
we've got to get something done and somehow uh you know we'll facilitate i don't see that happening
00:47:58.520
but if we have to give an inch to them i think that is an absolute non-starter um for that because
00:48:07.240
the reality is what they're most petrified about is the ability to continue to print money and spend
00:48:11.960
money and grow the administrative state and fund all of their uh bizarre programs right um
00:48:18.280
of course mccarthy in the process has revealed that when it comes to crunch time he'll blink
00:48:24.040
i mean that's that's reality of his negotiating style leave aside what you think of him and his
00:48:27.320
policies but just the negotiating style we can't blink on the debt ceiling we can't blink in this
00:48:32.600
next appropriation process we can't blink on the ability to really do the hard cuts and by the way
00:48:37.400
they're gonna go nuts when you start cutting they they go nuts when you're not increasing by an
00:48:41.800
increasing rate on the growth how can you have anybody but trump lead that negotiation because see
00:48:47.240
when he gets into these negotiations he's inflexible that's how he got the new nafta
00:48:51.720
that's how he got the abraham accords that's how he got nato to start paying the two percent
00:48:55.560
that's how he got the chinese to the table when they walked away right how you need a master
00:49:01.000
negotiator like trump how do you you can't compare him in in in uh in mccarthy you just can't i mean it's
00:49:08.360
just so logical about he has to do this because this is where you need the leadership and you need
00:49:13.480
the leadership now and by the way when you do this you do this negotiation you're going to
00:49:17.720
negotiate against all of wall street all the global corporations here in the united states the world
00:49:22.040
economic forum the chinese communist party all of those guys going to be aligned on the other side
00:49:26.200
and say yes we want you to increase the deficit we just want the united states to spend and spend and
00:49:30.120
spend and spend how do you not have a trump leave that negotiation sir well here's what i will say just
00:49:37.800
the last uh in the last few minutes here i think what you had uh president trump on true social uh
00:49:43.160
the point of the fact that he is listening to the posse he is hearing the outreach out there he's been
00:49:48.200
training uh on social media president trump putting out a pretty hilarious uh picture uh a meme of you
00:49:55.000
of what may happen if uh if joe biden would have to give a a uh some sort of address to the to the
00:50:01.560
joint session with president trump as speaker so i would urge everybody to take a look at president
00:50:07.240
trump's truth account but and and here's the bigger picture here's what what this week has proven and
00:50:13.720
to your point steve that this country is yearning is desire and is is absolutely desperate for real
00:50:20.200
leadership and there's no leadership that this country has had in any recent memory on any modern
00:50:25.560
history that is on the level of president trump's leadership that is that is where we are as a country
00:50:30.760
that is where we are as a nation that's where we are as a movement and president trump is the only
00:50:35.320
true leader of the united states of america uh boris how do people get to your morning newsletter
00:50:42.280
and to your uh into your social media steve we're having a lot of fun everybody better be following
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00:50:58.280
strong god bless all offense and i'll talk to you tomorrow boris thank you very much okay um
00:51:05.640
we're going to take a break by the way they're still down i think they still haven't completed
00:51:09.160
the uh the 10th round don't my glasses on so i can't see i can't even see my monitor just barely
00:51:15.080
uh we we do know that mccarthy didn't win although the news is not what's happening on the floor that
00:51:20.920
was to be expected the news is what's happening behind the scenes and they're trying to just people
00:51:24.600
should understand they are trying to cut deals and trying to reach some rapprochement uh with at least
00:51:30.600
the people that are looking for the the nose that are looking for reform package and a more detailed
00:51:35.560
reform package and a reform package they can count on okay so that's taking place and you got the
00:51:40.040
chip royce and people like that working on it with patrick mahenry we'll probably have an update in the
00:51:45.320
six o'clock hour uh also you got the hardcores not going to happen so we'll find out what the kind of
00:51:51.320
the blood oath uh contingent of the uh of what we call the 20. no they're not insurrectionists and
00:51:57.720
they're not terrorists fox news okay short commercial break we're gonna be back on another
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