Bannon's War Room - Episode 2488： This Time It's Different

00:00:00.000 this is the primal scream of a dying regime pray for our enemies because we're going to

00:00:09.880 medieval on these people you're just not got a free shot all these networks lying about the

00:00:16.120 people the people have had a belly full of it i know you don't like hearing that i know you try

00:00:20.440 to do everything in the world to stop that but you're not going to stop it it's going to happen

00:00:23.640 and where do people like that go to share the big line mega media i wish in my soul i wish that any

00:00:31.640 of these people had a conscience ask yourself what is my task and what is my purpose if that

00:00:38.380 answer is to save my country this country will be saved war room here's your host stephen k bann

00:00:47.340 no i i think i raised this point with you earlier and it continues to be something i'm kind of

00:00:57.520 obsessed with here which is in 2010 this was something spending austerity the deficit debt

00:01:03.920 that republicans ran on they could plausibly say they were implementing this time around it was

00:01:08.620 just nowhere i covered the campaign very closely right it was not anywhere in fact i thought nate

00:01:13.720 cone uh made a good point he was talking about in march 2021 right so biden's just elected and

00:01:19.020 you've got the arp american rescue plan a morning council political poll found that more republicans

00:01:23.480 said they heard a lot about the news that the dr seuss estate had decided to stop selling six books

00:01:28.260 it deemed had offensive imagery then about the 1.9 trillion dollar stimulus package and acted into

00:01:33.460 the law that very week like they i think this is a misreading even of their own base there is no

00:01:40.560 it's like vestigial it's like writing last year's date on your checks in january this is what they're

00:01:47.240 doing because it's what they do but i don't even know like who wants it no one i mean it's completely

00:01:54.020 divorced from the last campaign and so there's clearly no public appetite for this and i agree

00:01:59.880 with you in their base i mean if you were to poll seniors in florida in arizona in georgia you know

00:02:06.460 right center seniors you know they would be they're going to be apoplectic about this and you know i

00:02:11.360 remember back in 2011 you know as we got closer you know this dominated not just news coverage but

00:02:17.660 social media and and because we went through that it's all going to happen much more intensively and

00:02:22.680 earlier so there's going to be a white hot spotlight on this and what you can see is the republicans

00:02:27.240 can't articulate what they want right you made a really important point they didn't last fall for

00:02:32.960 sure but right now they can and i think they're just expecting that they have to fight you know

00:02:37.720 they're all all auditioning to be the chief you know carnival barker and tucker carlson circus

00:02:42.960 essentially not worried about swing voters and clearly not worried about the economy so i think

00:02:47.740 you're right i think there's going to be a sense of whiplash voters are going to be like wait wait

00:02:50.580 now they had a miserable election you know they basically limped to the finish line and very

00:02:54.660 barely got across but even with that voters who might have voted for them in some districts say i didn't vote

00:02:59.520 for this you know it was to do something about inflation maybe or about crime not to basically

00:03:04.740 you know point a self-inflicted massive wound at the american economy potentially

00:03:10.020 i'll tell those parents right there that's why i'm here that's why i'm here to make sure their

00:03:26.860 children do not have and continue this debt if you just look if we continue the trajectory that

00:03:32.460 we're on in the next 10 years we'll spend eight trillion dollars just on interest eight trillion

00:03:38.800 dollars just on interest what that means though too because of the spending that has been going on

00:03:43.680 is that's why you have inflation america's strength will shrink it everyone has always said it

00:03:50.200 doesn't matter what occupation you're in you whether you're u.s general or not the greatest threat to

00:03:55.880 america is our debt our debt is now at 120 percent of gdp meaning our debt is larger than our economy

00:04:03.720 at the this is higher than at any time in american history and it's higher at any time in american

00:04:09.400 history when the revenues that are coming into government are higher than any other time so

00:04:14.680 we've got a lot of revenue we just have a spending problem and that's where i want to find that we

00:04:20.660 can find common ground yes can you commit that the u.s will not default on its obligations look

00:04:27.000 if i look at anything and you want to equate this if you have a child and you give them a credit card

00:04:34.160 and they spend that limit you're responsible for paying that credit card but the responsible thing

00:04:40.040 too is going forward not just raise the limit but look at how you're spending you know i look at chuck

00:04:47.480 schumer he's never passed a real budget he's never passed any appropriation bills but he puts a one

00:04:54.080 point um it is uh thursday two february in the year of our lord 2023 it is groundhog day and of course

00:05:04.700 um we're going to be monitoring that closely but poxatawney fell but it's like groundhog day

00:05:10.640 again we're here i want to make sure everybody understands the uh because i'm talking to the um

00:05:18.200 the the chairman of the the men and women that are the form the office of the chairman of the

00:05:25.040 creditors committee of the full faith and credit the united states government and i want to make sure

00:05:30.280 we're deconstructing this because uh it's going to be very important going forward so i got cortez

00:05:34.800 i got brat and we're going to introduce you uh to a um a gentleman from heritage and heritage is

00:05:41.540 just doing amazing fantastic work in fact steve cortez has got up on getter a great piece by dr

00:05:48.780 kevin roberts about the defense budget dr roberts for schedule dr roberts going to join us tomorrow

00:05:54.420 i think in the five o'clock hour to go through this amazing analysis of heritage of course we've had

00:05:59.780 mike howlon a lot they're doing great work we've got e.g e.j and tony is going to join us here

00:06:04.160 momentarily but i want to make sure everybody understands fully appreciates what's happening

00:06:09.540 here as cortez and brad can appreciate the the information warfare about this rachel maddow's gone

00:06:16.240 she punched out right remember she didn't want anything to do with this so she punched out to go

00:06:19.860 i don't know right the new west wing whatever she's doing uh she shows up once a week and you know

00:06:24.560 does her thing but she's out as the railhead of the thinking but she's got her acolyte chris hayes

00:06:29.740 is the new command center over at msnbc from msnbc and the new york times remember if the new

00:06:35.560 york times didn't publish every day msnbc would be a test pattern so it's all new york times washington

00:06:40.680 post uh you know the insiders but the railhead of that uh is uh is chris hayes okay and he brings

00:06:49.240 on floof last night that the the uh the obama guy and they're saying i i do this so you know this

00:06:55.400 is coming out of nowhere what are they even talking about nobody mentioned there's a campaign

00:06:58.360 oh no no no and they watch this show uh closely they understand that the important voices the

00:07:05.520 voices that mattered and that would be maga that would be this audience have been folk maniacally

00:07:10.200 focused on this massive national security interest uh concern of the out of control debt the rising

00:07:18.300 interest rates all of it maniacally for the last two years of steve uh cortez can tell you and bratt

00:07:24.560 when we you know we called all the shots on the american recovery plan the debt you know this time

00:07:29.460 it's totally different and they just want you know why do you even bother it's not popular nobody's

00:07:33.680 talking about this this is a not a ticking time bomb this is a bomb that's about to go off it's going

00:07:39.040 off and bratt's got uh some analysis that talks to you about the underlying real economy right and how

00:07:45.940 it's a dead carcass and the only way the con the system works the con works is this fiscal domination

00:07:52.460 by these by these by the uh uniparty that continues to have this massive spending discretionary spending

00:07:59.160 you know trillion dollars of the defense department train does here train does there but bing bing bing

00:08:03.660 bing and they got their buddies over the fed just continue to print the fiat money that system's

00:08:10.020 coming to an end it's not sustainable they talk about not sustainable as far as the green new deal goes

00:08:15.480 and all the the net zero carbon hey sustainability let's talk about financial sustainability and the

00:08:22.360 people getting a vote on this is the global south who control all the resources because they're going

00:08:27.380 to say hey look we control the resources and you keep giving these things called federal reserve notes

00:08:31.700 we don't know if they're worth it and maybe we do a basket with somebody else and have another

00:08:35.920 you're like you're like england you know after the war we want to have another uh another currency

00:08:41.880 another basket of currencies and take you off take off the dollar from being the prime reserve

00:08:45.820 currency and then we're argentina this audience gets it and they're going to all they're going to

00:08:50.380 try to do now he just said it's going to turn white hot nobody talked about this it's not popular hey

00:08:55.020 we're not here to do popular things we're here to do what's what's right for this constitutional republic

00:09:00.020 that was bequeathed us and we're not going to turn and we're not going to turn it over after our watch

00:09:05.700 with a massive financial crisis kenneth rogos book this time is totally different every one of these people

00:09:10.760 say it every time before their economy collapses we're at 120 percent and it's actually worse than

00:09:15.400 that remember that's just the face amount of the treasury treasury that's just the fit the 31 and a

00:09:21.820 half is just the face amount i think you could argue with the social security and the in the medicare

00:09:26.140 you get another 30 you're at 60 and and you should not touch medicare and social security you don't

00:09:30.940 need to we can get there without that um and and then you got to add the nine and a half trillion

00:09:36.900 dollars over a treasury excuse me at the federal reserve the balance sheet of the federal reserve

00:09:41.080 and hey note to self the scam's been they've been able to kick in i don't know 50 billion to 100

00:09:45.700 billion to but to help the deficit from profits made off the uh off from the fed because the

00:09:52.320 interest or interest rates now with the inverted yield curve mercatus mercatus the guys over george

00:10:00.320 mercatus they've got an analysis says we're sitting on a one trillion dollar loss over at the at the

00:10:07.000 treasury guests are kicking in so i want to bring in e.j uh and tony e.j thank you very much for joining

00:10:13.300 us here from heritage also from steve moore's fantastic group the uh the prosperity guys uh who

00:10:20.340 are always sitting there thinking about how we how do we get this economy really the real economy not

00:10:24.700 the fake financial economy you've got this piece that chills me to the bones about the great

00:10:29.500 depression 1932 and signals you see sir can you walk us through it and if denver can put that up

00:10:34.800 and if mo and grace i want to get it in all the chat rooms so everybody midnight writer uh the great

00:10:41.840 carly uh carly uh bonet all of them get this article and start reading it uh sir walk us through your

00:10:47.440 analysis certainly well steve thank you so much for having me and when when we look at last year's gdp

00:10:54.240 report what we find is that the headline number really belays a lot or betrays a lot of the details

00:11:00.380 in that report but no one seems to be willing to read the report and actually find those details

00:11:05.780 and one of the really really scary things in there is that real disposable income which is just your

00:11:11.060 disposable income adjusted for inflation dropped precipitously last year and 90 of that drop was due

00:11:18.980 entirely to inflation it fell a trillion dollars now you can say well the economy today is a lot larger

00:11:25.160 than it was in years past so let's look at that in percentage terms in percentage terms that's the

00:11:30.300 second worst drop ever the only time it was exceeded was 1932 the worst year of the great depression so if

00:11:39.200 you want to understand how are american consumers actually doing right now i think that's the perfect

00:11:44.780 piece of context um so so what are you saying what's the flashing signals i want to go back to

00:11:53.520 your thing about the great depression what are the flashing signals because brad's going to join us after

00:11:58.360 the break to talk about the underlying economy what are the flashing signals and what are your biggest

00:12:03.740 concerns we should be worried about well there's a couple of things steve one of which is that we like

00:12:09.060 to look at a business investment to see what is the trajectory of the economy going forward not just

00:12:14.580 simply where we are now because if investment is going down today that signals lower growth in the

00:12:19.880 future but also vice versa if investment today is increasing that signals that in the future the

00:12:25.100 economy will be growing faster and when you look at investment first of all you have residential

00:12:29.820 investment which is just falling off a cliff we have two quarters in a row where it's fallen by 25

00:12:34.400 percent or more but on top of that the only growth in investment right now is coming from a buildup in

00:12:40.680 inventories but why is that happening it's not because businesses are stocking up thinking that

00:12:45.880 they're going to have higher sales in the future no it's actually because they were unable in the

00:12:50.720 fourth quarter of last year to liquidate their inventories at current prices in other words people

00:12:55.820 literally were so strapped for cash that they started buying less and businesses were left holding goods

00:13:01.880 and services and so now they're going to have to turn around and sell those probably at a loss which will

00:13:07.960 lead to lower profits which again points to lower growth so even when you look at some of the

00:13:13.120 positive numbers in the report again like business investment you really need to figure out where is the

00:13:18.480 devil in these details because things are again not nearly as rosy as they appear

00:13:22.700 you're a data analytics guy at heritage and with the you're an analytics guy as you look at the

00:13:31.560 underlying analytics from the top line numbers what is your we've got about a minute here and i'm

00:13:37.340 holding you through the break what is your what is your forecast looking forward on this economy

00:13:41.500 i think we're going to see the the headline gdp numbers uh flatline and then turn south this year

00:13:48.400 uh there there really is just no way that you can escape spending printing and borrowing trillions and

00:13:55.340 trillions of dollars i mean we really should not be surprised with the results here

00:13:59.560 i tell you what ej just hang on for one second we're going to take a break i got brat lined up

00:14:06.200 with an analysis the underlying economy steve protesting i'm coming you know hunter biden

00:14:10.520 we we've dealing signal not noise here you know last night hunter biden's uh lawyer tried to gimmick

00:14:15.800 the gimmick is i don't know go to delaware go to doj you know want to pursue criminal charges on

00:14:21.420 on rudy myself everybody else on the laptop they basically admitted after two years of line about it

00:14:27.220 hello that laptop's actually ours it's not russian distant it's not russian disinformation

00:14:32.820 we don't have time for the nonsense hey let the grand jury deal with hunter's laptop let the house

00:14:38.800 you'll you'll see all you want to see abby low in the next week uh starting in the with the house

00:14:44.160 investigations which we'll get to in the second hour um short break the economy how it ties and

00:14:50.720 what does the ukraine war have to say about that all next in the war

00:14:54.500 will the lack of a red wave during the midterms lead to a more emboldened biden more wasteful

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00:16:51.760 it out now this will be an incredibly enjoyable fun but also informative as we fire off the football

00:16:58.380 into 2023 and beyond ej i just want to make sure at the end tell me about the spending again because

00:17:06.320 this has got to be cut this is why the bravery and um in intellectual leadership of heritage under

00:17:13.160 kevin roberts uh and cortez has been all over this he's got up on on uh on getter the um about

00:17:21.180 cutting the defense but we everything's on the table except for medicare and social security we got

00:17:25.040 to cut the defense budget right dr roberts gonna be on here tomorrow you guys have done an incredible

00:17:29.520 job what what was the comment you made at the end about spending sir so people are wondering why is

00:17:36.580 the economy in the shape it is in right now and it's simply because you cannot spend borrow and print

00:17:42.580 trillions upon trillions of dollars and not expect negative consequences look the sins of the past

00:17:48.500 always catch up with you be they moral or monetary and that's exactly what we're seeing today the average

00:17:54.400 family for example has lost six thousand dollars in purchasing power so in other words even though

00:18:00.160 their salaries their wages have been going up prices have been going up even faster and so they can

00:18:05.760 effectively buy less today than they could when biden took office but on top of that now that the federal

00:18:11.280 reserve is belatedly raising interest rates that's adding to borrowing costs on everything from from

00:18:16.560 credit cards to student loans from mortgages to auto loans that's another fourteen hundred dollars

00:18:20.920 that the average family has lost that's seventy four hundred dollars feel like you're poor

00:18:25.400 i was going to get to the said over heritage told me seventy four so that's how you add it together

00:18:31.000 the drop in real wages and in the interest rate seventy four hundred bucks a year on a family can you

00:18:36.520 afford that don't think so that's the real economy ej how do people oh by the way spending is a tax

00:18:42.900 it's a tax on you it's a tax um how do they get to how do people get to you over to heritage at the

00:18:49.300 prosperity group your social media all of it where they go uh they they can find me at heritage.org

00:18:55.780 they can find a lot of the reports i've written at committee to unleash prosperity.com and you can

00:19:01.060 also follow me on twitter at real ej and tony yeah uh ej thank you very much honor have you on here

00:19:09.260 i'll tell you i'm gonna go to uh brad but uh uh cortez let me bring you in for a second chris hayes

00:19:14.580 and chris this is what you got to do you got to get somebody a numbers guy you need an ej on your

00:19:18.740 staff or cortez right cortez uh hayes is a poet ploof is a poet they're poets right they're not

00:19:26.100 serious people they're poets you need you need data analytics guys chris hayes has a big miss

00:19:31.780 there what is that miss sir massive not thinking about by the way when you say you need a numbers

00:19:37.940 person you need a data guy do you think there's even one of those at 30 rock where msvc broadcast from

00:19:43.720 in the entire building do you think there's one hold it i don't think so yes stephanie rule stephanie

00:19:49.800 rule no she's in the investment banking business she's she's a new business person that's right

00:19:54.760 yeah she's a new business that's the one getting all seriousness here's what chris hayes just totally

00:19:59.880 misses and look when you watch a lot of these anchors it's not just chris hayes a lot of these

00:20:03.480 broadcasters try to talk about the economy it's like watching a toddler uh talk about physics all right

00:20:09.160 i mean they're just so out of their depth so out of the realm uh that they have no idea what has

00:20:14.040 changed chris hayes something material has changed and the american people know you don't have to be

00:20:18.280 an economist or a data person to know it interest rates have changed the regime of essentially free

00:20:24.920 money it was an artificially repressed interest rate regime of free money um that was caused by the

00:20:29.800 federal reserve as well as central banks all over the world we knew that it couldn't last forever

00:20:34.280 well that bubble was popped it was pierced by the policies of joe biden uh primarily by his attack

00:20:41.240 on american domestic energy production concurrent with the exorbitant borrowing and spending that

00:20:45.960 he engaged in the orgy of borrowing and spending uh with the full complicity of the washington

00:20:51.000 permanent washington political class including republicans that pierced uh that bubble okay and now

00:20:57.000 interest rates to be specific here on election day in 2020 okay when joe biden prevailed i don't say one

00:21:02.920 when he prevailed on election day 10-year treasury yield was 0.8 percent today it is 3.4 and that's

00:21:10.360 come down a bit by the way in recent weeks but it is still more than four times higher and the way

00:21:15.960 bond math works steve what matters is the percent of the percent in other words it is four times higher

00:21:22.040 by historical terms three percent might sound low but it's not at all low in the context of sub one

00:21:28.680 percent right so in other words think of it this way think if we had interest rates at five

00:21:32.120 percent ten-year treasury yield at five percent which is sort of more normal historically and

00:21:35.640 then they lurched to 20 okay which happened in the late 1970s it's a crisis well what we have right now

00:21:41.800 is an absolute crisis so chris hayes yes it has changed materially it has changed deficits

00:21:47.640 they always mattered but they really matter now so they're not dumb people they're cunning ploof

00:21:54.600 and here's the reason obama obama's the one that went to it went to zero negative interest rates

00:22:01.960 after the debacle the and i'm not making any excuses for hank paulson and and uh and bush and that crowd

00:22:08.280 who who were there with the uniparty it's all the uniparty remember obama supposed to be the most

00:22:12.680 progressive chris ploof answer this one this way i want to run cover for him supposed to be the most

00:22:16.840 progressive president in history where it really matters yeah the pro wrestling in the front you're

00:22:21.960 progressive where it really matters money what they they allowed the greatest concentration of

00:22:27.560 wealth in the history of the american republic on obama's watch and he's a running dog for wall

00:22:33.320 street okay just like bernie sanders all these guys give this happy talk chris hayes msmc all the happy

00:22:39.160 talk you would allow the interest rates go to zero the greatest concentration but real estate stocks this

00:22:45.320 is when the wealthy it was turbo this was the beginning of the oligarchs okay that was on obama's watch

00:22:51.960 the beginning they got a great book called confidence man and it's quite frankly it's

00:22:55.240 embarrassing obama sitting there's a constitutional lawyer he's like what what this thing's so over

00:22:59.960 his head that's the way wall street rolls that's the way he runs in the democratic party by the way

00:23:04.520 robert reich's got this piece in the guardian about what we have to do is tax hey look for the oligarchs

00:23:10.280 all the oligarchs are either left-wing progressive democrats or they're the worst rhinos in the world

00:23:16.840 that hate maga do you think i have any problem with the oligarchs being taxed well in at war room

00:23:22.840 we do not okay we would take reich's thing and and and so we see that and we raise you because it's

00:23:29.400 all the uniparty wealthy come on baby you want to do that hey i'm all in you want to you want to get

00:23:35.400 these titans you larry fink and ken griffin you think we have any problem of uh you know not i don't

00:23:41.960 think it's tax i think it's reparations i think it's reparations what they've stolen from the american

00:23:46.520 people on obama's watch and on biden's watch uh steve cortez thoughts yeah and by the way data

00:23:52.840 point on that point of of the obama biden administration what they did in their eight

00:23:57.320 years the supposedly most progressive administration ever which massively exacerbated wealth inequality

00:24:03.960 according to federal reserve numbers during those eight years only the top 10 of earners saw their

00:24:11.160 net worth increase the bottom 90 percent almost all of america saw their net worth decline and for

00:24:19.080 black americans specifically for black american households they lost one third of their net worth

00:24:24.440 during those eight years wiped out we think about that you've never got the whole obama duck hey chris

00:24:29.880 hey chris hayes david please suck on that come back tonight and let's answer that question obama buried

00:24:35.800 the african americans they destroy a third of their wealth hispanics almost the bad so don't give me

00:24:41.320 your happy talk and all this i we never heard this was not on the campaign trail stop doing the clown

00:24:46.680 show i tell you let's do i i'm going to show you where the i'm going to go back and do two things

00:24:50.760 with the cortez and bring a day bread in with his analysis let's do that let's do the can we hit the

00:24:54.600 two uh can we hit the two and i'm going to introduce brad let's roll are you shocked at your latest

00:25:00.120 utility bills well if you are you're hardly alone but for millions of americans it's an absolute

00:25:06.040 crisis because they are literally having their power shut off let's look at the numbers in a chalk

00:25:10.760 talk from the chicago sun times data last year january through october the most recent month we have

00:25:16.920 1.5 million americans had their power shut off how does that compare in context well for electricity

00:25:23.880 shutoffs of 29 percent over the prior year for natural gas up 76 percent over the prior year and

00:25:30.760 this stunning number may get even worse soon because prices are spiking for example in california right

00:25:37.560 now according to the utility socal gas typical winter heating bill has gone from 130 a month last year

00:25:44.520 to 315 a month this year a rise of 142 percent this reality is simply unaffordable

00:25:53.720 for many many americans it's a consequence of biden's war on american energy and the exorbitant

00:25:59.240 borrowing and spending of the washington unit party we're counting on the gop house to hold the line

00:26:06.280 patriots tragically massive corporate layoffs they are accelerating especially in the tech space

00:26:12.200 but one job that's very much in demand being a repo man because americans cannot afford their cars

00:26:18.280 let's look at the numbers in a chalk talk last year 2022 americans lost one trillion dollars

00:26:23.640 in real disposable income that was the worst percentage drop since the great depression

00:26:29.000 making it incredibly hard for americans to deal with rising interest rates and more expensive loans

00:26:33.640 on things like automobiles car payments one thousand dollars a month or higher that's now 16 of all

00:26:41.080 auto loans all-time high for context three years ago that number was only six percent which translates into

00:26:48.920 a giant jump in the percentage of americans who are severely delinquent in their auto loans meaning

00:26:54.840 they haven't paid in three months we just put in a number of almost six percent there which is worse

00:27:01.560 than the levels of the great recession of 2008 2009. patriots these numbers this economic reality

00:27:08.360 makes it imperative that the house gop hold the line regarding the debt ceiling

00:27:13.080 um steve let me get to you we're gonna bring brad in at the break we're gonna take a break right

00:27:20.040 here and bring dave bread in because this is about there's two things and this is all the happy talk

00:27:24.280 and spin you're seeing watch the chris hayes is not just that a lot of the conservative media and

00:27:28.440 what's happening up here in capitol hill basically there's a depression going on for working class

00:27:33.800 people in the way that in their lives and the reason is the underlying real economy the productive

00:27:39.960 economy what is really creates jobs and uh in value and wealth that is um that is dormant right

00:27:48.600 now it's dead it's a carcass all they do it is juice it up with this deficit spending and they hit

00:27:54.120 the button over the computer at the fed and create the fiat money that is over it's the end of the con

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00:29:29.720 okay on a day that uh hunter biden hunter biden's lawyers all upset they finally it's called a

00:29:37.720 self-own after two years they admitted it's not russian disinformation it's actually mine after all

00:29:43.800 right and they're going up there the well i don't know delaware doj these guys are criminals these guys

00:29:48.120 are criminals well bro strap in because the house investigations are going to be coming and the

00:29:54.600 word is immediately after the illegitimate joe biden who's not really president he's illegitimate

00:30:02.040 he's going to give his state of the union i think mccarthy just said like back in jefferson in those

00:30:05.720 days just just send it over send it in writing and you know we'll have a clerk read it um and i hope

00:30:11.720 that there's appropriate response uh by the by the uh maga wing of the republican party during this fiasco

00:30:18.520 the state of the union uh of all his lies and misrepresentation don't let him lie call him out

00:30:23.540 right there uh and the next day they're going to start they're going to start to hunter biden this is

00:30:28.200 what i'd love it comer and these guys are i think on point right now a lot going on behind the scenes

00:30:32.840 we'll we'll break news when we can uh dave bratt uh by the way mypillow.com promo code war room the

00:30:38.280 launch of mypillow 2.0 hey and i agree with citizens free press you know mike lindell what he did the

00:30:45.000 he owned jimmy kimmel now he did it inside the inside the whatever is the the the the um like

00:30:51.640 the the cage right but i thought he owned him in the opening uh monologue was great mike got

00:30:57.080 had over a million or two million hits already this is the way he gets the word out to people who

00:31:01.880 don't watch war room or don't watch lindell tv right it's a massive it's a massive all those ratings

00:31:07.000 you know gut feeling these guys crushing he's still got big ratings because it's broadcast uh mypillow.com

00:31:12.420 promo code war room you got to go to get the launch of mypillow 2.0 if the if the original

00:31:17.620 mypillow uh was your sleeping companion this is next level okay totally next level of technology

00:31:23.980 mike's worked on this for a long time boom it's out you're gonna love it buy one get one free

00:31:30.060 mypillow.com promo code war room check it out now dave uh bratt uh what did you think did mccarthy

00:31:36.480 have it right about the credit card before you because you're gonna walk us through whether

00:31:39.880 where the economy really is not that not the fake economy that we're just we're just spending this

00:31:44.780 money we don't have and and and burying our children and grandchildren sir yeah i think he

00:31:51.000 had the intent right but i think he goofed up the metaphor uh the kid didn't spend too much the parents

00:31:56.040 spent 32 trillion too much uh now the next generation's got to pay it off or else the fed's

00:32:01.820 going to run inflation to pay it off so uh that does matter

00:32:05.240 talk to walk us through your walk us through your charts walk us through your uh analysis of where

00:32:12.860 the real economy is the productive economy yeah yeah first i i just want to respond to ploof uh for a

00:32:20.160 minute uh it it's always interesting after the left destroys everything right after the marxists

00:32:26.300 destroy china and russia and every civilization they've run uh it's incumbent on the judeo-christian

00:32:33.940 principles to come in and clean up the mess and usually those people do it humbly and so you know

00:32:39.040 i don't have to go through and recite the you know magna carta renaissance reformation enlightenment

00:32:44.300 all the great things we did uh the puritans founded harvard whose motto was truth for christ and

00:32:51.720 church if you said that today at harvard you'd probably get booted off campus all right but the

00:32:57.640 point of all that is the christians in their kindness gave over harvard and yale and princeton

00:33:03.480 and all the great schools you can name all of them were all christian founded gave them to secular

00:33:09.000 society uh as a gift not to force religion right we don't believe religion should be forced

00:33:14.860 and so uh ploof what are we aiming at we're aiming to restore the greatness and the decency

00:33:21.600 and the character of the judeo-christian west that's what we're aiming at but i'll be i'll

00:33:28.100 be polite and i'll just run through some numbers here uh we made a secular handshake uh the seminaries

00:33:33.460 went across the tracks we gave you uh the secular world the universities but unfortunately you goofed

00:33:39.260 it all up your economists aren't making any sense right now and so i'll just go over the first chart we

00:33:45.140 got hold on hang on hang on no no hang on hang on because i understand you from liberty and you

00:33:50.540 always believe that you know the economy because of the spiritual war but cortez i didn't realize

00:33:55.320 we're going to trigger brat uh so much i thought we're gonna get the numbers and get into the

00:33:59.940 details man he's been sitting there seething right seething you gave those ivy leagues man we created

00:34:06.500 brown we created dartmouth we created harvard and yale and we gave them over and you got you end up

00:34:12.120 with guys like obama and ploof right chris hayes that's what you get for your effort yeah

00:34:16.640 speaking of obama and his alma mater columbia university i actually just this morning uh

00:34:22.480 coincidentally posted this on my social media there was a massive student survey of thousands

00:34:27.220 and thousands of students all over the country and they asked them about free speech issues

00:34:30.660 and this group ranked 203 universities on the topic of free speech dead last at 203 columbia

00:34:39.500 university ivy league columbia barack obama university but steve here's also bad news before we get

00:34:44.660 cocky either you or i our alma mater you went to graduate school i went to undergrad georgetown

00:34:49.580 university number 200 200 out of 203 almost the very seller when it comes to free speech in a

00:34:58.560 university yeah leave it to the modern jesuits right leave it by the way i went there when it

00:35:04.940 was still quasi-catholic university cortez you were that you were at the tail end of that

00:35:09.060 now it's just stop hold it so uh brad let me go back to you now that you got it off your chest

00:35:17.080 i know you're seething right i know you're seething you got it off your chest let's go yeah

00:35:22.160 see see the let's go back to the uh let's go back because you're right and you make a great point

00:35:27.860 that the bolsheviks and the in the soviets destroyed russia and destroyed the russian people

00:35:34.200 the the the the the uh this chinese communist party are still the butchers and the in the and

00:35:40.620 destroy the lao baijing every day it's absolutely correct and you're seeing it here i just want to

00:35:45.320 duly know before we go at 203 columbia university is also the home of the columbia school of

00:35:50.440 journalism right the journalism reviewed the revered thing of free speech hey baby hey i got a thing

00:35:56.240 from hippocrates a physician heal thyself i want you at the journalism things columbia stop telling us

00:36:03.560 about the rest of the country once you get the chart and go get go from 203 get a get a one handle

00:36:09.200 in front of let's go to 199 let's aspire and get the twos right dave brett on the uh on the economy

00:36:16.080 sir yeah if the guys uh in denver want to put up a chart one uh this is just to respond yesterday was

00:36:22.840 the big you know federal reserve day uh some breaking news he mentioned the term disinflation i think they're

00:36:28.460 getting a little too ahead of their skis uh but the gdp uh growth rate that you know they're they're

00:36:34.220 talking about three percent and so the average person looking at that go how in the world can

00:36:38.700 that be so i i just want to put it in broader context you this is cbo they're usually a little

00:36:44.480 too optimistic uh but these are the numbers that came out yesterday too and if you look at the far

00:36:49.240 right from 2026 to 2031 the long run trend is we're going to be growing at only one and a half percent

00:36:56.780 uh gdp growth and so and then the next chart uh why is that uh and here's your dead carcass of the

00:37:04.260 economy uh the the the two most uh steve cortez and ej just got done putting it very well capital inputs

00:37:13.240 uh in in intro macro class we usually just talk about capital as the major cause of economic growth

00:37:20.820 and then when you get a little bit more advanced and you see it there capital way over to the far

00:37:25.320 right is only going to be growing at one percent and then the most important variable is called

00:37:30.220 total factor productivity uh that's the free markets the animal spirits the entrepreneurship the

00:37:36.760 innovation the patents all of that all of that is only growing over at the far right

00:37:42.080 at uh one percent uh at the end of the year and we we've gone over all this with the head of

00:37:47.300 northwestern uh uh the greatest scholar on productivities uh robert gordon uh and productivity

00:37:53.700 has been going down steadily for the past 40 years productivity down in the united states of america for 40

00:38:01.900 years so mr ploof uh in secular terms that's what we're aiming at uh rust vote has a budget where every

00:38:10.020 line item is going to be aimed at that at productivity uh no pronoun studies no crazy

00:38:15.240 stuff no marxist stuff just all we want is productivity grows so the americans can have

00:38:20.100 freedom again put a pin in it cortez you know this is why what rust vote in the war room this is the

00:38:26.620 focus is to make sure any spending goes to the real economy and to build productivity but let's let me

00:38:33.500 just pull back for a second cortez jump in here on brett at one percent dave and steve and at one and

00:38:39.600 a half percent the model doesn't work this is my point hey when you're looking at a business model

00:38:44.660 you go hey guys this doesn't work so right away you have to triage you got to have you got to step in

00:38:51.180 let me just repeat this at these numbers the real numbers and of course uh you know brad just tells

00:38:56.880 you hey there i think they may be a little optimistic this math doesn't work cortez first

00:39:02.140 and then we'll go back to brad just on the first chart you're exactly right you know and i think you

00:39:06.160 know to use an analogy let's put it in terms of sort of personal finance let's say you have an

00:39:09.500 adjustable rate mortgage but your real earnings which is the case for most americans your real

00:39:14.360 earnings are going down while your debt service costs are rising dramatically well you have to

00:39:20.820 increase those earnings significantly or you need to somehow in your life massively cut your expenses

00:39:26.720 or guess what you're going to get foreclosed out of that home that is the reality that is faced

00:39:31.100 nationally that that sort of micro reality is the macro reality that is faced nationally by the

00:39:36.240 united states because again we've had the luxury in recent years of artificially low interest rates

00:39:42.540 and the profligate spending that flowed out of that era set the table for the current terrible tough

00:39:49.320 decisions look there are no good options here okay let's just be brutally honest about this let's be

00:39:53.180 adults there are no good options right now okay yeah but as adults and as inheritors of the

00:39:59.060 greatest republic and the greatest economy in the history of the world we have to confront these

00:40:03.800 tough decisions and we have to be dispassionate and honest with the american people chris hayes isn't

00:40:09.060 honest joe biden isn't uh jerome paul the fed is not jenny yellow is not we need to know it's all it's

00:40:14.600 it's all it's all it's all it's not it's not popular it's not just no good options there's no easy

00:40:21.300 decisions here that's why this that's why the maga uh the maga has to be the chairman of the creditors

00:40:27.160 committee creditors committee are not garden parties they're not fun okay but to get back

00:40:33.080 to the animal spirits and the productivity because right there you you said something was months ago

00:40:38.780 uh about a year ago you said the bond market you know you see that you see in the bond market numbers

00:40:44.780 they're not buying off in the biden plan bratch is giving you what the biden plan is the reality of

00:40:49.640 the math and the best of the bond market goes they do not salute they do not support this correct

00:40:55.480 brother cortez no exactly correct and think of the bond market use another analogy think of the

00:41:00.000 bond market essentially as the bank right that is loaning money to the united states and the bond

00:41:04.240 market was willing to loan money to the u.s government at incredibly low rates in a past era

00:41:10.020 that is no longer the case the bank is saying you have a broken business model so if we're going to

00:41:15.260 continue to loan you money we want much higher interest rates so it's an entirely new interest rate

00:41:20.700 regime you know again uh you know we can't just wring our hands about it right the gnashing of teeth

00:41:24.860 doesn't pay the bills okay this is the reality we face let's be adults about it and let's make

00:41:30.120 significant spending cuts significant fiscal decisions right which involve sacrifices clearly

00:41:36.620 right and one of those sacrifices on the right has to be we can't just in a knee jerk reflexive

00:41:42.760 way say we are always at all times going to raise defense spending no defense spending needs to be

00:41:47.720 prioritized how can we actually get safer but spend less right those kinds of uh that kind of

00:41:53.140 analysis of what needs to happen and and and mccarthy i think does hurt himself by talking about

00:41:59.320 this waste fraud and abuse okay yes they're all that but that's that that's that's something they

00:42:03.880 throw out there to take you off the ball that's that's noise not signal right you need this gets

00:42:09.460 down like in defense spending to cut all these you got to take out the commitments right once you start

00:42:14.440 backing off the commitments then all of a sudden you can get to real numbers you can get to real cuts

00:42:18.380 we can't do everything all these marginal programs all these social marginal programs

00:42:23.820 are all going to be up on the chopping block the bloated defense budget it's bloated you want to

00:42:28.960 take down the ccp want to defend taiwan hey i can cut a hundred billion dollars and put the ccp out of

00:42:33.400 business in 100 days you have to have fully integrated uh you know unrestricted warfare right

00:42:41.640 economics capital markets technology cyber all of it right you just can't build for you can't we can't

00:42:48.400 spend a trillion dollars and be looking for every kinetic war in the in the world it can't happen

00:42:53.780 and the first cut has got to be ukraine how about this for ukraine zero let those let this let the

00:43:00.220 guys in davos see how pretty davos was how nice it was let the guy let the swiss write me a big check

00:43:04.860 the swiss write a big check you're so worried about austria those beautiful ski towns write a big check

00:43:10.300 italy big check france big check germany big check let the americans get health care you write the

00:43:16.980 big checks to uh for ukraine you're so interested in ukraine you write the hundred billion dollars

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00:45:57.660 there got to see that speech right steve cortez um by the way the greatest line ever i give the old

00:46:05.400 milton she's ambitious as lucifer and cortez comes in yeah and even less principled it was so good i put

00:46:12.340 it up on getter last night on an article about nikki um the uh let's go back to bratt

00:46:17.800 bratt talk to me about the underlying real economy of the united states of america sir

00:46:21.940 yeah well you went off on the animal spirits a little bit and uh cannot overemphasize that piece

00:46:29.860 it's totally missing uh right some great uh scholars uh deidre mccloskey uh if people love economics go get

00:46:37.480 her volume called bourgeois dignity uh goes over uh competing views of what caused growth and her

00:46:43.940 thesis is modern growth started uh when we finally started to call business morally good right you can

00:46:50.140 go back to max vaver and the protestant ethic and people got out of bed every day with a purpose in

00:46:54.980 life i think that's in one of your talks uh what's the purpose uh what is your task uh and if you don't

00:47:01.480 wake up with a task it's hard to have those animal spirits uh effective so the kids these days are being

00:47:06.800 taught everything under the sun except why you're on the planet and so that does matter so i went over

00:47:12.320 the uh you know the economic growth figures the investment figures the total factor productivity

00:47:17.800 figures all down uh why does this matter uh the next slide uh denver a bunch of uh bouncing balls on

00:47:24.920 there in macro intro you'll learn a thing called the rule of 72 this chart shows it uh just take that

00:47:32.740 number 72 if you're growing at one percent gdp grows at one percent it will take you 72 years to

00:47:40.180 double your income as a person or as a country so up at the top if uh if you're growing at two percent

00:47:47.020 gdp it will take you 35 right 70 divided by two is 35 years to double your income to go from 56 grand

00:47:55.620 to 100 grand a year so what we're talking about is significant and these are in real terms right so

00:48:00.880 that's a real doubling of your welfare and then what people may not get is just one percent

00:48:06.700 differences make a huge difference in economic growth so i just got done showing you the charts

00:48:12.620 they're all up at bratt economics on getter uh with the you know the one percent gdp growth uh and then

00:48:20.140 the uh and then the consequences and the productivity falling but if you go from two percent on that chart

00:48:26.620 uh to three percent you go from doubling your income in 35 years to doubling it in only 25 years

00:48:33.620 and so forth so the the consequences of these choices we're making and the budget we're having

00:48:39.560 and the debt ceiling that the media is going to spin it as creating chaos uh we're not creating chaos

00:48:46.140 we're creating rationality in economics again very key that we get confident we are not creating

00:48:53.540 chaos we are the adults in the room that are asking for the receipts we're asking for your

00:48:59.780 uh economic growth uh projections and how you get there given the current biden white house budget

00:49:05.900 and then we'll present russ vote and show you how we achieve uh both better outcomes for the american

00:49:11.400 people and economic growth for your children and a plausible way of paying off the debt

00:49:17.040 yeah this is this is why russ's whole 10 years to get to a balanced budget which i think it ought

00:49:23.740 to be harder because i can do bigger cuts quicker um but we're mac the knife here remember you're in

00:49:30.960 the war room so we're and i was in the white house i was a hardliner on this and hardliner quite frankly

00:49:36.300 on tax increases for the oligarchs that's the thing where i'm gonna get we're gonna we're reaching

00:49:42.780 out to reich to get him on here and i know they're all going to melt down now they're all going to vapor

00:49:47.200 lock what band is for taxes no we know we have a concentration of wealth in this nation i'm not

00:49:52.140 talking about rich people i'm not talking about wealthy people we want everybody aspire to create

00:49:56.360 value and to have wealth if that's what they aspire to i'm talking about oligarchs the founders in this

00:50:01.820 country we fought a revolution to get away from the uh the the worthless uh landed aristocracy of the

00:50:10.540 british empire plus the british east india company in these new monopolies with oligarchs that you could

00:50:16.300 see what's happening that's what happened in india right we fought a revolution led by our smuggler

00:50:21.680 john hancock and sam adams and a couple of three guys that like playing outside the guardrails

00:50:27.400 okay you know the revolutionary generation you know they had a couple three bandits in there

00:50:31.980 that said hey i think i got a better idea we're building a new nation here go screw yourself right

00:50:36.560 we're not going to play by your rules we're not going to play your game right now we're back into

00:50:40.460 an oligarchy we've allowed it in progressive presidents you know david fluke please come forward

00:50:45.660 to make the argument of why you were the running dog right for wall street and papered up with all

00:50:51.040 your pretty speeches all the most progressive under obama that led to the greatest concentration of

00:50:56.460 wealth in the nation's history bernie sanders why don't you deal with that first before you start

00:51:00.080 wandering around talking around give me a minimum wage or 15 an hour right that's all pro wrestling

00:51:05.140 that's to take your eye off reality and no i think hey remember all the oligarchs are either

00:51:10.900 hard-left progressives globalist uniparty or even they get republican they all hate maga it's the

00:51:18.380 ken griffins of the world do we owe them anything no we don't owe them anything zero so no we're for

00:51:24.500 defense cuts and look i gave what seven and a half years of my life to service this country my

00:51:29.520 daughter also which we should do we believe as citizens you owe that to your nation but we can see

00:51:35.240 the defense and it's not fraud waste waste fraud and abuse stop that that's ridiculous this is

00:51:39.860 stupid hour this is not about waste fraud and abuse yes you ought to cut that out all the time

00:51:43.940 right as as a given this is about systemically going through and restructuring this day bratt

00:51:49.600 once again where do people go to get your analysis because you're putting up stuff that people got to

00:51:53.400 see every day yeah i've been posting a ton bratt economics on getter and just you've been covering

00:51:59.720 the war uh very well just so people understand that of course war spending and the defense uh contractors

00:52:06.780 and oligarchs in that uh realm of course will contribute to economic growth in the short run

00:52:13.540 but all of those resources are terribly misplaced terribly misplaced in terms of producing productivity

00:52:20.580 for the next generation beat our swords into plowshares as the uh as uh the bible tells us dave bratt i know

00:52:29.180 dave brask i now go say as an evangelical christian dave brask i go now say a rosary because steve

00:52:34.080 bannon mentioned tax cuts tax increases tax increases on the wealthy while he was on brett we love your

00:52:40.920 brother cortez is going to stick around monica crowley is going to join us next 90 seconds war room

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Bannon's War Room - February 02, 2023

Episode 2488： This Time It's Different

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