Bannon's War Room - Episode 2438： Stopping The Ridiculous Spending Of Congress

00:00:00.000 this is the primal scream of a dying regime pray for our enemies because we're going medieval on

00:00:10.220 these people because i got a free shot all these networks lying about the people the people had a

00:00:17.060 belly full of it i know you don't like doing that i know you've tried to do everything in the world

00:00:20.860 to stop that but you're not going to stop it it's going to happen and where do people like that go

00:00:24.880 to share the big line mega media i wish in my soul i wish that any of these people had a conscience

00:00:33.060 ask yourself what is my task and what is my purpose if that answer is to save my country

00:00:40.360 this country will be saved war here's your host stephen k back

00:00:47.060 selflessness selflessness is not selling shares of yourself to the lobby core and then doing their

00:01:01.020 bidding at the expense of the american people

00:01:03.780 but there certainly is intent and it's an intent driven almost exclusively by personal ambition

00:01:12.640 and that ambition is paralyzing the house now madam clerk at this time there is great trust in mr

00:01:19.760 jordan and that's why i am nominating him

00:01:22.360 welcome back to the war room congressman matt gates here in the captain's chair while stephen k

00:01:29.840 bannon is out on assignment joined by natalie winters and we are going to have a whole lot of congress

00:01:35.240 here joining us got andy biggs in a few moments congresswoman anna paulina luna and george santos will

00:01:41.600 be joining us at the end of the show to respond to the growing calls from members of his delegation

00:01:47.060 and folks in his state that he stepped down from congress we'll see what he has to say in response

00:01:51.680 that was the action you just saw from the floor of the house of representatives and what you didn't see

00:01:57.420 from the wide camera angle is that as i was talking about the lobby core and the special interests

00:02:03.360 and the extent to which they drive the action and control the elected representatives my own

00:02:08.940 colleagues in the republican party were walking off the floor keep that in mind when you tell the

00:02:15.340 truth when you expose the influences in this town that work against the american people they can't even

00:02:21.680 stand to hear it sometimes but i am optimistic as i am here that we are going to be able to drive

00:02:27.880 the needed changes with transformational reorientation of the house of representatives

00:02:32.860 taking that power away from leadership away from the special interests and returning it to the people

00:02:38.260 one of my dearest friends phil nikosis is a member of the war room posse and he says the reason 1.00

00:02:44.280 he watches war room every day every episode is because this is where you learn the trade craft

00:02:50.700 for politics that can alter outcomes in a place where they want everything scripted they want everything

00:02:56.920 controlled and i want to thank personally the war room posse for being in this fight with me with

00:03:03.540 the 21 patriots who stood strong who demanded a house of representatives that wasn't going to advance

00:03:10.380 the imperial speakership nancy pelosi is the last of the imperial speakers we saw paul ryan and john

00:03:17.920 boehner and pelosi do everything they could to take the power of representation away from the members

00:03:23.900 so that they could go in the back rooms make all the deals with their donors and those who are paid

00:03:29.660 to influence the legislative process that is not going to happen anymore joining me for our first

00:03:35.360 segment is russ vote russ served very very well as the omb director for president trump and now

00:03:42.000 driving a lot of the strategy for the conservative movement russ you provided air cover for us here on

00:03:48.000 the war room and on other networks you provided strategic advice to me to other members

00:03:53.560 how would you assess where we are and how the 118th congress kicked off yeah it's an enormous

00:03:59.120 success and i want to thank you for all the work that you put into it the 20 really became heroes in

00:04:04.300 the minds of the american people as a result of what you were able to gain and you know that i don't

00:04:08.660 like to characterize things any way that is other than the truth and so when i say that this is a

00:04:13.780 historic transformational agreement in how the house of representatives operates i mean it that i don't

00:04:20.440 think you've seen something like this since 60 years ago when sam rayburn took power and put it

00:04:26.240 into the speakership away from the rules committee that really used to be an independent committee like

00:04:31.220 any any any other committee and so for you all to almost establish coalition government to make sure

00:04:37.280 the american people are represented by the 20 away from the special interest away from the cartel

00:04:42.560 you dealt a body blow to it it still exists in the senate it still exists in the administrative state

00:04:47.720 but in the house of representatives the american people now have a fighting chance particularly in

00:04:52.600 the rules committee and then all of the many spending reforms that you negotiated what does

00:04:57.320 steve talk about it's money and power you had major agreements on those two issues in what you guys

00:05:03.500 accomplished they robbed the banks because that's where the money is and we wanted control of the

00:05:07.520 appropriations committee because that's where you see a lot of the driving financial decisions

00:05:12.320 um that often bankrupt the country where you get different people wanting to spend money on

00:05:18.420 different things and so at the end of the day we just do all of it and that is one of the driving

00:05:22.920 forces of inflation i mean if we have any mandate as a consequence of this last election it is to push

00:05:29.100 back against government spending induced inflation and so people need to realize these changes we made

00:05:36.720 this display that we put forward on the floor is not an end unto itself what we did was we built out

00:05:43.080 a toolkit and what i want to talk to you is about how to use those tools so that we actually get to

00:05:48.840 the results so so don't think that the battle is won we are still in it let's start with the homin rule 1.00

00:05:54.160 yeah talk about what it means for any member of congress to be able to get up and defund a particular

00:06:02.020 bureaucrat it's huge and so you know i come from the executive agency before uh this role and we would

00:06:09.240 have all of these career bureaucrats that we would be having to work with and the american people would 0.68

00:06:13.540 largely not know their names until covet happened and now everyone knows who tony fauci is but think

00:06:18.580 about the ability to go to the house floor and have a debate about a particular bureaucrat that is enormous

00:06:26.640 it changes the entire game right now i would have situations where uh our staff would do anything

00:06:33.880 they possibly could not to necessarily give me what i needed because they were aware they were worried

00:06:38.400 about their own ability to stay anonymous the homin rule makes sure that those career bureaucrats are no 1.00

00:06:44.900 longer anonymous and that they are put in the crosshairs and the extent to the same extent in the arena

00:06:50.260 that you are that i am and so that is a game changer in having the appropriations debate also not just

00:06:57.480 what the message it sends but the extent to which it itself focuses the appropriations process on the

00:07:03.940 deep state on the administrative state that exists that is now woke and it's weaponized and that has to be

00:07:10.460 the biggest fiscal priority that we have to go after the woke and weaponized bureaucracy russ if we'd have 0.85

00:07:17.740 had this tool we would have obviously directed it at anthony fauci right so if you're comparing and

00:07:24.160 contrasting you we would have had the ability if we had the rules that we now have in place if we'd

00:07:29.680 have had those in place in the last congress you could actually force a vote on funding fauci or not

00:07:35.500 funding fauci as we look at a weaponized system across the apparatus of government give us some examples

00:07:42.520 or advice for who are some of the bureaucrats that enjoy their anonymity now what are some of the

00:07:48.660 agencies we should look at to target and take this tool out of the toolkit and actually put it to use

00:07:54.460 well there's all sorts of the types of people that you'd want to get in with labor hhs and the

00:08:00.100 covid fascism that we've saw as a result of kind of a lockdown era policies but we're going to want to

00:08:06.500 use this in department of justice we're going to want to find those people that participated

00:08:10.420 in the russia hoax that participate in going to fisa and lying to get warrants that are cooked up

00:08:17.020 against the american people so as you bring that aspect of what you negotiate along with the church

00:08:22.440 style committee that will sit within judiciary those are the kinds of things that you can say

00:08:26.980 in real time that makes this enforcing if the battle is certainly not over we got to show up at

00:08:32.440 every stage but it is self-enforcing you enforce it the 20 enforce it and that was what makes this

00:08:39.340 different than anything else that we've seen in recent memory because not only is your vote of

00:08:44.260 no confidence in real speak your motion to vacate present but you also have the rules committee that

00:08:50.140 is is enforcing this on a bill by bill basis so it's enormously successful and you've got a lot of

00:08:57.340 potential to use it against that that bureaucrat that you'd identify that's standing in your way

00:09:02.700 at nasa or the epa who's the epa bureaucrat that put joe robertson 77 year old navy veteran in jail

00:09:11.080 for building four ponds on his ranch to be able to fight wildfires that's the person we want to use

00:09:17.500 the holman rule on and i think it will have a deterrent effect against some of these overreaches

00:09:22.680 in bureaucracy see these bureaucrats knew that they never had to stand before the voters they never had

00:09:28.640 to have their individual budgets their individual salaries up for a vote but now we can take that

00:09:33.800 out and use it we're also going to get individual assessment of appropriations bills and you know for

00:09:39.200 all of the mainstream media talk about how we've weakened mccarthy we've weakened the speakership he

00:09:44.860 was the one republican leader and we weakened him that is nonsense we have made mccarthy stronger in 0.96

00:09:50.600 being able to negotiate against chuck schumer and joe biden because if they want to send some

00:09:57.060 omnibus spending bill our rules will not permit us to take that up and so that gives us strength to

00:10:02.700 be able to say no we have to individually look at the hhs budget the department of education budget

00:10:08.340 the department of justice budget what does that mean as a guy who understands the federal budget as good

00:10:13.460 as anyone yeah it gives the house the ability to figure out how much something costs what is in it

00:10:20.400 the cartel often doesn't even know themselves what is in the bills that they're jamming through

00:10:25.620 because they only represent pieces of it so this spreads it out it slows it down when you're up

00:10:31.080 against a big enemy a big adversary what do you want to do you want to slow it down you know what do

00:10:35.520 you want to do when you're up against you know uh duke basketball you know you want to slow the court

00:10:40.640 down doing that on the appropriations process will allow you to figure out how bad this is and then

00:10:46.220 you've given us a fighting chance on the outside to give you the air cover to be able to make sure

00:10:50.540 that we're not spending on ridiculous earmarks across the country no it's a key point that the

00:10:56.820 way the worst things happen in this town is by using the calendar to jam people and to not get a

00:11:03.200 review of where they're spending this money i mean look at this last 1.7 trillion dollar omnibus bill

00:11:09.340 they're funding every lgbtq concept they could think of they're actually funding their own political

00:11:15.480 apparatus if you think about it because a lot of these different entities are not engaged in public

00:11:20.960 do-gooding they're engaged in political work and now taxpayer money is going to be used to that end

00:11:26.600 and so this gives us the tool to be able to fight back against it um it's also not an end unto itself

00:11:32.600 this sense of teamwork we've created among committed conservatives and you spoke a lot about how a slim

00:11:39.060 majority actually empowers conservatives to band together and force change we're excited about that

00:11:45.880 not everyone is take a listen to maggie haberman on abc lamenting the great horrors of the new gates

00:11:53.860 group play the clip and maggie and we heard speaker mccarthy right there say that donald trump deserves a

00:11:59.340 lot of credit uh does he i don't know about a lot um you know considering that he had endorsed mccarthy

00:12:05.040 and early in the week made a public push for him that he hadn't wanted to make he had to do it because

00:12:09.120 he gave some mealy mouth comment to an nbc reporter uh and that didn't do anything but he he did matter

00:12:14.440 at the end and in that very final uh motion to adjourn right before they voted in mccarthy he did

00:12:20.480 make calls to people like matt gates and he did have some influence there that's a problem for kevin

00:12:25.520 mccarthy is that it's not just scott perry and the house freedom caucus it's this matt gates group and

00:12:30.140 matt gates kept his folks together and he is now in a pretty strong position with mccarthy

00:12:36.680 keeping our folks together having a singular point of focus um what are the fights you see coming

00:12:45.940 forward whether it's the debt limit or other matters where the assembly of this team is gonna

00:12:51.960 is gonna need to be put out on the battlefield yeah there's all of these budget fights are going to

00:12:56.860 be very very early on in the new year and so it's going to be the budget it's going to be the debt

00:13:01.500 limit but the appropriations committee is going to make moves at very very soon in in their attempt

00:13:07.660 to unravel this and it's going to be incumbent on the 20 who now have new power coalitional style

00:13:14.760 government to be able to step into that new day and realize that anything that happened before this

00:13:20.180 power share agreement is old history new history is such that we make determinations based on the

00:13:27.480 decisions of the american people it is not hey you're going to vote for someone a bill just because

00:13:32.560 it's in your committee no is it good for the 20 and is it good for the american people and if you guys

00:13:37.960 have that approach to everything that you do it will be a new day in the congress but it's one of those

00:13:43.960 things where you you just negotiated and secured this historic thing and now everyone needs to kind of

00:13:49.220 manifest it by how they act in decisions that they make to say no i'm not i'm not going along with

00:13:54.320 that that's the old day of thinking we're going to think about how it looks like today all right

00:13:58.980 natalie winters are you ready to keep the investigative reporting going so we know exactly who to defund and

00:14:04.480 exactly where all the swamp monsters are buried having some audio difficulties but of course as always

00:14:11.620 that's my forte i love digging into all the ways that the chinese communist party uh has gotten its

00:14:17.060 scary scary claws and greedy talons into the city that is washington dc

00:14:20.900 well we absolutely have to use these tools i think it's going to be critically important and

00:14:28.060 the rules committee used to always be like the inner sanctum now it is going to be an asset of the

00:14:34.040 conservatives to enforce all of this russ vote was given the air cover he was given the strategic advice

00:14:38.940 the man knows the budget we know the rules and now we're going to use the leverage and power we have

00:14:43.780 to change this place and send a shockwave to the dc cartel thanks for joining us russ we'll be right

00:14:48.900 back on the war room

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00:16:07.780 steven k bannon is on assignment i'm congressman matt gates here with natalie winters and joining us now

00:16:17.100 congressman andy biggs there's over 10 000 people who've served in the united states congress during

00:16:22.580 our nation's history but far fewer who have ever received a vote for speaker of the house i was proud

00:16:27.840 to vote for andy biggs on the first ballot as were many of our colleagues now we're in a position with

00:16:32.760 real leverage real authority and we've done something for the institution undeniably that

00:16:37.640 will outlive our time outlive kevin mccarthy's speakership and i i was so honored to be in that

00:16:43.640 fight with you we know the fight coming is on the border and few in congress have worked as hard to

00:16:49.740 try to educate members about the dynamic there the morale that has been zapped of the border patrol

00:16:56.400 the cartel network that has become fused with the mexican government and we finally saw joe biden take

00:17:03.740 his first trip to the border i think it is an entire time in public life your reaction to the president's

00:17:09.180 trip well what what a farce i mean he managed to squeeze in three or four hours on the border after

00:17:14.800 they cleaned it up he has he has no knowledge of what goes on because he didn't get any knowledge

00:17:20.400 i lay this at mayorka's feet homeland security secretary mayorka's feet because he got it all

00:17:26.160 cleaned up he didn't see the hole in the fence in el paso where you got venezuelans pouring through

00:17:31.400 um living on the streets of el paso because they moved him out um he didn't he didn't see yuma you've

00:17:38.080 been with me to yuma you've been on the border um i mean that you have people now yuma has so many

00:17:44.980 people that that cbp is having to release them they can't even get them to the ngo's and move them 0.93

00:17:50.020 into our country they're releasing them into the town the city of yuma which is about 80 000 90 000

00:17:54.820 people tens of thousands coming over in massive waves right now there's hope among people in the

00:18:01.980 country with with republican control the house of representatives we will be able to utilize some of

00:18:06.980 these tools but make a prediction for me congressman biggs two years from now will we see that from this

00:18:13.540 point the the illegal immigration trajectory going up or going down it's i'm going to give you two

00:18:20.000 factors that weigh into to my prediction number one is that um mayorkas and biden now recognize they

00:18:26.540 have a problem on their hands politically and so they're going to try to reimplement the safe first

00:18:31.800 country that will be helpful for us in reducing it but at the same time you've got the republicans

00:18:37.200 in the senate talking about amnesty and that will instead incentivize so i think you're going to have a

00:18:43.700 net positive um so where you're sitting at 12 13 000 people a day being encountered and coming across

00:18:50.420 and another 5 000 at least um uh you know i got a ways you're going to see that increase to by two

00:18:57.540 by two to three thousand people so don't believe that just because republicans got control of the

00:19:03.760 house of representatives we have some magic elixir that is going to turn the tide on this you've just

00:19:08.780 heard congressman biggs say we're actually going to see more illegal immigration going forward likely

00:19:13.980 not less this will upset the war room posse what we're about to tell you but if you take a universe

00:19:19.420 of all republicans in the house of representatives and in the senate a majority of those people believe

00:19:26.580 that the right immigration policy is to trade some feature of amnesty for some feature of border

00:19:33.640 security and their definition of a good deal is to trade as little amnesty as we have to for as much

00:19:40.500 border security as we can get why is that the wrong approach well because a historical uh data tells us

00:19:47.280 that anytime that congress even mentions the word amnesty you have an immediate surge at the borders

00:19:51.660 that's number one number two historically we have always done that and we've never gotten the border

00:19:57.240 security it's like betting on the come again you know we're okay yeah we're going to go ahead and give

00:20:01.220 you amnesty and we're going to trust that you're going to give us border security and it's never

00:20:05.420 happened third thing is the cartel controls the border now and uh you know it it won't matter what

00:20:12.420 if you say okay we're going to add some some footage to the fence um because we're still going to be so

00:20:19.760 overwhelmed that our poor agents they're just going to be used as the you know the the logistics arm of

00:20:26.220 the cartel they're just going to be transporting them to a center and let them go the other thing

00:20:30.700 too is is this administration is now proposed a believe it or not an app where you can where these

00:20:37.800 people can come and they don't even have to be processed anymore they don't have to get a return

00:20:41.200 to appear they're going to be able to put it into an app and by the way everybody coming across our

00:20:45.560 border has a smartphone they do well you've been with me they're they're they're facetiming back home

00:20:51.120 hey i made it across they're going to have an app so they can just put in and say i'm here and uh so

00:20:56.860 you start trading amnesty the incentives will still be there for any amnesty any amnesty you wouldn't

00:21:03.220 trade the most thorough exquisite border security internal enforcement regime for daca would you no i

00:21:11.480 wouldn't all right well uh we've said this is a show about tradecraft about how we have to manage

00:21:18.000 the power we have how to marshal it effectively let me throw out a scenario for you the discharge

00:21:24.300 petition this gets a little wonky but i think the war room audience can hang with me yeah the rules

00:21:29.060 of the house say that if 218 people sign a petition to discharge a piece of legislation from the committee

00:21:36.140 process it does not pass go it does not collect two hundred dollars it goes straight to the floor of

00:21:42.540 the house of representatives i predict the 212 213 democrats will sign a discharge petition for a

00:21:49.960 clean daca bill with no border security and that five or six or ten liberal republicans might join

00:21:57.600 with them so that the work we do in the judiciary committee is diminished how would we stop that

00:22:02.520 well the first thing is i i you would count on kevin mccarthy to to stop it but he's not going to

00:22:09.360 why do i know he's not going to because we already have a member of our of our leadership team that

00:22:14.180 supports uh not just daca amnesty but the the the deal devil uh deal with the devil that you're

00:22:19.960 talking about so that that's number one wait who is that member of leadership who supports a clean daca

00:22:25.280 uh i i won't i won't say clean daca he's he wants to trade amnesty that would be he wants to trade

00:22:31.040 amnesty for for border security they don't even know what they want for border security so i've got my

00:22:36.020 two bills that that actually are pretty comprehensive border security the only way you're going to be

00:22:42.060 able to stop them i'm kind of surprised they didn't do it this week if you want the truth man

00:22:45.360 i wow week one i thought they would do a week one i thought they'd do a week one natalie winters how

00:22:50.820 will the war room posse feel if six republicans team up with all the democrats to do an end run

00:22:56.520 around where most republicans out in the country are on daca

00:22:59.640 deja vu uh it's you know swamp gonna swamp uh to say the least i'm not surprised i think immigration 1.00

00:23:08.700 is one of the i would say most salient issues with the war room posse because it affects everyone

00:23:14.780 and i think it's the issue that the ruling class loves to gaslight americans on the most they love

00:23:20.820 to tell us that immigration illegal immigration is actually great for the country right shut up sit

00:23:27.360 down and enjoy multiculturalism right forgetting for this unum uh diversity is our strength and of 0.94

00:23:34.080 course daca right the poor dreamers right they love to really tug on those heartstrings but americans

00:23:39.300 the war room posse know that illegal immigration is tanking this country all the way from depleting

00:23:44.620 social services to depressing wages and it shouldn't be lost on anyone i think just a month ago the

00:23:49.980 world economic forum put up an article that actually said that illegal immigration was the

00:23:54.240 way that we could solve inflation immigration illegal immigration seems to be the catch-all that's

00:23:59.120 always pushed by american elites by the american ruling class to fix any problem that we have when

00:24:05.300 in reality the reverse is true our open border is the cause of so many of the economic woes that

00:24:11.200 we're facing right now the national security threats that we're facing right now the fentanyl pouring

00:24:15.540 over here that's that's of course tied to the chinese communist party so the war room

00:24:19.820 posse uh will know all too well that it's just gaslighting like i said in the last block the

00:24:26.180 reason that the biden regime wants to ban gas stoves is so they can have a monopoly on gaslighting but

00:24:31.840 the war room posse is well informed as they are won't let it happen on the issue of immigration

00:24:36.920 well and know that you have a say in this and do not allow a mystified process in washington

00:24:45.600 to let some of these liberal republicans off the hook you need to be communicating with members of

00:24:51.240 congress saying if you sign up to join the democrats on this procedural maneuver we know you are selling

00:24:58.100 out we know you are doing an end run around the legislative process uh andy do you have other border

00:25:03.740 trips planned where you're inviting members of congress down to observe uh these circumstances and

00:25:09.400 how are the circumstances on the border changing what are the trend lines you're seeing

00:25:13.100 so yeah we're going to take some more people down my uh you know kate my my chief she's actually 0.99

00:25:18.440 already in the process of planning we'll see if anybody will come with us after last week you

00:25:22.320 never know matt but um the situation is like this um first of all el paso is an interesting choice for

00:25:29.200 biden because a year ago they were getting about 300 to 350 apprehensions a day those are encounters

00:25:34.760 people just coming and surrendering and now it's well over a thousand a day but i don't believe he

00:25:40.580 toured the soft side outside of el paso now you have to see the soft sides and you've seen them

00:25:46.100 with me when they've just been so packed they're worse than the when you and i were there they are

00:25:50.900 far worse and and and in yuma they just don't have enough room at all the other thing too is they

00:25:56.780 they're moving people they're letting agents go where they need to go uh for their home choice so

00:26:02.700 they can say well i want to go down to la jolla or whatever because i have family down by la jolla texas

00:26:07.140 well la jolla texas is being overrun and there's signs literally at the border when when they cross

00:26:13.040 the river they come across there's a sign that says go this way to see the border patrol and they'll go

00:26:18.280 to the border patrol and they just walk right and get processed and they're getting released

00:26:21.620 and so um we it's it's 12 000 people or so a day and in in tucson sector well over a thousand

00:26:30.360 gotaways every day these are the people who don't want to be talked these are these are the folks that

00:26:36.860 are probably terrorists they're dealing drugs they're they're they're criminal gang members uh

00:26:41.500 they're they're from high interest countries of high interest you know so they're so we don't know

00:26:45.660 what they're doing and we don't know where they're going um and it's it's pretty bad it's

00:26:51.740 number one so you and i are america first foreign policy we do not believe that our country

00:26:57.900 should be trying to build jeffersonian democracies out of sand and blood and arab 1.00

00:27:02.160 militias in the middle east and so we've sought reforms to prior authorizations to use military

00:27:07.120 force but what we see in the fusion of purpose between these cartels and the mexican government

00:27:12.440 should the united states of america authorize the use of military force against these mexican cartels

00:27:17.180 that are stronger than many countries in our hemisphere um we're we're getting pretty close to

00:27:22.640 that point think think what amlo just said when biden's down there he said you know don't you know

00:27:28.660 grant us he said grant amnesty to the 40 million mexicans that are in america this is from amlo the

00:27:35.100 president of mexico he thanked him don't put up a fence let us keep coming and uh they're using this

00:27:41.620 as an integral part of their their governments and their financing mexico is not blameless in this

00:27:48.060 they are joining in the problem and i think there needs to be accountability there andy biggs congressman

00:27:53.940 guy voted for for speaker thanks for joining us on the war room we'll be right back with

00:27:57.520 anna paulina luna and george santos

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00:29:31.560 your host stephen k back

00:29:33.980 but i want to clarify something real quick to my colleagues across the aisle

00:29:43.400 what you're seeing with this this discussion does not mean that we are dysfunctional

00:29:48.040 and in no way shape or form will a democrat ever hold the gavel to a republican controlled house

00:29:55.220 these discussions and dialogues have actually been good for the american people and although the media

00:30:05.060 tries to pit us against each other i can tell you that it's been something that we need as a country

00:30:12.100 there are people that are frustrated with this process byron through this entire time has done

00:30:17.140 something that i think most leaders should do more of and that is listen respect people when they're

00:30:21.820 talking understand the needs of the american people be willing to take negotiations but also

00:30:28.920 to to realize when is a proper time to stand your ground on certain things

00:30:32.740 she is not a rising star she has arrived on paulina luna my favorite member of congress from the

00:30:41.660 sunshine state joins us by phone on that was a rousing speech that you gave on the floor and i want to

00:30:48.580 start with this question because there's been a lot of folks in the mainstream media saying oh

00:30:52.560 we've we've weakened the institution we've weakened speaker mccarthy as you assess it is the republican

00:30:59.440 majority stronger today than we were a week ago absolutely in fact you know for those who are

00:31:05.220 tuning in there's this room right off the floor it's called the cloak room and it's where sometimes

00:31:09.680 members will go either before votes or in between and we you know they have a little back room but the

00:31:14.460 point is is that you know when i was back there even right after our negotiations had leaked and what

00:31:20.080 was actually being talked about and what really has now become adopted by the republican party many of

00:31:26.060 our colleagues actually said you know i just want to let you know i really applaud you for what you

00:31:29.680 guys are doing and we actually really like where this is at and we appreciate it and good on you

00:31:34.460 so i think the media initially was trying to paint us as you know quote unquote terrorists and

00:31:39.580 extortionists but we're clearly not clearly our hearts are in it for the american people and ultimately

00:31:44.260 what you'll find is that when you come up here there is a certain type of way and system of how things

00:31:48.960 are run and people like myself and representative gates we don't agree with that system that it's

00:31:53.800 correct and so we have to bring change and i think we brought change this past week

00:31:57.100 on a one of the key demands that was not met prior to our efforts to really go through a

00:32:07.820 deliberative process was a demand for a vote on term limits we hear all over the country the american

00:32:13.540 people want term limits but we never seem to take a vote on it so establishment members can say one

00:32:20.460 thing and then they're never really held to account what do you think is the impact of forcing a vote

00:32:25.460 on term limits in the house of representatives i think it's really going to show the american people

00:32:30.280 constituents of some of these representatives that say you know they're going to washington to bring

00:32:34.140 change it's going to show them where their heart's really at you know i took a term limit pledge early

00:32:38.880 on and i am a firm believer and part of the reason why we see such a broken system and if you even just

00:32:43.320 want to take a look at the deficit currently you know people that have been up there sometimes for 10-20

00:32:48.120 years say that they're up there to serve the american people and yet we have this ballooning

00:32:52.240 debt nothing changes and so i'm a firm believer in that as you know matt serving in the florida house

00:32:58.020 we have we have term limits there and we have a good turnover and i think that that's in part why we have

00:33:02.600 such a good republican representation in the house in florida but i'm supportive of it and i can tell you

00:33:07.920 that people back home when they saw that that was actually something that now speaker mccarthy

00:33:13.720 actually agreed to some of these concessions they actually applauded it and they want to see

00:33:18.420 that so i'm excited to vote for it i'm definitely someone that signed on to representative norman's

00:33:22.840 bill and i hope that the american people can see exactly what we're fighting for

00:33:26.180 you heard it right there from a great florida woman on a paulina luna if we want to florida-fy the 0.93

00:33:35.840 country one great way to do that is to embrace term limits now what i noticed in the state of florida

00:33:40.540 when we got term limits our state legislature got a lot younger natalie winters right now we have the 1.00

00:33:47.260 third oldest congress in american history how do you assess a congress that is going to be voting

00:33:54.460 on decisions where a lot of the members won't even be around for the consequences of those votes

00:34:00.760 politician serves or spends time in washington dc the more likely they are to have been compromised

00:34:10.300 by all of these foreign elements and of course domestic elements too who certainly don't have

00:34:15.880 the future of americans my age even your age i know we're sort of close in age uh but at the top

00:34:22.100 of their mind and frankly when you're talking about chinese communist party compromise i think they have

00:34:27.220 the antithesis of the issues that are important um and really really really i mean existentially

00:34:33.180 important uh to young americans whether it's finances issues like covid vaccine mandates so term

00:34:39.100 limits are so important to prevent this i also think the world that we've inherited whether it's

00:34:44.540 social media the issues facing young people there's just a generational gap and when you see people i like

00:34:49.920 to call them ossified swamp creatures uh who look so old they should be nowhere near congress they've been 0.68

00:34:56.320 there for so long and the really scary ones are the ones who you don't know their names because that

00:35:01.520 means that they're just part of the dc permanent political class they just sort of are a rubber

00:35:06.460 stamp on all the policies that really are detrimental um to the success of this country uh it really is i

00:35:13.300 think a glaring case for why we need term limits but i will say the important thing to emphasize

00:35:17.420 when you have this mass exodus of i would say sort of the grifter lobby in congress right the people

00:35:23.420 who've sold out who really are america last at their core it's important that we have regulations

00:35:29.040 in place to make sure that these people don't leave congress and then end up as foreign lobbyists

00:35:35.460 for countries like ukraine like china or as more domestic lobbyists for big pharmaceutical companies

00:35:41.760 say pfizer moderna because that is really a tale as old as time right people who leave congress they join

00:35:47.940 congress with bad intentions in the first place just to get kind of connected into that revolving door pipeline

00:35:53.140 so we definitely need term limits but concurrently i think we need to be pursuing regulations and

00:35:58.900 restrictions on former members of congress who go and lobby on behalf of both private enterprises but

00:36:04.780 also foreign countries it's a great point term limits would make congress younger it would make

00:36:12.040 congress more dynamic and it would make congress less corrupt and if you have someone able to be here

00:36:18.740 for decades and decades and then those people get bought off well buying people off becomes

00:36:24.280 more amateurized over that extended period of time so if the chinese communist party foreign interests

00:36:31.100 abroad special interests at home want to actually bribe people and buy them off at least if we have term

00:36:36.640 limits they'll have to buy off a new crop every six or eight years and it'll make it far more 0.66

00:36:41.920 difficult and it'll make it more enticing for patriots to want to run for congress on a paulina luna

00:36:47.520 from the state of florida new member of congress but actually had to run for congress two times to get

00:36:53.540 here when you have run you have faced opposition from not only democrats but from the republican

00:37:00.180 establishment establishment republican super PACs came after on a paulina luna because they know she's a 1.00

00:37:07.160 veteran they know she's a fighter and they know she is entirely loyal to her constituents not the swamp

00:37:13.420 ana what does it mean that as part of this deal for speaker mccarthy we got some of these

00:37:19.180 establishment republican PACs to disarm themselves in these primaries where we want to get great

00:37:26.140 patriots like you into the united states congress oh that's a game changer you know uh to your credit

00:37:31.640 matt early on i think that you were actually one of the first member of congress to actually met with

00:37:36.480 me and then in my first race you were the only one that had endorsed me and you know in that race i was

00:37:41.700 outspent and then in this race i mean i was outspent 12 million dollars to 1 million dollars but the

00:37:46.180 point is is that when you are in some of these contested primaries and a lot of times the primaries

00:37:50.220 the most important time in the race right especially for some of these red seats because at that point

00:37:55.320 you're determining who the likely representative will be on the republican ticket um for myself and i'm

00:38:01.760 sure for many candidates across the country when you are a grassroots populist candidate you know

00:38:06.920 there's a certain money that i won't take i won't take money from pharmaceutical

00:38:10.020 um i'm very very very cautious about taking special certain special interest money and i think

00:38:16.700 to your credit i know you don't take any lobbying money but you know that's a separate conversation

00:38:20.480 and topic but you know these super PACs will come in and people just completely just just try to destroy

00:38:26.160 you and in my case they did exactly that but you know we had a really strong grassroots game

00:38:31.040 but i will say to you know candidates like joe ken and hopefully carolyn levitt i would love to see

00:38:35.440 i know joe ken i think announced that he's running again yesterday um i'm very excited about that

00:38:39.880 because i know he faced some fierce opposition from the party in his primary but you know the

00:38:44.500 fact that they're staying out i think makes it more of a level playing field for the voters to truly

00:38:49.500 decide who the best candidate is and one of the bigger issues that we have right now in our elections

00:38:54.980 is it becomes so expensive that it makes it nearly impossible for quote-unquote normal candidates and

00:39:00.720 normal people to actually run for office and that's not the way our system that our founding

00:39:05.080 fathers and the way this country could be and so i do believe that because of that it keeps some of

00:39:10.360 the best candidates away from politics and so i'm very excited that um that happened i think it was

00:39:16.220 way beyond due and i think that both you and i now will probably on the campaign trail for some

00:39:21.680 of these american first candidates this next election cycle

00:39:24.020 undeniably if the paradigm we have now negotiated going forward were governing in the last election

00:39:34.720 cycle joe kent would be a member of congress caroline levitt would be a member of congress and the 0.68

00:39:40.760 republican majority the size of the of the delta between us and the democrats would be 50 larger so

00:39:48.460 it's very significant and it's very significant that congress will be more attractive as a career

00:39:54.860 opportunity for people like anna paulina luna like joe kent like caroline levitt anna what do you

00:40:01.800 think the principal critique is of your constituents when they are concerned about congress i mean right

00:40:07.300 now congress has like a nine percent approval rating moammar qaddafi had a 13 percent approval rating

00:40:12.500 and his own people dragged him in the streets and killed him so so what is it that the folks in florida

00:40:16.920 you serve want to see change about this place you know the biggest um critique they have and really

00:40:23.300 i think had until the 20 of us kind of stood up there and did our thing is that they don't trust

00:40:28.660 elected representatives they don't trust congress and i think that they saw that really play out on

00:40:33.040 the national scene because initially the even some people that we thought were on our side of course not

00:40:38.340 not the war room posse but you know some of the mainstream other outlets that were quote unquote

00:40:42.540 conservatives you know were hitting us saying that we were causing all this chaos and they had

00:40:47.300 no idea what we were doing and i think that what we did you know as a it showed the country that change

00:40:54.140 can happen that you know there are still people that are fighting for the interests of the american

00:40:59.080 people for the constitution and to really stop some of the corruption that was staying out of

00:41:03.380 washington but i think that this is just one of many things that has to continue to happen and i want

00:41:09.060 to be really clear about something for what we've done i really do believe that it's going to help

00:41:14.580 set the stage for 2024 and i do believe that some of what we're seeing now will be around far after

00:41:21.760 both you and i leave office matt and so for me especially when it came time for for that vote i mean

00:41:27.860 i think we both realized what was on the table and you know it's going to take a lot more but i don't

00:41:33.940 want to tell everyone that this country is not beyond saving because i think there's some really great

00:41:37.860 patriots up here but um yeah i think people just have lost trust in the process and and we hope

00:41:43.480 to bring some of that back and i can tell you that many people now that they know what we did

00:41:47.280 especially back home in pinellas county i've gotten thank yous i mean when i was traveling home

00:41:52.560 and traveling here to washington from home people were stopping me in the airport and saying thank you

00:41:57.540 so that goes a long way so natalie we heard anna talk about the influence of big pharma how that has

00:42:05.860 become supercharged and you've done a lot of reporting on how compromised elements of big

00:42:11.600 pharma are and you look at that compromise and then how it manifests in our congressional activity

00:42:17.480 they want to be in charge and one of the things that we did not have a concession on at the beginning

00:42:22.300 of last week but we now have a guarantee from mccarthy on is a vote to get rid of the national

00:42:28.400 emergency and i think that will in in a lot of ways just peel back the layers of the onion on

00:42:34.540 what all big pharma has done to scare us what's your assessment of a vote upcoming getting rid of

00:42:41.060 the national emergency and taking the power away from big pharma we got about a minute you're making

00:42:46.520 big pharma lobbyists very mad and they've increased their lobbying representation recently post-covid by

00:42:53.440 hundreds of percents you're talking dozens of people millions of dollars have been spent

00:42:58.140 so i hope we can repeal it i hope we can make these lobbyists mad i don't know if kevin mccarthy

00:43:03.700 is the person to do it but with fighters like you i think we can get it done

00:43:07.160 and fighters like anna paulina luna anna how can folks follow you real quick

00:43:12.460 yeah head over to my personal social media at real anna paulina if you want to see what i'm doing

00:43:17.640 in congress at rep luna all right thanks so much for joining us anna we'll be back

00:43:24.380 with george santos you'll want to miss it

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00:44:56.300 so i join with you and i join with my colleagues in saying that george santos does not have the ability

00:45:17.820 to serve here in the house of representatives and should resign

00:45:25.740 we're back in the war room i'm congressman matt gates stephen k bannon is on assignment

00:45:30.020 one thing i know about this town they come for the fighters and they are coming for george santos like

00:45:35.780 nothing i've seen in quite some time i could ask you what it's like to be an embattled congressman but

00:45:40.960 i kind of know a little bit about that scene george you've heard just there congressman

00:45:46.140 de esposito your republican colleague calling for you to resign nick langworthy also has your reaction

00:45:52.380 you know matt it's it's your prerogative i i came here to serve the people not politicians and party

00:45:58.400 leaders and uh and i'm going to do just that and i've been doing just that throughout this entire

00:46:01.880 first two weeks whether it was voting for the speaker or whether it's been the last week where

00:46:06.360 we've been working on legislation in my office so you know i wish well all of their opinions but i

00:46:11.320 was elected by 142 000 people until those same 142 000 people tell me they don't want me uh we'll find

00:46:17.340 out in two years what are those 142 000 people deserve in a representative they deserve somebody

00:46:22.120 who's going to come here and fight and not get involved with the media nonsense that we're seeing

00:46:25.440 take place right look a lot of people are saying that i am unable to govern i'm unable to deliver

00:46:31.220 but in the meantime my office and my staff uh we've been able to jump on co-sponsoring

00:46:35.820 legislation such as term limits which you spoke about earlier you know there's not a lot of people

00:46:40.080 running to jump on this specifically the ones criticizing me they want to stay here forever

00:46:43.840 i don't want to stay here forever i want to come here do the best i can with the time i have

00:46:48.600 and deliver for the american people and that's going to be through fighting crime inflation and whatnot

00:46:52.940 that's what they elected me to do and that's what i'm going to give them

00:46:55.800 you have admitted embellishing your resume you've acknowledged it you've apologized for it

00:47:02.620 uh some have said that you shouldn't be seated on committees for it i would offer that if we

00:47:07.540 didn't seat people on committees who embellish their resume running for congress we probably

00:47:11.640 wouldn't be able to make a quorum in any of those committees uh do you do you uh now have a sense of

00:47:18.700 the committees you want to serve on the type of work you want to do i came to dc without really any

00:47:23.760 preconceived notions of what committees to serve but whether what i can give to the american people

00:47:28.400 whatever committee i'm given whether it's i don't know science and technology or education and labor

00:47:33.280 or whatever committee is thrown my way i will deliver 110 because that's what i know how to do

00:47:38.980 i'm going to outwork any of the pundits and talking heads that are out there saying that i should resign

00:47:44.100 that i'm unfit for office the reality is and the and the the the the the case and point here being is

00:47:50.960 i'm a workhorse i've worked my whole life i'm the kid who came from a basement department

00:47:55.540 you weren't supposed to win this seat i was not supposed to win this seat i mean this was a seat

00:47:59.340 that a lot of folks looked at and said definitely going democrat you know uh republicans gosh will

00:48:05.260 you know santos ran last time we'll send him to run this time and and you surprised a lot of people

00:48:10.020 all the people calling me to resign i beat them by double their margins in the victory because i

00:48:14.500 outworked every single one of them uh embellishing one's resume isn't a crime it's frankly how a lot of

00:48:21.340 people get to congress and we we want everyone to be honest and again you've acknowledged that and

00:48:25.840 you're working for it going forward uh one of the principal critiques i've heard is that a lot of money

00:48:30.360 uh was donated to your campaign by you 700 000 i believe where did it come from well i'll tell you

00:48:36.360 where it didn't come from it didn't come from china ukraine or burisma how about that well yeah that

00:48:42.140 that is an answer i mean i also put money into my campaign when i ran i had to sell some of the

00:48:48.120 property that i had acquired in my life in order to fund something that i really believed in and

00:48:52.220 you know when i was raising money for different charities i always tried to put my own money in

00:48:57.240 first and so you know when you uh donated that money to your campaign is there anything else you can say

00:49:02.580 about uh the work you did that was the origin of of those resources look i've worked my entire life

00:49:07.700 i've lived an honest life i've never been uh accused of of any bad doing so you know it's it's my

00:49:15.640 it's the equity of my hard working self and i invested inside of me like i said didn't come

00:49:21.880 from burisma it didn't come from ukraine russia china uh unlike some folks that we all know that

00:49:26.820 get money from those sources inside the beltway of washington there's such a media tornado and

00:49:33.060 there are moments where you think all people are worried about is like what's the new big thing

00:49:37.900 in washington but i'm wondering like when you hear from constituents back home what are the what

00:49:42.840 are their challenges what are the things that are concerning the people who need a strong

00:49:48.440 representative for them in congress you know we're fielding calls in the office already people are

00:49:52.460 asking for for as simple as a white house tour tickets which we've already engaged with the white 0.83

00:49:57.300 house liaison we are requesting uh passport issues and and then all the way to an issue that's very

00:50:03.600 near and dear in my community which is we have a organized crime uh uh that's taking car

00:50:10.320 uh jackings and thefts to a whole new level in my district which is it's plaguing a very specific

00:50:15.560 wealthy part of my district old westbury brookville upper brookville and it's a it's an interstate

00:50:21.660 uh faction of folks who they steal the cars from my district take them all the way to new jersey and

00:50:26.840 elizabeth to the ports put them on ships and send them overseas right we can't it's ms 13 principally

00:50:32.700 doing this right it's actually not in this in this case it's not msn 13 it's been identified that

00:50:37.300 they're a chilenyan uh gang the police committee commissioner is rendered useless the moment they 1.00

00:50:43.240 they cross into new york city the police commissioner of new york city is under useless the moment they

00:50:47.500 cross over to the george washington bridge into jersey so it's like a really an fbi requirement

00:50:52.380 to get involved in this because of the multi-jurisdictions that it covers but nobody's doing

00:50:56.160 anything about it and i'm here trying to figure out a way to get this this solved the amount of

00:51:00.560 constituents of mine that are plagued by this issue whether they're coming home from a restaurant and

00:51:05.340 being followed at gunpoint at their driveway whether this is a real issue in the third

00:51:09.600 congressional district and nobody wants to talk about it local leadership is too worried about

00:51:13.380 getting re-elected so that they can keep the power grab on the taxpayer dollar jobs and i'm here

00:51:18.400 actually trying to fight for the local people the absurdity of saying that george santos isn't we're

00:51:23.080 going to redirect the constituents requests to another members of congress's office instead of mine

00:51:28.040 that's absurd and it's illegal i'm here to serve any member of local government that wants to say

00:51:33.480 they're not going to work with my office you're doing a disservice to the american people to the

00:51:37.640 taxpayer i'm here willing ready and able to work and i will work for the american people in the

00:51:42.060 district well if people don't have physical security it's hard to get almost anything else

00:51:46.540 done and uh it's one of the reasons why a lot of new yorkers are coming to the sunshine state

00:51:51.600 are you concerned about new york depopulating because people don't feel safe i lost a lot of

00:51:56.420 constituents in my district during the 2020 uh coronavirus shutdowns and then during this plague

00:52:02.280 of of people just running away from the whole goal situation over there so it's just been

00:52:07.380 absolutely crazy the democrats cannot stand that republicans did so well in new york they really

00:52:14.600 can't and as we evaluate this you know uh you have to wonder whether or not these other republicans

00:52:21.340 are just the next ones you know they come for you and then they're going to come isn't the new

00:52:25.520 york times going to come for every one of these republicans before it's over every last one of them

00:52:29.960 i just pray for all of you when they come for you that you have the same strength i have

00:52:35.420 george santos responding exclusively on the war room thanks for being here thanks for answering the

00:52:41.260 tough questions and we wish you well fighting against those chilean gangs terrorizing your 1.00

00:52:45.740 constituents thanks for joining us this is the war room i'm congressman matt gates steve bannon will be

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Bannon's War Room - January 12, 2023

Episode 2438： Stopping The Ridiculous Spending Of Congress

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