Bannon's War Room - January 21, 2023


Episode 2460： March For Life： What The Future Holds; The RNC Doesn't Know Their Base


Episode Stats

Length

52 minutes

Words per Minute

178.77339

Word Count

9,389

Sentence Count

779

Misogynist Sentences

24

Hate Speech Sentences

8


Summary

The March for Life has come to a close, but the fight for abortion rights is far from over. On the streets of San Francisco, thousands of people gathered to protest abortion and the pro-life movement. In this episode, we talk to Father Frank Pavone, a Catholic priest, and Joe Biden, a conservative commentator.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 This is the primal scream of a dying regime.
00:00:06.780 Pray for our enemies, because we're going medieval on these people.
00:00:11.980 You're just not going to free shot all these networks lying about the people.
00:00:16.280 The people have had a belly full of it.
00:00:18.240 I know you don't like hearing that.
00:00:19.620 I know you've tried to do everything in the world to stop that,
00:00:21.380 but you're not going to stop it.
00:00:22.300 It's going to happen.
00:00:23.560 And where do people like that go to share the big lie?
00:00:26.980 Mega Media.
00:00:27.880 I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.
00:00:33.780 Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?
00:00:37.520 If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.
00:00:43.900 War Room. Here's your host, Stephen K. Vance.
00:00:52.020 So I will tell you first what feels different.
00:00:55.040 As you mentioned, we're living in a post-Rowe era,
00:00:57.300 and that was something that was met with applause every time someone took to the stage to say just that.
00:01:02.460 And then, of course, there are signs around here that say, I'm living in a post-Rowe generation.
00:01:06.680 And so for people who are here, these, of course, we know these are opponents to abortion rights.
00:01:13.120 And for them, when we asked them, hey, Roe was overturned,
00:01:16.640 we know that this was the platform for March for Life.
00:01:19.540 It was started the year after Roe v. Wade as a way to protest Roe v. Wade.
00:01:23.700 And so for them, my question was, so you're still here, what keeps you here?
00:01:27.800 And so what I'm seeing from both sides is they say they were galvanized by Dobbs in very different ways.
00:01:32.400 We had a chance to speak to both sides.
00:01:33.880 Take a listen.
00:01:34.300 Students for Life of America was founded as a post-Rowe organization
00:01:40.820 because we always envisioned this day when it would happen, not if Roe would be reversed, but when.
00:01:46.140 And now that it has, we've already mobilized thousands of students all over the country.
00:01:50.740 And so to think that, oh, our work is done, well, our work just begun.
00:01:56.160 Like, we've got 50 individual state-by-state battles that we need to tackle.
00:02:00.200 And even so, this is a culture war.
00:02:02.240 Like, the mission of Students for Life is not just to make abortion illegal.
00:02:06.080 It's to make abortion unthinkable.
00:02:10.900 And so there is a reason why their march takes them to the Supreme Court
00:02:15.100 and then right over here to the Capitol.
00:02:17.580 Because for them, they say this is where the next step is.
00:02:20.460 We know that abortion right now on a state level, roughly two dozen.
00:02:24.660 We're approaching the two dozen level states that have either banned or severely limited abortion.
00:02:30.140 We know that there are three.
00:02:31.080 There is an ongoing legal battle.
00:02:33.240 And the conversation around abortion and abortion access has dramatically changed.
00:02:37.520 We know the FDA has changed their guidance around pharmacies being able to dispense abortion pills,
00:02:43.340 which makes abortion access even easier.
00:02:45.780 So when it comes to the wins and losses here, Roe was overturned, as we know.
00:02:50.460 But then with that FDA guidance change, that was something that was seen as, you know,
00:02:55.460 a success for proponents of abortion rights.
00:02:59.300 So again, in terms of the mood here, Joe, I think the overall theme is that both sides are galvanized,
00:03:05.100 just in very different ways.
00:03:06.360 The work is far from over for them.
00:03:07.680 Both sides are galvanized.
00:03:11.000 Saturday, 21 January, Year of Our Lord, 2023.
00:03:13.820 We're going to go from the Vatican to Ukraine battlefield to the RNC fight to the vaccines,
00:03:22.100 the death and destruction of the VACs, all of it.
00:03:26.740 But we're going to start.
00:03:27.620 Captain Bannon is going to co-host with me for a while.
00:03:31.500 Thank you about the March for Life, also about the battle tanks in the Ukraine.
00:03:36.020 Let's go first to Father Frank Pavone.
00:03:38.600 Father Frank, you can't join us in studio this morning because you had to fly out of here last night.
00:03:43.460 And you're at, I believe it's the second largest March for Life in the country.
00:03:48.040 People will be very surprised where it is.
00:03:49.780 Tell us where you are, sir.
00:03:51.440 Hi, Steve.
00:03:52.260 I'm in San Francisco.
00:03:54.200 We got in here late last night.
00:03:56.000 And today, you're right, it's the second largest March for Life in the country every year.
00:04:01.060 It's called the West Coast Walk for Life.
00:04:04.080 And it'll be getting underway in a few hours.
00:04:06.420 Steve, what we're going to do first this morning is go to Planned Parenthood.
00:04:09.680 As soon as I finish speaking with you, we'll be going over to Planned Parenthood, doing the protests there.
00:04:15.520 Then we're going to have another one of those silent no more gatherings, which concluded the march yesterday.
00:04:20.720 Men and women who've lost children to abortion speaking out, sharing their stories.
00:04:24.440 And then we'll have the rally, and we'll be walking tens of thousands through the streets of San Francisco, doing exactly what we did yesterday in Washington, bearing witness to life.
00:04:36.720 Talk to us, you know, yesterday, we've got Terry Schilling and Jason Jones who are going to come on a little later.
00:04:41.900 But give me your perception of, because there's been this controversy, the March for Life has always been the biggest event in the calendar for the pro-life movement.
00:04:50.040 What was your take on the energy yesterday and the commitment at the federal level?
00:04:55.120 We understand people are talking about the states, but what is your assessment of where the March for Life, the annual event, goes from here?
00:05:01.820 I think the energy level was similar to what it has been in past marches.
00:05:07.800 The folks that were marching realized that there's work to do on the federal level.
00:05:12.660 At this point, a lot of it is defensive.
00:05:14.940 You know, we're creating a block to the extremism of the Democrats, what the Democrats want to do on abortion.
00:05:21.500 They want to just get rid of all the state limits.
00:05:23.860 And, you know, I was talking with a number of the members of Congress yesterday who were marching, and we were talking exactly about that, that, you know, obviously we can't get any pro-life laws passed in the next two years.
00:05:35.200 We're going to have to do well in the 2024 elections.
00:05:38.120 But we could certainly put a roadblock up to what the other side wants to do.
00:05:42.440 And people, we can never tire of reminding people what it is they want to do.
00:05:46.300 They want to not only codify, they say codify Roe v. Wade, they don't even know what they're talking about, because Roe v. Wade itself allowed the states to limit and even prohibit abortions at certain stages.
00:05:57.040 But what they're trying to say is we want abortion to be a fundamental right in the law, no exceptions, no restrictions, right through birth.
00:06:05.220 And so the members in Congress, they need to be blocking that.
00:06:08.980 And what they also want to do by means of those proposals is to take away all the pro-life measures that are out in the states, including parental involvement laws, which most states have, where a parent would be involved in an abortion decision of a minor-aged daughter.
00:06:26.320 So the energy was high.
00:06:30.420 There's still some need, I think.
00:06:32.140 You know, people were asking me, what's the next step for the movement?
00:06:34.680 I'll tell you what it is.
00:06:35.520 We have to fully understand what Dobbs said, because I don't think that the pro-life movement has fully absorbed and fully analyzed what Dobbs did and didn't say.
00:06:46.440 That's got to be the starting point.
00:06:47.960 And once we know that, we go to work.
00:06:50.880 And we are going to work in all the 50 states.
00:06:55.140 Well, I tell you what, we want to get you on next week and take some time and explain that, because that's the essential starting point.
00:07:00.700 What exactly was the ruling, what's the implications, and then how do you combat this on a state-by-state basis and at the federal government?
00:07:09.580 Father Brevon, we know you've got to go over to Planned Parenthood.
00:07:12.620 Thank you so much.
00:07:13.780 I know you got in late, and this is very early on the West Coast, but I think people are kind of surprised already.
00:07:18.220 I can tell you in the chat that San Francisco has the second biggest pro-life movement in the country.
00:07:23.980 That's old San Francisco.
00:07:24.960 That's the original San Francisco we know and love.
00:07:28.120 Father, how do people follow you today, and where do they go to get you at Priests for Life?
00:07:34.920 Okay, so it's FRFrankPavone on all the major social media platforms, FRFrankPavone, and we broadcast at endabortion.tv, endabortion.tv.
00:07:47.160 Thanks, Steve.
00:07:49.560 Thank you, Father.
00:07:50.760 Appreciate it, Father Frank Pavone.
00:07:52.220 I want to talk about the prayer service.
00:07:53.840 By the way, let's bring in Terry Schilling.
00:07:55.440 Terry, thank you, American Principles Project.
00:07:57.940 Mo, you were actually at the prayer service yesterday.
00:08:01.220 Was there a disruption?
00:08:03.480 There were a few disruptions, and at first you thought that people were just being moved by the Holy Spirit,
00:08:09.700 and then you realized when you actually listened to what they were saying that they were counter-protesters
00:08:16.220 and trying to disturb the prayer service going on.
00:08:19.580 Oh, so first you thought they were testifying, or people thought they were testifying.
00:08:22.660 There were a few Catholic nurses, actually, that thought they were testifying as well,
00:08:26.580 and then when they brought the words non-binary and transgender up, you knew that they weren't testifying,
00:08:32.400 that they were trying to disrupt the service, and they were escorted out, and nothing stopped us.
00:08:38.620 They actually came into Constitution Hall and disrupted a prayer service?
00:08:41.940 Mm-hmm.
00:08:42.160 There were probably about four or five of them.
00:08:45.080 Wow.
00:08:45.820 Nothing too low.
00:08:48.220 Terry, give us your assessment of what Father Pavone said.
00:08:51.360 First off, is Father Pavone right?
00:08:53.340 Does the life movement not fully understand exactly what the decision was to the Supreme Court
00:09:01.240 and the implications of that, sir?
00:09:03.540 No, that's exactly right, and thanks for having me, Steve.
00:09:05.420 Steve, so there's a big debate right now across the country.
00:09:09.300 Is abortion just a state's issue, or is this a both-and, right?
00:09:14.940 And I think that the real answer is that this is a both-and.
00:09:19.000 We need to use the states to protect as many lives as possible,
00:09:21.900 but at the end of the day, this is a federal issue.
00:09:25.320 Either you have a constitutional right to life or you don't,
00:09:28.620 and the thing is, you know, Benedict XVI passed away,
00:09:33.040 and he said that the right to life presupposes all other rights, right?
00:09:37.460 It's baked into the cake, and so we need to reassess our federal strategy,
00:09:41.640 our state strategy.
00:09:42.520 I love what the states are doing, right?
00:09:43.980 They're experimenting.
00:09:45.420 They're pushing the limits, and I think there's a lot to learn
00:09:48.740 at the federal level about this.
00:09:50.040 The problem, though, Steve, is that these federal legislators
00:09:52.960 are scared to death of this issue.
00:09:55.060 They view it as a losing political issue, so much to the point
00:09:58.720 where they don't even attack Democrats for their support
00:10:00.900 of late-term abortion.
00:10:01.840 That's one of the biggest problems for why we didn't have
00:10:04.260 as big of wins in 2022 as we should have.
00:10:07.760 But, no, Father Pavone's right.
00:10:09.980 There's a big question as to where the pro-life movement goes.
00:10:14.820 But hang on.
00:10:15.920 Ronna was on yesterday and said that, in fact,
00:10:18.160 she was at the prayer service.
00:10:20.460 She actually gave a short talk in saying that we're the pro-life party.
00:10:23.720 Talk to me about it, because even President Trump came out with that,
00:10:26.840 you know, hey, it's rape, incest, the big three, I think he called it.
00:10:32.020 How did these politicians get spooked?
00:10:34.500 Because President Trump's done more than any president ever
00:10:37.040 about this issue since he got the three Supreme Court justices
00:10:40.940 that have basically swung it, and those were not easy fights.
00:10:43.780 He had every opportunity to back off, and he would not.
00:10:47.760 Why are people concerned?
00:10:49.560 Are they not getting the message?
00:10:50.860 Because you can definitely tell they're definitely gun-shy.
00:10:54.840 And I think it's guys like Lindsey Graham just coming in
00:10:56.620 and dropping that thing that time he wanted the federal law.
00:10:59.300 I think that that was done for other reasons than supporting this.
00:11:03.420 So it looks like a mess up here in Capitol.
00:11:05.760 At least it looks for me on the political side.
00:11:09.660 There's no messaging.
00:11:10.880 People are gun-shy.
00:11:12.680 They got, as they say about quarterbacks, they got happy feet.
00:11:15.020 They don't really want to take a stand on this, which was not what it was before the ruling.
00:11:19.520 Am I misperceiving this, sir?
00:11:23.380 No.
00:11:23.980 You know, it reminds me a lot of the Obamacare fight, right?
00:11:27.180 Republicans in the House, I think they voted over 150 times to repeal Obamacare.
00:11:31.740 But then when it was time to actually get the job done, they failed to do it.
00:11:36.640 And I think that's very similar with abortion.
00:11:38.780 When it didn't matter, Republicans were totally fine voting however way they had to.
00:11:45.080 But the moment that the heat turns up and things start to get a little bit dicey,
00:11:50.160 these guys are all pointing to their 100% pro-life record and then saying, you know,
00:11:54.060 but this just isn't the time to do it.
00:11:56.280 And they want to punt back to the state.
00:11:58.180 Steve, a pro-life movement without a federal solution is not a pro-life movement at all.
00:12:02.860 And frankly, it's because the left will never stop trying to codify Roe.
00:12:07.520 They'll never stop trying to force abortion access in all of the states, including the red states.
00:12:13.260 This is ultimately a federal fight, regardless of what the political tactics are from these strategies.
00:12:19.760 It's mostly the consultant class, Steve.
00:12:21.340 They look at this issue of abortion as something that only works with the base.
00:12:25.740 They don't believe it works with Latinos and Hispanics and voters that we really need to win back.
00:12:30.900 But the reality is that Democrat voting people, they don't know how extreme their party is.
00:12:36.600 They don't know that Democrats want abortion in the ninth month when the baby's eight pounds in the womb, funded by tax dollars.
00:12:43.560 And we need to do a better job of making sure the American people know, voters know, just how extreme the Democratic Party is.
00:12:49.560 When you talk about extreme, how does this inform their whole policy about coming after the family?
00:12:56.520 Because I believe with you that the centerpiece of what we have to have going forward is the American family, the economics around it, the protection of it, the cultural aspects of it.
00:13:06.880 The Democrats are radical in abortion, but they're even as radical about destruction of basically the nuclear family, sir?
00:13:14.000 Yes, no, that's exactly right.
00:13:16.620 Abortion is pivotal in their fight to abolish the family, right?
00:13:21.420 Humanity has been built on unplanned pregnancies, to put it lightly.
00:13:26.160 But what happens when you actually have a baby and you get married is you're forced to, for the first time in your life, to really grow up, right?
00:13:34.180 Your life becomes much less about you and almost entirely about your spouse and your newborn child.
00:13:42.160 And what the left is trying to do is they're trying to coddle Americans and extend our childhood into our 30s, right?
00:13:49.340 You really don't – you really can't understand life until you have children.
00:13:56.240 And you don't start living for other people.
00:13:58.140 You don't start thinking about your community.
00:13:59.600 All of this is tied together in the abolition of the family.
00:14:03.600 Abortion is their premier sacrament in trying to destroy this country and trying to destroy the family.
00:14:10.260 How do we get to – how do people get to American Principles Project and you, Terry?
00:14:15.020 It's just AmericanPrinciplesProject.org, or you can find us across the web on my social media.
00:14:21.380 It's shilling1776.
00:14:23.500 I have a pretty funny video on my Twitter right now.
00:14:26.640 It's pinned to the top – the top five things I've had to apologize to my wife over.
00:14:30.640 It's all true, and I think people will appreciate it.
00:14:35.640 Terry Schilling, thank you very much.
00:14:37.800 By the way, you had another great video the other day too.
00:14:40.340 We'll put it up later.
00:14:41.400 Terry Schilling, thank you very much for joining us.
00:14:43.740 Thanks, Steve.
00:14:44.160 Okay, we've got Mo Bannon.
00:14:48.060 We're going to add Jason Jones, John Fredericks, Naomi Wolf, Todd Benzman, Rebecca Koffler, Ben Harnwell, and others.
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00:16:20.420 Is the, tell me about Henry Barber, his role in this, because he's, he's, correct me if I'm wrong, he's a renowned never-Trumper, right, anti-Trumper.
00:16:28.060 Is he in charge of what, the audit or the candidate audit?
00:16:31.060 How does, how does, because I think he's a consultant also.
00:16:34.060 Do you have a, you have consultants like that actually in charge of these things in reviewing this?
00:16:39.640 Henry's an RNC member from Mississippi.
00:16:41.480 I don't know, I don't know of Henry as being a consultant, so, but, but he's a member of the RNC, and I don't think he's a never-Trumper either, but.
00:16:51.020 Let's bring in Henry Barber.
00:16:52.560 He's a Republican National Committee member.
00:16:54.620 Yes, I'm proud on New Day to endorse Marco Rubio for president.
00:16:58.140 Is that enough for Rubio to stop Donald Trump's momentum?
00:17:01.240 At the end of the day, we've got to win the White House, and Marco Rubio is our best contrast with Hillary Clinton.
00:17:06.420 The reason that President Trump lost those voters in the suburban areas was just the division.
00:17:13.560 You know, people, people got tired of it.
00:17:16.960 Let's go, Henry's not an ever-Trumper.
00:17:19.140 Okay, let's, I don't think so.
00:17:20.520 Nine states, I think there's, Tennessee, Texas, and Arizona, among six others, have voted no confidence in that they either support Harmeet or they want a change of leadership.
00:17:31.620 How does that, how does that set with you?
00:17:33.280 You know, I think there's been a lot of misinformation put out from Harmeet's campaign.
00:17:37.920 You say Harmeet's putting out false information.
00:17:40.340 Can you give us a highlight reel of that?
00:17:42.880 Oh, you know, I'm not going to go down to that level, but there's been a lot of false information out there.
00:17:47.880 Yeah, but when you say false information, is she lying about you?
00:17:51.160 I think there's been a lot of lies about me, yes.
00:17:55.260 And the top one or two lies, you know, about you would be what?
00:17:59.840 Well, I think just the beginning of that, a lot of the stuff about the spending has been misinterpreted.
00:18:06.900 Do you believe that President Trump won in 2020 and was stolen, and rightfully, since he got 74 million votes, that he is the rightful nominee and we've got to take another shot at this or we've lost everything, every purpose as a party?
00:18:17.960 I've been, I mean, listen, I think there were all types of problems in 2020.
00:18:22.400 You know, you have Carrie Lake on your show all the time, but coming out of her gubernatorial debate, gubernatorial race, her opponent wouldn't endorse her.
00:18:29.800 You had a Republican mayor in Mesa say, I'm not going to support her.
00:18:34.340 You had the former state party chair in Arizona start a pack against her.
00:18:37.880 And guess what?
00:18:38.900 We didn't win that governorship.
00:18:40.560 So, and it's mainly because of Republican on Republican infighting.
00:18:43.920 Carrie Lake, I think, is one of the most magnificent candidates we've had, and there's no doubt, when you look at the math, she won.
00:18:49.080 Was there any, did you have a conversation with Robeson?
00:18:50.940 Did you ever tell Robeson and these people the exact speech?
00:18:53.320 Did you give Robeson and say, you've got to come in?
00:18:54.620 Well, I certainly talked to Doug Ducey.
00:18:56.300 But I didn't call every candidate across the country and say, are you going to do that?
00:18:59.540 I'll do that going forward, sure.
00:19:01.040 Are you open to be in this debate that Harmeet and Michael Dell have already agreed to?
00:19:04.660 You know, this is such a ridiculous, fake, this is another fake news lie.
00:19:08.520 I have to conduct business at the RNC.
00:19:10.380 I've got meetings all day.
00:19:11.760 I mean, we're going from 7 in the morning until 11 at night every night.
00:19:14.960 So that's what our schedule is going to be, and it's booked.
00:19:19.240 Are you open to be in this debate that Harmeet and Michael Dell have already agreed to?
00:19:24.540 You know, this is such a ridiculous, fake, this is another fake news lie.
00:19:27.380 This person put out a debate, John Frederick says, oh, we're going to do a debate.
00:19:30.620 And I have to conduct business at the RNC.
00:19:33.520 I've got meetings all day.
00:19:35.340 And he says, here's this time, and she's not doing it.
00:19:38.080 They never asked me.
00:19:39.700 They never cleared it with my schedule.
00:19:41.860 So this is part of the misinformation, folks.
00:19:43.960 Just pay attention, you know.
00:19:46.120 I was never, ever asked to be part of that debate.
00:19:49.420 And I can't.
00:19:50.540 If Real America Voice comes to you and says, hey, give us an hour on your schedule that's free no matter the time of day, would you be open to that?
00:19:59.720 In California?
00:20:01.480 No.
00:20:01.740 We're going to have a forum there.
00:20:03.280 And this is gone.
00:20:04.540 I've been on your show.
00:20:05.480 We're going to have a forum and a process there in front of the members.
00:20:09.060 But don't throw a debate on me at the last minute and say, oh, now she can't do it when it's already in a pre-scheduled meeting that I'm running.
00:20:15.120 I mean, we're going from 7 in the morning till 11 at night every night that we're in Dana Point.
00:20:20.260 So that's what our schedule is going to be, and it's booked.
00:20:23.100 And I'm conducting.
00:20:27.500 John Fredericks joins us now.
00:20:29.440 John Fredericks, what a meanie.
00:20:31.780 Did you actually call her or talk to her office and see the time's available?
00:20:37.860 Or did you just go ahead and do a typical John Fredericks move and just scheduled it, just booked it, sir?
00:20:43.640 Of course we alerted her, Steve.
00:20:47.600 So, look, when you've lost five races in a row and you've spent an ungodly amount of money on nonsense and your donors are abandoning you on a daily basis like Bernie Marcus, etc.,
00:21:02.040 all you have is a platform of lies.
00:21:05.720 Of course we reached out to her campaign.
00:21:08.400 Of course we reached out to Emma Vaughn.
00:21:10.760 Of course we reached out to Johanna Persing.
00:21:14.620 We picked that time because National Committee woman from Virginia, Patty Lyman, said,
00:21:22.560 here's the day and time where everybody is available because it's a meeting of executive directors of the states that no one has to be at.
00:21:31.100 So that's why we picked the time.
00:21:32.880 Of course we invited her, just like we invited Harmeet and Mike Lindell.
00:21:37.100 Both of those accepted immediately.
00:21:38.980 By the way, they had seemed to have no conflict with it.
00:21:42.980 Now we're told, oh, they never got invited.
00:21:45.540 Yes, they did.
00:21:46.480 They never bothered to respond because they don't care about you or me or anybody listening to this show.
00:21:52.900 They care about their politburo handing out their favors, the consultants they've paid money to,
00:21:59.540 and that's what their re-election campaign is based on.
00:22:03.140 And look, we're going to go forward with this debate.
00:22:05.100 I talked to Harmeet the other day and she's like, well, if Ron is not going to be there, I'm not going.
00:22:09.820 I said, hey, okay, you know what?
00:22:12.560 Mike Lindell's going.
00:22:14.000 Guess what?
00:22:14.560 That's good enough for me.
00:22:15.740 So we're going forward.
00:22:17.000 We have this debate offside.
00:22:18.400 It's two miles away at the Marriott Residence Inn, 1 p.m. to 2.15 on Wednesday, pack time.
00:22:26.180 And the reason why we're having it there, oh, it's offside.
00:22:28.200 You can't have it offside.
00:22:29.920 It's $75 to park.
00:22:32.020 This is supposed to be about the grassroots.
00:22:34.900 You go to the Marriott Residence Inn, two miles away.
00:22:38.320 Guess how much parking is?
00:22:40.100 Free.
00:22:40.780 You park your car in a parking lot.
00:22:42.580 You come in.
00:22:43.520 Mike Lindell's going to be there.
00:22:44.820 We're open to the public.
00:22:46.000 They want to send somebody, fine.
00:22:48.000 They don't, fine.
00:22:49.600 But we're going forward because our base, the grassroots, is sick and tired of being dictated to by the arrogance of these people and the elitism.
00:23:01.380 And if you looked at her interview on your show, and by the way, you were incredibly gracious in giving her three segments, 45 minutes at a time.
00:23:09.460 Very gracious, Steve.
00:23:10.740 Thank you for that.
00:23:11.980 But the arrogance that she has, right?
00:23:14.300 She doesn't have to answer to anybody.
00:23:16.220 And, hey, I came on War Room.
00:23:18.220 Therefore, it is, is what she says.
00:23:20.680 She's in a dogfight.
00:23:22.280 Harmeet's gaining traction every day.
00:23:24.420 And I tell you what, Mike Lindell has got votes.
00:23:27.300 These people are going around saying, Mike Lindell's got one vote.
00:23:30.240 That's a lie.
00:23:31.500 Six people minimum have to nominate him.
00:23:33.700 He's got a right.
00:23:34.700 And the kind of guy Lindell is, Steve, he said, hey, don't cancel this debate because Harmeet now doesn't want to go.
00:23:43.520 I'll go.
00:23:44.540 He said, tell you what, open the phone lines up, John.
00:23:47.940 I'll take phone calls.
00:23:49.480 I'll talk to anybody in America that's interested about what I'm going to do.
00:23:54.100 Now I've got the New York Times there, Politico there, Washington Post there.
00:23:59.080 It's true.
00:23:59.680 If Mike Lindell's the only guy there, Steve, God bless him.
00:24:04.160 We're never going to get change if we tuck tail and run away because elitists are dictating to us what to do.
00:24:14.160 Now, she thinks she's going to win.
00:24:16.040 She's got 110 votes, whatever.
00:24:18.140 Hey, talk is cheap.
00:24:19.880 Have the vote.
00:24:20.960 Lindell's going to be there.
00:24:22.300 Maybe Harmeet, maybe not.
00:24:23.860 I don't care.
00:24:24.900 We're going forward.
00:24:25.900 But what she said on your show about me, fake news, this is a total lie.
00:24:30.480 I'm trying to give our base access to what is going on just like you are.
00:24:36.940 And that's fake?
00:24:38.200 Are you kidding me?
00:24:39.020 That's the level of elitist arrogance and ego this woman has.
00:24:44.980 She needs to go down.
00:24:46.700 Reelecting her as chairman is going to destroy the party because you've already heard major donors are out.
00:24:52.520 They're not giving her any money.
00:24:54.180 Nobody's going to give her a dime going forward.
00:24:57.360 So, look, President Trump says he's staying out of it.
00:25:00.580 Good.
00:25:01.420 Guess what?
00:25:02.040 Not his fight.
00:25:02.980 You know who's fight this is?
00:25:04.180 Our fight.
00:25:04.940 This is not his fight or somebody else's fight.
00:25:07.340 This is our fight.
00:25:08.260 This is the donor's fight.
00:25:10.120 This is the grassroots fight.
00:25:12.180 These are the same people with dirt under their fingernails and calluses on their hands,
00:25:16.860 the blue-collar worker, Steve, of this country, who represent our movement.
00:25:20.780 This is the core of our movement.
00:25:22.560 And her attitude is, hey, go let them eat cake.
00:25:26.840 Go pound sand.
00:25:27.800 I don't owe you crap.
00:25:29.040 But, hey, keep knocking on doors for me.
00:25:31.840 Keep hanging out the stupid flyers that don't do anything.
00:25:35.100 And, hey, send that $25 a month.
00:25:37.320 I want your money.
00:25:38.560 I want your time.
00:25:39.700 But it comes right down to it.
00:25:41.460 I don't have an hour to speak to you.
00:25:44.020 Go to hell.
00:25:45.040 That's her message.
00:25:45.880 What about her point about, you know, Mike Lindell's divisive, Harmeet is attacking her, she's divisive,
00:25:54.240 that she's the only one that can unite, that she's the uniter to unite this.
00:25:59.480 And you saw the answers to the questions about ropes and what happened in Arizona around Cary Lake.
00:26:05.100 What are your thoughts about uniting all aspects of the Republican Party?
00:26:09.420 It's the exact opposite, Steve.
00:26:14.120 The only way to unite the Republican Party is by voting her out.
00:26:18.480 If she's in, the party is automatically divided.
00:26:21.540 She's already been abandoned by major donors of the party, led by the senior donor, kind of the grandfather of it all, Bernie Marcus and others.
00:26:36.240 She's already abandoned.
00:26:37.120 There's so many people not going to give her any money.
00:26:39.320 She's basically carved out the grassroots.
00:26:42.260 She doesn't even understand what her movement is, right?
00:26:45.700 It's all about, like, cosmetics and, you know, face jobs and how she looks on TV.
00:26:50.860 That has nothing to do with us.
00:26:52.740 We want to know how we're going to move this populist movement forward, which is made up, Steve, of working people that, guess what?
00:27:01.520 They can't get to the Waldorf Astoria.
00:27:04.580 That's $1,000 a night.
00:27:06.260 Why do they hold it there?
00:27:07.560 So you can't go.
00:27:09.140 Oh, you want to go in and see what's going on?
00:27:11.040 You got to pay $75 to park your car, right?
00:27:15.120 It's an exclusive resort.
00:27:17.380 That's why I went to the residence in at Marriott, two miles away.
00:27:22.220 That's where regular people go.
00:27:24.520 That's our base, Steve.
00:27:25.740 These are people that tune you in every day.
00:27:27.780 They tune me in every day.
00:27:29.260 That is the soul and the heart of our movement.
00:27:33.280 Ronna McDaniel doesn't understand even who her base is.
00:27:37.420 That's the shame of this thing.
00:27:38.500 She is the divisive candidate.
00:27:41.500 Lindell will bring us together.
00:27:43.200 Harmeet will bring us together.
00:27:45.160 She will continue to divide based on her attitude.
00:27:48.520 Here's her attitude.
00:27:49.680 Screw you.
00:27:50.460 I don't have an hour of my time.
00:27:52.260 I'm working from 6 to 11.
00:27:54.600 Oh, aren't I impressed?
00:27:56.120 You and I do that every freaking day, Steve.
00:27:58.640 I know you do, and you know that I do.
00:28:01.460 Every day.
00:28:02.100 Hey, I got an idea.
00:28:03.360 We'll have it at 6 a.m.
00:28:05.560 That's 9 a.m. Eastern.
00:28:07.040 Get up an hour early.
00:28:08.600 Do it at 6.
00:28:09.900 Get a plate of eggs.
00:28:11.220 John, hang on for one second.
00:28:11.740 We'll do it at 6.
00:28:12.940 I'm going to get a biscuit.
00:28:15.960 Just stick right there.
00:28:16.960 We're going to take a short break.
00:28:18.040 Jason Jones, John Frederick on the other side.
00:28:20.660 Your host, Stephen K.
00:28:22.300 Back.
00:28:22.580 Okay, we're already a little jammed up, but we've got Naomi Wolf on deck, Jason Jones.
00:28:30.360 I want to go quickly, John, back to you.
00:28:33.700 Look, Ron is there.
00:28:34.800 The 168 are the ones that voted at the end of the day, and I understand, and our audience
00:28:39.120 should continue to reach out to their state representatives, and those numbers have been
00:28:45.480 put up.
00:28:45.820 I think Steve Stern's done it.
00:28:46.800 We'll do it again this weekend, put it up and get it, so everybody's got access to those
00:28:50.300 people.
00:28:50.600 But is she wrong in saying, hey, John, I love what you're doing, and it's interesting,
00:28:55.800 but I've done enough shows.
00:28:57.200 I think there's going to be a candidate for him even there.
00:28:59.440 But my focus that those couple of days of the 168, the Grand Dunes, you know, the reality
00:29:05.140 is that week, the Grand Dunes don't count.
00:29:07.420 John Frederick's.
00:29:10.700 Sure.
00:29:11.240 If you want the modern day version of the Politburo, she's fine.
00:29:16.100 If you want the reality of what our party is made up of and our movement, this is the
00:29:20.360 exact wrong approach.
00:29:21.820 How do you think that 168 got there, Steve?
00:29:24.320 Hey, it starts in February now coming up.
00:29:26.820 Guess what we have to do?
00:29:27.820 Well, we have to go to a mass meeting on some Saturday, and God knows where, where we're
00:29:32.260 going to get a cup of Mr. Coffee and a donut hole.
00:29:37.460 That's a Saturday.
00:29:38.500 Five hours of our time.
00:29:39.660 Hey, that's fun.
00:29:40.340 Then, after that, we have to go to the county meeting.
00:29:44.000 That's all day.
00:29:45.620 Another stale cup of coffee and a Dunkin' Donuts.
00:29:49.180 All day we give up our time.
00:29:50.780 That's number two.
00:29:51.740 Then, number three, we got to go to your state convention, right?
00:29:55.920 Drive there.
00:29:56.820 Spend money in hotels.
00:29:58.500 We're there all day.
00:29:59.580 The air conditioner goes out.
00:30:01.180 Doesn't matter what state you're in.
00:30:02.480 It's all the same.
00:30:03.220 So, now it's just the third Saturday we have to give up voting for state committee man,
00:30:08.260 state committee woman, and state chairman.
00:30:10.300 So, we've given up three Saturdays, spent our money, done the work, and now your attitude
00:30:15.080 to us is, even though it's us that voted these 168 people in, we're not interested in
00:30:22.400 what you have to say.
00:30:23.700 I'm only talking to them.
00:30:25.100 By the way, I'm making my deals.
00:30:26.840 I've got people on certain committees.
00:30:28.800 They fly for free to certain things.
00:30:30.660 Hey, I've got consultants that are on the phone helping me.
00:30:33.620 It's all one big scam.
00:30:36.860 And what we've done is we've exposed it.
00:30:39.780 We've exposed the nonsense that they do.
00:30:42.180 We've exposed the money they spend.
00:30:44.460 And we're saying, we're done with the elitist.
00:30:48.040 This is our party.
00:30:49.380 We're the movement.
00:30:50.600 We're taking it over.
00:30:51.960 And you're not our leader.
00:30:53.660 That's what we're saying.
00:30:54.840 And all we're saying is, hey, come and give us an hour of your time.
00:30:58.120 She just said, oh, between 7 and a.m., I've got to work all the time.
00:31:03.420 Fine.
00:31:04.660 I'll change your time to 6.
00:31:06.520 Get up at 6.
00:31:07.500 Get up an hour early.
00:31:09.240 You can't get up an hour early for your entire grassroots base that supports the party,
00:31:15.340 that wants to know what you have to say.
00:31:17.500 That's not worth one hour of your time at 6 a.m.?
00:31:21.120 Do you promise hot, stale coffee in a Dunkin' Donuts hole if she does that?
00:31:29.780 I'll have to.
00:31:31.300 I can't.
00:31:32.180 We don't have the budget to buy them there.
00:31:34.680 We'll have to go off-site and get two boxes of Dunkin' Donuts.
00:31:37.860 But we can have it, right, for $18 or whatever, not for $500.
00:31:41.680 My son Joe and I had a cup of coffee in one of the big hotels in Tennessee.
00:31:48.820 We got the bill.
00:31:49.600 It was $13.
00:31:51.300 No, I can't do that.
00:31:52.840 But I'll break up.
00:31:53.520 Look, do it at 6 a.m.
00:31:55.140 Let's call out a bluff.
00:31:56.960 Do it at 6 a.m.
00:31:57.800 That's 9 a.m. Eastern.
00:31:59.040 That's when my show's on anyway.
00:32:00.700 Anyway, we're good to go.
00:32:02.640 You know who'd show up at 6?
00:32:04.540 Mike Lindell.
00:32:05.440 He'd show up.
00:32:07.180 Yep.
00:32:08.200 Big time.
00:32:08.600 John, how do people get to your morning show now that precedes Wyrm on Saturday?
00:32:14.280 How do they get to your regular show?
00:32:15.560 All your content.
00:32:16.420 Because this week, John Fredericks will be on location,
00:32:19.440 and it's going to be at Battle Royale at Dana Point, California,
00:32:24.220 down there at the formerly the St. Regis.
00:32:27.140 I think it's now called the Waldorf Astoria, sir.
00:32:32.180 Just follow me, all platforms, at JF Radio Show, at JF Radio Show.
00:32:37.720 This week, starting on Tuesday, I'm going to be on 3 to 5 p.m. Eastern.
00:32:42.140 I've got other people covering for me in the a.m.
00:32:44.060 because obviously we don't.
00:32:45.460 It's, you know, it's too early there.
00:32:47.660 So we're going to bring you all the action, 3 to 5 p.m. Eastern,
00:32:51.580 which is just leading into Steve Bannon.
00:32:54.000 That'll be on my show.
00:32:55.940 Plus, R.A.V. is going to be there.
00:32:57.440 So we're going to be giving you updates.
00:33:00.140 Steve, at JF Radio Show, go to Godzilla wins today, my best bet of the weekend.
00:33:05.060 I love the Cowboys, plus 4.
00:33:07.820 I think they go into San Francisco, win that game.
00:33:11.160 We don't know how good this team is.
00:33:13.420 We know how good San Francisco is.
00:33:15.540 They are what we thought they were.
00:33:17.080 We don't know how good Dallas is.
00:33:18.360 My favorite team in the National Football League is whoever's playing Dallas that week.
00:33:29.380 Now, come on, Texans.
00:33:30.660 Don't work with me on this.
00:33:32.700 John Fredericks, thank you very much, brother.
00:33:35.100 Appreciate it.
00:33:36.360 Appreciate it.
00:33:37.260 All right, Steve.
00:33:37.900 Thank you.
00:33:38.400 As an old Redskins fan.
00:33:41.020 Can I even say that?
00:33:41.880 Are we going to get pulled for saying Redskins?
00:33:45.000 Okay, Jason Jones.
00:33:46.300 We had Father Pavone on from San Francisco.
00:33:49.320 He flew out there for the march on the West Coast.
00:33:52.980 Schilling, we've had Mo Bannon.
00:33:54.920 What is your sense yesterday of the years that you actually said, hey, I've been doing this for 25 years.
00:34:00.100 This is my last march for life because I'm focused on the states.
00:34:04.320 Do you agree with this now after seeing the energy here in the nation's capital for all these young people, sir?
00:34:11.080 Yeah, I'm surrounded by young people now.
00:34:12.560 I'm at the Students for Life of America conference.
00:34:14.180 Steve, that might be a promise that I break, but what I meant in that article was we really need to professionalize our state organizations.
00:34:22.600 I'm going to be going to these blue states as we continue this battle to march to protect life from biological beginning from Maui to Maine.
00:34:31.160 But you're right, Steve.
00:34:33.740 The pro-life movement is the largest, most passionate social movement in the history of our country, and it is driven by young people.
00:34:39.760 And it is especially driven by young women.
00:34:42.800 And it's exciting to see.
00:34:44.120 So the idea of this being my last march for life after coming, really right when I got out of the military, I started coming as a young man in my early 20s.
00:34:53.020 The idea of not coming again after yesterday, I don't know.
00:34:56.840 But I guess if it conflicts with the march for life in Michigan or the march for life in Pennsylvania or the march for life in Ohio,
00:35:04.520 then I think I would have to choose attending the local march for life.
00:35:12.360 You know, we had Summer Smith on yesterday to kick off the show.
00:35:15.440 Summer's from Liberty University of the Students for Life.
00:35:18.640 Talk to us about the movement.
00:35:19.880 What's always gotten me since I came here with Andrew back in, I think, 2011,
00:35:24.200 what blew me away was the scale of this march and the youth of it, but particularly it's essentially young women.
00:35:31.680 I mean, I think 75 percent, two-thirds at least, are young women that are really at the tip of the spear of this.
00:35:37.040 Talk to me about that.
00:35:39.740 Yeah, in fact, right now, Steve, you can't see they're off camera, but I'm surrounded by young, talented women who I'm fans of.
00:35:44.280 They're all over social media, influencing folks.
00:35:46.960 They're young.
00:35:47.800 They're passionate.
00:35:49.240 The left is going to try to astroturf us.
00:35:51.660 They might be able to play that game for a year or two after a post-rope.
00:35:55.820 But this is an organic movement.
00:35:59.060 We're going to rope-a-dope them.
00:36:00.120 They can throw at us what they want for the next two years, but it's on.
00:36:04.620 And this generation, this fourth generation of pro-life movement is going to – I say that we have giants standing on our shoulders.
00:36:11.360 I'm at the Omnishore right now.
00:36:12.760 It's a hotel I was at with you and with Andrew Breitbart two weeks before he passed away,
00:36:17.920 and he gave a pro-life speech at this very conference and talked about being adopted.
00:36:23.100 And it's a youth movement.
00:36:24.800 They're very creative.
00:36:25.820 They're very talented.
00:36:27.440 You know, as a filmmaker who's made films like Bella and Crescendo with Justin Bieber's mom and all these films that I've made,
00:36:34.200 I see how talented these young people are, and I kind of feel like, okay, what do I do now?
00:36:38.720 They've got – the ball has been passed, and they're running toward the end zone.
00:36:42.980 Fourth generation.
00:36:45.940 Jason, how do people get to your podcast, all your writings over at Stream?
00:36:49.800 Yeah, I write.
00:36:50.360 I write at thestream.org.
00:36:51.480 My podcast is The Jason Jones Show.
00:36:54.220 And, Steve, we have a petition that we're delivering to Pope Francis, freeourbishops.com,
00:36:58.880 calling on the Vatican to lean on the CCP to demand the seven bishops, the Catholic bishops that have been arrested and disappeared or released.
00:37:07.460 Freeourbishops.com.
00:37:08.320 In fact, we're going to talk about this at 1130.
00:37:12.260 I'm going to the Vatican.
00:37:13.280 We've got Harnwell to talk about this situation with McCarrick in the secret CCP deal, which I know, Jason, you're at the tip of the spear of.
00:37:23.220 Thank you.
00:37:23.920 We'll get the petition.
00:37:24.840 We'll get it out broadly.
00:37:26.020 Thank you very much, Jason.
00:37:26.940 Appreciate it.
00:37:28.160 All right.
00:37:28.400 Thanks, Steve.
00:37:31.440 Yesterday was – is this your first or second March for Life?
00:37:35.920 Was this your first?
00:37:36.480 This is my first March for Life, and I highly encourage anyone, if there's a March for Life in your local city, local town, I highly encourage you to go.
00:37:46.860 It was very moving.
00:37:48.560 I will definitely be back again next year for the March for Life.
00:37:51.660 And were you surprised by the – it's young people, right?
00:37:54.540 I think that's tied to technology.
00:37:57.520 It didn't surprise me, but it did surprise me how it spanned multiple generations.
00:38:03.100 It wasn't just young people out there marching.
00:38:06.360 It was across multiple generations.
00:38:08.860 And there were a lot of, you know, families around my age, millennials, that had actually their young children there marching with them.
00:38:18.120 I saw this one father look to be about my age, and then his daughter was probably three years old, and she had a baby doll wrapped like you'd carry a baby.
00:38:26.780 And she was marching, too.
00:38:28.400 So that was very moving to see that there were young kids out there marching, too.
00:38:33.240 Wow.
00:38:33.640 Do we have the call open for Naomi?
00:38:35.200 Let's play the – let's – again, call open from Naomi.
00:38:37.280 Let's go ahead and play that, and then we'll bring on Naomi Wolf.
00:38:39.240 You need to know who's been vaccinated and who hasn't been.
00:38:43.660 Some of the vaccines that will come on down the line will be multiple – there'll be multiple shots.
00:38:48.800 So you've got to have – for reasons to do with the healthcare more generally, but certainly for a pandemic or for vaccines, you've got to have a proper digital infrastructure.
00:38:59.560 Naomi Wolf, thank you for joining us.
00:39:03.980 Boy, you warned us about this, I think, and I think it was – I'm going to pick a random date.
00:39:09.300 I think it was in 2020.
00:39:11.620 That was Tony Blair yesterday.
00:39:13.080 We had Noor bin Laden and Joe Allen on yesterday because this is one of the more important of all the panels and all the talks at Davos.
00:39:24.480 Naomi, it was a cold shot by you.
00:39:26.360 Tell us what Tony Blair laid out yesterday, ma'am.
00:39:28.240 Well, he laid out something that's been in their map since before the pandemic.
00:39:33.380 They have planned for this digital infrastructure that would track everyone, everywhere, forever, since the late 20-teens.
00:39:45.020 They planned a digital ID for Europe, you know, some years ago.
00:39:49.760 And what is obvious, and I made this case in the bodies of others and in this viral video you're referencing as well, the pandemic and the lockdowns and the only way out of lockdown is the vaccine and the only way to make sure you've had your vaccine and to let you back into society is to give you a digital passport.
00:40:08.120 That's all pretext to lock people into this matrix, this digital matrix, which is the China-style social credit score.
00:40:16.680 And they are not giving up.
00:40:18.680 And you heard him say, you know – and I hope you picked up the body language of these people now.
00:40:24.060 It's fascinating.
00:40:25.060 You know, he's nervous.
00:40:26.120 No one believes what they're saying anymore.
00:40:28.400 He knows it's nonsense, but they're barreling ahead.
00:40:30.860 You heard him say future vaccines will be multiple injections.
00:40:35.980 Well, we know now the reason for the multiple injections of this mRNA vaccine, and it's to increasingly debilitate people.
00:40:44.620 There's no physiological need that we've seen anywhere in the Pfizer documents for multiple injections except the studies out of Hong Kong that the second one and then the third one are progressively damaging.
00:40:56.360 So they're determined to herd us into smart cities, into the Internet of Things, and into a health care-based rationale for a social credit system like China, where literally they can turn off your – as we see in China, they can turn off your credit card.
00:41:15.920 They can turn off your savings.
00:41:17.680 They can turn off your access to food, access to schooling.
00:41:20.840 And they're not giving up.
00:41:22.160 And this is the fight of our lifetimes.
00:41:26.360 Real quickly, we've got 30 seconds.
00:41:28.960 I'm holding you through the break.
00:41:30.000 Tony Blair as the pitch man.
00:41:31.620 You don't have a technology person.
00:41:32.900 You don't have a medical person.
00:41:33.860 Why did they pick Tony Blair to be the pitch man for this man?
00:41:36.920 Well, he took a lot of money from – I believe he took money from the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation.
00:41:42.220 I'll need to check.
00:41:42.980 But money is flowing to these WEF spokespeople from many unaccountable front organizations basically, as well as from McKinsey, as well as from many nonprofits.
00:41:58.620 So he's bought and paid.
00:42:01.340 But there's no good reason, right?
00:42:02.840 He's just an ex-world leader who does his bidding, the bidding of the others.
00:42:07.760 Naomi, just hang her for one second.
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00:43:19.160 Naomi, what is Tony Blair specific?
00:43:21.660 Because they kind of downplayed this a little bit, although it's main battery for them.
00:43:25.900 You know, they had to have climate change, mental health, artificial intelligence.
00:43:29.580 But, trust me, the VAX is where they're at.
00:43:33.720 So, what is Tony Blair?
00:43:35.160 You called it out two years ago.
00:43:36.740 What is he specifically telling the hedge funds, the venture capital people, all the media, and, of course, Davos, ma'am?
00:43:44.880 Okay.
00:43:45.780 Well, first of all, it took me 10 seconds to find a chunk of the money that is behind his pronouncement.
00:43:51.460 The Bill and Melody Gates Foundation gave the Tony Blair Institute for Global Change $3.472 million for just one region.
00:44:01.840 And, presumably, if I keep searching, I'll find similar cash flows for other regions around the world for global health infrastructure implementation.
00:44:11.540 So, let me take a minute as a nerdy CEO of a tech company to explain to everyone the lockdowns were a pretext for the vaccine.
00:44:20.160 The vaccine's a pretext for this digital matrix.
00:44:23.400 What are they signaling with the commitment to the digital matrix?
00:44:27.800 Right now, you have a certain amount of free will.
00:44:31.900 And in those 33 states where we fought so hard to pass legislation to ban vaccine passports, you have a lot of free will.
00:44:40.180 You can choose what kind of health care you want or not to get health insurance.
00:44:45.620 You can choose, you know, where to drive.
00:44:48.360 You can choose to be untracked when you drive in a fossil fuel-based car as opposed to an electric car, which tracks everything.
00:44:55.420 You can choose, you know, whom to see without your contacts being swept up and tabulated as this is a group of dissidents.
00:45:04.780 We want to keep an eye on them.
00:45:06.320 We want to, you know, ramp up following their social media, mining their social media.
00:45:10.360 So, and especially HIPAA, the law that protects your health care records, it's a federal law, is the enemy of the people who want this matrix.
00:45:22.520 Now, if you're a hedge fund manager or if you're Chase or if you're, gosh, you know, the Rockefeller Foundation, right now you're at the mercy of history and you're at the mercy of human beings' free will.
00:45:38.420 And so there's risk in your investments, right?
00:45:40.900 But if you create a matrix like this, there's no more risk.
00:45:44.980 You can make people buy what you want them to buy.
00:45:47.940 You can make people go where you want them to go.
00:45:50.500 And you can switch them off and on.
00:45:53.200 And you saw the results of this by the way I track this.
00:45:55.560 This is a central argument in the bodies of others.
00:45:57.420 By locking us down and keeping us, tracking us, you know, preventing us from assembling, for instance, certain sectors like Amazon, like Nintendo, like Zoom, were up 23% net revenue over the course of the lockdown.
00:46:13.020 So that's predictable.
00:46:14.320 So if you're a hedge fund person, you know there's going to be a lockdown.
00:46:17.060 You invest in Amazon, right?
00:46:18.660 Because Main Street is going to be unavailable.
00:46:21.220 Well, why would you ever give that up, right?
00:46:23.520 You'd want to do that if you're a capitalist at a macro major level for the rest of human history.
00:46:30.940 Why give people back their free will?
00:46:32.880 Why let them start their own businesses?
00:46:34.880 Why let them launch their own movements?
00:46:37.380 Why let them assemble freely?
00:46:39.020 So what has been happening, especially with healthcare, is that HIPAA, which protects this last giant piece of human autonomy and privacy, is under attack.
00:46:50.800 And it's under attack from many, many directions.
00:46:54.040 One direction is, oh, let's let 12-year-olds decide for themselves if they want a vaccine, then the parents don't have the right to prevent them from being entered into this healthcare matrix, right?
00:47:06.320 But another example I'll give you very quickly is that I avoided seeing a doctor, even for a checkup, for two and a half years because I've lost all faith in organized medicine.
00:47:15.100 I finally went for a checkup with this entity called One Medical.
00:47:18.940 One Medical is a classic kind of the kinds of digital companies you're seeing now that have a super lovely, easy user interface, fabulous app.
00:47:28.120 All of their RNs are very attractive and do yoga.
00:47:31.320 You know, they've got highly styled postmodern waiting rooms.
00:47:35.200 It's only $120 a year.
00:47:36.860 Well, the numbers don't add up.
00:47:38.240 I know this is a tech CEO.
00:47:39.760 You're not going to make back your money for that kind of high-end service at $120 per person a year.
00:47:45.940 But what the business model is, is they're going after your healthcare data.
00:47:51.180 So when I was in my checkup with the RN, she said, oh, look, you know, your file has lost your family medical history and we've lost a bunch of stuff from an ER visit.
00:48:06.200 You'll need to sign a release so that we can fill that in again.
00:48:08.740 Well, I'm telling you as a tech CEO, that is impossible, right?
00:48:12.520 It's not like the database drops things like out of a file folder when you're going from New York to Massachusetts, as I did.
00:48:19.920 It's all one database.
00:48:21.400 And you can't drop chunks of a field, of an account, unless there's a virus or, you know, an attack from a hacker.
00:48:28.700 It's just not possible.
00:48:29.800 But what the release would do if I was, you know, ill-informed enough, as most people are, to sign it, is it bypasses HIPAA.
00:48:38.200 And then I right away went back to read the terms and conditions.
00:48:41.560 And I know this is nerdy, but bear with me.
00:48:43.360 It's very important.
00:48:44.800 And the terms and conditions, which no one reads, but which it's my job to read as a tech CEO, clearly state that they're working with, quote, unquote, partners.
00:48:53.420 And then I found this in their pitch deck from 2020, right the middle of the lockdown, when no one knew what was happening, allegedly.
00:49:01.020 And their partners are all of these giant healthcare networks, giant hospital networks, giant for-profit networks that I never realized, because I didn't read the terms and conditions foolishly when I just used that cute app, that all of my data is being sent to.
00:49:16.060 And those people are going to own our data, our healthcare data, and quickly, one medical is branching into pediatrics and mental health.
00:49:25.500 And so these people are going to be able to funnel your mental health issues, right, or your addiction issues, or whatever issues they want to create about you.
00:49:35.580 Are you under stress?
00:49:36.960 You know, I'm sure that's going to be a question they'll start to ask.
00:49:39.480 Is there any addiction in your family?
00:49:41.300 You know, any bipolar illness?
00:49:42.780 They're going to funnel that.
00:49:43.740 They'll be able to funnel it to the government, or funnel it to Twitter, or funnel it to the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation, whoever wants it.
00:49:50.200 And then there's going to be a profile of you that can be used to kind of criminalize your thought, switch you off, call you a terrorist, call you a danger to the republic.
00:50:00.180 But also just it's vastly valuable for them in tracking everything you're doing and in kind of intimidating you if you don't have any medical privacy at all.
00:50:11.060 And then, Naomi, hang on for one second, 90-second break.
00:50:15.720 We have Naomi Worth with us.
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