Bannon's War Room - Episode 2456： The Fight Over The Debt Ceiling

00:00:00.000 Yellen says the U.S. government is now working under, quote, extraordinary measures to pay the nation's bills.

00:00:05.920 Yellen predicting the U.S. will default on June 5th if Congress doesn't raise the debt limit.

00:00:11.140 But with no compromise in sight, will Speaker McCarthy do what Speaker Boehner did in 2011 and compromise to avoid a global financial meltdown?

00:00:18.920 Before retiring from the Senate, Pennsylvania's Pat Toomey was the top Republican on the Banking Committee and also serving on the Budget and Finance Committees and joins me now here in Washington.

00:00:28.540 It's great to see you, Senator.

00:00:30.220 Thanks for having me, Andrea.

00:00:31.280 Congratulations for being out of the mess.

00:00:35.580 You've graduated, but you have a wealth of experience in the House and the Senate with so much change.

00:00:42.100 Can you see Kevin McCarthy with the deals that he has made to become Speaker after that, which you can only describe as a debacle of a week?

00:00:49.320 That was hardly a great kickoff for the celebration of them taking over.

00:00:52.500 With all of those deals, how does he make the kind of compromises that are almost unavoidable down the road?

00:01:00.660 Yeah, so I'm not sure that the specific terms of the deal that got him his speakership were really all that unreasonable.

00:01:08.460 In fact, I think many of them were not unreasonable to do individual appropriation bills, for instance, in some sequence rather than a multi-thousand page bill at the end of the year.

00:01:18.420 That's completely reasonable, right, to have an open amendment process so that members have a chance to weigh in on the substance of the bill.

00:01:25.400 That's completely reasonable.

00:01:26.800 The question, in my mind, becomes when Republicans attempt to do that, maybe they pass a bill in the House, but when it is unacceptable to the president, it's unacceptable to Chuck Schumer and Democrats in the Senate, and some negotiation has to occur, does the outcome of that negotiation precipitate the attempt to dethrone him from Speaker?

00:01:48.700 Or will it be deemed acceptable that we put up the best fight we could, but after all, Democrats control two-thirds of the elected parts of government, so we're not going to win everything?

00:02:00.260 And that's the question we haven't seen yet.

00:02:02.580 Yeah, I mean, everyone has their principles, and as you point out, that a lot of those agreements were based on abuses that had been in effect.

00:02:11.260 But what about the motion to vacate with just one person being able to trigger that?

00:02:14.940 He's handcuffed himself in a lot of ways.

00:02:16.560 So that's been in place many times in the past.

00:02:19.680 It was just in a different political culture when it wouldn't occur to anyone to do it, and that's the kind of thing that I'm referring to.

00:02:25.960 You know, if Leader McCarthy gives Republicans an opportunity to demonstrate their principles, passes what legislation he can, and then ends up having to negotiate something less than what's ideal from a Republican point of view,

00:02:40.740 for the obvious reason that Republicans don't control all of government, does that precipitate the one individual?

00:02:48.440 And by the way, that could come from the other side, right?

00:02:50.080 A Democrat could decide to file the motion to vacate the chair.

00:02:53.780 We'll see how people react when it comes to that, if it does.

00:02:59.140 I mean, you've been raised in a culture of reasonableness.

00:03:03.800 You know, when you know when you've lost a fight and when the government is going to default and it could precipitate a global meltdown,

00:03:09.100 you know what the stakes are.

00:03:10.080 And you had principles about fiscal sobriety that were very important to you, but you went along with a couple of comments.

00:03:16.760 Well, you voted against the debt ceiling raise.

00:03:18.580 Oh, I did, and I disagree with the characterization.

00:03:21.480 I understand it's universal that if we don't raise the debt ceiling by a particular date, we'll have this financial crisis.

00:03:27.480 That will not happen, and let me just tell you why.

00:03:29.500 It's very simple.

00:03:31.520 The disaster scenario that people talk about is defaulting on our debt, defaulting on our sovereign debt,

00:03:38.460 the securities that are the basis of the capital markets around the world.

00:03:41.520 The interest payments on our debt adds up to about $400 billion this year, according to the CBO.

00:03:49.360 Tax revenue alone is almost $5 trillion.

00:03:52.640 A Treasury secretary would have to willfully decide that I'm going to precipitate a default on our debt.

00:03:58.560 But we did get downgraded.

00:04:02.340 It cost us. 0.79

00:04:02.880 That was ridiculous. 0.92

00:04:03.680 It cost us. 0.87

00:04:04.240 But that's the marketplace. 0.98

00:04:05.720 Ridiculous. 0.85

00:04:06.280 So it cost us a couple of billion dollars. 0.93

00:04:08.280 It was a couple of firms that privately made that decision.

00:04:10.960 There's going to be no default on the debt, even if we go past the date.

00:04:14.320 The worst thing that would happen is some vendors wouldn't get paid on time.

00:04:17.600 They'd have to wait.

00:04:18.560 And that's not ideal.

00:04:19.480 And a shutdown is expensive.

00:04:20.720 And a shutdown, it'll be a partial shutdown.

00:04:23.480 Not ideal.

00:04:24.700 But I think you do have to weigh this in the context of a completely unsustainable fiscal mess that we're in.

00:04:32.540 100% debt-to-GDP ratio right now growing rapidly.

00:04:38.520 This is not sustainable.

00:04:40.020 And it's unreasonable for President Biden to say, I refuse to even negotiate about this.

00:04:44.420 Well, that's a strategy.

00:04:46.620 You know that's a strategy.

00:04:47.620 The Trump tax cuts, some would say, contributed to all of this.

00:04:51.120 And then COVID and the big spending.

00:04:52.980 So the tax cuts of 2017 that you referred to as the Trump tax cuts ushered in tremendous economic growth, record low unemployment, wage gains that were outpacing inflation.

00:05:03.540 And today, Andrea, the federal government's taking in more revenue, tax revenue, than was projected prior to the tax reform.

00:05:10.220 So it's clear that the tax – and by the way, total revenue is above the historical average as a percentage of our economy.

00:05:18.300 Corporate tax revenue above the historical average.

00:05:20.920 So the tax reform of 2017 has been terrifically pro-growth and constructive.

00:05:26.680 Not a problem here.

00:05:30.520 Wow.

00:05:32.040 Thursday is the afternoon show, 19 January, Year of Our Lord, 2023.

00:05:37.060 We are – it is – we've crossed the Rubicon.

00:05:40.500 But note to – you know, you just put Haley Jackson onto the streaming service. 0.99

00:05:45.260 Note to self, Andrea Mitchell is so out of her depth. 0.94

00:05:50.180 That should be taught in journalist schools about someone who has no earthy idea what she's talking about, not prepped.

00:05:56.520 And boy, Toomey, who's a gentleman – I'm not a Toomey fan.

00:06:00.080 He's not a fan of the war room.

00:06:01.200 He's certainly not a fan of Trump.

00:06:04.140 Bench-pressed her on how to just teach her some – just very basics and fundamentals.

00:06:08.940 We're going to play that interview maybe again tomorrow because – and I got Philip Patrick here from Birch Gold.

00:06:16.600 You've heard these concepts before in the war room now for months and months and months.

00:06:20.360 But two things.

00:06:22.320 Number one, we are not going to default on the debt. 0.98

00:06:26.080 Anytime you hear that on – about paying past bills, it's all crap spin and it's lies. 0.96

00:06:31.620 He nailed it right there. 0.60

00:06:32.740 We take in about $4.5 to $5 trillion now given inflation and the growth came out of the Trump tax cuts.

00:06:41.640 The payments are $400 billion.

00:06:43.420 They may go up to a trillion this year.

00:06:44.740 But there's plenty of cash coming in at all times to pay the interest payment and to pay any amount – face amount of the debt that has to be paid off.

00:06:51.860 There is additional money, plenty of cash coming in to pay Social Security and Medicare.

00:07:01.040 Those are off the table.

00:07:03.500 So there's not going to be a default.

00:07:05.760 There's not – the only way it could be a default if the Secretary of the Treasury under Biden's guidance specifically deemed that she was going to default on the debt and that's on them.

00:07:20.140 Number two, the word – wait for it – sustainability – this is not a – she tried to trap Toomey in everything.

00:07:29.360 This is not a sustainable model.

00:07:31.280 It is not a sustainable model.

00:07:33.520 It is not a sustainable model.

00:07:35.380 Philip Patrick, that was a – Toomey who's no MAGA fan basically made the case for why we have to confront this today, sir?

00:07:44.340 I think he did a very, very good job of it.

00:07:47.980 And this idea of the U.S. defaulting on debt is quite frankly a fear-mongering technique used.

00:07:53.960 And it's not reality.

00:07:55.480 But I think he said a few interesting things.

00:07:57.520 So we're sort of a very tough situation, right?

00:08:00.140 The Republicans rightly are insisting now on massive spending cuts before they agree to raise the debt ceiling.

00:08:06.060 What I find very odd is the position of the Biden administration, right?

00:08:10.580 They're saying they're only willing to accept the debt ceiling hike without conditions that there will be no negotiation.

00:08:17.520 Now, this may be a position, as the interviewer suggested, but for me, it's bizarre to come to the table with that mindset.

00:08:25.200 Look, this isn't an argument about abortion or gun control, right?

00:08:29.000 Whichever side of the fence you sit on, you stick to your perspective.

00:08:32.040 We're talking here about fiscal discipline.

00:08:36.200 This isn't a binary issue of principle.

00:08:38.800 We're talking about balancing the books.

00:08:40.820 And to come to the table unwilling to negotiate is bizarre and, quite frankly, an indefensible position.

00:08:47.260 The Biden administration now are issuing no more than an ultimatum, demanding a blank check to spend taxpayer dollars completely uncontrolled.

00:08:56.840 And it's insustainable, as you say.

00:08:58.560 But, Philip, hang on.

00:09:02.380 They have no interest in the balanced budget.

00:09:04.880 That's where their initial position is.

00:09:07.020 There's no negotiation.

00:09:09.180 It's got to be clean.

00:09:11.860 You've got to raise it in no negotiations.

00:09:13.860 And we're not going to give you any information.

00:09:15.760 That's the thing I keep asking.

00:09:16.680 Where's the model?

00:09:17.940 What are we talking about?

00:09:19.280 She says it's June.

00:09:20.440 Well, how do we know that?

00:09:21.480 That's in her letter.

00:09:22.780 And she's a little daffy to begin with. 1.00

00:09:24.420 And she's made a few bad calls.

00:09:25.880 Philip Patrick.

00:09:26.420 Well, information doesn't support their argument.

00:09:29.520 So why would they provide us with real information?

00:09:32.280 The reality is it's what we said, right?

00:09:34.940 This is they're pushing a political agenda.

00:09:37.080 But I want to say something.

00:09:38.420 Look, we've got a showdown coming.

00:09:40.260 Both sides.

00:09:41.040 It looks like at this point they've drawn a line in the sand.

00:09:43.980 It's sort of classic brinkmanship.

00:09:46.060 But, you know, what's at stake here, quite frankly, is everything, right?

00:09:50.300 The debt ceiling is the only check we have essentially on infinite government spending,

00:09:54.740 right?

00:09:54.920 The Federal Reserve can monetize an infinite amount of debt.

00:09:57.560 They can print an infinite amount of dollars.

00:09:59.660 But the problem is our leadership has been running the nation's credit card bill every

00:10:04.360 single year since 2001.

00:10:05.820 That was the last time the income exceeded expenditure, right?

00:10:09.680 And it cannot last forever.

00:10:12.020 This path leads to one place, one place only.

00:10:15.080 And that is a loss of global reserve currency status.

00:10:18.040 It's hyperinflation.

00:10:19.300 And it's total economic collapse.

00:10:21.040 So we need to have this fight today, right?

00:10:23.960 We've got to stop pretending that taxpayer dollars are monopoly money.

00:10:27.700 This idea that you can spend all you want and we'll just print more, it's not a viable

00:10:32.920 fiscal strategy.

00:10:34.120 It is not sustainable.

00:10:35.600 So what we have to do, and I know you push this all the time and you're absolutely right,

00:10:40.140 we have to stop deficit spending today, period, right?

00:10:44.860 And we've got to find a way to pay down that debt.

00:10:47.220 Now, when you're paying down a colossal debt, there's three ways to do it, right?

00:10:50.920 One, you raise taxes, which nobody wants.

00:10:53.240 And particularly when you have an administration you cannot trust to spend the money wisely.

00:10:57.700 You've got to print money, which got us into this position in the first place, or there

00:11:02.100 has to be austerity.

00:11:04.300 And that, for me, is the solution.

00:11:06.060 The Dems may not want to compromise their welfare state special interests, but it's the

00:11:10.500 only reasonable solution that's not going to decimate hardworking Americans.

00:11:14.900 So we have to fight this fight.

00:11:17.140 It is the most important fight of the Biden era, and we must win.

00:11:21.220 Our future is at stake.

00:11:22.540 I have not been more passionate than this one.

00:11:25.020 This is our opportunity, and we need to grab it.

00:11:30.580 You do understand, Philip, that because we're already called extremists, they're going to

00:11:35.400 come for this audience.

00:11:37.360 And if you take the hard line on this, which we must take, if you're a hardliner, or I call

00:11:44.380 it a dead-ender, right?

00:11:45.800 Absolutely.

00:11:46.720 Here's the increase we're going to give in the debt ceiling.

00:11:49.160 Zero.

00:11:50.300 You know, we played this thing from The Godfather this morning.

00:11:52.540 In fact, you pay for it, Senator Gary.

00:11:54.300 We're not giving anything.

00:11:56.100 And they've got a link in the Federal Reserve.

00:11:58.160 How tough is this going to get?

00:11:59.460 It's the fight of our time, because everything else revolves around this fight.

00:12:03.100 The increase of the Leviathan, the administrative state, in every part of your business, in every

00:12:08.320 part of your life, calling you domestic terrorists.

00:12:10.660 It's all financed by this.

00:12:13.000 Philip, your perspective from British Columbia, how tough do you think this fight's going to

00:12:16.340 get?

00:12:16.520 But it's going to get tough, and they don't want to relinquish control.

00:12:20.340 And the fact that we're called extremists, because we're talking, think about what we're

00:12:24.160 pushing for here.

00:12:25.180 We're asking for spending cuts.

00:12:27.280 We're asking to spend money responsibly.

00:12:29.520 That's an extremist mindset?

00:12:31.500 I don't think so.

00:12:32.580 Look at the agenda being pushed.

00:12:34.200 Look at this woke, liberal agenda.

00:12:36.240 Listen, I'm in California.

00:12:37.900 There's tons of liberals out here. 0.95

00:12:39.940 They don't really, they're not pushing that either.

00:12:42.940 This is a very small section of society, but they've got a lot of power.

00:12:46.240 This is going to be a very tough fight.

00:12:48.600 This is the year to do it, and I think this is the issue to stand firm on.

00:12:52.480 So let's see what the Republicans are made of.

00:12:54.800 Let's see if McCarthy can stand his ground.

00:12:56.880 If he can, it's very important to the future of this nation, but it's going to be a tough

00:13:01.540 fight.

00:13:02.460 It's going to be a tough fight.

00:13:03.880 We are, you know, Philip mentioned about the dollars of prime reserve currency that

00:13:07.940 even gives us the ability to do this.

00:13:09.660 We've got another in our series coming out, the end of the dollar empire.

00:13:12.620 You're going to want to get it, but I want people to get information now.

00:13:16.160 It's time you owe it to yourself and your family to immerse yourself in information about

00:13:22.040 shifting out of paperback IRAs and 401ks and looking at gold back.

00:13:27.520 Where do people go, Philip?

00:13:28.680 Because now more than ever, folks need to do this because ladies and gentlemen, this is

00:13:32.700 going to get a little choppy.

00:13:34.660 This is going to get a little choppy.

00:13:36.660 And you're going to be called, you're going to be demon.

00:13:38.460 You think you've been demonized before about elections?

00:13:40.260 You ain't seen nothing yet.

00:13:41.640 You're about to be big time demonized.

00:13:43.740 So where do they go, Philip?

00:13:45.740 Very simple.

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00:13:49.460 That's going to get access to the guides you've written, Steve, as well as guides on how to

00:13:53.600 invest in precious metals.

00:13:55.740 And you can reach me on getter at Philip Patrick.

00:13:59.940 But information is key.

00:14:01.460 It's going to be a tough fight, as you say, Steve.

00:14:03.640 So, you know, this is the year.

00:14:06.460 So thank you.

00:14:07.060 Thank you for having me.

00:14:07.860 You know, it's a, it's a, it's a tough fight.

00:14:10.400 We crossed Rubicon, but guys like Toomey and he was an investment banker.

00:14:13.320 He understands he put out more truth there in a couple of minutes on MSNBC.

00:14:17.060 This has been put out in so many different places outside the war room.

00:14:19.900 He laid it out right there.

00:14:21.660 Only Biden's secretary of treasury can, uh, can, uh, default on, uh, on the national debt.

00:14:28.540 Only her.

00:14:29.600 She got plenty of cash.

00:14:30.940 Philip Patrick.

00:14:31.760 Thank you.

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00:14:39.960 Thank you, sir.

00:14:41.180 Thank you.

00:14:43.580 We're working in the part.

00:14:44.840 We're working now on part three in our series about the end of the dollar empire.

00:14:48.680 Short break.

00:14:49.780 Dr.

00:14:50.240 Seb Gorka joins me next in the war room.

00:14:53.020 Will the lack of a red wave during the midterms lead to a more emboldened Biden, more wasteful

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00:16:05.080 No, the intelligence community warned the president that Giuliani was being fed disinformation

00:16:10.720 from the Russians.

00:16:12.600 It's just what it is.

00:16:13.540 It's a smear campaign because he has nothing he wants to talk about.

00:16:16.760 What is he running on?

00:16:18.700 What is he running on?

00:16:20.820 I wish you would interview Joe Biden like you interview me.

00:16:23.840 He's walking with ice cream.

00:16:25.840 And the question the media asks him, what flavor ice cream do you have?

00:16:28.820 And he's in the midst of a scandal.

00:16:30.460 He's not.

00:16:31.000 And he's taking...

00:16:32.180 He's not.

00:16:32.760 Of course he is.

00:16:33.280 No.

00:16:33.740 Come on.

00:16:34.380 There's no real evidence of that.

00:16:36.220 Of course there is.

00:16:36.840 It's all over the place.

00:16:38.060 You know, this is 60 Minutes.

00:16:39.400 And we can't put on things we can't verify.

00:16:42.780 And you won't put it on because it's bad for Biden.

00:16:44.360 We can't put on things we can't verify.

00:16:46.320 Leslie, they spied on my campaign.

00:16:48.080 Well, we can't verify that.

00:16:48.780 It's been totally verified.

00:16:49.820 And it is now my great honor to introduce the president-elect, Joe Biden.

00:16:59.860 Well, sorry.

00:17:01.360 We're going to fight for the people.

00:17:02.740 Just a matter of counting the votes fairly.

00:17:05.620 As far as evidence is concerned, we have the evidence.

00:17:08.620 And it's in the form of 75 plus million voters and counting.

00:17:12.240 There's nothing they have to raise any questions whatsoever about this election in the legal process.

00:17:17.360 They simply have no evidence.

00:17:19.240 They have to come forward with evidence of fraud and problems, which despite multiple

00:17:24.360 opportunities to do so, they have no evidence and they will not be able to stop this process.

00:17:29.800 There's breaking news here.

00:17:31.480 Wait for it.

00:17:32.360 Classified documents.

00:17:33.800 Whoa, baby.

00:17:35.440 The White House today is struggling again to answer questions about the possible improper

00:17:39.940 handling of classified documents dating back to the Obama administration.

00:17:44.420 His name is Bob Bauer.

00:17:46.120 Now he's Joe Biden's private lawyer.

00:17:48.800 That means Joe Biden can confide in him and say to him, oh, by the way, I took those

00:17:53.800 classified material and I sold them to China.

00:17:57.680 None of this makes sense.

00:17:59.180 I mean, this idea that we sent in lawyers without clearances and told them, look, but

00:18:04.440 don't read is not a standard you'll find in any security protocol.

00:18:09.280 The question is why?

00:18:10.380 The White House counsel was the one to go and facilitate the documents, to look for the

00:18:15.760 documents.

00:18:16.700 Dana Remus, we want you to remember her name.

00:18:18.740 She's the one rummaging around in the closet for top secret documents. 0.96

00:18:22.340 How does 8 August, how does the raid on Mar-a-Lago kind of pop up right after I think the White

00:18:27.500 House counsel says she's leaving in July and that she technically leaves, I think, in October?

00:18:31.760 Why is the DOJ and the FBI now coming forward with saying, and treasuring, saying, hey, here's

00:18:38.060 exactly what happened.

00:18:38.960 We know what's happening.

00:18:39.840 You guys can ask me this 100 times, 200 times if you wish.

00:18:43.520 I'm going to keep saying the same thing.

00:18:45.840 Boris Epstein.

00:18:46.820 This is everything that we have been told was true.

00:18:51.560 And everything that we've been screaming about from the mountaintops now is coming to the

00:18:55.200 forefront.

00:18:55.460 I want to bring in Dr. Seb Gorka.

00:19:01.020 Dr. Gorka, on a day where, you know, we cross the Rubicon, the debt ceiling, there's so much

00:19:05.800 going on, you get these investigations, all of it, all MSNBC is doing is that they can't

00:19:10.860 on the eve of the March for Life, of course, they're saying you can't find, they can't

00:19:16.140 find who leaked the Dobbs decision, Alex Baldwin shooting in New Mexico, and Santos as a Brazilian

00:19:23.620 drag queen.

00:19:25.040 That's literally what they're, they're not, they're nonstop, I mean, this, these people

00:19:28.780 are not even serious anymore, and I think that's the great thing about Max Evans over

00:19:32.540 there at Getter in these, in these videos he puts together, he shows like Leslie Stahl,

00:19:36.920 these people are liars, they'll look you right in the eye and lie.

00:19:39.680 Dr. Seb Gorka, this massive national security, the crimes around the national security scandal 0.98

00:19:45.760 to me are breathtaking.

00:19:47.560 Your thoughts and observations, sir?

00:19:49.400 Yeah, I don't know Max, but I'm going to follow him now because that, that, that SOT

00:19:54.820 was, was superb, that, that, that, that is the kind of thing that conservatives need to

00:19:58.580 do, that, that's what the GOP should be doing, but never will do, because they have no idea

00:20:02.360 on how to control narratives.

00:20:04.040 So, um, I had a long chat today with somebody who was the only honorable special counsel in

00:20:10.220 the history of that office, uh, and his wife, who is a former staffer of the Senate Intelligence

00:20:16.640 Committee working for Barry Goldwater, you know who that is, that's Joe DeGenevin, Victoria

00:20:20.980 Tunsing, people who have been targeted by the FBI and Biden's DOJ.

00:20:25.220 And, you know, I, I just, I wanted a sanity check from them on the Biden file scandal.

00:20:29.880 And here we go, here it is from the horse's mouth, people who know of what they speak,

00:20:34.680 who have been fighting the swamp creatures for literally decades.

00:20:38.400 Look at the timing of how this broke, the four hits after one another pen, the garage, the

00:20:44.700 private library, and on and on and on the rapidity with, with, which that occurred.

00:20:49.800 And firstly, how the lawyers were sent into the office space in DC where no skiff, nothing 0.94

00:20:58.580 except a locked closet.

00:21:00.660 They, their supposition, and it bears water for me is that somebody, there is an insider.

00:21:07.600 There is a Biden insider who has the receipts, knows what happened, where the documents were

00:21:15.160 for that 12 month interregnum between vice president Biden, leaving the white house and

00:21:21.080 the pen think tank for Biden being created.

00:21:23.580 And they are taking him down.

00:21:26.300 Why is the analogy to the plumbers relevant?

00:21:28.800 Because this is the reverse of the plumbers.

00:21:31.600 It's not the coverup after the fact from Dean.

00:21:34.820 This is the coverup from the get go.

00:21:37.600 Nobody sends lawyers to move boxes of papers.

00:21:41.440 They were sent there without a clearance to use the cover of client attorney privilege to

00:21:48.280 hide what those documents were about and what they were being used for.

00:21:52.400 So if, if look, I, they've never done me wrong.

00:21:55.640 If Joe and Victoria are right, this saga will accelerate.

00:22:00.280 It will get even more expansive and it's taking him down.

00:22:06.440 Yeah.

00:22:07.400 Look, the, uh, unlike other scandals where it's always the coverup, I say, forget all

00:22:12.800 the stuff they're hitting you with right now.

00:22:14.220 Just drive the stake into the ground in, uh, on two November.

00:22:19.140 And that's why I say Dana Remus, the white house council.

00:22:22.180 How does she announce she's leaving in July?

00:22:24.840 And then she kind of leaves, I think in September, October, she's her personal lawyer.

00:22:29.560 And, and Mar-a-Lago in the timeline, Seb, how does Mar-a-Lago, they're having a negotiation.

00:22:36.080 They're, they're going back and forth in negotiation.

00:22:38.140 The archivist, I guess, calls and all of a sudden he got jackbooted, uh, SWAT team FBI

00:22:43.560 all over Mar-a-Lago when they're negotiating.

00:22:46.220 And yet the, the, the, the archivists, they supposedly call the archivists on November 2nd

00:22:51.540 and we don't hear about it until January.

00:22:54.080 How, how does that work?

00:22:55.340 How does Mar-a-Lago fit into your timeline here, sir?

00:22:58.600 Well, Mar-a-Lago.

00:23:00.220 So here's the beauty.

00:23:01.320 And I hope the left is listening.

00:23:04.200 I'm sure media matters is listening.

00:23:06.000 So Steve, I hope you concur with me, but I'm going to go out on a limb here.

00:23:09.500 The, the, the beauty of what we're dealing with here is if you know strategy, if you know

00:23:15.860 the intelligence community, if you've had a clearance, I still got my top secret SCI,

00:23:21.400 John Kelly.

00:23:22.380 Hey, if you're listening, you failed.

00:23:24.740 You tried to strip me.

00:23:26.160 I hired my lawyers and I still got it. 0.93

00:23:28.720 You are an insult to Quantico.

00:23:30.660 You were never a Marine. 1.00

00:23:32.280 Go to hell, John Kelly. 1.00

00:23:34.000 Um, so these people are bad. 1.00

00:23:38.960 They're bad, but they're also arrogant in their ignorance. 0.99

00:23:43.420 They think that raiding Mar-a-Lago is going to be a great cover for what Biden, Hunter, 1.00

00:23:52.540 the garage, the documents about Ukraine is going to reveal, but they're so stupid that 0.99

00:23:58.360 they can't even differentiate between the presidential records act. 0.98

00:24:02.540 That is not a criminal statute.

00:24:04.260 It is a civil statute and the espionage act.

00:24:07.680 And the fact that no vice president has the authority to declassify any document and you

00:24:13.480 can't keep them in your garage just because you have the Corvette defense.

00:24:17.760 So I don't know if you agree, Steve, but for me, these are wicked people.

00:24:21.820 They're destroying America. 1.00

00:24:23.600 They hate Western civilization, but they're pretty imbecilic at the same time. 1.00

00:24:28.340 And that's why we will win. 0.99

00:24:29.600 Well, it's just, they're arrogant because they think they, yeah, but they're all, they're

00:24:34.280 not, but they're not clever. 0.99

00:24:35.060 They don't have a brain among them. 0.83

00:24:36.520 I mean, seriously, rice is supposed to be the mastermind. 0.90

00:24:39.460 Has rice ever done anything in the last 30 years that has impressed you in terms of actual

00:24:45.880 intellectual heavy lifting, Steve? 0.72

00:24:48.000 Name me one thing that any of these clowns have done that whether it's left-wing or not 0.91

00:24:52.940 has been geopolitically impressive. 0.96

00:24:55.240 I don't mean graft, I don't mean grift, I don't mean stealing, but demonstrates a knowledge

00:25:01.080 of, of, of strategy.

00:25:03.700 I don't see it.

00:25:06.620 Didn't, didn't push back when Russia took Crimea from Ukraine in 14, they were smart enough.

00:25:11.760 Think that you can leave Bagram.

00:25:12.840 But I digress.

00:25:13.420 Think that you can, I digress.

00:25:15.000 I digress.

00:25:15.920 Right?

00:25:16.540 Go ahead.

00:25:17.020 Leave the only strategic airbase in Central Asia for the Taliban. 1.00

00:25:21.600 I mean, these people, these people are really stupid, which is also dangerous. 1.00

00:25:26.560 I mean, arrogance and ignorance is a, is a dangerous mixture. 1.00

00:25:31.460 They avoided a shooting war with Russia because they just surrendered all the time until Trump

00:25:35.460 got there and braced them up.

00:25:37.160 I want to go to, cause you break in some news here about the 12 months.

00:25:40.340 People are forgetting about that.

00:25:41.860 It did the, the CCP pen Biden center is the, is the last place they were, but that there was

00:25:49.060 years between, so, you know, I don't know how many people, you probably got a huge amount

00:25:54.460 of, of prior service or active duty guys listening to your show, but for everybody else who's

00:25:59.480 not familiar with this arcane wilderness of mirrors, that is the IC handling this.

00:26:04.620 So there's a striation of, of, of, you know, from confidential to top secret SCI code, code

00:26:09.780 word program, queue clearance for, for nuclear, but it's a system.

00:26:14.940 It's a system that is predicated on one person and one person alone.

00:26:17.760 The classification and clearance system of the United States serves one man and one man

00:26:22.880 alone, the commander in chief.

00:26:24.400 That's why it exists.

00:26:25.560 The intelligence community is there to help the current incumbent president make decisions

00:26:31.060 about foreign policy and national security.

00:26:32.960 It serves him and no one else.

00:26:34.160 That is why if president Trump says ID, ID classified all, including the North and nuclear

00:26:39.120 launch codes, his verbal statement is the act of declassification.

00:26:44.400 That's how much this is a, a unipolar system in it.

00:26:49.560 If you have a classification system, you're not allowed to read it unless you filled out

00:26:54.540 an SF 86.

00:26:55.420 My one, cause I was born in the UK have foreign, you know, relatives, my bloody SF 86 to work 1.00

00:27:01.080 in the white house with you was 76 pages long, right?

00:27:03.800 Cause you have to write down every foreigner, you know, and what connection they are.

00:27:08.100 You have to fill out an SF 86.

00:27:09.940 The FBI has to do a background check and then you have to be cleared.

00:27:13.340 You have to have a need to know, especially on compartment information and you can't read

00:27:18.660 it unless you're in a skiff, unless you are in a, a, a room that is sealed from the world

00:27:24.220 with a Faraday cage that cannot be penetrated by electronic communication.

00:27:28.300 You cannot take your phone in there.

00:27:30.540 And if you are taking a document from one skiff to another, it has to be locked in a

00:27:36.280 locked courier pouch, not next to the old paint cans in your garage.

00:27:43.980 Seb, just hang on for one second.

00:27:45.460 I know you got a bounce, but I just got another question on the other side.

00:27:48.500 Ben Berquam and the team are down in the Darien Gap.

00:27:51.640 We've got Rasmussen here to talk about polling, about what America thinks about the invasion

00:27:57.120 on the Southern border.

00:27:58.260 All next in the war room.

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00:29:29.960 Here's your host, Stephen K.

00:29:32.060 So, Seb, you talked to Joe and Victoria, and there couldn't be two better guys, two

00:29:39.620 better folks to talk to.

00:29:40.760 Tell me, where do you see this going over the next days and weeks, and where do you want

00:29:44.660 to see these committees jump in here?

00:29:47.000 All right.

00:29:47.520 So, a little bit of an intel scoop that I'll share with you guys.

00:29:50.780 But first, if you haven't seen it, I've just reposted it on my Twitter account.

00:29:54.580 You've got to see that absolute loser, Tony Blair, former prime minister of the UK at the

00:30:00.380 WEF, telling the world that we need a global digital database on who's vaccinated and who 0.89

00:30:08.660 isn't.

00:30:10.080 Watch the video.

00:30:12.300 Top of my Twitter feed, Seb Gorka, S-E-B-G-O-R-K-A, Seb Gorka.

00:30:16.760 So, here's the bad news.

00:30:18.020 Um, certain sources today told me that, allegedly, Jim Jordan's subpoena power as the chairman

00:30:26.100 of the Judiciary Committee, the man responsible for the subcommittee on the weaponization of

00:30:30.360 the FBI and the DOJ, his subpoenas must be cleared by Kevin McCarthy.

00:30:36.380 I hope that is not the case.

00:30:38.620 I would like journalists, real journalists like Breitbart journalists who are listening

00:30:42.560 to dig into that.

00:30:43.860 And if it's true, we need to put pressure on the speaker, maybe have a, one of the first

00:30:48.920 votes to vacate the chair because you cannot have Jim Jordan's judiciary chairmanship power

00:30:54.480 undermined by Kevin McCarthy.

00:30:57.240 Where does it have to go?

00:30:58.100 Look, I'll be deadly honest with you.

00:30:59.800 We don't have DOJ.

00:31:01.160 We don't have FBI.

00:31:02.660 There is a cell in the basement of Congress, but we're not exactly going to order the Sergeant

00:31:07.180 of Arms to arrest people and put them in the cell, even though I would like that to

00:31:10.400 happen for clearly criminal violations of the U.S. Constitution.

00:31:15.000 But we have to get the information out.

00:31:17.080 We have to have 24-7, we have to have real committee hearings where you hand over the

00:31:24.760 laptop copies that you and Rudy have, and we go through it all.

00:31:28.780 China, the uranium deal with Hillary, the Operation Crossfire Hurricane that targeted you, me,

00:31:36.120 General Flynn, we have to have all of it uncovered because just the getting out of the information,

00:31:42.120 it's like, how powerful were those four days of debate?

00:31:45.500 How many Americans woke up to the reality of what's going on in D.C. simply because six

00:31:51.880 plus 14 people decided to be patriots for four days?

00:31:55.540 We need to do that.

00:31:57.200 Not for four days.

00:31:58.280 We need to do that for two years.

00:31:59.760 So by the time the election comes around, people are baying, baying for the swamp to

00:32:06.000 be drained and for somebody to come in with a flamethrower and dismantle the administrative

00:32:10.980 state.

00:32:11.720 That's the best we can hope for, but it can be done.

00:32:14.780 But no, no filters for subpoenas, and we go after everything.

00:32:19.360 The CCP, Hunter Biden's laptops, the Ukraine deals, the Burisma, all of it, Steve.

00:32:25.120 Two years.

00:32:26.100 Let's begin now.

00:32:27.660 Well, Seb, how do people follow you, the content, your social media, all of it?

00:32:34.600 All right.

00:32:34.940 We're everywhere except the fascistic YouTube, so we're on Truth Social.

00:32:39.040 We are on Twitter, Facebook, Instagram.

00:32:42.160 Usually it's Seb Gorka, S-E-B-G-O-R-K-A or Sebastian Gorka.

00:32:46.600 The website is sebgorka.com where you can listen to the radio show.

00:32:50.180 And the newest one is Substack.

00:32:53.320 So if you want unique content, buy me, it's my name in one word, sebastiangorka.substack.com.

00:33:00.220 That's sebastiangorka.substack.com.

00:33:03.180 And of course, every Thursday here on The War Room.

00:33:08.760 Thank you very much, Dr. Gorka, and thank you for carving time away to do this every Thursday.

00:33:12.480 Appreciate it.

00:33:13.500 Always, buddy.

00:33:14.180 Thank you.

00:33:16.580 By the way, Lou Dobbs is going to be putting up a podcast, I think, this evening.

00:33:21.060 I had spent time with Lou Dobbs on many of these topics.

00:33:24.080 We'll push that out as soon as we get that, too.

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00:34:07.800 Let's go to, I want to go down to the Darien Gap.

00:34:10.380 We've got Oscar Blue Ramirez, Ben Burquam.

00:34:13.840 Guys, I'm glad to see you back.

00:34:15.360 You were in with the tribes today.

00:34:16.420 Tell us, give us an update.

00:34:19.640 Hey, yeah, Steve.

00:34:20.740 So we just got back.

00:34:22.040 We were down with the Guna tribe. 0.99

00:34:24.240 They're one of the tribes that run the Comarcas.

00:34:27.240 They have a, basically, it's them and the Embara on the other side of the Darien Gap.

00:34:31.400 And they invited us into their village.

00:34:32.980 They are pissed, to put it bluntly.

00:34:36.140 These guys are, you know, you talk about indigenous people.

00:34:38.600 While Davos is going on, while these climate change Nazis are running around the world pretending that they care about the environment and the climate.

00:34:44.840 This is what we found down there.

00:34:46.360 We've got some footage of this beach that has just been completely trashed.

00:34:50.840 We're down here with Matt Braddock, and he came up with the term Paradise Trash.

00:34:54.480 It's absolutely what happened.

00:34:56.220 But it's not just the trash. 1.00

00:34:57.520 This trash is from these illegals that have invaded their land. 1.00

00:35:01.280 But it's not just the trash. 1.00

00:35:02.680 It's the misery, the suffering, the sexual assaults, all of that stuff coming. 0.89

00:35:08.200 The violence that's coming along with it, the pandemic, malaria, they are just destroying these communities.

00:35:15.260 And the Democrats and the open borders left could care less.

00:35:18.400 Yes, it's a copy paste of what is happening in other countries also.

00:35:21.960 But ultimately, over here, there is a tribe that they want to preserve their culture.

00:35:26.200 Number one, their culture.

00:35:27.180 And this mass migration has interfered with their culture, and it is just contaminating the whole beach. 0.98

00:35:33.640 And also, they have been cutting the coconuts.

00:35:36.120 The coconuts, it is their main industry of transportation and also commerce with Colombia.

00:35:41.260 And the migrants have been cutting the coconuts of the trees and affecting them enormously and entirely in their commerce with Colombia. 1.00

00:35:48.640 One of the leaders of this tribe has told us, mass migration, we didn't want it.

00:35:53.400 It came to us, and as it was coming to us, we didn't know how to stop it.

00:35:57.860 And now it is just the whole territory is just damaged with all trash.

00:36:01.980 We're going to be linking back up with more of the Guna tribes over the next couple days.

00:36:06.340 So go ahead, Steve.

00:36:07.820 But hang on.

00:36:09.060 The footage is unbelievable.

00:36:11.280 The UN, and I thought these NGOs, are all about indigenous people and particularly about the environment.

00:36:15.880 I mean, this is absolutely – they've destroyed it there.

00:36:18.720 And are the people feel like they're being pressured to allow these migrants just to come through their native lands, their territory?

00:36:28.440 And who's defending them?

00:36:29.660 Who's defending the indigenous people? 1.00

00:36:31.500 It's exactly – it's exactly like the Hispanic community on our southern border. 0.99

00:36:38.060 They feel completely abandoned.

00:36:41.060 Nobody cares about them.

00:36:42.380 Nobody's coming to their defense.

00:36:44.500 Nobody's helping them out.

00:36:45.640 All of the money that's coming down through Joe Biden and Secretary Mayorka's controlled flow process is going to the NGOs to increase the flow.

00:36:56.520 These tribes are getting none of it.

00:36:59.220 It's just – it's shocking.

00:37:04.320 Oscar, how do people – give me your coordinates.

00:37:07.100 How do people get to you on social media?

00:37:08.620 Because this footage is unbelievable.

00:37:10.060 I know you've got a lot more of it.

00:37:11.360 I want everybody to see it.

00:37:12.740 We'll have you guys back on tomorrow.

00:37:13.920 I know you're going back in for some of the other tribes. 0.53

00:37:16.240 But this is a tragedy, what's happening to this tribe, these indigenous people that are basically having their way of life destroyed by this.

00:37:24.620 And it's only going to get worse.

00:37:26.220 Oscar, first you and then Ben.

00:37:29.600 Oscar Blue on Getter.

00:37:30.600 Oscar Blue on YouTube.

00:37:31.960 Oscar Blue on Twitter.

00:37:32.860 Oscar Blue on Ramirez.com.

00:37:33.960 And Real America's Voice News, sir.

00:37:35.100 Steve, this – what we're getting, the footage we're getting right now is – it's too much to even describe.

00:37:41.120 We're going to be doing several specials, law and border specials on it.

00:37:44.160 So stay tuned for that on Real America's Voice, americasvoice.news.

00:37:47.180 And on my social media, you can find that at benburquam and frontlineamerica.com.

00:37:53.140 It shows you what an important service you're doing for everybody, for the world, to show what's going on there.

00:37:58.320 And particularly the thing that's most tragic in every country, it's the little guy.

00:38:02.680 It's the little guy that – that have their community, have their village, have their store, have their family.

00:38:07.300 It's the same everywhere.

00:38:08.620 Exactly the same everywhere.

00:38:10.320 Guys, thank you so much.

00:38:11.740 Honored to have you on here.

00:38:13.180 You can get the team.

00:38:14.720 That's the Real America's Voice investigative team doing work that NHK, BBC, CNN, nobody will do.

00:38:23.040 Let's go.

00:38:23.380 I really want to thank Mark Mitchell for coming on for Rasmussen.

00:38:27.140 Your poll today, I think the numbers are pretty shocking.

00:38:30.080 Walk through what you guys are finding out about polling the American people, what they think about border security, the invasion of the southern border.

00:38:37.520 And I want to put this in perspective.

00:38:39.200 There's a bunch of Republican senators right now working with Democrats.

00:38:42.760 They went to the border about a week ago.

00:38:45.280 The word up here is they're working on another amnesty plan, another amnesty plan.

00:38:49.480 And a couple of these are people that President Trump endorsed.

00:38:52.660 They've taken that endorsement, misused it, lied to voters, and now they're up here working on an amnesty program.

00:38:59.120 The Senate, they're going to try to put forward.

00:39:00.780 You watch.

00:39:01.220 It's coming.

00:39:02.880 Mark Mitchell, tell me about the Rasmussen poll, sir.

00:39:06.660 Yeah, absolutely.

00:39:07.960 A quick note on border.

00:39:09.440 We poll that issue all the time.

00:39:11.020 It's one of Biden's lowest issues.

00:39:14.360 And every two weeks, we poll our Immigration Index, which asks nationwide Americans their feelings about our stances on immigration.

00:39:22.880 And Americans generally are very, very anti-legal immigration.

00:39:27.940 They support things like border walls.

00:39:29.620 They support things like E-Verify.

00:39:31.620 And even with legal immigration, they support lower levels of legal immigration.

00:39:36.380 But that index has been tracking those views over the past two, two and a half years.

00:39:40.900 And it's interesting to see how this swings.

00:39:43.160 So people were a lot softer on immigration when Trump was in office.

00:39:46.300 And the second that November 2020 happened, the index swung incredibly the other way.

00:39:52.780 And it's been tracking in the mid to low 90s.

00:39:56.580 And then over the last month has just broken down in a major way.

00:40:01.200 So things that Americans have seen in the last, you know, two to four weeks are really driving opinions toward things like legal immigration much harder than they've been in the past.

00:40:13.780 But some of the great numbers I have today are actually kind of about the next step, specifically about what's happening with Biden now and his document case gate.

00:40:24.380 And also the next step, impeachment and what Americans think about that.

00:40:28.560 Yeah. So what astounding.

00:40:31.780 Hang on, hang on, hang on.

00:40:33.460 Before I get to that, is there any event that's happened in Alaska?

00:40:37.300 Is Biden going to Mexico?

00:40:39.020 It was more of people understand the invasions going on.

00:40:41.540 It's what's happening in El Paso.

00:40:43.140 Is that the events you think that even got people more focused on this and harder in their beliefs?

00:40:49.320 I've noticed over the last really two months, a lack of sensitivity towards Biden approval to things that are happening in the news.

00:40:57.320 I think part of that was there was just a huge, you know, sigh after November and people saying, you know, disengaging, having holidays, election cycle more so than that.

00:41:08.800 And I don't think if it I don't think it's it certainly played in his favor.

00:41:12.600 We didn't really see a bounce from his border trip.

00:41:14.780 But if anything, the optics of that one specific picture of him on the wall, I don't think certainly helped him at all.

00:41:21.760 And then really in the last three days, Biden approval has started plummeting.

00:41:26.940 You know, I think we're down three points from where we were a week ago.

00:41:30.100 And so something's stuck to that.

00:41:33.160 Walk us to walk, walk, walk, walk us through your latest polling about the investigations, all of it and how it's impacting Biden.

00:41:39.900 Yeah, absolutely.

00:41:40.680 And, you know, our numbers with Biden approval, they've been relatively elevated, 46, 47, 48 over the last month, month and a half.

00:41:47.760 I think part of that was the glow of the victory, so to speak.

00:41:51.620 But still, if you compare year over year with Trump, he's at parity or slightly below where Trump was.

00:41:57.500 Trump for the last three years of his term was mostly 48 to 51, 52 and really didn't deviate much outside of those bounds at all.

00:42:05.800 And of course, we know Biden was down to 37s and has been sitting at low 40s for most of his term.

00:42:11.120 We're back down to 44 today.

00:42:12.920 We've had a couple of overnight 40 readings.

00:42:14.800 And I think it's this document situation that's really, you know, it's sad to say it, but voters are pretty sensitized to the issues of classified documents being mishandled by people in D.C.

00:42:30.000 And I'm really glad to come on and talk about this particular situation here because at the tender age of 22, I was cleared top secret PSYOP SCI.

00:42:40.560 And that's the stuff where if you lose it, you're going to Leavenworth, right?

00:42:43.740 And yet here we've had this issue come up multiple times.

00:42:48.540 And if you remember, even before Trump, I'm sure you remember the days of the DOJ getting involved, the FBI getting involved in Hillary's email gate and famously coming out and making a statement.

00:43:00.000 What was it, a week before the election?

00:43:02.240 A lot of people, a lot of voters were really upset about that.

00:43:04.480 So there's history here.

00:43:05.960 But, well.

00:43:08.260 Mark, just hang on one second.

00:43:10.220 We've got to take a short break.

00:43:11.720 We're going to come back.

00:43:12.360 We have Mark Mitchell of Rasmussen.

00:43:14.220 Also, Jason Jones, one of the leaders of the Right to Life movement on the March for Life tomorrow.

00:43:22.420 Next in the Word.

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00:45:52.560 At 6 o'clock, Joe Allen and I are going to break down Davos and particularly artificial intelligence.

00:45:57.540 You're not going to want to miss this.

00:45:58.820 We've got a bunch of clips on what's happening in Davos.

00:46:00.720 And this will scare you to your core, what they're talking about already, in generative artificial intelligence.

00:46:09.080 Very scary.

00:46:09.840 You need to watch and go through all the clips we got in the commentary and analysis of the Joe Allen, our editor for all things transhumanism.

00:46:19.060 Mark Mitchell, I'm going to turn it over to you.

00:46:20.880 You've got a couple of minutes.

00:46:21.880 Your analysis here and polling is very important about the direction where we're heading, sir.

00:46:29.020 Or take it away.

00:46:29.960 Yeah, I think there's a huge opportunity for public opinion to swing big here.

00:46:33.600 So the first question, I want to run through three real quick, is we asked approval of Merrick Garland's investigation into Biden's handling classified documents at his home in Delaware in the office of the D.C. think tank.

00:46:46.300 And voters, bipartisan, and overwhelmingly support the investigation.

00:46:51.600 So 77% of Republicans, 74% of Democrats, and actually 81% of independents.

00:46:58.320 And for Republicans, it's 57% strongly approved.

00:47:01.380 Democrats, it's 44% strongly approved.

00:47:03.720 So I think American voters do not like seeing classified documents mishandled.

00:47:09.500 They expect better of their politicians in D.C.

00:47:12.860 And even with the very, very, very poor view that Republicans have of the FBI and the Department of Justice, they're happy to see this thing go right on ahead.

00:47:22.940 And even Democrats support Biden being investigated.

00:47:25.560 Now, whether that's they think he has nothing to hide, whether that's they think the fix is in, I can't say.

00:47:32.360 They have relatively very high opinions of the FBI and the DOJ right now.

00:47:37.220 So but the other is we freshened up that question that we love to ask about how likely is it that since he became president, Joe Biden has committed high crimes and misdemeanors that would justify impeachment proceedings against him.

00:47:50.100 And for the very first time, a small majority of Americans actually say it's likely.

00:47:55.980 So we're up to 51% now.

00:47:57.780 And the numbers have been ticking up over the last couple.

00:48:00.000 We've asked it three times.

00:48:01.200 I think it was 49% and then 50.

00:48:03.320 Now it's 51%.

00:48:04.400 So a majority of American voters think that the sitting president has committed impeachable offenses while in office.

00:48:12.060 And 34% of voters say it's very likely.

00:48:15.500 But what's surprising is, you know, you'd expect the Republican number to be high.

00:48:19.520 It is.

00:48:19.940 It's 72% who say it's at least somewhat likely.

00:48:23.080 But it's 47% for independents.

00:48:25.120 And the Democrat number has really swung big.

00:48:28.280 It's up to 34%, with 20% of Democrats saying that it's very likely he committed impeachable hot crimes and misdemeanors.

00:48:36.880 And so the other one to bring back is, you know, we've talked about this before on your show, but it's a truth.

00:48:43.960 We asked this most recently in September.

00:48:46.700 Remember, do you support or impose impeaching President Biden?

00:48:50.460 And 53% of majority of voters support it.

00:48:52.920 38% support it strongly.

00:48:55.340 One-third of Democrats, including 20% who strongly support it, support impeaching the president of their own party.

00:49:02.160 51% of majority of independents.

00:49:04.740 And 77% are Republicans.

00:49:06.780 So I hear a lot of talk about investigations in Capitol Hill.

00:49:10.900 American voters have, by and large, been ready for impeachment for a very long time.

00:49:14.680 And it has nothing to do with the handling of classified documents.

00:49:17.740 It has to do with things like the border in Afghanistan.

00:49:21.600 Wow.

00:49:22.440 Amazing.

00:49:23.300 Mark, what's the social media?

00:49:24.680 How do they get to YouTube channel?

00:49:26.000 How do they get to all of it?

00:49:27.440 Yeah, we're on most of the socials, but come follow us on Twitter.

00:49:30.060 It's our freshest feed.

00:49:31.240 Everything we post, we post there.

00:49:33.120 We have a really good Twitter feed.

00:49:35.020 We post all our stories, all our videos, and then often things like firsthand accounts of actual election fraud because it's important to us as pollsters.

00:49:45.640 Mark Mitchell, thank you for doing this blockbuster poll.

00:49:48.120 We'll make sure we push it out.

00:49:49.420 Thank you, sir.

00:49:50.100 All right.

00:49:50.600 Thanks, Steve.

00:49:50.960 Jason Jones, you've been a leader of the Right to Life movement for many years.

00:49:58.120 I think you've gone to March for Life, I think, 20, 25 years.

00:50:00.600 Tell me about the march that's going to take place tomorrow, sir.

00:50:04.360 Yeah, Steve.

00:50:04.900 Well, first of all, thank you.

00:50:06.080 I mean, this is the first March for Life in a post-Role America, and you play a big part in this reality.

00:50:12.700 And it's something that a lot of Americans felt that was unbelievable.

00:50:15.000 I've been coming here since I was really right when I got out of the military as a young infantryman in my 20s when my high school girlfriend's father beat her up and forced her to have an abortion.

00:50:24.280 That's sort of my inciting incident into politics.

00:50:26.320 I've been coming every year since.

00:50:28.420 And here we are now in a post-Role America.

00:50:31.240 And the pro-life movement is the largest, most passionate social movement in the history of our country where we're fighting astroturf. 0.96

00:50:39.600 This is the most organic movement in the history of our country.

00:50:42.260 So I'm here really to say thank you.

00:50:45.200 Thank you to the millions of pro-lifers that have worked for decades.

00:50:48.500 Thanks to you, Steve Bannon.

00:50:49.960 Thanks to the Federalist Society, Susan B. Anthony List, all these organizations that have worked so hard for so long.

00:50:55.400 Thank you, President Trump.

00:50:57.280 And it's going to be a big day tomorrow.

00:51:01.740 We're going to have you, Mo Bannon, Chris Carter, REV, going to be coverage.

00:51:05.960 We're going to cover the prayer meeting at the beginning with Father Pavone.

00:51:09.240 We're going to do a pregame right before the launch.

00:51:10.960 We're going to get Jason Jones back on.

00:51:12.940 But I've got about a minute.

00:51:15.040 You've been coming for 25 years.

00:51:16.900 What's your thoughts about this massive march that takes place versus what's happening in the states, sir?

00:51:21.840 Well, this is, to me, my big thank you.

00:51:24.060 But I think in future years, I'll be in blue states.

00:51:26.760 The overturning of Roe v. Wade Dobbs was the first milestone into a culture of life.

00:51:30.740 There are many, many more milestones to go.

00:51:33.020 And I believe that it's going to be a rope-a-dope strategy.

00:51:37.700 The next two or three years, we might take some knocks.

00:51:41.160 But going forward in the next decade or so, I think we'll be leaving to our posterity a country where the most vulnerable members of the human family, the child in the womb, will be protected from violence from the very beginnings, the beginning of our biological beginning through life.

00:51:56.240 But this is a big year.

00:51:58.000 How do they get to your podcast and your writings?

00:52:01.960 We're going to cover you tomorrow.

00:52:03.040 How do they get to your podcast and writings?

00:52:04.300 My podcast is The Jason Jones Show.

00:52:06.340 I write for James Robeson's The Stream.

00:52:08.920 And my getter is The Jason Jones Show.

00:52:13.800 Jason, look forward to seeing you tomorrow.

00:52:15.420 Thank you for coming on.

00:52:16.340 Jason Jones, one of the leaders of the Right to Life movement, March for Life.

00:52:20.400 Captain Bannon, we're going to have Chris Carter, Real America's Voice, Wall to Wall Coverage, Jason Jones, Father Brevon, others.

00:52:27.220 Short break, six o'clock.

00:52:30.260 Our own Joe Allen, you do not want to miss this.

00:52:33.900 We're going to break down Davos and we're going to break down artificial intelligence.

00:52:37.660 And we're going to say how it's going to impact your life immediately.

00:52:41.700 Next, in the War Room.

00:52:43.020 We will fight till they're all gone.

00:52:45.520 We rejoice when there's no more. 0.95

00:52:47.440 Let's take down the CCP.

00:52:50.320 We'll be right back.

Bannon's War Room - January 20, 2023

Episode 2456： The Fight Over The Debt Ceiling

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