Bannon's War Room - January 06, 2023


Episode 2423： The Restoring Of Regular Order To The House


Episode Stats

Length

54 minutes

Words per Minute

178.33847

Word Count

9,806

Sentence Count

644

Misogynist Sentences

4

Hate Speech Sentences

4


Summary

On today's show, Stephen K. Bannon and I discuss: 1) How to deal with the deep state 2) What's going on with the tea party movement 3) Who's going to vote for Kevin McCarthy? 4) Why the tea partiers will never vote for him 5) Is he a good guy? 6) Does he have a chance to win re-election? 7) Will he be able to get re-elected in 2020?


Transcript

00:00:01.000 This is the primal scream of a dying regime.
00:00:05.920 Pray for our enemies, because we're going to medieval on these people.
00:00:11.120 You're just not going to free shot all these networks lying about the people.
00:00:15.460 The people have had a belly full of it.
00:00:17.400 I know you don't like hearing that.
00:00:18.780 I know you've tried to do everything in the world to stop that,
00:00:20.540 but you're not going to stop it. It's going to happen.
00:00:22.740 And where do people like that go to share the big line?
00:00:26.160 Mega Media.
00:00:27.060 I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.
00:00:32.940 Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?
00:00:36.700 If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.
00:00:42.980 War Room. Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.
00:00:50.200 I think this is a natural conclusion of Trumpism, right?
00:00:53.680 You have Trump has made these people want to be celebrities and think they can be celebrities and think, you know, that their main goal is to grow their brand.
00:01:03.520 And so you have these mini Trumps.
00:01:05.780 You have Matt Gaetz and Marjorie Taylor.
00:01:08.320 Well, Marjorie Taylor.
00:01:09.340 No, but you have Lauren Boeberg and all these people who just want to get famous and who think that the small dollar donations and getting famous is a much bigger deal than working together and solving problems.
00:01:21.240 And so they have no incentive to vote for Kevin ever.
00:01:25.700 And I think because Kevin tacked so MAGA so early on, remember, in January after the insurrection, he went down there.
00:01:33.040 He's shown himself to be MAGA, right?
00:01:36.360 So he is not, you know, Democrats would never make a deal with him, I think, at this point.
00:01:40.000 And yet he is, you know, not MAGA enough for MAGA because you could never be MAGA enough for MAGA.
00:01:46.960 We have had more discussion and debate over the last three days than I have participated in on this floor for the last two years.
00:01:58.560 And it's healthy.
00:02:05.140 It absolutely promotes the collegiality that everyone is striving to obtain.
00:02:11.240 We're having discussions not just within our own party, but amongst each other.
00:02:16.360 As we walk around and start planning for the legislation that we will need to address over the next two years in the 118th Congress,
00:02:26.860 that sooner or later, yes, sooner or later, we will begin to function as.
00:02:37.480 Those are the good days.
00:02:39.760 And guess what?
00:02:41.880 Our constituents think, as they watch us on C-SPAN today, that this is how everyday functions.
00:02:50.780 They think that this is how every bill gets addressed in this body.
00:02:57.440 And they will be shocked to learn, the ones that you have not disclosed the little nasty secret to,
00:03:05.120 that unfortunately, that's not how it works around this place.
00:03:09.760 That under the current rules and under the current leadership construction,
00:03:17.760 that on fly-in days, typically Monday at the beginning of the week,
00:03:23.560 the leadership on both sides of the aisle negotiate a number of bills,
00:03:31.340 15 to 20 pieces of legislation that one Democrat and one Republican stand on this floor.
00:03:40.860 They discuss momentarily, and then they say the magic words,
00:03:48.360 without objection, we will pass this by unanimous consent.
00:03:54.520 And there are two people standing on the floor passing pieces of legislation
00:04:04.040 that oftentimes are the naming of buildings that don't really bother anybody or affect one's life,
00:04:11.940 but in many circumstances spend millions and tens of millions of dollars.
00:04:19.340 Yesterday, a magnificent speech by Matt Rosendale.
00:04:23.740 Three things are going on here.
00:04:25.060 And by the way, it is Friday, the 6th of January, in the year of our Lord, 2023.
00:04:28.860 You're in the war room, and we're actually packed today.
00:04:31.740 There's all types of moving pieces to this drama.
00:04:36.020 And we're the pregame, and the curtain's going to come up at noon
00:04:39.100 as we grind through another day.
00:04:42.480 And of course, obviously, this is a historic day, so we'll get into all of that.
00:04:45.340 Three things are going on.
00:04:46.500 Number one, this is standing up and bracing up the corporatist lobbyist wing.
00:04:53.080 The people call it swamp.
00:04:54.000 I don't like to say that because it's too cutesy.
00:04:56.200 But that corporatist apparatus that controls the process,
00:05:00.700 the reason we're in $30 trillion of debt,
00:05:02.920 what, $9.5 trillion over at the Federal Reserve on their balance sheet,
00:05:05.980 the reason the spending's out of control, what, $100 trillion of unfunded liabilities.
00:05:10.080 So number one, that has been fully exposed, and there's a fight on that that's never Kevin, right?
00:05:19.260 Number two is that you're seeing at least even what McCarthy's putting on the table
00:05:23.460 and what we're hearing about, and there's some things getting down on paper.
00:05:27.340 And this is for all my constitutional conservative colleagues and buddies that have just said,
00:05:32.400 oh, we should have just given it to Kevin earlier on this as a structure.
00:05:34.520 There are massive changes, and I'm not saying people are going to take this deal,
00:05:38.560 but there are massive changes and give-ups that actually start to bring the people's voice
00:05:44.280 in some regular order into this madness, right?
00:05:48.140 And number three is a civics lesson right there
00:05:50.320 because everybody thinks every day this works on Capitol Hill like that.
00:05:53.720 It's far from that.
00:05:55.040 And Matt Rosendale had this fantastic, epic speech yesterday that laid it all out.
00:06:01.020 Matt, Congressman Rosendale, thank you very much for joining us.
00:06:04.180 I want to go back to that speech for a minute because you saw and we wanted to juxtapose
00:06:09.220 the way this is being presented on MSC and quite frankly on Fox, a lot of conservative media
00:06:14.640 and CNN, New York Times, that this is chaos, this is super MAGA, that you're not coming together
00:06:20.400 to solve problems.
00:06:22.780 What is happening here is the beginning of the solution for the problems.
00:06:28.920 Actually, you're representing in Montana, what, two, in eastern Montana,
00:06:33.940 the people actually are now having an actual voice in how the system runs.
00:06:39.540 Congressman Rosendale, your thoughts and analysis.
00:06:42.900 You are spot on, Steve.
00:06:45.300 And for months now, that is what I've been talking about.
00:06:48.420 We absolutely must restore regular order to the House of Representatives.
00:06:53.180 The first time that I came on War Room, I don't know, two months ago, said we have got to take
00:06:58.140 the rules, which govern the procedures on the House floor and restore them.
00:07:05.620 We're not talking about radical changes from the norm to restore them so that each member
00:07:10.420 of Congress has an equal voice out there.
00:07:13.440 And I've been very, very consistent about that.
00:07:15.700 Right now, the problem is that the speaker and the nine people that the speaker places on the
00:07:21.380 rules committee control all legislation that comes out of the committee.
00:07:27.060 Once a committee passes a bill, it goes to this super legislative body,
00:07:33.020 and they make the determination about which amendments are going to be acceptable to be placed
00:07:39.440 or offered on that bill.
00:07:41.320 And then it goes out to the floor.
00:07:43.260 And I've been arguing all along that, number one, we need to make sure that we have single
00:07:48.160 issue legislation so that we are no longer faced with 4,000 page documents that are $1.7 trillion
00:07:56.560 and that have 7,000 earmarks in there, special projects for members across the country.
00:08:05.600 We just cannot have that.
00:08:07.260 The next thing is, once they are passed out of committee, they need to be able to go to
00:08:12.580 the floor and members should be allowed to offer amendments to that legislation as long
00:08:19.220 as whatever they are offering as an amendment is germane to that subject.
00:08:24.020 And so what you're going to hear over the next week, because this is going to get tougher
00:08:27.720 next week, Steve, we're going to need everyone that right now is cheering for us and saying
00:08:32.820 we want change.
00:08:33.820 We're going to need them to stay with us because the pressure that is within that body and the
00:08:40.120 pressure that is outside of that body on K Street, as you well know, and the lobbyists
00:08:45.860 across this country are going to put immense pressure on those that are trying to force
00:08:50.860 this change because they are so deeply invested into the system as it exists and the people
00:08:58.040 that are running it.
00:08:58.860 And so we're going to need outside support to make sure that we can move these changes.
00:09:04.500 They're going to say McCarthy has agreed to all of this.
00:09:08.980 He's agreed to all of these changes.
00:09:11.120 But if you really get down in the weeds, and that's where legislation takes place, way down
00:09:16.840 in the weeds, you will find that he's agreed to superficial changes that still will maintain
00:09:23.260 the control of everything that happens in his hands.
00:09:26.960 And quite frankly, he has a broken trust across the conference.
00:09:32.420 And there are so many people that have been intimidated by the power that he still wields
00:09:37.560 that they have not been willing to stand up and come with us yet.
00:09:41.640 The number is 202-225-3121.
00:09:44.960 That's the main switchboard for the House of Representatives.
00:09:46.920 We need everybody.
00:09:47.720 And by the way, if you support Kevin McCarthy and you agree with the Fox News guys and
00:09:51.580 this, that, hey, this is, we're late.
00:09:53.620 We can't get a, we can't get an investigation started.
00:09:56.320 We got to start, which is all nonsense.
00:09:57.880 Or they're going to work with the Democrats.
00:09:59.620 More nonsense.
00:10:00.040 That's all crap.
00:10:00.760 Okay.
00:10:01.340 But if you support that, it's a free country.
00:10:03.460 We love the posse.
00:10:04.600 202-225-3121.
00:10:06.220 However, if you support the dissenters or the dissidents or, you know, they're called
00:10:14.100 rebels on CNN and they're called insurgents on Fox, right?
00:10:18.240 If you support those, then let people know this.
00:10:21.040 Today's the day for emails, phone calls, and also find the local offices of your representative.
00:10:25.460 And if you want to show support for Ogles and Rosendale and Good, when you call the switchboard,
00:10:31.300 not just go to your own congressman, go to them.
00:10:33.120 They need to hear that support today.
00:10:34.480 It's going to get tough.
00:10:35.120 This is why I'm so proud of this audience and this platform that we've built.
00:10:38.640 You know, everybody else is speaking at 60,000 feet.
00:10:40.680 We're in the weeds.
00:10:41.560 And here's why in the weeds, all this stuff about draining the swamp.
00:10:44.860 If you want to drain the swamp, you got to go to the heart of the beast.
00:10:48.460 And this is the heart of it.
00:10:49.680 This is where, this is where the power players deal.
00:10:53.400 And what's so stunning is that McCarthy, at least on one level, is prepared to essentially,
00:10:58.960 it looks like at least on the surface, give you guys a massive win to open up this process.
00:11:05.340 That in and of itself is pretty stunning.
00:11:07.580 I mean, Watson, this is why I tell everybody, he says, oh, he should have just done McCarthy
00:11:10.540 at the beginning.
00:11:11.160 I said, look what these guys have done.
00:11:12.660 They have moved this thing so much to be even a schematic of an open process.
00:11:18.720 Is that essentially how you see it, Congressman, at least right now, understanding you don't
00:11:22.920 trust the deal at all?
00:11:23.860 There's no trust.
00:11:24.520 And you think, hey, they're going to bait and switch us, sir.
00:11:27.260 Hey, would you let Lucy hold the football for you, Steve?
00:11:31.700 Because I don't want Lucy holding the football for me.
00:11:36.480 There's just something deep inside of me that says that she's going to pull it this time,
00:11:40.780 too.
00:11:41.980 OK, it's been demonstrated.
00:11:43.500 Look, Kevin went to the Democrats when he was in the, he's been a leadership for 12 years
00:11:48.920 around this place.
00:11:49.660 He is a creature of this community.
00:11:52.900 I won't use the S word either, but he is a creature of this community.
00:11:57.980 And in 2015, in 2017, in 2018, in 2019, when he played leadership roles, whether it was as
00:12:05.180 the whip or as the majority leader, he constructed spending bills, spending measures.
00:12:10.740 And each time, Steve, he had to go to the Democrats to get his votes in order to pass it,
00:12:16.760 because he didn't have just 20, 30 fiscally conservative, true to their word, Republicans
00:12:23.520 that held out.
00:12:24.400 He had anywhere between 100 and 120 Republicans hold out on each one of those spending provisions.
00:12:30.680 And guess what?
00:12:31.860 September is going to get here a lot faster than anybody realizes.
00:12:35.320 And at that point, that's where the omnibus is going to run out of money and they're going
00:12:39.900 to have to pass a budget.
00:12:41.680 And mark my words, if Kevin McCarthy is the speaker of the House of Representatives, there
00:12:47.500 will be more Democrats on the budget than there are Republicans in a Republican majority
00:12:55.040 House of Representatives.
00:12:56.200 There will be more Democrats on that spending bill, on that budget than there are Republicans
00:13:02.620 in order to pass it.
00:13:04.120 And if he's going to have to go and pass legislation like that, then he might just as well get started
00:13:09.880 earning the Democrat votes right now because my constituents do not want me to have the
00:13:16.160 same people in leadership that have managed the demise of our country over the last 10
00:13:21.660 years moving forward to stay in leadership.
00:13:25.440 We have an extremely rare opportunity right now to change not only the conduct of the House,
00:13:31.840 the rules, how things work around here, but to have someone in the position that's going
00:13:39.280 to be navigating those rules that we actually have trust in.
00:13:44.420 Congressman, can you stay for a few minutes?
00:13:46.520 We're going to take a short commercial break.
00:13:47.900 We have a few more questions.
00:13:49.120 We're absolutely packed today.
00:13:50.380 We've got Andy Owens coming up.
00:13:51.700 We've got Russ Vogt.
00:13:52.960 He's going to lay all this out.
00:13:54.100 We have Bob Good.
00:13:55.760 We're going to get Tiffany Justice is going to join us.
00:13:58.580 Steve Cortez is going to be packed.
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00:14:10.460 the Eli Cranes and the Matt Rosendales and the Bob Goods and the Matt Gates, it's been
00:14:15.240 a knife fight.
00:14:16.240 It is as nasty.
00:14:18.060 The pressure is building.
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00:15:56.200 Here's your host, Stephen K.
00:15:58.140 Back.
00:16:00.280 Okay, welcome back.
00:16:01.520 We're with Congressman Matt Rosendale, and we're going to get this link up.
00:16:06.140 You've got to watch his speech yesterday because it, and I think hopefully, because the ratings
00:16:10.740 have been huge here, everybody's talking about it.
00:16:12.600 They're talking about it in Europe.
00:16:13.940 As you know, we have Ben Harnwell and our international group.
00:16:16.980 We talk every day early in the morning to folks in the city of London and all over.
00:16:21.220 Everybody's talking about this.
00:16:22.220 They're watching.
00:16:22.640 They're mesmerized by it.
00:16:23.860 Now, they think it's like House of Commons.
00:16:25.660 It's every day.
00:16:26.240 But Matt Rosendale said, no, we need to do this.
00:16:28.360 We need to debate the biggest issues in front of the country like this.
00:16:33.080 Congressman Rosendale, this package, and Russ Vogt's going to come on.
00:16:35.960 This package has got, it looks like a huge give up on spending and the process of spending.
00:16:40.460 It's got this incredible thing he's given up to vacate the chair motion to vacate the chair.
00:16:45.200 There's tons of rules and processes, and people have to understand this is how you begin to
00:16:50.500 take it back from the lobbyists.
00:16:51.820 Given all that, you've said you wouldn't accept it because there's a trust issue with McCarthy
00:16:58.340 because he's a creature of the system.
00:16:59.800 You just don't trust him or the people around him.
00:17:02.240 Would you take this package, maybe tuned up, if there was another person that would come
00:17:08.120 up as speaker, sir?
00:17:09.820 Not at this point.
00:17:10.920 They still have not made the strides forward, Steve, that we need to in order to restore
00:17:17.320 an equal voice for representation of each of the districts across our country.
00:17:23.620 That's why, honestly, we started receiving calls yesterday from Democrats across the country
00:17:29.420 thanking me for exposing how the place was actually working or not working, depending upon
00:17:35.240 how you want to look at it, because their representatives don't have equal voice either.
00:17:39.520 And so I do believe, and I walked over and sat over with my colleagues on the other side
00:17:45.640 of the aisle yesterday.
00:17:46.940 Again, this is what we are supposed to do, and started having some conversations and said,
00:17:52.400 I think that you should have an equal voice in this debate as well, because guess what?
00:17:57.180 I believe in my ideas.
00:17:58.960 My ideas will win.
00:18:00.500 They are better for our country.
00:18:02.240 And so I am more than glad to make sure that everyone has the same size megaphone that we can
00:18:07.860 go out to that floor and discuss and debate these issues.
00:18:10.780 And while you will hear over the next week, I'm telling you that, oh, my gosh, we have
00:18:15.920 given away the store.
00:18:18.200 First of all, they are superficial agreements of superficial amendments that they have thrown
00:18:24.820 out there to try and cover each issue, but not anything of substance.
00:18:30.460 And then again, how can you believe in any agreement that has been negotiated by someone
00:18:36.780 that you have no trust in?
00:18:38.440 I walk down to the floor each week, Steve, and on Mondays, they would just say, we suspend
00:18:44.440 the rules.
00:18:45.280 And we're going to bring all this legislation forward.
00:18:47.980 And we're going to pass it when no one is here.
00:18:50.480 I mean, you can suspend the rules.
00:18:53.000 And then the House of Representatives is a majority majority body.
00:18:58.180 And if someone isn't there to object to it, then business will go on as usual if we don't
00:19:04.140 change the rules and the leadership that is enforcing that.
00:19:09.340 This is why MSNBC, this is why Congress's approval is at nine percent.
00:19:12.600 It's in single digits.
00:19:13.360 And the reason is this that this is why the Republicans should be every day out there saying,
00:19:17.620 hey, this is why it's so dysfunctional, you know, because they keep saying we're going
00:19:21.280 to juxtapose how the Democrats run everything is so perfectly a common order.
00:19:25.240 And now this is not chaos.
00:19:27.200 Anybody saying this is wrong.
00:19:28.900 This is this is getting so you want solutions to the problems.
00:19:31.860 You're seeing how you get solutions fighting.
00:19:34.240 These 20 people are patriots.
00:19:35.680 They're going to be they're going to be considered in history like the patriots in 1773 and 1774
00:19:41.280 that led to 1776.
00:19:44.140 Do the people in eastern Montana, do the folks in your district have your back on this?
00:19:49.040 Are they are they are they read in to how how huge this fight is and, quite frankly,
00:19:55.100 how nasty this fight is going to get?
00:19:57.700 Overwhelming, overwhelming support from the people across the state, not just in the eastern
00:20:02.040 Montana, throughout the state of Montana and across the nation.
00:20:07.500 We have had an outpouring of support.
00:20:09.220 It's overwhelming.
00:20:10.820 The prayers and the letters and calls of support and encouragement that have come in.
00:20:17.460 But we're just beginning.
00:20:19.120 And we are absolutely the people that that stay on this fight are going to need that
00:20:25.340 support as we go into the next week.
00:20:28.760 Congressman Rosendale, how do people get to you?
00:20:30.700 Social media?
00:20:31.400 How do they get to your site?
00:20:32.420 Find out more about you, sir.
00:20:34.560 At Rep Rosendale.
00:20:36.800 At Rep Rosendale.
00:20:38.200 I finally I finally keep it right in my head, Steve, so that every time you ask me that I
00:20:42.640 can deliver the line.
00:20:43.800 Sir, thank you very much.
00:20:47.020 Honored to have you on here.
00:20:48.220 True patriot and hero.
00:20:49.920 God bless you, sir.
00:20:50.880 You're going to need it.
00:20:52.880 Russ Vogt, thank you for joining us.
00:20:55.580 You're one of the architects of this.
00:20:57.520 Tell me, do you do about this deal that's going around is getting it on paper.
00:21:02.240 There's all kind of thing.
00:21:03.000 Oh, they're going to flip 10 votes.
00:21:05.020 Just give me your assessment.
00:21:06.500 You've said, hey, we've got to deal with the guy next after McCarthy because right
00:21:11.440 now there's a massive problem, and that problem is the cartel, right?
00:21:15.960 And right now you're trying to take out the cartel head.
00:21:18.760 So give us your assessment as we start because noon the curtain is going to go up, and I'm
00:21:23.180 just telling everybody in this audience, and behind the scenes is as nasty as it can get.
00:21:27.680 If you think it's been nasty before, you ain't seen nothing yet because now the pressure
00:21:31.620 cooker is really going to start.
00:21:33.440 Russ Vogt.
00:21:33.940 Yeah, no, this is a really critical moment that we're in, and the deal that is being
00:21:41.540 negotiation, I would say, has a great potential.
00:21:45.080 Devil is in the details, but what you're seeing, you just heard it from that patriot, Matt
00:21:50.240 Rosendale, is the fact that when you have a speaker that is the DNA of the cartel, bought
00:21:55.800 and paid for by the cartel, trust factor, these members have been lied to for years on years,
00:22:01.740 they don't trust anything.
00:22:03.900 And so even though you may have a, I believe, potentially transformational deal, I want to
00:22:09.160 make sure the details, but what I'm hearing is very, very good, and I want to explain what
00:22:13.840 I'm hearing and what I'm seeing and what I've been helping them work on, that is going to
00:22:20.380 have a hard time passing.
00:22:21.340 And it may not pass.
00:22:22.580 And so I think what happens is if they get these concessions, I believe that this is
00:22:26.400 the type of thing that if the patriots say, look, we're not going to do it, there's got
00:22:32.640 to be a change, and this is going to be the type of foundation that anyone who leaves the
00:22:38.360 House is going to have to agree to.
00:22:40.020 That's the direction that I think that we are in.
00:22:41.920 How can the people that are here that are part of the app arrest, part of the cartel,
00:22:48.580 part of the swamp, how can they agree to this?
00:22:50.760 The outline of what I've seen is so shocking in what they do.
00:22:54.400 I kind of went with Rosendale.
00:22:56.040 There's got to be kinks in this thing, because they couldn't possibly agree to this, because
00:23:01.340 you're really opening up to much more of non-lobbyist control, non-corporate control,
00:23:07.660 non-money control.
00:23:08.580 How could the people that make their living off of this, which is, let's be honest, at
00:23:12.640 least half of the conference, how could they agree to McCarthy doing everything?
00:23:17.020 This is almost making the speaker a ceremonial role, right, with a shotgun to his head every
00:23:23.540 second of every day.
00:23:24.760 Why would anybody else back this up?
00:23:26.860 And they're saying, hey, you can't give this away.
00:23:28.360 Why would they do that?
00:23:30.180 Well, and I think that's the people, there's two camps, really, within those 20 patriots,
00:23:35.220 right?
00:23:35.460 And the folks who are working on the deal are the ones who are saying, you know what,
00:23:41.320 we are in a moment in time where this is the only speaker that has a chance to, that's
00:23:48.620 not coming from the right, like a Jim Jordan or someone like that, or Byron Donald.
00:23:53.740 This is, if you've got someone that, like a Steve Scalise, he's not going to agree to
00:23:58.080 this.
00:23:58.440 You've got someone who's, Elise Stefanik's not going to agree to this.
00:24:01.720 So they're looking at this from the standpoint of, we have a moment in time that where they
00:24:07.720 are, that for the first time, we're talking about an independent rules committee.
00:24:11.100 This has been my biggest thing.
00:24:12.720 How do you defeat the cartel?
00:24:13.940 You have an independent rules committee with enough real house conservatives on there to
00:24:19.360 tell the speaker, no, we're not doing that.
00:24:21.420 We are not doing that.
00:24:23.440 And that's what we're now talking about.
00:24:25.920 That's how you defeat the cartel.
00:24:27.900 That's not window dressing.
00:24:29.620 That is, that is actually real de jure power that would rest with the House Freedom Caucus
00:24:35.480 on every major bill, every major bill and amendment.
00:24:39.480 And I get the notion of, well, they can suspend the rules.
00:24:41.780 They can't suspend the rules without changing the rules.
00:24:45.020 They need to do two thirds to be able to, they need two thirds vote to do that.
00:24:49.360 And it means that like conservatives are going to have to show up and be present.
00:24:52.900 Yes.
00:24:53.440 But this is major power.
00:24:56.380 Motion to vacate, single member.
00:24:58.580 That's the enforceability of it is on every one of these terms, one member can go.
00:25:03.780 And now we have parliamentary style government, which this 20 members, Matt Rosendale made sure
00:25:08.800 we have parliamentary style government with the 20 to be able to enforce that with a motion
00:25:14.200 to vacate.
00:25:14.920 So look, it's not there yet.
00:25:16.620 Last night, when we were texting Steve, the church committee is not where it needs to be yet.
00:25:22.940 And that's part of the conversation to make sure that this can't just be, you know, some
00:25:27.700 squirrely oversight committee.
00:25:29.400 It has to be real robust.
00:25:31.560 But so the devil's in the details.
00:25:33.380 I want to frame, zoom out and frame kind of the considerations of where both sides are
00:25:39.380 and why I believe that we are on the precipice of a win-win situation.
00:25:43.480 And even if this thing doesn't allow enough votes for Kevin McCarthy, that's dispositionally
00:25:48.840 where I want to be.
00:25:50.260 I want to make sure that this is the deal the next guy has to agree to.
00:25:54.120 But there is a merit in what's being done.
00:25:56.900 And it would not be possible if the only Kevins had gotten their way.
00:26:01.080 The only Kevins on Fox News, the only Kevins on Twitter, those are the people that did not
00:26:07.320 allow us to be in the moment where we, for the first time in 50, 60 years, really since
00:26:11.540 Sam Rayburn's speakership, we're on the precipice of decentralized power of a leadership that
00:26:17.480 has been weakened.
00:26:18.300 And once one speaker agrees to it, that is the new paradigm.
00:26:24.600 So you're convinced of that.
00:26:26.280 You think we've shifted this enough that if you still defeat McCarthy in this and you
00:26:31.240 take a hard line, that that is the baseline.
00:26:33.200 That is an absolute baseline that we use going forward.
00:26:36.620 We have to make it so.
00:26:38.020 There's no way that we can allow anything that he agrees to.
00:26:42.920 And maybe he doesn't get Matt Rosendale's vote.
00:26:45.360 And I'm not going to disagree with Matt Rosendale on that or some other member.
00:26:49.940 He's going to have a hard time getting across the finish line.
00:26:52.480 But this is the new baseline.
00:26:54.220 And the first person that's willing to come to the table and say, I'm for that.
00:26:58.200 And I want to go further.
00:26:59.180 I want to have a rules committee chairman that is not a part of leadership.
00:27:04.240 That's this is the baseline.
00:27:05.860 We are now moving in a different direction.
00:27:08.840 Can I ask you to hold for one second?
00:27:11.400 I got a couple more questions.
00:27:12.460 I know you're absolutely slammed.
00:27:13.660 Remember, the architect of a lot of this is is the center that Russ runs.
00:27:19.540 I've got to ask him about the spending.
00:27:20.860 I've got Tiffany Justice.
00:27:22.260 We're going to try to get we've got a number of the actual combatants that are signed up to
00:27:28.600 come on.
00:27:29.100 But I think they're starting their conference call.
00:27:30.640 So it's not going to be we may not.
00:27:33.720 We're going to have them in and out, maybe by phone.
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00:29:27.540 Okay, welcome back.
00:29:29.400 Russ Vogt is going to hang with us for a few minutes.
00:29:31.460 We have Andy Ogles from Tennessee 5, that hard-fought district.
00:29:36.460 Andy joins us.
00:29:37.480 Congressman-elect Ogles joins us.
00:29:39.520 Congressman Punchbowl's Jake Sherman just tweeted out that McCarthy's announcing
00:29:44.940 there's a deal, or at least a handshake deal, between himself and Chip Roy,
00:29:48.620 who I guess is the lead negotiator.
00:29:50.520 Can you give us any background on that, sir?
00:29:52.760 Yeah, I mean, so for, you know, all your listeners, viewers, you know, these negotiations have
00:29:59.560 been ongoing for months.
00:30:01.400 And when I was elected in November as a member of the Freedom Caucus, I became a part of those
00:30:06.100 conversations.
00:30:06.680 We've been hard at work.
00:30:08.640 You know, for me, even personally, I've been up at, you know, 2 o'clock in the morning as
00:30:14.720 we've had these meetings, as we've worked on this rules package.
00:30:17.600 And I think I want to make it clear for me, it's not about the person.
00:30:22.040 It's about how Congress is run.
00:30:24.060 You know, we both know Congress is broken.
00:30:27.220 Spending is out of control.
00:30:28.640 So we need mechanisms to rein that in.
00:30:30.820 And so that is my focus, is how do we contain this runaway government?
00:30:36.140 And so these rules, and I always give an example, think about a Monopoly game or a red light,
00:30:40.940 green light, that game you played as a kid, is that the rules can favor a particular player.
00:30:46.480 The rules can determine the outcome.
00:30:49.160 And the way the rules have been for the last decade or more in Congress is the rules deny
00:30:54.900 regular members like myself, if you're not in leadership, deny us the ability to really
00:31:00.060 play the game.
00:31:01.240 And I hate to say game, but that kind of is what it is at times.
00:31:04.640 And so what we're focusing on is how do we get a better deal for the American people?
00:31:08.500 So we've stood the line.
00:31:09.840 We've refused to participate until we get a package that reflects the intent of our founders
00:31:15.260 that I, the representative, the people's house, have a voice.
00:31:18.720 And so we're working on it.
00:31:20.100 There is no deal yet.
00:31:21.700 I will say that it's close.
00:31:23.800 We're going back and forth.
00:31:25.120 I literally stepped out of a Freedom Caucus meeting to talk to you guys.
00:31:28.880 And so it's ongoing.
00:31:30.420 Chip is one of the lead negotiators.
00:31:32.660 He's done a fantastic job, by the way.
00:31:34.960 I mean, you talk about, you know, I put in a lot of time, and that even pales in comparison
00:31:39.200 to what Chip's put in.
00:31:40.100 Congressman, Tennessee 5 was one of the hardest fought primaries and then districts.
00:31:45.400 What are the folks back home, what are they telling you?
00:31:48.080 Because now you're one of these patriots of the 20.
00:31:50.380 Every day people are taking shots at you guys.
00:31:52.660 You're screwing up the country.
00:31:54.600 You're recalcitrant.
00:31:56.480 There's nothing getting done.
00:31:58.920 All these lies and misrepresentations.
00:32:01.240 When you talk to the folks every day back in your district, what are they telling you?
00:32:06.120 Yeah, I mean, I think, again, let's go back in time a little bit.
00:32:10.800 You know, during COVID, I was a mayor, a county executive in the state of Tennessee.
00:32:15.000 That meant I was like a mini governor, right?
00:32:16.780 So I had the authority when it came to COVID.
00:32:19.100 And I refused to comply with any of the mandates.
00:32:21.580 I refused to shut down.
00:32:23.360 And I helped force the state of Tennessee to stay open.
00:32:26.700 And so I was elected to Congress, not because I'm someone who's going to go along to get along,
00:32:32.960 not because I'm some wilting flower.
00:32:34.940 Or they sent me up here because I'm a fighter.
00:32:36.920 And as you said, that was a hard-fought race.
00:32:39.280 It was a nine-way primary.
00:32:41.000 They spent $2 million against me in the last three months of that race.
00:32:44.840 And I prevailed, and I prevailed handily in thinking in the general.
00:32:48.820 So, again, I think people expect me to fight.
00:32:51.480 That's what I'm doing.
00:32:52.680 And the support from back home is, quite frankly, overwhelming.
00:32:56.560 The reason I want to bring that up and your background is this is not your first rodeo when it comes to tough fights and misrepresentations and all that.
00:33:05.120 But do you feel confident that you can trust that there's enough detail here, particularly on the spending side and then on the rules, that actually begins to break the cartel?
00:33:17.380 Is Andy Ogles committing to his people in Tennessee 5, hey, if we get this done, I'm committing to you that we will make this work.
00:33:25.320 And there will not be a bait and switch here, sir.
00:33:28.040 Well, you know, I'll say that I think everybody is working in good faith.
00:33:36.080 The deal, as it is, isn't as tight as I personally would like it.
00:33:40.840 I'm not the only person in the room that's a part of these negotiations, so we work on this as a body.
00:33:48.280 But regardless, if we decide to move forward, we'll only move forward if it's a good package, a good rules package for the American people.
00:33:57.380 There are certain things that we want on this that makes sure – you know, it's called, quote-unquote, regular order.
00:34:03.180 We want rules that get us back to what you would call regular order, where I can offer an amendment that takes out some crazy monkey research in Amazon and their own cocaine.
00:34:13.940 I mean, I just don't care.
00:34:15.180 The American people don't care about that.
00:34:17.060 If we're going to spend money in Ukraine, I want accountability, okay?
00:34:20.340 I'm not against Ukraine, but those are our dollars.
00:34:23.200 That's our taxpayer dollars.
00:34:24.920 It's the money of the people, and they deserve accountability.
00:34:28.020 And so that's what we're fighting to restore.
00:34:30.080 And quite frankly, I'm not going to back down until we get it.
00:34:33.220 And particularly for Conservative Inc. and a lot of the conservative media, if you individuals had not taken this hard stand, would we have gotten any changes whatsoever in how the cartel works, sir?
00:34:44.020 You know, it's hard for me to know what might have happened, but unlikely.
00:34:51.740 I mean, literally some of – and I don't want to speak too soon.
00:34:55.120 I don't want to reveal the details because they're not set in stone yet, so I don't want them to speak.
00:34:58.740 But some of the changes that we're fighting for and that we're working on and that are currently on paper, you have members of this body that have been working on these changes, trying to achieve these changes for a decade or more, two decades or more.
00:35:14.580 And so here we are in this moment of truth, provided primarily because we have a slim majority in the Republican House, that we're able to force these changes.
00:35:25.480 And quite frankly, I am humbled. It is an honor to be a part of that group that is making these changes happen.
00:35:33.460 Because like I said – and I'll say this. There's a lot of members that are currently voting for Kevin that are coming to us and saying thank you for taking a stand and for trying to change the way America is run.
00:35:47.780 Congressman Ogles, what's the social media? How can people follow you during this intense period that we're about to enter starting at noon today when the curtain goes up?
00:35:55.480 You can go to Facebook.com slash Andy Ogles. If you just type in my name, I'm sure you'll find the page.
00:36:03.600 But Facebook, I'm on Twitter. I need to do a better job, quite frankly, of adding content to those.
00:36:09.180 But as a new guy, I'm really focused. I've been so focused on the fight and getting the outcome that the American people want.
00:36:16.740 I've kind of gotten tunnel vision on that. You know, I've rolled up my sleeves.
00:36:19.760 I've taped up my knuckles, and here we go. And so I'll try to do a better job of getting those updates out there for you guys.
00:36:27.460 And I really appreciate you having me on.
00:36:30.280 No, you've got to do that because people want to find out more about you and more about the details.
00:36:34.060 This audience is into the details of this fight. So thank you very much, sir, and thank you for fighting.
00:36:39.700 Yes, sir. Y'all have a great day, and God bless.
00:36:41.160 Thank you. So Russ Vogt, Ogles just stepped out of – and by the way, that was a brutal primary down there in five.
00:36:51.880 In fact, Andy was running against a Trump-endorsed candidate and won. That's how tough that fight was.
00:36:56.700 Let's go back to this. The outline – let's go to the spending part of it first because if I got a spending issue, I got a Russ Vogt first in the Trump administration.
00:37:05.800 He's a guy – you can't fool you. Now, walk me through at least what you know of the spending issues here, which kind of get to the – it's a rules package and a way to break the cartel, open it up, and it's also about spending, about no more games, no more nonsense.
00:37:20.460 Are you comfortable from what you're seeing and hearing about the spending side?
00:37:25.820 Well, again, he is right that there – to my knowledge, there is no deal yet.
00:37:29.500 They are ironing out the details, but what I – the terms that they are negotiating are very encouraging on the spending side for two reasons.
00:37:38.740 Number one, they're committing to doing a balance in 10-year budget, and they're going to put a specific number in there that overrides the appropriators in this fight and saying at the very least it's going to be this number.
00:37:53.660 I don't want to say what that number would be, and that is going to be decided here and now.
00:37:58.860 So when they come and do the budget, there's now no fight over are the moderates going to tank the budget because it doesn't – it actually balances or there's too many cuts.
00:38:09.620 That's going to be a huge win, and they're also going to set up the debt limit fight and the terms by which they are not going to move a bill out of the House to give to Senate Republicans and Senate Democrats to raise the debt limit unless it meets the terms of their balanced budget.
00:38:26.900 So again, Matt Rosendale is very, very right when he says those are the types of things that require future action.
00:38:37.020 But one of the things that I look for in a term sheet like this is are you setting as much as you possibly can in the moment for the future battle?
00:38:49.780 So yes, you're going to have to play out the game, but you're trying to take away in the moment that you have leverage.
00:38:55.960 And here's the thing.
00:38:57.580 This is going to be protected now by the fact that the House conservatives will largely be in control of the House Rules Committee.
00:39:06.020 So previously, if Denny Hastert or Paul Ryan wrote on a piece of paper these meaningless promises, you'd have no recourse whatsoever.
00:39:15.940 Now, the entirety of the procedural control of the House will be in the hands of the House conservatives to be able to make sure that any spending bill coming to the floor, any debt limit bill coming to the floor, meets the provisions of the term sheet.
00:39:31.000 So that is why I'm encouraged by the direction of where this is, and I'm looking forward to seeing the final details.
00:39:38.480 Let me ask you the logic.
00:39:41.760 To put – to give the power to the Freedom Caucus or to the harder right people, which we admire, and quite frankly, most of them are not even as hard right as we are on this budget issues and the debt limit because we're saying nothing and you've got to get to the Federal Reserve.
00:39:56.760 But given the fact that the way the apparatus – and you've been the best of being the architect of what the strategy is here.
00:40:04.360 Given that the cartel is not going to give up control of a $5.5 trillion, $6 trillion every year budget.
00:40:11.780 Why – just in the thing of McCarthy's throwing everything into the fire to make sure he can get – he'll do anything at any point in time and tell you anything at any point in time to get it done.
00:40:21.180 Why on earth would not just he agree but that kind of – that cult of Kevin, which I call it, and I think that's 60, 80 members.
00:40:29.260 Why would they ever agree to let the inmates – because what you're saying is that the inmates will run the asylum, basically.
00:40:36.680 Why would they ever – I know our 20 of who would – who's maybe the softer nose on that and would go for it versus the harder, the Matt Rosendales and Bob Goodes and Gates.
00:40:47.400 But why would McCarthy and the team around him, given that they're bought and paid for by the lobbyists, why would the lobbyists allow them to let the inmates run the asylum, sir?
00:40:57.200 I think that's the conversation they're having right now.
00:41:00.380 I think they're trying to figure out, you know, there's – we're making progress.
00:41:06.140 There's a move towards an agreement.
00:41:08.460 They're going to have a conference call with their members.
00:41:11.960 And it's very possible that the members don't agree with this, that the house of cards on the only Kevins falls apart,
00:41:19.300 that those who were waiting in the wings to be the viable candidate, in the words of Mick Mulvaney,
00:41:24.980 to get 218, that they say – they bolt and say, no, we're not going to be a part of this.
00:41:30.880 So, you know, you have this moment in time where McCarthy wants it so badly
00:41:35.240 and has been just raked over the coals for another – this awesome four days,
00:41:40.080 this historic four days that these 20 patriots allowed us to have, to be in this position.
00:41:46.120 But we don't know whether the cartel is going to – is going to bless it or not.
00:41:51.100 Russ, this has been at least two decades, and it's been at least 10 years since the Tea Party,
00:41:57.620 12 years since Tea Party, since the – since the defeat of Cantor in 14, the removal of Boehner in 15,
00:42:04.800 the huge fights we had, as you remember, in 17 and 18.
00:42:09.780 This is historic.
00:42:11.100 Now, if it's – but, you know, there's a massive lack of trust.
00:42:14.760 Everybody understands that.
00:42:15.940 Russ, how do people get to you throughout the day and follow you on social media?
00:42:18.880 Because we're getting into the – and like I said, if people think it's been tough and nasty before,
00:42:23.560 you ain't seen nothing yet.
00:42:24.460 This is going to be really knives out all over.
00:42:26.520 Number one, the lobbyists and they're sitting there going, you crazy?
00:42:29.800 Why are you going to give these – these guys are the most dangerous guys on earth
00:42:33.160 because they want to balance the – they want to stop the spending, right?
00:42:36.600 You can't do that.
00:42:37.520 You can't do – you let the Russ votes in the band and get in on the debt ceiling.
00:42:41.300 It's game over.
00:42:42.700 So how do people follow you, Russ?
00:42:44.160 They can give me an at Russ vote, and that's on all of the social media channels,
00:42:49.820 and we'll be updating it as much as we possibly can in beating back bad information
00:42:54.540 and giving you signal, not noise.
00:42:57.600 Perfect.
00:42:58.180 The 10-year balanced budget is based off the predicate you laid out, your work, essentially?
00:43:03.580 It would be very consistent with it.
00:43:06.980 Russ vote.
00:43:07.480 You're a hero and a patriot, sir.
00:43:08.920 Thank you for joining us.
00:43:10.020 Thanks, Steve.
00:43:10.120 Okay.
00:43:12.640 Tiffany Justice is going to talk about what the country thinks of this.
00:43:15.540 John Freck's going to come in and say, no way.
00:43:17.960 Fight on.
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00:45:15.280 Welcome back, Friday, 6th January in the year of our Lord, 1773.
00:45:21.440 That's what it feels like because there's a revolt that is in brewing.
00:45:24.520 Breaking news here.
00:45:25.660 I want to make sure everybody understands this in this posse.
00:45:28.620 So Jake Sherman at Punchbowl, and he's one of the most best-sourced, dialed-in guys in media.
00:45:35.380 He's got his own site now that just covers Capitol Hill.
00:45:37.920 He put out a little while ago that Kevin McCarthy announced on the GOP call that he and Chip Roy have a deal.
00:45:46.280 Chip Roy's press office instantaneously came out.
00:45:50.200 He did not say this, and any agreement will take us all.
00:45:53.760 We are making progress, but don't let the sharks confuse the ongoing engagement.
00:45:57.340 If you want to have your voice heard now, the number is 202-225-3121.
00:46:04.800 That is the main switchboard for Capitol Hill.
00:46:06.580 You can ask for any congressman.
00:46:08.100 Get your punch list out.
00:46:09.940 Make your calls.
00:46:10.700 Have your voice heard.
00:46:11.520 Send your emails.
00:46:12.960 And by the way, get your congressman's local office and make sure they're here there too, whether you're for or again.
00:46:19.820 As I tell everybody, you know, people talk this cutesy thing, drain the swamp, and we want to drain the swamp.
00:46:27.680 We want to drain the swamp.
00:46:28.440 Put the – this is – you're sitting at the adults table, okay?
00:46:33.220 This show is different than all the others because you're sitting at the adults table, and we get down into the weeds, and then they agree because this is how you're going to have to take on the apparatus.
00:46:40.600 If you want to have the cutesy term drain the swamp, he's not draining the swamp.
00:46:43.780 Now, this is the pick-and-shovel work that has to be done, and trust me, there are knives out for these guys, these men and women like you've never seen before.
00:46:53.000 The lobbyist community is coming together, and they don't want to – and I think Rosendale said in the beginning, the thing he's seen is just too general and leaves them too many rules.
00:47:00.120 Now, that being said, they have not just moved the Overton window.
00:47:03.620 These are things for 20 years haven't – they just told them no, no, no, no, no.
00:47:07.120 So that's why it's a historic moment, and we're going to see how it plays out.
00:47:10.660 But I've got to tell you, the people who are saying McCarthy cannot be the speaker under any circumstances because he can't be trusted is a hard, hard, hard group, and I don't see how you move those guys, those men and women.
00:47:24.960 And I think Boebert is part of that, and she's stepped up, and I think she's been a hero the last couple of days.
00:47:30.180 Let's go to Tiffany Justice.
00:47:31.320 Tiffany, you're on the deck plates at the school board level with this parental rights movement.
00:47:36.880 Does this seem like something that's so esoteric?
00:47:39.280 They're talking about these rules packages and spending on – it's so beyond it.
00:47:43.260 Or because you've seen this, viewership is kind of galvanized on what's happening.
00:47:47.640 How is it playing out there in America, and how does it tie into your parental rights movement, ma'am?
00:47:53.680 I think D.C. finally looks like the rest of the country, Steve.
00:47:57.420 This has been happening all over the country for the past two years.
00:48:00.160 I've told you before, a lot of our members haven't been involved in politics before, and they felt somewhat politically homeless in the past two years as they've gone to elected officials, Republicans or Democrats, and their concerns have fallen on deaf ears.
00:48:13.420 Representative Bob Good spoke yesterday, and he said that his constituents are telling him that they are done with the status quo, that they want changes to happen.
00:48:22.040 And so we're just incredibly thankful to see that there's real action being taken to try to correct the course of the country.
00:48:28.900 Moms and dads on the ground know that the direction this country is taking is not a good future for their children.
00:48:35.180 When you have these – when they're talking about these esoteric rules packages, the people, do you think, get the joke that the system's broken?
00:48:44.340 Everybody says the system's broken, yet the Democrats and MSNBC, they've run it like this under Pelosi a couple of times.
00:48:51.280 This is how it ran under Boehner.
00:48:52.380 I mean, people are saying – and Fredericks knows this – from the Tea Party movement on, that was 12 years ago.
00:48:57.320 So all these kind of concerns were dismissed, and we got rid of Kanner, and we got rid of Boehner, and eventually got rid of Ryan, and still there was no structural changes.
00:49:05.720 Is it too esoteric for people, or are they kind of engaged and they say, hey, I may not understand how this all works, but there's something important going on here.
00:49:13.580 I think a lot of Americans are starting to understand how it works.
00:49:17.140 And I think the past few days have been incredibly telling as we have seen these 20 patriots standing up, asking questions, demanding changes, be villainized by the left, by the right, by all media.
00:49:29.200 I heard some people on Fox the other day talking about the 20 patriots standing up and not willing to move forward without rules changes, and they called them saboteurs.
00:49:39.480 And at one point they were called insurrectionists.
00:49:41.660 So you have the American people watching as there are lies that are being sold to them, that somehow the House is going to go to the Democrats.
00:49:50.260 We're going to have a Democrat speaker, and that is just not the case.
00:49:54.380 There's been all kinds of fear-mongering about, oh, we need to get to work.
00:49:57.260 This is costing too much money for the American people.
00:49:59.980 I think what the patriots, the people that are standing up, Byron Donalds, Bob Goode, Lauren Boebert, need to know is that the American people are behind them.
00:50:07.760 They understand that this is a messy process.
00:50:10.240 You know, Steve, I'm a registered Republican, but I would be lying to you if I said that I was accepted with open arms by the Republican Party in my own county.
00:50:20.660 And parents and moms and dads that are Republicans that have looked to be more involved in the political process in their hometowns have not been welcomed by the establishment.
00:50:29.980 In fact, I think sometimes Republicans have done more to hurt this parental rights movement overall than Democrats ever could have.
00:50:36.360 So I think you have a nation of people that are very excited to see people stamping up, speaking out, and not waiting for some turn that they're supposed to wait in order for their voice to be heard.
00:50:46.920 They were elected to serve and do the job at hand, and that is exactly what they're doing.
00:50:51.220 Is this for the parents' rights movement and at the deck place for people getting engaged, as school board levels want to take it on, is this going to increase their enthusiasm?
00:51:02.240 Are they going to say, this is so corrupt, I just want to go back and, you know, I'll worry about my kids, but I can't do this because even at the top level, it's so corrupt and incompetent.
00:51:11.900 Where will this break? More engagement or less engagement?
00:51:15.380 More engagement. This is a glimmer of hope in a place that we didn't think we would see it for a very long time, to see people standing up and speaking out and really, you know, speaking to the American public and saying, we hear you.
00:51:27.160 We hear that you're concerned. We know this country is heading in the wrong direction.
00:51:30.780 There was a gentleman that got up yesterday and his name escapes me. I apologize.
00:51:34.320 He nominated McCarthy and he had a piece of paper and it was blank.
00:51:38.200 And he said, you see this piece of paper? It's blank because no one ever asks me to cut spending.
00:51:42.800 Only people in my in my constituents ask me to to increase spending.
00:51:46.740 Well, I've got a message for him. That's just isn't true.
00:51:49.480 The American parents are very concerned about the debt that our children are going to inherit.
00:51:54.320 And we want to be the ones to make changes.
00:51:56.740 I believe it was Thomas Paine who said, if there is trouble, let it be in my day so that my children can live in peace.
00:52:02.760 So you have a nation of citizens that are ready for the fight.
00:52:06.140 We're ready to take our country back and start moving in a better and brighter direction for our kids.
00:52:11.440 How do they get to you, Tiffany, on social media? How do they get to Moms for Liberty?
00:52:15.180 Yeah, go to momsforliberty.org. You can follow us.
00:52:18.040 Go to the website. Sign up to be a member or start a chapter if you can, if you have the time and the commitment to do that.
00:52:24.000 Follow me on social media at or Tiffany Justice.
00:52:27.300 You can follow us at Moms, the number for Liberty, Tina Deskovich, also the co-founder on Twitter.
00:52:32.480 Follow us and help us to move this country forward together.
00:52:37.140 Tiffany, thank you very much.
00:52:38.900 90-second break.
00:52:39.920 John Frederick, Steve Cortez, Congressman Bob Good.
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