Bannon's War Room - Episode 2495： Where Are They Hiding The Data

00:00:00.000 this is the primal scream of a dying regime pray for our enemies because we're going

00:00:10.320 medieval on these people you're just not got a free shot all these networks lying

00:00:15.360 about the people the people have had a belly full of it i know you don't like hearing that

00:00:20.160 i know you try to do everything in the world to stop that but you're not going to stop it

00:00:23.020 it's going to happen and where do people like that go to share the big line mega media i wish

00:00:29.740 in my soul i wish that any of these people had a conscience ask yourself what is my task and what

00:00:37.000 is my purpose if that answer is to save my country this country will be saved war room here's your

00:00:46.100 host stephen k man okay welcome back uh saturday 4 february year of our lord 2023 uh poso had to

00:00:55.800 bounce uh but we had uh you know we had it the straight tough way from congressman matt rosendale

00:01:04.000 out in montana and also jack poso is one of the smartest guys i know in this space one of the

00:01:10.960 other smartest guys is uh dr peter navarro and uh dr navarro joins us now by phone uh peter people know

00:01:18.440 you as the the trump manufacturing guy and you know you negotiated the chinese deals and in in

00:01:23.940 you're an expert a phd from harvard in economics but i know you when i first you know knew about

00:01:31.740 you and your writings and your filmmaking was about you understand the chinese communist party and

00:01:38.060 president trump understood this you know the chinese communist party i think better than the at least

00:01:44.360 the people you and i met in our intelligence community right you you've done books there for

00:01:49.760 years yeah i read that i read that you know peter not briefs i i did that this is actually intelligence

00:01:56.340 briefs i whoa um god he never had it right uh but anyway i digress go ahead no no no peter and i

00:02:05.700 would sit there you get these briefs from these guys and you know we look at each other he's got a

00:02:09.800 side side eye and then peter would always have his the greatest put down navarro came out goes

00:02:15.520 now exactly why is this classified and and they would go absolutely nuts but it wasn't just class

00:02:20.880 it wasn't the classification it was just it it was it was just the understanding walk me through

00:02:26.780 and i want the audience to appreciate the fact and because we're talking now you know blinking and

00:02:32.200 you uh on um yesterday's show we started the show by talking about the financial times of london had a

00:02:39.040 uh a headline in the morning when we started the show blinking to meet xi during landmark china visit

00:02:44.540 in sign of thawing relationships and all it talked about is how biden's done so much to bring them

00:02:50.520 together after trump and navarro and bannon and all these you know people didn't know what they were

00:02:54.700 doing uh you know were hammering the ccp about a decoupling um and then of course before the show

00:03:00.560 was over it was canceled because of the spy balloon but it's much deeper than that talk to us about

00:03:05.340 you you've been basically writing about this i think 2004 2005 2006 your first book and then your

00:03:12.900 second you've talked about the war of the chinese communist party upon the west in a very sophisticated

00:03:18.860 way of like unrestricted warfare walk it walk us through your theory of the case and where do you

00:03:24.380 think we stand today dr peter navarro well i just as a preface it does frustrate me that back in 2006

00:03:32.460 i wrote the coming china wars 2006 death by china in 2011 crouching tiger will there be war with china

00:03:41.060 in 2015 uh that trilogy uh basically um is as right today as it was back then and it just frustrates me

00:03:52.000 to hear these clowns in washington saying the same stuff i was saying back in 2006 never having done

00:03:59.460 anything about it what i'd like to do for your audience is put some perspective on this particular

00:04:04.800 incident and take it back to april 2001 when this communist china jet jock wei wang was uh doing

00:04:14.700 some very aggressive maneuvers on a navy p3 reconnaissance plane in international waters in the south china

00:04:23.420 wang managed to see wang managed to clip the wing of the p3 plane and and essentially kill himself

00:04:30.140 because he plunged to the ground but the p3 had to limp its way uh 70 miles to heinan island which is part

00:04:38.760 of communist china um and what ensued then was what mike pillsbury would call the the four humiliations where

00:04:47.580 they perp walked the the crew uh they held them hostage um they stripped that plane of every piece

00:04:59.220 of classified information which we now according to uh reports years later was considerable and the

00:05:06.820 biggest humiliation was they gave us the plane back but only after lockheed martin uh broke it down

00:05:13.080 into pieces and they shipped it back in crates okay now i mentioned this because can you imagine

00:05:20.100 if a u.s balloon was discovered flying over chungdu right what what what would the chinese have done

00:05:28.060 if we what the biden administration has done is said yeah uh no big deal blinking you come home for a

00:05:35.720 little bit we'll send you back when then when the dust clears the pentagon says don't shoot it down you

00:05:40.940 might hurt somebody i'll tell you what if this was a trump administration one of two things would

00:05:46.420 have happened for certain shoot it down or better yet force that thing down do ground and then examine

00:05:56.300 what exactly was in it because the chinese are trying to make us all believe in their usual comments

00:06:00.980 shine a big lie stuff that somehow this thing it was just a weather balloon yeah i ain't buying what

00:06:08.140 they're selling and and that's the difference between trump land bannon land and navarro land

00:06:14.660 versus biden and blinken land and um what what the bigger picture here is that this kind of activity

00:06:23.780 this aggressiveness of communist china basically tells us that they're preparing for war against us

00:06:31.480 that yeah i don't think it's going to be a hot war necessarily unless it's over taiwan

00:06:35.940 it's going to be unrestricted warfare they want to put they want to like they want every picture

00:06:41.280 they can whether it's from tiktok or whether it's from a weather balloon or wherever that they can

00:06:47.280 identify our infrastructure and paralyze it using whatever tools uh they can so that that for me

00:06:54.700 is is the broader perspective on this incident it shouldn't go away but but everybody's going to

00:07:01.380 try to sweep this on the rug and they'll call uh steve bannon and peter navarro the only two guys

00:07:07.340 who were sanctioned four minutes in um to the biden regime by the chinese communist party and

00:07:15.140 are being held in contempt of congress only two people on the plan billions on the plan go ahead we got

00:07:20.740 two two uh entities one is the criminal element out of beijing the other is the criminal element

00:07:28.400 out of washington dc i've got the book up and if denver can just i've got unrestricted warfare which

00:07:33.360 i always keep my marked up copy is up in my library but i always keep a fresh copy here on the desk at

00:07:39.200 the war room i need you to go back as a tutorial because this is a teaching moment uh peter walk me

00:07:44.900 through the concept of unrestricted warfare as seen through the eyes of the chinese communist party in the

00:07:50.280 pla sir uh the the whole idea is be able to bring an enemy to the knees the sun tzu thing without

00:07:59.040 firing a shot and then at the other end there's like to have this hot war where it leaves the nukes

00:08:06.060 and everybody dies but in between there the unrestricted warfare is just a really wide range

00:08:12.920 of techniques to bring a country to its knees for example in moments of tension um you could shoot

00:08:19.660 satellites out of the sky right nobody dies with that particular act until all communications are

00:08:26.460 down this chaos on the ground and america is in turmoil or for example you could hijack a rail system

00:08:34.480 uh or you could with um computerized attacks you know so sub malicious hardware you could take a

00:08:45.020 computer chip that was made in the chinese factory that found its way um into an f-35 and you know

00:08:52.220 to basically stop it in midair and have it crash to the ground um you could uh spread covid 19 uh through

00:09:01.620 a population to stop donald trump from getting elected and then deny uh that it was from a lab in

00:09:08.640 wuhan i mean there's just so many things you can do it's that that concept c plus asymmetric warfare

00:09:15.260 is the heart of what the chinese are going to do and for me the asymmetric warfare is like taking

00:09:20.420 taking a million dollar missile to sink a billion dollar aircraft carrier right so this is the way

00:09:26.260 the chinese think they're coming at us relentlessly hard unrestricted warfare also includes infiltrating

00:09:34.320 our universities and stealing uh all our new technologies from silicon valley and and our

00:09:40.920 research tanks so yeah and look steve i've written all about this for for years and years and years and

00:09:49.380 years and yeah you've got you know tom the com contents of this world and everybody's running on

00:09:55.280 a tough on china thing it's like quit talking do something just freaking do something steve let's talk

00:10:03.000 about that do something you you started doing your notes in the book basically in 2002 so essentially

00:10:07.940 over 20 years you've written a trilogy about the conflict and the coming conflict with china has there

00:10:14.740 been anything since you first started that you've seen in their behavior that's been either not

00:10:21.540 captured in your book or some change of their strategy over the 20 years that you focus on this

00:10:26.640 professionally sir no i mean it's all there you just go back and read but by the way peter navarro.com

00:10:34.500 you can get you can see kind of each of the books and the summaries and stuff like that but it's been

00:10:39.840 obvious steve since they joined the world trade organization in 2001 that's that was the the the

00:10:46.460 turning point okay because prior to that they didn't have the resources to build up their military

00:10:54.400 and be that aggressive once they got into the world trade organization began systematically dismantling

00:11:00.940 the american manufacturing base exporting our factories to china and accumulating vast sums of

00:11:06.940 wealth and i'm always reminded by the fact that our trade deficit with china is about equal to their

00:11:12.040 annual military budget no coincidence there um they've just been relentlessly going about what you

00:11:19.220 know pillsbury calls his hundred-year war they're just and look i mean all the people

00:11:23.600 um sitting on the chinese side of the table now when they meet blinken and all they're the same

00:11:30.000 people that's had across from me and you and and the trump people and it's a great advantage it's

00:11:36.620 like they're the same people and it's like yeah they change administrations like diapers you know it's

00:11:41.120 like and we just go on and fool the next and some are easier to fool than others you know it's like

00:11:45.900 the biden people are compromised and foolish they're they're like they're like pieces of cake can you

00:11:51.320 imagine steve when tiger wang was given that lecture to tony blinken alaska at the first meeting

00:11:57.780 if you and i had been sitting at that table how long that would have lasted pardon my french well um

00:12:04.960 but hang on but hang on you saw that though over at uh kushner's family's office building they came

00:12:10.820 over a couple of they flew over immediately to see uh when president trump you know took the call

00:12:16.140 from the president of taiwan and they had to fly over right away and one day was i think it was

00:12:20.680 general flynn jared myself and you and then the next day was uh jared it was sabbath and it was

00:12:26.180 it was when he and they try to read you the riot act and we just sit there and go hey

00:12:31.260 sorry you know we're we're not so sure about the the about the spratly islands right they freaked out

00:12:37.660 yeah when we're not so sure we agree this one china policy and they freaked out remember yeah so

00:12:42.640 this i remember uh when we were around down in buenos aires and and trump was threatening to put the

00:12:49.320 original uh so it raised terrorists by a significant amount more and watching uh winnie the pooh there

00:12:56.780 he's uh she's been paying the the dictator of china just kissing trump's ass that was a

00:13:04.460 thank you bahorn we we got out of that meeting and and donald trump's eyebrows were like wow did you

00:13:10.280 see that um you know the sad part there was that it worked that kowtowing worked and we backed off a

00:13:16.580 little bit of the from the tariffs because of the mnuchin kudlow wing and all that stuff but you know

00:13:21.980 it's like these people they're playing for keep steven they're coming after you and me uh certainly

00:13:28.040 directly but the whole country and um yeah we're just we're just we keep getting further and further

00:13:35.100 behind i don't see any progress whatsoever yeah they try to marginalize you or me or daphne or whoever

00:13:42.740 tries to raise this stuff and um you know black christians got his kids learning chinese and i couldn't

00:13:51.240 figure that out until i realized what was going on there no you got the joke i know you got a bounce

00:13:57.580 how do people get to all your content we got about 30 seconds where they go glad to have you back on

00:14:01.880 board where the people go to get your content well this is being asked now is go to give send go

00:14:08.260 forward slash navarro give send go forward slash navarro i got a big legal bill i gotta i gotta pay in

00:14:15.120 the next couple of weeks and uh folks have been really good about uh small donations don't don't do

00:14:20.780 anything more you can afford uh but that'll that'll help a lot and of course peter navarro.com's got

00:14:26.060 all my gateways uh peter navarro honored to have you on here dr peter navarro look forward to having

00:14:33.200 you back make sure that make sure you thank thank you we're going to get you off the injury reserve

00:14:38.160 at some time dr peter navarro thank you very much honored to have you on here

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00:17:36.460 poll goes dave walsh joins us today first thing uh the weather historic uh up on um you know this

00:17:45.200 this uh even for a saturday morning it's cold everywhere in the northeast record i think

00:17:50.480 mount washington's a minus 100 with you know wind chills or wind chills over minus 100 it's

00:17:55.140 blowing hard up there what um the situation in texas has the grid held up do we have a do we have

00:18:01.540 a massive grid problem in the country that can't take these uh these weather anomalies sir

00:18:06.640 yeah we seem to continue to have signs of that central texas had up to thursday 171 000

00:18:14.760 people out of electricity this morning 123 000 people just in austin out of electricity across

00:18:21.060 the state 260 000 people nationally 400 000 now once we get into truing this up a few days from now

00:18:28.440 we'll hear it's actually been a lot more if history proves from december uh but again it's there is some

00:18:35.200 issue with the ice overhang in texas and lack of reliability of lines but i we're back to

00:18:41.320 nothing really has changed there with respect to the lack of power generation for the coldest time

00:18:47.580 periods and the warmest periods because they're 28 dependent on wind power which operates very

00:18:53.160 intermittently and not when it's below 20 degrees unless systems have been de-iced blades have been

00:18:59.200 de-iced you've got the inability for that gigantic generation resource to be useful at all in this type of

00:19:06.320 weather so that's in the mix undoubtedly austin is near the uh the wind farms west of there

00:19:13.220 dominantly is where they are and that power somewhat comes to the eastern part of the central

00:19:17.800 and eastern part of texas when it's not there it's a huge problem they are they are moving ahead to go

00:19:22.480 ahead with some kind of a capacity payment structure now aircott is considering to promote the

00:19:27.300 investment in baseload continuous duty plants they badly need

00:19:30.440 okay talk to us about that nobody's having that at least you're not in in a the you know fox news

00:19:37.620 or emerson we see nobody's talking about a solution here what is the solution so that we get off the

00:19:42.640 hook that people's lives are in jeopardy their livelihoods in jeopardy what needs to be done here

00:19:47.080 well the issue with this they keep they keep calling it the grid the grid is a problem the problem now is

00:19:53.500 across most of the country texas california minnesota the area is suffering from these brownouts

00:19:58.600 is is the power generation system itself not the grid that transmits it but the fact of so much

00:20:05.840 renewable intermittent um largely non-usable energy systems have been built displacing and the sin is

00:20:14.160 that coal plants and nuclear plants have been shut down in mass that produce constant on-demand

00:20:20.680 what's called dispatchable energy meaning again you can hit the start button you know you have

00:20:25.500 electricity that you don't have from solar and wind that operate intermittently so many of these

00:20:31.120 shutdowns have occurred that the country is now bereft with a vastly increasing number of shutdowns

00:20:37.140 so the the country needs an augmentation of more continuous duty power generating plants built

00:20:43.560 right now the one that can get built most rapidly is a combined cycle natural gas fired plant that

00:20:49.420 recycles its exhaust into a steam turbine through a heat recovery steam generator in a recycling mode to make

00:20:55.500 the most efficient use of gas which by the way is very cheap now suddenly again at two bucks 80 a

00:21:00.720 decathern so building combined cycle plants that can run all the time is a way forward in these markets

00:21:06.200 that lack not now lack unfortunately like the third world lack continuous duty power plants because

00:21:13.440 again electricity is not saved up in a storage bank it's used in microsecond it's created it's not

00:21:18.660 it's not held in reserve anywhere it's not like water it has to be used the moment it's created

00:21:24.380 so you always need more generation capacity than you have demand for electricity or you have brownouts

00:21:30.400 and blackouts

00:21:31.000 is capacity being built right now is that already underway or is it just being debated discussed

00:21:38.240 has it been financed is this actually built so they're going to put this problem in back of us in a

00:21:43.540 year or two

00:21:43.940 the capacity payment thing in texas is being discussed in public hearings now uh looks like

00:21:50.360 something's going to happen within the next six months so it's happening there but again the country

00:21:54.720 is divided into regions for federal electricity administration regions and the states have a lot

00:22:02.340 to do with this through their public service commissions forcing utilities to build more baseload

00:22:07.480 generation and in a lot of states public service commissions depending on who the governor is and how the

00:22:12.920 governor is oriented because generally the governor appoints public service commissions for example in

00:22:17.400 california vehemently opposed to building any baseload continuous duty plants because they deem them all to be

00:22:23.400 polluting whether coal gas or nuclear they don't like any of them um so you've got that issue in

00:22:29.200 california and a number of other states where governors um especially upper new england new england

00:22:35.220 the upper northeast the upper midwest where you've got a preponderance of democratic

00:22:39.140 uh governors holding back public service commissions from approving any more baseload generation and in

00:22:45.040 fact tearing down that which they have because a lot of it is coal and nuclear uh it's a horrendous

00:22:51.180 problem if you if you take the collective forecast that uh a firm like market prepares the forecast for

00:22:58.760 industry of how much solar and wind is going to be bought by 2030 if you take the forecast of that

00:23:05.140 new capacity that's going to be solar and wind it's two and a half times what we have today just in

00:23:10.580 seven to eight years we will have reserve margins down from 25 percent today to about 12 percent by

00:23:17.000 then which is a horrendous issue with brownouts and blackouts asymptotically go up not not linearly but

00:23:24.720 will triple and quadruple in number if we absorb that much more solar wind while shutting down

00:23:31.700 the amount of baseload energy sources they're forecasting will be shut down so there is some

00:23:37.780 you know the fact of this happening is horrendously on side with many many many more brownouts and

00:23:43.720 blackouts and unstable electricity supplies as we go forward

00:23:47.320 the the big energy energy companies have been reporting this week uh profitability direction a lot

00:23:55.600 of them were saying or some of them were saying hey instead of putting our cash flow back into

00:23:59.800 production development distribution marketing uh downstream uh we're going to play the financial

00:24:05.700 engineering game and just buy back stock you know buy up to 25 percent of our our equity uh you've got

00:24:11.500 this big controversy on esg you've got the public pension funds ron de santis is saying if thinking

00:24:16.640 these guys don't stop esg they're going to pull the public pension money out of it and then you've got

00:24:20.960 the sec part of it walk us through in a couple of minutes where do we stand with capital markets and

00:24:25.440 these companies that have heretofore really been driving uh are the full spectrum energy dominance

00:24:31.280 sir well chevron led the league with this share buyback 75 billion plant share buyback which is

00:24:38.440 unheard of over a couple of year period um but they've been they've been punished with uh five

00:24:45.140 shareholder votes pushing management and the board to adopt even more aggressive esg compliance

00:24:51.400 measures than management and the board have wanted to but when you look at that you get like

00:24:56.360 0.62 percent of the shareholders actually get to vote in these in these activities brokers that hold

00:25:02.020 shares don't vote them so you've got very small groups like the massachusetts pension fund and calpers

00:25:08.760 state government of california controlling uh huge blocks of shares in chevron that basically forced

00:25:15.620 five five votes against management that lead them now to just slide into second base safely

00:25:21.000 instead of taking a triple by returning funds to shareholders by buying back stock instead of

00:25:27.500 investing in their core business now the rest of the industry though is uh it looks like they've

00:25:32.800 reacted to this exxon mobil have doubled down on hey we're gonna we're gonna stick with our core

00:25:37.800 investments in oil and gas gonna hold their capital spending and their production and um investment

00:25:43.780 plan in new in seeking new oil fields and investing in production uh bp ceo larry bernard looney

00:25:50.680 indicated he's gonna begin to pull back from renewable investments british petroleum have been

00:25:56.180 making because the returns are so poor so that's a very positive thing and now today we're hearing the

00:26:01.120 sec might actually begin to ease some of these rules on the on companies needing to disclose the effects of

00:26:08.260 extreme weather and uh and emissions costs inside of their financials in asg space so there's some

00:26:14.660 positive positive positive movement that shareholders are beginning to push back strongly at least

00:26:19.620 investors on on some of the esg stuff because you've got massive blackrock fidelity a couple examples

00:26:25.940 that big studies have been made of underperforming esg based funds yet blackrock has an esg aware

00:26:32.500 etf guess what the fees they charge are three times the fees on their s&p index fund fidelity has a fund

00:26:40.460 that is a sustain a actually a um women's leadership fund and that etf charges 20 to 30 times the expense

00:26:48.160 ratio of their typical license fee 500 etf so you even got investment investment firms making uh plus

00:26:54.920 plus plus plus revenues and profits on creating higher fees for these esg funds so that's uh you know the

00:27:01.400 industry the financial industry is way into this also big time okay we got about a minute uh boris johnson's

00:27:08.520 over here looking for unlimited money for ukraine in england in london they're burning coal and wood

00:27:13.740 to the fact that they're to the point that where they've got uh the atmosphere like uh victorian

00:27:19.160 england um is any improvement going to be on that we got 30 seconds dave any improvement you see

00:27:25.020 happening in in london anytime soon um not in the near term i mean they've they've dismantled uh

00:27:31.300 essentially all their coal-fired continuous duty generation they have not taken decisions yet

00:27:36.440 under liz trust they look like they're moving in this direction to free up permits drilling permits

00:27:41.060 in the north sea they need to do that they need to free up fracking and natural gas development on

00:27:46.320 land underfoot they're they're they're slow walking that with the change in government um no the the

00:27:52.660 salvation for now is mass importing of lng from the usa and our spread on making money on that our

00:27:59.300 companies here to lurian and kinder morgan has just grown hugely with our low prices here and

00:28:05.180 they're still paying 40 30 40 times what our costs are here lng from the u.s will save the uk in the

00:28:11.000 near term but the people will uh dave we're gonna put your social we're gonna put your social media up

00:28:18.140 after the break thank you very much dave walsh

00:28:20.800 here's your host stephen k bann

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00:29:52.620 today now we've had dave walshire one of things we've been tracking on everything we do on energy

00:29:57.060 is this you know you've had this esg you've had these other requirements you've had people pushing

00:30:01.280 back some of the companies just buying their stock back even kind of essentially looking like

00:30:06.100 they're getting out of the energy business at pfizer i want to make sure other people are saying

00:30:11.540 that pfizer stocks off about 40 billion dollars since mid-january just starting this year 40 billion

00:30:18.760 dollars in a combination i think of of your research in in the book and in in the research

00:30:24.640 is coming out coupled with uh james o'keefe and the great team over veritas has clearly brought this

00:30:30.740 pfizer situation up to the forefront and i'm not saying that's what's caused the sell-off

00:30:34.640 obviously there's also questions about the profitability of the vaccine what's going to

00:30:38.640 happen near term is at some point in time because you're going to start you've got more reports and

00:30:45.460 more things that are make people's heads blow up is there some point in time we have to start

00:30:50.400 turning and focusing on these big pharma companies ma'am i mean what it's an interesting

00:30:58.680 question what is to be done right because in and forgive me we have loki the puppy and uh

00:31:04.140 i guess we're introducing viewers to loki the puppy um who's adorable but you know in a capitalist

00:31:10.560 society if they're not uh engaging in a monopoly or selling dangerous or fraudulent products there's

00:31:19.680 there's very little to be done right i mean that's the conservative position um but i think that you

00:31:25.540 know the question there is the fraud and the other crimes that you know as i mention often our 250

00:31:30.620 lawyers have identified and uh you know as i mentioned to 14 attorneys general now across the

00:31:36.680 country have received um lawyer lawyer's letters asking them to investigate various crimes you know

00:31:43.680 from our team of volunteer lawyers um and as i often mention we have two teams george smith and

00:31:49.480 scott street uh in two different parts of the country who are pursuing fraud um complaints against

00:31:55.960 pfizer so uh you know in a capitalist society what can you do pfizer is basically saying it's willing

00:32:03.620 and ready and currently is a lawless um company uh so it really kind of reminds me you know i keep

00:32:11.060 saying to you we're a new territory we're in a new dimension it reminds me a lot of mussolini's

00:32:15.940 you know it reminds me of the the first iteration of 20th century fascism in which um corporatism

00:32:22.260 and the government merged you know for the first time in modernity in that way and um and also it

00:32:28.940 reminds me of you know of course nazi germany where there was um thyssen krupp and even ibm you

00:32:34.960 know working hand in hand with this totalitarian government so i'm i'm not sure looking i'm not sure

00:32:42.020 what can um be done beyond and you know more about this than i do but beyond um criminal

00:32:48.620 investigations civil investigations congressional investigations and maybe antitrust i mean you

00:32:56.480 know maybe humanity will decide and maybe this goes beyond left and right and beyond capitalism and

00:33:02.460 communism but maybe humanity will decide this this company has simply gotten to be too dangerous

00:33:08.660 to humanity and too illegal and we just have to break it up um you know or shutter it you know

00:33:16.360 somehow i mean the crimes are just so massive i mean really honestly steve let me ask you this is

00:33:21.040 really unprecedented um you know what i'm sorry once he gets settled he's fine um what can be what

00:33:28.060 can be the solution for a massive criminal enterprise like this i mean it's really also more like

00:33:32.860 mafia linked companies in kind of the depression you know people companies that were facilitating

00:33:41.240 violence on a massive scale what what is the solution um let me throw it back to you you have

00:33:47.360 but by the way you have you have often talked and people have talked about regulatory capture

00:33:51.740 right we have you know um people that work in these agencies go back to work for a big firm and

00:33:57.020 they go back to the agency in this kind of regulatory capture they kind of work together

00:34:00.200 you're you're talking about some of the different regulatory merger where there's actually like

00:34:05.020 like mussolini's italy where it's very tough to talk find out where the state ends and where the

00:34:10.580 company begins as you've done you're just from the evidence that you've seen in looking at the the

00:34:17.420 the uh the the evidence you got that was supposed to be kept for 75 years that the fda wanted to keep

00:34:22.700 for 75 years which makes no sense um well yes it does do you think we're in something like

00:34:28.640 regular like let's use that as example is this more regulatory merger do we actually have the

00:34:34.540 merger of these entities where it's very tough to see where the government ends and the company

00:34:39.120 starts i mean why would why would the fda because of the fda if if the dale bigtree and the people

00:34:45.560 over there hadn't gone to court with that great lawyer and gotten the federal judge to reverse this

00:34:50.340 we wouldn't even be talking we wouldn't know any of this this all came because a judge said you can't

00:34:54.820 keep this these records for 75 years people need to know this information and then it was not it

00:34:59.940 wasn't uh pfizer that went through these and kind of did summaries or came forward and said hey here's

00:35:06.160 what we want to show you it took it took naomi wolf it took the daily cloud it took amy kelly and

00:35:11.800 pulling together these lawyers and the volunteers that that that signed up from the war room the 3500 to

00:35:16.520 put their to put the muscle in and so is this is this something is this epitomize or manifest something

00:35:21.940 that's been very different at least in american history well that's i guess what i'm struggling

00:35:28.040 to say it is entirely different um so sorry um it's much less you know i keep saying it's not just

00:35:37.640 regulatory capture right um it's it's it's so much beyond that i mean what we've established especially

00:35:44.240 with report 54 is that you know a horrific crime you know a crime of such massive scale has been

00:35:52.160 committed so you really much more have to think about um you know companies like t-sen krupp or

00:35:58.300 companies like like um ibm who facilitated crimes right the companies that built the you know cyclone b

00:36:07.140 the companies that built the gas chambers the companies that um facilitated the the transport of

00:36:13.400 victims in railroad cars and ibm i mean there's a very famous book about um ibm and the nazis

00:36:19.120 and uh basically the whole and this is because i read that book that was why when there was all this

00:36:24.740 kind of um vaccine passport push i was very very very nervous um if it weren't for ibm with a forerunner

00:36:33.760 of the computer with punch cards really uh helping the nazis keep incredibly detailed records you know

00:36:40.680 neighborhood by neighborhood town by town of who was a communist who was a homosexual who was a jew

00:36:45.840 right and then fast forward to who's vaccinated who's unvaccinated um you know we we found out that

00:36:51.640 there are uh there's a new coding you know that the insurance industries are using in spite of

00:36:58.840 everything we've done to get rid of vaccine passports legislatively still when now you know

00:37:03.780 the cdc has rolled out a new code so that when you're unvaccinated there's they they know it you

00:37:09.400 know when you check in to get medical care um sorry he's just tearing apart a rag which is his

00:37:15.660 favorite thing to do uh you know if it weren't for for ibm facilitating that then the nazis could not

00:37:22.400 have so quickly swooped in again neighborhood by neighborhood and and and gathered everyone up you

00:37:29.060 know they had the punch cards and ibm facilitated that so what but this is much worse right this is much

00:37:35.440 more like the company if there were a company that made cyclone b which is the gas that was used to

00:37:41.520 gas um the jews if there was a company that uh coordinated with the nazis to um transport the jews

00:37:51.520 and supported the policy about transporting the jews and rolled out the spokespeople and paid them about

00:37:57.340 how important it was to transport the jews and benefited from you know and and made billions of dollars or

00:38:03.280 deutschmarks uh quarter after quarter in transporting and murdering the jews that's what we have here

00:38:08.120 um so again at these moments you know i my my kind of analytical and historical mind sort of boggles and

00:38:16.820 i just you know have to remind everyone that we're in completely historically uncharted territory but it's

00:38:23.580 much much more serious than regulatory capture i mean regulatory capture was you know what what the

00:38:30.220 jungle was written about you know it's like oh are they putting you know cornstarch in in flour are

00:38:38.500 they extending bread with sawdust you know that's bad right but this is so far beyond um anything that

00:38:46.220 we've seen in in terms of a global criminal enterprise um changing the law buying the legislators

00:38:51.440 buying the media to you know hurt disable at scale kill people um and so we have to basically go

00:38:59.760 beyond existing law and go beyond existing regulatory uh um norms you know in order to deal with what

00:39:08.360 we've got here but the first step you know the first step is accountability and the first step is

00:39:12.900 investigations and and that's why you know we right now in history we have to be very careful of you

00:39:21.420 know memory holding these atrocities you know people have to i mean that's why you know we initiated

00:39:26.720 something at daily cloud um called the accountability project we're just inviting people to send in

00:39:32.240 their stories you know tell their stories the way yad vashem invites survivors around the world and

00:39:37.540 children of survivors to um just memorialize the the stories of the victims of the holocaust so those

00:39:44.340 won't be lost to history and when we we really have all of the all of the stories all of the

00:39:52.680 accounting all of the data points and people like ed dowd are amazing igor chudov is amazing our

00:39:57.740 volunteers of course are amazing in in you know documenting just the numbers right but we also

00:40:04.100 need we need the personal stories as well we need to find out what happened to these 28 children you

00:40:09.480 know where are their graves if they're dead you know are they alive did they survive who who injected

00:40:15.360 the 34 children you know who actually it was it was 61 children who um who took notes when that

00:40:23.400 seven-year-old had a seizure right these are all these are all crimes that have to be entered into

00:40:29.940 both a a criminal and a civil ledger and and we're just at the beginning of accountability but there

00:40:37.300 also has to be an appetite for accountability um i'm sorry i don't i don't know why he's so completely

00:40:43.580 interested in making his appearance as a as an internet star and now i can say real quickly

00:40:51.460 because we want to hold you through the break uh this thing about the 900 payment what was this

00:40:56.120 the the were parents paid money to have their their children into this program yes um i'm really glad

00:41:03.580 that i can talk about this after um you and i discussed the infamous report uh 54 in which

00:41:11.820 it was established that um these 61 children were you know injured or worse uh i was contacted by

00:41:21.500 shannon joy who's a colleague and a friend in rochester who's a well-known podcaster and she

00:41:28.520 sent me a recording which is absolutely chilling and we'll post it um that she made i don't know if

00:41:33.900 she made it legally i didn't make it but you know good for her in which she basically called the

00:41:38.960 university of rochester medical center and pretended to be a mom trying to enroll her child and this was

00:41:46.160 in april of 2021 in the program that the university of rochester had begun um and it was a program to

00:41:53.280 inject children and test them and this was april of 2021 and i i don't even know if the eua existed

00:42:00.120 they were looking for children as young as six months old and they were all Naomi hang on one second i want

00:42:06.960 to wait to the punchline we're going to take a short break dr naomi wolf's going to join us on the

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00:42:53.400 okay welcome back dr naomi wolf so this is somebody that heard that you're uh being on the air heard

00:43:02.500 about 54 and contacted you and they had contacted university of rochester give me this again because

00:43:08.300 it's quite disturbing already sure so this is a colleague and acquaintance of mine shannon joy she's

00:43:14.140 a well-known podcaster out of rochester she's a conservative and um although that doesn't matter i mean

00:43:20.140 she just you know cares about children not being murdered uh and she had heard us speaking um

00:43:27.120 yesterday i believe about uh report 54 about these um 61 children who were injected um unlawfully in

00:43:35.280 december of 2020 starting in december of 2020 and she contacted me with a recording she made

00:43:41.580 a year before in april of 2021 so before the eua certainly before the eua for tiny people certainly

00:43:51.200 before the eua for babies and she was responding she was pretexting um you know in the sense uh that

00:43:58.420 my husband who's a security consultant who pretexts as part of his job but you know like people in

00:44:05.180 intelligence will pretend to be someone else well project veritas will pretend to be someone else

00:44:09.260 so she pretended to be calling the university of rochester medical center in order to enroll her

00:44:17.040 child in this program that they were advertising in which and it was in the local media in which they

00:44:23.760 were offering 900 to a thousand dollars each to parents to bring their child in to be experimented on

00:44:31.100 with covid vaccines and in other ways related to covid and so she wanted she's a reporter she wanted to

00:44:37.840 get more information so there's this recording of her calling um the person answering the phone

00:44:43.460 whose name is don and and shannon is like i've got a son can i bring him in is it true you're going to

00:44:50.520 give me 900 or a thousand dollars how much do parents get paid and don is like yeah it's 900 or a thousand

00:44:55.760 each and um shannon to her credit said my son has um mental uh i'm sorry medical problems is that

00:45:05.980 going to rule him out and don said no you know like you can go ahead and bring him in and then don

00:45:11.780 absolutely appeared to lie to shannon um and and don you know representing this program at the

00:45:18.960 university of rochester medical center said uh that if something happened to the child in the course of

00:45:24.980 the experiment on the child um all of his medical costs would be covered by the university and we know

00:45:33.140 that that you know isn't true and she also said you know then shannon said well are there any side

00:45:40.020 effects and don said it's like a flu shot and so every single thing about it was chilling but even

00:45:49.300 more chilling is that don told shannon that the program at rochester was only 150 children and that

00:45:59.240 they were just part of a much larger program at trial sites across the country where children

00:46:05.600 were being injected experimentally remember at this point there was no eua for six-month-old babies i

00:46:12.640 don't think at this point there was an eua for under under 12 year olds um certainly not under five

00:46:18.200 year olds and she said that there were about a thousand children enrolled in this program um being

00:46:25.040 injected and then um the other thing that and it's still up like i looked at the university of

00:46:30.520 rochester medical center and the offer is still up for five to nine hundred dollars each and it said

00:46:36.980 it actually says it doesn't matter how young your family member is you can bring your family member in

00:46:42.940 and the other creepy thing of course um you know we tried to enroll and the other super creepy thing is

00:46:50.460 that it only asks if you're hispanic um or not hispanic that's the only question it asks about race

00:46:56.440 and so i think that what they're that's set up to do is to um attract desperate you know immigrants um

00:47:03.940 who who are trying to feed their kids um and the other unbelievably creepy thing that came out of this

00:47:09.980 recording is that this is so sad um shannon also rightly she did such a good job as an undercover reporter

00:47:17.520 she she rightly asked well what's the makeup you know of the of the people who've been calling to

00:47:22.440 try to enroll their children in this program down to six month old babies right um for them to be

00:47:28.840 injected with this experimental uh injection and um don said with some frustration that most of the

00:47:35.140 callers had been suburban white women in other words this was april of 2021 the height of the

00:47:41.440 propaganda moms and dads were being told you know you're exposing your child your child's going to die

00:47:46.980 if you don't get a coveted shot but they're not eligible yet you know oh poor you you have to mask

00:47:51.640 them until they're eligible they can't play with their friends till they're eligible and so the women

00:47:56.340 who were most propagandized um you know who were who were most targeted uh who are most kind of

00:48:04.000 embracing of the the vaccine uh religion um were calling desperately trying to um get their tiny

00:48:12.020 children to be injected in this experimental way under a netting of lies by the university of

00:48:18.220 rochester medical center and to this day there's an offer of nine hundred dollars two thousand dollars

00:48:24.100 per child all the way down to six month old babies to inject them experimentally

00:48:28.200 oh naomi we gotta bounce but i want everybody where's the book right now i want everybody to get

00:48:34.840 a copy of this uh and share it or gift it to somebody and then where do people go to find out more of the

00:48:41.140 work you're doing in the in the more recent reports and to sign on to put their shoulder to the wheel

00:48:46.160 to push this out thank you um you can go to amazon and go uh look for the war room daily cloud pfizer

00:48:55.820 documents um research ebook uh and please do it's still in the top 30 but we have to get it back up into

00:49:03.320 the top 10 to really continue to break through um and we also just need the truth to come out you can

00:49:09.860 also download a pdf on dailycloud.io and um really you know watch the project veritas uh clips and

00:49:18.480 read this ebook side by side because they really are two sides of the same coin a a murderous genocidal

00:49:25.600 um you know what can i even call it you know corporation aiming to to hurt our kids to disable

00:49:32.740 us as as americans and as human beings we have to hold them accountable and now i mean i'll just say

00:49:38.680 and then i will let you go but now it becomes clear that we're at the tip of the iceberg of

00:49:43.460 finding out about really a network of of trafficking children's bodies um experimentally and i want to

00:49:48.900 know you know who these three american children were who are experiment experimented on and where else

00:49:54.360 this is happening naomi wolf thank you honored to have you on here man

00:49:59.660 okay we'll be up on getter all weekend there's a lot of breaking news we'll be doing live streams

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Bannon's War Room - February 04, 2023

Episode 2495： Where Are They Hiding The Data

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