Episode 2482： The Overreach Of The FBI On Anti-Abortion Activist
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Summary
In this episode, we are joined by Mark Hoke, Peter Mckelvenny, and Peter's father, Dr. Peter Mckevenny. We talk about the anti-abortion, anti-prolife, and pro-choice campaigns, as well as what happens when a nation starts to de-christianize.
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this is the primal scream of a dying regime pray for our enemies because we're going medieval on
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these people here's not got a free shot all these networks lying about the people the people have
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had a belly full of it i know you don't like hearing that i know you try to do everything
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the world to stop that but you're not going to stop it it's going to happen and where do people
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like that go to share the big line mega media i wish in my soul i wish that any of these people
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had a conscience ask yourself what is my task and what is my purpose if that answer is to save my
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country this country will be saved war room here's your host stephen k vann
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okay welcome it's tuesday 31 january in the year of our lord 2023 80 years ago uh today the um
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infamous a sixth army uh group of um uh the nazis surrendered uh at um at stalingrad only 91 000
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um remained from the 300 north of 300 000 army that was outside of stalingrad that army is infamous
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because when it went through ukraine it was associated with the uh with the killing of the
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30 000 jews the massacre uh it massacred people all over ukraine quite frankly with the help of
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some ukrainians part of the history that zielinski in this crew want to erase from history we're going
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to talk all about this 80th anniversary because you had holocaust memorial on uh on the 80th
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anniversary of uh the commemoration of everything to do with the holocaust and we got to get in back of
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uh the holocaust who perpetrated it and uh and who liberated it okay because it's happening again
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today a lot going on in ukraine you saw matt gates last night said uh he is um uh not uh he's not a hard
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no on omar uh yet and so there's a lot of moving piece here we're gonna get to all that but i want to
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start uh with um the um the purpose of these investigations that are happening and people
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have to understand these are gearing a big league i think they all start almost simultaneously next
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week weaponization of government being the out of control fbi and doj i don't think there's any
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better example than uh what has happened to these incredibly um um spiritual religious kind decent
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folks that that have been praying and saying the rosary uh outside of uh abortion abortion centers
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these abortion mills so i want to start there with mark hoke but also we're gonna go to our mother
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country to the united kingdom and you're going to see what happens when a nation starts to de-christianize
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we're going to bring in peter mckelvenny in a moment from hearts of oak but i'll start with mark
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how can we have mark on the phone he joins us mark just walk people through because this was just i
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think a a an incredible uh case an incredible event yesterday just walk us through what you had done
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what you've been accused of how the fbi came to your house and then you know what happened yesterday
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with the jury oh good morning steve and all praise be to god for
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for the gift of yesterday which was uh great news from the family so back on september 23rd
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uh let's go even back further october 13th 2021 there was an altercation at uh planned parenthood 12th and
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locust streets in philadelphia where i have been going for 20 years peacefully praying and doing
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sidewalk counseling my first amendment right just exercising that i happened to be there on october 13th
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with my 12 year old son and we were praying our rosary uh without incident for the first 45 minutes
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before there was uh an opportunity to to minister and counsel to a woman who came out of planned
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parenthood and we were walking across the street talking to her sharing some some literature with
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her actually walking to the pregnancy resource center that was only about 50 feet away when um an
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abortion escort volunteer uh interfered with that uh encounter engagement and basically uh violated my
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first amendment rights and got between me and and the young lady i was talking to and there was a bit
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of a bump and so forth there and uh from there it ensued to go back to the um the the sidewalk where my
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son was and continue our prayer vigil uh about 30 minutes later the same uh volunteer volunteer escort
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comes out of the building and uh places himself right next to my son literally a foot away from my 12
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year old boy and now i've had encounters with him in the past verbally that weren't great uh a lot of
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obscenity a lot of profanity a lot of vulgarity he said things like and i hope it doesn't offend your
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audience but in front of my son he'll say why don't you go home and masturbate uh he'll call me
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an effing a-hole in front of my son and and and he was having conversation with my son that day and i
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told him you don't have permission to talk to my son and i've told him that over and over again over
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over the years um but he just continued to press it and push my son was so nervous and uncomfortable
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that he stepped away and got behind me and i said go back to where you you normally stand uh leave us
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alone very forcefully i did tell him that he started to move as i kind of escorted him back
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i turned back to be with my son he wheeled and started to talk to my son again and then i turned and
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pushed him that was the origin the genesis of what uh eventually became a 6 45 in the morning raid of
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my home on september 23rd uh by the federal bureau of investigation along with about 15 state
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troopers of pennsylvania uh that's picture you see is as after things kind of calmed down at the house
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but um that began this journey of last four plus months where we were being um put into the the court
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system to uh under a federal indictment under the face act which we had to defend and we did so
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successfully with a phenomenal legal team led by brian mcmonegal probably the best defense attorney in the
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country and uh the wonderful people at thomas moore society led by peter breen
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just the facts um the facts you just laid out mark um about the guy intimidating your son the the
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vulgar language you know pushing all that and you finally pushed him back it was just it was it's just
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a push right we um how many charges did they i want to make sure even before they're how many charges
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how many felonies were you charged with sir for that for what you just described yeah steve there
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was two counts that i was charged with uh count one had to do with a face act violation um which had
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three elements to it and then uh count two was the same face act charge felony uh with a uh an assault
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charge attached to that as well four elements and and that would have you would have been in found
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guilty you could possibly been in prison for how many years for the for that xer it held up to 11
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years in prison with with up to 350 000 in fine so for what you just described right you you could
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have spent 11 years in prison in a federal prison and you would have been fined over 300 000 is that
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correct that's that's accurate yes the um the face act is can you describe that to people because
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now you're you're a national international figure the face act is really to protect these abortion
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mills is it not the slaughter of the innocents is that essentially what these laws are sir
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sure so back in 1994 uh it was enacted sponsored by senator ted kennedy and uh chuck schumer and this
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act was initially designed from what i understand to stop uh pro-lifers from um engaging in public
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sit-ins and civil disobedience whereby they would rescue uh in front of uh abortion mills and basically
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block the doors it effectively worked uh these were originally kind of like rico laws that were designed
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to deal with the mob and so forth but uh nonetheless they were applied to the pro-life efforts um the
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face act stands that the acronym stands for federal access to clinic entrances so anyone who's trying to
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prevent someone from access to a clinic entrance and for that matter a pregnancy resource center would
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also cover them someone who's trying to gain access to these places if they were impeded in any way
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intimidated uh intimidated bullied harassed um or in any way um impeded as i said the the statute would
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apply and what the uh the government was trying to do was apply it to peaceful sidewalk counselors who
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uh were encountering also volunteers for uh different facilities around the country who were acting um
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in a in a manner that isn't suitable to the act but nonetheless because they were quote unquote a
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reproductive health care provider they uh the government tried to apply it to them as well
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which we found yesterday that the judge and the jury uh deemed that not appropriate and um judge
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papert joe papert on the stand said that uh this is a stretch of the of this law and that the government
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should go back and fix it i just wanted before i turn to peter i want to hold you uh mark or for
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do this segment is um for 20 years you you've gone and prayed the rosary at these um at these centers
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correct and counseled the young women uh that have sought counseling correct you've dedicated a big part
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of your life your entire life to this effort including praying the rosary outside of these clinics
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that's right i mean at least one day of my week is spent doing it in full up to about eight to ten
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hours sometimes and uh yeah it's a blessing to be there and uh i've loved it and uh i've never had
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an issue like this in 20 years uh there's a lot of back and forth and you know a lot of emotions on both
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sides but uh it's never escalated to this point and um unfortunately it did uh but uh my son being the
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the main reason why this happened uh i stepped in like any good father would do and uh really became
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about a father's rights i would say uh and at the end of the day to protect his son
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mark hangar for one second i want to bring in peter mcelvenny from uh hearts of oak in london
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uh house of lords yesterday tell us what the house of lords uh did uh yesterday uh peter
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so they passed an amendment to the public order bill and the amendment would put a restriction of 150
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meters a buffer zone around abortion clinics now we have at the moment a law which has been
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provisionally used by police to enforce this uh we had vittoria arrested in december for praying we
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had a gentleman arrested a week ago for praying um but there has been a massive push by the abortion
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lobby to have in legislation this they call it a safe space certainly not safe space for babies
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but it means that if you oppose abortion under within 150 meters of that clinic anything you do
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that may impede those abortions you are guilty and prayer comes into that it is literally unbelievable
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that prayer could be illegal outside an abortion clinic but yes if you go within that 150 meters
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and are praying as two people have already been arrested under separate legislation then you're guilty
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and the legislation it it didn't pass with a vote it was a verbal passing and now we'll go over the
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comments to approve it but there's little opposition and the the group of mps and peers that are backing
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this is from nearly every single party in parliament and what it will mean when this is enacted probably
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within uh two months or so will mean that the fines for a person participating in any action which is deemed to
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inhibit an abortion is unlimited the fines are unlimited they did remove a possible two-year jail sentence but
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the the the the incredible footage of the young woman praying across the street from the abortion
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mill um is uh do we have that clip can we play that clip and let's play it in b-roll while
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while we got let's go ahead and play it can we hit it
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um so i'll ask you once more will you voluntarily come with us now to the police station for me to
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ask you some questions about today and other days where there are allegations that you've
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broken public spaces protection order if i've got a choice then no okay well then you're under
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arrest that can't suspicion of failing to comply with the public spaces protection order which is
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under the anti-social behavior common peace act 2014 now of course you again you do not have to say
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anything you may harm your defense if you do not mention one question something which later on in
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court anything you do say you may be given any more do you understand the caution i do um your
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what you see is the hassling of this uh of this young woman and and eventually her arrest uh peter
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i know we're going to lose you um the london school of economics today pushing that they're taking the
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concepts of lent and christmas out of any uh any publication they put up they're de-christianizing
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their entire calendar um just once again in lords there was no opposition to this bill to this
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abortion bill and there were i think five or six peers who opposed this back in november but there was
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little opposition this time so it more or less got a free reign and the push is we need safe spaces so
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we'll go through peter just hang on i just want to hold you through and we'll get you out for your
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next interview peter mcelvini joins us from london we have mark halk the great hero of the rosary
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in front of these slaughter mills all next in the war room
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okay welcome back we're connecting dots here because i want to make sure everybody understands
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that this gets down to the parental rights movement this is about the weaponization
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of the administrative state in the deep state against you the citizens of this nation that's what this is
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about plain and simple mark hauck is just a hero that happened to stand his ground and um had a great
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legal team that was able to combat it but uh you know we're inextricably linked with the judeo-christian
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west our brothers and sisters in europe and you're seeing europe should foreshadow what's going to
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happen in america the de-christianization the secularization and if you don't think about it think
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about england at the top at the top of its game right in the victorian era at the top of its game
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and what it stood for and what it did for the world and compare that to to now there's no there's not
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going to be opposition and comments listen just for the american audience you say 150 meters that's
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essentially two football fields so you can't pray outside of a death mill you can't pray the rosary you
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can't you can't pray to god for the for these women and for the innocence right you can't pray
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two two american football fields from an abortion mill peter mckelveen yeah it's 500 feet and the
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abortion lobby had pushed this for at least 10 years they launched a campaign in 2014 called back off
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which was to push this they've been extremely aggressive and the conservative party i mean conservative
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only the tories they they looked at this in 2018 they assessed it and decided there was no need for
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it so it has been looked at but you've had one particular mp sadly she's my mp rupa huck labor mp and
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she has this is her passion to make sure as many babies can die and it is one of her goals to have
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a buffer zone and four times she brought this bill forward this amendment four times she dropped it
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because of massive opposition and now stella creasy another labor mp has brought this on has garnered
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their support and will push it through and when it goes to the commons as i said there won't be
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opposition any mp who's stood up and been pro-life has been vilified has been taken apart has been
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destroyed maria caulfield a great government minister who's on the all-party parliamentary group the pro-life
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group she spoke up about this end of last year and the amount of hit she received so you simply don't
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do it for your career uh there are only there are only a handful of mps who actually would even say
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they have pro-life views want to restrict the abortion limit 24 weeks want to bring that down
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so there isn't any pushback at all no it's no pushback because it's not really a conservative
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party it's just a conservative name only this is what happens this is why we focus on a lot on
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british politics this is what's going to happen the reverend haigey reverend haigey used to used to
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have a phrase that the problem in england and europe is that the mosques are full or full and the churches
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are empty if you go to london to christopher wren the the the magnificent churches you have are
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absolutely stunning i mean it matches paris or or italy anywhere you want to go it's it's a different
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architectural style but it's absolutely stunning christopher wren and all the churches are empty
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i mean empty this is the problem uh peter how do people get to your content your content how do
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they follow you because you're a voice of reason over there so hearts of oak.org forward slash live
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stream or at hearts of oak on getter at hearts of oak uk on twitter um and we're monday 3 p.m eastern
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time thursday 3 p.m eastern and saturday 3 p.m eastern so this thursday with jason jones coming
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along talking about what's happening over in your part of the world on the u.s border which you haven't
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touched on so he's going to come on and educate our uk viewers to the chaos you're facing on your open
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border yeah the loss of our sovereignty uh thank you uh and good luck jason's fabulous great guest
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great man thank you mark um tell me about the fbi the day you just laid out a set of incidents you
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were praying there's some guy that escorts him he's been doing it for a while he runs looks sounds like
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he runs a little hot got in a confrontation where it said some stuff very inappropriate got into a slight
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it's a slight shoving match at best i want to go through again how many fbi agents and how are they
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dressed up and how many state troopers came to your house sir
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sure well following those incidents with the the volunteer escort there was a private criminal
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complaint which went nowhere in the city of philadelphia the municipal court and then um about
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five days after that was dismissed and in municipal court i got a target letter from the doj
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uh assistant u.s attorney in philadelphia that i was a target of a grand jury investigation
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uh my attorneys at the time matt heffron thomas more society former federal prosecutor
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uh said they had no case there's case law against uh my my client being targeted here but
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nonetheless if you want to bring him to uh your building and question him uh we'll bring him in
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peacefully this happened at the end of april uh 2022 uh there was very little correspondence with
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the assistant u.s attorney with my attorney so much so that my attorney reached out to me in august of
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2022 and told me that or asked me if i had heard from the assistant u.s attorney i had not and i said well
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maybe we'll just let sleeping dogs lie the next thing i know i had uh 20 plus federal agents and state
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troopers banging on my door at 6 45 in the morning on september 23rd friday morning i was awake my
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children and my wife were asleep the manner in which the fbi banged on my door is particularly worth
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noting because they rang the doorbell it was dark outside repeatedly they rang the doorbell and they
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banged on the door saying open up they didn't even declare who they were they didn't even state
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their names they didn't tell me anything the degree that of the recklessness that this was performed in
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the act of terror which it was as i opened well as i questioned i said who is it before i opened this
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door uh and then they finally told me it was the fbi to which i replied okay i'm going to open the door
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stay calm i have seven babies in here which were stirring at this point but i didn't know they're awake
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my wife was up i opened the door and slowly showed them my hands as i opened the door i could not
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believe that the circus scene that i saw at least 10 15 marked and unmarked units right in front of me
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surrounding the side of my house i have 100 yards to the street cars lined all the way up to the street
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long guns pointed at me heavily armored vest ballistic helmets ballistic shields
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battering ram my own daughter took note of a uh an fbi agent at the back of my house
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as i said they were surrounding my house i had at least five federal agents on my
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porch with m16s pointed at me and now uh my wife as she entered the uh the opening of the door
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i opened the door and i said what are you doing here
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they said you know why we're here because i really didn't know why they were there because
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i hadn't heard from the ausa and then i said oh i know why you're here you're here because i rescue
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babies and then i looked at all of them steve and i said you wouldn't be here if the trump
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administration was in the white house and none of them said anything they just looked at me my wife
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comes down puts her robe on and says do you have a warrant for his arrest and they said we're taking
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him with or without a warrant my wife said you can't do that i was arrested in in front of my
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children in front of my home while they're screaming i asked them i had flip-flops on pair of shorts no
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underwear a t-shirt i said can i put some underwear on no can i get can brush my teeth no can i put some
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deodorant on no can i get some clothes no can i take my rosary yes they allowed me to take my rosary
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they i was put in the car within 15 minutes cuffed and we headed down to the federal building
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while my children are screaming and yelling it was reckless that day it's not i'm so i'm so
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surprised that someone wasn't shot or or i wasn't shot my kids picked up one of our airsoft guns that
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they play around with they easily could have been shot extremely reckless behavior on behalf on on the
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part of the federal government um i just want to reiterate your attorney was in and people in the
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audience understand this your attorney was in conversations with the with the u.s attorneys
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correct they knew you had lawyers they knew your lawyers were on the case they knew and they had
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had contact with the with the u.s attorney so there's no there's no um there was no question
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that you were represented by attorneys in this matter sir there was never a question i was represented
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throughout the whole private criminal complaint and then i received uh thomas more uh legal representation
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upon the the uh target letter which i received uh on april 27th of 2022 so they were in contact with
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them uh right away i say the purpose of the raid and the way they did it was to uh shock it was an act
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of terror and they they hoped that something happened they wanted to take somebody out that day that was a
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run-up to the 2022 election this was all about politics that's how depraved the administrative state is
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mark do you are you going to thomas more it doesn't get any better and your other lawyers i talked
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to him on the first night uh and they were just magnificent in fact i think we had one of the
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lawyers on here um do you intend to press charges for prosecutorial abuse and are you going to press
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charges against the fbi agents and the state troopers uh we most definitely will and we will be
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seeking counsel on that i think peter breen uh at thomas more society wants to get myself my wife
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and children in front of the congress and give them the details of what happened because steve uh it
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gets even worse once i got to the federal building if you want to get into that today um how they
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treated me i do want to get into how they okay so yes we will we will pursue all i tell you what
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mark yeah mark hang on for one second let's take a commercial break and i want to get i want to get
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cortez in here for some thoughts i want to get you we got a lot to go through but um this is about
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the weaponization of the administrative state this is what the nazis did and for the state troopers and
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the fbi we're going to expose all the names right you're not going to be able to hide this is like
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they're after the war oh everybody's a good german they're all good germans right didn't i didn't know
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nazis did we hear any nazis no no no no no no if you're following these orders these are illegal
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accept it okay and you're part of the problem the agents there don't blame it on the attorney
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u.s attorneys don't apply blame it on the fbi yeah they're culpable and will be held accountable
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but you you individual state troopers fbi that went there you're part of the problem big league
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okay i want everybody in this audience to understand mark mark halk is you he's every man he's american
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laobaijing is the old hundred names right he gives up a big part of his life to say the rosary right to
00:29:42.260
pray basically to pray outside of these uh abortion mills and um uh what you saw happen to him is what
00:29:50.880
happened in germany in the 1930s it's what happened this is this is what the whole purpose of this
00:29:57.860
investigation the weaponization of government it's not about against trump or me or any of these
00:30:03.480
the the uh james o'keefe and all the other leaders of the maga movement that have been you know
00:30:09.240
harassed by doj and harassed by the fbi that's not the and i have no personal uh issue with the fbi
00:30:16.980
they wouldn't even get involved in the in the southern district case they passed on that had to
00:30:21.420
be the pulse of this i have no personal animosity in fact i say all the time when i was growing up
00:30:26.300
the most revered you know the veterans and uh and uh and uh in the fbi agents in my parish as a young
00:30:35.140
catholic kid coming up they were revered as part of uh hoover's fbi right that's not what we have
00:30:42.520
today we have we have something that's very different and very dangerous and this is all
00:30:47.400
about intimidation they hope by sending those officers with the guns first of they want to
00:30:51.200
initiate something right they want to initiate something but they hope to do it uh to show uh to
00:30:57.840
intimidate you this audience because they want to you're sitting there going well i was going to go
00:31:02.480
pray at this thing but look what they're doing or they want they intimidate they want you to be
00:31:06.480
silent this is about the whole thing this is this ties directly to the parental rights movement at the
00:31:11.820
at the schools they want you to be silent and they're going to intimidate those who stand up
00:31:15.980
the way that manhandled uh that father at the at the loudon county about the uh transgender uh about
00:31:23.940
the dude in the uh in the bathroom intimidating his daughter right this is all about intimidation this is
00:31:30.060
why merrick garland is evil this is why the people at the fbi are evil they're evil chris ray they
00:31:37.780
somebody made a decision to do this a conscious decision to do this not just to break mark halk
00:31:43.640
more importantly to use him as a symbol use him as symbol to break you because they understand that
00:31:49.820
you're the you're the you're the thin line between civilization and chaos it's you this audience
00:31:55.600
right the parental rights people every person that goes out and does this every day you you're the
00:32:00.980
ones holding the line and they're trying to break you psychologically financially mentally right they're
00:32:07.840
trying to break you and if you break this country's done this country's done or let's say this the
00:32:15.140
constitutional republic that's been handed down for 13 to 14 generations that's done that's what this
00:32:21.280
fight's about that's what you're going to see next week that's what you have to you have to be on top
00:32:25.960
of this because it's if it's not you it's nobody there's nobody else coming to save us it's the mark
00:32:32.240
halks of the world nobody's coming to save you nobody's coming to save this country only you
00:32:38.520
cortez let me bring you here for a minute we were here on other topics got a lot to get through today
00:32:43.840
but this must be addressed because this is the thing itself steve cortez your your observation so far
00:32:51.000
before we press on you know mark halk is such an inspiration he is a warrior for god he is a
00:32:56.680
protector of defenseless babies and he's clearly a patriot who loves this country the way that he was
00:33:01.960
treated by federal law enforcement was unconscionable and you know to the point he made by the way this
00:33:07.120
incident this confrontation which was really very minor was investigated by municipal authorities and
00:33:13.060
determined to be inconsequential okay the reality is even if he had committed a crime for the sake of
00:33:18.120
argument he certainly did not but i'm saying for the sake of argument uh it is a very minor offense
00:33:23.140
to be handled by local authorities not a federal issue you know why the escalation you're exactly
00:33:28.180
correct because it's about intimidation so i would encourage americans out there uh to be brave because
00:33:33.640
mark halk did beat the system in this case which is very rare federal criminal prosecutions almost
00:33:39.300
never fail uh the unfortunately right their success rate the prosecution success rate is near 100 percent
00:33:46.040
uh so this is a wonderful outlier in that regard but i would also encourage uh the audience out there
00:33:51.520
to to be brave to pray to act why because connecting it to your other conversation about england
00:33:56.920
europe in many ways is a preview it is a forerunner of where we are headed okay and what is going on in
00:34:03.140
england um is really unthinkable to a lot of americans the idea of literally outlawing prayer but guess what
00:34:09.120
we are hurtling toward that reality uh so look to the mother country of england uh with foreboding
00:34:16.340
and realize that we are on that same path toward a secular humanist future uh which is demoralizing
00:34:23.640
and which seeks to view human human beings uh not as spiritual but as subjects only uh so look with
00:34:31.260
inspiration to mark halk and then also look with foreboding and warning to what is happening in england right
00:34:36.160
now mark talk to us about when you got to the uh when you by the way cortez dead spot on mark talk to
00:34:43.180
us about what happened when you got to the uh when you got to the federal how were you uh handled
00:34:47.760
sure so on the way down um there was light conversation uh with the agents two of them uh
00:34:57.060
it was we talked about homeschooling i talked about the benefits of homeschooling and uh you know it was
00:35:04.320
really benign in conversation when i got to the federal building of course i was cuffed i was
00:35:08.640
immediately shackled in my waist and shackled on my feet now i'm in the bureau building i'm in i'm on
00:35:15.600
the floor they put me in a room a white room that with just a table in it and they chained me to a table
00:35:23.860
that seemed a little extreme but nonetheless i'm shackled on my feet and my waist for six hours steve
00:35:30.800
for six hours now they had every intention to let me go on my own recognizance which they did
00:35:36.700
but for six hours i have to say to your audience was the most intimate prayer experience of my life
00:35:43.540
i was at the foot of calvary i was beneath christ at the cross and i felt tremendous peace love and joy
00:35:52.120
and i mean that sincerely uh nonetheless i my own questioning i i said why is this necessary why
00:36:00.080
why do i need shackles on my feet where am i going to go and then when everything was all done after we
00:36:06.300
did the preliminary hearing and i agreed to everything they wanted me to agree to they
00:36:10.860
manipulated and coerced me on a phone call to get me to give up information i wasn't comfortable giving
00:36:16.140
up uh they manipulated and coerced my wife on that phone call to get me to give up information that i
00:36:21.660
wasn't willing to give which they told me i had permission not to share and then once they finally
00:36:27.440
let me go they brought me down to the u.s marshals in the same building with the same shackles on i was
00:36:34.580
inching my feet along and i i made comment why is this necessary can't i just walk with a normal gait
00:36:40.460
i don't know why you would have to put somebody through that a pure act of humiliation the u.s
00:36:46.420
marshals treated me like i was a convicted felon and um treated me like no other person has ever
00:36:53.500
treated me and when i finally emerged and came to be with my family about four o'clock about nine
00:36:59.560
hours later ten hours later um we embraced and we prayed and hugged and celebrated our reunion
00:37:06.560
and that was my day at uh at the federal building about a hundred yards from the independence hall
00:37:12.720
in philadelphia a hundred yards where the both constitution was negotiated and uh and uh and uh
00:37:21.700
and and and signed and worked through negotiated and created and also the declaration of independence
00:37:26.500
go back tell me about that i wanted you to go back and give us some details on the six hours
00:37:30.620
of your um your spiritual journey in that six hours sir the spiritual exercises you did in that six
00:37:37.320
hours when you were you were shackled uh chained and chained to a desk in a uh in a barren room
00:37:44.520
in a uh in a federal uh in a in a federal uh u.s marshals office talk to us about the six hours
00:37:50.440
sure so i i used to work in juvenile justice so i i put handcuffs on people before the handcuffs that
00:37:58.160
were on my ankles when i had bare ankles because they didn't allow me to put any socks on i still have
00:38:02.480
my flip-flops on um were put on pretty tightly uh so much so that you know you could you could feel
00:38:09.620
the the the pain of it so entering into that pain if you will was was easy for me um being a catholic
00:38:17.640
christian man i just invoked all the saints who i knew were persecuted over the course of their
00:38:23.320
journey all the martyrs i prayed every mystery and decade of the rosary i prayed every devotional
00:38:28.780
novena i could think of it was prayer without ceasing i literally could feel the feathers of my
00:38:34.720
guardian angel it's the only thing i could do but offer up what i was dealing with for my wife and my
00:38:40.240
children who i knew nothing i knew nothing about what was going to happen to them or when i would
00:38:44.860
be reunited with them no one told me when i would be reunited with them uh and i just continue to pray
00:38:50.600
and i felt so much peace because i was so intimate so close to the cross of christ
00:38:56.840
that i could i could take the splinters off that cross i could feel the sweat of my lord and so for
00:39:04.660
me it was a great gift in that way i felt blessed i felt honored to suffer and you know what the greatest
00:39:10.940
thing for me is that i knew as i was dealing with this persecution that i was in the will of god that i
00:39:19.040
knew without a shadow of a doubt that i was in the will of god and that i was right where he wanted me
00:39:23.660
to be and for me in that situation uh i barely had any contact with anybody they'd check on me every
00:39:30.620
hour or two asked me if i needed anything but other than that i was pretty much in there by myself
00:39:36.120
alone with my thoughts alone with my god and alone with the history of the church of all those that
00:39:42.320
mark hang over a second i just want to make sure i had i had tom williams on here the other day about
00:39:48.800
his new book about the persecution of christians throughout the world and um he made the comment
00:39:55.180
that the 340 million christians are being um persecuted right now it's greater the persecutions
00:40:01.700
today globally are worse than first century rome but i want to make sure everybody understands
00:40:08.740
what's going on those state troopers the fbi agents the u.s marshals guys you consider the good guys
00:40:16.340
not in this administrative state that's the romans they're nothing but the romans that are torturing
00:40:23.920
and persecuting first century christians what you saw there mark halk was chained like a dog and
00:40:30.100
brought in with all those fbi agents all the state troopers for one simple reason i want this audience
00:40:34.900
to fully understand it he's living uh he's uh lived christianity he doesn't talk about his religion he
00:40:43.880
doesn't uh you know go to church once a week like like most catholics and most christians it is his
00:40:49.300
lived christianity that brought him to be chained like a dog in that in that room and his victory
00:40:59.400
is the victory if you study the martyrs you study the saints that's the victory they say it's the most
00:41:05.940
powerful moment the most you know you talk to people you read it the most powerful moment you flip it back
00:41:11.160
on them this is first century rome they're like the nazis they're just like the romans there's no
00:41:17.760
difference there's no difference and for the state troopers and the fbi agents and the u.s marsh i'm
00:41:23.240
just doing my job hey go back and look at the nuremberg trials okay just doing your job is not good
00:41:32.140
enough this is the persecution of christians in this nation and they couldn't be more they couldn't
00:41:39.600
they're not subtle about it they chained him like a dog not to break him to break you
00:41:44.680
they chained him like a dog to break you how many people out there will say i can handle that i could
00:41:51.480
do that right they may you know they may talk about the country club i could do that check in your
00:41:55.940
own heart how many of you could do that they understand that they understand it they understand
00:42:02.120
exactly what the spiritual war we talk about spiritual warfare this is the thing itself
00:42:07.200
mark how do people get to you uh and learn more about this and to your attorneys how do how did
00:42:14.440
we get to you yeah sure they can check out um on the web the kingsmen.org which is my ministry's
00:42:22.560
website and uh i'm available through through that and in a variety of ways uh social media and whatnot can
00:42:30.000
be found there but uh my email and contact information are there as well okay brother we'll
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make sure we have your attorneys back on and you back on uh and as you pursue what you must pursue
00:42:42.140
that you owe it to the american people i know you know this but you've got to pursue this what happened
00:42:47.200
it's it's this is incredibly important mark you're a patriot hero thank you can i share one thing before
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i leave i tell you what why don't you hold through the break you can just hold through the break we'll
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have you on the other side because we have a hard out we'll be right back mark halk joins us steve
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uh some closing uh thoughts for our audience sir yeah thanks steve and uh again thanks for the
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opportunity to share it's only the second interview so real privilege for me all glory be to god again for
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the good news of yesterday i thought it important for your audience to know in light of the program
00:46:07.680
content today that two weeks ago the federal government thought so highly of their case that
00:46:14.420
they came in with a plea offer that would have reduced it to basically nothing for me to just walk
00:46:20.000
away with a slap on the wrist provided i pled guilty my wife told me you're not allowed home if you
00:46:27.400
take that plea i was not going to take that plea but i just wanted your audience to know that that's
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how highly the government thought of this case and and i knew the importance of allowing this case to
00:46:40.040
set precedent for the pro-life movement to have case law on the books i just think it's important
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to know that the government knew it was a flimsy case and uh and that they thought so little of it
00:46:51.520
that they were going to uh plea it down or ask me this is this is a misdemeanor
00:46:56.460
this is what scum they are this is what scum they are the scum uh you you risked going to going to
00:47:07.520
court you risked this uh because you knew you had to beat you would beat it in court but you had to
00:47:13.040
beat it in court is is that essentially uh what we should take away that you knew you had to do this
00:47:17.940
to set precedent i knew i had to do it for the cause and for the movement
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when you hear when you hear these politicians running around saying oh gosh we lost uh you know
00:47:33.060
we lost 22 we lost a couple of seats because of this this is terrible we got to stop talking about
00:47:37.620
the life movement you see in england what's happening in england it's cratering around them
00:47:41.800
we're gonna have dave walsh on in a in a few minutes after cortez talk about the energy crisis the
00:47:46.660
whole thing's crashing in on them because they don't stand for anything anymore so when you hear
00:47:51.380
that what do you think mark who risked it all including years in prison well you know by the
00:47:58.180
grace of god go i so i i just i know i've been given a tremendous gift and blessing in this
00:48:03.760
opportunity that god has created me for such a time as this and so i just said yes and i saw the
00:48:09.680
opportunity i knew it was martyrdom and what does martyr mean it means witness and so whether you're in
00:48:15.560
the federal government as a state legislator who are federal federal uh congresswoman or senator
00:48:21.680
they're all called to be witnesses to witness to to a greater a greater good a greater power and uh
00:48:28.800
you know i i have stepped up to say yes to to allow myself to suffer and and to take on that white
00:48:34.480
martyrdom uh and uh i invite others to do the same so thank you for the opportunity again to what
00:48:40.220
when are you going to be back uh saying the rosary at these uh abortion mills uh i'd love to go
00:48:49.440
tomorrow but uh when's next wednesday i get back on my regular schedule
00:48:53.720
fbi state troopers u.s attorneys merrick garland all of you suck on that okay mark hauck uh you're a good
00:49:09.660
cortez you always stand in awe we stand in awe guys like that i mean you and i are a little bit
00:49:16.840
uh a little bit too much of brawlers right you see these guys they're unbelievable they're
00:49:22.940
unbelievable yeah they're just the best it's i don't know it's unbelievable your thoughts i i don't
00:49:28.040
know that we could have summoned that kind of serenity uh that he did he's at a different higher
00:49:31.960
spiritual place god bless him but by the way as admirable as mark is it sounds like his wife
00:49:37.240
is even more heroic telling him you take that deal and you're not coming home uh that's that's a
00:49:42.940
wonderful life uh and a brave mother but you know listen this uh this story unfortunately uh it really
00:49:49.920
highlights for us the battle that we're in right and it is a spiritual battle a philosophical one
00:49:55.360
a political one and realize who our enemies are by the way our opponents in this battle they're not
00:50:01.120
irreligious okay as a matter of fact they're very devout committed to their pagan faith it is a
00:50:07.120
pagan faith of secular humanism they are deeply devout and one of their sacraments one of their
00:50:13.100
twisted unholy sacraments is abortion and they will defend it at all costs as shown in this case
00:50:20.760
i want to connect this also to more recent politics on capitol hill the so-called respect for marriage act
00:50:26.760
which actually had nothing at all to do with marriage and everything to do with weaponizing
00:50:31.240
the federal government to go after communities of faith christian churches specifically who happen
00:50:36.900
to believe that marriage is between a man and a woman as has been defined for time immemorial the
00:50:43.020
so-called respect for marriage act received enormous support from republicans and would have never passed
00:50:48.860
if it were not for republicans in both the house and the senate so realize the stakes of this battle
00:50:54.540
realize the consequences but also for those of us the america first movement recognize who's with us
00:50:59.940
and who's against us because many people who have an r after their name are not with us when it comes
00:51:04.760
to these foundational battles for society for civilization this is about way more than just
00:51:10.140
politics politics is definitely part of it but it's a civilizational battle realize that
00:51:15.420
real quickly before we go to break 90 second break and we're going to come back ortez
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once again give me get talk to people about why europe is so important to focus on about europe and
00:51:26.140
about how links to the united states look because europe is a preview of where we are headed okay it is
00:51:32.700
the prequel to where the united states is headed it is a continent that has already gone headfirst into
00:51:38.040
total secular humanism what i'm talking about the united states unfortunately is on that path we are on
00:51:43.660
that trajectory which we can change we have human agency to change it and we must or we will end up in a
00:51:49.920
place like england where you can literally be arrested for simply praying arrested for doing
00:51:55.200
something in your head in your soul that's where england is that's where we can be and will be if we
00:52:01.820
don't change course cortez hang on uh we're gonna take a short commercial break 90 seconds i've got
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uh dave walsh is going to join us naomi wolf is going to join us uh joe allen is going to join us
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uh we're packed up in the next hours just hang on short commercial break we'll be back in the warm
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