Episode 2490: Kari Lake Story Of Truth
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Summary
Steve and Carrie Lake join us in the War Room to talk about their trip to the Prayer Breakfast in Washington, D.C. to support pro-Second Amendment candidates, and what it means to be a conservative in the 21st century.
Transcript
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I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that,
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And where do people like that go to share the big lie?
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I wish that any of these people had a conscience.
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It's Thursday, 2 February, the year of our Lord, 2023.
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That was a shot from this morning's prayer breakfast here in Washington, D.C.
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By the way, I think we're going to have Gates there tomorrow.
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Last time he was on your show, or was it on TimCast,
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But he was saying that Trump needs to pick someone who could attract mama bears.
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We'll have to go into that, because I'm going to be sitting with you for a while.
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We're doing coffee talk with Steve Bannon and Carrie Lake.
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It's a totally different take today in the war room.
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Cortez only comes by now for the war room to get the espresso.
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You came all the way back to be at the prayer breakfast.
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If people know, if you Google Carrie Lake's name today, you Google prayer breakfast, your
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If prayer and Carrie Lake are trending together, then I'm thrilled because, you know, we all
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Last weekend when we were at the AZ GOP leadership election, and I got a chance to speak, and
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we're so happy because our candidates won, I ran into the greatest man to ever walk the
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halls of Congress, Paul Gosar, and he invited me to the prayer breakfast.
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Although I had a couple of my friends say, ah, it's kind of gone a little bit woke.
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And we decided then to kind of, to expand things out and visit with some real great patriots
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So we went to the prayer breakfast this morning.
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I'm telling you, you walk around with Paul Gosar.
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It's so obvious, the fake news, anybody they're attacking, they truly are the rock stars for
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American freedom, for the Constitution, for our rights and liberties.
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Because you walk around the halls of Congress with Paul Gosar, Congressman Gosar.
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And everyone, shockingly, I was surprised how many congressmen and women knew me.
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And we got some really big, big congressional heroes who were stopping to take pictures.
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You are, when they, when they open the dictionary to the problem, you're, you're, you're, your
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faces that they don't want the people to represent them.
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Because the whole, the whole thing here, you see, this is house of, this town is house of
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It's, it's a combination of the, of the ridiculous, but also the mean spirited.
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And their number one thing is they don't want to have anybody represent the people.
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It's very much like ancient Rome and the Roman Republic.
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That's the thing that upsets the Senate right there in the house to the people that run
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But that's why you coming back to the prayer breakfast is the worst thing.
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So what was your, Joe Biden was there today and Joe Biden said he and McCarthy had, he
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and McCarthy had a, had a, um, had a good meeting yesterday in the debt ceiling.
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And remember they wanted to work together and treat everybody.
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But now that the investigation is going to start next week, right?
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Every, all of a sudden they want to, he wants to pray everybody and be everybody's
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Um, no, I mean, we, I, I am, uh, and, and, and God is a, we have a forgiving God, but we
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Sometimes you have to, uh, learn a little bit and, um, God may be forgiving.
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Jesus may be forgiving, but when it comes to Joe Biden and the crimes he's done against
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this country, Carrie Lake is not, I'm not forgiving.
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So talk to you, let's talk, tell us about your faith.
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Tell us about in Iowa as a young kid, you were raised Catholic.
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Well, I, my parents, um, came together from the wrong side of the, they were on the wrong
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And at the time when they got married, that was like being, uh, on the wrong side.
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Now you just go, can I find someone who's got the same faith?
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That would be a really big plus, but being Catholic and Lutheran was a big deal.
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My mom being an only child married my dad at a, um, army base and her father disowned
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her for six years because she didn't get married in the Catholic church.
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That's how, that's how serious of a Catholic that my mom was.
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Obviously nine babies later, you can tell she was a Catholic her whole life.
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And so I was raised a little bit Lutheran, a little bit Catherine, a Catholic.
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And, um, a few years ago I found an evangelical church that just changed my life.
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I mean, like walked in and felt the Holy Spirit and felt for the first time, really a deep
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I mean, how did you, well, let me, let me go back a little bit.
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I mean, you know, I did confirmation in both churches.
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I was Lutheran, you were confirmed Catholic Lutheran.
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I actually had a little bit later in the Catholic church cause I got confirmed a little bit
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So I went through all of that and I really, um, I'm a person of deep spirituality, but then
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I get into television and I work weekends for a million years.
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And you know, when you're working, television is not spiritual.
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It's really hard to, it's like you're reading a Bible at your desk and that's normal.
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So I worked weekends for so long that how do you go to church when you're working Sunday
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And then, you know, you just kind of go through that phase in life where you're young.
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I mean, I'm going to drop some honest honesty here.
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Um, when my children were born, the Catholic church was going through that phase where a
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lot of the, um, the sex scandal was coming out and I'm, you know, you're holding a precious
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baby in your arms and you're looking at what's happening.
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And so we kind of pulled back a little bit, still were Catholic, uh, belong to a church,
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And only when I got severely canceled during my TV career for a really stupid reason and
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found myself going, wow, could this cancellation be the end of me?
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Because I actually, I said something truthful, but you know how it is.
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If you say something truthful, you get canceled.
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Um, did I really get down on my knees and say, God, get me through this.
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And my daughter at the time, she, the, everyone was hating on me and she came to me and said,
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mom, I want you to wear my cross for protection.
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The social media is just nasty and people are threatening.
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The next day, the cavalry came in, the conservative world came in and backed me up.
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I mean, being canceled in 2019 in a really hardcore way brought me back to my faith.
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I was, I was sent home from work because half of the station was sent home because of COVID.
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We didn't want it to spread, you know, so half the people worked at the station.
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I worked at home and I'm at home working and I noticed my old Bible sitting on my desk.
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I mean, I read the Bible parts of it when I was going through confirmation as a teenager
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and in my twenties, when you read the Bible again in your fifties,
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You've got all of your life experience and you're reading that going, Oh my gosh, there's
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All of the self-help you try to do to make yourself a better person.
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And I found myself, uh, while I was at home anchoring the news, reading the scripts on my
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iPad during commercial breaks, just reading the Bible, commercial break would end.
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And now I got to go back to the lies, meaning the news.
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And that was kind of when I was deciding to leave my profession because COVID I early in
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COVID, I started realizing there's something not right here.
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We saw, um, the inability to even talk about people's concerns about the 2020 election.
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Arizona being the railhead and being, being the centerpiece of the world.
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And there was no interest to cover that from the editor, from the producers and the editors
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They started realizing we have to stop covering this because we're going to start alerting people
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And that's when I was, I always felt that when I did my job in journalism, I was the
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last line of defense to make sure the truth was getting out to the people.
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You might have some liberal producer or somebody who writes something crazy, but you're the
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last line between you and the viewer at home of telling the truth.
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I found myself occasionally going, this is just a half truth.
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And so, um, the hangup for me, to be honest, was I make a lot of money.
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22 years at the stage, 27 years in Arizona, 22 years as the number one anchor and the number
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one network that I helped build into number one.
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And the, I just cared about the people I was talking to.
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And I thought, if, if I can't be honest with them, then who am I?
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Once you realize it goes beyond being on, it's unbiased or it's biased.
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And then when you realize it's lies, it's immoral, it's immoral work.
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And if you continue doing that, then you are immoral.
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Was the spiritual awakening a predicate for that awakening about the bigger thing having
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because the, the, the throwing away or walking away from a 25 year career when people, when
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you, the, the, the tough stuff you have to do and all the work you have to do to get
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to that place, would it have happened if you had not had this beginning spiritual awakening
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I think, I think being canceled was really big.
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It was like, you know, you, when you get down on your knees and beg to God, please get
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You, you feel like your whole world's kind of crumbling.
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And then I, I found myself coming back to God in my faith.
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And then a couple of like a year and a half later, COVID hits and we all get sent home
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And I just felt more than ever starting to read the Bible again.
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I, I started looking into our church that we belong to, and it was appointment only.
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But you know, they had to, they had to shut churches down and they had to shut our schools
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Think about the small precinct voting that we used to do.
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You went to the little Presbyterian church down the road or the Methodist church.
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In a small precinct where they could count the votes that night.
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Or you went to the little, the vote centers are a scam.
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Or you'd go to the school and people go, you can't hand count.
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I go, Oh, you mean it'll take forever, like 13 days, which is what it takes now to count
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So I found out, I was like, I need my butt in a church.
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And that's when a friend of mine said, come with me, come with me to church.
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And she told me about the church she belonged to.
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And I go, isn't that one of those mega churches?
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I walk in and the, the music, the worship was so powerful that the first three times I
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I felt a connection with Jesus Christ that I'd never felt before.
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It was like, there was no filter between me and the church to get to Jesus Christ.
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It was like me and Christ and three times, the first three times I went, it was tears.
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What did you take away from Iowa, the roots, and about being from Iowa and this kind of Iowa?
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Because many people in Arizona are from the Midwest or from the Chicago area.
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What set of values, what growing up in Iowa, what did Cary Lake, the Cary Lake we know today, what did you bring from that?
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Every time I go back, I think, thank God I was born here.
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I was actually born, I'm from a Mississippi River town, the Iowa side of it.
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But my mom, being Catholic, wanted us kids to be born in a Catholic hospital, so we drove across the river and we were born in Illinois and then we grew up in Iowa.
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Just, I mean, having a big family, you just don't see that very often.
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The ability where I'm from to just go outside and go, you know, go run and play outside, play in the street all day.
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And then when I was about 10, my parents did get a divorce when I was seven.
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But, you know, my dad joked when I was, I was probably in high school giving him off.
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And now I laugh at it because most people are parents for eight.
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But he had had kids in the house by the time I hit high school for 35 years.
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And then when he went to work, he was in a classroom full of kids all day, every day.
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And he was also pretty well-known because he was a well-known football coach.
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And, you know, teachers are kind of famous in the community.
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You run into your teacher out in the real world and it's like, oh, I just saw my teacher outside of their environment.
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That's why these teachers, they come in and talk all about this personal stuff.
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Teachers are like, if you saw them in the outside world, it was like odd.
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You know, it was odd to see a teacher out there because it was like the teacher.
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And they were also, they were elevated to a very high position.
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He was a great teacher and an exceptional football coach.
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I mean, whenever he'd go into a restaurant, a bar, I'd be like, coach, let me get you a beer.
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You know, it would be a conversation about that one season or that one play.
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Were you, were you a jock as a, as one of the things I say about, I hated the RNC last week.
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What I saw, it's not about Rana, but I watched the whole thing on C-SPAN.
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And I said, it's, it's the student council meets the theater club.
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I, in junior high, I ran track and played basketball, a little bit of that.
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And then when I was in high school, I was a cheerleader.
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So that, which was really my, my parents who were so sick of like, you know, at that
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point, I think just tired of having kids around.
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They said, you can pick one, you can pick one thing to get involved, one activity, but
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And we lived an hour long bus ride from school.
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Uh, we lived 10 miles outside of the nearest town and the town had 270 people.
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It was cows were my neighbors in, you know, have we lost that part of America?
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But my parents said, you can be in one activity.
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I said, I'll be in cheerleading because cheerleading is year round.
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You know, I love, what I love about the Midwest is, is this ability to compete.
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You know, there's not a lot of flash sometimes.
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It's just, it's really connecting with people for who they are.
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I'm so happy that I came from a family that didn't have a lot because we had to hone our
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I always say, I don't care what happens in the world.
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I always feel like no matter what happens, I will survive.
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And that's why as they're messing with me, as I jumped in, as just a mom who jumps into
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politics and they start messing with me, I said, they have no idea who they're messing
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You know, we didn't have food in the house when I was little.
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And then the rest of the time it was kind of like slim pickings.
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That might get you pulled out of your family's home and put into CPS care now, but thankfully
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Is that where you got the fighting spirit from?
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Because one of the things that attracts people to you is that you won't give up.
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You're not going to back down from the establishment.
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You're not going to back down from the money interest.
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You're not going to back down from what you see in this corrupt city.
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Did you get that from your, your parents are being raised?
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You come out and you think people will go, the baby is spoiled.
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I mean, I was wearing hand-me-downs from the sixties and I grew up in the eighties and
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you come out and you look immediately to your older siblings and you go, that's my competition.
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So I had competent, my oldest sister was 16 years older than me and I was constantly
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looking up to older kids, trying to keep up with them.
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You're trying to, to achieve whatever your older sibling is doing.
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Is that where you get your sense of style since you got the hand-me-downs and you were
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Now, now the carry lake is always perfectly turned out.
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But you have a sense of style though, that's different.
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It doesn't, you don't have to spend a lot of money, but you have a very distinct sense
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My mom, even though we had very little, um, she was a stylish woman.
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At one point in her life, she looked a lot like Liz Taylor.
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And I always remember her, you know, back then we'd shop at Kmart and she always pulled,
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Whether she was spending very little, usually very little on what she was-
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Um, so I think it was just having a big family.
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And growing up where we weren't babied back then.
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I mean, now you have a child and you're like, you're the most precious thing in the
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Back in the seventies and eighties when I grew up, it was kind of like, yeah, prove
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I didn't think my dad ever told me he was proud of me until I was 25.
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I remember the day I had, I was living in Phoenix.
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I was doing the news and he came over cause he had retired to Phoenix and he was helping
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with something at my house and he stopped in the front yard as he was leaving.
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And he turned around and he said, I'm so proud of you.
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And I mean, I all, I think I stood there after he drove away for half an hour.
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You know, they didn't throw those kinds of accolades around.
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In the fight we have now for you as governor, just give us a situation report.
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This thing, cause everybody talks to me every day.
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How they're going to obviously try to steal it from you.
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Cause I look at the people I live with in Arizona who I love.
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They're the reason I got into this and I go, I can't live with myself if I don't fight
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because the candidate has to be the one that steps up and fight.
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It's really hard for just a voter to stand up and launch a lawsuit.
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I think people thought it would be streaming live.
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They take everything that happened in the, in Maricopa court, Maricopa County court, and
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they take all of those documents, the declarations.
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Then they take everything the plaintiffs have put in as a reply and the defendants, and they
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If, if they feel they need oral arguments, then they'll call the attorneys in.
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They will all of a sudden, one day, boom, there'll be a ruling.
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Katie Hobbs could not get that crowd that you had the other night.
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And, and people can go in public behind the scenes.
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I said, Carrie, you do realize it's a Kansas city versus Cincinnati.
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I said, are we sure we're going to get a crowd here?
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I would say Amanda and Ben were out there and Ben calls me and says, Steve, this thing
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He goes, no, there's going to be thousands and half the crowds not going to be able to
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We said we're going to do, we decided to do a rally because you know, this was a punch in
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They showed up and voted only to have election day sabotage by these lunatics running the
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So it was the campaign ends and it was like PTSD.
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And we decided to throw a rally to just update everybody.
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Tell them where we are in our case and, and show the world that Arizona still cares about
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We didn't really, I guess when we planned it one week out, we weren't quite thinking
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I've been a little busy and we planned it one week out.
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You call me about two days out and you go, you do know that you're running this in the
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biggest NFL game thus far of the season next to the Superbowl.
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You're running your rally in the most important game.
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And I went, yeah, I know, but it's, but it's going to be probably a few people turning
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I think I know you were, we start driving into it and the whole day I'm like, oh, we're
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going to have, we're going to have a low turnout and the media is going to rake us over the
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We find out we're in the biggest room in the venue and we have four times the capacity.
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You've got a, but I think you've got a punch too.
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I can finish the story on the other side if you want me to.
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Carrie Lake is going to join us on the other side.
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You're going to meet some other people tonight.
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Everything's just beginning, but the games you want to play.
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Did you notice how I cut the conversation short