Episode 2438: Stopping The Ridiculous Spending Of Congress
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In this episode of The War Room, we honor the life and legacy of the original House of Representatives speakers, the 21 patriots who stood strong in the face of overwhelming opposition from the powerful lobby core, and drove the necessary changes in the structure of the House to return power to the people.
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this is the primal scream of a dying regime pray for our enemies because we're going medieval on
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these people because i got a free shot all these networks lying about the people the people had a
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belly full of it i know you don't like doing that i know you've tried to do everything in the world
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to stop that but you're not going to stop it it's going to happen and where do people like that go
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to share the big line mega media i wish in my soul i wish that any of these people had a conscience
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ask yourself what is my task and what is my purpose if that answer is to save my country
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this country will be saved war here's your host stephen k back
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selflessness selflessness is not selling shares of yourself to the lobby core and then doing their
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but there certainly is intent and it's an intent driven almost exclusively by personal ambition
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and that ambition is paralyzing the house now madam clerk at this time there is great trust in mr
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welcome back to the war room congressman matt gates here in the captain's chair while stephen k
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bannon is out on assignment joined by natalie winters and we are going to have a whole lot of congress
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here joining us got andy biggs in a few moments congresswoman anna paulina luna and george santos will
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be joining us at the end of the show to respond to the growing calls from members of his delegation
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and folks in his state that he stepped down from congress we'll see what he has to say in response
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that was the action you just saw from the floor of the house of representatives and what you didn't see
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from the wide camera angle is that as i was talking about the lobby core and the special interests
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and the extent to which they drive the action and control the elected representatives my own
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colleagues in the republican party were walking off the floor keep that in mind when you tell the
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truth when you expose the influences in this town that work against the american people they can't even
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stand to hear it sometimes but i am optimistic as i am here that we are going to be able to drive
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the needed changes with transformational reorientation of the house of representatives
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taking that power away from leadership away from the special interests and returning it to the people
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one of my dearest friends phil nikosis is a member of the war room posse and he says the reason
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he watches war room every day every episode is because this is where you learn the trade craft
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for politics that can alter outcomes in a place where they want everything scripted they want everything
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controlled and i want to thank personally the war room posse for being in this fight with me with
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the 21 patriots who stood strong who demanded a house of representatives that wasn't going to advance
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the imperial speakership nancy pelosi is the last of the imperial speakers we saw paul ryan and john
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boehner and pelosi do everything they could to take the power of representation away from the members
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so that they could go in the back rooms make all the deals with their donors and those who are paid
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to influence the legislative process that is not going to happen anymore joining me for our first
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segment is russ vote russ served very very well as the omb director for president trump and now
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driving a lot of the strategy for the conservative movement russ you provided air cover for us here on
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the war room and on other networks you provided strategic advice to me to other members
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how would you assess where we are and how the 118th congress kicked off yeah it's an enormous
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success and i want to thank you for all the work that you put into it the 20 really became heroes in
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the minds of the american people as a result of what you were able to gain and you know that i don't
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like to characterize things any way that is other than the truth and so when i say that this is a
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historic transformational agreement in how the house of representatives operates i mean it that i don't
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think you've seen something like this since 60 years ago when sam rayburn took power and put it
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into the speakership away from the rules committee that really used to be an independent committee like
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any any any other committee and so for you all to almost establish coalition government to make sure
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the american people are represented by the 20 away from the special interest away from the cartel
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you dealt a body blow to it it still exists in the senate it still exists in the administrative state
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but in the house of representatives the american people now have a fighting chance particularly in
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the rules committee and then all of the many spending reforms that you negotiated what does
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steve talk about it's money and power you had major agreements on those two issues in what you guys
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accomplished they robbed the banks because that's where the money is and we wanted control of the
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appropriations committee because that's where you see a lot of the driving financial decisions
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um that often bankrupt the country where you get different people wanting to spend money on
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different things and so at the end of the day we just do all of it and that is one of the driving
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forces of inflation i mean if we have any mandate as a consequence of this last election it is to push
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back against government spending induced inflation and so people need to realize these changes we made
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this display that we put forward on the floor is not an end unto itself what we did was we built out
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a toolkit and what i want to talk to you is about how to use those tools so that we actually get to
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the results so so don't think that the battle is won we are still in it let's start with the homin rule
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yeah talk about what it means for any member of congress to be able to get up and defund a particular
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bureaucrat it's huge and so you know i come from the executive agency before uh this role and we would
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have all of these career bureaucrats that we would be having to work with and the american people would
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largely not know their names until covet happened and now everyone knows who tony fauci is but think
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about the ability to go to the house floor and have a debate about a particular bureaucrat that is enormous
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it changes the entire game right now i would have situations where uh our staff would do anything
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they possibly could not to necessarily give me what i needed because they were aware they were worried
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about their own ability to stay anonymous the homin rule makes sure that those career bureaucrats are no
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longer anonymous and that they are put in the crosshairs and the extent to the same extent in the arena
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that you are that i am and so that is a game changer in having the appropriations debate also not just
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what the message it sends but the extent to which it itself focuses the appropriations process on the
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deep state on the administrative state that exists that is now woke and it's weaponized and that has to be
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the biggest fiscal priority that we have to go after the woke and weaponized bureaucracy russ if we'd have
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had this tool we would have obviously directed it at anthony fauci right so if you're comparing and
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contrasting you we would have had the ability if we had the rules that we now have in place if we'd
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have had those in place in the last congress you could actually force a vote on funding fauci or not
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funding fauci as we look at a weaponized system across the apparatus of government give us some examples
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or advice for who are some of the bureaucrats that enjoy their anonymity now what are some of the
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agencies we should look at to target and take this tool out of the toolkit and actually put it to use
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well there's all sorts of the types of people that you'd want to get in with labor hhs and the
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covid fascism that we've saw as a result of kind of a lockdown era policies but we're going to want to
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use this in department of justice we're going to want to find those people that participated
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in the russia hoax that participate in going to fisa and lying to get warrants that are cooked up
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against the american people so as you bring that aspect of what you negotiate along with the church
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style committee that will sit within judiciary those are the kinds of things that you can say
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in real time that makes this enforcing if the battle is certainly not over we got to show up at
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every stage but it is self-enforcing you enforce it the 20 enforce it and that was what makes this
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different than anything else that we've seen in recent memory because not only is your vote of
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no confidence in real speak your motion to vacate present but you also have the rules committee that
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is is enforcing this on a bill by bill basis so it's enormously successful and you've got a lot of
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potential to use it against that that bureaucrat that you'd identify that's standing in your way
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at nasa or the epa who's the epa bureaucrat that put joe robertson 77 year old navy veteran in jail
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for building four ponds on his ranch to be able to fight wildfires that's the person we want to use
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the holman rule on and i think it will have a deterrent effect against some of these overreaches
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in bureaucracy see these bureaucrats knew that they never had to stand before the voters they never had
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to have their individual budgets their individual salaries up for a vote but now we can take that
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out and use it we're also going to get individual assessment of appropriations bills and you know for
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all of the mainstream media talk about how we've weakened mccarthy we've weakened the speakership he
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was the one republican leader and we weakened him that is nonsense we have made mccarthy stronger in
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being able to negotiate against chuck schumer and joe biden because if they want to send some
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omnibus spending bill our rules will not permit us to take that up and so that gives us strength to
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be able to say no we have to individually look at the hhs budget the department of education budget
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the department of justice budget what does that mean as a guy who understands the federal budget as good
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as anyone yeah it gives the house the ability to figure out how much something costs what is in it
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the cartel often doesn't even know themselves what is in the bills that they're jamming through
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because they only represent pieces of it so this spreads it out it slows it down when you're up
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against a big enemy a big adversary what do you want to do you want to slow it down you know what do
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you want to do when you're up against you know uh duke basketball you know you want to slow the court
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down doing that on the appropriations process will allow you to figure out how bad this is and then
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you've given us a fighting chance on the outside to give you the air cover to be able to make sure
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that we're not spending on ridiculous earmarks across the country no it's a key point that the
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way the worst things happen in this town is by using the calendar to jam people and to not get a
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review of where they're spending this money i mean look at this last 1.7 trillion dollar omnibus bill
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they're funding every lgbtq concept they could think of they're actually funding their own political
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apparatus if you think about it because a lot of these different entities are not engaged in public
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do-gooding they're engaged in political work and now taxpayer money is going to be used to that end
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and so this gives us the tool to be able to fight back against it um it's also not an end unto itself
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this sense of teamwork we've created among committed conservatives and you spoke a lot about how a slim
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majority actually empowers conservatives to band together and force change we're excited about that
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not everyone is take a listen to maggie haberman on abc lamenting the great horrors of the new gates
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group play the clip and maggie and we heard speaker mccarthy right there say that donald trump deserves a
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lot of credit uh does he i don't know about a lot um you know considering that he had endorsed mccarthy
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and early in the week made a public push for him that he hadn't wanted to make he had to do it because
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he gave some mealy mouth comment to an nbc reporter uh and that didn't do anything but he he did matter
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at the end and in that very final uh motion to adjourn right before they voted in mccarthy he did
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make calls to people like matt gates and he did have some influence there that's a problem for kevin
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mccarthy is that it's not just scott perry and the house freedom caucus it's this matt gates group and
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matt gates kept his folks together and he is now in a pretty strong position with mccarthy
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keeping our folks together having a singular point of focus um what are the fights you see coming
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forward whether it's the debt limit or other matters where the assembly of this team is gonna
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is gonna need to be put out on the battlefield yeah there's all of these budget fights are going to
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be very very early on in the new year and so it's going to be the budget it's going to be the debt
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limit but the appropriations committee is going to make moves at very very soon in in their attempt
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to unravel this and it's going to be incumbent on the 20 who now have new power coalitional style
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government to be able to step into that new day and realize that anything that happened before this
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power share agreement is old history new history is such that we make determinations based on the
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decisions of the american people it is not hey you're going to vote for someone a bill just because
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it's in your committee no is it good for the 20 and is it good for the american people and if you guys
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have that approach to everything that you do it will be a new day in the congress but it's one of those
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things where you you just negotiated and secured this historic thing and now everyone needs to kind of
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manifest it by how they act in decisions that they make to say no i'm not i'm not going along with
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that that's the old day of thinking we're going to think about how it looks like today all right
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natalie winters are you ready to keep the investigative reporting going so we know exactly who to defund and
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exactly where all the swamp monsters are buried having some audio difficulties but of course as always
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that's my forte i love digging into all the ways that the chinese communist party uh has gotten its
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scary scary claws and greedy talons into the city that is washington dc
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well we absolutely have to use these tools i think it's going to be critically important and
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the rules committee used to always be like the inner sanctum now it is going to be an asset of the
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conservatives to enforce all of this russ vote was given the air cover he was given the strategic advice
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the man knows the budget we know the rules and now we're going to use the leverage and power we have
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to change this place and send a shockwave to the dc cartel thanks for joining us russ we'll be right
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steven k bannon is on assignment i'm congressman matt gates here with natalie winters and joining us now
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congressman andy biggs there's over 10 000 people who've served in the united states congress during
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our nation's history but far fewer who have ever received a vote for speaker of the house i was proud
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to vote for andy biggs on the first ballot as were many of our colleagues now we're in a position with
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real leverage real authority and we've done something for the institution undeniably that
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will outlive our time outlive kevin mccarthy's speakership and i i was so honored to be in that
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fight with you we know the fight coming is on the border and few in congress have worked as hard to
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try to educate members about the dynamic there the morale that has been zapped of the border patrol
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the cartel network that has become fused with the mexican government and we finally saw joe biden take
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his first trip to the border i think it is an entire time in public life your reaction to the president's
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trip well what what a farce i mean he managed to squeeze in three or four hours on the border after
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they cleaned it up he has he has no knowledge of what goes on because he didn't get any knowledge
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i lay this at mayorka's feet homeland security secretary mayorka's feet because he got it all
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cleaned up he didn't see the hole in the fence in el paso where you got venezuelans pouring through
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um living on the streets of el paso because they moved him out um he didn't he didn't see yuma you've
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been with me to yuma you've been on the border um i mean that you have people now yuma has so many
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people that that cbp is having to release them they can't even get them to the ngo's and move them
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into our country they're releasing them into the town the city of yuma which is about 80 000 90 000
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people tens of thousands coming over in massive waves right now there's hope among people in the
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country with with republican control the house of representatives we will be able to utilize some of
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these tools but make a prediction for me congressman biggs two years from now will we see that from this
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point the the illegal immigration trajectory going up or going down it's i'm going to give you two
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factors that weigh into to my prediction number one is that um mayorkas and biden now recognize they
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have a problem on their hands politically and so they're going to try to reimplement the safe first
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country that will be helpful for us in reducing it but at the same time you've got the republicans
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in the senate talking about amnesty and that will instead incentivize so i think you're going to have a
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net positive um so where you're sitting at 12 13 000 people a day being encountered and coming across
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and another 5 000 at least um uh you know i got a ways you're going to see that increase to by two
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by two to three thousand people so don't believe that just because republicans got control of the
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house of representatives we have some magic elixir that is going to turn the tide on this you've just
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heard congressman biggs say we're actually going to see more illegal immigration going forward likely
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not less this will upset the war room posse what we're about to tell you but if you take a universe
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of all republicans in the house of representatives and in the senate a majority of those people believe
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that the right immigration policy is to trade some feature of amnesty for some feature of border
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security and their definition of a good deal is to trade as little amnesty as we have to for as much
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border security as we can get why is that the wrong approach well because a historical uh data tells us
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that anytime that congress even mentions the word amnesty you have an immediate surge at the borders
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that's number one number two historically we have always done that and we've never gotten the border
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security it's like betting on the come again you know we're okay yeah we're going to go ahead and give
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you amnesty and we're going to trust that you're going to give us border security and it's never
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happened third thing is the cartel controls the border now and uh you know it it won't matter what
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if you say okay we're going to add some some footage to the fence um because we're still going to be so
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overwhelmed that our poor agents they're just going to be used as the you know the the logistics arm of
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the cartel they're just going to be transporting them to a center and let them go the other thing
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too is is this administration is now proposed a believe it or not an app where you can where these
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people can come and they don't even have to be processed anymore they don't have to get a return
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to appear they're going to be able to put it into an app and by the way everybody coming across our
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border has a smartphone they do well you've been with me they're they're they're facetiming back home
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hey i made it across they're going to have an app so they can just put in and say i'm here and uh so
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you start trading amnesty the incentives will still be there for any amnesty any amnesty you wouldn't
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trade the most thorough exquisite border security internal enforcement regime for daca would you no i
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wouldn't all right well uh we've said this is a show about tradecraft about how we have to manage
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the power we have how to marshal it effectively let me throw out a scenario for you the discharge
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petition this gets a little wonky but i think the war room audience can hang with me yeah the rules
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of the house say that if 218 people sign a petition to discharge a piece of legislation from the committee
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process it does not pass go it does not collect two hundred dollars it goes straight to the floor of
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the house of representatives i predict the 212 213 democrats will sign a discharge petition for a
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clean daca bill with no border security and that five or six or ten liberal republicans might join
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with them so that the work we do in the judiciary committee is diminished how would we stop that
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well the first thing is i i you would count on kevin mccarthy to to stop it but he's not going to
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why do i know he's not going to because we already have a member of our of our leadership team that
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supports uh not just daca amnesty but the the the deal devil uh deal with the devil that you're
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talking about so that that's number one wait who is that member of leadership who supports a clean daca
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uh i i won't i won't say clean daca he's he wants to trade amnesty that would be he wants to trade
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amnesty for for border security they don't even know what they want for border security so i've got my
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two bills that that actually are pretty comprehensive border security the only way you're going to be
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able to stop them i'm kind of surprised they didn't do it this week if you want the truth man
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i wow week one i thought they would do a week one i thought they'd do a week one natalie winters how
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will the war room posse feel if six republicans team up with all the democrats to do an end run
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around where most republicans out in the country are on daca
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deja vu uh it's you know swamp gonna swamp uh to say the least i'm not surprised i think immigration
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is one of the i would say most salient issues with the war room posse because it affects everyone
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and i think it's the issue that the ruling class loves to gaslight americans on the most they love
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to tell us that immigration illegal immigration is actually great for the country right shut up sit
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down and enjoy multiculturalism right forgetting for this unum uh diversity is our strength and of
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course daca right the poor dreamers right they love to really tug on those heartstrings but americans
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the war room posse know that illegal immigration is tanking this country all the way from depleting
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social services to depressing wages and it shouldn't be lost on anyone i think just a month ago the
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world economic forum put up an article that actually said that illegal immigration was the
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way that we could solve inflation immigration illegal immigration seems to be the catch-all that's
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always pushed by american elites by the american ruling class to fix any problem that we have when
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in reality the reverse is true our open border is the cause of so many of the economic woes that
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we're facing right now the national security threats that we're facing right now the fentanyl pouring
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over here that's that's of course tied to the chinese communist party so the war room
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posse uh will know all too well that it's just gaslighting like i said in the last block the
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reason that the biden regime wants to ban gas stoves is so they can have a monopoly on gaslighting but
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the war room posse is well informed as they are won't let it happen on the issue of immigration
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well and know that you have a say in this and do not allow a mystified process in washington
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to let some of these liberal republicans off the hook you need to be communicating with members of
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congress saying if you sign up to join the democrats on this procedural maneuver we know you are selling
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out we know you are doing an end run around the legislative process uh andy do you have other border
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trips planned where you're inviting members of congress down to observe uh these circumstances and
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how are the circumstances on the border changing what are the trend lines you're seeing
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so yeah we're going to take some more people down my uh you know kate my my chief she's actually
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already in the process of planning we'll see if anybody will come with us after last week you
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never know matt but um the situation is like this um first of all el paso is an interesting choice for
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biden because a year ago they were getting about 300 to 350 apprehensions a day those are encounters
00:25:34.760
people just coming and surrendering and now it's well over a thousand a day but i don't believe he
00:25:40.580
toured the soft side outside of el paso now you have to see the soft sides and you've seen them
00:25:46.100
with me when they've just been so packed they're worse than the when you and i were there they are
00:25:50.900
far worse and and and in yuma they just don't have enough room at all the other thing too is they
00:25:56.780
they're moving people they're letting agents go where they need to go uh for their home choice so
00:26:02.700
they can say well i want to go down to la jolla or whatever because i have family down by la jolla texas
00:26:07.140
well la jolla texas is being overrun and there's signs literally at the border when when they cross
00:26:13.040
the river they come across there's a sign that says go this way to see the border patrol and they'll go
00:26:18.280
to the border patrol and they just walk right and get processed and they're getting released
00:26:21.620
and so um we it's it's 12 000 people or so a day and in in tucson sector well over a thousand
00:26:30.360
gotaways every day these are the people who don't want to be talked these are these are the folks that
00:26:36.860
are probably terrorists they're dealing drugs they're they're they're criminal gang members uh
00:26:41.500
they're they're from high interest countries of high interest you know so they're so we don't know
00:26:45.660
what they're doing and we don't know where they're going um and it's it's pretty bad it's
00:26:51.740
number one so you and i are america first foreign policy we do not believe that our country
00:26:57.900
should be trying to build jeffersonian democracies out of sand and blood and arab
00:27:02.160
militias in the middle east and so we've sought reforms to prior authorizations to use military
00:27:07.120
force but what we see in the fusion of purpose between these cartels and the mexican government
00:27:12.440
should the united states of america authorize the use of military force against these mexican cartels
00:27:17.180
that are stronger than many countries in our hemisphere um we're we're getting pretty close to
00:27:22.640
that point think think what amlo just said when biden's down there he said you know don't you know
00:27:28.660
grant us he said grant amnesty to the 40 million mexicans that are in america this is from amlo the
00:27:35.100
president of mexico he thanked him don't put up a fence let us keep coming and uh they're using this
00:27:41.620
as an integral part of their their governments and their financing mexico is not blameless in this
00:27:48.060
they are joining in the problem and i think there needs to be accountability there andy biggs congressman
00:27:53.940
guy voted for for speaker thanks for joining us on the war room we'll be right back with
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but i want to clarify something real quick to my colleagues across the aisle
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what you're seeing with this this discussion does not mean that we are dysfunctional
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and in no way shape or form will a democrat ever hold the gavel to a republican controlled house
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these discussions and dialogues have actually been good for the american people and although the media
00:30:05.060
tries to pit us against each other i can tell you that it's been something that we need as a country
00:30:12.100
there are people that are frustrated with this process byron through this entire time has done
00:30:17.140
something that i think most leaders should do more of and that is listen respect people when they're
00:30:21.820
talking understand the needs of the american people be willing to take negotiations but also
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to to realize when is a proper time to stand your ground on certain things
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she is not a rising star she has arrived on paulina luna my favorite member of congress from the
00:30:41.660
sunshine state joins us by phone on that was a rousing speech that you gave on the floor and i want to
00:30:48.580
start with this question because there's been a lot of folks in the mainstream media saying oh
00:30:52.560
we've we've weakened the institution we've weakened speaker mccarthy as you assess it is the republican
00:30:59.440
majority stronger today than we were a week ago absolutely in fact you know for those who are
00:31:05.220
tuning in there's this room right off the floor it's called the cloak room and it's where sometimes
00:31:09.680
members will go either before votes or in between and we you know they have a little back room but the
00:31:14.460
point is is that you know when i was back there even right after our negotiations had leaked and what
00:31:20.080
was actually being talked about and what really has now become adopted by the republican party many of
00:31:26.060
our colleagues actually said you know i just want to let you know i really applaud you for what you
00:31:29.680
guys are doing and we actually really like where this is at and we appreciate it and good on you
00:31:34.460
so i think the media initially was trying to paint us as you know quote unquote terrorists and
00:31:39.580
extortionists but we're clearly not clearly our hearts are in it for the american people and ultimately
00:31:44.260
what you'll find is that when you come up here there is a certain type of way and system of how things
00:31:48.960
are run and people like myself and representative gates we don't agree with that system that it's
00:31:53.800
correct and so we have to bring change and i think we brought change this past week
00:31:57.100
on a one of the key demands that was not met prior to our efforts to really go through a
00:32:07.820
deliberative process was a demand for a vote on term limits we hear all over the country the american
00:32:13.540
people want term limits but we never seem to take a vote on it so establishment members can say one
00:32:20.460
thing and then they're never really held to account what do you think is the impact of forcing a vote
00:32:25.460
on term limits in the house of representatives i think it's really going to show the american people
00:32:30.280
constituents of some of these representatives that say you know they're going to washington to bring
00:32:34.140
change it's going to show them where their heart's really at you know i took a term limit pledge early
00:32:38.880
on and i am a firm believer and part of the reason why we see such a broken system and if you even just
00:32:43.320
want to take a look at the deficit currently you know people that have been up there sometimes for 10-20
00:32:48.120
years say that they're up there to serve the american people and yet we have this ballooning
00:32:52.240
debt nothing changes and so i'm a firm believer in that as you know matt serving in the florida house
00:32:58.020
we have we have term limits there and we have a good turnover and i think that that's in part why we have
00:33:02.600
such a good republican representation in the house in florida but i'm supportive of it and i can tell you
00:33:07.920
that people back home when they saw that that was actually something that now speaker mccarthy
00:33:13.720
actually agreed to some of these concessions they actually applauded it and they want to see
00:33:18.420
that so i'm excited to vote for it i'm definitely someone that signed on to representative norman's
00:33:22.840
bill and i hope that the american people can see exactly what we're fighting for
00:33:26.180
you heard it right there from a great florida woman on a paulina luna if we want to florida-fy the
00:33:35.840
country one great way to do that is to embrace term limits now what i noticed in the state of florida
00:33:40.540
when we got term limits our state legislature got a lot younger natalie winters right now we have the
00:33:47.260
third oldest congress in american history how do you assess a congress that is going to be voting
00:33:54.460
on decisions where a lot of the members won't even be around for the consequences of those votes
00:34:00.760
politician serves or spends time in washington dc the more likely they are to have been compromised
00:34:10.300
by all of these foreign elements and of course domestic elements too who certainly don't have
00:34:15.880
the future of americans my age even your age i know we're sort of close in age uh but at the top
00:34:22.100
of their mind and frankly when you're talking about chinese communist party compromise i think they have
00:34:27.220
the antithesis of the issues that are important um and really really really i mean existentially
00:34:33.180
important uh to young americans whether it's finances issues like covid vaccine mandates so term
00:34:39.100
limits are so important to prevent this i also think the world that we've inherited whether it's
00:34:44.540
social media the issues facing young people there's just a generational gap and when you see people i like
00:34:49.920
to call them ossified swamp creatures uh who look so old they should be nowhere near congress they've been
00:34:56.320
there for so long and the really scary ones are the ones who you don't know their names because that
00:35:01.520
means that they're just part of the dc permanent political class they just sort of are a rubber
00:35:06.460
stamp on all the policies that really are detrimental um to the success of this country uh it really is i
00:35:13.300
think a glaring case for why we need term limits but i will say the important thing to emphasize
00:35:17.420
when you have this mass exodus of i would say sort of the grifter lobby in congress right the people
00:35:23.420
who've sold out who really are america last at their core it's important that we have regulations
00:35:29.040
in place to make sure that these people don't leave congress and then end up as foreign lobbyists
00:35:35.460
for countries like ukraine like china or as more domestic lobbyists for big pharmaceutical companies
00:35:41.760
say pfizer moderna because that is really a tale as old as time right people who leave congress they join
00:35:47.940
congress with bad intentions in the first place just to get kind of connected into that revolving door pipeline
00:35:53.140
so we definitely need term limits but concurrently i think we need to be pursuing regulations and
00:35:58.900
restrictions on former members of congress who go and lobby on behalf of both private enterprises but
00:36:04.780
also foreign countries it's a great point term limits would make congress younger it would make
00:36:12.040
congress more dynamic and it would make congress less corrupt and if you have someone able to be here
00:36:18.740
for decades and decades and then those people get bought off well buying people off becomes
00:36:24.280
more amateurized over that extended period of time so if the chinese communist party foreign interests
00:36:31.100
abroad special interests at home want to actually bribe people and buy them off at least if we have term
00:36:36.640
limits they'll have to buy off a new crop every six or eight years and it'll make it far more
00:36:41.920
difficult and it'll make it more enticing for patriots to want to run for congress on a paulina luna
00:36:47.520
from the state of florida new member of congress but actually had to run for congress two times to get
00:36:53.540
here when you have run you have faced opposition from not only democrats but from the republican
00:37:00.180
establishment establishment republican super PACs came after on a paulina luna because they know she's a
00:37:07.160
veteran they know she's a fighter and they know she is entirely loyal to her constituents not the swamp
00:37:13.420
ana what does it mean that as part of this deal for speaker mccarthy we got some of these
00:37:19.180
establishment republican PACs to disarm themselves in these primaries where we want to get great
00:37:26.140
patriots like you into the united states congress oh that's a game changer you know uh to your credit
00:37:31.640
matt early on i think that you were actually one of the first member of congress to actually met with
00:37:36.480
me and then in my first race you were the only one that had endorsed me and you know in that race i was
00:37:41.700
outspent and then in this race i mean i was outspent 12 million dollars to 1 million dollars but the
00:37:46.180
point is is that when you are in some of these contested primaries and a lot of times the primaries
00:37:50.220
the most important time in the race right especially for some of these red seats because at that point
00:37:55.320
you're determining who the likely representative will be on the republican ticket um for myself and i'm
00:38:01.760
sure for many candidates across the country when you are a grassroots populist candidate you know
00:38:06.920
there's a certain money that i won't take i won't take money from pharmaceutical
00:38:10.020
um i'm very very very cautious about taking special certain special interest money and i think
00:38:16.700
to your credit i know you don't take any lobbying money but you know that's a separate conversation
00:38:20.480
and topic but you know these super PACs will come in and people just completely just just try to destroy
00:38:26.160
you and in my case they did exactly that but you know we had a really strong grassroots game
00:38:31.040
but i will say to you know candidates like joe ken and hopefully carolyn levitt i would love to see
00:38:35.440
i know joe ken i think announced that he's running again yesterday um i'm very excited about that
00:38:39.880
because i know he faced some fierce opposition from the party in his primary but you know the
00:38:44.500
fact that they're staying out i think makes it more of a level playing field for the voters to truly
00:38:49.500
decide who the best candidate is and one of the bigger issues that we have right now in our elections
00:38:54.980
is it becomes so expensive that it makes it nearly impossible for quote-unquote normal candidates and
00:39:00.720
normal people to actually run for office and that's not the way our system that our founding
00:39:05.080
fathers and the way this country could be and so i do believe that because of that it keeps some of
00:39:10.360
the best candidates away from politics and so i'm very excited that um that happened i think it was
00:39:16.220
way beyond due and i think that both you and i now will probably on the campaign trail for some
00:39:21.680
of these american first candidates this next election cycle
00:39:24.020
undeniably if the paradigm we have now negotiated going forward were governing in the last election
00:39:34.720
cycle joe kent would be a member of congress caroline levitt would be a member of congress and the
00:39:40.760
republican majority the size of the of the delta between us and the democrats would be 50 larger so
00:39:48.460
it's very significant and it's very significant that congress will be more attractive as a career
00:39:54.860
opportunity for people like anna paulina luna like joe kent like caroline levitt anna what do you
00:40:01.800
think the principal critique is of your constituents when they are concerned about congress i mean right
00:40:07.300
now congress has like a nine percent approval rating moammar qaddafi had a 13 percent approval rating
00:40:12.500
and his own people dragged him in the streets and killed him so so what is it that the folks in florida
00:40:16.920
you serve want to see change about this place you know the biggest um critique they have and really
00:40:23.300
i think had until the 20 of us kind of stood up there and did our thing is that they don't trust
00:40:28.660
elected representatives they don't trust congress and i think that they saw that really play out on
00:40:33.040
the national scene because initially the even some people that we thought were on our side of course not
00:40:38.340
not the war room posse but you know some of the mainstream other outlets that were quote unquote
00:40:42.540
conservatives you know were hitting us saying that we were causing all this chaos and they had
00:40:47.300
no idea what we were doing and i think that what we did you know as a it showed the country that change
00:40:54.140
can happen that you know there are still people that are fighting for the interests of the american
00:40:59.080
people for the constitution and to really stop some of the corruption that was staying out of
00:41:03.380
washington but i think that this is just one of many things that has to continue to happen and i want
00:41:09.060
to be really clear about something for what we've done i really do believe that it's going to help
00:41:14.580
set the stage for 2024 and i do believe that some of what we're seeing now will be around far after
00:41:21.760
both you and i leave office matt and so for me especially when it came time for for that vote i mean
00:41:27.860
i think we both realized what was on the table and you know it's going to take a lot more but i don't
00:41:33.940
want to tell everyone that this country is not beyond saving because i think there's some really great
00:41:37.860
patriots up here but um yeah i think people just have lost trust in the process and and we hope
00:41:43.480
to bring some of that back and i can tell you that many people now that they know what we did
00:41:47.280
especially back home in pinellas county i've gotten thank yous i mean when i was traveling home
00:41:52.560
and traveling here to washington from home people were stopping me in the airport and saying thank you
00:41:57.540
so that goes a long way so natalie we heard anna talk about the influence of big pharma how that has
00:42:05.860
become supercharged and you've done a lot of reporting on how compromised elements of big
00:42:11.600
pharma are and you look at that compromise and then how it manifests in our congressional activity
00:42:17.480
they want to be in charge and one of the things that we did not have a concession on at the beginning
00:42:22.300
of last week but we now have a guarantee from mccarthy on is a vote to get rid of the national
00:42:28.400
emergency and i think that will in in a lot of ways just peel back the layers of the onion on
00:42:34.540
what all big pharma has done to scare us what's your assessment of a vote upcoming getting rid of
00:42:41.060
the national emergency and taking the power away from big pharma we got about a minute you're making
00:42:46.520
big pharma lobbyists very mad and they've increased their lobbying representation recently post-covid by
00:42:53.440
hundreds of percents you're talking dozens of people millions of dollars have been spent
00:42:58.140
so i hope we can repeal it i hope we can make these lobbyists mad i don't know if kevin mccarthy
00:43:03.700
is the person to do it but with fighters like you i think we can get it done
00:43:07.160
and fighters like anna paulina luna anna how can folks follow you real quick
00:43:12.460
yeah head over to my personal social media at real anna paulina if you want to see what i'm doing
00:43:17.640
in congress at rep luna all right thanks so much for joining us anna we'll be back
00:43:28.200
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so i join with you and i join with my colleagues in saying that george santos does not have the ability
00:45:17.820
to serve here in the house of representatives and should resign
00:45:25.740
we're back in the war room i'm congressman matt gates stephen k bannon is on assignment
00:45:30.020
one thing i know about this town they come for the fighters and they are coming for george santos like
00:45:35.780
nothing i've seen in quite some time i could ask you what it's like to be an embattled congressman but
00:45:40.960
i kind of know a little bit about that scene george you've heard just there congressman
00:45:46.140
de esposito your republican colleague calling for you to resign nick langworthy also has your reaction
00:45:52.380
you know matt it's it's your prerogative i i came here to serve the people not politicians and party
00:45:58.400
leaders and uh and i'm going to do just that and i've been doing just that throughout this entire
00:46:01.880
first two weeks whether it was voting for the speaker or whether it's been the last week where
00:46:06.360
we've been working on legislation in my office so you know i wish well all of their opinions but i
00:46:11.320
was elected by 142 000 people until those same 142 000 people tell me they don't want me uh we'll find
00:46:17.340
out in two years what are those 142 000 people deserve in a representative they deserve somebody
00:46:22.120
who's going to come here and fight and not get involved with the media nonsense that we're seeing
00:46:25.440
take place right look a lot of people are saying that i am unable to govern i'm unable to deliver
00:46:31.220
but in the meantime my office and my staff uh we've been able to jump on co-sponsoring
00:46:35.820
legislation such as term limits which you spoke about earlier you know there's not a lot of people
00:46:40.080
running to jump on this specifically the ones criticizing me they want to stay here forever
00:46:43.840
i don't want to stay here forever i want to come here do the best i can with the time i have
00:46:48.600
and deliver for the american people and that's going to be through fighting crime inflation and whatnot
00:46:52.940
that's what they elected me to do and that's what i'm going to give them
00:46:55.800
you have admitted embellishing your resume you've acknowledged it you've apologized for it
00:47:02.620
uh some have said that you shouldn't be seated on committees for it i would offer that if we
00:47:07.540
didn't seat people on committees who embellish their resume running for congress we probably
00:47:11.640
wouldn't be able to make a quorum in any of those committees uh do you do you uh now have a sense of
00:47:18.700
the committees you want to serve on the type of work you want to do i came to dc without really any
00:47:23.760
preconceived notions of what committees to serve but whether what i can give to the american people
00:47:28.400
whatever committee i'm given whether it's i don't know science and technology or education and labor
00:47:33.280
or whatever committee is thrown my way i will deliver 110 because that's what i know how to do
00:47:38.980
i'm going to outwork any of the pundits and talking heads that are out there saying that i should resign
00:47:44.100
that i'm unfit for office the reality is and the and the the the the the case and point here being is
00:47:50.960
i'm a workhorse i've worked my whole life i'm the kid who came from a basement department
00:47:55.540
you weren't supposed to win this seat i was not supposed to win this seat i mean this was a seat
00:47:59.340
that a lot of folks looked at and said definitely going democrat you know uh republicans gosh will
00:48:05.260
you know santos ran last time we'll send him to run this time and and you surprised a lot of people
00:48:10.020
all the people calling me to resign i beat them by double their margins in the victory because i
00:48:14.500
outworked every single one of them uh embellishing one's resume isn't a crime it's frankly how a lot of
00:48:21.340
people get to congress and we we want everyone to be honest and again you've acknowledged that and
00:48:25.840
you're working for it going forward uh one of the principal critiques i've heard is that a lot of money
00:48:30.360
uh was donated to your campaign by you 700 000 i believe where did it come from well i'll tell you
00:48:36.360
where it didn't come from it didn't come from china ukraine or burisma how about that well yeah that
00:48:42.140
that is an answer i mean i also put money into my campaign when i ran i had to sell some of the
00:48:48.120
property that i had acquired in my life in order to fund something that i really believed in and
00:48:52.220
you know when i was raising money for different charities i always tried to put my own money in
00:48:57.240
first and so you know when you uh donated that money to your campaign is there anything else you can say
00:49:02.580
about uh the work you did that was the origin of of those resources look i've worked my entire life
00:49:07.700
i've lived an honest life i've never been uh accused of of any bad doing so you know it's it's my
00:49:15.640
it's the equity of my hard working self and i invested inside of me like i said didn't come
00:49:21.880
from burisma it didn't come from ukraine russia china uh unlike some folks that we all know that
00:49:26.820
get money from those sources inside the beltway of washington there's such a media tornado and
00:49:33.060
there are moments where you think all people are worried about is like what's the new big thing
00:49:37.900
in washington but i'm wondering like when you hear from constituents back home what are the what
00:49:42.840
are their challenges what are the things that are concerning the people who need a strong
00:49:48.440
representative for them in congress you know we're fielding calls in the office already people are
00:49:52.460
asking for for as simple as a white house tour tickets which we've already engaged with the white
00:49:57.300
house liaison we are requesting uh passport issues and and then all the way to an issue that's very
00:50:03.600
near and dear in my community which is we have a organized crime uh uh that's taking car
00:50:10.320
uh jackings and thefts to a whole new level in my district which is it's plaguing a very specific
00:50:15.560
wealthy part of my district old westbury brookville upper brookville and it's a it's an interstate
00:50:21.660
uh faction of folks who they steal the cars from my district take them all the way to new jersey and
00:50:26.840
elizabeth to the ports put them on ships and send them overseas right we can't it's ms 13 principally
00:50:32.700
doing this right it's actually not in this in this case it's not msn 13 it's been identified that
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they're a chilenyan uh gang the police committee commissioner is rendered useless the moment they
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they cross into new york city the police commissioner of new york city is under useless the moment they
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cross over to the george washington bridge into jersey so it's like a really an fbi requirement
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to get involved in this because of the multi-jurisdictions that it covers but nobody's doing
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anything about it and i'm here trying to figure out a way to get this this solved the amount of
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constituents of mine that are plagued by this issue whether they're coming home from a restaurant and
00:51:05.340
being followed at gunpoint at their driveway whether this is a real issue in the third
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congressional district and nobody wants to talk about it local leadership is too worried about
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getting re-elected so that they can keep the power grab on the taxpayer dollar jobs and i'm here
00:51:18.400
actually trying to fight for the local people the absurdity of saying that george santos isn't we're
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going to redirect the constituents requests to another members of congress's office instead of mine
00:51:28.040
that's absurd and it's illegal i'm here to serve any member of local government that wants to say
00:51:33.480
they're not going to work with my office you're doing a disservice to the american people to the
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taxpayer i'm here willing ready and able to work and i will work for the american people in the
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district well if people don't have physical security it's hard to get almost anything else
00:51:46.540
done and uh it's one of the reasons why a lot of new yorkers are coming to the sunshine state
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are you concerned about new york depopulating because people don't feel safe i lost a lot of
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constituents in my district during the 2020 uh coronavirus shutdowns and then during this plague
00:52:02.280
of of people just running away from the whole goal situation over there so it's just been
00:52:07.380
absolutely crazy the democrats cannot stand that republicans did so well in new york they really
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can't and as we evaluate this you know uh you have to wonder whether or not these other republicans
00:52:21.340
are just the next ones you know they come for you and then they're going to come isn't the new
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york times going to come for every one of these republicans before it's over every last one of them
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i just pray for all of you when they come for you that you have the same strength i have
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george santos responding exclusively on the war room thanks for being here thanks for answering the
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tough questions and we wish you well fighting against those chilean gangs terrorizing your
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