Bannon's War Room - Episode 2501： Snuffing Out The Corruption Of The Fed

00:00:01.000 This is the primal scream of a dying regime.

00:00:06.000 Pray for our enemies,

00:00:08.000 because we're going medieval on these people.

00:00:11.000 You've just not got a free shot,

00:00:13.000 all these networks lying about the people.

00:00:16.000 The people have had a belly full of it.

00:00:18.000 I know you don't like hearing that.

00:00:19.000 I know you've tried to do everything in the world to stop that,

00:00:21.000 but you're not going to stop it.

00:00:22.000 It's going to happen.

00:00:23.000 And where do people like that go to share the big line?

00:00:26.000 Mega Media.

00:00:28.000 I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.

00:00:33.000 Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?

00:00:37.000 If that answer is to save my country,

00:00:40.000 this country will be saved.

00:00:43.000 War Room. Here's your host, Stephen K. Vance.

00:00:52.000 What they have to say.

00:00:53.000 Chris Matthews, you look at these polls,

00:00:56.000 I don't even pay attention to them.

00:00:58.000 As I, you know, three, three and a half percent of Americans say that Joe Biden's done something.

00:01:03.000 And ninety seven percent.

00:01:04.000 I mean, I'm exaggerating.

00:01:05.000 But the polls are so bizarre when you look at how historic.

00:01:08.000 And I even even Republicans, even who Gingrich would say this.

00:01:12.000 Joe Biden has had historic success considering a 50 50 Senate.

00:01:17.000 He's accomplished great things.

00:01:19.000 That message is not getting out there.

00:01:21.000 And I'm not just putting that all in the White House.

00:01:24.000 What do you do if you're Joe Biden to say, look at what we've done.

00:01:29.000 And now look at what we're facing the next two years with these insurrectionists that I got to work with.

00:01:35.000 Well, he's got an audience tonight and he's got to use it.

00:01:38.000 And like he's been doing it for the last three or four weeks, he's been to the bridge across from Ohio to Kentucky, the Baltimore tunnel, the gateway tunnel, the new one across the Hudson.

00:01:50.000 He's talking about places to put 20 to 30 thousand people to work.

00:01:54.000 He's talking about people, working people who don't have college degrees.

00:01:58.000 They make a big point of that.

00:01:59.000 They said this bridge will be built by people without college degrees.

00:02:02.000 They are really trying to get back to the working class. 1.00

00:02:05.000 This is a battle for union members.

00:02:06.000 It's a battle for working people that didn't go to good schools or fancy schools or anything like that. 0.92

00:02:12.000 And they're trying to win them back.

00:02:13.000 He has to win the working class chunk of the vote.

00:02:16.000 They've got to take it back.

00:02:18.000 And I think that's what he's going to do.

00:02:19.000 I mean, David Garth, you know, I don't know why Trump never listened to this.

00:02:23.000 He's a builder.

00:02:24.000 Why is he not built anything in this country?

00:02:26.000 No infrastructure program, no building.

00:02:29.000 David Garth in New York, the great media adviser.

00:02:31.000 You know him.

00:02:32.000 He said, replace the smell of decay with the smell of construction, moving dirt, putting up buildings.

00:02:39.000 The public likes that.

00:02:40.000 They know all this stuff is rotting.

00:02:42.000 All these subway systems and bridges are falling apart.

00:02:46.000 They know it has to get done.

00:02:48.000 Biden's doing it.

00:02:49.000 I think it's going to be a battle between building and bullying because that's the next election.

00:02:53.000 Probably it's probably going to be him against Trump and he's going to be a bully.

00:02:57.000 And he's got to say, I'm tougher than you because I'm building stuff and you're just bullying.

00:03:01.000 Having been a communications person, I love new words.

00:03:05.000 Get ready.

00:03:06.000 We're going to hear this one a few times tonight.

00:03:09.000 The phrase finish the job.

00:03:10.000 We understand from a White House official that President Joe Biden plans on making that phrase finish the job essential theme of his State of the Union address tonight.

00:03:19.000 Specifically, he wants to finish the job he started when he launched his 2020 campaign.

00:03:24.000 Big transformational things, stuff like elevating the middle class, restoring the soul of the nation, as he so often says, and trying to unite the country.

00:03:33.000 The last item, though, very clearly is easier said than done.

00:03:37.000 The president's address tonight will be his first delivered to a divided Congress, after all.

00:03:42.000 And elected Republicans haven't exactly been discreet about their appetite for broad political vengeance.

00:03:49.000 They're in charge of House oversight now.

00:03:51.000 Guess how that committee is spending its time tomorrow. 1.00

00:03:54.000 They're having a hearing having to do with the president's son, Hunter Biden.

00:03:58.000 And that's just the beginning for that.

00:04:01.000 We've got at least two more years of this.

00:04:03.000 And in that way, tonight's State of the Union is an on ramp to a highway that leads directly, as Ben's been discussing, to the 2024 presidential contest.

00:04:14.000 Tuesday, 7 February, in the year of our Lord, 2023.

00:04:17.000 Welcome to the afternoon and early evening edition of The War Room.

00:04:22.000 I want to thank everybody for joining us.

00:04:25.000 So we're going to do a live stream.

00:04:27.000 In fact, President Trump just came out and said he's going to do a live stream over truth.

00:04:32.000 I think play by play commentary.

00:04:34.000 That ought to be the standby for that one.

00:04:37.000 Right.

00:04:38.000 So it's going to be interesting.

00:04:39.000 I think we're going to pick that up.

00:04:41.000 The Savage Angels.

00:04:42.000 We're going to do a live stream and commentary.

00:04:45.000 We're going to figure it out.

00:04:46.000 We've got to go to the getter site nine o'clock or a few minutes before.

00:04:51.000 We will somehow incorporate President Trump's because you do not want to miss that.

00:04:58.000 So there's so much going on today.

00:05:00.000 I want to bring in Richard Stern from Heritage, the head of their kind of the analysis, analytics and the Heritage budget blueprint,

00:05:07.000 which really is a kind of a master plan of how we get to a balanced budget.

00:05:11.000 First off, Richard, you've heard that the the the left wing media is all kind of crestfallen in a fighting mood because these polls are coming out.

00:05:21.000 The CBS polls and, you know, this is not Trafalgar.

00:05:24.000 This is CBS, ABC.

00:05:25.000 They're coming out.

00:05:26.000 And today the numbers are horrific.

00:05:28.000 Right.

00:05:29.000 What do people think that Biden made their life better?

00:05:31.000 18 percent?

00:05:32.000 Yes. 50 percent.

00:05:33.000 No. Or 49 percent.

00:05:34.000 No.

00:05:35.000 And they keep touting this amazing economics job that he's done.

00:05:39.000 You're there.

00:05:40.000 You're kind of the one of the big brains over at Heritage that thinks this stuff through.

00:05:43.000 Walk us through economics.

00:05:45.000 What what actually are the accomplishments and where do you think it stands, sir?

00:05:49.000 Absolutely.

00:05:50.000 So I think the first question is, what are the 18 percent smoking to think that the economy is doing well?

00:05:54.000 Right.

00:05:55.000 But to your point, you were leading into I love in the intro to your show here.

00:05:59.000 What Biden has done, what his cronies have done is nothing but actually bully the American people, bully the people that work hard to produce real things in this country, to hire people, to give people incomes.

00:06:10.000 That's what they've done. Right.

00:06:12.000 When you hear about the size of the debt and deficit of the government, thirty one point four trillion dollars, that's two hundred and forty thousand dollars of national debt per household.

00:06:22.000 It's America's second mortgage. You didn't know it, but you've got a second mortgage in the form of the federal debt.

00:06:27.000 All of that cripples our economy.

00:06:29.000 That's why as much as people are getting jobs right now, their wages are falling behind.

00:06:34.000 It's why the price of eggs is something that American households are struggling with through and through the real thing that the left misses.

00:06:41.000 They think that all they have to do is yell at the economy, yell at CEOs and magically it'll produce economic activity.

00:06:47.000 It's not that easy. We all know that it takes a real hard work, innovation and the dreams of people that work hard to build businesses to grow the economy, to produce the goods and services that enrich our lives and allow us to spend our free time with our families.

00:07:01.000 What the left does, they tax, they regulate, they crowd out private investment money so no one can build a new factory.

00:07:08.000 No one can get a new job. That's their economic strategy. 0.91

00:07:11.000 It's of the government moving the dirt around. It's of the government building mostly useful structures and bridges to nowhere.

00:07:18.000 They don't understand that what they're doing is they're starving the American people of the capital they need to build an economy that works for everyone.

00:07:25.000 I love that construct of the second mortgage, the two hundred forty thousand per household.

00:07:31.000 If you think about that, too, it's an it's a mortgage with an exploding rate.

00:07:35.000 I mean, isn't one of the issues here that it's the law law of large numbers where it's such a number with the with the thirty one and a half trillion plus the nine and a half trillion over the Fed that now you're now you've crowded out and you're having higher interest rates to try to stop inflation.

00:07:50.000 And that that debt is going to explode.

00:07:53.000 In fact, I think Kevin McCarthy said yesterday, roughly, and you would know this, that I think it's eight or nine trillion dollars over the 10 years alone just in interest payments.

00:08:03.000 Did I hear that correctly from from McCarthy? Is that what you guys are projecting?

00:08:07.000 Yeah, absolutely. And in fact, I'll tell you one thing about that. So this is, you know, not going to shock you on this.

00:08:12.000 The way the federal government does its budgeting, it hides the ball of most of what's happening.

00:08:16.000 That's the net interest payments.

00:08:18.000 And you might ask, what's the net doing there?

00:08:20.000 That's the interest payments out on the federal debt minus interest revenue to the federal government, because the federal government pretends to be a banker across the economy.

00:08:29.000 Student loans are one of those places where the federal government has taken your money, written it out as loans to people and then collects income off of it.

00:08:36.000 The total interest payments that we pay out on debt are actually substantially higher than that.

00:08:42.000 So that net interest payment hides the ball.

00:08:44.000 And you want to hear a disturbing fact about that total interest payments are likely to exceed defense spending just next year.

00:08:52.000 And that that should shock everybody about the real size and magnitude.

00:08:55.000 Over over over a hundred.

00:08:58.000 By the way, Mercatus Mercatus, we had this analysis when you say net interest payment.

00:09:03.000 The Treasury used to kick in, I don't know, 50 billion, 100 billion because at zero negative interest rates, there was an arbitrage there with because of the pandemic and other things.

00:09:13.000 At the nine and a half trillion is because of the inverted yield curve.

00:09:17.000 Are they sitting on a trillion dollars?

00:09:19.000 Mercatus calculated, I think, a trillion dollar loss that's got to also start to be paid paid paid back in real time.

00:09:26.000 Is there's your numbers back that up?

00:09:28.000 Are you familiar with that one that it's not going to be the net is now going to be even worse because you don't have the you don't have the positive 50 billion a year kick in.

00:09:35.000 You're going to actually have to start paying off some that the inverted yield curve problem over at the Fed.

00:09:41.000 You're going to love this one.

00:09:42.000 And I love that you brought the Fed.

00:09:44.000 The Fed is really it's the quiet facilitator of all this.

00:09:47.000 First and foremost, everybody watching this, you might want to think of the Federal Reserve as kind of some wonky thing off on the side.

00:09:53.000 It's not.

00:09:54.000 It is the main facilitating engine of the last 14 years of more than doubling the federal deficit and creating this kind of burden that the government has done that has slowed our economy during the time period.

00:10:05.000 The Trump administration was a small, bright light that dealt with that kind of massive burden that the Fed has put us on as well as the left.

00:10:13.000 So your specific point on this. So the way the federal budget works is that that 50 billion talking about, they actually have the gall to count that as revenues.

00:10:20.000 They didn't even have that in the net interest.

00:10:22.000 So so think of it this way. The federal government pays interest payments to the Fed, which is also part of the federal government.

00:10:29.000 And then the Fed would hand that money back to the Fed and they would include it in their total of revenues taken in from the economy.

00:10:36.000 It's a joke. But here's what's not a joke.

00:10:38.000 And you brought this up. The Fed is, to your point, now losing money on its, quote unquote, assets.

00:10:43.000 And you might ask, how did the Fed get assets?

00:10:45.000 It printed money completely devaluing your paychecks and your savings.

00:10:49.000 Use that printed money that they know there's no cap on how much they can print and how much they can devalue your savings.

00:10:55.000 They use that to buy real assets that they're now losing money on.

00:10:59.000 And so that federal interest payment to the Fed is now turning into federal subsidies to banking, real private banking institutions on those assets the Fed is losing money on.

00:11:09.000 So, I mean, this is just one of those kind of cronyisms, a hundred plus billion dollars a year of federal subsidies to banks through the Fed through this scheme that they're running.

00:11:19.000 I mean, it would be a joke if it wasn't so serious.

00:11:24.000 Richard, that's what I think.

00:11:25.000 You know, one of the things we do differently on the show is that we spend a lot of time on capital markets and the economy, international economy, and the audience loves it.

00:11:32.000 One, it helps, I think, them think through how they personally plan for their lives.

00:11:35.000 But, you know, this thing, all of this is, it's made obscure for a reason.

00:11:41.000 They don't want the basic citizen to understand, you know, the fiscal domination of the legislature in the executive branch that, you know, comes up with these appropriations.

00:11:50.000 But it's funded by a central bank that just keeps hitting and, you know, the Japanese insurance companies, the Chinese will buy so much. 0.58

00:11:57.000 And the Fed's there to take care of the rest.

00:11:59.000 It's a money machine.

00:12:01.000 That money machine has also led to the concentration of wealth as far as assets go.

00:12:07.000 We have a system that's completely out of whack and with no congressional oversight on the Federal Reserve.

00:12:13.000 They printed a trillion dollars during the, they call it the triage during the pandemic, with no oversight whatsoever.

00:12:20.000 What can we do, do you think, as a teaching moment here in this, when you have the appropriations process and the debt ceiling and everything about the Federal Reserve?

00:12:30.000 What would you recommend for Heritage?

00:12:32.000 What can we do together to make sure that the American citizens understand exactly what's going on?

00:12:37.000 So the decisions are made, are made consciously.

00:12:40.000 Yes, we understand how this works.

00:12:42.000 And this is what we're prepared to do.

00:12:43.000 What do you recommend?

00:12:45.000 First, I really appreciate that you've taken the time and energy on your show to focus on this, because it really is.

00:12:50.000 I often joke that the monetary system is the quantum mechanics of economics.

00:12:55.000 It's hard to get into.

00:12:56.000 Most people don't like talking about it, but it really is where the money's at, literally.

00:13:00.000 To your specific question, one thing that we've been looking at that I've really been doing a lot of work on is the idea of actually putting

00:13:06.000 a statutory cap on the assets of the Fed.

00:13:09.000 So you think of it like the debt limit, but it's a debt limit on what the Fed can buy.

00:13:12.000 Wow.

00:13:13.000 So you kind of recap it if you think about it.

00:13:15.000 Right now, if the government wanted to take more of your hard-earned money through taxes, you have to have a bill,

00:13:21.000 it has to pass the House, the Senate, get the President's signature, it has to go through the normal legislative process.

00:13:26.000 Now, what if the Fed wants to steal your money by printing dollars that devalue your paycheck, devalue your savings, devalue everything you own that's denominated in dollars?

00:13:36.000 Everything you own probably is denominated in dollars.

00:13:39.000 They don't have to do any of that.

00:13:40.000 They just have to, to what you just said, just hit the button and keep printing money and keep buying things.

00:13:45.000 Now, if Congress puts a cap on how many assets they can own, you can do it in a way where it still allows the Fed to do what would have been 20 years ago, normal Fed activity to make sure we had a stable, sound currency.

00:13:58.000 And what it would do is it would prevent them from buying up huge trillions of dollar increments to finance federal deficits with those new poorly printed dollars.

00:14:08.000 So if you put that cap on there, what it means is the next time they want to put in one of these Christmas wishlist bills, trillions of dollars that they're ultimately stealing from you,

00:14:16.000 they would have to have an overt vote on the floor of the House and Senate to raise that asset cap on the Fed, or they'd have to get it through more legitimate means.

00:14:25.000 But it forces them either way, however they want to finance their projects, they would actually have to have a real vote in Congress.

00:14:32.000 Yeah.

00:14:33.000 Richard, we want to hold you through the break if you don't mind.

00:14:36.000 Richard Stern from over at Heritage in charge of the Heritage Budget Blueprint.

00:14:40.000 It's the pathway to a balanced budget.

00:14:42.000 He's going to join us after a short commercial break.

00:14:44.000 We also have Chris Miller, former Secretary of Defense, will be here.

00:14:47.000 An explosive new book on the final days of the Trump first term.

00:14:53.000 And we'll have Boris Epstein.

00:14:55.000 We've got Philip Patrick later.

00:14:57.000 Really a very involved show today.

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00:16:25.000 Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.

00:16:30.000 Okay, CPAC, Carrie Lake, Boebert going to join the president. 1.00

00:16:35.000 They're going to be announcing names every day.

00:16:37.000 CPAC.org slash War Room, March 1st through 4th.

00:16:41.000 We're going to do the show live.

00:16:44.000 Maybe we even have Boris coming in co-host.

00:16:46.000 I don't know. He's got so many other duties now.

00:16:48.000 It's too busy.

00:16:49.000 I tell you what, we'll ask him live when he comes on here.

00:16:52.000 We're going to have the live audience participation like we did at Turning Point in Phoenix, like we did at CPAC in Dallas.

00:16:58.000 You're going to want to be a part of this.

00:17:00.000 We're looking forward to all of it.

00:17:01.000 Plus, we're doing a live stream tonight.

00:17:02.000 I think we're trying to pick up President Trump's play-by-play commentary or his hot takes.

00:17:07.000 That'll be worth the price of admission.

00:17:09.000 And his hot takes tonight on Joe Biden's State of the Union, on Truth Social, and somehow we're going to try to get it up on Getter and have our own, have the War Room Posse also in there.

00:17:19.000 So 9 o'clock tonight, around 9 o'clock, make sure you go to the War Room Getter page in mind.

00:17:23.000 Richard Stern over at Heritage.

00:17:25.000 I love the idea on the balance sheet of the Fed.

00:17:28.000 Going forward on the debt ceiling in this, you know, Kevin, Dr. Roberts was on here last week with this, really his brilliant thinking about cutting the defense budget.

00:17:37.000 But overall, you heard Kevin McCarthy yesterday.

00:17:40.000 Of course, Russ's vote went out right away, and Russ is kind of like, we're kind of dead-enders on this thing.

00:17:45.000 Not one penny, no, not one cent increase to that signal.

00:17:48.000 It's the prioritization of payments.

00:17:50.000 Richard, what's your concept?

00:17:52.000 What's your construct here of how we get your budget blueprint to the balanced budget with this intense negotiation that we're going to have?

00:18:02.000 What would be your recommendation now?

00:18:04.000 So I think one of the key things, and you were talking about Dr. Roberts, of course, had said this as well, is that a lot of people have this misnotion.

00:18:11.000 They think that when the government spends money, they're providing free stuff to you.

00:18:14.000 What they miss is when the government's giving you free stuff, they took it from somebody else that actually produced it.

00:18:20.000 So one thing I always say to people is there are only two people that can get money without producing real value, and it's criminals and the federal government.

00:18:27.000 A part of that is the federal government prints money, but the other is they have the ability to tax you, to regulate, do those sorts of things.

00:18:33.000 We need to make that clear to people.

00:18:35.000 Every single dollar, not just a federal debt, but a federal spending, is a dollar that's stolen from the American people, stolen from the economy.

00:18:43.000 Part of what Dr. Roberts was talking about and what our blueprint highlights is all of the ways to be efficient, to be constitutional with what the government uses.

00:18:52.000 The idea should be that the government only takes actually what it needs to fulfill core constitutional responsibilities, to safeguard our natural God-given rights, and to allow us, the American people, to build a prosperous economy.

00:19:07.000 That's what the blueprint does.

00:19:08.000 It highlights the way to get back to that, and I really think at the end of the day, it's about championing that message.

00:19:13.000 You know, a lot of times if you look at it, people that will say they're conservatives for decades will do everything the left does.

00:19:20.000 They'll spend, they'll tax, they'll regulate, they're just kind of the lesser version of it.

00:19:24.000 It doesn't provide a real option to the American public.

00:19:27.000 What we want to re-highlight, re-assert, is what it means to be conservatives, what I just said, to respect that every dollar the government takes is taken from hardworking Americans, and to get back to a real constitutional vision of the government, where we can get back to the kind of prosperous economy that turned the U.S. into the greatest country on the planet long before we had big government.

00:19:45.000 Richard, I want to get you back on, and maybe we do it in the 6 o'clock hour on the weekend.

00:19:51.000 We can take a little more time, but I want to go through your budget plan, the whole thing.

00:19:54.000 Heritage is at the tip of the spear, and Dr. Roberts, we had Michael Howell on this morning.

00:19:58.000 He's really instilled the fighting spirit back into Heritage.

00:20:02.000 So how do people get to you?

00:20:04.000 Where's social media? How do they get to you?

00:20:05.000 All your work over at Heritage?

00:20:07.000 No, thank you.

00:20:08.000 So you can find me at Rich A. Stern on Twitter, and of course, if you go Google my bio on Heritage, you'll see all the things I've written,

00:20:14.000 that I've put out there, and I want to thank you again for having me on the show and going through all this.

00:20:19.000 It's very important stuff, and remember, you can be part of the conversation as well if you're watching this.

00:20:24.000 We need as many people at the hands of the pump as we can.

00:20:28.000 By the way, I'm stealing, and I'll use it as an homage to you, but I'm stealing your monetary policy as the quantum mechanics of public finance.

00:20:38.000 It's a genius.

00:20:39.000 That's a great – they used to always say even – and you read the book Confidence, Obama didn't know the difference, but Kennedy, as smart as he was as a history student at Harvard,

00:20:48.000 they had to always tell him the difference between fiscal and monetary all the time when he was in meetings.

00:20:52.000 He'd get confused.

00:20:53.000 So people shouldn't be – don't be ashamed at first if you don't understand it.

00:20:57.000 It gets a little complicated, but we're here to make sure everybody can understand it.

00:21:00.000 So, Richard, thank you so much.

00:21:01.000 Exactly.

00:21:02.000 Thank you so much as well.

00:21:03.000 Thanks, brother.

00:21:06.000 Boris, now – and we've got a cold open for Boris, but I want to bring Boris in first.

00:21:11.000 Boris, you always spring these ones on us.

00:21:13.000 President Trump's going to do a live play-by-play commentary on Biden's State of the Union tonight.

00:21:21.000 That's like so good you can't even make it up.

00:21:23.000 Tell me about that over at True Social.

00:21:25.000 He's going to give live commentary as Biden does his State of the Union.

00:21:36.000 Doesn't that have Boris?

00:21:38.000 I thought I did.

00:21:40.000 OK, great.

00:21:41.000 This is a highly produced show.

00:21:44.000 Hello.

00:21:46.000 OK.

00:21:47.000 We're going to get – thanks for the heads up there, guys.

00:21:51.000 Here's what's happening.

00:21:52.000 In fact, we're going to have Chris Miller up next.

00:21:54.000 We are going to get Boris up here.

00:21:56.000 So, Grace Chong, Captain Bannon, Jane Zirkle, the entire team, we're going to do live commentary tonight.

00:22:03.000 And I will actually figure out how to do this so I can join live hopefully in person.

00:22:09.000 But I'll be in the chat room.

00:22:11.000 We're going to go and bring up on as many people as possible on Joe Biden's really to highlight, you know, if he says stuff that is real and true and is upfront with the American people, we have no problem.

00:22:20.000 But I think it's going to be another just session of lies and misrepresentations.

00:22:24.000 Hey, we're pretty upfront in the war room. We think he's totally illegitimate. He stole the 2020 election. The elections, you know, stolen elections have catastrophic consequences. You can see it all over the world. Here's one of the things that we just checked and I've checked some people on the Hill. I don't know this 100 percent, but let's say we're pretty close. They have not briefed. And if if great, if anybody can double check for me right now, they have not. I don't think they've briefed the gang of eight.

00:22:49.040 They certainly haven't briefed the broader intelligence committees and they haven't briefed the broader House and Senate on exactly the situation with the Chinese with the Chinese. The Chinese weapon systems, weapons platforms. Oops. You mean the airship? Yes, that one. So why are they slow walking this? Why? Why is this? Why is this something they refuse to come forward with?

00:23:15.160 They should have been prepared to call the gang of eight. Remember, the gang of eight is the leadership of the House and the Senate plus the leadership on the intelligence on the select committees on intelligence, both the House and the Senate, eight individuals, four and four.

00:23:30.380 The why have they not done that? Why? Why have they why have they failed to do this?

00:23:39.360 This is everything right now. We have to ascertain exactly what the Biden administration knew and when they knew it.

00:23:47.860 This thing is exploding all over the Chinese. Some of the Chinese trying to sit there and go, well, the PLA, this rogue element, that's nonsense. 0.69

00:23:52.960 It's she makes every that he signs off and or makes every critical decision when you're talking about the United States of America. Right.

00:24:03.120 There is in inconceivable, inconceivable that some rogue colonel or somebody in there in their surveillance group was able to let this off without his approval.

00:24:16.680 No, this came at the highest levels and anybody spinning that is just lying to you because that's not how it rolls over in the CCP.

00:24:24.020 And I consider myself an expert in the CCP. I was the one that brought in for the yes, Abby Lowell for the laptop from hell, which shows the treason and traitorous nature of your client selling out the United States for cash money from the Chinese Communist Party. 0.83

00:24:41.820 And in this you have to get to the bottom to remember, the first kickoff investigation is tomorrow on the laptop from how they're going to start with the FBI officials that are associated with Twitter that were on the payroll over there.

00:24:54.020 And they've got, I think, a former FBI agent. Maybe that's the weaponization of government.

00:24:59.620 Anyway, tomorrow is going to be quite explosive. We're going to do kind of wall to wall coverage on this. We're going to be dipping out of all of them. Do I have Boris up yet?

00:25:07.880 Boris, I see I had such a great tear for you, Boris, and I go to you and you're not there.

00:25:11.620 Tell me about tell me about President Trump. Tell me about President Trump doing this play by play tonight on Biden's State of the Union, sir.

00:25:18.800 I'm always here for the TF. I'm always here for the posse. It was the deep space trying to prevent me from talking to you.

00:25:26.680 The play by play is going to be, as they say, fire.

00:25:30.180 President Trump, as you saw in his announcement, is already in top form and ready and ready for the quote unquote State of the Union from Joe Biden tonight.

00:25:43.280 I'm not expecting a robust performance by a hopeless Biden, but as President Trump said, hey, maybe he does pull off something akin to Lincoln or Sir Winston Churchill.

00:25:55.700 But I wouldn't hold that hope.

00:25:57.360 No, tell me when you see this spin. Here's the thing they're melting down on today is that all the polls came out, not from Trafalgar, right?

00:26:08.480 They came out for the people's pundit. They came out from ABC, CBS.

00:26:12.740 And these numbers are nothing short of horrific, right?

00:26:15.080 It has has Biden made your life better. Has Biden's economy made your life better?

00:26:19.560 You know, 18, 20 percent. Yes. You've got, you know, almost 50 percent. No.

00:26:24.500 The spreads are historic. And they're sitting here all day beating, you know, beating the toxins about how well the American people aren't paying attention.

00:26:32.160 This is a messaging problem. What say you, Boris Epstein?

00:26:36.040 It's not a messaging problem and it's not a politics problem. It's not a policy problem.

00:26:40.700 This administration has been a disaster on everything. National security. Cue the Chinese balloon just in the last five days on the economy, on the border, on energy, on our military. 1.00

00:26:57.500 Look at the look at the disaster in Afghanistan. Look at the festering, festering fire literally around nuclear reactors in Ukraine.

00:27:07.560 This administration has been the worst in American history by far.

00:27:12.560 And anything else, anyone who tries to tell you different is lying to you, to your face.

00:27:20.380 Boris, can you can you hang on for a second since we didn't get you at first?

00:27:24.060 I want you to hang on just for a minute or two.

00:27:26.040 You have some other questions, financial questions and a quick Ukraine question.

00:27:31.080 We're going to take a short commercial break. Boris is going to stick with us.

00:27:34.320 We're going to talk to him about the Ukraine big developments over there.

00:27:36.660 The Italian press is reporting that the defense minister has been fired.

00:27:41.560 Of course, that's being in Ukraine itself. They're saying that did not happen.

00:27:45.400 There's a lot of controversy about the inner circle over there.

00:27:47.600 But they're saying that, in fact, did not happen.

00:27:51.460 There's also an exploding story about and we're going to have Todd Benzman on in the six o'clock around the border.

00:27:57.700 Remember, a rancher down south of Tucson took out, shot an illegal alien who'd been crossing across this property.

00:28:08.040 But I think it's been thrown out of the country seven or eight times.

00:28:10.780 And now he's been arrested for for what murder, for killing him, a million dollar bail.

00:28:15.740 We'll get to all of that in the six o'clock hour.

00:28:18.020 Boris Epstein is going to join us right here on the other side.

00:28:20.780 It's the run up to the State of the Union.

00:28:23.540 We're going to be doing it live.

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00:29:41.540 Have to get him back.

00:29:42.620 And just remember, whatever intel the Chinese gleaned during its seven-day joyride before we did decide to shoot it down was worth it getting shot down. 0.99

00:29:54.180 Because the $400,000 we spent on the Sidewinder missile, the $200 million we spent on the F-22, well, maybe that price is comparable to what the Chinese spent on their surveillance and that payload.

00:30:06.160 And whatever it was, it was worth it because they knew that we would shoot it down, even though the defense and intelligence communities apparently ignored the president for a good three to four days before acknowledging his order.

00:30:17.100 I have to point out as well, Corrine Jean-Pierre's response when she said it's up to China to figure out what kind of relationship they want.

00:30:22.880 And, Ainsley, you mentioned a few minutes ago, you said that how a general predicted we would be at war with China in 2025.

00:30:28.540 I argue we are already at war.

00:30:30.600 We have been, as they've infiltrated every component of our society, of our sovereignty, for so long.

00:30:37.080 In contrast, Corrine Jean-Pierre's statement with Secretary Pompeo's statement, when he said we have stopped pretending that Huawei, for example, is an innocent company.

00:30:44.880 We have called it what it is, a national security threat.

00:30:47.940 We've taken action accordingly.

00:30:50.260 He said we've opened our arms to Chinese citizens and they've bit us in the hands.

00:30:54.380 Christopher Wray got in on the action.

00:30:56.520 He said, as well, slammed, you know, whatever, I have his quote in here.

00:31:02.320 Oh, that the American people are more attuned than ever to the threat the Chinese Communist Party poses not only to our way of life, but to our very lives and livelihoods. 0.97

00:31:10.340 Then instead, we have a lackluster commander in chief and an apologist secretary who says it's up to the Chinese. 0.99

00:31:18.060 It's not. It needs to be up to us.

00:31:19.680 Ainsley, I come to you on the overall picture of how our enemies see us.

00:31:24.080 I think that they see us as weak.

00:31:26.980 OK, right there, the Murdoch News Network finally saying the magic words.

00:31:32.660 Yes, the CCP has been at war for us since at least probably 10 or longer years.

00:31:38.720 But you can't argue it had to be from May of 2019 when she declared a people's war against this irregular warfare, unrestricted warfare, whatever you want to call it.

00:31:50.300 In fact, can I have my book?

00:31:51.220 I have my unrestricted warfare.

00:31:52.680 Just do a plug.

00:31:53.800 We're going to have Chris Miller here in a second.

00:31:55.220 But that's always our standard here is the unrestricted warfare.

00:31:58.760 One of the many producers.

00:32:00.620 Thank you, producer.

00:32:01.540 Boris, is it odd to you, sir, that as far as we know, and we're not totally dialed in, but we're pretty close, we can't find out if the gang of eight has been briefed yet in a classified briefing.

00:32:16.580 We know there hasn't been a broader briefing on the situation right there.

00:32:20.380 Fox made a mistake.

00:32:21.160 It's not from when the president, you know, had this meeting with Millie, this telephonic thing with Millie in Austin in the middle of the night in Manila, and then they waited.

00:32:30.400 This is about January 28th, 29th, 30th, 31st, and the 1st.

00:32:34.840 What happened when it first came in contact with their defense over the Lusian Islands, those four or five days when they hid it from everybody?

00:32:43.440 Boris Epstein.

00:32:43.980 What happened is that they were trying to figure out how to, again, deceive the American people while kowtowing to China.

00:32:53.120 That's clearly what happened.

00:32:54.940 Congress hasn't been briefed.

00:32:57.080 The senior staff of the new leadership, the speaker, hasn't been briefed.

00:33:02.260 It is absolutely unacceptable.

00:33:03.840 But again, this falls into this long line of pattern by Beijing Biden, by the Biden crime family, of being absolutely controlled by China.

00:33:14.440 Think about it.

00:33:15.500 We have this balloon that goes across the United States for, what, 10 days?

00:33:19.460 And unless somebody out in Montana took a picture of it, nobody would have known.

00:33:24.760 This is unconscionable.

00:33:26.300 It is absolutely despicable.

00:33:28.280 But it is the reality.

00:33:29.580 And again, it goes back to elections of consequences, catastrophic elections, stolen elections have catastrophic consequences.

00:33:37.920 Elections of consequences, stolen and rigged elections have catastrophic consequences.

00:33:42.620 That is what we're dealing with.

00:33:44.340 And it is unacceptable and has to be resolved.

00:33:46.440 Real quickly, there's going to be a big kickoff tomorrow with all these committees really standing up and getting into it.

00:33:54.520 But the big one could be at least oversight.

00:33:57.320 They're going to be the weaponization.

00:33:58.260 We now realize Matt Gaetz, a frequent guest here, is now on the weaponization committee and the left is freaking out.

00:34:06.860 But on oversight, they're going to start on the laptop from hell.

00:34:09.420 What guidance would you give our audience in watching these first couple of days of these investigations, sir?

00:34:17.020 Watch for collusion and cooperation between the highest levels of law enforcement and big tech into suppressing and working against President Trump and rigging and stealing the election, the 2020 presidential election, against President Trump.

00:34:31.900 I bet it's going to be a major part of this hearing tomorrow with oversight.

00:34:36.000 James Comer is the chair of the oversight committee.

00:34:38.260 He's hauling in Yoel Roth, James Baker, and other Twitter executives and is going to be grilling them on why President Trump and other MAGA patriots were censored

00:34:48.420 and why there was this cooperation between law enforcement, Twitter, and other big tech to do all they can to rig and steal the election from President Donald J.

00:34:59.300 Trump in terms of weaponization.

00:35:01.020 Be focused, again, on law enforcement being used to attack President Trump, to attack MAGA, to attack his supporters.

00:35:11.720 Boris, real quickly, how do people get, what are your coordinates on social media, how do they get your morning newsletter?

00:35:16.480 Steve, thank you so much.

00:35:18.960 Big night tonight.

00:35:19.820 Everybody's got to tune in to President Trump's account on True Social.

00:35:23.300 The play-by-play is going to be amazing.

00:35:25.880 Trust you, me.

00:35:26.800 Make sure you're tuning in.

00:35:27.800 My information, the website is BorisCB.com, hot on BorisCB.com, hot on Getter at BorisCB, Twitter at BorisCB, hot on True Social at Boris,

00:35:35.720 hottest on the ground, Boris on the scrubs.

00:35:37.420 Stay strong.

00:35:38.440 God bless.

00:35:39.000 And I'll talk to you tomorrow.

00:35:42.220 Thanks, Boris.

00:35:42.840 Okay, very honored to have Chris Miller, a career Green Beret Army officer, Colonel Miller, who was President Trump's last Secretary of Defense, acting Secretary of Defense.

00:35:54.060 The toughest job of all this, Chris, might have been you were Kash Patel's boss, right?

00:35:58.000 Kash was your chief of staff.

00:35:59.800 That had to be the hardest job even of being a Green Beret, right?

00:36:03.980 Hey, Steve.

00:36:04.820 Thanks for having me on.

00:36:06.080 Yeah, what a great American.

00:36:08.440 So honored to have the chance to serve with him.

00:36:10.700 Hey, I got to ask you something.

00:36:12.700 Like, I can't believe I'm on your show.

00:36:14.800 I had to write a book to get on it.

00:36:16.180 So thanks for having me.

00:36:17.020 But check my backdrop out.

00:36:18.460 Like, I'm checking you out.

00:36:20.540 And I kind of studied a student of this.

00:36:23.580 What do you think?

00:36:24.140 Is it too cluttered?

00:36:25.100 I'm like, throw it all out there, man.

00:36:28.160 No, no, it's good.

00:36:30.160 It's working.

00:36:30.820 I got knives.

00:36:31.720 I got guns.

00:36:32.480 I got everything.

00:36:34.380 Yeah, the whole thing.

00:36:36.940 You actually, I can now understand why you're Kash's boss.

00:36:39.860 Give the audience a little background.

00:36:42.080 How did you get, because it's, you have a very powerful scene in the book.

00:36:46.800 When you first become Action Secretary of Defense, you walk in to the Secretary's office

00:36:50.940 and it's got the desk of Blackjack Pershing and another desk that's William Tecumseh Sherman's.

00:36:56.720 And you're sitting there going, hey, how did a career Army officer at Green Beret get here?

00:37:01.660 Give us a little bit of your background.

00:37:03.120 Well, you know, kid from Iowa, wanted to serve parents.

00:37:07.540 My dad served in Korea.

00:37:09.460 Uncle served in World War II.

00:37:12.100 Come from a family of public service.

00:37:14.460 And decided that, you know, this Army gig was pretty good.

00:37:18.760 Ruthless meritocracy kind of appealed to me.

00:37:21.300 You just have to have a strong back and not quit.

00:37:23.400 And that kind of appealed to me.

00:37:24.500 And then eventually retired.

00:37:28.000 And, you know, I was a civil servant.

00:37:30.580 I wasn't a political appointee when we first worked together.

00:37:33.800 I was at the National Security Council.

00:37:35.900 I was on loan from the Pentagon.

00:37:37.220 I was just a nobody.

00:37:38.920 And decided I was doing counterterrorism and decided that we needed to defeat Al-Qaeda and end the war on terror.

00:37:46.460 And ran into Cash Patel.

00:37:48.860 And I thought he was absolutely crazy when I first met him because I looked at Wikipedia and I was like, oh, man, what did I get into?

00:37:56.120 And found out that he's just such a person of character.

00:37:59.280 And he bought into this vision and said, let's go do it.

00:38:02.460 And we couldn't get through the middle layer, the frozen middle of the bureaucracy.

00:38:09.300 And, of course, Cash had a relationship with the president.

00:38:11.680 He was able to just go right in and say, hey, Mr. President, you're getting slow rolled by these people.

00:38:17.380 And that was our goal.

00:38:18.700 And that's what we decided to do.

00:38:20.120 And that's what we did pretty well, if you ask me.

00:38:25.320 What is the book is titled entitled The Soldier Secretary.

00:38:28.900 What is the meaning of that?

00:38:29.920 There's a part in the book about it, but tell our audience what it means.

00:38:32.860 You know, a focus group that informally publisher loves soldier secretary.

00:38:37.680 I said, hey, my focus group said soldier secretary.

00:38:40.700 So Miller was a secretary, like old school.

00:38:44.300 What it really means is I served as a soldier for, oh, geez, you know, enlisted in 83 back in Iowa and left in 2014.

00:38:52.280 Don't do public math.

00:38:53.700 I'm not going to do that on your show, although it would be funny.

00:38:57.080 And then but the secretary of defense is what we're talking about.

00:39:01.580 And, you know, I got to tell you, Steve, I went out and I thought my role was to support the generals and the admirals and whatnot.

00:39:09.240 And I realized on a really late night Thanksgiving night in Djibouti in Africa, we were going into Somalia the next day to check things out because the president wanted us to leave, which I agreed with. 1.00

00:39:21.620 And I realized that night that I'm calling was not to serve the generals, but it was to serve the members of our armed forces, our veterans and their families.

00:39:30.040 And thank you for your service, by the way.

00:39:32.180 And it's good to be on with this fellow veteran.

00:39:34.440 So that's the purpose of the book, soldier secretary.

00:39:37.460 I didn't come up with it.

00:39:38.460 I'm a pretty humble guy.

00:39:39.980 But some people go, you know what you are?

00:39:42.200 Because I felt kind of bad after that.

00:39:43.720 They're like, you know what you are?

00:39:44.600 You're the soldier secretary.

00:39:45.540 I was like, oh, man, OK.

00:39:47.820 And I wear it as a badge of pride now.

00:39:53.300 What the guy you relieved, Esper wrote a book, which is I don't know if you had a chance to read it.

00:40:00.220 It's pretty shocking.

00:40:01.080 But he talks about after the myself and it's Steve.

00:40:04.120 That's all I did.

00:40:04.860 Like it's about like, what is it?

00:40:06.100 It's like it's this it's this big, dude.

00:40:08.620 You like you could use it as a doorstop.

00:40:10.880 It's like 600 pages.

00:40:12.060 I name check myself and he said this Chris Miller showed up.

00:40:15.480 We had no idea who he was, question mark.

00:40:17.420 And that kind of, hey, Steve, you know how it works.

00:40:19.260 Like you need to know what's going on in town.

00:40:21.540 And that's he didn't he did not cover his flank.

00:40:24.900 He did not know what was happening with his boss.

00:40:27.740 And he wasn't following his boss's guidance.

00:40:30.040 It's as simple as that.

00:40:31.060 The president decided it was time for the change.

00:40:33.600 That's he has this thing in there about the four no's that they were that they that he and Milley decided that that the Trump that Trump himself was going to take the potentially could take the country to dark and dangerous places.

00:40:47.660 And they had the four no's, no, no, no strategic retreats, no new conflicts, you know, steady Eddie, no, no, no misuse of the military, no politicization of the military.

00:41:00.100 Although if you read your book of your career on foreign battlefields, it looks like the military had been pretty political, at least at the upper levels have been politicized as it was to almost a no victory thing.

00:41:12.660 So what was Esper talking about?

00:41:14.940 Was Esper talking about anything that you saw from President Trump?

00:41:17.500 I mean, Esper, this is a very Esper's book to me is I mean, I would I think Milley's opened himself up to court martial.

00:41:24.760 But I want to hear from you.

00:41:25.660 Did he ever talk to you about this on when you when you had a change of command or relieved the watch?

00:41:30.780 No, no, Esper, Mark Esper never.

00:41:33.880 We had brief contact, but have not been in contact since.

00:41:37.340 I think you really hit the nail on the head, Steve.

00:41:39.040 You know, you know how civilian control of the military is and how sacrosanct that is to our republic.

00:41:44.920 You know, it's kind of non-negotiable, but they decided that they knew more than their commander in chief.

00:41:50.180 I want to make it clear.

00:41:51.180 I did 30 something years in uniform.

00:41:53.840 I worked for Republicans, Democrats.

00:41:55.800 It didn't make any difference.

00:41:56.900 That's what you do.

00:41:57.620 The commander in chief comes in.

00:41:58.940 That's how the system is.

00:41:59.980 You know this and you serve the guy and or woman if it ever comes to that.

00:42:05.140 And, you know, the fact that they thought they knew more, it appears that way when you read this and then you hear some of the leaks that are attributed to Millie.

00:42:13.040 I'll tell you, I want to let him have his chance to say his piece.

00:42:17.360 He really hasn't commented on a lot of these things.

00:42:19.780 So I don't want to jump to, you know, foregone conclusion.

00:42:23.140 But it's really troubling because that's the thing, man.

00:42:25.620 If you can't work for the boss, you don't have to in this business.

00:42:29.140 You can go work someplace else.

00:42:30.620 And I never saw it.

00:42:33.400 Here's the thing.

00:42:34.300 I didn't know President Trump from I mean, I, hey, you know what I did?

00:42:38.640 I actually read his book and I did my research on the guy because you want to support your boss and you want to see how they think.

00:42:46.240 And I'd heard all the kind of left wing press that he was not stable and whatnot.

00:42:50.880 I found the guy a remarkable decision maker and national security and I never had any issues.

00:42:56.720 I never was faced with anything unethical, immoral or illegal in the national security space or in any space.

00:43:03.200 To be perfectly clear, I don't want to be like given political talking points, lawyerly talking points.

00:43:08.760 But the guy was a great decision maker.

00:43:10.740 I tell that story in the book about the Baghdadi hit. 0.59

00:43:13.060 Yeah, I tell you, hang on for one second.

00:43:16.420 I'm going to take a short commercial break.

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00:45:31.420 Okay, welcome back.

00:45:33.020 We have breaking news here.

00:45:35.480 It's from the inside.

00:45:36.540 The China, it looks like the head of the Chinese military defense department refused a call from the secretary of state on the day that the airship or the spy balloon was down.

00:45:49.660 That's breaking news now that they refused a call.

00:45:52.760 Chris Miller, you were President Trump's last secretary of defense.

00:45:55.840 You were the acting secretary of defense.

00:45:57.880 There's a story in Bob Woodward's peril that has Milley in October.

00:46:05.280 This is before you took over.

00:46:06.340 I think you took over, I think the 10th of November.

00:46:08.620 That had Milley talking to the Chinese, the head of the PLA about stability and there's not going to be nuclear strikes.

00:46:19.260 We don't really know the details of what Woodward talked about.

00:46:23.020 And then he had another call in January.

00:46:24.720 Did he ever sit down when you took over and brief you or walk you through concerns that he had?

00:46:34.400 And did he ever tell you face-to-face, man-to-man that he had actually been in contact with his counterpart in the PLA and actually had these types of discussions about the use of nuclear weapons by the United States?

00:46:48.300 No, first I found out about it was when I saw that excerpt from Woodward's book.

00:46:53.800 I did authorize him to call the Chinese, his Chinese counterpart, after January 6th.

00:46:59.480 We did talk about that very briefly.

00:47:01.120 But that call in October where he talks about, you know, the characteristics were like, I'll give you a call if things go south.

00:47:09.860 And basically it sounds, if that's true, that's kind of treasonous, you know, that's why I'm trying to be the bigger man on this, Steve, and go, we really need to hear from him.

00:47:20.060 Whether he's going to do that on his own or whether he needs to be called up to the oversight committees, that's for them to decide.

00:47:26.800 But if that really happened, that's just kind of beyond the pale.

00:47:30.460 That's kind of the point of my book, you know.

00:47:31.860 I talk about accountability in there, and holy cow, we can lose wars, but nobody's held accountable for their actions.

00:47:40.480 That's not the way I was raised.

00:47:41.640 You weren't raised that way as a Navy officer, were you?

00:47:45.060 Yeah.

00:47:46.340 No.

00:47:47.360 Anything but.

00:47:48.040 And I spent a couple years after sea duty in the Pentagon with the Chief of Naval Operations.

00:47:53.760 But here's the thing.

00:47:54.720 This book, and I recommend the audience get it.

00:47:57.120 Number one, your career as an Army officer, the valor, the heroism of the guys around you, the nitty-gritty of these wars we fight.

00:48:06.180 But if you want to see America in decline, it's really looking at our beloved, not the military per se, but how it's used in kind of this flippant glib way that the Pentagon and the civilian leadership and the oligarchs in this town use it.

00:48:24.280 It's quite disturbing.

00:48:25.460 We only get limited time, but I do want to have you back.

00:48:28.140 But the – I agree with you, and I think this is the first time you said – by the way, the book's got all kind of great stuff about President Trump and these raids.

00:48:36.200 That's already been covered, and people – read it for that.

00:48:39.300 It's kind of – you're sitting on the edge of your seat as you read the book.

00:48:43.020 But it's got much deeper themes than that.

00:48:48.480 Millie.

00:48:49.280 There has to be an inquiry into this, and I am shocked it hasn't been to date.

00:48:52.940 It shouldn't be Chris Miller and Steve Bannon in the war room calling for this.

00:48:57.160 Even President Trump, what has been said that Esper and these guys said, particularly after the situation at Lafayette Square in front of St. John's Church and what they said, the agreement, the pact that they had, that all has to be investigated.

00:49:11.360 We need to do this just for the civilian control of the military and the military's understanding of its accountability.

00:49:18.940 Chris, you alluded to it in the last segment.

00:49:21.600 If people have a different viewpoint on their personal honor, they should resign and should make a fact of that resignation of why they're actually resigning and not going for it if they don't believe in things.

00:49:32.960 But to believe in things and do it in kind of behind the scenes, behind people's back is not the way – the system can't function like that.

00:49:43.440 I've said that since the first parallel book came out.

00:49:45.320 But last thing, we only got a couple minutes on – correct me if I'm wrong because this is from the book, and I'm doing this from memory because I read the PDF and not a hard copy.

00:49:54.900 You had to call a meeting together telephonically, it looks like, with DOJ, I guess FBI, different aspects.

00:50:05.200 You initiated this meeting to kind of a day or two before January 6th to make sure everybody was organized because it didn't seem like it was organized.

00:50:14.860 Did I read it correctly in the book?

00:50:17.700 Steve, thanks for bringing that up.

00:50:19.740 Yes.

00:50:20.140 And, you know, if you were a CYA person, you would have never done that because that's not the role of the Department of Defense in domestic affairs.

00:50:28.680 But it had to be done, and I did that.

00:50:31.500 And thanks for highlighting the point that, you know, wow, we were not organized.

00:50:38.360 And at the end of the day, you know, civilian law enforcement, I just – you know this.

00:50:42.860 The military should never be used domestically for domestic law enforcement unless as an absolute civil disorder is broken out all over.

00:50:52.020 And anything less than that is really troubling to me, and that's the purpose that I try to, you know, talk about in the book.

00:50:58.680 So thanks for highlighting that because it's kind of one of those nuanced things that, you know, they try to tell some good war stories and stuff like that.

00:51:04.680 But that's really the point of the book, too, is civilian control and the proper use of our armed forces.

00:51:09.920 They're great kids.

00:51:10.700 You know them well.

00:51:11.840 I mean, we were honored to lead them and command them, and they need good leadership, and I'm worried we're not getting it right now.

00:51:19.960 Chris, how do people, whether social media, where do they go to get the book?

00:51:23.880 Because people have got to read the book, and I want to have you back on it.

00:51:26.300 Because there's one bombshell after you – just correct me if I'm wrong.

00:51:30.480 I've only got a minute here.

00:51:32.500 The analysis – when you called this meeting together, the number – the only number that came out, at least in the book, from that meeting of the number of participations – people that were going to be in the capital or in the nation's capital for the rallies was 35,000.

00:51:49.900 Is that number – that number's in the book.

00:51:51.860 Is that the only number you remember being bandied about?

00:51:55.020 No, that was the number.

00:51:55.880 That was the consensus, and the cops said they could handle up to a million.

00:52:00.020 So thanks for highlighting that.

00:52:01.420 I'd love to come back because this is really important that we talk about this because armed forces did their job the right way that day.

00:52:07.820 Get the book.

00:52:09.820 You won't be able to put it down.

00:52:10.840 Real quickly, Chris.

00:52:11.580 We only got 30 seconds.

00:52:12.460 How do people get to the book, and how do they get to you, sir?

00:52:15.280 Hey, this interweb is great.

00:52:17.380 Go to Amazon.

00:52:18.300 It's right there.

00:52:19.000 Soldier Secretary.

00:52:20.600 Barnes & Noble's got it.

00:52:21.920 Walmart's got it.

00:52:23.780 Sam's Club has it.

00:52:25.020 So appreciate it.

00:52:26.380 I tried to do it in a way that was approachable to people that aren't really familiar with the military because that's what I want to do.

00:52:32.060 I want to try to bridge that gap between those that have served and those that are serving them.

00:52:36.780 The Soldier Secretary, Chris Miller, President Trump's last Secretary of Defense in his first term.

00:52:44.620 Chris, thank you very much for your service, and thank you for the interview.

00:52:48.340 Appreciate it.

00:52:48.820 Look forward to having you back.

00:52:49.660 Short break.

00:52:50.600 Thanks, Steve.

00:52:51.180 Second hour is going to roll in just a moment.

00:52:53.120 We rejoice when there's no more.

00:52:56.820 Let's take down the CCP.

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Bannon's War Room - February 08, 2023

Episode 2501： Snuffing Out The Corruption Of The Fed

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