Bannon's War Room - January 07, 2023


Episode 2425： The Patriotic Hold Outs For Speaker


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Stephen K. Bannon is back in the War Room to talk about the debt ceiling and debt ceiling crisis, and how to deal with it. He also talks about the impact on the midterms and the upcoming primary election in Montana.

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00:00:00.960 This is the primal scream of a dying regime.
00:00:05.880 Pray for our enemies, because we're going medieval on these people.
00:00:11.080 You're just not going to free shot all these networks lying about the people.
00:00:15.400 The people have had a belly full of it.
00:00:17.360 I know you don't like hearing that.
00:00:18.740 I know you've tried to do everything in the world to stop that,
00:00:20.500 but you're not going to stop it. It's going to happen.
00:00:22.700 And where do people like that go to share the big line?
00:00:26.120 Mega media.
00:00:27.000 I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.
00:00:32.880 Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?
00:00:36.640 If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.
00:00:43.020 Warwick. Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.
00:00:46.200 There was a, you know, there was a similar effort to try and, you know, tie the debt ceiling to all kinds of concessions.
00:01:00.680 And, you know, it took us to the precipice of what would have been a catastrophe.
00:01:04.860 And so, you know, this is why I understand the sort of sport of all of this.
00:01:12.400 But the aftermath is going to be very, very important.
00:01:14.920 One of the things.
00:01:15.840 What exactly did Kevin McCarthy give away to gain these votes?
00:01:19.080 And I know that there's lots of reporting out there.
00:01:20.860 We've seen some generalities, but we don't know.
00:01:22.560 We don't actually know the specifics of what was promised.
00:01:25.900 What how does the rules?
00:01:27.020 How does the rules committee seats shake out?
00:01:30.000 Will Kevin McCarthy actually be able to govern if, in fact, he clinches the speaker's gavel today?
00:01:35.580 And I would venture to say it's very unlikely.
00:01:37.920 If this is what it's like to pick a speaker, when Republicans have the majority,
00:01:41.420 the same majority the Democrats had in the last Congress,
00:01:44.640 what will it be like when it comes to funding the government,
00:01:47.360 when it comes to the debt ceiling, when it comes to funding for Ukraine,
00:01:49.920 when it comes to anything of consequence for the American people?
00:01:53.140 Can Kevin McCarthy be trusted to negotiate on behalf of his caucus?
00:01:56.320 Or will we see these extremists, these never Kevins, 0.83
00:02:01.000 going to take on a more outsized role where they are now brought into negotiations
00:02:05.700 at the highest levels because no one can trust if Kevin McCarthy can get their vote?
00:02:11.060 But that seems to be that's going to have to be the strategy for the rest of the day
00:02:14.360 is try to pick one by one by one.
00:02:17.120 It's kind of winding down, right?
00:02:18.640 Chairman Harris.
00:02:20.020 There may be some subcommittee chairs and committee chairs born in the next 48 hours.
00:02:25.420 One guy I'm watching is Rosendale of Montana.
00:02:28.940 I just think you can't downplay the significance of the Senate primary politics going on.
00:02:34.400 Montana will be one of the biggest pickup opportunities for the Republicans in 24.
00:02:38.360 Zinke and Rosendale from Montana, the two reps are circling each other on that raise.
00:02:43.160 If I were Ryan Zinke and I wanted to be a mischief maker,
00:02:46.440 I'd get on the phone with Montana media right now and say,
00:02:49.120 every time Rosendale casts a vote to prolong this,
00:02:52.800 he's essentially voting with the Democrats to protect Joe Biden from our subpoenas and our investigations.
00:02:58.100 Of all the issues going on out there that are motivating to the Republican base,
00:03:02.400 the notion of somehow delaying or not investigating Joe Biden would be the most agitating.
00:03:07.840 So you want to get like hyper-local and how to twist the knife here?
00:03:11.460 In Montana, that's the way.
00:03:13.980 Let me tell the folks in Montana, that's Scott Jennings.
00:03:16.680 He's the running dog of Mitch McConnell, and we'll get into that in a second.
00:03:20.280 It is Friday, 6th January, Year of Our Lord, 2023.
00:03:23.180 Thank you.
00:03:24.320 You're here for the late afternoon and early evening edition of The War Room.
00:03:28.660 I want to start.
00:03:29.400 A lot going on.
00:03:31.520 We still haven't seen any deal.
00:03:33.760 We're hearing about it where there are guys having a press conference about it or stand-up press conference, kind of pop-ups.
00:03:40.820 We're hearing parts of this, but clearly a big part of the 21 have gone and said,
00:03:47.880 hey, we're negotiating this.
00:03:49.600 We have this deal.
00:03:50.740 It's got a lot of great things in it on debt ceiling, on spending, on the rule.
00:03:55.800 If you look at three buckets, on kind of rules and processes of what I call regular order,
00:04:00.080 spending is another bucket with debt ceiling, spending, restrictions.
00:04:05.080 They're talking about going to a fiscal year 22 baseline, all kind of complicated stuff about getting control of the spending.
00:04:11.880 And then you've got the investigations, and particularly you've got this joint committee or a subcommittee now on the weaponization of government,
00:04:20.720 really what is called a church committee.
00:04:22.300 I want to get Matt Rosendale in here, and I just want to make sure people at home understand Scott Jennings is a former McConnell running dog,
00:04:33.380 and he's on CNN, very slick guy, comms guy.
00:04:37.820 Right there, that's the big misdirection play.
00:04:40.000 You know, everybody in the – because all Republicans and all MAGA like the shiny toy, right?
00:04:45.560 They like the shiny toy, and so they're looking at the shiny toy investigation.
00:04:48.120 The investigations are coming, and they're going to be systematic, and they're going to be serious.
00:04:53.860 Whether that happens today, next week, or the following week, it doesn't matter.
00:04:56.460 You know, people are already pulling this information from last year, et cetera.
00:05:00.620 Also, the number one thing is the investigations are absolutely critical and very important,
00:05:06.940 but the number one thing is obviously get control of the country's finances.
00:05:10.700 And that's what Mitch McConnell and his running dog, Scott Jennings, never want to talk to you about.
00:05:13.860 The number one priority, Brother Jennings, write this down, take out your number two pencil, is to get control of the spending.
00:05:20.860 And yes, sir, since your former boss was the guy that jammed through with the collaborators, the omnibus bill,
00:05:29.880 the number one thing Mitch McConnell wants to deliver for all the lobbyists, all the corporations,
00:05:35.720 all the Wall Street cronies and oligarchs is a huge debt ceiling increase.
00:05:40.400 So no, Scott, we're not taking misdirection play.
00:05:42.320 Congressman Matt Rosendale from Montana, too, the subject of that last.
00:05:48.380 So, Congressman, where do we stand?
00:05:50.200 I think there's what we call the six to save America that are hanging tough.
00:05:54.460 Never know if some other people may come back, Paul Gosar or others.
00:05:58.360 But where do we stand?
00:05:59.300 You guys adjourn until 10 o'clock tonight.
00:06:01.620 I'm sure there's a couple of star chambers going on in the dead of night.
00:06:06.760 We're going to talk about some of the games they may play.
00:06:08.920 But give us your assessment of where you think we stand right now.
00:06:12.320 So we had a not what I would call a highly successful day for the people of America.
00:06:18.800 We did lose some ground on the support that we had gathered together to move forward the agenda to actually make real reform in the House of Representatives,
00:06:29.120 to change the rules so that we had a more open system so that each of the members were able to represent their districts equally
00:06:36.800 and to make sure that we had leadership in place that we could rely upon to help us achieve that.
00:06:44.440 So we are still there together.
00:06:46.600 It's a much smaller group.
00:06:48.320 You know, Steve, when you are cooking and you're trying to create a really nice sauce for a dish that you're going to serve up to your wife for a special event, Valentine's Day,
00:06:59.440 the more you reduce it, the better it gets.
00:07:02.520 So, by golly, you know, I would like to think we've got the special sauce right now.
00:07:06.420 And we are still trying to deliver the message to the American people that we are fighting for them.
00:07:12.200 The team may be small, but we are solid.
00:07:14.860 And we are trying to make sure that we push forward.
00:07:17.360 There are negotiations that are going on.
00:07:19.580 We had pushed forward many of these concepts early on in this process.
00:07:24.700 As you know, we've been discussing this for quite some time, all the way back in the summer.
00:07:28.920 And it seems that they are trying to refine more of the points.
00:07:34.980 But as you made perfectly clear, the rules won't be voted upon until after the speaker is seated.
00:07:41.140 So, that's a bit problematic if they seat a speaker that you're not so sure that will actually push those rules forward and advocate for them and champion them and then uphold them.
00:07:56.440 So, there's an incredible leap of faith that there's a lot of people taking right now that clearly I have not been willing to take that leap of faith.
00:08:05.160 Let me go to something.
00:08:08.380 I talked to a lot of people in the hedge fund community on Wall Street, throughout the world, different capital markets and corporate executives.
00:08:16.600 One thing to get started, when you first approached McCarthy and others first approached McCarthy, was it in the summer?
00:08:22.980 How long ago have there been discussions about what had to change?
00:08:27.900 Yeah, that was back in the summer.
00:08:29.380 There was a written list of amendments to the rules that needed to take place, both the conference rules and the House rules, in order to give people the ability to represent their districts better.
00:08:43.040 Yeah, that's sort of back in the summer.
00:08:44.380 And we really weren't greeted to have those conversations at that time.
00:08:51.780 And as I've said, that's because Kevin thought he was going to have 250 or 260 members in the Republican conference and really was not going to have to contend with the people that were there to truly restore this system, our republic.
00:09:09.040 So, it took until November the 9th before we really started having substantive conversations about these rules packages.
00:09:16.480 Now, I do know that they are putting some very good language in place to allow the body to control spending and appropriations as it goes out onto the floor.
00:09:30.940 So, I know that they are trying to do that.
00:09:32.840 But you have to remember that sometime or another, Steve, the Speaker of the House is going to have to go over to the Senate and or the White House and negotiate from some point of strength that here is the best deal that they're going to be able to get.
00:09:52.500 And if they don't negotiate from a point of strength, then they will return to us and bring a product that's just not going to be acceptable.
00:10:03.020 And unfortunately, that's what we've seen many times with Kevin in 2015 and 2017 and 2018 and 2019.
00:10:09.660 And the spending measures that were adopted while he was in the leadership that he helped participate in crafting always ended up getting more Democrat votes than they did Republican votes.
00:10:21.020 And right now, while we are facing $31 trillion, while the rules might allow us to propose amendments and to try and reduce this spending, there's nothing that is proposed in the rules package right now that would have eliminated the $1.7 trillion omnibus deal being passed that we just saw go through.
00:10:48.980 What do you mean by that?
00:10:51.620 It doesn't force it to come to the floor earlier?
00:10:55.040 Because I thought they were trying to put it in regular order.
00:10:57.800 It would bring it to the floor, but you are still going to be able to push that instrument through.
00:11:04.360 And again, so my wishes were to try and make sure that we could refine the rules process to the point that the members would be able to have more control.
00:11:16.420 And so much of that control wasn't consolidated within the rules committee, which is nine members and the speaker, him or herself.
00:11:25.000 I want to go back, you know, because you talk about this and you talk about you're saying, hey, look, you can draft all the packages as possible.
00:11:34.560 I'm just not comfortable with leadership.
00:11:36.140 Kevin McCarthy and correct me if I'm wrong.
00:11:38.300 Kevin McCarthy sat in the Roosevelt room.
00:11:40.380 I don't know, four or five weeks ago at a lunch with Schumer, with McConnell, with Nancy Pelosi and Biden, and he came out.
00:11:50.800 And this is what I'm talking about getting the omnibus through both houses.
00:11:54.160 The reporting and the reporting was had unanimity on this.
00:11:57.920 All four of them agreed with Biden.
00:11:59.640 They were going to push it through.
00:12:00.660 Now, it was afterwards when there was a firestorm, and I think that the war room had something to do with that, a little something to do with it.
00:12:07.140 There was a firestorm in the House with people like yourselves.
00:12:10.920 That's just not as satisfactory.
00:12:12.600 That he then came a couple days later and kind of said, well, you know, he had the press conference.
00:12:15.920 I really know that spending here is just terrible.
00:12:18.320 But once again, his heart's just not in it.
00:12:21.420 Is that a false accusation or incorrect observation of Kevin McCarthy?
00:12:25.960 That's the perception that we all had, that he was voting no and praying yes.
00:12:32.160 You know, I mean, that is the perception.
00:12:34.320 And then the other thing that we talk about, when people say we have got to get to work, we have got to get to work, I can describe two things that we're going.
00:12:42.980 Sure, we need to start doing the oversight.
00:12:45.440 We need to start doing these hearings and finding out and opening up the doors to the FBI and demonstrating exactly what they did.
00:12:54.780 But, Steve, you and I both know, as long as we have a Department of Justice that's compliant with this administration, that the likelihood of us seeing charges and prosecutions coming out of these investigations is pretty thin.
00:13:09.440 So if the oversight and the investigations take a little bit longer to get organized and begin, I really don't see that as being a problem.
00:13:17.900 And then I talked with many of the members on the floor today.
00:13:20.520 I mean, you guys watch C-SPAN, you see everybody every time you're you're in between votes, as long as they're not close to your name, you're circulating around the room and you're talking to your colleagues on the Republican side.
00:13:33.160 You're talking to your colleagues on the Democrat side of the aisle as well.
00:13:36.860 And the reality is, when that omnibus bill passed, it removed all the leverage points from the Republicans to actually start doing something meaningful about securing our southern border and about increasing our domestic energy production until the omnibus expires and we have the new budget to present in September.
00:14:00.300 So really, between now and September, we can plot and plan, but you're not going to be able to there will be trust me, there'll be a lot of messaging legislation that comes out and they're going to send a bill out that says we're going to defund the eighty seven thousand IRS agents.
00:14:17.660 And they're going to send a bill out that says we're going to provide funding for the wall and to secure our border again.
00:14:26.100 But those aren't going anywhere until you can.
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00:15:38.580 Congressman Rosendale, can you, the folks in Montana too, in fact, the folks in the entire state of Montana,
00:15:45.560 I don't think there's any doubt they know that you're going to be all over supportive and getting on with the investigations into the Biden administration, Biden regime, and others, right?
00:15:56.940 Fauci, the whole thing.
00:15:58.600 Is there any doubt?
00:15:59.840 Is the couple of days we need or the week we need or so to work this through, is that going to really hold anything back?
00:16:06.160 Is Scott Jennings correct in that, sir?
00:16:08.440 No, no.
00:16:10.280 I mean, a little bit more time to plan this process that they're going to eventually is going to take place is not hurting those investigations one single solitary bit.
00:16:21.800 I think we've got the highest likelihood of having some kind of success on the Fauci investigations.
00:16:28.500 I mean, my personal opinion, I'm not an attorney and I don't even sit on judiciary, but the Fauci investigations and the Mayorkas investigations.
00:16:37.520 Mayorkas, I do not think it's going to be too much of a stretch to demonstrate that he intentionally has compromised our national security by ignoring policies that would have helped us secure our southern border.
00:16:50.180 And we're not talking about just the number of people that have come into our country, Steve.
00:16:54.760 We are under a chemical attack from China via the drug facilities in Mexico.
00:17:01.340 All the components come from China, go to Mexico, they make the fentanyl, it comes into our country. 0.83
00:17:06.660 Close to 200,000 people have actually died from drug overdoses in our country over the last couple of years.
00:17:12.460 And that's a direct result of most of it from fentanyl from Mexico.
00:17:17.240 And then when you start factoring in the additional human trafficking and the rising crime rates, we know that that poor prosecution and prosecutorial measures have contributed to those problems.
00:17:31.900 But I thought the law enforcement all across the state of Montana and they attribute the increase in crime directly to the poor southern border, the fentanyl, and it has actually reached into the state of Montana.
00:17:43.940 So I believe Mayorkas, we have the highest likelihood of having some kind of legal outcome against him.
00:17:51.860 And I think that the Fauci investigations must be done so that we can at the same time tie in the suppression of facts by big tech from being able to be shared with the general public.
00:18:06.260 And all of that sort of culminates together.
00:18:08.960 And then those will take place.
00:18:10.480 And an additional couple of days for us to have this debate and to make sure that we have the best leadership in place for our republic, it's worth it.
00:18:21.940 Did they – this package is – you know, you've got Daniel Horowitz, you've got other people I really respect putting up that this historic package where Chip Roy and people have negotiated.
00:18:30.960 You've got the three buckets on the debt ceiling and the spending.
00:18:33.280 You've got the rules in regular order and you've got the investigations, particularly the church committee or whatever, this weaponization of government to really go after the FBI, DOJ, and others, national security, DHS.
00:18:45.480 Do – is it your belief that because we were going to see something – you know, McCarthy put out something, right, that was not acceptable.
00:18:54.700 It was too, you know, happy talk.
00:18:56.600 And then they came back with something – the letter that came – Scott Perry sent with nine signatures was much sharper.
00:19:04.080 But they said there's going to be another – actually a deal they're working on is going to have language to exactly your point that if you vote, then rules have got to be set up and things have to happen.
00:19:13.680 You're not going to get the bait and switch.
00:19:15.080 Do you believe that Scott Perry and others that voted today to support McCarthy are giving up their leverage in this historic package that they're trying to – remember, they're comfortable with McCarthy.
00:19:30.960 So that's a big difference than the hard six.
00:19:34.560 Do you believe they're giving up their leverage in going down the path they're going down right now?
00:19:41.760 Yes.
00:19:42.320 I mean the simple answer is yes.
00:19:43.560 Have you ever taken a signed contract to an attorney and they asked him to review it?
00:19:47.720 He says, why?
00:19:48.760 I can't change it.
00:19:49.680 You've already entered into this agreement.
00:19:51.880 They've already entered into the agreement, and they have taken an incredible leap of faith that I said I wasn't able to do, wasn't willing to do.
00:19:59.060 I am very pleased that Chip Roy is still a part of that process, I will tell you, because he's an incredibly intelligent individual that I have an immense amount of trust for.
00:20:10.680 And I hope that they are able to conclude this.
00:20:14.300 But they have just taken an incredible leap of faith, and we are going to be completely reliant on the goodwill and the honor of Kevin McCarthy if he, in fact, becomes the speaker to pass and to uphold this rules package.
00:20:32.140 So they're depending upon the tender mercies of essentially the cartel because their thing is they make changes, and these are historic changes people have been talking about for 20 years.
00:20:41.800 They are historic, and Daniel Horowitz and others will back that up, but it's far from a done deal.
00:20:46.460 You agree with that?
00:20:47.180 Oh, I absolutely think it is far from a done deal.
00:20:51.260 There's a lot of things that must take place in order for those rules to be passed and implemented.
00:20:58.080 You know, Commander Zinke is a friend of mine, and, you know, I've known him, helped him get to come into the Trump administration, think very highly of him.
00:21:12.140 But he said some things here recently that, you know, are not exactly, I don't totally agree with.
00:21:18.600 But here's one thing that's interesting.
00:21:20.400 I just want to make sure I got this right.
00:21:21.860 Because the Commander Zinke was very much for let's just get Kevin McCarthy from the beginning.
00:21:27.580 If we had not gone through this process, and particularly your brilliant speech on the House floor yesterday in this four or five days that's been painful but had to happen,
00:21:37.080 would we be close to having a reform package that people have talked about for 20 or 30 years but have not done?
00:21:44.040 If McCarthy had been just signed off on immediately, would any of this in your mind have happened, sir?
00:21:52.620 None.
00:21:53.620 None of it.
00:21:54.220 I mean, that's the fact.
00:21:55.200 It's just not my opinion.
00:21:57.240 It just simply would not have happened.
00:21:58.640 And we saw that as we tried to engage in these conversations back in the summer when it would not have taken this public display of the republic.
00:22:08.240 And I personally think that this has turned out to be a good thing so that the public can see what is going on.
00:22:15.560 Well, what is it?
00:22:16.240 Daylight is the best disinfectant.
00:22:18.380 And there has been a lot of daylight shed on how the House actually operates and how people across this country think it operates.
00:22:27.080 And I can assure you that had it not been for the 20 of us standing forward and forcing these votes that we would not be proposing and listening to and discussing the dramatic restoration of the House rules that we are right now.
00:22:49.180 So where you stand right now is that unless there's a change in leadership, you're one of the hard six.
00:22:55.860 You're not really interested.
00:22:57.040 You need to see the change at the top of the cartel.
00:22:59.880 I do.
00:23:00.340 That is correct, Steve.
00:23:02.860 I mean, we have to we have you can't just change the rules because at the end of the day, we have to have confidence in the leadership that's going to be implementing those rules.
00:23:11.260 And sooner or later, that individual is going to have to go back over to the Senate and or to the White House to negotiate in good faith for the Republican conference of the House of Representatives.
00:23:25.020 And that is the you know, that's the person that we have to have that faith in.
00:23:29.820 It's going to say the same thing in that room and on the other side of the building or the other side of the city that they're saying to us in the conference room.
00:23:39.660 How do you think this plays out tonight?
00:23:42.600 Before I let you go, I think it's adjourned till 10 o'clock.
00:23:46.200 Yeah.
00:23:46.780 You know, that's normally one of the best star chambers take places late at night.
00:23:50.240 They say they're going to go all night tonight.
00:23:52.020 What can our audience and the folks out in Montana to expect?
00:23:56.520 You know, I am not sure.
00:23:57.820 I know that there's two Republicans that are returning.
00:23:59.880 They have been out of the chamber.
00:24:01.920 And I don't know if all the Democrats, if any of them are going to be flying out tonight.
00:24:06.600 They have have eliminated the proxy voting.
00:24:09.240 So you're going to have to be there to be able to vote.
00:24:13.160 So I'm not 100 percent sure exactly how this is going to shake out tonight.
00:24:18.540 You know, I'm not.
00:24:20.100 We've been doing a lot of calls on the floor.
00:24:22.900 We really have, Steve.
00:24:23.940 I've heard Omaha yell several times.
00:24:25.860 I thought Peyton Manning was down there voting one day. 1.00
00:24:29.500 A lot of audibles.
00:24:31.200 Congressman Rosendale, how do people follow you?
00:24:33.820 What's the social media?
00:24:34.700 At Rep Rosendale.
00:24:36.920 At Rep Rosendale.
00:24:39.960 Sir, you've really been a patriot and a true leader here over the last couple of days.
00:24:45.060 It's been amazing.
00:24:45.760 So thank you very much.
00:24:46.660 Honor for you to take away the time tonight to come and join us.
00:24:49.240 It's an honor to represent Montana.
00:24:51.420 And this country is worth it.
00:24:53.000 That's why I do it.
00:24:54.560 Well, I got to tell you, they got to be very proud of you out there.
00:24:57.260 You've changed the arc of this country, sir.
00:25:00.700 Scott Jennings probably shouldn't do any consulting in Montana.
00:25:04.040 Maybe that's why, you know, he's led them to the minority. 0.54
00:25:09.120 Thank you, sir.
00:25:10.040 Couldn't agree more.
00:25:11.340 Shouldn't do any consulting anywhere, but that's okay.
00:25:13.280 Thank you, sir.
00:25:15.580 I got John Fredericks.
00:25:17.160 I got Mike Davis.
00:25:18.420 Also, we're trying to, other people are calling and blowing us up.
00:25:20.880 So we're going to try to figure this out.
00:25:21.900 Let's go to Mike Davis.
00:25:22.760 I got a long call open for Fredericks and Davis, but I want to wait to play that on the other
00:25:27.500 side.
00:25:28.380 Mike Davis, give me your assessment of today.
00:25:31.660 Particularly, you're a pretty tough lawyer.
00:25:34.020 What about folks that are agreeing to things that sound good?
00:25:38.380 Do you think it's any chance you get bait and switch by this crowd that they're negotiating
00:25:42.360 with, sir?
00:25:42.820 I think that these 21 House Republicans are being played by Kevin McCarthy.
00:25:50.840 And what's going to happen is when they elect him speaker, he's not going to whip the votes
00:25:56.540 necessary for this negotiated rules package to become the House rules.
00:26:02.920 And you're going to see the, maybe some moderate Democrats working with, or excuse me, moderate
00:26:08.220 Republicans working with Democrats.
00:26:10.620 And I don't think this rules package is going to go through.
00:26:13.280 This is like the congressman just said before us.
00:26:16.680 This is about trusting Kevin McCarthy.
00:26:19.940 And the reason we are here today after what, 12, 13 rounds of voting is because they do not
00:26:25.620 trust Kevin McCarthy.
00:26:26.840 They do not trust Kevin McCarthy.
00:26:28.440 They want to strip the speaker of all of these powers because they don't trust him, right?
00:26:33.420 And so this is what's so puzzling to me is, is why are we insisting that the speaker be
00:26:39.660 Kevin McCarthy if he can't get the trust of 218 of his members?
00:26:44.440 Why, why is it Kevin McCarthy?
00:26:46.340 It's like he's, he's on, like, it's like he's on parole.
00:26:50.700 Like, we don't trust him.
00:26:51.500 He has an ankle bracelet from, from the House Republican conference.
00:26:55.160 It's just bizarre to me.
00:26:56.740 You're going to have, you're going to have a speaker who is so weakened here because
00:26:59.860 they don't trust Kevin McCarthy.
00:27:01.560 How is he going to do when he goes into the White House and he's sitting across the table
00:27:05.200 from White House chief of staff, Ron Klain and Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer.
00:27:08.960 They're going to take his pants down.
00:27:10.840 Hang on one second.
00:27:11.740 We're going to take a short break.
00:27:12.620 We got Fredericks, we got Mike Davis.
00:27:14.120 I'm going to get to the point.
00:27:15.200 They obviously don't trust him.
00:27:16.480 That's where this whole package is and the motion vacate.
00:27:19.340 Yet they're trusting him enough not to close that deal before they give him his vote.
00:27:25.000 Or do they?
00:27:26.320 Will there be any switching?
00:27:27.420 Short commercial break.
00:27:28.500 Back with Fredericks and Davis next.
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00:29:06.320 Macer, tell me exactly what the concessions are as you understand them.
00:29:10.260 Are you now at a one vote threshold to force a vote to keep or lose the speaker if indeed
00:29:17.200 Kevin McCarthy is that person?
00:29:19.560 Yeah, we are now at the one vote threshold that Thomas Jefferson envisioned that lasted
00:29:25.080 for 200 years that didn't change until Nancy Pelosi changed it.
00:29:29.520 It allows any single member of the entire chamber for the purposes of accountability to make a
00:29:35.580 motion to vacate the chair, to take the speaker off the chair.
00:29:38.460 But it still requires a majority to vote that way.
00:29:41.200 But every single member should have that right.
00:29:43.600 The speaker is the most important and the most powerful person in the building.
00:29:48.020 And there needs to be an accountability unlike any other, not only to the American people,
00:29:54.600 but to the members of this body.
00:29:56.320 All right.
00:29:56.540 So you obviously, as the chair of the House Freedom Caucus, had sway, some persuasive power
00:30:01.920 over some of these other members.
00:30:03.960 But we just heard the names of those, you know, this is not going to go Kevin McCarthy's
00:30:08.380 way yet.
00:30:09.500 And we're going to wait for this next round of voting to get underway.
00:30:12.560 But he's at 214 right now.
00:30:14.320 And he needs to be 216, 217, 218, somewhere in there.
00:30:17.560 And you still have Eli Crane, Rosendale, Boebert and Gates voting against.
00:30:22.940 Which of those individuals do you think might peel off and change their mind today or tomorrow
00:30:27.460 or the next day?
00:30:28.720 Well, look, I'm not going to speak for him other than to say they are my friends.
00:30:31.940 They are patriots and their cause is just.
00:30:34.720 But I will say this.
00:30:35.580 We have a framework of an agreement that we have gotten to in good faith, myself included.
00:30:40.200 When you get what you ask for, then you should say yes.
00:30:43.620 If there's something that's missing that can get them to the point of agreement, if there's
00:30:47.540 something that concerns them, we want to hear about it.
00:30:50.160 What do you think that could be?
00:30:51.420 I mean, what do you think the sticking points are with these individuals at this point?
00:30:54.280 Because they seem very dug in.
00:30:56.080 Yeah, well, I think one of the problems is, is that unfortunately there's a trust issue
00:31:01.120 here and the arrangement that we've kind of come to the framework is is one that kind
00:31:06.240 of doesn't rely on trust as much as in the past.
00:31:09.520 We shouldn't be reliant on the trust in one person here to get things done for the American
00:31:13.860 people.
00:31:14.260 And so that's the framework that's set up.
00:31:16.860 If it's not enough for them, I get it.
00:31:19.040 So let's find out what is.
00:31:20.520 I don't know individually what their issues are, but you can bet that I'm going to ask.
00:31:24.220 OK, so are you having conversations with these individuals?
00:31:27.460 And do you believe that when this process is over, Kevin McCarthy will be the speaker?
00:31:32.980 Well, it sure looks like he's headed that way right now, again, based on the framework
00:31:36.400 and good faith.
00:31:38.340 That's what works for me.
00:31:39.720 Look, if if if Martha, if if this framework goes, gets blown up, I'm out.
00:31:45.700 You know, I got to start over again.
00:31:47.060 But that's what worked for me.
00:31:48.180 But every individual is different.
00:31:49.880 Their districts are different.
00:31:51.020 Their concerns are different.
00:31:52.060 Their constituents concerns are different.
00:31:54.020 And so I respect that.
00:31:56.100 I'm absolutely talking to them.
00:31:58.100 I've been talking to them.
00:31:59.300 But as you can see, once the dam breaks and you start getting what you what you're asking
00:32:04.180 for on behalf of your country, then it works.
00:32:07.220 I will tell you this, having been in every bit of the negotiations, not one of these individuals
00:32:11.780 has asked for anything for themselves.
00:32:15.440 OK, welcome back.
00:32:16.680 I just want to make sure and I'm going to bring Mike Davis and I got John Fredrickson.
00:32:22.060 Because he says right there, of course, they tweeted it out that if the framework falls
00:32:26.540 apart, I'm out and we've got a framework.
00:32:30.980 I'm kind of confused.
00:32:32.040 I have a tremendous amount of respect for General Scott Perry.
00:32:35.240 He's a good man.
00:32:36.460 He's a tough man.
00:32:37.600 But I'm I'm I'm missing the point.
00:32:39.920 And by the way, what they are doing is historical as far as people have been fighting this for
00:32:43.860 20, 25 years or longer.
00:32:45.720 I'm just having, you know, at Goldman Sachs and other places made my, you know, my professional
00:32:54.360 life built around negotiation, particularly tough negotiations.
00:32:57.640 I just I'm missing the point where you where you lose your leverage unless you have a solid
00:33:06.980 deal that you can hand to somebody and let the media see it and let your constituents see it.
00:33:11.480 I see the buckets and I see the verticals on spending in the debt ceiling and the rules
00:33:16.200 and the process, the regular order and also the investigations, the church committee, if
00:33:19.680 you take those as the three buckets and inside there, you got, you know, a border plan for
00:33:23.520 Texas and you got, you know, guys going to vote on a term.
00:33:25.840 It's all great.
00:33:26.400 It's all great.
00:33:26.880 I just don't know when you're dealing with the cartel, you're dealing with guys that
00:33:31.720 have no hesitation to play smash mouth immediately as you're seeing behind what's happening behind
00:33:39.680 closed doors.
00:33:40.280 That's why.
00:33:40.800 And by the way, they're just tweeting out, reporting out.
00:33:42.760 Somebody asked Eli Crane, you know, a Navy SEAL with a couple of combat tours.
00:33:47.200 And, you know, I know Eli very well.
00:33:48.840 Eli's got that thousand yard stare on you.
00:33:51.260 Eli Crane, one of the McCarthy holdouts, told Kate Sullivan.
00:33:55.040 He has not swayed and will not vote for McCarthy for speaker.
00:33:58.580 Quote, I'm representing my constituents back home.
00:34:01.060 He told CNN in my district, they don't support Kevin McCarthy.
00:34:06.600 End quote.
00:34:07.780 Mike Davis, I'll go to you first.
00:34:09.880 Are you more comfortable with hearing Scott Perry, the head of the Freedom Caucus?
00:34:13.920 And right now, you know, a lot of people are saying they've given up too much.
00:34:16.680 You got these radicals and extremists.
00:34:18.720 Can this deal, this historic deal for that part of it, the guys that are saying, I can live
00:34:24.140 with McCarthy, there's certain guys that can't, and they're not going to change out the head
00:34:27.740 of the cartel.
00:34:28.600 Do you feel comfortable being a lawyer and knowing how this town works and knowing how
00:34:33.960 the cartel works, that they really even have a deal, sir?
00:34:39.700 Not at all.
00:34:40.420 Not at all.
00:34:40.880 So Kevin McCarthy needs to write a letter saying that if he does not whip the votes necessary
00:34:47.940 to pass this negotiated rules package, when he becomes the speaker, he needs to resign.
00:34:53.580 He needs to stick by it.
00:34:54.460 And that would be the only way these House Republicans would have any assurance that this negotiated
00:35:00.380 rules package is going to get through.
00:35:02.260 Remember, Kevin McCarthy has 216 votes right now once Buck gets back into the House.
00:35:07.100 So there's 216 votes.
00:35:08.360 There are 434 members in the House because there's one Democrat vacancy.
00:35:14.380 If one Democrat does not show up tonight, they only need to get 217 votes for Kevin McCarthy.
00:35:20.960 So out of these six holdouts, Biggs, Boebert, Crane, Gates, Good, Rosendale, Kevin McCarthy
00:35:27.880 will only have to pick off one of them if a Democrat does not show up tonight. 0.66
00:35:32.180 I think that's the play.
00:35:33.380 I think that's what Kevin McCarthy is going to do.
00:35:35.520 And then this negotiated rules deal, do you think that Kevin McCarthy is going to lift
00:35:41.460 a finger as the Speaker of the House to get this push through?
00:35:44.760 Hell no.
00:35:45.380 Why would he?
00:35:46.000 Why would he lift it?
00:35:47.480 Once he gets the gavel, he's already moved into the office.
00:35:51.200 So once he gets the gavel and becomes the Speaker, which is what all he wants at all
00:35:55.540 cost.
00:35:56.500 He doesn't have a conservative bone in his body.
00:35:58.360 His only guiding principle is Kevin McCarthy.
00:36:00.400 He's going to get into that office.
00:36:01.620 This negotiated rules package, oh, oh, shucks, it went down.
00:36:06.140 You know, there are too many Republicans joined with Democrats and voted it down.
00:36:09.100 There's no chance in hell this is going to get passed.
00:36:12.280 John Fredericks, let me bring you in.
00:36:14.100 Do you feel any comfort given this historic package that this is the way to go?
00:36:19.000 Or can you trust the cartel?
00:36:20.980 Steve, when you were an executive at Goldman Sachs, if one of your lieutenants brought you
00:36:30.060 this deal, you would have gone to your office, got a paper box, put it in his office, called
00:36:37.060 security, fired him, and tell him he had 15 minutes to vacate and two weeks severance.
00:36:43.180 This deal, this is swap scum.
00:36:46.340 Historic this, historic that.
00:36:48.680 I mean, Mike Davis nailed it.
00:36:50.080 He doesn't have to do anything.
00:36:51.800 This is three card Monty show game.
00:36:54.420 I've got this signed.
00:36:55.540 I got this deal.
00:36:56.340 We're going to vacate after one.
00:36:58.040 That vacate rule has been in for 200 years.
00:37:01.880 Has anybody ever vacated it?
00:37:03.480 You get the same votes.
00:37:04.640 Now, here's what they're going to do.
00:37:06.120 And Mike, you're absolutely correct.
00:37:08.900 He's got 214 votes now, right?
00:37:11.680 He needs to get to it with a 434 to 217.
00:37:16.240 He's three short.
00:37:17.620 He's not going to get to three from the six.
00:37:19.240 So what do they do?
00:37:20.860 They call a vote at midnight.
00:37:22.520 It's like the midnight monster mash.
00:37:24.580 Everybody goes home.
00:37:25.660 All they need is a handful of Democrats to say, hey, I had a sick daughter. 1.00
00:37:29.420 Hey, I had a plan at home.
00:37:30.760 My son's getting married.
00:37:32.400 I got to go on an airplane.
00:37:34.500 They vacate.
00:37:35.540 They're not voting for McCarthy.
00:37:36.960 But hey, they got to go.
00:37:38.380 So they plan a thing at midnight when people go on planes and leave.
00:37:41.740 This is what the swamp does.
00:37:43.560 This has got to be one of the most despicable things.
00:37:45.960 Just let me ask you, what was the point of these brilliant speeches we heard on the floor
00:37:50.960 all week?
00:37:51.940 Oh, Chip Roy, let's do cold open. 0.68
00:37:54.560 You did it.
00:37:55.140 I did it.
00:37:55.740 Both of us did it.
00:37:57.120 We heralded him.
00:37:58.000 He caved, right?
00:37:59.580 What do we get for this?
00:38:01.460 We got absolutely nothing because you and Mike Davis have nailed it.
00:38:06.340 And your instincts, Steve, are spot on here.
00:38:08.580 You would have fired this guy at Goldman Sachs if he came with this deal.
00:38:12.020 Well, here's what basically they're saying, right?
00:38:15.000 We're going to give everything.
00:38:16.260 We're going to give McCarthy the speaker.
00:38:17.520 And then we're going to hope that he actually does something.
00:38:20.300 Nothing is going to change here.
00:38:21.680 It's all going to be the same because the minute he has that gavel, he doesn't care what
00:38:25.680 anybody says.
00:38:27.080 And when you talk about whipping votes, I mean, he's got to have his leadership team
00:38:31.040 in place to whip votes for something he doesn't want that's not in his best interest.
00:38:35.020 So why would he do that?
00:38:35.980 Look, when it comes to shove and they need to pass this continuing resolution or whatever
00:38:42.240 else it is they have to do, they're going to get 190 Democrats to vote their way.
00:38:51.520 It's as simple as that, Steve.
00:38:54.880 I want to go, Mike, you made a point that this is a historic package if it has ever come
00:39:00.760 to fruition, the central thesis, the idea behind the deal is that they don't trust the guy
00:39:09.120 that's going to be speaker.
00:39:09.920 They don't trust the imperial speaker anyway, but particularly this guy.
00:39:15.020 And by the way, they did use motion to vacate to get rid of Boehner.
00:39:17.820 Mark Meadows did pull that off back in, I think, 15, right?
00:39:20.660 Started August, ended right after the Pope came.
00:39:23.100 The whole package is because you don't trust the guy on every aspect from the debt ceiling
00:39:32.100 to the investigations to the rules package.
00:39:36.140 Why then would you, in still negotiating it, give him your vote, sir?
00:39:43.460 Because they're getting tired.
00:39:45.680 They want to go home.
00:39:47.000 It's Friday.
00:39:47.600 I just hope these six Republicans hold the line.
00:39:52.600 But here's the problem.
00:39:53.480 If they can get, again, if they can get three Democrats to not vote tonight, you're down
00:40:00.080 to 431, because there's 434 right now.
00:40:03.460 You're down to 431.
00:40:05.500 You only need 216 votes.
00:40:07.940 And so I think that's the plight.
00:40:10.740 They're going to have three Democrats who, I mean, just imagine what Kevin McCarthy had
00:40:15.320 to, what kind of a deal he had to cut with Hakeem Jeffries and House Democrats to get
00:40:21.300 three Democrats to stay home tonight so he can get his 216 votes.
00:40:26.020 He doesn't need these six Republicans anymore, and he can become the House Speaker.
00:40:31.940 John Fredericks, is that your line of thinking, sir?
00:40:37.200 Well, exactly.
00:40:38.420 I mean, obviously, he cut a deal with Hakeem Jeffries.
00:40:41.660 Again, what they're going to do is simply not show up.
00:40:44.180 So they're going to vacate to lower his number.
00:40:47.820 Andy Biggs told us that was his strategy at 7 a.m. on Monday.
00:40:51.980 This has always been the plan.
00:40:53.580 He says, oh, he hasn't met with Hakeem Jeffries.
00:40:55.960 You don't know what these guys are doing behind closed doors.
00:40:58.420 So Hakeem gives them the wink, four or five, however many they need will not show up.
00:41:04.020 So they don't have to go on record and saying, hey, we voted for the Republican or we voted
00:41:07.460 for McCarthy.
00:41:08.240 No, all they have to do is leave.
00:41:09.860 This is why it's done at midnight.
00:41:11.720 Why hasn't it done it?
00:41:12.600 Why wasn't it done right now, live at five o'clock?
00:41:16.080 Why are they waiting until 10?
00:41:18.060 Right.
00:41:18.340 So you don't get to vote till midnight where no one's there.
00:41:21.160 And then you wake up and he's speaker.
00:41:22.640 And then the whole thing changes.
00:41:24.700 The swap in action is what you're seeing.
00:41:28.480 And my point is this.
00:41:30.960 If you don't trust the guy that's signing your documents and there's no apparatus to get
00:41:38.420 him to implement anything, what is the point of this?
00:41:41.760 What was the point of this whole week?
00:41:43.480 If we're just going to cave, this is the swap in action.
00:41:47.320 And I tell you, you guys have no idea what the backlash is going to be.
00:41:51.220 You know it, Mike David, those people out there, you have no idea how this base of ours,
00:41:57.280 our populist movement, Steve, is riled up.
00:42:00.160 You're able to see it on your own chat every day.
00:42:02.660 People are fired up.
00:42:03.700 They got sold out.
00:42:04.940 They're about to get sold out again.
00:42:06.500 But look, we got six people voting no.
00:42:09.600 Let's see what happens.
00:42:10.460 Okay, hang on for a second.
00:42:12.380 We're going to take a short commercial break.
00:42:13.660 I've got Mike Davis and John Fredericks.
00:42:15.780 One more short, tight, intense segment.
00:42:19.980 Stick around.
00:42:20.820 We'll be back in a moment.
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00:44:54.000 I've got Mike Davis and John Fertix.
00:44:55.840 Mike, what would be your recommendation?
00:44:58.040 You got hard six.
00:44:59.280 They're going to be playing games all night.
00:45:00.700 They're going to come back.
00:45:01.600 They're going to be hunted for sport now, right?
00:45:05.680 What would be your recommendation to these Patriots
00:45:07.620 that have toughed it out?
00:45:09.060 I would say hold the line.
00:45:11.000 Why do we need Kevin McCarthy as speaker, right?
00:45:14.020 If he's going to be this constrained,
00:45:16.880 let's say this negotiated rules package actually works,
00:45:21.280 which it won't, but let's say it does.
00:45:23.920 Why Kevin McCarthy?
00:45:25.240 What is the argument for Kevin McCarthy?
00:45:28.540 He's not conservative.
00:45:29.940 He doesn't have a conservative bone in his body.
00:45:32.040 His only guiding principle is Kevin McCarthy.
00:45:34.580 He does big tech's bidding.
00:45:36.720 He takes their money.
00:45:38.160 He does their bidding.
00:45:39.940 Jeff Miller, his top lobbyist,
00:45:41.460 takes millions of dollars from Apple and Amazon.
00:45:43.840 He's been in leadership.
00:45:45.080 Kevin McCarthy's been in leadership for, what,
00:45:46.580 13 years.
00:45:47.740 What has he accomplished?
00:45:48.720 What has he done?
00:45:49.540 I mean, it's just like,
00:45:50.680 it's like a war of attrition here.
00:45:52.260 He's the last man standing.
00:45:54.220 He thinks he should be speaker
00:45:56.360 because he's entitled to be speaker
00:45:58.140 because he wants to be speaker.
00:46:00.120 It just doesn't make sense.
00:46:02.060 Why do we not,
00:46:02.920 why can't we use this opportunity
00:46:04.580 when we actually,
00:46:06.440 this is the only,
00:46:07.520 this is the only house in D.C.
00:46:09.780 that Republicans control.
00:46:11.260 Democrats control the White House.
00:46:12.860 They control the Senate.
00:46:13.660 This is the opposition
00:46:14.800 to Biden and Democrats.
00:46:16.540 Why do we want Kevin McCarthy
00:46:18.680 as the head of our opposition?
00:46:20.100 Why,
00:46:20.400 why couldn't it go to someone else?
00:46:23.440 What would be your recommendation
00:46:24.540 to Scott Perry and those guys?
00:46:25.820 If they,
00:46:26.220 if the,
00:46:26.620 if this thing craps sideways,
00:46:27.900 what are they going to do?
00:46:28.460 It's going to be too late
00:46:29.080 after you vote for a guy.
00:46:29.960 We're going to put a motion.
00:46:31.260 They're going to jump back in
00:46:32.060 and put a motion to vacate in right away.
00:46:34.200 I mean,
00:46:34.760 the,
00:46:35.560 and I admire Chip Roy
00:46:36.820 and what these guys have accomplished,
00:46:38.200 but it's not a deal yet.
00:46:39.680 That's the difference.
00:46:40.420 It's not a deal yet.
00:46:41.720 You're,
00:46:41.940 you're in the process of making a deal.
00:46:43.920 You don't give up your leverage
00:46:45.880 until you have the deal.
00:46:47.280 And you're going to see this
00:46:48.020 in the debt ceiling.
00:46:48.660 This is why we get so many
00:46:49.740 tough negotiations coming up
00:46:51.180 on the debt ceiling,
00:46:52.360 on the appropriations package.
00:46:53.760 I noticed also,
00:46:55.020 Mike,
00:46:55.260 before I let you go,
00:46:56.340 that in,
00:46:56.940 in all the verticals
00:46:57.860 and everything they talked about,
00:46:59.300 the,
00:46:59.820 the,
00:47:00.380 the taking apart
00:47:01.400 of the big tech oligarchs
00:47:02.940 was missing there.
00:47:03.760 Did I miss something?
00:47:04.580 Did I not,
00:47:05.200 did I not read it right?
00:47:06.260 I kind of sped read
00:47:07.240 through all the different things.
00:47:08.320 Did I miss that part?
00:47:09.240 Was that in there?
00:47:10.480 No.
00:47:10.720 And that's exactly why
00:47:11.760 I've been a,
00:47:12.340 the biggest pain
00:47:13.440 in Kevin McCarthy's butt
00:47:15.520 because he is big tech's,
00:47:17.960 he is big tech's biggest champion
00:47:19.640 in the house.
00:47:21.040 He is,
00:47:21.440 Kevin McCarthy's number one,
00:47:24.220 Jim Jordan's number two.
00:47:25.320 And if Kevin McCarthy
00:47:26.260 is the speaker of the house,
00:47:27.900 you can kiss goodbye
00:47:29.140 any chance to hold
00:47:30.420 big tech accountable
00:47:31.300 they are going to censor,
00:47:33.300 silence,
00:47:33.840 de-platform,
00:47:34.580 cancel.
00:47:35.060 They're,
00:47:35.260 they may do what to Twitter,
00:47:37.240 what Google,
00:47:38.100 Apple,
00:47:38.860 and Amazon,
00:47:39.660 Google,
00:47:40.160 Apple,
00:47:40.360 and Amazon did to Parler,
00:47:41.340 which is kick it out
00:47:41.980 of the app store duopoly
00:47:42.860 for not doing enough censorship
00:47:44.680 and then kick it off the internet.
00:47:45.940 This is a very,
00:47:47.320 very bad move
00:47:48.960 for house Republicans
00:47:49.920 and big tech
00:47:50.900 is probably my biggest concern.
00:47:53.500 Mike,
00:47:53.960 how do people get to you?
00:47:55.000 You coming in a little hot
00:47:56.300 on,
00:47:56.740 on Twitter,
00:47:57.760 you come in pretty hot
00:47:58.700 on Getter.
00:47:59.240 How do people get to you?
00:48:00.020 It's article3project.org,
00:48:02.560 article3project.org,
00:48:04.800 at article3project,
00:48:06.540 at article3project,
00:48:08.900 and my personal is
00:48:10.020 MRDDMIA,
00:48:11.740 at MRDDMIA,
00:48:13.260 and they can,
00:48:13.820 Kevin McCarthy
00:48:14.400 can mail his invitation
00:48:16.140 to my Twitter account.
00:48:17.280 Thank you, sir.
00:48:19.500 Appreciate it, Mike Davis.
00:48:21.320 John Fredericks,
00:48:22.100 your recommendation
00:48:22.620 to the hard six tonight.
00:48:24.500 You've got Eli Crane
00:48:25.280 just came up and said,
00:48:26.040 hey,
00:48:26.340 I talked to my constituents.
00:48:27.640 I have their back.
00:48:28.560 They have mine.
00:48:29.620 I'm a no.
00:48:30.120 You heard Rosendale.
00:48:31.460 What is your,
00:48:31.860 what is your,
00:48:32.440 what is your recommendation?
00:48:34.420 How we go forward?
00:48:37.020 Vote no.
00:48:37.880 Let the Democrats elect them.
00:48:40.000 Simple as that.
00:48:41.220 He will never live down
00:48:42.500 for this,
00:48:43.460 whatever term he's got
00:48:44.860 a speaker if he's successful tonight
00:48:46.820 in the dark of night
00:48:48.300 when the cockroaches come out.
00:48:50.340 He will always be remembered
00:48:51.580 as a Republican speaker
00:48:52.840 that got elected
00:48:54.160 because Democrats vacated.
00:48:56.520 He will always be the guy
00:48:58.740 that got elected
00:48:59.540 by the Democrats.
00:49:00.580 And then as soon
00:49:01.600 as everything falls apart
00:49:03.260 and he does nothing,
00:49:05.140 right,
00:49:05.400 he's going to go to the Democrats
00:49:06.620 and he's going to get
00:49:07.820 hundreds of votes from them
00:49:09.120 to get past
00:49:10.120 whatever spending bill they want.
00:49:11.760 You know what's going to happen
00:49:12.640 in September.
00:49:14.060 There's going to be
00:49:14.460 another continuing resolution
00:49:15.740 going to kick the can
00:49:16.520 down the road.
00:49:17.380 There's going to be
00:49:17.800 another omnibus bill.
00:49:19.260 He's got enough Democrats
00:49:20.340 to go with him.
00:49:21.140 There's going to be no change.
00:49:22.640 All this happy talk about,
00:49:24.300 oh, we got this historic bill done.
00:49:25.980 There's going to be rules changes.
00:49:27.400 There's not a damn thing
00:49:28.620 that's going to change in there
00:49:29.620 if this guy wins
00:49:31.020 because he's done nothing
00:49:32.840 for 14 years
00:49:34.320 but collaborate
00:49:35.320 with the communists,
00:49:37.000 the Quislings,
00:49:37.640 and the Democrats.
00:49:38.460 All of a sudden,
00:49:39.320 he's going to like
00:49:39.820 stand up for something.
00:49:41.040 What he found,
00:49:42.180 religion today at four o'clock.
00:49:44.020 You've got to be kidding me.
00:49:45.680 This has got to be
00:49:46.400 the worst deal
00:49:47.520 that I've ever seen.
00:49:48.960 But you know why
00:49:49.880 he stayed in, Steve?
00:49:51.020 You know why he went
00:49:51.980 through the humiliation
00:49:53.260 of 13 votes?
00:49:55.240 Because he knew
00:49:56.320 they caved.
00:49:57.480 You know why?
00:49:58.440 Because that's all
00:49:59.080 we do is cave.
00:49:59.980 So once again,
00:50:00.940 we caved again
00:50:01.800 just like we've done
00:50:03.160 for the last two decades.
00:50:05.040 The end of the day,
00:50:06.300 we caved.
00:50:06.980 And he just said,
00:50:07.740 you know what?
00:50:08.540 If I can get Fox News,
00:50:10.140 the Washington Examiner,
00:50:11.300 all the fake conservative
00:50:13.580 angst,
00:50:14.260 if I can just get him
00:50:14.920 to put enough pressure,
00:50:16.460 if I can get enough
00:50:16.920 phone calls made,
00:50:18.080 if I can ambush
00:50:19.280 them on Hannity,
00:50:20.500 you know,
00:50:20.740 I can wear them down.
00:50:22.420 They're not going
00:50:23.280 to want the heat.
00:50:24.560 They're going to cave
00:50:25.500 and I'll get to be speaker.
00:50:27.980 But then my stopgap plan
00:50:29.600 is go to Hakeem
00:50:31.180 in the bathroom,
00:50:32.860 cut a deal with him,
00:50:34.120 do it at midnight,
00:50:35.360 get six or seven.
00:50:36.860 Democrats say
00:50:37.560 they have to leave,
00:50:38.700 throw their hands up.
00:50:39.880 That's the plan.
00:50:40.840 It's despicable.
00:50:42.900 By the way,
00:50:43.520 I think the donor pressure,
00:50:44.740 some of the institutional pressure
00:50:45.920 on these 14
00:50:47.240 was incredible.
00:50:48.320 And they told him,
00:50:48.800 hey,
00:50:48.860 if you don't do this,
00:50:49.520 you're gone.
00:50:50.260 So I think you're
00:50:51.140 absolutely correct.
00:50:51.760 And by the way,
00:50:52.460 for a guy you don't trust
00:50:53.380 and you're making a deal
00:50:54.540 that he's hermetically sealed,
00:50:57.460 why do you walk away
00:50:58.620 from the leverage you got
00:50:59.480 until you've actually
00:51:00.600 got the deal?
00:51:01.260 That is their story deal.
00:51:02.160 John Fredericks,
00:51:03.120 you are on fire.
00:51:03.940 You're lit, brother.
00:51:04.920 How do people follow you?
00:51:05.980 Where do they go?
00:51:08.480 At JF Radio.
00:51:09.400 It's so simple.
00:51:10.780 I got one handle,
00:51:12.040 all the platforms,
00:51:13.220 at JF Radio Show.
00:51:14.980 Let's just get off
00:51:15.800 politics for a second.
00:51:17.460 My Titans are playing tomorrow
00:51:18.820 in Jacksonville.
00:51:20.780 Win or go home.
00:51:22.040 Baby,
00:51:22.420 win or play golf.
00:51:23.900 7-15.
00:51:25.460 Titans are going to win 0.86
00:51:26.180 this game tomorrow.
00:51:27.320 Get a home
00:51:27.840 playoff game, Steve.
00:51:29.340 I can feel it in my bones.
00:51:31.220 Real quickly,
00:51:32.040 what time is your
00:51:32.520 six and a half?
00:51:33.840 What time is your
00:51:34.460 sports book show?
00:51:35.280 When does that come on?
00:51:36.040 What time tomorrow morning?
00:51:37.820 830 a.m. tomorrow.
00:51:39.100 You don't want to miss that.
00:51:40.020 We're going to be fired up
00:51:40.940 830 to 10
00:51:41.800 on the John Fredericks
00:51:42.920 Radio Network.
00:51:43.740 Hey, I'm going to soon
00:51:44.560 get RAV.
00:51:45.360 I'm going to talk
00:51:45.940 Rob Sieg into
00:51:46.980 picking up
00:51:47.420 because it's hot.
00:51:48.540 Steve Bannon,
00:51:49.160 always good to have you.
00:51:50.660 You're our leader,
00:51:51.540 Steve.
00:51:52.200 You're our leader
00:51:52.980 and I want to thank you
00:51:54.620 for what you do.
00:51:56.600 You're our leader, Steve.
00:51:57.940 I'm just another
00:51:58.720 Schmendrick.
00:51:59.900 Fredericks,
00:52:00.280 let's get that
00:52:00.740 sports book right.
00:52:02.020 You never know
00:52:02.480 when you're going to need it.
00:52:03.400 You never know
00:52:03.920 when you need an anchor
00:52:04.620 to windward there, brother.
00:52:06.160 Thank you so much.
00:52:07.680 You've been great.
00:52:08.700 Okay, we've got
00:52:09.580 another hour of this.
00:52:10.460 We're going to go.
00:52:11.080 Actually, Pedro Gonzalez
00:52:12.480 is going to join us.
00:52:13.420 Darren Beattie's going to join us.
00:52:15.100 Maybe track down
00:52:15.940 a couple of three
00:52:16.580 of these congressmen
00:52:17.220 before the 10 o'clock.
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