Episode 2494： The Fight For National Security
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Don't fear Vladimir Putin's demise? Do you not fear that if putin is pushed to the wall and if he feels there s an existential threat not only to his regime but also to his life, that he would use nuclear weapons?
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this is the primal scream of a dying regime pray for our enemies because we're going
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medieval on these people you're just not got a free shot all these networks lying
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about the people the people have had a belly full of it i know you don't like hearing that
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i know you try to do everything in the world to stop that but you're not going to stop it
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it's going to happen and where do people like that go to share the big line mega media i wish
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in my soul i wish that any of these people had a conscience ask yourself what is my task and what
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is my purpose if that answer is to save my country this country will be saved war here's your host
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carrie your latest article for foreign affairs is entitled don't fear putin's demise you write in
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part quote putin's effort to restore russia's lost empire is destined to fail the moment is therefore
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ripe for a transition to democracy and a devolution of power to the regional levels but for such a
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political transformation to take place putin must be defeated militarily in ukraine a decisive loss on
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battlefield would pierce putin's aura of invincibility and expose him as the architect of a failing state
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making his regime vulnerable to challenge from within you heard the report uh putin's threats of of nuclear
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weapons uh do you do you not fear that do you not fear that if putin is pushed to to the wall and if he
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feels there's an existential threat not only to his regime but to his life that he would use nuclear
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weapons by the way he hasn't said nuclear and so it's a fantasy of those who trying to pretend that
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you know the hypothetical threat of of nuclear uh attack uh could uh make us slow down supply of
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weapons to ukraine putin talked about uh different kind of wars but he never never mentioned nuclear in
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in this speech i listen it's it's in in russian original so that's why again be sure that you know
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putin keeps playing the same card he's he's bluffing it always worked and now he could sense that there
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is still a weakness on the side of his counterpart i'm not talking about ukrainians who are resilient
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who are fighting heroically but look at america and europe there's still disagreement about the
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strategic goal of this war we still have senior members of this administration talking about
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negotiated outcome they're trying to push this false narrative that every war ends up at negotiating
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table that's nothing could be further from the truce world war ii the war on the values uh never
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has not ended on negotiating table american civil war has not ended on negotiating table because when
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you fight for principles there's nothing to negotiate so uh so let me repeat the question though gary
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uh and and we agree on much uh and we have agreed on much for a very long time uh but um i think you
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actually do have to worry about a madman who is sitting on more nuclear weapons than any other country
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on the planet do you not fear the possibility that vladimir putin could resort to using nuclear weapons
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no i anything can happen you know you could have a big asteroid hitting earth yes definitely we should
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take into account i mean this is there's a little different there is chance but if we had if we had
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if we had more time you know i could tell you that the chances are very very small but the problem is
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you know if we um let this blackmail work then you know we have to probably close nata because then
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the same threat will be used to conquer lisuania latvia poland any other other country uh this is
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this is a unique moment where we can actually end this this this the story of russian empire
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and offering all russians and countries surrounding russia a chance to live in peace the simple thing
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if putin stays in power the war will never end because every empire survives only by expanding
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economically russia is in terrible shape this there's no hope of economic expansion which means war
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so beating putin on the battlefield and creating conditions for his removal in russia because many
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russians you know as as has happened before in our history will never forget uh uh the the military
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defeat the geopolitical catastrophe that's the that's that creates ripe conditions for for regime change
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inside our country so that's that's that's the best hope for everybody not only ukrainians
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the best hope for everybody it's saturday 4 february in the year of our lord 2023
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the and now it's dangerous talk they just sat there on on morning mika the other day and and and
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equated uh this border war and the slavic war and disagreement between ukraine and russia that's
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been going on for thousands of years and will go on thousands of years in the future they equated that
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to world war ii in the american civil war with unconditional where we had we were fighting for something quite
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frankly in world war ii um it was because we were attacked let's let's understand this we were
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attacked by the japanese of pearl harbor there was a lot of things that went on before that we were
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attacked by the japanese in a surprise attack and adolf hitler declared war on us declared war on us
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this msnbc is getting to be dangerous that this loose talk of defeating putin on the battlefield he must
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be defeated he must be defeated on the battlefield we must have unconditional surrender of the russian
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people something that uh napoleon adolf hitler and what charles the 12th uh the the swede
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none of whom uh were able to do that at empires at the top of their game i want to bring in jack
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posovic at the same time we're going to have matt rosendale trying to get matt rosendale on the show
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to join us we're going to get to the the chinese uh spy balloon in a minute but jack uh you know
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the region number one you're pretty unique in that you speak perfect mandarin you're a naval
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intelligence officer you've been stationed in uh in beijing you've been stationed in mainland china
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uh you're one of the smartest guys on strategy i know in military intelligence and you also given
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your polish heritage and background and roots and your wife's from belarus you know this region
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the bloodlands as well as anybody i just want your assessment of the loose talk you saw there
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on on morning joe and that's getting to be the mantra now over at uh the mainstream media that
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that putin must be he it's the vital national security interest of the united states of america
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that's being invaded on its southern border and has an existential threat in the south china scene in
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taiwan that it is in the vital national security interest of the united states of america and the
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american citizens to defeat putin in the russian army on the battlefield in ukraine jack posobik your
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assessment of that sir yeah steve i i think i think garry kasparov should go back to the chess board i
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mean he's he's he's known for being great at at playing uh games that i play with my my children
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and and that's great good for him i i appreciate it but this idea that he should no nonchalantly talk
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about regime change in russia uh it's it's dangerous this is dangerous loose glib talk it's
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very glib and i mean just go down the list even you've talked about carullus rex just there we've
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talked about others who have attempted this by the way we have gone through one regime change in russia
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in recent history or at least recent modern history in 1917 when we said well if we can just get rid of
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that czar then russia is going to be completely fine look what happened look how that turned out for
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the world look how that turned out for the region when you unleashed the bolsheviks when the german
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kaiser sent lenin back on his train car back to berlin and we unleashed that insanity on the entire
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world and had to deal with it for the next 70 80 years of the soviet menace now they're talking about
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nonchalantly getting rid of putin who knows who's going to come to power if we get rid of putin or
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or and they know by the way that we're the ones behind it meanwhile you hear the same glib talk
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like peter zehan when he was on uh joe rogan recently saying well we need to push him in the
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corner we need to push him in the corner we need to push him in the corner to feed him on the
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battlefield then they admit and even and i gotta give scarborough credit here for at least asking
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the question he said well if you push him in the corner wouldn't you use nuclear weapons because
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this is the danger of using world war ii formulations on nuclear powered states in 1945 imperial japan
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didn't have the bomb that's why uh truman and the united states were able to use atomic weapons and
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pound them with impunity because they can't respond the same way that ukraine doesn't have nuclear
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weapons today but guess what russia does and as a matter of fact they have more nuclear weapons and
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more missiles than we do they have 6 000 nuclear tipped missiles and guess what are you going to take
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out all of them how much is it worth to you gary what city is it worth to you are you worth giving up
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our nuclear arsenal in montana where that balloon's floating over do you is it worth giving up seattle
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washington new york city you know new york would be one of the first targets washington would be next
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where my children live so no gary i don't think it's worth it to me to risk losing an american city
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just because you want to be able to get points on msnbc absolutely not
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but i want to i want to stick on this i got to go back when you talk about and use the example of the
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american civil war and world war ii about unconditional surrender the probability to defeat
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putin's army with to defeat him on the battlefield with unconditional surrender american people
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understand that that's the types of talk you're hearing in washington dc with all this money going
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over there what's the from your intelligence put your intelligence hat on for a second
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and your ability to assess order of battle and and resources given the ukrainian army as it stands
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today sir even with some support logistic support and new weapons from the american from the
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americans go watch uh and and and what what's the probability we could defeat putin on the
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battlefield in ukraine unconditionally destroy his army unconditionally destroy the russian people
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unconditionally on the battlefield in ukraine sir by the way i'd love to ask i'd love to ask gary
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what's all this we talk it's all this we talk gary you and i are sitting in studios we're not out
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there on the battlefield we're not out there in the trenches it's not our families in bakhmut and
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abdrika and soldar that are being crushed right now in the donbass region it's not us we're sitting in
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palatial studios all over the world these are the families that are actually being crushed not you
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not your family not our children and i hope to god that my children aren't involved in this
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go watch zelinski's interview with my former colleague trey yings that he did this week in kiev
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where zelinski himself admits it he says look you've sent us over a dozen tanks a couple dozen
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tanks thanks we appreciate it but russia has 1200 tanks russia has thousands of tanks and fighters
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that they are able to send into this fight so you're going to send over a couple of tanks when
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we don't even have the training we don't have the maintenance we don't have the logistics the
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supply chains by the way you've got to get them all the way from the border in lviv all the way to
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the front which is in donbass that's the other side of ukraine and i don't know if you're if
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you're aware but ukraine's kind of a big country that oh by the way is under is in the midst of
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warfare right now so you've got to make sure that russia doesn't decide to blow those things out of
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the sky with a caliber cruise missile or blow them out of the ground i should say as they're making
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their way across to the battlefront this idea that a couple of tanks are going to be enough to
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take the russians all the way to unconditional surrender it's ridiculous first of all the russians
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don't do unconditional surrender this is the these are the people these are the people who burned
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down their own capital just so that napoleon wouldn't have a place to be able to spend the
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winter then they took the the whole army they went into the forest they waited him out then when
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napoleon finally quit they came back in they they don't do unconditional surrender gary i don't know if
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you've been paying attention to i don't know a little thing called all of russian history they just
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don't do it and so when you're dealing with them you have to understand from a higher strategic
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standpoint they're always and macron even made this point that at the end of the day whatever this
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stands out they're going to be there at the other end of europe you're going to have to deal with them
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so these silly fanciful uh cartoony kind of fairy tales that gary kasparov and msnbc want to spread
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are ridiculous they're not tied in any way they're completely divorced from reality and the reality is that
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you will have a regime in the kremlin one way or the other and it's not going to necessarily be this
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fancy one that's perfect one that you wish it was it's going to be a russian one so you have to start
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from there and then decide where do you go with this at the end of the day and i've said this before
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that that region that volgograd gap it is not in america's existential strategic interests to
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maintain control of that for the globalist american empire but they understand the same way that the
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kaiser understood it the same way that hitler understood it at stalingrad that if you take
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the volgograd gap if you take that area which is between the black sea and the caspian which connects
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the two rivers the two seas and then the volga which goes all the way up to moscow that is the key
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to the russian heartland any russian leader i don't care who it is will fight to the death to defend that
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land um what's a before you go to break and you're going to stick with us for a while but before we go
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to the break the ability to take back the the the donbass which has been this territory in dispute
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that russia now controls and is controlled for a while but now controls militarily in the crimea
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what's the probability that could be taken back uh zero
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zero okay zero no doubt in your mind i mean you you would have to go to nuclear war to even to even
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broach the concept uh russia will never the savannah hole is there this is their russian this is the
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black sea fleet the home port of the black sea fleet they will never give up crimea you saw what they
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did to maintain stalingrad do we really want to open that up again really okay short commercial break
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okay welcome back um cpac.org slash war room you get 47 off of the general mission ticket we need
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have breakout rooms uh and all sorts of things so we can get to know each other and give us feedback
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on the show jack pasobiec i want this loose talk on msmec about uh you must defeat uh russia on the
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battlefield we it's an imperative number one imperative in from america right now is to defeat
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i mean i'm almost it's almost so insane i feel almost ridiculous repeating it that in the year
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2023 the number one priority of the united states of america is to defeat the russian army unconditionally
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in the ukraine on the battlefield that is insane talk and it's dangerous talk and msnbc ought to be
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ashamed of themselves for even having that on there it's ridiculous talk to me uh posobiec you're
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polish uh descent you you know world war ii as well as anybody to give the audience give it your
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assessment of leningrad and world war ii and stalingrad i'm gonna pick two random names leningrad
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and stalingrad what what happened to those two cities in world war ii so what's what's stalingrad and
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we just went through the 88th anniversary of the surrender of the german six army field marshal paulus
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uh frederick paulus being the first and believe highest ranking german pow of the war
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or at least in at that up to that point in world war ii this was the first time a german field
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army had surrendered anywhere um they had been completely encircled cut off by the and it was
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marshal zhukov on the russian side the soviet side uh fighting in the defense um khrushchev of course
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traveled down multiple times during stalingrad the battle stalingrad in order to to push that on
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but this was the this were these were battles of starvation in in both cases now in so stalingrad
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this becomes the most bloody battle of world war ii the most bloody battle in world history
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they fought tooth and nail they fought to the last man to completely envelop the german army the nazi
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arm the wehrmacht there the luftwaffen had sent they didn't have air superiority so the nazis strafed
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solingrad again and again and again and so the soviets simply used the rubble used the buildings
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department buildings uh the the pavlov's house uh various areas just just for sniper duels uh to go
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in and use them as as base camps and they fought through the winter through starvation uh the same way
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it's winter right now the same way the russians fought during the winters in the napoleon invasion
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to pull it during the swedish wars um during various wars throughout their their history um that they
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fought in terms of this now when you look at lenin and they want obviously they want in stalingrad this
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is this was the turning point in the eastern front really this was the point where the german advance
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was be it was turned back because they had been stretched so far and so thin because hitler was
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determined to cut russia off and i just explained it before the break to cut russia off from the
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caucasus to cut them off from the black sea to cut them off from the caspian they wouldn't be able
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to resupply he knew that if he cut russia off from essentially all of their sea access which it's very
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easy to bottle russia up from the sea because russia's this is this is key to understand for russian
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military strategy that if you are run if you are russia then you do not have good sea access you don't
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have the murmansk which is your most north your northernmost port is iced over for something like
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eight months of the year uh st petersburg at the time leningrad it's very easily closed off in the
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baltic um through the the the the bay of finland then of course in the black sea you're closed off by
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istanbul the the bosphorus strait so the russian navy has always been weak so you must maintain your sea
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access it's also easy if you're fighting russia to try to to to want to cut that off because you know
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they won't have the ability to project power what does russia have to respond with people soldiers
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this is where you get uh the order i forget the order number but it's it's stalin's famous order
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of not one step back that if you turn back you would be shot by your superior officers and they simply send
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human wave after wave in stalingrad up in leningrad by the way where actually more people were killed
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so two million total died in in stalingrad leningrad you have something like five million casualties
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and leningrad that's exactly what i'm talking about they laid siege to that entire city something
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where so the people died families died children were killed and all the way to the point where if
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you want to understand where the current russian leadership is coming from vladimir putin is the
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not the oldest child of his family but he's the oldest one that survived because his own older brother
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starved to death in the siege of leningrad so when you think about the germans when you think
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about the current russian leadership their view of germany their view of the west their view of berlin
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he's remembering these are the people who killed my brother
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the siege of leningrad took 900 days there's a book out by harrison salisbury who won the pulitzer prize
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for the new york times as a war correspondent wrote the book the 900 days the siege of leningrad
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the they survived you know how they survived it was cannibalism yeah it was horrible
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my point is the experiences in world war ii of the russian people are are not the experiences of the
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american people in world war ii when we have loose talk on msn we have nothing to even compare
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the victory gardens because when you say that the german army and stuff off no yes no clue no and by
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the way the valor of the the the island hopping marines and the navy and of course uh everything
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in in in the greatest generation the valor is unquestioned but the war in the east you know
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operation barbarossa are the german army that yeah let me put it this way and i know this from you know
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from talking to tanya about it and talking to her family that for us world war ii was a war that we
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went over to fight we went over to fight in europe for or and and in the pacific theater in if you
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live in eastern europe this war was fought in your backyard it was fought in your front yard it was
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fought at your church it was fought at your school it was for your families it was everything it was your
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entire world for five six years of your life we we are getting into areas of darkness and uh hungry
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ghost that america that general marshall and general eisenhower and omar bradley and general patten and
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field marshall montgomery the british in incomprehensive they would sit there and go this
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talk they would say if they had heard what msnbc played on friday morning about we have to fight
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the russian army we have to have unconditional surrender on the battlefield that that is a
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priority that is the priority of american national security policy the leaders of uh the victors
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in the west would have said are you insane at in just the bloodlands remember from 1930 1945
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14 or 15 million people were killed in political violence not on the battlefield political violence
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you had five million starved ukraine is kansas it's the kansas of europe or the eurasian five million
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people they starved five million ukrainians they starved them to death in the middle of kansas
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because they took the food well steve this is also one of the reasons five or six million yeah go ahead
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by the way this is also one of the reasons that that russia looks at ukraine and and belarus as
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their strategic buffer because there is no natural barrier between germany and russia and so and i and
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i see this as as a descendant of poland that uh one of the things they they're looking at is they have
00:24:59.280
no mountains they have the you know they have caucuses that are to their south which is sort of their
00:25:03.280
their border with middle east and then the urals which are completely enveloped in within central
00:25:07.680
russia sort of the split between the the european side of russia and the asian side siberia side
00:25:12.400
but there's it's all flat it's all flat farmland with no serious geographic features and this is why
00:25:20.080
the land itself becomes the feature that they look at as a buffer between what they consider their
00:25:26.560
strategic uh their strategic adversary potentially being germany because germany has always been their
00:25:32.560
strategic adversary you watch any soviet movie it's all it's always about germany germany germany
00:25:37.440
this has been their strategic focus because for the past hundred years they've had to deal with
00:25:41.120
invasions from germany invasions from france prior to that invasions from sweden so they're always
00:25:46.720
worried about this they're always worried about a western attack and they know that western attacks
00:25:51.760
are going to come through this flat land this flat area they've been three pretty big uh pretty big
00:25:58.000
attacks the swedes under under what charles the twelfth you've got napoleon and the french you got
00:26:02.720
hitler and the germans three pretty big attacks we're not we're not we're not defending we're not
00:26:07.920
defending putin whatsoever he's a criminal element just like the ccp but the prioritization we're
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getting we're gonna have matt rosendale join us in a second the great congressman from from montana
00:26:18.320
is that you know and i'm so proud we started the show yesterday friday show by talking about this
00:26:24.080
madness at msnbc and about uh and about the the spy balloon over montana in the in the financial
00:26:30.720
times of london and yesterday blinken to meet xi during landmark china visit in sign of thawing
00:26:36.160
relations well before the show was over blinken as we had argued canceled that there's no thawing
00:26:42.640
relations the chinese communist party is that an economic but did he completely cancel it or did he
00:26:48.560
postpone it okay postpone it it's canceled but it's postponed right you don't you don't cancel a
00:26:56.000
full-on audience with the emperor when you're going there to kowtow okay right the as we've seen now
00:27:03.760
it's been exposed in the last seven to 72 hours just like every town's a border town and every
00:27:08.160
town's a border state because the invasion of the southern border of the united states
00:27:11.920
every citizen in this country is in this when you talk about unconditional surrender the russian army
00:27:17.200
and the potential use of tactical nuclear weapons to take crimea or hold crimea tactical nuclear
00:27:23.440
weapons 12 000 miles away 10 000 miles away on the eastern border of ukraine don't think that this
00:27:29.600
doesn't involve you as we now know montana and the dakotas are a big launching pad for icbms that
00:27:38.560
has kind of come to the public's mind you're not safe in montana you're not safe in the dakotas you're
00:27:42.480
not safe anywhere as this would spin out of control by these feckless weak leaders of the united states
00:27:49.840
that are goading this on everybody's in play and what we need to do is focus on the existential threat
00:27:56.320
to the united states of america that is the criminal element in beijing the chinese communist party as we
00:28:01.520
have said from day one it's the reason i'm the first civilian in the history of this nation to be fully
00:28:06.400
sanctioned by the chinese communist party in the state of china three minutes into the biden regime
00:28:13.120
of which they never said a peep congressman matt rosendale jack bosovic next in the world
00:28:26.480
the balloon doesn't pose to have any to pose any risks to citizens how is it that the u.s can assess
00:28:32.000
that given that the balloon is at such an altitude you know without actually getting eyes on it up
00:28:36.160
close and assessing the equipment that's on board um and secondly um are there any alternatives being
00:28:41.680
considered to shooting it down is there any option to take this balloon out of the sky intact to maybe
00:28:46.640
get a better look at that equipment yeah so so again uh this is a surveillance balloon uh hover you know
00:28:54.320
operating at about 60 000 feet um clearly you know we did a very close assessment in terms of uh what
00:29:02.560
it's doing uh and as i mentioned uh military commanders have assessed that there is no physical
00:29:10.080
or military threat to people on the ground um and so uh in that regard we'll continue to monitor uh in
00:29:17.600
terms of way ahead we will continue to review options but i'm not going to have anything further to
00:29:22.080
provide on that so thank you is the option of shooting down the balloon particularly as it's
00:29:28.160
going over more populated areas off the table is that still amongst the options that that the
00:29:33.760
u.s military is considering and if so under what conditions would it do so yeah thanks nancy so so
00:29:38.320
at this stage uh what i can tell you is again um we're reviewing options i'm not i'm not going to go
00:29:44.320
into more specifics than that uh and when and if there's any updates to provide we'll let you know
00:29:48.640
it's been ruled out again we're monitoring the middle okay now we know it's going over the middle
00:29:55.120
of the country i'll bring congressman matt rosendale congressman just you're one of the great fighters
00:30:02.240
up in montana right the great patriots up there if it wasn't for you we wouldn't have this aggressive
00:30:08.080
nature of the of the uh republican house because you were one of the magnificent the magnificent six as
00:30:14.880
we call it the hardcores you're too kind what the heck is going on there and and if what what i don't
00:30:21.360
understand congressman rosendale why is the biden administration kowtowing to the chinese communist
00:30:26.240
party about saying oh things are thawing we're gonna go there and meet and they're leaving montana
00:30:30.560
and now the rest of the nation exposed sir your assessment i am very very concerned about this whole
00:30:37.360
situation as you can imagine steve uh we heard about it early on uh i've got more questions than
00:30:43.200
i have answers how how long has the federal government known about this balloon traveling over
00:30:50.240
united states airspace i mean it clearly had to travel over several other states before it
00:30:55.440
got to montana they say that they were protecting uh our uh sensitive equipment there in montana we've got
00:31:04.320
140 icbms we have the air force base that's responsible for them how are they protecting them
00:31:11.280
from uh having eyes on it from this balloon uh the rider general rider did not provide us with much
00:31:19.200
information i'm trying to understand why they haven't brought the balloon down whether they shoot
00:31:23.120
it out of the sky or they use some other method with which to bring it down and then acquire the equipment
00:31:29.360
that it's uh carrying and see what information they have collected and have it in hand and at that
00:31:37.360
point send blinken over to the ccp and say we got this we know what's going on and now have a serious
00:31:46.400
discussion about reining in the chinese communist party and the uh tactics and the measures that they're
00:31:53.040
taking to try and attack our country whether it's through cyber security whether it's through all these
00:31:58.800
surveillance methods or whether it's just through sending fentanyl through mexico to kill our uh
00:32:05.040
citizens do the what are the folks in in montana because you stay very close to your constituents and
00:32:12.560
you're you've got the eastern kind of part of the state um not the more the rocky mountain part of the
00:32:18.160
state but the state and i hope understands that they're at we just had this bizarre discussion about
00:32:24.480
tactical nuclear weapons in ukraine as used on the battlefield to defeat the russian army
00:32:30.080
that the folks in in in montana understand they are absolutely the tip of the spear when you talk
00:32:34.720
when you talk geostrategy because montana and the dakotas have a big portion of the intercontinental
00:32:41.840
ballistic missiles right there that the folks there understand that and where are their heads right
00:32:45.600
now about this entire situation sure sure they do understand that uh the the entire missile uh field
00:32:52.560
is located within my district because it's to the uh east of all of the mountains the the continental
00:32:59.040
divide so mountains from air force base and the entire missile field is located in my district and
00:33:03.760
these people have grown up uh in this missile field they watch those silos constructed they've
00:33:09.680
watched the growth of the air force base and the different improvements that have taken place around
00:33:14.080
it golly day i i had sarah carter out uh probably four months ago uh talking about the purchase of
00:33:21.280
lands by the chinese communist party in montana and the huawei installation of uh telecommunications
00:33:28.640
devices on cell towers the 5g network and why in the world that that would be allowed to take place in
00:33:34.640
our country and so the citizens of montana are very aware of both the uh threat that the uh silos and the
00:33:46.240
missiles uh pose to other nations to keep them uh from acting out badly but they also understand the
00:33:54.960
threat that it poses to them as uh living in the area where this defense system is is located that
00:34:02.640
certainly uh the bad actors of the world be it russia china uh north korea would certainly like to
00:34:09.120
eliminate that defense system do you believe um given that the missile field is in your district
00:34:16.960
do you believe that either the biden regime or the pentagon have come forward and been straightforward
00:34:22.480
with you i mean how have you found out information about this when you started this
00:34:25.440
interview by saying hey i got more questions than i than we have uh answers but have they been
00:34:31.680
forthcoming to you uh has the pentagon been forthcoming to you sir they have not steve and and we're right
00:34:39.280
now trying to get a uh briefing uh amongst the whole delegation i understand that one at a time it's very
00:34:47.040
difficult to try and set up these one-on-one appointments but we must have a briefing uh from
00:34:53.440
the pentagon to tell us what is going on so that the two senators and and both of us representatives
00:34:58.640
can provide the answers to our constituents i've reached out to the uh the adjutant general from
00:35:05.600
the uh national guard located in montana so i could get information from him i've reached out to the
00:35:12.240
ceo at mount for air force base and they're not able to give a lot of information and so i again i
00:35:19.280
want to know how long has this been in uh united states airspace well they can't even tell us steve
00:35:25.600
where the balloon is located right now is it still over montana i mean this thing is hovering somewhere
00:35:32.640
in that sixty thousand to eighty thousand foot altitude so clearly if there's a slightest bit of
00:35:39.280
overcast you're not going to be able to see it there's certain times as i see on the monitor now that
00:35:45.360
folks are able to get a a view or a glint of something metallic that you know it shines off of
00:35:52.160
uh to show that it's in the general area but now the information that we have is that it's uh over
00:35:58.080
the center of the continental united states that's a pretty large area to to be able to tell us where
00:36:05.360
this thing is located and again if it doesn't pose a a threat a physical threat to the citizens of the
00:36:12.400
united states then let's bring it down and and find out uh what it's carrying and what information is
00:36:19.840
collecting it clearly now that this has been disclosed it clearly spent i don't know three
00:36:26.160
four five days hovering over montana in the airbase right i mean they can't hide that the the regime the
00:36:33.520
biden regime and the pentagon has kind of hidden that but it was somehow hovering around uh the the
00:36:41.440
airbase that's just not a that's not a coincidence is it uh is it uh congressman and that were they
00:36:46.720
forthcoming with you even on that information no they were not it's not a coincidence it's not
00:36:53.360
uh an anomaly it was there for a specific reason and so is it is it a decoy steve do i mean i would
00:37:01.040
certainly think i'm not a techno guy but i would certainly think that there are satellites that are
00:37:07.760
circling around the earth right now that are able to use equipment to identify most of the information
00:37:14.720
that this uh balloon could also pick up we have as part of the nuclear non-proliferation act uh the
00:37:23.600
russians have have gone out to malmstrom air force base they've been to the base they've been out to
00:37:28.320
the missile silos they have shared this information if the russians have it then you can rest assured
00:37:33.200
that the chinese have that same information so what what exactly was going on this is not just a
00:37:39.520
weather balloon that has gotten off course and was roaming freely across the country if you as you
00:37:46.800
just stated it was hovering around the northern tier where these missile silos are located and and what
00:37:54.880
was it doing was it collecting data was it conducting a test let's bring it down let's gather the information
00:38:01.840
and then we want to go in and use it as a tool to rein this um this bad activity in that the chinese
00:38:10.080
communist party continues to spread out what what's the what's the folks in in uh in your district there
00:38:19.600
what what is what would be their stand on this right now if you actually go back and and and and talk to
00:38:24.800
folks oh i know they they'd say use the three s's that's shoot shovel and shut up that's that's what
00:38:33.840
my people would say steve and then bury the shovel
00:38:39.840
bury the shovel um we don't even get it for a limited time i'd like to hold you through this
00:38:44.800
next break but before doing that i got jack basovic here i want to i want to broaden out the picture from
00:38:49.680
just the from just the balloon to the broader context the um you know the the biden regime
00:38:55.040
in ukraine and we've had you on a couple weeks ago to talk about this now it's not just battle tanks
00:38:59.920
in a new strategy of you know liberating crimea they want f-16 planes all of a sudden in the last
00:39:06.640
48 hours you know they oh excuse me there's 500 000 russian troops on our border amassing a border
00:39:12.320
there's gonna be a winter offensive we need unlimited amount of american arms and we had gates on the
00:39:18.640
friday show is it time to force biden and i know you're one of the patriots that that say we got
00:39:26.080
to think this thing there's a time to force biden to come to congress and actually make a presentation
00:39:30.720
on a war powers resolution that we're so far into this thing that somehow we got to vote congress
00:39:36.720
has got to vote or whether we support this or not sir i would think so uh steve as you well know when
00:39:42.880
this conflict first broke out in february uh 23rd of last year uh they immediately uh the the warhawks
00:39:52.080
in congress uh brought a resolution forward to grant the president unlimited financial and military
00:39:59.440
support to execute this this operation now it was just a resolution it wasn't a a piece of law but i
00:40:07.040
voted against that thomas massey voted against that paul gosar voted against that i would not grant that
00:40:12.640
type of unlimited authority to any president and it is uh i think it is uh dangerous to do so and yet
00:40:20.080
now we have sent in uh the neighborhood of 100 billion dollars worth of support to ukraine and we had an
00:40:29.440
opportunity probably somewhere in the neighborhood of 30 45 days ago when the weapon systems on both
00:40:35.680
sides were depleted to the point that the uh military conflict had quieted down why is it that we
00:40:43.440
weren't forcing people to come to the table and have a conversation about establishing a peace accord
00:40:49.600
and and and being done with this instead of trying to look for areas where we could find more weapons
00:40:55.680
and fuel a fuel that is destroying that uh land and and killing tens of thousands of people
00:41:05.280
uh congressman uh can you hang on for a second we'll take a short break and we'll hold you we got
00:41:09.520
the the last block in in this hour i've got jack basova okay we're gonna take a short commercial
00:41:14.000
break we've got uh congressman matt rosendale of course there's been a huge he's from montana a huge
00:41:20.560
issue with montana in this situation with the chinese uh spy uh balloon and now they're saying
00:41:26.480
hey it could be anywhere in the united states we've got uh we got posobic here we're talking about the
00:41:31.120
ukraine we're talking about the chinese communist party we're hurtling towards we're hurtling towards
00:41:37.200
a kinetic conflict we are being sucked in to this fight in ukraine we started with his insane talk
00:41:44.240
of uh m of msnbc and morning joe morning mika and joe scarborough talking with experts and russian
00:41:50.880
experts kasparov about uh defeating the russian army an unconditional surrender of the russian army
00:41:57.920
defeat of the russian army on battlefields in ukraine the talk of the uniparty the talk of the uh world
00:42:05.280
economic forum crowd in davos is out of control we're gonna have matt rosendale from montana jack
00:42:11.920
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okay we have jack posovic from human events daily and of course uh congressman matt rosendale jack do you
00:43:01.120
have a question for the congressman congressman i'd love to hear though is so we're hearing from the
00:43:06.080
pentagon of course we know about the minuteman missile silos that this this uh this spy platform
00:43:11.840
is floating over possibly collecting on but i'd love to ask you know what is your office hearing from
00:43:16.800
the people of the district itself i mean you've got constituents out there you've got ranchers you've
00:43:21.360
got people living you've got families what are they telling you when they see up in their sky a chinese
00:43:27.920
spy platform where they don't know what's on that thing they don't know if there's weapons or armaments or
00:43:31.840
what on that thing uh what kind of signal are you hearing back from the people that live in that
00:43:36.800
district sir thank you jack uh honestly they've got a bunch of questions just like me there's
00:43:42.400
they're asking why in the world is it that this balloon first of all wasn't uh identified long before
00:43:49.520
it was able to get to the montana border that that's the first question the second question they
00:43:53.600
ask is if they have all of these satellites that are able to pick up this information and scan our
00:43:59.200
countryside why is it that they're still pushing this balloon over i mean is there something that
00:44:05.360
is contained within the uh the flotation device itself okay if it's the size of three school buses
00:44:12.080
and it has a a gas uh base there to keep it floating is there something else that's mixed in with that
00:44:18.960
are they just running this as a test so that they can see how we react uh to uh discovering that the
00:44:25.760
balloon is floating over our state uh are they actually using this old device uh and technology
00:44:33.520
to gather information uh what is giving it the ability to uh control and hover just in that area
00:44:42.160
where are they controlling that from is that a land-based control unit that is somewhere nearby
00:44:48.320
or is that being conducted from china it uh the china mainland itself so they have a lot of
00:44:55.280
questions what they don't like is that uh the united states government is aware of it and they're
00:45:01.600
giving very little information and fortunately they do trust me to go out and bang on doors and
00:45:09.520
desktops to get that information and try and get the truth from our government to tell the people what
00:45:15.280
is going on well i i appreciate your candor jack's point this is it's it's it's a simple question of the
00:45:21.680
social contract that the government exists if anything that for collective defense defense
00:45:26.560
of families defense of your neighborhood defense of homeland and it feels like our government has
00:45:30.800
just completely dropped the ball in terms of this they have dropped the ball and when you listen to
00:45:35.440
the press conference from general rider and and the uh way with which he skirted around providing any
00:45:42.960
accurate detailed information about what is going on it's i find it unacceptable and so do the citizens
00:45:49.280
across montana i want to go to a point though that this is not the first time tell people because i
00:45:55.360
don't think our nationwide audience knows as well as the folks in montana talk about huawei talk about
00:46:00.000
the farmland up there around around the miss around the basic icbm fields and your fight on that
00:46:05.760
and how that was not easy talk to us about that for a second we got a couple minutes okay so uh the the
00:46:11.280
land as i started hearing about these purchases of land around uh secure sensitive operations across the
00:46:17.120
country i started doing some research and i i was comforted to find out that they really the chinese
00:46:23.040
communist party had not been buying that much land around montana however when they did install the 5g
00:46:29.920
network across the nation with huawei there's a lot of cell towers as you can imagine across the state
00:46:36.320
of montana and the most sensitive ones are the ones that are distributing information and collecting
00:46:42.000
signals right there in the north central part of the state which is near malmstrom air force base which
00:46:48.160
is responsible for 140 150 icbms and while again the information about the location of the missiles
00:46:57.360
themselves and information about the geographic location of the air force base is fairly public what is not
00:47:05.920
public is when the missileers uh the the uh soldiers themselves are moving around where their activities
00:47:14.800
are what missiles are they bringing in for maintenance and and when they're doing that and that a lot of
00:47:20.880
that information can be picked up off of those cell towers as different people are communicating and
00:47:26.640
so i did have sarah carter come up doing some investigative journalism to say look as we begin this rip
00:47:32.800
and replace program to yank out all the y way technology the the cell towers around mounts from
00:47:39.920
air force base should be the first ones on the list to make sure that these foreign entities aren't
00:47:46.320
tracking what is going on with our military uh constant words now i know you got a bounce we got about a
00:47:54.560
minute or so just next week it's going to be state of the union from biden and then the investigations
00:47:59.120
really kick off what's your assessment what assessment can you give the war room audience
00:48:03.040
about what they should look forward to in the next couple of weeks about investigating the biden regime
00:48:07.760
everybody has been developing their plans for government oversight for the last 12 months steve and and
00:48:13.520
your posse knows that we have some very very competent and capable individuals that are going to be
00:48:19.680
walking through all of this administration and their activities uh from before they were sworn into
00:48:27.360
office and how they have compromised themselves and our country with the different actions that
00:48:33.600
they have taken so you're going to see in every single committee a lot of oversight that is going to
00:48:39.600
take place and find out and determine why in the world we have been so compromised now then it's going
00:48:46.400
to be up to the department of justice to start charging and prosecuting individuals and if they don't
00:48:52.720
i think that you're going to hear a hue and cry not only from congress but from people across the
00:48:57.680
nation to say we are not going to tolerate uh this uh any longer congressman you've become a real hero
00:49:06.480
to the american people and to the war room audience how do people track you on social media where they go to
00:49:10.960
get to your congressional site at rep rosendale at rep rosendale you can uh get all my uh social media
00:49:18.880
whether it's on twitter facebook getter and anywhere that you get your information we are there
00:49:24.720
at rep rosendale congressman thank you and the good folks in uh montana got to have to know that
00:49:31.920
the war room always has their back the great patriots up there now that they're in the front line
00:49:36.320
of uh of this quite frankly global war thank you very much it is honored to have you on everybody
00:49:40.800
have a great weekend thank you brother uh jack posobik uh has got a lot more to say and we're
00:49:47.920
going to ask him the questions we're going to get all that information out a short commercial
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how we're going to do that is with salty go there do it today check it out